Would a Misaki really do that

novel

she looks cuter in anime

>>279586738
she's very evil

I love them all

>>279586782
>>279586774
>>279586742
>>279586738
You have to choose between the two.

The manga is retarded. Why even call it NHK if you're going to change everything but the names?

>>279586841
ok well I love anime more and the english voice

>>279586684 (OP)
Anime Misaki isn't a whore so her

>>279586968
Wasn't this based on a LN or something?
What's the original Misaki like?

>>279586684 (OP)
I want to rape both

>>279587044
The character's are mostly the same in the LN, Yamazaki is a bigger asshole and senpai girl is barely in the story at all.

>>279587135
Which one is closer to the original, manga or anime?

>>279586684 (OP)
Live action Misaki is better

>>279586684 (OP)
>This thread... These neets...

>>279587257
the manga isn't even remotely similar. The anime just the novel with three big filler arcs in the middle to pad out 26 episodes

>>279587325
Thanks. I'm going to avoid the manga then.

>>279587067
I will repeatedly punch you.

>>279586684 (OP)
Childhood is when manga Misaki makes you feel funny in the tummy.
Puberty is wanting anime Misaki to save you.
Adulthood is wanting to save anime Misaki.

>>279586684 (OP)
Manga is better

>>279587979
>whores are better
Ok cuck

>>279586684 (OP)

>>279588073
Cope. She has more personality in the manga.

>>279586968
>>279587325
>>279588073
She's more of a schizoid in the manga but I'm not sure why people are calling her a whore. Some of the stuff in the manga is funnier and more deranged. I like the anime and manga for different reasons.

anyday now, and a misaki will come and knocking on my door.

>>279588669
And then what? You ramble about Freud and then jump off a cliff?

>>279588669
Be honest: you'd stammer something incoherent and slam the door in her face and regret it forever.

>>279588624
Because she shows her tits to megumi's brother and was about to fuck him, but her bpd hits so she doesn't got through with it.

On a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being a full stereotype drama villainess and 10 being completely unthreatening 00's eroge moeblob cumbait.
Novel Misaki is a 4, manga is a 2, and Anime is a 6.

>>279588685
i thinking we can fix each other.
>>279588771
i fucking wish.

>>279586684 (OP)
God the manga was such a trainwreck.

>>279588968
>i thinking we can fix each other.
Starting reading up on Jung before she arrives. The original, not the modern meme interpretations.

>>279588968
Misaki's goal is to keep Sato a wreck so she can feel better about herself. When he gets his shit together without her she tries to an hero twice. You're not fixing that and she's not fixing whatever's wrong with you.

>>279589149
Fixing this is literally what wedding vows are for.
>for better, for worse
>for richer, for poorer
>in sickness and in health
>to love and to cherish
>till death do us part
In other words: to check each other so they don't wreck each other.

>>279589325
>for better or for worse
>except if you get better I will kill myself
Wedding vows don't fix your rock bottom self esteem. If you think marriage is just codependence then you might be a Misaki yourself

>>279587135
>>279587257
>>279587325
The original NHK is an actual novel, not LN. Didn't the anime also include manga original arcs?

>>279589325
>>279589583
I love all that codependency and "toxic" shit.

>>279589583
Marriage *is* just codependence by design.
That said, there is a loophole: tell your wife you're only marrying for the tax benefits and you were going to love her unconditionally either way. It shouldn't work in theory, but every happily married couple I know did it and they're still together.

i can fix her

>>279589854
Manga Misaki doesn't deserve fixing

I fucking hate women

>>279590002
Imagine looking at that trainwreck and thinking you're better off ignoring it than taming it.

>>279590327
Yes, she would exhaust me. Plus I draw the line at sluttiness.

Fuck, I just noticed that I'm more like Misaki than Satou.

>>279590972
Well there's no shortage of Satous out there, you just need to be a cute girl and you're set.

>>279590865
This is why you're single.

>>279590972
L O N D O N ?
Gender is no object

>>279587044
Misaki LN and anime are pretty similar iirc.
The anime added a TON of extra stuff though.
Also instead of Satou being schizo he was just a pretty impressively high level drug user with an absurd power level.
It's obvious the author himself showed his power level when it comes to drugs with the knowledge he dropped.
The drugs would have been legal at the time in Japan though.
It was one of the main parts of the story actually. Surprised it doesn't get mentioned too often. I think perhaps people relate to the 'schizo' Satou more than the 'expert drug user' Satou though I guess.
Not really surprised they didn't want to animate that in Japan lmao

>>279591133
The drug stuff wouldn't fly on TV back then so they just turned all his tripping into generic cartoony delusions. It doesn't get brought up much because I don't think most people have read the book to know about it.

>>279591041
But I want a Satou (female) and I'm not a cute girl

>>279591133
>The drugs would have been legal at the time in Japan though.
Shrooms? LSD? Salvia? The real tragedy is that Satou didn't have access to MDMA. Speaking from experience.
>I think perhaps people relate to the 'schizo' Satou more than the 'expert drug user'
Realistically, there are probably more "natural" schizos and socially isolated autists than viewers who had the opportunity to indulge in the same drugs as the author.

>>279586684 (OP)
Angel vs angel

>>279588798
>she doesn't got through with it.
Being a whore is... not having sex?

>>279591412
Become Misaki

>>279587353
The manga is still an entertaining read in it's own right, just different.

>>279591946
summary of my entire life

>>279592014

>>279591880
I remember him mentioning aMT as one. But what made him really crazy was that he said he was intentionally mixing MAOIs with some the research chemicals he was ordering and combining them to try to figure out euphoric combinations.
That is known to be pretty dangerous and he has some serious balls to be doing that.

>>279592184
Satou wasn't a virgin though.

>>279591909
Don't just ignore the first half of the sentence

>>279591946
I rather not. I don't want to ruin my image of Misaki by watching her acting like a slut.

>>279592404
Back in my day, whores had sex

>>279586684 (OP)
>manga
lmao

Book > Anime > Manga
Poser shitters get out

>>279592452
Back in my day, whores didn't undress in front of other men.
That probably sounds normal to the onlyfans generation.

>>279592549
Unfortunately it's almost impossible to find zoomer girls that don't whore themselves out online one way or another, nowadays.

>t. zoomer

>>279592549
>whores didn't undress in front of other men
lol fucking retard

>>279586684 (OP)
Senpai

>>279592765
>no arguments
Ok retard, enjoy your public whore like the cuckold you are.

>>279592761
It's not impossible, just go to India or something

>>279592761
There are a lot of shy girls that don't show their ass on tiktok for likes.

Misaki has done enough kindness. You can't expect her to actually LOVE a worthless hikkimori NEET. Give otakus an inch they'll take a mile.

>>279593387
I keep spreading for nice girls but they can never fit the whole mile.

>>279592850
Where the FUCK do I meet shy girls over 30

>>279592316
True. And I think it was a smart writing choice desu
Opening and having to resolve that can of worms would have taken away from the core part of the story imo.
I think too many readers/watchers would assume that having sex would somehow cure him, and then there'd have to be some stupid subplot to demonstrate that having sex isn't some magic spell that cures people's issues.

>>279594366
Asia

>>279592773
Senpai ended up being the most basic bitch woman in the series.

Youkoso..... hitori bochiiiiiii

>>279594366
I want to know too, I'm almost 30 too.

>>279592549
>whores didn't undress in front of other men.
What exactly do you think "whore" means?

>>279595135
A girl who shows her butt on ticktock. Did whores do more back in the day?

>>279592850
Somewhat true but they're all either taken or have some (significant) character flaw that prevents them from getting in relationships

And the vast, vast, majority of women in general are all borderline retarded and I don't know why

I can't imagine getting in a relationship with someone that has a middle-school-tier background that needs constant hand-outs from their male peers.

I go to a 70/30 uni so maybe the here are just worse than average, but even online I really feel there are almost no stable, intelligent, well-read women from this generation.

GenX and above seem fine though, if you're willing to hagmaxx.

>>279596942
>GenX and above seem fine though
Hell no

Misa Misa Misaki
Misaki!

>>279593387
At least from what I remember of the anime, she did literally nothing that ended up helping Satou at all. Satou pulled out of being a hikkikomori thanks to Kaoru and having to get a job. All you can really credit her with was getting Satou frustrated enough to go confront his neighbor in the first place, but Misaki was a net negative on his life.

>>279594562
>>279592773
she is me

>>279586684 (OP)
The manga character designs are so much better

>NHK?
Anime > manga > LN

>NHK?
Anime > LN > Shit >>>>> Manga

>>279592773
is she the only person who actually loved satou? she saw him at some of his lowest and most pathetic points and even when she was engaged she still wanted to have an affair with him

>>279597972
Misaki wanted satou to suffer so she can feel better about herself
Just like when I watch tiktok zoomers cry over low wage and debts

>>279586684 (OP)
Manga Misaki is far more in line with the story of Welcome to the NHK than her anime counterpart. Every major character- Satou, Yamazaki, Sempai(less so her since she is more of a side character, but still relevant) are damaged without any clear source or easy narrative to justify their shitty behaviors.
Satou was a loner who acted aloof, but was miserable and eventually collasped under the weight of people potentially judging him. He wasn't abused, his parents had money, there's really no big "oh no!" moment that caused it. This lack of drama which is shared by Yamazaki and sempai make them feel more real while also making it hard to pity them since a good deal of their problemfs are self inflicted.
Now what about anime Misaki you ask? Oh, she had her mother dramatically jump a cliff and she is horribly abused by (her uncle I think, don't remember). Sure, its sad, but it sticks out in the story so fucking badly. I'll take manga Misaki's flanderized played up character any day of the week because at least there was an attempt at trying to align her more with the cast.

>>279599572
The manga from chapters 1-12 are godly along with a few memorable scenes after, but it then fell off

>>279599752
LN Misaki is the best but manga Misaki is a slut so she's worse than anime Misaki.

>>279592773
She would have said yes if Satou asked for sex with her during the suicide arc.

>>279592773
Her husband is a cuck.
>goes on a suicide trip with another man
Too many red-flags. He also couldn't be sure if she fucked Satou during the trip or not.

>>279599626
No it was never about satou.
It's the same shit as someone having an affair before the wedding with a random person, because they are losing their freedom or whatever, but in this case she was pregnant.
She might have said that they should have dated back in highschool, but then it gets revealed she was dating some jock untill the end of her senior year so there was never a single point in time where that could happen
Satou was just a convenient person she could vent to and that just happened to include having some petty rebound sexbound after she broke up with the jock.
She's just a woman that doesn't know what she wants.

Mangasaki did nothing wrong

>>279586684 (OP)
Anime Misaki is a trauma survivor, she can be fixed with some healing.
Manga Misaki is BPDemon that shouldn't be engaged with.

>>279586738
Yes a Misaki would do that.

>>279603159
Manga Misaki is an angel who CAN save

>>279603602
>forgot the chapter where she gaslight sa10 into becoming his bf/slave
wow what an angel.

>>279604424
First of all, it's "gaslighted"
Second, if Satou had simply LISTENED, he would've been saved

>>279603159
I don't know why anyone would like that mangasaki harlot.

>>279594366
Me but my autism made me asexual.

I find it amazing that the manga tells a different story. What would be the point of both watching the anime and reading the manga if they were the same? The manga is much darker and more of an exploration of Misaki's psychology
She is a true bpdemon there, I think bpd is even namedropped

>>279594366
go outside

>>279606647
Post tits or gtfo.

>>279606730
Just letting you know any 30yo girl who hasn't done anything with a guy is choosing celibacy and you are parallel lines not to meet.

>>279606771
That's cool and all but posts tits or you are a tranny.

>>279606869
Then I would be the same as the girls on TikTok posting their ass for likes???
I posted this screen shot because this is the main theme author kun was getting across in his novel I believe, and making misaki some bpd demon succubus goes against the theme. I didn't like the anime version of her either. I think this just shows weebs aren't adults and don't want to be adults. They are just like Sato was and the industry encourages them to stay that way.

>>279606965
>Then I would be the same as the girls on TikTok posting their ass for likes???
You are a retarded normalfag that doesn't know shit about 4chan traditions or else your first thought wouldn't have been "tiktok". Now I am starting to doubt that you even are 30. You are most likely a tranny zoomer(which is quite common among your peers). If you want attention post tits or else gtfo.

>>279587353
The manga is the best version of the story. It's by far the funniest, but also the darkest. It's a very unhinged and entertaining read. But it still keeps you invested in the characters. I also thought it had the best ending.

>>279607049
And how old are you?

>>279607179
31, 32 in a month. Now how about you fulfill to basics since this is getting boring?

>>279607049
Tits or Gtfo isn't that ancient. There actually existed a time before it. There was a period of time where there were girls and boys openly talking to eachother on 4chan. Do you even remember why and when it came about and what it's purpose was? It wasn't to turn the whole site into a sausage fest, I'll tell you that. It's funny how the more that phase started being used liberally you started seeing more femboy porn and tranny porn and guys grooming eachother into prison gay situations.

>>279606965
You definitely type like an autistic 30 yo female.

>>279607286
Good, freemixing allows the normies to steal away the femanons

>>279607374
Anyway I'll answer because I have no life and I'm enjoying shitting this waifu bait thread up especially because it ASSANINATES one of my favorite Japanese novels. It was because girls (sometimes guys & catfishes) would make endless threads with image of cute girl.jpeg as the op and hit bump limit. Destroying all other threads or discourse. And then there was the bigger problem of them actually fishing for cash and gift cards. That's why it wasn't just tits or gtfo it was TITS TIMESTAMP THEN GTFO. It did not apply to every girl responding within an already established thread, especially when their sex was semi relevant.

>>279607374
>>279607358
Don't derail the misaki thread please.

>>279607473
>It did not apply to every girl responding within an already established thread, especially when their sex was semi relevant.
You don't seem to understand. You claimed you were a girl because you desire attention so prove it. Also no shit a timestamp is needed, only a retard would need to add that.

>>279606965
>just shows weebs aren't adults and don't want to be adults.
Then what are you doing on a weeb board? Go back to /v/.

>>279607481
Yes. Derail it. Derail it more. Misaki is an insignificant part of the novel. She was just there to show the kind of insanely sad women loser men run into in their life. This is what the book is really about. Male friendship. Drugs. And growing up just a little bit.

>>279607559
Everyone who ever speaks or posts on a public website wants attention idiot. They want someone to see what they wrote, read it, and respond. You want my attention currently. Here I am giving it to you.

>>279589704
>toxic
don't appropriate female foibles, you'll be better for it

>>279607637
But you want a different kind of attention, moron. One which can only be obtained after you've provided some proof. So don't make me repeat myself, post tits or you are a tranny.

>>279607722
You've been giving me attention. I've been giving you attention. We've been practically flirting this whole thread. Are you going to make the next step big man? Huh? Huh?
>>279607374
How do you acquire the femanons if you've told them to gtfo?

Isn't it odd how this same discussions take place everywhere on 4chan on whether women are whores, less intelligent, etc? You'll read long posts by retards spouting the same talking points, talking about their anecdotal experience, morality, etc.
Why can't you faggots realize engaging in these discussions is idiotic since there's no point or new argument to be made? Can't you have better hobbies?

The only remains of /a/'s board culture is sort of gatekeeping recommendations.

>>279607164
I watched the anime and I plan on reading the novel but there is no way I'm touching the manga. I was spoiled about Misaki acting like a slut so I'm not interesting about reading her story.

>>279608199
It's a therapeutic exercise to reinforce your beliefs because you don't go outside to have the world do it on it's own. I speak my piece, my peers agree, and I can stay comfortable knowing the world and my place in it.

I only check up on 4chan every once in awhile to reignite my spite and remind myself that mankind deserves this fate. We're stagnant. It's already dead. There's no more vitality or life left. Every man and woman on this site deserves to die without children.

>>279608419
>Every man and woman on this site deserves to die without children
Sorry anon, I don't plan to die without bringing a new single mother into this world.

I'm checking up on reddit then Twitter next. Then it's months of old web novels. You guys are such normies really. You think you know something. You've cracked the code. It's all codefying world views. Whoever or wherever you post. There's nothing left to discover or create.

>>279608575
>I'm checking up on reddit then Twitter next.
Stay there and don't come back.
>Then it's months of old web novels.
You might want to read actual real novels and if you don't care about anime and manga what are you even doing here?

rewatching the anime and by GOD is it rough
I guess it'd be a lot better if I were watching on a 20 inch CRT screen 10 feet away from me, though

You don't get it. I grew up on 4chan. I'm fucked. There's no where else to go. It wasn't this outright hostile. No not even /a/. I liked anime and manga. I'm watching apocalypse hotel this season. But most of what I see coming out is isekai. Japan has turned away from its own culture. It's all euro flavored fantasy. Generic western stylized. I tried to watch a delinquent anime and there was a straight up tranny in it that took 3 whole episodes.

>>279608836
meant to attach this
>>279608448
fucking based

>>279608910
Sovl.

>>279608910
It's product of its time.

>>279588968
>we can fix each other
But she's a million times worse than (you)sato

>>279608910
The soVl episode is pure kino though.

>>279607884
>Are you going to make the next step big man?
I've already done it. Post the proof and maybe we can go for a drink later.

>>279609674
ignore women
instead come drinking with me and the bros
we'll get totally wasted and do karaoke

still waiting for a misaki to come and knock on my door

>>279609726
Sure.

I hooked up with a misaki, just as much an aimless loser like me. we just made each other worse until we couldn't the sight of one another. i'm right back to square one. wishing for the real misaki to come knock on my door (it'll work out this time..)

>>279610872
that's because you both didn't signed a contract.

>>279610820
You'd tell her to gtfo roastie

>>279610820
She is so damn cute in this image. It almost gave
me a fisheye lens fetish.

>>279586684 (OP)
RYOHGI!
SHIKI!

>>279610820
I just finished my rewatch of nhk seconds ago
and god it's a masterpiece
feeling like crying
I need my misaki.
I need my hostage.

manga felt genuinely messed up, which is a good thing

>>279611051
i'm fine with it. its been nearly a year now (this happened last summer) and it took the life out of me. never going back to 3D after that.

bros...

>>279611361
She has been standing there for 5 hours.

>>279611150
Tomoe deserved happines

>>279586684 (OP)
Which would kiss Satou first?

>>279586684 (OP)
They should make out with each other

>>279606700
I still think a double suicide is pretty romantic and I don't see how it isn't

>>279606700
I for one found manga Misaki more entertaining, just due to her being so darkly hilarious.
However, my heart will forever belong to anime Misaki.

>>279611361
damn i believe that dress is a reference to christina riccis outfit buffalo 66, never noticed, and have watched and read welcome to nhk several times. And im not just imagining it, i mean satou has a poster of that movie in his room, so this reverence has to be intentional

it was disheartening to see that the author didn't learn a thing from his own work and remained a hikkimori for many years after.

im the same age as Satou and 22 is by far the worst age to be in. 18-21 is still pretty much extended adolescence but 22 is when you jump headfirst into adulthood and it is a harrowing, miserable, bleak experience

>>279610872
Something similar happened to me, we even talked about double suicide. I enjoyed being with her because she wasn't used goods and I felt she was the only person pathetic enough to like me, and I'm pretty sure she thought the exact same thing about me. Now I wish I had never met her.

>>279612649
>im the same age as Satou and 22 is by far the worst age to be in.
Nigga stfu. I'm 32. You have no idea how much worse it can get.

>>279612649
I have friend from HS that's currently a neet
he was a year older than me, so 22 as of this summer
how do you break out of it? we've tried everything, ever since he graduated and no longer has to see us face-to-face he just holes up in his room gaymin all day

how do i find misakis for hire

>>279611341
based
at least you learned from the experience

>>279612994
if you've actually read nhk then you already know what the answer is

>>279612649
>22 is by far the worst age
Kekkk
You don't a thing yet, kid

>waaaaaaaaaaah life is so hard!
Shut up and post Misaki. This is a Misaki thread

>>279608283
Who gives a fuck, bro. It's just a character. And a pretty fun one to read. She's not your gf.

>>279608910
child

>>279588624
>Some of the stuff in the manga is funnier and more deranged.
Satou making an elaborate setup where he has a bag full of drugs attached and taped to his nose with straws in his nostrils, some obscene porn and an onahole with premium lube just for him to get caught mid session butt naked and fist pumping is one of the funniest things I have seen in my life lmao.I think Novel>Anime>Manga, but that manga has some moments kek.

>>279613261
>She's not your gf
She is

Jokes aside, if a character in a romance/drama heavy story acts like a slut then I don't give a fuck about what happens to her or ehat she has to say, which kill the point of reading a character driven manga. It's pretty simple to understand.

>>279608283
>>279613517
>he's still mad he got filtered
Kek

>>279613730
>filtered by cuckshit
That's a good thing

>>279613815
>cuckshit is when a girl doesn't have sex

>>279586684 (OP)
Who wrote the manga? I was surprised by how much new content there is in it compared to the novel. Did the novel writer come up with it?

>>279610872
Satou-san...

>>279613896
She show her tits to the dude and was about to do it. That's just the average NTR bait. If you're okay with cuckshit good for you, you have another manga to enjoy. For me, she's just trash.

>>279614164
In the manga she's even a bigger slut than that. She has SEX with Satou near the end.

>>279612649
>22 is by far the worst age to be in.

>>279614164
>and was about to do it
She's not a shallow enough person to be understood by someone like you

>>279613815
She doesn't cuck anyone, but she also wasn't Satou gf to begin with. And Satou is a huge lolicon in the manga and novel and is in love with the senpai for most of the story.

>>279614404
I don't care about being able to understand sluts or not

>people actually like bpd mangasaki
Kek /a/ really is full of pathetic faggots

>>279614420
Cucked enough for me not to read it.

>>279614691
>sluts are girls who don't have sex

Misaki is a cute angel!

>>279614789
>desperate cuckbro thinks showing her tits isn't slutty

>>279612994
>how do you break out of it?
Dad coming into your room one day to say that if you don't find a job you're out of the fucking house.
NEETdom is the fault of parents who didn't give enough of a shit to push you or have actual consequences for failure or not shaping up. No wonder the phenomenon originated in Japan, where stifling politeness and non-confrontationalism is practically law.

>>279614720
Incels are desperate for pussy so they think a crazy whore is going to fix their lives.

>>279614870
And how does the rest of that chapter go?

>>279615043
Doesn't matter, it can't change the past

>>279615157
>stumbling over himself to disparage Misaki
Almost! It's cute how hard Misaki haters try to defame my angel. Maybe one day you'll be able to. Ganbare!

>>279615203
I don't hate her, I like anime Misaki

Manga Misaki feels like a real person, and she's interesting because she's allowed to be fucked up in a way female characters usually aren't.

Anime Misaki feels like an overly idealistic wish fulfillment fantasy, "What if a girl actually came to draw you out of your shell but then after she pulled all the weight in getting familiar with you it turned out SHE was the timid broken one and you got to be the savior for her????"

>>279615255
You don't love Misaki. You love the idea of loving Misaki because you think it makes you fit in

>>279614934
I think it's actually the opposite. People who prefer the manga do so because it's much less of a wish fulfillment story and the "romance" feels more realistic. It's the only version of the story where it makes sense that Satou is kind of annoyed by Misaki. They are two fucked up people, and by the end, if there's any love between them is not because they are saving each other, but because they can empathize with their situation, and that motivates them to get better on their own, so one day they can try being together again.

>>279615314
I never said i loved her, are you dumb?

Misa Misa Misaki
Misaki
Misa Misa Misaki
Misa Misaki!

>>279615280
>Manga Misaki feels like a real person,
It's interesting, because, compared to the anime, in the manga everything is dialed to 11 and is overall more of a black comedy, but at the same time the characters feel much more three dimensional, so the serious moments feel much more real.

>>279615324
The facts the people want a relationship so fucked up is what make them feel really desperate for any type of affect.

>>279615280
>she's allowed to be fucked up in a way female characters usually aren't
A lot of female characters are sluts

>>279615533
She isn't a slut. She's just insane.

>>279615280
>"What if a girl actually came to draw you out of your shell but then after she pulled all the weight in getting familiar with you it turned out SHE was the timid broken one and you got to be the savior for her????"

This is it exactly. In the real world, you could either meet an extroverted girl who draws you out and saves you the social anxiety of getting close to her, OR you meet the introverted broken girl who needs you, but YOU have to do the work to draw her out. And even then, both of those are extreme longshots for the average /a/ user to encounter. Having a girl who takes the best parts of both so that you don't have to take any agency at all yourself, just feels overblown.

>>279615280
>and she's interesting because she's allowed to be fucked up in a way female characters usually aren't.
Lol. There are plenty of female manga characters that fit the same character trope.

>>279615280
Mangasaki is more of a dumb cliche than the alternatives. She's comically bpd

MANGASAKI IS AN ANGEL AND A GOOD GIRL

>>279615694
cute nose. Anime misaki does not have a nose. Check mate

>>279615718
It's probably visible in some profile shots in the anime but I am too lazy to search and not that interested in this debate since I like all 3 Misakis.

>>279612418
Shut up Esemori

>>279615280
Honestly, from the latter half to the end of the story, I found Mangasaki (and all the other characters, really) to be so incredibly stupid, they became annoying, like half of the shit they did or that happened to them was for no reason other than misery porn, like Mangasaki quitting school again because "no one gave any attention to her".

Waifu wars have reach the point where people discuss which incarnation of the same waifu is the best, which is stupid because everyone with a brain knows Anisaki es much better.

novel misaki is the cutest actually

>>279615718
>cute nose
I want to kiss it like crazy!

>>279599752
>Sempai
Typo, or did the 20+ y/o fansubs leak into your subconscious?
No venom or shade in this comment meant towards you personally. It's just an old meme/argument basically, and I'm curious.

>>279612649
You know that feeling when you look back at the last grade you were in, and in retrospect everything seems so much easier?
And how that applies to larger time scales as well(Jr. High < HS < Uni < work etc)?
That effect NEVER stops, and actually just magnifies as time goes on.
You should print your comment out and revisit it once a year or two.

>>279606965
fyi the context is like 20+ y/o memes of
>there are no girls on internet
and the evergreen response has always been 'tits or gtfo'
There's a bit more depth to it than that, but it should be easily searchable if you're curious
I hope you're actually literally an asexual autist, or I wouldn't have bothered since you'd have no excuse.

>>279618850
"Sempai" is how it's romanised in traditional Hepburn.

misaki needs a gf

>>279618850
I always forget her name so I just call her that since I bet everyone knows who I'm talking about already.
I really think the difference between people who like anime versus people who like manga misaki is this
>anime misaki
Polished, consistent quality, great va, abused(this is a bonus for people who want to "save" her), somewhat sanitized mental illness (safe mental illness).
They aren't bothered by her melodramatic backstory because even if the concept is played out, she's executed very well
>manga misaki
more inline with the cast thematically, darker aspects of BPD, has more of a presence throughout the story
And then overlook all the times the story did her dirty (leaving Satou to starve for 3 days, stripping for the reformed neet, etc)

>>279586684 (OP)
That moment on the left
>Because everything I said until now...That was all a lie!!
Is quite literally the highpoint of the entire manga. It takes the backstory of anime misaki and uses it to doop the audience. It's such a damn slap-shame the rest of the manga doesn't keep the same level of quality.

>>279620229
>doop
baka

>then overlook all the times the story did her dirty
Mangasaki did nothing wrong. Yeah, she has issues. But idk they somehow make me love her more. I feel like I really relate to Misaki, I can understand her.

>>279619796
Yeah, I haven't seen someone trying to carry that flag in a long time.
I'm not insulting or arguing. People can try use whatever romanization system they want. Language and standards evolve and are fluid after all.
Just brings back memories and is rare to see now. People used to fight over it a lot.
For all I know, back then between the two languages it could been phonetically more accurate rather than a mistake.

>>279620441
*back then being 150 years ago or whatever when we wouldn't have recordings to even know...not 20 y/o anime just to be clear

>>279620269
My spelling has always been atrocious. I think the brain damage is finally kicking in.
>>279620422
mangasaki did everything wrong, but I respect the author more for trying

>>279588669
>>279588968
Anon. Come on, you can't really miss the obvious point of Satou's story this badly.

At its heart, Welcome to the NHK is a brutal exploration of hikikomori life, mental illness, and the struggle to break free from self-imposed isolation. Satou, a 22-year-old shut-in, starts the story trapped in a cycle of paranoia, shame, and escapism, blaming external “conspiracies” like the NHK (Nihon Hikikomori Kyokai, in his delusions) for his stagnation. His arc, across both the anime and manga, is about confronting his own agency—or lack thereof—and taking halting, imperfect steps toward change.

The key to Satou’s growth is that it’s self-initiated, even if spurred by external pressures. The story doesn’t glorify passivity or external saviors; it shows that real change comes from within, often through pain and necessity. Satou’s moments of progress—whether it’s attempting to create a galge with Yamazaki, confronting his internet addiction, or eventually seeking a job—stem from his own decisions, however reluctant or flawed. The narrative repeatedly hammers home that no one else can “fix” him, and leaning on others (like Misaki) often perpetuates his problems rather than solving them.

Wishing for a “Misaki” to knock on your door betrays a fantasy of passive salvation, where a cute, caring girl magically pulls ya out of your rut. This not only misreads Satou’s arc but also ignores the story’s critique of such fantasies as dangerous illusions.

>>279620422
>I feel like I really relate to Misaki
That's not a good thing, go to therapy.

>>279620566
> mangasaki did everything wrong
She tried her best! She’s a good girl!
>>279620645
>That's not a good thing
Yeah, I know. I’m starting to think I have some kind of actual mental illness which is exacerbated by (or maybe is the source of) my hermit tendencies
>go to therapy
That’s a lot of work. Unless I’m actively having an episode, I’m mostly fine. So I always forget to set it up

>>279620743
I'm in therapy actually and I think is a meme. I'll give my therapist another month but it's not really helping a lot.

>>279620802
Whoops, I always mix up therapists and psychiatrists. I don’t think I need therapy because I talk about it enough online. I meant to imply that I might need meds but it’s not bad enough that I bother setting it up

>Manga Misaki!
>No, anime Misaki!
>Heh, plebs, it's LN Misaki!
You're all wrong. It's Chan Misaki.
The best version of Misaki is her distilled essence that gets posted here, a blend of them all.

>>279620441
>hey did you know this language has no "m", only "n" and then mu, mi, ma, etc?
>cool. Let's use m then
Was always stupid

>>279620637
Ohoh, but anon you misunderstand their posting thinking they misunderstand the show!
>I wish Misaki knocked on my door
= I wish I had the motivation to change

>>279608199
Ronery threads are older than you are.

>>279620976
Wisdom.

>>279622368
surprisingly enough this isn't much of a ronery thread
it's mostly actual discussion of nhk

>>279622779
Fair point!

Why does she only wear miniskirts regardless of season? Even the manga never explains this

>>279620068
>leaving Satou to starve for 3 days, stripping for the reformed neet
Being evil is fine, stripping for other men isn't. To the trash it goes.

Misaki’s only crime is being TOO CUTE

>>279608199
I'm new to 4chan, please recommend me some loli x Adult male mangas and animes.

>>279615623
I have severe BPD and I'm the same as Misaki, I don't see her as a stereotype. In fact reading the manga of NHK made me seek the right therapy.

>>279624859
kawasoi na imouto-chan

>>279617730
>NHK made by ABe

>>279625009
Want to be my e-gf?

>>279625333
I'm looking for something serious irl rather than fooling around online and I already have something going on. You're still cute Anon thank you for giving BPDemons a chance.

>>279625144
>kawasoi na imouto-chan
Oh, I've seen a few pics about this one, Danke schon.

>>279625368
>I'm looking for something serious irl
Ok, so where do you live?

>>279612649
>22 is by far the worst age to be in

>>279625471
I have a ring on my finger... I feel bad disappointing you though. I also meant that I'm a walking red flag not necessarily good to be with. I generally only date others like me due to that. They have my same kind of love that would be toxic to others.

>>279622849
no pantsu fetish

>>279625471
Mangasaki fags are so needy they go for men

>>279625517
>I have a ring on my finger...
Well, congratulations,.but if you ever feel like cheating or having a new favorite person, you can always make a misaki thread and I may snatch you then if I see it.

>>279625602
Thank you Anon I like you

>>279625598
*Mangasaki Anons are cute

>I generally only date others like me due to that. They have my same kind of love that would be toxic to others
No fair, I’m also like that and want someone for the same reasons! Where do I find a BPD angel of my own?

>>279589854
What would happen if you tease her for how desperate she is?

>>279625829
I haven't gone there in ages, but /r9k/ was a cheat code to find BPDemons if you have any game. Found a bunch of girls to sext there and even a gf with whom I was with for three years.

>>279625829
There's a bunch online but you have to get lucky. Most are okay with meeting irl if you want something serious. If they actually have BPD and are not faking it or misdiagnosed that is. For us it's easy to tell, especially by noticing the symptoms that are not that present in the common stereotypes. And some things are hard to hide. At least I can tell. I don't think there's any spicy BPD discord or something or at least I don't know about it, just keep an eye out online even here, you just got unlucky with me.

>>279625368
>>279625009
Is it true what they say about BPDwomen?

>>279625908
>>279625896
/lgbt/ also has them often if you have that kind of taste.

Why are you guys do desperate to ruin your life?

>>279625923
What do you mean? In general the stereotype is pretty true except the part that talks about us BPDemons being rather shallow due to going from love to hate or healing easily and so on. BPD people have a lot of sense of self issues and one of those issues is that we can't really empathize with different versions of ourselves. If you like me and then I piss you off you'd feel some sort of continuity, if I like you and you piss me off, I might not be able to understand a different me that liked you instead of being angry. I don't know if I'm explaining this in an easy to understand way. Breaking up and whatnot can devastate us and turn us genuinely suicidal, in general we feel emotions stronger than most people, it's just that if at some point there's some kind of rebound, or a healing process starts, or sadness turns into some sort of resentment, we'll feel like a different individual. But it's like some deep sense of self issue it's not like we're shallow. These can also be managed with therapy though it's not perfect so if you date one of us you'll have to put up with some pretty bad lashing out sometimes. But not all of us would instantly go to cheating or something like that.

>>279613517
Virgin women don't exist.

>>279626046
Neither does Misaki

>>279625896
Am I really going to become a regular on /r9k/ with the intention of finding love?
>>279626003
I have a hard time explaining it. Something about the nature of women who are genuinely unstable is really enticing to me. It’s not just erotic, but I feel like a part of me “gets it”. The intense emotions, flip flopping from one to the other, the paranoia and the desperate fixation on one person. Something about it screams out to me. I think I need to be needed. I want to be the most important person for someone who needs me as desperately as I need to be needed by them. Usually, people say not to date BPD girls because they freak out when you talk to other people, but I already have no friends. All I want is to spend 24/7 with the same girl, and for her to want that of me. This isn’t a proper explanation, but it’s the best I can do right now

>>279626016
>one of those issues is that we can't really empathize with different versions of ourselves. If you like me and then I piss you off you'd feel some sort of continuity, if I like you and you piss me off, I might not be able to understand a different me that liked you instead of being angry.
hmm I don't get it. I was talking about sex...
> But not all of us would instantly go to cheating or something like that.
Oh well, good to know that.

>>279626081
Exactly.

>>279626092
Haha my bad. In my experience BPD dating we're either asexual or hypersexual. One of the two extremes.
>>279626085
>but I already have no friends
That's what my fiance is like. We generally are afraid of that some of us more overt than others, the paranoia comes with the fact that we have a deeply rooted fear of abandonment so we want to control and eliminate all perceived threats to it. I personally hate myself for it, I'm self aware enough to realize I'm actually a toxic partner, but that is solved by loving other people that see it as true love. That way no one gets hurt and everyone is happy. Also I've met some BPD girls that are the opposite and push people away to prevent being abandoned there's like a quiet BPD type that internalizes all this stuff and becomes self destructive.

>>279626085
Yeah I get it, a needy girl that is obsessed with you and doesn't have anything else sounds great. That's basically the premise of every anime girl. The issue is that in real life they go from love to hate very easily, so they are more likely to cheat, be violent, take revenge or fuck your life one way or another.

>>279626140
Fuck me, I need someone exactly like that. The only people I talk to are my family, and none of the girls are within 5 years of me. I really would have no problem dedicating my whole life to that other person.
>>279626182
>a needy girl that is obsessed with you and doesn't have anything else
That’s not quite it. There’s a level of “desperate totality” that I’m struggling to convey. It’s not just that she is obsessed with me, I think it’s the possessiveness and intensity. I do also think I have some level of disorder (though probably not BPD)
As for the real life stuff, I’m not exactly Chad Thundercock. I can be super petty and spiteful and have my emotions rapidly change, especially if I’m refusing to eat. I just think like attracts like

>>279626182
>The issue is that in real life they go from love to hate very easily, so they are more likely to cheat, be violent, take revenge or fuck your life one way or another.
I don't have that much experience I've only been with 3-4 but in general what works for me is still offering love through the hateful mood swing, it mellows out really easily. Especially framed like acceptance. I have BPD too though which means I get hurt by it much less because I empathize. In general get good communication with a BPD girl/boy, the cheat code is making them able to communicate their needs more easily rather than have to push you or test you in any implicit way. And if you have the kind of personality to not judge irl yandere shit you're going to do well. In general the only bad experiences are if they're not far in their own journey of self awareness. You can help them along though.
On the topic of cheating if you offer enough attention it won't happen in 99% of the cases but it is true we're more prone to cheating than normal because of our lack of emotional regulation and recklessness which involves being horny. However the love stuff is way stronger and overrides it (unless you get unlucky with a worse person) so if you really embrace it with them you'll do okay. In general from what I've observed it happens mostly when dating normal people and having to repress all the BPD shit to not ruin the relationship. That adds a sense of dishonesty and dissatisfaction that justifies cheating. That's kinda the case of manga Misaki if you think about it.

>>279626182
Yeah, people can not comprehend what the consequences of their desire can manifest as.
It's like they're saying they're willing to trade a small short term ego boost that will wear off and become meaningless, for some potentially very destructive and harmful futures.
Like the girl in this thread is not a good example of the average.
She sounds 100x times more reasonable and self aware compared to the average cluster B girl. Most are simply not like this at all.
So anons...don't think that her or Misaki are typical at all.

>>279626140
>One of the two extremes.
Which one are you?

>>279626378
The latter though I get off to affection/being wanted not necessarily sex itself

>>279626339
Kys

>>279626398
My current gf isn't BPD, but she's hypersexual and extremely submissive, but in a proactive way. She doesn't lie there waiting to be used. She gets pleasure from pleasing me. It's pretty great. I'd highly recommend it.

Misaki is an angel that will save me.
I love my angel, my saviour, Misaki.

>>279626453
Nice laarp

>>279626462
We all love Misaki! She’s our angel!

>>279626339
I guess I have more to add, there's two big types of hateful mood swing / crisis you might have to confront. The first one is that one of the common defenses we have against abandonment (that doesn't mean true abandonment it can be us being retardedly paranoid) is trying to abandon the person first. That softens the blow a little, otherwise we get devastated. That's why there's this stigma of this "manipulative" push and pull like we're trying to feel wanted by faking breaking up. In general it's not manipulation at all just us freaking out at some paranoia and being stupid trying to protect ourselves. It's not conscious but deep inside we know that we're either going to be chased after by the person or if our fears are real, we'd have softened the blow. This is fixed by communication like I said so we can say "hey, I feel bad about X" and get reassurance for that fear.
The second kind of mood swing is the one that happens out of really petty stuff almost out of nowhere, in general what happens is that we repress ourselves in an effort to emotionally regulate and then some hidden breakdown that we had held in comes out at any possible excuse. This is also not conscious to us it feels like "we become more unstable" if we have some sort of deeper bad happening. Like if something hurts me (university stress, etc) I'll be more prone to it that day. This is really only fixed with therapy and self awareness and you need to be patient with it and show acceptance there's not that much more to do.

>>279626339
I'm not wasting my time with a girl who feels like cheating because I didn't give her enough attention for 5 minutes, according to her own warped perception. People here idealize that shit because they project their anime fantasies. I have a bpd in my family and she's an absolute trainwreck who goes from crying of happiness to screaming like a wild animal because you forgot to read her mind so she created a whole conspiracy theory. And of course she's a liar and a serial cheater. I would cut my balls before dating someone like that.

Misaki, my angel.
>Misaki, my saviour
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>Misaki, my saviour
Misaki, my angel.
>Misaki, my saviour
Misaki, my angel.
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Misaki, my angel.
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Misaki, my angel.
>Misaki, my saviour
Misaki, my angel.
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Misaki, my angel.
>Misaki, my saviour

>>279626575
>communication
>therapy
What about a VERY thorough dicking?

>>279626610
I really don't like you but it's kinda understandable that you feel that way, however it's not that we are shallow and fickle if you have good communication that sort of stuff can be consistently averted unless they're not just mentally ill but also a true bad person, and there's bad people of all kinds not just BPD. Normal people lie and cheat all the same. It's people like you not understanding + how little studied BPD is resulting in bad quality therapy or none at all that causes someone like the one in your family. If someone helps her vocalize her fears and needs to get reassurance she would get better. At least that's my experience. BPD actually sucks to have and when BPD girls don't understand themselves and have to constantly be dishonest to not be hated by normies cheating is more understandable. And if you hate that we generally feel like that, dating a menhera irl is not just some cute kinky shit there's some darker stuff you need to be okay with and that involves our potential for destructiveness and less cute things. But we're not some cheating time bomb its just some maladaption to how dishonest we have to be to survive + all the reckless shit.

>>279622849
Given her looks, it'd be a sin not to.

>>279626515
Angel! Misaki haters are blind and deaf!

>>279626003
Can't ruin what we don't have!

>>279626763
Nice blog post, Up voted.

>>279626872
Fuck you Anon. But yeah I said pretty much all I wanted to say I liked the attention and maybe i got to help some fellow BPDemons out there get better relationships with Anons (or maybe it filters some Anons wanting us)

>>279626763
Mucho texto

How did your previous relationships ended?

>>279626823
>>279626851
Cute girl summer! My angel is ROCKING that skirt!

Newfags take notes, this is why we have "tits or gtfo" as a rule.

Whether it's a >real woman or a fag pretending to be one all they do is derail threads soaking up attention from simps like this.

>>279626908
Good actually. I'm still in contact with one of them and in good terms. BPDemons understand each other so we managed to get non destructive breakups. Helps that it was like growing distance and not a crisis. One really fucked me up though. I cried for like an entire day.

>>279626763
>how dishonest we have to be to survive
Do you understand how awful that sounds?

>>279626960
I never pretended did you see the picture I posted at the start? I'm obviously girl (male) Also how is it derailed? BPD was a huge topic, the manga even mentions it directly. I'm done though unless someone asks me a question
>>279626971
Yes the disorder sucks

>>279627009
This is what the "gtfo" part is for. You need to shut the fuck up and leave now.

>>279626960
What do you mean? This is exactly the awful thread something like NHK deserves.

>>279627009
That answer doesn't make you look any better, either.

Misaki doesn't have BPD, stop talking about it.
She's perfect.

I want a perfect angel misaki gf that knocks on my door and give me the perfect gf experience so that I can say with confidence that relationships aren't for me and can finally live in solitude without feeling I'm missing out on something.
Ignore the fact that even Yugami highly likely got himself a wife at the end.

>>279626960
>bpd being an attention whore
I told you. Let's pretend we are surprised.
>>279627077
You say that while avatarfagging as a tranny

>>279627077
I can hear welcome to hell just from reading it, its true

>>279586684 (OP)
I just started reading the manga. Chapter 2 was surreal, wtf

>>279627112
That is an extremely cute Misaki.

>>279627118
>so that I can say with confidence that relationships aren't for me and can finally live in solitude without feeling I'm missing out on something.
This is actually the reality for a lot of people.

>>279627188
Be ready to slut misaki stripping in front of another man. Bpd simps would defend that.

I didn't know misaki was BPD and by reading this thread those women must be difficult to deal with. I still wonder if the sex is worthy.

>>279627443
>slut who doesn’t have sex
Jealousy is an ugly look, girl

>>279627112
Misaki is my perfect perfect angel

>>279627443
Your delusion will never be real.

>>279627496
She doesn't have BPD. Don't listen to those deluded haters.

>>279627667
>>279627730
Uh-oh!!! Pretty girl alert!

>>279627667
You missed that part were she strips? Pay more attention

>>279627768
You missed that part where she says you’re too shallow to understand her? Pay more attention

post more misaki sex

>>279627813
Pathetic excuses for a bpd simps

>>279627443
Anons defending that is beyond me. But they were losing their mind over a bpd gay boy a moment ago so they're really desperate and lonely.

>>279627871
I like girls too and I was just trying to help anons who like BPD girls have better relationships we really need better relationships and I look after my fellow BPDemons

>>279627854
>>279627871
>no refutation
Misaki slanderers BTFO!!!
Pretty girl Misaki wins again!
Yay!!

>>279627871
>>279627909
Schizo fantasy. Misaki is angel, angels can't have BPD.

Grape

>>279615280
>Anime Misaki feels like an overly idealistic wish fulfillment fantasy, "What if a girl actually came to draw you out of your shell but then after she pulled all the weight in getting familiar with you it turned out SHE was the timid broken one and you got to be the savior for her????"

Now that you mention it. Yeah, isn't that a bit too convenient?

Teenmomsaki

>>279628277
she reminds of my little sis

>>279627336
Some can, but realistically most are festering amounts of cope. You have to try first.

>>279627871
Bdp are the kind of girls no man wants to end up with but somehow people with less life experience than average think they can make it work.

>>279615718
>cute nose
The cutest!

>>279628373
I'm sorry, your little sis is going to be destroyed

>>279628670
why?

>>279628713
too many males eager to penetrate and breed her

>>279628760
Eroi!

don't fall for the misaki meme. this is all a ploy design by the NHK to bait you into working in a 9-5 job.
you're living in a fantasy. there is no easter bunny, there is no tooth fairy, and there is no misaki.

>>279628760
She's all I have left.

>>279628923
If there's no misaki then how come I am still waiting for her?

>>279629032
it means the psyop is working as intended.

>>279628923
Misakiphobia will NOT be tolerated! Misaki is an angel who SAVES!

>>279629446
i love misaki as much as the anon's on this thread but maybe, i don't know. but could it be that this delusion of having a misaki gf/wife is part of a larger conspiracy of some secret society, organization or government. just saying.

>>279628760
She's a literal child though

>>279628255
is this real

>>279608836
>>279608910
I remember them acknowledging this in an episode by having one of the bg characters say "hey last week's pururin was animated like shit" lol

>>279629834
Pururin always had good animation, especially the Pururin Naisho ovas.

im nearly mid 20's and i haven't worked a full day in my life thus far. got a menial job at a small convienence store and quit after 2 hours and never tried to get any work since. i don't want a misaki to motivate me to slave, just want a cute girl who's soft skin i can nimble on.

>>279629441
debunked, you can't wait for someone who's not real

>>279629446
BPD hands typed this post

>>279630067
If you say you don't need Misaki, you absolutely do.

>>279630067
I was like you at your age. You just need personal motivation and goals, not an outsider. You need to love yourself at least a bit.

>>279630149
I am NOT BPD! I am a completely normal and sane person who loves Misaki!

>>279630149
Defamation against Misaki is a crime.

>>279630368
Behead those who insult Misaki

>>279614870
Her not going through with it doesn't change she was willing and this is more retarded ntr bait
Manga sucks

>>279630583
>he's still desperately trying to slander Misaki
She's 2deep4u, you'll never get it

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I FUCKING LOVE MISAKI SO MUCH I CAN'T BEAR IT

Misaki Misaki
Misaki Misaki

ok. now what.

Do I have BPD? I'm not a woman but I've had severe attachment issues throughout my entire life. I'm plagued by a constant fear of negative judgement which causes me to refrain from talking or interacting with most people. On the rare occasion I do make a friend I form a very unhealthy level of attachment towards them. If they happen to break my trust in some way I tend to lash out at them and go on horrible tirades insulting and belittling them, and on one occasion I went out of my way to essentially try to ruin one of their lives out of spite. It's like a switch flips in my brain that causes me to go from complete love and devotion to abject hatred and vindictiveness. I've always had major issues with codependency and fear of rejection, to the point where I'm now basically avoiding reaching out to people because I'm scared it's just going to lead to me hurting others or myself again. It's like I'm fundamentally unable to form a genuine connection with another person. For the record, I also have OCD, autism, ADHD, and depression.

>>279631910
This is not BPD thread, go away.

>>279612649
oh my god why are children on this board

>>279631650
you kys, tranny

>>279632077
It's 2025 grandpa, people who were born when NHK was airing are already legal adults.

>>279632097
not by age, by mental
holy fuck brother go outside

>>279591946
Is that an uncensored pussy? MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

>>279630583
Don't try to reason why slutchasers. Apparently that make her really deep or something.

>>279629680
No she isn't

>>279631910
I'm the BPDemon from before, do you feel emptiness and have some sort of identity issues? By emptiness i mean a sort of spiritual boredom, you're no one, a hollow shell, etc. And do you ever feel a sort of dissociative thing when you're stressed? Like you are looking at yourself from far away, or like the world is not real. When you think about the past and future, do you feel like the memories are in first person and like the future doesn't exist?
I can't diagnose you online but if some of these are true definitely bring it up to your therapist. Attachment issues and emotional regulation issues can come from a variety of sources like trauma (C-PTSD). But you could very well have BPD too. I might get banned for this post so appreciate it Anon.
>>279630583
I don't think that it's meant as NTR bait. The story acts like the relationship with Misaki is toxic in some ways and the anime doesn't deliver on that at all despite seemingly having the same message. It just sounds like it'd be awesome if a girl like Misaki saved you. Her flaws are not important at all. This stuff in the manga shows a darker side to Misaki and kinda justifies why the relationship might be messed up.

>>279628982
get ready to share her, other dudes are going to have her too

Overrated normalfag shit. No true robot takes this failed normie dreck seriously.

>>279612418
Your book is trash Esemori, go speak to Yuko if you want to die, pussy bitch.

>>279635058
She's mine.

>>279635413
That's good and well but you know at some point she's going to have physical intimacy with other men. Don't be mad at me I've got no stake on this

>>279634708
Kys

>>279635675
Kiss your senpai?

>>279636239
kiss your sister

>>279625270
NHK anime would have been far FAR better and more iconic in otaku culture and overall anime history if it had the y2k denpa Abe art direction.
In the last few years both Lain and Renmei got a huge popularity revival (mostly because of subhuman zoomers yet) but it's mostly a testimony of how effective these shows aesthetics were.
NHK looks like every other 2000s show that wasn't made by either Shaft, manglobe or bones.

>>279634708
I meant "arent in first person"
>>279636239
Senpai is a very underrated character, I really loved her. I'm surprised she doesn't get more love. She had amazing chemistry with Sato.

>>279636713
>NHK anime would have been far FAR better and more iconic in otaku culture and overall anime history if it had the y2k denpa Abe art direction.
I disagree . I don't want everything to look like Abe's stuff and I don't think everything fits it.
>NHK looks like every other 2000s show that wasn't made by either Shaft, manglobe or bones.
And? It looks soulful. Just how I like the generic very geometric art style that most anime in the 70s had , I also like the one from the 00s as well. Also there are other studios that distinctive art direction in the 00s like Gonzo(for the worse), Sunrise, Gainax, even Toei made some interesting looking stuff like Mononoke, Tori no Uta, Fantascope.

>>279636713
>more iconic in otaku culture
Welcome to NHK is way more well know than HR. It's more iconic and it had a bigger influence on the otaku culture than haibane with all the image macros/jokes that it has generated. I don't know what you are smoking.

>>279634708
>do you feel emptiness and have some sort of identity issues?
I do feel empty, yes. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by identity issues, but I very much feel like I'm constantly fighting between being the type of person I want to be and the type of person I am when I'm at my lowest. It's like I know deep down what behaviour is right and what is wrong, and I want to act in the right ways and be a good person, but I feel an almost natural inclination to do things and think in ways that are self-destructive or otherwise hurt other people. It's like there are two separate versions of me desperately fighting for control, but they both feel like "myself" somehow.
>And do you ever feel a sort of dissociative thing when you're stressed?
No
>When you think about the past and future, do you feel like the memories are in first person and like the future doesn't exist?
No
>Attachment issues and emotional regulation issues can come from a variety of sources like trauma (C-PTSD)
This feels more likely I think. I'm not diagnosed with PTSD but I've certainly experienced a lot of trauma, especially social trauma, and it's something that affects my behaviour and mental state in every way imaginable.
>I might get banned for this post so appreciate it Anon.
I appreciate it. Thank you.

>>279636969
>I don't want everything to look like Abe's stuff and I don't think everything fits i
Brother there are 4 shows with Abe's art direction, the 2 I've cited, Niea and texhnolyze. When the fuck is was everything like Abe's stuff?
>It looks soulful
No it doesn't, Misaki's design looks soulful because the charadesigner and animators made sure to draw her as cute as possible in each single frame she appears in. The rest of the show is ugly as hell and some episodes are downright laughable in production quality (not the usual one people talk about, this was an artistic choice like TTGL ep4).
>interesting looking stuff like Mononoke, Tori no Uta, Fantascope
Hilarious you say this because these are all far better looking anime than NHK is.
NHK is the most popular gonzo anime by far and it still looks like any other shitty gonzo shows of the 2000s at the exeption of last exile, gankutsuou and afro samurai.
NHK would have never been sucessful without its subject matter, it is so painfully boring to look at and most of the plot is actually so filler-ish, without the whole neet story and Misaki, this shit would have been forgotten like 90% 2000s anime.

>>279637330
>>279634708
I wish I could give all the anxious anons some hugs. No homo.

>>279637364
>When the fuck is was everything like Abe's stuff?
My bad, I was exaggerating but I've heard other people say that they would like "x in the style of Abe" and I just don't think it would have fit this show.
>No it doesn't,
It's subjective, for me it feels comfortable(and I know that nostalgia plays a role in that but I still can't deny it. I agree that it could have looked way better but I don't find it as awful as you do.
>Hilarious you say this because these are all far better looking anime than NHK is.
True, I was just naming other studios that have done cool looking stuff in the 00s.
>NHK would have never been sucessful without its subject matter,
No shit, if you haven't noticed subject matter is extremely important for an anime's longevity. Afro Samurai, which you've mentioned, has one of the biggest budgets for an anime ever yet it almost never gets discussed nowadays because it didn't have anything remarkable regarding its story and characters even though the aesthetic and animation was good.

>>279631326
Misaki Misaki
Misaki leggs
Misaki leggs
They're very seggs

>>279631650
Now you go find someone to pretend to help while destroying their life!

>>279638362
Satou would've been saved if he just LISTENED

>>279638459
>>279638023
She is such a cutie.

>>279638556
She's the cutest!

what would an adult/hag misaki would look like i wonder.

>>279638459
Her effort gone waste... Misaki needs to be more appreciated.
https://litter.catbox.moe/6qcpzuwdpgq2lha5.mp4

>>279639029
Cute MAV! I love her hoodie look so much

>>279639220
I need her.

>>279639549
I need to smell her

>>279639640
Why did satou hurt her so much, I don't understand.

>>279586684 (OP)
I want to murder Manga Misaki.

>>279639680
The bit from the island where he raised his fist at her pissed me the fuck off because he kept doing it. It's so hard to watch

>>279639739
I want to torture you to death.

And then when he refused to accept her offer here. It makes my fucking blood boil. JUST BE NICE TO HER

>>279639739
I wanna date manga Senpai and abuse manga Misaki

>>279640011
>>279640147
Subhuman trash satou! I'll never forgive him for attempting to hurt my angel!

Am I hallucinating or have these Misakifags always been here?

>>279640491
She's way too good for him! She really is an angel for putting up with his bullshit

>>279636713
>Renmei
>zoomers
Lmao, the OP of Haibane Renmei is been in YouTube for almost 18 years and dont even have 200k views, "huge popularity revival" my ass.

>>279640535
I also feel like there's been an uptick in Misaki appreciation, which is great!

>>279640782
>Error: Corrupt or unplayable video

>>279636969
>I don't think everything fits it.
The creator of the LN hired ABe to do the illustrations, which by the way look grat, ABe's style fits perfectly with the NHK anime.

>>279640864
Even 4chan is Misakiphobic now!

I did a writing exercise where I took the basic premise of NHK and reworked it as a novel based on my own experiences as a writing exercise. I was on a real roll too as I put out about 233 pages of this. Most of it was deeply private fantasy wish-fullfilmment for myself really but it was an amazing high to be productive in some way and finish something.

haven't written more than three pages of anything since. this was back in december.

i hate the spring and summer. i feel much more comfortable in fall and winter. everytime the seasons change i go into a depression.

i could really use a misaki right now. maybe i could feasibly even go to the beach.

what about you guys. wrote/draw/did anything lately?

>>279636969
>>NHK anime would have been far FAR better and more iconic in otaku culture and overall anime history if it had the y2k denpa Abe art direction.
You can't just predict what will be "iconic" (whateverthat means)because that defeats the whole point of spontaneous creation which leads to great things which then become "iconic" or famous. You have an incredibly childish outlook on the world, man.

>>279640968
>did anything lately?
MAV
>>279639029

I don't care about Misaki

>>279641328
What made her such an /x/ /pol/ schizo? did they ever explain it?

>>279641328
I don't care about your shitty existence either

l'm so sick of too many people making a fatal mistake. She's NOT BPD. She's HPD.

The original Japanese text clearly states that, and BPD and HPD are completely different.
It's BPD in the English version, but that's a complete mistranslation.

HPD is precisely what creates her bizarre charm in the manga, not BPD.

i have a nightmare that misaki would look at my boney anorexic balding hairy self and go
>No, you're hopeless. Go away.

>>279642196
No way. I don't know how to feel about that. Misaki really helped me get therapy and find out I had BPD. Thank you for the input Anon.

>>279640997
>You have an incredibly childish outlook on the world, man
Insane take considering your argument is retarded by all possible metric.
Obviously my take was made in hindsight that IF the NHK manga had Abe's art direction, it would have been better, btw the Light Novel its adapated from WAS drawn by Abe.
Absolutely crazy to think my argument is "gonzo could have knew it would be more memorable 20 years later with abe artstyle", my argument is that it would have been better even DURING the time it was released to have Abe's artstyle.
There is absolutely nothing distinctive about NHK's visuals in comparison to what is made nowadays and especially to what was made 20 years ago.
To this day there is barely any anime as visually distinctive as Lain or Texnolyze, also thanks to the help of chiaki konaka and nakamura ryuutarou but ABE has had a huge influence over the titles he was involved with.
No matter how much you can praise NHK's anime, you can never in the face of god pretend its visuals are great, the LN was clearly supposed to be grimmer and that's fucking why tatsuhiko hired Abe to begin with. The NHK anime is way too comfy and hopeful for the story its adapting.

>>279642857
Abe's style and NHK as a story are inherently incompatible and you're too blinded by your bias/liking of Abe and NHK both to see that their unity isn't feasible. Especially in an anime. Tatsuhiko liked Abe so he had him do some covers and drawings. Does that necessarily need to translate to a full blown anime in that style? The bright-color high of the initial phase of the story leading the way for the darker edge that comes into play later is a much better take than it being that way from the jump. The anime is perfect as it is and a great adaptation. It looks good, for sure. But what would Abe's style add to NHK beyond just a coat of paint?

>>279642857
>ny anime as visually distinctive as Lain or Texnolyze,
Ping Pong.

>>279643107
Ping Pong is cinema it doesn't count

>>279642196
>charm

>>279642969
>The anime is perfect as it is and a great adaptation
I do not agree.
Satou is a completely outdated vision of neetdom that has been obliterated by the passage of time, he'd barely be a failed normalfag nowadays, he's not even close to be the average /r9k/ poster.
The last third involving Megumi is borderline filler content that has no correlation to the central themes of the show and transforms Satou into some saviourfag going into people's life to save them like fucking Emiya Shirou despite the fact he's supposed to be a living parasite no one should take advice from. The character wasn't even in the original LN.
The whole NHK conspiracy and Satou's schizophrenia are also extremely shallowly treated, he never goes into deep philosophical or self introspection and he ends up seemingly feeling more like a deluded manchild than an actual hikki with psychological issues. Overall his character feels less tangible than the LN by making him less of a piece of shit.
All of that could have been improved by both having Abe's desaturated y2k denpa aesthetic and a more down to earth melodramatic script.

If not for my Misaki daydreams, I would've killed myself a long while ago. No irony, exaggeration or otherwise false intent behind that statement.


I would've been dead all the way back in 2019. That's a fact. Thank you, Misaki-chan!

>>279642969
love the irony of accusing someone of liking nhk too much while calling it perfect. Because if there's one thing the novel needed its excessive padding with time wasting arcs with no lasting impact on the characters involved

the constant mood swings between fun and games and mental breakdowns that make up most of the episodes also flies in the face of this supposed tonal shift as well

>>279642196
>She's NOT BPD. She's HPD.
Horderline Personality Disorder?

>>279643255
Hmm, you make some very good points and now that I start to picture it in my head using the few images of AbeNHK we have, it definitely comes together in my head. Maybe you were right. I just had to really think about it. Ultimately, I'm starting to see what you're saying and also see you've got a big creative bone to pick with the anime and I would suggest you funnel that into some kind of creative exercise where you rewrite/reimagine parts of the story to your liking. you seem to put a lot of thought into this and it'd be fun to funnel it somewhere productive.

>>279633986
She's like a JC you pedophile

>>279643350
out of ten!

>>279643269
you know misaki would only manipulate you for fun and not really care about you right

>>279643350

>>279643392
What compels a man to spend all day lying about an angel?

>>279643326
I mean they could have also made it look like shit, not like Abe was involved with that dogshit Rerired anime back in 2018.
I'd sacrifice all I have for Abe to come back actively in the anime industry because for sure there isn't many to fill his shoes in our days and age, if I had his skill of depicting cute girls in depressed landscapes, for sure I would have done so.
>>279643107
Yuasa and Imaishi are genuinely the only anime directors alive with an instantly recognizable style now that Kon is dead.
Anno fucked off he doesn't count.

>>279643255
>y2k denpa aesthetic
Nta but you do know that denpa doesn't refer to colors right? Denpa works have specific visual motifs which are chosen by directors and writers not by character designers like Abe. Lain could have had a totally different artstyle and it would still be a denpa work. Artstyle has nothing to do with it, there are denpa works that use bright colors.

>>279643536
There's nothing stopping you from using your love of Abe to kickstart a newly rejuvanted foray into art/writing/whatever. Even trying is far more than the average NPC can say for themselves. I believe in you, anon. It did a world of good for me. Just shutting this site out for a while, being left alone with your thoughts and pouring them out in paper through writing/drawing is immensely helpful.

>>279643255
Scrubbing all the drug use from the book really hurts sato's character imo. Without it you start to wonder what he does all day besides sleeping and fapping. He has no other escapist hobbies whatsoever, he didn't even know there was porn on the internet he was just fapping to his imagination all the time.

>>279643403
wtf is this real

>>279643536
>Yuasa and Imaishi are genuinely the only anime directors alive with an instantly recognizable style
Shinbou, Shinkai and NaokoYamada also come to mind

>>279643739
>Without it you start to wonder what he does all day besides sleeping and fapping.
Sounds like the average anon.

>>279643803
NTA but the average anon posts online, watches anime, and plays vidya. Yet, IIRC, Satou actually new almost nothing about the internet

>>279643873
>NTA but the average anon posts online, watches anime, and plays vidya
More like the average anon just posts on 4chan and doesn't have the attention span for anime and vidya. I still get your point.

The novel is the best way to experience the story except the awkward rant about how Jews don't control the world and you're a dumb piece of shit if you think that. That aside, it's a good read.

>>279644073
sounds like you're the exact kind of dope that metaphor was about, congratulations

>>279644073
You could also just experience all 3 of them.

>>279644130
It felt very contrived in a very transparent way. Like the author himself wanted to purge himself of those thoughts and projecting it onto the viewer. Plus, it makes no sense within Satou's POV. Anyhow, your response is clearly in bad faith and you inferred something I did not claim or imply.
>>279644157
I did and I have. I think the novel's a lot more deep cut and has the strongest overall effect.

>>279644301
It's not Sato's POV you fucking baboon, that's in the foreward before the story even starts. If I'm arguing in bad faith it's because I'm giving you too much credit in assuming you knew this and were doing the same.

>>279644301
>I did and I have.
I know. I said that for people that haven't done it yet.

>>279644360
Just checked it and you're right. That's an embarrassing slip-up I own up to. I still think that whole bit was ill-advised since a Jap in Nippon and an American youth won't have the same root problem/outlook with/on that particular topic.

>>279644596
If you've got the words in front of you and still can't understand his point then you are indeed precisely the sort of dope he's talking about.

>>279644727
>Jews are not responsible for your life being crap.
>Okay, so let's look at the fact that my life is crap because of forcibly changed gender dynamics, my gender being maliciously shut out of education and society at large and a horde of foreign hostile invaders are making my life actively worse. These are all things that contribute to my negative state of being.
>Find out that the propagators of all of these movements and social developments hail from Jewish ancestry one way or the other.
>No, but this incredibly powerful group of nomadic people have nothing to do with your misfortune one iota.
Come on, man. I won't absolve myself of all guilt and responsibility cause lord knows I've fucked myself over constantly but let's not be complete asshats about the fact that the author was a Jap who just didn't have the same problems as an American white man which would then inform his views on this topic. He was aiming at a topic he had no ground level experience of.

>>279645295
NTA but I'm amazed that you still don't get it. Jews aren't the reason you're a hikkiNEET. You need to have SOME agency over your own life

>>279645435
You're clearly arguing in bad faith, just as I suspected, and you're not even bothering to read my posts. Why is that? Why is this topic making you so confrontational and dismissive? I clearly explained to you reasonably why there are so many that think that. You're a bad faith actor. I won't reply to you further. Horrible way to end what was a pretty enjoyable Misaki thread. Oh, well. I hope the next one's better.

>>279645497
Relax, tiger. I told you I'm not the guy you've been talking to. Take your pills and calm down

>>279645295
please you don't need to keep proving both me and the author correct you we got it already

>>279628277

>>279626575
Huh. I apparently dated one of your types for 5 years. I never considered her BPD but she matches that to a T.
It's wild to think they can go from super-in-love to break-up to rebound so quickly.
It hurts more than I expected even though I foresaw it happening. Even now I'm only numb despite it being another 5 years after.

Thanks for sharing the internals.

Just finished the anime. Now I feel like I need a Misaki in my life. I know that wasn’t the moral of the story or whatever, but damn. She’s a real one

>>279645295
NTA but i agree with entirely on all the points you made.
I would add as well that the breakdown of local community was done both intentionally (removal of gathering points such as religion) as well as unintentionally (removal of non-religious gathering third-places) and we suffer the resulting isolation as more sensitive individuals.
Thank you for your post and don't let the other anon get you down.

>>279646213
Is... is there more?

>>279637364
>some episodes are downright laughable in production quality.
The animation is serviceable and the character designs are good, is the coloring aspect what makes it look ugly, that and the lack of a quality source.
How can I find this show in good quality?

I want Misaki to cutely girlpee on my face

>>279586684 (OP)
I'm late, but I like this Misaki.

>>279647695
Satou is such a faggot for how he treated her. He only ever had to listen

>>279620637
>—
Hi Gepetto

>>279586684 (OP)
Honestly? This show would've been better if it was yuri. Then again, if it was yuri the show would have a saccharine happy ending instead since that'd be more realistic.

>>279589631
>The original NHK is an actual novel, not LN.
I remember reading it and it felt short enough that I considered it a single volume LN. It's pretty to the point.
The anime added probably 3x the content and changed many fundamental parts.
Unless there's a word cut off, or a requirement that LNs have at least 2 volumes, it really felt like an LN to me.
Calling it a novel would probably be fine too. There are lots of short western novels.

>>279635232
He was never supposed to be autistic in the first place.
And in the book he's not even schizo. He just trips out on drugs.

also did the manga explained why misaki owns a bunch of audio surveillance equipment?

>>279642311
As long as the character got you to see a professional, the outcome would have been the same if you think about it.
Mistranslation or not. The diagnosis would not have changed.

>>279643739
>Scrubbing all the drug use from the book really hurts sato's character imo
NTA, but definitely agree. There was just no way they could put that in, so they made him some fake schizo.

>>279643269
I want to take my meds with this Misaki

>>279648587
She has a rich family and she can just buy whatever she wants.

>>279586684 (OP)
Manga masaki is an unlikeable whore.

I'm rewatching NHK and that scene where Satou goes to writing class and the teacher tells him that he only talks with people that he feels are below him really hits home. It's a big part why I'm so isolated and always trying to feel useful.

>>279644402
Not touching the manga

>>279641328
Based.

>>279651736
I'm fucking lolling at the idea of trying to drive an Escallade around Japan. It'd be like going into the McDonalds Playplace as a 400 pound motherfucker.

>>279651850
I would let Misaki do this to me

>>279586684 (OP)
Wat

>>279651850
her whole intention was evil

>>279627871
I'm not attracted to fictional characters.

This is why we need an IP counter back
Manga misaki is good. Kill yourself and go back to >>>/r9k/ or >>>/lgbt/

>>279653258
With the bpd whores you simp for, little man? Kek
Those places fit you more

>>279651850
Logically impossible assuming the capacity to make someone miserable requires the confidence that one lacks. Yet just by framing such a proposal, Misaki embodies the anime's liberating proposal: Something akin to the meek shall inherit the earth if they can just master themselves, however unscrupulously they might seek to carry that out.

Tenshi!

Saviour!

>>279653849
>>279611361
Why is she wearing a nightgown outside in broad daylight?

>>279586684 (OP)
>right
bratty little sister
>left
semen demon

>>279615043
I want to have sex with Ninamori

>>279653926
Cute girl privilege

>>279654500
Must protect Misaki.

>>279655141
Pretty girl summer!

>>279651850
Misaki-chan b-but that's mean...!

>>279646627
I'm more so sad about those guys than anything. You just know they know what's wrong, they know who's making it like this, they just don't want to admit that they are not masters of their fate and that this nefarious group who wants them dead has forged every aspect of their miserable existences to be so.

Thank you for your post. I know I'm right in this and that there are more people who see this but that anon same-fagging/spamming replies to make me feel bad for being "le crazy" is still affecting. I just wish that guy would get a grip.

I'm off to have Misaki dreams and escape this stupid Misakiless reality

>>279586742
>>279586684 (OP)
I know people here dont read comic books but the difference between manga misaki and anime misaki are almost the same as the difference between the kick ass comics and the kick ass movie.


The anime/movie has a legit tragic story for big daddy/misaki however in the manga/comic it just turns out they were schizos and completely made up everything about their back story

>>279655260
She looks so huggable in that image.

>>279656357
Good nights MisakiAnon

>>279592184
>22 years old
yeah, haha...at least anon isn't still like that in his 30's....haha

>>279656357
sleep tight

>>279656357
I wish I could never wake up.
>>279656399
I know what you're talking about, that's actually a movie I loved when I was younger. I might just give it a rewatch honestly. Thanks for reminding me of that movie. It reminds me of a better time in my life.

Misaki Misaki
I love you Misaki
Misaki Misaki
I need you Misaki

>>279657205
Her arrow has pierced my heart

>>279586684 (OP)
Both are built for Satou

>>279651850
Wait, why do people like this evil little psycho again?

>>279657668
>Why do people love this cute little angel again?

Misaki anal!

gentle love making with Misaki

gentle, romantic buttmating with Misaki

>>279658183
cute feet

>>279658237

till we meet again in another misaki/nhk thread

>>279657668
She's fine in the anime