Thread 281641101

I hate Demon Slayer's male protagonist will all my heart. And generally i hate shonen protagonists like him and the one at My Hero Academia that are crybabies because "muh feelings and morals" despite being incredibly strong physically. meanwhile normal human with no superpowers like Satoshi from Pokemon has more balls. and the only tears he sheds are bro tears like when he said farewell to Butterfree. hell, even Sakura from Cardcaptor Sakura is less crybaby despite being an elementary school girl.

>>281641101 (OP)
reminder tanjiro never had to face the morality of killing a human being.

Tanjirou literally doesn't think twice before killing a demon.

>>281641101 (OP)
? Tanjiro never said that and murders all the demons he fights except his sister tho.

>>281641143
I dropped Demon's Slayer after a while. It has great visuals, animation and nice action and some nice waifu but still a generic shonen anime.

He's never once said or acted like that though.

He'll weep for the human they were, then slice their head off with no hesitation.

kimetsu haters literally invent shit inside their head to get mad about that dont even happen in the show lmfao

So many butthurt Demon Slayer fanboys at comments

>>281641201
>"Waaaaah! Don't criticize my favorite shonen slop!"
You're a zoomer nigger and it shows.

>>281641101 (OP)
>I hate this meme version of Tanjiro conjured by (my) shitposts
Ok? What about the actual character from the story?

>>281641101 (OP)
>has no libido
>KILL! BEHEAD! VAPORIZE!

made me think

>>281641101 (OP)
>because "muh feelings and morals" despite being incredibly strong physically
You are a barbarian savage. Possibly roided monkey Westerner, you really give that vibe.

OP spams DS hate threads with random text every couple hours. Peak mental illness.

>>281641101 (OP)
ok but who managed to make demons go extinct

Wrong shounen protag

>>281641143
Neither did Frieren

>>281641101 (OP)
Zoomers and ESLs really fly in out of nowhere when you say anything bad about their favorite plotless garbage. I watched 2 seasons of this trash and dropped it. There's nothing special about it. Nothing interesting going on and I don't even enjoy the shitty cell shaded visuals. I'm not surprised it's popular though. Just like other shounenslop, MHA, One piss etc, It's the perfect entry level show for people who are scared to think and only want to see shitty impact frames while screaming "good animation".

>>281641101 (OP)
I really did not like Kimetsu no Yaiba, but Tanjiro never cried because he killed a demon. He cried when humans, his family included, died, and wept for the tragedy of humans becoming monsters and thus needing to be killed; he cries because his sister (stupid plot device that she is) has become something that, if a cure isn't found, he would need to kill with his own hands to take responsibility: every time he kills a demon he sees his sister doing something that cannot be mended (killing a human as a monster) and becoming his very next target.
Now, everything I just said is written like shit and resolved in even worse ways, with total retarded solutions, but you have to be retarded to not understand the moral plight of a literal children's manga.

How does /a/ fall for such obvious bait? Is the barrier to entry this low now that newfags feel welcome to post without lurking for 2+ years?

>>281641101 (OP)
Why the fuck do people keep thinking Tanjiro is like this when he has never hesitated or complained about killing demons?

>>281641526
Ok

My wife Shinobu and her suicidal rage against demons.

>>281641526
Neat. Not a single word you typed changes that we've seen Tanjiro kill more demons than Frieren.

I love heroes who sympathize with thier enemies. They're the coolest.

Should I watch or read Demon Slayer? What the fuck is it even about? I don't usually ig ever read manga.

>>281641761
>we've seen Tanjiro kill more demons than Frieren.
Frieren is literally called 葬送 by the demons because she caused the most amount of demon slaying in history.
Tanjiro has killed two or three dozens of demons by himself at most.

>>281641811
Read it. Zenitsu's voice is better in the manga.

Leave those demons to me

>>281641850
ESL-san
>seen
As in on screen, which defeats the entire premise of this thread. Frieren's 1000+ years old, if she hasn't killed more demons than a 15 year old she should Aura herself.

>>281641811
I don't know your watching or reading habits, so I don't know if you could even like it or prefer one or the other medium.
>anime
Very bad voice acting. I dislike the general cast and the direction really doesn't work with what's on screen.
Most episodes drag on and suffer from being too close to the original source when it comes to pacing; this is especially bad during the first three episodes.
General Ufotable school of having a lot of SFX animation and 3D background with dynamic camera in place of actual 2D drawings interacting with one another; direction and storyboards vary greatly in quality from one episode to another.
>manga
The paneling is barely ok, I find the art style unreadable, especially in later arc with more complex fights making the page cluttered beyond reasonable measure.
A lot of chapters needed more editorial supervision, lots of pages about nothing.

>>281642074
I knew you would have replied like that. I knew it, while I was posting I thought
>he's not gonna be a pedantic autistic fuck and say that only what happens on screen exists in the narrative
Go fuck yourself

>>281641232
>slop
opinion disregarded, dilate.

>>281641101 (OP)
Tanjiro is the senpai of Frieren, and Demon Slayers inspired the manga itself. Tanjiro kills the demons for their deeds, but he is humane enough not to hate them for what they are, but for their sin. That's why Demon Slayers undoubtedly has deeper character building and moral code than Frieren, which is simplistic but that can be some kinda appeal to some people, mostly to dehumanizers. He is a rare case of solid, mature and firm character that Shonen manga usually lacks, a true role model figure. That is why the Japanese kids responded that they admire Tanjiro more than their own father.

>>281641101 (OP)
I know this is a bait post, but Tanjiro literally kills every demon he faces, the thing is he's willing to feel pity for them if they had tragic circumstances when they were humans, but he still kills them regardless.

>>281642228
>say that only what happens on screen exists in the narrative
Except I didn't say that. I acknowledged she's killed more, as she should have considering she's many times his age. The point was, even in your own words, we've seen him kill a few dozen demons, so OP is retarded. Instead of seething at me, maybe work on your reading comprehension.

>>281641101 (OP)

https://animehunch.com/frieren-will-overtake-demon-slayer-says-weekly-shonen-sunday-editor-in-chief/

Frieren still failed Sunday's Editor in Chief

>>281642346
Arent demons in Frieren completely different than in KnY as far as not once being human?

>>281642641
Pretty much. For starters, demons in Kimetsu are basically Japanese onis who were former humans. Demons in Frieren are an independent race who adopted a humanoid appearance to fool humans and kill them more easily.

>>281642438
People these days don't understand a main character can feel compassion for the enemy and still deal with them accordingly. Then again I doubt OP actually checked Demon Slayer.

>>281641761
Why would I care about what happens on screen? Demon Slayer is a shitty villian of the week type show. With him killing a new demon every few episodes. Frieren is after the story of her killing demons has already ended, and her total accomplishments are significantly higher than Tanqueero.

>>281642641
Yeah, it's a problem of English translator being lazy.
The word in Frieren is 魔族 (mazoku, lit. Evil Tribe), the general term for supernatural creatures of evil nature; they have a 魔王 (maō, lit. Evil King) who's the strongest demon. To give you an idea about how general this word is, Satan in Japanese translations of the Bible is called maō.
The world in Kimetsu no Yaiba is 鬼 (oni), the name for the folklore race of malignant spirits.

>>281641143
Demons are mutant humans

>>281642789
>With him killing a new demon every few episodes.
And that's all that's relevant to the topic at hand. Thanks for playing.

>>281641101 (OP)
This post is so dishonest and shit because Tanjiro fucking hates Muzan and he would tear him to pieces before listening to him.

>>281641266
found the seething microdick zhang

>>281641101 (OP)
I think that if Tanjiro got isekai'd in Frieren's world he would kill every single demon he met with not a tear shed because after the explanation that they're a parasitic race born to imitate, infiltrate and eat humans, and were never humans in the first place.
Frieren, isekai'd in Tanjiro's position, would first try to find a magical cure for the demon condition before killing a human being under a curse (from her understanding)

>>281641101 (OP)
Both of these are complete dogshit.

>>281642963
>I want to remain an ignorant retard so in my head I'm right.
You're welcome, I accept your concession.

>>281641101 (OP)
But he kills the demons

>>281641526
>and ESLs
Saar please do the needful close of thread's page

Tanjiro feels like a proper character while Frieren feels like a flat mary sue

>>281641101 (OP)
KnY fans genuinely get on my nerves. "W-wow man t-this is so freaking cool!" and then it's most boring story ever with the least likeable characters ever. How the fuck do you even take this shit seriously. It's everything that's wrong with new gen slop and its fans.

Are demons in Frieren like AI? Like when people now get confused and think that AI can "think" but the program its just guessing?

>>281641232
>retard with zero reading comprehension
>criticism = outright lying about what happened so you can pretend to have an argument
you're a special kind of retard, retard

>>281643366
Imagine posting this with a Kyoukai no Kanata image. The audacity.

>>281643093
No he fucking wouldn’t. He’s a shounen protagonist so moral law is in full effect — meaning he can’t and won’t do anything to anyone who isn’t acting comically evil on-panel in-front of him / attacks first. Second of all, translations confuse this but the two races are completely different: KnY demon = “oni”, a type of youkai from Japanese folklore, and Frieren demon = “mazoku”, the enemy race from DragonQuest and the standard enemy race in isekai. Tanjiro would not consider them even remotely the same thing. And if he meets a well-dressed human-looking person out in daylight with horns who says hello to him, he’ll just say he low nervously back not knowing what to make of it. A Mazoku would not detect any mana from him so they would consider him beneath notice and leave him alone, unless they were struck with the desire to kill him for whatever reason, but most of the time they would simply just part ways. Even if you told him that people with horns are dangerous and will kill people, he won’t do anything unless violence is happening in front of him — like it ALWAYS does in KnY for moral cover reasons.

Likewise, Frieren would not hate onis at all, and in fact see them simply as humans suffering under a curse. She would do everything in power subdue them non-lethally while trying to figure out a cure. She absolutely would protect them from being killed by Demon Slayers, because she understands that humans will kill one another she wouldn’t tolerate it happing in-front of her if she can help it.

>>281641749
>boring moralfag
I'd rather read Rurouni Kenshin that handles moralfaggotry far better than some shut-in femcel
>>281641714
>asspull non-character who's only accomplishment is dying
Like I said, KnY has no memorable characters.
>>281642030
Except for him of couese. He's unironically the only memorable character in this shitshow.

>>281641811
The anime is flat out better, but it's also slow as fuck and takes it sweet time. Not exactly the anime fault because the manga is also very slow, but at least you can at least just speed up the pace of your reading.
Read the manga, but youtube the fight scenes because the anime does it incredible justice.

>>281643562
>“mazoku”, the enemy race from DragonQuest
>>281642840
The Bible is a JRPG confirmed

>>281643562
Get outta here with your rational thinking and logic!

>>281641581
He's not retarded, he's a schizo who posts this shit over and over. He knows it's wrong, people have pointed this out in multiple threads, but he keeps doing it out of sheer spite or masochism.

>>281642346
Frieren has more mature writing than KnY ever has. I'm actually under the impression that the author is some shut-in autist with zero life experiences considering their characters don't act like human beings and are more like concepts than people. It doesn't give off any sense of authorship like early Frieren did because the story beautifully captures her internal struggle as she grapples with the fleeting nature of human life and the permanence of her own existence. While her companions aged and experienced the fullness of life, including love, loss, and the inevitability of death, Frieren remains largely detached from these experiences, having lived centuries. This difference in perception highlights a central theme of the series: the importance of cherishing moments and memories.

As Frieren travels, she encounters various characters who influence her understanding of life and relationships. Through her interactions with humans, she learns to appreciate the beauty in fleeting moments and the significance of emotional connections. Each encounter allows her to evolve from a solitary figure focused on her magical pursuits to someone who begins to value companionship and emotional depth.

The story also employs flashbacks to illustrate key moments in Frieren’s past, revealing her initial interactions with her companions and the development of their bonds, serving as poignant reminders of what has been lost and emphasize the emotional weight of her journey. As Frieren reflects on her memories, readers are reminded that while time may change people, the impact of shared experiences can leave a lasting imprint. Her quest to understand their lives, to grasp the significance of their dreams and aspirations, becomes a way for her to honor their memories. This introspection is beautifully illustrated in the series through scenes that juxtapose her present experiences with her past, emphasizing the contrast between her eternal existence and the ephemeral.

>>281643929
>Frieren has more mature writing than KnY ever has
They're on the same level of very, very basic storytelling, and every nitpick about one being more mature than the other is laughable.

>>281643929
>chatgpt reply

>>281643394
They're genuinely intelligent and have feelings and personalities. They're just absolutely alien and hostile.

>>281641101 (OP)
>Tanjiro has mercy for demons!
The mercy in question:

>>281644135
And then he cried for the demon as we got flashback montage #592
I'd take Frieren that cuts the crap thank you very much

>>281641173
/thread

>>281644189
From that demon? We got nothing.
In general, few demons get sad flashbacks, even among the top ones like two of them are not absolute pieces of shit.

>>281644135
Tanjiro’s bleeding heart is literally only for character flavor, it has no bearing whatsoever on the plot. It’s a virtue-signal “look I’m so empathetic and Good” but with absolutely NO meaning in the events. Tanjiro’s superior goodness is NEVER challenged by a demon who is anything less than comically evil. Even when the mangaka forgets make a demon be comically evil (Akaza), Tanjiro still treats him as if he had murdered his family. In reality it’s just the usual bog standard trashy JP moral law in effect.

>>281644279
You now remember tanjirou can smell how many people a demon has killed.

>>281643929
>Frieren has more mature writing than KnY ever has
Heroes good, villains bad

>>281641101 (OP)
Ironic, considering the Golden City/Macht arc is just a KnY lmao, down to "muh sad backstory" lol. I dropped it back in 2022.

>Watch the Demon Slayer movie
>Nearing 2 hours now
>Akaza's head gets lopped off
>No lmao, he still keeps going
>Movie goes on for another 30 minutes
It was pretty funny having him be headless as he reacts to those flashback scenes. For some reason I heard more girls squealing about him compared to Doma or Kokushibo. Huh.

>>281644411
Akaza is the true thirst trap
>I can fix him
>weak to shy and weak girls
>will go insane if you die
>only you can redeem him

>>281644265
Yeah, that’s about right. Akaza and Kokushibo are literally the two demons with some degree of complexity, ALL the others, from the UMs, LMs and all the fodder, are comically evil. They are so brazenly, over-the-top, ridiculously evil because their purpose is to be killed by the protagonists who must have moral cover, and only in a few cases did the mangaka feel like using them for a more interesting story.

>>281644449
>Kokushibo
He IS an iredeemable piece of shit.
Daki and Gyuutaro are ok, but not koku, he deserved what he got, 100% and he was extremely evil.

>>281641989
>Zenitsu's voice is better in the manga.
Truer words have rarely been spoken.

>>281644303
So what about a human murderer, criminal, soldier, etc? Are they demons too? Obviously this manga is too cartoonish to EVER be challenged by such things.

>>281644504
Why should a manga called kimetsu no yaiba, focused on killing totally not vampires focus on humans.

>>281641208
Comments? Are you confused bot? This isn't YouTube

>>281641411
Infinitely worse than Demon Slayer
At least Demon Slayer, the demons were once humans and you can have some understanding of how they got to such a state
The Promised Neverland, the demons were a completely different creature than humans and had their own society/views/morals. They were, in every sense of the world, alien to humans.
That bitch suddenly wanting to not kill them was batshit, especially after how many of her friends were killed/eaten. Just stupid.

>>281644481
Nonsense. How many people has he spared in his long life? Way more than any Demon Slayer has demons, which is zero. He doesn’t go around grinding his enemies faces into all the evil he’s done to them, randomly slaughter civilians for no reason, etc. You get a sense of regret and sadness from him more than anything else, him and Akaza are by far the most human-presenting. Koku is dark Kenshin, he even has Kenshin’s iconic pose, and you’re clearly suppose to feel sympathy towards him, especially considering how he fights just like a human. He’s Darth Vader, a villain who must be defeated, but with complexity beyond “comical evil to be hated”.

>>281641989
LMAO

>>281644504
Why would they kill humans? They're a demon slayer organization, you know.

Bot thread, but Tanjiro is pretty much every bad fake-modest preachy moralfag Japanese protagonists ever. I remember reading what Araki has to say about characters like him from his book "Manga in Theory and Practice"
>WHAT MAKES A GOOD MOTIVATION
>Your characters' motivations have to gain the interest and empathy of your readers. A good motivation is one that makes the reader wonder what will happen to that character, and what that character will do, because then the reader will want to keep reading.
>What you have to realize, in the instance of shonen manga magazines, is that those motivations will always be attuned with the readers natural sense of ethics. The three principles of Shonen Jump are friendship, effort, and victory. Likewise, shonen manga readers will strongly empathize with what they feel is good and right, and will reject that which they feel is unethical.
>Because of this, characters such as Death Note's Light Yagami, who kills again and again—even if the targets of his assassinations are criminals themselves—requires skillful technique for the mangaka to win over the readers.
>On the reverse side, characters who are 100 percent virtuous can come across as fake and unlikable. To avoid this, you need to include in your main characters weaknesses or faults, or more human desires.
>Even if your main character's motives are well-defined, cowardly acts will still repulse your readers. This is mostly because cowardice is in direct opposition to the morality of your audience. Readers will never empathize with a gutless hero who sacrifices innocent bystanders to save his own life. Similarly, if your protagonist is in a tough situation because he blundered into it, your readers will judge the character as a fool and will only react with antipathy.

>>281641101 (OP)
Is this real? I saw the movie and he killed Akaza with no remorse / empathy whatsoever. Granted I never watched the series before

>>281644777
And japan loves him so...

>>281644814
Of course not. I don't think there was ever a
>BRO WHAT IF DEMONS WERE LIKE HUMANS TOO CAN'T WE COEXIST
in the story whatsoever. The only actual time there was any hesitation was with his sister. I don't think the protags even learn of the demons sad backstories since its all playing in their head.

>>281641201
Frieren fans are threatened that people aren't talking about their snorefest show anymore

>>281644754
I’m talking about Tanjiro’s supernatural sense of smell. If he can smell how many people a demon has killed, he should be able to smell the same on humans. There should be plenty of humans who have killed just as much if not more than the younger demons have managed, yet Tanjiro never once meets these people. He never once meets anyone in the Demon Slayers corps who have the smell of death on them either. It’s a cartoon JP moral law manga, nothing more

>>281644868
There's tamayo, but she's the only one outside muzan's influence.

>100 posts in
>literally nobody mentions that this is a falseflag thread started by a schizo
C'mon, you're better than this.

>>281644903
It's not his job, unironically.
Humans can be judged by law, demons can't.

>>281644909
Oh right but even then she's all for the kill Muzan and by extension TOTAL DEMON DEATH so the story still pushes for the genocide route.

>>281644837
i remember that one gif of japanese fans flocking to greet and hug a Tanjiro mascot while ignoring a Deku mascot, I felt bad for the person inside

>>281644940
Oh, I know it's a bait thread, I just want to see how far the schizo will go on his crusade against Kimetsu.

>>281644940
I think everyone implicitly knows. I just watched the movie and had fun and thought to stick around whatever threads there are. Missed the train it seems.

>>281644940
It's a jeremy thread, everyone knows that.
Let's posts facts he hates
>after it opens on korea this weekend, kimetsu is projected to be at 75 million international by monday, bordering on 300 million international before EU/USA/SA (the biggest markets)
And MT did like 90 million so... another one for the
>I fucked up my preditions
sack.

fuck elves

>>281645005
More like the movie won't be out for a good chunk of the board until next month, sadly.
You DID miss all the funny jimbo threads, however, he's changed predictions like four times already.

>>281644713
>Koku is drawn to be sympathetic, because he is like Kenshin!
This entire premise is out of touch, I wonder if we read the same manga

>>281644888
OP doesn't like Frieren, he just want to stir up fanbase wars.

>>281645052
Tell me more, what did he say?

>>281644279
I'm pretty sure he was willing to let her sister die for the greater good and that was an important plot point.

>>281645134
>it'll do like 150 milllion ww total
>it'll do 200 million ww total
>it'll do 120 million in japan because of (f4, superman, jurassic park)
>it'll do 250 million if it's lucky
>it can't do 300 million without china
>it won't do better than MT in USA because of NFL<--- he is here right now

>>281645134
I didn’t follow the debate in detail, but I just assumed he was right because he’s clearly a standard deviation of IQ higher than the guy he was arguing against. I knew that because he seemed to address every argument in detail, while the other guy just repeated the same things constantly. When a lower-IQ argues with a high-IQ, you’ll notice the pattern of the lower-IQ just repeating themselves in order to deny whatever the last post was because to them as long as they can deny whatever is in front of them they won’t lose.

>>281645095
Anon probably relates too much about being permanently the second fiddle despite abandoning everything in your life.

>>281644713
>and you’re clearly suppose to feel sympathy towards him,
Man you're fucked up.
Koku mowed through every single sun breather, he didn't eat humans.
And his backstory is such an insane collection of fuckups you just need to agree he deserved what he got
>my brother is much better than me so I'll turn into a demon
There's a reason his fight involves murdering his last living descendant.

>>281645167
She had to kick him away. The purpose of that scene was to give Tanjiro moral cover; he didn’t abandon Nezuko, she decided to make a noble sacrifice on her own free will which God rewarded her for so that the reader won’t feel bad when a sacrifice actually sacrifices something.

>>281644135
Now that I think about which shonen actually had the MC acting apologetic / merciful towards the enemy faction? I can't recall much actually other than Naruto.
One piece: Luffy beats the shit out of anyone who threatens his friends: Crocodile, Enel etc literally every arc
Bleach: Ichigo straight up kills anyone who seriously threatened his allies: Ginjo, Ulquiorra
JJK: Yuji had no remorse murdering curses like Mahito
HxH: Gon beats enemies to a pulp (Genthru) and murdered the shit out of Pitou

>>281645256
>which God rewarded
She was always immune to the sun, same with tanj.

>>281641101 (OP)
Tanjiro doesn't balk at killing demons beyond Nezuko, and even then he quickly recognized that Nezuko had a slight amount of hope that almost all other demons did not.

>>281645264
There aren't much really if we're being honest. Even Naruto only tries to talk no jutsu people he cares about, everyone gets a rasengan otherwise. Goku doesn't give a shit as well as long as he can waku waku.

>>281641457
My man Himmel did

>>281641101 (OP)
Both series have lazy writing for their demons

>>281645246
Yes, he was doing the Kenshin bit of regretting his past. Could you imagine Douma seeking his own death? All Koku’s flashbacks were him lamenting everything he’s thought and done in the past.

>>281645434
That's akaza.
Koku doubled down on becoming a demon in the very end until he got beheaded.

>>281641101 (OP)
It's made abundantly clear on DS that demons LITERALLY can not be reasoned with, with the nurse, her assistant, and Nezuko being rare exceptions.

>>281645264
>JJK: Yuji had no remorse murdering curses like Mahito
and ability to do that lmao

>>281641101 (OP)
>t. Didn't watch demon slayer

>>281643520
Fuck off the art was beautiful as were the girls

>>281642869
Demons are monsters born from a human's death. The person they once were no longer exists.

>>281641526
>t. Jeet

>>281645599
schizo cope desu

>>281645599
>The person they once were no longer exists.
Anon, pretty much all of the UMs have flashbacks where they get a glimmer of their humanity back. It's still there.

>>281645561
Could you imagine Tanjiro meeting Solitar and going “I’LL NEVER FORGIVE YOUUUUUUUU!!!!!”

>>281645599
That’s literally false not only narratively and plot-wise as well. Nezoku, Tamayo and her demon all exist. If demons really were just unreasoning monsters who can’t even understand sympathy then Tanjiro wouldn’t constantly get into moral arguments with them. A mazuko wouldn’t comprehend what Tanjiro is even talking about. Like if he ranted at one of the Frieren mazoku about what life means to them, murdering random bystanders, treating people cruelly, etc, they wouldn’t get mad they’d just have questions marks going off over their heads and frankly not understand what this human was mad about. Mazoku don’t even have the concept of parents. Oni, however, have the full range of human feelings available to them, they just act comically evil at all times. Why eat humans? Because I’m better than a human so fuck them bwahahaha!

>>281645027
Projections =/= Performance
Fans love to hype up numbers like "75M already in Asia by Monday" (lol) or "300M before major markets" (lol). These are guesses, best-case scenarios, and not based on actual box office. I'm not making stuff up, I rely on verifiable data, not hype.
>>281645171
Again, like I said, you're a dumbass third worlder (like the vast majority of the Latinx who makes up Demon Slayer's fanbase) who thinks like a retarded Japanese and assumes America operates the same way Japan does. History doesn't back you up. All anime US releases are frontloaded. Huge Day 1, massive weekend, and then a steep drop, especially for niche titles. Every big anime opening drops 60-70% in Week 2, exactly like Mugen Train, JJK 0, DBS Broly, etc. No reason to expect Infinity Castle will break that pattern.

Also, Asian currencies like JPY, KRW, TWD, HKD and VND are extremely weak against the USD. That makes even strong local box office numbers shrink hard in international comparison. $1 USD = 150+ Yen, $1 = 1,300+ Won, ₹20M INR = $240K USD. So unless it's China-sized, it doesn't move the needle much. Slam Dunk pulled $90M in China alone which is more than every SEA + Taiwan + South Korea + Hong Kong combined. If Infinity Castle had China, it could surge higher. No China = $50M-90M gone. There's no spinning that.

LATAM? Good for fan enthusiasm, bad for actual box office impact unless you're Dragon Ball. Europe? Mostly minor, France is the only exception where anime performs well due to cultural and distribution support.

And LOL @ this dumbass nigger thinking "NFL won't affect anime box office!" Peak delusion. NFL dominates weekends, especially in September. Nost Americans would rather watch their team fumble than sit through a 2h35m Japanese dub subtitled anime of some Japanese brat swinging his sword, screaming and crying.

Never watched Demon Slayer but I'm not a big fan of the MC's design for some reason.

>>281642752
Has he fucked Road yet?

>>281646089
Doing more than $600M btw

>>281646209
Not without China btw. Just that alone, means the movie is hits a hard ceiling. Dropping in September in the US during NFL season too.

>>281646089
>These are guesses, best-case scenarios, and not based on actual box office.
but it's based on actual box office estimations, because worst korea is pulling amazing numbers from preorders alone.
It was at 35 million last sunday, take a guess what korea will make it get to.
>or "300M before major markets" (lol).
I mean, it's tracking for that at least, and nice of you to add
>before major markets
because a week ago it was
>impossible without china
Another goalpost moved.

>>281641101 (OP)
Frierenfaggots are so pathetic. These threads aren't going to change the fact that no one outside of Twitter likes it.

>>281646263
You really love being wrong

>>281646089
I'm going to go and say that USA+canada+eu+latam is an easy 100+ million + whatever it's doing in SEA (looking close to 100 million by the end of its run considering projections for it are sky high).
It can perfectly hit at least 400 million ww at this point based purely on hype and forecasts.

ENOUGH FROM THE SCHIZO

A lot of older shonen deals with these characters better.
old moralfaggotry
>What you are doing is wrong. Stop or I'll slice your throat
modern moralfaggotry
>STOOOP THINK OF ALL THE PEOPLE YOU'RE HURTING. IT MAKES ME CRY. YOUR SO MEAAAN. DONT YOU FEEL BAAAD?

Why does Demon Slayer triggers so many people? Is textbook "stop liking what I don't like" behavior.

>>281646449
>>STOOOP THINK OF ALL THE PEOPLE YOU'RE HURTING. IT MAKES ME CRY. YOUR SO MEAAAN. DONT YOU FEEL BAAAD?
Name 4 modern shonen that does this. Naruto isn't modern btw.

>>281646514
It's wildly successful for how "basic" it is.

>>281646561
If only that was the reason Jeremy hates it, but noooooooo, he hates it for overshadowing MHA and selling better than DB.

Shit thread. Let's turn it around.
>Fav DS character
>Fav Frieren character

>>281642641
Yes. In KnY demons are former humans, corrupted into monstrous form. In Frieren demons are monsters mimicking human form to attract prey.

This thread is now under the protection of Hantengu and Zohakuten. All Harlots are to leave immediately.

Saw that tickets for the movie in the Le Grand Rex theater in France sold out in under a minute.

>>281647379
And they are trying to get a third showing due to popularity, yes.

>>281647361
Based harlot hater

>>281647480
This guy looked so cool. Wish he had a larger role in the story.

>>281646514
For me it's more "why do you like what I don't like". Watched most of the show trying to find what everyone was so hyped about, I found the characters annoying and many of their designs ugly. So I don't understand it's popularity. Maybe I'm just too old.

>>281646300
Your dumbass is bragging that Infinity Castle is "tracking for $300M before major markets" and mocking me for "moving goalposts." Nah, brat. You're the one who is redefining what "major markets" even means week-to-week. First it was...
>300M without China? Easy.
Now, it's,
>Well if we count all of Asia and Korea pre-sales and projections and Twitter vibes and a crow flew east at midnight...
Shut the hell up. If you have to redraw your map of the world to make your claim work, your argument is trash. You can't dismiss China as a bonus when it's historically 30%+ of big anime global box office.
>korea is pulling amazing numbers from preorders alone.
900K tickets sold for ₩12K-₩14K per ticket = about ₩11B-₩12.6B = $8.5M–$9.5M USD. A $20M Opening Weekend in Korea is extremely good. But that's not Endgame level. It's very strong for an import. Still, $20M in Korea =/= $300M globally.

Second, Korean anime runs don't leg out, and even a dominant opener stalls fast due to screen competition. That's a realistic ceiling unless some Black Swan event occurs. And again, USD conversion crushes potential.
>>281646386
>USA + Canada + EU + LATAM = easy 100M
You really SUCK ass at math, don't you, mutt?

It launches in September, where NFL Saturday and Sundays suck up attention. Monday Night Football is also a thing, as is Thursday Night Football. So that means a 4-day streak of football from Thursday to Monday. It's also competing with The Conjuring that has the novelty of being a finale unlike Infinity Castle and Him, a football horror movie that drops in football season directed by Jordan Peele and America loves Jordan Peele and they also love football.

Prediction: $25M-$30M-ish if hyped hard enough. Anime is historically frontloaded in the US, and this is releasing in a limited run, with a 2h35m runtime, meaning it won't last for long in theaters AND it'll get fewer screenings and even still, the 2h35m runtime will still cut its screenings to 3-4/day.

How do you misunderstand fucking demon slayer of all things.

>>281641457
She said in the latest arc that she might have to kill some of the shadow warriors.

>>281641101 (OP)
Good thing I dropped that shit.

Frieren genuinely doesn't have writing better than this for its demons.
Muzan actually nails it.

>>281648488
Genuinely excellent villain speech.
>Yeah, I killed your family but you're still alive.
>Why are you wasting it trying to fight me?
The absolute gall to compare himself to natural disasters.

>>281648638
>WHY ARE THEY TRYING TO KILL ME?
>ARE THEY FUCKING CRAZY OR WHAT?
>MY DEMONS ARE MORE NORMAL THAN YOU, FUCK YOU
Despite how shit his fight is (praying ufo fixes it hard), he's a genuine piece of shit villain that is super fun to hate.

>>281647915
>Now, it's,
No, now it's
>300 million easy, worldwide
since you were the one who said it wouldn't reach it without china.
Being at 44 million on thursday+20 million weekend in korea+assume an extra 10 million from everywhere else=75 million overseas by monday. And it's not done yet, so, yes, 100 million from SEA+korea is realistic at this point.
>Prediction: $25M-$30M-ish if hyped hard enough.
It's at 10 million in presales alone, jeremy, it's going to FAR outdo MT. FAR, FAR outdo it just like it's doing in every market.
> That's a realistic ceiling unless some Black Swan event occurs. And again, USD conversion crushes potential.
400 million run is coming Jeremy, you can't hide from it. 200 million overseas is going to happen, with USA pulling amazing numbers.

>>281648822
And by the way, you don't understand audience overlap.
The people into kimetsu don't watch NFL, or the conjuring, they want and will watch kimetsu, above everything else, because it's an event.
Just like you said it wouldn't reach 30 billion (200 million) in japan alone, yet it's like a week and a half from reaching that goal, it's going to fucking end august with that goal borderline accomplished.
And that was your super defended ww total mind you.

>>281641457
Frieren would curb stomp a human without a second thought if she felt she had to.

>>281648969
Yeah, shame we'll never see her killing another human, because that'd look bad.

>>281647361
The game makes him look even more untouchable.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WpsfqYkqTvo&pp=0gcJCf8Ao7VqN5tD

>>281648969
Only if she had to. She makes it clear that she’d do all she can to avoid it. Want to know why Aura’s troops were all empty armor even though her magic had nothing to do with controlling pieces of metal? Because there couldn’t even be the APPEARANCE of Frieren being aggressive towards humans, and she still had to go out of her way not to harm the armors because the IMPLICATION was still there that they represented humans. She’d have to be seriously up against a wall to consider killing a human. Since she’s from an isekai world her power level is so far above that of KnY she’d basically be a god, there’s no way she’d have to resort to deadly force.

>>281648822
You stupid ass third world Spic downing copium smoothies with extra denial sauce. Your logic is spiraling faster than a shounen power-up montage, and every time I hit him with data or reality, you move the goalposts, throws around "muh pre-sale hype" like it's gospel, and dodges fundamentals of the global box office game. You also CLEARLY don't live in the US or has ever set foot in that country, and it shows.
>Being at 44 million on thursday+20 million weekend...
So we've gone from "might get 250" to "300 is the ceiling" to "400 is coming" in like two weeks. You're moving goalposts like it's an Olympic sport. I'd be clear with your retarded third world ass since you DIDN'T understand it the first time. Right now, Infinity Castle has earned $180M in Japan and its daily earnings has slowed down since Obon ended and took a nosedive.
>Aug 16 (final day of Obon): ¥658M
>Aug 17: ¥580M
>Aug 18: ¥322M
>Aug 19: ¥226M
>Aug 20: ¥293M
>Aug 21: ¥213M
That's not a path to $200M by the end of August, that's a sign of decline, it went from ¥658M/day to ¥213M which is a 66% drop. Even from August 18 (¥322M) to August 19 (¥226M) is a 30% drop in a single day. Holiday boosts (Marine Day and Obon) carried its ass from hell to back.
>Japan: $181M
>Taiwan: $13M
>Korea: circa $9.5M
>SEA + Taiwan + HK: $29M
>China: Dead on Arrival
Total; $280M tops. If we now add South Korea ($9.5M) to the total, it'd be $219.65 tops. And if we add the US/Canada ($25M-$30M) and Europe/LATAM ($15M-$20M) then it would be around $250M or $260M, in other words, Film Red numbers but slightly above. So no, this is not a "400 million run" unless a UFO drops money onto Toho's lap. There's no path to $400M without a China release, a surprise US mainstream crossover or a massive awards-season leg-up, which is laughable.

>>281641101 (OP)
No character in KnY ever hesitated to kill a demon except Giyu and it wasn't out of compassion
I didn't finish reading your post but judging from your filename and full spelling of titles I will have to assume you're a xitter tourist and didn't intend to set off Jeremy

>>281641101 (OP)
Nigga what the fuck are you talking about, tanjiro has literally never spared a single demon EVER, two times he felt sympathetic towards them and it was after separating their heads from their bodies.
How are you going to criticize tanjiro for something he never did when he has such an autistic rage towards demons he triggered the big bad ptsd encounter with sword jesus.

>>281645392
Reminder that piccolo is not black because blacks don't wear turbans.

>>281648904
Like I said yesterday, you're a stupid ass third world Spic who thinks like a Japanese fanboy, a South American, an Asian from whatever shithole country you come from and assumes America's model functions like Japan's. Demon Slayer fans might not give a shit about the NFL, but theaters DO give a shit. It's not about WHO watches what. It’s about WHO fills more seats, WHICH films get more showtimes and WHICH movies make more revenue per screen.

The Conjuring is a mainstream horror franchise that appeals to teens, adults, and couples, not just anime nerds. It has mass market draw. The NFL draws 20-25 million people EVERY Sunday. That's eyeballs not watching anime. Doesn't matter if Demon Slayer nerds aren't watching football, theaters want to sell tickets, and when half the country is glued to a screen at home, weekend walk-ins drop hard and runtime matters. Again, 2h35m means fewer showtimes, slower theater turnover and LESS revenue per screen. Theaters will favor shorter, faster-selling movies with broader appeal, period. You're in the American market now, not Japan. Act like it.
>it's an event.
You know what else was an "event", you piece of shit? Jujutsu Kaisen 0 and fell off fast in the US. One Piece Film Red, loud fandom, then gone. Even Mugen Train had a huge open, then vanished in Week 2. So did Broly for that matter. These were all "events" too, for ANIME FANS. But event status inside a fandom =/= long box office run.
>it's going to fucking end august with that goal borderline accomplished
Yep. And that's par for the course with a franchise that has a strong core market in its home country. Japan has few screens (around 3,000+ only), low competition for anime, and long theatrical legs. Theaters let anime stay for weeks and weeks if the film keeps selling.

US theaters? By comparison, they have 40,000+ screens and give you 7-10 days, then you're replaced by the next Blumhouse flick unless you're Top Gun: Maverick or Barbie.

>>281649911
>Indian or Arab
That's even worse.

>>281648488
Nobody seeks revenge against natural disasters because they're literally forces of nature. No thought occurs, and there's not even a mind behind a volcano erupting or a landslide obliterating a village. Demons can LITERALLY be spoken with. They have minds, feelings, and can be killed, which means there's a chance to stop someone else from going through the pain of losing a loved one or actually avenging their deaths. Genuinely the dumbest fucking shit I have ever read. You really think THIS is good? Be serious.

>>281649697
>Total; $280M tops.
Mixed up and was meant to say $219.5M.
>>281649911
Actually, they did. Especially back in the Mali Empire. Still, Piccolo isn't black and nobody unironically thinks he is.

>>281648488
Muzan nails it because he can here. Frieren would just "Shut up demon. *zoltraak*" in the middle of his sentence.

>>281641101 (OP)
Posted the bait again award

>>281641101 (OP)
You haven't actually read the series if you think this is Tanjirou's mentality
The fact that the screenshot showing Tanjirou crying is actually him broken up over a human dyin, and right after seething and shouting at a demon for like two minutes straight, is proof in and of itself
>>281649697
>>281649947
>>281650040
Your escalating cope will be documented in the archives
Thank you

>>281650024
>Genuinely the dumbest fucking shit I have ever read. You really think THIS is good? Be serious.
If you can't understand the villain is that deluded with himself or, with context, a desperate attempt to gaslight everyone else since this is him backed up against the corner, then I don't know what to tell you.

>>281650024
Damn ti's almost like Muzan is implying that his mind and feelings can't be changed and that he can't be killed you fucking moron

>>281650073
She wouldn't Zoltraak him unless she absolutely had to. She'd imprison him and look for a cure to the curse first. She's a member of the Hero Himmel's party, deadly force against humans is her last resort and Muzan can't threaten her in any meaningful way in a fight.

>>281644777
>On the reverse side, characters who are 100 percent virtuous can come across as fake and unlikable.
Araki is right and I feel like it captures what makes Tanjiro so infuriating to some viewers: he's so clean, so perfectly manufactured, that he stops being a character and starts being a walking TED talk on kindness. He doesn't have flaws, he has obstacles. And even those are designed to make him look better. Araki's entire quote lays out a clear checklist for compelling character motivation.
>The motivation should trigger curiosity.
Which DS fails at. Tanjiro's motivation (save sister, kill demons) is delivered in chapter 1 and never evolves. There's no dramatic tension in why he acts, only how much he cries doing it.
>Readers empathize with morally complex characters when written skillfully.
True. Light Yagami is morally abhorrent but electrifying to watch while Tanjiro is morally pure but predictable to a fault.
>100% virtue doesn't mean likability.
Also true. Tanjiro fails this HARD. Even his anger is sanitized, like a toddler being mad because his teddy bear fell off the bed. There's no internal friction. No selfish moment. Nothing that feels human.
>Include weaknesses or human desires.
Which DS also fails at. Tanjiro doesn't have those. His wants = justice, love, peace, and to protect people. Which I don't count as a character, that's just a wish list on a kindergarten classroom wall.
>Don’t make your character gutless or stupid.
Tanjiro is at least brave. But again, the story is built so he never really pays for his failures. The worst that happens is he gets a cool scar upgrade and more sympathy.

The author is a coward who played it safe and is too afraid to give Tanjiro flaws, too afraid to actuaoly challenge his morals, too afraid to explore real ambiguity and too afraid to let the story punch the reader in the gut without a moral safety net.

>>281650141
Well if you go technical and call Muzan a cursed human then yes. Not fun tho.

>>281641101 (OP)
They're beta males yeah I understand why they annoy you.

>>281650116
>>281650140
>the villain is fine because he's retarded and a liar
lol

>>281641101 (OP)
This is so accurate it's crazy.

>>281641101 (OP)
>>281641143
The difference is that Tanjiro forgives good demons, Frieren wouldn't.

>>281641811
I read the manga years ago it's fine.
I think it's one of those cases where I feel like it's genuinely one of the most normalfag friendly manga out there but unlike say BNHA it never felt annoying

>>281650299
False on both accounts. If a Mazoku won't attack first, Frieren has no choice but to let them go due to moral law. If an Oni bowed his head to Tanjiro and begged for mercy he'd be compelled to grant it due to moral law. Oh, and the entire reason why Frieren suppresses her mana is to make sure a Mazoku would never run or beg for mercy, the point is to grant moral cover to kill them.

>>281650098
You keep saying "ur cope is archived!!" but all you really did was save a screenshot of me being right (look up Wayback Machine, nigger). Thanks for preserving the receipts, for my side. You misquoted me, misunderstood exchange rates, ignored context, and tried to dunk on someone using data you didn't even read. All you did was prove you're retarded, a third worlder and more interested in winning a comment war than understanding how box office works. If it makes you feel better to yell copium while Infinity Castle stalls out under Mugen Train and gets booted from US theaters after a few couple of weeks, go ahead. I'll just keep posting facts while you argue against math.

>>281650485
You are literally objectively wrong in everything you stated there which is why you stopped responding to that thread and now you're "newly" shitting yourself back here
How much do you think Infinity Castle will make worldwide? Put a number on it right now. It already effortlessly murdered your Japan predictions by crossing 20B with zero effort (before Obon) so keep that in mind

>>281650595
He already said less than 220m worldwide btw.
120 million in japan, 100 overseas at most for a grand total of 200-220million, and those were his final numbers (it'll be well above this by the end of the WEEK)

>>281650595
You’re asking me to "put a number on it" while ignoring every number I've already given and every receipt I've already linked. Infinity Castle crossed ¥20B during the Obon lead-in, not before it. You clearly don't understand how Obon actually affects Japanese cinema trends, and you're throwing around phrases like "objectively wrong" while you misrepresent both calendars and numbers. Aug 9 wasn't an official red calendar public holiday, but this is Japan and Obon is not one day. It's a cultural week-long event. And Friday, Aug 9, was the start of the surge. Why? Because MANY offices and schools close early or entirely, mass travel begins as well as the Obon rush and it's the Friday launching the Obon weekend. Box office patterns reflect it clearly across multiple films, not just Demon Slayer. This is a country where cultural timing trumps technical holiday status. You're arguing like a dumbass Westerner looking at Japanese market behavior like it's Kansas.

I didn't stop responding because I had nothing to say, I gave you verifiable sources from Box Office Mojo and the Wayback Machine (get fucked nigger lol). You just refused to read them. That's not me dodging, that's you coping.

>>281650741
>because I had nothing to say,
There are two people shitting on you in that screenshot and I am neither of them. You can't respond to them because you know your 2020 USD to 2025 yen math is indefensibly retarded and GPT cannot bullshit you out of this anymore
And 220M? >>281650655 is that your prediction?
Please confirm your prediction, I'm sure even you realize that's not a realistic answer at this point

>>281650655
Box office projections aren't static, dickhead. They shift based on real-time data, release timing, market performance, and competition. When I said $200-220M, that was based on then-current trends, with Japan barely crossing ¥20B (thanks to Obon btw) and SEA just starting to roll out. I also said it could do $250M if the legs were strong. And guess what? It still hasn't passed $300M.

Infinity Castle benefited from two holiday boosts (Marine Day and Obon), and outside of Japan, its earnings come from smaller currencies meaning global USD totals don't scale as much as they appear. If you think I was 'wrong' for adjusting my projection with better data like any sane person would, then you're not arguing in good faith. You're just flailing around and coping.

>>281650098
>Even reddit is clowning on him

>>281650840
>my highest prediction was 250M and guess what? It still hasn't passed 300M
LMAO

>>281650840
Yeah jeremy, you can adjust your predictions ad infinitum.
Nothing changes anyone can check the archive and see you were really fucking smug about your 220 million tops prediction just last week.
And now you are moving goalposts, again, because you were wrong.
Guess what? It's going to top 250million this WEEKEND and it'll be at around 300 million before it even reaches USA and Europe. Something you said it'd need fucking china to reach.
Just admit, for fucking once, that you were wrong, instead of another
>I didn't read the chart wrong, the one making it is to blame!
or
>I totally didn't fuck up yen conversion

>>281650933
Box Office Mojo puts it at just over $200m is that out of date?

>>281650830
You keep obsessing over literal yen denominations while ignoring the actual pacing. I used Box Office Mojo's 2020 archived figures as context for USD-JOY estimates. On Oct 21, 2020, BOM reported $223M at Day 31. Using 2020's exchange rate (~¥135), that's ¥30B. I even cited the exact archive. It's not about retro-conversion using 2025 rates. It's about WHAT the industry reported at the time. Your whole argument hinges on pretending I used a 2025 rate retroactively, which is just false. If anything, I used 2020's rate for a 2020 box office report. You’re trying to 'gotcha' me based on technicalities when the actual pacing still supports my claim: Infinity Castle is still behind Mugen Train’s pace even with Obon boosts, yen devaluation, and no real competition in Japan right now.

And, yes, I predicted $200-220M early. That was based on pre-Obon trends. Then Obon and Marine Day inflated numbers. Like any reasonable person, I updated my outlook based on evolving data. That’s not "f-loundering", that's how tracking works you dumbass nigger. You'd know that if you weren't trying to play Reddit lawyer with outdated receipts and personal projections.

The funny part? You're acting smug when the movie hasn't even hit $300M yet and won't touch $500M without China. Mugen Train did that without the US being huge. You should calm down before claiming victory mid-race.
>>281650867
I don't give a FUCK about what some losers on Reddit have to say, just like I don't give a FUCK about your third world Spic ass. Lmao. Reddit thought Lilo and Stitch would flop and they were wrong. Reddit tried to chase some Boston shooter and ruined some guy's life. You're an insecure underage who wants to try to fit in.

>>281650985
>t.

This thread is infested with TRAMPS

>>281650985
$223M does not translate to ¥30B at a 2020 exchange rate, it translates to ¥23.3B. You never said anything about a Day 31, you said that Mugen Train passed ¥30B by Day 22-24. Which it did not in either 2020 nor 2025 rates. There is 0 context being missed here, everyone can read through the entire thread.

>>281650985
I noticed you never gave a prediction
What's the matter? Scared after the movie made you look like a little bitch once already?

>>281641173
He also spared the doctor demon lady and her simp.

>>281641101 (OP)
My only problem with Demon Slayer is the retarded breathing magic.
The whole point was supposed to be that Demons have unnatural powers humans can't contend with.
But apparently they just needed to breathe harder.

If you are alluding to Shonen Jump’s worst works, then, indeed, I dislike intensely Demon Slayer and the ghastly One Piece rigmarole. No, I do not object to soul-searching and self-revelation, but in those games the soul, and the sins, and the sentimentality, and the journalese, hardly warrant the tedious and muddled search.

>>281651225
They still cant contend with demons. Breathing harder gives them a boost but they cant regenerate limbs and have a stamina limit. Marks are literal magic though.

>>281651225
>The whole point was supposed to be that Demons have unnatural powers humans can't contend with.
They still do lol. A very common scenario in the fights is that both sides trade blows but demons literally just regen their parts back while the DS retains damage.

>>281650933
So let me get this straight, you think "being wrong" is adjusting a projection based on real-time performance, like literally every box office analyst on the planet does? Yes, motherfucker. I initially said $200'220M. That was based on pre-Obon pacing, weak currency conversions, limited international rollout, and standard anime drop-off trends. Then the movie got two holiday boosts and then some extra in SEA. So I updated. That's called analysis, not "m-moving goalposts!" It's only a problem if you're trying to pin people to week-old quotes like you're running a tabloid instead of a grown-up discussion.

Also, yes. I said it would need China to hit $300M, of which it won't release. So far, Infinity Castle has earned
>Japan
$181M
>Taiwan
$13M
>Hong Kong
$3.55M
>Thailand
$3.2M
>Indonesia
$3.6M
>Malaysia
$3.3M
>Vietnam
$2.5M
Total: $210M. Asuming South Korea rakes in $9M for OW, that's $219M. Still far away from $300M and close in home to what I predicted, it'll do Film Red numbers (slightly better). And unlike you, I actually factor in trends, not just hype tweets and presale fanboy fuel.

You can keep quoting archives like they're courtroom exhibits, nigger. I'll keep tracking actual data. And when this thing crashes out by mid-September, you'll be the one coping with your "$500M worldwide no China" delusion.

>>281651416
Overseas hit 44 million today.
Korea is projecting, at least, a 20 million weekend.
It's legitimately looking at a 260 million end of the week, which puts it far higher from your preditions.
And there's a point your
>adjusting
stops working because you are so damn smug about every single one of your predictions every time you "adjust" them it just feels like a massive cope.
Again, it's going to hit 290-300 million before septemer 11th.

>>281644708
there is something wrong with Emma

>>281651077
You can post MHA all you want, I don't care about it outside of the porn. Lmao.
>>281651138
No I didn't, you lying faggot. But I wouldn't expect any less from a JJKike with a fanbase that has a loose butthole after repeatedly being sodomized by that homosexual hack, Gege.
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/Mugen%20Day%2024/
You're clinging to a literal exchange number when the actual point was a historical pace comparison based on reported box office figures at the time.

Box Office Mojo had $223M by Day 31, which, using the 2020 exchange rate of ¥135/USD at the time, lined up with a rough ¥30B. That wasn't some magical "Day 24" milestone I invented. It was a shorthand to say: Infinity Castle is trailing Mugen Train's trajectory even WITH inflation, favorable scheduling, and holiday boosts. And guess what, motherfucker? BOM's archived data backs that. Wayback Machine backs that. You're just spinning semantics trying to score points from your little gay-ass Discord friends because you lost the broader narrative.

You want to play "gotcha" over Day 24 vs Day 31? OK. I'll be over here talking about actual market behavior and trajectory pacing. Grow the fuck up.

>>281641101 (OP)
>Stop! Demons have hearts too!
>Says this after chopping their heads off

The guy that got arrested for the phone recording of infinity castle is a korean, lol

>>281641101 (OP)
Go watch Tokyo Revengers if you want to see pathetic MCs from popular series. The MC will make Denku look like Kenshiro

>"No you don't understand he gets better..."
No amount of character redemption can fix a 20 something year old who still acts like a child, goes back in time to fix his and someone else's life, does nothing but cry and get beat up, and forgets the life changing shit he was suppose to prevent. I'll never understand why this shit was so popular other than fujos.

>>281646514
Pic related explained it perfectly.

>>281651225
The mangaka isn’t nearly talented enough to pull that concept off. It was always inevitably going to result in asspulled magic powers like Breaths, Marks, special eyes, Transparent World, Red Blades, etc.

>>281641101 (OP)
>Tanjiro to Hantengu: "DON'T RUN AWAY! You must pay for your sins with your life!"
>fucking kills him shortly after
I know this is a Jeremy shitpost thread, but I just want put it out there for anyone who unironically takes anything he says at face value.

>>281652001
Jeremy has a 100% miss rate related to kimetsu, it's funny in its own way.

>>281651927
>Vagabond shitposter
>ESL
Dismissed. I'm not listening to some faggot who uses a battle shounen in disguise that does Eiji Yoshikawa's epic a great disservice as reaction image.

>>281651927
>rooted in an emotional response to its popularity
yeah that's pretty much it
even if it was "deep" or "intellectual" or whatever autists would still obsessively hate it because they think hating something popular makes them appear more intelligent (it doesn't)

>>281651553
Holy kek you fucking retard I just copied and pasted the leddit post. The fact that you didn't recognize it means you are either brainlessly pasting shit into GPT to do your arguing for you or you are so assblasted you couldn't bear to look at your humiliation any further

>>281651473
You dumbass third world monkey. You're acting like this is some kind of courtroom drama where you're trying to catch someone in a "gotcha" over estimates that LITERALLY everyone updates based on market performance. That's how forecasting works. Your problem is you confuse analysis with fanboy wishcasting.

I'd break this down to your Spic ass since you DIDN'T get it the first time. And this time, WITH ACTUAL data and not fluff headlines. International total is $44M according to Pinkvilla, which includes South Korea's projected $20M before the first showtime has even rolled (it's currently 7 AM in South Korea). That means actual foreign earnings outsidre of Japan are $29M, not $44M. The rest is just modeled projection. Add Japan's $181M, and we're at ~$210M confirmed. That's in line with my earlier projection of $200z220M when accounting for what’s actually out.

And about your 'adjusting is coping' take? No, what’s coping is posting early morning presale hype and pretending it's real box office. Come back when South Korea's weekend receipts are in and theaters are actually open, you greasy third world autist.
>>281652090
I don't hate it because it's popular. I hate it because it's a badly written, shitty drawn manga that is a bad product that reads more like a storyboard for an anime studio to pick up than a product than can stand on its own merits. Which is why Torishima rightly called it out for not being as good as underages, fat ugly women and ESLs (like yourself) that makes up Demon Slayer's fanbase think it is. I like Dragon Ball, it's far more popular than Demon Slayer will ever be and the original manga is also a good product on its own merits. Toriyama didn't need Toei the way Gotouge needed Ufotable to save their ass while still being absolutely unable to draw in 3D.

>>281652244
So your projection is still 220M worldwide?

Imagine seething over an anime every single day, for years and years on end. I am so glad I am not cursed with such autism.

>>281652317
No, instead you're with being a third worlder instead, like the vast majority of the Latinx who makes up Demon Slayer's fanbase. You're beneath my feet, mutt.

And the second the anime ends, the franchise dies. It's just another Attack on Titan, but for toddlers.

>>281652244
So why seethe for 6 years and obsessively pray for it's downfall?

>>281652362
>Why do you hate a bad product for being a bad product and want that bad product to fuck off?
Geez, I wonder why.

>>281652377
Nothing you do will have any impact. No matter how much you scream or yell or throw tantrums, people will love Demon Slayer. Japan will love Demon Slayer. Your actions won't affect anything.

>>281652377
>>281652344
You lost so hard.

>>281652344
>No, instead you're with being a third worlder instead, like the vast majority of the Latinx who makes up Demon Slayer's fanbase. You're beneath my feet, mutt.
>
>And the second the anime ends, the franchise dies. It's just another Attack on Titan, but for toddlers.

>>281652377
For 6 years though? Just focus on what you do like instead of festering in the threads about it(which are rare).

>>281652244
>i-it only made $200 million, that's practically a flop you dumb shounenspic!!
lmao at your life

I skimmed through this thread and it just looks like some guy suffering from one of the biggest
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!
meltdowns I've ever seen. Why underageb& like him are still allowed here is a mystery to me.

>>281652344
MHA died before its anime ended, literally nobody gives a shit that its final season is broadcasting this year

>>281652417
I don't give a fuck about Japan. Lmao. They will continue to be a country of extraordinary terrible taste buds who'll elevate the most shoddily written, badly drawn slop. Japan rejected Shogun, the best jidaigeki in decades, because it wasn't "theirs." Hiroyuki Sanada, the finest Japanese actor of his generation, had to leave his own country to get serious roles because Johnny's shilled Takuya Kimura from hell to back that he ruled the Japanese film industry. Japanese filmmakers like Hirokazu Kore-eda has to make more films abroad to get the support he needs because anime has such a stranglehold on the Japanese film industry. Japan gave Suda51 a hard time that his studio was about to shut down from bankruptcy before the West saved him.
>>281652484
I don't care what you like, as long as you admit what you like is trash. But you niggers can't do that, can you?

>speed readers missing the fact that the mangaka ONLY had Tanjiro cry for a demon when the person was turned as a literal child
>arms demon
>spider mother
>Rui
those are the only
and I mean the only demons he cries over

>>281652436
>>281652503
Read this Spic.
>>281651553
>You can post MHA all you want, I don't care about it outside of the porn. Lmao.
I don't give a fuck about your ex-girlfrien (MHA) outside of her nudes.

>>281652550
>Read this Spic.
>You can post MHA all you want, I don't care about it outside of the porn. Lmao.
>I don't give a fuck about your ex-girlfrien (MHA) outside of her nudes.

>Demon Slayer just exploding in popularity
>Black Clover returning
>My Hero becoming a laughingstock
Jeremy can't stop catching Ls

>>281652518
Shut you mouth harlot

>>281652590
>Bait and switch
Like I said, monkey see, monkey do, Spics see, Spics do. I don't give a fuck about your ex-girlfriend MHA-chan the same way nobody gives a fuck about your medieval Naruto trash copycat Black Clover.

And Demon Slayer's popularity exploded all thanks to the anime and certainly NOT the shitty drawn manga as Torishima explained in his book (that you coped about).

I'd make a power move on you: popular slops comes and goes, my favorite series, Dragon Ball, will still outlive it when all is said and done and outlive everything you know and you love.

>>281652518
>Please say Kimetsu is trash! I cant sleep at night until you say it!
God you are pathetic

>>281652645
Shut the FUCK up and resume sucking Ufotable's cock like a good little slut, mutt.

>>281652668
>still unable to provide a proper source beyond some twitter translation
>same way he can't provide a source for those 450 million copies beyond his delusions

>>281648435
>She said in the latest arc that she might have to kill some of the shadow warriors.
Yet she hasn't and she won't. Curious.

he kills all the demons tho
he only gets sad at the end when he thinks about what they were like as humans
you didnt watch the show

>>281652688
>Shut the FUCK up and resume sucking Ufotable's cock like a good little slut, mutt.

>avatarfagging as some old Japanese manga editor (who would most likely tell him to stop being such a fucking loser if he ever met him IRL)
Yikes.

>>281652683
Correct. I can say the things I love is trash, can you admit the same thing for the slop you love, nigger?
>>281652692
Get fucked, nigger. Lol. From Wikipedia (who are VERY careful about their sources btw). Imagine being a genuine retard who thinks an evergreen like Dragon Ball would discontinue for 17 years (last time the 350M wad recorded) and stop selling lmao.
>>281652717
I hate Wan Piss too, so seeing Kekffy cry is a pleasure in itself too.
>>281652730
Still better than avatarfagging as some shitty drawn Naruto reject from DeviantArt, lmao. And Torishima would likely tell the Demon Slayer hack:
>Your manga art is trash and your fights are incomprehensible. Read Dragon Ball and draw your fights like THIS.
Which he already did.

Undefeated!

>>281652344
Blessed LATAM I guess

>>281652832
>couldn't defeat one stupid girl
funny.

>>281652873
>nyanyanyanyanya on every swing
Not sure if its kino.

>>281652798
Kimetsu isnt perfect but I dont believe its trash. It stuck to its premise throughout and didnt throw in complete 180 subversions that ended up souring the whole thing and ended once the goal was reached. Ive seen trash and Kimetsu isnt it. Can YOU accept that people arent going to hold the same opinion as you?

>>281652918
>Can YOU accept that people arent going to hold the same opinion as you?
Obviously he can't considering he's been malding about it for six years now.

>>281652873
He's the only demon that remained untouched. Not a single scratch was lain upon him.

>>281641101 (OP)
It's not just the crybaby shit. I can't stand how he's so cheery. It makes even less sense for him compared to other shounen MC's.
>Goku's a retard
>Naruto's always been cheery and he's also a retard
>Luffy is a retarded retard with retardation.
>Gon hides the pain, but he's a retard.
>Deku is an autistic retard.
Even retards can be fun from their own antics or being foils for other characters. The silly & cheerful thing can work too if there's a reason. Gon has a warped sense of morality and is open about 90% of his feelings while repressing the rest.
Tanjiro isn't really much of anything. He has the trauma thing going, but it only shows when it's needed for plot purposes. You don't just spring back from shit like that unless it's an act or you've been practicing it for most of your life (see Vash the Stampede). Otherwise, it's insanely lazy and contrived.

>>281653020
>You don't just spring back from shit like that unless it's an act or you've been practicing it for most of your life
He has a mission and his sister is alive.
He himself agrees it'd be way different if nezuko had died too.

>>281641101 (OP)
Demons in KnY are humans who were infected and lost their mind. Only 3 cases of demons mantaining a semblance of humanity exist, and in the case of his sister, she was VERY close to becoming a raging animal more than once.
All of them used to have normal lives before, some of them straight up go to heaven after death because if they only committed their crimes after being turned, they cannot be held responsible for their actions.
If they could be healed easily, it would be worth trying to save them all


Frieren demons are predators. They have no relation to humans beyond humans being their prey. They are born evil and will die evil, everything they do is for a nefarious goal. They feign being reasonable or defensless merely for survival, but they are an invasive dangerous species that cannot be redeemed.

So of course, the two protagonists treat them differently.

>>281641101 (OP)
>watch movie more like skip most of it since it was dogshit
>tanjiro is STILL a little bitch boy watching other people fight
why not just make somebody else the main character if this guy is going to be a little time wasting pussy who spares demons the whole manga?

>>281653117
Can you at least put more effort into your shitposts? This is embarrassing.

>>281651173
Demon doctor lady had only ever eaten like one person and by the time Tanjiro met her, she hadn't eaten humans for centuries and was actively working for the demon slayers. Even then she's still implied to have to go to hell after she dies. Her simp has never eaten a human.

>>281653117
Come on anon, you can at least try. Tanjiro kills Akaza while Giyu has done nothing but try and stall. It's actually pretty funny how he had to hold him off 1v1 after Giyu gets kicked away for 10 minutes.

Hello anon!

>>281644449
Daki and Gyuutaro are literally presented as foils to Tanjiro and Nezuko and their genuine love for each other is their sole remaining bit of their humanity. Daki had the opportunity to avoid hell (because she was an actual child when she got turned against her will) but still chose to follow her brother into hell, and Muzan bluntly states that Gyuutaro would be a much stronger demon if he didn't lug Daki around.

>>281644189
Tanjiro never cried for a demon

>>281653264
Hello

>>281650024
>Nobody seeks revenge against natural disasters because they're literally forces of nature
That's the point anon, Muzan is comparing himself to a force of nature, an absolute natural law that can't be defied. All the other major demons they'd fought so far had something linking them to their humanity but Muzan has absolutely none, he's so disconnected from it that he genuinely can't comprehend why anyone would be mad at him.

>>281653130
It's my honest opinion. Not everybody is some schizo from your fanboy general and actually those retards just parrot real negative opinions as fuel to be mentally insane.
>>281653176
Akaza kills himself you dip. What a painfully stupid fight.

>>281653020
Tanjiro is also a retard, specifically a country bumpkin raised away from civilization in a family blessed by Sword Jesus for their kindness

>>281651225
Honestly even with all the breathing magic one of the main principles is that the demon slayers still can barely compete with demons. The only UM who gets outright soloed is UM5 (Kaigaku doesn't count) and the fight against Gyokko and Hantengu is the only UM fight without major career-ending injuries or multiple outright deaths. Every fight is a slugfest where multiple demon slayers and hashira team up on one or two major demons.

>>281653502
Douma went out like a ridiculous chump. Clearly a case of the plot needing him to die but not having characters left with which to do it so Douma had to be nerfed like crazy and get taken out by a goofy plot device.

>>281653759
>seething womanlet uses his retardation and poisons him to death

>>281653759
Let's be honest here, Gyomei could've just ran through the entire gauntlet and then just stop at Kokushibo. The other guys needed something else to do.

>>281651173
doctor demon lady is actively working towards killing the big bad ever since mc and co met her, for the last however many decades or centuries. There is no need to apply morality when you can just look at it like enemy of enemy is my friend, or using a weapon if you don't humanise them.

>>281641232
Frieren is shonen slop.

>>281653820
Yeah I don't really get it either. It's like the Hunter X Hunter meme where people pretend that it's some deep cerebral mature show. It's like you can still like something without it being "deep" and "mature" or whatever

>>281641101 (OP)
I think you completely missed the point. His argument is that demons HAD hearts. He's sad because the human they once were is gone, but has absolutely no problem putting the demons in the ground.

>>281654002
You're responding to a disingenuous shitposter thread.

>>281642438
Exactly. He's basically like "Bro, it sucks that you had a shit life and became a demon, but you still gotta die."

>>281643562
By your own "logic", Tanjirou would kill any demon on sight. He never waits for a demon to do anything in his show either. It's basically on sight with any demon.

>>281641411
>>281644708
>>281651521
emma is the fucking best.

>>281648638
>>281648671
>>281648488
Personally I think hes right, its just that hes so right it loops back around and kicks him in the ass, because he ends up being unstoppable in power and survivability. so how does he die in the end? the sun kills him, and he cries and dies like a bitch.

>>281650040
>Piccolo isn't black and nobody unironically thinks he is
I assure you some do, though I remember when I was in school all the black kids seemed to lean towards Buu. Specifically Kid Buu.

>>281650299
The only good demon is one who never comes out of his stinking hole.

>>281654732
>black kids leaned towards the violent, loud, and mindless monster

>>281641101 (OP)
Tanjiro understand demon and save them trough death. Btw are different kind of demons

>>281653502
>>281651225
If demons cant get into the sunlight without baking to death I have to say thats an enormous disadvantage for mitochondrea. the fact that humans can breath, get sunlight into their mitchondria, and do burst movement is pretty big.

>>281654072
This is not how moral cover works. For a protagonist to fight with an enemy, the antagonist has to first do something to "deserve" it on-panel in the same scene. That’s why Frieren let herself be tackled and thrown in jail even though she could have wiped out those three demons on the spot — they were being peaceful at that moment because they were on a diplomatic mission, therefore Frieren had no choice but to wait for them to attack first. In a similar situation it would be NO different with Tanjiro, just like it was no different with Nezuko during her trial. The Hashira simply could NOT kill her until she did something. That’s why whenever a demon appears in KnY they are either slaughtering innocent people in fountains of blood comicbook villain style or they are attacking the protagonists.

>>281648488
This zenith of hubris can only be matched by neocons IRL and their minion associates, all of the defenders of this are just like that

>>281649947
What a bunch of retarded and hominems, you only know how to insult people when things don't go your way.
>And that's par for the course with a franchise that has a strong core market in its home country.
Mind you, according to yourself it was impossible without china, and now it doesn't need its biggest markets, per your own admission.

>>281654951
>muh neocons
>muh demonrats
being the toadies of irl moloch wannabes is hardly the zenith of hubris.

>>281654996
They are one entity now

>>281655126
>now
(((they))) always were.

>>281641811
it's about as bog standard of a shounen as you can possibly get

>>281646162
Things have gotten... complicated.

>>281655643
which isn't a bad thing btw
not everything needs to be groundbreaking

>>281645434
>Chooses to die because he looked a little fugly
Honestly, fair

>>281649947
NTA but you're genuinely a monster level retard posting all this shit about BO when you clearly know nothing about film as a market. The ONLY movie coming out near Kimetsu is the Conjuring 4, a franchise that's on shaky ground due to multiple underperformances and bad films prior to it.
Horror also is, in general, a dangerous genre to play around with: I have no clue where you're pulling the 'mainstream' appeal of horror from, because it's an extremely niche genre that casual audiences don't give an iota of a fuck about.
Here's the reality you don't seem to want to hear: there is, quite literally, NOTHING coming out in September. Conjuring is the only relevant film, I cannot believe you're trying to larp that anything possibly competes with Kimetsu in September. Half of the releases in that month are rereleases of movies from 20 fucking years ago.
And before you call me a fanboy, I think KnY is a middling shonen at best largely carried by the poor offerings in SJ and on TV at the time.

>>281641143
What are you actually fucking talking about you fucking moron

>>281641101 (OP)
me2

>>281641101 (OP)
fixed it

>>281641101 (OP)
Just stick with your CGDCT yuri show little bro.

>>281645045
serie sexo

>>281653264
H-hey..

>Some anime/manga related shit become popular
>Suddenly people shit on it like it commited a literal warcrime
I mean things like this happened before But somehow it become way, way worse the moment Chinese and Korean shilling become more rampant here

>>281657495
I vividly remember making posts about how Kimetsu wasn't all that special, even if only well executed.

>>281641166
he never thinks

>>281651927
>pic
retarded and wrong incel delusions

>>281652090
>yeah that's pretty much it
double digit IQ subhuman take

>>281648488
Literally reminds me of a good argument from Trigun where Vash and Knives (Seriously why the fuck did they name the kid Knives and NOT expect him to be fucked up?) are with Rem and a butterfly gets caught in a spiders web. Vash is worried for the Butterfly and Knives just kills the spider but Vash wanted both of them to live. Knives knew that was just naive thinking since it would essentially mean starving the spider to death which is far worse than simply killing it instantly and that saving only the butterfly and turning a blind eye to any other bug the spider catches is just hypocrisy.

Muzan's natural disaster comparison doesn't apply since a natural disaster doesn't choose it's victims and also has no control over it's action.

He would have a much better argument if he said "The beef used to make your lunch, did that cow not have children who loved her? If the cow in the field knew what you intended for it's children, would they not want you dead? We at least allow for your autonomy and don't keep you caged for our benefit and we even go out of our way to target undesirables. Do YOU go out of your way to only eat the undesirable animals? We can only eat humans and nothing else, do we deserve to die because it happens to be you we prey upon and not a weaker more defenseless animal?"

>>281641101 (OP)
Dogshit bait.

>>281641101 (OP)
This but with dagger eared freaks that betray.

>>281658807
This reminds me that in Trigun the humans were the demons and if Vash was seriously into self preservation or logic like his bro they'd be the only ones on the planet.

>>281641101 (OP)
based

>>281660106
more like humans are the beastmen and Vash is the superior being.
They're just lucky that Vash got imprinted/groomed by a member of their species.

>>281652668
But DBZ is shit?

>>281655823
Imagine calling horror 'niche' and then defending anime movies as if they’re mainstream in the US market. I'd run through actual industry facts since you're clearly LARPing as a market analyst. Horror is NOT niche, you dumbass. It's one of the most reliable, high-ROI genres in the US box office. Blumhouse and The Conjuring have raked in billions by making low-cost, high-reward films. Audiences show up because horror sells tickets, even bad ones. 'Niche' doesn't do $40M openings on shaky legs.

Infinity Castle opens Sep 12 in the US. That's one week after The Conjuring: Last Rites (Sep 5), which is projected to make $35-40M OW. If it gets solid WOM, it'll hold screens and dominate horror demand for weeks, especially leading into Halloween season (October). The week after Infinity Castle opens, it gets hit by:
>Him
A Jordan Peele-produced football horror on Sept 19, 1h36m runtime = high showtimes, genre synergy with NFL season, and domestic appeal (America loves Jordan Peele).
>A Big Bold Beautiful Journey
Also Sept 19, with Margot Robbie and Colin Farrell, a star-studded adult drama with prestige film potential and strong legs.
>One Battle After Another
Sep 26, featuring DiCaprio. Runtime be damned, this is prestige Oscar bait and it will absolutely eat IMAX and premium screen space, not some anime film catered to nerds. And you say nothing’s coming out in September? Lmfao. That's a stacked lineup, and most of it is shorter, broader, and higher-priority than some 2h35m anime film.

US theaters don't function like Japan. They don't coddle anime for weeks. Unless your name is Miyazaki, you get 7-10 days to prove your worth or you're out. Infinity Castle will be frontloaded, like every anime movie ever in history: Mugen Train, JJK0, Broly, Film Red, take your pick. Big OW, fast drop. Theaters don't give a fuck about Tanjiro's tears. They give a fuck about butts in seats per hour.

>>281660949
It's isekai

>>281657335
They're fags who can't handle testosterone. Their estrogen-riddled bitch bodies can only handle CGDCT.

>>281660949
DBZ anime is shit, yes. The manga is great until Freeza then becomes shit afterwards starting from the Android Saga. Still better than the slop that's out today.

>>281660994
>like every anime movie ever in history:
And despite being frontloaded it will still do far better than MT (like everywhere else), yes.
Someone is due a very rude awakening (again) in less than a month.

>>281651173
>and her simp.
They got married

>>281641143
>>281641101 (OP)
reminder he should have died in infinity castle.
Akaza won but killed himself because shonen protagonist asspulls

>>281661061
Nope. Frontloaded = weak legs. No matter how big the Opening, if it doesn't hold, it collapses hard by Week 2. The US is a completely different beast from Japan or SEA. We've seen this cycle before: huge anime OW, then cut by 60-70% by Week 2. Box office success isn’t just about numbers, it's about staying power. And when you're up against horror, Oscar bait, and NFL season, anime's legs snap like twigs.

Again, stop assuming the US has the same model as Japan, stop thinking like a Japanese fanboy and start to think like an American in the American market.

>>281661134
But you said the same thing about Japan... Do you even know how box office works beyond your hate boner for kimetsu?
No need to reply to that, your maths and forecasts show you don't.

I find Demon Slayer interesting, because in another universe, it's a heavily censored 52 episode anime with crappy visuals, and totally forgotten. Animated by like, JC Staff, or A1. I know some people will jump on me for saying the anime has good visuals at all, but for the quality of the material? Yeah, it fucking does. And for no particular reason.

>>281661274
The anime has uneniably good visuals and forced companies adapting shonen to start delivering.
>And for no particular reason.
The producer saw its potential, nothing else.

>>281661245
>But you said the same thing about Japan
Yup, and I've literally already acknowledged that my earlier assumptions about Japan were incorrect because I expected them to follow US market logic. They don't. Japan has 3,000+ screens, slower turnover, and gives films longer legs, especially anime. That's a market with breathing room.

The US, by contrast, has 40,000+ screens, a brutal weekly cycle, and zero patience for slow-burners unless you’re Christopher Nolan or James Cameron. Anime movies in America are not leggy, they are entirely fan-driven, frontloaded, and weekend-heavy. That's not even an insult, that's a well-documented pattern.

So no, I'm not 'just hating Kimetsu' (even though I dislikenir). I'm describing how theater economics work.
>Runtime affects showtimes
>NFL kills casual foot traffic on weekends
>September is stacked with mid-budget films with broader appeal and faster turnover
If you’re still pretending the US behaves like Japan or that Kimetsu is immune to market gravity, you're not making an argument, you're just fanboying like every anime nerd. I don't mind being wrong and correcting myself. You, on the other hand, seem allergic to nuance and box office reality.

>>281661245

>But you said the same thing about Japan
Yup, and I've literally already acknowledged that my earlier assumptions about Japan were incorrect because I expected them to follow US market logic. They don't. Japan has 3,000+ screens, slower turnover, and gives films longer legs, especially anime. That's a market with breathing room.

The US, by contrast, has 40,000+ screens, a brutal weekly cycle, and zero patience for slow-burners unless you’re Christopher Nolan or James Cameron. Anime movies in America are not leggy, they are entirely fan-driven, frontloaded, and weekend-heavy. That's not even an insult, that's a well-documented pattern.

So no, I'm not 'just hating Kimetsu' (even though I dislike it). I'm describing how theater economics work.
>Runtime affects showtimes
>NFL kills casual foot traffic on weekends
>September is stacked with mid-budget films with broader appeal and faster turnover
If you're still pretending the US behaves like Japan or that Kimetsu is immune to market gravity, you're not making an argument, you're just fanboying like every anime nerd. I don't mind being wrong and correcting myself. You, on the other hand, seem allergic to nuance and box office reality.

>>281651225
Isn't breathing their way of manually activating hysterical strength? (Drawing out 100% of a muscles power) It was never magic and the whole point of the flashy breathing effects was to make each slayer more visually unique. If you exclude characters with unique weapons (Shinobu, Gyomei, Mitsuri, etc) or abilities (Genya), basic demon slayers who just use a normal katana (Tanjiro, Rengoku, Giyuu, Sanemi, etc) are all borderline identical. The breathing effects just help better sell how each slayer has their own unique fighting style.

Practically speaking, the demons are still the ones with a near monopoly on genuine "magic" in the story. The demon slayers are more comparable to vampire hunters, needing to use special equipment like nichirin (Silver) or wisteria (Garlic) to kill demons (Vampires). Not saying that breathing is realistic, but it's just amplifying natural human abilities instead of defying logic like demon blood arts do. Obviously that results in some ridiculous physical feats impossible for a human IRL, but that's just standard shonen power scaling taking "peak human" to ridiculous heights. Look at MHA and all the characters who pull insane physical feats without physical enhancement quirks.

>>281661408
The west isn't used to wuxia like stuff.

The funniest thing about this dumb comparison is that they don't even use the same word in Japanese to describe the "demons" in these anime
Kimetsu no Yaiba uses 鬼 and Frieren uses 魔族. There's a huge world of difference between the connotations of these two terms that gets destroyed by the English translations

Existential threats exist on a level beyond questions of morality. Asking whether you should or shouldn't do something during a time of existential threat is nonsensical, you do something or you die.

>my elf with 1000 year Asperger’s is such a better character. She can’t understand emotions just like- wait

Are you sure about that?

>>281641143
He kind of did, and he specifically pussied out. Inosuke said to forget about the guy who stabbed him during Infinity Train but Tanjiro specifically said to save him.

>>281661083
so yeah, her simp. that's what he said.

>>281641101 (OP)
nonsensical thread by a retard

>>281661132
>each demond that got its head severed got the chance to remember his/her past life, which usually is constantly suppressed by Muzan’s cells
>the moment these cells are dying, even the most scumbag demon will briefly return to humanity before kicking the bucket.
>this has been a constant for the whole manga, where both akaza and koku being unable to survive beheading despite having the chance to (in a similar way to muzan) because they regained their humanity and guilt (unlike muzan who is so ass deep into his own retardness to the point he is completely detatched , aka the “i’m a force of nature” speech)
>HUR DUR IT WAS ASSPULL
How KnY’s haters fail to graps such a simple but clever manga never ceases to amaze me.
This manga is truly a filter for pretentious midwits and normies

>>281662529
>which usually is constantly suppressed by Muzan’s cells
Explain Nezuko

>>281647825
You can't pretend a piece of media to change your life. Sometimes you wont like things and that's okay, you don't need to sperg about it.

>>281662640
Nezuko never eat any human flesh

>>281651225
The thing that kilos demons it's the special sword metal. The breathing it's just so you get a chance to cut their heads.

>>281658807
demons in muzanland dont need to eat humans

>>281662640
Because muzan’s cells require human blood to completely take over.
Nezuko succeded starving herself , so she growth immune to his mind control to a huge degree. The cells inside her body never took control of her mind and she slowly developed resistence in the same way Tamayo did.
This is the reason why everyone tried to avoid DemonJiro to drink blood, it is confirmed that it is the point of not return .

Blood fuels the cells , the cells take over mind and body making the demon stronger but also increasing their thirst, the demon feeds more blood and rare blood = a loop where the demons became stronger while losing his/her mind the further he/she progress , with the Uppermoons, aka the demons which body got corrupted the most, barely being human anymore

>>281658807
Muzan doesn't need to eat, he just have a hunger for human flesh.Also the point is that Muzan is extremely delusional and think too highly of himself so he compare himself to god and nature disaster

>>281662529
The demon from the train movie, the fish and tree Upper Moon from the Swordsmith village arc and Zenitsu's senpai who became an Upper Moon didn't have any human sob story flashback as they died.

>>281662817
>the Uppermoons, aka the demons which body got corrupted the most, barely being human anymore
Doma is pretty much the same guy when he was a human and a demon, same with Kokushibo, unless you want to believe he was an unreliable narrator and actually loved his brother the whole time.
The only thing this applied to was Akaza, the others are scummy even back when they were a human and would kill other humans to survive/get stronger.

>>281662974
>and actually loved his brother the whole time.
It was more like self gaslighting and dementia.
We know he wasn't like that from yoriichi's flashbacks.

>>281641101 (OP)
i don't even like kny that much and even I know you're misrepresenting tanjiro with this image.

>>281655654
Incomprehensibly so. CLAMP multiversity level convoluted so.

>>281662927
Terrible people can become demon too you know.

>>281662927
Because even scumbags like Hantengu can become demons. Them not having a sad backstory doesn’t means they do not regain their humanity once they are beheaded.
They are still just human scum either too weak to think about regrowing their head or phisically unable to do so since their body is too weak
>>281662974
Again, just because some were scumbag or bad people even before turning into demons, doesn’t means they do not regain their humanity and human emotions like fears.
The sole one who could’ve managed to do that since more similar to Muzan would’ve been Douma, but he was too weakened by the poison (and very lazy) to be able to regenerate fully. And still even that detatchment was just cope and being lazy , so humans emotions altough negative ones.
Muzan instead was so deep into his ass to be detatched by every human feeling beside egocentrism and fear for his own death to the point he compared himself to a force of nature.

>>281651936
Most of those things are pushing the body to the limit and beyond out of pure rage/emotion. Stuff like the transparent world is just being aware of how muscles work + basic martial arts philosophy about chakra (to see without eyes and all that shit) The only one that is kinda out there is the red blades but that's is still "justified" as the metal getting hot or whatever. If anything Kimetsu makes the least use of "magic" compared to other shonen.

>>281641101 (OP)
>Uwahhhhh
>Male BAD
>Female GOOD

>>281663526
This is why we hate yurifags

>>281644777
>if your protagonist is in a tough situation because he blundered into it, your readers will judge the character as a fool and will only react with antipathy.
Boy I really really really wish more mangaka took note of this. (It's fine for comedy of course)

>>281644777
Araki is right but you aren't as this doesn't apply to Tanjiro at all. This is about Shinji Ikari.

>>281663697
But he's talking about jump manga, shinji is the lead in a fucked up psychological torture series.

>>281663546
15 years later and s/u/bhumans are still complaining that kirito was forced to have a doormat as a girlfriend

Great early reviews and numbers in worst Korea.
Will beat titanic in Japan this weekend.

>>281663710
Eva was published and marketed as a shonen for a while too until they made more shit up along the way. Araki talked about Eva in specific in the past and gave the same criticisms and some more.
To be honest the difference between shonen and seinen is not that big, look at CSM and the very own Death Note he mentioned here. Even Spy x Family has its fucked up moments.

Tanjiro:incel
Friren:chad

>>281663940
>married with a million kids at 16
>permavirgin

>>281641101 (OP)
One day, you will stop mentally being an edgy teenager.

>>281663050
Nah. The imagery is clear that half of his 6 eyes were crying was because actually half of him still loved his brother. It’s really bizarre that Koku is the ONLY demon written with this level of complexity but that’s down to this being a trashy paint-by-numbers shounen where the mangaka really only had a character concept for Koku, I guess because (s)he really wanted to do Kenshin.

>>281662184
I mean, if we look at the most classic and well documented work about elf life cycle ie LotR, at 1000+ years of age elves are either alcoholic, depressed or have PTSD from having to fight in so many wars, some of which were civil wars too.
Being autistic is a valid alternative.

>>281662817
This is a fanfiction, there is in fact no explanation for why Nezuko is Demon Jesus, she just is because she’s the protagonist’s special pet whom he fights for, that’s literally all there is to it.

>>281652798
>I hate Wan Piss too, so seeing Kekffy cry is a pleasure in itself too.

Remember when I raped you in the WSJ thread you little dragon slopper? Keep seething dragon ball is forgotten garbage while one piece is legendary lmao

Hey, at least he's seething about something that came out recently.
He's at least ten ranks higher than the guy obsessively hating FMA.

>>281664168
>The imagery is clear that half of his 6 eyes
Absolute retard, you can't even understand images well.

>>281664304
Its been 6 years with this one though.

>>281653759
People watching the second movie are gonna be disappointed if they were expecting some long intense brutal fight similar to Akaza's for Upper Rank 2

>>281664634
True enough, but KnY got a movie recently and people still fanboy over it. It is still a "thing", so to speak.

>>281664689
Depends if the second movie has Koku or not to soften the blow. Douma fight was always the weak link in IF arc.

>>281664740
From the way people who have seen the movie describe it on heee, the first movie is all Akaza and the Shinobu half of Douma.
So we can assume the next movie will be all Kokushibo and the Kanao/Inosuke half of Douma.
Meaning the final movie in the IF trilogy will be the Sunrise Countdown.

>>281665295
>describe it on heee
I meant "on here", but that's fine

>>281641101 (OP)
>Female author vs Male author

>Kimetsu hate thread turns into a comfy KnY thread with actual discussion
You guys are alright.

>>281653320
Correct. He cried for the human the demon once was.

>>281654129
That's the most shota-looking girl I've ever seen.

>>281665539
More like it's just two faggots talking about KnY lol

>>281662208
W
I refuse to watch native isekai trash aka Frieren and I refuse to watch anything written by a woman aka KnY
But I also think Frieren is written by a woman so that's a double strike

>>281665673
>native isekai
Are you a bot or underage who got psyoped into thinking this is a real term?

>>281641101 (OP)
Evil niggas be like:
Also false equivalency, kny demons are in essence still humans, just mutated against their will and stuck in their traumas.
Frieren demons are evil outsiders that mimic humans to feed off them.

>>281661132
Well yeah both Akaza and Kokushibo essentially just gave up because fuck this shit. Doma was a legit defeat that was due to specific conditions that you most likely couldn't replicate for another demon or even with another person, essentially lucking out.

Lower moons - Hard as nails, dies sometimes
Upper moons - Big fucking wall, only mark hacks made killing them a thing
Upper moon 3-1 - Essentially not really beatable outside very niche and lucky conditions. Literally the only thing stopping Muzan from wiping them out was knowing where they were.

>>281641101 (OP)
There is the thing with Tanjiro.
The demons he was fighting all used to be humans.
Most turned out to be assholes with zero redeeming qualities, some were in fact forced into this whole people eating thing and simply did it out of fear of Muzan killing them in horrible, horrible ways.

Also Tanjiro knows that while some of them are actually tragic and he actually sympathizes with them, he still kills them due to what they do and what will they do when not put down. The only demons he didn't kill was the Doc Lady and her assistant/2nd husband (both whom managed to free themselves of Muzan's grasp).

>>281644135
To be fair, said merciful kill is very swift and as painless as possible.

>>281658807
In other words Muzan wanted to sound like he's Godzilla.
Thing is Godzilla doesn't give a fuck and indeed is a living natural disaster since he appears at random and simply wrecks everything in his path before going back home.

Muzan on the other hand chooses his victims and wants to eat human flesh while Big G doesn't even give a fuck about humans.

And if we go further then Godzilla actually has very good reasons to hate humans (the whole nuke testing that mutated him into what he is + the draft where there were more G's like himself and that he was the only one strong to survive the nuke testing) and that if he got actually serious like in Godzilla Earth (as shitty as it was, that Godzilla went full overkill on humans probably due to the death of Anguirus and Rodan who in later live-actions became his buddies), then he'd not stop until Earth was purged of humanity.

Muzan has nothing. No tragic backstory, no redeeming qualities, no nothing. Not to mention he does all this shit for shits and giggles. Also wants to devour Nezuko when he finds out she gained immunity to sunlight while still a demon.

>>281666239
Muzan does have the makings of a tragic backstory, but his personality of short tempered ragetard cancels it.

>>281650290
Actually yes, that is great written