Thread 40590566

Welcome to the Semen Retention General!
>What is Semen Retention?
Semen retention is the practice of completely abstaining from masturbation and ejaculation, often with the intention of preserving and redirecting vital and sexual energy to oneself.

>Why do it?
Reported benefits include: increased vitality, mental clarity, reduced stress, increased motivation, increased energy, improved focus, healthier hair/skin/eyes, deeper meditation, improved AP/Lucid Dreams, deeper voice, improved mood, greatly improved testosterone, improved physical strength and many more.

>Wet Dreams?
They happen because you had a sexual dream and you coomed. Learn to be conscious on your dreams and stop the succubus.

>What causes wet dreams?
The causes are many: Illnesses, telepathic bad actors fucking with your dreams, excess energy build up, watching too much sexually-inducing stuff, lusting during the day, lack of an adequate transmutation activity, eating too late at night, excess nutrients overall, stimulants like maca, ginseng, ginger, excess protein, excess carbs, tight clothes (pajamas) for bedtime, bad sleeping posture (this varies, find the one that suits you best), going to bed with full bladder, exposure to hormonal disruptors via food (pesticides...) or body care products (soap, deodorant etc)...
Previous Thread
>>40575317

>>40590566 (OP)
No one cares that you participate in nofap.

Ok, but seriously. Gay here. I practice SR and everything. I KNOW the benefits. But Does receiving cum in the ass and mouth from my parrner or others charge my energy? I've noticed that when my partners cums inside me I feel.more energetic (he obviosly looks not too good after. I've tried to push hin subtly into SR but so far, no luck *sigh*). I think pure retention vs having sex retention only differs in the quality of the energy. The actual outpur seems to be about the same, but the cum in the ass and mouth intrigues me. There could be benefits. Im vers btw.

MAGNETISM BTFO

>>40590645
It works for me. :)

>>40590645
Each time I fap it feel good, but after some hours my soul feel empty, darker.

>>40590607
I didn't realize I was seeking other people's approval for MY personal problem.

>>40590640
You are getting demonmaxxing gains the same way Soros gains power by drinking aborted babby blood.

Where You At?

It's in the eyes, the subtle shoulder slackening, your bodies silent language. When you coom, you debuff yourself. Each day retained, is a bonus modifier in ways you don't even realize. One bonus for me is random boners are back, and the most important modifier is not living in lust. One day Anon, you might look back and be kinda grossed out at how you were or acted. That's ok.

Will semen retention force me into becoming a normalfag and leaving misanthropy

>>40590797
At 5 1 week ago,at 2 today
OY VEY

>>40590797
day 1
Getting back into it. Wish me the best fellas.

>>40591110
Probably but you're going to have to face some shit. You've been short circuiting yourself in order to avoid facing something. Good luck.

>>40590566 (OP)
Nofap is a psyop by big pharma to increase the incidence of prostate issues in beta males. Once you find that unicorn pure waifu who you can finally have sex with, do you magically lose your nofap powers, or do you become a depressed beta doomer shell even though sexual activity is now a core aspect of your daily life?

>>40591233
you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the people that practice and the purpose of semen retention
youre mad too what is your deal?

>bored
>too late to start anything
>start a 4chan and X binge
>it's all lewds
>don't even feel anything
*sigh* was it always this bad.

>>40590797
Phase 4 checking in

>>40591260
I'm simply asking why nofappers believe they can't live a fulfilling life unless they abstain from sexual activity.

>>40591371
For me it's just simply trying to quit porn

>>40591146
cool, i recently put this as my phone wallpaper, good luck.

>>40590702
This happens with women in person times a million. Bigger high only as set up for a bigger low. People only recommend it because it's more "natural".

All this shit just to attract a vampire that will bleed you for 50% in a divorce. At least use your discipline to try and get powers, not this pathetic 'false marriage' tripe. The only real marriage is with your higher self, anything else is a delusion to bring more slaves to the farm

>>40591616
Can't say I disagree

>>40591371
BEGOME MONK

>>40591371
Because this life has demoralized us and pushed us into addiction. The only way to achieve happiness in sodom and ghamora is throuh abstinence.

>>40591722
>The only way to achieve happiness in sodom and ghamora is throuh abstinence.
It's about self mastery. You don't let your desires control you.

>>40591768
Everyone has their own reasons for why they do this.

>>40591579
>People only recommend it because it's more "natural".
It's also about insecurity and validation. They want a woman to deem them worthy of sex and ultimately, their existence. You're free when you realize that it's all the same

i've been complaining a lot about lack of magnetism lately but the truth is when i do talk to people i've been getting a lot of respect and laughs at my jokes, etc. your experience of magnetism is a bit like being a lightning rod, you still do have to socially interact (go out in a storm) it turns out

>>40591774
>Everyone has their own reasons for why they do this.
True, but self mastery is one of the highest echelons of self actualization. It's like learning and mastering any skill - it's not about the skill as much as it is about yourself. For instance, someone who is naturally talented at music won't have the same amount of drive as someone who developed the discipline to sit down for hours and practice just to get at that same level. The one who developed the discipline is just on a whole nother level than the naturally talented one

>masturbating drains you!
>i will not masturbate so i can find a gf!
>surely sex with her will not drain me as we are exchanging energies mumbo jumbo cope

>>40591792
cross that bridge when we get to it friend

>>40590797
I relate to that image for quitting alcohol. Similar in ways. I'm day 90 plus on that...Now to work on SR

>>40590797
off this chart right now. life is definitely changed but one has to hold the line even now

>>40591792
Women want me to die so this is something I don't have to worry about.

>>40591792
What usually happens is the guys in these relationships wish they were getting drained through sex but they get drained every other way instead. The ideal isn't real.

>>40591233
This post was written by a woman

>>40591279
Yes.

>>40591233
So what? The porn jew psyop is better funded, even if this was true.
>do you magically lose your nofap powers, or do you become a depressed beta doomer shell even though sexual activity is now a core aspect of your daily life?
What the fuck is any of this supposed to mean?

Just had a wet dream... I definitely feel weaker but not in the sort of way I would if I fapped. It's mostly the awkward feeling like you did something wrong even though you had no will over your actions.
Social media binging for sure had to do with it but the actual wet dream was much older stuff. Well it is what it is. I won't reset the count but I'll keep.it in mind and let you know. Also there is this much more annoying urge now to fap like the body and mind are confused because the body is for the most part satisfied but the mind thinks I should commit to fapping.

There is also a certain reality that my body is simply healing and this the pain that comes from it.

>>40590566 (OP)
I find that nofap is less important than no porn. I've done nofap for 6 days while still watching porn and still felt like shit, no different than usual. I do no porn for 3 days and feel fantastic.

>>40592446
You feel like shit because you were looking at porn retard. There are studies that show how damaging porn is for the brain.

What do you do when your balls start hurting from SR?
Kegels? Cold Showers? Exercises? Meditation?

Mine fuckin hurt right now

>>40592536
Be a man and ignore it.

Isn't the world ending in less than 5 years? You can see all the signs that the bible talks about. (kikes provoking WW3, building 3rd temple to bring in the antichrist, AI taking over, microchipping brains etc).

So what's the point in getting a wife if you can only enjoy her for 4 or 5 years? kek

>>40590797
it's going

day 2
You realize that all your life you have been coasting along as if you were in a dream. Suddenly, facing the trials of the last few days, you have come alive.

>>40592858
>you have come alive
ride or die nigga

>>40591233
>Once you find that unicorn pure waifu who you can finally have sex with, do you magically lose your nofap powers, or do you become a depressed beta doomer shell even though sexual activity is now a core aspect of your daily life?
Yeah, it's crazy how many people actually believe this. Just give it 1 year+ on a clean SR streak - the true test is if you'll still keep going even when there's no svidence whatsoever that it's doing anything for you . Still at the same job, still making the same money, still no magnetism, still no gf, still in the same spot in life. This is the true test because it erases your illusions you had about what SR can do for you and you are faced with the reality of the situation - that it is what it is. The only reward you got was just the act of SR itself. That's why you can't judge someone for not doing SR.

>>40591233
>Once you find that unicorn pure waifu who you can finally have sex with, do you magically lose your nofap powers, or do you become a depressed beta doomer shell even though sexual activity is now a core aspect of your daily life?

Go read Cupid's Poisoned Arrow, basically what the book says is that there is bonding sex and mating sex. Bonding sex involves slow romantic movement without having an orgasm for both men and women, meanwhile mating sex involves orgasm/ejaculation being the end goal and the sex is rough and fast. Most people do mating sex but most do it without the main goal being to have children which is what mating sex is about (using condoms, pulling out at the last second, birth control etc)

The book talks about the Coolidge effect, basically with every orgasm you have dopamine spikes but then plummets which can take a week for it to come back to baseline and you become bored of your partner. You could have a gf that looks like Scarlett Johansson in her prime but if you keep cooming while having sex you will get bored of her, however if you meet a new girl your dopamine will spike making you want to have sex with her instead. The author even mentions how married couples who have sex more are more likely to divorce.

Bonding sex however is the avoidance of orgasms and instead doing slow romantic sex and especially a lot of focus on gentle touching, this creates oxytocin which is the bonding chemical in your brain. There are plenty of couples in the book that say they feel like a teenager falling in love all over again when doing this type of sex with their partner, even finding their partner more attractive. Oxytocin lasts longer in the brain (multiple days) whereas dopamine when ejaculating last for like 10 seconds.

>>40592536
Either cold showers or get a handheld fan and aim it down your pants to cool off your balls. It feels great XD

>>40592446
I talked about this in the previous thread, it's because you are less aroused that's why you feel better compared to looking at porn and being aroused.

just fapped 4 times in less than an hour.. at least I didn't watch any porn at all

>>40593331
Holy cope, if you fap more than 1 time on a relapse its fucking over.

>>40593331
Bro I had 1 wet dream and I'm having a crisis trying to determine my culpability in it happening. I got it worked out that for the most part the wet dream itself was out of my hands but I did invite it by binging Twitter and 4chan.

4 times is actual addiction tier though my dude.

>>40593602
I still had energy for way more but took a shower instead, how do I get out of this?

>>40593609
What were you doing leading up to it?

>>40593615
I woke up very early (11 AM, I usually wake up at around 7 PM) and lied in bed trying to fall asleep again, ended up dry humping the pillow that I always cuddle with and ended up doing it too much and was very close to orgasm but stopped myself just in time, then I moved 1 inch and came, then I said fuck it and I fucked my pillow good. Then I was like "fuck this shit I failed already might as well try doing this orgasm without cumming thing people were talking about" So I tried to jerk off without cumming and I think I succeeded orgasming without cumming but leaked a tiny bit, it felt horrible. Put a lot of strain on my dick muscles and it felt super wrong. I still had energy for a lot more but I got up and went to the bathroom to finally clean myself and jerked off one final time because.. I honestly don't know why. I didn't watch porn because I keep my phone in another room because it's an IPhone and I'm paranoid that it's always listening in on me so it was out of reach for me while I was in bed.
On a scale of 1-10, how fucked in the head am I? Is there any hope left for me or might I as well just kill myself?

>>40590566 (OP)
Can I still cum in my wife? Or is the idea to not cum at all?

>>40592536
i meditate and imagine the energy coming away from my balls and into the rest of my body. weirdly eliminates blue balls for me, it's crazy

>>40590566 (OP)
So, the main objective is women?
Guys, just be rich.

>>40593650
Yes you have a wife that is what she is for.

>>40593751
i don't know why guys with wives come here

>>40593646
Okay so.

Dry humping the pillow is where you should have stopped.
You did okay whatever it happens.
The second dry humping of the pillow was all you and everything that followed was all you.
Just be honest with yourself. You messed up. It's actually very common when people fail this they go WAY overboard it's pretty normal. It's also VERY normal to be EVEN more degenerate when you relapse and go on a fap bender.

Just do better to nip it in the bud or it will keep happening.

I'm over here fighting for my life right now specifically because I had a wet dream and now my body is like "FAP COOM FAP COOM SEX SEX SEX". That's just the struggle.

>>40593202
So basically making love vs quickie

>>40592705
You still wouldn't have gotten a wife as expected if we weren't about to get BTFO because the women hate men and marriage. It's why they all mostly divorced, cheated or withheld sex. Marriage was dead decades at least before we were.

>>40591146
>>40591494
Thor, the Norse God of thunder and enlightenment, the one who successfully defeated the world serpent. It's almost as if the myths and legends about this God are meant to teach men something...

>>40593202
>The book talks about the Coolidge effect, basically with every orgasm you have dopamine spikes but then plummets which can take a week for it to come back to baseline and you become bored of your partner. You could have a gf that looks like Scarlett Johansson in her prime but if you keep cooming while having sex you will get bored of her, however if you meet a new girl your dopamine will spike making you want to have sex with her instead. The author even mentions how married couples who have sex more are more likely to divorce
So the book is just obviously lying but you still felt you needed to post it here

I can achieve orgasm without touching myself just my mind... uh oh this added a new layer of difficulty.

Gonna bring this to the judges restart the count? I think I should.

>>40594141
They could be talking about parasites and not anaconda dick

>>40592421
>>40593602
>>40593768
>>40594159
So... the details.

>Last night as I'm falling drifting into sleep start thinking of anime girls and such.
>I had practiced HFO hypnosis before but never achieved anything
>it's like sex I'm not awake and then shoot fluid
>today try to take a nap
>this time the girls are much much more vivid
>again like sex
>blow a huge load without ever touching myself once
>don't feel the total shame I would with fapping but now I'm annoyed because it's like the difficulty just spiked in the game

I'm gonna count in levels. Mostly because I don't feel like I failed more like the difficulty spiked and I wasn't ready. This way I'm also not stressing over wet Dreams and such. Over 40 days Success. Under 40 failure.

>Level 1: 47 Days
>Level 2: 1 Day

>>40592705
>So what's the point in getting a wife if you can only enjoy her for 4 or 5 years? kek
There is no point unless you want to start a family. If you want a wife just to have sex you'll eventually get bored with her - it's just how you are programmed as a male to spread your seed. Because there will come a point in time where sex with her feels no different than masturbating if you do it often

And if you don't get bored with her because she played the game right - meaning she has you whipped and you're the one scared of losing her, she'll get bored of you because no woman wants to be with a puss

>>40594212
retard.
stop counting days and stop engaging with porn it's that simple.

>>40592705
TWO MORE WEEKS

>>40593716
Rich guys are known for buying women legally and illegally

>>40594407
>If you want a wife just to have sex you'll eventually get bored with her - it's just how you are programmed as a male to spread your seed. Because there will come a point in time where sex with her feels no different than masturbating if you do it often
Just stop lying already you fucking embarrassment. Show me many men getting regular sex from their women who kept themselves attractive instead of making themselves hideous and then maybe we could start talking about you being right on this. But you might as well be talking about men having a thousand virgin brides for how out of reach that is, yet you're still yapping about the outcomes of this shit that very hardly if ever happens. Just shut the fuck up already.

>>40594495
as a lifelong noGF i am offended at any dude who complains about regular sex

Welcome to the women discussion general.
Here we discuss women.

>>40594527
Remind us again what the semen you're retaining is meant to be used for and why none of you can keep retaining.

>>40594543
I am retaining for my body and mind.
This isn't /r9k/ you filthy faggot, semen retention will NOT get you women or help in any way towards that.

>>40594557
Again tell me why you can't keep retaining and what the thing you're retaining exists in you for. I never said retaining gets you women because it doesn't, but you're delusional if you think the subject of women isn't already inherently related to semen and retaining it. This has to be addressed one way or another.

>>40594576
fuck off this board brownie.

I've been trying to tell you guys for the past 2 months that SR is a meme, instead you keep arguing about nonexistent benefits and give urself prostate cancer.

>>40594557
"we talk about fasting here, and all you guys can talk about is food and the food-related benefits of fasting wowww"

>>40594585
Man the irony of you faggots existence. You swear you're superior to browns but your way of showing this is crying instead of arguing or proving me wrong. I don't know why you even respond to me if you're going to do this shit. What is crying? It's some sort of loud complaining sound that makes no actual sense. You're crying right now.
>Durrrrrr ur brown
Bitch if I was purple you would still be retarded

>>40594597
>Welcome to the Semen Retention General!
>>What is Semen Retention?
>Semen retention is the practice of completely abstaining from masturbation and ejaculation, often with the intention of preserving and redirecting vital and sexual energy to oneself.
>>Why do it?
>Reported benefits include: increased vitality, mental clarity, reduced stress, increased motivation, increased energy, improved focus, healthier hair/skin/eyes, deeper meditation, improved AP/Lucid Dreams, deeper voice, improved mood, greatly improved testosterone, improved physical strength and many more.

where does it say women you disgusting nigger?

>>40594619
>Semen retention is the practice of completely abstaining from masturbation and ejaculation, often with the intention of preserving and redirecting vital and sexual energy to oneself
What is semen and sexual energy typically used on? Again why do you keep falling to retain it indefinitely?

>>40594597
>>40594609
its funny because this is /x/
SR is supposedly an /x/ topic.
yet you turn it into an incel cope for capturing women with your pheromones and magnetisms.
KYS NIGGERS

>>40594638
reading comprehension: nigger tier. I stop replying now pointless talking to blackies.

>>40594640
I didn't say it gets you women I said the practice is related to women whether you have the brain cells to acknowledge it or not. You're a sad stereotype.

>>40594593
>I've been trying to tell you guys for the past 2 months that SR is a meme
why? no seriously why do you care?

>>40594653
>Durrrrr why is thing inherently related to other thing being brought up
>I sure showed dem dum blackies hyuck

>>40594437
I wasn't looking at porn. This was stuff from the past that came after me. You are right but I am autistic and will continue counting days until there is no longer a reason to count days.

>>40590797
Phase 2, 33 days I think. Not completely clean but it will be from here on out.

>>40594640
"you are trying to attract women using the power of sitting in a room and being chaste. how is this paranormal again"

>>40594712
Because at Day 45 Demons attack me and start giving me semi unwanted blowjobs.

>>40590566 (OP)
Not to yuck anyone's yum, quitting weed did 1000x more for me than abstaining porn or masturbation, this entire movement is a joke, and I only realized it after making actual positive changes in my life.

>>40594757
>semi unwanted blowjobs

Coomed to mesugaki impregnation porn. I am ashamed of myself.

>>40594786
Smug until your next meltie and have a grand goon sesh tokin on the peace pipe inbetween vids the audacity of these potheads lmao.

>>40594786
I can quit and start weed with no issues. You are just weak. Porn and Fapping on the other hand.

>>40594787
I confess I don't hate it which is what makes it so diabolical.

>Oh wow look at you not fapping good boy
>Don't mind me just gonna give you a blowie and handie
>I can be any girl you want
>See you like this
>Haha good job... NOW FAP LOOK AT PORN FAP BECOME COOMER GOON!!!!

The devil doesn't greet you with vinegar. He gives you honey and let's you trap yourself.

>>40594795
>mesugaki impregnation
KINO but stop watching porn and cooming anon

>>40594757
i'm on day 145 or so and have never experienced this

>>40594828
if you have problems with demons, you need to delve deep deep into degeneracy and rituals, see their true form, doubt you'll ever want anything to do with them ever again.

>>40594803
Same I've never had a problem with weed, idk why people struggle so much with the giggle bush

>>40594891
what if you've seen behind the curtain....and you were absolutely horrified to the deepest atoms of your bones and soul....and you don't care? what if you'd still rather destroy yourself in a cess pit of slop and filth for 0.002 seconds of pleasure?

>>40590566 (OP)
7 month SR, can finally love again.
hopped on a dating app met someone but I think I feel my SR energy changing?

Is this bad to love? It's like butterflies again as if you are a child. But it feels very high vibrational sexual energy flowing in the body.

Should I continue to flirt with girls but stay strong abstaining for max gym benefits or should I cease communication with her?

She just texted me rnadom lil pics of cats she saw walking home. I think I'm in love with this girl fuck bros. Hows this going to pan out if im trying to retain while having emotional love for her? I should show her affection?

>>40595378
go deeper.
for example:
listen to this on repeat on low volume when you sleep for a few months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THdt_yamf9w&t
let it soak into your subconscious until you involuntary get summoned to the astral and tortured.
get possessed.
go to the brink of death and despair, then maybe you'll learn a lesson.
sounds like you haven't seen enough.

Do cats ward off evil spirits?
I've lived alone for years which contributes to my addiction greatly.
I spent the last two months gooning and smoking weed all day.
I recently got two cats in my home and suddenly my desire to goon and smoke has gone away.
I also feel repusled by what I did.
Are the cats BTFO'ing jewish demons?

>>40594854
I'm actively waging a Spiritual War with the Global Porn industry. That might be why.

>>40595633
Cute video but I think dude is literally making all that up

>>40595643
How do you know? Have you ever been to heaven?

Day 7.

Some anons mentioned creating a Last Man Standing Telegram Group (Albino Edition). How many would be interested? Rules will be more or less the same, except you have to post picture of hand with timestamp.

Also to all the haters, detractors, naysayers and shills in this thread: don't care, keep wasting your breath like you waste your vitality, lust can only rule over the weak

>>40595619
interesting. stay strong

>>40590566 (OP)
Day 11 and i'm getting some urges for the first time. Is this normal?

Did anyone else combined nofap with novydia?

>>40593202
good post

>>40594158
>>40594495
how is he lying? It's often true that men with attractive and sexually receptive wives cheat on them, sometimes even with an uglier woman There are also many men who cheat on their wives with porn because the effect of novelty is so strong.

>>40590645
>>40591233
>>40591616
>>40592705
>SR is about getting women. Look goy, you cant get women therefore is useless
getting puh is like a small secondary effect of SR its like one of the least important effect, only reason people get fixated on it is cus they are coomers (and need SR)

>>40594597
>we talk about fasting here, and all you guys can talk about is food and how much more food you can eat after fasting for a while
if you dont see how retarded this is you need to go back

>>40595732
I'm trying but today is the worst attack I've ever witnessed which checks out. Now they know actual fapping won't happen unless they knock down the gates I built.

>wild animals don't fap
>their body is often stronger than humans

Oh my gosh.

>>40595973
I was wrong, as usual.

>>40595962
Have you never been outside?

>>40595962
Dolphins also gang rape other animals for fun
Otters will also fuck anything with legs

>>40595959
so what actually happens in an attack?

>>40595962
>>40595973
monkeys only fap in captivity. rats only overdose on cocaine when bored
https://youtube.com/shorts/mP-iXdzTCHs?si=dDZuuye8D6Ou_Npc

>>40596135
incorrect and you are retarded

>>40596135
Monkeys fap in the wild, Posts Youtube short as proof it even has NPC in the link
I agree you are retarded lol

Day 4. 2 days into selling my new product and I have 2 sales. Next product is ready for listing. Slightly more motivated since the coom cloud is lingering days behind me.

how the hell did I end up on /x/ with this thread in my tabs? so odd

>>40593650
>/SRG/
>Semen Retention General
>"bros, if I [don't retain semen], would I be going against this practice?

What do you think, retard?

>>40592705
>the world is ending in 5 years so that means I should let my soul degenerate and go the abyss with the rest of the NPCs
that's even more reason to lock-in. I pity you

>>40595561
Rudolf Steiner has talked about it in one of his books, it seems cats do purify environments and that's one of the reason we have strange phenomenons like cat-ladies that for some reason own 20 cats in a small house, they understand it subconsciously the benefit of cats.

>>40592705
>Isn't the world ending in less than 5 years?
No, nothing ever happens, you are a fool to believe otherwise.

You will go to work and realize profit for the shareholders until you die, sorry bud, nothing is going to arrive and help you escape that fate, you have to find your own way out.

>>40595753
>It's often true that men with attractive and sexually receptive wives cheat on them
Lying by omission by leaving out the types of men who "cheat" have harems of these bitches. And the fact is most women are fat, otherwise in poor condition and withhold sex in ltr. You're saying all this stupid shit based on information you don't have because of its rarity and information you leave out because it butt fucks your narrative to death. And it's hilarious to say men jerking off to porn are cheating when all this is taken into account. Besides watching porn themselves or fantasizing about other men these women sleep with other men irl before during and immediately after relationships. How do you rationalize demanding such chastity and commitment from men that the women would never reciprocate? And it's not like you would bother demanding it from the women either because some part of you must realize how pointless it would be.

>>40590566 (OP)
21 Days in and I met a girl and blew about a gallon of cum on her face lol

>>40595973
Fuck off kike. I refuse to jerk off.

>>40595988
Rape and fapping are two seperate things.

>>40590566 (OP)
Amazing how no one itt knows what to do with the sexual energy
You're letting it build up and that will cause internal damage to your organs or the development of mental illness like the priests have
You are missing 1-2 key steps in the process

You truly are deluded subhumans, and if you get triggered by my post then you are worthless trash

>>40596999
enlighten us o wise one

>please jerk off you're doing it wrong your internal organs will suffer internal damage!!!1!!
Kek is this the new psyop?

>>40596999
Kill yourself faggot

>>40597168
It's not a psyop dumbass our science proves it. You are torturing your body for nothing but imaginary "benefits" that you took some random guy on 4chan and reddit for his word for

>>40597193
>took some random guy on 4chan and reddit for his word
you also get your information from random places on the internet, what's your point retard

>>40597193
Thank you for your warning, brave selfless soldier of truth. You may now retire and leave, everyone in this thread has been saved by your valiant effort. Sleep well, fair prince.

>>40597238
No. We get it from trusted media and approved sources such as the WHO etc. Even ChatGPT agrees with us

>>40597292
>Even ChatGPT agrees with us

>>40597292
>trusted media
>approved sources such as the WHO
>Even ChatGPT agrees with us
I audibly kekked, good one.

The fact that you subhumans immediately think I'm advocating for eyaculation and spilling the seed proves how utterly worthless you are
Cheap trash like you don't deserve to know the true secrets of the sexual energy

Alcohol seems to always cause me to reset, not necessarily when I’m drunk, but more so during the hangover. The absolute lack of any positive feeling drives me to masturbation for some source of pleasure.

Seems like alcohol is a trigger for me. I need to figure out how to enjoy a drink here and there without resetting. Any advice?

Anyways from day 7 to 0. We begin again.

>>40597360
>subhuman
can't even spell correctly
no grammar

>>40597360
I never said anything about "eyaculation" or spilling seed. If you lack the reading comprehension to discern that then anything you have to say about your "secret" sexual energy knowledge lacks the same required intelligence, and hence is trash.

Keep your dumb secret, we don't want it.

Jerked it daily for 20 years
I'm day 2 in and my ball are like 20% bigger and ache help

>>40596999
Let me guess. You re real name is..

Sure, Not.

>>40597371
Alcohol unbalances the mind. While you are learning to gain control it will only hinder progress.

>>40597407
Probably just a reaction to the sudden change in behavior, it should subside naturally over time. Maybe try putting your balls on ice.

Is no fap part of woman's rights agenda? Teaching incel men, not to see woman as sex objects?

I feel like only women can be this cunning and manipulative.

>>40597456
Nope. Because Lust kills a Soul simple as.

>>40597456
>Is no fap part of woman's rights agenda?
No.
>Teaching incel men, not to see woman as sex objects?
It teaches men not to react to sexual objects, regardless of whether it is women, men or cars.
>I feel like only women can be this cunning and manipulative.
Nice try.

>>40590566 (OP)
I did this for 100+ days and got none of these benefits. Is this snake oil?

They came to me in my sleep again, it's not even hard for them like some easy prey. Shovered and changed sheets but still feel dirty. Its been something like ten days from last time. I dont look at porn at all and avoid lustful thoughts, try to look at women respectfully even.

Tomorrow is going to be rough again.

>Be me
>Go on a no fap streak
>Eventually run into a woman that drives me insanely horny
>I relapse and collapse hard to porn when I get home
Truly Satan is sending his strongest devils

>>40597476
How does lust kill the soul?

>>40597531
>look at women respectfully even.
well, eh, idk about this one lol

>>40591781
This is utter bullshit. The brain can only absorb so much information before it needs time to process it. Consistency beats everything, turn up for an hour a day and put some good focused effort into what ever task you want and then leave and process it. Anyone who says they spend 10 hours a day doing brilliant work is either a grifter lying to you trying to sell you something or a narcissist looking for a one up over everyone else. You will only compound mistakes when doing something for 10 hours a day as the brain hasn't had time to reflect and you will burn out. But whatever you won't listen.

stop responding to this cringelord holy fuck

>>40597371
This has happened to me as well. Several times before.

Good luck bros

>>40597810
Cringe. Couldn't even finish reading that.

What's the consensus on semen retention causing things to manifest and women from the past to return?

>>40592536
>What do you do when your balls start hurting from SR?
>Kegels? Cold Showers? Exercises? Meditation?
>Mine fuckin hurt right now

Reach down and touch your toes from a standing position. If you can't reach that far then just stretch down as far as you can. You need to feel tension in your lower back.

Inhale through your nose deeply as you return to a standing position. Your arms should still be extended as you return to the standing position. Once you are standing straight with your arms now above your head, hold the breath for a few seconds that you inhaled on the way up. Then as you lower your body to touch your toes again release the breathe.

Repeat this process like 5 to 10 times. You will get relief in some cases almost instantly to 20 to 30 minutes after completing the exercise.

You have sexual energy trapped in that lower energy center and its akin to electricity building up without any outlet. You need to channel it upwards and let it circulate.

You are probably focusing on or thinking about sexual things a lot too which inflames the issue further.

I've coomed probably about only 15 times in 9 years with multi year streaks and it was mostly because of wet dreams or succubi attacks essentially.

>>40593695
>i meditate and imagine the energy coming away from my balls and into the rest of my body. weirdly eliminates blue balls for me, it's crazy

This works well too as blue balls again are just the sexual energy trapped/blocked in the sacral chakra and you are opening it through a mental exercise instead of a physical one.

One could employ both methods for more success.

Why is almost all discussion about semen retention centered around trying to be more attractive to woman? Has here anyone used it for something actually cool like manifesting, astral projection, shifting to different realities, opening your third eye, developing psychic abilities, etc?

>>40597407

Refer to

>>40597874

SR makes me feel like a real girl.

>>40597960
Based af

>>40597960
unfathomably based. You go, girl!

Why would someone try to invest so much energy in convincing others to ejaculate? Either they are giga faggots or they are being mind controlled by their own demons. A sad state indeed!

>>40597894

Yes I do meditative prayer to Lord Jesus Christ at night and would see a deep purple/violet Rorschach imagery in my mind's eye and experienced many times what internet searches claimed was Kundalini energy flow throughout my entire body.

The prayer I use is "Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on me."

Its like a cold electric energy that washes over your entire body. The sensation is cool but it doesn't make you cold. Truly a paradox. Its insanely restorative, you only need like 3 hours of sleep if you fall asleep with the energy already flowing. Uplifted mood, infinite energy, and physically healing. I'm pretty sure if you could be in that state long enough if would provide fabled negentropic effects. Literal anti-aging. God also seems to provide you with answers to things that you are thinking about, praying about, or are weighing on your mind.

I'm pretty sure from a scientific stand point what is happening is the electro-chemical, electro-magnetic, and electron-static/capacitive energy centers in the body are in resonance. When you are in the state I described above your heart beats in a strange way. Its like rapid light pulses, and then a deep powerful pulse in a rhythm.

Ironically I was reading some of Tesla's old writings from the 1890s and he mentioned experiencing a mood uplift and energy boost from being around some of his cold energy electric devices and it was based on resonance between magnetic and static components. He said a cool breeze would literally be generated in the room if the frequency of the pulsing was correct between the coil and capacitor.

>>40598012
GZEDEN IM KADOSH. AKHT FEGYN ZVZ DVZGATL.

Your energy, my Moon. VEDVM AST

>>40597894
Yeah there are two groups of people who practice SR.
>Group 1
lonely, isolated men still attached to material pleasure, hoping that if they retain long enough women will care about them. They don't understand that they are fundamentally different from normalfags and will never fit in with them or their women (this is NOT a bad thing).
>Group 2
Mystics who understand that OBEs, lucid dreams, creative expression, concretization of the Will, etc. require enormous amounts of vitality. You're literally aiming to pass through "death" (ego dissolution) to reach the Final Realization. Paradoxically, you need a lot of life force to do that.

I can tell you that retaining is only a part of sexual transmutation. Mentally controlling where that force is directed is the major part. Despite his aggressive, overly-emotional tantrum, the guy below me may understand some things.
>>40596999

>>40597894
i still think there's something more to it but the constant obsession with attracting women in these threads is annoying and kind of disheartening, it's really hard not to see it as an incel hopium thing. and don't get me wrong i'm also a borderline incel with a low-level porn addiction at this point but i'm pretty sure it's over for me with women and i don't think SR will really help that in a direct way. what i'm interested in is energy, clarity and focus. i do find benefits in these areas + creativity and i'm slowly finding ways to transmutate the sexual energy. i've been more serious about my spiritual practices and figured SR would be a good compliment and I think it's been a beneficial addition.

also these threads are full of people fighting about whether or not incels and porn addicts are even worthy of the practice. there are some good nuggets though, some of the more interesting stuff i've seen in recent threads were about the dangers of SR from a daoist perspective and the nature of energy cycles. i do think nofappers and incels could benefit from SR if they see it as a spiritual practice but from what i can tell that often manifests itself as constant cycles of repression, relapse, guilt, self-flaggelation.

>>40592705
We are close to the end. Peace peace then sudden destruction.

>>40598098
>i still think there's something more to it but the constant obsession with attracting women in these threads is annoying and kind of disheartening, it's really hard not to see it as an incel hopium thing. and don't get me wrong i'm also a borderline incel with a low-level porn addiction at this point but i'm pretty sure it's over for me with women and i don't think SR will really help that in a direct way.
you say focusing on women is disheartening and then write something like this. but one thing i like about SR is it gives me that teenage "what if?" feeling again. each day feels new. i feel motivated to get after it. i feel sharper and clearer. i feel like foods have new flavors and old songs sound new again. and i get to wake up and think, i've gone another day chaste, and it's already done this much for me, so much that i feel like a new man, what if something great happens for me tomorrow?

and because you feel that it's over for you, you want to just say it's annoying that other men have different goals with SR than you. i'd say be the change you want to see and write about non-women attraction stuff, then. i'm not even doing this primarily for the attraction, i just think it's fascinating

>>40597894
probably because it's one of the more obvious benefits that guys can't help but notice. i think it's good that it attracts people to chastity

>>40590566 (OP)
It’s a new moon and I want to start a new clean streak. I find that after about 4 or 5 days I experience a massive flatline where I feel burnt out and depressed. Is there a way to avoid this period or do I need to just endure?

>>40591371
Empirical evidence. Like holy fuck look around you man, women are now the more successful gender. You genuinely don't believe that has anything to do with boys born after '95 almost universally becoming habitual masturbators and pornwatchers since basically the very start of puberty?

>>40591233
Your first mistake was assuming that I practice SR for the “benefits” of which are mostly trivial. I’m not doing this to get laid. I’m not doing this to become more “magnetic.” I’m not doing this to get closer to God. I’m doing this to purify my brain and reclaim my birthright. If you wanna sit in the corner beating your meat to tranny porn then you go right on ahead. Watching porn and masturbating is the literal definition of “beta” behavior.

>>40598333
>i'm not even doing this primarily for the attraction, i just think it's fascinating
I haven't experienced or thought about it in a long time(most of my adult life in the goon mines) but do you ever remember moments where you were insanely attracted to a girl? Like objectively their looks are average but in that moment somehow they are the most beautiful person you've ever seen, and the attraction has a very spiritual undertone to it. And not "love at first sight" or personality based attraction either. Ive had that three times in my life and always wondered what the fuck was going on there. With one of them it was a acquaintance I'd worked with for months and never thought much about but just for a day I was suddenly madly in love with her. I feel like I might have been on the other end of that a couple times too. Strange shit, attraction is a lot more layered than we give it credit for

>>40590566 (OP)
How to stop cooming?

there's some decent info in these threads, but i wouldn't gauge the merits of SR based off the posters and their responses here. keep in mind the average individual that uses this website

>>40597588
I mean eye contact or just turning gaze, not staring at their asses

>>40595465
>dating app
No

>>40593202
>>40590566 (OP)
Thoughts on having a relationship (sex, possible kids etc) with a virgin girl but with ex bfs? I feel kinda the same way towards that, like the thought of someone kissing and god knows what more the "love of my life" and future mother of my kids before me will hunt me for the rest of my life if i allow myself yo get in a relationship with her ngl. I have met amazing girls virgin non brainwashed and all but they have had bfs before and i feel let down that they didn't wait for me and i lose interest
>>40595753

Day 25

>>40598012
Interesting. Wish there was more discussion about things of this nature instead of just guys claiming woman are suddenly drawn to them because they haven't fapped for three days.
>>40598039
Unfortunately Group 2 seems harder to encounter or are less willing to share their experiences.
>>40598098
>>40598363
I understand the merits of semen retention/chastity/abstinence as a method of self-improvement but it seems harder to find experiences or guides of transmuting sexual energy for esoteric purposes.

Day 5 going well. My record since October last year.

Day 39
For the first time during all this I had the urge and got horny as fuck last night
Coincidentally yesterday was the first day during my cut where I ate sugar (in form of sweets) to get my body out of the rut of low calories.

Day 3
You realize that you are catching on to the secret of success. It's just a matter of concentration.

>>40599360
You would be very lucky to get a virgin. Expecting to get one thats never had a boyfriend is absolutely insane.

>>40594470
>Rich bad
>Ape gives banana to girl ape
>They fuck
No. You should use your charm.

>>40598333
my point was that it's been a while since i even entertained the thought of finding a relationship so it was not a motivating factor for me to try SR at least on a conscious level (entirely possible that deep down i'm also coping and hoping for a woman to magically appear because i didn't cum). i feel those things you feel too which makes it worth it for me.

and i do write about stuff in the these threads (maybe less so these days) like the intense lucid dreams, epiphanies i've had regarding energy cycles, the extra warmth i feel when meditating and exercising or these bursts of creativity and flowstate i've been tapping into. i write about them in the hopes it encourages other people and add anecdotal evidence, but i wouldn't know how much of it was directly related to SR alone so i usually add that caveat. sometimes there's really good convos from people who aren't hyperfixated on attracting women but the majority of these threads devolve into angry bickering about muh magnetism and muh coping incels so yeah i find it disheartening

>>40599357
you were right. The "want" for love seems to be a source of sadness. I am back on track again. I'm taking this streak all the way to the 12 month mark. I'm not giving it up to some random dating app girl.

I was so incredibly happy until this SR formed into a seeking of love. But I see that seeking such desires is unnatural to me now.

You seek the self, you become your best self and everything else will fall into play naturally for the self is all that you can control in a meaningful way.

>>40590566 (OP)
The magnetism worked.

>Girl told me she wants me to rail her hard... Is this bait or my reward?
>Am I supposed to go through the chad phase of fucking bitches for a little while to realise this is pointless?

I'm deep into SR, I feel I need to complete this phase to get it out of my system as proof of what I already know.
Call it a second wind of living out college years.

I think it might be needed for confidence or experience of self that I haven't had.

Advice?

Day 3 I'm struggling
Just saw a woman’s face on an advert and popped a boner

>>40599914
I'm on day 3 too and starting to feel a bit more aware/awake

/fit/ here i would like to maximise my testosterone
is this a viable strategy

>>40600244
>for a little while to realise this is pointless?
No. not even a little. not even a smidgen.


...
but yes.

>>40591371
Because sexual immorality is against God, once you wake up to the fact that Jesus is God you can't go back and live in ignorance, the holy spirit accuses you too deeply...the funny thing is i asked for that power to not let him go but there are times I ask him to let me go but he doesnt. Gods love and mercy is so impressive

>>40600244
well you seem pretty confident already if you're thinking you're now entering a "chad phase" and you seem experienced too if you already did the "fucking bitches" thing in college. So what do you actually need from it?

>Day 2
>Level 2
>Purified yesterday
>had to basically bathe in Holy Water yesterday
>washed bed
>Level 1 was the more concrete removal of Porn and purging my PC and such
>Level 2 is the less concrete battle against Peeking and throwing myself into other boards and Twitter
>WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR

>>40592780
Good job and good idea

>>40597894
Christian so SR isn't the Goal it is growth in holiness... on the flip side Demons have been manifesting but ince you are aware of their source it becomes easier to fight them.

This is for you hentai, anime and vidya gooners. Fapping to 2d girls is WORSE then other humans. Humans have divine rites so there is a limit to how demons can interact with them. Characters and such don't have such things because they are objects. Demons use these Idols that men make as a conduit in order to attack people. Asuna from Blue Archive for example is literally a modern Pagan sex idol. There are many many more obviously.

tl;dr
Failure is important because it can enlighten you to your own weaknesses. Detach yourself from those things and you will see success.

>>40595633
Cute video. Cats supposedly aren't normal. And karma supposedly is real.

Anyway, it's good to do good and to give love.

>>40595980
You were right. That monkey wasn't wild, it was domesticated and caged.

i've frequently exaggerated my benefits in these threads. sorry playas

>>40590566 (OP)
Does looking at p*rn count? My ass keeps peeking, but I dont act on it. Earlier today I wanted to see how hard I can get with just my thoughts and man i was fucking sensitive. 13 days in btw, and with this heatwave in my country I am running out of things to look at on my laptop. Especially when I go on this shit site, too much nudity and I keep peeking. I keep saying tmrw I wont look at it at all but then shit happens. At least I havent gave in yet, but yk any advice?

>>40600575
If you're talking about the Christian God then guys are supposed to have a wife to help them and that's not happening the way the world works now. I doubt it even worked that well in the past seeing how even the most important men in the Bible hogged harems of hundreds or thousands of women and even killed normal men to take their wives on top of this. If immorality is being forced on or against you how can God judge a man the same for masturbating? Actual sex with women now should be avoided because of all the other men, their kids and stds involved but God still made us with a sex drive.

>>40600728
If you want to go longer you need to find non sexual things to focus intensely on or otherwise get busy with something

>>40600161
If I still thought women were worth it I would be putting in at least a little effort to get one

>>40600728
how does a heatwave affect what your laptop can display?

>>40600728
you are going to fail with this attitude. lock in before its too late

As always, ignore the shills. They are proof that we are on a good path.

>>40600820
That makes sense. I nut in a cup and the difference in appearance between doing it daily versus waiting barely a week is huge. It's a lot thicker to the point I wonder how it came out my dick. I won't ever be having kids though so this doesn't matter too much to me.

>>40600835
based cupnutter

>>40600668
kek, based

>>40600772
Nah you are leaving out How Man ended up in this state.

God made Adam with a perfect ability to control animalistic impulses. Adam didn't suffer from Lust because he had such perfect control he never felt it. Remember Adam is the closest to a perfect Human Man even more so before the Fall. He was hyper intelligent, he had all things he wanted, he could talk directly to God, when he felt lonely God created a Woman for him.
It's why the Sin of Man fell on Adam because he only had to obey a direct order but Pride and Envy are Angelic Sins. Adam wished to be like God and that sin immediately separated Man from his connection with God. Nature was thrown into disorder and it through the entire universe into chaos.

This is why God's solution to the plan was to send the Word his Son to die. Only God could undo such a horrific situation.

As for the Harems most of those Men suffered horrible Chastisement.

I have undersold the benefits... sorry.

>>40600933
Adam had to feel lust as in strong sexual desire to get an erection and multiply as they saw the animals doing before eve was brought in. That's definitely part of why she was brought in. It's also weird to get punished for trying to be like God but in the new testament you're expected to be like God or their son anyway. Even if those men get punished it doesn't change they made life worse for others.

>>40600787
Im working out and reading, usually practice guitar too when I am not on vacation (I am rn), what else should I do?

>>40600814
Im just bored my nigga, going outside is death so I am stuck on my tech

>>40600985
I don't know maybe read something more interesting or play a game

>>40600957
Being like God and living the Way of God are VERY different. Being like God means you want to be God, Living like God is obeying his laws and accepting your place in the Universe as a created being.

As for the thing about erections we are getting VERY in the weeds here. So Adam knew he was above the animals and God did not want him to live like the Animals. Adam desired companionship though but God had already planned for that implying he always intended for Woman to be made.
This is why I say we are in the weeds. There is an implication that part of what came with eating the fruit was the ability to create life because it is AFTER the Fall that God commands man to have children and populate the Earth.

This is all a result of Man having Free Will which for a reason even the Angels aren't entirely sure God refuses to interfere with Choice even if it means a being such as Satan damns themselves.

I'm just telling you Christian teaching on the matter using Tradition.

>>40601187
>There is an implication that part of what came with eating the fruit was the ability to create life because it is AFTER the Fall that God commands man to have children and populate the Earth.
Genesis 1:28 has God telling them to be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth right after creating them. It's later in Genesis 3 that they eat the fruit.

>>40600581
No, I didn't do the fucking bitches in college is what I was supposed to say.

It's something I wanted to experience but I was to shy back then. Now I have girls texting me asking me for sex and I'm conflicted if I should get this desire out of my system or attempt to turn my back on what feels like an impossible task, that I will regret.

So how do you deal with withdrawals? I'm I just supposed to feel like shit for weeks, maybe even months? I might as well just continue to consume porn if its this bad. Honestly.

>>40601254
Your right my point stands though because the next chapter says this which is what I was poorly trying to say.
23 the man said:
“This one, at last, is bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
This one shall be called ‘woman,’
for out of man this one has been taken.”*
24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his wife, and the two of them become one body.*
25 The man and his wife were both naked, yet they felt no shame.

>>40601382
No you are supposed to be actively purging the porn and other things you've acquired while correcting yourself.

>>40592705
the world will not end, but the world as you know it will. it is up to all of us to determine the outcome of the coming changes.

>>40601405
I'm asking because if porn is a "drug" then I shouldn't quit it cold turkey. I think I speak for all normies when I say... I feel better when I consume porn 90% of the time. Every time I attempt SR,NoFap my libido disappears. One time it lasted over a month with no end in sight.

>>40601509
"feel better" makes no sense. i feel better when i'm eating cake, it doesn't mean it's not destroying my life quietly

>>40601660
> i feel better when i'm eating cake, it doesn't mean it's not destroying my life quietly

It feels good because if you don't eat you'll starve. Starving leads to your death. Don't ever eat food again then because it "good feeling is actually bad". Go starve to death.

>>40600153
Oh o there's a lot actually i know a perfect pretty and non brainwashed blonde girl that is 18 and never had any contact with men, we get along really well but unfortunately she's vaxxed so yk

>>40601727
Cope harder, you don't eat Cake to not starve you fucking retard, you must be American because they're the only fat fucks that would use this logic

>>40601804
Cake is food, food feels good because if you don't eat you will starve. You're so fucking stupid that you couldn't apply the same logic to not having sexual pleasures.

And to your original point
>if it feels good then its bad
Don't take warm showers ever again then. Dumbass.

>>40594141
There are also tales of him defeating trolls. These trolls can be interpreted as hang ups in one personal life when trying to achieve a goal.

>>40601804
if i don't have sex, i still live. if i don't masturbate to porn, i still live. i don't need them, just as i don't need cake

>>40601727
>Go starve to death.
will just end up fasting and getting all the benefits of fasting. obviously i have to eat to live, but i don't have to jack off to live, you utter moron

>>40601852
>>40601872
The cope is insane. Your brain needs chemicals, there are certain chemicals that you can only get from sex and masturbation. Oxytocin for example is only released during sex. Deficiency in oxytocin leads to lower mood and morale in men. You fuckers can't just overlook these things.
>I-I'm not a g-gooner. S-sex is le bad and masturbation even le worse
Calm your tits faggot. Just because you can't have sex or jack off in moderation doesn't mean that everyone else should do the same.

>>40597894
I've noticed my dreams tend to be more vivid after a week and a half on nofap/SR.
I don't really feel a confidence boost but I do feel more focused and creative.

>>40601962
>the cope is insane
you are insane. the brain not only doesn't need these chemicals (as they come from inside you), but can get them from other things
>in moderation
do you do heroin in moderation? you're making shit up

>>40601962
Nobody is forcing you to do SR so what is your point you fucking moron

>>40601509
First you don't speak for anyone but yourself.

Second I don't care what you think. I am telling you what to do if you want to do this.

How come that people who jerked off were bullied and we even have words for them in most languages, like the word wanker, There's also a word for coomers in my native language.
How come this is no longer the case? Jerking off alone used to be something you hide and now people are casually saying they jerk off a few times per day.

>>40602002
>as they come from inside you

>>40602173
everything's been slowly decaying and degenerating

>>40602173
Lol we still make fun of people who jerk off all day, they're called "gooners" now.

We openly talk about porn now because of the rampant abuse of it. I see just as much anti porn posts as pro porn posts.

>>40602295
Learning who mostly controls the porn industry has turned me off any mainstream stuff, now i was in to 00's self recorded stuff

>>40602204
retard

>>40602332
this mf didn't graduate highschool

>>40601962
>Oxytocin for example is only released during sex
you're either stupid or just making shit up. any amount of physical or emotional stimuli by someone you trust is enough to release it.
maybe next you're going to lecture us on how gooning is the ultimate panacea to prostate cancer? fucking mongoloid.

>>40597371
This is a pattern I've noticed as well. It's been the cause of like 80% of my relapses

>>40602369
if i didn't i would wear it as a badge of honor but alas i did and i can still tell you're a retard

>>40602542
go back and read it all, if you still can't see your logical error then your inner logic incorrect

Day 3
The urge to coom is strong i need help guys please help

>>40602594
take a cold shower, read a book, do some pushups/any physical exercice (besides touching your dick) there are so many options

>>40601368
i'm sure i'll get downvoted on this sub for saying this but for saying this but just do it man, it feels like you're going to do it anyway (because you really want to) and are looking for permission.
you said you weren't sure if it was your "reward" which makes it clear that SR was at least in part about wanting to have sex with a woman through magnetism. so this is what you wanted right? go for it and see. that's what 90% of anons here are in it for. if it turns out it isn't what you wanted then you know for sure. you don't strike me as religious enough to think you'll go to hell for it, so what are you scared of losing? you can always start again having learned your lesson. and on the other hand it could turn out really well and you develop a connection with this woman, if that's what you want. maybe you don't want that idk, maybe you just want to have sex. just don't get too proud and think of it as a "chad phase" which is gigacringe, take the experience for what it is. and be honest with yourself.

>>40590566 (OP)
IM TIRED OF THIS DOUBLE STANDARD. IF A MAN WANTS TO JACK OFF TO LOPUNNY THEN ITS HIS GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO DO SO. THESE "NO FAPPERS" AND "CHRIST KEKS" ALWAYS END UP BREAKING THEIR VOWS BUT THEN ITS ALL OKAY BECAUSE THEY PRAY FOR FORGIVENESS.

>>40602772
Why are you angry?
Christ is King

>>40602772
the nofappers get off on the denial and to make their eventual goon relapses more potent. they love the failure, they love the shame. that's why they count days - it's the gamification of denial. the christnigs are similar but have the "sorry god i've been a bad boy mmm punish me" hallpass. just ignore them and figure out why (You) are bothering with SR at all and focus on that

>>40602594
Day 12. I want to fap but I'm not getting hard and all the porn I look at is not arousing me at all.
My desire is dead.
Which is strange because usually looking at porn takes me over like I'm possessed by a demon.
Suddenly I have full control over myself.
Perhaps I have outgrown fapping?

The best part of not watching porn and not engaging in degenerate fantasies is - so to speak - your heart getting lighter. You just feel better and more at ease if you completely distance yourself from this filth. It's not just porn - anything which objectifies people is wrong.

Daily reminder that the moment you look at porn, that's the moment your streak gets reset to day 0. No matter if you coom or not, your brain already gets dopamine, and the body changes to a sexual state. Look at porn = streak is done

Why is the pro porn side so fucking weird?

>>40602173
How are you going to bully a guy for jerking off alone when they can't realistically rely on women in person to get off? What are you accomplishing by doing this?

>>40602937
Not my point to bully them, My point is that people now brag about being coomers

>>40602874
I agree with this. It's all about the intention. The moment you cave in to your desires to boot up porn is when it's over. And if you can't control this desire, you're just a porn addict.
>>40602900
Paid actors and people not acting in good faith. I always feel like shit when I used to watch porn and that's enough to make me know that it's time to stop.

>>40602968
kek who are you keeping company with? or is this a thing now? When I was a teenager we were the first generation to get access to tube sites right at the start of the porn epidemic and the kids who would talk a bit too much about pmo were always seen as weird. We all knew we did it, and often we joked about it but i'm thinking of a few specific guys who bragged about it and talked about it too mucht were pariahs. indians mostly too now i think about it

>>40602874
Your streak gets reset to 0 when you jerk off and ejaculate. Stop this psychological warfare bullshit.

>>40602968
You said just talking about it casually as if that was problem. Yeah bragging is kind of weird but it's just part of life, why hide it? If you want things to be more "normal" take us to an alternate reality where women don't hate most men and the fact they have erections at all.

>>40602173
for obvious reasons (impact on social anxiety and motivation) masturbation is associated with loserdom, we've just lowered our collective societal standard for what constitutes a loser and believe no shame should exist ever, which is one reason there's so much decay

>>40603064
If jerking off makes you a loser what would would you rather have them do when it comes to their sex drive so they're a winner?

>>40603083
Literally going outside and doing anything else. Or cleaning up their filthy coom covered room.

>>40602854

I've mentioned this on other threads years ago on /pol/. You actually start to care about other people more and you are at peace most of the time. A peace that surpasses all understanding. One thing I noticed is that my inner monologue is basically silent at all times now. Unless I actively want to think about something like a task I'm working on the default is quiet. Prayer is more powerful and you just have a closer connection to God. You start to have lucid dreams all the time too.

The problem is most people don't realize its just beyond SR if you want the extreme benefits but there are still worthy benefits of just SR. You have to have your mind right/unburdened of traumas, your body purified and clean of toxins as much as possible, and always focusing on obtaining a greater holiness. Faith and belief is the most important. There are so many things in the modern world that negate, diminish, or obstruct people from this process.

All can be saved by the blood and sacrifice of Lord Jesus Christ through your belief and faith, but God DOES also reward those who love and obey Him in spiritual ways.

>>40603090
I specifically asked you about the sexual aspect because that's the topic. Touching grass doesn't make your fucking cock and balls disappear and if anything you're probably going to end up horny because people are wearing summer clothes. Assume they touched the heckin grass and listened to Jordan Peterson, what would they have to do when it comes to their sexuality for you to consider them a winner instead? Is your answer unironically just pretend you don't get horny anymore?

>>40603083
it's different for everyone, wtf kind of question is this? read "Think and Grow Rich"

>>40603116
It's a really simple question for any of you judging jerking off. If handling your sex drive by yourself makes you a loser then what would they have to do with their sex drive instead for (You) to consider them not a loser or a winner? I'm assuming your answers are going to be get an actual woman for yourself to fuck or repress a basic function of your body.

>>40603143
I will repress like tesla

>>40602874
i guess that explains why i dont feel as good as i did last time i did this, i am 2 weeks in but i have been looking at porn almost daily still. from now on the only nudity i see will be in person

>>40603157
Tesla is an extreme exception among men who didn't have sex. If you could become so important just from celibacy I might support doing it more but there's no results from men here that that's how it works.

>>40603112
The fact you need to ask is the problem.

This thread has almost entirely become guys begging other guys to jerk off. Really weird. I would say they are Jewish shills, but really what it is, is just a spiritual attack. Its the same as when Christ said on the cross "forgive them for they know not what they do"

When you don't have the holy spirit, and are walking in darkness you go through life like a beast with no regards to what types of evil you may sow. These guys have absolutely no idea why they want you to jerk off. They are merely demon controlled automatons if you will. Just rebuke their demonic spirit and move on. You can believe whatever you want to believe, but if it turns out these guys are Jewish shills or demon controlled automatons then thats all the more reason that we are on the right path. Its pretty crazy to think that some Jews are getting paid to destroy this thread or its even crazier when you realize demons are coaxing people into telling you to jerk off and getting rabid about it. Stay the course. We are onto something here.

>>40603233
>Not blindly obeying and making life harder for yourself than it already is is the problem
For who?

blasting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1pcfmK2nAY

>>40600477
yes.

>>40603272
You are a Man. Make your own decisions.

>>40603180
>Tesla is an extreme exception among men who didn't have sex. If you could become so important just from celibacy I might support doing it more but there's no results from men here that that's how it works.

Telsa was not an extreme example though during that time period. There were dozens of men who were visionaries of their respective fields that understood cultivation/preservation of of life force energy was part of the equation to obtain a "knowing" of things/information that was given and not of their own understanding.

The difference being that in the 1700s to early 1900s there were less easily accessed array of vices, entanglements, or "luxuries" that we have in modern times which sever/diminish the ability of people to access extreme abilities or benefits and be connected with God on a more intimate level.

Its harder now than it was then however what we have now is the ease of information so in theory more people as a whole can benefit.

>>40603264
I'm not begging you to jerk off I'm asking you to explain your reasoning for doing what you do and you can't be bothered to offer anything that holds up. The other poster was just a sad dumb racist. And what I'm seeing now are posters longing for the days where they bullied their fellow struggling slaves and the fake religious talking about how life is supposed to be according to their bible, but if they actually read the shit they wouldn't even be arguing with me. The God you're talking about made men with a sex drive from the moment they were created. They were also supposed to have wives to help with that sex drive. I don't know why you people bother trying to lie about or downplay this simple shit. And more irony for you to say it's demonic to point out you were wrong.

>>40602376
Nobody said anything about hardcore gooning you dumbass. Just because your dumbass can't fap or have sex in moderation doesn't mean everyone else can't. Getting triggered over absolutely nothing.

>>40603289
I've been making my own decisions. I'm just waiting for you to actually explain why I'm wrong like you accused me of being. Or are we going to keep the trend going of making shit up?

>>40603233
why can't you just answer his fucking question? you took the coward's way out of this one by avoiding a direct answer and smugly waiving him and his problem off kek and you talk of being a man

>>40603264
>>40603329
>Be extremely arrogant and talk down to people and accuse them and try to control their behavior
>Offer zero proof or good reasoning to back it up
>Dismiss the ones questioning you as demons
Again the fruits of semen retention and "Christianity". If what you were saying was just truth you wouldn't react so poorly to being questioned.

>>40603264

It happens every time in these threads and has been for years. Its even worse on /pol/. Its a blend of both bad actors who are paid and organic users who don't like what they are reading. There are MANY more paid bad actors than you'd think and they tend to be more subtle about their comments.

I have made many SR threads on /pol/ and the benefits over the years. They are systematically attacked by shills, slid in catalog, spamming to disrupt conversation, attempts to demoralize anyone just starting etc. Eventually its moved to /bant/, I get banned and then the thread gets deleted from /bant/

It happens every time.

Of course it worries the top of the power structures and systems because if a man can gain dominion and over the most primal urge then its likely he can't be controlled in general.

This guy has been using all kinds of falseflags and arguments to convince you to jerk off. Oof, couldn't be me, imagine using your God given wisdom and mental energy to try to convince others in a digital space about not-smoking.... to smoke. Absurd.

>>40603324
Where are the tesla tier retainers in this community then?

>>40603264
>It's da JOOOZZZ
You sound fucking ridiculous. Calm down fatso. I'm not allowed to analyze "semen retention" and offer my criticism? Lol okay then. This is definitely NOT a cult.

>>40603377
yeah he's probably a big scary jewish pharma demon sent to harvest loosh from innocent lil choir boys. raise your bibles lads! don't let him in!

>>40603368
Yeah and I think it's also a case of strong cognitive dissonance. Jerking off is such a core part of some of these anons lives that when they see a thread such as this one they get extremely offended and just HAVE to try shill in it to ease the dissonance on their brains.

>>40603385
No, you're just an autist that can't reflect on your life and deeply fears being left behind while others, formerly like you, improve on their own lives. You fear being the only one alone dwelling on your own filth.

>>40601368
what did you decide

>>40603377
Imagine advertising semen retention and Christianity by lying blatantly, having a huge ego with nothing to back it up, being a racist retard and failing completely to answer basic fucking questions. You probably easily fit at least one of these. How are you fuckers acting so disgusting but still trying to convince anyone you're above the average person or your practice is rewarding?

>>40603390
You're offended by normal questions you should be eager to answer if you want people doing this. Talking about cognitive dissonance. This practice is so strong and effective in making you a better person that your best defense for it is making shit up.

>>40603329
Is my reasoning even going to be sufficient for you when you are regarded?

Its simple. I don't masturbate so I can be closer to God. I also don't masturbate because its a cheap knock off of sex. I do it for the magnetism. I do it so im not wasting time. I do it so im not wasting minerals from my body. etc etc etc. There are lots of reasons. Your idea that God making a sex drive being a reason you should jerk off is regarded. If you knew anything about the bible you would know that the same God considers looking at a woman with lust the same as adultery. Or you would know that Onan was punished for coitus interuptus with his brothers wife as he chose pleasure instead of providing her with a child. Women aren't only there to help with your sex drive you big regard. If that were Gods plan then he wouldn't give permission to deny their husband sex for a time. You are so far removed from God that you have completely lost the plot and are now trying to lecture people who understand the bible, and have a relationship with God on how things actually work and should be practiced. Another big theme in the bible is mans ability to abstain. Abstaining from food for 40 days, abstaining from touching dead animals, cutting your hair, drinking wine, drinking water, etc etc. Its pretty easy to see how abstaining from jerking off to 4k vr porn or using your imagination to build a lustful charicature of a woman to jerk off to isn't in line with Gods will.

Please stay in your own lane. If you want to jerk off, that is your prerogative. The people in this thread who are abstaining have likely seen results including myself, and we don't need your convincing.

That was my first post here today, you're so mad you're throwing punches blindly at every direction. Go on bro, goon, nobody will blame you, just leave this thread. But your soul will feel it. People like you have the intellect as your supreme god, but in truth the intellect-logic system doesn't even penetrate on the second layer of being. Experience is much more rewarding and believable, and everyone who did SR can already attest to the great benefits it brings. This will be my first and last reply to you, and only because I pity you, I see myself on the past in you.

>>40603399
Nah I'm retaining like a boss and feeling great for it. I'm not even the guy you think you're replying to, I just agree with him that you christcopers are really funny but also sad and you shit up these threads enough to cause people like that other guy to act the way he does because of your nonsense and deception

>>40603399
have you actually tried it or not genuine question

>>40603368
Its as simple as that too.

Porn is free, and in abundance and high quality. The first things Jews did when they seized control of the broadcasting stations in Ramalla was to play pornographic videos over the tvs news channels. Top trending stories are about how women are becoming independently wealthy via onlyfans. Its extremely pervasive because it keeps you docile, unmotivated, and feeds your vice.

If 150m american men woke up tomorrow and cut porn and masturbation out for months, the boston tea party would look like an actual party compared to the destruction caused by men destroying the power structures.

Porn and cooming is this generations bread and circus. They found something better than sports, videogames, tv. Demons love it and so do the power structures.

>>40603438
>Your idea that God making a sex drive being a reason you should jerk off is regarded. If you knew anything about the bible you would know that the same God considers looking at a woman with lust the same as adultery
>Women aren't only there to help with your sex drive you big regard. If that were Gods plan then he wouldn't give permission to deny their husband sex for a time.
Sex from the begining of Genesis was mentioned as important, it goes right along with humans initial creation. And besides that it's described as a marital duty to help avoid sinning, denying sex is only meant to be for a short time. Nowhere can you point to where I said women are only there for sex, this is a strawman you had to tell because you literally have nothing else going for you losers. It's just a fact this religion you're trying to use says women were made specifically to help men "be fruitful and multiply" or otherwise avoid sin like this masturbation you bitch about, that they're made for and do more than this doesn't change that simple fact. You pathetic pieces of garbage can't understand your own God's words or design but you want to lecture and shame me about what I should do based on that failure to understand. You're the fucking demons you're accusing me of being. Dumb arrogant malicious liars and cunts. This is what you think being closer to God than others should look like.

>>40603455
I've been doing for a long time even before finding this thread. When I found this general I already experienced and knew most things about SR

>>40603378

George W Carey
Rudolph Steiner
Walter Russell
Manly P Hall
Victor Schauberger
Wilhelm Reich

to name a few all knew sexual/life force energy was important.

Even more recent was the Mo Pai guy John Chang.

Taoist writings and even Mantak Chia discuss how spilling 1 drop of semen is equal to the life force of 100 drops of blood.

At this rate, pick about ANY occult writer from that time period and they will tell you the importance of sexual energy. Retaining it and circulating it through your body is ideal. Overcome the serpent. Dark occult writings would use the release of sexual energy for rituals though. Steer incredibly far away from that.

There are immense physical, mental, and spiritual implications for keeping the masses at large gooning as much as possible. Easier to control/herd appropriately and damaging to the body, mind, soul, and spirit.

Making love to a woman you are married to is fine and your prerogative but losing the seed however done will diminish certain abilities and if an addiction will be incredibly damaging to you physically, mentally, and spiritually.

Sex is the holiest, most sacred, serious act man can do. And so it's also the most prone to channel all sorts of negative energy when desecrated; it's that simple. Masturbation is one such desecration, like many others. When done in a proper place with a proper partner, it can take one to the highest spheres; when wasted alone in a dark room while you imagine others doing it for a camera, it can only bring your own doom. Of course you know all that, you know subconsciously and that's why you're so troubled here in this thread screaming and cursing everyone. It speaks deeply to you. Go on screech some more.

>>40603438
>>40603445
But again like the other anon alluded to you. There's this grand ego problem in these threads, and I see it in your post as well. Fucking reeks of ego and arrogance. You actually think you're ahead of everybody? Because you don't touch your dick and sit in your room all day, that makes you better automatically? Fuck off. You are being ruled and governed over by people who have sex and fap daily. What does that make of you?

>B-Bill G-Gates doesn't understand the kundalini and doesn't practice semen retention. Therefore, I'm better than Bill Gates
You're a fucking ant, nobody. Does the bible forbid you making money and actually being important in the world? Delusional.

You're not "abstaining", you are repressing. Just like the 99% of this thread that don't understand semen retention at it's core.


I hate people like you so much. Fucking rambling about absolutely nothing. It looks like you were crying while typing all this.

>>40603390
>Yeah and I think it's also a case of strong cognitive dissonance. Jerking off is such a core part of some of these anons lives that when they see a thread such as this one they get extremely offended and just HAVE to try shill in it to ease the dissonance on their brains.

No drug addict wants to be told they have a problem.

>>40603482
Yeah well said. It simply keeps people weak both in the material world and the spiritual one as well.

>>40603520
Holy mother of projection

>>40603499
>denying sex is only meant to be for a short time
Not just that but Corinthians 7:5 says they both have to agree, and the time apart has to be spent praying. Let's be real no women are doing this shit.
>>40603519
Ok but your religion doesn't make a reliable "proper" woman fall from the sky or otherwise make them available to you for your efforts. If you fags are going to use this religion to shame you can't be cherry picking and ignoring what said religion says the men you're shaming were originally meant to have to avoid this sin you're bitching about. The way life works now is men are entitled to nothing especially from women, even if they worked for or were promised it. So your God should be able to easily understand or at least be more merciful if they stick to jerking themselves off. We don't have a world that conforms to this old edited book.

>>40603520
Tell us then, if you can't its because of your ego

>>40603531
You fail to to objectively argue against the behavior of what you allegedly consider drug addicts but you're still going on about cognitive dissonance. If you're so right in your behavior you should be able to prove it instead of relying on lies.

>>40603582
God doesn't owe nobody anything. You have to get your feet out of your door and be earnest in procuring what you want. That's some pussyboy mentality you have, of course it's expect since chronic gooners have no energy to do anything. I guarantee if you do SR for at least a month you get in contact with a girl. You won't do it of course, that's not why youre here, you're here for the attention (manchildren thrive on this) and because of the cognitive dissonance going on your brain right now. Anyhow, I don't do SR for women, I'm a celibate for life, and I like it.

>>40603531
>>40603626
If jerking off is a problem what's your solution besides repressing your natural desires indefinitely or relying on a woman who owes you nothing no matter what you do?

>>40603647
"The natural desires" are simply an habit brought on by addiction. They go on with time and get so weak you can simply ignore them.

>>40600728
>Does looking at p*rn count? My ass keeps peeking, but I dont act on it.
If you don't have a partner I think occasional watching and having a rub is okay for a short time, and beneficial to exercise the reproductive system. Time should not exceed ~20 minutes since winding yourself up for longer increases the chances of nocturnal emission a lot.

The "porn" should always be just of a beautiful woman, never hardcore / degenerate shit which always leads to spiraling into paraphilias.

Ideally once you have a partner you stay off porn and enjoy her in moderation, refraining from ejaculatory sex unless trying to have kids.

>>40603626

I have said nothing about cognitive dissonance. There are no IDs on here so I'm assuming you think I'm the other poster. I agree with him for the most part though.

I've been in dozens of these SR threads over the years on multiple different boards. Organic users( as opposed to paid bad actors) tend react in a manner that you see with drug addicts.

They often get angry and defensive when its suggested that turns out maybe blowing your load everyday and watching porn isn't good for you physically, mentally, and spiritually.

The difference is most people know drug addiction is bad for them. They just do it anyway. I suspect many people have gone their whole life with the impression masturbation and porn isn't detrimental in any way really. Its viewed as one of the few non-harmful pleasures in this life. So people don't care to be told that isn't the case.

>>40603633
>God doesn't owe nobody anything. You have to get your feet out of your door and be earnest in procuring what you want
The God you're talking about expects men to have a wife that regularly consistently has sex with them to avoid sin like masturbating and only taking short breaks from sex that both people agreed to so they can pray. Be honest for once here and admit that's what's written in your religion and men can't expect to get that just because they worked hard towards it and frustrated themselves further. Stop talking about shit you don't understand and maybe you and your religion wouldn't look so bad.

NEW BAKE

>>40603693

>>40603664
No the natural desires are getting horny or wanting to have sex, fapping is the coping mechanism that's actually available while actual sex isn't. It's a modern extension of the natural desire that couldn't be justified if the natural outlet was available or reliable.

>>40603675

This is incompatible with SR and counter productive. If you feed the "serpent" it grows.

>>40603677
>The God you're talking about expects [HEADCANON].

Forget God, think about your own soul. If you love gooning so much, then goon 5 times a day for one month straight. Report the situations that happened with you meanwhile and the mental states you were in and then answer will be clear. Bye.

>>40603695
>No the natural desires are getting horny or wanting to have sex
Which is an habit based on imagination, you're wrong from the outset so you will just keep doubling down ad infinitum, thus this is my last reply see ya.

>>40603676
Even if fapping is harmful so is being alone and not having a reliable woman to fuck irl as you were forced by your body/nature/God etc to want. That's just life, you make the best you can out of a situation. Fapping is just another example of this. People are angry and defensive because besides you people typically being judgemental and pretentious about this practice you don't offer healthy alternatives or solutions to the problem. You're not going to help and we all know you people don't actually care the slightest about these coomers well-being so what the fuck does it matter?

>>40603499
The bible has changed a lot since Genesis. The role of women wasn't to be a breeding machine either which you also got wrong. Women were supposed to be a helper. The new testament also talks about eunuchs and it being better for some people to not marry at all. Also yes I am accusing you of being a demon because you are producing bad fruit and sowing bad seeds. Im rebuking you because you were the one being arrogant and malicious. You are accusing Christians of not understanding the word of God and you are so off the mark its unreal.

What do you want me to say? Is a Christian supposed to say "I love you brother and everything you are saying is right?" No because you are flat out wrong, and leading other people to sin and are encouraging it. You are being rebuked. Someone close to God obeys his commands. I was once like you so I get it, and will treat you with that grace, but im not going to agree with being a gooner as Gods intended design for us.

>>40603713
I'll do you better obnoxious coping semen retention fag. I went a whole month not fapping and still felt like shit. But you have cope answers for that too I'm sure. I could probably get you to admit loneliness isn't good for your mental health in another setting, but just to be right in this instance I know you fags will argue it's completely fine.
>>40603720
It's a habit based on a really old need that's already there. You really will ignore the most basic truth to try winning an argument. Pathetic bitches

>>40603752
>The role of women wasn't to be a breeding machine either which you also got wrong. Women were supposed to be a helper
I didn't argue for women to be breeding machines and what I said wasn't just about Genesis when Corinthians also mentions the importance of sex outside of just breeding, I argued your religion says they were supposed to help their husbands or men sexually. You're calling me a demon but you're the nasty bitch lying about what I said.

>>40603752
>>40603804
The nasty bitch who not only tried to put words in my mouth but tried and failed to cherry pick parts of their religion to control my behavior and prove why I'm beneath you. All you faggots are getting exposed.

>>40603737

Of course I care and am EXPRESSLY here to help. I care about this topic greatly because of the dramatic impact it has had on my life. I've been researching and practicing SR for nearly a decade. I'm on a 2 year streak roughly right I don't count the days.

What questions do you have? Please ask away. Anything at all you want to know is on the table.

I listed some advice in this tagged post below when people mentioned blue balls and soreness.

>>40597874

>>40598012


The alternative is to over come the urge and work to open the energy centers in the body which require various physical exercises, life style changes, and unburdening yourself from past mental trauma. Seek God/Jesus Christ and have faith. Be reborn.

Eventually you no longer will have any side effects nor will you have the urge or desire. You will control it and it won't control you. The itch leaves you and instead you are just energized and at peace.

>>40603827
If you believe in that God why do you expect me to accept retaining indefinitely? I've already argued about this for most the last half of this thread.

>>40603820
>>40603804
You are so mad right now. I am literally not effected. I was merely pointing out how you have misinterpreted Gods design for humans and how you have cherry picked parts of the bible and twisted and contorted them into your will.

You seem to have this idea that I am putting myself above you. That thought doesn't even enter my mind. All I see is that you are encouraging bad behavior, and then you get mad when I call it out and attribute this to me being hollier than thou. I just don't think men should be jerking off, and that God designed women and gave her a certain nature for a purpose. You just seem to be hung up on sex sex sex.

>>40603868
>If you believe in that God why do you expect me to accept retaining indefinitely? I've already argued about this for most the last half of this thread.

I don't expect you to retain indefinitely if you don't want and mentioned it here briefly.

>>40603514
>Making love to a woman you are married to is fine and your prerogative but losing the seed however done will diminish certain abilities and if an addiction will be incredibly damaging to you physically, mentally, and spiritually.


Fall in love, get married, and be fruitful and multiply if that is your prerogative. Its a worthy goal. That being said some spiritual abilities require SR and to deny yourself.

Regardless, masturbation and porn will always diminish a person physically, mentally, and spiritually.

>>40603882
You are so dumb right now. You literally have no point besides lying about what I said or saying "u mad". I quoted the bible that's supposed to be your God's word and you just cherry pick it or deny it. Sex is important and not just about breeding, the only mention of breeding was the one part of the official word because that's one part of sex. Maybe ask yourself why as a Christian you can't accept or understand your own word. That's cognitive dissonance.

>>40603910
You do expect that because what you encourage doesn't translate to what's available. And you're still limiting it by saying to watch out for or fear ejaculation with that hypothetical woman because of missing out on some vague spiritual powers that probably don't even exist. You're saying it's damaging anyway unless you infinitely edge while with your own wife. For fucks sake you people are ridiculous

>>40603942

Its obvious you are arguing in bad faith because anyone can read the comments I wrote and your interpretation of them which are wildly of course.

I simply made statements.

Porn & masturbation=bad & unhealthy

Fall in love, get married, have children=good but does diminish one physically, mentally, and spiritually in some manners.

Its not as bad as the above as women can be a near infinite well of sexual energy. Its reactive though and must be activated through intense, immerse, loving intercourse where you are truly in union. Casual sex will not produce the state I'm speaking of. It requires both partners to open their energy centers and overcome mental traumas and blocks.

Seeking spiritual enlightenment and benefits=SR is required

People will now read those, choose, and reap the consequences and effects appropriately

>>40603992
off course*

>>40603992
>Its obvious you are arguing in bad faith because anyone can read the comments I wrote and your interpretation of them which are wildly of course
No
>>40603910
>>Making love to a woman you are married to is fine and your prerogative but losing the seed however done will diminish certain abilities and if an addiction will be incredibly damaging to you physically, mentally, and spiritually.
You're literally saying even if I were to find a suitable woman that it would be bad for muh spiritual abilities to fully enjoy sex and orgasm or if it's an "addiction" it's even worse, when addiction just means depending on it to feel good or having negative effects if you don't have it which is just normal when it comes to sex and happens ANYWAY. You're adding problems to something that's supposed to be enjoyable for "spiritual enlightenment".

>>40604044
>You're literally saying even if I were to find a suitable woman that it would be bad for muh spiritual abilities to fully enjoy sex and orgasm

Such is life and different paths provide different things.

Both are worthy goals or life styles. Worship God, find a woman & fall in love, get married, and have children.

or

Live akin to a monk, Worship and put your main focus on God, and reap other benefits.

You choose. Regardless, porn and masturbation are damaging and should be avoided.

Orgasm through loving sex with a woman you are in true union with isn't as damaging as casual sex or masturbation but not as good as SR in some aspects.

Spilling your seed in any way does lessen your life force. As you get older it takes much more time to recover. I've found that the longer the streaks its a compounding effect so to speak.

Porn and masturbation mess you up in a multitude of ways though and provide no benefit only harm

Again I'm not really casting judgement as opposed to telling you reality whether you choose to accept or not.

>>40604112
>Spilling your seed in any way does lessen your life force. As you get older it takes much more time to recover
Yet there's old men who spill regularly without issue and young guys who can't do it as often. It's more likely damage and the weakened stamina you're talking about happens through the environment and general unhealthy lifestyles lacking things like good food or water or sleep than just fapping or otherwise spilling seed being the cause.

>>40604200
>>40604200

No spilling the seed is a massive factor. If you seek any serious spiritual benefits its required.

It IS the prana and life force energy or the precursor to it. Your life force energy either manifests as prana circulating in the body or forms physically as semen as you expel it essentially. Other factors determine its quality/strength and how well it flows throughout the body.

Many people are so riddled with stimulants and drugs in modern times as well they simply mask any reduced physical stamina with those things in the short term over the course of years

>>40603701
Well, if your goal is complete monk mode / spiritual ascension, that is probably true. But for most people who want intimacy with a partner + have children, I think I've described healthy moderation which actually maximizes enjoyment. I've practiced such moderation for ~5 years now and have experienced a world of benefits compared to when I was spilling seed every few days.

>>40604242
But why can people do so much while regularly releasing if it's so bad for you? Why don't they all die at like 50? You can have people who have more stamina and strength without drugs because of fixing physical actually measurably things in life. What even are these spiritual benefits you keep talking about to justify eternal edging? It would have to be amazing and live up to the hype to be worth such effort but it should also be easy enough to point to people showing it works.

>>40604264
>I've practiced such moderation for ~5 years now and have experienced a world of benefits compared to when I was spilling seed every few days
What have you done that a man who releases couldn't do?

>>40604264

No porn and masturbation have absolutely no benefit, only lead to harm, and for most will just spiral into excess.

Sure moderate use is better than excessive use and zero use is far better than any amount.

That is literally how all vices work. "Just do a little what's the harm?" Lol Turns out the harm is great

>>40604292
What is the harm exactly then?

>>40604278

Refer to

>>40598012

>>40603094

I can make a whole write up of benefits and may when I return but I'm about to go on a walk. Check the new thread for it.

>>40604305

Check the new thread in awhile I'll make a post on it or I'll make a new one if it gets archived before I return. There is plenty of harm. Also just through this thread there is plenty of posts about it here as well but I can be more direct with it

>>40590566 (OP)
picrel
Nice overall thread, some decent information, lot's of conflicting information or incomplete information, quite a few groomers and shills which for some reason always feel attracted to nofap threads.
It would go a mile if the OP contained valuable grounded information, the metaphysical hype bullshit all it does is create unattainable expectations for most anons, ending in a relapsing loop, plus add hints to identify and disengage said shills and groomers.
And if some of the more experienced nofappers would care for the few nofaps threads that pop in /adv/ once in a while, that'd be awesome too because contrarians just for the sake of it are even worse there.
Thread's seems about to expire btw.
>>40604305
Are you seriously asking what is the harm in watching porn and (over)masturbation in a nofap thread?

>>40604315
So you literally say it's not semen retention because the people just doing that don't experience the same things. What you mentioned are empathy, detoxing your body physically, meditation and confronting your past. There's also the mention of devices being used by tesla. That's not semen retention. I don't know about your specific type of mediation experience but people have experienced similar things and lucid dreaming without retaining. They might use an aid like listening to a certain frequency but again this isn't semen retention.

>>40604376
>Are you seriously asking what is the harm in watching porn and (over)masturbation in a nofap thread?
Yeah since they're saying there's no benefit to it and there's this great harm being done I want to hear what this is compared to their recommendation of eternal edging even in a relationship for things outside of semen retention

>>40604376
>and (over)masturbation
They're talking about any masturbating

>>40604383

I said the physical manifestation of prana or life force energy is semen. All spiritual abilities essentially require it. If you expel it you are wasting the most integral piece of the puzzle. SR is KEY.

Those aren't even the best benefits. Reread the posts you replied to.

Meditative prayer as mentioned in the post tagged below which you replied too even.

The Jesus Prayer.

>>40598012

>>40604288
Asking this indicates that you have not experienced 3+ weeks without spilling seed. You aren't out of the haze of prolactin until that time, and it's an entirely different state of mind once you are.

>>40604397
>asking what is the harm
Do you go to a AA meeting and ask them what's harmful about a few beers?
>>40604417
>any masturbating
It's all the same because anons having issues with it seldomly lead a healthy life, if they did they wouldn't even be masturbating, but It's the combo with porn that makes it so damaging.

>>40597371
>>40597722
>>40602476
>Seems like alcohol is a trigger for me.
Just ask yourselves, why? What is it about
Al-cohol
Al-khul
Al-ghul
Al-Ghoul
that makes you feel so uninhibited to "reset"
>>40597371
>I need to figure out how to enjoy a drink
You just don't, have a deeper problem, although a hangover denotes an excess your liver was not able to handle, you might not be a full blown alcoholic but you are still addicted to your own endorphins.
The more you feed it the harder and more complex it will be for you to get out of it all.

>>40603520
Swallow my semen

>>40603334
you're the one here throwing a hissy fit over people choosing to abstain.
idk maybe your brain "needs more chemicals" or something lmao. nonetheless you're seeking them in the wrong thread, bubs.