Thread 1921171

KNIGGAS could be here...

At this point, which character is less monkey-brained, Lawbringer or Gryphon?

I hate chinks, i hate italians

>>1921216
I actually like fighting Jiang Jun, but every other chink I absolutely hate.

>>1921207
i would say lawbringer. he has a lot more variety in moveset, feats and perks. you can absolutly play monkey-brained with bash-light-bash-light though

>>1921349
bash after any light attack was a fuckin' mistake

Gryphon is still such a squandered concept. He's supposed to be Lawbringer if Lawbringer spent years learning moves from Chinese, Japanese, and Viking users of similar polearm weapons (or at least similarly large weapons)

His main influences should have been
>Nobushi
>Jiang Jun
>Highlander (Zweihanders and Claymores are functionally short-handled polearms with how they're used)
>Kensei
>Raider
And hell, if you were to make him nowadays you'd also have Sohei in the mix.

But instead he takes none of the actual gameplay concepts from any of those characters. He steals animations and voicelines, but nothing else.

He SHOULD have had a stance, maybe even two stances. A character that fluidly switches between different fighting styles that he's learned. At the very least he should have adopted the backstep from JJ and Nobu, but with his own spin on it.

Proposed changes for Highlander

Nerf
>increase the recovery of the kick so that it's GB vulnerable
currently if you mash kick you'll just kick people who try to GB you

Buff
>increase the hyperarmor frames for his neutral heavies so that they're comparable to Warlord (currently you only get 100-200 ms instead of the standard 300ms that neutral HA heavies get)
Maybe even 400ms. Warlord's HA neutral heavies exist alongside his other amazing neutral pressure. Sohei's neutral heavies all get 500ms of hyperarmor.

These two changes feel very safe and pedestrian. I don't think anyone would have a problem with them.

Khatun feels too high IQ for just how monkeybrained and powerful your opponent can be. Haven't bought her but I've training with her and just thinking this feels like a lot of work for how braindead some popular heroes are. It's probably just inexperience/skill issue on my end because she seems really cool to play.

>>1922331
Its a damn shame the prince of persia skin went to Ara and not Khatum

>>1921821
>Tap back on right stick becomes like a polearm twirl deflect, very clearly wu lin inspired, attacks pass right through it. Even says a short bark in mandarin to nail it home
>But you can follow it up with a Highlander style kick to follow up into Veteran's Slash or JJ's stamina draining slap, which is more like a backhand strike for Gryphon.
>Do something all his light finishers being undodgeables. Boring, unininspired. Noone likes em.
>Give him some executions from other polearm wielders as well because why not
https://youtu.be/6X4hTXFMD4Y?si=FLnZKsixsgGmUOEo
https://youtu.be/thaFTD6MEhA?si=DgcU8e9P8n_xhAqi
https://youtu.be/U8-xXAUQsOY?si=Mz_-KftQjL643A26

If those order descriptions are anything to go by he's basically disappeared anyway so off to the backbench he goes. A shame.

I have no For Honor reaction images... Post what you got.
And you have to hurry. I have it on good word Italy will send a redhead to te noia you if you don't.

>>1923327
I have undodgeables, send all the italians you want

>>1923327
>pulls out ethernet cable
what now spaghetti bitch

>>1923320
>that pic
proof that the knights have the best fashion

>>1923353
>>1923329
Great. Now I have no reaction images and this bitch keeps eating all my spaghetti and won't leave.

Why shouldn't I buy Sohei? I'm liking what I'm seeing.

>>1923540
he's cool as fuck
go for it

>>1923577
He is but so is Khatun. Can't decide.

>>1923639
One is a tall dude. The other one is a (literal) Mongoloid chick.

>>1923954
dual sabres and a defelct dash are cool tho

>>1923956
Sohei allows you to fight the world all by yourself, forever. If you can keep collecting souls, you can continue to heal back to full health.

The max possible HP pool of a Sohei is 176 (with the correct feats)

Imagine starting a 1v4 with all of your souls, and you have your T4 in your back pocket. They wail on you, bringing you down to like 20 HP. Nope, you use your T2 and heal back to a full 176. And then you immediately pop your T4 and get all your souls back.

A Sohei that can get their souls back is better at stalling than anyone in this game. If you can get your shit, your actual true HP pool can balloon to the hundreds.

>>1923961
Yeah I went ahead and bought Sohei. He's just taking some getting used to. I like being a HP juggernaut as Warlord so I like seeing Sohei has that potential too. Plus, warrior monks are just fucking rad.

>>1923972
As someone who never plays Sohei, but has played against a bunch of really good ones, here is my general advice.

1. Don't start trying to soft feint your zone to GB right out the gate. Let it fly a couple times. See if they're just blocking or dodge attacking it. Once you've seen what they're up to, then start getting those GB soft feints in.

2. Your neutral heavies are *technically* inferior to your zone. They're 100ms slower and deal 1 less damage. However you still get HA at 400ms. Throw these out every now and then to mix up your neutral game. Sometimes you'll throw it out and people will just eat it because they never see the move.

3. Do NOT be constantly going for souls 100% of the time. Sometimes the best way to mess with your opponent is just going for damage or using a certain soul finisher multiple times.

4. Jumping off the previous point. Your top heavy unblockable finisher deals the most damage (20). Use it. Your top light finisher is undodgable (and all his light finishers are 400ms). Use it. Hell you might even want to spam that one. By using these top attacks repeatedly you're conditioning your opponent to go for top parries. And if they're trying to dodge the top heavy unblockable, you mix in the undodgable light attack to discourage that behavior.

5. You don't *need* your default T3 unless you really want the meme of 1-shotting someone from full health. Your T1 is more than enough for supplementing your super's already absurd damage. It's basically up to preference between default T3 and Tough As Nails.

6. Your side heavy finishers both pin people. This means they interrupt hyperarmor. Won't come up very often, but if your opponent has lots of hyperarmor, consider throwing out your side heavy finishers if they're trying to trade. Because your damage is shit, people WILL try to trade.

Sohei is arguably better equipped for true "mind-games" than any other character. Condition people. Establish expectations. Groom people.

>>1924031
I am reading, I am learning, I am integrating, I am turning knowledge into experience into habit

so sohei has what shuggies had

>>1924059
In what way?

>>1924054
nta but also: your dodge heavy can execute. when you get a gb go for your heavy souls first, since the rest can easily gotten by parries. keep your souls for healing feat or tier 3 for more damage, dont go for seven point strike unless you really hate that one guy. zone into zone to external in ganks with its huge hitbox.

>>1924261
>>1924054
I am that anon
Getting heavy souls off GB is 100% the move every single time.

I agree the 7force is basically a "fuck you" button
but sometimes getting rid of a guy quickly before an enemy teammate shows up is huge.

Sohei's zone, in terms of properties, hitboxes, and timings, is one of the single best moves in the whole game. That zone is a fucking workhorse. The mileage that Sohei gets out of that zone attack is ridiculous. As a dedicated Highlander autist I am jealous of its soft-feint. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO FAST FLOW DIRECTLY FROM MY ZONE GOD DAMN IT.

the fact that all the light finishers are 400ms often means you don't even need the heavy parries to get them all

>>1923327
Che noia

>>1924329
Yeah I'm getting into my flow with sohei. People fucking PANIC when they see your soul count climbing so I'm having to cope with panic light spam

I exclusively play heavies because my brain small and i prefer straightforward mechanics

>>1925446
as opposed to the gigabrain assassin characters like Orochi and Tiandi

>>1925448
but tiandi is vanguard
wait a minute gameplay wise, is tiandi just assassin?

>>1925461
>is the character with more dodge attacks than anyone else in the game just an assassin
he also has a forward dodge deflect

blame ubisoft for their retarded """class""" system

what the hell makes LB a "hybrid" instead of a heavy?

i miss the old shuggy hug mechanics

>>1924059
>>1925715
what?

>>1925721
one move that does big damage on certain situations and also health recovery?

fuck this i can't take it anymore, i uninstalled this again

>>1926471
what character were you playing?

>>1926476
against chinks and the italian nigger whore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R9Qiej-Tqo&ab

>>1926483
WE ARE HEAVEN AND EARTH, YOU SKILLESS DOGS! IF YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE SUPERIORITY OF 4000 YEARS OF CHINESE MARTIAL ARTS HISTORY THEN YOU CLEARLY LACK EYES WITH WHICH TO SEE MOUNT TAI! WE CHINESE HAVE NEVER EVER BEEN DEFEATED, OUR GLORIOUS WINNING STREAK OF 4000 YEARS HAS GONE UNCONTESTED TO THINK ONE SUCH AS YOU COULD EVER HOPE TO DENT SUCH RIGHTEOUS WEIGHT IS LAUGHABLE!

>>1923327
I guess last thread's OP works

crossover hero skin ideas. Post em

this is going to be really out there.
but an Akkadian skin with the Sargon type mask for either Berserker or the mongolian chick and change the weapon to 2 sapparas

Holy shit I didn't know there were still For Honor discussions on this site after /fhg/ died a slow painful death all those years ago... damn...

>>1927154
Gryphon

>>1926483
I'd rather fight 1000 Virtuosas in a row if it meant I never had to fight varangian again

Soheifag here, got to rep 1 about halfway to rep 2. Is there any other way to get my nuke stab off or does it have to be off of a forward bash?

>>1928977
any parry will guarantee the bash, which grants it

if you GB near a wall you can throw them into the wall, wait briefly (like half a second) and then bash to get it

pretty sure if you throw someone into a wall and INSTANTLY bash them it will do a janky hit-stun thing where your bash won't connect because they're still in the "guardbroken wallsplat" state

>>1928977
read this page

https://forhonorinfohub.com/character?=35

>some peacemaker nigger stabs, and runs away until they can corner me in a duel

what a nigger

>>1930871
>Knight player is a coward
Imagine my surprise

>>1930871
>assassin acts like an assassin
>WTF BRO
also
>dying to a PK
nigga what?

>>1931089
it was a duel, nigger
not domination match
what kind of gaynigger fagmaster playing DUEL MODE stabs you and runs away just for the bleeding damage? and i dont mean just dodging away but actually running across the fucking map?

>>1931104
I do that all the time

how do people even half of this roster and not fall asleep

i called multiple people all forms of 'nigger' i know and still didnt get banned

i guess ubisoft doesnt care anymore or i didnt call enough people niggers or faggot yet?

>>1932960
I believe it's about how many people report you. You could actually not have violated any rules, but with sufficient reports against your account, you will get suspended etc.

Got your Apollyon shader yet?

sigh

You reckon there'll be a season where they just let us choose which menu theme we want? Choose what minion skins we can see and everything that was time limited is now just available?

>>1933555
Absolutely not lol

>>1933623
Should be at the 10 year mark.

>>1933635
Servers will be shut down long before that idea even gets floated in their office

BEHOLD... fresh fashion

>>1933870
>elemental themes
kino

>>1933870
>effects
>toys R us sword
yikes

>>1933870
change the weapon to a normal sword and its good

>>1934441
Or at least the blade

give me some warden fashion ideas
so far I've got
>Byzantine
>Kingsguard
>elf looking mf legendary
>basic crusader

>>1934500
That's about all you can make with warden isn't it
I just wear the Dullahan set

>>1934501
I wash thinking of making a medieval vader or some shit
maybe an eastern outfit with the face masks, wish he had some curved sword options that look good. I kick myself for missing the event flamberge blade

>>1933533
Time to come home (you hate your home)

>>1923954
>The other one is a (literal) Mongoloid chick.
That's fine, the real shit part is how her heavy deflect punish. You know, the thing you'll be using 100% of the time. DOESN'T INTERRUPT ARMOR. LITERALLY FUCKING USELESS

Are you supposed to not be able to dodge 400ms chain lights?

>>1934902
You aren't supposed to be able to react to anything apparently. You can only guess

>>1935157
just throw lights and dodge on red. Game was solved ages ago

Why is every breach game so outrageously one sided?

>>1935421
Just play dominion.

>>1935829
But breach gives more xp, rewards and is a bit more engaging

What do you even do against constant relentless soft-feint gb/unblockable/dodge-on-red spam.
These characters that got reworked into this generic mess are a fucking nightmare to deal with, it's like they don't have to commit to any attack and can just throw out whatever impulsively comes to mind.

>>1936064
Gonna play as some character for special needs kids, see how that turns out

3-0 to me and I'm falling asleep playing shuggy. This fucking game

>>1936064
What's wrong anon? Can't you make reads? :^)

Heads or tails?

>>1921207
Lawbringer

maybe i should play nobushi

>it's a raider with unlimited fucking stamina constantly feints or pulls the ol' sidered to topred manouver on you for free forever
ah, yes.

>>1936436
At least it's a soft feint from only one direction

>make my way over to the big teamfight
>immediately lose 2 thirds of my health to overlapping external unblockable heavy spam, before I can even get in range to hit anyone with anything
>revenge bar sitting pretty at precisely zero
This game is just pure nonsense

>>1934780
Seriously though, what's the point of deflecting anything if they can just hyperarmor through it

>>1936472
Nevermind, I'm retarded you can do a kick followup on deflect.

post more fashion

boring tin can incel

not enough toys r us and shiny effects?

whoremonger still autowins breach on attackers with a tier 1 feat btw

e-sports ready competitive skill based read based e-celeb and reddit approved game btw

>>1936615
>actually using the egyptian armor
Apologize

>>1936854
Crazy that those warmonger feats exist and people still expect the devs to give a fuck about "balance" lmao
>>1936893
chad. oppressed sohei underdogs rise up

>>1936893
apologize for what mr shadow the hedgehog?
Its the closest to the byzantine style with the colorful accents mimicking mosaics

>>1936931
Yeah you're an incel, we know. You don't need to write a paragraph when your shit taste in heroes and aesthetics already said it all a thousand fold.

>>1937034
>plays sohei
>talks about taste in heroes

>>1937052
I'm the sohei, that was someone else.

>>1937052
Well I was gonna be on your side and say that guy's overreacting but never mind. And I am neither of those guys.
Farming up 7k for the Kotonoha outfit. I like the pattern on it. Only at Rep 2 so not even close to unlocking all the outfits for him.

you get the black color for the hero wether you win or not in the realistic duels
do you get anything extra if you win?
I just get into a game and afk until they kill me

>>1937257
Yeah I've gotten it off of losses and I've also gotten it first try everytime

>>1936615
>>1936931
this looks very cool dude, history maxxing over edgefashion all day every day
can't wait to unlock medjai to make some great ancient egypt fits

>>1937319
First rare set he gets turns him into an armored mummy

>>1937319
Insane cope. Of course you want to play the fat stick nigger

its all coming together slowly

>>1938237
tin can incel

>Overall rep 2, their character is level 1. Never even touched before
ok
>Perfect deflects everything, parries every light can cancel their unblockables almost like a full second into them, softfeints, perfect punishes, dodges every mixup. Absolutely no chance in hell of even touching them.

>>1938263
>Enemy leaps off the ground for an attack
>Suddenly, no they didn't it was a feint and you're being guardbreaked
Do you know how jarring this looks

Why do indicators still keep on disappearing during fights? Total bullshit

>>1938237
now make him fuck virtuosa in a manner that would make slayed.coom pause.

>>1938361
im making these helmets to 3D print them, not to animate

>>1938366
Ah, hm.

well done anon.

>the viking bot still wins the war map
good to see nothing changed.

>>1937414
sick as fuck, under much consideration i will first unlock ocelotl after that medjai.
game is fun asf and when i lose i don't get mad like i would in league of legends (thank god i quit that shit game months ago)

Why are the new character's feet so thin? Shit looks weird as fuck. Also that creepy smile makes her look like a fucking slasher villain in game. Freak

I just recently downloaded this game again to play with my friend... and I fucking hate it so much. It can be fun when it goes right, but I don't think I have ever raged like this in any other game.
It feels to me like MOBA on steroids in this area. The only saving grace is that the matches aren't 40 minutes long.

They should give Kyoshin the generic anime protag haircut

>175ms on a 144hz monitor on human benchmark
>still can't parry lights even when I'm fighting some button mashing baboon who literally only throws lights like a spastic
should I just kms or what?

All a man can do is laugh

maybe I should learn to play lawbringers instead

>>1938553
>>1939997
shit taste

>>1941144
Not this again.

>2 (two, dos, zwei) orders for playing with a friend
>vanguard order
>samurai order
Guess it's Kensei time

>>1942641
i will never touch a samurai character. i'll pass on the 100 steel thank you very much

>>1942981
this but viking or the (((chinese)))

Remember when we thought shitokiri was the worst it could ever get?

>>1942981
I'm straight up Shugorkin it

>>1943027
my balls have been folded 1000 times

>>1942981
>Sohei (male locked)
>Kyoshin (male locked)
>Aramusha (male locked)
>Shugoki (male locked)
Damn it's a sausagefest around here. FemAramushas when?

I wish I could play Kensei or Warden but they just don't gel with me in anyway. I like Zhan hu but that fuckers simple as hell and fun about it.

I also like conqueror but ehhh that dudes got a hard time doing anything it feels like.

>quickchat Thanks! to my team-mate for helping me win a fight
>guy we killed has a psychotic breakdown and starts emoting and spamming quickchat for the rest of the match
virtual insane asylum

>>1943149
>asylum
why doesn't man just stab the other guy? is he stupid?

who is that autistic samurai that just sidesteps around

they should add a zulu or maori warrior to the outlanders

they should add george floyd as an honorary vikang

they should add vikings

They should

(((they)))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNH7I8iXv64
Shut the fuck up you schizo nigger they just announced cross progression.

who gives a fuck about cross progression. I have never played on anything other than my PC and I never will.

NOOOOOOO NOW I CAN'T SMURF ON CONSOLE!

they should add a thick tribal brown girl

>>1943840
There are people who bought the game on oldgen and had way too much shit unlocked to switch (me)

>>1943840
I give a fuck, played on the Xbone and they refused to give cross prog so I just never bought it on pc when I switched platforms.
Anyways, I came here to ask is my boy Lawbringer safe? Is he still dogshit after they removed shove on block? Any reworks I should be aware of? Fucking love my boy but they murdered him when I was still playing

>>1944195
isnt the progression tied to your ubi account?

>>1944027
female gender for ocelotl would give you that
but that's non-white AND non-male representation.
scary stuff, idk if people could handle that

>>1944775
damn id let her execute me

>>1944775
You vill play ze man-sized butch chinese pirate

so when does the copyright on the battle system expire so we can get the knockoff FH with anime girls that we deserve?

>>1944904
It's not copyright, it's a patent.

>>1944906
Didn't absolver do something similar?

>>1944904
>not a star wars game

>>1944909
Absolver is completely different

yea absolver has a 4 stance direction system with each stance/direction having it's own moveset
visually they are similar

>>1944913
Reality is perception and I don't think it is different at all

>>1944703
Yeah, and it wouldn't and won't apply to other platforms until this next update

>>1944471
LB is really good right now. He doesn't play like he did before but he's strong

what are some of the chuddest heroes

>>1945048
Me

>>1945048
i would say any male samurai, but chuds would prob go for knights since they could be racist towards asians.
we wuz conquerors n shiet

Has shaolin ever been nerfed in this game's history? How has this literal monkey been allowed to remain this busted for so many years?
>literally never has to commit to anything ever
>the one unreactable bash he can't feint is unpunishable because he can just follow up on a whiff anyway
>oh you don't have an auto parry script enabled? Here take this enhanced top light immediately into my autowin shitter stance with an unreactable unpunishable bash (see line 2), a feintable sweep, omnidirectional crushing counters and an undodgeable that I can just feint into GB after seeing that you guessed correctly and then punish you for trying to punish me wa bi bo boah lolololo

>>1945136
yeah fuck shaolin. that sweep is nonsense easy to get and the punish where he whacks your dick is stupid damaging for how easy it is.

>>1945136
>Has shaolin ever been nerfed in this game's history?
are you telling me you didn't notice the massive nerf to his follow up on a whiffed sweep? he cant anymore, but they also made sweep gb invulnerable on whiff. applause all around for the devs, this big brained nerf didn't fix a fucking thing

>>1945136
I honestly just leave if there's one in a game. I dont have time to deal with that bullshit

>>1945048
The entire knight faction

>>1945368
There's so much shit in this game that's leave-on-sight for me now that it's not even worth the time or effort to boot up anymore. Apathy has finally broken the curse

>people who execute in duels
nigga I got places to be

>>1945707
>benedictio militis with effects on round 1

>>1946286
>pulls cable and gets into another match faster than watching a fuckass animation

>>1946316
NO I SPENT STEEL ON THOSE WATCH IT WATCH IT WATCH IIIIIT

>>1946333
no

>nobushitniggertranny week
time to uninstall the game for a week

>ad mortem with lawbringer
>they move to the same side i'm swinging
>blade goes literally through them
>but ad mortem isn't undodgeable so it does nothing
All i'm saying is, is that it should be undodgeable.

THEY'RE INSIDE THE WALLS

all zone attacks should be undodgeable tbqh.

Nobu hero skin

>>1946707
Is she...barefoot? With that new execution she's got?

Y9S3 TU1 Testing Grounds
Centurion

>>1946807
Peacekeeper

>>1946707
>another maskless skin

>>1946810
Shinobi
Shotgun shuriken is gone

>>1946817
Berserker
Valhalla's Blessing duration is down from 20s to 10s and the cooldown has been increased from 120s to 180s

>>1946820
Revenge scaling

Y9S3 TU1 Patch Notes
(no slides) Virtuosa bug fixes for minion lane and no more target swap when riposting
No buffs/nerfs for Virtuosa
Quick Play settings are now saved

>>1946849
Aramusha

>>1946853
Shugoki

>>1946855
Gladiator

>>1946858
Shinobi

>>1946861
Conqueror

Thank you screenshot Anon

And that's a wrap.
>>1946877
My pleasure.

I still like Virtuosa!

>No Nuxia buffs
ARE THEY COURTING DEATH?

>>1946865
can't wait to see how jank this shit looks. I'm betting we have a new ugliest move in the game

>>1946823
what does this mean? My revenge builds more the more damage I take in a gank situation assuming I can avoid that damage?

>>1946803
She's got sandals on also
>execution named "futile footrest"
>never once do her feet make ANY contact with the victim whatsoever
Unironically never been more disappointed and that's saying something for this piece of shit ass game.

>>1947196
Revenge gain is multiplied by how much damage reduction you have currently, so you'll gain more revenge from confirmed ganks and consecutive hits.

>>1947135
https://youtu.be/gtnHHgwaBkM?t=8220

>>1947196
Right now, if you hit an enemy with an attack that normally does 20 damage, but the enemy is in 2nd hit stun from a gank and has 75% damage reduction, they only take 5 damage, but still get 20 revenge.
The training grounds change makes it so revenge gain is affected by damage modifiers. Using the previous example, the enemy would take 5 damage and also only get 5 revenge.

>>1947438
great. so they want to essentially nerf revenge gain in ganks, unless the gankers have damage buffs. this had better not go through. revenge is already shit because you can be bashed out of punishes, grabbed in-between chain links and be unbalanced. revenge NEEDS super armor. i am sick of getting knocked out of my throws so i cant max punish, and cant cast fight winning feats because i keep getting interrupted.

When I play Cent it's either the most fun I'm ever having or I'm getting curbstomped. Why am I so bad.

>>1946849
>No buffs/nerfs for Virtuosa
Because she's not gonna be in the game anymore right?

>>1946849
>No buffs/nerfs for Virtuosa
cable goes brrrrr

>>1947669
These retarded devs think that popping revenge as conq and having everyone just walk away from you is you "winning" the fight. They want to make 1v2s outright unwinnable no matter how bad the 2 are because that's what's "supposed" to happen when you're outnumbered. I'm sure this will be really fun and Healthy for the Game™

The difference in playing conq or Lawbringer is so fucking vast when I play Pirate or Zhanhu. it's disgusting how left behind those two are.

>>1922331
I think she is super fun to play, I wish her fullblock had some kind of dodge catch though. Whenever you see Khatun go into that fullbock, just dodge and she literally can't do anything.

>>1948349
Conq I understand, but Lawbringer? They kept giving him more shit every patch for a while

>>1948637
You can dodge out of it into an attack, can't you? I know you can cancel it with a dash backwards by just tapping neutral A/X which fucks bashes. Caught a few with that

>>1946707
wow, it's dreadful, just like orochi

>>1948760
its light into bash into light into bash. your heavies are a scam, including ad mortem which doesn't even require enhanced dodges to avoid.