Thread 280257092

New anime is good. There are countless good shows made in the late 2010s and early 2020s that are of high quality like 3-gatsu no lion, Non Non Biyori Nonstop, Umumusume, Ousama Ranking, Made In Abyss, Onimai, Frieren, etc. Anyone who doesn't like new anime likely doesn't know what they're talking about and should be disregarded as a newfag who just got into anime and is still catching up on old things, or has nostalgia for toonami. Looking back, there are very few shows I have a genuine fondness for versus the variety we have now.

Additionally, manga is arguably the best it has ever been. I am following over 40 ongoing manga and many of them are timeless classics in the making.

>>280257092 (OP)
plap shinobu cunny and then give her headpats after

>>280257092 (OP)
O.K.

>>280257092 (OP)
This is dollar store level bait

I'm sadly not following that much manga these days for (reasons).

>There are countless good shows made in the late 2010s and early 2020s that are of high quality
I agree, there have been really good anime this decade.

>>280257092 (OP)
>many of them are timeless classics in the making
Moments before disaster

>>280257092 (OP)
But.... bikinis are banned from anime due to Ishiba and Korean corpos pressure.... no anime last season had bikinis. No anime this season will have bikinis.

>>280257209
Every last word of that post is true. You are a crab in a bucket. The issue is the poor source of information on 4chan. People disregard seasonals and they are never discussed once they are over, and manga dailies are all slop like world trigger. This leads to a board culture that is lazy and ignorant. I think people keep it this way on purpose so they can prop up shit like one piece and naruto. No one would tolerate that stuff if they knew what was really out there. Your depression and demoralization is a product of the crabs you surround yourself with.

>>280257092 (OP)
Based
They hated Jesus too

>>280257092 (OP)
I agree that there are plenty of good anime these days, but your taste is so incredibly shit that I'm just going to write you off as a retard and ignore everything you say anyways.

>>280257290
get a fucking life fag

>>280257092 (OP)
Good anime:
>Chainsawman
>One Piece
>Dragon Ball Daima
Gay anime:
>Frieren
>Bocchi
>Umumusume

>>280257612
This isn't a funny joke anymore.

>>280257092 (OP)
Except for the last paragraph, I agree. I don't really think there is enough timeless classics in the making publishing right now.

i argue that a whole bunch of cash, attention, and collaboration of talent has expanded anime. So we have more content and more stuff.

half of the time i always see these new studio from the start of 2020

Well I listed 40 manga and 4chan just ate it so here we go again.
>>280257266
>I'm sadly not following that much manga these days for (reasons).
>>280257694
Here's 40 manga I'm following:

Berserk
D-Gray Man
Hunter x Hunter
Yotsuba&!
Foul Detective Satori
Real
Kingdom
Akatsuki no Yona
Yozakura Quartet
3-gatsu no Lion
Tsugumomo
Yamikin Ushijima-kun
Grand Blue Dreaming
Made in Abyss
Mairimashita! Iruma-kun
Kusuriya no Hitorigoto
Yuru Camp
Heavenly Delusion
Vanitas no Shuki
Dai Dark
Spy x Family
Shadows House
Medalist
Onii-chan wa Oshimai
Ousama Ranking
Fool Night
Kabushiki Gaisha MagiLumiere
Exorcist wo Otosenai
Touge Oni
Konjiki no Gash!! 2
Super no Ura de Yani Suu Hanashi
Uma Musume: Cinderella Gray
MagMell Shinkai Suizokukan
Dogsred
Seitokai ni mo Ana wa Aru!
Ichi the Witch
Monochrome Days
Hitokui Mansion to Ooya no Maison
Amateur Vigilante
Genikasuri

>>280257612
No one that likes One Piece should be taken seriously. I don't know how anyone can look at the last 400 chapters of One Piece and not want to rope immediately. People like this should not be here.

>>280257269
I'm pretty optimistic about it. Even if 5% of what I'm following winds up being masterpiece tier, well, that's actually a lot.

>>280257842
You like horse anime.

>>280257092 (OP)
>people are actually falling for the turbo bait rec thread
How does /a/ do it?

>>280257092 (OP)
No!

Old good, new bad! /a/ told me so!

>>280258098
We should make another naruto general instead.

>>280257092 (OP)
I just dont like the way they are designed, rendered and directed most of the time. Anime stopped being for me after 2014 and thats okay.

>>280258149
>Anime stopped being for me after 2014 and thats okay.
Well no, its not okay to visit a board for a medium you became disinterested in over a decade ago. You shouldn't be here at all.

>>280258163
That's silly, there are plenty of threads about shows from before then.

>>280258187
>That's silly, there are plenty of threads about shows from before then.
No, there are plenty of insular and repetitive generals that are very rapidly stagnating the board. Your presence is poisonous.

>>280258119
>>280257842
>>280257325
>>280258198
>>280257092 (OP)
>metafagging again
But you've always belonged there in the naruto threads onimaifag
>>280226578

>>280258198
It doesn't have to be one or the other. A lot of older anime left lasting impact and people are constantly going back go rediscover good series that might have gone under the radar. Just the 90s-00s alone have a lot to discuss and post, cute girls and all.

>>280257092 (OP)
>New anime is good
>Troonimai
This is my favorite part of the bait

>>280258227
>It doesn't have to be one or the other
No, looking at the catalogue it objectively does. Coexistence is sadly impossible.
>people are constantly going back go rediscover good series that might have gone under the radar
No, there are no "hidden gems". Only newfag millennials going through a midlife crisis and trying to reinvent themselves believe this.
>Just the 90s-00s alone have a lot to discuss and post
Already discussed it to death 20 years ago.

It's very boring and intrusive, like its constantly summer.

Will the crusty trannyjanny delete this meta thread like xhe did the Dandadan thread about zoomers winning or will xhe keep it up because xhe personally agrees with it?

the overwhelming majority of currently serialized manga are garbage. but that's only because there is much more manga being serialized than the average /a/non can comprehend. and on top of that, the ones that get translated are isekai garbage.
manga is objectively better than anime in every way, so it's a real shame that there are so few mangafags on /a/. i think people only read manga on this board if there's a storytime thread for it.

>>280258312
>so it's a real shame that there are so few mangafags on /a/
Dailies forever ensured there never will be. The people those threads attracted are dumb as shit.

>>280258312
to make things easier would your be content with a 'genre' thread rather than a storytime thread

>>280258344
anything that isn't about a specific series is a "general" (isekai general is allowed because reasons)

>>280257092 (OP)
Trvthnuke.

Who cares dude

>>280258307
Do you want it deleted because you disagree with it

>>280258237
Onimai is very good and a huge portion of the best animators in the industry worked on it.

We know

Anyways this is now a Shinobu thread

I wish my standards were this low.

>>280258809
>look at this painting of a turd, it's the most exquisitely painted turd in history!

>>280258937
What's wrong with it? It's a delightful commentary on immense societal pressure preventing men from actually growing up.

>>280257092 (OP)
>New anime is good
>Frieren
This is my favorite part of the bait

>>280257092 (OP)
Anime, being a visual medium, but progressively getting shittier and shittier tier animation is the only problem I have with modern shows, really. I don't know who's to blame and why they think cutting costs on animation of all things is acceptable, but there's ultimately no reason to watch anime now over reading the source material (unless it's an original).

>>280258951
...for one episode. Then it's bland indulgence in ageplay fantasies for 4 hours, with the fantastic message that it's okay to put estrogen in your egg sibling's food and for grown men to be and hang out with little girls.

>>280259033
>...for one episode.
Nope, the entire anime is about Mahiro's growth as a manchild.

>>280259021
>progressively getting shittier and shittier tier animation
Uh this definitely isn't true, old shows by and large have atrocious animation. Additionally, most old animators are still around, like dragon ball super *mostly* has the same animators as dragon ball z and they're animating the same exact way, people just realize how shit it is now compared to other modern anime. The only guys that are gone from the team are the ones who did close-ups, who moved to animating pokemon.

>>280258812
I prefer snail.

>>280259211
I don't know what's your point of reference.
And I wouldn't call old animation atrocious. Less detailed, if anything. An older low-budget show still looks magnitudes better than modern seasonal slop. At least, it didn't try to fake its quality.
I'm not an animator, so I don't know the terms I should use to describe the problem I have with modern anime. It's just that I want to gouge my eyes out when I watch a new show. Doesn't mean there are no exceptions, too. Usually, the budget is the problem. I just don't like how its being distributed now.
Shows like Frieren is what a modern anime should look on average (for the medium to retain any value).
And if you think what MAPPA makes looks good, more power to you, I guess.

>>280257842
>Touge Oni
Didn't need to read the rest, your taste in manga is impeccable.

>>280257803
This has the "Black teen invents a new PC" meme vibe to it.

>>280259021
Animation quality is definitely not getting worse. I'd blame the recent mainstream adoption of anime on the fact that the quality is so good now even with minor studios. Jojo's managed to multiply its fanbase just by being adapted a second time with modern animation quality where before its anime decades ago was uncared for. Even in the 2000-2010 era a lot of shows like Book of Bantorra or floundered because they weren't by the few good studios like Bones, Madhouse Gainax etc. The sheer number of people who watch several seasonal anime nowadays rather than the current biggest battle shounen (whether or not its a good thing) is in itself a testament to how much better animation across the board has gotten.

>>280257092 (OP)
Yeah even the worst seasons lately have 1 surefire premiere and 1 or 2 pleasant surprises. Anne Shirley has been great and it shouldn't be surprising once you know it's the staff behind Your Name

>>280257092 (OP)
>New anime is good.
Is this "new anime" in the room with us right now?

New anime is good, but it isn’t what I fell in love with in the 90s. I miss the older otaku sensibilities, the cel aesthetic, the designs.

>>280261092
Newfags that just use anime to replace the hole the western industry left wouldn't get it.

>>280257092 (OP)
>3-gatsu no lion, Non Non Biyori Nonstop, Umumusume, Ousama Ranking, Made In Abyss, Onimai, Frieren
You're only listing the big ones, there are plenty of others:
>Further Than The Universe
>Hinamatsuri
>Houseki No Kuni
>86
>To Your Eternity
>Alice To Zouroku
>Flying Witch
>Shadows House
>Akiba Maid War
>Demi-chan wa Kataritai
>Dororo
>Nu-Spice & Wolf
>Ancient Magus' Bride
I've had less time to read manga, but there is definitely a resurgence in actual fantasy:
>Bugle Call
>Re:Cervin
>Clevatess
>Kuuden no Himegimi
>Majo to Yajuu
Oh, but wait
>inb4 "fell for the rec thread"
Yes, and fuck you. We need more actual anime/manga discussion here instead of pseudo-general #10000 and seasonal posting.

>>280257092 (OP)
Based Shinoposter. I've only seen one potentially bad Shinobu fan in my life. Other than that, nearly every single Shinobu fan seems to be based beyond belief.

The tourists went back to just consuming shounen, but for some reason they stick around here and bitch and cry.

>>280259211
You can yap all you want but it won't stop people from using their eyes

>>280257092 (OP)
>3-gatsu no lion, Non Non Biyori Nonstop, Umumusume, Ousama Ranking, Made In Abyss, Onimai, Frieren
Anime is a visual medium and all of these look worse than old anime that were aesthetically mediocre for their time. Are you watching them for the writing? Just read a book nigga lmao

>Noooooooooooo you can't like anime!
t. /a/

>>280257092 (OP)
Of that list, I only watched Friedan and Ousama, but if those two are among the top names you can think I don’t think the rest of your opinion is valid.
The only thing good about Ousama is the aesthetics. And while the fist half of Frieren was definitely good, the second was just a generic chunky exam copy and turning it into the thousandth battle shonen that treats magic as an individual power that are unique to each person

>>280262035
*frieren
*chuunin

There are less good things than there were in the early 2010s and the industry is no longer the buffet that it was at that point in time where you could spend an entire day trying out new shows and end up picking up all of them.

Fall 2010 was the peak of anime and we'll never get it back again.

>>280257842
>Classics in the making
>First line
>Berserk
>A 40 yo manga
>The author is dead
Lmao no need to read further, you are 12.

>>280257092 (OP)
90% of anime is shit, with some amazing shows inbetween
and people act surprised by it time and time again

>>280262939
Seriously, seasonal watching was actually worthwhile back then. Keeping up with all the series and their threads was so much fun.

>>280257092 (OP)
>Made In Abyss
Based appreciator of my sosuwife's anime and manga.

>>280262939
The only good anime during that entire season is kiss x sis, where do poseur faggots like this come from? The whole season was just quirky shitpost shows. There is not a single show that season I would consider a classic or go back and rewatch and it was also the year shaft released the worst and most boring anime they ever made. It's no wonder this place is so shit and boring now if this is who's running the show.

>>280261715
>won't stop people from using their eyes
This is one of those "close ups". If you check sakugabooru, the key animator for this scene works on pokemon now.

>>280262035
>The only thing good about Ousama is the aesthetics.
You realize Ousama Ranking is a fairy tale made by a radical right wing japanese nationalist right, and there is a lot of underlying messages reflecting that, like the episode about the poverty village betraying the other village is an analogy for Korea and Japan.

>>280265693
You're clearly remembering the wrong season or just have bad taste.

https://anichart.net/Fall-2010

>>280258490
>tfw adorable lolis making you pon-de-ring their holes

>>280266103
That's exactly the season I'm referring to. Ninkoro is 10x better than Soredemo and I bet you didn't watch a single episode of it. (and even ninkoro is pretty average) Other than that, we have follow up seasons of kataganari, heartcatch, and Sgt frogger so I'm not counting them. A lot of these are simply terrible, like that kaminomi adaptation is hot garbage compared to the manga, and seeing as according to mal just about every anime that season is a 7 or worse looks like they agree. (Except they like bakuman because theyre normalfags lul, and if thats not your cup of tea basically not a single "classic" released that season)

>>280261092
>I miss the older otaku sensibilities
Your behavior is the exact opposite of otaku

>>280266363
>and seeing as according to mal just about every anime that season is a 7 or worse looks like they agree

Okay, had me going there for a second. Good job.

>>280267011
See how you're dancing around defending what you actually think is good? And, by the way, same character designer for katanaganari is working on gquuuuux, along with the FLCL director, so I mean, it's not like these people even went anywhere. You're just gunna sit here and be a triggered whiny little cry baby without backing up anything you're saying, because the more you reveal about yourself the dumber you're gunna look. The older something is the more necessary it is to critique, but for tourists and newfags these are untouchable sacred cows for some reason, that despite obsessing over they won't analyze even one bit. It's a very dumb and ironic existence.

>>280262939
>Fall 2010 was the peak of anime and we'll never get it back again.
What in the hell are you talking about lmao

>>280267285
Nothing to do with your post, but are you the same fag who does the seasonal's rankings with the Eiffel template? Your writing style reminds me of the one's of that OP. It would be funny if it were so, but I kind of doubt it.

>>280261092
You are non-otaku tourist. You can't even understand Japanese and rely on translations and influencers to tell you what to think.

>>280257092 (OP)
>onimai

IM DIALATING AHHHH MY NU-GINA AAAAAAAAA

>>280263287
>90% of anime is shit
Sturgeons law really is true huh

>>280269469
>>280263287
Dunning-Kruger is more applicable here.

>>280259167
The anime is still shit in comparison to the manga tbdesu

>>280270001
Eh it's different. The manga is a lot slower and has more stuff, whereas the anime is basically japan doing an animation flex passion project with something cute

>>280259033
Lots of projection. Mihari's drug is magic anyway.

>>280267285
>gquuuuux
You mean that trainwreck?

Why would you even want to watch an anime about a loser otaku.

>>280259211
>The only guys that are gone from the team are the ones who did close-ups, who moved to animating pokemon.
Source? First I've heard of this.

>>280260180
Don't bother replying to these contrarian autists. Older shows are plagued by still-frames and shoddy "fight" scenes. Technology and techniques have improved immensely since then. The average anime now is FAR above the 80s - early 2000's.

>>280257092 (OP)
i just hate the pandering to normies. Anime has definitely gotten better but all the budget goes into making anime thats most accessible to normalfags so they get all the high quality stuff
i like anime made by otakus for otakus

>>280257092 (OP)
>new anime
Is shit ever since anime industry is synonymous with anti-lolicon.

>>280271205
>>280260180
Modern anime visuals are shit compared to older ones because the resolution makes it basically impossible to draw whole scenes, so everything is digitalized to an extent that it looks like a sterile plastic scene compared to anything older. Sadly, nothing to do with that as it would literally take decades to finish a series if they wanted the same quality on today's standard resolutions.

>>280259211
>like dragon ball super *mostly* has the same animators as dragon ball z and they're animating the same exact way
Lmfao you retards always pick the worst example to expose yourselves as having no idea what you're talking about. If anyone's a newfag who still needs to catch up it's you.

Texhnolyze and Utena good.
K-On! and Mushoku Tensei bad.
edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!

>>280265751
Here are some more close ups for you.

>>280271989
Dragon ball fans can't read huh

>>280271960
Texhnolyze is a masterpiece.
Utena... well it is what it is.
I found K-On to be kinda cheapo and derivative (I watched it when it originally aired).
Muhsoku Tensei was ok although I preferred the web novel.
Not sure what your point is.

>>280272051
>Texhnolyze is a masterpiece
Bro what, it's like a 2/10 anime. What are you, 12 years old?

>>280272051
Texhnolyze is fucking garbage.

>>280272102
This
Animator
Is
Working
On
Pokemon

>>280272020
>>280272102

>>280272092
41. I'm not saying it's too deep for you. I'm just saying you're too zoomer trash to enjoy a good anime.

>>280272020
He really can't, dragon balls are literally retarded.

>>280272185
I'm genuinely 35 years old and I think onimai is better than it

Dragon ball
One Piece
Hunter x Hunter
Jojo
Fate Zero
Gurren Lagann

These are my favourite anime

>>280272246
I like onimai too.

>>280272175
Check "naotoshi_shida". Thanks for confirming you're talking out your ass.

man i hate shonenfags, all they post are fight scenes or someone screaming

>>280272175
This is actually true, every decent dragon ball scene was animated by someone who now works on one piece or the new pokemon series. And decent is really generous. >>280272102 this is interpolated, so we've already got a real moron.

>>280272185
As if Texh isn't zoomer trash. It has the usual self-pitying angsty sissy characters and a teenager's idea of maturity and artistry.

>>280272352
Oh because we should post webm about anime characters just talking, flustered or doing some coomer shit? retard

>pedo and pseuds seething
shonenchads always win

>>280272371
The first time I watched Texh, the average zoomer wasn't even out of his diapers.

>>280272387
https://youtu.be/1Jqg1UxUJ9Q
Better than anything in dragon kek

>>280257092 (OP)
>trannymai
bait thread

>>280272444
It's not about the animation you sad virgin. I don't watch pathetic stuff like this

>samefagging troon losing it to superior dragonball animation
Reminder that Onimai is pandering soulless slop designed for its target audience of neet trannies

>>280257842
>Here's 40 manga I'm following:
>40
nigger i don't even read that much and i have 400, fuck outta here

>>280272352
That's most of what they are, so if they get brought up, that'll inevitably be the majority.

>>280272543
Imagine being a grown ass man and having this shit saved on your computer. Embarassing

>>280272494
>i-its not about the animation!!
lol what kind of weird cope is this

>>280272433
Seems weird because shounen is most affected by pedos just watching it for the children characters,

>>280272595
I'm just saying, you HAVE to be a fucking sissy for watching stuff like this. No matter how good the animation is

>>280272563
>>280272645
normalfag, tourist even. deplorable

>>280272563
imagine caring about what people on 4chinz have to say about you

>>280272645
Post 5 seconds of Goku running. Oh wait, you can't because the whole show is just half naked dudes teleporting around while screaming like profession wrestlers.
>you HAVE to be a fucking sissy for watching stuff like this
Gunna be real with you dawg, if you like dragon ball as a grown man you literally take dick in the ass

Let's be real here, dragon ball is shit, one piece is shit, bleach is shit, naruto is shit. HxH and Slam Dunk are the only passing big wsj titles. If you like anything else your mouth is probably full of dicks 24/7.

>>280272880
bruh >>280272315 >>280271989

>>280272645
>>280272563
I can tell you're not a grown man at all.

>>280272841
it's not about that. Nobody knows I watch anime and read manga. Nobody cares, and I certainly don't care if they know or not. However, I certainly wan't enjoy certain things because I'm too much of a man for that. Like I can't imagine myself watching stuff with little girls doing girly things or a show about woman horses. Cringe as fuck.

>>280257092 (OP)
no, old good new bad

>>280272880
>a dude watching onimai telling other dudes they're gay
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

ITT: my taste is the only valid taste and anyone who disagrees with me is a gay newfag zoomer.

>>280272444
>>280272494
>>280272645
>>280272595
>>280272906
This is such a shounen fucking trash season though, you should be allied with your fellow fucking teen kid appealing DB shit.

>>280272880
man this is so fucking gay. I hope you'll touch grass sometimes

>>280272645
Trvke

>>280272906
"Bruh", what? It's just two frames looped over and over. Show me 5 seconds of running. Can dragon ball even have a proper walk cycle?

>>280272934
couldn't care less what you think sissy. I know I'm man enough.

>>280272880
Are these the horses? Going all out this time.

>>280273005
>pedo still posting stuff about little girls
sad, it really is

>>280272952
Onimai is for REAL NIGGAS ONLY.

>>280272943
anime then
>sailor moon
>ccs
anime now
>uzumaki
>chainsawfag
stop doing these retard cherrypick comparisons you dumb nigger

>>280273054
>niggas
Oh so we're talking with darkies.. I see now.

>>280273012
You sound insecure as fuck. Your posts make it obvious.

>>280272880
>jerking off cleaned up one piece animations
Slop eaters will do anything to justify their soulless corporate designed shit

>>280273047
lmao he brought out the pedo card. this aint twitter buddy

>>280273079
seethe more sissy

>>280257125
Hello with the based hotline?

>>280257092 (OP)
Umumusmume is gacha slop, Ousama ranking had a great start but got bad; a problem with most manga in general. Onimai has good animation but it's disgusting; couldn't watch that shit.
also
>If you don't like new shit you're new
what?

>>280272880
>as soon as it sees dragonball it starts trying to erp
Cute little tranny getting excited seeing a man for once, no wonder it's so obsessed with shonenfags

>>280272935
That webm was a female police officer, how is that girly?

>>280273222
>If you don't like new shit you're new
>what?
It's simple. Newfags look back to the past. Oldfags already experienced it. If you don't have a strong line up of new anime that you like then you are inarguably a massive newfag that doesn't know much about anime yet. Also, how is Onimai gross? Explain.

>>280273330
Not him, but no straight male though Onimai is not gross crap with those designs for the anime.

>>280273415
>no straight male though Onimai is not gross crap
Show me exactly what you mean. Show ne what part is "gross".

>>280273546
Nice try, girl hating little faggot.

>>280273330
>Oldfags already experienced it
Your massive leap in logic already fell short when you picked something as obvious as Dragon Ball for your past reference.

>>280273330
I'll give you that there will always been something worth while and on average most anime is crap every era, as an oldfag I guess you're right when you put it that way then. Onimai is gross because it heavily sexualized the lolis, and I'm not normalfag. I didn't even expect to be so repulsed.

>>280273609
Whoa there anon, I didn't make any jumps in logic. You seem upset. Only newfags care about old things. Because they are experiencing them for the first time. It's that simple. A tourist comes here and sits here for 6+ months because it takes them that long to get through 1 anime, and just spams a general on whatever old shit they are watching. It's really, really simple.

>>280273067
the only series featured in that image is pop team epic

Hello schizo Onimaifag that LARPs as an old fag, I see you're back to metafagging again

>>280273581
Give me an example and stop cowering. Every criticism is always "well its just too japanese for me". If you hate Japanese culture then obviously get out. Shows like this are okay because Japanese people are more level headed and civilized. The browner a country gets, the less this stuff is allowed because some 40 IQ retard can't help but chimp out at things he doesn't understand. When I hate something it's because I've made the effort to understand it perfectly. I am profoundly aware of the things you like and gave them all an honest try and found them to be shit for reasons I'm perfectly capable of discussing at length.

>>280273753
You're operating on the assumptions that the only reason someone can care about something is if they've never experienced it before and that they have no reason to hold any interest in something they have experienced before when those obviously aren't even true of yourself. A person's possible motivations are literally countless, and it will widely vary from series to series.

The tourist hypothesis incorporates another leap. It's just as probable that one anon posting an anime motivates others to check it out and so on. It's based on another assumption in how long it takes to get through 4-16 hours (that's 2.5 to 9 minutes per day) when it's actually more likely the gaps between threads lines up with the time it takes other anons to watch the entire series.

>>280272436
Sucks that it isn't any better for it.

>>280273083
Uma Musume is pretty autistic, every thing is based on real world horse racing and horses. It's more "yakuza" than "corporate" and it's, uh, pretty unique and absolutely drenched in Japanese culture and history.

>>280274127
>You're operating on the assumptions that the only reason someone can care about something is if they've never experienced it before
No I'm operating under the assumption that someone would only care about a 20 year old 6/10 anime to the point of needing a 24 hour a day half a year old general is either severely mentally and can't move on or a complete newfag. There's no middle ground here.
>It's just as probable that one anon posting an anime motivates others to check it out
There's no new blood on 4chan, it's bleeding users. This goes back to the mentally ill bit. You're astroturfing the anime you've made your total identity to an audience that doesn't exist. At best you'll attract a fellow schizo who will pretend to be new and ask really dumb questions (being a newfag is in vogue these days) to keep the thread bumped or siphon off some (You)s. The world will continue forward unchanged in spite of your efforts, this is all just stagnation.

>>280274474
And to specify, 4chan's entire identity at this point is just radioactive /r/kotakuinaction and /r/thedonald fallout that just cyclically experience the same media over and over. They get tired with one board, come here, take a huge shit for 6 months, then move on to the next board. This is what /a/ is now. You've got some guy who's been making elder scrolls threads or whatever on /v/ for 6 years straight or whatever and now he's here to post about the most entry level normalfag anime popular while posturing as a "masculine boomer" and after he's thoroughly spammed down and ruined this place he'll get bored and not understand why then move onto the next board while calling the medium dead. This is how the "newfag" works. You aren't going to convince someone to watch whatever old show your grifting and even if you did it wouldn't be worth it. Look at the daily threads and how abysmal the level of discussion is in there.

>>280274474
>a 20 year old 6/10 anime to the point of needing a 24 hour a day half a year old general
I'm a NEET who keeps track of the threads all day so I can easily confirm that these don't exist, but I'm not really surprised that's what you try to put forward.

>>280274728
>I'm a NEET who keeps track of the threads all day so I can easily confirm that these don't exist
What do you mean? We have the same exact threads every single day. I feel the guy that seethes about brotherhood is just a very obvious microcosm of board culture as a whole right now. Many of the same threads are made every single day and it's just one guy clearly talking to himself. And when multiple people do this they talk to themselves faster to keep their thread on top of the catalogue, and the bumping and samefagging gets faster and faster until it hits a singularity where all discussion dies and the board either becomes /vg/ or everyone leaves.

>>280257092 (OP)
>>280274658
>reddit tourist finally breaks down
This is who's spamming the thread complaining about /a/ and newfags btw

>>280274885
Spamming what thread? Did you take your medication today?

>>280273113
>this aint twitter buddy
It is now.

>>280273330
What the fuck are you talking about? Newfags are only interested in new anime. There are even those kids who explicitly refuse to watch anime older than 10 years old because it's "boomer shit".

>>280265693
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9QXmcC5wXM&list=RDC9QXmcC5wXM&start_radio=1
Star Driver was better than 99% of the crap coming out today. Or are u one of those psueds who basically hate mecha and are just here for icky cgcdt crap?

>>280257092 (OP)
>Essentially, otaku culture has become its own undoing. It went from stories with fanservice to stories about fanservice. It reduced itself to its most addicting elements until nothing but the bare formula, the mere algorithm was left. As for light novel adaptations, you had more ambitious works like Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Mushi-Uta and Boogiepop among lesser stories with more of an otaku focus like Zero no Tsukaima, To Aru Majutsu no Index and Shakugan no Shana. Nowadays, the latter three would be the more ambitious stories that are almost entirely gone. Stories with cute girls became about cute girls. Visual novels about conquering heroines were replaced by gacha games that would hand them out as lotteries on a silver platter so you no longer have to commit. A self-cannibalization process of sorts has found its logical end point. I remember when, in 2012, we all mocked Sword Art Online with disdain for being the worst example of pure otaku pandering and unadultered wish fulfillment – rightfully so. Nowadays? Nowadays we get like 10 of these rotten isekai things that are worse than it every season anew and I‘m starting to wonder if SAO is now even that bad considering what followed it. At least it was set in a video game. At least it had a three word title. At least Kirito had some sass. At least it made an attempt to take itself seriously when I couldn‘t. It‘s sad to look at this line of thinking. You look at these minor things and 10 years later, they have become major points of distinguishment.

>>280274818
>>280274658
>>280274474
>>280273966
>it's just one guy clearly talking to himself
Meds schizophrenic ominaifag, you've always needed them
>>280258224

>>280275071
>What the fuck are you talking about? Newfags are only interested in new anime
You are conflating "newfag" with "zoomer". The people coming here are 30+ year olds who've been sitting on /r9k/ wizchan whining and complaing and doing nothing for the last 10 years and have been too busy playing OSRS or whatever to watch anime, then suddenly realize they are depressed enough to marathon dragon ball or the annual rewatch on NHK or whatever and come here to shit up this place. That's the typical archtype you're attracting with these retro threads. Zoomers are at least tolerable because they'll grow and be interesting some day, maybe. You aren't and never will be interesting unless you make a big change. I would rather talk to someone who's watched 1 new anime than 1000 old anime, I've already discussed all that. Unless you put in a TON of work and really work on critically analyzing and coming up with something interesting to say about that old content, what you watch is just worthless to me. That zoomer is already miles ahead of you, in my eyes, and catching up on the "le classics" won't improve your standings, especially when you superficially scrape the dumbest shit from the past anyways.

>>280257842
>Berserk
>D-Gray Man
>Hunter x Hunter
>Yotsuba&!
>Real
>Kingdom
>Akatsuki no Yona
These are already classics nigga

>>280275097
>Or are u one of those psueds who basically hate mecha and are just here for icky cgcdt crap?
How is it better? This shit is not better than 86. Mecha and sentai is largely a TERRIBLE genre, and being nostalgic for mai hime or some shit isn't going to change that.

>>280261542
>>inb4 "fell for the rec thread"
>Yes, and fuck you. We need more actual anime/manga discussion here instead of pseudo-general #10000 and seasonal posting.
This, rec threads are 10000x better for overall board culture than the millionth isekai/moe/fagshit general.

I like both mecha and cgdct

>>280275237
I hope you come to realize why it's not in your best interest to get so specific about the people on the other side of the screen.

>>280275340
>This shit is not better than 86. Mecha and sentai is largely a TERRIBLE genre, and being nostalgic for mai hime or some shit isn't going to change that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FG0EKsVqEg

AHAHHAHAHAHAHHASJDOAJDOADJKOSDKANDKAKLDLADAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

Try to cool it with that daily estrogen intake anon

>>280275280
I'm well aware of that. And they are ongoing. None of them can be discussed here either.
>Berserk
Nothing but whining after Miura died
>D-Gray Man
Screeching that the manga is too confusing and just posting pictures of the mangakas cats
>Hunter x Hunter
Crying about the hiatus and that "new bad" schizo spamming the 1999 series that no one likes
>Kingdom
Too long and complicated for history larpers to pick up, too much world building and politics for shonen fags despite pretending one piece is like this
>Akatsuki no Yona
The fujos here can't relate to the protagonist because she bathes occasionally.

>>280259021
You would have a point if you weren’t over exaggerating like a shitposting retard. There are numerous anime released every season with passable visuals and artsyle. But of course you’re implying that Frieren was terribly made now? Enough with the atrocious bait

>>280257092 (OP)
Then why is your image 10 years old?
If new anime is so good, why don't you use a good new reaction image?

>>280275237
>The people coming here are 30+ year olds who've been sitting on /r9k/ wizchan whining and complaing and doing nothing for the last 10 years and have been too busy playing OSRS or whatever to watch anime, then suddenly realize they are depressed enough to marathon dragon ball or the annual rewatch on NHK or whatever and come here to shit up this place.
Projection
>I would rather talk to someone who's watched 1 new anime than 1000 old anime, I've already discussed all that
Really? You've already watched and discussed all the old anime? And said everything that could be said about them? You've already talked about how Slaughterhouse-Five influenced the filmmaking style of Satoshi Kon? I'm just glad that not everyone has the same mindset as you that's so antithetical to art. Just consume the latest product then never talk about it again after moving on to the next big thing.

>>280261715
Are you really nitpicking right now?

>>280275700
>You've already watched and discussed all the old anime?
Yes anon, I've watched every remotely decent old anime. I watch at least 2 episodes of anime every day, usually with lunch and dinner. That's 730 episodes a year. I've been doing it for 20 years, (I'm 35) so that's 14600 episodes of anime, plus the occasional binge. It's really not that farfetched.
>projection
I'm not allowed on wizchan ever since it switched admins (booted for calling people retarded for being depressed) and I don't like those shows.

>>280265881
>Ousama Ranking is a fairy tale made by a radical right wing japanese nationalist
Thanks for the recommendation.

>>280275527
First, overexaggerating is fun. This thread isn't worthy of being overly-serious about. Just consider my point without the overexaggeration.
Second, Frieren looks solid and is consistent (which is more important). But, as I said here >>280259585 it's not an improvement and the fact that its animation quality is "noteworthy" really speaks about how low the bar is.
>There are numerous anime released every season with passable visuals and artsyle.
>the average is average
Passable, yes (if you look at your phone half of the time). I'm just saddened by the fact of how uninspired and formulaic a medium with great potential is.

>>pedo and pseuds seething
>shonenchads always win

>>280276055
I don't think you know anything about animation

>>280275845
>14600 episodes of anime
Which is the equivalent of 561.5 two cour shows, and many shows are longer than two cours. That's not a lot at all, and thinking that's a lot, let alone thinking you discussed everything worth saying about old anime, shows you were just a poser this entire time.

>>280276148
That's what I said. So I only judge as a consumer. What is your point?

>>280257092 (OP)
Hello Onimai tranny who LARPs as an oldfag

>>280276202
>Which is the equivalent of 561.5 two cour shows, and many shows are longer than two cours
I "binge" things like gundam, Dragon Ball isn't worth watching past Z, and I wouldn't waste my time watching stuff like One Piece or precure,(although precure has had some good seasons) and I'm not watching 300 episodes of some 70s little kids show. 2 episodes a day is plenty to keep up with all quality seasonals, there has never been more than 14 good episodes of anime a week in all of history.

>>280276202
Watching more than 500 anime series is pretty insane.

>>280276509
Maybe for a zoomer newfag.

>>280275845
>I've watched every remotely decent old anime
In other words, you don't watch bad anime. This phrasing says more than you think. It's impossible to know if you've watched everything good without willingly consuming an abundance of bad for reference. Of course, simplistic categories of "good" and "bad" say just as much: that you haven't seen enough to actually cultivate any personal taste that diverges from objective evaluations or consensus. So you obviously haven't seen anywhere near as much anime as you say and what you have seen is only entry level mainstream stuff.

>>280257092 (OP)
>and many of them are timeless classics in the making
Yeah no, I would call them good but not the kind of manga people in a decade or so will recommend.

>>280266851
Modern anime isn’t “more otaku”.
>>280268703
No clue where you got that impression.

Let me make it easier for you. Anime is an aesthetic medium, the visuals are very very important, right? Does anime look different now? Okay. Then some people will have taste that skews one way, and some will have taste that skews another way. Modern anime is not providing 80s anime or 90s anime or 70s anime, if you like that experience more you aren’t wrong.

>>280273966
You are defending a homo trash, you girl hating little fuck.
ywnbaw

>>280273330
You haven’t completed the past, poor logic.

Old anime good, new anime good

>>280277628
>new anime
No lolicon new anime. It loses by a landslide.

>>280277660
School Days wasn't lolicon, anime, mentally ill schizo.

>>280277660
Loli is fairly niche as-is but it still exists. Made in Abyss, Monogatari, etc.

>>280277553
Imamura Ryou's art style is so disgusting. It's a shame Seitokai ni mo Ana wa Aru has him as character designer as well.

>>280258237
I'm convinced that if you can't recognize Onimai for its high quality, despite the seemingly troon themes, you are simply low IQ.

>>280277721
Yet it still got a loli spinoff, with official loli lewd that's more daring than anything we get on loli front these days, you retard. That's the whole point.
>>280277747
>MiA
It's shotacon if anything. It even cuts out the loli panties/fanservice. It's not lolicon.
>>280277760
They wanted to appeal to a...certain...demographic. And that wasn't lolicons.

>>280276509
No it isn’t that’s barely scratching the surface.

>>280277823
MIA is lolicon because I got a boner at the lolis.

>>280277823
>not denying it

>variety
It's not my favorite era of anime but the initial explosion of digital in the early 00's has more variety than now or any other time. The barrier to entry was lower and the market (late night and the dvr) was blue water. We've consolidated quite a lot along the lines of what do the production committee members fund, what works commercially is a much more known quantity. It's a much more mature market and the shows all reflect that. These days we're even below the absolute peak of anime in the sense of how many minutes of animation are being made each season.
>doesn't know what they're talking about and should be disregarded as a newfag
I actually know what I like and know that it's hard to find in modern anime. It's low hanging fruit but the spastic action direction of modern shounen is not what I like in a battle shounen, for example.
Another example I see old Japanese industry heads throw around quite frequently, if you're the type that enjoyed more loose manga adaptations, where the episode director had a lot of creative leeway: You're not eating so good these days.
In a more personal to me sense, and I think something slightly older /a/ shared, if you're really a fan of original anime this really isn't a great era for you either.

>>280277896
Sane post.
The mid-to-late 90s is my favorite aesthetic era (followed by the mid-to-late 80s), but the era that was the best for concepts, variety and outside-of-mainstream sensibilities was undoubtedly the early-to-mid 00s.

>>280257092 (OP)
Well.......Its certqinly better than western tv

https://youtu.be/TsaD4z8iyqU?si=pSy0_b5pWqJhUYWh

https://youtu.be/1mVlVitzkNs?si=EBU7H2KT7--LSEyi


https://youtu.be/IrCrMgVo0V8?si=mvSgOSVPyPsbZ0p4

https://youtu.be/fGTfbMioezc?si=piDxvIU5yw1ng70z

https://fxtwitter.com/Mr_mansuuR/status/1464107444649570305

>>280257092 (OP)
2010 isn't new anime
LMAO new anime is 2020+

2010 is old anime

>>280278663
2020s is just 2010s part 2. Not distinct enough.

>Onimai
Faggot post, Faggot OP. Thread hidden.

>>280277766
They're always culture war fags who can't see clearly, while the Japanese don't give a shit about either sides.

>>280277337
Idk dude, medalist? 3-gatsu? made in abyss? kingdom?

>>280278192
Wokeism might suck today but Western TV at it's best is still far and above most anime today...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPeXFV94bsE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmZtWQIhRr0&list=RDFmZtWQIhRr0&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fxv-Q4_4cY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqDcnwrsq6U

>>280258809
It still amazes me that the tf loli piss had the best animators.

>>280279443
This shit sucks ass

>>280262035
>that treats magic as an individual power that are unique to each person
How so? The system isn't like that at all iirc?

>>280276115
>>280276402
>jannies leave these up
What did they mean by this?

>>280272563
>he thinks he'll stop enjoying things he enjoyed when young as he ages
kek
if anything, you get the nostalgia buff and extra dopamine.
or perhaps you envision a future for yourself where you work so much you have no time to enjoy the things you enjoy.
or not wanting to introduce your children or nieces and nephews to interesting(non-degen) hobbies and such.
young people always think they're going to have some massive fundamental mental change when they get older. but you eventually notice very few people are much different than they were in high school. no matter their social status.
the only real game changer is the responsibility of a child or children. but that doesn't erase what you like from your brain. if anything it makes you yearn more for it, since you don't have as much time as you otherwise would to enjoy all that you would want to enjoy.

>>280279519
It's what Japan wanted

>>280257092 (OP)
This.
I'd add that the people who moan about anime fandom are retards that are too online for their own good. Like, nigga, step outside. No one gives a shit about this culture war autism. Even at anime cons I've been to (numerous since 2021), no one fucking cares. Anime is generally still treated as, surprise, entertainment. As it should be.

>>280265881
That was supposed to change my opinion?
>>280279614
I don't know if it changes in later arcs, but during the chuunin exam the magic the seemed like a common tree of skills when Frieren was teaching her disciple suddenly becomes a lot of different quirks. Each wizard has their own magic that acts like completely independent exclusive powers (I have the transformation magic, I have the exploding magic, my magic cuts things, my magic is ice, etc. etc.).

>>280279799
they are racists

>>280281141
>quirks
This is brainrot.

>>280272943
Waifuism

>>280266363
>Ninkoro
Lol, lmao even

Old good (I watch only anime from the 90s), new bad (I'm a man of narrow scope)

>>280266363
>Ninkoro
>good
I hate edgy teen fucks who hate moe and cuteness.

>>280283982
>>280284397
You gotta take meds

post more shinobi

>>280284838
Stop projecting tranny

>>280284838
Disgusting cope.

>>280257092 (OP)
End your life. That's all I have to say to you.

>>280284883
no

>>280274658
Don't be so grumpy anon. I know it seemed like it would last forever, but the 2010s have ended. The culture wars of the last decade are beginning to be forgotten. People grow up and leave and move on. For better or worse, half this board is zoomers already
>>280275165
is this your blog? I enjoyed reading it

>>280277760
>It's a shame Seitokai ni mo Ana wa Aru has him as character designer as well.
It's gunna be aoty thoughever

>>280277766
>I'm telling you dude this anime is quality-made (it's not), you just have to ignore all the gay pedophilia!

>>280279443
Somewhere out there someone thinks this unironically

>>280279799
This bait thread and the jak meltdown is going to stay until bump limit isn't it

>>280286857
How is this factual thread bait

>>280258149
>I just dont like the way they are designed
I have no idea what people mean by this. Are you just saying that anime doesn't look bad enough any more? It makes no sense lol

>>280277896
As I get older I just watch less shows per season, usually only about 1-2 that seem to really grab me. There's always something to watch but it's not a lot. I think in the future I'll revisit all the shows I never got around to and probably enjoy them enough to make it worth my time.

I agree. I find the idea that good art in any medium simply stops being made after an arbitrary date (typically whenever the speaker leaves their teenage years) is insane and only said by severely depressed or cowardly individuals too scared to watch new things that have nebulous reputations and can only watch classics for e-peen. However like said >>280277896 there is undoubtedly always going to be strong and weak eras for any medium. Non-anime example but the 70s, specifically in American film, is my favourite decade for movies, likewise I think the 2010s~20s is the weakest era for games, but I'd still say there's plenty of good ge-mu being made. Just like how good anime continues to be made, even if we aren't in the greatest ever era for it.

>>280273289
This seems like projection. This sort of outburst is classified as a symptom of OCD, you know, there's even treatment for it.

>>280257092 (OP)
Only the most gigantic of idiots worship old things.

>>280275361
A normal rec threads also give me a much better Chinkshit/Gookshit than anything that Gookfags/Chinkfags have ever given to me