Thread 40837006

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>>40820985

Welcome to the Semen Retention General!

>What is Semen Retention?
Semen retention is the practice of completely abstaining from masturbation and ejaculation, often with the intention of preserving and redirecting vital and sexual energy to oneself.

>What's the difference between a clean retention streak and a dirty retention streak?
A clean streak means no 'peeking' aka actively looking up porn or erotic images you usually use to fap. If you do that, it becomes a dirty streak. This also includes thinking to horny thoughts or past sexual experiences. In a dirty streak you peeked and might have even touched yourself but you did not ejaculate, thus the streak continues in that regard but becomes 'dirty' for those days. If you ejaculated the retention streak ends. You should always strive for a streak that is clean in both thoughts and actions.

>Why do it?
Reported benefits include: increased vitality, mental clarity, reduced stress, increased motivation, increased energy, improved focus, healthier hair/skin/eyes, deeper meditation, improved AP/Lucid Dreams, deeper voice, improved mood, greatly improved testosterone, improved physical strength and many more.

>Wet Dreams?
They happen because you had a sexual dream and you coomed. Learn to be conscious on your dreams and stop the succubus.

>What causes wet dreams?
The causes are many: Illnesses, telepathic bad actors fucking with your dreams, excess energy build up, watching too much sexually-inducing stuff, lusting during the day, lack of an adequate transmutation activity, eating too late at night, excess nutrients overall, stimulants like maca, ginseng, ginger, excess protein, excess carbs, tight clothes (pajamas) for bedtime, bad sleeping posture (this varies, find the one that suits you best), going to bed with full bladder, exposure to hormonal disruptors via food (pesticides...) or body care products (soap, deodorant etc)...

Was searching, finally. What is a good book that's short and insightful?

>>40837006 (OP)
shills create threads without the important stuff so here you go

>In case of urges:
- https://imgur.com/gallery/g4eGH
- Don't peek and Hold your breath for as long as you possibly can. The urge usually pass after that. If not, repeat.
- Horse stance or chair pose: Do it while clenching the abdomen and all legs' muscles, raise arms for extra blood flow redirection. Works both for killing erections or urges.
- Any physical activity.

On long clean streaks many report benefits that transcend current science like a sort of "magnetism" or higher "vibration/aura" that attracts/appeals to other living beings, a higher perception, a stronger and intimidating "aura/presence", a deeper connection with nature, an attractive BO (people usually report it as "pheromones") and more.

>Advices:
- Mental Purity 1.1: Semen Retention acts as a bio-electromagnetic amplifier. Watch the quality of your thoughts because your inner state will get amplified and manifested. Lust is the Ojas killer. Do not engage with Lust.
- Mental Purity 1.2: Keep a journal as a tool for introspection.
- NEVER watch porn of any kind.
- Remove triggers from your life. Masturbation is a bad habit. Break that bad habit.
- Focus on achieving a goal. An art, a craft, competing, etc.
- Meditate and/or Pray Daily. Try a minimum of 5 minutes to start off.
- Exercise/Gym/Sports/Martial Arts. If it is something social even better.
- Good habits like healthy eating, water fasting, dry fasting, sun exposure and cold showers do seem to speed up the process.
- Sublimation: literally using the energy.
- Transmutation: changing the quality of energy to something different. (Surya Namaskara, 8 brocades, Tibetan rites)

>>40837023
Keep in mind that the efferent nerves attached to your testes necessarily means that any lustful thought, image, or sound is necessarily a command to your junk to produce sexual fluids and this is the reason why celibacy is first and foremost of the mind
The root of this entire matter is the mind - without conquering the mind, celibacy is a futile effort
The signals from the brain happen on the subconscious autonomic level
This is why any lustful thought, image, or sound is necessarily a command to the sexual organs to produce sexual fluids (the more intently you look, the higher amplitude of a signal gets sent: body > afferent nerves > brain > efferent nerves > body)
Therefore "Conversion of sexual energy to something" is necessarily a HORRIBLY inefficient process (Not to confuse with Sexual Transmutation)
Fluids will be reabsorbed, but the energy and materials cost to make it vs how much is "taken back" via reabsorption is SEVERELY unbalanced and super net negative
Sexual fluids are made from the cream of the crop of the body's resources - constantly generating them means that you are constantly draining away the cream of the crop of your resources.
Taoist writings said that the sexual organs will even take primacy over nourishing your other internal organs at some point. (Thus, doing a spiritual practice as a coomer is a surefire way to die faster).

>/SRG/ interesting reads
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>>40837028
Periodic changes in serum testosterone levels after ejaculation in men
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12506329/

Influence of abstinence and ejaculation-to-analysis delay on semen analysis parameters of suspected infertile men
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7114956/

Improved sperm kinematics in semen samples collected after 2 h versus 4-7 days of ejaculation abstinence
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28531319/

Influence of a short or long abstinence period on semen parameters in the ejaculate of patients with nonobstructive azoospermia
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11532469/

Seasonal changes in breeding activity, testicular size, testosterone concentration and seminal characteristics in rams with long or short breeding season
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6706874/

Shorter abstinence decreases sperm deoxyribonucleic acid fragmentation in ejaculate
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21924714/

Endocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm in healthy men following a 3-week sexual abstinence
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11760788/

Relationship between sexual satiety and brain androgen receptors
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17268169/

A research on the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12659241/

>>40837034
It’s always good to remember why /x/ is the most accurate place for this topic: semen retention is one of the clearest paranormal inducing thing of all the other topics discussed on /x/. It’s a sacred practice that has been the one of the main focuses in every major religion or spiritual practices. The mystical side of it is what we try to focus on in here.

Semen retention can be political issue too and it would then belong to /pol/. The porn industry is a tool made by the jews to deterioate the societies and corrupt the people. The porn works in ways that program new sets of behaviour in its audience and the audience is hooked to it because of its strong addictive qualities. The most important goal for porn’s male audience was and is the releasing of their semen. As we now know, the disadvantages of cooming are heavy: a man becomes less of a man, he gets sick and weak, his mind numbed, he will have impotence issues etc. Also his spirit almost dies.

Semen retention is beneficial to make one healthier and stronger, more fit, if you will. So the topic could be discussed on /fit/. Anyone looking for more ways to get fitness gains would benefit hugely from the SR.

Also the SR has so many other benefits that it could be discussed in the /adv/ board. These would be topics how it improves one’s social life, mental state, makes more time to be more productive etc.

But I think the biggest benefits of SR are something mystical in nature and the whole practice is fundamentally something very close to spiritual side of things. All the other topics in here /x/ are left far behind and SR actually makes this board of any relevancy. This is also known by the enemy and they make strong efforts to suppress, hijack, twist and end this discussion.

*cums*

Biological interactions happen when people view porn, causing men to experience erections and women to experience dilated genitals and lubrication from the vaginal walls (NHS, 2016; NHS, 2016). However, psychological changes also occur. fMRIs revealed that when men watch porn, elevated activity in the ventral striatum can be observed where the brains reward-system releases dopamine, the neurotransmitter responsible for pleasure (Hess, 2017; Simpson, 2017). The amygdala (the brain portion responsible emotional behaviour and motivation), also activates when viewing porn (Gola et al., 2015), both of which activates the brains reward-pathway which influences conditioning towards desiring a certain stimulus again - a process which can lead to pornography addictions (Hess, 2017). Furthermore, those who view greater amounts of porn also have lesser volumes of grey matter (The Guardian, 2014). Whilst this finding does not suggest causation, it is important to note that the average age of males who start viewing pornography for the first time is 10 years old – an age where critical brain-development is still in the process (Hess, 2017). Therefore structural brain differences/damage could reflect consequences of pornographic use.
https://www.theroompsy.com/psychology-sex-identities-society/The%20Problem%20With%20Porn:%20Heteronormativity%20&%20Gender-roles

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/

https://personandidentity.com/transgenders-connection-with-pornography-its-undeniable/

https://genspect.org/porn-the-great-identity-interrupter-no-one-wants-to-talk-about/

https://www.womenarehuman.com/pornographys-influence-on-transgenderism-the-proliferation-of-sissy-hypno-on-social-media/

https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/episode-179

https://lifehackerguy.com/how-to-do-dopamine-detox-the-right-way/

>>40837006 (OP)
Love this thread, day 0. Did 10 minutes of meditation today which turned to 30 with a mental practice of the Middle Pillar. There was some good advice in the last thread about sleeping to sleep and not to ruminate, I'm going to use that.

SR is officially dead. You kept larping how this is a contrarian movement, anti establishment, etc. And now they are banning porn in one of the most cucked countries in the world. UK probably became one of the biggest shitholes and they banned porn, If fapping was really that bad they would be the last country to ban it. It is over for you SR bros and your movement is dead. There is no comeback from this and no amount of cope can refute the fact that UK somehow seeks control by banning porn, not letting it free.

Day 93

>>40837006 (OP)
im on day 9 today and the day and yesterday have been fucking miserable. Day 1-7 I had a lot of energy and drive, likely due to the testosterone surge in the first week of not jerking off. But on day 8 and today I have lost all the energy I had, im tired all day, have no real motivation for anything, and overall just feel numb and empty.

This isnt a life style issue because im sleeping the exact same amount and eating the exact same things and I’ve been going to the gym and shit for the same amount of time but I just feel so tired. At what day mark does this tiredness go away and my energy gets back to normal.

>>40837104
This isn't a 'movement'. Celibacy has been a key tenet of spirituality for millennia.

>>40837166
You don't know energy until day 30. You don't know true energy until day 100.

I can tell you with absolute certainty and confidence that the "real benefits" start only after 90+ days. Why do I say that? Because the benefits you feel at 30 days in are a 110% more real and intense when you reach the three month mark. It almost feels as it's absolutely normal to feel that good and smooth.

>>40837236
so i have to just sit here and wait 21 more days until i dont feel like a lazy potato anymore

>>40837006 (OP)
I WILL POST NY BARE NAKED TITS.
RIGHT HERE.
RIGHT NOW.
MY FAT SIZE DD, MILKY WHITE MOUNDS, DOLLOPED WITH ERECT LITTLE PINK NIPPLES.
JUST FOR YOU.

>>40837104
Sounds like a mutherfuckin win to me lil chuddie. Keep tapping your lil worthless dick to superior men hahahaha

>>40837104
They banned it? I thought they just required age verification to access it?

Retainer levels:
>newbie: jacks off less but didn't stop being a degenerate
>apprentice: understands the filth behind self rape but keeps breaking streaks when challenged
>intermediate: not only over a month on streak, he also plans to stop counting since he decided to quit masturbation for good
>future sage: months clean, learns breathing techniques to avoid turning into a sex pest
>true retainer: clean mind and daily breathing are his daily bread
>alchemist: found a wife to practice orgasm less love making

>>40837370
what are some good breathing techniques? I tried doing that Wim Hoff shit but almost passed out

>>40837166
Would you do it if there was no benefit?

>>40837236
You know what feels better than that?
Busting huge nuts on a pair DD size of bouncy white tiddies!
Oohhhhh it feels so good when it spurts out so smooth and hot!>>40837324

>>40837104
You forgot to call SR a cult and also to try and scare us with prostate cancer, up your game dude!

>>40837104
You're either retarded or ignorant.
I'm not sure what one is worse.

>>40837370
>Retainer levels:
Is it like a game?
The higher you level, the harder it is to level up?

Finally made it over 30 days, the entire month of July was totally free from all fapping. The longest I've gone before this was 4 months from late 2018 into 2019.

Something I've noticed is I view women in a more pure sense subconsciously, every time I see a girl in public I have a thought of "She's so pleasant, I'm glad women exist" but not in a romantic way, just in a caring/appreciative way or something like that. It's wonderful and I urge more (incel) men to try SR because it'll change their attitude towards women in general.

>>40837376
Didn't start breathing myself but research testicle breathing. U can also put pranayama on tube for some easier techniques to start off.

>>40837399
The early levels are easy. U stop watching porn, thinking about boobies and quit touching yourself. Then u find time for breathing in order to avoid energetic damage from not spend power. The final step - finding a lifelong partner of opposite gender that will accompany you in journey to Eden is so hard only few will undertake let alone finish successfully.

>>40837378
I would because I dont like being a porn addict

>>40835281
Wanted to reply to poster in the last thread.
Where I live there are these big harmless flies. They like to sit on your skin and lick. I go out when it's sunny for 15 minutes to sunbathe and usually one or two of those flies will hop around my limbs.
I was on a long streak and literally 20 of these flies appeared and were hopping around on me.
That evening I happened to relapse, and when I sunbathed at the exact same time the following day, maybe one or two flies appeared. Nothing else changed.

There was also the case of a guard dog who I passed every day who would only bark at me in the days following relapse.

I really believe that there's a difference with a man's energetic field while retaining vs not, and that animals and humans can pick up on it.

>>40837427
Woah there guy, that's kinda gay.

>Would you do it if there was no benefit?
It's so incredibly easy to identify kosher hypotheticals.

>>40837522
Brother, read this from another persons perspective and you sound genuinely insane

>>40837647
Yeah but read it from another long-term retainer's perspective and it makes complete and perfect sense. You're just out of the loop.

>>40837651
Nah.
>You're just out of the loop.
No I'm not.

>>40837647
SR making these guys go insane, thats why science keeps saying masturbation is healthy, reduces stress and mental illness

>Would you do it if there was no benefit?

>No I'm not.

>SR making these guys go insane, thats why science keeps saying masturbation is healthy, reduces stress and mental illness

>>40837688
You can also shut the fuck up with your anti-sr slop.
>reduces stress and mental illness
Increases mental illness and doesn't actually reduce stress long term

You faggots are retarded.

>>40837695

>No I'm not.
I'm on 200+ days, not my fault you've lost touch with reality and can't see that your post about flies is fucking retarded.

>>40837722
>I'm on 200+ days
I'm truly happy for you. Hope you keep going and succeed in all your endeavors.
I'm not the fly poster btw.
Friendly fire I guess.
Wagmi

>>40837722
>200+ days
>flies not attracted to you
NGMI

>>40837647
Also birds will come closer to me when I'm on a long streak.
this is /x/ btw

>>40837887
Burds, lizards, dragonflies... I've experienced it too. Maybe that other anon isn't as good when it comes to pay attention and pattern-noticing, which is fine, each of us are in a different line of evolution.

>>40837887
Ok, flies barely have brains, they barely interact with the consciousness field meaning they won't react to you, you probably just smelt like shit

>>40837688
>SR making these guys go insane
Then why do I feel more level headed and mentally stable than ever before? That's insane to you?

>>40837370
Kek what level am i
>married + 3 kids
>20 months SR
>Last coom impregnated wife and made my 3rd kid
>sexless for the foreseeable future (wife damage from births)

>>40837892
There could also be a difference in the creature reactions based on the person's attitude towards them. SR could amplify the negative attitude signal, making them avoid.

>>40838017
I bet it has to do with the fight or flight thing. That anon may be tense and the animals surrounding him can sense his tension, therefore not approaching.

anyone notice hair falling out or getting acne after a relapse? I always get 2-3 little beard hairs falling out

>>40838065
>be on day 12
>couldnt fall asleep
>jerk off once and go to sleep
>Wake up
>Many severely red and quite sizeable pimples pop up around my face
>Before the relapse my face was finally starting to clear up
I havent noticed hair falling out but my acne gets really shitty if I relapse

>>40837166
I like reading this.

The difference is like day and night.
My first 10 days I felt so confident, socially smart, felt good on the mirror and all the benefits we know.
Then on day 11 flatline hit me like a rock. I felt as if that’s how a woman must feel on her period.

After the flatline which felt like a 2-3 days, I started gradually feeling better but nothing like the first 10 days.
Now I’m on day 33 clean. (Lately been struggling not to think of lustful thoughts, but besides that I haven’t touched my peepee at all or peeked at anything)

My longest streak was 6 months dirty af.
Funny enough, I was a kiss less hand holdless virgin and on the very next day after I relapsed a girl at my job asked me out. Now I’m just a regular virgin. She started liking me while on the streak, asked every coworker about me but when we started dating I had already relapsed so that’s why I was such a bitch and it didn’t work out. She was crazy but kinda cute. And I’m proud of keeping my virginity. She sat on my lap anons! That shit was crazy obvious and it was only a dirty streak.

I like my life rn after 33 clean days. Hoping to keep it clean till 100 and see the true benefits.

>>40837984
Let wife heal up and go for peak. Redpill her on alchemy before hand ofc.

>>40838247
What exactly is the "alchemy" part of it?

Relapsed and I think I woke up with stigmata on my goon arm. Was already thinking it and I went to my moms house today and there was a mountain bike in the garage with a sticker on it that said stigmata. Spooky bad. Its not worth relapsing and gooning boys.

"This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate in it day and night, that you may observe to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success." Joshua 1:8

>>40838333
>stigmata
>"the law"
>333 trips
...Anon, you know the relationship between all these, right?

>>40838328
Both female and male produce energy in their groins. During sex these energies mix. Now when both of you focus not on cooming but keeping the mixed energy within both of you.

For more info and better explanation check this wall of text >>40837370

Today is day 50 for me.

>>40837006 (OP)
A couple of weeks in and I’m noticing something weird. My sexual fantasies are basically completely gone but in their place are new fantasies that are incredibly violent. I’ll vivid fantasies about torturing and killing child abusers for example. And I will feel the effects of the rage in my body, as if it’s real. I’m not going to act on this of course, but I do find it interesting and I wonder if this my new normal.

>>40837166
I'm on Day 40 and generally still feel shitty, tired, and have headaches. The only gimme here is that energy comes in strong waves but only now and then. I used to be fatigued all the time and the only energy I had was the hour after gooning.
Another thing is that I was all afraid, anxious, and let people walk all over me. Now I have this sort of firm tenacity and don't get mindfucked by people as easily. I'm willing to stand my ground on any issue and be firm, but without being rude or yelling. Like a calm strength I didn't have before.

>>40837006 (OP)
ok i retained my semen. now what?

>>40838570
>if this my new normal.
No, 2 weeks SR is when testosterone peaks, and then it drops back off and you flatline. Make the most of it while you can: lift, do things youre normally too risk averse to do.

https://youtu.be/JU1WAaTSjgI
this is the original video that gave me a profound basis on the esoteric reasons of retaining the vital energy

>>40838664
i have been studying the occult for quite a while now and this is still the most fundamental truth i know- the degeneration of the mind and soul comes from frivolous use of the life force energy. i dont know why reality has been constructed this way but i am just trying to pay attention and be honest

>>40838370
no please aware me. I see 333 everywhere.

>>40838680
what is motivating the average person? how aware are they of their subconscious motivations and what they are; their interconnectedness with the whole?

>>40837440
>>40837142
>>40838493
Nice. Posting this so people can use it, it helps me when I re-read the text on it when I'm feeling week.

>>40838683
i keep seeing 2s and 5s lately. also 1s. anyone know?

>>40838723
furthest i've ever been since i started masturbating. i've done two of this meme now. 181 days. i cannot go back

>>40837522
Thanks for the reply. This field explains sudden attention from men or women, but I didn’t expect animals to be drawn to it too.
Then again, humans are animals too, so I guess it makes sense in retrospect.

>>40838733
I don't know if those are significant, but I looked up 333 and apparently its called an angel number or something. There was a point in my life about 2 years ago where I started seeing 333 for days and then had a manic episode lasting days. At the very end of it I saw angels swooping down from heaven with a babby held in a mothers arms made from fingerprint oil. Not even a couple hours after that I should have died about 3 times. Once from what I think could have been a prescription overdose, then almost getting hit by a car, and finally crashing my car off the highway with no airbags. Seems like I have been in a constant spiritual battle since then. Jesus Christ is my lord and savior, but things have been very weird since that point.

>>40838683
Well in Christianity it's the Holy Trinity. For Jesuits, its like "God's stamp of approval" or sign that you're on the divine path (following God's law).
For esoteric Jews it has something also to do with law, or divine "balance".
Freemasons' 333 is the 3 pillars, 3 "degrees" 3 lights, etc.

>>40838733
Checked.
Here's the basic ideas
>2s
Stuff happening TO you (vs 3s, you're doing the right things), usually for your benefit
>5s
Stuff is changing bigly, in the general sense

rollin

>>40838896
Im trying to follow Gods law the best I can. Taking more time to reflect on every thought and action I do to be obedient to Christ. Find myself holding my tongue more and being more empathetic. Lust has an iron grip on me though but it seems like its loosening. The devil keeps using new tricks though. I imagine this is a pretty big battle if even fallen angels were taking women as wives. I hope and pray God will give me the strength to overcome this issue in my life. When I go weeks of being obedient, life is much better. After a relapse I have a cloud of shame hanging over me and im sure the lights in my eyes begin to dull.

>>40838957
Don't take it so seriously. Consider "God's laws" as being just one path towards divinity, or "Theosis" if you're Christian. The Laws are supposed to help you suppress your animal self and egoistic tendencies so you can connect better to your soul. You can do it your own way and ignore the laws in the literal sense. Stuff like fasting, SR, gratitude during suffering, all bring you closer to your soul + Theosia. Indulging in food sex pleasure brings you the other way, towards being an animal. No need for shame since that's also your animal self. Just move 2 steps forward for every 1 back.

im 13 years old and ovulating

>>40839138
i want to emphasize that government is mind control

do not be moved by the dark ones

40839158
40839162
Oh no, they sent the breadshitting retard pajeet.

>Day 4 no chocolate
>Day 4 no meat
>Day 4 no dairy
>Day 7 of daily working out
>Day 16 of Semen Retention
>Day 80 no soda
>4 Years without Cigs/Nicotine
>2 1/2 Years without Alcohol
>3 years without pills

WAGMI

>>40838585
Do it again tomorrow.

>>40839332
>>Day 4 no meat
Why?
Good job on all btw.

>>40839377
Not that guy, but meat, especially red meat, will increase your libido big time. So not that meat is bad in itself (factory farmed meat is of course bad) but in the context of SR, limiting meat will help you.

>>40837104
They got you addicted to it and now require your live selfie for each viewing of it. How is it banned in any way? Fucking retard

>>40839067
>. Indulging in food sex pleasure brings you the other way, towards being an animal.
strange how no animal >indulges< in food, sex, or pleasure...

>>40839585
animals lack a higher nature, there's no conflict for them.

>>40837006 (OP)
day 7.
my longest streak since starting fapping 23 years ago is 12 days.

Real question - why aim specifically for a clean streak? I’ve been messing with SR for a bit now and found that masturbating using breath control, visualization, and ejaculation-less orgasms is pretty great, all of the pleasure of jerking off and orgasming minus the drawbacks of ejaculating. Instead of feeling tired and unmotivated after, I feel energized and ready to tackle things, like I just had a bit of caffeine or something. If I also haven’t been looking at porn for a while, the pleasure is way way greater than if I was, and it’s way easier to maintain a streak this way without the antsy weirdness you get forcing yourself to not fap even if you’re super horny. Anytime I’ve done a strict clean streak it’s like my dick actively doesn’t want to get it up after a while, which can be kind of depressing. If I fap occasionally without using porn or ejaculating etc, my erections and energy in bed are insane and I feel much more level headed because I’m not trying to avoid some urge. I don’t really see drawbacks to doing things this way unless you’re concerned with being celibate, which I’m really not.

Sperms dies in about 3 days.
Cum in your pants makes your junk smell better.

Something that has helped me control libido is to evoke the name and blood of Jesus Christ. I repeat "The Blood of Jesus Christ is powerful and the evil will not prevail" as many times as necessary until the will leave

>>40839598
Ok, so, it is the action of *indulging* in natural inclinations which are eating to sustain life, sex to procreate, and pleasure to feel joy in life, that is a human animal matter, not a normal animal one.
Deviant behavior comes the path civilization has taken including but not limited to religion, which has led us to the current society we live in, definitely not from natural animal inclinations.

>>40839653
These threads started as a way of helping PMO addicts, those people may not be able to do what you're doing without ejaculating. So a lot of people were doing 'hard mode' or 'monk mode', whatever it is they call it. I also know that a lot will tie in SR with religious practice like within Christianity or Buddhism which recommends celibacy. Many probably just regard masturbation itself as an immoral act that brings feelings of shame.
If you think it's good for you what you're doing then power to you. Have you read The Perfect Matrimony? There may be something in there for you.

>>40839653
>Real question - why aim specifically for a clean streak?
Because most anons coming to SR are also addicted to porn, and because once they get the physical aspects going after a while some eventually feel to aim for deeper and more spiritual purposes, which is why this thread is on /x/.
>all of the pleasure of jerking off and orgasming minus the drawbacks of ejaculating
You are still pumping abnormal amounts of dopamine in your brain, and unless you are like a consumed super master of internal alchemy you are still discharging semen, and risking nasty side effects on top of it.

>>40839332
he just keeps winning!

>>40839653
bcus better things to do than seeking out earthly pleasure

>>40839694
I would agree that there are more wholesome activities one could spend their energy and limited time we have on.

>>40839671
What you described isn't indulging. Indulging is GOONING for hours, binge feeding on sugars and fats, pleasuremaxxing. Fulfilling your animal needs in moderation is great. If you do the opposite of indulge (fast, noFap, limit dopamine activities) you'll become closer to your soul / God / divinity, whatever, because those are subtle and NOT sensory stimulating like the things your animal mind wants to experience. Neither way is good or bad, but it's worth tuning into your soul sometimes. On the other hand going full animal you might as well become a baby boomer.

>>40839671
atheist debater detected.

Its not my job to teach you.

>>40839653
>ejaculation-less orgasm
...wut?

Our Father who art in Heaven,
Hallowed be Thy name,
Thy kingdom come,
Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread;
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever and ever. Amen.

You don't have to masturbate.

>>40839685
I’m not saying whack it every day or something, but in the same way you’d eat if you’re super fucking hungry I don’t think whipping it out will fuck things up too bad up there. A normal sex life is probably way crazier in terms of dopamine release than jerking it with no porn two or three times a week. As for addiction idk I’m more of the mind of moderation but I know for some people that doesn’t work. I used to be a fatass addicted to sweets and would always relapse like a maniac trying to fully abstain. Now I’m a fitness buff and I regularly eat zero sugar treats and drink diet soda and shit. If I’m with friends or on vacation I’ll go nuts on dessert still. I know aspartame and all that shit is poison but man’s gotta live. What kind of side effects tho, prostate problems or something?
>>40839694
Idk I got free time here and there. Besides idk about y’all but I genuinely feel more confident/in my body when I’m not actively suppressing my sexuality. Maybe it’s a personality thing.
>>40839805
Idk it’s a tantra thing I think. You basically get to the point where you’re gonna cum, but when you’re about to you clamp down and imagine the energy running back down and up your spine. Sounds retarded but it works and feels amazing, legit better than just nutting and it being done in two seconds. It’s more of an extended full body thing, especially if you’ve ridden the energy for a bit like a pressure release valve. If you fuck it up you’ll just nut tho but you’ve probably done the same thing without realizing it while having sex and trying not to nut early. When you actually focus on the sensation and let it run throughout your body it feels fantastic, though.

i dont get how this shit is spammed on here daily for years, get a life incels

>>40839681
>Have you read The Perfect Matrimony?
I haven’t but I’m loosely familiar with some of the concepts it seems like it explores. In general I think I’m in the boat that doesn’t see sexuality as inherently immoral, even experienced solo. Depending on one’s essential nature I think it can be more or less important to one’s psyche and development. The real thing is finding a healthy way to channel it imho. For some people that’s becoming a monk or locking down a tradwife and knocking her up ten times. No problem with that. The more technical magical aspects are fun to think about but really I think the real benefit is control. If you’re actively thinking about not doing something every day, having to make charts and shit, is it that much better? Are you really that much more in control of yourself? IMO a lot of the dudes in this thread are trading one problem for another.

>>40840013
This
>>40840072
Neekeri its a general. Its literally one thread at a time. Let people try and improve themselves. Just hide it.

>>40837006 (OP)
Anyone have tips for sleeping? I feel better overall since I started SR but the one area that has gotten worse is sleep. I used to sleep like a baby but now I’m constantly restless, I wake up a lot(usually very horny), and it takes forever to go back to sleep. It’s starting to annoy me

>>40840452
jerk off and ull sleep like a baby. Seriously whats wrong with you guys. You realize its a natural stress reducer and relaxation tool

>>40840452
It doesn't just necessarily gets worse. The extra testosterone increases sleep quality. Practice non-sleep deep rest / yoga nidra and keep your energy / frequency low.

>>40840515
whenever I jerked off before sleep I woke up with a headache and low energy. nice try tho, shlomo

>>40840031
>A normal sex life is probably way crazier in terms of dopamine release than jerking it with no porn two or three times a week.
Yes but there is energy exchange in actual sex vs. jacking off
Your body knows that you're bullshitting when you wank

>>40840452
That happened to me on a dirty streak but it's gone away on my current clean streak, I kept awakening in the middle of the night. At the beginning of the clean streak I had one night where I awoke from a nightmare, which suggests that I may have been having nightmares throughout the dirty streak that I was forgetting, and I also realized that for a long time I experienced a sense of doom whenever I was about to fall asleep; it was probably due to demonic activity on account of the breach between not abusing myself yet having viewed porn.

>>40837006 (OP)
3 days is the limit. My brain is fucked

>>40840691
Never give up you are a child of God

>>40840538
six months my sleep is pretty much the same

>>40840515
You aren't even trying

Day 12.

>>40840452
Don't give in to the night time hornyness. Try to find a breathing exercise that helps you calm down (maybe try Om chanting softly or deep breathes while focusing your mind on something else). Also very important to keep your phone and any other device that can access your goon material far away from your bed to avoid temptation. And pray like others have said.

>>40840072
>i dont get how this shit is spammed on here daily for years, get a life incels

Posters here are the sickest of the herd. If anything surprises you here, you've forgotten where you are.

Remember...

FAP stands for Frustration, Anger, Pain

>>40840815
We need to help them, this is sad, they think they can get magic powers by not touching their cock and they even let 20 flies bite them cause they think its attraction, how can we help this general?

>>40840759
What do you feel so far?

Doing this as a NEET is impossible. Can never get past day 2. I spill myself over myself, like, five times on average daily. My brain feels like mush. Never goon.

>>40840897
im NEET and i have got to day 14 before, though it is almost impossible. i think i should make it to 30+ and beyond to repair myself.

>>40840691
I thought the same too, I got to day 15, now im back to day 5 tho.

>>40840897
https://www.bitchute.com/video/iR91WuYR0PL8

>>40839759
religious cuck recruiter detected.

you have nothing to teach me.

>>40837006 (OP)

About 8 months into SR.

Something changed in my body, I don't feel hungry anymore so I fast all day now.
Sharper mind and focus and then eat 1 massive feast after sun down.

It feels great? Anyone else notice SR caused this natural state of eating to happen to them too?

I have become religious/spiritual from SR and noticed this way of eating is similar to what they do for Ramadan? A bit different because I've been drinking water/black coffee but it is interesting that fasting throughout the day and eating large at night has a parallel to some religious scriptures that say to fast.

Anyone know more about this? Or why this is happening to me?

Mouf. Now.

>>40839729
You, or the other anon, was the one referring to the action of indulging as an animal inclination, not me. It is a human problem to indulge and over indulge, animals do not do that.
Introducing that false notion of blaming "the animal side" for mental and spiritual patterns that come from societal bonds is proper of religion, sex is a sin, and establishment, porn is not harmful, and is problematic for an already confused male wanting to be at peace with the urges instilled in them by the current society, it is misleading.
I've been paying attention and contributing to these SR threads for several months now, and the last few threads have been dense enough that I now happen to find myself wondering what is this SR shit about anyway, is it a platform to teach organized religion? Or is it platform to help desperate folk find a better material and spiritual life?

It was bad enough already with all the trolls desperate to get other men to rub their dicks.

>>40840031
>the same way you’d eat if you’re super fucking hungry
Funny you make that comparison because when you eat healthy and do fasting your body adapts and steadily stops being hungry all the time, in that context to be "super fucking hungry" for real you'd have to stop eating for a week or more until your life is threatened, the same does not happen with masturbation and ejaculation.
If you feel comfortable with the way you do things it's your free will but it's not precisely related to a thread where avoiding masturbation is discussed.

>>40840897
If you think it is impossible, it will be. If you think it is possible, it will be.

>>40837006 (OP)
In a society with no purpose but death, redirecting the energy to what?

>>40841270
nigger you are on /x/, certainly you must believe in something more than just society?

>>40837006 (OP)
Biggest way to success is to stop knowing the right thing to do in a situation and just doing it. Leave your phone outside the bathroom. Put it on airplane mode when you go to bed. Take every thought captive.

>>40841270
society is dumb

I started seeing semen retention as a very important part of a bigger ritual of purification (which now includes meditation, physical exercice and fasting) and it helped tremendously in keeping a rather clean streak. whenever my mind craves pornography I will remind myself of this ritual that takes over every aspect of my life and the cravings stop. This may sound very basic but for me it changed everything

>>40841330
this, but it takes a lot of years for the brain to realise this, when it clicks, then the battle becomes way too easy

My voice is so fucking deep now

Why do people start to hate me the longer I retain? It’s almost like I hear their voice in my head saying “look at this guy trying so hard. Let me see if I can cut him down.”

Doesn't semen retention lead to anger and increase radicalization in the long run?

There's POWER IN THESE BALLS

>>40841436
>increase radicalization
yeah it turns you into an antifa furry

>>40841436
>radicalization
Just being alive and existing is radical.

>>40841376
>it takes a lot of years for the brain to realise this
After years of PMO damage, it takes years to heal that damage, yes.

>>40837006 (OP)
Can I get some support bros.
I'm feeling very unstable as of recently. I have tears in my eyes tonight.

I found god through SR and I prayed for the wrong things early on... I prayed for girls one night... I didn't expect such prayer to be answered but god answered my prayers in full anyway.

I've been gifted many girls and had sex with one but they are wanting more and it's highly conflicting.

I am human... I thought I had control of my sexual desires. I beat gooning completely. Don't even think about self pleasure anymore but the feminine energy is so strong. I feel I'm going to continue to have sex now that it has been gifted to me. I don't know if I'm not strong enough to best Mara.

What would Jesus do? What would god say? What would Krishna or Buddha say? How or should man say no to such female energies? Or should one embrace it but keep it to moderation like once a week?

I know I am on the right path but the path can lead many astray. So here I am asking for moral and spiritual guidance

Thank you bros

Day 20. I can feel my body craving the dopamine hit when under stress. I tell my body that we don't need PMO hits anymore. We can handle this stress just fine. I can feel my brain reward pathways changing slowly but surely.

>>40841482
>How or should man say no to such female energies?
Bro had sex and is losing his mind lmao. Read The Uncoiled Serpent, retard.

>>40841482
Jesus would get the fuck out of the house and go for a walk

It has been 2 weeks

>>40841399
mine is the same, SR isn't doing any of the "automatic" shit for me

>>40837104
The chuds are running the prison planet. Holy based

>>40841542

Alright, will read it.Thanks bro.
And it's not about the sex, was on a year celibacy going strong and my dumbass lost to the temptation of a girl offering sex so easily...

And different girl. - my co worker today text me saying she wants to give me all her holes. This magnetism shit is becoming unreal, the more I ignore women the more aggressive they become.

The issue I noticed is this is conflating my ego. I need to not fall into traps. Yes I'm fucking retarded. Agree with you on that one. It's so easy to forget the higher path in the face of such temptations.

>>40840897
I'm on Day 41 as a NEET. It is possible, and in a way it adds fuel to the fire being a NEET burnout who hasn't done anything in 10 years while my peers are crypto millionaires, software engineers, and making six figures sending emails twerking from home. It feels like I missed the bus and now I need to make a big comeback.
Not to impress them because I'll probably never see them again, but to reach my full potential just because I can.
I was a GATE kid in AP classes always seen as "bright" and ended up nowhere.

>>40841733
Look for a wife and stay away from fast women. You're a good lad, you'll be alright son.

>>40839653
Tried this. Feel great. Imagination only no porn. Then the death pose to seal the energies in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cevA-d7NyNg
just posted today, when I started taking sr serious again for the last few days. must be a sign

>>40841921
>>40841921
>while my peers are crypto millionaires, software engineers, and making six figures sending emails twerking from home.
stop this shit dude, all of that stuff is just as meaningless and gay if not more so than being a NEET. do you think the average npc is happy? they're not and they don't even question it.
you didn't miss any bus because there is no bus.

>>40841436
>the long run
You will find radicalized people in all walks of life, in politics, in aa meetings, in SR, there will always be those who want to make it entirely about themselves and their beliefs. And there's angry people everywhere these days, even among coomers, increased tenfold after the lockdowns, every moment there are more, does your logic dictate all those people are on some form of nofap, abstinence, sr or celibacy?

I fucking WISH I was addicted to porn. But no I have a habit of sexting and trading nudes with women. Ive had entire harems of them, hitting them up simultaneously. All whilst being married ffs. I need to break this shit, honestly. Fuck it. Im just hurting everyone with this toxic garbage. Ive broken contact with all of them by now.

>>40842162
that sounds lame as fuck. some streetshitting pajeet or nigerian mudhut nigger is going to blackmail you and ruin your life sooner or later.

Was not really interested in your threads but I recently tried to get into lucid dreaming with recording my dreams into diary and all that stuff. And after I broke my nofap streak I no longer could my dreams upon waking up. Got on nofap again and dreams became more vivid. Interesting.

>>40842200
>no longer could remember my dreams
fix

>>40841482

>feminine energy

You need to realize this is simply demonic forces. Women are designed to tempt you and lead you to darkness. Nothing good will ever come from interacting with them while you are trying to better yourself.

>>40842046
but even NPC man is married

>>40842241
the average relationship and marriage is miserable

>>40841733
I messed up the book's title, pic related is it. You can find a free pdf copy of it easily online.

gives ya ass cancer

>>40842292
where is the evidence for this?

>>40842215
I felt better when I started watching nice girls talk about videogames and stuff, the feminine principle is real and a healthy relation to it is required for good mental health as a man

>>40842162
Many anons think that they will do SR, find a GF / wife and be cooming in her with no worries happily ever after.
Wrong. With every orgasm you are causing habituation - lower dopamine response each time. This is why couples try to "spice things up" trying new things, because dopamine is all about novelty. It's a losing battle, however, which is why infidelity, porn use, etc. are the norm in marriages. After some years together nature intends for you to split and seek new partners to spread your genes - this is the evolutionary purpose of sexual habituation.

Anons in this thread should read "Cupid's Poisoned Arrow" which explains this in detail and the methods to avoid habituation, as well as methods to increase bonding with your partner.

>>40842046
Thanks fren. I guess it's my ego wanting to cling onto material stuff. It just drives me into anger because it feels like they just effortlessly succeed. They just exist and get handed some make work bs job making ridiculous amounts, throw a dart out the window and hit a good stock or crypto that 2x their savings, and stumble into hookups and relationships with women by dumb luck.
My ego envies normies and feels wounded comparing myself to them. It's a shitty thought pattern, a weird FOMO that kicks in. Like they're inside enjoying things and I'm stuck out in the cold suffering, woe is me. Kek.
My only cope is that God designed a different path for me with more twists and turns. And I guess this sounds like an incel rant but I was just recently cutoff from the world of sex through a divorce and now I'm all bitter.

>>40841436
It's better to feel something then to feel nothing.

>>40842393
It's hard to do this if you've already lost the attraction of your wife thru familiarity and habituation. Living together for so long, she witnessed enough of your failures and weaknesses that have accumulated against you and never go away. I just don't see a wife who's already lost her attraction to the husband to even want to attempt anything like this seriously.

Yeah, I'm just not going to do it (masturbate).

Sorry, I don't want to engage in Jewish behavior.

>>40842410
I can guarantee you that you have come across a nugget of pure esoteric knowledge somewhere here on 4chan. That knowledge, whatever it may be, is worth literal millions of dollars.

You are a millionaire of the mind, which is much more valuable than being a millionaire of the currency. In your next existent, currency shall be meaningless in an ascended dimension (5D).

>>40842162
You are more valuable than any other human you come across. Cultivate the mind and soul instead of chasing after pixels of meat and bone.

day 2.
no benefits yet

>>40842200
>>40842205
Regarding vivid dreams and improved imagination/creativity.

Your divine essence nourishes both the body and brain. If you ejaculate, these substances are lost instead of being absorbed by the spine and transferred up to your mind.

Why even spend a single second looking at harmful material on the internet, that thousands of humans will one day look at, when you can retain and experience a personalized dream that is longer, more vivid and easier to recall than any other dream experience.

Your enemies want you weak and stupid. Cultivate strength and passion instead.

>>40842520
The benefits you will enjoy are closer to you now than they were 2 days ago.

If, for example, you start to have vivid dreams on day 9. Then you are only 7 days away from those benefits. However, if you relapse today you will be 9 days away from those benefits.

One immediate benefit you have is that you have found a group of peers who refuse to engage in pornography, masturbation, orgasm. Strength in numbers.

>>40842538
Is it bad to share these personal dreams with others? Especially if they are of an initiatic nature. Is it for instance, against the particular occult virtue of Silence to do so?

>>40842258
if they are miserable then why are they in them?? It sounds like sour grapes to me

>>40841061
Idk about that man, just depends what I’m doing - if I’m bulking I’ll be pretty hungry a lot of the time, if I’m cutting less so. You’re right that your body adapts to some extent but anytime I fast I always eat like a king when I have my first meal. Seriously tho, you’ve never randomly gotten crazy hungry after exerting yourself or eating early, going to bed, and skipping breakfast? I’ve done a two month clean streak just to see what the vibe is and I’d get frustratingly horny, to the point where it was disruptive especially given that I’m wfh. I also didn’t really experience crazy changes. Maybe a little more energy and a more calm demeanor when I’m around people. Women seemed a little more comfortable around me but that’s about it. I currently feel like I’m getting all the benefits, plus the additional pluses of an occasional energy boost and not feeling like I’m punishing myself over natural urges.

>>40842583
Share away, I was riding king kongs back with a bunch of animated characters the other night.

I was also doing coke with connor mcgregor and flying planes.

>>40842491
This is a concern I have thought about if I were to get married, as the saying goes familiarity breeds contempt. I wondered if it would be best to get separate bedrooms like royalty used to have, or at least a split bed, but hopefully the book will give some more insights

>>40842585
because most normies can't be alone and have stockholm syndrome with all their misery and they run on a cocktail of goyslop caffeine and SSRIs, they don't question their life. the birth and divorce rates dont lie, "serial monogamy" has been the norm for generations and it is evolving to merely serial hookups or pure loneliness.

>>40842538
My ops are real quiet today after bothering me for ages, to distract me from the divine service. I wonder if those devils have given up.

Regarding peeking, which is looking at erotic pixels, audio and literature without masturbating. The dopamine receptors will be flooded but without release, which will trap you in both physical and emotional tension.

By frying your dopamine receptors, you will create an imbalance in your dopamine reward system that negatively affects the way you interact with other people. Difficulty maintaining eye contact, the inability to remember conversations after they have taken place, and stuttering in a conversations will be a common occurence.

Peeking leads to a constant dopamine surge that will leave both your mind and body feeling foggy and restless. Energy gains will be inconsistent, your urges will intensify, and you will experience flatlines.

If you refuse to even engage in erotic material, you will not experience flatlines, brain fog, or mental crashes. Your energy will steadily increase, both posture and confidence will improve, and your animalistic urges shall no longer control you.

True progress comes from discipline in both the mind (refusal to look at erotic material) and the body (refusal to touch yourself eroticially).

If you want actual change, stop peeking. Only then will your mind and body start to heal from years of abuse and transform for the better.

>>40842393
>woman writes a book where she explains why being a whore is actually good thing
imagine my shock

>>40841482
i dont believe you

>>40842603
but what if I want to share the effervescent joy of a chaste life and soul with a equally dutiful woman to the bearing of eudaimonic happiness and many children?

>>40842491
Oxytocin is extremely powerful, it actually re-wires the brain. It is the hormone which bonds mothers to children. That bond is made through touch and doesn't fade. It allows you to see past your partner's flaws just like a mother sees past the flaws in her children. The hormones released with orgasm evolved to disrupt relationships by countering the effects of oxytocin. By abstaining from orgasm it is very possible to re-kindle the love and excitement that was once there. Many cases documented in the book of older couples feeling like in teen love again through Karezza practices.

>>40842598
Well this is from what I wrote down that morning.

I was in my old school, with a very tall young man with blonde hair in a 1950's side parting, a slightly hooked nose, or a pointed chin. I was talking to another person about Thelema. He joked about "attaining the highest grade". I asked about Aleister Crowley, and I said he had attained Ipsissimus, and asked if it were true. The tall young man said it was true, and that his writing confirmed it. He said as we walked together through the school that Crowley spent a lot of time here. I asked "In the school?" We went into a sports hall with other students in it. I took money from a collection box in a bag, gave it to the young man, and he gave us (the students) pills to take. I took one, noticed I missed a couple, then took the rest with water.
When I woke up, I felt the sensation of swallowing something like it carried into real life.

Obviously reading it back it seems very 'on the nose', possibly a projection of my subconscious, but since it corresponds with my beginning to study Thelema and my first tarot spread, I assign significance to it and am open to it being something more.

>>40842610
What about thoughts?
The only way my streak is dirty is that I think of cuddling girls while trying to fall asleep.

>>40842688
I can't recall ever having conversations in my dreams, weird. I always just feel everything,

>>40842652
seems kind of irrelevant to the topic

>>40842393
these books always just advocate open relationships, is this the case here too?

>>40842639
She basically wrote that being a whore made her feel unhappy and unfulfilled. Why are you talking shit?

>>40842700
It's hard to accept but the truth is no lust whatsoever will give you the most benefits of semen retention. The lower your lust, the faster the benefits occur and the less likely you are of relapsing and losing these benefits.

If you dream of cuddling before bed, you are preparing your mind to have a sexual dream. Sexual dreams can become wet dreams very easily. The more you practice killing lust in the waking world, the more likely that this will carry over to the astral plane of existence (dream land).

Eventually by killing lust, you can say "No" to these succubi in the astral plane of existence and stop all sexual dreams whatsoever. Monks and other ascended mystics enjoy denying these demons their divine essence and enjoy lucid dreams nearly every night.

>>40842733
No, the book advocates for monogamy and recovering an existing relationship through bonding-based sexual practices.

>>40842738
Because that's how you presented her book.
> After some years together nature intends for you to split and seek new partners to spread your genes - this is the evolutionary purpose of sexual habituation.

>>40842777
based

>>40842779
cool. any examples?

>>40842678
>>40842599
I've been skimming thru the book. First it talks a lot about the cause of the problems, which for most of us married guys is hindsight. Then it goes straight into what couples can do to re-ignite intimacy, skipping over the part about what to do with a female partner who subconsciously loaths you. There's also the fact that with kids your interest in "intimacy" is just overpowered with desire for some peace and relief from pressures to keep everything together.
>separate bedrooms
YES! We've done that since before the 1st kid and it's probably one reason why we're still together. Didn't repair any loss of attraction but I think it stopped things from going further downhill. Separate everything, ideally have your own place outside the house (garage, storage unit, etc.)

>>40842782
I see. I don't think that what nature wants is necessarily a good thing - I think that's where we diverged. Nature wants what has worked (well enough) for hundreds of thousands of years, but modern humans living in civilization, which has only existed for a few thousand years (a very small % of our evolutionary history) are not benefited by all behaviors which worked for the majority of our evolutionary history.

For example, nature wants us to gorge on sweet and fatty foods, because for most of our evolutionary history these foods were rare. Now that these foods are constantly available, following our impulses without restraint leads us to sickness and obesity. It is the same with sex, or sex substitutes (porn) - not restraining ourselves leads to ruin.

>>40842292
Ejaculation literally uses up vital nutrients your body needs for DNA and cell repair, fapping is what gives you cancer.

>>40842610
HUGE, if true.

>last night have extremely vivid dream where I'm in a huge Mario 64 open world
>flying around like I have the wing cap but in first person, swimming in huge water basins, collecting stars, this is so awesome
>suddenly dream shifts to me interacting with a female character in a house
>almost against my will it turns sexual and I almost do something very dirty with her
>realize what's happening and wake myself up immediately
Not today succubus.

>>40842729
What I was trying to say I guess is that the misery of the normie life undermines all the things for which the normie life strives to achieve and maintain, like money, companionship, children, luxury goods and services, the normie world is all about selling false expectations, food that never makes you full, and then wonder why they feel terrible

Remember, the true rulers of this world also practice SR. Coomer politicians are their pawns.

>>40842923
>For example, nature wants us to gorge on sweet and fatty foods, because for most of our evolutionary history these foods were rare. Now that these foods are constantly available, following our impulses without restraint leads us to sickness and obesity.
The weird thing is that it's a conscious self-destruction. Animals follow their instincts to eat but they don't get fat. A lion gets a kill and then sleeps for the rest of the week before looking for another. People feed into their desires, keep eating not because they're actually hungry but because their minds want the dopamine hit, and that translates into a host of other addictive activities.

who /monk mode/ here?

I say NO to the following

>Destroying life (I count orgasms as death)
>Supporting destroying life (eating meat)
>Taking what is not given to me (stealing)
>Negative words, both out loud and in the mind
>Sexual activity (No PMO)
>Drugs
>Music
>Media

I say YES to the following

>Meditation, focusing on the breath
>Lifting weights
>Yoga
>Gratitude journaling
>Mindfulness exercises
>Eat mindfully (Slowly consume food without watching media)
>Repeating mantras which I find useful
>Cleaning my personal living environment

WAGMI

Here is a template for keeping track of your streak. It goes up to 100 days. I can tell you with absolute certainty and confidence that the "real benefits" start only after 90+ days. Why do I say that? Because the benefits you feel at 30 days in are a 110% more real and intense when you reach the three month mark. It almost feels as it's absolutely normal to feel that good and smooth.


You can also use this template to keep track of quitting other various poisons, such as drugs.

>>40843166
Monks enjoy Drugs, Music, Media, eating meat you're just doing a retard run.

>>40843236
t. filthy consumer of poison
>>40843166
Keep up the good work, those practices while enable Lucid Dreaming which is far more enjoyable than any jewish media or filthy drugs.

Day 17. I have realized that all the motivation in the world is completely useless unless I have discipline.

I retain today so I can retain tomorrow.

>>40842877
>what to do with a female partner who subconsciously loaths you
I'm not going to say that all relationships can be saved, but if it can it will be through behaviors which trigger oxytocin. To start, basic stuff like extended eye contact, hand holding, massages, foot rubs, hugs, cuddles, spooning. Even compliments and other words of genuine appreciation can do it.
More closeness leads to more oxytocin, and when not disrupted by orgasmic dopamine/prolactin it builds and builds.

>>40842821
From the book:
>- Touching and sucking of nipples and/or breasts
>- Several moments of chest-to-chest, skin-to-skin contact
>- Gently placing your palm over your lover's genitals with intent to comfort
>- Several moments of synchronized breathing
>- Cradling, or gently rocking, your partner's head and torso for at least five minutes
>- Gazing into each other's eyes for several moments
>- Holding, or spooning, each other in stillness for at least twenty minutes to a half-hour
>- Several minutes of stroking with intent to comfort
>- Several minutes of hugging with intent to comfort

The basis is of sex as a relaxation activity, not an athletic performance.
Intimacy does not depend totally on penis in vagina, but when it's done most time is spent in stillness rather than motion.
Erection will come and go, that's fine. It's all about feeling each other's energies and the union of these.

>>40843166
incredibly BASED. Seriously

>>40843048
>A lion gets a kill and then sleeps for the rest of the week before looking for another.
That's because the hunt was a big effort. If you tossed a fresh gazelle carcass at their feet daily they would become obese.

>>40837236
>two more days
Not jerking off really lowers the bar, nothing like getting that post nut clarity after a quick jerkoff and going right back to business being thankful you're not chasing pussy like a virgin creep

https://x.com/coldhealing/status/1951344328951079112

Guy in screenshot genuinely trying to stop fapping, half the comments are mad or mocking him. Shows you where most people stand...

>>40843613
normies gonna norm

>>40843613
Lol this is a new one

>>40843649
>penis disuse atrophy is a real thing.
I wash my benis every morning in the shower which includes me scrubbing it.. am I going to be okay lads?

>>40842215
>severe case of astral cooties
You must be 18+ to post on this site.

>>40843546
>If you tossed a fresh gazelle carcass at their feet daily they would become obese.
Your only knowledge of animals comes from a zoo, eh?

Failed again bros.

A lot of people ask about benefits in these threads but the retention itself is a benefit
>>40843166
meat is based you vegan larping fuck. The only thing you have in common with monks is that you're both starving

>>40843752
how many days did you make it?

>>40843826
only 9 days

>>40837006 (OP)
I keep failing bros

>>40843782
I'm a pureblood, I just don't want to take it (mRNA vaccines)
and I will not take it (mRNA vaccine)
>they inject your meat with it
>you're eating filth
>you're eating tainted meat
>you are what you eat

>>40843870
“Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time.” Thomas Edison

>>40843884
Didn’t edison mostly steal other inventors ideas his whole career?
Captcha : TRJWS

>>40843893
“Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to steal just one more invention.” Thomas Edison

>>40837028
I was reading some of the excerpts from that book The Freedom Model For Addiction, and it reminded me distinctly of a few feelings I had before. One was when I first decided to leave my phone downstairs while I slept (been doing it for years now). On the one hand, it's effective in making it harder for me to look at porn on my phone, especially just after I wake up. But on the other hand, and I remember thinking this distinctly, it reinforces the concept that I am a slave to temptation. If I'm tempted, I need the substance to be as far away as possible, because I lack all willpower to resist. Each time I place a restriction like that, I tell myself "You're not strong enough to resist, you actually want that thing."

It's a pain in the ass to keep my phone downstairs, so I'm going to leave it in my room tonight so I can check the time when I wake up. If I get tempted to check my phone, I'm not going to, because I have free will. I'm not running away anymore, I'm not child-proofing anything, I have the power to say no.

>>40843903
Thanks I am going to read this to my crush

>>40843932
Ive masturbated for decades and never achieved this picture

Just gooned my last goon.
I'm fucking done with this shit.
This filthy addiction has been keeping me down for years.
No more.
I'm fucking done with this shit.
I'm not gonna count the days, I'm just gonna live my life as if I never even knew porn and masturbation was even a thing.

Repeat after me. WAGMI.

>I’m free from the slavery of porn.
>It’s easy to ignore my thoughts about porn.
>My mind is focused on overcoming my porn addiction.
>Porn steals my time, energy and vitality.
>Giving up porn is easier day by day
>I enjoy and value my porn-free lifestyle.
>If I look back and think about my progress, it gives me great joy and pride in myself.
>Every time I see other porn users I get more motivated to see myself break that chain.
>All that energy is healing my body and mind.
>I can focus on my goals now that I have given up porn.
>I’m free and no longer a slave to porn

>>40843945
Congrats, you just took the first step to avoiding becoming pic related.

>>40843963
Chaos is filth.

>>40843945
>relapses again after a week
You can't beat this you cunt. Seek professional help, you will not beat any of this on your own.

>>40837006 (OP)
Started dosing small amounts of weed while doing SR. Noticed the spiritual effects of weed have given me all they have to offer so I've now quit cold turkey.

>The cold sweats at night are awful. Any advice to get past the first few weeks and reset the system?
Should I micro dose to slowly come off or just face the rebound head on like a bandaid?

>>40844007
It's better to quit weed cold turkey. Stop smoking weed. Weed takes Jing and rapidly turns it into Qi and Shen, thus you lose a lot of essence over time, since you're body is releasing Jing faster than the body can assimilate it. You can't take SR seriously if you smoke pot, you will 100% relapse eventually.

>>40843945
Based. Good luck to you anon, I know you'll defeat this monster

>>40843752
Fall seven times, stand up eight.

day 1 again hahaha
it seems boredom is the true killer for me

254 days

I started taking zinc supplements and now I get rock hard. Pray for me bros

>>40843166
checked and based

Hello my name is a Churt Chobain and I smels like Semen Retantion

>>40843490
that all sounds great and all but I get hard from just looking at pictures of girls that I like and im talking to, I can't imagine how hard would i be it would end up being painful and get me blue balls and when you get that you feel like dying
>>40842777
checked

hi guys

>>40845082
Whats your point

>>40845082
i almost relapsed but then saw this, thanks for drying me up anon

Day 6.

Does morning wood ever go away, I've been getting it since I was 13.

>>40844541
Yes it is anon, I keep relapsing when I am bored, just a sign you should fill your time more constructively.

>>40844613
Zinc makes my nuts ache and way easier to accidental coom be careful

>>40844007
>weed
stop that.

Just stop being gay.

A Woman's biological goal in life is to get pregnant and have children.
A Man's biological goal in life is to get a Woman pregnant and have his children.

The longer I retain my semen the more I feel like I see women wanting me, I think back to times where it was so obvious a girl wanted drain me but I had already drained myself.

The man is the one who gets to choose whether or not the woman gets pregnant, the woman needs to be the one to make herself more attractive to men, thus we see a infinite amount of women doing thirst traps etc online, dressing like whores in real life. I'm unsure if the woman is really aware of this fact when they are doing these things or not.

Does anyone else have thoughts on this?

>>40837006 (OP)
Block blue light, get more sunlight, and ground yourself regularly

>>40844613
be careful you dont take them on an empty stomach, will give you horrible stomach cramps.

is there dopamine when i sneeze?

>>40845754
Yes. Also when you pee and shit. But it doesnt fry your brain like porn. 1 or 2 seconds of dopamine is a lot different than hours of gooning.

>>40845772
aaaaaaah ok

Anyone experiencing no emotions at all, I'm not anxious, i am not excited about things either, feel detached. Day 40, fully clean streak, not even lustful thoughts and fantasies. Is this flatline?

Day 13.

>>40845996
sometimes life just do be like that

day 180 whatever. at this point i have no idea what benefits i'm getting and i just don't want to be a coomer

>>40845996
You can literally define your emotions. You want to feel happy just feel happy, wtf? Where do you think your emotions come from?

>>40837440
>SR because it'll change their attitude towards women in general.
lol no, I'm not porn addict for a 2 years and still want to kms then I see loving couple

>>40845082
Lmao imagine thinking an AI whore does anything retard zoomie

>>40845996

>no emotions
>feel detached

Meditate on this. This is good. You could be close to enlightenment, especially if you chose to fast as well

I feel like anything I do, is just a pointless distraction, and the urges are too strong. I'm gonna ask my doctor to chemically castrate me.

>>40846431
do you go outside at all? it sounds like someone needs to prescribe you some nightwalks

>>40846071
>>40846269
>>40846343

Thanks bros.
I think my flatline is because i have abruptly cut everything that drains my energy starting from lustful thoughts, then i got a lot of free time and started reading books on spirituality, neuroscience, psychology, dreams and self help, it finally clicked, all they say about spirituality is true, i have always been inquisitive as far as i remember from childhood, i used to question death and afterlife since i was 6 year old and i was and still pretty scared of it. When i read these books it became clear to me I needed to control my mind and thoughts, so i started to meditate, mindfulness one, now my mind feels very still, i can just ask it to stop when it begins to fantasize or engages in a negative loop.

This has healed my ADHD and OCD, i can focus for long time. Looks like I'm on the right path?

Im on day 32 and besides that, everything in my life is shit right now. In contemplating suicide for the first time in my life.

lasted 8 days back to daily and since years ago i sext strangers...fuck me bros i dont wanna hurt any more people but i cant stop, I dont even want to go to confession because i know from the last 2 years of trying that im just gonna fail again

>>40837006 (OP)

give to me straight; will having sex with my wife ruin the benefits of SR. She's been increasingly tempting me over the past days and I'll be honest Im not sure how Im going to be able to hold out if she keeps this up

>>40843166
What's wrong with meat and music though?

>>40844613
you should take copper along with zinc
Loading up on zinc will make you want to coom to get rid of the excess

>>40845428
Interesting thought, I'm 7 months in and have also noticed a change in the way I am perceived since starting SR. Ways such as: many women go silent when I walk by, they put their heads down and look at the ground or do that 'stare from the corner of the eye'. Before I'd just be part of the background noise and wouldn't get any reactions like these.
SR also helped me take more risks regarding the conversations I have with women. It's like you get this suave side of your personality to come out and you know exactly what to do and say at what moment. Everything comes naturally and doesn't feel like a script.

>>40846545
It's dopamine withdrawal. It will pass.

>>40846566
If you ejaculate, yes it will.
4x the prolactin from sex ejaculation vs masturbation ejaculation, though there are some hormonal benefits during sex - those benefits are far higher with retaining seed rather than spilling.

>>40845082
Finally a decent looking chick. Could just be the lack of tatoos, which is rare.

>>40846431
Start doing pushups when you get the urge.

>>40846566
Apparently you can have sex without nutting through Tantric techniques. Something about clenching and orgasming up your spine instead of out your willy. Might be worth to read up on that if you've got a wife.

>>40846306
>still want to kms then I see loving couple
Bro having a gf/wife isn't all sunshine and rainbows either. Most married men are absolutely miserable. Stop it with the pity party.

What about fasting and SR? do the benefits increase even more?

>>40846821
Why would it

>>40845082
i prefer guys

>>40846821
maybe it aligns with your goals to meditate infront of a wall for a full day, doing absolutely nothing else.

>>40846545
Being able to resist suicidal urges is a valuable skill. Learn it now. Be stronger for it.

>>40846788
yeah just keep pointlessly straggling through life with out anyone to love or be loved ever to bright it up. I can't remember any single day I've been happy in my life, only cope. Even on ecstasy what suppose to simulate this type of feeling I was feeling alone and not belonging. I just don't have any motivation to keep going.

>>40846904
not him but i am extremely lonely and also feel the same way (i actively avoid places with people so i dont seethe and want to die the rest of the day) but when you feel envious of other people you don't really want to be them, you just want to have certain things for yourself you're projecting onto them if that makes sense. its just a goal or unfulfilled neen you have, the point is most people are retarded and shit and that feeling inferior is nonsensical and counterproductive. if you retreat and start to hide in your misery again until you forget it you just repeat the cycle. ofcourse it seems borderline impossible to meet new people as a loner, i dont know how to fix that myself either.

>>40846978
>i actively avoid places with people so i don't seethe and want to die the rest of the day
that's what happen to me today and I had mental braked down and destroyed my desk today.
>that feeling inferior is nonsensical and counterproductive
just this year I really started to understand how fucked up I'm compered to others because started socialize more and going on dates from dating apps. Mostly because of lacking family and resources.

>>40846581

>you know exactly what to do and say at what moment. Everything comes naturally and doesn't feel like a script.

Ive had the exact same thing happen to me too, kinda freaked me out at first because its very different from how I usually am. Im also feeling more energic than before and I have urges to lift weights.

>>40846788
I just want a good wife to hug

>>40846821
I believe that it would for very good reasons. Fasting helps repair the body and often leads to increased clarity and energy. Ive done multiple 3 day fasts and I always feel amazing. Look up autophagy. Im actually starting a 3 day fast tonight but this is my first time during SR. Im really excited. Im going to be doing a lot of meditation and breath work and I think the combination is really going to take things to another level.

>>40847048
>pic
yeah I've noticed how I don't need to sleep that much or even want to smoke cigarettes as heavy smoker just by sleeping together with whores form dating app. Never had a gf btw.

>>40847073
damn im fasting right now and while I feel the positive effects on my body it trully sucks, especially on a sunday with not much to do

>>40847040
if you go on dates you are way ahead of me, i'm nearing 30 and never been on one due to isolation and lack of trying. just dont fall for the "if you haven't socialised by X age you never can" meme which is very untrue, also SR helps with all of this stuff.
most people have zero self esteem, especially women and coomers, if you have nothing but are confident about it they can unironically be intimidated, it means you're unbreakable and these people all keep up appearances constantly nobody is honest.

>>40845082
Nice

>>40847298
>i'm nearing 30
me too.
>if you go on dates you are way ahead of me
downloaded dating app like 4 moths ago and lied about my age. But girls I like ignoring me after they type "hi".
>also SR helps with all of this stuff
true but I don't feel it anymore.

Basically the day I turned 32 I noticed I had aquired under eye bags and instantly lost my attractiveness. Its honestly unreal you can just be good looking and wake up one day and you are not good looking any more.

>>40847341
what age did you put? also a lot of guys think pointlessly yapping is productive on dating apps, i think you should basically go straight to asking to meet up on the first 1-3 messages.

>>40847362
>what age did you put?
20-22, many believe it, but it mostly because of specific of local app I use, so I can see profiles of 20yo.
>i think you should basically go straight to asking to meet up on the first 1-3 messages.
yeah I do just that, but I don't think I can find a gf there.

>>40847354
They go away after a few months on SR
t. 33

I finally finished the first draft of my magnum opus after 4 years and 8 months while on a clean streak for the final sessions. I never thought either was ever possible. The glory is God's and God's only. Amen.

>>40845428
If you're horny, it's because life encourages you to reproduce. If life encourages you to reproduce, it's to motivate you to create a legacy and an empire. If life encourages you to create a legacy and an empire, it's to improve life and bring goodness.

What you feel and believe to be a lack is actually fullness

You choose to feel an emptiness and a lack if you focus only on the material aspect

>>40846623
x4 times more prolacin. but also x4 less dopamine. dopamine blocks prolacin. so how is it not equal in the end.??

>>40847073
sleep better on fasting .. wake up and feel like i sleep 1 week.

>>40847765
Less dopamine... which blocks less... so even more prolactin effects... but... you feel the effects more, so you don't need to start again... when you're in love, you have more dopamine, so you have more sex... but in the long run, you have less dopamine, so you feel the effects more and have less sex...

The problem with gooning is that you deplete your dopamine reserves... and you still have less prolactin... but you feel the effects more because you can block it less in the long run because there's less dopamine in reserve... and you can always see a new woman to stay stimulated all the time... in a relationship, you may have to take breaks, but porn doesn't require any physical effort... you always feel a lack of dopamine afterward...
which pushes you to start again

so sex is better for prolacin level in the end..

>>40840850
I feel good.

>>40847660
Congrats!

day 11 and i want to jerk off and watch porn so badly

>>40848321
day 72 and i know that feel. my balls are like 3 times the size when i was a coomer and are starting to ache.

>>40848373
i remember this one part of the book Animal farm when i read it in school, and whenever the animals overthrew the farmer, the cows werent getting milked any more and their udders felt like they were gonna burst

thats how i feel

Day 2, I meditated for 10 minutes, performed the Middle Pillar ritual for about 17 minutes, followed by the LBRP. I've been fasting all day and I feel extremely alert, I might do another silent LBRP later before bed. Right now everything's in 4k Ultra HD.

>>40848386
that's exactly how i feel

I'm going about 6 months now without jerking off but this time I've also stopped eating meat. It is probably impossible to describe the state I am in to someone who faps + eats meat on the regular. All i can do is recommend you try it for yourself. No one's going to force you, you are fully in control of your own life decisions. You can jerk off daily and eat meat, it's totally up to you. But if you do, you'll never in your whole life feel how I'm feeling right now. If that's your choice, then I pity you.

>>40848580
i agree on the not fapping but why not eat meat, it has so many good nutrients

>>40848580
nutrient deprived?

>>40848386
>>40848472
embrace it. You're filled with sexual power. But you are in control

>>40848580
Based plant based eater? These faggots will never know that euphoria

>>40848623
It increases libido and moves your state of being more towards animal, less towards spiritual. Nothing good or bad about it in itself, just if you want to connect to your etheric soul it's easier without earthly BS like lust, hunger, etc. This guy >>40848580 has probably achieved some kind of breakthrough just by muting animal impulses.

Approaching three months.

>>40847765
I think you meant 4x more dopamine?
That's not necessarily the case. After a couple years with the same partner the dopamine levels you experience with them drop lower and lower with every orgasm. The process is called habituation. This is the root cause of most break-ups / divorces. Abusiveness and infidelity are symptoms of habituation. The purpose of sexual habituation in nature is to cause mammals to move on to a new partner because more genetic diversity in offspring = higher chances of survival.

>>40846561
>i cant stop
Yes you can, it is just easier to think you can't cause giving up is easier than trying.

Saw some posts earlier about vegan dieting vs eating meat. Overall, which would you say is a healthier diet, keto or vegan? I feel like being in a state of ketosis would offset the potentially undesirable effects of eating meat like increased libido or 'animalism'

>>40849050
The only answer is to try both for a few days just like SR and see what suits you best

Look at what porn did

>>40849110
Population control instituted by the deepstate is death by 1000 cuts

>>40845317
>pic
this. there are no benefits for SR, and it isn't /x/, but it is still a worthy goal
t. 250 days

>>40843877
Then get your own cows dumbass

>>40842610
Can confirm after many years this anon speaks the truth

>>40846566
>>40846704

I've trained this skill but even so... If you do achieve this ability it is a far greater pleasure than any quick nut can give you but it's intense and requires the full body to engage with the reversal of energy.

And it is risky, it is so easy to allow for the reverse of energy to flow back out and you cannot hold it and reverse forever if you continue to stimulate without hitting the orgasm it will become edging and likely lead to a release.

I have had this happen during sex and I was still able to hold but I still nutted like 25% and then cut it off really quick and retained the rest.

>>40838924
thanks anon, that makes sense and possibly lines up

>>40849570
Cont. I might just require more training though. So speaking from my experience alone.

I will add on, outside of the pleasure of sex I felt nothing after.

Maybe the sex is with the wrong female or SR has made me aware that sex and the pleasure from it is fleeting and pointless to try hold onto. Temporary salvation for eternal damnation is almost what it felt like. You can find the heaven on earth if you avoid the lust that dwells here.

> Question though: I think you should avoid lust but seek love. However can lust be included with your love? I think the order it comes might matter greatly. Can you lust for a women and have sex and transmute it into love? Or will you always know love before sex happens?

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