Thread 281921807

>watch the anime looking for something that scratches the rpg itch since Im burned out of games
>its really good
>find out manga is done, start reading
>already on chapter 60, series is probably going to my top 10 ever
How come some anonymous japanese woman has better sense of lore building, better character and story writing, better jokes, better concept and better art than 99% of the people working in the industry today?

>>281921807 (OP)
because she's an oldschool wizardry and ultima nerd. dungeon meshi is filled with allusions to Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord

>>281921807 (OP)
You have bad taste

>>281921952
I cant even fathom the slop you must like holy fuck

>>281921807 (OP)
Check these.

>>281921807 (OP)
Japs are good at making meritocracies, you have to be good or they can you for the next guy in line. Women are not exempt from that rule, so you end up with very cool and unique series you don't find anywhere else in the western world.

>>281921807 (OP)
Nobody cares about dung meshit.

>>281921807 (OP)
>How come some anonymous japanese woman has better sense of lore building, better character and story writing, better jokes, better concept and better art than 99% of the people working in the industry today?
There is a massive lore book called the Adventure Bible that flushes out a lot of the stuff only touched upon by the main story and a large number of blog posts detailing what living life in that world is like. The answer to your question is "love", she loves the characters and world she created to the point of obsession and thankfully she's shared it with us.

>>281922171
live forever

>>281921807 (OP)
I was thinking of getting the manga box set.

>>281922171
Survive for a while

>>281922171
Drifting dragons is bad
Meat should be the last reason anyone hunts a dragon

>>281923096
shut up hippie

>>281923114
Hunting then for their thick hide, scales, organs, bones or for pest control all make more economic sense, even within drifting dragon's own lore on dragons; the meat of such a creature would be terrible to eat but the author's frame of reference is probably the Japanese taste for whale and its painfully obvious-- the first chapter they're all salivating over what would be a mountain of the worst possible meat and mentioning the hide as an afterthought when anyone with any sense about them would think of this the other way around

>>281922565
>47% off on Amazon
Don't tempt me, I'm broke

>>281923295
Alligator is good meat, why would dragons be bad meat?

>>281922565
I wanted to buy it too but the last time I checked it was very expensive

>>281923295
Meat quality depends on what the thing eats, BUT we have solutions to all bad meat flavors/textures. Either via butchering techniques or herbs/spices that remove the gamey flavor. We even sorted out how to cook poisonous fish safely.

I have no doubt once someone got their hands on dragon meat they'd sort out how to cook it right. Sure the first ones probably had a lot of waste. But once chefs got it is only a matter of time before it's peak cuisine.

Even if you liken it to the worst predator meats out there - stuff like parasite infested bear meat or whatever, people still kill and cook bear.

Dragon meat would likely be very close to snake, alligator, and bird meat - lots of lean meat, little fat, mostly "white" meat, not red meat. You'd have to avoid whatever crap makes them spew fire/acid, and avoid spoiling the meat with that. But overall I'd expect it to be generally bland and tough for most bits, with some fat collecting near the gut of the dragon. Stupid easy for humans to fix in other words. I'd also expect dragons nesting on gold to be FAR fattier then their active flying village toasting buddies.

>>281923489
If dragons had to be based on Earth critters and rules, I'd wager they would be more similar to birds - you'd get "white" breast meat, and "dark" wing meat. Given dragon habits, the legs would probably be white since they don't walk around regularly. But that doesn't mean they aren't similar to gators and snakes, because both produce "white" meat.

And being a white lean meat, humans totally know how to cook that shit dozens of very tasty ways. The dark wing meat would be the hardest to deal with, but we know how to make it tasty too.

The fantasy bit that would be hard to deal with is whatever magic/fire production organs are in the dragon. This is the part we can't account for - like if a evil dragon has a corrupt mana core and that just makes all of it's meat taste rotten. Or it vomits acid and has a bile organ that easily ruptures ruining all the meat when you kill it. Crap like that would EASILY make dragon meat a right pain to deal with in a fantasy setting.

the dragons are whales, come on it's blatantly obvious the whole manga is just fantasy whaling

>>281921934
>because she's an oldschool wizardry and ultima nerd
I think she is more of an advanced casual of not that old games that however likes the stuff and mainly the worlbuilding and storytelling aspect of cRPGs
In the interview she says she watched her dad play those old Wizardry games

>>281921807 (OP)
Some of it's just plain luck as things fall into place. When you go back to the early chapters, you can tell there's a lot of things that she hadn't pinned down yet. That said, I consider the ability to lay the solid foundations for your story without incurring crippling writing debt to be the mark of a good author and generally I think Kui did a good job of that.

>>281922171
>no Re Cervin

>>281921934
>dungeon meshi is filled with allusions to Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord
there is one manga that is directly drawing from old Wizardry and fully owns to it, even alluding to the black screen + white wireframe look. Covers resemble the CGA era color palettes.
the Daikatana spinoff of Golblin Slayer. Nowhere near as good as DM, though, t's more of a gimmick or fond whim of the author than some super-good at and story trait.

>>281921807 (OP)
ye its good

>>281924398
If you can't grow a beard just shave it.

>>281924398
>ongoing
>dump threads

>>281922171
>Centuria
it's ok if you still like the shonen formula and its trope
>Bugle
started with something good, the world building went straight in Shonen territory quickly, getting boring desu.
>land of monster
havent read
>Drifting Dragons
like the art, strange cool conceot but the story itself is suffering some sort of progression issue and the main characters doesnt really have any appeal.
>Tower
I do enjoy this one.

>>281924791
he doesn't care about either, it seems
at first I thought he went hobo due to his wife dying, but then it turned out he was like that even before.
Still, it's probably a case of "dude in mediavalish fantasy setting being kind gross as you would expect" kind of realism.

The messy kind of beard made me think he will get shaved by somebody and it will turn out he is a dark bishie all the time under it (he looks it), but it has never happened over the years. Seems the author is fully committed to the slob image.
Expectations dodged, heh.

>>281925118
>cat runs away after two minutes
smart move anon

>>281925043
>the world building went straight in Shonen territory
retard.
stopped reading.

>>281925848
sorry but its a very childish manga, nothing wrong with that

>>281926164
What an odd thing to posture about

>>281922171
How about Touge Oni?

>>281924276
From her interviews I'd say she started out as a casual fan / outsider, but through research she seems to have become a solid fan of the genre. She's played most of the major fantasy CRPGs starting from the IE engine titles and onward. The only one I can think of that she hasn't explicitly alluded to is Arcanum, but I don't even know if that has any sort of nip translation.

>>281922565
>buy volumes as they release
>complete box set with cool container releases
>can't justify repurchasing entire manga just for the box
It keeps happening

>>281924276
She has/had since she has purged her blogs where she posted art a few times at this point, a few pictures she did of the specific Wizardry characters that she was using in one of the games that inspired the main group in Dungeon Meshi. She probably got into those kinds of games from watching her dad play and then trying herself.

Reminder that Kui drew a whole portrait pack for Baldur's Gate 2

>>281922171
>DD
>you vill eat ze whales
>and be reminded every month

>>281928844
I know those pics. It even explains the things like Falin looking like a cleric (she was supposed to be one) and Marcille being able to heal despite being a wizard (she was supposed to be multi-classed into a bishop, a Wizardry's hybrid arcane-divine caster). Lel bishop Mercilel
And Laios learning some magic? She intended him to reclass to Lord, it's what Lord does.
Could be Wizardry 7/8 tho.

black background because that is what wood times Wizardry games looked like

>>281928891
and bg1
and she drew best girl

>>281925043
>started with something good, the world building went straight in Shonen territory quickly, getting boring desu.

lmao quite the opposite started off with shitty shounen generic fantasy slop(native isekai)

turned out to be gene wolfe cosmic horror sci fi kino.

>>281929039
>and she drew best girl
I never knew she drew Ravel__________.

>>281921934
>>281924276
Here. Judge her taste

>>281929097
very woman-core

>>281921807 (OP)
DM is probably one of the most consistently good manga out there and has one of the most perfect ending possible to the story. Women mangaka are very good, especially outside of romance.
When you finish, do read the extra material as said in >>281922420. The world building gets even better.

>>281921807 (OP)
>How come some anonymous japanese woman has better sense of lore building, better character and story writing, better jokes, better concept and better art than 99% of the people working in the industry today?

I obviously can't speak for every anonymous Japanese woman, but Ryoko Kui has a strong appreciation for the aesthetic behind how people live, how things are made, and the mundanity that would still exist within fantasy. Before she did Dungeon Meshi she had already put together 3 short story anthologies that were all fantasy hypotheticals: Terrarium in Drawer, The Dragon's School is on Top of the Mountain, The Works of Ryoko Kui: Seven Little Sons of the Dragon, they're all great and you can read them on MangaDex.

She's also a "huge casual" fan of PC western rpgs: >>281921934 >>281924276 She doesn't play a lot of games, but she consumes a ton of second-hand content: Dwarf Fortress, Wizardry, Baldur's Gate, Skyrim, most Japanese fans of fantasy exposure to the genre tend to begin and end with Dragon Quest or mmorpgs. At the start of the series Dungeon Meshi was a lot more referential to pop-media, but over time when she got comfortable, she started using more material from folklore.

OP here, thanks for the info, I'll check the other stuff. Her being so secretive about her identity yet giving some hints avout here interests makes me wonder what it would be like to date her

>>281929097
can't say I played much of that, it would probably be only bias and preconception of those games I have
>Wizardry 6
Oh. That's still oldschool, given the graphics even compared to W7. I personally draw the line and Dungeon Master. Amberstar/Ambermoon and EoB1, since those were the ones I did as a youngsters. Can't go more old now when I'm old. W7 I missed to window to play, W6 didn't have access to.

>Tokien and Ende
BASED beyond reason

>>281929150
honestly, Octavia I found to be one of the weaker Kingmaker companions, though I didn't try romance. So it feels weird for her to be a highlight. If she wasn't a girl, what would even be her personality? And Camellia is well, if you know you know. She might have not known, mentioning that she was waiting for the non-existent japanese release. She drew her super cute tho.
>Solas one of the highlighted bigger heads.
Now that I can get behind even as a male "only waifus matter" gamer. Based.

and get the load of how cute her Aerie is

>>281929097
I find it fascinating that she played Songs of Syx, though I'm not surprised she liked it.

>>281929097
yep she's around my age in her mid 30s
this is your gamerwife

>>281929325
I was long an Aeriefag but this would make me one if I was not

>>281928721
Impeccable manga, a shame about the TL situation but we will be there next year.

>>281929097
>a woman actually touched Expeditions: Rome
she's a rare breed

>>281922171
Is it just me or does Centuria have awful pacing? We’ve been in the same fight since February

>>281929761
who you chose in BG2 decided the trajectory of your taste in women for the rest of your life.

>>281929858
I thought that was a penis...

>>281929858
IIRC I intended to romance Viconia, as a Drizztshit reader at the time
>Ended up with Jaheira too because of the rewars/being curious.
>I didn't intend to recruit Aerie at all
>but she gets kind of railroaded into the party at the start for a short while in the circus quest
>I was immediately owned, could never kick her out after that (BG1 + 2 had no camp/hub or any mechanism or inactive companions sticking around)
>did the romance, in the end liked it best even if it is vanilla

>>281929097
>Kui came to see Henry
God be praised

>>281929097
Very nice

>>281922175
>Women are not exempt from that rule, so you end up with very cool and unique series you don't find anywhere else in the western world.
You're telling me you don't want to read/watch Critical Role slop?

>>281929150
She drew a better Sera than the one ingame.

>Westshit thread
go back to /v/

>>281928721
>Fantasy and mythology series
>Look inside
>Science fiction

>>281922565
I got this for my niece,

>>281929097
Would kill to see her Thought Cabinet in Disco Elysium.

>>281930439
It's also Lovecraftian.

>>281930593
the Japanese dubbing must be absolutely fucking horrific.

>>281921807 (OP)
>How come some anonymous japanese woman has better sense of lore building, better character and story writing, better jokes, better concept and better art than 99% of the people working in the industry today?

Because the story has a beginning, a middle, and an end. Guts and One Piece, and even Inuyasha, are trash because they don't end, they don't try to resolve anything, they just keep the treadmill going. DBZ and Detective Conan, ends things, even if they pick it up again later with the same characters, at least the previous story is over.
And much of the humour is truth that people don't get along with people, at best they sort of hang around with each other and don't really know them.

>>281928721
>>281922171

Touge Oni is great, someone should drop it regularly so it can enter this list. Also, why isn' t Magus of the library there? There have been a lot drop threads for that manga I think it qualifies for /a/pproved fantasy manga

>>281929097
not saying much but she has better taste than the vast majority of /v/ lmao. makes me want to go on a wrpg binge almost desu

>>281929097
very surprised she's played Disco Elysium. She has good taste, damn

>>281929144
> most perfect ending possible
Eh.. I DO think the ending as a whole is great but its also a bit rushed IMO. I would've really appreciated a bit of a longer epilogue so that Senshi/Chil could get more closure, rather than the overt focus on Laios and Marcille (and Izu, to a lesser extent)

Though I do definitely appreciate that the adventurers bible had a few little extra comics dealing with stuff like Shuro's proposal to Falin, Mithrun deciding on his next course of work, and Laios/Kabru dealing with the political aftermath of the ending.

No real progress on my end, I've been stuck in a rut trying to get her kit to be both fun and unique so I've been switching to the hero version of Leed to at least keep working, but now I have the same problem there now too. It will still happen, but it's gone from snail's pace to glacial pace.

>>281929858
I figured out an exploit to get all three in my first playthrough. Take that as you will.

>>281931700
Looks really good. Take your time.

>>281929097
>the outer worlds
>Starfield
Alright she can't be perfect I guess
>Expeditions: Rome
BASED

>>281929325
>And Camellia is well, if you know you know
Perfect? The cutest? The queen of Drezen? A cinnamon roll who did nothing wrong?

>>281931860
>Queen of Drezen
pic unrelated I guess
here's the actual Queen

Okay but season 2 when

>>281921807 (OP)
Why do people act so gay about stuff they enjoy?

Mithrun is cool

>>281933339
It just specifically this guy and he's making the rounds to spam rpg shit on every board. Hence all the off topic RPG spam from /crpgg/. Reverse search any image in this thread and its all from that general.

There's an extremely mentally ill guy who does this on every single board.

>>281929097
>space haven
>songs of syx
This bitch is cultured I tell you huwhat.

>>281929097
There is no way. But if it is indeed true, then I look forward to her next work.

>>281928721
meh, got bored to tears

>>281922565
Fuuuck, I just bought the bluray set of TNG.
I also bought Daydream and Adventurer's Bible in Japanese when I visited Japan earlier this year. Guess I'll buy this too, because the manga's top tier.

>>281933385
The only good canary.

>>281921807 (OP)
>>anonymous Japanese women
Anon for fuck's sake that women's been toiling and building up her portfolio in the industry for years before she found her big break with Dungeon Meshi. Read her short story collections.

>>281929097
Where do you meet complete retard nerd women like this? I've only interacted with a few in the wild do you have to to D&D clubs and board game groups or somthing?

>>281921807 (OP)
glad you like it, its one of my favourites. but where were you when a new chapter came out on /here/?

>>281929097
>shes played more games than me
>made a wonderful manga
>artist
what am i doing with my life

>>281921934
Are the old wizardry games worth checking out? I plan on playing ultima underworld I & II.

>>281929097
>Wizardry 6 was a big inspiration for dungeon meshi
Of course it was
I'm surprised there's no space ships and wookies in dunmeshi with how heavy the Wizardry inspiration goes

i really like thistle, the elven men shouldn't look so feminine since it confuses me

>>281929097
I'm surprised she's never played Nethack
All you do in that game is storm a dungeon and learn what specific things to eat to get benefits like fire immunity and telepathy and so on

>>281934549
You should at least play the Dark savant trilogy (6 ->8)
The ones older than that have a reputation for being cruel and unusual torture

>>281921807 (OP)
I'm not going to pretend to have in-depth knowledge about the Japanese entertainment industry, but I assume it's because manga as a whole tends to be a more individualistic meritocracy. As an infrastructure, it's more supportive of independent creators. Publishers aren't out there hiring teams of writers, they're looking for submissions from individuals that they judge might be popular. Manga isn't developed by a boardroom and test audiences, it's written and drawn by a single creator with input and advice from an editor or two.

In short, in the west you need to play the game with connections and social politics to get hired like any other job in a supporting role in a creative project in the hopes that you might some day work your way up to calling some of the shots. In the Japanese manga industry it seems like you just need a quality work and a bit of luck to get it the shot to speak for itself. Maybe some connections to really get a submission in the right hands. Of course there are exceptions on both sides, but in the west it just seems a lot harder to get yourself exposure as an individual without working your way up the corporate ladder first.

>>281934764
okay im going to reread it, but see what i mean. with the canaries i had to check their chest and even then i wasn't sure

>>281929097
should add Dwarf Fortress and Darkest Dungeon considering she has done bonus comics on them

>>281934533
You lack focus.

How many times do you think Mithrun has shit his pants

>>281934793
>Dwarf Fortress
no fucking way...
>checks
>it's true
ok, she's way too based for her own good.

>>281929097
>Expedition: Rome
The single most based woman to ever exist.

Anyone know what the deal with Harta spinning off Aokishi is? That's where Kaoru Mori and Aki Irie publish now.

>>281922171
Land of monsters has a tone problem

>>281935275
Elves don't poop
Marcille doesn't count since she's halfu

>>281929852
Yeah I don't really get the love for it. It's fine but damn is it ugly and slow.

>>281931860
"you just with she just pleased old men for money"
"in a game where surprising number of female love interests are former or active cannibals, she managed to be the worst of them"

>>281934533
>shes played more games than me
NGL that one kinda stings unexpectedly, clearly I'm fucked my time flies too fast

>>281934617
She kind of steps away from the gaming themes to make it less meta and more true fantasy. The cRPG inspiration was her starting impulse but she realised it's a burden and quality killer for most stories that draw inspiration from it heavily.

>>281934134
and based

>>281937334
>you just with
wish, even
Also, when not even the party spider is mean to Ember but Camwhore is, that's what should have given you a pause.

>>281936252
I like it. It's getting axed anyway so enjoy it while you can.

>>281936343
retard

>>281922171
Drifting dragons is such a tasteless love letter to the whaling industry.

>>281937334
>>281937540
>Aruefags and wendogs still seething years later
Get over it

>>281938021
over what? tards liking 'muh senseless evil path'?
those were always there

>>281938077
>Over what?
You tell me
You are the one who started seething about cammy out of nowhere

>>281929097
>Kingdom Come Deliverance
That explains A LOT.

>>281937765
nuke the whales

>>281921807 (OP)
If everyone was good no one would be exceptional. I don't understand what you're upset about.

>>281938476
I'm just telling you she's THE worst girl of the game, that's pretty much objective. It's you who saw it in a romance ranking war.

>>281938659
>It's you who saw it in a romance ranking war.
*in a romance ranking war context.
fuck, I should not work and eat and shitpost at the same time

>>281938594
We need another 2 or 3 exceptional mangakas instead of 99.99% of slopp

>>281921807 (OP)
>How come some anonymous japanese woman has better sense of lore building, better character and story writing, better jokes, better concept and better art than 99% of the people working in the industry today?
Autism and legitimate interest and skill.

>>281936008
Mori and Irie both left Aokishi, still hasn't been an announcement on what they're moving to next.

>>281937684
Sure It just feels like the characters don't act natural.

>>281922565
I just looked that up. €184 is a lot of money...

>>281921807 (OP)
Because most mangaka are like this. Take JJK for example.
>Gege made 5 different mangas with different concepts
>One gets picked up
>He starts cooking from there, then shits out the writing and ending but still has to keep going since it’s his livelihood.

Inspired, authentic ones are writers first, mangaka second. They don’t shit the bed like this, they already know what they want to write from the start.

Has she played Rogue Trader yet?

>>281938659
See? Seething again

>>281931671
The thing about epilogues is I think they’re overrated, and I don’t mean that in a jokey or ironic way. Some mangaka drag the story past the real ending for more 'closure,' but that choice ends up watering down the actual theme. Take AoT for example. It could’ve just ended with the bird, but they had to throw in the whole 'war never ends' crap for an extra push that wasn’t needed.

>>281939718
reread the posts you are replying to and your stuff. It appears you are seething about other romances, I didn't even mention them.
I understand you tho, Wenduag "project" was definitely more interesting experience. Arueshalae is rather simple and the voice acting is a step down from that but at least she is nice.

Note: I didn't check on the festival content, don't have the DLC, but could that really save it? I did see a video with the Galfrey-related content and that was surprisingly good.

>>281939642
Wow, two pairs that never happened.

Been thinking of buying the full set and the boxset is nice, but I already have 2 volumes so it almost feels like a waste

>>281924398
I dunno, this one doesn't really have that feeling of medieval adventure for me. Is it doing well?

>>281941355
dunno. Lots of gratuitous nudity and sex, so I'm afraid author was fearing Axe, but since the start of the lewd content, it got 40-50 more chapters, so it probably was intended early on if not from the start.
After all, as dark fantasy it probably looks at Berserk as one of the inspirations and that was lewd as hell.

It would be unfair if it got axed, most undiluted fantasy of fantasy series, atm, I would say.

>>281929039
My first waifu...

>>281941813
Does the little girl get some?

>>281941895
>underage daughteru
you sicko, you have a perfectly good big titty arabian with full bush and this is how you react?

>>281941982
Underage and/or daughter means nothing in dark fantasy settings so yeah, I just asked.

>>281939892
I would trust Kui to be able to write a bit of epilogue material for Chil/Senshi without it being bloated or unnecessary feeling.

That being said, I’m okay with having a ‘I wish there was more’ feeling at the end of a story, and Kui as it was included a whole bunch of extra materials that she didn’t need to for those interested, so it’s not like I’m mad or dislike the ending that we got, it’s just a bit of a lopsided sort of feeling in regard to who in the main party got a lot of attention in the end.

>>281941982
>bush
well, i'm sold at least

>>281941813
>>281941982
Welp, guess I'm picking this up.

>>281942088
>>281942306
no translations

>>281942373
So I guess this author has his own private stash of nude Hanebado girls, right?

>>281924398
I'm always put off by how pathetic that beard looks. So thinned out, as if he doesn't have the density to pull off an actual beard.
As for the series, I'd love to read follow it, since I enjoyed the first few chapters, but the english scanlations seems to be pathetically far behind, or I just don't know how to find them.
On another note, I always read the title as reCervix.

>>281942373
It doesn't matter, keep posting these very relevant pages.

>>281922171
lol no

>>281928991
>>281929013
>Cat was there from the start
The best part is that Senshi was supposed to switch from Warrior to samurai, which means he would become a secondary arcane spellcaster (samurai has spellcasting ability in Wizardry)
Yep, in the proto concept of Dungeon Meshi, Senshi would have a character arc in which he would overcome his fear and loathing of magic and learn it, presumably form Marcille.

Good that she didn't build the story purely on cRPGisms, in the end.

>>281921807 (OP)
Season 2 can't come soon enough.

>>281929097
>Disco Elysium
Sorcery!
Well that fucking explains it

>>281921952
This, it's fucking bad, but guess this quirky shit just hypnotizes normalfags, like Shrek's farting

>>281944313
sorry couldn't resist

>>281944504
It isn't gay if there's a woman involved

>>281944595
fixed

>>281944762
Okay, now I'm dropping it before I even picked up.

>>281944489
>le quirky media!
Its called "comedy", its a genre. Too bad you have brainrot and you only care about "flavor of the week" coomer slop

>>281944821
My reaction too initially but hey, what's a little fanservice for women. Though I think it's really there as a symbol of corruption and dark decay.

It's a pity it's not translated, since as while homo is as much not my cup of tee as anyone's, this king does look like interesting character.
Seems he's struggling with being consumed by gay hornyness possibly, not being able to get it up to impregnate the queen and get a heir, which causes the kingdom to go to shit, then later his pretty boy son which he adored gets gruesomely killed, and still seeing his corpse causes him to get gay aroused. That guy must suffer like hell.

He's not portrayed like a wimp, effeminate or anything, seems he's just a crushed unhappy dude. Could be interesting, but who really knows, without proper TL.

If the Hanebadude managed to make character like that interesting, hats of. Even if I would prefer yet more bushy girls getting fucked silly.

>>281944489
>>281944970
These posters are funny because if anything Dungeon Meshi doesn't target normalfags, it's content is totally for old /tg/ grognards.

>>281945125
>He's not portrayed like a wimp, effeminate or anything, seems he's just a crushed unhappy dude.
I forgot to say, a crushed dude that may have fucked young boys straight after seeing his dead son's body, BUT then he does a Theoden, grabs a sword and fights the dark army or whatever the enemy is.

>>281921807 (OP)
Unironically japanese women are the best mangaka and this comes from a chud
Everytime I like a manga the mangaka is an autistic japanese woman, they can write
>interesting and cool male charactets
>no woke agenda (at least not too preachy like most westoid shows)
>not fraid to be a little politically incorrect sometimes
>mc is never a beta cuck (when the mangaka is a male the mc is ALWAYS a beta cuck)
>the plot is always good or interesting because she's very autistic about some topic most women don't care about, like rts games, old history, retro d&d games, classic western fantasy, etc

>>281944504
This is based as fuck

>>281921807 (OP)
Shit taste, go watch Lodoss

>>281947076
you won't instigate a console war between Lodossfags and Meshifags, fagget

>>281942373
>癒やしてくれ
Ah, it's a healing manga.

>>281922171
>>281936252
>>281937684
>>281938835
I was tricked into reading Mamono by seeing this stupid deer storytimed on the Catalog. She's been the highlight so far, but goddamn the manga's got some major plot and art consistency issues. The premise is very solid while still being very "classic fantasy", so it's a shame to see it get fumbled like this.

>>281931671
Senshi's story was already wrapped up. Chilchuck also didn't have anything that would require more closure.

>>281924398
Probably my favorite of the new "dark fantasy" crop so far. Not really sure why it hasn't caught on as opposed to Centuria, which while fun in its own way is much more battle shonen/Chainsawman(?) than fantasy.

>>281949037
>is much more battle shonen
Could be that very thing that is the reason. Those things are popular, more catchy to lots of folks apparently.

>>281949037
>Not really sure why it hasn't caught on

>>281949272
But that is the result, not the cause.
Popular slop gets translations no problem.
Bush girls erotica with buff dad hero for discerning intelectual audience = no scanlations.

>>281947082
She would such a pain in the ass, it's amazing

>>281921952
Please anon, I'm curious if you're still here to tell us what YOU enjoy

320 posts to go.

>>281947082
Should have been the MC

>>281922171
I recommend Bride of Barbaroi on top of these. It's one of those series that starts okay but after the 2nd volume it gets way better because the author nails down the direction their world building will take.

>>281921807 (OP)
>How come some anonymous japanese woman has better sense of lore building, better character and story writing, better jokes, better concept and better art than 99% of the people working in the industry today?
What's funny is that drawing manga was initially her side gig and her main job was fashion design or something. So she was basically just some random nerd obasan who decided to write a manga and somehow effortmaxxed it because she's Japanese.

>>281953712
That happens quite a lot of time to authors you know. This isn't something you should ever focus on primarily, until you make it.

>>281949732
It isn't popular because it's bad
The other guy just posted only sex scenes because the manga is bad

>>281955946
I'm that guy and and I posted those because /a/ is a horny shithole, whether unironically or ironically..

>>281948934
>>281948934
IMO we should’ve seen Senshi’s emotional reaction to the dungeon being destroyed/him pondering what to do with his life now. As it is we only really get a bit of that through his diary entries which were extra materials.

> Chilchuck didn’t have anything that required more closure
We literally never even see him TRY to reconnect with his estranged wife, which was one of the biggest conflicts in his backstory, and an unresolved part of his ‘I don’t like sharing my emotions if I don’t have to’ character arc.

>>281929097
Just gonna think about marrying her for a while

>>281956588
Senshi said he wanted to be alone and self sufficient. He was always a hobo and his emotional journey ended with the hippogriff.
It would have been nice to see Chilchuck's wife but we didn't need to see her to complete that arc. He learned to share things about himself and promised to show Marcille his family, and then we see them meet. That's what shows this growth. Showing his wife would have just been fanservice.

>>281957374
> he wanted to be alone and self sufficient.
There's obviously much more to his character than that and his backstory made it pretty clear that he was at least in part staying in the dungeon out of guilt/inability to leave the last connection he had to his old 'family' of mining dudes. The dungeon meant a lot to him by the time it was destroyed and yet he didn't really get time in the main story to focus on it/process its loss and what that means for his life now.

> we didn't need to see her to complete that arc.
We didn't NEED to, but it was still something big that was left hanging. Considering we got extra's about things/characters that were comparatively less important, its pretty weird that we never saw Chils wife/his attempt at reconciliation.

> promised to show Marcille his family, and then we see them meet.
They only met the daughters, even though the mother was apparently staying with one of the daughters and she mustve known about the meeting. Its like she was skipped over.

>>281922565
>>281928807
I'm not upset with having bought the volumes individually as they came out, but I am kind of mad about how the Adventure Bible got an updated version that came out after the series was done since I had bought the original version. The updated one has even more side stories and interactions that conclude many of the little side interactions like Falin's answer to Shuro's proposal and other small details.
I hope season 2 finds a way to incorporate a lot of those.

>>281921934
Is she working on any new projects?

>>281929097
> red dead redemption 2

Beyond fucking based

>>281922565
Bought it last month for $100, shit is really nice

>>281929231
>Astarion
Every time

>>281958978
Nothing at this point, I think in some previous interview she said she wasn't sure what she was going to do after this. Might go back to doing more anthologies/oneshots, or start planning another long-form manga.

As things are, I assume she's still going to be involved in making advertisement visuals/extras and other shit for season 2 of the anime, so maybe she's going to wait until thats over before starting a new big project.

>>281958117
Considering S1 didn't even include much of the volume tidbits, I doubt S2 will have the time to include the extra epilogue stories. MAYBE the vol 14 extra since it does feel like the actual end of the story, but I wouldn't be holding my breath.

>>281929150
>>281929231
>"the very popular" Astarion is by far the smallest, down in a corner, in the back, and is basically just a copy of his cover art pose
always amusing

even the adoring fan is drawn with more care

>>281930338
Sera's design translates to 2D much better than 3D, she can be cute in a scrappy messy kind of way, not wholly unlike Fleki.

>>281931200
Magus of the Library is underrated, I'd argue that it has more solid world building than around half that list.

>>281959585
I hope it does. Do they have fewer chapters to work with for the rest of the adaptation than the first half? A lot of those later scenes will likely happen much quicker in animation.

I'm glad that KUI absolutely hate her American Anime convetion meet up. It should further reinforce her to not look foward to their opinion.

>>281924398
I'm a bit conflicted with this manga because I love the setting but I can't helping with the yanking feeling that the editor is fucking over with the pacing of the manga because it feels like story just skip some in between plot or explanation for some purpose. It makes the manga feel slow while and incomplete at the same time??

>>281930338
>>281959645
Sera Grew on me. Would shave name in again.

>>281922565
oh i want this

>>281959830
I think its slightly fewer chapters, S1 ended almost perfectly in the middle of the story. Though I think some of the later chapters in the manga had a higher page count, so who knows, maybe it balances out.

I only hope that there'll be less 3 chapter episodes than S1 had, at that point the story starts getting too rushed. I'd happily give up extra chapter stuff if it meant the main story scenes got actual time to breathe.

i really love dm but i couldn't care less about turn based rpgs, sorry bros

>>281923295
You know, the weird thing is that Japanese people don’t care about whale meat. I live in Japan and the vast majority of people have never eaten whale nor have any interest in it. I see whale meat in the supermarkets in small amounts maybe twice per year and despite being such a rare sight people don’t seem to give any care about it. I have my theory for why Japan is refuses to stop hunting. Also if you want to see countries who really love whale look up Norway, they hunt more whales than Japan despite having a fraction of the population.

>>281960512
Hopefully they make the finale a movie. It did feel like an epic film.

Dungeon Meshi collab with Little World

I'm not entirely sure what Little World actually is. Some kind of museum I think.

>>281961198
Genuinely thought this was just weird fan-art at first.

>>281961198
thats such a cute marcille

>>281933493
It's a janitor doing it.

>>281960907
Movie quality animations of scenes like this would be pretty cool.

>>281961198
Chinachuck...

>>281961272
It certainly doesn't help that none of their outfits match up with their equivalent nationalities.

>>281934793
>she has done bonus comics
Where do I find them ?

>>281961726
Found it.

>>281958978
She made a little oneshot for the Exchange Parties with Anthropomorphs anthology of Harta but she has said on interviews she wanted to rest, so I guess we won't see much from her besides the illustrations she shares on her blog

>>281962327
Blog hasn't updated since june....

>>281959767
Sometimes I think that plays against it. Sometimes it really like the author is giving more atention to the worldbuilding than the story. I mean, the story is still cool but worldbuilding-centered fantasy is hard to sell. Very nerdy stuff

>>281960193
Source? Or is this people losing their minds for that ANN interview again?

>>281962384
She must be having a blast playing BG3 and Civilization 7

>>281962472
It's not something stated in article but from many attendees that went to the event. I was there during her book signing at BookOff and Anime expo event in America. She didn't look very happy at the AX panel. Apparently a blogger told her that a bunch of people who attended her Bookoff signing event cheated the lines and sold off most of her signed book/arts on ebay and it bumped her out. Which was true because there were a lot of complain on the local bookoff IG page after the event.

>>281962875
What does she look like?

>>281963351
figure is similar to Hirosue Ryoko, but slightly chubbier and shorter. she wore mask.
hearsay she pretty old like mid 30 or approaching 40

>>281962875
Ah yeah, I heard about the AX line cutting shit, apparently it was a problem with several people, not just Kui, and the AX workers didn't even do shit about it.

>>281929097
I can only say I'm shocked that Morrowind isn't on here somewhere.

>>281921807 (OP)
Sometimes it happens.
My favorite manga is written by a woman.

>>281931200
>>281959767
I love Magus of the Library, but I need to catch up with it since I'm 2 volumes behind.

>>281947117
Indeed. I would assume that the overlap between Lodoss and Dungeon Meshi fans is certainly above 90%. I can't really imagine someone liking Lodoss, but not Dungeon Meshi, would have to be for very specific reason.

>>281965466
Dungeon Meshi is ma favorite manga and I find RoLW to be extremely overrated.

>>281951983
>ergo proxy
>monster
>texhnolyze
>parasyte
>hellsing
For actually good fantasy
>Maria the Virgin witch
>somali and the forest spirit
>interspecies reviewers

>>281925043
>centuria& buggle are shonen
Anon dont listen to the replies your instinct is right. The art is just too good so readers think the content is smth special.
>>281930338
>>281959645
>She drew a better Sera than the one ingame.
>2D much better than 3D

i think sometimes about that but i know nothing about art so i can´t tell if some features just look better in 2D or if it´s just a favorable drawing....

260 posts to go.

>>281925043
>and the main characters doesnt really have any appeal.
Yeah that's my biggest gripe with DD too, "lol he loves to eat and is two steps from being a savage" is such a boring played out 'pls like this character' trait
Every time he says "I wonder how it tastes" I cringe a little

>>281965728
>interspecies reviewers
It sounds like a joke but anon isn't joking

>>281934738
With how good social media it is these day it is way easier to get your manga spread out and have someone read it rather than throw out by editor if they don't like it

>>281967157
> i can´t tell if some features just look better in 2D or if it´s just a favorable drawing....
Its also absolutely an issue of the skills of the people making the character models, but 2D is generally more forgiving in regards to stylized and unique facial features. Especially in the case where you don't have to worry about small details like weird skin textures or how the lighting might affect someones looks and things like that.

>>281921807 (OP)
When is she going to start her next manga

>>281965728
Based anon

>>281921807 (OP)
>anonymous
Kui had already made a name for herself before DM, at least in Japan. Read the Seven Little Sons of the Dragon and The Dragon's School is on Top of the Mountain

>>281964140
>Hirosue Ryoko, but slightly chubbier
holy fucking SEX

she likes Steven univsrse so there's no point in reading her material

Posting a classic

>>281964140
>chubbier and shorter
I knew it, Dungeon Meshi screams "Im somewhat chubby and short". Id still fuck her

>>281969648
ALL THE WAY IN

>>281969706
I love going from time to time through the weird shit she used to draw a long time ago

>>281969963
wait I didn't know that one
what else is there?

>>281961198
wise mystical kot

>>281961757
>nips can't into fan translation
karmic justice

>>281970063
>spoiler
Lots of things, things you may have already seen or not. She's had several different blogs over the years, all of which don't exist anymore, so I wouldn't be surprised if there's some stuff even I have never seen.

>>281921807 (OP)
It sounds like we read completely different things because the writing and art in this are terrible.

>>281969706
kek

Ending isn't canon btw

>>281972693
what's wrong with the ending?

>>281961232
That's a leg from these totally fucked SEA chickens who got their genes raped hard and are kept in ludicrously cruel circumstances.

>>281973812
What kind of gene altering bullshit is this? Do they also have sharp teeth? You may as well just got all the way at this point and turn them back into dinosaurs so they can terrorize whoever is responsible for this.

>>281973967
In Asia, suffering enhances flavor, so chickum's whose very existence is pain are the most delicious delicacies.
Everything but the leg is discarded or basically turned into cheap ass nuggies in China btw (Vietnam is a tad better because they're poorer)

>>281962384
Probably still stuck working on merch and season 2 lead up stuff.

kui where the HELL is our cute satyr girl manga

>>281974829
>laios is survived by Kensuke inheriting his armor
>his half-dragonchicken sister is a living armor
Oh yeah, posthumous spiritual incest. Fucking based.

>>281974876
Are you okay? Like actually

>>281922171
>Recommend trashy fanfic shit like Bugle Call
It's not even fucking Fantasy

>>281974829
cat tummy

>>281970520
Well lil bro, the thing is, I dont have brainrot, so thats why we have different opinions

>>281964140
i want to know why she copypasted me as the protagonist into her manga desu

>t.owns a longsword, has a dog, favorite food is cheesecake, is socially retarded

>>281975389
retard

>>281921807 (OP)
>>its really good
In what way? It's such a boring fantasy show, and I went in wanting something uniquely interesting.

>better jokes
The jokes are stale.

>better concept
This concept might be okay for an OVA or two, but not for a TV show. It becomes dull and repetitive before long.

>>281922171
This is pretty much all garbage.

>>281923489
Only the tail of alligator is "good" meat and even then you're chopping it up into small little balls, battering them up, adding in a bunch of spices, and then deep frying them tallow or oil. You wouldn't eat it as large grilled slices steaks of alligator tail. I sure as hell wouldn't eat it raw. Wild predators that eat other animals also don't give a fuck if the prey has worms or parasites and often end up with themselves. It's a big reason why you fully cook bear meat and other predatory animals you would hunt.
>>281923834
>>281923834
>birds
Then you sure as hell aren't going to eat that raw.

The anon is right about how the mangaka is basically taking whaling to equating it to dragons but it is kind of stupid because the whale oil and fat and other by-products are more of the reason for whaling than the meat itself.

>>281922171
All great manga.

>>281976819
>literal rat person
>great
Bro, why are you defending garbage? Please tell me how an ugly design like that could be great? Please enlighten me. Because that shit looks like the opposite of cool or something aesthetic. From my perspective, it seems like you despise fantasy. Something like pic related is way better.

For me it's Kui's Fitness Boxing girl

>>281977203
schizo

>>281928721
>>281953046
>>281924398
These seem like westoid shit for people who hate anime and superior Japanese fantasy.

>>281977203
>From my perspective, it seems like you despise fantasy
Your perspective is fucking retarded

>>281977537
Bro, at least make a counterargument.

>>281977562
At least he's not defending a literal rat thing.

>>281977617
>arguing with schizos

>>281977691
>>281977537
>>arguing with schizos
If "schizo" is the only word in your vocabulary, then you don't belong here. There is a minimum level of literacy and IQ required for posting on 4chan.

>>281977738
>There is a minimum level of literacy and IQ required for posting on 4chan
One which you clearly do not meet considering your post

>>281977738
>schizobabbling

>>281977784
You're illiterate.

>>281977772
stop projecting

>>281977823
>more schizobabbling

>>281977842
>scizo again
Case in point. That's the only word you know.

>>281977907
I love Scizor!

>>281976787
They literally served a whole alligator leg in the Dungeon Meshi cafe. Carnivorous fishes are tasty, chicken will gladly cannibalize each other and taste fine. Also grazers get to eat a lot of plants near the ground along side parasite eggs from literal shit. Parasites are in all levels of the food chain and can come from food, from water, from mosquitoes, from the soil, did you know you can get worms by walking barefoot or swimming in water? No need to eat or drink anything, the worm pierce through your skin and find its way through your body.

>>281976787
Chicken sashimi is a thing but requires a very specific preparing and hygiene standards similar to preparing fugu.

>>281978493
A good reason to properly heat-process every meat or fish product. Fuck sushi!

I took the same path as OP, started the anime just because it looked like stupid fun. Fell in love with it, read the manga to read the ending and it became in my top 10 as well

Worse part is, I can't even explain exactly why, but I just loved every second of this manga. It was different from anything else I read or watch

>>281978996
>I can't even explain exactly why, but I just loved every second of this manga
Great characters? Great humor? How you can tell by the top-notch worldbuilding and side content that the author loved her own creation? Sometimes, it's just that shrimple.

>>281978493
>They literally served a whole alligator leg in the Dungeon Meshi cafe.
I lived in the swamps of the south east. No one eats alligator legs in real life and every restaurant that serves alligator is only alligator tail. I can't imagine how poor, south american, or asian you'd have to be to eat alligator leg.

>>281936008
Aokishi had a renewal in April and stopped doing the A/B division.
https://note.com/aokishi

Continuing:
Odekake Zame
Oneesama to Watashi
Tsuraneko
Megarosalia
Forest Ivy
Chingochou Futsuryoukyoku Ukeika
Kemuri no Mukou ni Koe ga Kikoeru
Shikabane Kaigo
Neru Neru Nerune
Gugagumoguruten

Ended in 23-27:
Akuma wa Yurikago wo Utau
Gimme Agree
Leda no Majutsushi
Rolling Stardusts
Madobe no Linoa
Elena no Kyoka (though the author has a new serializatioon)
Kyouen no Pipe
Vitro Anima
Hamburger-chan Enikki

Unclear (no appearance since 25):
Onban Kikou
Piccolina
Devil's Candy
Stone Flower (was in 25 but hasn't shown up since)
Otoyomegatari
Hokuhokusei ni Kumo to Ike

There have been a handful of new series but not enough to make up for the losses.

>>281977543
You don't like anime and Japanese fantasy anywhere near as much as you think you do if you couldn't instantly recognize one of them as Japanese.

>>281977543
>and superior Japanese fantasy.
There's hardly any real Japanese fantasy these days outside of stuff like Kijin Gentoushou (which hilariously enough turns into a high school setting eventually). I suppose Turkey counts, too. But literally all other Japanese fantasy is derivative of Tolkien, D&D, Ultima, and Wizardry.

>>281980977
Which manga magazines do you normally read?

>>281980977
I mean anime

>>281981295
and I'm retarded and meant to reply to this anon>>281981138

>>281981335
>>281981295
Anime will always only be a tiny portion of the spectrum and even then you got something every other season.

>>281979862
Closest thing to dragon

>>281978801
Did you even read the post? You don’t even need to eat anything to get worms, the on in the picture enters you through your skin and it is not the only one.

>>281981708
and? was your point some sort of "I could die from any reason anyway, so why use seatbelts or look before crossing streets" argument?

>>281977543
>complaining about western inspired fantasy in a meshi thread

>>281981917
It's bait

>>281977543
Japanese fantasy is just Wizardry, which is an american game. Actual JAPANESE Japanese fantasy is unironically 2hu and not much else mainstream.

>>281923295
>Hunting then for their thick hide, scales, organs, bones or for pest control all make more economic sense
they also do all of those things

>>281961779
This reminds me that there's an anon doing a Dungeon Meshi mod for Darkest Dungeon

>>281974829
>kot in thumbnail

>>281982977
Well he just so happens to be in this thread

My only complaint about Dungeon Meshi is that it was translated to Delicious in Dungeon instead of something like Dungeon Dining or whatever. Would hit the D&D thing too.

>>281978996
It's tolkienesque
t.never read tolkien

>>281983171
Just be glad we didn't get Dungeons, Drive-Ins and Dives

>>281983171
I like it, it's got that cheesy "jap trying to come up with a cool english title but failing" quality to it. But something like "Luncheons & Dragons"' would have been fun, too.

>>281980241
The other replies are just as ignorant.

>>281983510
One of them is especially egregious because it's literally set in Japan and based on Japanese mythology

>>281983562
Yeah, it's unapologetically Japanese.

>>281983363
Thank god for small f(l)avors, I suppose.

>>281983363
In french it's worse, it's called Gloutons & Dragons, I think you can figure out these two words and how poorly it is translated

>>281980178
>Tsuraneko is still alive.
Phew.

>>281972809
>>281972859
My favourite skin tone, more mangakas should use it.

>>281977203
>other, non-humanoid races?
>not good fantasy
>now, a generic anime girl holding a sword, that's fantasy

>>281978493
The alligator leg at the cafe was just for the meme, I've seen reviews saying the meat was chewy and that there was barely any meat ON the thing to begin with.

So, how smelly is she?

>>281982977
>>281983103
I wish I liked Darkest Dungeon, that sounds awesome

>>281924726
>Daikatana spinoff of Golblin Slayer
is this still getting scanlations? Haven't seen a new chapter in ages

>>281922171
Oh I never heard of land of monsters, ty anon.

>>281983103
Oh yeah.
>>281931700

>>281965728
>interspecies reviewers

kek this is alright

>>281986914
official releases are there

>>281987165
ty anon, guess I'm already all caught up.

>>281937765
I heard whale meat isn't all that great, but it must be thrilling taking down something that big

>>281964501
I had to handle queues for signings and events in general for my local expo as a teen, I found it difficult to prevent people from cheating the queue or just being jerks to each other. Honestly I just didn't expect it, when I volunteered for the role I thought I'd just zone out for a few hours and then go see some stands. I remember this one guy with his kids trying to cut in at the very front, to my surprise there were actually a few people in the queue supporting it since his kid started crying.

Thx for reading my blog

>>281974107
I remember reading that the major chicken companies in America export almost all the chicken feet to China because they make soup or something out of them. Not the legs, just the feet.

Did they fuck up their own chickens so much that those massive chicken feet don't taste right in their cultural dishes anymore?

>>281987915
Makes sense since at least at AX a lot of the queue minders were just volunteers who don't really know how to deal with those situations verbally + presumably aren't actually allowed to physically pull people out of the line if they cut.

>>281989109
exactly, if it was anything like my local convention they just put a bunch of teens with 0 work experience in a difficult situation with no resources or instructions and hoped it would work out. I didn't even have the worst job, my roommate spent a whole day handling the entrance queue outside in the snow lol, he was so sad he didn't even get to see anything happen in the actual convention that this mildly famous guy at the closing afterparty invited us to the after-afterparty with the rest of the semi-celebs, so at least there's a happy ending (for him at least, I smoked my first joint that night and passed out in a bush onthe way home)

>>281921952
You have no taste at all

>>281990009
I'd rather have no taste at all than enjoy a manga written by a female author who draws inspiration from Steven universe

>>281968940
>Steven universe
>>281991258
>Steven universe
obsessed much?

>>281931200
>>281929809
I had Touge Oni on my backlog forever now. Didn't seem like it'd be my jam, but cracked it open based on your posts. Very glad I did. Read right through the first volume. Thanks

>>281976532
>>281987687
>retards pretended they read the series

>>281992447
>fantasy can't have sci-fi elements
ahem

>>281992218
You should go with the official translated version since the fan translator is dead. The terms you'll see later are translated differently, even Miyo's age is different.

>>281992486
it's fucking obvious the author's making shit up as he goes, to the point he has no idea what he is writing anymore, if the latest chapter was not so painfully obvious

>>281922171
>Haven't read Bugle Call
>seems interes----
>>281992613
>>281992447
>>281975389
Thank you anon, almost falling for /a/ bullshit yet again.

>>281992768
Why are you thanking yourself?

>>281992574
Yeah, that's the one I'm using. Just read the 2nd volume. Even better than the first. I'll have to try the other series mentioned in this thread too. A potential gold mine I've stumbled on here.

>>281992574
Why would you go with that over the Japanese one?
First time seeing 数え年?

>>281994610
>Just read the 2nd volume. Even better than the first.
Oh boy, you haven't seen anything yet.

Only good thing comming out of this is Falin Chimera Futa x Marcille

>>281992768
Same, anon, I hate those type of switch baiting manga where you presented a fantasy story, then decided out-of-the-blue "hey, I have no idea how to keep this story interesting, so let's make it a twist that it's actually the future all along, bet they won't see this coming" just for cheap shock value.
I haven't read Centuria, Tower Dungeon is good, Drifting Dragons is okayish, Land of Monsters is either waiting to be axed or won't last past 50 chapters at this rate with the way each act is building up, The Buggle Call is outright trash

>>281994943
>won't last past 50 chapters at this rate
There's very few manga that get 50 chapters. 25 is already a huge accomplishment.

>Hien
Hien.

>>281942373
What happened to the translations? I can find some early chapters translated, anyone know why they stopped?

>>281921952
spbp
read more books

>>281992768
>>281994943
>samefagging this hard

>>281995848
You need to stop caring about translations.

>>281921807 (OP)
you just like this shit because you are autistic and characters are unattractive.
Aka: hobby invader

>>281984993
That's still fine, in my language it's translated in such an unfortunate way that it sounds like a name of some obscure German porno.

>>281984993
I don't really see the problem, it sounds similar to "Dungeons & Dragons" and works well enough. Could be better, I guess, but could also be way worse.
>>281997178
>it sounds like a name of some obscure German porno
Do tell

>>281997262
>Labužníci v kobce
It's hard to carry the double entendre back to english but it's basically both Gourmets in a Dungeon and Perverts in a Cell. Really odd choice.

>>281929097

Holy Wife

>>281965728
>>Maria the Virgin witch
good taste

>>281986194
>replying with a strawman
>using a retarded buzzword like generic
Other races are fine, they just need to look attractive. A bipedal rodent is not attractive.

>other, non-humanoid races?
Can be great if made attractive like pic related. I love elves.

>>281956588
Chilchuck did bring his Family to meet Marcille post-Canon, and ys this is from Kui, its her drawing thanking her editors

>>281998171
Why is the old man (Chilchuck) so sexy?

>>281998027
>no wife to be seen

>>281934549
Early Wizardry games are quite inaccessible even by 80s RPG standards.

>>281997937
Not everything is or should be in the service of making your dick hard and judging designs on whether they do or don't is retarded.

>>281997371
Crazy

>>281998436
Start with Wizardry 5 or the Gaiden games if you want a bit less bullshitty but still challenging game. You can even transfer characters from 5 to 1-3 if they're on compatible platforms.
But Wizardry 1 is outstanding compared to anything else before 1985. It's very professional and well crafted unlike the usual amateur releases of the time. Instead of an endless diarrhoea of random generated crap it had a real dungeon to explore where different levels had their own flair and atmosphere.
It's a shame the series stagnated with 2 and 3 just being gimmicky addons that are literally unplayable without the first game and 4 may as well be considered as a "Fuck You" to folks demanding a bigger challenge.
By the time DW Bradley came on board with fresh ideas, the series had already been sidelined by Ultima and copycats.

>>281934549
Underworld 1 is fairly standalone but Underworld 2 is a direct continuation of Ultima 7's story and is more enjoyable if you're familiar with Ultima 4-6.

>>281998706
>someone actually took the time to make this

>>281921807 (OP)
Okay, I'm not a critic or expert on writing. Having said that, I can't agree on the writing being good for the simple reason that it is painfully boring.

>>281924742
good for curing insomnia

>>281998526
>another strawman
I just think designs should look aesthetic and cool. That rat thing looks like garbage. pic related is a better example of a non human species

>>281973700
ghastly

>>281999315
>non human species
>it's just a girl with cat ears

>>281999354
>can't see the tails
I guess you're blind.

>>281998748
I'm aware of what entries are less bullshitty. What I mean is that while Wizardry is more technically outstanding and well-thought-out than any early 80s RPG, it's also way more challenging than anything that came out at the time by design. Ultima 1 for example, while amateurish and lacking direction, is noticeably more accessible and enjoyable by someone who is looking for a fun game and not some herculean challenge. If you look at any other 80s RPG title, it's clear as day that no one was really striving to be as challenging as Wizardry. That's why I call the early games (1-5) quite inaccessible.

>>281999226
your favorite show?

>>281999494
Mushoku Tensei aka an actual good fantasy.

Bait.

>>281999537
Funny, I think both are great shows, thus i am superior to you.
Get owned.

If there's one thing shitposters can be credited for, it's dedication. DM threads have been a thing on /a/ for at least a decade, and in all that time there were a few trolls here and there (it wouldn't be 4chan otherwise), but never as bad as it's been recently. The anime premiered last year, they've been at it non-stop even after season 1 ended, and they'll keep at it during season 2 and possibly after that too.

Sure, their narrative is always the exact same ("it's boring", "characters are ugly", "it's westoid shit", etc), they're not making that much of an effort to be subtle (though retards take their bait anyway so they don't even need to)... but they're certainly dedicated, I'll give them that.

>>281999709
>"it's westoid shit"
Is that supposed to be wrong? The author herself admits to drawing inspiration from Steven universe kek

>>281999709
The main obvious things that stand out about DM are that it's boring and ugly though. The average girl from a japanese animation looks attractive while the average girl from DM looks like she needs a nosejob.

>>281999576
MT has an interesting plot and world. It's a fun story with great action. Dungeon Meshi is really boring by comparison and action scenes are a slideshow. Do I need to tell you how bad episode 4 was?

>>281921807 (OP)
desu i don't see how autism equates to "better character writing"

>>281922171
They all look like they have shit art. These don't look like LNs.

>>281929097
It's all western shit.

>>281999772
>The author herself admits to drawing inspiration from Steven universe
Source?

>>282000258
>Source?
his gaping asshole. kui never said that

>>282000258
From an anonymous source on a reputable japanimation image board

>>281999709
It's the sad spammer who shits up every TRiGGER thread, he's been going at Panty&Stocking whole season.

>>282000411
Or maybe /a/ doesn't fellate the lazy triggertrash you love to shill.

>>281998706
>complaining about what are mostly good tropes
Why lie like this? Because the average person here is too low IQ to call out your bullshit? Just be frank and say you hate Japanese fantasy. Your shitty chart is patently inaccurate. Isekai like Iseleve don't have reincarnation scenes. Not every character in Frieren has a class. Konosuba doesn't have a powerful MC. Re:Zero & Youjo Senki don't have demon lords. There are no "schools, guilds, exams" in Hamefura. Noukin isn't a Harem, there is NO maleshit in the cast at all. You think something needs to be boring and westernised like dung meshit for it not to be "native isekai".

>>281998853
A deceitful retard who hates Japanese style fantasy made it.

>>282000496
>Japanese style fantasy is when you rip off Tolkien
>Japanese style fantasy is when dungeons
>Japanese style fantasy is when harems
Kek

>>282000542
>it's a ripoff because I say so
>western and eastern style fantasy cannot share any commonalities
Retard.

>>282000542
>deflecting
>can't counter any of the points anon made
You got obliterated.

>>281999410
>it's also way more challenging than anything that came out at the time by design
All other RPG were Rogue-likes even before Rogue was released in 1980 and those can become an insurmountable challenge.
>Ultima 1 for example, while amateurish and lacking direction, is noticeably more accessible and enjoyable by someone who is looking for a fun game and not some herculean challenge.
Ultima 2 on the other hand is just crap and wasted potential. Without a guide you'd just endlessly stumble around trying random shit in hopes of understanding what went on in LB's mind.
Wizardry outside of 4 is perfectly manageable and a lot of games aren't fun because they're too easy.
There's other games that tried to be hard but didn't strike the right balance. Bard's Tale 2 for instance turns into a slog where you're always completely overpowered by the monsters of a dungeon or completely overpower them. Might & Magic 2 turned the numbers up to 11 and the result is mainly busywork.
In Wizardry the challenge comes from managing limited resources and figuring out tactics and weaknesses. Xanadu is the only game that gave me a similar experience.
Wizardry 6 is less accessible due to the way it just throws you into the castle with limited revival options for fallen characters or even a directly accessible shop. Mapping without DUMAPIC or clear dungeon limits is also a beast.

>>281996604
i don't want to become autistic

>>281999143
There are two simplified Japanese versions of Wizardry IV. One is the PCE-CD port and the other the Arrange version in New Age of Llylgamyn for PS1 and Windows. Those give you fixed number of monsters and direct control over their actions. 胎魔の鼓動 for SFC is just the fourth Gaiden game.

>>281995657
This design is proof that a nose is all it takes to ruin a character. I want to puke.

>>281999709
They're why I watched the show. I figured if their retarded complaints were any indication, the show must be pretty good, and I was right.

>>282000598
theres no such thing as Autism.

The whole concept of psychology was invented by the vearious Ashkenazi jews to intellectualize their inferiority of their people culture vs the Anglo-Saxon WASP in the Ellis island by calling High Thymos individual mentally ill.

>>282000598
too late

>>281999709
I don't know if "dedication" is the right word. It seems more like a neurotic compulsion.

>>282000015
>Dungeon Meshi is really boring by comparison
cool opinion
>and action scenes are a slideshow
lol
You have no argument, just opinions. Shitty ones. Cool bro, idc that your worthless ass can't see a quality show.

>>282001901
>You have no argument, just opinions.
You're braindead and need to learn the different between fact an opinion, illiterate retard. It's a fact that dung meshit episode 4 had abysmal action and was lazy garbage.

>Cool bro, idc that your worthless ass can't see a quality show.
This fucking ugly slideshow is worthless meanwhile Mushoku Tensei is filled with action sakuga.

>>281997385
I don't like it because it failed to carry over the hidden meaning that's it's the labužník that is the labůžo for the kobka.

Also, I'd never though RPG dungeons are called kobky in czech. Weird title.

>>281998706
Nice. There will be much seething.

>>281999537
pottery

>>282000578
>All other RPG were Rogue-likes even before Rogue was released in 1980 and those can become an insurmountable challenge.
You mean proto-RPGs by college students that ran on mainframe computers and other likewise oddities? I don't take them into account. Everyone was still trying stuff out, most of the difficulty comes from uncertainty and experimentation. I mean 80s games in particular, the ones for personal computers that more or less resemble RPGs we think of today. The oldest one I can speak of is Akalabeth, which is easier than Wizardry for its sheer simplicity either way.
>Ultima 2 on the other hand is just crap and wasted potential. Without a guide you'd just endlessly stumble around trying random shit in hopes of understanding what went on in LB's mind.
Ultima 2 is a kafkaesque, ahead-of-its-time shitpost.
>Wizardry outside of 4 is perfectly manageable
...for a grognard. Dunno, couldn't enjoy them. If there were manual saves, I'd have a blast. Just outside the dungeon, how Ultima does it. There's a lot to love, but the monsters are way too mean for my liking.

>>281999709
or just dumb contrarians found the seires when it got anime

>>281921807 (OP)
>How come some anonymous japanese woman has better sense of lore building, better character and story writing, better jokes, better concept and better art than 99% of the people working in the industry today?
This reeks of newfaggotry. You need to watch more than 10 fantasy shows. Dungeon Meshi is pretty bottom of the barrel.

>>282002213
>between fact an opinion
got the opinionated midwit so mad that he can't even type properly, love to see it
feel free to rewatch the show when your taste gets better

>>282002709
>deflection
Loser.

>>282002504
Yeah and let's not get into why you should never name anything "labůžo" ever
>Also, I'd never though RPG dungeons are called kobky in czech.
Especially when there's perfectly good localization in "Dračí doupě"
So you could easily do something like
>Dračí degustace
>Degustační doupě
>Draci v troubě

>>281999709
Did you actually read the OP or are you just an anti-schizo schizo?

>>281992447
I maintain my statement: retard.

>>282002951
>Hostina v Dungeonu
IMHO
a case where the foreign word may be better

>>282003012
nevermind the OP, did you not pay attention to this whole thread? the plague it's being infected with?

>>282003060
What the fuck is the point if its like that? Hien's shnoz is a crucial aspect of her design, same as Patty.

>>282002860
>still no arguments

moron

>>282000496
>Why lie like this? Because the average person here is too low IQ to call out your bullshit? Just be frank and say you hate Japanese fantasy. Your shitty chart is patently inaccurate. Isekai like Iseleve don't have reincarnation scenes. Not every character in Frieren has a class. Konosuba doesn't have a powerful MC. Re:Zero & Youjo Senki don't have demon lords. There are no "schools, guilds, exams" in Hamefura. Noukin isn't a Harem, there is NO maleshit in the cast at all. You think something needs to be boring and westernised like dung meshit for it not to be "native isekai".
loving this, midwit essays are one of the best parts of /a/

>>282003060
Okay, thank you. That nose looks a lot better. I'm not biased against Dungeon Meshi, I'm just genuinely disgusted by some of the abhorrent design features.

>>282003124
Not him. The OP is horrible bait and is written like a hyperbolic shill post.

>>282002633
Roguelikes existed on personal computers. Akalabeth and Ultima 1 still fall into that category. Personally I fund Akalabeth nowhere near as fun as Ultima 1.
RPGs as we known them are derived from Wizardry with its party system and character development. It took the ideas from TT RPG like D&D and transformed it into its own experience.
The first Ultima like that was Exodus and it still had odd elements like raising your stats with money in Ambrosia and character levels with limited impact.
Wizardry 5 saves outside of the dungeon and you can juggle with multiple floppies if you want backups. 4 actually gave you manual saves.

>>282003240
Dung meshit episode 4 had terrible action. It was bad because of that. It was a lazy, ugly slideshow full of corner cutting. I don't think I can dumb it down for you any more than that, Sherlock. Meanwhile Mushoku has awesome fight scenes like this. Call me when dung meshit has something like this.

OP here, already on chapter 70, so good. Also, for those saying I was baiting or some dumb shit, you can suck my 16cm dick

>>282000148
dumb retard

>>281976532
>>281987687
>>282003072
haha seethe more

>>282003824
The first thing that stood out to me about those were that they had shit art. Maybe that's why you shill them lol, your taste is abhorrent.

>>282003819
>16cm dick
hard or flaccid?

>>282003819
favorite character so far?

>>281923349
Damn! Only $120 is a steal, thanks!

>>281944762
Just helping everyone find the woman inside.

>>281923096
I remember reading the first chapter and going "is this just a fantasy whaling manga?" That's not why I stopped reading it though, I stopped reading because it was boring.

>>282003983
Semi
>>282004153
I find them all likeable desu, but I would say Captain Mithrun

>>282005671
Native isekai is a subgenre of fantasy.

>>282000488
Nah.

>>282000183
>Zelda
>Dragon Quest
>Fire Emblem
Not all, but the larger majority, sure.

>>282005788
cope shill

>>281929231
>Oh. That's still oldschool, given the graphics even compared to W7.
The SFC version looks a lot better than the original EGA. In particular it's no longer limited to a single type of wall.
There's also the Saturn version that has 6 and 7 in one package.

>>281929097
>Life is strange

>>282003686
>ignores the s2 which was much worse quality than dungeon kino

>>282000258
The lion, there's a lion with the same powers in Steven universe. also the dungeon is alive and rebuilds itself, Steven universe is about living rocks that rebuild themselves. Senshi looks like Steven as a child and his father when an adult

>>281964573
It's definitely not a complete list. I know she likes Skyrim because she drew Ancano once.

>>281929097
>Disco Elysium
>Red Dead
>Witcher 3
>Dad of Boy
Kui likes grizzled old white men

>>281922171
I read all of these fine works.

>>282007590
>faggot who only know Steve Universe thinks everything is a Steve Universe reference
Dungeon Meshi “Winged Lion” is just a part of an all powerful eldrith abomination connected to the other dungeons as well. It only have a lion shape because the lion already was part of the kingdom imagery. It have nothing to do with Steven Universe

>>282007590
If anything the lion feels like a satire of the one in Narnia's universe

I miss Dungeon Meshi and pic related like you wouldn't believe.
>>281965728
But I've read/watched all of those save for Parasyte and Somali and thoroughly enjoyed them, just like I did Dungeon Meshi.

>>282007590
>Steven universe invented winged lions
You are THIS fucking retarded. Holy shit...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winged_lion
>the dungeon is alive and rebuilds itself, Steven universe is about living rocks that rebuild themselves.
Bit of a stretch
>Senshi looks like Steven as a child
True
and his father when an adult
False

>>281998706
Good thing dungeon Meshi does not fall into any of these

>>282010378
>I miss Dungeon Meshi
It was tough, coming to terms with its end. The chapter dumps and storytime threads were a lot of fun, too. Hopefully Kui's almost done with everything related to the anime and also BG3/Pathfinder/whatever the fuck that nerd is currently into so we get to see her next project soon.

>>282010378
Is pic related a puppet show?

>>282011444
it's glove puppets yea

>>282012245
What's the name of the show? Filename didn't show anything when I googled it.

>>282012372
thunderbolt fantasy

>>282010949
Hopefully. It was a good ride, though.
>>282011444
Yes. Written by the Urobutcher, brought to life by Taiwanese puppet masters. Also, nice trips of death.

>>281929097
zoomer

>>282014030
retard

>>282003686
> characters needlessly flipping around at 10x speed and cuts every second

oh yeah, great fight, totally not a chaotic mess.

>>281921807 (OP)
Dungeon Meshi is probably the best fantasy manga ever written, and I say that having read Berserk. Mainly because Berserk went to shit eventually, but still.
The only reason people shit on it is because their own personal favorite isekai slop looks like complete ass next to it, so they need to whine and complain with crab mentality to even the playing field. As if I'd listen to that kind of retard anyway, lol.
Frieren is pretty good, just not nearly as good.
Mushoku Tensei and other isekai slop dogshit series don't even come close.

>>282017540
I don't really get the appeal of Frieren beyond people just enjoying the wacky spell fights.

It's basically impossible to feel invested in whats going on since nearly every character acts like a deadpan robot who barely emote and just calmly analyze every problem they face as though they're an outside observer, even when they're putting their lives on the line. Makes sense for Frieren herself to be that way (and to potentially grow OUT of it as part of a character arc), but not everybody.

>>282017634
I agree with you, I've said much the same, I just prefer to avoid taking shots at the series because I don't want to sink to their level.
I don't need to shit on Frieren because Frieren's success/failure doesn't effect me in any way. If people like it, cool. I think it's cute. It's premise is cool and unique. I just don't think it has much else going for it, in character writing, comedy, worldbuilding, larger narrative, etc. I don't think it matches up to Dungeon Meshi on literally any metric, but that doesn't make it BAD, it just means Dungeon Meshi is way better.

>>282017634
>beyond people just enjoying the wacky spell fights
There are barely any until the last episodes

>>282017634
>every character acts like a deadpan robot who barely emote and just calmly analyze every problem they face as though they're an outside observer
Your grievance is highly illogical

>>281995657
I want to plap this ugly jap

>>282019927
Even she knows that without the schnozz she would be destabilizing all of japan.

>>281921807 (OP)
Legit the worst anime of 2024, and that says a lot.

>>281921807 (OP)
Daily reminder that shitting on this and frieren is just the new "Overrated Anime" thread featuring a picture of Monster
literally the same posters because they realized nobody's falling for their ages-old bait anymore

>>281992613
NPC detected

>>281929097
I love this woman.

New popup shop with camping themed merch soon.

>>281921807 (OP)
tried to like this, dropped the anime after the part they killed the dragon, for me the forced soul was too evident, should have been more subtle, like in tower dungeon

>>282022451
gonna be real, I hate like 90% of meshi merch, its almost all lazy shit like acrylics, keychains and other random stuff branded with obvious logos and stuff.

>>281921807 (OP)
I think it's impressive how the manga actually improved over time where normally it feels like a manga gets worse throughout its run. This has probably one of the single greatest endings of any recent manga it's so rare to feel satisfied like that from a modern work.

>>282023056
That's just anime merch in general. They're mostly neat trinkets you buy spontaneously rather than rare collectibles.

>>282023261
just wish there were more things like the official shirts based on Kui's drawings or the wooden mugs with the dungeon meshi emblem thing on them (there are a few other pieces like that but they also have a big "DELICIOUS IN DUNGEON" logo or some shit around it that sort of ruins the subtle branding.)

>>281994691
The story of the small god was really sad. It's nice that its tools came up in a hilarious way. This story's got it all

What's with all the whalefags in this thread shitting on DD with incorrect information.
>They only kill them for the meat
Clearly haven't read the manga, because they eat the meat, collect oil, use the scales/hide for tapestries and presumably other things, bury the remains to clean the bones for later use. "Ambergris" substance for perfume. I'm pretty sure they also use the dragon's flight organ to literally create their aircraft, as well as a lot of dragon hunting for nuisance/dangerous dragons. Equating dragons to whales is just an easy comparison and the widwits way of justifying hating a series that goes pretty far to show you the nuances of why the dragons are hunted, what's done with them and the surrounding world building that makes the justification for hunting dragons quite different from whaling. Can't say some of the characters aren't one sided (mika) but people claiming the entire cast is one-noted clearly haven't read Vanabelle's arc, pic related arc with Takita or the various small side-character things that happen throughout the series. Just sounds like a bunch of butthurt whalefags refusing to read a series because muh whales are too precious.

>>282023651
Best god.

>>282005647
>Captain Mithrun
Best choice

>>281921807 (OP)
This is sssoooooooooooooo boring. I hope they never make garbage like it again.

>>281922171
More like /co/ approved. At least I know what to avoid now.

>>281929097
I feel like vomiting, it's like the soul of a westerner possessed a japanese person. We need an exorcism.

>>281930366
these garbage eaters sbould go back to /co/

>>281933337
Hopefully it never comes. Other shows have been cancelled before. We don't need more boring shit.

>>281929325
ugly ears

>>281929144
>DM is probably one of the most consistently
It's consistently boring.

>nd has one of the most perfect ending possible to the story.
Nah. All the main characters have plot armour and there is no real sense of loss. None of the main characters ever die for real.

>>281921952
OP post reads like someone was paid to post it.

>>282023134
Did Tattun pay you to post this shit? Laios Killing the winged Lion felt anticlimactic.