DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>11806965

Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etc
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/GENERAL GUIDE
https://rentry.org/vrbin

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQ
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

== GAMES/RESOURCES ==
DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU

PortaDOOM:
https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
HALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:
https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:
https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqA

Assorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

MIDI COLLECTIONS
https://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.zip
https://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQ
https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009
https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
https://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/

MODDING RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37
https://realm667.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==
THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/

OUR WADS/MODS
https://rentry.org/vrdepot

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE/WAD DATABASE
https://vrdoom.booru.org/
https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/

MULTIPLAYER SERVERS
US West: https://clovr.xyz/
CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
/Vertex Relocation/
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : Boom
RELEASE CANDIDATE 3: https://files.catbox.moe/aoucg0.7z
Some bugs left. Something about Map18?

=== NEWS ===
[6-19] Quake 2 Remaster N64 Jam II Announced(on discord)
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/11806965/#11811558

[6-17] Drake O'Brien Ovational Megawad released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/153776

[6-17] Combustion by Fiendish
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/153768

[6-16] Content released, a 7 level MBF21 episode
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/153754

[6-14] Duke Nukem Advance has a PC port in the works
https://www.moddb.com/mods/duke-nukem-advance-tc

[6-11] Doom 2 Minus Doom released
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/153656

[6-06] Leaked Duke Nukem D-Day prototype build
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/11782748
https://archive.org/details/duke-dday-ps2-2001-06-04

[6-03] Chocolate Quake is a thing that now exists
https://github.com/Henrique194/chocolate-quake

[6-02] DBP73: Narcoleptic Strata is out now!
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4010

[6-02] Showtime v2.0 released
https://cherubcorps.itch.io/showtime

[5-30] Skyboxer, a map-to-skybox tool for Quake has been released
https://moddb.com/games/quake/downloads/skyboxer-a-map-to-skybox-tool-for-quake-10

[5-29] Project Gryphon Beta 1.0 released
https://moddb.com/mods/project-gryphon/news/project-gryphon-beta-10-release

[5-25] Collision Course by Sgt. Shivers
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/153300

[5-09] Apophis by Christopher Lutz
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/152930

[5-09] Doom playable in Majora's Mask
https://thunderstore.io/c/zelda-64-recompiled/p/Dario/Doom_Mod/

[5-05] Doomed Marine released
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/152899

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [MM-DD] date bracket)

Is there a bug with lunar strain dbp or I am missing something? Finishing map 17 just takes me to the same map

>>11814964 (OP)
im no fool

been working on a mod to replace the pistol with a weapon that isn't completely useless. found a pistol start replacement mod with a really good sprite but it was way overpowered, had some bugs, and made the chaingun obsolete, so i completely rewrote the code from scratch. it's not quite ready to post yet because this is the first mod i've made in a decade+ and i'm trying to figure out how to create pistol bullets that do half damage. right now it just consumes 2 ammo per burst and plays a fire sound effect every other shot. it does pretty good burst but its DPS isn't much higher than the regular pistol and it's very ammo inefficient, however it has perfect spread, so it's not completely useless once you have other weapons. i'll post it here when it's done but i'm not sure if i can release it anywhere else without permission of the original author or not

right now it fires a 10 (actually 5) round burst with an erratic pattern. it could be good for deathmatch, if you're a noob, or want to make some ridiculously hard wad a little easier at the beginning.

Whoever created the Pain Elemental is a bad person who should feel bad.
Whoever uses Pain Elementals in their maps is a bad mapper.
Dragonfly is a wonderful, based and redpilled human being for reducing Lost Souls' HP.

>>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<<

Do a UV-Max run of Plutonia map 5 WITH -solo-net enabled (oh, and don't die/respawn)

An example command line would go like
>port.exe -complevel 4 -skill 4 -warp 05 -iwad plutonia.wad -record pl05 -solo-net

Current records can be found here (1 solo-net demo):
https://dsdarchive.com/wads/plutonia?level=Map+05

For those unaware, -solo-net enables multiplayer spawns in single player, sometimes treated as a higher difficulty than UV. Everyone here's already played Plutonia normally, doing typical UV-max runs every time seems kinda boring, and as far as iwad levels go this one is uniquely different/enjoyable with multiplayer spawns, so here we are. The only problems is that it might be too hard for some, you can watch my demo or the one on the archive if you're having trouble. Let me know if I should pick easier stuff next time.

-solo-net also has some weird behavior compared to singleplayer (weapon spawns never disappear, you can respawn after dying) so be aware.

https://files.catbox.moe/bhb149.lmp
(specify -solo-net while playing back demos too)

>>11814965
You fool, the newspost doesn't have RC3 of Vertex Relocation!

>>11815054
What monsters are added to Ghost Town with solonet?

>>11815061
>Q2 in my D2
Kind of makes sense

>>11815083
It's right there at the top of the page.

any lightning/flashlight mods to mix up with hideous destructor?

trying to recreate a FEAR mood

>>11814881
I probably wouldn't try it on a phone, but the most recent release 0.7.4 supposedly improves fps from previous versions. I can't really tell because I've used it on my beefy desktop so how much fps it saves on different hardware could be negligible.

>>11814964 (OP)
I wonder if we will ever see Leonard in one of these images.

>>11815145
i do have a pretty high end phone (galaxy s25 ultra) with a 120hz screen so when i feel like i'll try it out and see if maybe i could do a stable 60

i really don't want to waste money on a desktop until i see the sys requirements for windows 12. rumors going around intel is working on an AI chip for it.

anyway lmaooooooo what i have done. now that i'm getting into zscript i think i should not use this mod and just give all the monster speeds a pass, maybe figure out how to increase their accuracy as well

still wish i could find a good AI mod so the monsters don't do stupid shit like this and just drop down. the one i'm using is decent (enemies alert other enemies to your location like metal gear solid, try to pathfind to you, and don't give up the chase so easily) but could use a lot of improvement

>>11815157
Why don't you just get a 100 buck optiplex and install linux on it? It'll run doom and diablo and emulators all day

>>11815163
it's a long off topic story. i keep getting targeted by hackers so i need modern hardware or i get pwned. i'm really poor so ever since my desktop died forever so i just finance phones. android is more secure than windows and i think windoze might be dying out by 2050. the only thing i can't do on android that i really want to is computer programming so i can make my own video game and run GIMP and a couple other specialized apps like that

at the rate things are going steam is going to be on the android app store, and i just read in the tech news recently while it's not quite ready to 1.0 release, they're working on a windows emulator for android, and yes, it can run steam and vintage steam games. would be nice to get the collection of retro games back

i already have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse and next month i'm gonna get a cheap 1080p120hz gaming monitor and wireless charger, then i need to get a proper keyboard and new mousepad because this one got fucked up trying to clean it. i'll grab my old phone and take a pic of my setup [s4s] says its kinda comfy

>>11815090
Oh, then why does it have the text about Map18 left? That turned out to have already been fixed in RC2.

>Unreal mod "The One"
I'm having trouble processing just how good this was.

>>11815182
Sounds like you're making it work despite your difficulties, keep it up Anon.

the life of a poorfag

could use a new desk too, i don't have anywhere to put my board game since i put my doom setup together

>>11815182
>>11815198
For fucks sake, just get some old thinkpad, anon.
You're overthinking this stuff WAY too much.

>>11815198
>>11815206
Yea i don't think you're getting hacked with Debian stable on an optiplex, Anon

Is there a Doom mod that replaces the Doom rocket launcher with the quake one?

>>11815198
what in the actual fuck

>>11815089
its pretty good
there are only 3 maps tho because I believe to have read this was supposed to be a trilogy or something but only ZAERO1.WAD got released
the maps are very large detailed and complex
the first map has something like 230 something monsters and 10 secrets
it also has messages on screen in style of more modern wads like Final Carnage like when you try to open something that you cant open yet it says in Q2 style:
>this opens elsewhere

>>11815198
At least you're not in a boiler room.

>>11815186
Less tris than 2B's ass yet more soul than most modern games put together.

>>11815209
i don't want to talk about it. you have no idea who i pissed off. after my router got hacked a month later i got sim swapped and lost my google account and had my password manager scrambled, had to change all my cards and bank account number back in march because my router got hacked and they got spyware on my old phone via that. i did get my google account back after a lot of phone calls and got a new phone for free as a result of all the inconveniences

i'm happy with what i got and like i said, the things i can't get on android are game dev programs and art/sound stuff. money's really tight in 2025 and when i went window shopping for desktops. the floor on what i need to spend is $500 just for the desktop. if i wanted something for gaming, i'd rather get a steam deck where i'm at

YOU might be able to get away with some old ass hardware, but i need to take extra precautions sadly

don't want to derail this thread into cyberwar shit any further, thanks, i'm gonna go shitpost on red boards and play some retroarch

GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKER, IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!

>>11815227
Alright, i respect it. Good luck Anon. There's something to be said for laying low, thoughbeit.

>>11815230
see >>11815005

i'm going to try to track down the original author of the mod and see if i can get his permission to release this thing, because there isn't a single decent improved pistol i could find on google, though i admit i didn't look too hard

my attempts to create a new bullet class were crashing even thoiugh i pulled the code from zdoom's gitlab and i'm not sure why

>>11815236
hey man, i got my 2 year upgrade early and a free phone line for a year out of the deal. whoever hacked me did me a huge fucking favor in the long run after all the chargebacks were filed

>>11815053
I need more Pain Elementals, and for them to work the way they do in Doom 64.

>>11815198
>he has a chair
fucking richfags

>>11815215
That was the Underhalls, this is Command Control

>>11815216
>grapple hook crossbow for more exploration
>day/night/weather cycles throughout all the outdoor maps with some minor hub elements
>labyrinthine underground ruins with crazy shit including an ancient magic Nali airship
It goes on. Still real dumbfounded by it all.

I have a question regarding secrets in the automap of GZDoom
why sometimes when I discover a secret area and the secret revealed message is played (lets say its a corridor that leads away from the room I was in into a new room containing whatever) and I open the automap it doesnt show anything?
I mean nothing past the room I was in before past the point of entering the secret sector
nothing shows no walls no nothing
yet for other secret sectors structured pretty much the same in the same or other map wads it does show properly the secret sector discovered in pink/magenta outlines?
I have the setting in options/automap to show secret sectors only when discovered yet why doesnt it behave the same with all of them?
is it a GZDoom setting, a feature (read "bug") or is it defined by the map wad/other mods I have installed?
Im the guy playing ZAERO1.WAD and out of 10 secrets I found only 7 and missed one because it was a one time elevator that I fell off from so technically 8
is there a way without cheating to be sure where secrets are?
I know that using the default custom automap colors in GZDoom the lines that you cross that are interactable (including the visible switches) are marked in white (like when you cross a line when going down a corridor a wall opens up somewhere which might be a secret or simply open up monster closets or something
the secrets where you need to shoot a wall texture with a hitscan weapon to do something is it possible to see them in the automap?
in short how the fuck do you get 100% secrets when playing blind?
I was watching last night the playthough of decino playing AUGER ZENITH and after he clears a map if he cant find all secrets after a while he presses something on his automap and he immediately sees them
how the fuck does he do it?
is it dependant on the source port he used?
I only ever used GZDoom since forever so idk about the others

>>11815269
I'm worried his little legs are gonna get stuck in those grates.

>>11815198
let me guess, russian?

>>11815278
>his
What?

>>11815269
what wad?

>>11815281
Wait, you didn't know? C-kid's a boy.

>>11815286
WHAT?

>>11815270
There are ways to hide stuff on the auto map, whether it's walls or secrets, even from the computer map pickup. I guess the map maker decided to do that, for some reason.

>>11815230
Haven't mapped for weeks and now I'm back in business making this neat crane that actually works in spins around. Not the final version but conceptually it works and I'm happy it does

>>11815293
He's just a young boy.

>>11815061
whad wad?

>>11815304
I life is a lie.

>>11815230
I'm a bit bored and need a change of pace, so I decided I'm putting a secret 1024-ish map into a .wad, as a secret.

>>11815304
Only a lad.

>>11815264
Thought that was the last level of Dark Messiah for a minute.

>>11815297
>There are ways to hide stuff on the auto map, whether it's walls or secrets, even from the computer map pickup
then Im screwed
so if they want they can hide the white lines that are interactable meaning something happens when you cross them?
then how the fuck do you get 100% secrets blind on an enormous map with 10+ secrets?
is there a 100% foolproof way that works in GZDoom to see them if you give up and really cant find them?

>>11815303
I love your use of stock Duke3D textures and shit for stuff like this, it's creative. Kinda brings to mind some of the shit Cyriak did for Going Down, again, using only stock Doom 2 textures.

>>11815270
>I was watching last night the playthough of decino playing AUGER ZENITH and after he clears a map if he cant find all secrets after a while he presses something on his automap and he immediately sees them
>how the fuck does he do it?
IDDT? Full map cheat

>>11815278
>>11815286
>>11815281
>his (male [female] (girl [2d drawing])])

>>11815319
Thanks, I'm still noob at picking good textures. This crane 'booth' took me few days to find a good shape and textures for it. Thats the plan to use only vanilla duke, similar to how Death Wish for Blood does it, except Blood is much richer in textures and scripts. I however got bigger map limits to work with, since I don't intend this pack to be DOS compatible

>>11815318
There's iddt to show the map, usually works even on hidden walls and areas, but won't show secrets that are bound to items. You can also use the "show trigger lines on map" in options, but it's not 100% reliable to show everything.

>>11815323
no I think it was more like something about his sourceport he presses one single key when in his automap screen and he can see everything including all sprites placed on the map (decorations, alive and dead enemies etc) as well as secrets and he instantly spots them
>IDDT
I never cheated in Doom games so I dont even know even the basic cheats
what does that do show EVERYTHING or only what the computer area map can see?
because a guy just said there are ways to hide stuff even from the computer map
maybe his source port has an equivalent of that cheat binded as a keybind that you can press while in automap mode idk as I said idk jack shit about other ports than GZDoom

>>11815239
This comes to mind.
>https://lumenoth.itch.io/class-act

>Choose between THREE different starting weapons:
>Machine Pistol - High fire rate, holds 24 bullets. Altfire to reload.
>Scatter Pistol - Shoots a barrage of flak shells with a limited range.
>Flare Gun - Fires high-damage bouncing grenades. Uses 1 rocket ammo per 2 flares.

>>11815334
IDDT can show everything, even hidden stuff. It can also show items and enemies if you got that option enabled in gzd

>>11815328
>You can also use the "show trigger lines on map" in options
those are the lines I mentioned before? the lines that when crossed make something happen?
I already see them in white in the default custom colors of the GZDoom automap
> but won't show secrets that are bound to items
Items can be bound as secrets and not the floor they are standing on?
also there are many other automap settings under options like show single walls and double sector walls but idk any of this shit as Im not a mapper

>>11815239
>because there isn't a single decent improved pistol i could find on google, though i admit i didn't look too hard

You absolutely didn't look that hard. Final Doomer, DAKKA, Legendoom, DRLA, Lt. Typhon, Pvt. Stone, and Project Babel all have way better pistols, and Project Babel lets you choose between three starting weapons. There's a shitload of other mods out there that make the pistol not worthless.

>>11815336
what if the map maker decided to hard disable cheats?
is it even possible to do it from a wad?
I remember an option called
>Allow cheats for all games
and I think its set to yes
how do I use this cheat code in GZDoom do I use it in the console?
what about the console commands like
>give backpack
>give weapons
>give ammo
are those cheats but different?

>>11815269

>>11815335
looks like the creator ripped off the mod i used as a base for the machine pistol actually and probably fixed the bugs and added a reload. i don't like the reload, it feels non-doomy
>>11815340
i was looking for something that changed the pistol ONLY. i just looked at half your mods (already looked at Babel) and they're all comprehensive weapon ovehauls, i just wanted something to replace the pistol only and nothing else

>>11815340
the pistol in Supercharge is my favourite
close enough to vanilla but it can handle a lot of shit its this one seen here
>>11815061
there is a variant of Supercharge with enemies cut out
I admit I did increase the magazine capacity from 10 to 15 and removed the spread manually tho but even default its still very good

>>11815341
Man you really are farming newfag points eh?
>what if the map maker decided to hard disable cheats?
Giga rare occurrence
>how do I use this cheat code in GZDoom do I use it in the console?
Open automap and just type it, do it once and you get full map, do it second time and you will see items, do it third time to disable the cheat.
>what about the console commands like
>>give backpack
>>give weapons
>>give ammo
>are those cheats but different
Console commands? Never bothered thinking about the difference

Perfect hatred made me realize I've been playing all of doom without sprinting

>>11815239
Wait why the fuck are you trying to make a whole new bullet class? If you want the gun to deal less damage you just adjust the damage value with A_FireBullets. Unless you're wanting to give it a different visual when hitting monsters and walls, there's no need to create a new class.

Also from the way you describe it up here >>11815005 you've actually made something worse than the vanilla pistol. The perfect spread is completely irrelevant once you get your hands on a chaingun as you can tap the fire button and fire two perfectly accurate shots.

>>11815351
what if I just never fucking cheated in Doom and I have no idea how they work?
I know some of them are legendary but I never used them I have no idea where to input them either
and I have been playing Doom games since the first year of release of the old ZDoom

>>11815083
>What monsters are added to Ghost Town with solonet?
Why don't you play it and find out?
A cyberdemon, most notably, but you also get the bfg straight away. On single player there's no bfg at all

>>11815357
A) i want it to be useless when you get a chaingun
2) this one shoots 5 at the moment, and i'm pretty sure it does more burst damage than chaingun tapping, but less damage over time
III) i'm new to zscript, so thanks for your help/flaming me. i was trying to replace A_FirePistol and i was doing something wrong. i'll look into this function the next time i feel like doing some scripting.

>>11815368
I ain't flaming you, though don't you think Zscript is a little overkill for something like this? Unless of course you're wanting to specifically practice with Zscript, then that's a fair reason.
A_FireBullets is a DECORATE function, though I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same in Zscript.

Also it's a little disappointing that you want this thing to become useless once you get a chaingun, to me half the fun of making new weapons is to keep everything worthwhile even after getting a full set. Only swapping out the pistol while keeping the rest of the vanilla arsenal intact is admittedly kinda tough.

>>11815230
Started on (hopefully) a set of small oldschool style maps. Vanilla compat. Not shovelware but more "early maps of a classic 90s megawad" style.

I get this bizarre form of mapping block where I can shit out a nice MAP01 in 2-4 hours and then really struggle to do any others. MAP02 is taking some kind of shape though so there is still hope.

>>11815372
the inspiration for the mod was that i was using a combination of 10.5x spawn multi, ultimate custom doom, and i_timescale to make e1m1 fucking impossible, and i kept dying over and over trying to get the green armor and a shotgun. i got sick of i_timescale first and 10.5x second, and at the moment all my monsters have 3x movement speed and the quad damage - it's the only way to frag

i'm a gaming masochist, but being knocked down to 34 hp or less after the first encounter unless i get some godly strafes in or lucky monster rng was too much

when i feel like programming again i'm going to give all the monsters movement speed and animation frames a pass to replicate the madness of using i_timescale without all the weird quirks it was causing

when i used to play zdoom when it was shiny and new i would play with custom weapons all the time but now i just want to make the vanilla campaign fuck me up the ass

>>11815054
kinda sloppy but here you go
https://files.catbox.moe/x51qfb.zip
a lot of running around trying to remember the map lol. I thought the two extra arch-viles at the beginning were more annoying than the cyberdemon, at least the cyber infights

>>11815089
You know what? Nerfing the railgun in KexQ2 actually makes the Zaero sniper rifle a much more viable weapon that now fully justifies it wasting 3 slugs per shot for only 300HP - even in a single player playthru.

>>11815230
Started making an OHM reskin with Eriance guns.

>>11814964 (OP)
any ideas for what the next /vr/ project might be? have we ever done a doom 1-based wad? maybe that's just me trying to lower the bar so i won't feel so embarrassed to submit something

>>11815592
>have we ever done a doom 1-based wad?
unrattled

>>11815230
I'm close to releasing this glowing texture pack I've put together for KnightmareQ2. I went through yesterday to look for more things I might be missing, and the first few folders are still quite messy.
>>11815530
Funny: That's KMQ2 so not only is there no remaster support, that screenshot is using the 25th Unit mod which also has no Zaero weapon support.
If anything "had to be done" about Q2's railgun, I'd change either the amount of slug pickups that exist in the campaign or get rid of its "unaware" damage bonus.

>>11815227
You could still get a cheapo desktop with linux on it and just never connect it to the internet. Just copy everything over via hardware.

>>11815592
SHREKKR 2: Assault on Romero's Swamp

>Come get some! Mmm

>>11815592
Someone on a previous thread suggested another X minutes of /vr/.

>>11815592
Has there ever been a wad where each level is based on a different board? I know there's already pol.wad.

>>11815592
Have we ever done a 1024 set?

>>11815186
Looks pretty.

>>11815279
I'm going to guess American, North East. Ohio, Pennsylvania maybe.

>>11815227
Just don't connect your Thinkpad to the Internet.

An anon mentioned looking for space ship type wads to use with Siren and I don't have that, but I do sometimes use a star wars texture pack with certain wads or Oblige/Obsidian wads when I want more of a sci-fi feel to the maps.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/113928-rogue-rebel-tc-release/?tab=comments#comment-2119485

It's a TC, but you can download just the textures to throw over wads that use vanilla textures.

>>11815614
REKKR: The Blade of Romero.
It's a daikatana/rekkr crossover.

It's all robot frogs and mosquitos.

>>11815737
I can't leave without my buddy Blaz.

>>11815198
are you sleeping on the floor too?

bros is this true?

>>11815686
That's what pol.wad was made for originally. But it never came about.

>>11815752
Basementbro? Is that you?

reading about ZScript and the monster data, exact values for hp and movement speed and stuff. have some ideas on how to improve the monster AI by seeing if there's some way the enemies can move and shoot at the same time, and it seems there's a flag in ZDoom called CHF_FASTCHASE which will cause them to circle strafe you, gonna experiment with it later

you know how the green armor is shit? feel like doing something about that. i experimented by just changing it around to work like an armor bonus but it's too powerful now, so i'm thinking of moderating it a little bit and making it so that first it gives you +50, then if < 100 = 100. i can play around. also considered just making one tier of armor so there's never downside to picking up green

my playthrough is currently aborted because once i started dealing with demons the absurd move speed multiplier as you can see in >>11815157 is causing their pathfinding to glitch out like crazy. sometimes they just run in triangles around you and never actually attack

this shit is basically my midlife crisis. i played doom a lot when i was smol boi and then binged on it really hard when the game was open sourced after zdoom was created. i've beaten doom 1 on UV, decided i didn't feel like doing doom 2 and rather do UV Fast instead, and after beating ep 1 on UV Fast i felt like modding doom 1 to skullfuck you without using nightmare mode respawns

it's giving me something to do. i haven't made mods for anything in a really long time. reading a random ass gaming news article that doom got a patch drove my interest and i've been having a good time picking this game back up. main adjustment is getting used to bluetooth lag (which isn't as bad as expected) and old man reflexes (i'm starting to wonder if i need to increase my sensitivity to compesnate, i sweep my mouse pretty far and been having trouble with flickshots)

>>11815054
NOOOOO FUCK YOU CASALI I can't punch fucking barons WITHOUT BERSERK
it's such a humiliation for me
failed run: https://files.catbox.moe/s82u37.lmp

Just finished scythe 2(UV) and HOLY FUCK the last few maps are miserable, it's like getting your teeth pulled out, the new bullshit enemies make it worse

>>11815763
Quit posting that webm you complete dweebenheimer.

Quake 2 is my jam

You know if that dork is gonna post that stupid webm again, I'm gonna post something that's equally funny and painful to watch.

White Night Concerto

>>11815787
if only you had a BFG...

>>11815198
>he has carpet to keep his feet warm while he games

Check out this fat cat gaming in his mansion.

>>11815303
finished shading this bad boy

>>11815786
holy fuck what a retard, is this civvie playing?

>>11815816
No, lol.

https://youtu.be/VrK2D68KHxo?si=auk0XUbcIZ9pPuHT&t=1043

>>11815816
sensitivity 85239i83529846389768

Is Voxel Doom soi?

>>11815827
What the fuck does that even mean?

>>11815714
Definitely some of the prettiest. A lot of those trees are also animated.
It's only a cautious recommendation for anyone easily intimidated by how big and open-ended these levels can get, it's easily recommended for anyone else. I'm glad I saved it for later.
>>11815786
A cautionary webm for people that A. wander/explore with the super shotgun and B. instinctively shoot before thinking.

>>11815819
Oof. Two decades of rust, I guess.

>>11815841
no i can tell what's going on from speccing so much quake. his sens is so stupid it takes like 1-3 inches to spin his mouse in a 360 circle. most good players use something in a range of 6-18 (the bigger a railwhore you are, the lower your sens, typically)

he could also be playing with a controller set way too fast

>>11815819
lmao

>>11815819
That's Dario's own footage? Then what the fuck was the angle of that faggot crying about Plutonia a while back and posting that?

>>11815786
There's something fucky here, it's like the mouse input is on a delay.

Its finally over.

>>11815874
post bunny

>>11815874
How did E4M1 treat you?

>>11815875
RIP Daisy
>>11815876
First two levels and E4M6 were a real bad time.

>>11815778
>>11815054
ok, a successful one
https://files.catbox.moe/lpc1zn.lmp

>>11815828
Do serious Doomfags want no part of such modern fuckery?

>>11815916
Are you desperate for our approval?

>>11815592
i had an idea about using unreachable archviles endlessly resurrecting hitscanners and making the player grind for their ammo, would that be too gimmicky for a project not centered around weird or unusual maps?

>>11815923
More like I want you to out yourselves as hardcore snobs.

>>11815926
So in your attempts to do this you've used some dumb buzzwords and you're seeking a fight in the hopes of exposing this autistic general as being elitist snobs?
You could have been playing Doom with the voxel addon instead, you doofus.

Going Down or Going Down: Turbo?

>>11815946
You're making me miserable, stop.

>>11815926
I'll give you my opinion on it: I personally don't like the voxel models because their motion looks a bit uncanny to me, so I don't like that.

However, just looking at them in stills, I appreciate the work that has gone into converting and essentially re-crafting the original sprites into three-dimensional objects with volume, that was REALLY not a trivial effort, the detailing and consistency is impressive.
Considering that many of these characters were originally digitzed physical models, it's all the more impressive that they look as good as they do. I always expected that voxel monsters wouldn't ever look much better than pic related, but I was proven DEAD WRONG.

You do you, the only thing I'll really complain about is smudge filters, because it looks really ugly.

>>11815968
You made yourself miserable.

Gave Combustion a shot. Immediate inclusion for one of my favorite wads for the year. Great texturing and visual tricks while still feeling very DOOM-y, fantastic pacing, not exactly hard but definitely high energy, great map layouts, works well in co-op, and while I want more, the 5 maps are great for those that want a brief shot of DOOM to play.

>>11816003
Bimbo doom

>>11815278
A. Kid is stronger.

>>11815772
>Basementbro
QRD?

>>11816085
There's an anon who posted in these threads who was stealth living in the basement below the place he worked for as a janitor, dude posted pictures and everything of his setup.

>>11815774
hey i'm back, the general principle seems to work. there's a function called A_Wander which doesn't trigger attacks and by using an increment i can make fire instantly, start wandering for a bit, then resume firing. it kinda looks like an FPS player strafing like crazy. once i get the firing animation frames programmed into the wander block i'll post clip of e1m1

me reacting to my script actually working:

https://youtu.be/8DajVKAkL50?t=72

LOL i gotta start recording while i play against these dudes because i was just testing what i got so far and a shotgun guy decided to dash right behind me and 360 no scope me like it's deathmatch completely fuckin outplayed lmao

>>11815926
Here, I'll give my opinion:
I like it. I don't always play with it, but it's really cool. The only thing I wish it had is a means to render the voxels as orthogonal sprites. Like how the build engine can do.

NEW BEAR CHALLENGE:
>You are placed in a cage with a bear that has been genetically modified to become aggressive if you cannot provide a reasonable, logical argument for why the DOOM Chaingun isn't a straight upgrade to the Pistol
>You cannot use progression, lack of skill, or muh "it's okay because it's a starting weapon" as arguments, or the bear-keepers will first force you to listen to Fly by Sugar Ray on repeat through a low quality Sony boombox from 1997 for 26 hours straight before commanding the bear to violently sodomize you in addition to eating you alive
>If you succeed, you will be released from the cage and given a Beretta 92FS with 20 bullets, $10,000 in Walmart giftcards, and a 5 hour deep tissue massage from a slightly attractive Korean woman with strong hands
You chodes passed the test Nailgun test, but good luck not being lunch for a GMO bear this time.

>>11815791
til the moxie runs out, then they gotta settle for some bang's old tyme

>>11815952
What's the difference?

>>11816236
you're their all time best seller

>>11816209
If you're playing a console port (other than Jaguar or XBLA) where you can't select individual weapons with keys and instead have to cycle through each weapon, then cycling backwards or forwards to the pistol might be faster based om what you have equipped/in your inventory. I used to do this once in awhile in DOOM 64 and PSX when I'd run across one or two zombie soldiers, since they die in a couple hits and shells are somewhat more valuable in those games.

>>11816209
The Chaingun fires in two-shot volleys while the Pistol fires only one shot at a time, meaning the pistol is essential for high-level RNG manipulation that is literally impossible with the Chaingun. This also has the added bonus of extremely economical triggering of shoot switches and enemy aggression.

Deep Fried Hexen.

>>11816209
I enjoy the specificity of these scenarios.

>>11816252
You have your fist for that. The pistol's only purpose is hitting Sigil switches.

>>11816259
The Fist has significantly worse frame data for manips, namely when whiffing. It's basically unsuable.

>>11816209
i perform badass executions with one pistol shot on enemies that i've weakened enough with superior weapons. usually this is when a shotgun blast fails to kill an imp, but i've also had a cyberdemon survive a BFG 2-shot, had a hunch he was low enough, and finished him off with a single pistol shot.
the benefit to this is that it looks cool and the cyberdemon looks like such a NERD getting killed by the pistol

>>11816236
I don't know that's why I'm asking.

>>11815592
How about deathmatch wad for strife?

>>11815054
Gave this one try, but solonet wasn't fun, I ain't got what it takes for odds like these. The balance, obviously, is for more players, and probably carrying stuff over from the previous levels.
https://files.catbox.moe/ir642z.lmp

The added Archies at the start make me bunker up in the starting room, because what the fuck do I have to even fight them with? Eventually killing one and making my way to the courtyard, the Cyber doesn't make it very easy, which IS the point, but after just partial anus enlargement I manage to get a foothold in one of the stairs, and I kind of just desperately bunker down there.
I don't make much better progress because I'm so undergunned, by the end there I go for a Hail Mary for that teleporter, because I remember it goes to that Megasphere, but I choke and back up, instead of running forward, and so my ass gets fully dilated.

3/10, it's Ghost Town except solonet makes it not really fun. The Ancient Aliens map had a harsh ending, but overall it mostly gave me the firepower I actually needed to fight (because I wasn't expected to be multiple people).
I'll lift some weights for dying.

>>11815367
The BFG wasn't all that helpful.

>>11815516
The added Archies really are a lot worse than the Cybie. Also hating not getting that ammo from the duplicate placed weapons.

>>11815230
A brief video overview of my flamethrower for Malice: https://files.catbox.moe/u80fju.mp4

Was there ever a source port/decomp of Zero Hour? I see there's something that hasn't been touched in 8 months and some forum posts talking about the fact that the guy who was making it doesn't want to release it due to legal fears.

>>11815516
>spend entire run saving cells
>bfg random door at the end
I laughed, good run.

>>11815912
Your first run is like a sysyphisian/tantalusian tragedy. I'm surprised you used the plasma when you were short on ammo the other time, but I guess it worked out.

>>11816342
You have more patience for doom than I do for, perhaps anything. There are some people who actually balance their multiplayer spawns as a kind of UV+, but I doubt Milo was thinking about it. I just liked how different it is compared to the singleplayer experience. I also think I got lucky with the archviles, who just ignored me until I was ready to rocket them.

And in case anyone's wondering, I watch all the demo's that get posted but I might not reply to everyone. Sometimes I just don't have anything to say, and I know some people get annoyed by mass replies. Something to keep in mind if anyone thinks they've escaped my judgement.

right now i'm calling it "the zoomguy"

any better ideas for a name?

>>11815592
a plutonia wad

>>11815976
shake it, buster

>>11816358
The smoke and particles on this thing are excellent

>>11815952
I thought a remaster subtitled "Turbo" would mean it's harder, but he actually went and made the levels significantly easier on UV, which makes me sad

>>11815592
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/53034-progressive-fiction-hadephobia-now-on-idgames/
Hadephobia homage, a collectively written story driven wad, but with grounded ambitions

>>11815952
I think there are some cool visual gimmicks present in Turbo that make it worth checking out (mirrors in bathrooms, rotating warning lights), but I still prefer the original overall. It wasn't too hard to begin with imo, some of the fights just don't function the same when you remove so many enemies, and some fights just don't even exist anymore. I kinda wish Mouldy directed his efforts towards making something wholly new instead.

>>11815952
Turbo drags on a lot less than the original, which is most of the point of him doing it.

>>11815054
>>11815912
Improved my time a bit
https://files.catbox.moe/3bdvoj.lmp

>>11816371
that could be interesting, would we do maps in the style of plutonia or just use the wad's resources? could be ripe for another "x units of /vr/" since plutonia's style lends itself to tiny maps anwyay

enviroment desine is my pashion................................

>>11816317
>>11816371
I can't even tell if these replies are being ironic.

I don't think we can do another "x minutes of /vr/" because after a point it's no longer really speedmapping, 400 minutes was already pushing it. I think another space restriction would be better.

>>11816485
I suggested a 1024

>>11815592
a sunlust tribute called wanderlust

>>11816362
>>bfg random door at the end
lol I forgot about the switch

>>11816485
one idea i suggested once was having a mapset based around "thing" limitations - maybe set the limit at something that seems lofty, like 128 or 256, but a "thing" isn't just a monster - it's all weapons, ammo, health pickups, decorations, AND monsters too, so it'd be easy to run out if you're not thinking carefully. i think there'd be potential for a lot of variety which is crucial for these kind of community things

>>11816483
what weapons mod is that?
>>11816364
UAC janitors sure cleaned the floor well before the demon invasion

to make the Assault Rifle in my mod to be dropped by the Zombieman (the basic ones that are seen carrying an assault rifle) but the Chaingunners and fixed CHaingun spawns placed by the map to spawn my modded Chaingun
how the fuck do you achieve this?
Trailblazer does it, it lets you choose what replaces what and what enemy drops what without defining new monster types
I tried opening Trailblazer in SLADE but I cant understand shit its all scripted
my idea was to make my custom Assault Rifle to be dropped by Zombieman by replacing the half ammo Clip they drop
but idk nor I can find info on how the half ammo Clip they drop is defined as an actor
is there just one type of Clip and the amount of ammo it gives you is hardcoded depending if it was placed or dropped by the Zombiemen and also based on the difficulty level?
I dont wanna define new Zombiemen or touch monsters in any way to keep max compatibility with custom map defined monsters or monster replacement mods
this is the page about the ammo Clip from the ZDoom wiki:
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Classes:Clip
it doesnt say anything how the map placed Clip is different from the Zombie dropped half Clip
Im new to modding please someone help me
also I dont know shit about ZScript all I can do is some Decorate
random screenshot to attract your attention

>>11815601
That was just a pure hypothesis on my part, untill the Quake2 remaster gets a proper mod support for the most popular/famous classic Q2 mods and unofficial addons at least.
I mean a difference betwen 375dmg & 300dmg vs. 450dmg & 300dmg is more than tolerable as it's already more than enough to kill any other player in MP without both max health and 2 red armours on them.

>>11816630
Possibly making the rifle pickup item a custominventory that replaces the clip, gives you the actual rifle weapon on pickup, along with a check in the spawn state for that weapon that moves to another state to spawn the ammo instead if you already have it.

New Chaingun is easy.

actor NewChaingun replaces Chaingun

>is there just one type of Clip and the amount of ammo it gives you is hardcoded depending if it was placed or dropped by the Zombiemen and also based on the difficulty level?

Pretty much.

>>11816639
I read a thread yesterday where there was a Nightdive employer and coder that contributed to the work of the last Q2 Remaster explaining why its hard to port stuff like Zaero and other unofficial expansions into the Q2 Remaster is because they use custom DLLs
for example I read on the Q2 Fandom Wiki page that Zaero is compatible with some modern source ports because they support the custom DLL Zaero needs but all the other unofficial mission packs are only compatible with the 1995 original edition of Quake 2 they were made for because the custom DLL they use is based on the original one something or other
to 'port' them to the Remaster you have to redo them from scratch
one example of this is the remaster (more of a Remake) of Q2 PSX
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-ii-psx/downloads/quake-ii-psx-10
Q2 PSX for KexQ2 has been redone from scratch using the DLLs KexQ2 uses
Im not a software engineer nor a coder this is all I could understand
this is the thread I was talking about before:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/139019-quake-ii-remastered/?page=28
read the first reply at page 28 in the link and the following 3 pages of the thread
I guess playing custom unofficial mission packs from original Q2 era in the remaster is not as easy as playing old Doom WADs in the recent Doom+Doom2 Kex remaster
its because the engine of the original game is fundamentally different and Q2 engine makes use of DLLs made especially for the OS and hardware the original game was installed on:
> (you'll usually remember them as gamex86.dll)

>>11816653
I have no idea how to do that
I opened Trailblazer and looked around but its way too advanced coding for me
I didnt go to IT school all I can do is edit some basic DECORATE code here and there but stuff this advanced is beyond my understanding
I opened Trailblazer and found the Chaingun replacement code under ZScript/Spawners
it begins like a normal replacer
>class Chaingun_SpawnerMain : actor replaces Chaingun
but then it goes all weird
there are 4 types of things it can spawn based on the CVAR you defined in the mod options
and the 4th one goes:
>TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIf(bDROPPED == true, "LeadspitOnly");
I tried searching bDROPPED in ZDoom wiki and got to a bunch of pages I cant understand anything from
I give up

>>11816630
What mods are in that screenshot?

>>11816673
P sure that's just Project Brutality.

>>11816660
actor AssaultRiflePickup : CustomInventory replaces Clip
{
States
{
Spawn:
TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("AssaultRifle", 1, "SpawnAmmo")
xxxx x 0 //rifle sprite goes here
Stop //or Loop depending on the above
Pickup:
TNT1 A 0 A_GiveInventory("AssaultRifle")
Stop
SpawnAmmo:
TNT1 A 0 A_SpawnItemEx("RifleMagazine")
Stop
}
}

Another option.

Actor AssaultRifleSpawner : CustomInventory replaces Clip
{
+LOOKALLAROUND
States
{
Spawn:
TNT1 A 1 A_Look
Loop
See:
Spawner1:
TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInTargetInventory("AssaultRifle",1,"Spawner2")
TNT1 A 0 A_SpawnItem("AssaultRifle")
TNT1 A 1 A_NoBlocking
Stop
Spawner2:
TNT1 A 0 A_SpawnItem("RifleMagazine")
TNT1 A 1 A_NoBlocking
Stop
}
}

Abandon Trailblazer as a reference. ZScript is wizardry, and if you're only replacing one chaingun with another chaingun you don't need any of that.

live through doom is a shit tier mod that cant even get menu scaling right and makes the game stupid as fuck to play

>>11815005
>it's another "retard is too retarded for the pistol and makes something that isn't only not better, but also actually pretty shitty" episode

>>11816720
there's nothing wrong with the pistol in the base game, but it wasn't working out too well when the shotgun guys could pop you for 60 damage, i'm not retarded, more insane

>>11816725
Playing Doom 64 and 2048 Units of /vr/ again made me appreciate the pistol firing a little bit faster.

>>11815054
Successful attempt:
https://files.catbox.moe/a4vf4s.lmp
Kind of slow at the end because I had to go find shells multiple times to deal with all the extra barons.

I was actually going to suggest plutonia map 06 on nightmare, but then decided against it because on replay it gave me a lot more trouble than expected.

>>11816738
>Cokeodemon

>>11816656
>because they use custom DLLs
So it's KMQ2 all over again then?
Serves them right for not implemmenting any of the Lazarus features that Paril briefly tinkered with all the way back when PlanetQuake was still '"working"' on its final breaths around 2011.
>Q2 PSX for KexQ2 has been redone from scratch using the DLLs KexQ2 uses
Somehow I totally forgot that the PSX Quake2 campaign wasn't something the KexQ2 remaster delivered via an update but a custom mod created by fans, probably because I still don't have a PC that can run Win10 with a reasonable framerate. . .

so scripters, help a noob out

so A_FaceTarget controls the angles hitscanners use to attack? so by going:

SPOS F 0 A_FaceTarget;
SPOS F 0 BRIGHT A_SposAttackUseAtkSound;

now they aim directly at the target? then, in order to give them xaero aim, i would need to edit the RNG in A_SposAttackUseAtkSound? i'm going to try to design some kind of system where it has no difficulty hitting just holding down AW like a drooling retard, but if you're moving erratically, decreases the chances you get hit

going to finish modding up the monsters in e1 and do some negative omega testing. i'm considering removing RNG from the damage sytem, but i've been reading apparently carmack uses pRNG that doesn't quite euqal average random chance for some reason, so i need to figure out where to set it on the "get fucked" side

>>11816738
When did Adam Sessler become a meatball?

i like lauching hexen on dosbox, then playing 10 minutes and then quitting without saving
then do it again in like a week

>>11816758
that's me playing retroarch and SMT lately

Happy birthday Quake!

>>11816767
ooo

when i take a shower you filthy need i'll throw my quake shirt on

literally the only good thing to come out quake champions, and i'm real careful with it, because once it goes, i'm not going be able to get a new one

my brother was smart enough to get me a large instead of a medium when he gave it to me because i'm a fatass now

I think I got the hang of making flash highlights, this looks pretty sweet desu.

>>11815230

>>11816572
brutal pack.
it's a more modest brutal fork with a decently smooth gameplay flow. kinda reminds me of how people here used to describe johnny doom, but with an et*rnal flare to it.
though i feel like its balancing starts to limp when it comes to fights focused on heavier enemies, since most of them are more mobile, UV buffs enemy stats, and half of ammo pickups are less valuable.
unless it's just one of those mods that is tested by people with enough caffeine in their system to kill a horse.
or i'm just bad or something.

/vr/os is my gzdoom crispy enough

>>11816252
>switch shooting economy
Yeah this is the answer.

>>11816874
Nice. You take that on a real A600?

>>11816767
What's the big Quake news right now?

>>11816874
It could be crispier...

>>11816874
more like crunchy

>>11816874
Needs the semen meter.

>>11816874
Not crispy enough
I can still tell what map this is

Doomguy boiling in a pot of shit.

>>11816775
Sick muzzleflash.

>>11816775
I like how the barrel also light up. maybe give the hands some highlights as well?

>>11816371
yeah! and to keep up the "of /vr/" naming scheme, you could call it 94 protons of /vr/ because that's how many protons there are in a plutonium atom. i'm surprised nobody's thought of this before, should be a nice, quick project to do

>>11816998
that's mud

>>11815592
a second project managed by cockblock

>>11815592
Maybe you guys should consider trying to make something that's good

>>11817053
maybe it shouldn't take over a year to finish either

>>11815592
a thief expansion

>>11815592
Quake CTF maps

>>11817047
It could be anything as long as it's not managed by that autistic faggot.

>>11816775
Really good overall, but consider adding some shine from the flash to the hands too.

>>11817059
and the protagonist is a girlboss with a sidecut and a HUGE dick

>>11815592
how about making another 94 protons of /vr/, for real this time

>>11817079
Why *another* one? Just gather all the maps people have already made and release them.
This really should have been done by now.

>>11817058
That's why projects with limitations are fun imo.

>>11815592
Fuck wads. Think bigger. Your own source port. Fork gzdoom, call it vrgzdoom(/vr/'s "Graf's zdoom"). Instead of being a limit removing port it will be a limit restoring port. The goal is to take gzdoom and make it as close to the original doom engine without just deleting all the extra stuff.

>>11817080
so it's already finished?

>>11816998
where shitguy boiling in a pot of doom.jpg?

>>11815596
time for unrattled 2 then
>>11817090
different anon, but if the project lead is out of the picture it may as well be. could just polish up the public beta build and release that as an RC on doomworld

>>11815227
Wut. Just setup a Linux Mint desktop PC without Internet and you're set.

The phone setup has got to be the goofiest fucking thing I have seen in years.

Bro just go on Facebook Marketplace and grab some used PC and you're set.

We're talking about Doom engine games my man. These can run on a fucking potato.

Can someone share their gamma/brightness/contrast numbers?

Trying to mimic Doom 3's lighting with DarkDoomz.

>>11817125
Depends on which lighting mode you're using. I usually have my contrast turned up to 1.08 or so just to dark shadows a bit more.

>Doom 2 iwad
>1024 or 2048 unit map size
>MBF21, but only for mapping reasons and UMAPINFO, no fancy DeHacked stuff
>NM Corp 1 & 2 Texture pack
>30 days to make and submit your level

Thoughts? Better suggestion for textures to use for flavor?

gonna fill each block with buildings/ruins

>>11816874
Crusty Ass Doom

>>11815592
There has been few suggestions in past months, like
>vr!zone
>our houses or /vr/'s houses
>500 minutes of /vr/
>quake 2 upstart mapping project
I'd like to see /vr/'s Duke3d project sometime, but I have no time to lead a project right now. I will contribute though, to any kind of project.

>>11816483
GZDoom was a fucking mistake.

>>11817221
>>our houses

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET!

>>11817186
Never made a single map, can I participate?

>>11817221
>vr!zone
what's people's obsession with shitty 90s-style mapping?

Question about how the GZ turrets operate in the 2023 remaster - do they still have this bizarre quirk when getting close enough to it for a full SSG to connect, the blaster turret suddeenly changes its RoF from roughly 1 shot per second to slightly higher than the player's machinegun?
Because that shit was annoying as fuck in vanilla GZ.

>>11817230
>full SSG = full point-blank SSG blast
I am more ESL than usual today. . .

>>11816483
the fact that the authors of this map are two foot-fetishist furries makes me laugh every time.

>>11817226
lowers the barrier to entry, probably. not necessarily a bad thing since lack of participation can sometimes be killer

>>11817226
People are probably just tired of endless over-detailed over-scripted over-purple-textured arena-focused wads with all of them ending in slaughter-slop mid-way.

>>11817221
>quake 2 upstart mapping project
This would probably be the most interesting one, but very few people here seem to want to learn Quake mapping.

>>11817237
If you're tired of the endgame of doom mapping then you're just tired of doom in general, take a break and come back stronger.

>>11817186
Sounds cool to me. I can provide some art/graphics for it. can’t promise anything tho.

Any gothic-looking textures could be cool too (not necessarily gothicTX).

>>11817248
if hyper-intricate hyper-modern slaughter slop maps are the only thing that move the needle for you anymore, then YOU need to take a break. i play doom to blow off some steam by steamrolling monsters in interesting looking maps, i get zero pleasure out of holding down the trigger on the BFG for 20 minutes

>>11817253
spoken like a true gzshitter

>>11817178
Me on the left

>>11817230
>>11817234
Turrets were nerfed like crazy go nuts in the remaster, but that still sounds like a dangerous idea.

>>11817237
I get people making overly detailed maps with shitty neon textures all over the place. I don't like that either, I think it looks ugly and bland most of the time. you can still create a decent map layout without doing that. but having an obsession with sandy petersen-tier maps is fucking weird and retarded. It's like you're deliberately trying to make a terrible map on purpose. just play d!zone or habitat, nobody needs to replicate that shit.

AMC episode 5 should come out this year, right? It's been 3 years since the release of episode 4.

>>11816746
the problem is that the PSX Q2 'Remake' is never gonna be added officially to the licensed KexQ2 Remaster on Steam or any other platform and selectable from the menu like the other mission packs because of licensing and the fact that it used PSX Quake 2 as title
with Remasters and Remakes of official licensed products there is always the problem of licensing
for example Zaero mission pack was published by an actual commercial company that is now defunct so I dont know the commercial rights of it to who they belong
I dont know what happens when a software which rights are owned by a defunct company (that was not bought by another company but simply closed down) what happens to the rights if it becomes free software or whatnot
for example for Zaero from the Q2 fandom wiki it says:
>Patches were released to run it on the game's Linux port, and it is also compatible with Yamagi Quake 2 for modern systems. It is not currently compatible with the 2023 remaster.
but it doesnt say who patched it after the publishing company died
probably someone from the developement team that patched it and uploaded it to ModDB
if they wanna patch the latest version of Zaero thats on ModDB and make it run and add it to the mission packs in KexQ2 idk who they gotta ask for it and idk if they need the source code for the latest updated DLL
there was another commercial mission pack called Juggernaut and this one was published by a company that later got acquired by Activision so the rights are owned by Activision I guess
and another mission pack that ended up being called Quake II - Unseen because this one never managed to become a commercial product because the company (made of 3 guys) that made it never got to get a publisher and later the developer company closed down
this one hasnt been updated to run even on modern source ports it runs only on the original Q2 client from 1995
and then there is Quake II Netpack I: Extremities

>>11816998
DoomGuy getting his morning coffe in a mug the size of an industrial silo

>>11817225
Nothing stops you, though you should try putting effort into the gameplay and looks.
Could always post WIPs and ask for input.

>>11817252
Well, it'd be nice to have a consistent visual theme, and picking one texture set to mostly adhere to would keep things straightforward and coherent.
I suggested Nightmare Corp because it looks cool, but GothicTX still looks good.
Potentially we could look at The Darkening, it has cool and distinct textures as well.

The only texture set I'd object to is OTex, because I've already grown tired of it and it's been used shitloads in the past few years. Also it's completely fucking enormous to scroll through all its flats and textures.
No hate on Vader, he's a supreme artist, but I want variety.

>>11817269
9 out of 10 times when people cite Sandy as an inspiration, they don't mean his visuals.

>>11817265
I think that's been the fault of some coding error in their attack behaviour, one that made them work not unlike a player-controlled sprite in any old 8-bit shmup where your re-firing speed was handled by a simple logic of "anywhere inbetween how fast you can press the fire button and how often the autofire is set to loop - but only if there aren't more than 2 projectiles belonging to you present onscreen".
One can check it out for confirmation by hugging the wall a blaster turret is placed at to have your hitboxex collide and see if it starts shooting at you around the same firing rate as your own HyperBlaster, if not even higher IIRC.

>>11817248
If the endgame of Doom mapping all culminates in an hour long purple haze with quadruple digit monster count, something is wrong.

>>11816746
It's a custom mod, but created by few Nightdive guys (mainly Paril) who already started it before the release of Q2R, to be included with the release. PSX mod also contains further ai updates and other small fixes, so it's almost like an official patch. Bethesda just didn't want it added officially even thought Nightdive tried to negotiate with them. But big respect for Nightdive guys finishing it on their free time.

>>11817223
>>11817256
Complaining about GzDoom isn't a personality.

>>11817307
>Netpack I
Has there even been a Netpack 2 made after this one?
Official shovelware CDs are such a weird bunch of artifatcts from a bygone era

>>11817307
There is also Oblivion. Which is best commercial mission pack imo. Very good new Sonic Mayhem style soundtrack, friendly marines controlled by ai that fight alongside you in few maps, cool new weapons and of course 4 new stroggs to fight.

What comes Juggernaut, the commercial version is actually incomplete. It was finished years later by original developers for free. The commercial version is the worst commercial mission pack, but the finished version is actually pretty gud.

Map-Center is making remaster compatible version of Zaero, and then looking into remastering other commercial packs too. I'd expect them to make Zaero jam after it's done. They are also doing Call Of The Void jam, after it releases.

What comes to Extremities, if it's mods were converted to remaster, that would have amazing material for future single player jams. Imagine sp jam themed around Action Quake 2 weapons and city maps for example.

The future of Q2 is looking quite good.

>>11817335
Nope, just 1. I wouldn't call Netpack shovelware though. It had only 12 mods (if I remember correctly), and all those mods were hottest shit in Q2 multiplayer scene back in the day. Of course it also had lot of skins and some bots.

>>11817335
>Has there even been a Netpack 2 made after this one?
I have no idea yet Netpack 1 was put together officially by Id and published officially by Activision yet it says on the Q2 fandom wiki page:
>For the most part, the included mods are completely new games based upon Quake II, and are all freely available on the internet in one form or another.
one notable mod/expansion/whatever that was in there is Action Quake 2 which started as a fan modification and then Id decided to add it to the collection but I guess Id doesnt own the rights to it those belong to the original team that made it and thats why its free on ModDB now and still played to this day
I found it on ModDB but it doesnt say anything if it was updated to run standalone or you need an install or pieces of the install of Quake 2
updating it to run as a custom deatchmatch/team deathmatch to KexQ2 would be pretty interesting because it has a unique way to handle wounds inflicted to enemy players you can cripple a player by shooting him in the leg or arms and also headshots do more damage
kinda like it worked in Soldier of Fortune where enemies had localized hitboxes based on which body part was hit
SoF the first one ran on a modified Quake engine but I dont remember if it was Q1 or Q2 engine

>>11817315
That's true. I do like GothicTX and don't mind using it again, but I think we've already used it twice in the past. I mainly suggested it because I like gothic environments. overall, I'm fine with anything really. we can just go with the NM Corp texture pack as you suggested.

>>11815054
https://files.catbox.moe/1gdkny.lmp
First time recording a demo, hope I didn't mess anything up. Picking up that rocket launcher near the chaingunner almost fucked me over, and I ended up killing the last baron with my last shell.

my passport died and now I can't download the 4gb of whatever of epic DOOM content
https://anonfiles.com/file/47ce1e2add17b143eb58f021b7bc7515
I haven't had to download stuff from this general in years how do I do this
all the rentry links in OP are for just the bare minimum

>>11815592
>>11817186
i regretted not participating in the fore/vr/ alone thing with all the sector art last year, maybe we could do something like that with an emphasis on sector art? or maybe i can just hide it as an easter egg in a map i make for whatever we end up doing

>>11817375
SoF uses Q2 engine. Only commercial game that used Q1 engine, but didn't actually require Q1 (like Shrak and Malice) was Hexen 2.

>>11817424
Let's do fore/vr/ faggot. Gachi sector art on very hard and fast maps.

>>11817421
hwo do you do what? download doom2.wad from the op and run it in a source port?

>>11817424
Wouldn't object to Fore/vr/ Alone 2.

>>11817186
I'm in if it's 2048 units again. i like short maps but not that short..

>>11817237
There is absolutely zero call for D!Zone tier maps, they had shit gameplay, shit exploration, and looked like complete shit. I could pull a random map from one of those compilations, tweak it, and claim I made it, and nobody would fucking know unless they went investigating those stacks of shit.

You don't have to turn to drinking diarrhea as a contrarian response to oveproduced megawads.

>>11814964 (OP)
>tfw op used your shitty no-ear-caleb edit instead of the original picture
I... thank, kind sir.

>>11814964 (OP)
>tfw op used your shitty no-ear-caleb edit instead of the original picture
I... thank you, kind sir.

>>11817472
Are you meaning 1024 is too short? I'd be inclined to agree, 2048 is a pretty good medium.

>>11817350
from ModDB page:
>This mission pack for Quake 2, an unofficial and indeed free add-on pack, was exclusively released on the cover CD of the Christmas 1999 issue (# 77) of PC Gamer magazine in the UK. The team who made it, released the pack for general download in 2002 but it was 90% done and required some tweaking and bug-fixes but that was only done in 2009.
it doesnt say anywhere what source ports it runs with
on the comments there are people that reported problems trying to run it with YamagiQ2
only the last comment explains something about the installation and how to run it
I guess you need the original Q2 1995 installation
>4. Finally create a shortcut from Quake 2.exe and at the end of the target parameters add in "+set game oblivion" (no quotation marks needed).
that comment doesnt specify which version of Quake 2.exe you need either
the main problem with running this seems to be that it makes use of friendly NPC marines that fight with you and a bunch of other stuff that was patched it but never meant to exist in Quake 2
I guess to 'port' this as a selectable mission pack to KexQ2 requires heavy modification to KexQ2 itself or maybe run it as a patch for it that loads when you begin the mission pack?
I have no idea

>>11817248
>If you're tired of the endgame of doom mapping
lmao
apparently the only endgame of Doom mapping is slaughterfest rotten garbage

>>11817505
can you even do anything original with (vanilla) doom mapping? you either go atmospheric 0/0 enemy horror walking sim or a slaughterfest

grrrr killing lots of enemies in doom makes me upset! i want to kill 1 enemy every minute with low ammo!

>>11817479
We could each (randomly?) pick a shitty DZone map, and then remake/remix them into something good.

>>11816656
>>11817307
>>11817495
>the 1995 original edition of Quake 2
You have no clue what you're talking about about, do you?

Final Carnage is the best map wad I have ever played
the content added in 0.2 update is amazing
it continues the story after version 0.1 ended
the secret levels are amazing and fit the setting perfectly
the secrets arent a torture to get either
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/137394-final-carnage-v02/

I'm interested in seeing what people here as a whole think about slaughter in this thread. Where do (You) sit?
>Love it a lot, mostly plays slaughter wads
>Enjoy it and will sometimes play full on slaughter wads
>It's ok sometimes, but not really full on slaughter wads
>Don't care much for it at all, will often avoid it
>Hate it a lot, wish it never existed

https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4N4eoga

>>11817538
I'm okay with a slaughtermap every few maps, but having several of them in succession is exhausting to me.

>>11817557
I'm much the same, I don't mind one every now and then. I like how Plutonia has the one secret slaughter map, and that's it, you really gotta gear for it. It's a fun one, too.

>>11817495
It does (mostly) work on Yamagi. The penultimate map does crash a lot because it's so large, but you can skip it by noclipping or just warping to final boss map. All else works. Even the friendly marines.

Remastering the mod is possible without tweaks to the kexport itself, but all code has to be built from scratch, just like with Zaero or Unseen.

>>11817046
But there posting muddy Doomguys!

>>11815592
REKKR megawad

>>11817282
Wtf is this TC about, I thought it was set in the future and on multiple planets

>>11817585
that wasn't mud

>>11817464
it'd be nice to put the emphasis on sector art or something, maybe give it some more clear direction - maybe you have to theme your map around your waifu? i wanted to do reimu and make the level a shrine or something, maybe we could all pick waifu and setting pairings?

>>11815592
I thought the Quake 2 Combat Jam was a good idea: speedy levels centered around combat or a combat gimmick - although that already sounds like Plutonia or Scythe. Maybe a combat jam for REKKR

>>11816004
Pretty cool, reminds me of Suspended in Dusk

>>11817593
Duke is dead and EDF recruits 8 other action heroes to replace him. Some of them are human, some are aliens or cyborgs, and some are medieval knights or warlocks. On some missions you fight against Duke 3d's aliens, on some Doom's demons and more. Some missions are more scifi, some more fantasy, but it's all tied in epic story with voice acted cutscenes and all. It's a massive mod.

>>11817631
The way I recall it described is that it's a lot like DeviantArt style crossover autism, except executed pretty well. A little bit like Tails Gets Trolled, but not ironic and deliberate.

>>11817186
I like this idea better. I want to do something straightforward and quick, enough with the shitty meme ideas.

>>11817631
>Duke is dead
presumed dead, not confirmed
>recruits 8 other action heroes
11 by chapter 4
>on some Doom's demons
I don't remember any doom enemies in AMC
>>11817637
I imagine if you like build games you will like it, I personally think it's mediocre, a lot of the good is heavily hampered by some very bad mechanics and garbage maps.

>>11817538
I don't play slaughtermaps but Sunlust is my favorite megawad (played it on HMP). It's simply the most creative and funnest Doom I've seen so far, but I still haven't played any megawads of the 2020's

>>11817651
>I don't remember any doom enemies in AMC
Dis Base is one big Doom homage, it's the second level you can play and has lots of "Doom-ish" enemies. I found some shambler sprites in the art tiles as well.

>>11817692
before the original spritework update the enemies used doom sprites like imps, cybruisers and iirc afrits too

>>11817653
wait i did play eviternity 2. my favorite thing about it was the projectiles that can go around cover. the sunlust combat puzzles are still funner, no matter how pretty it is

Andrew hulshult's remixes are shit

>>11817725
>remixes
music*

>>11817725
I think they are sometimes alright, but I'm kinda sick of his presence.

>>11817727
Yeah he's pretty much gone the Jeremy Soule route of everything sounds the fucking same and studios keep hiring him specifically to knock more of that shit out.

>>11817350
>Map-Center is making remaster compatible version of Zaero, and then looking into remastering other commercial packs too.
who are Map-Center?
do you have a link or source to spoonfeed me?

>>11817725
His take on Bye bye american pie/Them bones is embarrassingly bad imo

>>11817740
they use discord to coordinate map jams >>11811558
they have ten so far, plus one map unit called Alea, pic related
I think they've made the only Q2 Remaster custom levels so far
That's all I know

>>11817740
Map-Center is the one that's been making those 12 jams for Quake 2 remaster and also those 3 retro jams for Quake 1. All 15 are very good map packs, that you should play.

Map-Center does have a website but that forum is inactive. Instead you can find more active discussion on their discord or r/quake. Source for these statements on r*ddit is SpronyvanJohnson. I'm not posting links, because then my post will be removed.

>>11817761
You missed mine jam and dm jam.

>>11817761
map jams means new maps from scratch?
why dont they just properly remaster the mission packs as they were meant to be played?
like Zaero, Oblivion, Unseen?

>>11817198
first row done

>>11817781
They are properly remastering Zaero at this point. It's supposed to release this year. The rest if remasters will be done in the future, if they will be done, but Zaero is the one they are focusing on right now.

Map jams are themed map packs with hub map with has portals to other maps. If Zaero Jam will be done and sure it will, it will be a separate standalone release from Zaero remaster, featuring all new maps with Zaero assets.

>>11817776
TY. I forgot to mention in my post that there is no single list of all of their maps, at least not on moddb

>>11817010
Thanks.

>>11817034
>>11817068
Thanks, and yeah, I probably should make the hands shine a bit. Kinda forgot about that, I keep staying up way too late while working on these things.

Anyway, you guys got okay girl mugshots? Not ones edited from Doomguy because they look weird or that anime-esque one Doomworld seems to like a lot, was trying to give the reskin an Unreal vibe by using prisoner 849's sounds.

I tested Hell-Forged's female mugshot and holy nutballs does it look derpy on the forward-facing frames.

>>11817186
I'm in. Kinda want to make an optional weapon pack like what 2040 Units of /VR/ had but I understand if you guys want to keep it simple. Scope creep is a bitch, it already seized development in 3 projects I started.

>>11817761
And they also made 3 Map-Center Retro Jams for Quake 1. Those are insanely good.

>>11817751
Probably so that Alice In Chains wouldn't sue his or Bethesda's ass.

>>11817807
dont you have a /vr/ project to finish, choppedcock?

>>11817840
I'm not choppedcock. I'm concreteman.

>>11814965
Dimension Zero by Kurt Kesler and Chris Hansen released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/152284-kesler-and-hansen-present-dimension-zero-gzdoom-udmf-doom-2-rc1-out-now/

>>11815592
turok needs custom maps

>>11817850
I don't know shit about turok mapping.

>>11817854
no one does but it has an editor made for retards, I know you can manage to learn it in less than a day

>>11817787
It's cool that you're doing this.

>>11817807
I think it'd be better to keep things simple and straightforward. If you wanted to make an optional weaponset for the side, sure, wouldn't hurt, but I think what we need right now is something mostly uncomplicated just for the fun of it, and that whatever we're spitballing here is just a set of levels.

>>11817857
Sure you can try doing a turok community project, but I don't think there is much interest for it.

>>11817725
I don't agree, but he ain't got shit on 3do Doom's versions.

>>11817860
Yep, it'd be optional and basically keep gameplay exactly the same. It's more a nice bonus than a necessity, just throwing the possibility out there since it's something I'm okay at.

Either way, looking forward to participate.

>>11817864
nah, you can barely make a quake one and that's stretching it

>>11817864
I think as many as three people may be somewhat interested in a Turok project.

>>11817878
Well, you three could do it as some kind of /vr/ side quest mapping project, while the main would be for Doom for example.

>>11817860
>It's cool that you're doing this.
Thanks anon.

I couldn't spend a lot of time leading a project, because I have IRL stuff to take care of, but I could do partial things like put all the stuff into a .wad and what not. Or diagnose and fix problems.

MBF21 seems like the obvious format choice just for basic convenience, but we still haven't decided on a texture set.
>GothicTX
>DarkeningE2 Tex
>Nightmare Corp 1 & 2
>Darkbase Texture Pack
Any other suggestions?

>>11815592
adding megaman 8 bit deathmatch to the "so you wanna play doom" pic would be a good start

>>11817895
nah.

>>11817776
for some reason i cant unzip minejam1

>>11817895
Not happening, fuck off.

>>11817908
People won't let this go so easily. OP won't be able to run forever from the greatness of MM8BDM

>>11817917
Your multiple personalities do not count.

>>11817895
>>11817917
why? it's not 2015 anymore. might as well add gvh, aow, zh and zdw in at that point

>>11817924
We have a very persistent and autistic Anon that frequently badgers people to add 8BDM. It's hard to say if he's just obsessed and delusional, or just a really persistent troll.

Best thing you can do is mock him until he gets banned again.

>>11817924
le "it's irrelevant" argument doesnt work since a ton of shit in there is MUCH MORE IRRELEVANT and old. So either strip the image of everything that's not as huge as it was at some point (and let's be frank a bunch of wads/conversions there were not that good or that relevant) or add megaman.
All I personally want is some integrity so that it makes sense.
Don't know about the original megaman poster tho

>>11817931
OP disregard this guy and add Complex Doom instead to piss him off.

>>11817928
It's funny how you admit that he did get banned just for stating his opinion.

And for the record these two
>>11817908
>>11817916
(assuming it's not a samefag) are exactly the reason I brought this up for the first time now.
They don't even provide a reason, it's just blind contrarianism and "fuck you" attitude.

We can't have a comfy community unless there's cohesion and reason behind things.
Again, can't speak for other people who have brought up this issue before and possibly too obnoxiously

>>11816252
>DOOM
>RNG manipulation
uhhhh like what

>>11817931
>>11817924
oh, i see what you mean now, i never looked at the pic in detail and didn't notice it had a multiplayer section, it even has zdw in it. curious why mm8bdm was omitted, but by now it really doesn't matter. i've played all the other mp wads mentioned there but have never even heard of jurassic rift

>>11817932
I don't even mind complex doom tbhf. It's not for me but I get it and it is basically good.
But when we have like 5 irrelevant old piece of shit wads and conversions in there but can't have the basic decency to add the mega man conversion which still has a huge following and clearly took a lot of work - this is where I have a problem.

>>11817938
>curious why mm8bdm was omitted
Curious indeed. I genuinely think OP has something against it personally and I'm almost never the conspiracy guy either. It just doesn't add up otherwise.

> but by now it really doesn't matter
Yes it does. Because doom still matters. And we are still here, all these decades later talking about it and playing it. So might as well pay a little respect to a guy who put a fuckton of work into the conversion even if OP does have some kind of irrational hate towards it.

>>11817893
I'd suggest a title similar to /vertex relocation/.

unfortunately i'm bad at coming up with name titles like that, I'm sure someone else can think of something cool.

SNS is up and the ALT is on the menu

>>11817940
you failed to rewrite the copy without sounding like you're jacking off to it, then proceeded to insult the guy responsible for the image. touch some fucking grass you sperg.

>>11817942
the reason i say it doesn't matter is because the image probably hasn't been maintained in a decade and if nobody wants to update it for a single mp wad's (mp is giga niche here) sake then so be it, and as you said if it still has a following then anyone who'd be interested in it will stumble upon it somewhere else one way or another

>>11817946
I understand some people here are not the brightest pencils in the glove compartment, but I am not the guy who did that. I'm not even sure the guy you're referring to is the original mega man guy.
And again, I distinctly remember him writing a decent copy at the end, after he was made fun of for sucking mega man conversion's dick too much.
At the end he was just basically told "no, fuck you" after he came up with a decent section for mega man just like people asked. So while he is likely a sperg let's not rewrite history here because I was there

>>11817950
I must have called it a day before all boards collapsed, but I remember his first attempt was just as bad as the original description. Shame if he tried again but was turned down anyway.

>>11817895
qrd on this gay drama?

>>11817943
Title? Well, that's another thing we'd need to think of.

>>11817960
Autist is really angry about nobody caring to add a mod which virtually nobody cares about to a guide, and samefags EXTENSIVELY to create drama about this.

>>11817960
Someone said mm8bdm should be in the "so you wanna play doom" image. Blamed the OP, as though he were the one who made the image in the first place. Guy eventually sperged out and put it in himself, taking two slots away from other mods in the list to write a novel about how great mm8bdm is. Everyone hated that. Now everything is spite.

It really doesn't matter.

>>11817958
Nah I saw the whole thing play out. I even saved the screenshots of his persecution that he posted on other image boards, but I'm not gonna post them now cause the local janny will probably ban me.
But that's the thing that gets me: he's clearly disturbed or whatever (fucking no shit, this is 4chan) but he did try to meet them half way, he tried to make it right and was still told to GTFO.

I honestly imagine some sad guy living with his parents but who's basically still a decent person behind all the autism and he probably cares about doom more than anybody here cause he has nothing else. Kinda sad that we have this level of gate keeping

>>11817186
the only thing i'd say is it's probably not wise to retread ideas we've already done. if there's a lot of excitement for 2048 units 2 or whatever, that's fine, but i think we still need another twist on it.
>>11816540
this could work except it'd probably need to be done in conjunction with another limitation, otherwise people would turn in meme levels that are fathoms large and have like 256 lost souls in them or something

i'll go one step further and throw my hat in the ring, either to lead or co-lead with >>11817893, or just simply contribute a map or two

>>11817964
FWIW I don't think he ever samefagged. I don't even think he visits this thread anymore

>>11817968
I agree that it's not THAT important but he did write an ok description at the end.
And funny thing is somebody called him out on taking two slots for mega man but UAC labs is taking two slots AS IS and it's not even good

>>11817983
>I agree that it's not THAT important but he did write an ok description at the end.
Fair enough, but if you annoy people they're eventually going to tell you to piss off.
Do you have the final image? I don't think I've seen it, and if it's actually fine, maybe the next OP will see fit to include it.

>>11817936
Doom's RNG is deterministic and can, to certain theoretical extents, be manipulated. In practice, this isn't really doable or useful in any normal kind of gameplay or speedrunning, and it's only something you can truly exploit with tool assisted speedruns.

test

test also

>>11818002
>>11818005

>>11817996
>and if it's actually fine, maybe the next OP will see fit to include it.
I guess he will not
GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE

>>11817996
>>11818009
>>11818010

Couldn't find it but you know what, I did it myself. In a way where it's as reasonable and non-controversial as anybody can possibly expect.

>>11818017
Seems good to me. Slap that bastard in there.

Could also not add in mm8bdm because it is one of the most popular mods, and instead add something lesser known that is better. Or don't worry about changing the image as it doesn't need to be changed.

>>11815592
VR LABS (name subject to change)
Everyone makes a map in the style of a year of doom mapping, from "wow" to modern epic.
Doom is 32 years old, you can fill a 32 map megawad that way. One for every year.

>>11814964 (OP)
>>11817996
>>11818017
>>11818023

Here you go. Just use this link for next OP whoever makes a new thread.

Now we can all shut the fuck up about it

https://imgur.com/a/HHLHLPu
https://imgur.com/a/HHLHLPu
https://imgur.com/a/HHLHLPu

>>11817982
>it's probably not wise to retread ideas we've already done
We already did with #00 minutes of /vr/, four times.
The reason I suggested 2048 is because it's bigger than tiny 1024 micro maps, but it's not so big that you could get carried away and make any Drake O'Brien style mega maps, it's a generous enough space where you could do quite a bit, but ultimately only so much.

Maybe doing another 2048 mapset with GothicTX again would be too much of a retread, but if we wanted to do a straightforward set of levels with no special frills or twists, but also make sure it stays grounded, that kind of space limitation is an appealing option.

>>11818046
epic

>>11817982
>the only thing i'd say is it's probably not wise to retread ideas we've already done.
who cares? the new texture pack, MBF21, and some alternative title are enough. there's nothing wrong with revisiting an old challenge.

Here's another idea. Let's make a Plutonia-inspired megawad with recolored cyberdemons

>>11818046
not sure if troll or just tired

>>11817582
>from scratch, just like with Zaero
Zaero's source was released, so it's the easiest to refit for Kex.

>>11818054
cyberdemon origin story wad

>>11818054
call it 94 protons of vr and release it in the next 94 years

What about a limit on the combined HP of every monster in a map?

>>11818060
Don't fucking tell me that THIS is too crazy for you.
I literally put it in the blank slot where the P.S. for UAC labs was.
If you seriously gonna tell me that a fucking school shooter's shitty level pack deserves 2 slots but a short description for mega man doesn't deserve the leftover slot - I'm fucking done here

>>11818074
>I'm fucking done here
finally

>>11818074
Good, leave.

>>11818076
Once again I'm not that guy. And in fact when somebody uses this image and that guy shows up and still complains I will personally report him

>>11817735
The Wrath soundtrack was at least somewhat different.

>>11818074
>I literally put it in the blank slot where the P.S. for UAC labs was.
Lmao. You put a copy pasted MM8BDM smack in the center of the image my dude.

>>11818074
>I literally put it in the blank slot where the P.S. for UAC labs was.
oh so you are tired after all. i don't know what you thought you were doing, but you just kinda slapped the image in the middle, and i don't think the description is anywhere in the picture.

>>11818089
>>11818092
shit sorry I guess I am tired. I wanted to use that image first but then decided to do a screenshot of gameplay instead and I guess I just left it there.
Lemme redo it

>>11818093
haha just noticed you put the pic and text in the left column as well and deleted my post out of shame. i guess i'm tired too

>>11818093
>>11818095
Consider going to bed and then trying this again tomorrow.

>>11815592
we port zero tolerance to gzdoom instead

>>11814964 (OP)
>>11818046
>>11818092
>>11818093

SO YOU WANNA PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM?

https://imgur.com/a/kPeNfTo
https://imgur.com/a/kPeNfTo
https://imgur.com/a/kPeNfTo

Ok THIS TIME I think I didn't fuck anything up.
Holy shit does it take forever to upload all the other games pics. I didn't even know there were like 10

>>11818043
interesting idea, but did doom maps really look noticeably different from year to year, once you get out of the 90s? does a 2009 map really look and play differently than a 2010 map? 2011?
>>11818073
fun idea but would be such a pain to calculate, that and the thing limit would be novel limitations but probably not very fun to try and build a map around. there's limitations that inspire creativity and limitations that just stifle you 100% of the time
>>11818048
>>11818053
alright, sounds good to me. of the texture packs >>11817893 suggested, i like GothicTX the most, though i'll be 100% honest and say i've only made maps with the stock doom 2 textures so far.

>>11818125
>does a 2009 map really look and play differently than a 2010 map? 2011?
Probably make sense to pick a specific set of influences per year, but I imagine it would be more of a gradual progression after 2010 or so, yeah.

>>11818136
you could do something a little different and theme each episode after a decade, so all the e1 maps are in the style of the 90s releases, e2 looks like the 2000s, and e3 is "modern" style maps. would give people more flexibility instead of them trying to research maps from 2005 and theming after an entire decade gives people more room to express their own ideas.

it would also give people who want to make slick modern stuff the chance to make slick modern stuff and the people who want to make d!zone style stuff the ability to do so as well, while still contributing to one project.

>>11818138
That's a pretty solid change.
The secret maps should be something special.

>>11815797
Looks excellent, and nicely fits the Build look. If I could make a suggestion: Try switching the yellow access card for a blue one. The blue will nicely complement the yellow, and stand out against the red sky, which will make the presence of the key card more noticeable to players. Also, trying removing the lights at the rear. I think there's enough detail back there with the boom and other doodads that the lights might make it a bit too visually cluttered.

>>11815390
Looks nice. Are you planning to do a full megawad? If so, consider releasing 10-map blocks here. A lot of people here really enjoy playing /vr/ projects and giving feedback.

>>11816826
Are these based on real ruins? What are you planning to make?

Is FreeDoom good?

>>11817538
when it comes to "shoot stuff till you die" i prefer something more akin to gears of wars 2's horde mode (later versions are too tower defense for my taste), halo's firefight mode or even nu-doom's equivalents to the later modes rather than just something that's "a big room with 100+ enemies" that most slaughtermaps i've come across seem to be.

that said i think complaining about "too much shooting" in an FPS is a retarded non-argument.

>>11814964 (OP)
>>11814965
[6-22] So you wanna play some fucking Doom pic got an update https://imgur.com/a/kPeNfTo

>>11818138
nta but that sounds way too dumb to me. first episode is just terrible bad 90s-style maps and then the later episodes have more polished or detailed maps? It doesn't make any sense. I'm sure everyone's going to skip e1 easily, or even e2.

>>11818164
I think it would be more interesting if each episode had different themes...
>e1: nmn corp tex maps
>e2: gothictx maps
>e3: something else maps, etc

>>11818164
i mentioned d!zone but that's just because people were talking about it earlier, for the 90s style maps you'd probably want to imitate the official releases from the time, not the community stuff or shovelware from the latter half of the decade. ideally you might have people declare which WAD(s) they were inspired by. only issue is the 2000s and 2010s stuff would basically be a free for all since there's not a super identifiable shtick for those decades and all of the work from then was community-driven

>>11818138
Specifically aiming for different eras and styles, by episodes, and then making sure that this is adhered to and then categorized, is the EXACT kind of convoluted shit which is going to make this kind of thing difficult to get off the ground and then keep in the air.

How the fuck would you even accurately gauge if something is X or Y era style? When people on Doomworld did DTWID and D2TWID, they were doing that on a forum with accounts and with long projected timeframes, and they had a SELECTION PROCESS to make sure that maps would adequately fit the visual themes and technical specifications of 1993 and 1994 era iD Software levels.
Do you have any idea how many levels were rejected from the first one alone? More levels than the resulting finished megawad itself.

You wanna herd cats here through even a fraction of that kind of shit?

>>11818174
>making sure that this is adhered to and then categorized
this is the issue, and it can be solved by just being less stringent and choosy, which you're going to have to be anyways, regardless of theme, unless there's a massive surge in interest and new people submitting maps.

>>11818164
>terrible bad 90s-style maps
Just don't make them terrible. That's on you.

>>11818182
This. Just be less picky. I think you'd still need to be a little choosy and the organizer would have to reject anything that didn't match it's supposed influence at all.
Like if a 90s map had a shitload of small details and doombuilder generated circles and stuff.

>>11818173
>i mentioned d!zone but that's just because people were talking about it earlier,
just fucking ignore them, don't include shitty maps on purpose. lmao

>>11814964 (OP)
>>11814965
>>11818124
New OP pic. What do you think?

>>11818194
>and the organizer would have to reject anything that didn't match it's supposed influence at all
I don't feel that rejecting perfectly good maps on such a vague and fuzzy basis is productive.

>>11818207
then let's try and define some basis:

>90s maps use vanilla flats, are constrained in size for performance reasons, and must be vanilla compatible. limited to no engine tricks
>00s maps use vanilla or custom flats, have less size constraints, and should aim for Boom compatibility. engine tricks or other tomfuckery is allowed, but nothing insane or outside of boom's limits
>10s maps can do literally whatever they want, they're the real wildcard since they can use anything they can throw at you while still probably aiming for MBF21 compat

>>11818212
>limited to no engine tricks

>>11818207
That's why I think it's a really stupid idea. besides It's like segregating the low-quality maps from the more detailed ones. just make different episodes with different themes, like this anon suggested here >>11818171 or something similar so people can choose whatever style they want for their map.

>>11818219
I also wanted to suggest an Aztec-like theme for an episode, just saying...

Serious question. How long would it take to get a handle on doom map making to the point I could make something on par with an original doom map?

>>11818212
>>11818194
>>11818182
>>11818138
>>11818125
This is a conceptually interesting idea, but which isn't going to fly.
Anons lost interest enough in Vertex Relocation that was lingering for over a month with just about zero progress happening, and you want to engage in a much more complex themed project with poorly defined goals and rules?

>>11818207
>perfectly good maps
If they were perfectly good they wouldn't get rejected.
>>11818212
Probably a better way to go around it.
Ep 1 - vanilla compat
Ep 2 - boom
Ep 3 - I'd allow full on GZDoom features, room over room, whatever the fuck. But that might annoy purists.
>>11818219
>besides It's like segregating the low-quality maps from the more detailed ones
detail != quality. That's a weird way to think about it.

>>11818227
2 weeks of actual effort and consideration, using modern tools and having any modicum of natural talent.

>>11818228
>with poorly defined goals and rules
We're literally hammering that out now. It's just an idea, not a design document. Hammer it out with us.

>>11818212
i think i'll pass this time

>>11818229
>Ep 1 - vanilla compat
>Ep 2 - boom
>Ep 3 - I'd allow full on GZDoom features, room over room, whatever the fuck.
So a completely disjointed mess that only works fully on GzDoom?

>>11818212
I'd rather skip something like this.

>>11818219
that's fine, i'm not stuck on the idea, just thought it should be discussed some. doing a different theme per ep could be interesting, like you and >>11818171 suggested. like i mentioned earlier it's probably important to have fun restrictions instead of purely technical or asphyxiating ones.

>>11818171
This is a better idea than the weird chronological thing.

I have to say that chronological vr project doesn't sound very good. Just keep it simple. /vr/!zone and 500 minutes sound good to me.

>>11815772
>>11816085
>>11816139
That wasn't me, but I'm here. I lurk every few days, though I haven't posted in awhile. They still haven't found me and I bought a decent wooden table at a yard sale to replace my foldout, so things are just peachy at the moment. Hope you bros are doing good too!

>>11818212
I think it's an amazing idea and don't let super conservatives of this thread discourage you

let's scrap the chronological thing, even if it's possible it's probably not what people want to do

people seem to want to do 2048 units again, >>11817186, but maybe with defined texture sets for each episode, like in >>11818171?

do you guys think we need additional limitations to make it feel more "fresh" or is it good enough to just do 2048 units again with defined texture sets? personally i wouldn't mind doing some sector art, like i mentioned in >>11817605, but maybe that could be my own map and not have to be a theme or restriction for everyone else.

so who's leading this hypothetical project. which one of ya's got da balls

>>11818150
The graphics take some getting used to, but yes, the levels play fairly well. They've seen some major changes since the early days of Freedoom, but they're still good. I guess what you could do is throw all of the Doom sprites and sounds into a PWAD and load that with Freedoom to make it a bit more like the original. You could probably also just throw all of Doom's textures in there as well, but I think Freedoom has some textures with no counterpart in any commercial IWAD, so you may get a slightly clashing art-style in some places.

Is the freelook in DSDA and PrBoom purely cosmetic? That is to say it has no actual effect on gameplay and doesn't change Doom's autoaim?

>>11818281
Instead of a size limit, have a strict time limit. They pump out so many maps because they enforce time limits. I played combat jam, a 48-hour speedmap session centered around combat, and it's more fun than a lot of other stuff

>>11818302
>They
Map-Center

>>11818281
>do you guys think we need additional limitations to make it feel more "fresh" or is it good enough to just do 2048 units again with defined texture sets?
I'm good with that.

>personally i wouldn't mind doing some sector art, like i mentioned in >>11817605, but maybe that could be my own map and not have to be a theme or restriction for everyone else
Maybe not enforcing it, but perhaps adding a few custom colored flats to provide a few more colors, so that people can sector art better if they want.

Which is worse?
Home but no computer? >>11815198
Or computer but no home? https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/11236398/#11241552

>>11818284
ENTER

>>11818302
>strict time limit
fuck no

>>11818335
LOL it'd be super funny actually if he lead a new project out of nowhere with 94p still dead

>>11818342
94p never

>>11818284
>>11818345
i'll step up and lead it in the absence of anyone who wants to do it who knows better. same anon as >>11818281. probably better to not launch the project in a thread that's about to die, so when the next one starts i'll put up a poll and start namefagging so you'll know it's me

>>11818324
I'll take the computer any day.

>>11818360
gimmi a ciggie, i ain't smoked in a fuckin coons age

>>11818363
Nothing is better than a good smoke when you're toasted, man. Come on down to the basement and you can have a pack on me.

>>11818335
Holy shit, that would instantly kill my hopes for this new project lol

>>11818324
>>11818360
i have so many questions, i dont even know where to start. how do you not get caught? why are you living under your job to begin with? why the elephant plush? why decide to post up in the plumbing room? why do you have what looks like a decent PC while living like a peasant in every other way? what the fuck is your life lmao. not trying to be nasty, im just legitimately curious how somebody ends up in this kind of situation and how you keep it together. if anything i am amazed

>Darkening textures for techbases
>GothicTX for gothic castle stuffs
What would a third set of textures be, and are there any available? Something thematically distinct from the other two, and which is flexible enough that everyone's maps in this theme won't all look the same?

>>11818376
it'd be such an incredible bit if he actually got it done in a reasonable amount of time lol

>>11818387
Some anon suggested an aztec-like theme for the other episode. I think it sounds cool, but I don't know if there's any texture pack like that.

If not, a hell-themed episode could be an option too, or maybe something outdoorsy or whatever.

>>11818412
>an aztec-like theme for the other episode
Uh, I believe that Scythe 2 has a bunch of textures like that, some sourced out of Hexen 2. That wouldn't be a bad one, though I don't know if there's just a .wad with those textures anywhere.

Good suggestion and I'd be keeping it in mind, but still open more ones.

>>11818335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14

>>11817282
Snowfall is my favorite character

>>11818360
>>11818363
>>11818369

>>11817725
Agreed. Oversaturated shit

>>11818387
if more than one person ends up wanting to do sector art with me it'd be nice to have some stuff for that, either crammed into a more general purpose set for the third ep or just keeping that in mind in general. would have to gauge interest of course, i can probably just make do with the flats provided in the sets.

Heel knights should be women and doom guy needs to impregnate one

what would we think about increasing the map size limit to 4096? too big? at least that would be a change and we wouldn't literally be making 2048 units part 2

>>11818470
Recoloring a few flats would be pretty quick and easy, just gotta need the three sets of textures confirmed first. Don't need a lot of colors either, just enough to help people work with sector art.

>>11818497
are there any texture sets with east asian motifs? i have a vision for a map i wanna do but it'd only really make sense with the right texture pack, might be worth looking into making at least a partial one myself

>>11818503
I don't know of any offhand, but that would also be a good theme. Shadow Warrior has some stuff that might fit or be adaptable, obviously, while I think Deus Vult 2 and Hacx have some which could also fit.
Wasn't there a DBP with some azn themes? Maybe that's already a good set to lift from.

>>11818496
I genuinely can't see what's wrong with doing 2048 units part 2

>>11818512
i just don't want people to be like "oh, this? we've already done it, i'm out"

>>11818485
I just imagined Quake knights with high heels and boobplate armor.
Someone needs to make this.

>>11818380
It's all good man, I know it's kind of weird. Basically I started working at this place about 7 years ago as a janitor, it's a tech company in a office building. I had previously worked as an apartment maintenance technician where I had to be available 24/7 in case somebody's water heater is leaking or some shit. The owner of the building is a major jew that nickle and dimes everything, so he hired me with the understanding that (based on my "qualifications") I'd tend to the building's system alone and basically be the bitch of the unit day or night. Oh, if only he knew who was really getting jewed...

I was made a keyholder during the first month (when the last two guys were on their way out) so I could deal with infrastructure issues that nobody else wanted to. I was living at my buddy's mom's house when I first started and her business went under shortly after, so she sold the house and I was forced to leave and lived in my car for a couple months. I was looking for options, and quickly realized that nobody was at this place after 6-7pm, and I knew nobody came down to the basement except me. There are only two cameras, one at the north entrance and one in the lobby (and the basement entrance is at the rear, which you can reach from a back road), so I figured, hey, why not try sleeping in this place instead of my car where the windows get foggy in 10 minutes and I freeze to death in an hour?

The basement is a large room where we keep a bunch of old shit, and there are a few offshoot areas for utilities. I chose the sump pump room because it's small so heat doesn't dissipate as easily, and I can piss and pour cigarette ash down the openings. As for the elephant, it belonged to my girlfriend who died in a car crash in 2021, and the computer might look alright but it's a $300 build that I mangled together from an HP Elite Desk 800 G1 motherboard with some shit I bought off ebay. I'm running a k620 quadro and 8gb of RAM, but it's enough to suit my needs.

>>11818517
nobody said that, that's just you.

>>11818496
That map size is large enough that the constriction almost doesn't matter.
Personally, I'm fine with doing a second 2048 format set, we already did like 4 speedmapping .wads

>>11818501
GGs

>>11818520
>As for the elephant, it belonged to my girlfriend who died in a car crash in 2021
Man, that's really harsh, dude.

>>11818512
Me neither, besides 2048-1 was boom format and this new one is mbf21 with more new textures, so thats different enough for me.

>>11818520
holy hell dude you are a legend. there is no way you arent getting fucked raw at some point but i respect the balls. how do you live every day not giving this much of a fuck? also whats your favorite doom level

>>11818542
All I can say is that everybody is going to die one day, man. There's no permanent respite on this earth. I'm not stupid, I take measures to ensure my livelihood, but in lieu of my best efforts I could just as easily get caught down here tomorrow as anyone else might have some random thing happen to them that they couldn't predict. Life is a gamble. All that matters to me is carving out comfort where you can find it, for as long as you can, and hoping for the best. I pray to God every day, and so far he hasn't let me down. I'm saving up money to buy as a house, and as soon as I can muster the cash I'll be out of here and in my own place.

My favorite level is Perfect Hatred. I prefer D2 over all but that level is crazy good, especially since Romero made the whole thing in 6 hours (so I've heard). I raged hard many times before being able to pistol start it.

If we are going for three flavors of level, how about the name for the project has something to do with three?

>Triad
>Threesome
>Triskelion
>Triplex
>Triplefold
>Triumvirate
>Trichotomy
>Threefold
>Trinitarian
>Trigonous
>Trilateral
>Triplicity
Something using a word or a play on words/phrases like these.

>>11818504
let's aim for that, then. third set can be asian-themed.

when the next thread gets made i'll put everything we've talked about in this thread into one post and start gauging interest. i'll lead it unless someone else wants to step up.

>>11818560
>Triumvirate
Trium/vr/ate

>>11818561
Sounds good to me.

>>11818560
>Trium/vr/ate
has my vote if this does turn out to be the theme we commit to.

>>11818560
trifecta

>>11818560
The Triskelion arm thing but where each hand flips the bird might be a funny symbol or icon.

>>11818560
I don’t like any of those names.

>>11818560
3000 map units? Not any decimal or partial number anything, just rounded down to 3000 map units exactly.

>>11818538
She was an amazing woman. We started dating when we were teenagers, and we were together for 13 years. She wanted to get married and have kids for years, but I was an idiot and wasted the time shooting up and drinking and being a careless faggot, and she still loved me in spite of it all. She loved me and cared for me and tried keeping me away from my vices, she gave me so many outlets, but I never took it seriously and just kept indulging in meaningless things. Then, one day, she was gone, for no reason at all. I just wish I could take it back. If I had done one single thing differently, maybe she wouldn't have gotten in her car that day. Why did I act like that? Why didn't I love her like she loved me? It makes me cry man. The world is so fucked, but I know she wouldn't want me to give up. I'm going to make it, one way or another, and be the man she wanted me to be. I love you Julie, I'm sorry it all went down this way.

>>11818593
Jesus dude, I should not be getting feels from a fucking doom thread right now. I hope you've at least stopped doing heroin.

>>11818560
I was thinking of a name title related to different dimensions, or something like that.

>>11818610
I did a shit ton of dope right after she died but I eventually stopped tying on the dinosaur. The drink is something I haven't been able to give up, but only because I know it won't kill me overnight. Man, I'm gonna regret this in the morning. We should be talking about wads right now, not this stuff.

>>11818616
yeah the morning where you wake up on the cement floor because you live in a basement lmao. no wonder you had good things taken from you. only an idiot drinks and nd smoke and does heroin. you got what you deserved

I have finished Ancient Aliens. I really don't get the hype but it wasn't terrible.

The guest mappers were awful though (except for Joshy and Lupinx).

Onto Valiant?

>>11818634
You're right. I was an idiot, and I got exactly what I deserved.

>>11818593
>>11818616
Hey, you quit heroin, that's not fucking easy to do, that shit digs its claws into you like a demon and refuses to let you, I can only commend your strength.

I think you're probably gonna make it eventually.

>>11818640
Unfortunately I've replaced heroin with drinking about 20 beers and a half pint of vodka per night, so I don't know if it's an epic win or anything, but I'm trying man. That's all any of us can do.

Replace Heroin with Doom.

Replace Booze with Doom.

Replace Cigs with Doom.

Doom will be your new drug.

>>11818650
why not both?

>>11818650
The problem is not wanting to drink heavily, smoke heavily, and listen to Alice in Chains while trying to beat DOOM without dying on UV. This is a seemingly impossible task.

>>11818657
we've got fucking layne staley in the thread over here

>>11818647
Not excellent, but still a good step ahead of horse, and you're holding your job, so it can't be disabling you. I guess the one suggestion I can make is to try to slowly reduce the alcohol consumption over time.
(Maybe substitute part of the craving with something else?)

>>11818657
I can kinda relate, I used to listen to a lot of Alice In Chains back when I was a sad teenager cutting himself every day. I still enjoy some Alice In Chains, but without the spiral of "everything is shit and I can never find joy in life", and without the cutting.
I ended up in a place where I can listen to those songs and they resonate with me still for their sadness and misery, but also in that I've put a lot of that sorrow behind me, I'm not in that kind of place anymore, and that brings me a cathartic feeling.

I ended up channeling a lot of that into mapping and modding Doom.

>>11818668
Every time I try to tone down the drink, I end up in the same pattern
>tonight I drink 20
>tomorrow I drink 19
>get down to ~10, no longer get fucked up enough to feel happy, dial it up to 12 or 13
>it gets a hold on me again
It just never ends, man. I started drinking heavily when I was 14 and I've kept it up for 20 years thereafter. It just never ends. Every time I think, "I'm having a good day without booze", then that nagging little thought comes out of nowhere and says, "...but you'd be having a better day if you were drunk right now", and I just end up relapsing. I don't know what to do anymore. Nothing feels good or real without the sauce or something else.

I wasn't much of a sad teenager, things were good then, and I never cut myself, but this kind of music speaks to my fucking soul man. If anything, despite how depressive the lyrics often are, I find it a source of strength. Listening to good tunes was only ever an accompaniment to the drinking, not the cause of it.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH8BgfluCJA&list=RDnH8BgfluCJA&start_radio=1
If anything, this shit has kept me alive.

>>11816874
doom won't make you sick
doom won't make you crash your car
or make you feel three feet thick

>>11818650
doom won't make you sick
doom won't make you crash your car
or make you feel three feet thick

>>11818685
Praying for you. My dad was the sweetest man I've ever known but had a severe alcohol problem. Don't let this stuff rot you away. You still have time.

>>11818705
I'm hoping to stay just long enough to repay all of my caused strife.

>>11818685
It takes years for your brain to bounce back after substance abuse. Alcohol fucked me up for a good 20 years. I'm only a few years sober, but I'm starting to enjoy things again. It's all up to you. You have to want it bad enough to fight through the shitty days, which are most days when you first get sober. You will feel depressed, anxious, bored, zombified, etc... that's part of the process of your brain having to detox and figure out that it needs to make its own dopamine/serotonin without stimulants. Lots of things help the process. Creatine, coq10, micro dosing mushrooms(don't do this until you can handle not taking too much to get fucked up or it won't work). It's a discipline you have to work at and it's extremely hard. You WILL NOT experience things the same way afterwards and you will always have days where you want to relapse. It's one of the hardest things to do once you become an addict(yes, alcoholics are addicts). You can do it, though.

>>11818636
I find Skillsaw's maps are overhyped by some, but overall, any time I play a level of his, my usual feeling is "... so that was pretty good."
Valiant is that for me, it's not my favorite, but it's Pretty Good. Good production value.

>>11818725
Not that anon but personally I feel like sobriety is overrated. First thing I do every morning is a wake and bake. If it wasn't for weed, I'd be crazier than comic Doomguy by now. Instead I'm just about as crazy as game Doomguy.

>>11817248
>the endgame of doom mapping

>>11818750
I'm picturing portals opening and all of the retro FPS protagonists stepping out.

>>11818753
>Doom: Endgame
Boom, there's a mod.

>>11818520
>have demons
>play doom
>fight demons
Anyway, 20+ is too much to be drinking. Hope you tone that shit down. You at least need to give your liver a few days break weekly.
Not great for your heart either.

>>11818561
Gimmi a castle map

>>11816402
How does Going Down drag when most maps are shorter than average already?

>wake up at night
>get sudden idea
>but still tired
>boot up computer and UDB
>scribble concept word in shitty sector letters outside of map
>save, turn off
>hope I remember what I meant when I wake up tomorrow

>>11818124
MM8BDM is not historically notable. It's notable, but not historically notable.

>>11818790

>>11818125
>fun idea but would be such a pain to calculate
a small python script could check it for you. inotify can be used to recalculate it whenever the wad changes

>>11818043
This idea works better if a mapper in question has enough knowledge and observations about specific trends in a year.
So there's a chance some mappers pick the wrong years for them and make maps that don't feel like the years they represent.
Wasn't Jenesis like a tribute to classic wads like Memento Mori and Hell Revealed?
This feels like an idea that could be done by one or two mappers that get to deep into wad history, as opposed to a collab of various mappers where some aren't that knowledgable.
Because I can already imagine comments like "not a bad map though it doesn't feel like something out of 2009".

>>11818560
This concept is interesting because it'd also enforce using 3 different colored keys.

>>11818043
>Everyone makes a map in the style of a year of doom mapping
>last half is slaughter either way
Can't make this shit up.

>>11818520
>>11818557
>>11818593
>>11818685
Damn. Godspeed, anon. You'll have many good years ahead after dealing with all the shit around you (and you will fucking deal with it).

>>11818823
All the other historically notable mods are significant to the history of Doom and its modding. The first TC, the first major DeHackEd mod, the first megawad, the first community project, the first projects that set the bars, etc. etc., or stuff like UAC Labs which is just historically notable in general. It's not just stuff that people played a lot of or was really good, they're milestones that changed the game.

A more historically notable multiplayer conversion mod would be something like Ghouls vs Humans, especially since Mike's success with it is why he decided the Mega Man mod he wanted to make should be multiplayer deathmatch.

>>11818520
>As for the elephant, it belonged to my girlfriend who died in a car crash in 2021
right in the feels

>>11818898
Okay so this is how it's supposed to go:

>"Oh, you're notable alright, just not historically!"
>"Oh yeah? What's the difference?"
>"SIGNIFICANCE!"

>>11818909
I guess we shouldn't have talked about the elephant in the room.

>>11818914
goddammit Carlos

>>11818469
is this fucking randy

>>11818560
terrible idea, troonworld will think this is a hidden swastika

>>11818981
>implying that's a bad thing

>>11818124
Back on your bullshit again, it's not historically notable, doesn't even mention who the fuck made it, and isn't worth removing added context for UAC Labs.

>>11818567
>>11818569
It sounds like the name of a prostate disease desu

Is Necromantic Thirst about to start beating my ass?
There were 700 monsters in the fifth fucking map, /vr/os.

am i the only one who doesnt care about anti aliasing
i'd rather have 1 fps more than aa

>>11819060
t:

>>11819085
>most successful apex predator on earth
thanks for the compliment

>>11818853
Yeah. It's actually an interesting concept, but it's a difficult fit for a board project like this, it would require pretty specific planning and control.
Anon should try doing it himself, actually.

>>11818981
Variants of the Triskelion has been used in such a way historically, but to a lesser degree, and we don't have the same thing going on like with the Swastika, where in the western world it's almost exclusively thought of as the Nazi German Hakenkreutz, even when it's facing the other way.

Variants of the classic Triskelion lived on in the western world like they had before WW2.
Pic related, the Triskele on the left is a typical traditional Irish motif, it's part of their old history and remains used as before, while on the right, you have the 'Triple Seven' (perhaps one could call it an 'Unlucky Seven'), which is a kind of motif used by a few SS Divisions, and then later by some Neo Nazi groups, though far less commonly than the typical Hakenkreutz or Nazi Totenkopf.

The symbol/emblem was more to be eyecatching than anything else, doesn't need to be used.

>>11818997
Fuck, that makes it even better.

>>11818560
You could've chosen a much better reference pic.

>>11819187
yea, but the thing is the names you provided suck

>>11818657
Into the flood again, huh?

Anyone have any experience with Amalgoom?

>>11819196
You're just a negative Nancy.

>>11819237
ain’t nothing wrong with giving some criticism, doe

>>11819210
If you play it with HDoom, does it become Amalgoon or Amalcoom?

>>11819210
It's ok, has some cool ideas but the maps start to feel really fucking padded very quickly.

>>11819196
I like Trium/vr/ate.

>>11818667
>Ain't found a way to kill me yet...

>>11819191
I just picked it to be eyecatching and because it looked kinda fun. Don't get bogged down in the Triskelion or its motif.

>>11818520
Jesus, didn't expect a proper coolstory in this thread and age

>>11818989
Not him, but it absolutely is worth that useless P.S. for the shitty school shooter wad.
> added context
LMAO

It's pretty clear that most people who remotely care are for the addition. And anyhow if it gets the autist and his followers to shut up it's 1000% worth it.
Let it go bud.

>>11819196
This.
Trium/vr/ate sounds forced and retarded.

>>11818989
sounds like it's you who's on your bullshit again. of rejecting adding new/deserving conversions in favor of permanent status quo. if people like you were in charge we would still have V1 of the doom image and not V8.

but fine I'll feed the troll: where would YOU put it?

>inb4: nowhere
nope, people have spoken. if you come up with a better slot to substitute - maybe they'll redo the new image

>>11814964 (OP)

>>11819310
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>>11819310

Time to move boys

>>11819297
>people have spoken
Let's actually see about that.

https://strawpoll.com/XOgOVDQO0n3

>>11819313
But we just hit page six, that's very early.

>>11819319
Eh might as well, never saw the point in waiting for hecking magical page 7

>>11819319
Because he wants to make sure his version of the guide is in the OP.

>>11819328
so change it back next thread lol. guy didn't even update actually important things like source port info, he's just trying to placate the whims of some dedicated autist who makes bad posts (probably himself)

>>11818147
>Are these based on real ruins? What are you planning to make?
Based on roman ruins. I'm trying to make a map that is at least partly if not wholly a ruined ancient city like Pompeii/Timgad/Herculaneum

I love Doom.

>>11819503
Very impressive. You've definitely got visuals. Just don't get too tied up in all that sector-work at the cost of the actual gameplay. Keep posting screenshots as you make progress, curious to see where you take it.

>>11817221
>our houses or /vr/'s houses
with a secret trans allegory ending et al?