Thread 40912352

Welcome. The purpose of this general is to show you how to use your own wonderful human imagination to achieve your every desire.

The world and all within it is man’s conditioned consciousness objectified. Consciousness is the cause as well as the substance of the entire world. So it is to consciousness that we must turn if we would discover the secret of creation. Knowledge of the law of consciousness and the method of operating this law will enable you to accomplish all you desire in life.

Your assumptions right now decide how long that will take for you.

The Main Concepts:
> Imagination creates Reality
> Assumptions harden into fact
> Consciousness is the only Reality
> Feeling is the Secret
> Prayer, Living in the End/In the Wish Fulfilled (remaining Faithful to your Idea)
> You are the Operant Power
> There is no one to change but Self (Self-Concept)
> Thinking Fourth-Dimensionally (Time is an Illusion)

> Can I manifest ___?
Yes! Creation is finished.

> Curious? Do the Ladder Experiment
pastebin.com/yXqanLu6

> The Simple Technique
https://pastebin.com/LNwqkDms

> Who is Neville Goddard?
Neville was a mystic who taught the Bible as a parable of the human psyche — a great psychological drama — and not a record of historical events.

Recommendations for beginners:
> How to manifest your desires (Core 5 Lessons & Radio Talks)
mega.nz/folder/V8ESkKzC#bHIFV4BxgHk7ksf6Pwq_-Q

> Neville's Feeling is the Secret
files.catbox.moe/rrsh2g.pdf
files.catbox.moe/wwq24r.epub
> Audiobook
http://youtu.be/ffNWoefuwPM

> Audiobook
http://youtu.be/_UoGV6LBwds

—/ Extra resources /—
>Master Index
pastebin.com/Ne1Tms8S

> Universal Line
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1X9dB7eDI5RcHOBvixGjAhZ_lgJjJIhGq
https://files.catbox.moe/fxv61u.pdf

> Library
mega.nz/folder/Ns9mhDSC#iKKxSnq5EoG_GxYLeylrSg

Previous thread: >>40892199

Jesus said unto him, “Thomas, because thou hast seen Me, thou hast believed. Blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed.”

John 20:29

>>40912352 (OP)
I am grateful lil anon no longer trip fags.

>>40909916
you seem to have really latched onto this thing about "onlyfans girls" is there something you want to tell us about it?

>>40912786
Is there something you want to tell us about why you haven't manifested winning the lottery or not being able to get any female attention besides from onlyfans girls?

>>40912839
how's the weather in tel aviv?

>>40912849
How's the money form the lottery jackpot, and your harem of wome- oh wait you don't have any of that lmao

So it's true? I am God? All the occasions where I thought about someone intensely only for them to send me a message/give me a call out of nowhere weren't just coincidences? All those cases of what someone'd call just extreme luck of which I've had so many throughout my life? Was I right all along?
Does my consciousness (me) really maneuver itself throughout the infinite possible realities after each supposed wave-function collapse/some other quantum event based on what it "thinks" and where it/I want to be lead? Is the world my playground in that if I do believe and will it, it happens?

Is the reason that we don't see people having manifested tons of stuff just that the versions of them having been lead on the path where their wishes come true all ended up in some of the other infinite realities?

If true, this feels like either the revelation of my life, or something that will ruin me and make me go mad. Am I just schizo rambling, or is this really how things are?
I've learned about all of this after going through something I would have rather not experienced and seeking a way to transport my consciousness back in time, and now I'm discovering this.

Lmao, I just realized, I literally manifested my wife.

I remember at one point in my life, I was so done with my loneliness that I decided to do something about it. I started working out and had become fit and confident enough to put myself out there. I asked the universe for a mixed bilingual woman who was nice, had some sort of drive lol, and accepted me wholeheartedly and unconditionally (she knows that I browse this site daily). I met her by chance and had put her through the wringer over the years. But it had just dawned on me that she was what I had asked for so many years ago....

This is mind blowing.

>>40912839
Holy fuck this guy again

>>40912878
it's early in the morning in Tel Aviv and our brave jidf soldier once again begins his sisyphian task of trying to demoralize a thread that is largely immune to demoralizing.

>>40912378
You're only bad at it if you believe that's the case. Instead focus on luck being a real thing but also consider this is a realm of competing forces so you may be lucky and may be able to increase your luck, but others are doing the same to all kinds of ends. Magic is wonderful, but can be overwhelming so I'd say start small and explore at a steady pace. Peace and Love <3

>>40912378
>is magic real and Im just shit at it?
no bro! you're just untrained! you got this, start a good mental diet, eat good and be healthy and your power will flow!

>>40909081
Because it works like that, and is especially important with people that over complicate things. You assume it, you embody it, you BE it in your imagination and it's done.
Your pizza example is dumb. First, you order your pizza and it's done. You don't live in the state of "a fag that does nothing while waiting for a pizza because the pizza will get later". You continue with your life because you know the pizza will be there unless you're boring and retarded.
Second, the assuming is analog to the act of ordering the pizza, yes, but is analog to the WHOLE act of ordering a pizza. You're reducing it a "just a call" but you have to tell the pizza place what kind of pizza do you want, how many, additions, your address, etc. If you do it wrong and call saying just your address and you hang up, or you ask for a tire for your car or maybe ask for a pair of socks or just ask for a pizza but tell them you're not going to pay, etc. you won't get your pizza.
Here is the same, you have to be it in your imagination and you can only be it in the present. You can do it as "I already have been it" to try to say you're being it on the past but it is still the present because you're being the person already have it, so is still the present.

>>40912352 (OP)
>tfw NEET who makes no money
How could I possibly believe I could manifest $1,000,000 out of nowhere?

Brb Anon is manifesting from 3000 miles to come suck his dick

>>40912946
>tfw no lottery jackpot
>tfw can’t manifest girls actually liking you
>tfw the only thing you can manifest is being made fun of on the internet, samefagging, and getting neetbucks for onlyfans subscriptions

>>40913369
Start with something small.
Then move on
Neville says smt similar but with hobos

G.M, happy and comfy manifesting to all of you!
remember that it gets better!

>>40913440
in the 3d*

G.M, happy and comfy manifestation to all of you!
remember that we have already made it and we're just waiting for the 3D to catch up

G.M, happy and comfy manifestation to all of you!
remember that we have already made it and we're just waiting for the 3D to catch up

>Tried to just start visualizing before entering sats
>When went to bed still fell asleep
>Had to revise when i woke up
>Stilp fell asleep again
Could it be i use the phone again?

>>40912865
Beautiful. Love success stories. I have had many too. But could use some motivation rn so thnx

is not manifestation just reality shifting?
Like you are just shifting to that version of you that has the desired thing?
Creation is finished and Goddard's Mansion allegory

>>40913462
Good reminder but holy fuuuudge am I exhausted ya know? Ehhh it'll work out in the end I suppose, but still, fuuuuuu-

But yeah, Peace and Love <3

>>40913501
it's okay to feel burned out and depressed like that, this is not the law of attraction where you have to keep a positive mood all the time, just mental and physical pain when you have to, accept your human nature, even your doubts and fleeting thoughts (fleeting and stray thoughts don't manifest) but always make sure to dwell in the end state back:

"And that maintained attitude that gets you there, so that you think from your wish fulfilled instead of thinking about your wish, is aided by assuming the feeling of the wish fulfilled frequently. (It is the frequency, not the length of time, that makes it natural). That to which you constantly return constitutes your truest self. Frequent occupancy of the feeling of the wish fulfilled is the secret of success."

>>40913501
>>40913501
it's okay to feel burned out and depressed like that, this is not the law of attraction where you have to keep a positive mood all the time, accept mental and physical pain when you have to, accept your human nature, even your doubts and fleeting thoughts (fleeting and stray thoughts don't manifest) but always make sure to dwell in the end state back:

"And that maintained attitude that gets you there, so that you think from your wish fulfilled instead of thinking about your wish, is aided by assuming the feeling of the wish fulfilled frequently. (It is the frequency, not the length of time, that makes it natural). That to which you constantly return constitutes your truest self. Frequent occupancy of the feeling of the wish fulfilled is the secret of success."

>>40913466
https://youtu.be/8f0CfMLSk-M?si=xmLs6aIg343pBJZf

"Man desires freedom from his limitation or problem. The first thing he
does after he defines his objective is to condition it upon something else. He
begins to speculate on the manner of acquiring it. Not knowing that the
thing desired has a way of expression all of its own he starts planning how
he is going to get it, thereby adding to the word of God. If, on the other
hand, he has no plan or conception as to the fulfillment of his desire, then
he compromises his desire by modifying it. He feels that if he will be
satisfied with less than his basic desire, then he might have a better chance
of realizing it. In doing so he takes from the word of God. Individuals and
nations alike are constantly violating this law of their basic desire by
plotting and planning the realization of their ambitions; they thereby add to
the word of prophecy, or they compromise with their ideals, thus taking
from the word of God. The inevitable result is death and plagues or failure
and frustration as promised for such violations."

>>40913493
i think the difference primarily is that your flicker of consciousness will inhabit all of those hypothetical realities, compared to reality shifting which is the idea that you store consciousness in every reality, but you only consciously use this one right now.

On Faith:
“AND Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief; for verily I say
unto you, if ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this
mountain, remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing
shall be impossible unto you.”
This faith of a grain of mustard seed has proved a stumbling block to
man. He has been taught to believe that a grain of mustard seed signifies a
small degree of faith. So he naturally wonders why he, a mature man,
should lack this insignificant measure of faith when so small an amount
assures success.
“Faith,” he is told, “is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence
of things not seen.” And again, “Through faith… the worlds were framed
by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things
which do appear.” Invisible things were made visible. The grain of mustard
seed is not the measure of a small amount of faith. On the contrary, it is the
absolute in faith. A mustard seed is conscious of being a mustard seed and a
mustard seed alone. It is not aware of any other seed in the world. It is
sealed in the conviction that it is a mustard seed in the same manner that the
spermatozoa sealed in the womb is conscious of being man and only man.
A grain of mustard seed is truly the measure of faith necessary to
accomplish your every objective; but like the mustard seed you too must
lose yourself in the consciousness of being only the thing desired. You
abide within this sealed state until it bursts itself and reveals your conscious
claim. (Faith is feeling or living in the consciousness of being the thing
desired)"

>>40912352 (OP)
Do I live in the timeline where Half Life 3 never came out because I assumed Valve took too long?

>>40913884
It was a collective eroding of faith. Faith is fortune.

>>40912865
what is she mixed with?

Can you manifest autism away? Any tips?

>>40914274
It might be easier to assume your autism doesn't cause you setbacks.

>>40914274
revision sounds better for that
but >>40914284 sounds good too

>>40914312
What should I exactly revise, last 25 years of my life?

>>40914274
Yes, you can manifest literally anything (which you would see if you read the op), but if you're asking this question you are probably treating autism like it's some immutable external thing that has power over you. Figure out what having manifested it away would even feel/look like for you, because right now you probably can't picture yourself without it except as some vague "normal person" template. Until you can actually define the end, you're just daydreaming about not having something.

>>40914343
If you seriously think you need to revise 25 years, you're already overcomplicating it, (you are already fitting in right in here!). You're don't need to relive your entire life, you're collapsing the meaning of the crap that's keeping you stuck right now.
Pick the key events/memories that built the state you're in and rewrite those until the emotional charge is gone. You change the state, the whole 25 years changes with it because it's all filtered through the new state anyway.

A good way to deal with the 3D's hardships is to see it as a movie/novel that you know its ending already, you know when in the film/novel there will be a point in the story where everything appears to be hopeless for the main character and he's struggling too much, but if you have seen/read the story already you know it ends happily regardless of the hardships that appear in the start and/or midst of the story, this of course requires you to trust in your power and the process, so yes, live from the end, knowing that you are gonna arrive to there.

>>40914597
Stop the avatar fagging already holy shit it's so fucking annoying

>>40914597
this is nice, i usually just ignore them until it goes away.

>>40914613
i find it charming.

>>40914672
I 'm still not 100/100 sold on the whole "your reality is a mere shadow of your mind" polemic but if it's true it's gonna be a massive realization for anyone, it would literally imply that what happens in our brains is literally ten folds more important than what happens around us in the 3D world.

>>40914672
I 'm still not 100/100 sold on the whole "your reality is a mere shadow of your mind" polemic (yet) but if it's true it's gonna be a massive realization for anyone, it would literally imply that what happens in our brains is literally ten folds more important than what happens around us in the 3D world.

>>40914597
Hi Renmei-anon, I'm the cat guy. How are you?

>>40914613
you should manifest stop being a little fag like you are now.
I bet you're one of those retards that prefer destroying a thread because a trip appeared when you could not be a little girl and keep it clean instead.
anyway, I don't now from what trash can you came from but you should go back.

>>40914701
as above, so below. as it is in your mind so it shall be in the overworld.

>>40914709
fine, fine and you?

>>40914741
this is interesting because i am from a skeptic fag/materialistic background, i almost always believed the universe does not care about us nor are our thoughts or feelings capeable of influencing the real world in any way besides of surface level placebo.

>>40914802
me too, it took me years to unlearn that shit but i am proud of myself that i did.

>>40914822
do you have any supernatural experiences? (manifestation included)

>>40914827
my trip is a reference to my relationship with a female spirit i call 'my mother'. my encounters with her happen through the dream realm (as do most of my other paranormal experiences), from my childhood i remember there was a mild haunting in my grandpa's house. i might have seen ufo's as well (just some flying stars changing direction abruptly as they moved, some just disappearing).

>>40914822
i wish i had cool paranormal experiences too, i recently tried to summon a spirit with the help of some anon here, nothing happened

How do i manifest for others?
I manifested money trough cryptos but my parents still try to have me wagie slave.
Nrville talks about hearing them tell you of their fortunes but do i have to repeat it multiple times?
Possibly them having enough money to stop being wage slaves at 60years of age and able to move out of the house i deserve by innheritance

>>40914927
Goddard talks about this in depth in "Freedom for all" can't remember which chapter exactly

>>40914927
You're mixing two different things here, their experience and YOUR experience of them.
Neville's point isn't "force the universe to make them rich," it's change your inner conversations about them.

If right now your inner picture is "my parents are wagies who need to be rescued," then even if you throw them a million, they're still that in your consciousness. And your world will reflect that.

You don't need to repeat it multiple times like a ritual, you just need to accept as fact, right now, that they're already living free, already telling you how good life is.
You can touch that once with conviction and it's done. Or, if you can't hold it, you return to it until it feels natural, not as a chore, but because you like dwelling there.

But If you are still framing it as "so I can inherit the house I deserve," you're just keeping yourself in the state of waiting for them to die and for you to be validated. That's a state of lack.

Work on your concept of self as someone who naturally lives in the reality you want, in that reality, what's true about your parents? That's the angle.

>>40914986
>You can touch that once with conviction and it's done. Or,
How to do this?
And how to have it come faster apart from what neville said about interval of time?
I just like my childhood home and wish to have them move to their dream Mountain house so i can keep my childhood home to myself.
Also are there any ways to make it so my father doesnt have destroyed lungs and liver by being a drunk chain smoker?
>>40914932
THX BTW

>>40915024
>How to do this?
You don't "do" more, you be it now. You touch it once by sinking into the scene until you stop questioning it. Not trying to force belief, but letting the feeling of it being already true wash over you. When you feel the same ease you would if it were physical fact, you've done it.

>And how to have it come faster apart from what neville said about interval of time?
This is a fucking trap dude, you can only shorten the wait by removing the wait. If you're still "waiting," you are not in the state. Be it now, fully. Time collapses around identity.

>I just like my childhood home and wish to have them move to their dream Mountain house so i can keep my childhood home to myself.
I'll spoonfeed you a scene you can use right now in SATS. Your scene could be: you in your childhood home, but visiting them in their mountain house, hearing them talk about how perfect the move was. Keep it simple, sensory, and natural, the kind of scene you'd replay just because it’s pleasant.

>Also are there any ways to make it so my father doesnt have destroyed lungs and liver by being a drunk chain smoker?
Same principle, drop the version of him who's sick. See him as the man with clear lungs, strong body, living well. If you can't imagine the healing process without resistance, skip it, go straight to the end where he's already well and acting like it.

What community do you think has more liars and fake stories? This one or reddit?

I know we should not focus too much on the theory and neglect the practice but has anyone read this?

>>40915068
Reddit is more likely to be a lobby for basedtubers/grifters/"coaches" and their shills by the mere virtue of the community there being vastly bigger than here.

>>40914794
I'm feeling a little better because I think our Manifestation will be a success. Today I literally saw a cat that was missing here in the neighborhood. It's not either of the two I'm looking for, but it was amazing, honestly.

>>40912432
This and stop visiting LoA information communities are all you need
Some based bible verses and neville quotes can't hurt either

>>40915068
>>40915091
Blackpiller was proven to be a shill for reddit and some loa coach on reddit(moonguy) edwart art

>>40915127
ahhhhhh, signs, okay, remember NOT obsess with them, if you see a potential sign just react like:
"oh, cool, whatever"
if you get too attached to them you may just end up manifesting signs without the actual objective.

>>40915140
blackpiller?
You mean the annoying skepticfag that was posting here all the time a while ago?
do you have proof of him being a shill for that coach? sounds paradoxical

>>40915138
It's necessary to stop consuming LoA content if you want consistent results. Every time you come here, or read a reddit post, or watch a LoA youtube video, your mindset leaves the state of abundance and you become a student, pretending you don't understand anymore, wondering why it hasn't worked yet. Live you life and leave the LoA communities behind.

>>40915155
i think it depends on the intent, i just go to reddit because i have 2 much free time and nothing to do, i don't even care about all of the S.S anymore

>>40915140
>>40915148
i'm pretty sure he was proven to be an unironic jew from Tel Aviv.

>>40915190
I totally understand being a skepticfag (although they should try it with good intents first) but lol imagine dedicating your whole time to come to a board regarding something that you don't believe in and try to change people's minds about it.

>>40915217
it's not that he's trying to change anyone's minds, his psychology forces him to twist everything into an argument that he has to win by any means necessary. he engages in pilpul tactics because that is his character, it's all he knows. (there is also a chance that he's doing this as his job, he replies to me during mornings and days and goes away during evenings and shabbat).

>>40915141
I'll remember that friend, thanks!

I have a strong O.C.D, and i tend to suspect a lot of success stories on reddit are by shills of youtubers and coaches but i also suspect a lot of failure stories alongst the lines of "I have been practicing the law for years with no results" are from shills who don't want us to awaken our powers.

>>40915511
>reddit are by shills of youtubers and coaches
Correct, reddict is cancer
>but i also suspect a lot of failure stories alongst the lines of "I have been practicing the law for years with no results" are from shills who don't want us to awaken our powers.
When i posted about ai a doomer wojak blackpill poster instantly posted afterward.
He also posted about just be demoralized on pol

>>40915527
Glad you agree

I also wonder about the crazy stories from Tumblr, people claiming to revive the dead, changing their sex of birth, and even drastically reducing their age from an adult's to a middle scholar's

>>40915568
there are hundreds of them, one can never know if a handful of them could be true

>>40915568
They're probably lying
But I still wonder what do they even get out of it

>>40915588
God knows what sorts of mental disorders make people pathalogically lie for no good reason online, as a child in school i lied a lot to appear cool and interesting to the students, attention whoring

>>40915568
If you believe in loa, you know that neville never put limits on what imagination could do. The """extremes""" you're talking about, resurrecting the dead, de-aging, rewriting birth history, fall into the same principle as manifesting a coffee, occupy the end as already true. Neville himself claimed to have revised the death of his secretary.

The problem is, those kinds of claims are basically unverifiable. Because in this experience they never died, were born female, or were born ten years earlier. And most people reading them are looking for either proof or entertainment, not actually doing the work. If you want to test those limits, drop the obsession with how "crazy" it is and move into the state like you would with anything else.

Whether the stories are fake or not doesn't matter because it doesn't change whether you can do it, the only proof you'll ever get is in your own experience.

>>40915588
Get out of here limiting belief andy

>>40915781
Why didnt he sabe his nephew from cancer?

>>40915808
He did, at least, in the way Neville understood saving. The nephew, laurence, recovered after neville imagined him healthy. The cancer came back years later, and laurence died. Neville was clear that everyone is operating their own imagination, and you can't permanently sustain a state for someone else unless they accept it for themselves.

Neville also didn't frame death as failure, to him, physical death was just a change of state. So from his worldview, there wasn't a contradiction. From a purely materialist view, that obviously sounds like a cop out, which is why this topic usually goes nowhere in debate.

>>40915865
>you can't permanently sustain a state for someone else unless they accept it for themselves.
Limiting belief, just like believing others can reject you manifesting bad things on them.
Ive manifested a guy getting ball cancer, another run over by a car, women getting beaten up,... not once as it been bounced back.
And he does say you could manifest bad things to him and others and that only what you think of the "law" affects how it works

>>40915912
Neville's point wasn't that others have some kind of psychic shield you can’t break through, he agreed you can influence others because they are in your consciousness. The difference is whether you continue to hold them in that state.

If you imagined someone getting hurt and it happened, that's still a change of state, but unless you keep it fixed in imagination, they can and will shift again, consciously or unconsciously. Same principle applies with positive states.

The reason Neville emphasized acceptance is that if you want lasting change, it's much easier if the person's own self concept aligns with your imaginal act. Otherwise, you are constantly replanting the seed over and over again.

Like you can impose a state, but do you really want to be responsible for holding it forever?

>>40915912
>Ive manifested a guy getting ball cancer, another run over by a car, women getting beaten up

“The minute you become aware that you’re carrying on these negative conversations, stop it, and come back without any conversation with self, no condemnation of self, no justification of what you did, don’t do it, and come back to the new man” (“Inner Talking,” 1965).

>send friend request to crush
>2 days later, still pending
>find out on this platform requests will stay pending even if they reject
Is this like schrodingers cat? Like she hasn't rejected or ignored my request until I make an assumption?

>>40916010
Pretty much, yeah. Right now the state is undefined until you give it meaning. If you assume she's ignoring you, you collapse it into that outcome. If you assume she's just busy or will say yes, you're selecting that reality. The outer world reflects your dominant assumption, so you might as well pick the one you actually want.

>>40915961
Sounds great, little different when you were forced to live with a scrombler (not literally, but a being with such a different energy type that it's just incompatible and I'm only co-existing with this being because the US Government tried to kill me or make me into some kind of incident. So I'll be a hell of a lot nicer when the US Government fucking cleans up it's own god damn mess. Seriously. Fuck them to hell and back and back to hell :3 So shit sorry, but the negative voices are just something I have to fucking entertain in absence of a proper environment.

>>40915568
On a similar note, the rampage posts you see on reddit sometimes? Those are for the user himself to read as he posts it, they're written to hype themselves up. They do it because they feel like they haven't been focused enough on living in the end. You can find similar rampages on youtube and discord voice recordings from "teacher" types.
A rampage post looks like this:
>You're God and that's it! DO YOU HEAR ME?! DOOR SLAM!! EVERYTHING you want is already yours. EVERY!!! THING!!!!

>>40916241
ahahahaha, seriously

>>40916241
Sometimes I can't tell genuine success stories from end state scripting.

where is that nigga of:
"my family helps everyone...."

I am really starting to understand what people mean when they say "you are not your thoughts" the more i get better at mental dieting, the clearer things are in my head, my mind is more Disciplined now and i have more control over my internal monologues, in the past it felt as if my thoughts were flies that would attack me from all sides, as if it's a hot summer day in the forest, now it feels as if the flies are still there but they are not attacking or approaching me, background noise to put it better.

Law of assumption is very crazy when you actually lock in, you quite literally start building your life right in front of you.

i've locked in recently and it's so crazy how things work so fast when i actually do everything i'm supposed to, literally am seeing my dream life unfold right before my eyes.

>>40912352 (OP)
Things are wonderful. My family easily helps everyone in need now and receives endless abundance in return. Things are better than ever and they continue to improve daily. Everyone who has ever helped me or my family is incredibly blessed and happy to see the immense wealth and endless happiness and success my family now enjoys

>>40916402
What methods did you use?

>>40916508
after researching this stuff for literal years i’ve found that the best thing to do is affirm and assume. it’s the easiest and quickest way to do things in my own experience. if you have intrusive thoughts you redirect them and say something along the lines of “that’s what i would think if i couldn’t have *insert manifestation* but i do have *insert manifestation*” or “that’s what the old me would say” anything you say to yourself will and can work. manifestation is also personal, so you don’t have to do/say things in a specific way / method, it’s genuinely what works best for you. and for me personally journaling works very well. i love writing down my manifestations as if i already have them or thanking the universe for giving them to me. making lists helps too, it’s fun to write down everything i want and checking it off as it comes to me. and meditation is amazing! if you haven’t tried it yet i highly highly suggest you do, there are so many guided meditations on youtube! the last time i used a guided meditation i was manifesting my car and i got it less than a week later :) these are all suggestions and things that work for me so i cant promise that they’ll work for you, but it doesn’t hurt to try. your mind is so much more powerful than you know and don’t ever doubt yourself over that

>>40916402
>literally am seeing my dream life unfold right before my eyes.
My dream life involves being a futanari woman with a huge cock. Hopefully it happens fast

>>40916602
You wouldn't have this dream unless you watched ridiculous amounts of degenerate porn

Honestly most of you guys would get good results if you just cut off all social media and music and focused purely on your affirmations for just a week.

I tried doing this and almost all of my manifestations came true, including meeting a celebrity (donald trump).

>>40913369
>How could I possibly believe I could manifest $1,000,000 out of nowhere?

You still take actions. You look for opportunities while trusting they will find you.

>>40916987
What other goals did you manifest? Did you only use affirmations? I can't seem to make SATS work because I exit the "wish fulfilled" state like 5 seconds after it's done.

>>40917037
Mostly the list method and affirmations yeah. I just picked a handful that tied directly to my goals and just repeated them constantly throughout the day. That's literally all you have to do.

>What other goals did you manifest?
I am the bmw guy from last thread, I became a millionaire without having to work a job because a cousin that I didn't know existed fucking died and left a big portion to me in his will for some reason, and I am moving out of my parents house, and am also talking to a girl who I am pretty sure is my soulmate (another thing that was on my list).

> I can't seem to make SATS work because I exit the "wish fulfilled" state like 5 seconds after it's done
You don't actually need to hold the state forever. Even if you slip out, what matters is how often you return to it. That's why affirmations help so much, they act like anchors during the day when your mind wanders. Think of it like brushing your teeth, you don't do it once and expect permanent results, you just keep returning until it becomes natural.

>>40917113
hell yea based bmw anon glad youre here bro

when you manifested for money how did you affirm/visualize?

>>40917113
>and am also talking to a girl who I am pretty sure is my soulmate (another thing that was on my list).
Fucking A. I'm trying to manifest a girl who barely knows me. Old coworker of mine who was seriously cute. Reached out to her on LinkedIn and so far it looks like she's not responding. Trying to persist that she's already mine no matter what.

>>40917123
For money I didn't do anything fancy. Picked a short affirmation like "I always have insane amounts of money to buy whatever I want" and just looped it all day until it felt like background noise. Didn't try to picture stacks of cash or whatever, just focused on being the person who already has it. Visualization sometimes felt like forcing it, so I leaned more on affirmations and cutting off doubt.

>>40917129
>Reached out to her on LinkedIn and so far it looks like she's not responding.
Why the fuck would you do this????? If you're persisting in the end, she's already your girl, so there's no reason for you to chase like that in 3D. That's probably why you struggle with loa, you probably half ass it by holding the state in your head but then reinforcing the opposite by checking her social media. You've got to stop contradicting yourself in the physical.

Lock in on the state where you are already together and let the bridge of incidents unfold. Otherwise you are just keeping yourself in the state of not having.

>>40917194
I dont know. Some people say you need to take action and you can't just sit on your ass waiting for it to happen. Like do I just not talk to her at all until she's my girlfriend?

>>40917206
You're mixing 3D logic with 4D law. Nobody said to sit on your ass, but your action has to flow from the state, not from desperation.

If in your mind you're already her boyfriend, you don't stalk her social medias, over message, or beg for signs. From that state, maybe you might naturally reach out once and it's casual, not needy. Or maybe she just hits you up out of nowhere. The bridge takes care of the how, it's not your concern.

The trap is when you try to force it with 3D moves while still holding the inner state of "she doesn’t want me." That's why it backfires.

So no, it’s not do nothing it's embody the end first. Then any action that comes will feel natural and effortless.

>>40912352 (OP)
I don’t understand, if there’s no limit then why can’t I use LOA to create an imaginary friend, maybe even with a physical body?

>>40916861
Maybe but it is still my dream to be a big titted gigastacy packing a monster futa cock

>>40917218
Well if I'm already her boyfriend then why would I even worry about getting to know her and introducing myself in the first place? Where do you draw the line? If I did literally nothing you'd complain that I'm not acting like her boyfriend.

>>40917234
You are overthinking it. Being her boyfriend in imagination doesn't mean you roleplay every possible step in the 3D. It means you accept that the end is already true.

From there, what happens in 3D is just the bridge. Sometimes that bridge looks like you casually talking to her. Sometimes it looks like her showing up out of nowhere. Sometimes it's something you couldn't even predict.

>Where do you draw the line?
Simple, if you feel like you have to act to force it, you're still in the state of lack. If you feel natural, at ease, like the end is already yours, then whatever you do (or don't do) flows from that. If you were in this state, you wouldn't even need advice because of how assured you would be.

>If I did literally nothing you'd complain that I'm not acting like her boyfriend.
The doing nothing people complain about is when you sit in wishful thinking while still assuming you don't have it. That is VERY different from resting in the assumption and letting things unfold.

>>40917229
Who said you couldn't??? lol.

>>40917250
You made it sounds like shapeshifting is possible too, I got a myiasis problem, I had tried to turn it into a tentacle monster. I don’t know if it’s working though.

I've been lurking these threads a long time but they've been a bit boring lately. I always like reading descriptions of really good SATS sessions where you can feel an altered state take hold. Picrel is a good example of what I'm talking about. I've been in this state myself numerous times but it's hard to achieve, takes lots of practice. Anyone got any stories like this of their own to share?

>>40916561
This was a good post too, thanks anon.

>>40917333
I have seen some undeniable proof of things like getting taller after 22 yo, but these things take time, ritualistic practice, and unreal energy. Just the commitment required to get to the point where you are able to attempt the manifestation would probably end with you accepting and loving yourself for who you are and calling it quits.

i must learn not to react to what 3d is telling me, last night and this morning i started reacting to it and got angry over it and noticed how my manifestations got so much darker because of it. i don't need to listen to 3d but i am addicted to the suffering it brings.

>>40917960
Don't worry, I am sure your OF "girlfriends" will let you vent to them, for an extra $300 bucks...

But of course this shouldn't be a problem for you, you have the money from your lottery jackpot you manifested, right? Right?

R-right..?

>>40917194

so I want to manifest health for a family member. He suffers from many chronic health issues and cant live a normal life because of it. What affirm would you use?

I also cant do affirms all day, because for some reason it ruins my sleep. i can only do it for the first 8 hours after i wake up. Would I still have results?

I've cracked the code on getting my mind into a suggestible state, and it does lead to results as soon as the next day. The issue is, how do I return to that half-dreaming, overly-happy mindset consistently? Is there a supplement I can take or pose to sleep in? I need a plan.

So the fredoom for all didnt contain anymore knowledge about manifesting for others i didnt already have aside of tbe fact j had already read it,
Though refreshing reading neville thoughts about the bible and them being true.
Nezt gonna read out of this world.

>>40916602
The lack of Trannies and predominance of women in this community is suspicious

>>40912352 (OP)
Finally, a general without the anime faggotry for thumbnail.

anon-Mother-kun I have diverted your lottery winnings, I was able to manifest this because someone (from our tribe) needed the money more. She said you are loved for your sacrifices

>>40917960
It's fine, Anon, just don't give it energy, get over it and get up again, no matter how you fall, accept it and get over it.

>>40918248
Goddard talks in depth about how you manifest for others in his book "Freedom for all" forgot which chapter exactly.

>>40918558
yup, i'm becoming aware of it which means i am getting over it. i have noticed that my manifestations become far more flexible now that i am creating them from genuine desire and not just from reactions to the 3d.

>>40918507
which lottery did she win from?

>>40918323
WAIIIIIIIIIT, i might have actually confused the books, sorryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>40918562
>>40918248
sorry, the book where he talks about that is "Out of this world"

>>40918628
>>40918623
>>40918248
or was it the art of prayer?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH, i hope someone who knows and is sure of the real answer can say it

>>40918421
They haven't invaded occult communities (yet)

>>40917113

Hey bmw guy, you mentioned you read your list and then during the day you affirm "everything on my list is gonna come true"

But then later you said, for one desire you affirm that constantly like with money. How did you schedule this, when to affirm for list and when to affirm for one desire?

Do you believe manifestation works?

>>40918831
Yes but so far my manifestations have been accidental
>thinking about gigachad meme
>gigachad Doppelganger steps in front me of

>in cafe writing a funny story about a guy with no chin
>severely chinless man walks past me

>in car remembering that I forgot to renew my insurance policy
>"fuck I gotta be careful, don't want to get in a crash"
>in rearview mirror, see a car crash

>have gf, super happy with her, literally 0 fights or any reason to break up
>one day, consciously practicing gratitude for abundance, visualizing her leaving me out of the blue
>choose to accept it because I don't want my happiness to be contingent on having a gf
>few days later she fucking leaves and blocks me on all platforms

I feel like I'm at least getting breadcrumbs with my SP. She was laid off from my workplace so workplace conflicts are no longer an issue if we dated. Also I ran into her Doppelganger on Omegle who lived nearby. Was crazy.

>>40918863

how is it that i never had these accidental manifestations? I've known about manifesting for years and nothing

I don't really believe in this, though I've never really tried it. The falling asleep while doing weird stuff seems too difficult.

>>40918872
You likely do but don't notice them. The Gigachad doppelganger was the one that made me think there's more to manifestation than just being a CBT method.

I also had prior experiences that I chalked up to "meme magic". Like at my first job, it seemed that any time me and a coworker joked about something for long enough, it came true.
>our manager was a 20 year old Baptist woman who wore long skirts and had a stuffy demeanor
>me and him would joke about bending her over and fucking her
>"NAAHHHH SHE WOULD NEVER LOL"
>eventually she gets a 30 year old boyfriend who she runs off with and does a bunch of kinky shit with
>couple years later she sends me nudes

We also had a coworker we didn't like who we'd insinuate was a massive homosexual. Guess who came out of the closet one day?
>>40918879
Visualization doesn't feel distinct enough from daydreaming for me. I know there's a difference in intent, but I can't seem to "feel it real" like others say.

The only thoughts I have about my SP are my affirmations.

>>40917901
Growing taller that I believe you, I looked in the mirror and see my ribcage looks unequal in size.
Besides it seems modern science is catching up to mystery schools, human height, despite always being “33” bones only, can change depending on strength of the caduceus.

>>40918915
Oh, I remember you telling that story about the manager, that's a good one. Have you ever been able to manifest something on purpose? I'm the guy trying to manifest missing cats, so far I'm getting good signs.

>>40919005
What does this mean

>>40919063
On purpose, not sure. I feel like I probably manifested Trump's 2024 victory by dancing to Shadilay that night. Any time I felt doubt I would just continue dancing to Shadilay and act like he was already president.
When I was 14 before I learned about LOA, I had somehow manifested being able to sit by cute girls in 2 different classes. I'd think, "damn it'd be nice if I could sit next to them" and eventually the teachers changed assigned seating. I'm not really sure how I did that since I wasn't exactly in a state of "abundance" but things like that happen less often as I get older.

I tried to apply the same logic to my workplace crush and think "hm it'd be cool if she changed assignments and had to sit in my cube space for a bit" but instead she was laid off lmao. I did eventually reach out to her on LinkedIn like a retard >>40917129 but I feel like if I hadn't done that then she would have maintained some mythical untouchable status in my mind. Because no matter how hard I visualized talking to her I'd always tense up every time I got near her. I was actually nervous as shit sending her a message.

I guess her response loosely reflects what I was feeling at the time, so now I'm trying to revise that she was happy to get a message from me and often sends me messages with smiley emojis.

>>40918248
Dude just do something simple and natural, it's not that complicated, "*insert parent here* is perfectly healthy now," or "*insert parent* lives a normal, free life." Don't overcomplicate. The point isn't the exact words, it’s the assumption that the issue is already resolved.

>I also cant do affirms all day, because for some reason it ruins my sleep. i can only do it for the first 8 hours after i wake up. Would I still have results?
What? Who said you needed to affirm 24/7??? 8 hours is plenty. This isn't about grinding like a job, it's about locking the state. If during those hours you actually saturate yourself in the end, the subconscious carries it the rest of the time.

>>40918694
The way I did it was in the morning I'd read my list once and affirm something broad like "everything on my list is coming true right now." That locks in the big picture.

Then during the day I'd pick one thing I wanted to hammer in more (like money) and loop that whenever my mind wandered.

Think of the list affirmation as your umbrella state, and the single desire affirmations as extra fuel for whatever's most important at the moment. Don't treat it like a strict schedule, just make sure both bases are covered daily.

Every answer I gave you would be found if you just read more Neville btw. Please don't force me to spoonfeed you more.

Why does everyone here overcomplicate the process so much? Half the posts are like questions on "when" to SATS, how many affirmations per hour (lol), heckin how did you visualize, how do you "schedule" your affirmations (LMAO) etc. Did any of you even read Neville? Because if you actually did you would know he literally hammers the same point over and over, assume the end and persist. That's it. THATS ALL YOU IDIOTS HAVE TO DO.

Feels like everyone here wants a 500-page instruction manual when the man himself said it's simple. If you're micromanaging every step, you're basically affirming that it's hard and needs extra steps.

Did most of you guys actually read Neville, or just did most of you just pick up secondhand """methods""" from TikTok/Reddit and then stress about whether you're doing them "right"? Genuinely curious.

>>40919106
Interesting, you just assume it and it works. It's hard for me; I have a lot of empathy for animals, and I think too much about their pain and that of their owners. Assuming they're okay and back home, but days go by and nothing happens, is frustrating.

>>40919142
Because I'm doing sats for months, living in the end and nothing happens. Of course questions will arise

>>40919142
Neville's language is too vague and he didn't even understand the law himself. Reason people still have discussions 70 years later is because they're still trying to decipher what exactly he means by "SLEEP AS IF YOU WERE ALREADY IN BARBADOS"
Okay? Do I constantly need to be under the impression that I'm in Barbados? To what extent am I allowed to acknowledge that I'm in America? Like if my grandma calls for a visit do I tell her I can't because I'm in Barbados? Do I need to close my eyes every time I pass by a Wal-Mart and McDonalds?

Would i affirm as if "is always texting me" or "has texted me" to end no contact

>>40919142
They are like people pacing around a swimming pool for years, clutching a "how to swim" guide they have already read a hundred times, yet never stepping into the water. Some may have dipped in briefly, choked on a mouthful, and then decided they needed more theory or more *evidence* that water is real and that floating is possible. Instead of learning to relax, to stay calm, to practice consistently and with discipline, overcoming fear, they reach for the book again and resume their endless circling. It is easier that way, demanding no real effort and sparing them the discomfort of breaking ingrained habits and addictions. In the end, they crave results without transformation. TANGMI

This is a solitary path. A solo genre. You cannot help them. There is no one to push them into the water, so they keep circling, round and round. Like zombies with minds fried by instant gratification systems - entertainment, media, porn, videogames - they stagger with the attention span of a fruit fly.

Such is life.

mindset shift, hacking your subconscious, feeling is the secret.

>>40919207
>follow Neville's teachings
>nothing happens
>"You're doing it wrong! You're supposed to do this thing he never mentioned instead!"
>huh okay. Hey I'm having trouble with this technique he never mentioned
>"Idiot! Didn't you ever read Neville? Show me where he mentioned that technique!"

This chain of conversation is so funny, holy kek

"The serpent's ability to form its skin by ossifying a portion of itself, and
its skill in shedding each skin as it outgrew it, caused man to regard this
reptile as a symbol of the power of endless growth and self- reproduction.
Man is told, therefore, to be "wise as the serpent" and learn how to shed his
skin - his environment - which is his solidified self; man must learn how to
"loose him, and let him go" . . . how to "put off the old man" . . .how to die
to the old and yet know, like the serpent, that he "shall not surely die".
Man has not learned as yet that all that is outside his physical body is
also a part of himself, that his world and all the conditions of his life are but
the outpicturing of his state of consciousness. When he knows this truth, he
will stop the futile struggle of self-contention and, like the serpent, let the
old go and grow a new environment."

>>40918915
I mean what you talked about is more like synchronicities cause they got no rhyme or reason
I had tons too
1- watch sunny in Philadelphia, episode where they want to go watch a jimmy buffet concert, next day in cvs see a magazine cover with jimmy buffet on it
2-saw animation with parrots on it, later that day I go out and right on my block see a telephone poll with like a dozen parrots sitting on it and I never seen parrots here before
3- wanted to download a video game but I had NO recollection of its name. Hanged around the website that usually put them to download, checked like 50 pages, nope, can’t find it. Give up. Went outside and hangout with some friends.
Came back home, went to the website, and saw it to be shown on the main page, since it was updated literally 1-2 hours. This was the craziest one I know of.
I had more but I couldn’t remember them. Thing is, I don’t see them as loa at all, and if you do, you are basically coping and lying to yourself.
Loa is not supposed to be random bullshit that comes and go based on your whims. It’s actually supposed to be precise, and aligned with your feeling and imagination.
>>40919142
Nigga working out is the easiest thing ever, and yet there are millions of books and videos and coaches all saying the same thing. Yes, not everyone gonna grow the same, but the principles of strength training are very simple
If something that you can SEE PHYSICALLY And can measure and have evidence behind still create so much doubt that you need so many millions of manuals, then loa which is basically faith without giving any attention to signs or 3D world, going to generate WAY MORE doubt and thus needs more clarification
So no, what you see is perfectly normal
>>40919207
Dude stop with gaslighting. You can FEEL the water, you can TEST your manual and your training.
>>40919250
Oh I also heard
>if it doesn’t work, it means universe just have something else BETTER for you in mind
lol

>>40919379
>Loa is not supposed to be random bullshit that comes and go based on your whims. It’s actually supposed to be precise, and aligned with your feeling and imagination.
Some people see synchronicities as a byproduct of LOA's mechanisms. It's why I don't like people treating Neville's word as law. The guy was just talking out of his ass most the time and never manifested anything significant.
The takeaway is that your thoughts DO affect your reality to some extent. We just need to find out why and how in order to harness this power.

>>40919207
>instant gratification
>like media porn entertainment
Lmao holy gaslighting
By that then everything in life is “instant gratification”
I eat food? I fell satiated? Instant gratification!
I drink water? No more thirsty? Instant gratification!
Expecting shit to occur in world is not “instant gratification”
Hell by your admission, expecting a good body when you hit gym, or good grades when you study hard is ALSO “instant gratification” because “I did something, and I expect the result according to what I did”
That cause and effect lol

>>40919393
its confusing because there were times that I was SOOOO negetive and I got a positive outcomes
Like I remember I was walking with a girl I really liked, and I was thinking “god I am so pathetic, I never gonna have her. I am so ugly” like sheer stream of negativity
And literally few minutes later, she asked me out!
Like literally out of anime, confessed she liked me. And we were in college at a time.
Ofcourse this negativity doesn’t always work, Becuase I am usually always negetive.
Another one I was out with a date and u thought she doesn’t like me and again, all negetive etc, until she initiated kissing me.
And no, I don’t think this was LOA stuff, cause if it was, I would have a harem of girls by now.
And being positive or affirming or whatever? Null result
Actually worst, because I got friendzone so fucking hard. Imagine a girl you like, talk about literal random whos walking around, commenting how cute they are, and literally talk about everyone you know is cute, but you.

>>40919250
>>40919379
>>40919395
Negro is mad because someone called him out on his porn addiction and lack of discipline. topkek

>>40919409
No dude. I calling your gaslighting
Calling expecting to shit happens in world “being addicted to “instant” gratifications” is the coolest of copes, and gaslighting of gaslighting
You can lie to yourself all you want though
You do you

>>40919407
It's baseline. I remember when I was 19 I went into deeply depressive states but still got positive outcomes because there was underlying logical hopium, feeling like I "understood" I was just being obstinate and petty.
As I got older and more bad shit happened to me, the underlying hopium fades away, and my depression sometimes spirals into suicidal ideation because it seems like the only viable solution.
Overall, I do notice that the things that are out of my control tend to go better when I feel more at ease and stop expecting people to hate me for existing.

>>40919415
All this noise, all this word salad coming from this eternal defeatist. Feels like a poorly written GPT, really.

>Had in my head i wanted to fix some stuff about my face, and wanted another kind of face product i finnished for looksmaxing purposes(didnt think from it, i thought of it)
>Mom brings me to walk in a long mountain range
>We finnish that
>Go to thermal water thing next to the mountain
>There i want some stuff
>Mom doesnt let me borrow her money or use my credit card(no internet)
>look into my wallet
>10€ that werent there before
>I buy the looksmaxing stuff
>Thermal water fixed some of the holes in my face
I didnt realy think from the end but it still happened.

>>40919409
>discipline
Is for slaves self control is for free man

Has anyone manifested contact from someone who hates You?

I wonder why some people can't even manifest a penny on the sidewalk. It's like that Starship Trooper scene where the main character is getting tested for psychic abilities by guessing what card from a deck his friend had and getting it 100% wrong. Then his friend is like statistically you should have accidentally guessed right by now.

I had no hopium like I did literally everything loa people said don’t:
1- I was so maxed on “want and need and desire etc to be with her”
2- and I was sooo sooooo negetive.
I mean if you write about my feeling and then talk about why I can’t get my sp, every loa “practitioner” and their grandma going to come out of sticks to tell you about “how I am doing it all wrong and I don’t get her cause of all my rampant desire and need, and sheer negativity”
Despite all that, I still got the girl.
Look I know a guy, handsome fellow, literally depressed, never talk to girls; absolute mess internally and externally, feeing down, feeling worthless, I know that dude cause I talked to him, and I heard from girls talking to him, and guess what? Girls want him bad. Like they accept all his issues, all his “unattractive” personality issues.
You think is it because of the obvious physicals trait? Or cause of some internal loa shit?
But for real to end this, loa, if real, is “taught” by people who have no idea what to do. They were either born lucky, or just heard it from someone else.
Hell we had a guy here talking about how he got a girl using loa and it turns out SHE approached him, and he was so happy, because sex was nothing to him and he already had like 4 booty calls, but this one has some emotional connection or whatever
Turns out, he is just a handsome fella
Sorry for rant, but you would get frustrated if bunch of bony skinny people told you how to hit the gym to make muscles
Like they have no results, why are they want to criticize me?
That’s my allegory of all this shit show
>>40919443
If that’s how you doing your sats then be it. Thinking expecting results means “instant gratification culture” is wild to me, and sound like a deranged cope
I mean, imagine going to gym and see all your buddies keep getting buffer while you stay the same, or study hard and learn the stuff and still failing.
It drives any sane man mad.

>>40919490
Maybe it’s like everything else in life, tied to genetics. Like how some people can learn fast; or grow fast in gym
But then again, no one ever did any real manifestation as far I am aware (yeah not counting schzio tumbler and Twitter)
So maybe no one has much power anyway

>>40919379
>>40919393
>>40919407
>>40919422
And to expand, if you accept any form of "manifestation" as true, it's important to recognize that you are constantly manifesting. I don't think I've ever received anything that's been impossible to anticipate.

I was unemployed for over a year, got accepted into a shitty IT job. Once my first day was done, I got a job offer from a defense contractor I barely remember applying to that was paying double. I wasn't even aware of LOA back then. But I guess the new job removed the underlying belief that I'm unemployable?

Sometimes it really is just random shit though, like seeing people wear shirts for bands whose songs I'm humming, or having conversations about topics I was focusing on 5 minutes ago. Or just some goofy ass sequence from my dream coming to fruition. (My grandfather died a week after I had a dream where my mom was crying and said, "Daddy died")

>>40919511
Sure but it’s just jumbled up and can’t be pinpointed like these people claim. The whole “feel and believe” angle can’t be really true because then why this wouldn’t work?
I know tons of people stuck in dead end jobs and tons who work fucking day and night and can’t get a break
Hell, I mean look at me. Money was never important for me, shiny cars and watches and travel etc was never important for me, and I am not rich either
So people who desire it so much, are poor, and people like me who don’t actually desire it much, are Also poor.
So what is with detachment that they always harp on?

>>40919367
slither! hither! we'll all be doing it tomorrow!

>>40919498
>>40919422 meant for you

>>40919159
That's exactly the trap, doing SATS for months while waiting for the 3D to move. If you're living in the end but at the same time clocking the months and measuring "results," then you're actually living in the state of not having it yet. Neville said persist but he didn't mean grind it like a second job, he meant settle into the state and stop checking the soil every morning to see if the seed sprouted. If you're constantly asking "where is it," you're feeding the opposite assumption.

>>40919162
This is where people miss the point. Sleeping in Barbados isn't about literally lying in your bed pretending your sheets are hotel linen and gaslighting yourself all day. It's about carrying the inner knowing that you’re already there. So yeah, you can acknowledge America, but you're no longer impressed by it. If your grandma calls, you visit her, but inwardly you're already the guy who lives in Barbados. That inner position is the line. You don't brute force it with closed eyes every time you see a walmart, that's performance, not assumption.

>>40919578
How do you stop noticing that you don't really have your assumption though? Most people doing LOA want 3d results.

>>40919596
You don't "stop noticing" by force, you stop caring. The only reason the 3D bothers you is because you're treating it as the authority. Neville called it the past already dead. If you know you planted the seed, you don't keep staring at the dirt yelling "but nothing’s here yet."

Most people here doing loa get stuck because they're still outcome dependent, they're still waiting for a text, a bank balance, a girlfriend to show up before they'll let themselves feel secure. That's backwards. The assumption is the result. The outer world eventually reflects, but if you're measuring every five minutes, you never actually moved states, you're just sitting in the same old one, hoping it changes.

>>40919142
>>40919207
Pretty much why I stopped helping people out of loa personally, the ones who actually want to understand it have all the available resources for them.

Some people are just forever slaves to the 3D, so there isn't really anything that can be done for them.

How would I go about affirming to get my dick sucked? No specific woman in mind.

>>40919631
List everything you've manifested

Is there any Neville Goddard audiobook that focus mostly on practical applications of LoA instead of Biblical interpretations?

>>40919657
>give me your 3D results
Point proven

>>40919672
>use my belief framework to validate my belief framework!
Lol. So in other words you haven't manifested anything but you use "I have it in the 4D" as a cope.

>>40919699
It's just the truth and the reason you will forever be a slave to the 3D and why the law will never work for you. If you think only 3D "proves" something, you'll be stuck forever chasing shadows. 3D is the lag, 4D is the cause. Demanding receipts before you even try is like asking for the harvest before planting the seed.

The funny part is, you're already manifesting constantly, your doubts, your assumptions, the very idea that "it’s not working" is exactly why your world looks that way.

I don't really care though, I have already won at life and have done everything I wanted to. If you want to stay stuck despite having infinite resources, that's really not my problem.

>be me
>introverted anon from humble background
>even before knowing about LoA I assumed I would land a well-paying job, believing God would provide
>at the company
>normies who were born with the correct surnames and full of charisma are after this position
>I persist in the feeling and keep visualizing myself as the Boss
>weeks later I land one of the best-paid jobs in the country
>life is good for over a year
>during this time I learn about Law of Assumption
>a few days ago
>I catch an influential coworker scheming against me in cahoots with someone genuinely malicious
>get hit like a truck emotionally and I barely eat for a day
>still a bit shaken even now
I know what I’m supposed to do, but I honestly don’t feel strong enough to do it. My mind keeps flooding me with sad, scary, and angry thoughts.
I try to stay positive, relax, and distract myself, but the negativity keeps creeping back in.
I know this mindset doesn’t help with positive manifestations, and that just makes it worse.
Please, help me, anons! What must I do?

>>40919727
You are using your silly law to insist upon itself. You can't even prove to people why it's worth investing into this bullshit because you're a narcissist who wants to have a special power that the poor masses just simply can't comprehend.

>>40919735
Everyone's connected energetically. You could be feeling the thoughts of a person in the next room who's going through something, sad and crying and not even know why you feel sad or depressed. Practice grounding techniques and meditate. This will help you stay in the present moment and in tune with your own thoughts and emotions and flood everything else out.

>>40919727
Nigga I am tired of your lazy ass excuses.
I mean ok 3D lags behind but for fucking how long. When can you “ask” for receipts? Seems to be never.lol
I mean a guy can “don’t care” for months and one day he wakes up and still see no results, and comes here and then you gonna tell him “see? It didn’t work because you WOKE UP and checked the 3D and see no results. You weren’t in state of abundance or you wouldn’t even care about 3D, and since you did after months of not caring, it means you still care”
What a wonderful, non falsifiable excuse.
So what? You gonna “not care” until you are dead? Is that where you going with this?
Keep thinking “lag” until you wake up old and still have nothing. lol

>>40919746
Imagine getting this mad because someone told you reality is shaped by your own assumptions in the loa thread lol. If it’s all bullshit to you, cool, go keep living the same loop of just being a miserable loser. Nobody's forcing you to be here.

>>40919766
No anon. He is getting mad because you basically saying “just believe bro and never care about what you want” but even if years passed, and he tell you about “why I haven’t got what I want yet” you response with “see? You just noticed your life lacks what you want and that means you were in state of lack and not abundance and that’s why you never get your desire”
It pisses off anyone who is getting gaslighted like this

>>40919649
Any help? This board used to assist people

>>40919754
>I mean ok 3D lags behind but for fucking how long.
This is exactly why you people are hopeless. You're demanding timelines from a principle that literally works outside of time. Lag is the nature of how assumptions crystallize into 3D.

You sound like a dude planting seeds, then digging them up every morning to check if they sprouted yet, then sperging out when the dirt looks the same. Of course you'll never see results like that, you're choking them out.

This is why I am done with helping 3D slaves, they don't care to actually even understand the law.

>>40919772
>MUH TIME MUH TIME WHEN IS IT GONNA HAPPEN???
Hopeless.

>>40919766
Sure anon. I believe you've manifested tons of success. That's why youre talking about LOA on 4chan arguing with people.
Why can't you just manifest that doubters go away or better yet that LOA works for everyone so they'll stop bitching?

Oh right, because you've never had results manifest in the 3D and you're just persisting in beliefs until you enter psychosis LOL

>>40919778
>bro just expect it would work
>but the moment you think how come it didn’t after this many years, it’s over
Holyshit this is the craziest gaslighting I ever heard of
Basically, just live on pure hopium and delusion, and NEVER question it until death
Fuck this is diabolical and cruel

>>40919775
You already know what to do, you are just looking for reassurance.

>>40919788
I don't know what to do because I can't do SATS it just feels fake for me. Do I literally just affirm "my dick is being sucked"

>>40919778
>just be happy you have it in your imagination bro!
>what's that? You practiced this technoque because you actually wanted change?
>fucking LOSER the REAL change is being delusional, what more could you ask for?
You will die full of regrets and disappointments

>>40919778
>planting seeds
Nigga walnut takes 20 years to grow, but you AT LEAST see some sprouting in few months.
If I plant something and I don’t see any movement after few weeks or months, I gonna go and check it. Maybe something went wrong.
If I just plant 1000 of walnut seeds and never check on them and not expect them to grow and just “don’t care tm” like you, then I waste 20 years of my life hoping for something that couldn’t come through.
Instead I could have just checked a month or 2 in, add new seeds, check the soil, add fertilizer DO SOMETHING to make it work, instead of wasting life hopiumung and copiuming.
Holy fuck this can cause people to fucking break.
Yeah time is fucking important.

>>40919787
Exactly why you are a 3D slave. You literally think questioning the law is some neutral rational act, when all you're doing is reaffirming the state of lack over and over again.

You think this is cope because you're addicted to the 3D like a druggie. Your mind can't stand the idea that the invisible (assumption, state) comes before the visible (circumstances), so you keep running back to the same dead metric: "WhErEs MuH pRoOf??"

>Basically, just live on pure hopium and delusion
To the 3D slaves this is delusion. That's why Neville called it "dying to this world." Most people don't want to. You'd rather stay stuck, blame the law, and cope by calling it cruel instead of admitting you're creating your own misery.

This will be my last reply, 3D slaves can't understand this.

>>40919821
You still haven't manifested anything btw

>>40919821
Nigga fine.
When I dream things come instantly, when I imagine things come instantly in my imagination. 3D world is way denser and so it’s harder for imagination to become reality as fast as dreams.
That’s established.
But there MUST be a time period for 4d to imprint on 3D, like something must change, small changes.
If I plant a seed tonight, by next day if I pick the dirt, I could see tiny microscopic sprout on it.
Hell, even in my dreams, when I assume, say, a snake is behind the tall grass, I first see a grass movements, then noises, then hissing, and then finally a head of a snake pop out. Even in dreams they are signs before the ACTUAL thing “snake out of tall grass” comes
Question of me, and every other person is this, where are the signs?
And the fucked up part is that you saying if someone checks for signs it’s over, no matter HOW LONG (years) they been living without care for their desires
That’s so fucked up
Again, you got nothing to prove anyway. You keep calling us “3D slaves” yet you are slaves to a bunch of hormones in your brain to give you hopium and “good feel” cause you can’t, and might never experience the real thing

>>40919657
> gIvE mE PrOof!
Holy shit. These brainlets have absolutely zero understanding of what faith and belief means, let alone the capacity for grasping how manifestation works. I am 100% sure these fuckwits have never read Neville's books or the Bible. Either read the books - again and again if you have to - or fuck off and come back when you have the capacity to understand what is written.

>>40919860
3D slaves don't even actually want proof, they want reassurance. They don't care that there are literally thousands of documented success stories, they want someone to spoonfeed them confidence so they don't have to actually assume the end themselves.

That's why they keep whining instead of doing the work.

>>40919860
Yes. Belief requires evidence. Anything else is delusion. No I'm not going to subscribe to your retarded framework if the people touting it can't even prove it works.
>b-but manifestation happens the second you step into the state!
Shut the fuck up. Nobody learns about this stuff because they want to "believe" their wishes are fulfilled. 3d results are the whole point.

>>40919877
>there are literally thousands of documented success stories
HAHAHAHA
NAME FUCKING ONE.
>Muh neville went to Barbados
His family was already rich.
>random Reddit posts
You mean borderline women "manifesting" their exes back?

>>40919882
>Belief requires evidence
As stated before, you have no clue what faith and belief means. Fuck off and play with your cubes, you have no place in a discussion about the immaterial and the spirit.

>>40919860
Nigga I read all the Neville books. And listened to his lectures.
Doesn’t matter
And didn’t improve shit for any of his audiences, nor anyone body who read his shit, or anyone who get into Loa.
You wouldn’t be here if you had a great life. We know that
You keep saying “faith” and “belief” but even fucking Jesus had to pull up some Miracle to establish himself in eyes of people
The whole “Virgin Mary” saga was a prof of god.
I mean imagine a guy come out and said, I am messenger of god and yeah I was just born to a single mom and I got no miracles etc
Fucking no one would believe him and for a good fucking reason too
Foundation of belief is at least a little proof
But yeah, you keep going with your 4d 3D cope until you die of an old age, full of rage and regret
Not saying it is all horseshit cause I seen too many synchronicities and I believe in power of mind, and supernatural, but I don’t believe YOU or people like you who tell us to just “assume till you are dead without achieving what you want and be happy about it”

>>40919893
>if you're retarded enough to believe in something for no reason, here are 8 different beliefs you can adopt
Wow you really got me there
>>40919912
Faith is for the retarded. Provide concrete evidence or fuck off.

>>40919888
>NAME FUCKING ONE.
I have never seen a more hopeless 3D slave in my life.

I can never imagine being so much of a 3D slave to where even the 3D isn't even enough evidence for you.

>>40919877
Shut the fuck up bitch.
Thousands of documented cases my ass
Getting free coffee or a handsome guy or a girl getting a partner is not success story

>>40919772
Then leave you fucking faggot. Not only are you on the paranormal board but also in a thread about a method that is for all intents and purposes magic. This is like going to a golf tournament to argue with people about how hard it is to get good at golf and how golf isn't even a real sport anyways. Get a life.

>>40919912
There's no point in trying to argue with them, they are forever slaves to the 3D, there is nothing you can say to change their minds because they possibly understand how 4D concepts can effect the 3D.

>>40919936
Might have replied to the wrong anon but that goes for all you crybabies bitching about how hard the law is and how you can't get it to work.

earned more then my parents combined in salary but back to being a neet. i dont feel it anymore... might start listening to lectures 24/7 again

>>40919923
I thought you were done replying anon what happened? Can't you just assume I stop posting?

Why are you interacting with the 3D? Are you bored of living in the 4D for today?

>>40919920
> Faith is for the retarded. Provide concrete evidence or fuck off.
Most Reddit post I have ever seen in these threads by far. How did you even manage to come here lmao.

>>40919893
>>40919912
Yes retard
Every one of those fucking religions came with a prophet who provided EXTRAORDINARY miracles for people as a proof o being gods messenger.
They all did.
That’s why they became wide practiced religion, you dumb ass.
>>40919912
>immaterial and the spirit
Oh yeah? Is that why there are thousand and one books about life after death, past lives, etc? Seems like faith is literally runs on proof, and if you don’t have proof you gonna lose your faith.
It’s ok, you tell me about what you actually got. Like no seriously, just tell me a few of the things that you genuinely assumed in 4d, and didn’t give a fuck about in 3D, until one day you woke up and you had. I mean, that’s how it supposed to be, in principle right?
Please, tell me

>>40919956
>most reddit post
>on a thread about Law of Reddit
OK retard

>>40919943
>earned more then my parents combined in salary but back to being a neet
care to elaborate?

>>40919936
Nigger.
Religions is paranormal. Jesus miracles was paranormal, Moses miracles were paranormal. Abraham’s miracles were paranormal. Yet they provided these many paranormal miracles as PROOF that their paranormal belief system was the truth.
It’s hilarious that your examples are all material, like , fuck, golf.
There is LITERALLY no belief only system in the world. And yet somehow you think that loa works and when we say then where is my result you attack us.

>>40919939
>can affect 3D
Funny these cans never became DID for you lol

>>40919948
If this nigga lived in 4d, he wouldn’t even interact with 3D lol.
The fact he still does is proof that he is still a slave to that rise and dump of seretonine and dopamine, and why he is so emotional.
There is no escaping the 3D, no matter how delusional you get

>"hey you should practice this law that changes reality depending on your thoughts. It requires a lot of time and discipline though"
>wow really? That's awesome! Since it's a Law, can you show me instances where your reality changed based on your thoughts?
>"NO YOU FUCKING SLAVE THE LAW IS AXIOMATICALLY TRUE"
>wtf
>"AND YOU SHOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT CHANGING REALITY ANYWAY, THE REAL CHANGE IS INSIDE YOUR HEAD"
The law will never make you a woman

>>40919973
went full belief mode and left my neet hole to another country. pay was good but saw some workers who stayed there long and i left. hopeing for something better but idk.

>Luke 4:24
only thing i can think off. anyway feel fucking bad being in my home town and think I'm going crazy again and i feel like shit constantly

>>40919979
Do you believe in God, or a unifying conscious force? If your answer is no, you will just get frustrated here. Unless you are a paid shill fucking up this thread (in which case, I am actually sorry for you having such a shitty job), go and enjoy your day without LoA. It is not for you - pat yourself on the shoulder for rising above the woo-woo people, and go to your merry way. Wish you the best!

>>40919993
the law doesn't exist

"everything is gaslighting" and "something deep, personal and spiritual needs to act like an exact science or is not real" is the new /LoA/ shitposting meta?

>>40920007
I believe in a higher power

>>40920007
No I am not trying to fucking convert you to “le science” or whatever
I am saying your method or whatever is just flat out crazy, and outright cruel
Basically believe that something works, and don’t care about 3D. But if you wake up 10 years from now on, and checked and saw you are still unfulfilled with your desire, then THATS WHY you didn’t get your desire fullfilled, cause you “check le seeds” or whatever
That’s the frustrating, fucked up part
Like you don’t say “hmm, maybe my way is wrong” no you say “just don’t check, don’t care” that’s not how anyone think
Even religions don’t operate like this
Tldr your method of “loa” is fucking wrong, and your lack of proof makes it more obvious too

>>40920036
“Believe you achieve your desire in your head and just live by it, without caring about 3D, but if you checked it 10 years from now and saw no signs, it’s your fault” is literally a decade long gaslighting
Basically the promise is “be unfulfilled, but don’t even be mad about it, nor do anything to alleviate the issue, just fucking cope and give yourself a massive stroke once you realized you wasted you life 30 years from now”
It’s really cruel

>>40920036
Cmon. If its so real and you're apparently so good at it, then what have YOU accomplished with it?
You're going to retort with "3D Slave" because it's a question that forces you to acknowledge that you haven't seen actual movement outside your imagination.

The real slave is you. You're like a betafag on a leash who acts super "nice" to women, calling other guys "incels". Deep down he's really just doing this to get laid and he's been simping for the same girl for 5 years without even so much as a nipslip, but by God he'll keep trying!

>>40920044
>Even religions don’t operate like this
Because most of the organized ones are cerebral shampoo to mindslave people and use their beliefs and moral for mundane goals.
Praying and doing LoA are the same. Praying asking for everything in the "if the Lord wills it" way like most organized religions "teach" you is stupid.

>>40918421
If there are any trannies they just refer to themselves as women
>>40918690
>Group of people who want to change their physical form more than the average person
There's more than you think on /x/

>>40920090
No I am saying even religions didn’t start with “hurr durr just belief without proof”
They allegedly had crazy miracles as a proof of their messenger status
These loa people want a religion status without even providing proof is the frustrating part

>>40920130
lol Chris Chan was famous for watching hours of YouTube affirmations to get a vagina
He got a vagina monkey paw style lol

>>40920044
Ooh, I get it now. Due to lack of pussy to embarrass around you, you come here with your white knightink larp as a surrogate source for you identity. You are here to save the christian villagers going to church, from Jesus. Like some retarded Don Quixote. Amazing! Thanks for the hearty kek.

>>40920182
Wtf
Are you you high? Dumb? Or just plain illiterate?
I know paranormal exist, I am saying YOUR SHIT DOESNT WORK, your method doesn’t work, your “believe without proof EVER” is fucking messed up and lack of proof is evidance of that
What the fuck you going on with don quixote and the church?
All I am saying is to let’s re-examine this shit that clearly doesnt work, and maybe come up with something that actually works.
But nooooooo “I must belIEVe till I am dead”
And trust me, you guys don’t have anything to add to my identity kek

>>40920130
makes sense

>>40916561
Thanks man, great advice!

>>40919939
>>40919912
>>40919877
Most people in these threads have observed, at the bare minimum, that thoughts have an impact on the world around us.
People are trying to discuss how to actually harness this power to their benefit and most of us notice that following a book written by a 1950s conman isn't giving us any results.

So yes, when you come in shitting up the discussion calling people slaves for not adhering to methods that aren't serving them, they're going to want receipts. Is your retarded drivel actually worth listening to, or are you just some fag who thinks he's succeeding because Neville would be proud of him?

>>40920233
Again, this is why you will forever be a 3D slave. You call Neville a conman because his methods don't give you instant dopamine hits, while ignoring the fact that your own thoughts are the very reason you're failing. You've admitted thoughts affect reality, yet the moment someone tells you to take responsibility for your assumptions, you cope by demanding receipts as if there aren't thousands if success stories you can read in the /loa/ thread library or just by using google.

Nobody is telling you to worship Neville. He just explained a principle. You either apply it and test it with persistence, or you stay in the endless loop of looking for "muh proof." That's not discussion, you are begging for reassurance.

The truth is, the methods aren't serving you because you aren't serving them.

>>40920248
If you're so certain fo the right way to do things then why don't you have any success stories? Why should anyone listen to you?

>>40920273
I literally posted my BMW with timestamps last thread. I don't need to keep reposting proof every time some 3D slave demands to be spoonfed reassurance.

You don't actually want success stories, you want to be convinced for the hundredth time so you don't have to take responsibility for your own assumptions. That's why you will forever stay stuck.

>>40920295
Ignore them BMWanon. I've posted some great success here over the years and I get about 80% positive reactions and about 20% negativity no matter what you say or do. They are sad losers stuck in their shitty lives. We've all been there and someday they'll get it.

Congrats on the car. I've enjoyed your posts

>>40920295
>>40920309
Why do you assume other people are slaves and that you'll get up to 20% negative response rate?
Why not assume success and reciprocation in this thread?

>>40920309
Appreciate it. And yeah, that's exactly what I mean, no matter what you post, there's always a couple of people who want to drag it down because they can't stand that it actually works. Why they would even be in this thread if they think it's fake is beyond me.

Not my problem though, I already know this stuff is real.


>>40920330
It's literally just you and one other person sperging lol. Don't project that onto the whole thread. The rest either get it or move on.

>>40920354
The negativity is still a byproduct of your inner world according to your own beliefs. It obviously bothers you so why do you assume it exists? Don't dodge responsibility, anon.

Did (You), as time and experience in conscious manifestation piled up, stop feeling giddy from seeing your assumption definitively play out in the 3D? I really don't want that to happen to me, that feeling is liberating as fuck every single time

>>40920248
>wanting results
>instant gratification
Bro you guys are mad goofy. This is not “instant” we just want some fucking signs
>>40920295
Ok bmw anon/ tell us how long it took you from starting to finish (I believe you just moving out of your parents home, not even 20, and is a millionaire now)
And did you literally just assumed without checking? Not even once? And there was no signs and your cousin just died and gave you money? Like literally no cousin you knew and next day it’s a dead cousin that has you in his will?
>>40920309
Ok anon you also tell me about your successes too. Tell me how long it took you? Tell me if there was any signs? Tell me about it all please
I am not trying to argue with either of you guys, I am just wanna know how long it too

Some of you faggots are never going to get your desires, and you'll really only have yourselves to blame.

The reason some people here actually succeed is because they stop whining, take accountability, and actually apply the fucking law. They persist. They don't cry that it's "too hard" or spam the same dumb questions over and over.

You literally have access to the knowledge that you can change your life with imagination alone. There are people out there in worse conditions will never even hear about this. And you sit here wasting it, jerking off to success stories and then crying that nothing happens.

The truth is that if you've been at this for months/years and you're still exactly where you started, it's not that the law doesn't work, It's you. Laziness, overconsumption, no persistence, no discipline.

I am not saying you won't have setbacks, everyone does. But you either get back up and persist or you rot in the same shitty loop forever. The clock doesn't stop. One day turns into a year real fast, and then you'll be right back here posting "why hasn't it happened yet?" while other anons are living exactly what they wanted.

So ask yourself, do you actually want the life you keep bitching about, or do you just want to whine for another year while nothing changes?

Nobody's going to save you. Either claim your shit and persist, or just accept you'll die forever bound to the 3d.

>>40920483
why are you demending him for stories? you know he can easily make up anything, i believe in the law, but anyone can make up stories

>>40920494
Because I just wanna see. Suprisingly most people are honest and thus bad at lying.

>>40920490
Thanks brother, the first good post in this thread since many hours

>>40920490
Nigger
Presisiting without reassurance is retarded
You can’t get up for no reason. Get up from where exactly? You didn’t even move an inch forward cause there is no sign.
>The clock doesn't stop. One day turns into a year real fast, and then you'll be right back here posting "why hasn't it happened yet?" while other anons are living exactly what they wanted.
Lmao more like other anons still “preisoosting” and coping without any signs

>>40920490
>persist in belief for months
>eventually wake up one day and realize nothing happened
>"it's your fault for noticing that nothing happened"
Yet you fags will also admit that it's okay to acknowledge the 3D when the dissonance becomes too obvious.
A little compassion instead of drilling defeatist rhetoric when your entire belief model revolves around assumptions would be better. But all you fags ever do is LARP in pretentious buzzwords and unfalsifiable claims whenever someone has even the slightest amount of difficulty.

What would even be the point of these threads if people weren't struggling? You insufferable faggot.

>Consciousness is the cause as well as the substance of the entire world.
How does a thing cause itself?

Oh none of this is real it was just a manic episode triggered by reading that stupid book while i was high
This stuff is easy to believe when you're miserable and lonely I guess

>>40920483
>Ok bmw anon/ tell us how long it took you from starting to finish
Probably around three to four months.

>And did you literally just assumed without checking?
Well I mean I had some trouble early on but eventually I just locked in and just with full faith.

>And there was no signs and your cousin just died and gave you money?
If there were signs I never noticed them, and yes, a cousin that I never even knew existed died from a house fire and included me in his will for some reason. Apparently he got rich because he owned a bunch of applebees franchises in the midwest and was close to my dad I guess? I don't know that whole situation kind of still creeps me out.

>>40920490
>The truth is that if you've been at this for months/years and you're still exactly where you started, it's not that the law doesn't work, It's you. Laziness, overconsumption, no persistence, no discipline.
So if someone stays in this for 10 years, he is still at fault for failure, because he noticed it was a failure?
You can’t get more cruel in a belief system than this
Guy does everything right, believe, never pays attention to 3D, outright ignore trying to do anything to get that goal cause it’s come from “place of need and lack” and wakes up one day, and realizes he wasted his life chasing bullshit and your repaonse to him is that “aha! You paid attention to the 3D, so it means you were never over it, and that’s why your desire wasn’t manifested. It was YOUR FAULT”
Damn fucking cold
I really “manifest” that one of this poor absurd souls loses it, goes postal, and goes on a killing spree of these loa faggots.
They really deserve it

>>40920604
Ok fair enough
Thank you bmwanon

>>40920604
Oh and I forgot, would you go over your version of list method again please?
Thanks

>>40920626
to be fair, you don't "waste" anything with this, you are just told to do S.A.T.S, affirm and change your mindset, yes, you have to give time in reading Goddard's books and such, but don't pretend as if you have much to lose by following the law, i got into this by the mindset of having nothing to lose by trying, in part

>>40920641
Just make a list on your phone of everything you want, and just affirm that everything in your list is true/coming true until you get in the state.

>>40920626
>So if someone stays in this for 10 years, he is still at fault for failure, because he noticed it was a failure?
lol that's not how the law works, if someone doesn't get there desire in TEN YEARS, they were for sure not in the state. That's the exaggeration your ego is projecting because it can't handle the responsibility of actually creating your world.

The point is simple, most people never fully commit to the assumption. They "half-believe," hop in and out of states, doubt constantly, overconsume info, and then cry about wasted time. That's why the Law "doesn't work" for them. It's not cruel, it's just cause and effect, plain and simple.

Blaming the Law or fantasizing about violent revenge just proves you don't understand it. If anything, it's a warning you need to chill the hell out, stop externalizing failure, and take responsibility for your assumptions. That's literally the whole point.

I experience a shit ton of synchronicities everyday. What do? What's it mean?

>be gamedev
>assume my project is done
>no longer feel need to work on it because the "i made game" emotion is fulfilled
How does this work? Obviously I have to make the game because I want the game to be made by me and not cucked out to someone else.

>>40920527
>>40920548
>>40920626
Why are you still here? If you convinced the law is fake, then why are you wasting your time here? Why do you feel the need to sperg and shit up the thread?

>>40920741

Nah there's someone that legitimately has blockages like me. I have childhood trauma, severe social anxiety ever since middle school etc. For the past 5 years I tried every method, from sats, affirmations, universal line. Nothing manifested, not even these synchronicities people are reporting. And I did it right, I have read 3 neville's books and applied them. Only focusing on 4D, ignoring 3D as it's fake etc. Still nothing. So yeah if you're unhealthy and traumatized like me ts is not gonna work no matter what

>>40920683
Sure but say you wanna, I don’t know, get a haram of 18 year old latinas, or have a 500k yearly passive income.
You can
A) bust your ass off working, invest in correct stocks and bonds, network the right people, maybe get some insider info etc
Also learn bachata, maybe playing an instrument, and hit the gym harder, and try to lookmax for your harem
Or
B) just freaking affirm you look sexy as hell, and everyone wants you, and that you got that harem and you are a millionaire etc
I can mix a+b and I know I am not wasting my life cause I am still doing shit
But I feel like if I mix a+b then I am basically “coming from place of lack” and so b won’t work because assumption is without work.
But if I do B only, I feel like I am just wasting my time, and the lack of signs won’t help me either. Like I wanna go lock in with belief, but I can’t when I can instead do something about it “physically”
I hope you understand where I am coming from
Now if it was something like “I affirm an Orange bmw” whatever, then I can do that while working on my other stuff, cause frankly, I don’t give a fuck about car model I am driving
>>40920700
Thanks bmwanon
May other unknown people include you in their wills too

>>40920800
>I have childhood trauma, severe social anxiety ever since middle school etc.
>I have childhood trauma
>I have
…so why do you accept that? That's literally the mindset keeping you locked in it. Trauma, social anxiety, whatever "blocks" you think you have, those aren't immutable. You've been feeding them by giving them attention, by assuming they define your reality.

The Law doesn't care about your past or your story. It only responds to the state you occupy now. If you focus on the 4D but still cling to "i have trauma, I'm broken, nothing works," you're literally contradicting yourself. That's exactly why nothing manifested. It's not a problem with Neville or the Law, it's a problem with YOUR assumption.

Stop giving the 3D a reason to reflect your past. Occupy the state of the healed, capable, wealthy, confident version of yourself, and watch the world follow.

>>40920827

Again, I never even thought about trauma, anxiety, or blockages UNTIL AFTER I was already unsuccessful years after trying

>>40920896
You might take a Jungian approach of integrating your negative past with the whole picture of you being successful in the present. It's a big hurdle but it's easier to impress upon your mind than "it never happened"

>>40920800
Brother, people with severe health issues pulled themselves with the law and healed them selves entirely, we have no excuses of "we have it too hard".

>>40920916
Like, something I've accepted with my SP is that our relationship had a period where she wasn't eager to talk to me.
There's nothing that can be done about that. I've lived through her silence. I just decide that it doesn't have any profound meaning on the quality of our relationship if she's decided I'm her man.
That sounds much easier than telling myself "she was always into me"

>>40913462
Ty ty! Peace and Love <3

>>40920941

i have both health issues and trauma. 10+ chronic health issues ever since getting covid years ago. Now I cant sleep normally, if I overdo affirms in the slightest ill sleep for 4 hours max. lost weight now look like skeleton. Etc. Shell of a former self.

What is your opinion on Joseph Murphy?

Welp, just found out it's real

My whole life has been a fucking lie

>>40920154
Nah I want a bigger dick as a woman
>>40920223
LOA is pretty fembrained anyways

>>40921257
You posted this on reddit a while ago, didn't you?

>>40920490
LoA needs more of this. It's not quite door slamming but it's not stupid rampaging either.

>>40920741
That’s just an example nigga. Not literal.
but why do you think it won’t take 10 or more years? Law operate beyond time, so 10 seconds or 10 years, all the same.
>>40920783
Yep so freaking confusing
>>40920800
Yep and now that you looked at the signs, it’s YOUR FAULT.
Seriously man, thanks to mistreatments, I always feel like I am some sort of sex predator, stalker, harassed, even though I never done anything, nor had an intention of doing anything to any woman of any age.
How can I even begin removing 15 years of negetive chitchat in my head? Assume it away? Lmao
>>40920827
>that’s why you didn’t manifest
I just LOVE how they cling to “signs” to say why you couldn’t manifest lmaooo
>>40921269
You do you. But if I was you, I would try to live as healthy and stress free as possible, so I can live until singularity and get the body that I want

https://cleostoohot.tumblr.com/post/695009859564978176/my-long-awaited-void-state-success-story-%C2%B3-some

https://www.tumblr.com/voidsuccessarchive/

https://www.tumblr.com/search/void%20success?src=typed_query


The void state is easy for you.
You are a master at the void state.
You will wake up with everything you want.
Why do you always enter the void every night?
I'm so glad you got all your desires from the void state!
See you on the other side...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNMd3Tu1Zw

>>40920683
Are you Haibane-anon? I'm the cat guy. Can you believe I haven't used affirmations yet? I feel like I sound desperate doing this... assuming and doing SATS seem like a better way to do it. Do you recommend using affirmations?

>>40915912
Yeah Neville has said plenty of times you can do this but he pleads for you to not do so. He lived by the Golden Rule

>>40921512
>You do you.
Thanks :)
>But if I was you, I would try to live as healthy and stress free as possible, so I can live until singularity and get the body that I want
That's what I'm trying to do, at least this is how I tried to cope to not troon out but maybe I can do both

What is everyones opinions on subliminals

>>40921941
I like to think they work. I have a hunch that they probably work better if you listen to them while in a theta state, similar to how hypnotist are able to talk to someone's subconscious by first putting them in a deep relaxing state

>>40921952
What about looping them when I'm asleep?

>>40921957
That would probably be more ideal than listening to them when you're fully awake. I've tried listening to subliminals in my sleep but my earbuds always end up falling out sometime during the night and ruining the experience. Get some good sleeping headphones/earbuds

>>40921971
I will just play them on my portable speaker about a meter from my bed. The only thing that fills me with any doubt is that it's always women manifesting love etc and not many male examples to look at.

>>40918567
international rotary, the umbrella philanthropic designator of all lottery winnings, for my assumptions are weighed against all the souls of the world to have existed in the previous 1,500 hours, presently exist, and are to exist in the next 1,500 hours
no, I am not the Jesus

>>40920794
He is retarded. He want to "discuss" or to "troll" but can't do it in another place so he cames to non mundane threads to cry about how they're about non mundame things and if they're real they need to be mundane, asking for proof and making fun of you.

>>40912352 (OP)
What happens if there are people who want to manifest the opposite of what I want to manifest?

I want to manifest the legalization of zoosexaulity in America.

>>40920067
It's not cruel. It's a skill issue. Not in the "you're doing something wrong with the law" way but int the "you're just plain retarded".
If you see if not working, you can try other things but if is not working at all for you after a long time, you should move to do candle shit or other "elaborate" magiks or just be a full time realitycuck and go somewhere else.
If you stay, it's your fault. If you're desperate an your only solution is the law and you fail, is your fault. If you're "suffering" or putting too much effort in this, it's your fault (and feeling it's a chore or need too much effort is a certified way to fail btw but it's a "focusing in the metrics" problem or a just plain retarded problem).
>“be unfulfilled, but don’t even be mad about it, nor do anything to alleviate the issue, just fucking cope and give yourself a massive stroke once you realized you wasted you life 30 years from now”
this you says you've been doing it wrong and in reverse but anyway, some people don't like to be the problem and some people need metrics on everything and this is a personal, internal, subjective thing so centering on the metrics is just asking for failure.
And if you are "doing this" for a long time, I imagine you first chased your proofs. I've done it, that's why I believe in the law. My belief doesn't come from stories about other or from being desperate. There is a reason why Neville asked you to not to wait to be on a dire situation to plant seed in your life, but is not mentioned too much because the already overcomplicate-ing folks will implode trying to understand that and the "circumstances doesn't matter" at the same time.
TLDR: If you're "tired" of doing this for too much time, the "tired" part is already a problem, but the problem it's you because you should've moved long ago and do something else with your life. You're being cruel with yourself. Your life is ALWAYS your responsibility, LoA or not. If you don't have your own proofs you're a clown.

How do I make it happen fast? If disbelief is the only thing making it slow, why don't schizos have everything they want?

Can LoA do things where you would have to change realities for it to make sense, e.g. making an object appear behind a door?

>>40920083
>Cmon. If its so real and you're apparently so good at it, then what have YOU accomplished with it?
lmao. I'm tired to type the same story just to be called a larper so you post makes no sense to me.
I'm not gonna dox myself or put my family into danger of being trolled/bullied, nor I'm gonna do a power point presentation with photos and time stamps just to make a rude and retarded barking stranger happy in a basket weaving forum. Believer or not, chase your own proof or get out faggot.
Pic related. If you know, you know, if you don't, I couldn't care less, I'm not gonna trigger the lonerfags, the poorfags and the anti-tripsfags and lose my time writing something just to b called a larper by any retard with no life whatsoever. If you're still here, as a skeptic or as a failed believer, it's you own fault.

If I were to affirm that I have a child, how exactly would that come about?

>>40922157
They're too occupied being manipulated into hating, being chased by the government and falling for it again in general to make something real and great with their lifes.
That's why they're voting for king pedo to combat pedos while being fucked with everything else in their lives. The same as the coomer, that is always thinking in sex but as the orgasms hits and fades, the post nut clarity tell them what is the real state they are and what are they really feeling and thinking about.
You could name survivorship bias too but science and metrics don't mix well with LoA.

>>40922157
>How do I make it happen fast? If disbelief is the only thing making it slow
Speed in loa isn't about "how hard you believe" or how detached from reality you are, it's about dwelling in the state naturally. Neville said delay only comes from not fully accepting the wish fulfilled as the present fact.

>why don't schizos have everything they want?
Schizos don't manifest everything they want because their minds are fragmented, like usually they might believe five contradictory things at once. It's not "disbelief" in the sense of being skeptical, it's being unstable in imagination. One moment they are king of the world, the next they are being hunted by CIA agents. It's a scattered state.

To make it fast you don't actually try to force speed. You remove the idea of waiting altogether. Time is only the delay you imagine between desire and fulfillment. Lock into the end and live there. If you do that, it feels instant because you stop asking "where is it?" and you stop dividing yourself between two states.

>>40922174
You're not supposed to figure out the how when using loa. You assume the end and let the bridge of incidents unfold.

strange, i saw in my dream that i had won 60 bucks on lottery and when i woke up that is exactly what i got.

>>40922565
Was it enough to pay off your $1500 a month in OF subscriptions?

>>40922565
That's not strange, that's literally how it works. The dream was just your subconscious showing you the state before it hardened into 3D. Neville talked about this, imaginal acts and dreams aren't separate from reality, they are reality in seed form.

You didn't predict winning $60, you experienced it in imagination first, then it played out physically. Same principle applies whether it's sixty bucks or two billion. The dream was the bridge.

It's actually common for lottery winners to have dreams of winning before they win in the 3D.

https://youtu.be/BAQRa5BwpJ4?si=xI9KHY_5oBI_90RT

https://youtu.be/V-tt8250ue8?si=b59YQZt_jHx-5GEJ

https://youtu.be/yy69WCruu08?si=Gb5ZSfYnTinOd171

>>40922592
60 bucks is quite significant amount to win since it requires 5 out of 7 numbers right. it is my sign to keep on going.

>>40922610
>>40922565
small update, even though the betting agency says that it should take 1-3 working days for the money to arrive it came immediately on a sunday when i authorized the transaction. i had a distinct feeling the money would be with me the next time i check my bank account.

>>40921733
Hey cat guy, I'm the anon who said I would manifest for you a thread or two ago. I did and I believe it will happen.

>>40920483
>309
I first read about this stuff some time in 2022 or 2023. Since then I've bought a house, a new car (already paid off), gotten incredible career opportunities i never thought I'd have, easy money, good health, and even a few SPs (i only recommend this for sex, not relationships, but this is kind of personal hangup for me).
I don't know what you mean by signs.
I think of it like reading the last page of a book, then going back to read it. You know what's coming so you can just sit back and enjoy the story unfolding. My path has not at all gone the way i expected and it's been fun to experience it. I usually see some kind of movement within a week or two. Depends on what I'm manifesting for how long the full thing takes.

Wait, do niggers have consciousness? So many blacks in loa communities

>Be me
>Keep repeating affirmation and revising
>Go to sleep
>Wake up inside dream
>Cat is missing
>Go to be in the dream
>Start manifesing seeing my cat again inside the dream
This was something i had done some months ago and the cat came back.
But what baffles me is that i was manifesting inside the dream

>>40921733
YES, use affirmations, but make sure it's done with intent and the right feeling put into them, don't affirm out of begging, lack or as if you are asking for the cat to appear again, do it with confidence, as if you are declaring a fact, do it as if the cat has returned already in front of your eyes, not with the mindset of asking for some "higher power" to make the cat return.

i am becoming more and more GP pilled, the SP's are nice but there is nothing preventing a GP from being all that and so much more. i don't need to limit myself to a relationship that most likely isn't going to work the way i want it to.

Dreamt about my SP last night. In the dream I lived next door to her and her mom. I kept catching glimpses inside her apartment—first a crack in the door, then silhouettes in the window, then full-on visibility as if her space was opening up to me.

At one point I was sitting outside in the hallway near her door meditating, trying not to be a creep but sneaking peeks anyway. I saw a silhouette of a car in her apartment with blue and red mights flashing. A middle aged man stepped out of the car and approached me telling me I might as well wire the place if I wanted a good look. He also implied he was sleeping with her, which felt like a taunt. He walked off.

Later, she opened her door and I was suddenly inside her apartment. She didn’t act weird about it. There was some kind of group fitness session going on, which was weird because she didn't seem particularly athletic. And her hair was tied into a ponytail instead of her signature flat bangs/shoulder length cut. We ended up sitting next to each other—our feet touched, then our hands locked during stretches, and she giggled. Felt like real closeness.

Then the dream turned into group games. I didn’t understand the rules, but she patiently explained them to me while I was laying on the floor. Her vibe was more accepting than judgmental. Maybe not closely intimate but it set a scene where she was definitely warm to me.

Dream ended with random Wii U/PS2 emulator imagery, which might’ve just been brain static.

Maybe it's a sign my subconscious is catching up to the idea that I did nothing wrong by being interested in her. I have a pretty good feeling about it.

>>40922936
Cat guy here, I'll keep manifesting, and if possible, I ask that you do too. One of the cats has been missing for a year, the other will be missing for five months. It's really difficult, especially since I don't have the time or money to search for them all over town. Other people have to do it. I'm constantly manifesting that someone told me they found the pet.

>>40923726
Thanks, I'll start using affirmations!

Pray: worship Jesus. This stuff seems inherent to the process that was outlined by our Lord and Savior.

Which Neville Goddard books have you found to be the most helpful?

>>40924188
5 lessons or your faith is your fortune, he says important things in one that he never repeats in other books, so you must read all of them if you have not

>>40922072
No you are just retarded and put words into my mouth.
No where I said it’s not real or that there is no paranormal
I am saying THIS WAY “believe believe believe without proof and if you check you failed” it’s not the way. Cause it clearly doesn’t working.
>>40922136
Sure, if I stay with something that doesn’t work, that’s my fault.
But to say that “well it didn’t WORK cause you checked 10 years later” or “it didn’t work cause you “worked” toward it (read: tried some mundane shit to make it a reality) and not because this type of law practice is bullshit, well that’s the fault of people pushing it.
And I really don’t expect them to say “I apologize anon” lol
I expect them to say “whelp worked for me, but maybe something else work for you”
And I agree, if you try and sort of paranormal shit for DIRE situations without having proof of it working for simple shit, it gets real frustrating cause there is no way to test and measure it. (Most of the time)
Guess the biggest issue with this method of “believe without proof” is that no signs would show up.
>>40922172
Never heard of it. If it’s an interesting story, please share it. Thank you
>>40922936
By signs I meant movement. Because apparently if you check for them, you failed
But it’s good to hear your story. Congrats on your successes man.

>my fiance sends me money all the time
>but I totally manifested this guys, omg!
Most remarkable LOA success story btw

>>40924670
>I am saying THIS WAY “believe believe believe without proof and if you check you failed” it’s not the way.
If you really were in the state you would never feel the need to check it. You need to have faith in the process before you see proof in the 3D, it's just how this works. There is no way around this.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

>>40924746

>>40924746

>>40924746

>>40924725
You can't completely ignore the 3d forever. Eventually you wake up and NOTICE, not consciously check, but NOTICE that you don't have the money, gf, or career opportunities even though you've been telling yourself that you do for the past 6 months.

>>40924767
You are being a 3D slave by being so concerned about what's in the 3D and what isn't. "noticing” is just checking in disguise. Neville never said you wouldn't see the opposite, he said you don't give it authority and let it be your bitch. The whole 3D is nothing but the echo of your old state, so of course it's going to show you lack for a while.

If you keep deciding that what you notice is more real than what you assume, then you're literally re-affirming the old state every morning. That's why people spin their wheels for 6 months, they're more loyal to what their senses report instead of what they've claimed.

You don't have to ignore the 3D, but you do have to stop being it's slave. Otherwise you'll always be "waiting to notice" instead of actually living in the end.

>>40924793
Stay “liberated” from until you die a penniless broken incel loser
Or maybe earlier when you wake up one day and notice you got nothing and you die from a massive stroke
You do you man, but I don’t want to lose my chance in life. I mean wouldn’t you say that “working” toward your goal or dream is also come from “state of lack”?
Then it means I can either work toward something and hope it works enough
Or do your method of loa and HOPE it works
Which one do you think gonna make me lose it the fastest, considering one is basically fails the moment you notice lack of progress?

>>40924793
You're an idiot if you don't think noticing is involuntary.

>>40924857
Nobody is telling you to sit in a dark room and hope. Neville wasn't preaching passivity, he was saying the origin of everything is your assumption. If you work while in the state of lack, you just multiply lack. If you work while in the state of having, the actions flow naturally and confirm the end.

That's the difference between grinding out of fear and moving from fulfillment. One is survival mode, the other is creation.

You talking about being ann incel already shows you the state you're loyal to. You can't hide it. Your fear is your faith, faith in failure. That's the only reason you would frame it as hope vs hope.

You don't have to stop acting in the 3D, you just have to stop worshipping it as if it's the source. Until you get that, you'll always be playing defense against your own reflection.

>>40924900
For the last time, noticing ISNT the problem. Everyone notices. The issue is what you do WITH the noticing.

Neville noticed lack too, he just refused to give it authority. You call it involuntary because you assume every thought and perception has power over you and it doesn't. The only thing that matters is the meaning you assign and whether you return to the state or keep bowing to appearances.

>>40924793
>3D slave
Do us all a favor and stop trying to force this meme. We can identify your retarded posts across all the threads. Thanks

>>40924942
Well it's just true, you are a bitch to the 3D by giving it authority over your life, thus making you a 3D slave and I will forever call you this until you are not.

No way around this, sorry.

>>40924965
>haha joke's on you I'm gonna keep being retarded

>>40924979
Better than being not having my desires and being a 3D slave

>>40924989
But you DON'T have your desires. You larp as of you do and tell yourself that your imagination is more important than the real world.