Thread 281769234

This aged like pure shit.

>>281769234 (OP)
spoilers

when was the last time that the cover story was more discussed than the actual chapter?

So now that Blackbeard killed Moria, why do we even need the pointless Wanko lore?

STRONGEST PIRATE CREW

>>281769363
Blackbeard killed Absalom, not Moriah, speedy-kun.

I LOVE SHAKKY

>>281769306
It seems like getting the Elbaf giants willingly on the side of the WG was actually Imu and the Elder's big plan A all along and the Warlord system+Pacifistas+gigantification experiments were them trying to cover the gap in strength, hell it seems like the Marines were incapable of dealing with him given the limited amount of actual boomers in the Marines

What's stoppimg moriah from putting absalom's shadow in absalom's corpse?

>>281769433
I will eat her ass, as the prophecy predicted!

I want to see Teach's mom. Was she pretty or ugly?

Have you prayed to our lord and savior yet? Dude just wanted to protect his village, man..

>>281769446
Absalom is dead.

Moria was adopted btw, hes not literally Wanonese

>>281769466
Cringe

>>281769474
So? If shadows disappeared when the original died, moriah would have been more concerned with keeping his shadowless victims alive

>Shakky listening to Rayleigh plapping young, tight, fertile pussy he met 5 mins prior in the next room

>she serves refreshments to both Rayleigh and the girl once they are done

>>281769446
there's no absalom shadow

>>281769472
How would Moria feel about having some bad bitches pray for him?

>>281769528
we've literally seen him cast a shadow

>>281769513
they kept themselves alive for him

Theres no fucking way Loki beat Harald. I dont think anyone 1v1's this nigga in the entire manga aside from Imu and Joyboy. He knocked out Rocks

>>281769556
Ok but that's the shadow of a death person.

>>281769572
rocks is a jobber

>>281769471
there are no ugly one piece moms

>>281769471
I think she'll be goofy looking but sweet sort of like Harald's love for Ida, Xebec having tastes that strays from the usual Namifaces would be a nice characterization because of how much of a wildcard he's been shown to be who doesn't follow anyone else's standards or norms

>>281769575
His hearing has nothing to do with this

/opg/ be like
>AWWW YEAH I'M SO EXCITED FOR MORE MORIA HE WAS THE BEST AND SO STRONG /OUR GUY/ HYPE HYPE HYPE, I LOVE HYPE ONLY

So what happened to Harald looking like Kaido, was that just a case of Hackda being senile and no longer able to properly draw like in pre-TS?

>>281769306
Buggy being Rocks son theory has been debunked.
>>281769582
Kokoro-chan

>>281769612
>AWWW YEAH I'M SO EXCITED FOR MORE MORIA HE WAS THE BEST AND SO STRONG /OUR GUY/
This but sincerely.

>>281769612
Posting like a true spic

>>281769602
>IF I WASN'T A MAN I'D KISS YE

Wait so I don't get it.

Moria is a Kozuku BUT also born in east blue BUT also protected his village in Wano BUT also doesn't look like a Kozuki at all BUT feuded over Kaido because of Wano etc...

People keep saying he's adopted but that makes even less sense. So a Kozuki went all the way to east blue, got some random weird looking kid, brought him to Wano and adopted him then had him living in a small village which then got attacked by Kaido which started the Kaido-Moria feud.
And also apparently Moria was a well known pirate during all this time. So ... he was a pirate while protecting villages in Wano?

>>281769612
At least it's something new to talk about

>>281769534
I hope Yamato joins his crew

We come to a point where Woop Slap might've been a major player on the world stage in a bygone era.

>>281769635
And he was present at Roger's execution 1 year prior to fighting Kaido. Makes no sense, Oda lost the plot long ago.

>>281769627
>Kokoro-chan
used to be hot. same with Big Mom if anyone wants to bring that up

>>281769650
yamato isn't a bad bitch. yamato is a good dog

>Most of Ds
>Good fighters, politicians or revolutionary people
>Law's parents
>Doctors in a random town in North Blue that jobbed to minerals
Remind me again why Law is a D, who told Oda it was a great idea?

>>281769472
>29 years ago, a strange looking but powerful man man named Kozuki Moria fell in love with a local Wanoese woman and had a child, his young daughter vanishing without a trace
>Meanwhile, the two year old infant of Shimotsuki Yasuie, known for her odd eyes and striking pink hair, similarly vanished without a trace

>>281769635
All will be revealed eventually, don't worry about it.

>>281769659
woop d mayor

>>281769234 (OP)
>he didn't attack Elbaph even after Harald's betrayal

So is Perona ACTUALLY related to Toko and the eyes and hair color aren't just coincidences?

>tell them to kill each other
>they do
Whats Mars's IQ?

>>281769725
Perona is from the West Blue, and he was recruited by Moria later after his crew died

>>281769720
>>281769517
I will never forgive Rayleigh

>>281769713
That wouldnt be wise considering in Elbaf he would have to fight the entire nation. According to leakers, Harald showed up to Hachinosu by himself.

>>281769517
>>281769466
>>281769433
Shakky raising her granddaughter

>>281769744
>he
she*

Will Oda give people closure at the end of One Piece as far as ships?

So wait moria was from wano? He was building an army to free wano from kaido?

>>281769572
Or maybe Rocks wasn't as strong as you think

>>281769635
>Moria is a Kozuku BUT also born in east blue
Moria was born in west blue, this was established in the cover story
>also protected his village in Wano
And this is contradictory how? He was born in the west blue but raised in Wano. Have you never met someone who moved homes before?
>also doesn't look like a Kozuki at all
People can have mixed race children or adopt children. We literally just got a whole spiel about how love doesn't know race. A Kozuki could have married an Oni outside of Wano and had Moria, or maybe Oden's dad liked the kid and raised him as a son. Who knows.
>feuded over Kaido because of Wano
This again isn't contradictory. We already know Moria fought Kaido in Wano and robbed Ryuma's grave. We just know why he was there now

>Shank's mother is revealed
>Blackbeard's mother is revealed

When will Luffy's mother be revealed?

>>281769800
Tritoma

>>281769689
Rouge was also a random noncombatant
And neither Bibi nor Kobra were any strong
Saul was also pretty weak for a giant
Clover and his brother were also just civilians
so the only strong D.s are
>Garp, his son, and his grandson
>Roger, and his son
>Law
so out of 15 known d.s, only six are great warriors. less than half

>>281769800
We have known about crocodile since alabasta

People are really overcomplicating the Moria thing. The reason Oda is revealing this in the cover story now is that we're going to see child Moria on God Valley in a few chapters. Kuma saves him and he gets slapped to Wano. He goes back to God Valley eventually to get the Rocks corpses and MAYBE its Thriller Bark.

>>281769787
>Have you never met someone who moved homes before?
Wano was pretty much a sealed country and there was no travel to and from it. That's the entire point of Oden's entire subplot.

>>281769234 (OP)
Absolute piece of shit, I hope one of his brainwashed guards shoved a spear up his asshole when he got killed.

The Wano connection was so obvious with courtesan Perona though her preTS outfit made it less obvious

>>281769779
No, thank goodness. He'll leave it open-ended so all shipfags can be happy.

>>281769784
Thats why he low diffed a bludmiral and it took Garp + Roger to defeat him

>>281769800
We've already met her

>>281769843
>courtesan
Buddy Perona dresses like a gothic lolita

>>281769800
Tritoma was recently pushed forward and she looks like Luffy so it's her.

>>281769800
we already know dadan

>>281769829
kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIzLi9LYoI

Marguerite is Shakky and Rayleigh's daughter

>>281769472
Why doesn't Ulti tell Yamato about Moria? Being an active pirate, she should know about a Shibukai with that name.

>>281769839
I mean Zoro's island people also came from Wano somehow, so we know it's not impossible

>>281769635
If this ends up being a truly major plot point, I think he'd either had to have been the result of a plan A crafted by Sukiyaki (somehow get Kaido's top rival smuggled into Wano and let him shamefully desecrate a grave of one of the country's national hero's, which is a terrible crime for a shogun to allow) or Hiragashi ruling as Sukiyaki (get Kaido's rival into the country to try and off him, because his utility was winding down now that the Kurozumi's consolidated power and Kaido was getting too big for his britches).

>>281769893
Ulti is stupid and short.

>>281769893
Ulti wasn't even born when Kaido and Moria clashed

>>281769860
Nerona Nami search for lollipops?

>>281769860
courtesan is just slang for whore

>>281769800
According to Oda it's Dadan, adoptively clearly, but that's going to be the answer anytime he gets asked. Momfags better hope Luffy's real mother is important to Dragon's backstory or else you're never going to see her, not even in post-epilogue supplemental material.

>>281769893
Ulti was stationed in Wano as an enforcer, besides Moria was presumed to be dead after Marineford by the general population.

Miss Goldenweek is Shakky and Roger's clone daughter

>>281769909
Yes, but she knows about the world of pirates; she wasn't stuck in Wano like Yamato.

>betrayed by Harald
>betrayed by his crew

getting in and out of wano is probably really easy when you can just shove a shadow into a dead fish to get it to give you a ride

>>281769234 (OP)
>Wororo I can't trust any man, only women and Haki

Reminder that out of the four Kuja empresses we know of, Tritoma had the longest reign of about 3 decades. Shakky was only empress for 2 years at most.

>>281769839
>there was no travel to and from it.
Legally sure
We have several examples of people illegally entering and exiting

>>281769918
Daughter of Nerona U. Sakura and Rock D. Lee…

>>281769893
that dumb whore propably never left Wano

Brook's final opponent will be Kuzan. And he will win.

>>281769896
That surely was an accident.

>>281769960
So Moria was allowed to leave Wano whenever he wanted so he could be a famous pirate, to be at Roger's execution, and allowed to return just so he could fight Kaido in time? Without no one noticing his absence?

>>281769876
>>281769921
This

>>281769996
>allowed
He's a pirate, he doesn't give a shit

>>281769984
nah it's gonna be nusjuro. obviously the skellington sword guy with lots of hair is going to fight the skellington sword guy with no hair

The fuck is up with Oda and Moriah. He’s like the most recurring of the villains in terms of updates, but nothing is done with with him.

>Betraying your friend to be allowed to serve as a dog to a bunch of satanic slavers.
So that's the Elbaf warriors' pride and honor I keep hearing about.

>>281770009
And nobody noticed even though he was able to become a famous pirate that rivaled Kaido? Stop sucking Hackdas cock.

This sketch is Shanks mother?

Post gay shit

>>281769959
Gloriosa = original clima tact users
Shakky = manipulate plasma
Tritoma = manipulative sand
Hancock = stoneheart d

>>281769996
They noticed him.

>>281770020
Nah frost will fight frost. Brook will win because underworld's cold is colder.

>>281769996
After Kaido takes over "allowed" no longer mattees

>>281770035
that's imu

So how the fuck do liquors even get leaks at this point? You think it’d be a fairly easy thing to crack down on like only like 10 people should need to lay eyes on it before it hits the printing press and then they should be able to keep watch over anyone in involved in the process after that

>>281769996
>in time?
A whole passed between Roger's death and his fight with Kaido, I say the man had more than enough time to spare

>>281770031
>he was able to become a famous pirate
Wano doesn't get outside news. Most people of Wano don't even know the marines are a thing

>>281770056
Magazines get printed well over a week before they actually have to go on shelves, anyone along the line of shipping them out to corner stores and could get the leaks

>>281770029
If the two of them hadn't gone to Little Garden because of their stupid fight, they would have stopped Harald's stupid plan.

>>281770031
>even though he was able to become a famous pirate that rivaled Kaido?
And the Wanonese who knew nothing about the outside world knew this how?

Where the bluds at?

>>281770031
> Hackda

Gekko is an anagram for Kozuki. So guys like you (impudent children) should sit down, and shut the fuck up this time.

>>281770061
A whole year*

>>281769572
Of course he didn't, he was just a fall guy.

>>281770031
notice what? the newspapers that wano wasn't recieving? the bounty posters that don't get sent to wano? that sometimes there's one extra guy off in ringo, the frozen shithole the beast pirates have few reasons to ever visit?

>>281769635
Isn't it more that Moria washed up on Wano like others have and the Kozuki adopted him?

The world.

>>281770126
Ussop victim

>>281770126
For me? The game.

So Moria is connected to Kaido, Oars (and ancient giants by extent), the Rocks Pirates, Ryuma, Wano, and now ALSO specifically Ringo and apparently the Kozuki? Possibly even God Valley? Doffy tried to kill him on orders given by someone above Sengoku, while now also confronting Blackbeard, and managing to escape.

For what purpose?

>>281770036
Clowncest is something new

>>281770156
World building, important/well connected people exist even if they're not the center point

>>281770156
Moria is THAT cool, true.

how did van augur with ONE line of dialogue get more respect than oden did wtih 15 chapters of blatant DICKRIDING

>>281769668
Oda’s lack of temporal awareness is a trait that’s been consistently present since the very beginning of the manga. It’s (part of) the reason why the anime feels so obnoxiously slow paced. Moving from Logue Town to Wano in a year can easily be achieved in a world where characters have long drawn out conversations in the heat of battle.

>>281770165
Arlong would NEVER touch a filthy higger

Another retard got nuked, both other OP threads are below bump limit again.

>>281769621
>Being senile
He's 50

>>281770156
Moria was raised a Kozuki and thus knows how to read Poneglyphs and might know more shit than he should
The Gorosei want him dead

GIANTS HAVE NO HONOR!

>>281770205
it's the same retard.

>>281769659
Woopslap has often been shown or hinted to know more than some backwater East Blue mayor should.
>Questioning if Luffy's dream is really his own, or his destiny
>Familiar with Dragon
>Seemed to realize something when the sea level was rising

how strong is shanks WTF. loki took out harald who is equal to rocks the same way whitebeard is equal to roger. how could loki lose to ANYONE

>>281770156
Cross Guild needed a Ponegliff reader in their crew

>>281770184
>World building, important/well connected people exist even if they're not the center point

It's the one thing that drew me to One Piece, a world with different gears moving.

>>281770226
Fat fuck

>>281770231
woop slap is no fool

>>281770253
He's bald.

>>281770234
Lokek can't even beat Shamrock's dog.

"Oda didn't resolve this Wano plot thread because he's saving it for later! " Is a bit of a cope, but also kind of true.

>>281769306
Harald is a confirmed bitch. Shame he was born with coc, he doesn't deserve it

>>281770253
FUARK baby Loki is YUGE

Absolutely abysmal writing in the last few chapters

>>281770231
also
>talks about pirates with the same jaded bitterness that oda drew several strawhats exhibiting in their bad future sbs

>>281770267
It's very obvious that Oda had to cut Wano short after the debut of G5 otherwise it would've unironically lasted 50 more chapters.

>>281770184
But why him and for what purpose? Oda has done nothing at all with him, he could have simply not even been brought up since Marine Ford, and nothing would change

Absolutely amazing writing in the last few chapters

>>281770184
Gekko ""Epstein"" Moria was NOT killed by the WB Pirates at Marineford!!
THE THRILLER BARK PORT LOGS MUST BE RELEASED

>>281770234
Level 1 reader

HARALD IS A BITCH ASS NIGGA
SPREAD THE WORD
A DOG IN A LIONS BODY

>>281770294
Because he's gonna bring him back in the narrative and things are gonna change. Is this your first book?

>>281770156
Because Moria can read ponyglyphs

>>281770253
Imagine the diapers. Btw where do giants go to shit, do they just thow it off the tree?

>>281769234 (OP)
Not really if the initiator is Harald and not Xebec, it would only turn out Harald is a retard (he is, he legit thought the WG had good apples at the top) and that Kaido had the right idea.

>>281770318
>he was stabbed
so what whitebeard beat blackbeard with half his head missing

>>281770302
Please do not slander Moria with such a comparison.
Doffy is the one more suitable for that.

>>281770294
Perona went to save him, if Koby didn't meet her he would still be in the rape dungeon of Hachinoshu.

Absolute writing in the last few chapters

It's obviously not the same Moria(h).

Absolute, that is all

>>281770338
Vegapunk was a good apple, Issho too. The main problem are the Celestial Dragons besides Harald managed to trick them back before his death.

>>281770156
this fag being so weak makes no sense even with the depressed bs excuse

>>281770359
I don't remember Doflamingo "adopting" an underage girl.

>>281770029
>We have have to reconsider some traditions if foreigners feel threatened
So gay. Dorry and Brogy would never.

>>281770400
will power is a power system in one piece

>>281770366
Woah, two Moria's from the West Blue who both fought Kaido?

it's obviously a misunderstanding and the pdople of ringo just assumed moriah was fighting on their behalf instead of discovering he was just back to steal ryuma's corpse and sword but got caught by kaido

What's your prediction on Imu's gender?
>Imu is just a normal guy that has an obsession with Lily
>Imu is either very ugly or very beautiful and has a one-sided attraction to Lily
>Imu is in the body of a little boy
>Imu is that ugly Vearth thing with the orc underbite
>Imu is a devil/eldritch creature and can take the form of either man or woman
>the point above, but he either exclusively takes over women or he sacrifices them to keep his body fresh
>Imu is a girl with a one sided attraction to Joyboy and hates Lily
>Imu is one of the above and is wearing Lily's body like a costume

>>281770288
Also he had to have Shanks show up to promote his movie

>>281770421
He literally said that both Dory and Broggy were the two giants who would understand, lol.

>>281770416
Sugar and Baby 5?

>Ringo is empty and destroyed now because it was Moriah and his whole crew who used to live there

holy shit

>>281770440
He's an evil black blob and their gender is never revealed

>>281770440
gonna be a normal male

>>281770416
Baby 5?

Kozuki Moria might be the worst thing to come out of One Piece since 1997.

I swear to god, we better get a chapter where Moria rants about how much of a useless faggot Oden was. That dipshit is owed a roast by somebody.

>>281770400
Will is strength, dreams are fuel. Just wait till a character like Tashigi gets her "Koby moment" once she starts believing in herself.

>>281770451
Sugar is an adult woman.

>>281770408
why did they animate this
what did they mean by this

>>281770470
Nah.

>>281770440
>>281770457
What I'm hoping for desu. Imu's current appearance is iconic now, it'll be a shame to see it changed.

>>281770421
>We have have to reconsider some traditions if foreigners feel threatened
globalist BITCH.

Being a Moria fag since Thriller Bark was always gonna pay off, I knew it all those years ago and I still know it now

>>281770440
>What's your prediction on Imu's gender?
there's nothing to predict

>>281770434
Is it though? Even criminals would defend their own country if it was invaded by outsiders.

>>281770501
>HEY LOOK AT ME, I'M DOFLAMINGO FUFUFUFUFUFUFU

>>281770480
She wasn't when she joined the Donquixotes

>>281770478
I really want this. If Koby can honestymaxx, Tashigi should too!

>>281770454
Even better, they found moria's sword that's why he isn't a swordsman nowadays and they think he is dead. The moment moria picks up a sword he is gonna have a crazy powerup again.

>>281770480
She was 9 when Doffy took her in.

>>281770440
Imu may have started out gendered but shed it alongside other wordly things when mu became an immortal onmyoji in command of powerful akuma. and not just in a spiritual sense. Mu is like a doll down there, as smooth and featureless as the flat plane where Mu's face used to be

Topi Roppo are terrifying. Imagine if this happened to you.

>>281770440
Imu is genderfluid unironically.

>>281770510
this is the equivalnt of buying bitcoin in 2010

>>281770512
Right just like how Yamato was first referred to as Kaido's son.

>>281770527
goda goda goda goda

>>281770416
Doffy not only took in Baby 5 and Sugar, but gave Sugar a DF that made her an eternal loli.

>>281770541
this was sanjis best outfit in the series

>>281770512
>Imu takes control of Gunko's body
>Gunko instantly gets more feminine
You're right, nothing to predict.
>but muh pronouns
Nigga, Big Mom uses a male pronoun to refer to herself too. That's not an identifier in One Piece.

Oda will also make Shanks a D. His mother is a descendant of Joyboy

>>281769513
He explicitly said that any shadow worth keeping would keep themselves alive.

>>281770451
>>281770464
>>281770556
all trebol's doing btw

>>281770512
Yeah but Yamato is a biological female that characters acknowledge as he/him, so that doesn’t mean anything

>>281770198
Arlong compared her to a cat and decided that a cat is fine too.

>the man roger is waiting for is not you teech..
>its gecko moria...the realest nigga in the world...

>>281769612
That's not full strenght Moriah

>>281770440

It's going to be an Obito situation and Imu is a woman that pined over Joyboy (maybe even Nika if we go further back), who had eyes for someone else. As a woman scorned she decided to destroy the whole world but later calmed down and sustained herself on spite alone.

Imagine what a boring chapter this is that people are only talking about SHITmato's cover story, and all because of Moria >>281769612 of all fucking characters. Wew.

>>281770563
Bullshit, their original outfits beat everything.

>>281770450
No, Dorry and Brogy don't go around killing humans for fun, but they follow the traditional warrior ways, and were going around looking and raiding other countries. They'd never support pacifying Elbaf, in the same way Luffy is against that as well.

>>281770638
Anon, Pacifist Elbaf is literally Harald's way to say "fuck you" to the World Governement.

>>281770627
I prefer Nami and Zoro's post-TS outfits desu.

>>281770621
Moria is a long time favorite of anons.

>>281770547
>>281770567
>>281770598
He's male until proven otherwise. That's literally all there is to it.

the seraphim will replace Blackbeard's impel down jobbers before they fight with the SHs

Damn opg really loves the Moria reveal

>>281770514
if the Goa kingdom got invaded Luffy wouldn't lift a finger so long as his friends in Foosha Village were out of harm's way. Sanji would absolutely let Nu Germa fall unless he was already there and his blood family were about to be killed. Enel literally destroyed his homeland just because he had no further need of it.

>>281769472
The thumbnail looks like a basedjak

>>281770618
>would absolutely hate the idea of Imu being a scorned incel that's mad because Lily rejected him for Joyboy, almost willing to drop the series if that's the case
>would absolutely adore the idea of Imu being a scorned femcel that's mad because Joyboy rejected her for Lily, would be up there amongst my favorite plot reveals in all the manga I've read
Am I a retarded hypocrite?

>>281770646
Doubt it, other adult Giants seems to have fallen for the propaganda as well. Also pacifying Elbaf just makes them an easier target. Imu can just kidnap children and train them to become child soldiers with the Navy or Cipher Pol.

>only interesting part of a chapter is the cover story
You know the arc is just great when we're in one of these situations again

>>281770664
just because you say it is doesn't make it actual

>>281770690
gravejak

>>281770605
Odaaaaa

>>281770661
Enough to overshadow a chapter with Rocks, Roger, Harold and Shanks in it apparently

>>281770702
>Doubt it
It literally is otherwise why would Sommers be fuming at Harald? Same for Imu too.

>>281769612
This shit is still crack compared to the pace of groundbreaking information released during Wano.

>>281769595
Dyslexic anon?

>>281770725
It's a flashback that got thrown into right before a confrontation with the big bad of the series. People are tired of it. Of course nobody cares. We want to see Luffy vs GunkImu

What if Vegapunk cures DF users at the end?

>>281769234 (OP)
i don't understand the appeal of this show, it's so ugly. and with the Netflix show, honestly I'd be insulted if I was a fan. I'd probably have dropped it then.
Thankfully I never picked it up.
I wish a OP fan could explain what they see in this mess.

>>281770704
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>281770440
Definitely a woman. Would make no sense to have Gunko as her aide and then possess gunko only when there are two strong men there or could use Shamsham as her vessel.

>>281770740
>We

>>281770725
The flashback has been going on for too long because of the breaks and Shakky messed it up.

I FUCKING HATE THE KOZUKI

>>281770503
Keep in mind that Oda believes in this stuff. He wants to have his cake and eat it with cool viking giants but he also believes in global pacifism against the evil world government that somehow enforces nationalism. In the end we'll find that the more of Oda's explicit vision of what "liberation" looks like, the more incoherent he'll be, and the more his manga will be viewed like Vinland Saga.

>>281770702
the final war is happening within the year. they ain't got time to wait for a bunch of brats to grow up.

>>281770440
I hope they're just Oda's own Phantom Blot and that is their actual appearance.

I think people in these threads may be illiterate. Gecko Moria is not Kozuki Moria. Literally two different last names. Absolutely zero connections between Gecko and the Kozuki clan.

The annoying thing is, we’re probably going to get to the gods valley once again and then the flashback is just gonna stop. We’re probably never actually going to get the fight there because he doesn’t wanna ride it.

>>281770701
yes

>>281770727
They're fuming over something else Harald did, his blunder, likely the reason for his death. Elbaf being pacifist was news to Sommers when he arrived.

>>281770772
Just like Zoro, there's no Roronoa clan

>>281770756
two nukes were too many, Japan has been mentally dulled down beyond repair. Worst part is I think you're onto something with the Vinland Saga thing.

>>281770772
>>281770429

>>281770772
average Wano citizen

>>281770701
Nah

>>281770785
Nigger, Sommers literally bitched about Elbaf promoting school and education over their warrior ways. Fucking read, damn.

>>281770661
Those anons are in the wrong and Thriller Bark was filler. Genuinely you can skip that entire arc outside of the very end when Kuma shows up and not miss a beat as far as the overall narrative.

>>281770772
>I think people in these threads may be illiterate. Gecko Moria is not Kozuki Moria. Literally two different last names. Absolutely zero connections between Gecko and the Kozuki clan.

>>281770664
Nah

>>281770819
And you are a gay ass faggot.

How do people not understand this Moria thing? He pretended to be a Wano native like Luffy.

>>281770429
Would you really put it past Oda to make a gag like that though?

>>281770774
the fight doesn't matter unless there's some trick or secret to it beyond "and then roger and garp beat rocks while his crew fled". He can just let the anime make something up

I think Kaido had the strongest crew overall of the current era. Beyond even the physical strength of himself, his commanders and his troops he has bullshit like Queen's disease bullets, which are in powerscaling terms a type of hax that nobody can negate except doctors like Chopper. If Kaido was smart he could just eliminate the doctor of a given enemy crew, have Queen plague bomb the whole battlefield with a disease he's already immunized the Beast Pirates against and watch as the entire enemy crew shrivels up and dies. Lord only knows how this would effect the god's knights or if they would at all.

>>281769517
>thousands of men willing to be with her
>goes for the one man that doesn't care much and cheats on her
Too real.

>>281769234 (OP)
Serves him right for doubting Kaido

>>281770854
*THE Kaido

>>281770819
You can say that for literally every arc
>lol you can skip drum island except for when they pick up chopper
>lol you can skip alabasta except for when robin ready the poneglyph and luffy punches crocodile
>lol you can skip skypeia except for seeing the vearth statue for one panel and reading rogers inscription on the poneglyph

>>281770664
male until proven otherwise btw

>>281770831
Modifying a given name is not the same as changing a family name.

>>281770847
>thousands of men willing to be with her
>goes for the one man that can actually fulfill her cuckquean fetish
Makes sense to me.

>>281770294
Why did Wapol of all people have to witness Imu and not a more important character? Sometimes shit just happens and I'd rather see unterutilized characters get something to do than inventing another Sabo for the occasion.

>>281769234 (OP)
What if Yas/Usopp are related to BB

>>281770886
Das racist.

>>281770854
yeah, honestly Kaido was right. Should've conquered Elbaf if it was so important.

>Backstabs Rocks.
>Backstabs his country.
>Backstabs his race.
Oda made a bigger jew than Saturn, damn.

>>281770794
I'm not TRYING to be a turbo chud either. I don't mind if One Piece is a leftist story (it is), but can it at least be destroy evil racist aristocracy leftism without veering into the contradiction of protecting your race and culture from evil racist aristocrats who want to destroy your race and culture to make you racist like them, so you have to destroy your own race and culture but on your own terms through being nice and friendly to everyone?

>>281770868
That's how it works yes. Joyboy is male until proven otherwise, Lily is female until proven otherwise and so on.

>>281770902
The term you're looking for his shabbos goy, not jew.

>>281770867
holy FUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK

>>281770756
Yeah, you faggots always say shit like that. First it was with Naruto, then with Bleach and finally with Attack On Titan: surely the next manga that you obsess over will surely be the template of One Piece's failure. Retarded ass faggot.

>>281770482
Yah

>>281770868
I can't wait for the Mommymu reveal

OPEN THE BORDERS

>>281770945
Nope.

Moria's mame was written with katakana, not kanji
Hackda dicksuckers are just huffing copium, as usual

The WG never noticed for more than a decade that Harald had a school built, that his library got a bunch of forbidden books and that the new generation of Giants were being raised as pussies. But also that they apparently thought things were going so well that they never bothered checking after his death and left no one in charge or as a contact to keep this good work going.

>>281770907
>you have to destroy your own race and culture but on your own terms

You're ignoring that Harald felt guilty because the Giants behaved just like the Celestial Dragons, if not worse.

The >genius of Hackda's writing is that everything is so damn nonsensical at this point that there's really nothing he can do that doesn't make sense to his dicksuckers.

>>281770867
Yes that's the joke
>What's your name
>erm... kozuki moria!
>that's just gekko moria reversed (shocked enel faces)

Moria pretended to be a native. He literally doesn't care about Wano

>>281770947
Maleimu just lost

>>281770973
Nah.

>>281770440
Imu being a woman at least prevents the entire story to be about pussy.

>>281770973
You guys lost, terribly this time. Go home. You're pathetic.

>>281770973
>>281770960
bluds are legit red in the face because other people are having fun with a minor reveal

>>281770962
waiting ten years for a multi-centennial is like procrastinating for an hour

>>281770902
Harald didnt backstab nobody. He challenged Rocks in his own turf, if he wanted to backstab Rocks he could have killed him in God Valley

Moria was just pretending when he got adopted, grew up in ringo and took on a sword it was all a 35 year long joke until kaido defeated him and killed all his friends (part of the plan baby!)

>>281770962
It's not easy to send a spy to Elbaf. A human would stand out too much. They'd need to send a giant, but they are in the marines not in Cipher Pol

I'm really tired of the Wano bullshit, it's been two years man.

>>281770542
Teach’s pronoun during jaya arc

>>281771010
Doomkek blud got his AI banned now hes seething in other ways, many such cases

>>281771024
lmfao

The wano native Gecko Pirates

Our hero!

>>281771024
He is such a schemer.

>>281771057
>>281771073
I hope Moria looks like this the next time we see him

So Harald turning on Rocks is probably what led Rocks to becoming the kind of person Kaido, Whitebeard and Linlin hated, right?

Probably changed so much that from then on he let his crew kill each other off however they wanted since betrayal became expected. Probably killed off some mouthy crew too.

what the fuck is a "bluds"

>>281771099
Usopp-clan term, meaning unclear.

>>281770440
>What's your prediction on Imu's gender?
Queen Goa'uld.

>>281771091
Whitebeard didn't like Rocks and other members were trying to kill each other even before then.

>>281770937
I love One Piece and am still enjoying it actually. I'm just seeing the seeds of total incoherence set in, where the author could be vague before and now that he has to be specific can't put together a message of his series that makes sense.
Consider:
>The world government is bad because its a slaving genocidal racist empire. Okay.
>The world government is bad because it wants to destroy the race, culture, and history of those it believes are lesser. Okay, makes sense. There's a difference between race hatred and maintaing a race, especially against those who hate your race. Giants and fishmen need to maintain their identity on some level.
>The culture of giants is being violent and strong and the world government wants to use them in that capacity, but also somehow wants to destroy their culture and history. Uh... hang on? Isn't the giants actual history mostly useful to the WG minus some void history edits?
>Harald disobeys the WG by being peaceful, going on global trips, and trying to destroy his own culture and history if it upsets others. So it's bad when the WG does it, but okay when Harald does it?
>Elbaph's culture was completely destroyed by Harald by turning them into pacifists who get upset at extremely minor comments. Yet, somehow the WG is the totally distinct evil bad guy for wanting to destroy their history and burn their libraries?
>Luffy doesn't like this pacfism, yet Harald is portrayed as a good guy, and Luffy is supposed to be a liberator...

>>281771091
>what led Rocks to becoming the kind of person Kaido, Whitebeard and Linlin hated
They all hated him before this, too, since they were forced to join him through Davy Back fights.

>>281770819
Soulless

>>281771038

They can use a Holy Knight as a contact person. They can teleport with the abyss.

>>281771091
No, they were already dysfunctional assholes to each other but Harald backstabbing Rocks would've definitely painted Kaido's worldview for the worse.

This kind of sets up Moria and Perona going home to Wano instead of Cross Guild... They can give up on fighting now that Kaido is toast.

>>281771133
>Tashigi trying to help out a "little girl" like she has any idea
kek

>>281769306
>Moria was fighting Kaido like a GigaChad while Oden was dancing like a prostitute

LMAO

did you expect more oden deserved slander before the spoilers?

>>281771010
Your idea of "fun" is sucking Oda's tiny nipponese cock like your life depends on it.
But go on, keep pretending like kanji that was never used in the manga makes the reveal good instead plot hole ridden nonsense.

>>281771148
Shamrock and Gunko got immediately spotted.

>>281771148
All the god knights got instantly sensed by Gaban the moment they set foot in Elbaf and Harald can most likely sense them as well. Even during Harald's death, Gaban sensed a weird haki. It's not easy to conceal yourself

>>281770808
You're literally proving my point, retard. Sommers learned about it there. Harald was killed 14 years ago.

>>281771073
rosario vampire characters look hot?

>>281771129
>trying to destroy his own culture and history if it upsets others
Cultures evolve and change, doesn't mean they're destroyed. Unless you're one of those guys who thinks stuff like Evropa needs to abandon Christianity and retuvrn to being pagan.
>So it's bad when the WG does it, but okay when Harald does it?
Invaders forcing a country to change =/= a country deciding to change itself.

>>281770277
>NOOOOOOOOO WHY DIDN'T HARALD BEFRIEND THE GUY WHO STABBED HIS SON JUST TO GET HIS ATTENTION
Gee real mystery.

>>281771133
Kuja flowers

>>281769306
>Garling discovered something intriguing in God Valley.

I'm guessing Garling found a child with the same eyes as Imu. Mihawk.

>>281771174
bro got steam coming out of his ears
his life depends on this

>Needed Luffy to beat all the bosses
>Needed Sanji to keep Luffy fed
>Needed Nami to navigate
>Needed Usopp to beat Perona
>Needed Chopper to beat Queen and stop Ice Oni
>Needed Robin to read the poneglyphs
>Needed Franky to make a new ship
>Needed Brook to steal Big Mom's poneglyph rubbings
>Needed Jinbe to save the crew from Big Mom
>Needed Zoro to...?

Remind me, did Roger find Buggy on God Valley too?

>>281771226
He and Sanji and Jinbei are extra muscle. Can't save all those jobbers on his own, can he?

>>281771214
...or the thing mentioned in the next line, Shanks/Shamrock.

>>281769306
>red-haired woman
And how do we know that when the manga is in black and white?

>>281770956
Yep.
>>281770868
Will die a woman, btw.

>>281770965
Yeah, but he didn't just stop at "Let's not raid humans anymore". He full on said that they should remove parts of their culture that upset other races, and now the Elbaph kids are not just non-aggressive but totally helpless pacifists apart from Kolon, and they've even started policing hurty language. Harald has already destroyed half of Elbaph's culture. The WG is merely finishing the job, yet Harald is supposed to be viewed as purely good and righteous.
It's like that "Looking good, Susan" comic. You could replace the chad with Harald saying "We may have consider some traditions if other countries feel threatened" and then have the bottom panel be Summers saying he'll destroy their culture, and only then will Susan phone human resources.

>>281770527
Zorobros!?
Vistabros...
FraudHawkbros...
The STRONGEST swordsman is returning

>>281770973
The actual genius of his writing is that he writes at such a slow pace that you forget when he writes weird/inconsistent shit because occasionally he does address questions from ages ago which tricks people in to believing everything is going according to plan.

Take Doffy attempting to assassinate Moria under orders back in Marineford for example. It’s been so long since that happened that everybody has forgotten that it’d even be a plot hole if never addressed, but this newest spoiler actually gives you a valid theory to think it happened for a reason since he could potentially read ponyglyphs, so everyone compliments Oda’s genius for reminding them that he addressed a plot hole that people forget even existed.

>>281771199
>Stabbed
He just knocked him down.

>>281771258
Shanks and Shamrock are literally the only characters in all of OP to have greyscale hair, everybody else has full white or black hair, so I guess she's grey too

>>281771129
You know what you just said is really rude to Elbaph, right? Implying they have almost no culture and history of note beyond being savage warriors.
Also if you haven't noticed Harald fucked up in multiple ways. Failed as a father, failed to recognize the WG was the true enemy, went too far with the pacifism and rejected his own heritage to the point of mutilating himself.

>>281771265
Be thankful you missed the last thread

>>281771129
>Uh... hang on? Isn't the giants actual history mostly useful to the WG minus some void history edits?
No, it's not useful to them because like you also said they just want to use them as muscle and nothing else. They don't give a fuck about Giants as individuals, they only care about their strength.
>Harald disobeys the WG by being peaceful, going on global trips, and trying to destroy his own culture and history if it upsets others.
You speak like a /pol/tard, all Harald suggested was stopping the rape trips that he himself used to do when he was younger. Literally what the Celestial Dragons did too with the hunting games, as another anon pointed out.
>Elbaph's culture was completely destroyed by Harald by turning them into pacifists who get upset at extremely minor comments. Yet, somehow the WG is the totally distinct evil bad guy for wanting to destroy their history and burn their libraries?
Yes, of course because the right way for Elbaf obviously is a middle-ground between their rich history and their traditional warrior figures. What Harald did was "bad" but necessary to prevent Imu from fully taking over Giants as a population.

Imu ordered Doflamingo to attack Moriah because Kozuki clan can read poneglyphs.

>>281771252
The children belong to Garling. He didn't just find them. Shanks and Shamrock have the same face as Garling lmao

>>281769612
Yes I like seeing old characters do stuff. One Piece has a roster of really nice legacy characters and when they show up they instantly steal the spotlight from whatever post TS literal who we're dealing with.

>>281769234 (OP)
Some people just don't have an eye for friends, that's just how it is.

There was a timeline where Buggy, Crocodile, Mihawk, Moria, and Doffy all met at Roger's execution and formed a crew, and then beat Kaido and saved Oden's life

>>281770440
this isn't a man

>>281769612
Nah I don't care I never liked Moriah. I'm way more excited about Garling and Shanks's mom.

The timeline doesn't make sense

>God Valley was 40 years ago
>Shanks was found in a chest as a baby
>it was assumed that chest was one of the chests in God Valley
>yet Shanks and Shamrock were still with their mom 39 years ago, despite that meaning Shanks would be a toddler and no longer a baby 39 years ago

Did Oda fuck up?

>>281771191
What point? That Harald managed to fool the World Governement by promising them fully-developed warriros?

>>281771151
Cross Guild is super weak. They kind of need more strong members to even be considered a threat though.

>kill rocks and we'll let you join our country clubs
>I did my best but it was a draw :<
>????
>Harold rips his own horns off at some point
>Harold gets stabbed by his own guards
>Loki kills everyone in the castle
>Loki rules for a while
>the WG leaves Elbaph alone for many years
>Loki gets defeated by Shanks and imprisoned. This is after Shanks lost his arm but could be before or after he visited Marijoise to meet his blood family
>the WG decides its time for the final solution to the peon question
>first on the agenda was assassinating vegapunk
>second on ghe agenda is getting a bunch of giant warriors to defend marijoise with while their doomsday weapon goes around sinking every large island until the sea levels rise to the height of vodka wolf
>?????
>profit

>>281771325
Looks like a man to me. Even my friends said so.

>>281771325
*transforms into a man*
bend over goy

>lost to Luffy
>lost to Jinbei
>lost to flamingo
>lost to Black beard
>lost to Kaido
JUST

>>281771261
Nah.

>>281771335
No, you are illiterate because god valley was 38 years ago

>>281771325
That bump could be Vearth's underbite

>>281771264
>You could replace the chad with Harald saying "We may have consider some traditions if other countries feel threatened" and then have the bottom panel be Summers saying he'll destroy their culture, and only then will Susan phone human resources
Even in your own sentence you're contradicting yourself. Harald wasn't trying to obliterate Elbaph's history like Sommers, in fact he was trying to preserve it by creating schools and libraries and unifying the giants. He just wanted them to stop being barbaric savages killing everyone.

>>281771360
>got back up after all of those
The only thing that matters is willpower in One Piece, and Moria keeps going

>>281771335
>>God Valley was 40 years ago
God Valley was exactly 38 years ago
>Shanks was found in a chest as a baby
Shanks was 1 year old at the time, as you could tell by his hair

>>281771196
>Invaders forcing a country to change =/= a country deciding to change itself.
Yes, but considering the outcome it's a bit too ironic for me to take a "HARALD IS THE GOOD GUY" narrative totally 100% sincerely. A country deciding to change itself can undertake bad changes. Obviously the Celestrial Dragons are evil and are doing much worse, but it's just funny that Harald changing Elbaph so it's less able to protect itself from CDs makes him an innocent sweetheart from the standpoint of the story. Yes, Luffy and Zoro disagree but the arc is going to end with Luffy liberating them and giving them a free ride so their delusional pacifism is allowed to continue.
>>281771265
Calm discussion of themes of the story I disagree with, without ever mentioning schizo shit about Jews = /pol/. Nice one note dismissal tactic you have there. I'm very tolerant of all ideologies EXCEPT PACIFISM. I could accept a story that said was pro communist easily. Pro pacifism is mega super ultra retarded and should never be tolerated even in principle. It's contradictory nonsense adjacent to nihilism. At least it's an ethos you say? Well, at least nihilists ADMIT they believe in nothing.

>>281770440
Probably a man/eldritch abomination in the body of a woman. The form at the very least is 100% feminine I just can't picture Oda drawing a dude in a long fluttery dress playing with butterflies.

heh imagine betraying your old allies just to please the government

>>281771342
They've got a Shanks-tier character, they'll be fine.

>>281771265
This dumb nigger still wants to be mad at Harald for not wanting to be a rapist savage anymore, lol.

>>281771278
He stabbed him later

>>281771366
It's clearly fabric

>>281771343
>>second on ghe agenda is getting a bunch of giant warriors to defend marijoise with while their doomsday weapon goes around sinking every large island until the sea levels rise to the height of vodka wolf

Dumb plan. The giants will riots and destroy Mary Geoise.

>>281771389
Nothing abiut Harald is pacifist, he tried to kill Rocks.

Will Cucks apologize toKaido?

>>281771369
>He just wanted them to stop being barbaric savages killing everyone.
Yet that's not what happened. They didn't JUST stop being barbaric savages that killed everyone. Half of them became pacifists who can't protect their own culture from the CDs/WG. The only thing Harald is protecting now is the history of his culture, but he's destroyed its living manifestation by refusing to protect it.

>>281771389
>I'm not a schizo! anyway here's my deep seated neurosis I'm projecting onto this conversation
come back when you learn to stop walking like a duck

>>281771416
Loki TANKED that btw

Are you supposed to like Herald or hate Herald? Because he seems like a piece of shit.

I am the strongest member of the Kozuki clan.

>>281771438
I never doubted cabin boy.

>>281771427
Harald produced pacifism for his country. That he isn't a pacifist himself is irrelevant. The changes he made left his country open to being destroyed.

>>281771450
You're supposed to form your own nuanced opinions about him

>>281771389
>I'm very tolerant of all ideologies EXCEPT PACIFISM
>I could accept a story that said was pro communist easily
Lmao okay carry on

>>281771438
Apologize to Kaido for what? Being the absolute most destructive force in the grand line?

>>281771335
Didn't God Valley happen 38 years ago?

KEKdo beat Moria by taking his crew hostage (then killed them anyways lmao)

>>281771446
I didn't say I wasn't a schizo. I only said I wasn't /pol/. I don't care if you are libertarian, communist, primtivist, futurist, fascist, syndicalist, globalist, liberal, progressive etc etc. I don't care. It's a story and it's good for the author to express his viewpoint. The one thing I won't stand for is pacifism. It's the one truly universally contemptible dirt shit beneath boot ideology. After Vinland Saga, I'm not tolerating pathetic nuked into pacifism hypocrite Japanese authors anymore.

>>281771450
I think he's supposed to come off as someone who was well-intentioned but made a lot of understandable mistakes.

>>281770035
No, that's Imu, anon.

>>281771453
Hiyori…

>>281771510
Yes.

>>281771264
>He full on said that they should remove parts of their culture that upset other races,
Lmao the fact that this is what upsets you tells me everything I need to know.
If CDs wanted to keep genocide festivals going because it's their culture you'd agree but for some reason Harald is the bad guy here, kek. Alright dude

>>281771479
It isn't that kind of manga. Oda doesn't do nuance, which is why this comes across as bad writing.

>>281771548
That's because you're just retarded.

>>281771575
Better writing than one piece, btw

>>281771265
Go back

>>281769949
At least he has his loving wife and a child to carry his will

>>281771546
No, because the story portrays the CDs correctly as the bad guys! Harald is preventing his people from being able to combat the CDs. They now have to be bailed out by Luffy. I don't see why I should have the positive feelings towards Harald Oda wants me to have.

Does this make Perona an official princess character now?

Don't forget to report

>>281770746
Sommers was injured and Killingham was too far away from the Giants. Imu only possessed Gunko so that he can convert the Giant Warrior pirates who were nearby.

>>281771338
The nation is currently full of fully developed warriors, what are you talking about?

>"We might have to reel in Dorry and Brogy if they raze other countries and kill humans too much"
wtf this is literally cultural erasure

>>281771450
>goes around bullying countries
>changes his beliefs for pussy
>abandons his love life and first to live in the ghetto part of the country
>marries a gold digger who ignores his second born child
>constantly sucks dick to the world government whose trafficking his race
Ye Rocks should have ditched this loser years ago.

>>281770478
Can't believe Smoker is such a will-let.

>>281771603
Oda doesn't think about you at all

Do you think Oden ever get roasted for his crime of inaction, or does the story continue to jack him off as somebody who dindu nuffin wrong?

>>281771600
Zoro's wives btw

>>281771557
not him but

>>281771522
When has Oda ever written a character like that before? All the previous good king guys are totally 100% vindicated in their actions. When has Oda ever treat these situations with ambiguity?

>joins Cross Guild
>Buggy makes him want to achieve his dreams again
>starts training
>gets fit
>gets Haki
>remembers his samurai training
>starts blitzing through the battlefield, stealing shadows and leaving opponents to get killed by the sun
Moria coin is about to fly to the moon, get ready.

>>281771603
Come on now, son.
>>281771635
The youngest generation is not.

>>281771654
Oden was boiled, not roasted

Ai slop spammer is van evading for the 3rd time today

>>281771450
He is someone who has good ideals but the people he's working with are scum and he has a mess of a personal life.

>>281771491
For doubting him

Loki > Harald

Fuck globohomo and the woke mind virus

>>281771450
He is a typical foolish idealist. At most you should pity him.

>>281771666
Imagine if Kaido only defeated Moria with help again once again kek.

>>281769485
Source: your unwashed nigger ass

>>281771734
Yeah he really protected his country by razing villages and attacking his fellow countrymen

>>281771668
Currently the kids don't matter. The kids are peaceful because Harald forced his ideology on Elbaf.

>>281771603
You don't have to if you don't want to, I know don't because of the way he treated Loki. And really the way he treated Loki and the way he managed international relationships aren't so far removed from one another. He had excellent intentions that were ruined by poor insight and mid intelligence, leading to very poor execution that led to hell for the people involved who are still impacted today.

>>281770742
>the shows ugly
>netflix insults the show
>i'd be so insulted by the netflix show if i read the anime show which i don't because it's so ugly
what level of underage is this?

Why would Harald ever be super loyal to Rocks? Wtf is the Rocks fag on about?

>>281771734
>CHADrald
As strong as Rocks
>LoKEK
Jobs to RATnks

>>281769466
cringe indeed, this retard oda doesn't know how to maintain momentum

>>281771747
Idealists only speak through words, Harald literally connected and united Elbaf together under his rule.
>>281771776
Ironic that you say that because the Holy Knights now want to giant brats back to Mary Geoise.

If Harald is naive then I feel like Rocks is delusional. Like he was making their friendship out to be more than it really was. They felt like drinking buddies at best.

Harald is a better character than Oden.

>>281771788
Dude surely there's a middle ground between being loyal and killing the friend his wife fed under his roof.

>>281771808
>As strong as Rocks
Loki killed demonized Harald
>Jobs to RATnks
Headcanon

>>281769466
Yeah? Alright.

>>281771844
Rocks was an outlaw and Harald weights his countrys future more than his friendship with some pirate

>>281771830
>Ironic that you say that because the Holy Knights now want to giant brats back to Mary Geoise.
As hostages so that they could force Elbaf's Army into fighting their wars...

>>281771831
Well I mean we're talking about a guy who had to resort to maxing out Davy Back Fights to get a crew. Of course he's bad at this friendship thing.

>>281771885
Yeah, I know.

>>281771831
It happens. You can believe someone is cooler than they really are due to a couple of moments. If Rocks lived with Harold for a long period of time he'd probably start thinking Harold is lame after a while.

>ripping off the worst part of naruto which was naruto and sasuke being reincarnations of "le super special people"
LMFAO

>>281771872
Yes and that's why Harald is a bad friend.

>>281771665
Iceberg fell for government propaganda and assumed Robin and Ohara were evil.
Wapol's dad was a good king but failed to raise his son right.
Sukiyaki was a total failure.
Oden also comes off as a moron, although the story doesn't acknowledge it.

But either way none of that has any bearing on Elbaph. We know they've been making mistakes ever since Big Mom's flashback when they got duped into thinking a child trafficker was a holy mother and let John Giant get sent to the Marines.

>>281771893
Not to mention unlike Foxy, he didn't seem to be a fun guy to be around unless you are a fightfag.

>>281771788
They're friends. But more than that it's kinda gross for Harald to agree to kill Rocks just so that Elbaf can join the WG. Elbaf doesn't really need to join the WG, it's just something Harald wants personally, and it's a shitty reason to kill your friend over.

I still like Harald though and I assume the current spoilers are leaving out a lot of details on the chapter.

>>281771831
It was clear that this "friendship" was mostly valued by Rocks on his part, remember that he wants Harald to be part of his grand-scheme of world domination. At the end of the day, he was just another chess piece on his board.

Shakky was acting so masculine here

>>281771843
Why not create his own union of nations to unite people, since he was already doing that anyways. All he'd need is Wano and now the WG would be entirely too pussy to do anything about this new global force

>>281771665
Big Mom is the only character that I believe Oda has ever sincerely written with some level of purposeful ambiguity.

Moria and Kaido (he crawled out of hell) will one v one during the final war
This is largely irrelevant to the plot but it will still happen

>>281771956
>Just conspire to potentially incite a global war, bro

>>281771956
You see, that would make sense. If WG wants evil globalism and Harald wants good globalism, he fucked up by introducing pacifism. He should have got all his friends together and turned the violent giant culture AGAINST the WG. Instead he just went "Nope, we're not violent anymore sowwy" and now his country is paying the price. The WG would win against Elbaph now if Luffy weren't there.

ticktock teach fags

>>281771956
The nations he wants to ally with are members of the world government

>>281771956
You try to reason with the Wano people, bro. They were fucking afraid of Kawamatsu, Giants would probably be sliced up on sight by the samurai.

Most powerful forces in One Piece
Destiny > AIDS > off guard attacks > power levels

>>281772056
Offscreen BB >>>> all

>>281771935
Wtf does narut* get another up?

>>281770184
>>281770238
Everyone in One Piece is related to each other.

Can he beat Dorry and Brogy?

>>281772114
No, but he'd put up a decent fight 2v2 with his string clone before going down

>>281772114
Probably not. Dorry and Brogy hit harder than Gear 4 I feel.

>>281771939
>Iceberg fell for government propaganda and assumed Robin and Ohara were evil.
Iceberg’s morality has never been confusing with the context of all information, he is 100% good guy
>Wapol's dad was a good king but failed to raise his son right.
Wapol’s dad is a nobody that has never even been drawn, but you do bring up a good point which is more applicable to Doffy’s dad who was an actual character and I would agree that he was purposely written to be destructively naive, but not evil.
> Oden also comes off as a moron, although the story doesn't acknowledge it.
And I also question whether that was Oda’s actual intention.

Luffy still can't beat Big Mom. It would be a tie like Kizaru

>>281771258
>"Look at this woman Imu, dont you think her red long hair is beautiful?"
it's that easy

>>281772030
Kishi and Oda are such good friends. I bet they bounced off each other for ideas and also asked to copy Togashi's homework.

>>281772114
Get him past GODino first.

>>281769689
Oda was obsessed with making Law popular with fujoshis at the time. I think he also loved him too.

>>281771665
Harald will be "vindicated" in that we have a reason why he almost forced such a strong pacifist policy on his people.

>>281771956
How many nations are willing to join to fight the WG? Not many I reckon

>>281772114
Yes, by subtrefuge. He'd trick them with exploding beer or something, and once Dorry's insides had exploded, Broggy would be confused and demoralized, and his low haki would leave him open to a surprise attack. I feel like a hypothetical and original scene like this could happen.

>>281772197
They don't have to fight. They just have to be part of the union.

>>281772114
Why didn't Oars Jr protect himself with Haki?

>>281772161
Facts

>>281771935
They weren't though, they were the reincarnations of the sons of an important person

>>281771665
Doffy's father.

>>281772214
If they don't fight then the World Government will just crush them as a threat to other nations.

>>281772157
>Wapol’s dad is a nobody that has never even been drawn
Yes he has.

>>281772229
Okay, I'll give you that one. Crisis over. I now love Harald and will stop schizo posting.

Imagine how unstoppable Elbaf would be if Vegapunk just set up shop and built the equivalent of Egghead on Elbaf just a few years earlier? Those Giant cannons on the tree? They're now laser cannons. Every Giant Warrior will be equipped with better armor and weapons, potentially laser guns. Bubble shields are set up around the most available entrances. Sea Beast Weapons are stationed in all the seas surrounding the island. Many of the monsters in the Underworld are turned into cyborg Guardians as well. Vegapunk also makes a few Giant Seraphim too.

Could anyone stop Futuristic Elbaf?

>>281772228
That actually makes it worse

>>281772214
The WG doesnt work like that

>>281771935
?

>>281772188
>Oda caring about what women want
Rotflmao

>>281772258
The giants would start fighting each other over if they want futurism or not.

>>281772258
the same genderless blob that destroyed the ancient kingdom could

>>281772281
Womenbros...

>>281772258
My new headcanon is that post-series Vegapunk will help Robin rebuild Ohara and regrow the Tree of Knowledge with advanced biotech.

>>281772161
Big Mom has quite literally never lost a 1v1 against anybody

>>281772264
Unless the sun god that is the sole threat to their rule has come back in the form of a moron pirate captain who for over 2 years wasn't even strong enough to fight a Yonko's commander, let alone the Yonko themselves. Then just leave him be

>>281769847
you say this but dungeon meshi fandom became hell after the ending confirmed zero ships.

What is the lore behind Stronger?

>>281769779
Of course.

>>281772328
>sole
Not really. You need Shirahoshi, Lokis DF, the Garelja giants, potentially Laws DF and more on top of that

>>281772323
she hasn't fought a 1v1 ever. she's wholly reliant on the life force of others

>>281769779
Never really thought about how all these pairings are colour-coordinated.

>>281772328
Nika is just one part of the puzzle: the main threats also seem to be Shirahoshi, Teach, Vivi and possibly Loki too.

>>281772328
>the sole threat to their rule
you made that up

I miss Elbalph...

>>281772334
Tell me more

>>281772281
Oda would sooner acknowledge men pretending to be women as people than actual women.

>>281769234 (OP)
Kaido: See? You can not trust in my dad.
Rocks: ...

>>281772339
He is true mastermind of the Blackbeard pirates.

>>281771335
>>God Valley was 40 years ago
NO. 38 years ago.

harald vs oden...

>>281772475
Harald annihilates Oden.

>>281772475
That wouldnt even be a fight, Harald murders the poor bastard

Oden was literally a hung shota having sex at 6. He was based.

>>281772475
Did Harald dance like a retard for years while his country suffered?

>>281772475
Oden was such a fucking shit character I completely memory holed him

>>281772258
In order to create all that he needed the government money to do so.

>>281772553
goto bed kinemon

It would be really neat if Big Mom and Kaido did their Wano combination attack in God Valley

>>281772339
He's some kind of giant virus that was originally given a normal Horse-Horse fruit, then the Pegasus one.

>>281771264
I don't think Oda is the type to say "this side was right" in situations like this.
You will get Harald's viewpoint and you will get Loki's viewpoint, but the story won't say Harald or Loki was totally wrong.

>>281771303
>imu knows Moria can read poneglyphs
>let's make him a shichibukai then kill him randomly after a huge battle to save face
Why not just set a fuckin hit squad for his ass when he was a normal pirate?

>>281773327
No way they knew right away. They probably found out he is a Kozuki, sometime after Luffy beat his ass.

>>281771575
>>281771600
I take Mii/May over ai slop