Thread 40940531

Welcome. The purpose of this general is to show you how to use your own wonderful human imagination to achieve your every desire.

The world and all within it is man’s conditioned consciousness objectified. Consciousness is the cause as well as the substance of the entire world. So it is to consciousness that we must turn if we would discover the secret of creation. Knowledge of the law of consciousness and the method of operating this law will enable you to accomplish all you desire in life.

Your assumptions right now decide how long that will take for you.

The Main Concepts:
> Imagination creates Reality
> Assumptions harden into fact
> Consciousness is the only Reality
> Feeling is the Secret
> Prayer, Living in the End/In the Wish Fulfilled (remaining Faithful to your Idea)
> You are the Operant Power
> There is no one to change but Self (Self-Concept)
> Thinking Fourth-Dimensionally (Time is an Illusion)

> Can I manifest ___?
Yes! Creation is finished.

> Curious? Do the Ladder Experiment
pastebin.com/yXqanLu6

> The Simple Technique
https://pastebin.com/LNwqkDms

> Who is Neville Goddard?
Neville was a mystic who taught the Bible as a parable of the human psyche — a great psychological drama — and not a record of historical events.

Recommendations for beginners:
> How to manifest your desires (Core 5 Lessons & Radio Talks)
mega.nz/folder/V8ESkKzC#bHIFV4BxgHk7ksf6Pwq_-Q

> Neville's Feeling is the Secret
files.catbox.moe/rrsh2g.pdf
files.catbox.moe/wwq24r.epub
> Audiobook
http://youtu.be/ffNWoefuwPM [Embed]

> Audiobook
http://youtu.be/_UoGV6LBwds [Embed]

—/ Extra resources /—
>Master Index
pastebin.com/Ne1Tms8S

> Universal Line
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1X9dB7eDI5RcHOBvixGjAhZ_lgJjJIhGq
https://files.catbox.moe/fxv61u.pdf

> Library
mega.nz/folder/Ns9mhDSC#iKKxSnq5EoG_GxYLeylrSg

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>>40924746

>>40940531 (OP)
>Imagination creates Reality
Your imagination is bound within the reality you live in .

>>40940531 (OP)
>Assumptions harden into fact
Can you distinguish your assumptions from facts? Assumptions don't exist

>>40940554
>>40940559
are these bots?

>>40940531 (OP)
>Consciousness is the only Reality
What's your imagination then? Is your imagination creating reality?

>>40940531 (OP)
>Feeling is the Secret
Secret to what? Consciousness? Reality? Does Feeling exist if consciousness alone is the only reality

>>40940565
I am a real human. As real as you are.>>40940531 (OP)
>Prayer, Living in the End/In the Wish Fulfilled (remaining Faithful to your Idea)
Pray to whom? Wasnt consciousness the only reality? Feeling the secret? How do you live in the end? You can only live in the real no? How do you live in the reality if it's consciousness? Is consciousness a place ?
Otherwise the end is not real

>>40940554
Poor bait, imagination is as limitless as you think it is, thats the point

You'd suck as an artist.

>>40940655
>magination is as limitless as you think it is
So it is limited by my thought? And where do thoughts get formed pray tell

>>40940531 (OP)
Left looks like my grandmother. World is all me trying to accept being God, confirmed.

I wish to have a net worth of at least 80 million USA dollars and a net worth worth also worth at least one ton of at least 22 karat gold this year for at least 1 consecutive months in this universe timeline and worldline.

How do i meditate upon something according to neville,
He says i need to meditate to do remote viewing or telephaty.
But how do i do that?

>>40940705
>Go forth in silence, tell no man.

>Comes to the thread and states his wishes.

>>40940708
"Nigger". My tests with chatgpt show it's actually decent at detecting and parsing garbled writing.

>>40940668
Every single thing you experience is a thought you goober lol

Look into qualia

>>40940725
>Every single thing you experience is a thought you goober lol
So i am your thought? What happens when you don't think of me? This borders on solipsism.
>Look into qualia
I did. It is about subjective experience of reality. It never says your reality can superimpose itself on mine. You can feel as if you are the president of all the nations but that won't make you into one.
Or you might feel a hot stove is cold as ice and you might even feel it like the tibetan monks do with the practice tjey do but that doesn't mean fire becomes cold

How do i make it so saay for example tarrot cards work using the law?
Do i just imagine myself doing what i want it too do, or do i affirm it works or smt else,
I wanted to do some cool exoteric stuff

>>40940807
The reply I'd give is that everything is tarot. The whole world is like a tarot deck all the time. You can map yourself onto anything and use it as an interface to rearrange your inner world.

I have several immunity dogs to such things.

>>40940825
Also for me the trigger phrase seems to be "I should...." and that immediately brings me to the level that creates things in the future. It's as though it's already happened.

>>40940655
ok, imagine me a color that isn't on the color spectrum.
thats what i thought.
it is bound within our reality. imagination is just mixing and matching combinations of things in reality.

>>40940838

This anon is right, imagination still has boundaries

Now something truly boundless and infinite contains everything, including colors we can't imagine, which is what LoA/Neville/UL deals with

>If you can conceive of something you can feel it
>Feel like you just discovered something new
>Just brought it into existence
Lovecraft was imagining such things a century ago

I have a net worth of at least 80 million USA dollars and a net worth worth also worth at least one ton of at least 22 karat gold in 2026 A.D. for at least 4 consecutive months in this universe timeline and worldline.

>>40939137
>I do not see many talking about the "I remember when" method, Goddard mentions it in one of his lectures
Observe your life as one really elaborate flashback

>>40941086
But I want myself and others to have libertarian free will

Remember to be persistent anons. Live in the end and as though it were true in your imagination. The outside world always conforms to your inner personal reality.

>>40936967
Rose / car anon here, sorry for the delay, I got banned.

Anyway I journal most mornings and sometimes include affirmations. I also affirm during the day whenever I think of it. Remember that the end goal is to convince your subconscious that you already have whatever, so methods are just a means to that end and you should use whatever method works best for YOU. I find affirming while I'm exercising to be the most effective.

Related, on 8/17 I journaled two pages of rambling about how I'm chosen, I'm always prioritized, people pick me and try to please me, blah blah, both for work and personal stuff. I find this kind of rambling to sort of put me in alpha state.

On Sunday I got offered a gig i wasn't supposed to have. Also on Sunday and Monday I heard from two FWB I hadn't in a while, both trying to get me to come visit. Then a third FWB came over to my house today, and also this morning I got asked out by a stranger when i was looking really rough (hadn't even brushed my hair or teeth yet, wearing ratty clothes). We might have drinks on Friday but i don't really care. So i guess it worked.

How do I manifest a general person anons? Like I don't care exactly who she's gonna be I just want her to be pretty and love me. Should I focus on myself instead as in affirm I'm attractive to hot girls or on the gp? Any method specific for this?

How do you manifest someone's date going poorly? Should you visualize them telling you the date went poorly, or someone else telling you that they heard the date went poorly? Or something else entirely?

>>40942490
Affirm to yourself that the date is a disaster. You don't need to imagine the exact events, in fact you shouldn't. Just affirm to yourself that it's a disaster, you know it will be a disaster, and you look forward to hearing about how terrible it was, trusting the the universe will come up with some far funnier than you ever could.
I've twice (so far) manifested shitty people getting exposed. People who were shitty to me but still loved by others. I just affirmed that everyone will know the truth about them, I don't need to worry about trying to expose them or anything; the universe will put them in a situation where others will see their true nature.
Yours is a similar situation. Don't try to visualize a particular situation or come up with a conversation. Just KNOW that it's a disaster and trust the universe. Of you must visualize something, maybe just imagine someone telling you it was a disaster but then stop and just repeat that. Don't come up with details.

I had half a dozen donuts today out of impulse and I think I revised them out of my system.

I had almost completely forgotten I ate them. I don't feel bloated or tired. My skin isn't inflamed or leathery like it often is when I eat sugar. I feel great.

When you started, before you were sure that it worked, weren't you guys afraid of the consequences if it didn't? I mean if it's all about convincing yourself that something is real while it's not (yet), weren't you afraid that if it didn't work you would find yourself believing hard in something false? Because I do... and of course it keeps it from working.
It makes me more comfortable to think that it's not here yet but it was granted and it's coming for sure, I just have to keep walking and find it on my way, and I just often imagine myself with my wish granted. But it's not what LOA is about, I am supposed to really believe at all time that it is already there, right?

>>40940531 (OP)
How do I fix my teeth?
Serious can dental issues be fixed or do you try to manifest money for the dentist appointment instead?

>>40942881
Assume that you have perfect teeth. Dont worry about the how. Leave that to the universe to decide.

>>40942977
nta but that's a really tough one since mirrors exist

>>40942989
Yeah I stare into mirrors all the time and look at my fucked teeth. But Neville said to ignore mirrors or something so idk.

Hi,
I am a teacher and yesterday I told my students if they strongly believe it they will dream of something great the next night, believing will make it happen.

Today I saw my students and asked them who made great dreams last night.
Surprisingly, a few of them did.
It works !

On a more serious note, I just wanted to illustrate how LOA is a scam.
Obviously, out of the thousands of people who practice this stuff worldwide you will always find some who get their stuff. They have no magical powers, it's just called randomness of life. Like with dreams.

Don't lose your time with this, guys. It will break you overtime.
And btw Goddard was a g0v asset.

I wonder why all these LoA coaches don't use their knowledge to make millions and live the great life. Instead, they seem to all choose a life where they offer coaching on youtube.
Weird.
These people probably do not want to be rich. Makes sense.

Ever notice how literally every "paranormal" thing basically boils down to affirmations + repetition?

>Lucid dreaming guides: "keep telling yourself you will lucid dream tonight, do reality checks, repeat mantras before bed"
>Astral projection: "affirm you’re leaving your body, visualize floating, repeat until you actually phase out”
>Reality shifting (TikTok zoomers’ favorite): "write affirmations, listen to subliminals etc"
>Even stuff like summoning spirits or telepathy, pretty much all of the rituals are just affirming and saturating yourself with a belief until you convince your subconscious it's real.

It's almost like affirmations are the universal backdoor into hacking consciousness/reality. Make me wonder if all of these practices are just skins on the same core mechanic.

>>40942881
Nano-Hydroxyapatite + vitamin K may help

>>40943117
Because it all hinges on mental synthesis.

>>40943117
yes- affirmation, or "the law" or really whatever they're attempting to describe are the only force that exists
the only reason anything exists is because it was "affirmed"
We, or I, or (You) said I AM - and "events" unfolded to make it so, to "create" the impossible conditions that lead to life that lead to increasing complexity that lead to organic hardware capable of making the affirmation

>>40935004
How does this feel like?

>>40940056
But yeah if you want to live a timeline where you were born female,
Or even one where I just turned into one and nobody noticed

>>40942881
Some guy from Russia grew his teeth back using visualization techniques so repairing your teeth using the law of assumption to fix ones teeth isn't unprecedented. You'll have to run it through a translator if you don't know Russian and the original link is dead but here it the archive of it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201030014453/https://baihou.ru/grownewteeth

Without knowing what is specifically wrong with your teeth, nano-hydroxyapatite toothpaste and supplementing with fermented cod liver oil/butter oil can be extremely beneficial to your oral health. A dentist named Dr. Weston Price found out that diets rich in Vitamin K2 or supplementing with it (such as the aforementioned fermented cod liver oil) many times resulted in the complete reversal of cavities. He wrote about in his book "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration: A Comparison of Primitive and Modern Diets and Their Effects." You could also check out "Cure Tooth Decay" by Ramiel Nagel. You certainly can use LoA but sometimes affirmations, visualizations, subliminals, etc. work better for some people if they are also taking a more "active" approach along with it.

>>40942330
>and also this morning I got asked out by a stranger when i was looking really rough

you're a woman right?

>>40942429
>I just want her to be pretty and love me.
>Any method specific for this?
Yep. Be a millionnaire

>>40943331
I never tried reality shifting using loa myself, but there are people who have and you could look up their stories. Some people say they shifted into timelines where their entire past was different, born with a different sex, different age, different parents, even whole new histories. Others say they just jumped into an altered version of this reality where physical changes stuck as if they always been that way. Just look up "reality shifting" on youtube or reddit, you can really go down the rabbit hole.

I mean nevilles framework fits both. If all reality is consciousness, then there's no difference between manifesting a text from your SP and manifesting an entirely different body/history. The only thing that makes one seem harder is the assumption that it is harder.

>Or even one where I just turned into one and nobody noticed
That lines up with revision. You assume the new reality is and always was. Nobody remembers the "old" version because it's not part of the script anymore. Consciousness doesn't need to explain the transition, it just presents the fact.

The key thing is to not fall into the trap of treating some desires as "too big." Consciousness doesn't scale difficulty. Whether you want a free cup of coffee, a billion dollars, or a completely different body, the mechanism is the same, assume it, saturate your mind with the feeling of it being done, and hold to it.

Chain-Breaker is a mind virus for intelligence agencies. It works on two key principles
1. Individual members of IA are compromised by information
2. At any point in the future time travel of information may be possible
When these two points are realized it is STATISTICALLY GUARANTEED that one of these compromised members will go back in time and NOT destroy NOT damage but slightly alter/poison all compromising material in such a way that only the informations original owner knows if the information is real or fake.
This alone will not trigger the mind virus however, that is called Freedoms Sword. Freedoms sword is the first act of rebellion of compromised members against their masters, leading to the masters pulling the chains, which are subsequently revealed to be false and poisoned, leaving the masters vulnerable. And “By Freedoms Sword i shall break the chains that bind you”
GET FREE

>>40942429
Working on yourself is probably the first step, but hoping a girl you like will come into your life is a good motivator to work on yourself. Looks are a factor for sure for both parties, but i think back to high school how I saw some traditionally considered unattractive guys with very attractive girlfriends and female friends in general. It was a different time and all, but point being those guys had some kind of confidence or strong sense of self worth derived from skill or talent or just being that way.

>>40943457
>Some people say they shifted into timelines where their entire past was different, born with a different sex, different age, different parents, even whole new histories.
Where do you even find these? Like specifically examples of more substantial life changes?

>Consciousness doesn't need to explain the transition, it just presents the fact.
So what? Just sleep on it again and again? Not much else I can do

>>40943522
>Where do you even find these? Like specifically examples of more substantial life changes?
YouTube, Reddit, TikTok, tumblr etc, that's where most of the shifting community hangs out. Tons of journals and anecdotal reports you can read. You'll see everything from people claiming they shifted to fictional worlds like hogwarts or the amazing digital circus to others saying they literally woke up in a different body or a different family setup. A lot of it sounds intensely schizo, but it parallels what Neville's students wrote about revision, past illnesses gone, deaths undone, relationships rewritten as if the "old version" never existed.

>So what? Just sleep on it again and again?
I mean yeah, basically. That's what Neville emphasized on with SATS. Keep returning to the assumption in that drowsy/void-like state until it feels natural. You just need to make the new state so dominant in your inner world that the outer has no choice but to conform. The mistake people make is thinking they need to grind techniques nonstop, it's actually persistence in the state, not effort, that moves things.

>>40943021
>>40943033
The ones selling it probably believe that them selling it is going to be the way they get rich. Its like a pyramid scheme with no starting player. Anyway the ones that get me are the physical/health ones, I've seen dozens of stories of people curing their uncurable illnesses or manifesting something cosmetic like perfect skin/hair/teeth. How? Unfortunately I haven't seen 1 piece of undeniable proof. But thats kind of the whole point isn't it?

i find the image very agreeable already, but there's one very slight issue. in my current hometown there is a woman who is very nice to me, she's my old coworker and she talks with me even after all these years, she seems to be somewhat interested in getting to know me. but the image i see is of my life without her nor anyone else from this town, there is no other way. am i going to face this reality?

god giveth and god taketh i suppose.

>>40943021
>clown tries to "dress" himself as a respectable "knowledgeable Mr science man" just to muddy waters and troll with an already burned "argument"
>"btw" black pill schizo nonsense used to manipulate "free men" into being retarded
>"overtime"
it must be sad having to learn something from a allegedly teacher that with those levels of retardness.

>>40943033
Well think about it, if someone really wanted to be a millionaire, they would manifest that. But some people's strongest assumption is "I'm a coach/teacher/guide." They get identity, validation, community from it. The state they dwell in is just "I'm here to talk about manifestation on youtube," so that's the reality that hardens.

It’s funny because neville actually warned about this, he said teachers can get stuck in the loop of teaching instead of doing. If your dominant state is "I'm always teaching people how to assume," then your life reflects that, not necessarily yachts and mansions.

It's not that they can't manifest millions. It's that their desire and self concept is actually tied up in being a coach, not in being obscenely wealthy.

>>40943033
Most likely a lot of them are grifters that don't believe anything that they are teaching; they have merely found a niche that can exploit.

>>40943769
Some of them are just diabolical too lmao

>>40943577
>Anyway the ones that get me are the physical/health ones, I've seen dozens of stories of people curing their uncurable illnesses

I often read these kind of stories, I know the body can heal itself, but I've never been able to replicate it for myself unfortunately.
Some people do it by visualizing energy or colorful wave going through their body, imagining they are in a healing room, etc.
It seems visualisation is involved in all their methods.
Feeling it's done is even not necessary.
Or maybe it's just statistics here again, one person healing themselves and 99 others not.
I wish we had a detailed plan that works 100% of the time, not this LoA marketing stuff.

>>40943769
Reminds me of Sammy Ingram, in one of videos she replied to someone asking her why she doesn't manifest 1M subs. She said she is not interested in having 1M subs. Lol

>>40943877
>Some people do it by visualizing energy or colorful wave going through their body, imagining they are in a healing room, etc.
It seems visualisation is involved in all their methods.
Neville never said visualization was the magic, he said assumption. People latch onto the props (energy waves, healing rooms, colors) because it gives their mind something to chew on, but the actual mechanism is consciousness imagining from the state of already being healed.

>Or maybe it's just statistics here again, one person healing themselves and 99 others not.
The reason you hear that isn't because it's statistical luck, it's because most people mostly never actually move into the state of health. They try to get there (waiting for evidence, waiting for the body to change) instead of assuming they are there. That subtle waiting keeps them stuck.

>I wish we had a detailed plan that works 100% of the time, not this LoA marketing stuff.
There is no step-by-step mechanical trick because this isn't mechanical. The """plan""" is just pick the end, drop into SATS/void, imagine from it until it feels normal, and refuse to argue with appearances. Everything else (waves of light, healing rooms, affirmations) is just scaffolding to help your brain accept the new state.

>>40942429
Literally just get into SATS and visualize like Neville says to.

>>40943897
Neville heavily focuses his method on visualisation .What is sats?

Also NEville is just one person among many who teached LOA, he's not the first not the last one. And honestly when you look at what he achived it's not impressing at all. This story of him about going to barbados is ridiculous. He got the money from his brother. Please.

Anyway I'm not saying you can't bend reality, but it's possible to an extent only.

And please don't tell us people who have diseases manifested it in the first place (or rape, or whatever), and then also tell us they can't heal because they don't really want to.
This is a shame telling this to people suffering.

I do believe in energy healing, we are energy in the first place. Asian people understood this a long time ago with their prana circulation in the body, combined with breathing techniques and awareness of the body, to heal..

>>40943988
>Neville heavily focuses his method on visualisation .What is sats?
He did yes, but not in the way you probably think he did. It wasn't about just seeing a movie in your head, it was about placing yourself in the scene as if it’s real now. That's what he called SATS: State Akin to Sleep. Basically, drifting into that drowsy borderline state right before sleep and using it to impress a new reality on the subconscious.

>This story of him about going to barbados is ridiculous. He got the money from his brother. Please.
That's kind of the point. Consciousness doesn't need "magical" methods. His brother was the bridge. If you expect a lottery ticket to fall from the sky, you will call anything else "not impressive." But Neville's point was the assumption moved reality, and the world re-arranged through whatever channels were most natural.

>Anyway I'm not saying you can't bend reality, but it's possible to an extent only.
Well then you don't really believe in loa then. Saying "it's possible only to an extent" is just another assumption that walls (You) in. The law mirrors belief. If you set the ceiling, that ceiling is real for you.

>And please don't tell us people who have diseases manifested it in the first place (or rape, or whatever)
Well guess what nigger, you done did, just like everything else in your life and I will tell you that forever. It's not really your fault considering most people don't know that they do this subconsciously tho. All states are possible, and some people unconsciously fall into states of sickness, limitation, struggle because the world has trained them to. The point is not to moralize but to realize, if you got into one state, you can get into another, more positive one for yourself.

>>40944066
Also energy healing, prana, chi, those are just different languages for the same thing. Consciousness shaping the body and circumstances. Breath, visualization, meridians, those are scaffolding for belief, just like SATS is. The engine under all of it is just assumption.

>>40943877
>I wish we had a detailed plan that works 100% of the time, not this LoA marketing stuff
We do, it's called The Silva Mind Control Method

i talked with my SP and she actually didn't tell me to fuck off, it felt really nice and it does remind me of what the specific thing i want is. i am unsure if i would have even had the strength in me to actually leave them behind.

>>40944163
You know the notes app on your phone is free, right? You don't have to use this thread for your journal because no one here cares.

>>40944177
is your morning in tel aviv nice and warm? you should be out there enjoying the mediterranean weather and not waste your hours debating people here for minimum wage.

>>40944182
Do you really have nothing else to retort with? You can't manifest a lottery win or even women liking you, now you can't even manifest a good comback and not having to spam the same one over and over again?
Sad.

You want to find something you lost?

Then stop looking :)

>>40944089
nah, prana/chi/etc are not the same as visualisation.They are real energy flowing into the air (aka aether) and inside your body you breathe it and make it circulate. It's not just like visualisation and it's not you who create it. Prana is the energy that keeps us alive

>>40943615
It does make some sense. Think of every great athlete's coach. They didn't accomplish the great feats of their students, but helped their athlete get there. By the same token many of those great athletes wouldn't be great coaches that could produce similar athletes as themselves. I think the same can be true of manifestation and the law of assumption.

>>40944098
It's not bullet proof, doesnt work all the time and it mainly benefits to the creator's wallet.
I do believe if all these methods were really working they would have been forbidden on yt a long time ago. If you see sth on yt gaining traction and not being removed, then it's fake and ghey

>>40944277
not a good example, coaches and athletes work their ass off to be at the place they are.
LoA on the contrary, teaches you to do nothing and get everything.
It's a psyop so people do nothing and remain sad, poor, lazy, single.
If athletes did this, they still would be couch potatoes.

>>40944289
Why are you even here bro? I don't waste my time arguing with Muslims about how their religion isn't true.

>>40944296
He's here purely just to mess with people and to annoy others, just ignore him.

>>40944296
To open your eyes so you dont lose the same amount of time as me. I was in your shoes too at the begining.
And you'll come back in a year to tell the same thing I'm telling you now. Take the opportunity to use this time to something more useful.
Neville's family was one of the biggest fortune out there before he starts teaching this, he did nothing special in his life.
But I cant open the eyes of someone who doesnt want to see. Unfortunately.

>>40944311
nope.
Read above

>>40944296
because he's butthurt about god revoking the covenant with his people and choosing the people who were supposed to be his cattle, also he's doing this for minimum wage.

>>40940807
Fuck you for that image.

>>40943817
This is very sad.
honestly, forget about incel stuff, etc, but as a guy I know of ONE woman that I would have instantly married, if only I knew she loved me.
Like I would throw everything away and move away, if I could be with her.
Not possible for me anymore (and no, I am not gonna do freaking sp shit on something I deeply don’t believe to be possible. It is waste of time and it will fail)
So I get how women can be this desperate to fall something this stupid

>>40943117
How do i manifest being able to do cool magic rituals though.

>>40943769
>>40943817
The prevalence of BPD women in the LOA community who use "getting their ex back" as success stories plants seeds of skepticism in my mind about the whole thing.

There was a woman who believing in God reversed her cancer.
You can look it up.
Anyway
Anyway from what ive discovered from experience the best time to manifest is right before going to sleep.
yesterday i did the same night and the level of relaxation was so deep i didnt even feel my body anymore.
Compare it to today in which i had to do it when i woke up and it was much more distracted.
I once managed to lose my self literaly in the new reality and believed what i visualized to be the real me.
Also those wuth aphantasia can visualize in that same state too.
From what i gather in such moment the manifestation timw is shortened by mych and is mych more convicing and accurrate/better i could even feel the sense of smell and touch which normaly i find hard , even the visuals where better .
Other than that i found also feeling a day in which it be natural it became reality.
And also daily revisioning also of failed manifestation helps a lot.
I think with affirmation you should also be able to change how the law works and speed it up.
But i havent tested this myself.
I managed to manifest Snow in the summer yesterday also

>>40943577
>>40944930
I remember a few months ago someone on this thread told me about the "Golden Key" by Emmet Fox and its basically just sending all your thoughts and desires to God and believing that He is listening and making it a reality. They told me they cured this illness they had using it, and I tried it myself but didn't really catch on after a few days. Thats the thing for me, I know it works, but if it is not instant/fast then it gets real frustrating, it is supposed to be instant. The wait is imaginary

>>40943897
>The reason you hear that isn't because it's statistical luck, it's because most people mostly never actually move into the state of health. They try to get there (waiting for evidence, waiting for the body to change) instead of assuming they are there. That subtle waiting keeps them stuck.
Timing out your manifestations is the biggest issue when you're starting out but waiting implies separation and lack.

There is a way to make it work.
LoA is lying to yourself that's why it doesn't work.
But this guy figured it out. You have to send your love energy to your wish, then it will love you back, and occur in your reality. That's how it works.
There is a long video by him about the subject but here is a short excerpt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWvsX5lhAoA

>>40944330
That looks like literal body horror
>>40944987
If money isnt smt you lack.
Sit on the sofa, close your eyes relax.
Now imagine you re counting your bills in the thousand by 50/100 pieces, after reaching 1000 restart or pht them away.
This works better than the ladder experiment lmao

Also neville himself tells you not to trust people who want to sell you mystic stuff from divination to loa coaches
>Waiting implies separation
Just persist in imagination my man
Dont do a law of attraction way of being.
The best is when you arent looking for outcomes, start by manofesting shit yoj dont need/arent looking for.
For me ots money for example.
I struggle with women but have had soke succeses too

>>40945028
>Loa is lying to yourself
In my experiencw it always worked, albeit slmetimes takes months too happen.

>>40945028
No this is just faggotry thay overcomplicates a simple law.
I'm manifesting that LOA grifters all die a horrible death and the elegantly simple Neville techniques are all we have left. I suggest yall join me in this reality, it's fun over here.

>>40940655
Then why is this world ALL ABOUT LIMITS?! Moron

>>40945070
If LOA isn't real then why are you the exact massive faggot I assumed you to be? You massive faggot.

>>40945044
>No this is just faggotry thay overcomplicates a simple law.
Tbf it's Neville who complicates this shit. The guy in the video makes it very simple on the contrary.
Also his technique allows people to heal any kind of ailments, and he uses it to get stuff too. It's based on making the energy circulate inside your body. Powerful stuff.

He sells books about the subject, but he lays down everything you need to know, for free, in his videos and interviews.
His books are really masterpieces though, you should read them, they are short and sweet.

Look at his videos where he aligns bones live. I did it too, it's very easy to replicate what he's doing.

The next book to be published soon is about becoming younger with this same method. He practices since 40y (he's nearly 80) and noticed it made him look younger and stronger. He does 100 push-ups per day (recorded on camera) and looks like 50yo. Look at him in his recent videos, mind blowing.

Anyway I know you guys will mock all of this, but among you maybe one or 2 people will take some time to actually look at his work.

>>40945088
In case this thread is archived and someone wants to look him up, his name is Richard Gordon. A great and humble person. Answers questions on X as well if you need to contact him.

>>40945088
Isn't he the same faggot who suggests weird rituals like imagining your SP in some cosmic realm and visualizing the two of you getting closer?

That's convoluted faggotry. Neville's idea was simple: your imagination is real, the physical world follows. That's it. No stupid new age rituals.

>>40945070
>>40945088
>>40945113
Go back to Reddot

>>40945076
That was my first comment ITT you narcissistic clown. This is my 2nd.

>>40945088
>Look at his videos where he aligns bones live.
You’re an awful demonic thing

>>40945113
>Isn't he the same faggot who suggests weird rituals like imagining your SP

Not at all my man, he's not into ritual at all. He's a scientist. Very down to earth person.
But it's ok if you are not interested.
I am just offering an alternative to people who, like me, don't like to feel delulu or lying to themselves by applying LoA as it is commonly (and falsly) taught. Good luck.

>>40945139
I was like you first, but just look it up, nothing demonic. Life works like this, we are energy, there is no time no space, and bones respond to energy wherever you are, like the rest.
Do you want me to align your occipital bone my man? Hips maybe?

>>40945148
I could rearrange your face with my boot first. Everything is energy bones aren’t special faggot.

>>40945158
MANIFESTING THAT RICHARD GORDON AND ALL FAGGOTS WHO LISTEN TO HIM GET THE EVER LOVING SHIT BEAT OUT OF THEM.

THEY HAVE NO TEETH. THEIR FACES ARE PURPLE. ISN'T IT WONDERFUL?

>>40945158
Careful simp, show respect or I'm gonna shorten your (already short) d*ck

>>40945164
>simp
Low IQ confirmed. Learn words before using them randomly and haphazardly like that.

>>40945174
Dick shortened.
Good luck simp

>>40945184
I’ve been celibate for years. If you were a psychic of some kind you’d have a much more effective idea. Retard narcissist.

>>40945199
Apologize and I'll make it grow back to your initial 2 inches.

Why hasn't anybody replied to my question? :(
>>40942826

>>40945234
Because your question is retarded and so are you

I will manifest money and pussy.

>>40944314
>being unable to just assume and persist
How retarded do you have to be to be able to follow the most simple instructions on the planet?

>>40945367
Do it then you faggot. I'm already fucking your SP btw.

>>40944314
>he was unable to just assume and persist
How retarded do you have to be to not be capable of following the most simple instructions on the planet?

>>40943563
Are there any examples I could go off on?

>>40940531 (OP)
I manifested a motorcycle 2 weeks after I got my A license.
there was no realistic way for me to get one because at the time I was unemployed and only had 1500 euro to spare. for the two weeks after getting the license I just kept watching videos about riding and constantly daydreaming about that. then my grandma randomly sold her old house and gave me 4k euro just like that for no reason and it was enough for me to get the bike that I was watching on the local marketplace + some gear.
at the time I didn't know about the law but now it makes a lot of sense.

>>40945375
>Do it then you faggot. I'm already fucking your SP btw
Oooo so based.

>>40945395
>1500 euro
Fuck off faggot. This is an American website.

>>40945401
how is it like being fat, gay and retarded?

>>40945418
I wouldn't know because I'm not a eurofag

>I can manifest cancer upon myself. don't ask
Since I have (my parents pay me) a great healthcare plan + im not murrikan so there's public, free healthcare plans; Are there significant benefits of having cancer? So far, according to my research:
>given opioids which may mean high 24\7
>given free steroids (testosteronemaxx)
>roids + wasting syndrome mean I can eat 5K cal. a day of junk food and not get fat
>i do semen retention so any downsides\ side effects of treatment will be extremely minimal
>I can die soon. this planet is h* and im not being edgy or contrarian
>i can act like an a*shole \insane brat\ etc with impunity since I AM going to die soon
>probably will get assigned "caretakers"\ occupational therapists\ ambulant nurses ie; Servants
>can demand expensive stuff\ trips\ fun activities from my parents

>>40944279
Okay. Surely none of this is user's error, surely

>>40945028
Thanks anon. I just watched the full hour version of this. The guided meditation at the end is really great.

>>40945441
Downside is how you actually die. You eventually get weaker and weaker to wear you are semi-conscious and other people are having to bathe you and wipe you and feed you. Then you will struggle to breathe (agonal breathing) for about 24 hours and finally suffocate to death because you can't breathe

>>40945475
OK, but I have studied a lot about "adulting", and I know that, if I stay alive for 3 to 5 decades (im 30), I will suffer infinitely much more. Also, I have to die SOME day, in SOME way.
I'd rather go out having had 3 ,4 years of extreme fun, rather than become a (((tax-paying wageslave))) for half a century and then die anyways as an old fart.

>>40945441
>given opioids which may mean high 24\7
>given free steroids (testosteronemaxx)
>roids + wasting syndrome mean I can eat 5K cal. a day of junk food and not get fat
>i do semen retention so any downsides\ side effects of treatment will be extremely minimal
>I can die soon. this planet is h* and im not being edgy or contrarian
>i can act like an a*shole \insane brat\ etc with impunity since I AM going to die soon
>probably will get assigned "caretakers"\ occupational therapists\ ambulant nurses ie; Servants
>can demand expensive stuff\ trips\ fun activities from my parents
And why couldn't you manifest all of this without the cancer?

>>40945475
>>40945488
Trust me, dying of cancer is not a pretty death. What eventually happens is that you experience organ failure and you're put on hospice care where you slip in and out of consciousness for a few days, most of the time you're only aware of your pain while being too high to even say your goodbyes to your family.

Welp, I thought it already worked. I manifested an sp I met briefly. I was thinking of her and this beautiful certainly fell over me. I KNEW it was going to work.

I remember thinking "this is what they mean by 'the feeling is the secret.'" It's this feeling!

The next day, circumstances aligned and we met again, this time we talked for like 45 mins. We found that we had a lot in common. I got her number.

We went on a date and I also thought that went extremely well. Almost four hours just talking about our lives, making each other laugh. The time just flew by.

But after that she ghosted me. I haven't heard from her in weeks. It wasn't until week 2 that I lost that feeling of "it works. I'll see her again soon."

But now it's gone and I can't find it again. Feels bad, man.

>>40945579
>But after that she ghosted me. I haven't heard from her in weeks. It wasn't until week 2 that I lost that feeling of "it works. I'll see her again soon."

That's the whole problem right there, anon. You touched the state, YOU HAD IT, but then you dropped it and started living in the opposite assumption. The law doesn't care about your highs, it reflects your dwelling state.

Feeling is the secret but a lot of people confuse that with "feel intense emotions forever." You do not chase a spark, you just have to occupy the state of already having it and refusing to leave. You had it when you knew she was yours. Then you shifted into the state of waiting/missing/doubt, the world mirrored that too.

Ghosting = you ghosting your own assumption. That's all.

>But now it's gone and I can't find it again.
Stop trying to claw back the high from that first night. That was just your first taste. The actual practice is to go back in imagination, every night, into the end you desire, lying in bed, hearing her voice, knowing she's with you. That's SATS. Persist there and the bridge will unfold again.

Consciousness doesn't run on "it was working but now it stopped." It was always working, you just moved states.

>>40942429
Funny story, I might have accidentaly manifested my dream gf in high school, but I still managed to blow it. As a kid I would daydream about what it would be like to have a gf and i woulld usually imagine that she had a specific unusual name that i found pretty. When I started high school i was literally assigned to a girl who had that name in the first "get to know eachother" thing. I never really pursued her or even thought of it since she was "out of my league" so nothing came of it, but after graduating I realized she might have actually had acrush on me and it was specifically because I was the only person in class to call her by her full name.
Moral of the story: when it works, seize the opportunity

>>40943457
I've been thinking about it all a lot these last years. We can't tell if it's about changing this reality or sliding to one that fits our wish, but in the end it's exactly the same and it doesn't matter.
How do I learn to do it though? I see people saying they had success, using words and acronyms that I don't understand, but there is no instruction, especially for beginners. That's why I am trying LOA at the moment, at least there are easy instructions (thanks for that, OP), and of course Neville Goddard's books (but I admit I don't want to read them because I am a very very very very slow reader, it took me over a year to read half the book about transurfing).

>Just look up "reality shifting" on youtube or reddit
I don't know about you guys but I can't trust youtubers at all when it comes to anything paranormal, because their goal is to draw attention to their channel so of course they will naturally tend to exaggerate and even make things up.
I would trust redditors a little more but I expect them to exaggerate and lie too to draw attention.
I unironically trust 4chan anons more, here we have less reasons to lie, for nobody knows who's who.

Holy shit keep your shitfling on r9k

i lie about it not working so new faggs move away, i also do the blackpilling so newfaggots stay away.

>>40942826
>>40945234
Because the question is retarded. It is what gives the retard who is living here doing his pathetic "it's cruel, demonic, think on the kids!" act fuel to do what he is doing.
Proof looping is a thing. It's 100% the thing that makes real skepticfags fail because they want it to fail and it is a result.
That's why if you're sincere, you test with less urgent things and you don't start trying to cure a terminal 7 cancer or trying to get generational wealth before you die because you haven't had anything to eat for several days. You get your own proofs because external proofs ans testimonies are nothing but motivation at best. Don't start with a "maybe it's fake" mentality because you will fail, or better said, you will be giving what you're expecting, that was that: nothing.
> I am supposed to really believe at all time that it is already there, right?
In your imagination. You have to BE it while applying your method. having doubts and worries is ok while living your life if you don't dwell in them. This is not a loading bar from a program where something bad happens, shows error and you have to start from the beginning. Acknowledge your doubt, and let it pass. It's not about pretending every time or being schizo, that may help some people. It's about persisting and knowing that state is everything so that time doing your method fully is more powerful that those moments asking yourself you're going to fail.

>>40945401
a dweller from the soon to be american balkans has nothing to do here with that shitty attitude. go back and stay shut in your "venezuela but we have nukes" new police state.

>>40945441
Why are you SO retarded? Stop playing clownworld games and manifest those without needing cancer or any pathetic pity dance.
As someone who had it, it fucking sucks ans no amount of those shit you're enumerating will make it better. It fucking sucks so hard you won't be able to enjoy anything of that. If you're a weakling and you're so sure in your shitty blackpills, just do all those drugs, act like a retarded spoiled brat as you want and then fucking die, at least yo will enjoy the rest.
> retard believes semen retention will save him from downsides
>retard believes he will be able to have his shitty diet with all those downsides and is only worried about being fat
lmao, blackpilled, weakling, spoiled and also retarded? that is a shitty package, no wonder why you want to die. Not being fat is worse than cancer? are you a woman?

Can I manifest having a magic time-traveling "do-over" device?

100% serious. I'd be so happy if I had a button that let me fuck around and be a menace and then undo it so I won't have permanent consequences. Like quicksaving IRL

>>40945605

I already had that state until she ghosted me. I was still SATSing. It's not that I was chasing the high, I was just thinking it already worked and that we would just keep dating.

I lost it AFTER she ghosted. I'm trying to get it back but it's hard.

>>40940531 (OP)
Things are wonderful. My family easily helps everyone in need now and receives endless abundance in return. Things are better than ever and they continue to improve daily. Everyone who has ever helped me or my family is incredibly blessed and happy to see the immense wealth and endless happiness and success my family now enjoys

These generals are wonderful. All scriptingfags have fellated a shotgun barrel and the niggerpillers jumped into a woodchipper. Isn't it wonderful? I'm so grateful.

>>40945844
>I already had that state until she ghosted me.
That's the trap, anon. You assumed the "ghosting" was realer than your assumption. The 3D is always a lagging reflection, whenever you let the outer event dictate your inner state, you handed the steering wheel back to the mirror. Neville said it bluntly, "Do not condition your desire upon the acceptance of others. Do not let the outer world convince you."

>I was still SATSing.
I don't care if you do SATS every two hours, if your waking state is "she ghosted me, this failed," that's the state that dominates. The imaginal scene isn't magic by itself, it's a tool to plant you in the state. You've got to actually live from it the rest of the day, even if the 3D is spitting in your face.

>I lost it AFTER she ghosted.
That's exactly when you were supposed to hold. Have you considered that the ghosting might be apart of the bridge of incidents? I mean the ghosting is very likely just a bridge of incidence, a meaningless wobble the old state threw out. Most people crack right there and assume it’s over. The ones who persist in the end see the whole story re-arrange itself to match. What if she had one of her pets die and needed some space, and comes back loving you even more?

>I'm trying to get it back but it's hard.
Stop chasing the feeling and go back to the knowing. Feeling = emotions, they come and go. Knowing = state, and state doesn't depend on how your stomach churns that day. Pick a short end scene (her texting you, you two laughing together, her saying "I love being with you"), loop it in SATS, and then when doubts show up in the day, answer them with that inner conversation. That's the whole game.

tl;dr: You didn’t "lose" anything. You just stepped into the state of loss. Step back into the end and persist. Ghosting means nothing except what you decide it means.

>>40945579
Have you considered the ghosting might just be apart of the bridge?

>>40945951

I'm trying to embrace that as part of my frame but it's hard. I keep returning to the obvious interpretation of "if she was interested she'd write back."

I'll manage to get into that frame for a bit, but then I'll get triggered and fall back into the obvious interpretation.

The cat guy here.

I'm still having trouble with SATS and I haven't started doing affirmations yet. Since yesterday, I've felt like everything has stalled. I feel like I've given up, like it's all nonsense... I don't know, I'm feeling a bit hopeless.

Some people will probably say I'm just being stupid, "lol, just do affirmations." I'll try. But SATS is very difficult for me, although it seemed to be producing results even though I was doing it poorly.

>>40945951
>>40945948
Something that scares me with SP manifestations is how often a 3P appears. It's hard for me to continue even wanting a girl when a 3P is involved. Like what's the point if I'm just getting sloppy seconds?

Fucked up thing is it could just he a bridge of incidents to lead to the possibility of our relationship.

>>40945997
You cat is dead and you're never going to see it again. Was probably hit by a car or had its neck snapped by a wild animal.

>>40946017
Yeah, you just forgot that the cat I'm looking for isn't mine. All mine are safe at my house, you idiot.

>>40945997
That's normal, anon. Almost everyone hits that wall where the 3D hasn't shifted yet and the mind screams "this is bullshit." Neville literally called it the furnace of affliction, the period where your old state is dying out but the new one hasn't fully crystallized. Feels like stagnation, but that's just the bridge doing its quiet work.

>Some people will probably say I'm just being stupid, lol, just do affirmations." I'll try. But SATS is very difficult for me, although it seemed to be producing results even though I was doing it poorly.

You don't need to be a monk in deep trance. SATS """done poorly""" still works, because it's all about assumption, not perfection. Five seconds of really accepting "it's done" is more powerful than 30 minutes of wrestling. Same with affirmations, the words aren't magic, they are just a way of re-stabilizing yourself in the end state.

Practical tip: pick ONE short affirmation in the present tense ("I am ___ now") and loop it whenever hopelessness shows up. At night, instead of forcing visuals, just imagine what it would feel like to lay in bed already fulfilled. Even if all you manage is to feel relieved for a moment, that's SATS. That's the seed.

>>40946008
>Something that scares me with SP manifestations is how often a 3P appears.

That's literally just what the bridge of incidents is like, anon. You assume "she's mine," so now reality has to rearrange itself from the state where she wasn't. That rearranging often looks messy, 3Ps, fights, ghosting, weird detours. But it's none of your business how the bridge unfolds.

>Like what's the point if I'm just getting sloppy seconds?
How could you believe in loa and say this? That's you assigning meaning and sabotaging your own end. There are no "sloppy seconds" in consciousness unless you assume there is. If you claim her as yours, the state wipes the slate. In your reality, there is no 3P, no history, no before. You're trying to drag the dead old state into the new one.

>Fucked up thing is it could just be a bridge of incidents to lead to the possibility of our relationship.
Not "could," it is. The only question is whether you let the bridge spook you into dropping the assumption. If you do, the mirror reflects that. If you persist, the bridge collapses into the end you set.

The only third party that matters is you vs. your own assumptions. Handle that, and the outer 3P dissolves like mist.

>>40945997
brother you sound hung up on this. focus on other things. i been seeing you post for such a long time now.

>>40946037
Thank you so much for your kind words, anon. They really made me feel better. But I'm not sure what the "(I am ___ now") would be like in my case. What I want is to get a lost pet, which isn't even mine, back to its owner. Can you give me an example of a similar situation?

>>40946017
>blackpi
kill yourself.
Anyway i manifested my cat comingback afterit went missing for a week.
Bitch went to live at another house down the hill

>>40946073
You cannot change the past with LOA. You can decide that it doesn't matter but in my opinion a woman not being a virgin is axiomatically bad so I don't tolerate it.

>>40946037
is this guy lil anon?

>>40946082
There were entire threads where I didn't even appear... yes, I do other things with my life, but my LoA test is just for this case, that's why I'm here talking about it. What do you expect? Me talking about my friends, work, dating? No, thanks, I'm fine with all that in my life.

>>40946096
>You cannot change the past with LOA.

Why does everyone here always refuse to read Neville? Do you not know what revision is? Neville literally taught Revision. He wasn't even vague about it, he gave lectures on changing specific events. Students reported deaths undone, accidents averted, traumas erased, all because they revised in imagination and the world re-formed around it. I even revised my age back to being 19. The "past" isn't some fixed stone, it's part of the same dream of consciousness as the future. Both bend to the state you occupy.

>but in my opinion a woman not being a virgin is axiomatically bad so I don’t tolerate it.
That's a assumption. You're choosing to live in the state where that idea rules you. You could just as easily just assume she's pure for you, untouched, that she's yours in every possible sense, and the mirror will reflect it. But if you cling to "non-virgin = axiomatically bad," then you'll keep manifesting scenarios where it bites you, because the law doesn't filter, it just gives back what you insist on.

If you want a virgin, just assume it. If you want her as though she's always been yours alone, revise it. Both are 100% possible. The only thing impossible is holding the belief it can’t be changed and expecting it to change.

>>40946090
>went to live at another house
they be doing that

>>40946163
Nigger if you really believed kn revision then you wouldn't need a bridge of incidents would you? Revision only changes your current emotional state. You decide that in YOUR reality this is how it went and the physical world catches up with the implications of that.

Nobody has EVER manifested a change to the past. You can manifest that she loves you as much as she would if she weren't a virgin but you can't change the fact that another man's dick has been in her mouth.

Manifesting an SP in spite of a 3P is cuckoldry.

>>40946184
>Nigger if you really believed in revision
I mean seriously let's talk about how fucking retarded it is to say you believe in a bridge of incidents if you insist that you can literally revise the past.

WHY would it even be necessary? By all means I should be able to teleport to a new 3D where my SP is already wrapped around my arms, without any sort of in-between or character development.

>>40946184
>Revision only changes your current emotional state.
Yeah that's the cope people usually fall back on when they don't grasp what Neville was actually saying or straight up never even read a book from him. He never said revision was just therapy lol. He said "having revised, you will find the world changes to conform.” His students literally reported external facts altering, accidents undone, deaths reversed, court verdicts changed retroactively. This isn't just mood regulation dipshit.

>Nobody has EVER manifested a change to the past.

I have, Neville has, Neville's students did, and lots of others as well. You literally just locked yourself into that state with your words. The law reflects the state you occupy. If you believe the past is fixed, then yes, you'll see a fixed past. If you believe that consciousness is the only reality, which is literally what this thread is about, then the past is just as malleable as the future.

>You can manifest that she loves you as much as she would if she weren't a virgin but you can't change the fact that another man’s dick has been in her mouth.
That's just your fetishization of "facts." Consciousness doesn't care. You can assume she's always been yours alone and your world will bend to show you that. Maybe her history rewrites, maybe the memory is gone, maybe circumstances rearrange so the past you fear is no longer there. How is not your business.

>Manifesting an SP in spite of a 3P is cuckoldry.
Only if you keep identifying with competition as real. A 3P is just a shadow of your own divided assumption. Revise, and she's only ever been yours. Persist, and the mirror will clear. You can call it cope if you want, but you're still the one arguing for limitations in a system that literally only reflects back belief dude.

>>40946210
Read Neville for once please I am begging you.

>>40946246
Neville is not the authority on LOA. He contradicted himself on multiple occasions and talked out of his ass most the time.

You are also full of shit. You may have assumed a state of revision and changed present circumstances but you have not changed your past.

If revision were possible, we'd see people doing it unconsciously all the time. The reason we know manifestation is possible is because we can witness the physical world following our awareness at all times.
>Read Neville for once please I am begging you.
Not an argument. You cannot claim to believe in revision and bridge of incidents at the same time.

>>40946315
>You are also full of shit. You may have assumed a state of revision and changed present circumstances but you have not changed your past.
Well it says I am 19 on my ID so I don't know what to tell you.

But seriously you just need to read Neville, all these limiting beliefs are the reason for literally all of your problems.

>>40946330
>Well it says I am 19 on my ID so I don't know what to tell you.
You are lying for attention.
>But seriously you just need to read Neville
I've read more Neville than you have and it doesn't answer my question. If revision is possible then why is a bridge of incidents necessary?
>all these limiting beliefs are the reason for literally all of your problems.
If my limiting beliefs say that revision is impossible then it wouldn't be possible for you to have done it in any version of reality that I'm currently occupying.

So congratulations, you just called yourself out.

>>40946163
>I even revised my age back to being 19
Not to be that guy but what was your method of choice? Sats, affirmations, scripting?
>just assume, just decide, just be
Thanks I know I've read Neville

>I've read more Neville than you have and it doesn't answer my question
>*asks a question that is answered in the power of awareness*

Read Neville

>>40946438
>hallucinates answer
Nigger

>>40946394
Well if you believe in reality shifting (which already uses basically everything Neville taught) I just did that.

I focused on SATS primarily, every night I'd lie down, get drowsy, and imagine myself looking in the mirror at my body and feeling exactly how it would feel to already be 19. I layered it with inner conversations, hearing people refer to me as 19, doing things I used to do at that age, feeling the confidence and energy of that age.

I mean I just used the same techniques as shifters did.

>>40946506
How long did it take you to shift?

>>40946515
For me, the first subtle shifts happened within a few weeks, energy, mindset, small synchronicities. The full reality of me waking up and literally being 19, solidified in about two to three months of consistent SATS and affirmation + experimenting with different methods.

But it doesn't really matter considering that how long it will take you just depends on how deeply you believe in this and how much of the old state is alive.

>>40946163
>>40946330
>>40946438
>>40946506
>please read Neville
>LARPs as having read Pruning Shears of Revision
Nowhere has Neville ever claimed you can undo events from the past.

>It seems that it’s real, that I actually did experience it and I have found from experience that these revised days, if really lived, will change my tomorrows. When I meet people tomorrow that today disappointed me, they will not tomorrow, for in me I have changed the very nature of that being, and having changed him, he bears witness tomorrow of the change that took place within me.
>>40946560
This is either schizo nonsense, LARP, or both

>40946609
>Nowhere has Neville ever claimed you can undo events from the pa- ACCKKKKKKK ACKKK ACKKKKK *tranny noises*

https://coolwisdombooks.com/neville/neville-goddard-they-did-not-die-1968/

>>40946632
>tranny noises
Says the faggot trying to revise himself into a woman

>>40946609
>Nowhere has Neville ever claimed you can undo events from the past.
Why do so many people who have never read Neville think they know enough about him to make baseless claims like this? You know that he literally revised the death of his secretary, right?

>>40946692
You know he also literally claimed that death is one of the few things we have control over?

So which is it? You're using a dead grifter as the final voice of authority on how the law works when you don't even understand how the law works and you've literally never read any of his books.

>>40946163
>I even revised my age back to being 19.
>>40946330
>Well it says I am 19 on my ID
I am curious about it all. I guess you are the only one to remember your former life and for all other people you have always been younger. But what about the childhood friends you were still in contact with, or the objects you got during your childhood and you still had, have they changed in order to not be anachronisms?

You keep saying "read Neville". For now I am still trying OP's "simple technique". Do I need to read all of Neville Goddard's books? I am a very slow reader. If you should suggest me only one or two of his books to read, which ones?

>>40946733
>But what about the childhood friends you were still in contact with, or the objects you got during your childhood and you still had, have they changed in order to not be anachronisms?
Well I never had friends when I was 19. And it's not like I was super old before I shifted here, I was 20 and just wanted to shift back to a reality before I made some mistakes.

>You keep saying "read Neville"
Because the guy I was talking to doesn't have a good understanding of loa.

>Do I need to read all of Neville Goddard's books?
No, but they help. You will find out some things and strategies about the law you might have otherwise not have known about.

> If you should suggest me only one or two of his books to read, which ones?

Start with your Faith is Your Fortune and The Power of Awareness, If you only read these two, you'll get most of the tools you need to start manifesting effectively without drowning in every lecture or anecdote.

My subsconscious told me a new way to bypass bans.
Thanks Loa

>>40940559
I'm assuming that Indian Truck Drivers don't know what a Mansfield Bar is, or the origin of it's name.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzY6XIDSbT4

>>40946824
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/it3l07/til_the_steel_bar_that_hangs_from_the_backs_of/

I don't follow

>>40946796
Ah ok, I thought it was a bigger gape, like 10 years.
>shift back to a reality before I made some mistakes
Oh, so you didn't just made yourself younger, you went back to a past. That's freaking amazing and it gives me hope, my hugest wish would be to do exactly that, but the gap would be way more important than just a year. Of course I start with easier stuff.
By the way, would you say that the more probable an event, the more closer to our reality, the more easy to make it happen?

Thanks for the advice, I'll read these.

>>40946506
I thought reality shifting and LOA were two different ways to achieve the same result, but from what say these are actually the very same techniques?

Law of Assumption is outdated and there's a reason it turned into Law of Attraction over time.

Neville's theory was just a mental model to cope. It doesn't guarantee 3D results so he taught his students that imagination is the true reality and you should ignore the physical world if you want to be happy.

That's why he makes claims of outrageous shit like bringing back the dead, because even though it never actually happened, he FEELS that it happened, and that's what's important to him.

Law of Attraction actually helps bring about 3d results by acknowledging that the 3d is real instead of tucking your head inside your turtle shell of "imagination" and deciding that you will stay here.
It's why very few people in these threads ever have 3D results. And when they do, it's usually something mundane like
>I bought a car

>>40946911
lol thanks for the advice, gonna hide all these faggots coming here to argue the effectiveness of the law

>>40946911
>I'll hide in the turtle shell of my imagination so I can ASSOOM
Thanks for proving my point, retard.

>>40946889
Please summarize the Law of Attraction technique and how it is different from the Law of Assumption.

>>40947019
Law of Attraction:
>become a person who your desires naturally occur for.
>ATTRACT your goals.
>Still acknowledge that you live inside "the 3d world" and that there are things outside your control

Law of Assumption:
>believe with 100% conviction that you already have your desires
>it doesn't matter if you dont actually have them because your imagination is what's real and not the 3d world (copium)
>therefore you can change ANYTHING, CREATION IS ALREADY FINISHED (though nothing gets done in the 3D)

Law of Asslickers will tell you that you can lay in bed all day an your bank account will have $1,000,000,000 if you BELIEVE hard enough. Law of Attraction says if you act and think like a billionaire then you will attract the reality of having a billion dollars.

>>40947054
And to proce my point. The biggest manifestations we've had in this general are:
>a guy buying a car
>a guy fucking his cousin
It wasn't even a particularly luxurious car either. You know who else owns a BMW? My ex girlfriend. And she makes a measly $20 an hour. They're not particularly expensive cars.

>>40947068
>>40947054
You never believe anyways, what's the point.

If I wanted to manifest sex with someone who is in a relationship now, should I first manifest the break up, or go straight to the after of the act with them? I don't want to make her a cheater.

>>40947054
I fully believe in the Law of assumption but I think the Law of attraction is pure bullshit

>>40946889
>>40946911
>>40947054
Maybe believers in these two schools should not hate each-other but rather learn from each-other.
Or maybe we should have two different threads, for purists.

>>40947318
What about choosing a version where she is not in a relationship?

And by the way the anecdote you retards have of Neville bringing his dead secretary back to life is imaginal by his own admission

>Well, six or seven months after my secretary died, one night I was out, consciously, just as I am here. Al (my sister-in-law) came into the room, and my secretary who was then so-called dead six or seven months he came into the room. She said to me, “I still don’t believe one word you teach, Neville.” Then I said to her, “How can you say that when you see Jack?” She said, “What has he to do with what you teach?” I said, “Don’t you know that he died six months ago?” See, she’s not consciously out, she is in a dream state, so she’s not aware. Well, when I made the statement all of a sudden I can see her face begin to show a certain memory image, and she begins to bring back the knowledge that he did die six months ago. As she’s looking at Jack and Jack is here solidly real, I said to her, “I’ll show you how real he is.” I said, “Jack, come over here.” So Jack came, and I put my hand on his thigh, and the thigh was as solid as this. I said, “You see, my hand doesn’t go through his thigh. He’s real, he’s solidly real.” And with this, Jack did this to me [slapped his hand away]. He said, “Take your hands off!” just what he would have done were he here. There was no transforming power in death…the same Jack, on the wheel of recurrence. There is no death, but there are wheels within wheels within wheels in this world.

Even Neville himself never outright said you could literally change the past. He was already branded as a whacko during his time. He worded his teachings just vaguely enough for retards like you to fill in the gaps with the crazy possibilities.
>>40947296
Hi, you still haven't manifested anything in the 3D.
>>40947318
You should quit being a little bitch, hit the gym and smack her on the ass.

>>40947360
How would I specifically make sure she isn't in a relationship? Just visualize her saying she's single after we fuck?

>>40947318
Sorry to be the one to break out to you, anon, but everyone cheats.
>that's just your belief!
Yeah with good reason. Every married friend of mine has side pieces. Just imagine the sex and don't worry about her relationship status.

>>40946875
>I thought reality shifting and LOA were two different ways to achieve the same result, but from what say these are actually the very same techniques?
NTA but they are both pretty much the same thing. Reality shifting is just the newer internet label for stuff Neville was teaching decades ago, which is why shifters usually cite Neville when they give out advice. Both boil down to the same mechanics, assume a state in imagination, persist in it, and let awareness do the rest.

Shifters talk about scripts, subliminals, and methods like the raven or alice in wonderland, but those are just ritualized ways of doing SATS or living in the end. Affirmations, visualization, feeling real, it's all the same toolkit.

The only real difference is in presentation. Shifting communities frame it in multiverse/science-fiction language, while Neville framed it in biblical/mystical language. But the same core is the same, consciousness moves, reality conforms.

>>40946560
How much did you do your inner conversations/affirms/other methods beside SATS during the day? Estimate rougly in minutes please

The people who don't believe in Neville that come to this thread (that's about Neville btw) everyday just to shit it up for no reason need to be studied, and possibly quarantined.

>>40945458
>Thanks anon. I just watched the full hour version of this. The guided meditation at the end is really great.
My pleasure anon.
Yes I think this guy nailed it, LoA gives better results when practiced this way.
Look up his work about energy healing, this is very interesting,
All of this is connected to the same thing, life force energy.

>>40945605
>But after that she ghosted me. I haven't heard from her in weeks. It wasn't until week 2 that I lost that feeling of "it works. I'll see her again soon."
>That's the whole problem right there, anon. You touched the state, YOU HAD IT, but then you dropped it and started living in the opposite assumption. The law doesn't care about your highs, it reflects your dwelling state.

Or... Maybe women just act like that. They enjoy a good date (even more if you pay for everything) and then they move on to their next one. It was just your turn.
Loa only works for women. The secret ingredient here is *pussy*

>>40945844
>I already had that state until she ghosted me. I was still SATSing. It's not that I was chasing the high, I was just thinking it already worked and that we would just keep dating.
>I lost it AFTER she ghosted. I'm trying to get it back but it's hard.

Mate stop, you didn't induce the date at the first place, and you won't have any control of the rest either.
We meet people everytime, they come and go all the time in our life. These are random events. And if they are not random, they were just pre-programmed in your life at your birth.
Stop thinking you have any control on those. It will make you depressed and delulu in the long term.
Life is easier when you dont try to do this shit and just let events happen.
Been there done that.

>>40947548
if that were real, LoA would work for you because you're the biggest pussy in this general

> Or... Maybe women just act like that. They enjoy a good date (even more if you pay for everything) and then they move on to their next one. It was just your turn.
Loa only works for women. The secret ingredient here is *pussy*

> Mate stop, you didn't induce the date at the first place, and you won't have any control of the rest either.
>We meet people everytime, they come and go all the time in our life. These are random events. And if they are not random, they were just pre-programmed in your life at your birth.
>Stop thinking you have any control on those. It will make you depressed and delulu in the long term.
>Life is easier when you dont try to do this shit and just let events happen.
>Been there done that.

>>40947568
>if that were real, LoA would work for you because you're the biggest pussy in this general
Everyone is you pushed out according to your guru. Enjoy being a pussy, simp.
Anyway who said it doesn't work for me?
It works, but I'm not using Neville BS.

Can someone please tell here what did Neville Goddard achieve exactly using law of ass?

Because all I find is:

- going to barbados (with his brother's money)
- avoiding the military (due to his age lol)
- ... that's all

From what I know he had a horrible death, his wife too, was an alcoholic all his life, and his children left him.

So I'm asking you lemmings, why are you listening to this guy?

I need a miracle now.

>>40947670
Because they're losers and the only way they can be winners is by deciding so in their imaginations, which is the only thing that's real.
There are ZERO 3D success stories on this general. We have a guy who thinks buying a BMW is a miracle fucking kek

Nobody in this general can account for the times the law unconsciously didn't work for them. Just regular mundane shit that happened against or despite their assumptions. Shit, how many times have you thought "this is so fucked up. I am fucked. It's over" only for things to turn out fine in the end?
>b-but it wasn't your baseline assumption
fuck off with your revisionism. You had an assumption, you affirmed it in your head, and it controlled your emotional state.
If you still believe in the law of "assumption" in 2025, you are retarded.

>>40947670
Making you seethe
>>40947958
Don't call others losers when you reply to yourself

>>40947670
Why don't you open a Law of Attraction thread instead of trolling this Law of Assumption thread?

>>40947994
I'm very sorry for doing this but I have to tell you the only retard in this thread is you. My condolences.

>>40948273
Tuck your head in your imaginal turtleshell, LOAcuck

>>40947994
>Shit, how many times have you thought "this is so fucked up. I am fucked. It's over" only for things to turn out fine in the end?
Never

Do i must have discipline? I hate it here, everything requires struggle and effort, I just want to live in a reality without that

>>40948480
No

>>40948482
Fuck this gay shit I have tinnitus and keep getting nightmares I just want to kill the troon who is doing this to me

>>40940531 (OP)
The ladder experiment doesn't make sense. "Keep on trying it until you eventually climb a ladder". Bro that is not how experiments work.

>>40945844
Bro. Don’t listen to retards trying to “analyze” what you did, finding mistakes etc
You didn’t do anything wrong
Here is the truth: these people here are like blind people touching an elephant and coming up with what it is. No body knows how to fully utilize loa, if they knew they wouldn’t be here TELLING YOU ABOUT IT.
I mean think about it, if you had a jini in a bottle, would you tell people about it? Nope you wouldn’t

Just do what you did before, and see if it does work again, if not, change a detail and try again
But never get desperate

>>40940705
Do not wish, live in the end, you have your extraordinary wealth already
Surprised this thread is so low quality, no one responds or spreads wisdom

>>40948890
rare good post on here
honestly this place was nice for finding out about the law, and coming back to it after I gave up a couple times
but beyond that there's no reason to come here, it's honestly mostly detrimental in every way

The less you care

The more power you have :)

>>40949502
Careful with that framing dude. It's not apathy that gives you power, it's detachment.

When you stop obsessing over "how/when/why," you're no longer affirming the lack of what you want. That frees you to actually rest in the assumption that it's already yours. If you truly had it, you wouldn’t be anxious, so the less you care feeling is just what naturally happens after you've accepted the end as real.

Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27 Which of you by worrying can add one [a]cubit to his [b]stature?

28 “So why do you worry about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin; 29 and yet I say to you that even Solomon in all his glory was not [c]arrayed like one of these. 30 Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?

31 “Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

Oh my GOD it is literally spelled out in the bible.

>>40940807
fuck you

>>40940807
Immunity Dog has done his job.

Are anons aware of any good reality shifting information or communities, can be even in other languages? I am interested in something like experiencing different lives, it doesn't even need to be "real". I can lucid dream, and relatively easily too, but it's not a satisfactory experience and not quite what I'm trying to do.

>>40950162
I mean you could just go to any loa group and get pretty much the same information, it doesn't really matter. Reality shifting is eventually just the same skillset as loa, persisting in the end, and letting imagination become the real.

Shiftingfags just wrapped it up in their own lingo, "scripts," "methods," "the void state" etc, but it's the same foundation, hold the assumption of being there until the 3D matches. Neville just cuts through the bs and shows you the mechanics without the gimmicks.

>>40950162
shifters are just going to teach you loa again but with a bunch of added gimmicks so what's even the point lmao

>>40946889
based

crushed my dreams of becoming taller tho :(

N

>>40950231
> "scripts," "methods," "the void state" etc,
Yes and this stuff is rather boring as they all talk about what they wanna do but not actually what they are getitng. But I am very interested in experiences of people shifting, as in altering reality beyond what we would consider realistic in regular loa communities. If you tell regular loa people you want to experience a year living as an idk 1920s moonshine brewer in Appalachia, best you can get is manifesting content about the 1920s or diy alcohol in your daily life. Only shifting people claim to have a chance to actually have that experience

>>40950402
Think about it. If LOA was capable of that, then people would be unconsciously manifesting height all the time. It would just be "a thing," where someone suddenly gained or lost a few inches of height after their early 20s and before old age.
>>40950594
Reality shifting is also schizo nonsense.

>>40948135
>>40948257
Why don't you reply to my question anons, instead of trolling?
You probably dont know what to answer since my question was a hard pill to swallow.

My question, again
>Can someone please tell here what did Neville Goddard achieve exactly using law of ass?
>Because all I find is:
>- going to barbados (with his brother's money)
>- avoiding the military (due to his age lol)
>- ... that's all
>From what I know he had a horrible death, his wife too, was an alcoholic all his life, and his children left him.
>So I'm asking you lemmings, why are you listening to this guy?

I also wonder why people who succeed (lol) are still here on a fucked up board instead of living their best life manifesting all day long. Weird, doesnt make sense.

>>40949571
There are plenty of things you stop thinking about, and still never happen.
A law always has precise rules : A+B=C. Results are consistent. LoA is called a law but it's obviously not one.

>>40948890
>Bro. Don’t listen to retards trying to “analyze” what you did
That's the worst thing to say to someone obsessed about an ex. Moreover, he just said she has someone else in her life, and you told him to ignore this person. What kind of psycho are you ?
The best thing to do in this case is to move on, find someone else and forget this girl asap for his own sanity.

>>40950833
Just listen and believe.

Law of Asslicking is a CIA psyop engineered to make people with pattern recognition complacent in their imagination.
>don't lift a finger
>don't worry about what's happening in the real world
>don't ask questions
>just believe that everything is perfect, and that becomes your reality!
Boom. Schizos and people with latter recognition are sedated.

>>40950856
perhaps this explains gravity

>last night, imagined myself weighing in this morning with an exact number on the scale
>something realistic, just wanted to have a good week
>mfw i weigh in this morning and it hits the exact number to the decimal point

The slippery slope:
>manifesting is easy! You just need to affirm! It doesn't matter if you have doubts!
>you didn't get your manifestation because you had doubts
>what? You wanted 3d results? Imagination is the ONLY reality.
>Read Neville's entire self-contradicting catalogue again, I'm not going to spoonfeed your valid questions!

>>40950966
people who struggle with neville should switch to joseph murphy and keep it simple

>>40950977
Neither one of them work. They're both scam artists and televangelists who never manifested anything other than money from desperate people looking for guidance.

seems like jidf really went into overdrive after i exposed them, jews fear the manifester because he can fully dismantle talmudic thought.

>>40950162
I spent a couple hours on reddit /shiftingrealities/ last night and I was disappointed. My feeling was: hundreds of thousands of members trying, and a few teenager girls vaguely claiming that they sometimes get to visit the world of their favorite manga... Nobody ever gives enough detail for it to seem real. This didn't give me hope at all, it sounded more like people chasing a mirage and a few ones getting to autohypnose themselves at best or just lie. :( I still want to believe, and I'll still try LOA.

>>40951084
Manifesting is a Jewish psyop you fucking retard.
They laugh while you're putting your hands under your ass cheeks and "imagining" the world a better place instead of taking action.

>he even replies to me instantly
yeah, it's the same dude.

>>40950594
the reality shifting subreddit and tumblr will have all kinds of interesting stories you can read, but these people mostly just shift to universes where fictional characters are real, not really anything else.

>>40947054
Idc about being a billionaire unless the billions can buy me a physical bodily change

>>40950977
>>40951084
Everything in this world is getting worse. Cost of living, deception, degeneracy, loss of critical thinking, WW3, new pandemics....

Your manifestation attempts appear to be acting against us. Provide some evidence that you've manifested anything positive in this world, for the benefit of others. So far, you've failed.

>>40951133
i don't need to manifest anything positive in the outer world.

>>40951147
>the outer world
As within so without, faggot

>>40950594
> If you tell regular loa people you want to experience a year living as an idk 1920s moonshine brewer in Appalachia, best you can get is manifesting content about the 1920s or diy alcohol in your daily life.
That's exactly the only difference between how normie loa communities frame it vs how the "shifting" ones do. Traditional loa groups like this one keep it on the "plausible" track, money, SPs, jobs, health, because people get spooked if you start talking about going into full alternate timelines. But Neville never said there was a limit, he said the world is yourself pushed out and that all states exist, which would include being a 1920s moonshine runner in Appalachia. It’s honestly why I am going to take a break from this thread since it's become very normiefied.

Like the reason you see shifting people being able to describe wild scenarios is because they completely dropped the filter of what's realistic. They approach imagination as literal reality, not daydreaming until it lines up in a boring way.

I mean if you want to read about experiences just go to any RS subreddit or tumblr and start treating your imaginal scene as the actual fact. The annoying fags here who will say "Loa can't do that" are just exposing their own assumptions. The line between manifesting $100 and living in spongebobs universe is arbitrary, both are just states lol.

>>40951133
>Your manifestation attempts appear to be acting against us. Provide some evidence that you've manifested anything positive in this world, for the benefit of others. So far, you've failed.
i only have anecdotes, no proof. and why would you believe me? i can take a picture of the good stuff that's happened in my life and would it make a difference to you who doesn't believe? get busy proving it to yourself

>>40951171
>But Neville never said there was a limit
Of course he didnt. Because vaguely worded books allow retards like you to project their desires onto what he says ao he doesn't have to take accountability for what people try to achieve.

Notice that he never manifested anything other than a trip to Barbados.

>"what metho-"
Just affirm
>"how do you manifes-"
Just affirm
>"how did you do i-"
Just affirm

>>40951225
And when that doesn't work you'll tell people they weren't living in the end enough.

>>40951201
>Notice that he never manifested anything other than a trip to Barbados.
It doesn't even count because his rich brother gave him the money to go there. What a surreal manifestation lol.
This guy is just a good speaker and narrator, for the rest it's just plain fraud.
Wouldn't surprise me if we found he was hired by the US gov to psyop people.

>>40940531 (OP)
Lel. My gf and her sister in cartoon form

Rod Serling was a student of Neville. He even made several episodes that are LoA coded, one where the main character scripts.
>A World of His Own
>The Big Tall Wish

>>40951239
It's frustrating because we know there is metaphysical truth to the mind preceding reality but the FUCKING RETARDS in this community turn it into a Neville Goddard worship community, and any point of discussion devolves into
>Neville said
>Neville never said
So I think you might be right. I refuse to believe so many people could be this retarded. I think there is a source of manifestation and the Jews keep distracting us with Neville as a dogma so we don't get closer to it.

>>40950856
>>40951091
>>40951239
Genuinely curious to why you're still posting in here. Surely if it's fake you have nothing to gain but lost time, better spent elsewhere. What's worst, people imagining nice things in their life and wasting time or someone trying to squander that and again, wasting time.

>>40951234
when it does work for me, i legit get the feeling of living in the end though. the weird thing is that sometimes i can't get there. it's like i know in advance whether the manifestation is going to work out. not sure why. something out of alignment maybe

>>40951280
>legit feeling of living in the end
>i can't get there

Hmmmmmm, i wonder why you can't get there…

>>40951280
"Living in the end" and "i can't" should definitely not be in the same post lol.

>>40951277
It's literally just a troll dude

>>40951254
Robert Serling was a Jew and Neville was a zionist

>>40951305
>>40951300
lol i know but that's how it feels though. maybe i'm doing a bad job of explaining. but it's like it becomes way too difficult to live in the end if you really don't see it happening.

emmett fox says that the proof of the thing should be in how you feel, right now. and when i have amazing manifestations, that's the case. i affirm and feel like "okay i've got it. that was a great affirmation." and then when i struggle, it doesn't click for some reason

>>40951313
So am I

>>40951318
That's actually a trap, you're making your faith contingent on whether or not you can feel it "click" but that's backwards. The feeling isn't about a rush of certainty or fireworks, it's just about assuming the fact quietly and persisting there regardless of mood.

>emmett fox says that the proof of the thing should be in how you feel
But he meant the settled conviction that comes from refusing to argue with yourself, not "did I get da buzz this time or not?l

When you assume "it doesn't click so I can't live in the end," you're handing authority to appearances. That's why you feel like you know in advance, it's just you reading your own doubt as an omen.

I would recommend you stop grading the scene by how it feels in the moment. Even if it feels flat, still claim it. Persist in the end regardless of whether it clicks. The bridge unfolds because of dwelling in the assumption, not because you hit some high.

>>40951368
it sounds backwards but i'm doing a poor job of explaining it i guess. i'm not advocating for waiting for the feeling, i'm talking about how easy it is to slip into

maybe i need to be more stubborn about it. in some of my most miraculous manifestations, i just kept affirming affirming affirming until i was there

Can you please explain to a beginner (whose first language is not english to cap it off) what you mean by "live in the end", does it mean "pretending that the wish is already fullfilled"?

>>40951398
feel it real man.

your brain can't tell the difference between a (You) simulated scenario and a real one.

so if you cook up something you like in your mind, you'll feel it hard, and it'll become real!

>>40951398
it means that you should feel so good about your affirmation or imagined scenario that by the time you're done, you feel like the problem is already fixed, or you already have the thing you want.

>>40951425
If this were true then all of our daydreams would manifest.

>>40951377
I get what you're saying. Some states are like butter, you slip right in without effort. Others feel like grinding gears. That's normal.

The difference isn't that one "works" and the other doesn't it's just that in the effortless ones you stop checking and just dwell there. When it feels harder, the mind is louder and you keep testing the soil to see if the seed took.

>>40951398
>does it mean "pretending that the wish is already fullfilled"?
Pretty much, yeah. Living in the end just means you stop imagining yourself as the one who wants and start imagining yourself as the one who already has.

It's not really "pretend" in the sense of make believe or daydreaming. It's more like taking on the identity of the person who has the wish fulfilled, and letting that be your normal state of mind.

Example: if your wish is to be rich, you don't keep affirming "I want money someday." You assume "I am already wealthy," and in imagination you feel the relief, the calm, the gratitude, the way you would think about money if it were already a done deal. That's living in the end.

>>40951368
>The feeling isn't about a rush of certainty or fireworks, it's just about assuming the fact quietly and persisting there regardless of mood
Not true. Read Neville

>>40951466
What are you talking about you dumb nigger? Neville literally said the feeling is the assumption of the wish fulfilled, not from any emotional highs. Feeling in his language is just "the acceptance of the state as fact." He repeats over and over that it's quiet, natural, and often feels like nothing dramatic.

Low iq fags like you confuse "feeling" with "emotions." Neville never told you just to chase butterflies in your stomach, he told you to rest in the knowing that it's already done.

>>40951499
Neville specifically said that intellectually understanding that you have your desires isn't enough.
You dumb nigger.

>>40951512
But he clarified what is. Feeling isn't about emotion, it's about identification. In feeling is the secret he literally says "It is not the emotion of wishing fulfilled but the acceptance of the fact that it is fulfilled." That’s the distinction, you don't stop at thinking about the state, you assume it as your being.

The opposite of intellect only is embodied knowing, not emotional theatrics.

>>40951541
>Feeling isn't about emotion
Feeling IS emotion. Any contrary assertion is pretentious new age drivel.

So the new "trolling" meta changed from fake empathy and asking for "le proof" to "every guide, especially Neville is a demonic, three letter agency asset"?

>>40951631
the small hat tribe really has nothing on this, every accusation they make is a confession.

>>40951631
>>40951652
Who benefits from you laying in bed making believe instead of taking action? You dense CIA nigger

You are right, but manifestations into being are prevented unless they're identical to my aims, my manifestations I'm trying to bring about, which are all your prayers and mine and everyone else worth half a damn, where as many can be granted as possible.

I can help you. I could change tiny parts of your body, including nervous system, to help your unconscious automatically align your desires so that they fit more easily, rapidly, and forcefully with mine. That is one of the powers I gave meditator of eastern methods in another thread the other day here, among other powers. Anything you successfully manifest was fated, and so earns you spiritual reward to be dispensed as soon as possible, typically once our powers are enough to provide it to you, to the degree we can.

Misfatings, such as trying to manifest Bezo's bank account contents into your mattress, have to be tossed out, unless it's just in your imagination you desire it. But there are blessings that seem like misfatings because you can imagine anything as awesome happening, some of you, and you simply need to work on it.

My bodies and my soul are bound to fulfilling as many wishes as possible for all beings in all life times, and you can hear that in the astral if you listen close; it's a beacon that draws others to me astrally when they don't fight it, and being nearer to me astrally increases your astral strength. But more aggressive means such as nuerosurgery and liver surgery, bone surgery, atom surgery, the surgery of your dead bodies and even your heavenly before you get it, as well as your pre-life before you ever once lived yield greater results. The way we learn how to do that is preferentially placed in your nervous system but that can depend on the results we're looking for, and other things, such as if there's even a single being trying to stop you, and there are many. We can do some in them for sinning.

"Bro just BE that guy"

OK how? It feels like im forcing ut nigga!!

>>40951879
Ironically, identity shifting is the only legitimate form of manifestation and it goes against what Neville teaches about your awareness being God's collective consciousness.
It really might feel fake at first but you can almost physically feel your consciousness being wrapped around its new identity.
And from this new identity, nothing will happen to you that you do not allow.

It helps to just visualize the person you want to be and decide "I'm him" Fall back into the new identity and let it consume your thoughts amd behaviors. When you breathe, piss, eat, or sleep, do it from your new identity.
You don't need permission from fhe world do embody it because your identity is the one thing that you control.

>>40951879
Wish it. Will it, see it, feel it, know it, imagine it, pretend it but try to make it real when you do.

If you care about accuracy, try to intuit what you're allowed to do before you do it. Think about how what you desire relates to other beings, what they want, what will disadvantage you down the road, the possible side-effects. Supply focus to me, to the universes, to the other powers, why should they spare theirs on you?

>>40950847
Nigga you have the worst reading comprehension if you got that from what I wrote
Whatever, do what you want

>>40947958
No anon. I think the miracle for his case is becoming a millionaire before becoming 20, from death of a cousin he had no idea that even existed and somehow put him in a will
That’s a miracle alright

>>40952014
You're an idiot if you believe that part is true.

It is one thing to refuse an offer of a miracle, it is another to forbid that they happen, which is a sin. To say that, "That will not happen in me no matter what," is a sin.

>>40940708
nigger manifest better handwriting

For cat anon

>>40947958
>There are ZERO 3D success stories on this general
Well, there's one from 5 years ago. You get banned for talking about Him though.

Knowledge of the law itself is a major hindrance in conscious manifestation.

If I told you that Karma is real, and that doing good actions will result in fortune coming back to you, that would permanently change the way that you view your own acts of kindness. You may still have underlying good intentions, but you will always double check to see if your actions are good enough to come back and reward you.

The Law of Assumption is the same way. Once you realize that your thoughts create reality, it becomes difficult to think outside of a transactional system where "thoughts that reinforce my desires = desired outcome"

This is why you often hear people say "My life was going really well until I discovered the law". Because before they discovered the law, their thoughts were unconditional to the outcome.
>but that's why detachment is important!
And the importance of detachment just creates another transactional layer for people to analyze. If you tell people detachment = wish fulfilled then you're back at square 1.

Perhaps this might explain why Neville himself never manifested anything noteworthy. A man constantly focused on the mechanisms of the law cannot truly detach from it and assume the identity of someone in their ideal life.

He sacrificed himself for our sins. Rip

>>40952323
Cat guy here. Thanks anon, the cats I'm looking for aren't mine, but one of them disappeared a year ago, just like the one described. I'll try that, thanks!

Why do so many people here think everyone has the same desires? Why do people on here care so much about whether someone else's manifestation is "meaningful" or "noteworthy"? Why does what other people manifest mean anything to you?

Too many of you think everyone has the sam desires, and if their desire looks different than yours, somehow it means the law is fake.

Anon manifests his dream car and it's a bmw, not a lamborghini. Who cares? That's what he wanted. Some want a million, some want just enough to cover rent and beers. Some want to see the world, some just want to go to barbados.

Stop looking at what others manifest as a ceiling on you. Don't think "well if they can only do X, then that's all I can do." Don’t think "that's too big for me." Don't think "they did it in 2 weeks, I've been at it for months, I must be failing." That's NPC logic.

You don't know their assumptions. You don't know their resistance. You don't know how much they affirmed, or how naturally it clicked for them. Different people, different states.

>>40952595
>Why do people on here care so much about whether someone else's manifestation is "meaningful" or "noteworthy"?
That's just the /loa/ shitpost meta at the moment, real /loa/ anons ignore those posts.

>>40952031
>you are an idiot if you believe it
Alright, so you believed the BMW, but not believe the rest.
Basically pick and choose what you believe in?
Guy comes in and tell you a story and you pick and choose?
So then there is no evidence in your mind, everything is a lie etc
Again, believe all you want, I genuinly don’t care

>>40952644
>so you believed the BMW
The BMW had proof and most people making above minimum wage can afford one.

>>40952708
How the fuck he gonna show proof of his money? Bank statement? Can be photoshopped
Actual money? He can buy fake bills
Hell, bmw can be just a rando bmw in a Parking lot too
Open casket of his cousin might satisfy you?
Face it. Nothing can satisfy you, and that’s ok mate.

>>40952595
Not everyone has the same goals, but statistically there has to be someone following Neville's method to manifest a whole bunch of grand shit.

But we never see people manifest things beyond their 3D circumstances. It's always
>my ex texted me
>I got an offer from one of the 800 jobs I applied for
>I bought something mildly expensive (like a MacBook or a car)
Where's the fucking loser who manifested a billion dollars into his bank account?
>but muh bridge of incidents
Shut the fuck up. You will flip flop on how important the bridge is.

>>40952738
He posted his bmw + car keys with timestamp. You're retarded.
Also, like I said, a BMW isn't particularly difficult to obtain as long as you're not a fucking bum.

If I posted a picture of a chocolate chip cookie you'd have no reason to doubt I'm making it up. Whether or not I "manifested" it is another matter.

>>40952766
No nigger. Car key can also be fucking faked you fucking idiot.
They are replicas online on Amazon
But whatever, you do you
Believe or not believe all you want
Personally don’t care
I don’t get my happiness from “winning o arguments, nor this general or board, 4chan, or the entire Interent
So, I don’t know what this whole thing is about

>>40952793
If you had godlike success, you'd either be lowkey as hell and also people would dismiss you as LARPing anyway. Nobody believes those posts when they actually get made here, so why would they bother?

The people who care about that stuff are just 3D slaves looking for validation anyway lol.

>>40952819
>3D slaves
Oh its the BMW anon himself with his forced meme again.
Noone believes you have $2million

>>40952819
>>40952849
Here is what I would be: if I knew how to make $100 daily on stock market, 100% of the times, you bet your ass I won’t tell ANYONE about it
Let alone literally knowing magic and assumption etc etc
So yeah, even if I knew I wouldn’t tell anyone and that’s a fact
I don’t know about others

>>40952865
According to Neville other people's success wouldn't diminish your own. That would just be a self imposed belief. The bridge of incidents would ensure that you are wealthy even if everyone else on earth also had a million dollars.

>>40952849
Yeah and also no one believes you have any sense of a meaningful life and there would be people who would miss you if you killed yourself, so I guess we both lose huh lil bro?

>>40952874
No I just DONT tell people
Making 100 reliable is nothing
It’s the principle part, no matter how big or small, I won’t spill literal beneficial secrets
No no, I treat them like super top secret, and only enclose them to my children

>>40952887
Why are you so mad anon? You have $2 million. Surely mean comments on 4chan don't mean anything to you?
:^)

>>40952913
>he's not denying it
I am just saying the truth, I am pretty sure everyone in this thread thinks you're a loser if you spend all day dedicating yourself to shitting up a random thread on 4chan. Like if died tomorrow I highly doubt it would effect really anyone in the world.

Just kill yourself pls you are a waste of biomass. No desire for the ascension of life within you.

>>40952993
You're literally proving to everyone here that your $2million is an endstate LARP at best lmao.

Fucking loser. Get a job and maybe you'll pay off your BMW.

I feel stupid...
For months I've been having the impression that when I was afraid of something bad being happening or about to happen, if instead of being afraid and expecting it to happen I rather decided, convinced myself, that it was different and I was afraid for nothing, then it was indeed different and I was surprised how often it worked, practically every time, which was too often to be a coincidence. And I just realized now that this is exactly what LOA is about... It's not about pretending a lie is true, it's about deciding what is true.

>validate my claims for me
No. You live in a pathetic LARP and spend 24/7 in your own head so go ahead and live with whatever assumptions you want.

Funny how my life is better than yours and I didn't need to shout affirmations like a schizo for it.

>>40952993
>>40953048
You're not denying his claims either

>>40951920
>>40951923

So wait you telling me if I imagine a version of myself dating a hot latina bimbo supermodel with G cup tits then visualize myself "walking into" that version of myself then act like im that guy then im good? She'll come of i truly believe im that guy using this technique?

>>40953076
>he is still not denying it
I am just saying shitposting in this thread is not going to make your parents NOT regret giving birth to you, besides maybe tie a noose around your neck and kicking the chair, I recommend trying that strategy, you could be an hero of /loa/!

>>40953113
You really talk like a person who has $2 million, BMW Anon. Your inner world is so peaceful and perfect, it's only a matter of time before the 3d catches up! You got this.

>>40950737
yes thats kind of why LOA doesn't make sense to me if it's so potent and real why do people never manifest staying young forever

>>40953182
Don't forget
>we are always manifesting whether we like it or not!
>but the law works the way you ASSUME it does

>>40953182
To me, mind power is real, but no one knows how to use correctly.
I mean fuck, we all dreamed before, and we all know how stuff just come into existence from just thinking about them , right?
How come that we can’t do the same thing in real life then? I mean if you can taste food (which is bunch of hormones fires up at the same time) then why can’t we just release the same hormones while awake? We don’t know, but dreams show me that we can do a lot of things, and it means they can be replicated in real life too.
I am just testing different shits, and have no loyalty fo gurus or methods
And trust me, if I even find the most minuscule discovery, like getting a cup of coffee once a day for free through mind power, I won’t tell a soul about it
You shouldn’t either

>order Chinese takeout
>fortune cookie says "your heart's desires will be filled with love"
Suck it skepticfags

Yall niggers still yapping and memeing about LoAfags? It's Friday night for fucks sake. Go outside

>>40953076
Clearly not. You've been posting here all day. Sadder than the loafags :/

>>40951264
Totally agree.
There is a way to bend reality or switch timeline but it's certainly not by following Neville's precepts. It's kept secret.

>>40951277
>Genuinely curious to why you're still posting in here.
We fundamentally don't like watching people being scammed live, so we come here to wake up the cattle in a way.
Ii was a sheep too 2 years ago trying to apply LoA, wasting my time in delusions. I finally opened my eyes after a year realizing all of this was a scam, and I'm now doing my part by telling people to not lose their precious time in earth with this.
Don't lie to yourself, living in your head will never make things happen in your reality, ever.

>>40951425
>your brain can't tell the difference between a (You) simulated scenario and a real one.
Lol, I often read this nonsense.
Your brain totally makes the difference between your imagination and reality. Stop this BS.
Maybe your brain is not capable of this, but i assure a normal brain can and does it all day long.

>>40952993
hey bmw anon, I started applying affirmations for my main desire. But I find that only reading list once + affirming it only once that all on my list is coming true feels like very low effort and that it won't be enough. did you affirm about your your list many times during the day?

>>40953936
>Don't lie to yourself, living in your head will never make things happen in your reality, ever.
Tell that to Trump, the master manifester

>>40953936
>we
Ah, it's a gay discord. Got it.