Thread 1872100

>Servers
TERA Classic - NA (Canada), Patch 32, Mostly vanilla
https://teraclassic.com/
Guild: TouchFluffyTails (not TouchFluffyTail)
Toolbox support: Banned (but has built-in ping reduction)
>Era-appropriate Guides/Resources
https://web.archive.org/web/20161012172023/http://www.essentialmana.com/guides
https://web.archive.org/web/20151202004452/http://teratoday.com/content/tera-guide/tera-class-guide

Starscape - NA (California), Patch 100, Vanilla
https://terastarscape.com/
Guild: Clover
Toolbox support: Allowed
>Starscape Guides/Resources
https://rentry.org/StarscapeTERA
https://rentry.org/StarscapeClassGuides
https://github.com/tera-private-toolbox

Arborea - EU (France), Patch 100, Customized and contains server-exclusive content
https://www.arborea-reborn.com/
Guild: Dump
Toolbox support: Allowed

Agaia - EU (Germany), Patch 100, Customized
https://agaiaonline.com/
Guild: N/A
Toolbox support: Allowed

Previous thread: >>1857947

First for bun Elin supremacy

>>1872103
Bulit for my fox elin's knot

Post elin ass.

Alle is quitting. It's over...

>>1872141
If Alle quits I'll just go to whatever game she's playing because I like reading her massive stories even though I glaze over about five sentences in.

at what point can I start farming fed tickets? I need that permanent thigh expansion...

>>1872100 (OP)
If I ever decide to play again and ninja is released I'm going to hold your hand.

is classic still being bombarded by ddos attacks?
is it true that their gms were caught giving themselves gear? is it over?
asking cause i wanna play but i dont wanna play if it's fucked already

>>1872167
>is classic still being bombarded by ddos attacks?
They were for a good 4 weeks straight, stopped for a couple of days here, but started back up somewhat today. A lot of people were under the assumption that the DDOSer had stopped because the admin, Popo, was doing a fine enough job at driving people away from the server, more than the ddos attacks ever did.

>is it true that their gms were caught giving themselves gear?
They did, yes.

>is it over? asking cause i wanna play but i dont wanna play if it's fucked already
Depends, server will likely continue as normal but the peak of it seems on the downward trend.
The ddos attacks really did a number on good will, and while it isn't the fault of the server staff, Popo implemented some weird system to prevent the effects of lag from ddos but it introduced really bad input lag.
Between the ddos and really slow+stupid decision making on behalf of the devs, server has just been very slowly losing players.

There's still a decent enough population, so if you aren't opposed to the idea of it only lasting another 2 weeks or so and just enjoying it while the buzz is still kinda there, then you should be good. But if what you're looking for is this p server being your forever game, might have better luck elsewhere.

>>1872180
alright, thanks bro
>pic
good taste

>>1872167
If you're not set off by the mere mention of apex like half this thread consider giving other servers a try.

Agaia is complete garbage because of both talismans and gearing and super doomed. They've been bleeding players to Arborea constantly and today's patch brought back zero of them; the teralogs updates are inflated to hell by 4 paid staff members + 1 random queuing up to make the server seem alive which is absurd to me. They are now in full damage control mode and about to open up a BR server instead lmao. Noone from the thread plays there, for good reason.

I know the least about Starscape, but from what I heard it's just ported v100 retail with no changes. Noone from the thread plays there anymore, but it's been up for a couple years and should be relatively stable even if the population isn't that high.

I can recommend Arborea; it's not flawless but gearing isn't ballbustingly slow and the OC dungeons are fun. They've been teasing a new Baraka in summer clothes boss that should drop soontm (hopefully). Around 3/4 people from the thread play there, while the population at large is in the 150s at peak hours. Right now it's in a bit of a content draught but it at least has a future unlike Agaia.

There is also the EU Tera Classic server that just opened, but I haven't tried it nor have I heard anything about it either. It's from the same people as Tera-Germany and noone cared about it all this time so I don't really expect this Classic to be any different, but who knows. Popo's classic blew up after all.

>>1872144
48 for the event, but you get 10 every time you queue for a dungeon and clear.

>>1872207
I'll just muck around in classic for now. Thanks for all the info on the other servers. My second choice was starscape, but if nobody plays there then I don't want it.

How do I get federation bills? I completely forgot, and I wanna be a shorty with fat thighs.

I FOUND THE CAVE

How do I make my Tera shorter? I want to be a very short Baraka. Also I don't want to spend a cent.

>>1872259
Frankly, I'm tempted to play starscape just because it runs better for me and the cosmetics seem way more accessible.
I'll cry into my pillow never having to spent 30 hours reaching max level and gather 30 rat tails, but I'll have to bear it.

>>1872141
>>1872143
Guess it'd be best for me to be more upfront about the matter. Even if I've technically gone into it once before, as mentioned here: >>1872087.

Yes, my stay in TERA has been put on-hold for the time being. Had a nice long chat with those in TFTs and gave my farewells just a bit ago, although I didn't outright leave the Guild.
A combination of Classic's added input lag, spending a fair few months on Starscape prior to trialing Classic to get my TERA fix, and personal interest in seeing how a certain other action MMO has held up over the years, have since made me come to the realization that my heart simply isn't in it for this title at present.
TERA is a solid game in its own right, however, so I'm sure to swing by for another go at it in ~6-18 months time, knowing my habits. Although perhaps not on Classic, per-say, unless things are cleaned-up over there.

One Elin's departure does not prevent others for making their own great memories, however. There's still plenty to enjoy about this title no matter what server you're playing on, and I'll still be lurking here to see how things play out.

>>1872207
>[Starscape is] just ported v100 retail with no changes.
Not quite. There've been a few QoL changes made to the v100.2 formula, namely the removal of item degradation/destruction upon failing an Enchant, premium currency occasionally being dropped from BAMs, etc, etc.
You're mostly right though. Out of all the private servers available for TERA, Starscape is the most vanilla of the bunch, for good or ill. A fantastic time capsule to visit without a doubt, but MMOs in general seldom take well to being knowingly "finished".
As someone who had effectively never spent much time in TERA prior to stumbling across Starscape, I was content in playing what amounted to a brand-new MMO for me to get invested in. For veterans of this title, however, I do question how appealing going back to nearly plain-jane v100.2 could really be, outside of a quick lark.

>>1872334
Nice blogpost, tranny.

>>1872295
fed tickets give you apperance change things

>>1872340
How do I turn them in? Does the size decrease give me any mechanical benefit?

>>1872342
there is a guy called tikat in most mid-sized towns (not the capitals like velika)

>>1872340
Not that anon but how do I get more fed tickets? I just started...

>>1872349
running dungeons in match making
beach dailies at 48
you can farm fashion coupons from BAMs (the monsters in vanguard quests that are 0/5) and turn them into fed tickets

>>1872360
Thanks for the info. I'm a level 12 priest, so leveling and BAM hunting are both kind of ass right now. Might reroll as a dps since it seems like loads of people are quitting right now.

>>1872364
soloing isn't that great on priest/mystic unless you have mp charms
they also have really long queue times
dps have long queue times
tanks have instant queues, but also not the greatest at killing monsters (most of the time)

>>1872367
That's wild, nobody wants to tank? It's so fun though. Guess I'll reroll. The healer experience atm is cheeks.

>>1872368
Tanking is fun by itself, but sucks because of other players. You'll spend most of your dungeon time arguing with some sperglord who wants to tank without playing tank, or dying because you get no heals or support whatsoever. You'll have much easier time rolling a dps with high survivability and forgetting tanks and healers even exist.

>>1872373
I don't like most of the dps in this game except berserker, but I played the shit out of that in the original game and it's not like there's a ton of depth there.
I really enjoy lancer. Even though Wallop doesn't block like I'm accustomed to, I'll give it a shot.

>>1872388
A commendable choice. Godspeed

>>1872390
Ugh, learning that adrenaline rush isn't a party skill yet is also kinda ass. I must be used to a slightly later version of the game. Still, shield barrage into spring attack feels good man.

Some of these skyboxes legitimately just look real

>>1872423
probably just hand painted

>>1872426
It was 50 years ago, how else would they have painted it except by hand?

>>1872167
>is classic still being bombarded by ddos attacks?
it's been like once a day for the past week, far more playable than it was
>is it true that their gms were caught giving themselves gear? is it over?
it was 1 person with 1 item, but i expect this behavior from any private server honestly

>1872335
Obsessed

>>1872433
Photography and photoshop

>>1872760
How did you interpret that as a question that expected an answer?

Sex with human women (sliders defined to make them look eurasian [25% caucasian/75% korean])

Is it possible to level a healer to 65 with just red and yellow quests? These queue times are getting to me

>>1873129
yes, also battlegrounds and beach event

>>1873129
Is it really that bad? I'm glad I got my priest to 65 yesterday. All I did was dungeons and CS, while rushing through the story.

>>1873129
This shit right here is why I jumped to DPS instead. Every time I play Tera, I start out wanting to just heal people. But there's only 1 slot in any given group for healers, and everyone and their mom wants to be a cute little daddy's girl healslut, so it's always filled. I end up in these unbelievable 30 minute queues for a fucking dungeon, and when I finally claw my way to cap, every guild has some healer who already knows everyone gobbling up all the heal spots while I just sit around doing nothing all day. Healing is way oversaturated in tera. It's fun and engaging and lets you be a cute little princess whore, so there's really something for everyone. Sorry to say but you're cooked if you just want a fun pve experience but you're leveling healer by yourself.

>>1873288
>unbelievable 30 minute queues
The queues haven't been this fast since the first month after the official launch in 2013. What do you think you're playing? WoW?

>>1873302
I was thinking about my last PS experience. I didn't even bother starting as a healer in this one, just went dps right out the gate. Made a healer very briefly, remembered the bad time I had, and jumped asap when I saw people in the game's global chat begging dudes to join their leveling parties or to sync queue the first dungeons with their healer. More than anything though, it's just annoying as fuck when you meet some other healer in the wild and you basically can't hook up with them because all you're gonna be doing is stepping on each others toes all fucking day. No thank you. I'll just play sorc.

healsluts always complaining there's too many other healers, they're just attentionwhores too lazy to make parties for themselves

>>1873129
i feel you bro, just leaving island of dawn on my priest took forever because it's all back to back kill quests and your damage is ass
then you get out into the world and the side quests are kill quests too
and everyone else is killing bams and leveling a lot quicker, but for you killing a bam takes 30 fucking years and the actual combat feels like boring point and click because you're a healer

>>1873311
I leveled 3 alts in tandem, healer, tank, and dps. There's always a party looking for one of those three, but no such moment when you'd have nothing to do, regardless of the time of day.

I gave up on the tank though. When you've played a healer, it's hard to forgive these absolutely handless noobs that come up

>>1873356
Nigga, you're borderline unkillable. If killing 1 mob takes too long, pull 10. Pull 20. Pull 30. Get hurt, heal it. Get hit with bleed? Cleanse it. I'm tired of you tards. Nothing is faster than leveling a healer.

>>1873361
Doing it in tandem sounds really smart actually. I might just try that. Thanks bro.
>when you've played a healer, it's hard to forgive [...]
Yeah you're unlocking a LOT of memories for me now. On my lancer, I run out of MP quickly when I solo. And now I'm just remembering all these retarded healers who'd take the heal slot from me (thus pushing me onto a tank or dps class) and then fail to restore mana at all or fuck up using energy stars or something.

>>1873372
My favorite is when they blow all their MP doing dps and then when shit hits the fan, they just run circles or spam focus heal that's like trying to stop a wildfire with a bandaid.
Or, if they pull aggro, they fucking take off running to the ends of the earth with the monster raping their ass instead of coming to you so you could pick it off of them. Like PLEASE

>>1873383
God, yup. This shit is why I might just level a healer anyway. Everyone wants to do this shit, but for some reason barely anyone does it well enough for my (really fucking low) standards. I hate running out of MP because some retard can't just mana charge off CD.

>>1873311
If you don't have the throat goat game going then you're not fit to be a healer anymore. Don't even bother unless you got someones dick to jump on.

>>1873392
Sad but true. If you're alone, there's just no point. Gotta get a tank to collar me before I can play support in tera. Just like old days.

>>1873353
Actually you're kind of right, I keep telling everyone to lfg and look for people agressively if you want to level a healer. I got to 65 in a couple of days that way, and went from necro tomb all the way to bear farm with only a couple of parties in one day because I'd invite everyone in IMS with no shame after each run I'd IMS.

>>1873392
>>1873434
Shit drives me insane, stupid motherfuckers expect everybody to be a mindreader when they don't communicate that they're available or anything in general. Then get surprised when they're passed up for people who are proactive and organize/hit up others for runs. It's not even a healer thing in general. It's an endless trend where people bitch about cliques or not getting runs when they've never once approached for content themselves. They just stand there and expect to get randomly invited when they're afk half the day

Newfag here. Any advice on which server to join if i want to play for fun and make some friends?

>>1872334
>>1872099
don't you mean prequel?
and as far as I know it's still related to mabinogi at least in korea

>>1873353
>healers have to network with random people if they want to just hit cap
>meanwhile every other role can just chill
yeah i'm glad i'm a dps

>>1872260
Does no one else know where this is?

>>1873440
Classic (not EU Classic) is the most populated/active right now
fun level is eh, current endgame dungeons are just, ravenous gorge, channelworks, bathysmal rise, and sky cruiser, which aren't the most fun if you ask me, but you do make meaningful progress daily

>>1873440
anons are almost all on classic aside from the few on arborea
should just remove agaia and starscape from the OP desu

>2 "classic" servers one big in NA and smaller in EU now
>both have gunner and reaper enabled

was hyped for a split second

is there a quick way to just get fat thighs and minimum height on classic na or do i really have to grind up to level 40 or whatever to grind the beach event
i swear if they made a tera pserver with those height/thigh sliders in the character creation, and then didn't put the servers in some bumfuck middle of nowhere EU country, it'd be the most popular pserver of all time

i assume youre trying to make a chicken drumstick elin, in which case no there isnt a quick way

>>1873581
it's like couple shitter dungeons worth of VGs
stay winning EUchads

>>1873593
man i'd play the other ones if i weren't in na. this game feels like shit on transcontinental ping, even with the built in proxy.
almost went to starscape because of the ca servers, but they dont have their player count on the site so i just assumed it's dead as hell. tera classic na is honestly not that good. it's right before a lot of positive quality of life changes that this game is sorely missing (not having directional backstep sucks, lancer is missing so much that people took for granted so it's hard to find a tank at endgame, gunner's in that op era and the devs clearly don't know how to fix it, etc.), but at least the servers are closer so it doesn't feel as shitty as menma which was in france, or this new one that's in some other part of eu idk
>>1873583
that fucking blows, man. i hate looking like a lanky anorexic thing. i'll just cover up with armor i guess

also am i crazy or is there no ponytail hair option for elins? maybe i modded the original game and just forgot, but i could've sworn i used one back in the day.

>>1873605
Ponytail came with ninjas

>>1873605
there's quite a few NA players anyway. they seem to do alright with sp, but they do mention having to iframe earlier

>also am i crazy or is there no ponytail hair option for elins
elin ponytail was added with ninja release iirc

>>1873658
>>1873660
fuuuuuuuuuuck alright yeah, at least i wasn't crazy

>>1873593
so worth it

>>1873593
Are there people playing EU? I'm still playing NA casue I'm not lagging much.

>>1873705
NA server peak time is still EU time so a lot of them stayed

>>1873705
if you're talking about EU classic I have no clue
arborea has 130-150 peaks with a couple anons playing. agaia has no anons and no official numbers available, but probably around 150 as well

>>1873731
>>1873712
Right, Im eu and enjoying NA it's very playable. Dont really want to transfer and level again.

>>1873731
I can see arborea blowing up next if people keep leaving classic, dont they have custom bosses and everything?

>>1873766
correct. right now it's valk FA and lokmar with csh-tier mechanics as complete OC, plus a mini dreadspire with some modified boss patterns (argog/hagufna/antaroth/gvh queen/lakan/darkan/bahaar/manaya)
they're adding a baraka OC boss and glsh extreme next

>>1873731
the new eu one is peaking at 220 i believe on the third day, only sloooowly growing. But gunner got only 10% nerf so you basically can imagine how it looks at 65, too many of them

>>1873663
Many long hairs have a ponytail updo when you wear an armor with a high collar

>>1873731
agaia admin is sketchy, i wouldn't recommend touching that server

I want to level my ERP bunny elin so I can ride futa human/elf cock

>>1873752
Same. If they cut reaper and gunner, I would've considered, but why bother if it's just the same shit but with less players

I should level a zerker, are they hard to learn? Never tried them on retail

>>1873829
>>1873752
>unironically playing with 90-100 ms minimum

i couldn't i immediately switched and playing with that ping on NA is pure garbage if you can play with 20

>>1873862
It's fine if you just want to level and do a few runs endgame then quit, but since the endgame is pvp you kinda need a lot of players to keep that going.

>>1873862
I don't see any issues with the ping, that server side skill prediction is working and dodging works fine for me. So I don't see a reason to transfer now when I'm farming.

>>1873862
Plus I like the people here.

>>1873826
>a grown man posted this

>>1873885
I hope it's a grown ass man, it's kind of gross if it's a woman

>>1873913
Based. Women shouldn't be on the internet.

>>1873916
Everything went wrong when women invaded our spaces

>>1873916
>>1873913
Whining about women is a very womanly thing to do

>random BR brings down the server
why am I not even remotely surprised?

Some faggot on discord is claiming that he's crashing the server on purpose because he's mad about the gunner nerf.

>>1873936
>>1873939
Their broken English make this shit even funnier tho

>>1873941
It hilarious because PoPo is an actual retard

that was me he better buff gunner or else

>>1873943
>>1873946
>Gunner is completely busted
>Popo nerf it by 5% and it still outdamage all dps by a ton
>Retards are mad
lol
lmao even

Since I can't log in, I think I'll just fap to my elin in bed...

>>1873963
Find a friend to fap with, fapping to your own character is weird.

>>1873972
This. Fapping together is hot.

How do you guys not get bored of jerking off to the same model for 15 years

>>1873980
Hi...

>>1873983
Because I like to encourage a nonny while they encourage me... It's fun.

>>1873972
>>1873980
Niggas that's gay

>>1873926
Women are some of the most degenerate posters here

>>1873972
I've never done this whole erp thing it sounds weird so I'll just fap to myself

>>1873998
Erp is boring, fapping together is fun!

That's it, I'm gonna play Project Epoch.

>>1874002
Anon...

I'm not sure I have ever seen a bigger group of cucks than the mods/admin for classic.

>>1874023
qrd?

We're so back

>>1874052
No..

>>1874056
Not everyone wants to run GG all day every day, other content gets buffed on tuesday apperantly, FAGGOT

>>1874077
once again, qrd?

>>1874077
nta, pretty sure he was talking about the server being back up. you okay?

What happens in here?

>>1874186
Do you not know how to press print screen...nigga...

>>1874187
Anon... are you okay? That's literally screenshot of the login screen.

>>1874190
My bad cuh, those things in the background look like reflections at first glance, I apologize.

>>1874194
Don't worry — Elins were only meant to think about one thing anyway. Not about print-screens and server stuff.

>>1874199
Wash your ass

>>1874203
it needs to be stinky to keep the feds away

>>1874199
gonna fuck that elin

>server death
>didn't want to do anything anyways

>>1874209
You can't mate with bunny Elins and turn them into mothers. They're a proud race. They have dignity and self-worth.

>>1874216
Yeah, as my wives. Look at Alle. She's mine she just doesn't know it yet. Non-con marriage into trad wife mind breaking.

>>1874223
You can't just rape any Elin you want into a submissive wife, anon. This isn't an h-game.

>>1874226
Uhh, yes I can. What're you gonna do to stop me, tiny?

>>1874216
You must ask them to dance and romance them

>server up
>server down
>server up
>server down
>server up
>server down
>server up but 500+ ping

>matchmaking down
Popo, please. I already did it today. Let me play the game for a few hours already.

BR adds skip video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mxv1vAJg5E

>>1873999
fapping to elins together? extremely fun!

>>1874252
>the so-called "i want to spend 3 weeks leveling a character" players

>>1874271
it's like 1 week of you're lazy about it

breedable

>>1874280
>not elin
irrelevant

>>1874199
kid...

>>1874270
i don't want to fap to elins i want to fap with alle

>>1874284
fapping to loli porn with alle...

jobless BR detected

>>1874284
i want to fap to alle

>cows.jpg
>not elf

>>1874298
there are no elves in the guild, we have to make do with what we have.

>>1874203
he isnt dirty, thats just natural amani scaling.

>log in
>no Alle sex
>log out

Nice server faggots

c*astanics are fuckin nasty

>>1874346
its over... he shut it down...

>>1874346
>still playing classic
Lol
Lmao even

>>1874354
Well yeah it's the only populated TERA title to play since retail
You can have the best game in the world but it doesn't matter if there are only a couple hundred players

>>1874393
menma had people

>>1874396
Menma balls

>>1874393
>play the most populated private server
>still play with the same five people I've been playing with for 11 years
Okay...

Yep it was me. I crashed the server. What are you gonna do about it? You don't even get vault time tomorrow you loser~

>>1874426
guess ill have to rape some elins with all my free time not vaulting

>>1874426
*ignores you and fucks grown ass men in the butt instead*

>>1874426
It's also the bunny sluts. This is why you all get graped.

What happened that it would require this much downtime?

>>1874450
Obviously Popo is busy downsizing his already very small chastity cage.

>>1874450
admin is a moron

>>1874450
The guy running the server doesn't know wtf he's doing

>>1874455
>>1874458
qrd?

>>1873440
Slower leveling means more quality time with anons and less altitis spam. Its good if you want parasocial relationships.

>>1874511
It's all admin's fault he's hacked and can't patch every vulnerability within a day without access to source code.

>>1874527
Do hardy armor crystals reduce damage from both all monster types?
The other crystals specify 'normal','minion', and 'boss' monsters while this one just says monsters.

>>1874532
yes hardy replaced all the other ones (stalwart/anarchic/etc)

hey - just applied to the guild

>me, the anime villain, after pwning my old guild in battlegrounds
>MAYBE YOU SHOULD'VE NOTICED ME SOONER DAD

I made
a lot of elin friends today

Today I will play Tera normally, log into F-list later, get my rocks off and continue to play tera normally without any weird stuff.

is the ddos still happening, or can i log in and level my lancer some more

i remember liking tera's combat a lot when i tried it when i was younger
are there plenty of people to goon with here

I thought I'd only level crafting on one character and just have that char craft the alts' gear too, but then discovered most of the required materials aren't tradeable and cannot be put into bank, so here I sit leveling weaponcrafting from zero yet again

>>1874852
classic na's guildchat is mostly people reminiscing about nostalgia, not a lot of gooner chat. even the forbidden wall in velika is empty.
maybe eu has more gooning? i cannot say.
if you want to play on classic na though, i am starting from level 11 and dont mind going through it with others. i have my lancer at that level and my priest.

>>1874866
are you offering because you are interested in gooning or just because the thought of playing through the game by yourself is harrowing enough to extend a hand to even a wretch like myself

>>1874867
I'm not a gooner, and honestly on my lancer I could solo to dungeon level and then just queue shit and hit cap pretty easily. Just thought it'd be more enjoyable with company, is all. I definitely wouldn't solo shit on my priest though, that shit is boring/ass.

>>1874280
I've masturbated to these two sluts a few times already.

>>1874839
there's usually like 1 per day on average now, some days there will be 0 and some days it'll be 2 or 3, but it's not like a constant thing

>>1874511
The reason why the server keeps getting taken down is because TERA is a very old and very, very poorly coded game in a lot of ways; especially when it comes to security. I'm not sure how clear I can make it that the security in the game is basically non-existent and it blindly trusts a lot of shit that it shouldn't. For this reason there are a lot of exploits and ways to crash the server with something as simple as a bad packet and that's why the server keeps going down. It has nothing to do with server stability, the issue is TERA itself is a jank as fuck game and the person doing this is intimately familiar with that fact and knows at least a few of the methods to crash it. Some have been patched but this method in particular either requires the arcane knowledge to pull it off in the first place or a needle in the haystack approach where that singular packet needs to be found in a log file for a server that has a large enough population that a fuckton of packets are constantly being sent to the server at all times.

>>1874921
i only asked because earlier yesterday i was just trying to level lancer and got booted, and then the game was down for like an hour and when it came back up we couldn't queue for anything and then i had to go out and do irl shit
so i wasn't sure if it was still happening lol

>>1874943
yeah yesterday there was one in the morning and one at night, but prior it was like 2-3 days without anything happening

>>1874923
And every time server goes down, it's followed by totally organic, samefagged comments like "the admin doesn't know what he's doing, better move to Arborea!"

>>1875039
that is the sensible choice yes

>>1874877
Same, if only I could goon to them in game too

>>1875193
Just ask?

>reached 65 on archer on the new EU server
>90% of DPS i see in highwatch are gunners

nice 10% nerf retarded admins, they need another 40%

>>1875593
when are they adding brawler and ninja and valkyrie

>>1875593
How do you have the will to level on another server again.

>>1875603
20ping compared to 100, which is indeed unplayable.

>>1875626
I don't think it's unplayable, but okay.

>>1875593
It's safe to assume that anyone playing Gunner is either extremely insecure or an absolute retard.

>>1875633
NTA but for certain classes you can feel the difference every 10 ping makes. They just leveled and Archer and Archer is one of those classes.

>>1875635
>mained gunner in retail
>didn't know it was overpowered in these classic patches
>everyone things i'm a FOTMtard

>>1875751
on NA they are more nerfed than the 10% nerf on EU i believe, on EU toolbox is allowed with certain things so DPS tracker is there, gunner alone did more dmg than zerker and archer combined in a group they are that busted

wtf bros there's a streamer in the guild
we're famous
https://www.twitch.tv/pinpintail

>>1875860
>mute streamer
rip

I JUST WANT MY CS WIN PLEASE GOD

>>1875921
I won twice today and got a diamond~!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MY DIAMOND

AT LEAST THIS OTHER GUY DIDN'T GET THAT WIN HAH.

>>1875626
I have over 200 ping normally and it's fine. Can't hit anything with lasso, but who cares about that gay shit anyway

>>1875802
It's not just the fact that they deal high damage. Gunners in this patch have an extremely low skill floor and are relatively safe as fuck to play while also shitting out a ridiculous amount of damage.

>>1875927
Man, I'd really hate to try so hard against a total trash team like ours, only to miss the win in the final minute

>>1875751
I just hate gunners because they compete for plate drops. Berks dont come often and its usually a sorc, slayer and archer so I'm used to hogging all the heavy armor.

Wtf is that gunners' mile-long and half wide ultimate that can 1-shot the whole motherfucking raid at once and what satan's cock sleeve put that horse shit into the game?

>>1875936
I believe they are also invulnerable during that skill too.

>>1875933
I genuinely think the existence of Gunners has dissuaded a non-insignificant number of players from playing Lancer. There are so fucking many of them that 1-2 per dungeon is average, they roll on everything even if they already have the drop because leveling superiors are now decently valuable(at least for a newer player) and they're just annoying as hell to deal with due to Lancer's not getting appropriate aggro generation until high level and that god-fucking-damn knock up effect being so fucking cancerous to deal with for every other person in the party.

It doesn't matter what class I'm playing on. I hate seeing Gunners in the party prior to 65. They're fucking annoying to play around and they're never punished for being retarded because the class is designed to be retard friendly.

>>1875941
i quit playing on classic because of how broken gunner was

u nerf gunner me crash server

>>1875951
Gunner is still fairly balanced compared to brawler and valkyrie

>>1875955
uchianarutosasuke_06846 was our hero

>>1875941
The fact that gunner exists without being removed makes me certain that popo never played the game. That shit ruins the game, how the fuck are lancers supposed to hold aggro when gunners can break dungeons by dpsing further away than was originally designed, like during darkans bomb.

>>1875960
If either of those were in the server we'd already be doing brawler/valk only runs clearing content they have no business being in

>>1875960
Brawler is the single most baffling thing BHS did with TERA.

>>1875963
BLOODY BITCH BASTERD SAAR U LISTEN NOW

>>1875997
He is mongolian. Actual mongoloid retard

>>1875992
Though I'm thankful they did, because I couldn't have platinum'd the console version without it. You need a class that can solo high level dungeons without gear when nobody's doing them anymore

>>1875992
Makes me wonder if we'll get pre nerf brawler. I wouldn't complain if I get block frames from most core skills without growing fury.

>>1875860
>the poor tank in party with two zerkers
it's just an infuriate bot at this point

Popo's biggest crime isn't his incompetence it's calling this tera CLASSIC when it's this patch

>Queue for Cultists refuge
>Get every single piece of plate armor with upgrade bonuses
>Max out and go Necromancer tomb
>Get the yellows without upgrade bonuses
>Never even see the specials
Is it every other instance that drops them, or am I just unlucky?

>>1876060
sorry I'll rename it to TERA kinda classic but not fully classic

>>1876069
you're just unlucky
see if you can grab them from the market

>>1876036
>Makes me wonder if we'll get pre nerf brawler.
When Brawler released they were the highest DPS in the game(as a tank class with no DPS toggle at the time) and were even more retard-friendly than Gunner currently is because they had 100% uptime on auto block at a time when bosses were being designed around Lancer so there was barely any dodging being done by tanks. There's zero chance of us getting that iteration of Brawler considering Popo fucking hates the idea of them tanking in general which... I mean sure, the class ruined tanking in TERA because future content had to be designed around them which forced every other tank to be redesigned but excluding the option for them to tank sure as fuck isn't going to help with the severe lack of tanks.
>>1876060
The thing is nobody gives a fuck about any level 60 content other than MCHM. That's literally the only end-game that has stood the test of time from that era of the game whereas most content released during the 65 cap is liked. A true classic server that never progresses beyond level 60 wouldn't work because it would just be Shandra farming forever.

>>1876071
Its the 65 expansion, it should have been called arun tera

>>1876077
bad for SEO

>>1876073
Imagine if we just get apex lancer. It'll just be another brawler with less dps but the same button mashy, block frames on lots of shit gameplay.
Really though, I don't think block frames on onslaught and wallop is a deal breaker. Maybe keep it on for pve but off for pvp.

Can you actually reasonably buy anything with fashion coupons? Anything worthwhile is priced at 300+ and I get like 1-2 per drop on top of it being rare enough.

>>1876090
You can turn tikat tickets into fashion coupons and you only get like some shitty basegame armour from it. None of the real cosmetics.

>>1876095
You get most of them from the beach event, like 75 or so per day. 10 also drop on each endgame dungeon clear.

People were actually able to farm thousands of tikats on the event by doing the minigames but our blessed nigger faggot Popo thought it's not cool that people can afford things from the fomo shop so he patched it out.

>Come across someone's explanation of how party threat works in the server's 'cord
>Enmity doesn't infinitely scale, and is instead capped at a very low ceiling for some reason
>This ceiling is reached by basically everyone within a very short time of starting a fight
>When everyone's at the ceiling, hate is determined by whoever has dealt the highest percentage of damage among the party within the past [x] seconds, affected by threat multipliers
>This means any DPS with strong burst can easily steal hate from the tank nearly every time
This explains why I kept seeing people say Lancer needs their 10x crit Shield Counter change added to Classic ASAP, so they have regular access to the burst damage needed to maintain their slice of the very limited aggro pie. But there's no way this is accurate, right? If it's true, then I've never encountered an enmity system so strangely implemented in any other MMO.

OH MY GOD AT 12 % FUCKING SERVER HOLY SHIT 3 HOURS FOR DARKAN AND EVERY TIME IT GOES DOWN

>>1876129
Hard mode or normal mode. Lmao at u either way

>>1876060
>>1876071
It should be Tera After Fall

>>1876137
Every single time we start a run, the server goes down. It's really annoying, I just want to finish it for the daily and go off.

>>1876090
You get 75 fed bills per day per character lv48+ from beach event, can turn those into fashion coupons or vise versa. Fed bill store has swimsuits rn

>>1875039
I get what you're saying but if this dude is having such a hard time with his little 'passion project' and can't keep it afloat, then yes, people will probably look to play elsewhere.

>>1876105
Its a wowclone/action game hybrid so it makes sense that aggro isnt designed the same way. Every class has defensive options (i think) so you actually have to rollslop now and again as healer/dps. If tanks had 100% aggro always dps would be boring as FUCK.

>>1876105
Yeah, as a tank you're basically expected to not only lead the party, hold the opponent in place and stay alive, but also to deliver high enough dps to generate aggro, despite having probably the lowest dps in the game after priest. Makes sense, doesn't it?

>>1876151
It does make sense. Lancer pulls aggro from real people in pvp even though everybody should be attacking the healer

>>1876105
Honestly I've been crafting Eclipse potion for my Zerk, because I'm fucking tired of getting aggro and getting slap in the face everytime my Thunder Strike Crit in BRHM and SCNM

Also you better craft them because for some reason people have been selling their for 40g/u on the broker when Lancer and Warrior fucking need the help

>>1876095
5 per dungeon you queue into and 75 daily from beach event quests per character at 48+. If you really want to get something the best thing to do is make a few Reapers as soon as you get a character up to 40 and rush through their starting area, grab your ~500g in free materials then take the teleport from Kaiator to the beach and get your nearly 200 federation bills. Repeat up to seven times per day(there's a 24h deletion period for higher level characters.)

>>1876105
Yeah this is is how aggro works on this patch. You have to be constantly doing damage and shouting and the moment you're not your aggro will slip. Your aggro will also slip when a brawlser uses his 10min balder's vengeance or a zerk criits at all, it's so bad that you have to time your arush on a zerk's bloodlust or else you will never hold aggro

>>1876163
Uoooohhhh

>>1876157
I can't tag anybody but the biggest fucking baraka with my 500ms ping

>>1876105
The enmity system is actually really well designed. I have a feeling you either got some incorrect information or you're interpreting it incorrectly because you don't reach the soft cap "very shortly" into a fight. It's a good thing that tanks aren't guaranteed to have the boss glued to them 24/7. The biggest issue at the moment is actually gunner and not the burst classes like Berserker/Archer and that's largely due to the fact that they can safely deal damage at times when other classes can't(someone mentioned an example with Darkan earlier.)

I actually really enjoy fighting for the aggro.
It's not as boring as say, FFXIV, where you just need to press 1 button and keep aggro for the whole fight...

>>1876176
It doesn't help that nobody knows that you're not actually supposed to fully focus on dps as a lancer. Aggro per second is an entirely different story because it's not 1:1 to dps on lancer.

>The server will remain offline for a few hours while we investigate the crashes and Alliance Conflict abuse.

>There is currently an investigation regarding Alliance Conflict abuse underway and these crashes are relevant to the abuse.

>Sorry for the inconvenience, we'll let you know when it's back online. Thank you for your understanding!

back to wow...

>>1876187
>tfw kicked myself for not doing a day of alliance dailies for a free 10k
>this happens
Okay I guess I'm glad I didn't waste my time

My Darkan daily... it's so over...

>>1876187
Come back alle, I want to fuck you so bad right now

>>1876187
This bunny needs to be knotted by a fox.

>>1876199
Is Lico Alle?

>>1876187
Lets fap together!

I'm so sorry I will never abuse the alliance conflict again! Please let me log in I swear I won't do it again! Just let me queue RG.

When are they fixing this shit...

>>1876209
Full pic?

>>1876209
source or is this aislop

>>1876211
>>1876215
https://files.catbox.moe/2y1emh.jpeg

Needy little gooners

>>1876218
Made for Zerker chads

>>1872134
I just want to play Tera...

>>1876226
Nobody is playing Tera in here. We're all just being gay while complaining about the downtime.

Did you guys accept my guild app before servers died at least?

>>1876229
Which one was it, I hope you made sure to mention you're from the thread or vm, or something like that.

>>1876229
don't worry it doesn't matter, guild chat is mostly dead

>>1876229
What did you write in the application? Was it just 'hi' 'hello' ...

>>1876231
Not when I'm on!

>>1876230
Nah just said hey, i dont usually join 4chan guilds, i can send another one later

>>1876238
Yeah send another one later please or specify your username.

Why is there not a private channel if everybody is scattered to a ton of different guilds. Outside of the restarts being certain to constantly break them

>>1876245
Probably because the restarts would break them multiple times a day

>>1876245
Is everyone scattered? Other guilds seem full of normalfags from twitch, even guild leaders are streamers

>>1876248
I can't belieb it

>>1876249
Of 20 oldfags I know they're in 5 different guilds

>>1876245
Everyone's in TFTs, save for a few in Tired and few in Mahou Shoujo

>>1876245
>restarts
You already have the answer. Very few people would actually want to rejoin a channel multiple times per day.

>>1876256
Also redo made take it easy to erp with old elins

>>1876210
Never lol

>>1876249
There were only 2 streamer guilds, 1hp and comfy and they both died once their streamers quit. Never fall for the meme of joining a streamer guild.

>>1876269
Imagine the smell

Disappointed by the lack of perverts. I need more futas to milk between dungeons.

>>1876287
I don't erp on MMOs anymore since it sucks finding my autistic and highly specific desires

>>1876294
Tell me about your fetish, anon.

>>1876295
Sex.

>tfw a massive pervert but can't find anyone that does the writing in third person narrative kind of ERP
I don't want to know if the person behind the screen is jorkin' their peanits, I just want my character to have a good time

>>1876296
Tell us more? I'd like to erp

>>1876298
Really? Third person is pretty common.

>>1876298
I like writing in third person anon.. it's a bit weird to me to use you/I. But like you most of the time I just like teasinig people and writing a hot and cute story.

>>1876306
And yet any time I inquire with someone looking for ERP, they're writing some kind of "I tuch ur benis" JOI type of situation

>>1876310
Post some of your erp logs anon

>>1876306
When it comes to MMOs you have to waste your time getting to know somebody just to learn they considering jerking off to emotes "erp", around a solid 95% of the time. Lot more common elsewhere to the point that I don't consider it common in MMOs in comparison.

>>1876316
Who unironically thinks that or are you exaggerating?

>>1876320
I'm half shitposting and half serious. I envy your luck if you've come across otherwise

>>1876316
I don't know, that's sort of the case in certain places like Goldshire but that's specifically because you're going to an environment that is known specifically for casual ERP of all sorts.

>>1876325
I don’t know all the erp I’ve done in tera was at minimum text. How do you erp with just emotes and fapping?

>>1876335
Someone just wears a slutty outfit and then does /dance while the person jerking off gets told to jerk off. That's it.

It gets extremely bad in MMOs that have a lot of modding and highly fuckable characters. Brings in a lot of normie lobotomites with no imagination swarming like locusts for an easy nut

>>1876335
The chat in Tera is far too shitty to jerk off at let alone properly ERP in. That's why the best I do is call some people out for being perverts while telling them about tight elin cunny. The real erp happens in discord, telegram, signal etc. Idk how boomer you gotta be to even attempt to do it INSIDE the game.

>>1876345
The halcyon days when in game chat was too shitty even to me as a newbie erper and yet steam erp was even more ass and discord didn't exist

>>1876314
A couple of my main ERP characters were in-game monster races. This one was a Castanic Dagon cultist zealot that could become a naga/lamia through a ritual
snek sexo

>shills in discord claiming the server is up way more than its down
why lie

>>1876357
>writing a fucking novel
Yikes my man people just want to jerk off fuck off with that woman shit

>>1876361
t. a 5 on the apple scale

>>1876361
Well I am a woman and I just want to write a novel with someone that is sometimes erotic

>>1876367
>I am a woman
Stop playing video games, we don't accept your kind here

I just go to panda

>>1876345
>The chat in Tera is far too shitty
This is coming off more as you wanting excessively verbose ERP and nearly everyone I meet who can't get off without multiple paragraphs is an elitist who gets more aroused by their own purple prose than the scenario.

>>1876368
And yet anyone who played and lurked this general when the game was in its prime knows my name :^)

achievement unlocked: the general's bicycle

>>1876375
>multiple paragraphs is an elitist who gets more aroused by their own purple prose
Here it is, the spiritual baldness of someone who can't imagine what fun there could be in evoking sensation you can almost feel through writing

oh shit tera is still around? I remember playing it on release. Should I go Tera Classic or Starscape ?

>>1876381
Starscape, Tera Classic is garbage

>>1876375
You will never know the joy of jolly cooperation and collaboration with words

>>1876360
sometimes i like to send a 'servers up' when its not up

>>1876379
Thank for for confirming my suspicion.
>>1876384
I've done roleplays where over a thousand words are exchanged per post. It's a waste of time.

>>1876388
Nigga u bald as FUCK. I'm not going to make fun of you for liking bud light, but I will make fun of you saying anything above that is wine snobbery

>>1876388
Video games are a waste of time. Time wasted bringing you enjoyment is time well spent.

Anyone wanna blitz erp? We only get 3 seconds per message, loser gets shocked

you're gay as fuck

>>1876395
I'm more interested in character per second. If you can't do 4k characters in 15 minutes I'm blocking you

>>1876393
>fallacy
Oh my. The elitist lacks reading comprehension. Who could have possibly seen this coming from the person who spends more time huffing their own flatulence over paying attention to what's actually happening?

>>1876379
ive got nothing against transgender people but can you stop being such a tranny here

I want unlimited dungeons entries as compensation

>>1876381
Everyone is on classic right now, i might try arborea after cause they have custom content

>>1876357
I am sure you're a lot smarter than me, but that's too many words anon..

>Everyone is on classic right now
I wish...

>>1876416
>2016
Damn...

>>1876433
I'm not smarter than anyone, just more autistic

>>1876435
I'm still playing classic but this specific hairstyle and face aren't in the game sadly..

>>1876433
Cute... name??

>>1876444
I feel you. I remember when the new hairstyles came out they really became the canon hairs for some of my characters.

>>1876449
I’d rather stay anon sorry, and plus I’m pretty stupid and awkward

>>1876444
I wanted to make my cat again but I can't. I forgot how many new faces/hairstyles were added in later updates.

Servers up. Relog your launcher
>>1876229
Which are you

>>1876479
>no code for free stuff
it's over

>>1876486
People abused the first one. Don't expect that to ever happen again unless it's something serious.

does classic na have schoolgirl outfits, big dresses, and other costumes from the original game?

>>1876491
can't it just have like untradeable crap?

>>1876497
Yes they're in the files. But you can't get them in-game or buy them anywhere :^).

>>1876491
Popo is waiting to see if he can jew us with a cash shop

>>1876491
constant baffling decisions

>>1876505
bruh what the fuck
>no cute outfits
>tanking feels like shit
all this popo fellow needs to do is tweak lancer a little, and let me dress like a slutty schoolgirl and i'd play his game til the end of time

>>1876479
im just the 'hey' and about to login

>>1876469
I hope Popo adds ninja before the server dies

>>1876444
You're right, damn I forgot ninja introduced more faces. We definitely need her, nerfed of course.

It's time to accept that the attacker won and close down the server

提悲的歌歌 In the Realm of Arborea 奏出的歌 The Mongols attack ceaselessly 提悲的歌 Streams of connection endlessly severed 提悲的歌 Crash Crash 提悲的歌 Tera is Not Responding 提悲的歌歌

I can't fucking believe these jannies do this shit for free

>>1876637
These fucking faggots lmao. I can't imagine that level of self importance

>>1876637
Yes, mein fuhrer

>>1876637
>>1876642
Do you think they have a little Auschwitz on their desk?

>server is down all night again
>poopoo still wont let anyone else boot the server
lol

>>1876209
I lied. I'm still abusing it. Enjoy your dead server, nerds.

STOP NO YOU CAN'T JUST POST MPREG EMOJIS ACKKKKKKK

well
how's starscape

>>1876663
I used to complain about the gear grind there but it's kind of nothing in comparison to doing RG 100 times for full +12.

Tera Classic failed.

>>1876666
I don't think even 100 would get you full +12

>>1876674
I fucking hate the toadies in global/discord who go like "yeah well you just want to do SCHM and then get bored and afk in highwatch"

Fucking retards. I want to do SCHM a hundred times instead of RG, or whatever other dungeon that's fun

>>1876663
v100 is just nothing like v31...
if someone would just make a v71 server and roll back the apex classes it would be great, a lot of good dungeons and content and gearing was linear

>"I'm sure I'll be lucky today"
>Queue
>2 berserkers and 1 gunner
>no loot for me

Does vanguard reset daily?

>>1876743
Yeah at 5AM like the instance entry reset

>>1876357
Now that's mental illness

>>1876756
wait until you find out books exist

>>1876768
I remember when I'd also post million-word larp stories on messenger with a friend. I was literally twelve then

>>1876780
NTA but
>Many words bad
Why are some people so proud of their illiteracy or lack of attention span? This sounds more like cope, than anything.
I'd much rather have a romp with someone who clearly gives a shit about painting a scene with their writing, over some *cums inside u* drivel.

>>1876799
Wasting hours of your life on any kind of erp in an MMO sounds like something you shouldn't be proud of either.

>>1876799
*comes inside u*

>>1876800
Newsflash: You are already wasting hours of your life on playing an mmo.

>>1876823
You missed the point

>>1876800
>Wasting hours of your life in an MMO
retard. What counts as a good use of hours? Doing something you enjoy is a good use of hours.

>>1876848
Based erp enjoyer

>>1876848
I don't like erping in an mmo because there are no logs and it usually takes multiple sessions.

Are new Elins like Alle cuter than old Elins from over a decade ago?

>>1876878
depends on what sort of men you like

>>1876885
Tell me the differences

>>1876877
>there are no logs
i find this to be ideal, i don't want to be disgusted at my post nut clarity

>>1876799
>Why are some people so proud of their illiteracy or lack of attention span?
tiktok and chatgpt becoming prominent has conditioned low IQ people to get even worse by feeding them brief flashes of content and summing up long text into easy to read notes because they can no longer digest longform content properly. They can't sit through films pre-2010, and need fast paced family guy style shifts from one scene to the next. They're proud of this because tech as a whole is dumbing things down to cater to this type of person and they think they are efficient because they have all these shortcuts to think for them.
A study has been done that shows chatgpt reliant people are in cognitive decline

>>1876915
That's a long essay to justify your gay hobbies of gooning with neckbears

>>1876915
i don't know bro 2-3 sentence rp has been pretty normal for a long time, that multi-paragraph crap is a whole different hobby

Dude, lancer on NA classic sucks balls.
>run out of mana all the god damned time
>spring attack through bosses
>mild terrain differences or enemy knockups will fuck up your whole setup
>oom so much, get stuck just mashing lmb half the time
>every other dps hits like a truck, keeping aggro sucks ass
>soloing to level sucks ass because there're no relic weapons so bams take forever to die and you're oom the whole time
>dungeons suck, get gear stolen by zerks and gunners who don't even need it but can roll need anyway
>wallop doesn't autoblock, so you're just wide open through the whole animation
>adrenaline rush isn't a party buff
>all the fun shit i remember about lancer apparently came slightly later, but all the other pservers are set so late in the game that i don't like those either
i wish it were set just a little bit later. ease up on the leveling process, give some class quality of life, idk. v31, for me at least, feels like right before the combat began to feel very fluid and fun. shit just feels clunky and not in a good way.
i'd level a dps but the idea of going through the early game leveling process makes me want to kms

>>1876984
is big wallop with 2x the cd such a deal breaker? apex lancer is extremely fluid, it mostly just got extra party utility

>>1876984
It's one of the worst patches for lancer

>>1876984
If you're warping through bosses it means your latency is too high. I've been there and it ruins the lancer kit to the point that its not worth playing.

>>1877023
idk what you mean by big wallop with 2x the cd. i just miss when it could block.
>>1877065
the servers are in canada and i'm in california, so i didn't think it'd be a big deal. but it happens quite a bit.
>>1877048
yeah if i'm remembering right, i started playing lancer in the original game shortly after this patch, when they gave it QoL that made people want to actually play it more. for me, the best time for lancer was when a.rush was a party skill and it had some blocking stuff in its kit. super leap was fun too, but not necessary imo

>>1877023
Classic purists seem to think anything remotely related to post-V32 is inherent awful, despite Lancer only becoming better realized as a class because of later patches.
Baked-in guard for Onslaught/Wallop (plus Super Leap after Apex) lets you continue your offense while not falling behind on damage, and Hold the Line stacks being maintained when getting hit is quality-of-life that Lancer should've had from the start. Plus you can't just autopilot blocks, since later bosses throw defense-piercing attacks into their combos like crazy, to the point where RE management is essential to assure you always have a Backstep up when it's needed (and potentially getting ani-locked in Wallop/Super Leap when a mandatory dodge is coming up carries real risk to measure).

Lancer is just a more enjoyable class in every way in later patches, even post-Apex, at least compared to what we have to deal with in Classic.
Have to imagine a good degree of the salt over Apex in particular comes from jilted PvPers, since it did admittedly ruin that side of the game for many. PvP integrity regularly tends to fall by the wayside as power creep marches on, and it's especially noticeable in KMMOs.

>>1877104
was talking about superleap

>>1877121
Apex simply ruins the gameplay for a lot of classes, some things from it are good but overall I'd rather not have it.

>>1877164
Describe how.
This isn't even a knee-jerk defensive post. I'm genuinely curious just how drastically those classes changed over time, and why Apex is apparently so divisive among TERA veterans.

>>1877164
I can only think of one blatant stinker and that's zerk because of unleash

>>1877170
I'll give a couple examples.
Pretty much every class gets turned into a burn window class where your gameplay outside of that burn window hardly matters at all because of how weak it is compared to your burn.
Berserker gameplay gets utterly ruined by being turned into a transformation class.
Ninja is one of the worst examples where the gameplay completely changes, you're no longer a consistent flowy melee DPS but a hybrid melee/caster where literally all of your damage comes from a long cooldown nuke and half of your melee skills are quite literally made useless.
Not going to list every bad change, and some classes got better like Brawler, but I just can't have any fun playing TERA with apex.

>>1877185
>Pretty much every class gets turned into a burn window class where your gameplay outside of that burn window hardly matters at all because of how weak it is compared to your burn.
keeping your damage up outside burn is what separates mediocre players from good ones

>Berserker gameplay gets utterly ruined by being turned into a transformation class.
I'll give you that one

>half of your melee skills are quite literally made useless.
skyfall is tied for highest dmg contribution with boomerang. double cut and quick attack are used to boost your skyfalls, auto lowers cd of your other skills. circle of steel depends on how it's tuned in that particular patch but can also do very good damage too

>>1877185
nta but god i hated the zerk changes. that transformation felt like shit.

>>1877192
>keeping your damage up outside burn is what separates mediocre players from good ones
Yeah, but it's still not fun.

Looking at some funny ancient ktera videos. It's a bit funny to go through what used to be the endgame for the level 50 and 58 caps. Makes me appreciate that western tera launched with lv60 cap and content.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWvkuO2E9sw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQmIrjTzav4
Also had some funny memes like stacking a bunch of aspd slows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4FJcoKeBwg

>>1877197
>the part most similar to preapex is unfun
interesting

>>1877206
It's not hard to understand, it's now essentially just busywork while you wait for your burn to come back up making it feel like shit, it doesn't help that your burn will usually give you some kind of steroid and other effect that changes the rotation entirely, so you go from some insane high speed shit then go back to the normal rotation after.

>muh damage
It's thanks to these DPSniggers that we can't have pure tank or support classes anymore.

>>1877207
most classes' out of burn is harder to execute optimally than burn so I don't see how that's busywork. rotation changing in burn is a good thing, gives some variety to your gameplay
burns mattering means choosing whether to go offcd or slightly delaying them to sync buffs with your party depending on fight time more interesting
it's not hard to understand

>>1877221
holy trinity never stopped existing, do you even play the game?
besides clearing is only fun the first 5 times, if you aren't pushing for better personal dps why are you even playing

>>1877238
If I wanted to dps I would play a dps class

>>1877238
it's busywork because now your damage is frontloaded into that few seconds of burst and you're doing piss damage with your normal rotation like it's almost insulting how low iq the gameplay is
it's just typical korean mmo design though, fucking every korean game has done it and i'll never understand why because it's boring and unfun to only be "online" for a short amount of time and having to wait around while doing fuckall, even maplestory plays like this now

>>1877242
good thing holy trinity never stopped existing and tank/healer pulling their weight in terms of damage is almost never what prevents a party from clearing unlike something like xiv

>>1877243
again, not a single class lets you afford to "wait around while doing fuckall" out of burn including the big 3min burst ones unless you're satisfied being dead weight
you are wrong and out of touch, just like you were with ninja earlier

>>1877274
i think you just can't comprehend the idea that your classes damage being disproportionately weighted towards your burn window is shit lil bro, and ninja gameplay got worse regardless of the numbers dude that's not being out of touch it's just preferring gameplay that makes sense

okay i'm gonna log in and level my lancer some more
i'm motivated again...

>>1877284
and I'm telling you both burn and out of burn matters just as much but you refuse to listen
you have no argument other than "ummmmm I just don't like it okay you're wrong" but I wouldn't expect anything else

>>1877301
i provided you plenty of arguments but you seem set on ignoring them, you don't actually seem to care about gameplay feel or anything like that and just numbers, so have fun with that, still won't be playing any server with apex & modern powercreep, at least until they fix core issues with classes that got worse to play because of it

>>1877351
>you don't actually seem to care about gameplay feel or anything like that and just numbers
I do but since it's highly personal I didn't mention my preferences outside obvious shit like unleash. I think apex ninja feels amazing to play, but it wasn't relevant to the discussion, so I didn't bother saying anything other than pointing out you're objectively wrong about melee not mattering

>still won't be playing any server with apex & modern powercreep
and that's okay but wish people would stop throwing blanket statements purely based on old info or hearsay

Most classes got significant changes before apex, but after v31. And then a lot got changes to their regular skills post-apex too, some were to balance out apex skills and some were just further polishing.

when do i get to apply glyphs? level 20? classic na btw

>>1877448
you'll unlock them as you level

>>1877472
damn......
i just want the good sprint attack glyph

>>1876957
I didn't see more than one paragraph. Most of the posts are 3 sentences?

>>1877557
i don’t know >>1876433 this gets me off more than >>1876357 this but maybe it’s the furry erp that puts me off

>>1877574
You must be easy to please if that short toddler erp turns you on

>>1877582
thanks i guess? i don’t go on exhentai to read a literary masterpiece

>>1877605
>tfw the best story I’ve ever read was also an eroge

>>1877574
>Monstergirls are furries
By that logic so are elins

>>1877662
you’re right i can’t see myself fucking a snake girl

>make a zerker
>can't move while doing cyclone
classic is like every job i remember but with all the fun taken out

>>1877700
That's only until like level 15

>>1877777
oh thank god, alright. i thought it was like... some feature of v31, lmao
thank you bro, sincerely

>>1877779
Thunderstrike too, you get unlimited movement glyph later on

>>1877192
>>1877197
I really enjoyed Apex Priest. it increased the skill floor for it, i think. Thats just my opinion though

>>1876984
>run out of mana all the god damned time
Nigga you're supposed to pace yourself, mix skills in between normal attacks to generate MP, instead of blasting skills nonstop and running out of juice like a noob. Why are people so bad at video games?

>>1877828
NTA, the last time I played on retail was when the gunner was recently introduced. I never ran into mana problems with lancer and I only used normal attacks during boss attack gaps because it can be block cancelled at any frame. I also run into mp issues on classic and it doesn't seem normal in the slightest. Maybe you're just holding the block button too much so you have surplas mp.

>>1877828
maybe it's because i'm still kind of low leveled, so i cant get the mana reduction glyphs yet, but it's really fucking bad. basically all i do is mash my lmb stuff and rarely get to use actual skills. it feels like shit. go play it yourself; you clearly haven't.

>>1877862
I pay top dollar to use fancy infused charms and it still isn't enough. I just block cancel left clicks into all my combos these days.

>>1877828
Depends, some classes basic attacks are so bad you are NEVER supposed to use them especially if you try to maximize your dps. Spamming your skills during burst windows is also always a good idea.

is it safe now

>>1878181
if you're an elin you are never safe

>>1877613
which eroge?

what's the difference between berserker and slayer

>>1878378
Warrior = fast & light
Slayer = medium
Zerker = slow & heavy

>>1876984
It gets better at cap, like every class. That mp stat on lances, healers giving you mana, glistening crystal, etc you'll still be mana starved on adranline rush but with a competent priest at least you won't be chugging mp pots nonstop

Is this the new meta?

>>1878406
wtf is this shit

>>1878241
Sharin no Kuni. I don't care if it's because I was young and one of the first things I read but just thinking about the twists in that vn still gives me shiviers

Sometimes I wonder if strangers are only nice to me because I play tank and they want fast queue times, or if they really like me.

>>1877964
>>1877862
Use mp reduction glyphs and unironically mp crysatals while leveling lancer

>>1877845
>>1877862
I played lancer in retail and on classic and haven't had any issues with mana management, please stop crying.

>>1878498
>I don't press my buttons

Honestly, every time I see somebody from TFTs in-game and am about to call out, it turns out to be some terrible shitter and I can only pretend I don't know you. Guess gooning to little girls too much does melt a guy's brain

>>1878500
If i didn't press buttons, I couldn't hold aggro, but I don't have that problem either. How mysterious!

>>1878504
I'm sorry, lancer had mana issues in arush for almost the entire game's lifespan and had to divine infusion to barely keep it up. If you never had issues you were simply not pressing your buttons

lancer does have the most issues in classic

Hope you guys are enjoying your daily dose of downtime! Totally not a problem though so don't you dare complain about it!

>>1878503
There was very few good players from any 4chan guild

back to worlo warcar

>>1878503
I'm having trouble understanding this ESL

>>1878554
Here's a clearer translation of that ESL (English as a Second Language) message into more fluent English:

>"Honestly, every time I see someone from TFTs in-game and I'm about to say hi, it turns out they're awful at the game, and I have to pretend I don't know them. I guess spending too much time gooning to little girls really does fry your brain."

If you need further assistance please feel free to tag me with @Grok.

@Grok How do I stay motivated as a warrior?

>>1878568
Thanks for helping me understand that retard, Grok!

>>1878573
Staying motivated as a Warrior in TERA Classic can be a grind, but here’s how to keep it fun and rewarding:

>Rape your local Elin
Never underestimate the power of the local Elin — they’re literally built to support you.

-> Mystic Elin? Infinity mana more like infinite Stamina, fluffy tail, and thicc thighs keeping your Warrior slicing without downtime.
-> Priest Elin? Pocket healer with invuln bubbles and ass.
-> Elin Brawler or Lancer? Tanking even the hardest stab in the back.
-> Even DPS Elins come with tiny hitboxes and flexibility, meaning you never have to carry dead weight on your dick.

Lore fact: Elins were genetically engineered by the gods to emotionally and tactically support Warriors.

Let the lads play!

>>1878633
Tie up and force cocks into mouth

I wonder what kind of e-relationships people have been up to from eme tera's launch until now

>>1878674
Yesterday was the 13 year anniversary of when I first encountered this guy the game. I was like big bara, human male? Rare. Then I basically groomed him. We're married irl now.

>>1878791
how long you guys been married?

Do you think today we'll be blessed with popo's word of what the fuck he's doing?

>>1878880
Just imagine something unimaginably retarded, it's likely that he's working on it. Instead of RG we'll get a dungeon where you hit mobs all day who scatter at the first attack and are impossible to group.

>>1878884
I was reading this as if it was a exaggeration but this is literally what he's doing..

>>1878889
Nyo... this cannot be...

>>1878880
>paltry loot changes that don't fix losing GG
>still no cosmetics

I'm getting hit up by elins for erp but I can't get into it unless they're in devilicious. Hate it here

This is what we're missing btw but don't worry krafton license soon!
https://tera.fandom.com/wiki/Costumes/Elin_gallery

>>1878900
what's even the reason all the outfits arn't available in this server? there wasn't really anything more deflating than being a new player to tera in current year and seeing there was fuck all that I cared for in the fed bills shop and (depending on class) even less in the fashion coupons one. that also isn't even mentioning how demotivating seeing how few coupons I can even get in the early game to even get to use anything that might make my character look like anything but a clown. from what I can tell the server already isn't classic so what's the point of any of the fomo bullshit? its a private server let me have fun with things that arn't changing the gameplay anyways

>>1878935
He's holding off and rotating very few so that if (lol) he gets the krafton tera license he can legally sell them to you without being c&d

>>1878898
>no cosmetics
>shitty dungeons
>class balancing buggered
>gear progression buggered
>leveling system buggered
>server crash exploits neverending

it's better to think of it as a Beta, people would probably be more understanding of why it's shit

>>1878935
it's a passion project! he's doing what he wants to do and you can't judge him for that!
also he's trying to get licensing rights to sell you outfits, because reasons

>>1878872
>1400+ online
It was fun while it lasted...

>>1878958
I still can't fucking believe that the one private server we get to pop off, is this garbage fucking dogshit. Shit has salted the earth for the next 5 years before people go for the nostalgia bait again

>>1878959
We knew he was retarded the moment he couldn't stop the DDOS attacks. Like holy shit it's 2025 literally just let AWS manage your infrastructure and you'll be fine lol.

>>1878965
yeah bro just like spend money bro
bro

>>1878937
dudes already skirting a c&d by selling elite

https://tera.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Costume_galleries

>>1878968
More than that by poking Krafton legally. The wrong people will be the first to see his offer.

>>1878503
I wouldn't mind that, but some of them are downright malicious. I guess its part of the 'epic troll' identity they're trying to foster. I had a priest that just ran ahead of the group without communicating.
This general is useful for discussion, but the guild is a major red flag at this point. It always has been, I've been to every single "4chan" guild and they're always hostile and have subgroups within the greater group that also shit on everyone else.

>>1878997
What is this fuckin schizobabble?

>>1878997
I've been in every 4chan guild as well and it's always been chill? Not every player is gonna be social or good at the game but I never ran into anyone being malicious. There were for sure some gooner elins that gooned together and excluded some gooners from gooning in their sesh high school drama style but that all wasn't anything to do with the guild.

>>1879005
You don't end a statement with a question mark? Idiot?

>>1879008
You okay?

>>1879008
It's helpful to indicate a high rising inflection through text? You would probably know what this sounded like if you talked to people in real life.

>>1879024
Really grasping at straws tonight, aren't you.

>>1879031
That's just how I talk? Enjoy your confusion, though.

>>1878997
you pull you tank shitter spotted

>>1879041
>not being a reaper
>not pulling everything
>not going invisible
>not watching your team deal with it
And they call you malicious?

>>1878997
>I had a priest that just ran ahead of the group without communicating.
That should be the biggest red flag for a tank that indicates you're going way too slow. No idea why these knuckle dragging mouth breather tanks insist on RP walking through a dungeon--if your healer or dps are running ahead of you, you should feel embarrassed as a tank.
Put your shoes on and get to runnin, fatso.

>>1879063
>pull too many at once
>healer can't keep up
>dps just stand and stare

I only ever pull a number I can solo in case everyone else in the party happens to get simultaneous brain seizures, cos I'm tired of breaking my crystals and losing money due to mistakes of others.

>>1879063
ever thought in most cases it's a matter of level + gear? if you don't have the dungeon's armor you will crumble like paper on big pulls, especially if it's some garbage healer with no hands or dps take an age to kill the mobs

>b-but my levelled and geared gunner can pull the entire dungeon, cc and kill the mobs on its own, why should I wait!!!!!!
because your tank will feel useless and hate every second you're doing his job for him

dunno why you guys insist of making every tank's levelling experience miserable then complain there's no tanks

>>1879136
>pull slowly
>make 4 other people miserable

>1 person goes faster than the snails pace youpullyoutank guy and everyone follows
>the tank is miserable
>the tank tries to say he's in the right

>>1879149
you aren't even rewarded for going fast. you just get cucked by instance timer anyway
enjoy not having tanks

>>1879149
>pull slowly
>make 4 other people miserable

The majority don't care, are friendly, and enjoy playing the game. Only like 1 out of 10 (typically a gunner) has ants in his pants and whatever disability, and will have a meltdown if a 10-minute dungeon takes 15 minutes of his precious NEET time.

>>1879151
>enjoy not having tanks
My guild has more tanks than any other role right now anyway

>leveling dungeons
are you people for real?
the bosses do stupid mechanics which even cloth classes can facetank, there's tons of shitmobs and BAMs, some having confusing pathways and mechanics for a new person
it doesn't matter how you get through them, you just have to finish them, who cares

>>1879360
If you don't learn to do things properly in the tutorial mode and show a bad example to others, then you're just going to ruin runs in the endgame dungeons where everyone is punished when one guy is an idiot

>>1879413
learn fucking what
speedrunning trash mobs and wall-to-walling?
wow totally relevant for endgame

>>1879418
are you
purposefully
misunderstanding
or just trolling
fucking retard

>>1879431
I am mocking him but also I'm being completely serious
there is nothing levelling dungeons do to prepare you for endgame and absolutely no reason you should go through them more than 10 times

>>1879413
the difference is at endgame you will die/wipe and people will tell you "do X so you don't die" and then you stop having that problem
if you die in leveling dungeons.... nothing happens, you res, you do the dungeon 1 or 2 more times, then never do it again

I hate the levelling shills so much. They only hang around for two weeks until they cap and then fuck off. Leaving everybody else who actually plays the game with dealing with the baggage of all their friends qutiting because they were bored in the 30 hour tutorial

>>1879564
what is a leveling shill?

I hate endgame shills so much. They only hang around for two weeks until they rush all the game content and then fuck off. Leaving everybody who levels in the game with dealing with the baggage of all their friends quitting because they were bored at the no content left to do

>>1879575
Those retards who were saying that levelling is already too fast and should be extended

>>1879597
oh. in that case, i agree and hate them as well. leveling in this game sucks ass.

>>1879136
>>1879149
It's funny that this same discussion happens in ffxiv kek, some things never change

>>1879618
in xiv you have tools to deal with groups
here you don't. it's literally just gear

>>1879597
how would you fix leveling

>>1879438
>will tell you "do X so you don't die" and then you stop having that problemc
And guess is having to tell the same thing to some retarded faggot every single time you run that dungeon dumb and annoying. Especially if they should've seen it coming without asking, when something similar happened in leveling dungeons and they might have noticed that if they didn't just blast through with brain turned off.

What is it about this game in specific that attracts this arrogant "I don't need to play it"-type that actually can't play worth shit? I've never seen anything like it in other multiplayer games.

>>1879653
Make back to the past wortwhile. Add Alkahest, Feedstock, MES etc. to the shop. Spawn people who b2tp with max level of that dungeons range. Give lowbies free permanent village and travel atlas until they reach 65. Add milestones that give you a token to freely pick any cosmetic you want at 24, 60 and 65. Add new classes. Remove gold requirement on skills. Remove gold requirements on inventory expansion and give them away as level rewards. Add an option to skip msq to your current level if you decide to grind from dungeons and mobs and overleveled it. Guildies who enter dungeons from your party automatically get b2tp scaling on enter. For each max level character you gain a permanent 50% exp boost.

>>1879710
The patch 100 servers and console Tera are an answer to all of your wishes. When will you finally fuck off and join one of those instead of wanting to ruin the only decent server in the world?

>>1879653
lvl 65 scroll

>>1879715
LMAO

>>1879715
No. All patch 100 servers give out instant skips and nigger OP weapons. They are precisely what I don't want.

>>1879721
>They are precisely what I don't want.
I have no idea what you want, to be honest. You want everything made piss-easy, fast, costless and effortless, but still jog through the dull, bland mess that follows?

>>1879728
Who are you replying to? Read it again. I want higher incentives for people to queue lvling dungeons, remove old timegates and increase the rewards for sticking with it. You might be dyslexic my nigga.

>>1879721
nigger OP weapons barely make any difference bro
the dungeon's weapon is already enough to carry your whole party alone

>>1879728
>the dull, bland mess that follows
it's only dull cause the server sucks ass and follows the same philosophy of expecting you to waste your life for no progress in both levelling and endgame

>>1879732
You said,
>Spawn people who b2tp with max level of that dungeons range.
>Give lowbies free permanent village and travel atlas until they reach 65.
>Guildies who enter dungeons from your party automatically get b2tp scaling on enter.
>For each max level character you gain a permanent 50% exp boost.

in short, you want to teleport around while everything you look at dies instantly and showers you with rewards, but instant skipping is somehow over the line. How does this make any fucking sense in your head?

>>1879754
>Spawn people who b2tp with max level of that dungeons range.
Yes what's the issue here? Is nobody doing b2tp your alternative? 40 Minute queues for new people that level?

>Give lowbies free permanent village and travel atlas until they reach 65.
Yep because this only removes backtracking. You can't teleport into new areas.

>Guildies who enter dungeons from your party automatically get b2tp scaling on enter.
Oh no imagine you can enter dungeons with your friends that want to help you instead of using the Instance Matchmaking the horror!

>For each max level character you gain a permanent 50% exp boost.
Middle ground that doesn't impact your first character at all and keeps players that ask for faster ways to level engaged on the server as well as an incentive to level up alts at all.

>>1879715
Nigga fuck you I hate patch 100. I just want a not shitty v34 tera where I can do MC and fun dungeons

>>1879863
funnily enough that was omnitera but classic blowing up made the dev quit

>>1879708
Modern mmo zoomie syndrome, they can't chill and enjoy the game. Modern internet has destroyed the minds of our species and in 20 more years we'll be completely cooked

HOW DARE YOU HAVE STANDARDS YOU MUST CONSUME POPO'S SLOP AND BE HAPPY DON'T LIKE IT THEN LEAVE

>>1879772
Only thing I agree with here is xp boosts for alts, like 20% per character at 65. Everything else you want isn't a middle ground, it just straight up kills the alure of taking it slow. That's the problem, it's a slippery slope. The more QoL you want, the more zoomerpilled the game becomes. Just an avatar weapon to make the grind faster. Just instant teleports to all the towns. Just spawn into dungeons which are already piss easy at max ilvl so we can pull the whole thing and oneshot it in seconds. At some point you realize you're not leveling to level right? You're leveling to reach end game. And if that's what you want, just fucking take the 65 scroll. Believe it or not, if leveling is made right, leveling IS the content. Oldschool runescape, even the slow classic wow burn (especially on hardcore) where everything is scary and hurts. Making things easier and adding QoL only makes leveling worse but you brainlets don't realize that

>>1879966
>it just straight up kills the alure of taking it slow
gotcha, you like 1h queues for lvl dungeons

>>1879966
>20% per character at 65
you cannot be a real human being

>Believe it or not, if leveling is made right, leveling IS the content. Oldschool runescape, even the slow classic wow burn (especially on hardcore) where everything is scary and hurts.
and tera is not the right game for that because levelling is all bottom of the barrel trash "content"
tera's main appeal has always been endgame
can't believe we're seriously discussing this

>>1879996
Except there wouldn't be much difference between classic wow and tera, if tera was similarly hard and slow paced. You can die from a bad pull even in current tera as easily as you can in wow. The combat is arguably more fun than wow's tab target. All that's missing is a soulful quest experience. The open world is already beautiful. There are grand open world dungeons that no other game has ever thought of doing. I guarantee if you made bams harder and dungeons harder, made quests more interesting, and gave end game players and leveling players alike a reason to be in the open world, it'd make leveling appealing. What doesn't make it appealing is making leveling easier and adding QoL everywhere.

>>1880023
what you want is a game that isn't tera
everyone who stuck with the game for years could not give a single fuck about your vision, at most you hook in clueless newfaggots and alienate everyone else doing so
gg

>>1880033
So then go play on one of the ten v100 servers that instant boost you to level 70. There's no reason both leveling and endgame can be good at the same time. If you're going to add avatar weapons and instant tp that might as well be a level boost.

>>1880047
the reason is that to make levelling good you'd have to overhaul every single thing about it
it's a massive amount of work, and for what? what can it offer that endgame dungeons that already exist don't do better already?

>>1880054
Well you're right about one thing. We lack the source code to do anything meaningful so whether it's overhauling the endgame or overhauling leveling or even adding the qol that >>1879772 wants is not going to happen.

TERA Classic is on a patch where levelling is already super streamlined. You don't even get to see half of each area because they've removed a ton of quests. There used to be way more instances, dungeons, and cutscenes and it was all a blast. You'd spend like half a day on island of dawn, and there would be a queue, a literal line of people waiting to kill some elite mob at the top of a hill, people already making parties and learning to play together to tackle him. It was sovlfvl.

>>1880057
Why is this a gif explain yourself

Think the real sticking point here is that neither side can be fully satisfied, given the current state of Classic/v32.
Level-fags get a pretty boring ride through the level climb, due to TERA's extremely boilerplate themepark structure of collecting bear asses for NPCs while waiting for dungeon queues to pop. Endgame-fags and people rushing to the level cap get to experience the joys of sitting in Highwatch and running the same ~2-4 Dungeons forever and ever until the server shuts down.
If there anything you outright CAN'T get on another server right now compared to Classic, it's some semblance of an actual PvP scene. Savor that side of the game while it lasts if anything, since it's probably not going to come back again unless another Classic-esque server in the future somehow wins the population lottery.

>>1880065
You're right though this is kind of the worst of both worlds. I'd unironically love to play b2p release tera where island of dawn took 2 hours. I'd also love the endgame to be filled with cancer like RK9, all with the zero iframes we have now. That'd be kino

Update or even announcement when?? His mods are already making him giant change logs he could just follow and still he's silent

>>1880118
The man has a full time job you chud

>>1880057
Even though they removed the quests and, I'm glad they didn't physically remove the area so you can still visit it. Coming back here reminded me this is where you met Leander! My beloved. I think they cut him out of the story entirely...

>>1880259
The hill where people lined up to die because this guy spawned every 5 minutes and you would usually have to try again

>>1880272
Maybe you just had to be there to appreciate it but I remember feeling so victorious when I took this guy down for the first time. There would just be a bunch of people who already completed it or waiting for their turn sitting around in a circle and doing the applaud emote when someone killed him. It really was an "and then everybody clapped" moment but for real

There were 3 redeeming parts about leveling in old-ish Tera, and only 1 of them is actually specific to the game.
>1. Unnerfed BAMs were novel and challenging to the neophyte playerbase and they were rewarding in that sense to conquer, especially since it was a lot easier to find others to kill BAMs with back then to make it into a social thing, too.
>2. A bustling open world with lots of opportunities to interact with other players, and in a PvP server's case, kill or be killed while leveling, especially at BAM hotspots like the crabs at da beach. But this applies to most new MMOs.
>3. A sense of wonder when leveling where you don't know what's next, to keep you interested in not only getting to the end, but also to freshly experience the path to the end. Again, this also applies to most new MMOs.

Not only does this version have nerfed BAMs, their difficulty is trivial now to people who have played this game on and off since 2011, so the novelty that kept people fighting BAMs without feeling any kind of grindiness (despite relatively slow speeds) is gone.

For the second point, Tera classic at its highs was pretty good and it felt super alive (not just for a private server but for Tera in general, even). But with all the issues coming up, it has already fallen off and the open world leveling experience tends to be on the lonelier side, especially as people tend to just want to spam instances or certain mass-mob grind spots.

And though it should be clear, it probably needs to be said again that leveling in Tera just becomes a lot more dull when it's not your first time doing it anymore, especially if you don't have a constant of friends/guildies/other nearby players to go alongside in the journey together. You've already explored the world and its zones and dungeons, you've already had your share of killing BAMs and bosses, the open world is a lot quieter because the population spurt has long passed, and all you want to do is get past the leveling process.

Choosing levelling over endgame in tera is retarded for one reason. There is a hundred MMOs out there with the levelling they want. There is only one game with end game like tera. Why the fuck are you here for the levelling experience

Is endgame really that unique and fun in tera? I did like 10 RGs, 4 BRNMs, and i already feel bored as fuck. Is it SCHM, BRHM that really start to be fun or is it pvp?

>>1880353
The endgame isn't even good either, it's just that the class action combat is fun but the encounter design is quite shit, tera is a game that "could be good" but just fails at everything besides a few things that make a dedicated few people want to stick to it.

>>1880358
Moment to moment warrior gameplay is a fucking blast but then i finish my runs for the day and feel more empty than any game has made me feel in years, ill keep playing until the server dies though fuck it

>>1880353
these are quite literally some of the worst 65 dungeons, there's at least 20 better dungeons than rg/br/sc

And yeah, when people talk about "fixing" leveling, it ends up being one of these two things usually. Some people want to fix it (to be more enjoyable), while some want to "fix" it (to be much faster and vastly expedited). BHS threw in the towel and just nerfed all the quests and made Avatar weapons to "fix" it, and gave massive EXP bonuses to Corsairs and Kumasylum. To actually make it an enjoyable leveling experience you'd need to change a lot of things and one of the ingredients for it is not easy to maintain either (steady flux of new players and/or alts to keep the vastly oversized leveling areas populated)

>>1880353
RG and BRNM is not end game. It's fucking retarded early game that you were meant to do for like 4 days in retail. Why do you think everybody is shitting and pissing themselves asking for new dungeons worth running while retarded popo is sitting on his ass

>>1880379
>tutorial/island of dawn kicks you off at level 20 so you can go straight to queing
>buff quest xp rewards so you can continue without being dependent on dungeon ques popping or your ability to kill bams(healers)

>>1880385
Im starting to understand, its been years lol

>>1880379
That's part of why I find these guys delusional. What they want is a repeat of the new mmo boom and the experience it gives. You're not getting that and will never get that.

>>1880353
unironically try other servers

>>1880299
rare good post, 100% agreed on all points

>>1877192
>keeping your damage up outside burn is what separates mediocre players from good ones
This is irrelevant and not a valid counterargument. You're essentially saying "yeah but min/maxing" when min/maxing already exists except it matters at all times prior to Apex. It didn't actually add any optimization, it just heavily shifted the value of everything you do into tight windows which heavily devalues optimization outside of them.

>>1880621
minmaxing matters at all times even post apex

>It didn't actually add any optimization
wrong. meatier burns have many implications, for instance:
>you can save your burn for dps checks that require it, or not
>you can assign a specific member to shield duty according to their personal timers and have others burn at different times
>you can decide to sync with your party, or go offcd to maximize personal dps
>you can choose to wait for boss' forced uptime mechanic to end to not waste your burn, or tryhard during it instead if you're good enough (think of ninja IH during bahaar waves)

>>1880466
Which one is the most noob friendly, im thinking about it but never touched apex

>>1880690
>minmaxing matters at all times even post apex
Good job you missed the point entirely.
>vomit
None of this actually changes anything for reasons stated. You're coping hard.

>>1880700
you have no argument okay

>first round CS
>nobody stays to guard inner as usual
>opponent rushes ladders
>crystal broken in 7 mins
>leader ragequits

>2nd round
>we man up, break the gate, cap mid, break inner gate and bust the crystal in 4 mins

You never know how it's gonna turn out if you won't even try.

>>1880695
>>1872207

>>1880344
>Choosing levelling over endgame in tera is retarded for one reason. There is a hundred MMOs out there with the levelling they want.

This argument is retarded for one reason. There are none, not one (1) other MMO with combat system as engaging as Tera.

>>1880690
Bro why are you arguing with a retarded ignorant chimp...

>>1880731
and yet you want to prolong the part where it's least interesting and engaging

>>1880284
Fond memories. I got wrecked the first time as a total noob and a friendly popori priest helped me out. I made a good friend that day.

>>1880731
Tera roguelike where. That's the only place I levelling working as a focus. I hate levelling otherwise since it's impossible to play with friends

>>1880738
I like to study the class I play and experiment with different skill combinations in various scenarios against different types of enemies, so that I'll feel rewarded when I'm finally 65 and vastly better with my role than 99% of others. It is both interesting and engaging.

>>1880690
>minmaxing matters
no

>>1880757
Clear SCHM without minmaxing bro. I'll wait

>>1880734
I enjoy witnessing self professed quill seller mchm gods make up a billion convoluted reasons to rationalize the fact they got hard filtered by apex apm requirements and bosses complexity
they will go at any length to mend their cracked egos. anything that isn't admitting they're complete garbage at the game and always have been

>>1880750
v32 classes take no time at all to understand but alright

>>1880757
then this discussion shouldn't matter to you at all

how's starscape's population?

>>1880775
>self professed quill seller mchm gods
Holy shit a knower of the retarded shit I have to constantly see. Those guys who say tera past 2012 is bad. But really, they suspiciously disappeared after dpsmeter and real competition became a thing. What they want is to be gods in an age where nobody knew about backcritting or basic dpsing and are upset that they can't do the bare minimum of trying when nobody else is to make millions. Queen wasn't that hard when it was killable with 3 people. Now they have to come to terms with having to compete with everybody trying hard neutralizing their advantage of just trying and realize they weren't actually that good.

>>1880775
I didn't get filtered by apex apm but I don't want to play with it all the time because I have carpal tunnel syndrome, any game that makes you spam buttons that fast for an extended period of time is bad for your health, also it'd be disingenuous to say that the vast majority of people didn't get filtered by modern TERA bosses because nobody will play it without the guide addon that plays bosses for you.
It also takes away the weighty action gameplay feel of the game which is the biggest selling point of the combat, you're hardly playing an action game anymore, more of a generic MMO rotation simulator, and PvP is unplayable with it.
I don't really see the point of playing apex TERA, you can just play any other MMO and get the same feeling, most of them have harder content than TERA ever did at this point so it's not like it's some flex to be good at a literal EoS'd game.

>>1880783
case in point >>1880785

>>1880785
>I don't really see the point of playing apex TERA, you can just play any other MMO and get the same feeling, most of them have harder content than TERA
which ones pls i'll go play them immediately

>>1880783
I see your point but slamming your face on your keyboard isn't peak gaming either.

>>1880703
>gets called out for not actually presenting any arguments for reasons already explained
>"uh.. um.. n-n-no u!"
Concession accepted. Thanks for making this so easy.

You guys realize you can go play apex right..? You don't have to sit here and waffle about it.

>>1880802
you literally dismissed my counterexamples regarding burn decision making and execution as "vomit" and have the face to say this
the cope is unreal

>>1880801
In all honesty I prefer slower combat with more emphasis on prediction and thoughtful gameplay. I think games do get shittier when the APM gets too high because it turns from predictive to reactive and reacting is easy.

>>1880795
ziv ults, lost ark hell modes
that should give you a few thousand hours of time waste

>>1880810
>counterexamples
Your counterexamples don't mean shit for reasons I already explained. You're talking as if all of this sort of optimization did not exist prior to Apex. This is objectively false.
>hurr durr cooldown alignment and holding DPS phases
You clueless retard that shit was being done in 2012. Shut the fuck up. Concession remains accepted, you are dismissed.

>>1880816
you are fucking retarded and it's clear I need to spell out every single implication of my argument or you won't understand anything. so here it is: if burns are meatier said optimizations I mentioned are way more important and impactful than they've ever been. that's it, are you following me? are you capable of understanding this? no? didn't think so
I can tell you are extremely salty right now, did I touch some nerve about quill selling? felt yourself called out? not in business anymore so all you can do is cope and project your insecurities onto myself? very sad existence

>>1880828
it's funny how close you are to understanding yet still failing to grasp it

>>1880828
>if burns are meatier said optimizations I mentioned are way more important
Entirely irrelevant. The fact that you don't see this and you're still coming at me with such bravado is baffling. Optimizing isn't any more difficult in Apex, it's just mostly centralized around specific periods which makes everything outside of those periods substantially less valuable. Let me dumb this down for you since you're clearly retarded:
Pre-Apex: Try your best 100% of the time because everything matters at all times and every single mistake can be felt.
Post-Apex: Half of the fight doesn't really matter. Burn phases matter substantially more. Put a majority of your effort into 30% of the fight and you can look like an all-star.

Concession remains accepted, you remain dismissed. Shut the fuck up retard.

>>1880860
that's not how it worked though, if you're asleep for half the fight then people can tell

>>1880871
>has to rely on hyperbole and fallacy to make an argument
The concessions just don't stop coming. Far too easy but I'll still take it.

it's crazy how easy it is to tell who sucks at this game and who doesn't, just from their takes on it

>before apex classes did damage with their burn skills and out of their burn
>after apex classes now do slightly more damage in their burn!

>>1880860
Maybe this is the only game they play but in every game that has both types of class (burst vs consistent dps), the consistent dps classes are always much harder to play because you HAVE to be pumping uptime to even compete, to the point people end up considering those classes shit because the average player doesn't have perfect uptime and because the whole concept of burst windows is favored in MMO raid gameplay, the only time where this isn't true is on a sandbag boss.
Things like mechanics and forced boss downtime can fuck you much harder than someone who operates on a cooldown based burst cycle, if there's a mechanic that forces you to drop uptime with a burst class you're losing relatively little compared to a class that doesn't have a burst window, your DPS outside of that window matters comparatively less.
It also raises the skill/dps floor substantially, it's simply easier to do well when the majority of your damage is condensed into a short window.
tl;dr burst gameplay is designed for retards to feel better about their shit uptime, and at the top level it doesn't raise the skill ceiling.

>>1880860
>Pre-Apex: Try your best 100% of the time because everything matters at all times and every single mistake can be felt.
and the exact same happens in post-apex

>Post-Apex: Half of the fight doesn't really matter. Burn phases matter substantially more. Put a majority of your effort into 30% of the fight and you can look like an all-star.
this is pure fantasy. if you're pushing dps there are no mistakes allowed anywhere, even out of burn. if you believe you can take it easy you will be mid at best, there's a reason players chase maximum uptime constantly

>>1880906
>if there's a mechanic that forces you to drop uptime with a burst class you're losing relatively little compared to a class that doesn't have a burst window, your DPS outside of that window matters comparatively less
that's only if mechanic doesn't happen during burst, otherwise it does indeed raise the ceiling

>>1880906
the biggest burst dps have to build their bursts, building it is more important than using it, you're retarded

where the FUCK is popo

>>1880919
>and the exact same happens in post-apex
At this point I can only assume that you're legitimately too stupid to understand the point being spoonfed to you. I pity you.

I wish Lancer got the Debilitate and Wallop shields, that would be a great addition even for this version. Everything else can stay the same.

i'm glad the berserker tank retards shut up about that nonsense already

>>1880954
you're willingly being dishonest and deceptive for no fucking reason. it's not a matter of UnDeRsTaNdInG it's that I genuinely do not agree with your retarded condescending misinformed nigger ass holy fuck
now that you're finished ignoring everything I say to act patronizingly stupid and jerked yourself off to completion you can go back to being absolute garbage at the game

>>1881076
actually i have not jerked myself to completion yet, my elinholes are not online

EVERYBODY SHUT THE FUCK UP
Today is fucking tuesday. The day that popo said he was going to do the update to fix fucked up loot.

What is going on??? Where's this child support dodging bum ass motherfucker???

>>1881082
Popo is tech illiterate

>>1881082
Is there anything known about this fuck at all? How credible is he? What did he learn? Does he have anyone else involved into the actual management of the server? Smells like he's just gonna fuck off and do shit after the first month of elite payout.

>>1881086
>Does he have anyone else involved into the actual management of the server?
allegedly there's 1 other dev that's not in the discord and doesn't play the game

>>1881076
>retard spergs out
I have not said anything dishonest. I have not said anything deceptive. You're going apeshit because you can't stand anything that doesn't align with your opinion. Apparently you stopped mentally maturing in elementary school.
>u disgreeeee wit me so u bad at gayme!
I've cleared all content ever released in the game going all the way back to 2012 and I've been topping meters before you even knew it existed in TERA. You're nobody. Shut the fuck up.

Surely someone less retarded will take this opportunity to make another v31 server

>>1881090
you are a seething quill seller that took it extremely personal once I explicitly called you out. that is all you are

>fallacy
Easy concession.

>nigger
easy fap session

doesn't this just prove that v31 isn't that great when you have to change a mountain of things that were just changed later

>>1881076
How do you propose doing maximum damage if you go afk and miss 40% of your damage outside of burn. And do you consider losing 40% of your damage not to be fucking massive.

>>1881101
The content is fine. Darkan is one of the best bosses the game has seen(which is probably why they kept bringing him back.) The only real issue with this period of the game is the disgustingly absurd power creep every time they added a new class but that shit is mostly easy to fix with some number adjustments. The only one which can't be easily fixed is Brawler for reasons already stated in this thread.

>>1881092
>>1881101
>v31
Isn't Classic a v32 server? Not that there's probably much difference between the two, admittedly.

i just want buffed vanguard quests so i can fucking level on my own faster

Darkan is fine, the rest of the dungeon is not
and nothin wrong with Brawler, assuming you get the changes that came with lancer and warrior too

>>1881102
that's exactly what I'm saying

>>1881106
It should be v31. There are no v32 leaked server files.

>>1881126
I'll be real with you this argument is so retarded I'm not even fully reading the reply chain to keep track of who is who

>>1881127
Ah, fair enough.
Shame we only have either v31 or v100 to choose from when it comes to this game. Still more choice than most older MMOs, which is nice, but it would've been cool to see what v1.01 or whatever might've been like.

>>1881101
"Classic" era TERA is fundamentally fine, the game as a whole just needs adjustments built around this era. Whether Popo is capable of bringing us tweaked fun dungeons not from this era with tweaked loot and all of our classes equalized has yet to be seen. It's possible some classes have the short end of the stick during this patch, level 60 TERA is when the game was perfectly balanced. That would also be something Popo needs to address, slight tweaks until we get that level 60 fairness feeling back. Just being a level 60-only server is also a bad idea since it really didn't have much other than MC, KN, and Nexus. We need the best from all versions and to carefully bring them together with class balance being the #1 issue, relevance being the next issue (why even do all sorts of various dungeons in the first place, what do we get out of it?)

>>1881129
Server files are available for v71 and v92, but there's no point of hosting a server on those versions. v71 is post Apex, but half of the classes are missing their Apex skills. v92 is just right before the 64-bit client update and it's basically the same as v100 but with less content.
There's also v29, which is base Fate of Arun before Gunner was released, but the Russian guy who has the files isn't sharing them.

>>1881148
>There is a version near Classic without Gunner to ruin class balance
>Horded by a single Russian who isn't doing anything with it
Why is it always the fucking Russians with this private server drama, man.

server bacc

Any etching master who can etch a lewd crest on my Elin? I'm thinking increased sensitivity, can only bark and has to walk on all fours for the curses.

>>1881268
Yeah sure.
*Curses you to mow my lawn and take out the trash instead*

>>1881326
It doesn't work that way! It's supposed to be sexy!

>>1881160
Pls understand, old MMOs are the glimmer of joy remaining in their miserable lives. If they can't rule those, what would they do?

Sexy Elf NPC...

>>1881496
shes asking for it

This mod is literal hitler...

The mods are at war with each other...

>>1881650
>>1881657
so uhhh does this mean no update to loot or anything?

>>1881657
Subhuman has been kind of a cunt but it's deserved.
1. Popo just wasted 2 weeks of works for alliance stuff and he's the Exarch of EU and was about to get 70k gold
2. Popo promised and I quote "looking at providing a form of compensation to Alliance players that participated this past week" and there was 0 return from that since Sunday, nothing came out of this at all.
3. Popo also promised a "drop rate update" whatever that means, on Tuesday and it has been complete radio silence AGAIN, and even to his fucking mod teams who are doing it for free and trying their best to calm the people anger.

Honestly it's kind of crazy how much of a wasted opportunity this has all been, between Popo's dumb decision to nerf the overall drop in the game, nerf the vanguard rewards (both in term of golds and feedstocks) and then the latest GG nerfs without any other change which has basically completely fucked over the economy for newer players, this whole thing has just been a shitshow.

I can't even imagine myself getting a renegate or generation piece right now.

>>1881676
And there's still people defending him

Is there supposed to be an update today or something?

fuck this, i'll just play starscape. it's closer to me geographically anyway, and if i'm being real, there's nothing inherently good about this classic version of the game where all the classes feel clunky as shit and get btfo by gunner, and the lead dev's a fucking retard, and i cant imagine wasting a month of my life (I have a job so i cant play 24/7) grinding to cap just to get there when everyone else has long ago gotten sick of it and quit

fucking ridiculous
it isn't hard, why are the people who step up to host these things always inept power tripping retards
if i had the resources i'd just do it myself. fuck, i'm so mad. classic na had all the dungeons i like. i love rg, love br, love sc. i was so fucking excited. but the classes feel like shit in this version and the dev's dumb as fuck and made it this massive fucking grind just to get there and enjoy it. and go figure, i joined right as people began jumping ship.

fuck my life

>i love rg, love br, love sc
>is butthurt about doing more of those
the grind isn't even that much, if you're lucky you'll get +9 disco in a week (after getting to 65), if you're unlucky you'll have +9 disco in two weeks, and then another week to +12 all of that

i can't speak on generation because i haven't got that far yet but i don't anticipate it taking ridiculously long, i'm not even an elite paypiggy

>>1881783
*i drag u into the alley and pull ur spats off*
*i push u against the wall and move the crotch of ur panties to the side*
*i sex u and cum inside*
"uh, uh, uh, I love cumming big cums"
*i choke u until you pass out before i sneak away*

>>1881783
>i love rg, love br, love sc.
Good news, all of those dungeons are also available on Starscape.
SCHM is even one of the hardest dungeons on that servers, to the point where only a few groups have ever reliably cleared it over there (SCNM is still reasonable.)

>>1881799
>but i don't anticipate it taking ridiculously long,
Bro... gen takes 1k mwa and 500 t6 feed just to unlock the option to upgrade past 12. And takes much more enchanting materials to get there

>>1881809
oh wait, it is? for some reason i just assumed they'd be gone and it'd be rk9 slop (nothing against rk9 i just ran it so much in og tera that i fucking can't stand it now)
this helps a lot, it honestly seals the deal for me. i'm so fucking tired of hoping na classic gets better. i also dont like pvp and they keep calling it a pvp server, so fuck that as well.
OH, and no fucking costumes. god what a deal breaker. all i wanted to do was be a shortstack with fat fucking thighs and a cute school uniform.
>>1881799
>is butthurt about doing more of those
I'm not? I don't know what you mean. When I played the original tera, I ran RG like 300 times or some shit. I even took an old screencap of it. I'm probably autistic; there are certain things I can honestly never get enough of. I was excited to hit cap. But (and I know how weaksauce this sounds) just the journey there was so fucking terrible, and watching this dumbass dev push players out of the game bit by bit, knowing that by the time I arrived there'd probably be no one left to even play with, just killed it for me man.
>>1881800
why did you sneak away afterwards? take me back to your house, do it some more.

>>1881821
>keep calling it a pvp server,
My guild is bricked because our guild leader got banned for killing noobex

What's the closest thing to Starscape that isn't located on the fucking US West coast holy fucking lmfao

>>1881834
there are like 3 eu tera pservers to pick from and a south american one as well iirc
starscape stands out for me precisely because it's on the west coast. otherwise i'd join one of the eu ones; they all seem better and more populated desu but i cant be playing this fucking game on 300ms

it's over bros our streamer ran away to starscape

>>1881821
>knowing that by the time I arrived there'd probably be no one left to even play with, just killed it for me man.
wtf you talking about? there is plenty of people running the 65 dungeons