Thread 40934351

Hello /x/. I've created a diagram that should prove astrology to anyone not utterly committed to keeping their heads in the sand. The quality is a bit borked by 4chan's upload limits, but you can find a higher resolution version here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GytJYGVXkAARt02?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

The results are really striking. All the Taurus Moon guys have this certain placid, self-satisfied air... a bit like a cow.

>>40934351 (OP)
do with sun signs

>>40934456
Yes, master.

>>40934351 (OP)
What was that term for a peculiar study that involved physiology combining that with astrology?

Something about people born under the astrological signs show actual physical characteristics of sorts?

>>40934456
Matter of fact, do it yourself if you really care.

>>40934521
I've seen the term "astrophysiognomy" used.

In the case of the Pisces Moon guys, they have these curious, seeking eyes... except the young ones, who look rather blank.

Bataille in particular (Pisces Moon and Rising) really does resemble a fish.

>>40934351 (OP)
Does anybody really believe astrology? It says nothing about you, literally. Like, I'm sorry but how does the position of celestial bodies determine your character traits?

I'm a Pisces, February 20th 1999, and I've seen both natal charts and character examinations of this (I even gave time of birth and place) and while it got some things right, rest of the things were just broad strokes and honestly misses. It was claimed I am Aries moon and Scorpio rising and it claimed basically that I was Batman and it's just so comically off wrt who I actually am - very lighthearted, fun and outgoing.

Nor do I look like anyone in the Aries cathegory. I am very stocky and round, look approachable and soft, like the kid from Up.

Anyways, not shitting on you brother but I personally do not buy it. Respect to you though.

>>40934351 (OP)
>White people only
Yawn. Bummer, because this would be cool otherwise, but I am tired of you people trying to make one race look superior to others. Try again without mental restrictions of race.

>>40935803
You have Mercury in Pisces, which makes you long-winded. It also predisposes you to keep talking about your own opinion and ignore the new evidence in front of you.

Even if you personally don't look very much like Andre Gregory, (in part because you're 26, not French, etc.) it's still notable that he shares resemblance with the other guys in the Aries Moon and Scorpio Rising categories. And many of these guys are quite famous, making it hard to say that I simply cherry-picked confirming data.

>how does the position of celestial bodies determine your character traits?
I don't know, but being able to explain _why_ something happens is unnecessary to simply observe _that_ it happens.

>>40935830
That's just a scientific control, did you even read the blurb?

>>40936579
Ayo, read mine.

>>40935803
>>40936614
You guys can use deep seek to make your astral map, that's actually something that AI is pretty good for.

Share results, I'm curious

>>40935830
>marx
>kissinger
>lavey

You should be complaining about the fact Jews are being pushed as white, retard.

>>40936743
https://pastebin.com/3gu3SAyz

>>40936579
Yeah, and your scientific control is bullshit because it's biased by race.

Contribooting. Hey, be sure to check peoples second houses to know about the face. Remember, the second natural house is taurus. Which corresponds to the face

>>40936875
Even im not white and you sound like a faggot. Wah wah muh race. Shut up fag

>>40936743
Using AI for natal chart readings is great if you don't care about truth and just want to be handed a personal narrative. An automated cold reader.

>>40936875
Look at black guys on famouspeople.astro-seek. See how they compare with the white guys with the same moon and rising. Go ahead. No one's stopping you.

>>40936900
Traditionally anyway, Taurus and the 2nd House correspond to the neck. Admittedly, that's a bit harder to research, though. People don't photograph the neck how they do the face, for obvious reasons.

>>40934672
>>40934405
Do Aries Moons, please!!

>>40934351 (OP)
the formatting on these names is fucking unreadable what is the order of this
i don't recognize cancer moon libra rising and i cannot find it

I would like to know more

>>40935830
if you think whites aren't superior please feel free to stop speaking english, using any modern technology and go to africa so you can get raped.

>>40934351 (OP)
cool thing i ran into yesterday. i have some unusual stuff in my chart and was reading into one of the things (OOB venus) and saw someone who had it with a mutual reception w/ mercury taurus like me.

Looked into their chart and they had a ton of similar things to me:
>all personal planets and nodes same sign
>day chart with all the final dispositors being nocturnal (with one being the oob venus/mercury mutual reception) (also rules 5 houses total same as me)
>that venus/mercury is the final dispositor for their ruling sign and sun
>out of sect mars aries final dispositor for 6 houses, including saturn. jupiter is ruled by saturn which is ruled by mars. (they were different signs but same rulership)
>cancer moon rules itself

different houses (he is just +2) and outer planets but was still interesting to stumble

was curious how often the conditions we shared would occur (to track disposition chain stuff I permitted any sign w/ the same rulership), ran a script w/ swiss ephemeris and from 10k bc to 10k ad it only occurred 2 days around when I was born and 2 days when around when they were born.


for a weird thing I'm also personality model stuff and he had stuff people had submitted on one of those sites. i'm a pretty weird type
intp 5w4 549 sp/sx
he had the exact same thing (this is several personality models combined so all together extremely unlikely)
was cool to find, might do some more digging to see if I can find any chart commonalties with personality types I imagine at least there would be some correlation with some stuff on the charts
Sadly he's the only notable person born on that date, got a book by him I really identified with his life from what I read about it.

>>40937339
In a way I already have, but here you go. They all have an intense gaze that really confronts you, and an aquiline nose.

>>40937422
The table of names is in two columns, with alternating black and white text. The Cancer Moon, Libra Rising guy is Giacomo Puccini.

>>40937466
Well you're in luck! Because there is so much more to know...

>>40937664
>Aries Moon
Tyyy

>>40937201
I know its the neck but when researching astrological face reading thats what the instructor said. I thought "wouldnt it be aries"? But within this context aries is more the tip of the skull and taurus is raised a bit also. At any rate, the point still stands: to know about the face, check the second house. What planets are there or where is the ruler of said house

The Capricorn Moons. Strong jawlines and prominent cheekbones. Tired, deep-set eyes with downward canthal tilts, that glance almost mistrustfully away from the photographer. Pursed lips. A silently judgmental air.

I also find it interesting how in the case of Robert Rauschenberg and George Clooney (top right and bottom right, respectively), who each have the Ascendant in one of the two signs ruled by Jupiter, the shifty-eyed look seems to open up into a broader sense of exploration.

Sagittarius Moon chads (like me) often possess natural features that we associate with classical beauty. A weird recurring natural feature I find in us though is that we tend to have buckteeth or the horseface physiognomy at some point in our life. Also, has a natural ability for drawing the attention of people flawlessly, whether or not the person himself intends to do so.

Havent been in here in a while what happened to astro general?

Would anyone be willing to interpret my chart on this fine day at 4am?

>>40934351 (OP)
how do sidereal and tropical people both arrive at same conclusions?

>>40934351 (OP)
which school of astrology>?

>>40938925
>>40938929

>>40934351 (OP)
so all signs have the potential to be retarded in some way

>>40938929
I used the tropical zodiac. The sidereal could be fine also, or it could be bullshit, or it could have a different cosmic purpose. This is a potential area for further research. But "144 White Men" clearly shows the tropical zodiac doing things.

>>40934351 (OP)
I'm a pisces moon and rising and I do indeed look like an oily fish with very sleepy watery eyes.

>>40934351 (OP)
astrology is my religion, I'm my own higher power

Now can we see the female equivalent?

>>40939235
famouspeople.astro-seek.com

Choose 'AA' Rodden Rating in the options.

Now get compiling!

>>40938789
it just went to the stars

>>40935830
but this isn't about abundance of examples but rather systematically comparing similar phenotypes

>>40936579
>and ignore the new evidence in front of you.
pisces isn't a fixed sign
mercury in pisces actually is a careful listener, it's a very open minded placement especially if the sun is in aquarius

>>40934351 (OP)
your .orig twitter post literally has lower filesize than this downscaled upscale

>>40934405
>>40934672
>>40937664
>>40938630
why didnt you order these after the ascnedant

>>40937470
Whites are objectively inferior their incel neanderthal admixture means they are a genetic dead end and them lacking melanin mean they will never be able to thrive in the best environments.

>>40940794
Hating whites is not right. That makes you like them. They were pushed so far into the harsh environments only the sociopathic ones survived due to so much lack of resources.
Took a few hundred years for the normal,abundance predisposed ones to appear. But these are being manipulated to hate other races so that the sociopathic ones still win.

Whites need liberation. Lets liberate them from themselves. Think of them like the wild wolves. Lets make cute dogs out of them. And leave the wild ones to die out.

>>40940794
>>40940840
this is the dumbest shit I've read in my entire life

>>40940840
>White man's burden in reverse
Fuck that bullshit. You can't cooperate with a tribe that actively wishes to kill you. They revel in being evil and hateful to anyone that isn't them. They love punching down on other races, but now that Jews and Asians can do it to them, it's "MUH ANTI WHITE WACISM" or "MUH WHITE JENNYCIDE" all of the sudden? Fuck that and fuck them. I don't blame OP for gradually beginning to hate them.

>>40941006
do you live in the same reality as with the rest of us
this might actually be worthy of an /x/ thread, I think someone from a parallel universe is posting on 4chan

factors most important to physical appearance:
(1) ascendant
(2) planets in the ascendant
(3) lord of the ascendant

Taking note of these three factors would be more interesting.

>>40938681
The Saggitarius Moons (pic related). Narrower faces. In the ones who are grinning (do you see other moon signs grin like that?) the buck-toothiness is indeed evident.

>>40940772
I apologize, here's a Google Drive link to a giant version: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U5d2LTPds8xbisKVD2yaISMNUJtT3VY3/view?usp=sharing

>>40941685
Well, common image formats only allow two dimensions. "144 White Men" is certainly limited by ignoring rising planets and the Ascendant ruler, but it's a reasonable tradeoff. And the Moon clearly does a lot.

>>40941782
>it's a reasonable tradeoff. And the Moon clearly does a lot.
It would be nice to screen them for each Moon sign in the first house.
Because for example, if Moon is in the 12th house, it has invisible and liminal energies.

But yeah its a good start

Also seeing composite faces, if there is such a program. For example mash up 100 faces with Leo sun, and see if the leo features come out.

ChadGPT mogs every assrologuer, especially if you know how to tard wrangle him.

>>40941905
"Moon in a given house" is along the diagonals, at least qua Whole Sign Houses. With that in mind, here's the 12th House Moon guys. I'm not sure what you mean by "invisible and liminal energies" (rather vague language), but they do seem to have some similarities, though subtler than the Ascendant and Moon.

>>40942029
Nice try, CIA.

>>40941685
This. And especially second house for the face, with all the same steps. Like the ruler of my second house is together with other planets which give my face a mix of different features

>>40938938
Duh

>>40942029
nah chatgpt is just pop astrologer babble combined into one thing

>>40944528
>>40942029
You're a lazy piece of malevolent shit that works for power, advantage, spinning that to mean that's what everyone else does. You're just projecting onto other people, what's fucked is that ChatGPT is useful as the user remembers how to speak.

>>40934351 (OP)
>I collected jew photos and they all look alike
>they're "white men" btw

how do scorpio moons look

>>40944712
It's there, but it's hard to put my finger on! Some of them have quite wide noses. Many of them have eyes evading the camera, though it's more subtle than with the Capricorn Moons. Now I want to see them in motion...

>>40944687
I even included the world's most infamous Jew, Adolf Hitler.

>>40937664
>>40944866
so mars ruled moon generally means big noses?

I'm on the phone but can you do first house moon. my moon is there under whole sign but 12th in placidus. I'm starting to believe whole sign is more accurate

>>40944872
Seems that way. Longer noses in the case of Aries, wider ones for Scorpio.

>>40944902
Interesting, I have a scorpio ascendant and aries moon and my nose and my glare are the most prominent aspects of my face.

>>40944901
First House Moons are diagonal from the top left. Here is the full size version of the image: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U5d2LTPds8xbisKVD2yaISMNUJtT3VY3/view?usp=drive_link

>>40944901
First house moon signifies beauty (moon is beautiful, 1H signifies where your traits come from)

>>40934672
Garzón, Urdangarín...
kek

I'm gemini rising gemini moon, though I don't look at all like that guy.

>>40935803
>Does anybody really believe astrology?
People have and continue to worship the planets since the dawn of time.
>how does the position of the celestial bodies determine your character traits?
I don't understand this argument
It's commonly accepted by even the most bullshit kike political propaganda science that the planets, no matter what you think they are or how far away they might be, all have a part in creating our solar system as we currently experience it.
Without the gravitational pull of each body, the universe would not exist as we see it now.
Without the Moon, the flow of water on earth would be completely different.
Without the Sun, there would be no existence at all.
It's not in the slightest bit far fetched to make the leap that these bodies also have effects on us psychologically. To what extent is debatable. But you honestly sound like a fedora tipper so I don't know why I'm wasting the effort replying to your retard post. You're Aries Moon so you're needlessly competitive when you feel your intellect is threatened. Pisces wants to keep things the same, hold onto feelings and memory, they can usually be hoarders and they tend to hold onto the bad.
Scorpio Risings tend to think others are trying to deceive them when typically they're the ones with something to hide, especially looking at your Black Moon in Lilith. I too have Scorpio Mars so that's probably why I feel compelled to correct your dumbass. You have Chiron in Sag so you are GOING to have a crisis of faith at some point in your life so better have it now than later and make something of yourself. Pisces always has a mystical path whether you want to admit it or not.
>t. Gay Nigger

What books could I read if I want to start learning about all this houses and signs and planets stuff? I've always found astronomy fascinating and astrology more so, but haven't gotten around to actually learning about them.

>>40934351 (OP)
I'm an Aquarius Rising and we just found out that my bestfriend of many years is a Virgo Rising. Dude has always had a giant tendency to be extremely critical and judgey, so that checks out lol

>>40934351 (OP)
Geminis Sun, Libra moon, Virgo rising. Try me, schizos.

I don't doubt that the celestial bodies have an effect on us humans but the fact that there are many different astrology systems shows that astrology is not settled and far from being considered a science.

Let's say hypothetically I have a lot of free time, motivation and a somewhat analytical mind (Physics Degree), how would one go about proving astrology from 1st Principles?

>>40948330
The thread you are posting in right now is about proof of astrology, but not from first principles, but rather empirical evidence.

How do you figure this stuff out? I only know the day and place AI was born not the time or anything specific

>>40949195
>How do you figure this stuff out?

Ask your mom if u still have one , they dont forget. That's the only reason I know I was born sometime around 4 in the afternoon

I'm going through a very rough time in life right now. A lot of things just aren't working out. Will things get better soon? Before the end of the year?

How does the friendship compatibility between my best-friend and I look?

We used to argue with eachother a lot and have had points in time where we were both suspicious of eachother.

Are there any weird "hidden enemy" 12th house shit to look out for or is everything mostly chill?

Any potential areas to stay grounded in?

We also try to work on projects and shit too, will our Midheavens opposing eachother be bad for this?

>>40949195
The time is listed on your birth certificate. You can request it through the state. In my case, I had my mom mail me the original copy. I had a really weird experience opening the envelope, Being confronted with the original document from the moment of my birth was... something. There was a thickness in the air and time seemed to slow down for a second. I don't know how to describe it.

>>40949460
Also, if anyone would like to offer any observations on my chart, I'd deeply appreciate it. Anything really striking?

>>40934672
Should've used Sinatra. His nickname was literally Ol Blue Eyes and he had a Pisces Moon.

>>40946292
I just picked up a book randomly one day and been reading any book i find on the subject. Though most books ive found are not written as "learn astrology from scratch" and with a scholarly approach. Theyre more pop lit style and usually focused on one aspect of astro. Many asume you already know stuff and dont bother covering the basics. Not meant to give you a complete walkthrough. But then that would require several volumes anyway. So just pick one up and dont stop. And listen to classes, take courses. Even just look up videos on youtube. Find people you want to listen to. Most people ive met are girls with all the same shallow new age crap so i always avoid hearing anything from girls if theyre pretty. Ugly old men is where its at
Mm. What else? Many things are easily searchable online. Like start googling what planets rule which signs and this alone will give you a lot of info just by meditating on it. Like, mercury rules both gemini and virgo, so the two signs are different aspects of mercury and such

>>40949587
Believe me, I wanted to. But the birth data was simply not accurate enough. In all likelihood he really was a Pisces Moon, but I wanted to put "144 White Men" beyond any doubt.

>>40949469
Amateur here but from similar birth charts i've seen and their impact on that person's life:
Your birth chart just said : oh what you desire most in this life is love/a great marriage? Well fuck that
Honesty, what you're here to achieve for yourself clashes with your one greatest desire. So hurry up and do it. This is also made obvious with the sun and NN in the 6th house.
Idk why you would choose to be born with this chart anon. Do you enjoy being emotionally tortured?
Everything else looks fine/could be compensated/is compemsated by other placements (you know it).

>>40934351 (OP)
I wanted to take this opportunity i've been given by stumbling onto this to say, I am sorry for how things ended up. How I acted. Screaming. I have dealt with this shame since then. I'm not going to get into much unless you first indulge me because I want to respect the obvious choice to cut off communication with me. But for me to really move on, I need to at least let you know that I am sorry. Again there is much more i'd like to express, but this isn't the place. I don't think there will ever be another, but that's alright. I am content for you to just be able to know that I am sorry. I can move on if you at least know that. This will be the only time i will reach my hand out like this, i'm really not trying to get anything out of this or further go against your wish. But this one time, I have to apologize.

>>40949180
Yes and for that I appreciate your efforts.

However I am simply not convinced by a star sign and a bunch of facial pictures with vague similarities.

People look incredibly different in pictures taken in the same day due to lighting and angles.

People also look incredibly different throughout out their lifetimes due to age and their habits.

There has to be a more thorough and robust way.

Once again I'm not trolling or trying to put you down. It's definitely a show of the scientific spirirt

>>40934351 (OP)
whats your twitter account? you sound fimiliar

>2025+0.6384
>not using tropical signs + sidereal vedic lunar houses
you're free to interprete my chart, btw.
And yes, every second poster on /x/ IS a scorpio riser.

>>40951161
jeetstrology is fake and gay

>>40951169
Tropical vedic astrology mogs all

>>40949469
your jupiter is the final dispositor for a ton of stuff (houses 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 11)
venus is the other final dispositor
(houses 7. 9, and 12)

which is interesting. You have a night chart so your out of sect benefic jupiter is powerful and ruling the majority of your chart, and the night benefic venus is ruling the other two houses. So all your houses are ruled by a benefic, though mostly.
The in sect benefic venus is dignified, rules over your moon and 7th and 9th house. It's very significant so relationships (7th house association and venus association) are going to be very significant in your life, it also has a good sextile with Jupiter.

These are two very positive planets with very strong influence and placements so very positive chart overall.

Your asc is ruled by your in sect malefic mars where it's exalted and ruled over by saturn which should sort of limit it's excesses, and it has a good sextile to your ascendent and to your Jupiter.

very fortunate chart overall. That opposition between your moon and your asc seems like the main problem area, however there are tons of positive sextiles and trines connecting them anyway. (moon opposes ac but has a trine w/ the asc ruler mars which has a sextile with the asc which it rules)
both your moon and sun are also exalted.
Focus on 7th house matters (relationships/1 on 1 stuff it'll be a center point for you) as well as 5th house stuff (creative work, projects, hobbies, children "creating stuff") to make sure you are leveraging those benefics but like I said just a very good chart for you. You also very clearly have those two kingdoms that are well related be mindful of them.

Your mercury is the worst placement probably, it's in fall, i'd say it's diurnal based on being ruled by jupiter so out of sect, has a square and no real good aspects. Communication including communicating in that 5th house stuff may be difficult but the jupiter should help

>>40951161
sorry indians are not human and i will not read anything that has garbage indian stuff on it

I have every single aspect in my chart

>>40951156
It's @fluxus_lux, although I don't tweet about astrology a ton. Maybe I should...

>>40950481
This was shockingly accurate, and a bit of a wake-up call.
>>40951704
This was helpful too, thanks anon.

>>40934351 (OP)
Hello, I am and aquarium.

>>40935803
Planets are one version of the same thing a synapse, a node, etc are. Just on a different scale.
Nodes sing, buddy. We're dancin'!

>>40935803
Same. I do not see the similarities between these same-sign guys that OP is talking about. If you showed me the pictures individually and asked "Does he look self-satisfied or curious?" I would not sort them like this.

I've looked up my sun, moon, and rising signs. They literally sounded like they're describing a random person who is not me. I just now looked at my Astro-Seek chart and those descriptions are a better fit but also really sound like they're written for the maximum number of people to see themselves in it.
>intelligent, good communicator, conflicted between tradition and revolution
Flattery plus something almost everyone experiences.

>>40935830
This is a bait/falseflag post. I've seen these before.

>>40949289
You're going through your Saturn Return which is a time of troubles. What Saturn asks of you is to discard the things that aren't helping you in life, which can include friends, groups, the way you assert yourself, really anything that doesn't help you move forward, anything that keeps you in a rut. Things will get better if you make big changes or at least have the discipline to start making small changes and continue to make them.
Besides "Saturn Return", look up "Saturn conjunct South Node"

>>40949423
12th house enemies is an old school interpretation. From an evolutionary astro standpoint, this would be more like working out karma between people

>>40955791
>12th house enemies is an old school interpretation
12th house is about how the self (1H) is being eroded (sky directly above the east)
That includes non-physical things (fantasy, asceticism) and physical things (things that are draining you, loss, difficult situations, detractors/enemies)
This is why 12H is an excellent place for malific planets to be (saturn indicates frugality needed to overcome scarcity, mars indicates strength to overcome one's foes, sun indicates confidence to not be affected by detractors)

>>40955856
nevermind i just remembered that sun in 12th is absolutely terrible

Which house system to use? Planets are in different houses depending on which is being used.

>>40934351 (OP)
>White
i see at least 5 jews in there

>>40956071
whole signs with vedic interpretations

>>40934351 (OP)
If astrology is real, then read my birth chart. They've done it before, and they got a lot of things wrong.

>>40956337
Get the raw data with the planets and aspects and tell ChatGPT to read it.

Is man's mars conjunct woman's venus best for sexual compatibility? are there any other aspects that are as important as this?

>>40956337
Ascendant in Gemini
inclined to produce people that are youthful, expressive, inventive.
L1&4 Mercury in 6H Scorpio
L1 suggests probing mind that excels in work, health, and daily routines. may have a knack for uncovering hidden truths
L4 suggests a domestic or private dynamic that is emotionally intense
L6&11 exalted Mars in 8H Capricorn
Mars suggests a powerful drive to confront life’s deeper mysteries
resilience in health matters ambition and drive in achieving goals and connecting with groups
L7&10 Jupiter and L8&9 Saturn in 12H Taurus
expansiveness, wisdom, and optimism to relationships, seeking meaningful and growth-oriented connections. In Taurus, Jupiter seeks growth through stability, beauty, and material comforts, but the 12th house placement shifts this toward intangible or spiritual gains.
Jupiter in the 12th house ruling the 7th suggests that partnerships may have a karmic, spiritual, or hidden quality. You may attract partners who are wise, spiritual, or foreign
The 12th house influence could indicate sacrifices in relationships or a tendency for partners to be elusive or distant, requiring trust and faith.
L8 Saturn 12H suggests a cautious, structured approach to transformation and shared resources. the 12th house placement indicates these matters may involve isolation or hidden challenges
L9 Saturn 12H points to a serious, introspective pursuit of higher knowledge and spirituality. may be drawn to disciplined study of philosophy, religion, or metaphysical subjects, Taurus grounds this pursuit in practical wisdom, but the 12th house suggests a private or subconscious connection to faith, possibly through meditation or retreats.
L12&5 fallen Venus in 4H Virgo
venus is practical in virgo. you are ok with driving a toyota or eating at mcdonalds, you think that everything is beautiful, detail oriented self expression in domestic areas, wants a serene home.

>>40956710
L3 fallen Sun in 5H Libra
As the 3rd house ruler, the Sun in Libra suggests a communicative style that is diplomatic, charming, and focused on fairness. But you fail at all these things because your sun is fallen
In the 5th house, the Sun shines through creative self-expression, romance, and intellectual pursuits, with Libra emphasizing beauty, balance, and partnerships.
The Sun’s fallen state suggests a karmic lesson in balancing self-assertion with compromise. You may struggle with self-confidence in creative or romantic endeavors, feeling the need to please others or conform to external expectations. This can lead to indecision or a tendency to prioritize harmony over your own needs.
L2 Moon and South Node in 9H Aquarius
The Moon in the 9th house, a house of higher learning, philosophy, spirituality, and long journeys, channels its emotional energy into intellectual and decentralised pursuits. In Aquarius, ruled by Saturn (and co-ruled by Rahu in Vedic tradition), the Moon takes on a detached, progressive, and collective-oriented flavor. The presence of the South Node (Ketu) adds a karmic, spiritual, and detached quality, indicating past-life familiarity with these themes.
As the 2nd house ruler, the Moon in Aquarius suggests that your sense of self-worth and financial security is tied to intellectual freedom, innovation, or decentralised ideals
North Node in 3H Leo
The North Node in the 3rd house, ruled by the Sun (L3 in 5H Libra), is a critical counterpoint to the Moon and South Node in the 9th. While the South Node in Aquarius suggests past-life familiarity with detached, intellectual, or collective ideals, the North Node in Leo pushes you toward courageous, heart-centered communication and self-expression. This axis indicates a karmic shift from abstract wisdom (9th) to practical, authentic expression (3rd), influencing how your 2nd house (self-worth, speech) manifests.

>>40955161
Okay anything else?

I can't get over the fact of there being two dozen house systems. Whole sign is the best, but how do you take this "science" seriously when you can just do whatever and it works either way (tropical vs sidereal)?

>>40951707
Then you wont read anything at all since you white apes received everything from the east through persians and arabs and a lot of it was first discovered in india
I guess you could also thank egypt and babylon

>>40934351 (OP)
Holy shit this is the dumbest fucking brain damage I've ever seen.
>Here is a carefully selected group of 144 famous white males, out of tens of thousands. As you can tell, the ones that share some made up astrological traits look somewhat similar.
>I believe this proves astrology is real.
KYS star nigger.

>>40958563
>you can just do whatever and it works either way
Cause its about our senses beig imperfect, unable to grasp the truth completely. Theres a spectrum, margin, range, and within it its the truth. You may use whatever system to approach it, but always remembering theres a margin of error. Actually thats what make it possible for all systems to work. That they will see what the other one missed
Or whatever. I use vedic more because personal experience tends to favor one over the other. But if you find more accurate results with tropical, then go ahead

>>40936579
>You have Mercury in Pisces, which makes you long-winded. It also predisposes you to keep talking about your own opinion and ignore the new evidence in front of you.
Astrology faggots really just use it as fancy packaging for their passive aggressive insults kek

>>40935830
Found the kike/shill, theres over a dozen mega yid snipcock prodigys on there, so no, not just white at all.

>>40937613
> i'm a pretty weird type
>intp 5w4 549 sp/sx
This and INFP/4w5's are actually very over-typed among people that are interested in personality theory in the first place, so it's not weird at all, really. Especially if the way you figured you are this type is that you took a quiz and answered like a person who is curious about esoteric systems for personal understanding, which is just another way of saying 5/4. It's just a feedback loop, it's not really telling you much. I use the personality database for this sort of thing, and I don't really claim to know people's type unless I see them from afar, as that actually makes it much simpler. It also helps to have a tally of votes on someone, as that makes it easier to figure where people are going wrong with their typing, which does happen often. Interestingly enough, if you look at an Enneagram/MBTI combo on the database you will see an actual resemblance among the resulting people/characters which is way more clear than this astrology correlation. Try going there and putting in "ENTP 7w8" for example and you can see the same facial structure, hairstyles, and general appearances show up again and again. Physiognomy is absolutely real, but I have reservations about astrology for the time being. Perhaps the database will add it one of these days, that would certainly make examining it's validity much easier.

>>40935830
damn timmy's got baited hard

>>40959354
This, its a bunch of forced, far reaching horseshit to fit whatever currwnt context od the individual theyre "analyzing", only general pricniples hold true esoterically, but to use these meme astrology level
>>40934405
Bumch of bullshit, bobby dylan looks like a drug addled reptilian in that photo, Marx like an emotionless vapid jew, half the other photos show utterly different physiogamy and facial cues, ones antithetical to their counterparts. How do you rationalize your baseless drivel when its fucking unproven and completely full of holes in a single infographic, youre not even getting half of them to have your, "omnipotent judgement of congruent features". Focus on the general cause theres a shitload of factors that derail birth sign trajectories

>>40959079
OP is literally a retarded fucken nigger ROFLMAO

>>40959404
no one who just uses a quiz includes their tritype and instinctual variant lol, i assure you it is correct
and yes the odds of me seeing a single person with a highly unusual chart that is very similar to mine, also having a very unusual combination of personality traits (not just intp, all of them)
Would be nice if there was a full dataset of natal charts, mbti, enneagram type. Would be pretty feasible to build it from known celebrity charts + personality db at least I suspect we'd find some pretty clear correlations.

For the more obvious ennegram/mbti correlation I think there is actually a pretty significant ethnic/genetic component to that at least within certain populations where they are more prevalent, there is no ethnic correlation w/ astrology stuff so it doesn't have that incidental correlation to leech off of for the

>>40959488
>no one who just uses a quiz includes their tritype and instinctual variant
Yes they do. Combining questionable test results is how 90% of self-typers go about it, and you've failed to explain how else you've come to your conclusions, presumably because your methods are shaky at best, but hey, I'm all ears.
>i assure you it is correct
And just how would you do that? I won't just believe you intrinsically.
>and yes the odds of me seeing a single person with a highly unusual chart that is very similar to mine, also having a very unusual combination of personality traits (not just intp, all of them)
You may have an unusual chart but your personality type, even down to the tritype and instinctual variants, are an extremely common result among the types of people that are interested in personality theory and astrology in the first place, so it is really not all that surprising.
>Would be nice if there was a full dataset of natal charts, mbti, enneagram type. Would be pretty feasible to build it from known celebrity charts + personality db at least I suspect we'd find some pretty clear correlations.
This seems like it would be a worth endeavor.
>For the more obvious ennegram/mbti correlation I think there is actually a pretty significant ethnic/genetic component to that at least within certain populations where they are more prevalent
This seems likely. The distribution among the sexes is interesting as well. Certain combos just don't seem to exist in a general sense, and specific MBTI types don't exist among women. Specifically I find all of the INTP/ENTP women on the database to be questionable typing. From my read no xNTP woman exists. Maybe I'm just incredulous? It's interesting that INTJ/ENTJ women do seem to exist in my view, so it's not down to intelligence alone. I'm not sure why specifically women seem to lack the xNTP disposition, but that's just my opinion.

>>40949469
>>40950481
>>40951704
Beam me up, Scotty.

Describe someone with a Libra sun, Leo Moon, and Gemini rising

Was that it? Was that really my Saturn return? I don’t really know if I understood what was happening.

anything interesting things that stands out in my chart?

>>40959756
I’m coincidentally >>40959771 a gemini rising and libra sun.

I would say I have the most fun talking with people who “get it”. I like people who are optimistic, quick witted, knowledgeable and FUNNY. I use people as my chatGBT where certain friends are my subject matter experts on stuff that I don’t have time to learn myself (or don’t really care about) and I trust their opinions.

As for myself I pick hobbies up and down. I bought a telescope. Used it briefly and it’s currently collecting dust. I’m into collecting old US coins now. I enjoy learning random things like today I just had to know how far away Jupiter was (500 million miles) which made me spend 30 minutes looking up distances in our solar system.

>>40941006
Maybe next cycle you'll be white Sukhdeep

>>40959756
slutty

>>40957921
>>40949289
Love life looks difficult. Career will take a lot of effort to manifest. Intelligent. Strong in the creative or performing arts. The need to move past your insecurities if you haven't found strategies yet. Should be good at socializing. Strong need to find the balance between being yourself and giving in to others

>>40960368
Yeah I've pretty much been single since birth lol. I'm currently having trouble finding a job. But I'm finally getting my band together after years of trying to start one. Music and singing is what I really want to do for a living.

Can I get a reading here? >>40959651
Where does one learn to read these anyway? There are a ton interpretations that mostly contradict each other. Seems like a frustrating process to have to separate all the fluff from the substance, worse than reading history.

>>40934351 (OP)
The formatting on this is torture. The eye-killing shade of orange, the fucking terminal font, and an unreadable list of names without any labelling for quick reference. How are you going to prove anything when any *human* with *human eyes* could barely read this crap?

>>40959756
gemini ascendant
curious, versatile, youthful
3rd house leo moon
mature planet in a mature sign
has an unusual amount of feminine traits to him (vv with a woman), close with competitors, coddled by peers, entitled, pathetic
sudden, strong convictions. good leader, desirous, ambitious
emotionally independent, complex extroversion, expressive emotion, significant personal depth
5h libra sun
Power and regalia weakens, self confidence weakens. Rebellious. Quick self-learner. Bipolar in relationships, some times diplomatic some times tough.

>have moon and saturn in the 1st house
am I just a moody prick?

>>40960818
No you have other planets in other signs probably

>>40960885
Thats true but isnt 1st house all about on how you appear to others?

>>40960818
1H Saturn implies uglyness, 1H Moon implies beauty, 1H also implies you attaining your characteristics from those planets (i.e. internality and negativity)
What is the state of those planets?

>>40960979
Aspects to the Moon and Saturn will play a part. Different planets are activated at different times (profections, transits, etc). Progressed charts are important too. It's best to look at a chart holistically

>>40961003
just a sextile, nothing too bad, right?
>>40961084
you're right, you're right. just took a previous anons suggestion and looked at chart through placidus.

>>40961252
>just a sextile, nothing too bad, right?
No, I mean what is the dignity of Saturn and Moon
Are they in an exaltation sign? Are they in exile? Are they being aspected by hostile or friendly planets?

Also I suggest sticking to whole sign houses.

>>40960648
Fine. I changed it somewhat.

Fullres version: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hNWQn2_pQxEFL3zRfiYQab5DWNSoO94s/view?usp=sharing

>>40960804
What about Mars in Leo and Mercury and Venus in Virgo?

Here's the Pisces Rising guys. Their common character may be similar to the Pisces Moon guys (see >>40934672 ), but it's not the same. It seems to be expressed less in eyes and more in the shape of the head (not exhaustive).

All or most of them have prominent smile lines. I traced the undeniable ones; with the other three I think it's just the lighting. Seriously, look at the guys with other rising signs. Their smile lines aren't so pronounced. In theory I could have cherrypicked them but I didn't. Look at any random celebrities with Pisces Rising, they'll also have prominent smile lines.

They also look a bit, and this may sound weird, but like they were made out of fish. The fleshiness of their faces, where they have it, is a fishy fleshiness. Most of them look sort of friendly -- R. D. Laing (Aquarius Moon) gives a cold stare, though his face is far less tense than one would expect with that expression.

>>40961589
What the fuck are you even on about at this point? They are made out of fucking fish, and they happen to have smile lines?
.../x/ never changes.

>>40961304
holy shit dude you are so bad at fucking formatting shit. just use the glyphs or something the right side is totally unreadable
Maybe categorize it my asc type then just have the moon sign glyph list wiht the names next to them

>>40961304
like just make the text small and have 12 sections based on moon type:
aries moon
---------------
aries asc: One guys name
taurus asc: Another guys name


then another section for
Taurus moon
--------------
aries asc: one guys name

Just put it all in ai and it will format it for you

or rather than do that just on the grid number/letter then so the x axis is numbers and they axis is letters so
aries asc = a, gemini moon = 3
a3 = this persons name
and have it actually like
aligned so you have multiple columsn where it's just
a3: adsf
a4: sdf00

or ANYTHING god your formatting is so fucking bad it's actually unbelievable are you indian or something?

Man, can I get a reading here >>40959651
or what?

>>40959651
>>40965492
ok
uh bad news
your out of sect malefic is the final dispositor your entire chart, that's in the 5th house
(I've done 3 readings today and they all have had out of sect mars scorpio ruling a ton of stuff)

That's the #1 thing I see, some things to work on that would be uh maybe have some creative hobby or something where you make/produce things.

That mars scorpio also opposes your sun and saturn.

I'd say your best or most redeeming thing would be your jupiter/mercury conjunction in aries. It's in a strong house and has a bunch of positive aspects including aspects which get to that mars, and nothing really holding it back.

I think for you having that career thing will be very important. Everything else is kind of directly fucked with by that mars (1st house ruled by the moon which is scorpio, 7th house ruled by the saturn which eventually gets back to the mars but also has that direct opposition to it, same with the sun).

Your venus has some good aspects but it's in a difficult house (associated with loss/isolation/hidden enemies/subconcious stuff) so figuring out how to leverage it might be difficult.

another note would be your saturn is combust so anything going on with that will be more hidden kind of behind your ego and harder to deal with clearly

Your career stuff I would just make sure you prioritize and if you do I think the rest should be easier.
You have mercury and jupiter in aries there, with a pretty tight conjunction.

Aries poitns to more fiery and pioneering, jupiter being more expansive/optimistic/growth focused, mercury being more communication but can also be related to numbers/accounting and money things like that.

the 12th house venus gemini (some like spiritual practices/hidden beauty stuff) or uranus aquarius 8th house (new technology/debt/psychology/occult) is what that would point to I guess.

The sun/saturn being in the 11th house/friends and resolving that tension with the 5th house mars is key

>>40959651
>>40965492
oh yeah one more thing your 7th house/relationships is empty, and is ruled by your combust saturn taurus so that points to relationships kind of being something harder to deal with conciously,
and your venus is in the house known to work unconsciously.
so the two things most impacting your relationships are unconscious, I'm actually curious how this functions for you? what role have romantic relationships been like in your life?
(sorting out that mars 5th house associated with having kids, making things, hobbies, things like that tension with your sun figuring out how to deal with the opposition might help? career would probably also still help)

>>40951704
can i get a reading please?

can i get a reading please?

>>40965607
>your out of sect malefic is the final dispositor your entire chart, that's in the 5th house
>That mars scorpio also opposes your sun and saturn.
>The sun/saturn being in the 11th house/friends and resolving that tension with the 5th house mars is key
Can I get a bit more detail on what this might entail? I can research myself but I'm interested in your take.
>some things to work on that would be uh maybe have some creative hobby or something where you make/produce things.
That's always been the kind of thing I've enjoyed doing. I've been interested in the arts my whole life. Music, architecture/design, painting, writing, etc. I've been in a bit of a rut this year due to a move and the death of a parent shortly after. I had a complicated relationship with said parent.
>I'd say your best or most redeeming thing would be your jupiter/mercury conjunction in aries. It's in a strong house and has a bunch of positive aspects including aspects which get to that mars, and nothing really holding it back.
I'd like some more detail on that as well, but from my quick research it seems to have something to do with being a sort of intellectual/guru? That's at least half the role I play in my social life, along with being prone to provocative humor. I do a lot of research and I enjoy passionately informing people, though I can sometimes be more overzealous than amused, which can be divisive. I like pushing boundaries/knowing things I shouldn't, it's a bit perverse.
>I think for you having that career thing will be very important. Everything else is kind of directly fucked with by that mars
It's been hard for me to get off the ground. I have been supported in unhealthy ways. I have some pretty extreme issues with feeling controlled or manipulated, so I can tend to isolate and fluctuate between things in an unproductive way to escape commitments that are generally expected of people.
>saturn is combust
From what I'm reading this is directly related to what I said above.

>>40966065
the sun/mars tensions would be:
mars scorpio 5th house (more slow burning sort of aggression that is the sort of source of assertiveness, it's in that house of that creativity/production/children I mentioned)
in opposition to the
saturn/sun taurus in the 11th house, because the saturn is combust it's a bit less clear but 11th house is: groups/friendships/community sort of things. You have that in taurus so might be more stable/practical/material.

Some issues with that in general is anything with saturn will probably have delayed development and you kind of have that unconcious relationship to structure.
Your ego is also really rooted there so that's kind of where your identity is rooted or where you shine kind of.

The opposition i like the description of it's like two nations at war for the same territory, you can resolve it and figure out a way to get them to work together but they are going to be fairly at odds.

the jupiter/mercury conjunction is in the 10th house so career, the specific career connotations can be pretty various. Like mercury could be communication but it's also associated with counting, measurement, money, that sort of thing you kind of have to look at all the possible various significations and combine them and get a sense of the general It's career/public face, not social life, that would be another house. (but mercury is also more associated with communication in general as well, so it would be involved there )

Having that uranus aquarius/mars scorpio both with negative relationsihps with the saturn/sun kind of makes sense for that though.

you have a malefic planet ruling everything so I kind of wouldn't expect much to be that easy, the career as I said is a good way to inject lots more positive stuff.


also you skipping the relationship question about it being very unconscious is really funny

>>40965629
also you skipping the relationship question about it being very unconscious is really funny
It was a separate post I was writing this up in the interim. One thing at a time and all. It's also a bit of a "spill" but do with it what you will.
>I'm actually curious how this functions for you? what role have romantic relationships been like in your life?
I'm a young guy on 4chan so I haven't so much dating. I'm not a true misogynist but I'm not willing to follow feminism to it's ultimate conclusions. I feel like a bit of open selfishness that allows for critique is a virtue as opposed to false kindness and coercion. I offer a verbal contract that makes my desires above board. I'm unimpressed by flakey behavior, and I'm willing to walk away if things get dramatic. In this way I tend to get a bit cynical regarding romance, but this is partly a protective instinct for myself as well as any prospective partner. I have had a tendency to get *really* strong feelings very quickly, and so I try my best to not make that a problem. I guess it sometimes feels like I'm more genuine/enthused than others that might just be entertained by my theatrics, and it hurts to not be able to truly connect because I tend to set high expectations in that regard. Sexually I'm fairly extreme. I enjoy pushing boundaries and I have a tendency to view someone's willingness to allow me to do that as love. That might be the result of some sort of trauma, but it is what it is. I tend to be socially popular with the right kind of people, but my general disdain and jealousy has sometimes made me go long periods without much in the way of social connection, to a fairly extreme degree. That's what I'm actually used to from childhood, being a clown before being relegated back to neglect. My resentment for being neglected and desire for real connection is at war with my need for independence and novelty, and so I tend to get stuck feeling like I'm on the outside looking in.

>>40961862
>They are made out of fucking fish, and they happen to have smile lines?
I didn't say either of those things. Read it again: >>40961589

>>40966778
No one is persecuting you, bro.

>>40966813
The scarecrow image? No, that represents the concept of a "strawman argument".

>start learning astrology
>learn that for each period of time there's a correpsonding planet
>check my birthday
>was born on a day of saturn on a month of saturn
t-thanks, universe

>>40967475
Do you even know anything about saturn or have you just been memed into thinking it's the source of all the worlds problems? Get some perspective.

>>40967172
Whatever. You're not a good communicator. If you are onto something it likely won't go anywhere because of that, and winning a petty back and forth with me won't change that fact. Format your shit better and learn to be more open to criticism if you even really give a shit about proving anything.

You know it's not a science when the most normie mainstream media all have their astro page.

>>40967576
>governs time, death and cold
>dont worry about it
Anon rolled poorly

>>40967836
>Get some perspective.
So no then? It's a choice to see things like this in an inherently positive or negative way. It's like drawing death in tarot and assuming some horrible tragedy is about to befall you. I'm incredulous about the tarots ability to predict anything to begin with, but that reading of the card is just that, a reading. Things are usually a bit more complex than you give them credit for. Despite all the moon worship Japan is clearly the most Saturn-oriented culture on the planet and they have many redeeming qualities beyond their high suicide rate/low birth rate. But sure, go ahead and make whatever retarded superstitious assumptions that confirm your biases and make you feel better or worse than others. You clearly don't have the capacity for much else.

>>40967475
this doesn't mean anything, what's saturn's role in your chart? it can have beneficial setups

>>40968725
>what's saturn's role in your chart?
I'm only learning so can't say much myself.

>>40968915
you have an extremely prominent saturn lol
a saturn in it's domicile in the 1st house is basically as prominent as you can get
You have some positive impact on it from the 9th house libra sun/combust jupiter/venus ruled.
(jupiter and venus are both benefics and are helpful)
saturn is in sect for you so it will be more constructive and it being dignified as it is should make it easier to work with, the jupiter/sun trine will help.
your 9th house has your venus libra ruling your jupiter and sun, and your jupiter is kind of absorbed into your ego but that's a pretty important side of you that runs like half your chart. You'll get some help from that 9th house (i think for you it should show up as a kind of expansive ego driven approach to seeking harmony in philosophy, higher education or maybe foreign travel or something)

main negative thing impacting your saturn is the scorpio stellium in the 10th house ran by mars, which is the out of sect malefic which will be more difficult and less constructive and that has a very intense square w/ your saturn.

overall it's a fairly positive saturn placement, your saturn will be insanely significant in your life but you have some decent ways of dealing with it, issues with your career/work stuff will probably create a ton of conflict with it though.

It was funny you mentioned the saturn emphasis in your early post, having a single planet have as much emphasis in a chart as yours does is fairly uncommon and yours is saturn. (if you want the specifics of why it's having a planet in the first house in it's own domicile/ruling itself. your moon is also there but yeah saturn is kind of your #1 thing by far)

your other prominent houses are ruled by that mars scorpio stellium for the 10th/career, and the other two (4 and 7 (through the sun)) are that libra venus, and both have aspects with your saturn as well.

>>40968915
but just in general to make clear you have a day chart so saturn is considered more constructive rather than bad, especially as dignified as it is it should be helpful but yes you will probably come off as a bit saturnian. your worst placement is actually your mars imo.

>>40969068
>>40969112
Well. I didn't understood much from what you said but I'll save it for later when I'm more familiar with the topic. Thanks.

>your worst placement is actually your mars imo
Yeah, my lack of courage, self-sufficiency, initiative and masculinity are one of my biggest misery inducing sources. Which makes me to give up on life every other 4-6 months before I manage to find a way to keep going.

>>40968915
strong saturn, but not as strong as mine.

Analyze…. My fucking… chart you cocksuckers. Do you know how many times I’ve posted this and no one analyzed it. FUCK. YOU.