It's Eliover for original non-sequel films for Disney and Pixar, as Elio is set up to be the biggest bomb in the company's history. Planned just like Winnie the Pooh 2011 was meant to end theatrical 2d films from the company.

How is it even possible to spend 300m on the most mid shit ever?

>>149113931 (OP)
MUAHAHAHAHAHA!
Damn are millennials broke now too? Those DEI cuts affected everything.
Was there even any woke shit in it? Or was it just boring or both?

>>149113931 (OP)
the marketing for this was god awful, all the alien designs look like ass, and the protag looks like a lame autistic dweeb. least surprising bomb ever.

What happened to his eye?

>>149113966
Tons of rewrites and staff changes kept delaying it.

>>149113931 (OP)
What the fuck is this thing

>>149114059
Elio

>>149114059
Disney's autistic superhero for kids

>>149113984
This is also a tranny cartoon

>>149113931 (OP)
Im a europoor and I havent even heard of this fucking movie

>>149114107
Yes Elio 100 percent is, idk why they thought normies in the year of 2025 was gonna do well.
Even cutting out the woke stuff, normies are still gonna be extremely cautious.

>>149114122
>normies
it's always extremely obvious when a tourist like you is desperately trying to fit in.

>>149114107
Yes Elio 100 percent is, idk why they thought normies in the year of 2025 was gonna do well with them.
Even cutting out the woke stuff, normies are still gonna be extremely cautious.

>>149114148
No I just don't watch shitty movies, it's my choice to watch and shaming me is just gonna make me not watch it even more.
There's a reason why it's failing Anon.

>>149114152
Yeah, Elio and that crappy 2DBbeanmouth cartoon you posted are globohomo goyslop

>>149113931 (OP)
>Pixar's lowest opening of all time
Lower than those ones they rereleased after the lockdowns ended? Because holy shit.

>>149114175
So we agree Elio is shit?
I don't agree with you on the other thing, but Elio is indeed shit.

>>149113984
>birchyfungroomer
yuck! stay away from doremi you sicko!

>>149114173
"Normie" is a redditnigger word. Only redditniggers like you use it, which is why you need to go back and stay there forever.

>>149114205
fucking nigger shit sorry meant to reply to
>>149114180

>>149114107
Really?

>>149114232
Yeah it looks like globohomo LA slop

>>149114217
Nah I'm not the one who's defending a shitty Disney film anon.
I will never watch this and you can't force me.

>>149114180
Doesn't count the 2024 re-releases, but with international numbers it might end lower then Soul and Luca overall
It's lower then Toy Story 1's raw numbers back in 1995, before inflation, when tickets were $3 and it played in half the theaters this is

post el monstruo

>>149113931 (OP)
I hope the pedophile who hasn't shut up about this movie for months kills himself.

>>149113987
>the protag looks like a lame autistic dweeb
Yup, and those guys don't sell anymore now that crybaby nerd protags are out of fashion.

>>149114308
>When you're the biggest bomb in Pixar history

>>149113931 (OP)
No one should be surprised. This movie is directed by two female leftist activists and a faggot: the two groups that are ruining Western entertainment.

>>149113931 (OP)
Meh, that is very fake seriously.

Elio is fucking winning! AMAZING!

having 0 advertising whatsoever doesn't help to sell an already mediocre movie

OH NO! A DISNEY COMPANY MOVIE FLOPPED AT THE BOX OFFICE! BOO HOO HOO, THAT'S SO SAD, IF ONLY THERE WAS SOME WAY THEY COULD RECOUP THEIR LOSSES IN 30 DAYS :(

>>149114403
Right on the money Anon.
You see most of these filmmakers are learning that without the DEI funding and mass ticket buying that their films can't stand up on their own to attract normies.

You see Normies are just now finally seeing that this degenerate garbage is bad and are now voting with their wallets, regular people got too tired of gay shit being pushed in their faces so much that anything that slightly looks gay they're skipping 100 percent.
They only have themselves to blame for the way people are now. Maybe getting people to lose their jobs for saying faggot and acting like a moralistic faggot probably wasn't the best idea for your movement, because now normies see being gay as a bad thing, these people set actual gays who just wanted to fit in back to the 1900s and all because they couldn't stop forcing down everyone's throats.

steven universe and its consequences

>>149114511
Hasn't Disney+ been losing subs like crazy?
Not really an own anon
>>149114528
You know for a retard you make some decent points

>>149114511
Streaming services aren't profitable, bro. They're all operating at a loss.

>>149114641
>You know for a retard you make some decent points
Well Anon it doesn't take an idiot to notice the writing on the wall.
I'm kinda surprised Disney didn't pay the usual shills to spam threads of this like they did Turning Red.

I'm just happy to see normies finally waking up and seeing woke shit as bad. All those years of being anti woke paid off well.

Can we maybe just go back to beautifully animated interpretations of classic public domain fairy tales and books?

>>149114694
Yes!
I want a Black Cauldron animated film that's actually faithful.

>>149114511
you don't really understand how those services works it seems.

40 MORE TOY STORY SEQUELS

>>149113931 (OP)
So what the fuck is this movie even about? An autistic one-eyed mexican kid making friends with an alien worm? Do they save the world or just do gay shit?

>>149114528
Wait, do you mean to tell me that the secular tree they planted full of transgenderism, polygamy, abortion, mental illness, and drug culture ended up producing a dead tree with rotten fruit?

What a concept!

>>149114729
QUICK LET'S RE-USE THE BUZZ RECALL PLOT THAT PIXAR THOUGHT WAS SO BAD THEY SCRAPPED IT THE FIRST TIME

>>149114692

Fuck the Oriolo family.

>>149114820
I mean his son still does cartooning somewhat.
He made Coconut Fred I think.

>>149113931 (OP)
The villains were "safe evil"

>>149113931 (OP)
Should have hired me to make them something fitting for a summer time block buster

>>149114851

Thats supposed to be a positive?!?!

>>149113931 (OP)
Good, enough with the gay shit

>>149114891
Nope, just thought I put it out there.
Just kinda a weird legacy his family has.

I'm not falling for it numberfags. Elio will do fine. It's the only animated movie for the rest of the summer, and audience reactions are glowing. As word spreads that there's no wokeshit and it's a charming family adventure, people will keep bringing their kids like Elemental.

And even if Elio went full Ruby Gillman, which it won't, it doesn't matter for Pixar. They've moved on from the movie years ago, barely talking about it at the big Disney expos since it's initial announcement. Everybody, except those pretending to be ignorant, is aware the movie was remade like three times and replaced its director. Pixar wrote it off a long time ago, and preemptively performed huge layoffs in summer 2024. The only mission for releasing Elio was for the new directors to shape it into any sort of salvageable thing that could be released. Given those terms, they exceeded expectations. Elio is a good movie. It's whimsical and funny with good message that give kids a sense of adventure and wonder in times of profound violence. It's not a masterpiece, but it's actually fucking good and something anybody would enjoy.

Most of you ITT haven't seen it, won't see it, and would never consider seeing it. I don't know precisely when it happened, but one by one you've all become addicted to drama and lashing out at meaningless bullshit instead of actually caring about animation. I have nothing in common with you losers. Numberposting is terminal autism and you should all kill yourselves or read a book, go to the gym, and gain self-respect. It's not too late.. It's an admittance of not being capable of individual thought. Fucking ruined media discussion on the internet.

Hello, I am apparently the only anon in this thread who has actually seen the movie. I can certify that:
>there's no gays or trannies
>there's no "abandon your family" messaging, the whole movie's point is "traditional family values are good"
>there's some beautiful visual design with shots right out of 2001
>there's good characters with good story arcs and acting
>there's a great villain who brings Imperium vibes to the Pixar lineup
>there's horror sequences, of all fuckin things
but do continue to rant and rave while continuing to wonder why we keep getting garbage like the Lilo & Stitch remake. have fun!

>>149114995
Anon if they didn't have the shitty artstyle that normies are tired of, I'm 100 percent sure they'd see it.

Just make the characters attractive

>>149114497
You don't throw good money after bad. A full ad campaign would add another $75million to the costs.

>>149113931 (OP)
maybe they should have made elio less fuckugly.

>>149115032
I can make your favorite movie look terrible with freeze-framing anon.

>>149114795
To quote Lasseter when that was originally announced as the plot of Toy Story 2

>"It's like you have these dear children and you have to give them up to be adopted by convicted child molesters."

>>149114694
Unfortunately the over extention of copyright fucked disney in the long run.
They already used the most famous ones.

Not watching

>>149114995
You're not the only one and holy fuck the clone melting scene was shockingly macabre, I was surprised. Anons ITT will whine about the art style being eyegore but the clone melt was freaky.

>>149115032
Oh Jesus

>>149114692
Disney seem to have given up on the social media factory and the Funko Pop critics. They're having flops even when a film gets universal praise from them.

The biggest fake account source is Amazon. Look at the threads for any series whilst new episodes are airing from them, the astroturfing is insane.

>>149114694
Lol nope sorry fag, this just means you're seeing Toy Story and Incredibles and Coco and other films you liked get sequels with this same type of writing and continue getting raped

>>149114926
>It's the only animated movie for the rest of the summer
But it's not the only family movie.

>>149114926
>It's the only animated movie for the rest of the summer
A CHALLENGER APPROACHES...

>>149115108
>All we have to look forward to from Pixar for the next six years is Toy Story 5, Incredibles 3, Coco 2, and fucking Hoppers
These are dark times, anon.

>>149115137
Can't wait to show my kid this and Plague Dogs on streaming, they look cute and funny : )

>>149114694
That was mainline Disney's thing, Pixar's thing was "The secret life of X?"

>>149115080
They could adapt books and pay for their licenses like Dreamworks, why don't they do that?

>>149114926
>>149115111
Yeah that's the real kicker, if I had to pay to see either of them a second time I would choose HTTYD remake over and over. Elio can't compete well enough.

>>149115111
And now that they've seen that, what are they going to watch next within the next two months? Remember that when Elemental came out, Across the Spider-Verse had premiered the same month.

>>149114926
How could you forget about RIHANNA THE MOVIE, Starring Rihanna as Rihanna, with Music from Rihanna!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s18jQqtGsMw

>>149115154
Catto is coming out and it's their only promising thing because they entirely ripped off Flow
https://gizmodo.com/pixar-is-channeling-the-kitty-hit-flow-for-its-2027-release-2000615596

>>149114148
>it's always extremely obvious when a tourist like you is desperately trying to fit in
Pot calling the kettle black

>>149115194
>And now that they've seen that, what are they going to watch next within the next two months?
Jurassic World. Superman. Fantastic Four. The Bad Guys 2. Maybe the fucking Smurfs, I dunno, but I'm saying there are many choices for movies to take your kid to this summer.

this has become a reoccurring theme.
>pixar releases new movie
>I hear about the movie for the very first time via some article with the headline Latest Pixar Movie is the worst performing pixar movie ever
>I look up the movie and it's clearly some movie pushing a current year agenda of inclusion.
>close the tab and never hear about the movie again

>>149115196
>video title just says "Smurfs Trailer - Rihanna"
kek

>>149114694
This was known to be in the works. An actual fairly tale and a romantic one at that. They did however say a month or so back that an unannounced project from Disney Animation had been cancelled so there's a chance it was this one. They'll probably show off their next film at D23 in a couple of months.

At least Skydance are making Gigantic.

>>149115196
This shit played before Phoenician Scheme and I almost left the theater out of second-hand embarrassment.

>>149115137
THIS + SETH ROGEN ANIMAL FARM

KINO SUMMER

>>149115255
>only confirmed details - it's a musical comedy
oh dear...

>>149115308
That's like almost every film Disney has ever made

If you want to force Disney to have a third renaissance, remember to support the low budget studios that are producing good stuff that keeps getting sent out to die on streaming. Locksmith deserve better, at least they're partnering with WB now so shouldn't get fucked over for cinema releases.

>>149115137
I'm not hopeful for this one too.
I don't like the idea of dogs balls being a focus point, even if the film is 2D.
Like you were given a chance to do a unique 2D animated film and this is what you came up with?
It's not even gonna be in theaters so who gives a shit at this point, I'm rather looking forward to his frog heist show though.

>>149115196

Shame, since Rihanna is hot as fuck.

>>149115345
Big Mouth is Netflix's most popular animated show. There's a market for raunchy adult animation, those people are just keeping their mouths shut.

>>149115232
These were the same conditions for Elemental. Families with small kids who are Disney-conditioned will always show up to "the new Disney movie". They were mind-broken by the woke era like Strange World and Lightyear. They feared Elemental for the same reasons, but eventually word spread that it wasn't one of those weird SoCal trauma stories and then they turned up. Same will happen with Elio.

And reason why I keep bringing up Elemental as the point of reference is because it's the Disney movie that had the shocking "flop opening weekend" that got everybody jumping to conclusions, only to just keep steady audiences for the rest of the summer. Pixar doesn't look at that being a bomb because instead of firing the director like Lightyear, they put him on Incredibles 3. Elio will also get an oscar nomination, like Elemental.

>Jurassic World
Unrelated note, but I went to an early screening for Rebirth, and holy shit what a stupid movie. Kind of stupid enough to be entertaining, but still.

>"Where are you from?"
>"Uhh- Earth?"
>"Geetings Elio from Uhh-Earth!"
Deserved to bomb from that hackneyed shit alone.

>>149115303
An adaptation that strips out all the criticism of communism and makes it purely anti-capitalist. It doesn't even have the famous last part of the book.

It's amusing seeing Reddit defend it; "George Orwell was a socialst, the book was always about criticising capitalism rather communism". Orwell may have been a socialist but he really fucking hated communism, to the extent he wrote a list of communist authors to get blacklisted. The number of people in the thread not knowing the difference between communism and socialism.

>>149115196
Who?
Also the way the models are rigged really makes them look like a Fortnite skin

>>149115425

>Rihanna
>who

Really?

>>149113931 (OP)
I just watched this, and I gotta say. It had the biggest asspull I have ever seen. The ham radio club coming in to all help Elio and his aunt with navigating the space debris, should have been impossible, mainly because Elio would have been trolled by truckers. Not random people all across the world pitching in to help.
>But anon it's work of fiction
Yes, but if you are going to blend in real world elements, understand that the ham radio should have failed completely.

>>149115390
Elio doesn't have the effect of people finding out that the trailers were misleading as fuck. Elemental got a second life when people found out it was a cute romance movie. Elio isn't going to get that long tail that let Elemental slowly get to break even point.

>>149115308
It's an adaptation of The Princess and the Pea anon.

It's a little bit crazy that everyone seems to be obsessed with box office numbers these days

>>149115434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg00YEETFzg
I thought she was the one that did "Single Ladies" but no. I remember this song vaguely as a kid

>>149115390
The romance in Elemental saved it and made it "unique" enough for audiences to check it out. For modern Disney at least, romances are rare. They killed Wish when they cut it out.

>>149115438
That moment felt like an anime, but like an older sci-fi one. I agree they didn't explain it, but you could easily come to a conclusion that makes sense. With how internet communities (like us) are, I could totally see autists paying attention to the space phenomena taking place where Elio lives and the more passionate ones coming together to help out with radio signals. In real life there would be trolling, but the story wants to fill you with hope. There are good people out there and movies can make them the heroes.

>Captcha: xHAMd

>>149115465
It's because it so heavily decides what movies get made now. There are no DVD sales to turn flops into profitable cult classics, the money from streaming is a tiny portion of what DVDs used to earn. A movie flops at the box office and you're not getting a sequel, a TV series or even movies which build on the elements that people liked in it.

Even Disney are changing course, they announced they're steering away from "personal" biographical films in favour of universal appeal ones.

>>149115465
it's easy to hide behind without getting attacked for opinions on a movie's quality, also a way to appear distant/superior to the movie

>>149115499

And she's hot as fuck.

Shame she had a kid.

>>149114511
Streaming killed DVD, and DVD in the 2000s could make any movie its money back.

>>149115565
One of the favourite moments in anime is like that; the Koi Koi scene in Summer Wars where a little kid donates his account then the whole world joins in and everyone donates theirs. The GMs even give her a Kimono that looks like her grandmothers in support.

>>149115444
Elemental also had Korean appeal, its the highest grossing Pixar movie in the region.

>>149113931 (OP)
who cares about Disney and Pixar, Dreamworks and Sony are way better, KPDH was fucking great

>>149114528
source for gif?

>>149114926
Eh, I haven't watched it and it's probably ok, I just really don't like the art style of vibe of the whole thing. I just feel like there's nothing there for me
>spoiler
true

>>149115465
It's the new cope. People who've realized they don't enjoy movies anymore, but aren't willing to let go yet and still want to appear superior when talking about them. It's not healthy, but if everybody's doing it...

>>149113931 (OP)
With this bombing and the Lilo remake's runaway success, the future for Disney is going to be creatively bleak.

>>149115748
It's amazing how stuff like this can just get dumped with zero fanfare or awareness. I need to remember to watch it.

>>149114625
It turns out kids don't actually like seeing a crying wimp as the main character. Remember, the lion's share of Steven Universe's popularity is from adults.

>>149114926
>Elio will do fine.
In order for Elio to actually make a profit, it'll need about $600,000,000 in the box office and I highly doubt it'll get a second wind like Elemental did.

>>149115902
It's amazing how I can write a post like that and you just respond with numbers. The point went over your head so much it's now a satellite.

>>149115892
>It turns out kids don't actually like seeing a crying wimp as the main character
My Hero Academia outsold the entire comic book industry

>>149114625
>>149115892
You might be saying it as a joke but I unironically agree.
Are current filmmakers so out of touch that they think kids are into crying protagonists and movies about "real feelings" and first-world Californian family problems?
Kids like cool characters. Kids like robots, they like heroes, characters will imaginative powers or worlds to explore. Kids like actual comedy and not #relatable mom humor. Kids like wacky funny animals and badass protagonists.

I don't know where the idea came along for everything to be about crying softboys BESIDES Steven Universe. It literally killed the industry.

>>149115212
On top of that we have some weird ass anime about housecats spawning out of nowhere and taking over the world, coming out sometime soon I think

>>149115958
Look, I'm glad you enjoyed the movie and I really would like for more original movies to succeed, but the fact is that financially, it will not do fine, which will really incentivize Disney shift focus away from movies like it.

>>149114861
So, just disgruntled and entitled, not "kill your parents, devour your sister, and fuck your dog" evil? I miss that brand of evil. Now everybody's just having a misunderstanding.

>>149113931 (OP)
Why do Eliofags WANT you to watch this trash heap just because it's original?

>>149115892
>>149115970
At least in Elio's case, he's not really a crying wimp Steven-type. Maybe he was in the original trailer from years ago. The movie starts with him recovering from dead parents, but the way he copes is to become obsessed with alien encounters, and that kind of makes him a fun protagonist once he has to play the role of a space hero. He's a young kid, but the movie's pretty free of Ghibli-esque crying with globs of tears and snot.

>>149114926
>It's the only animated movie for the rest of the summer
ENTER

>>149114926
All the art styles in these pixar movies look the same to me. I’m bored from the start. I can’t get past it.
I agree that all the numbers posting is lame.

What the fuck is this movie even about because just looking at the images I have no earthly guess.

>>149114674
And Disney keeps doing it...and not putting all their good shit on them, making the subscribers idiots for not just pirating the stuff from the 90's that they subscribed to the services to (hopefully) see.

>>149113931 (OP)
Who?

>>149116078
A lonely kid thinks he'd be happier with aliens.

>>149116020
My last post was a bit snarky, so I'm sorry for that, but my big issues are
1. Box office is the most impersonal, boring, insulting way to talk about any movie. It's a brain-washing effect to treat art as a commodity traded on the stock market instead of something with artistic merit. I'm well aware that's how everybody thinks nowadays, but it doesn't mean it's right. Yes, box office has a link to what projects can get greenlit and whatnot, but it's not like people talking about it are also willing to talk about a movie's story, characters, or themes. They aren't. It should have no place on a cartoon discussion forum.
2. I don't buy box office discussion even on its own terms because there's no such thing as a consensus, only the illusion of one. There's so much related to budget and streaming that never gets reported, and even when people have sources to back up their numbers, it's up to one's personal definition of "success". There are people that will tell you Avatar is a flop with a straight face.

>>149116058
I swear, these industry idiots think just because something is original, it's automatically good. If anything, this shows that Disney Pixar can't do shit that's original without it being trash. Maybe Zootopia was a fluke.

>>149114926
>don’t think, just consume product and get excited for the next product

>>149115968
Maybe Disney/Pixar need to follow what anime is doing and put more bloody violence and hot chicks with skimpy outfits in their movies

>>149116169
>Maybe Zootopia was a fluke.
Zootopia was trash too

>>149115968
Multiple manga have outsold the whole comic industry.

>>149116074
An overwhelmingly hetero Dreamworks movie comes out a couple weeks after Pixar's gay shit
Elio is completely fucked

>>149116267
No manga has ever outsold 2 years of Duck comics

>>149113931 (OP)
>It's Eliover
god the entire internet is just shitty zoomer buzzwords and phrases

>>149115465
>It's a bit crazy that everyone judges a film's financial success based on its financial success.

>>149116154
That's fair. Yeah a lot of people really do take numbers as the be all end all for movie discussions, especially nowadays. Hell I loved Better Man and that movie made $4 total. The only thing is that at the end of the day in Hollywood, numbers mean everything. Tons of people loved Transformers One, but because it was a bomb, we probably wont see another movie like it in the future. If anything else, Elio could become a cult classic down the road like Treasure Planet.

>>149116169
I absolutely agree. Most Disney originals end up feeling samey anyway, and aren't good. People who make "guilt" threads about supporting original or 2D slop in theaters are cancer.

Elio is pretty good though.

I would watch this shit, but aliens looks very boring and uninspired. Every single one. Just meh in general at best. Remember how different and fun was the monsters in Monsters inc, they can do exactly the same with an aliens

>>149115862
Every non-franchise animated film not made by Disney or Pixar will be instantly dumped on some dying streaming service to die in obscurity.

>>149116293
>Hell I loved Better Man
My nigga. That beautiful fever dream movie will live in my head for years to come. Any Monkey Robbie Williams believer is a friend of mine.

APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW

>>149116293
>>149116391

>>149116434
Pure monkino.

>>149115032
>>149114337
I tried to make Elio a little less, i dunno, retarded

>>149115765
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBZNlAa1UKF50de5W73AukeujWuQ4iAyl

>>149116478
sorry but unless you give him a nose job he looks like a monkey

>>149114337
>>149116478
I hate this dopey fucking haircut

>>149115343
Someone’s about to get bukkaked.

>>149114232
no

>>149115390
>Elio will also get an oscar nomination, like Elemental.
Only because of Pixar Privilege

>>149115111
The fundamental problem.
>hey, little boys and girls, do you want to see a movie about a lame beanmouth befriending slugs or a movie about a cool hot guy pretending to be a dork learning to be a cool hot guy who rides a dragon?

>>149116642
>Only because of Pixar Privilege
True, but what other animated movies have come out/are coming out this year that warrant an oscar nomination? Elio and Zootopia 2 will probably get nominated because Disney.

>>149113931 (OP)
There was no marketing for it whatsoever. I only found out it existed yesterday when the reviews about how disappointing it was started coming out.
>Never heard of it
into
>It sucks
Yeah, nobody is going to watch when the word of mouth is like that. A lot of people scoff at the massive marketing budget some of these productions have, but it is necessary to a degree unless you have such total confidence in the project that you think its own excellence will make it market itself.
Not the situation we have here.

>>149115390
>>149116642
I thought all you had to do to be nominated was you yourself/the studio that made it to send it in. At the very least that sounds like how it worked for nominating episodes of shows.

>>149116680
the animation oscar is a joke anyway, and just a containment category so cartoons can't intrude on the territory of "real movies".

>>149116684
>There was no marketing for it whatsoever.
It's clearly Treasure Planet 2.0 even though Elio is nowhere near Treasure Planet's level. It's still an original movie though so Disney/Pixar will use it as an excuse to keep shitting out remakes and put originals on the back burner.

>>149115390
Elemental was """""saved"""" (it broke even at best) because of one very specific international market that the director was trying to appeal to in the first place. These are not the same conditions as Elio-- in fact, the opposite. Elio struggled to find an identity, went through dev hell, and has three directors attached to it who were brought on during different periods of the movie to try and make it work.

>>149116684
>There was no marketing for it whatsoever.
I don't know, I've seen plenty of ads online and on tv for it. Plus there's plenty of movie theatre merch for it, though that's just par for the course I suppose.

>>149116748
>to try and make it work.
It's such a generic movie plot that it's insane to me that they struggled in development hell to the point of reworking the thing and costing like double the budget doing so. It's so fucking by the numbers regardless of version (him being scared of aliens or it being an obsession.) Like how could you possible have an entire movie crew and they're like "what the fuck are we doing? how can we crack this??" and it's this bare bones plot. Christ. Everyone in the industry is fucking braindead. It wasn't even a "what are we doing, this has no hook it's too generic" thing.

>>149116893
Possibly a scenario where they were too ambitious with an idea and had to make it cookie cutter just to make it work. There was a sequence shared in previous threads either from someone's reel or the art book that the clone had a much more significant role and possibly tried to take over Elio's life on Earth.

>>149114454
Only because the fans of this are idiots.

>>149116925
isn't that just the last starfighter but without consent
how hard could it be to do that plot in a simple way? just do basic gags where he's a little weirder to people than usual and then he comes around to elio taking his spot back because big heart

>>149116478
Tried something

>>149116990
Wouldn’t it be wild if the story went that the clone lived the kid’s life better than he did, and everybody preferred the clone, but the kid found acceptance with the aliens so he just stays with them.

>>149116925
>the clone had a much more significant role and possibly tried to take over Elio's life on Earth.

Ah I see the problem. That might have been an actual conflict. And we can't have that in a movie.

>>149116990
>how hard could it be to do that plot in a simple way
You underestimate Pixar's level of social engineering in their media. They made a program where every background character is analyzed to make sure it meets diversity requirements. I'm not surprised if this is also something they do with the writing team where they overanalyze the potential message they are giving audiences to avoid being scrutinized.

>>149116680
it's a good question, the mainstream options this year are bare bones
don't want to turn this thread in that direction, but just to say it once
Elio
Arco
Little Amelie
Zootopia 2?
The Bad Guys 2?

Even looking at the other indie stuff I have no idea.

>>149113931 (OP)
excellent! I wish Disney nothing but bankruptcy

>>149115970
Blame Jews.

Jews own every single big time entertainment studio including the studios of animation. So that's why you get all this shit you described. And this will never improve until Jews are KILLED.

>>149113931 (OP)
I said it before but the movie looks lame as fuck.
I want new shit but I also want COOL new shit.

The Wild Robot was new and that shit was GREAT.
This looks gay as hell and the lamest thing since that stupid ass dinosaur movie that looked just as soft and lame.

>>149116251
Then America's Single Mothers will not buy it because twats hate anything that's male oriented and they work extra hard to ruin it.

And now you understand why Disney refuses to fire that feminist bitch who killed Star Wars. Face it western entertainment is doomed.

>>149115568
Sadly this.

Especially the part about death of home physical media hurting movies and shows a lot.

>>149114454
it can be a good movie and also a bomb

>>149116266
>Zootopia was trash too

Thank you. Thought I was alone in hating that shitty movie. The story of Zootopia is preaching liberal trash. The only reason it was a novelty was because it was the first time CG did anthro animals.

But the characters are shit. The agenda is boring virtue signaling trash that I doubt would interest any youth watching it. This is why stuff like Sonic's movie is more beloved its about animal anthros but they go on fantastical adventures. Anyway hope Zootopia 2 is a failure.

>>149113931 (OP)
I'm loving all the manchildren on Twitter crying about full grown adults not coming out in droves to see this boring shit.

>>149116776
Just ignore him, marketing is a buzzword at this point. It's lost whatever meaning it once had.

>>149116074
>>149116271
Enter what? Shitty Feminist Bitch Mary Sue? Bad Guys is shit. Only beloved by shit for brain furries. Diane alone RUINS the story. All the men have to go prison except Diane the Mary Sue who is so smart she knows how to dodge prison. And she can beat up an army of cops without trying. Shit movie for idiots who I hope get destroyed by Feminism.

>>149117190
not on the internet

>>149115568
We know how well those corporate-mandated "appeal to no one by appealing to everyone" ventures go

>>149117242
you are mentally ill. get off the internet.

>>149117075
You didn’t have to whiten him.

>>149117200
You and the other guy ARE alone. I suspect you guys hate everything that doesn't have preteen girls in it to goon over.

>>149117270
And you are an indoctrinated sheep. You are a problem that must be killed out of society. You need to be forced into a slaughterhouse to be killed off.

>>149116493
Kinda says what they subconsciously think of non-whites...

>>149117426
Are you the schizo who says babylon all the time? What should we call you?

>>149113931 (OP)
>Hey guys!
>BROWN PERSON
>Coming to theaters hopefully never
Everyone involved in the creation of every single instance of this same exact unctuous piece of media like this needs to be shoved into a cattle car and shipped off to a nice cold little corner of southern Poland (Formerly Germany.)
>b-but it has aliens
No amount of fantastical coats of paint are going to make me want to watch your little brown retards, faggot.

The movie overall was good but I thought the ending was trash. He finally found people (aliens) that accept him and made a genuine friendship with the velvet worm child but then his aunt looks at him like :( and that makes him throw all his ambitions and his new friend away? We barely saw any of the aunt so I could t develop sympathy towards her, and the black kid was an asshole to Elio for letting his buddy beat the crap out of him. Also what would Elio do about all the kids that his clone befriended? What other shit did he rope Elio into before dying?
It really should've ended with the aunt letting him go because she knows he's found someplace where he feels he belongs and then him being able to keep in contact with her somehow. I know that's not realistic but fuck it it's a disney movie, none of their shit is super realistic.

Pfft, kpop demon hunters would've made more money if it actually had a proper theatrical run.

>>149117628
What's a retarded sperg actually going to do at the interplanetary United Nations?
>he made friends though!
So? Those friends have work to do. They're not going to babysit some jackass kid for the rest of his life.

when will Disney get bankrupt? I'm dreaming about this day. This soulless garbage of an enterprise totally deserves losing ALL of its money

>>149117665
>Those friends have work
Glordon didn't have work

>>149117689
Not in your lifetime

>>149117701
So he's going to live in the alien daycare for the rest of his life?

>>149117075
Cute. Would headpat.

>>149117702
whatever, manchild Disney addicted piece of shit

>>149117628
I appreciate you taking the time to write an effort post with your thoughts, so don’t take this the wrong way, but I disagree with everything you said. Your suggestions would make the movie more like the Lilo and Stitch remake everyone’s complaining about.

>>149117242
Cope seethe. The Chad Guys live rent free in your head

>>149113931 (OP)
It almost like people want traditional stories about White people engaging in heterosexual romance with black and white morality showing good triumphing over evil

Just watched Fun and Fancy Free an hour ago. Better than any movie released in the 21st century.

Is it just Pixar is using the shittest ideas ever?

>>149117628
>It really should've ended with the aunt letting him go
They couldn't let this happen because it would send a message about "abandoning" your responsibility to stay grounded in the real world which is a Big No No for kids.

>>149118336
Surely becoming an interstellar diplomat is taking on much greater responsibility than listening to your aunt.

>>149118033
From that angle maybe I would've been more ok with it if they kept her as his mom instead of his aunt

>>149118601
*Because now that I think about it shares common themes with Lilo and stitch, but that movie handled it better because they kept nani and lilo's familial struggles as a core part of the plot. The family rift in Elio was pretty much pushed into the corner once he got abducted

>>149114454
>Slashfilm

Those fuckers have been sucking Disney dick since The Last Jedi

>>149114674
Netflix is profitable.

>>149114926
That's a lot of work for a 2 dollar credit on your Disney+ account...

>>149113931 (OP)

>>149113966
Incompetent staffing from the bottom up.

>>149113931 (OP)
should had made him white

>>149117059
>>149116680
>what other animated movies have come out/are coming out this year that warrant an oscar nomination?
Maybe this one?

Kids want role models that make them go "He's just like me!" not "Holy crap, that's EXACTLY like me..."
They want Aladdin, the orphan shunned by society that's funny and has some cool skills that aren't appreciated, and who's good deep down even if he makes some mistakes.
They want Rapunzel, who is nervous, quirky, and awkward, trying to balance being a good daughter and finding her own way in life (which first off requires her figuring out what she wants to do and what's out there).
You can maybe put in a Lilo, a very modern very realistic Kid With Familiar Problems, but only if you pair her with something extraordinary, larger-than-life, and fun.
They don't want Elio, a 100% modern day kid who has depression and is hanging out with boring relatively-wholesome aliens.

>>149118874
>another hosoda waifu
doubt

>>149113931 (OP)
Is this movie in the Win or Lose universe?

>>149113931 (OP)
Original isn't the problem it's that it looked fucking awful & stupid as shit. Make an original movie that looks fucking cool & people will go see it

>>149115465
It's because it's a metric the studios can't control unlike the metrics streaming services use.

>>149114995
I heard the same from ClownfishTV. They said its good but I can't get past the grub hub art style.

>>149118874
is it good?

>>149119191
>not "Holy crap, that's EXACTLY like me..."
This. Modern older teens and adults are so obsessed with relatability and 'representation' that they can't properly enjoy media if the MC isn't a near carbon copy of them. Do I have to be a lion to like Simba now?

>>149119191
>Kids want role models that make them go "He's just like me!" not "Holy crap, that's EXACTLY like me..."
No, kids want to have fun, they don't care about the message.

>>149115560
This is why Zootopia 2 should have romance in it.

>>149116169
Zootopia has a built in fanbase before the movie even came out. Its really generic. They could've called it Furry the Movie.

>>149117200
this, zootopia fatigue seems to be quiet but very much there.

>>149118336
What if Ellio discovered he wasn't human?

>>149119363
Um. Yes. That's very much my point. Kids want to have fun. You can simultaneously have a fun movie AND a main character that the kid relates to and sees some of themselves in. That's part of the fun! The lonely kid that moves to a new town sees a little of themselves in Aladdin, the noble outsider. Trying to make it 1:1 representation for kids going through real serious shit is a fuckload less fun, and not what those kids want.

>>149119412
>It's really generic
It's really not, which is a big part of why it got greenlit. Part of the original Jack Savage pitch was "it's been way too long since Disney has done a proper animal movie like Robin Hood, we should do one of those again."

>>149116478
>>149116526
I like his hair, it's cute.

>>149117200

>>149119412
For something to be Furry The Movie you need to grab human characters who use a method to turn into animal anthros. That's the literal Furry The Movie.

Zootopia is...

Multiculturalism and Diversity is awesome please IGNORE all the obvious flaws because we HAVE to be diverse. Diversity is our greatest strength as dictated by your Jewish Masters!

Disgusting movie. To a lesser degree I hate Bad Guys as well, animal anthros are all career criminals harassing humans and humans have to tolerate them. Then you have other examples like the anime Brand New Animal which is animal anthros are wild savages who can wreck society by going on rampages and humans have to tolerate them.

Quite tired of this using Animal Anthros as stand ins for immigrants BULLSHIT! And Elemental is the same shit but miraculously not using animals the bigotry the destructive fire elements endured makes sense they can indeed BURN society to ashes for real. Hate this shitty agenda that suspiciously only happens in white countries. Kill the Jews.

>>149119555

>>149119357
Lots of teens and young adults these days enjoy anime despite not being 6' tall jacked japanese dudes with weird colored hair, a giant sword, and magic powers
Pretty sure most of the millions of little girls obsessed with Elsa look nothing like her either
There's a big disconnect between what the corporate suits think audiences want and what they actually like

Zootopia sucks because it makes no sense, it's filled with plot twists that come out of nowhere
And i'm not sure what the message of the film is, accept everyone?
In the end nothing really matters because all of the conflicts were the fault of a small group of people

>>149119287
>ClownfishTV
Anon, you can do better than ClickbaitTV.

>>149119605
>And i'm not sure what the message of the film is, accept everyone?

Going by Judy's final speech it is to work hard and keep society multicultural because you HAVE to. You have no choice and should not consider rejecting multicultural diversity agendas.

>>149119287
>ClownfishTV

Anyone else hate that fag and that cunt who fakes being into nerd hobbies? Hope they die hideous deaths.

>>149117200
>>149119555
>reddit spacing onions-right homo
>>149119532
>>149119572
>autistic fag who saves every reaction image with a full sentence for a filename

>>149119605
>all of the conflicts were the fault of a small group of people
Provided you're not trolling this is honestly kind of impressive.

>>149119605
>Zootopia sucks because it makes no sense
This happens with most stories that try to do the whole "discrimination is bad" moral/allegory without straight up using real life groups, it doesn't translate well into whatever they're using as a stand in for said groups, in zootopia's case predatory and prey animals .

>>149119691
>Filename criticism

>>149119715
After seeing reality the only thing Non Whites have done is justify racism against them. Blacks and Mexicans have really created a new wave of racists.

Sure is /pol/ in here all of a sudden.

>>149119727
buddy I have 4chanX. If I have to see all that shit all at once, I WILL consider it part of the post itself.

>>149119770
A good chunk of every board's user base is /pol/ adjacent

>be American
>fail at everything
I'm so glad you're all going to die fighting Iran soon

>>149113931 (OP)
Is that the gay fish movie? Didn't that come out years ago?

>>149119860
You're LatinX

>>149119828
>>149119770
You guys call everything /pol/.

>>149119860
>>149119883
No Latino is going to tell you that mediocre ass is good.

I got a vore scene as an ad for this movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18Bruh6-Etg

>>149113966
>300m
and they say 2d animation is expensive
turns out all that unreal engine, maya and chinese renderfarms actually cost a shit tone more than hiring some people who know how to draw

>>149116739
Beauty and the Beast got nominated for Best Picture and the other studios grumbled, but the next year when there was a RUMOR Chicken Run would be nominated they threw a tantrum requiring animation be stuffed into a containment category so they could never be humiliated like this again (even though BatB lost).

>>149119907
Latinos are the embodiment of not having standards and fucking anything that moves.

>>149116478
The main issue is that, in order to give Elio's profile a slightly more realistic appearance, you got overboard with pushing back his lower face without making sure that the general proportions followed more closely the rule of thirds. In other words, you removed a significant amount of facial volume, but didn't actually compensate for its absence.

See, although Elio's overly-round prognathism is definitely a stylistic choice, there's nonetheless a logical reason behind it: it's meant to provide enough room for his nasal dorsum, which, despite its shortness, all the same fulfills the purpose of adding a much-needed amount of distance between the lower eyelids and the borders of the nasal wings.

Plenty of non-Grubhub-style character designs from Disney films involve similar concessions regarding the anatomical accuracy of certain facial features. Frozen's female protags, for instance, both have an incongrous combination of medium-height nose bridges and low radixes, all for the sake of accommodating their anime-sized eyes so that they can look cute in frontal views.

Shortly put, in order to reduce Elio's prognathism without throwing off balance the rest of the design, you would need to tweak the overall proportions of the character's face, as shown in this anon's redraw >>149117075

>>149113931 (OP)
Maybe they should try making movies that don't look like the GrubHub commercial.

>>149120142
>Someone else is this autistic about physiognomy
Critique my OC, she has her own Stable Diffusion models so she's consistent. I wanted cute without supermodel or hideously uncanny. Not based off any known person, aiming for believable.
https://civitai.com/models/331335/gina

>>149113931 (OP)
>another sad brown kid film
>in a primarily white/asian market

you hit the saturation point, make something else.

>>149115390
I would normally call it an awfully shillish coincidence that you happened to see the movie you’re comparing unfavourably to the movie you’re defending the honor of, but anyone with a brain can tell Rebirth is going to be retarded. That IS why people are going to see it. Now they’ve given up on the pretence of dinosaurs people just want to see genetic abominations doing genetic abomination things.

>>149113966
money laundering

>>149118180
>>149116074
>>149116271
Can't believe im rooting for the furry movie, disney has fallen so low it's funny.

>>149117663
why does that look so much more appealing than elio, and why is this the first time im hearing about it?

>>149118180
Would be better without the added fart fetish bullshit, but, yeah.

>>149113931 (OP)
Hopefully this kills the 3d calarts style for good

>>149119715
I'm telling you, it's the EWES!! They're behind EVERYTHING!!! -Alex Bones

>>149119874
Same art style.

>>149120479
The Eweish diaspora has been a disaster for the animal kingdom

>>149120468
I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out that several movies in the last couple years were made with AI rendering and this is the most stable style to prevent errors like too many fingers or mouths clipping through faces.

>>149120514
They always seem to insinuate themselves into proximity to power, and no other animals notice.

>>149113987
People watched kpop Yaoi hunters on Netflix instead

>>149116478
My ancestor :)

>>149114337
>>149120142
>Human characters have bigger snouts than animals

>>149119340
No.
Full cgi anime

>>149120554
tell me more about these yaoi hunters

>>149113931 (OP)
Kinda a retarded take that screams anti-sequel bias. The solution to infinite sequel and franchise slop is to make good original movies. Seems like you're trying to shame people into supporting bad movies because the alternative is sequels. No they just need to make good new movies, which they are incapable of in recent years besides the moderate success of Encanto

>>149120142
I love Anna and Elsa but they do look weird as fuck in side profile shots

>>149113966
Major rewrites literally, Elio's mom became his aunt, Elio went from accidentally abducted to actively trying get abducted, and changing the antagonist, the plot with his clone, etc. It was supposed to come out last year, seems like they got a lot done in short amount of time. It's kind of impressive honestly.
>>149114059
For some reason, Pixar started doing more personal movies, typically about something in the directors life. You can see this trend starting with Luca and I guess arguably Inside Out did it first but every personal, down to earth, sol movie since Luca has followed a similar formula of having this soft and cutesy style. It has to be intentional, like studio mandated or something.
>>149116478
Reminds me of live action Stitch having his face squashed in.

>>149116526

Except Ponyo is actually a good movie. Pixar has been producing nothing but dogshit since The Incredibles, Cars 1 if we're being generous.

Pixar should make a movie about the pied piper

>>149120738
Fucking self-inserts of female directors.

Pixar is not going to stop making originals. They only have so many franchises to make sequels out of, and sooner or later, they'll want some new ones to add to the pile.

>>149115182
>pay for their licenses like Dreamworks
>pay
Anon, this is Disney we're talking about here

>>149120756
>simian head shape vs anglo-teutonic head shape
accidental propaganda

>>149120820
Yeah probably, I thought it was particularly annoying with Domee Shi's Bao in 2018, what a shit short. Yeah I get that the mother is over bearing but it was shit and not clearly as clever/deep as some people like to pretend it is. I was more annoyed that she went on to expand the same idea further with Turning Red.

>>149113931 (OP)
Well it's not a fucking remake or sequel so obviously it had to fail. You retards deserve this.

>>149120738
LOL I glanced at that first sentence and it looked like

"Elio went from being accidentally aborted to actively trying to get adopted"

>>149113966
Studios having little confidence in the movie, constantly going back and redoing scenes until they throw everything out and start from scratch. Delays also increase these tendencies until it literally becomes to expensive to touch it up anymore.
My own feelings on it is that studios have too much raw data on what will supposedly make for a successful film that they just play it too safe and change their minds at every test screening and think they can just fix it. No commitment

>>149120922
>"Elio went from being accidentally aborted to actively trying to get adopted"
my sides

>>149118745
LOL no it isn't. It's the poster child of burning money. They shoveled billions of dollars into a pit trying to generate original content and then still had to cancel tons of projects and lay off a bunch of people to prevent themselves from going deep into the red.

>>149116526
it's okay when miya-san does it

>>149113931 (OP)
Just got out of a showing. Not very high-stakes, but they managed to put together a solid emotional story out of it all. Elio's a great protagonist and I can see why they changed Olga to be his aunt. Does make me wonder what the scrapped version would've been like, though...

>>149114403
Hold up, what's the track record of those three.

>>149113931 (OP)
Is Clod in the movie? I only see movies that feature Clod.

>>149113966
IF I was given 300M to make a movie I would make one in budget and would easily break even.

>>149114995
You might be right, but my hype level is so negative, I don't think I'm even going to pirate it.

>>149115390
Q: Why did the good dinosaur fail so hard?

>>149121406
>emotional story
Red flag.

When was the last serious attempt at a 2D animated movie in the West? I'm definitely not saying kids would rush to it, but I have to suspect that a 2D animated movie would at least offer a novelty value for kids these days.

>>149113931 (OP)
I wanna fuck ambassador Mira.

>>149113984

>>149120142
Agree with everything. Anna and Elsa do indeed look weird as hell in profile. I wonder if having a unique model just for profile shots could have worked out.

>>149120643
I think the Pixar brand is too tarnished right now. They need to make really good sequels to build up brand confidence again. Maybe they could make little shorts to play before the sequel films that tie into their original films.

>>149121747
>tarnished
Their last movie made $1.7 billion. Audiences obviously do not give a shit about the studio's "reputation", only whether a movie looks fun/interesting. Elio might be either of those things but doesn't look it. It's been clear for ages that this was a bad idea for a movie, at least as they were presenting it.

>9.5 million views
>only 57k likes
no one likes browns in their cartoons, not even actual browns. all the popular latino actors are white looking

>>149120582
You should see some anime shows like Detective Conan.

>>149120738
The film also changed him going from Summer camp to going to military school... and it still has scenes at the camp.

>>149120142
I wish they hadn't downgraded Elsa to bee stings in the sequel.

i'm sure the fact this movie flopping while it was marketed as the first disney movie with an openly lgbt character is just a coincidence

>>149113931 (OP)
He should strip naked as a humiliation ritual.

>>149117260
Over the past few years we've seen some colossal flops that happened to otherwise good movies because they had no defined audience. Furiosa being one of them, nobody cared about the character, especially not when being played by a different character and it flopped big time, despite glowing reviews.

A $200m+ movie needs too appeal to someone. Lightyear... the crossover of people who liked Toy story (and Buzz's character especially) and who wanted a brown looking downbeat scifi story about time dilation, loneliness and guilt was tiny. Likewise Elio was another scifi story that didn't look particularly original, didn't look especially funny and had an art style that just looks bland, the only thing to get excited about is the studio making it and that prestige is fading fast.

Elemental has been brought up a lot in this thread but a good romance story has far wider appeal than one about the struggles being a later immigrant community in a city of immigrants.

>>149122254
>i'm sure a thing that i imagined is the reason for something
uh huh

>>149113931 (OP)

They could have had a successful movie if this little shota was gay. But no, gotta appeal to the fascists who won't watch it

>>149113931 (OP)
The vore scene that was in the trailer was obviously the writers fetish

>>149113931 (OP)
The bigger problem Disney makes bank off of mothers buying their kids toys and stuffed animals and there's nothing in this movie cute enough to be made into one.

>>149121768
>Audiences obviously do not give a shit about the studio's "reputation", only whether a movie *is a sequel to a IP you know
Fixed, Pixar the name doesn't sell anymore, the brand of the IP does
That's why Disney/Pixar's last hit that wasn't a sequel was Coco in 2017

>>149118745
Not, netflix WAS profitable when it was one of the only 2 games in town that weren't purely for anime and didn't have to spend millions to get the rights to even the most podunk series and could have a reliably large library that received regular updates via feeding off network television and major films.

The moment every faggot wanted to have their own streaming service and started fighting desperately for content, only sharing with rivals if either already stuck in a contract, desperate, or to the tune of millions if not billions, resulting in 4872672 services who all only have like 2 shows worth watching, however, the profitability fucking evaporated as the available money declined even as it was cut into tiny portions and costs ballooned, especially as network and cable stopped producing as many shows, and the industry for television and film started contracting hard as a decade+ of rot took their toll on top of that.

>>149115968
Credit due, Green Naruto still actually punches motherfuckers and understands the importance of violence and having balls when needed, mostly.

>>149122654
valid
people always go on about studios not trying new things, but they don't try new things because new things often fail.

Disney and Pixar need to hire people who realize that everyone, be they children, their parents, or degenerates, wants to see beautiful children like Mowgli and Christopher Robin and not ugly gremlins like Elio.

>>149114692
Disney's been bleeding money badly enough that the war chest has finally gotten tight. It's been a decade of them being fucking brutalized on basically every front financially, and a lot of the usual sources of extra grift money have had their plugs pulled or pulled back with burnt fingers since 2016 or so.

They've finally started reaching a point where they just can't afford to blow millions to billions on astroturfing to front to their bosses or try and trick people into letting them break even anymore particularly since it's increasingly just not fucking working.

>>149120019
2D animation is expensive. Its not the 3D programs that caused the budget to bloat, it was constant delays. Time is expensive when you have a legion of animators in your payroll. Lot of them in California, one of the most expensive places to live in the planet.

>>149122689
>Disney's been bleeding money
Stopped reading
The parks make them tens of billions in profit each year, even Stitch merch made them 2.5 billion so far this year, every film they can ever make can bomb now and they'd be fine regardless what your doompost youtuber says

>>149122689
i'm pretty sure they increased their profit projections.

>>149113931 (OP)
boys wanna slay dragons.
disney doesn't make movies for boys.
what have they made for boys? A Goofy Movie?

>>149122669
Go do your homework and see their Q1 2025 report, Netlix is profitable

>>149114694
Fairy tale machine broke

>>149115968
He's 50% a crying wimp and the other half a madman. Plus, he's fit.

>>149120738
>Pixar started doing more personal movies
I mean everyone kinda got in on that in the last decade. It's not about making movies entertaining for others, it's about making a movie about the director or one of the writers instead (and hoping it sells well.)
Encanto, Coco, Elemental, Turning Red, Luca, maybe that Ruby Gillman movie, IDFK. Elemental in particular stands out because the entire movie was literally just some Korean woman pissed at her grandma to the point of strawmanning her grandma into the movie just to make fun of her death as her final words are "racist" and instantly disproven by the rest of the movie.
I'm sure I'm missing a bunch of these "literally just some writer's childhood but with a sprinkle of magic on top" movies.
At least before you'd get a solid movie with some personal sprinkles on top so the writer can later explain that the MC's house is purple because their aunt had a purple house; nowadays, you have the main character looking just like the writer as a kid and having all the same struggles the writer had but now their sexist uncle is a demon that gets his head cut off by a spunky purple-haired girl with a pride flag pin and the movie's US president looks a lot like Kamala Harris.

>>149122796
also 75% of mha sales are people thirsting for bakugo

>>149121919
It's a completely different style to Elio, you're blind if you think they look alike.

>>149115968
>crying wimp
Nigga, the guy becomes hilariously overpowered not even 5% of the way into the show/manga and his go-to after that is hitting so hard he breaks his own limbs on purpose, with minimal crying.
Also I dunno if MHA is that big with actual children, feels like more of a teen/adult thing.

Also yes I'm still mad he becomes a generic shonen hero instead of becoming Anime Batman. I heard that was even the original plan too, but some manga company was like "nah, shonen shit is popular, make him OP and give him superpowers lol", which obviously worked but I'm still mad.

>>149122704
Parks and movies haven't made them good profit in years. Disney these days isn't as much of an entertainment company as it is an IP holding company. Majority of Disney's budgets goes to its lobbyists and lawyers.

>>149122805
Nah, it's Todoroki

>>149122846
that's probably a factor too, though bakugo has traditionally been the most popular character by some distance. i sometimes wondered if horikoshi ever got annoyed that his protagonist was such an also-ran even with all the favoritism he got.

>>149122803
>Elemental in particular stands out because the entire movie was literally just some Korean woman pissed at her grandma to the point of strawmanning her grandma into the movie
>some Korean woman
What if I told you it wasn't just some Korean woman at all but Peter Sohn who's worked at Pixar since the 2000s, he's also done VA work for minor Pixar characters too and even had his likeness inspire the look of some characters like Russel from Up. My point was that Pixar specifically, even with people like Pete Doctor around for some reason decided that personal films were a good idea and not just writers/directors sneaking in their trauma dumping and inserting themselves too hard despite this being the trend in other media.
As for some of the movies you listed, in I don't believe CoCo itself was based on the director or writer's life specifically(Lee Unkrich/co-Director Adrian Molina). If i remember right the likeness of the grandmother was based on an actual elderly Mexican woman while they were in Mexico taking references for the movie, its really not any personal movie like some of these more recent entries.
>>149122234
I thought it was always military school. An anon leaked the artbook pdf meant for for the 2024 release of the movie and the military school had some concept art.

>>149121569
Europe still does them from time to time.

>>149122840
Disney’s 2 USA parks make them at least 8 billion in solely profit each year and that’s after paying everyone including themselves

>>149121569
Does that recent Looney Tunes movie count as a "serious attempt"?

>>149123078
You see a shot of him supposedly at military school but clearly at a scout camp wearing merit badges. Also the bully just disappears from the film.

>>149123203
NTA but he probably won’t mean that since it was meant as a direct to streaming film, he means major theatrical film

>>149123204
It's some kind of camp/school, not really sure what was up with the badges though

>>149123225
Is there really that big of a difference anymore?

>>149113931 (OP)
If all of their "original non-sequel" films are going to be about ugly Cartoon Network beanmouth children, then it's for the best.

>>149123293
Yes, they are not only far more marketed and made into events but they have 10-15x the budget of films like DTEBU, so they would have far more detailed animation. Elio cost 10x what DTEBU did and had millions put into marketing too
That costing a brief 15 million and making it back with no advertising shows Disney can return to 2d within their budget if they cared to and cared to let go of the corporate control they have like how they remade Elio entirely in one year because they didn’t like it

>>149115044
This isn't freeze framing. It's the character's fucking profile appearance.

>>149123239
Last minute change from a summer camp to a military school, minimising the assets they need to change. I believe you even see them in tents and that sign is more what you'd see at a camp than at an academy.

Possibly it was an attempt to remove traces of the rumoured "Elio is autistic" elements. Being so against a military school is more universal than being so against a few weeks at a camp.

>>149123318
It's mostly their lower stakes, slice of life movies. I don't get why all of them recently look that though, they made Inside out before and Soul managed to at least look different. Different directors, different mix of artists and yet they all come out having the beanmouth inspired by ghibli/anime look. Luca was outright inspired by it, a ghibli style mockup concept piece even made it into the artbook, and the the name of town Porto Ross was a reference to Porco Rosso. Luca also took inspiration from Aardman for the look of the movie as well, so that explains the look but why do all these other movies kinda look the same?

>>149122704
and they still have Zootopia 2 and Avatar 3 coming out this year

>>149115044
Do it with Spiderverse.

>>149122704
The parks operate on tiny tiny margins that rely on them being packed year around. Epic Universe is going to hurt them this year.

>>149123390
>Last minute change from a summer camp to a military school, minimising the assets they need to change
Hmm. Perhaps.
>"Elio is autistic"
I thought it was "Elio is gay"

>>149113966
they rewrote it like 3 times. Also Pixar doesn’t outsource their animation to chinks or jeets (so they claim)

>>149123523
Two times is more likely, Molina was still director before he stepped down last year. Domi shi and that other lady who's name I can't remember were quite literally brought in last minute. Reminder; this was supposed to come March 2024.

>>149114733
nobody knows because Disney refused to market the thing

>>149123523
>doesn’t outsource their animation to chinks or jeets
Well that's nice at least that they don't use asian wage slaves, considering film is basically the only job available for US animators

>>149123593
I feel like I'm being gaslit when people say there's no marketing for this movie, I've been seeing ads for it since like last month. People also said they ramped up marketing... which is it. The worst thing Disney did though was put it out around the same time the Lilo & Stitch remake came out.

>>149117075
cute!
>>149120142
appreciate the breakdown

>>149123658
>Since like last month
And that's pretty late to start advertising it, the Lilo and stitch remake started getting teased/advertised at least a couple months in advance. The problem with Elio is that they released the teaser trailer almost 2 years ago and then went completely silent on it until it was very close to its release date. It feels like the rush of advertising is damage control for not promoting it enough so therefore no one knew it existed

>>149123750
>that's pretty late
True. The teaser also teased an earlier release date so I guess that didn't help but I still can't believe they put it up against one of their own movies and one of their more popular IPs.
>feels like the rush of advertising is damage control for not promoting it enough so therefore no one knew it existed
I can see that. Saw advertising for it on a category on tubi even.

its a stupid art style.

>>149116058
>original
it may be a new IP but there is nothing original about this story

>you HAVE to watch and like this because it’s not a sequel or a remake!
just because it’s a new IP that doesn’t automatically make it good

>>149113931 (OP)
Hopes: This will teach Pixar that this sort of "uwu crybaby brown boy" shit isn't profitable
Expectations: Let's see Cars 7 and Toy Story 59, we don't care if Tom Hanks is dying

>>149117017
Like the anti it’s a wonderful life. Everybody is better off without the kid lol. Although fairly odd parents did it over 20 years ago

>>149113931 (OP)
Is it because it was an original non-sequel film, or is it because it was shit?

>>149122254
At this point Disney has to be running out of “firsts”
>the first openly gay character on a Tuesday while wearing an eyepatch!
How many “first” openly gay characters have we had in the last decade?

>>149121474
i think it's worth you watching this. rarely will a film be made under ideal conditions or without interference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2nXw7QJ-0M

>>149121569
Allegedly and I need to stress that ALLEGEDLY, Disney is doing SOMETHING with 2D that might be theatrical. They got Ron Clements to come out of retirement to “mentor young animators” and he was mostly a 2D guy. There was also an interview that Walt Disney Animation head Jared Bush did with The Wrap where he said this
>“I love 2D,” Bush said. “Right now we have 2D artists who are doing some bonkers amazing things. I’ll leave it at that,” Bush said with a wink when we asked about the format returning to the studio.
Personally, I’m hopeful, but I’m also totally prepared for it to be fucking nothing (or for it to be something but also be total garbage)

>>149122724
I think the last Disney movie they made for the boys was big hero 6? And that was over a decade ago. The days of lion king, Aladdin, and Hercules are over. Only fags and little girls

>>149113931 (OP)
I'm honestly a bit sad THIS film is doing so poorly and not something thats obviously left-leaning like the marvels. Yeah its mid and disney losing money is always good but i'd have preferred for the film to be touted as the big comeback against trumps fascist america and have made these numbers.

>>149123390
there's no reason to censor autism anon, many conservatives have autistic kids. i know gays like to self diagnose as having 'the spicy tism', but that doesn't have any relation in the real world

So are they finished with that art style yet?? It’s been what, 3 films and the Disney plus show? It’s awful. Just stop. nobody likes it

>>149115892
Completely accurate. Years ago at SUs peak my 9 and 7 year old nephews would always ask to change the show when SU came on calling it the “annoying boring show”

>>149121919
modern conan art style sucks though.

>>149120629
>>149110202

>>149124418
Other women are responsible for that so I dunno what she's crying about

>>149124436
'stop liking what i don't like' has a million faces

>>149122704
The parks haven't been profitable since pre-Covid and they were already looking at several billion dollar costs they were trying to make up for back then thanks to how fucking long it took them to break even from buying Star Wars and the cost of new projects, among other things.

>>149113931 (OP)
Make Pixar movies white again

>>149116925
That would have been actually interesting though. Hell, you could build an entire movie around that idea, a sort of sci-fi "Prince and the Pauper" scenario. The movie could've done so many interesting things... but it didn't!

>>149116925
>too ambitious
Other than the "please abduct me" shit, there's a lot of ideas in the movie that are stolen from The Last Starfighter, including the clone on Earth who covers for the protag at first, but soon gets discovered and then sacrificing himself.

I never got the point of changing the name of your social media account solely to yell at people to watch the slop of the month in the vain hope that it’ll change anything.
>Just give it a chance <3
This isn't Green Eggs and Ham, turbofaggot.

>>149124631
>Hell, you could build an entire movie around that idea, a sort of sci-fi "Prince and the Pauper" scenario.
That's a retarded idea and you people are just looking for any excuse to bitch and nitpick Elio. I challenge anyone in this thread to pitch a story like this that isn't a heaping pile of shit.

>>149124574
Well it would certainly help if it wasn't so expensive to have a vacation there now, effectively barring lower and middle class families from taking multiple trips there

>>149121569

>>149124914
That's... that's just sad

>>149113931 (OP)
It'll hold as well Elemental and you fucks will go back to crying like literal retards again

>>149120427
Its plopped to netflix.

Kpdh got done dirty

>>149124954
>Elemental

>>149121569
Klaus in 2019
Wolfwalkers in 2020
The Day the Earth Blew Up in 2024

Boring and cliched movie. No final boss confrontation, just Elio, Aunt and larva escapes from space rubbish to reunite with larva´s father

>>149124954
>It'll hold as well Elemental

>>149114528
The problem is that the writers for this stuff don't get fired. They just go on to another movie and ruin that one too

>>149124649
But movies are never that straight forward in development. It might've started out as a shy kid who gets abducted as Earth's ambassador. Then it turned into him being a negotiator. Then you have Glordon being added to make sense of the negotiation plot. Then it plopped on this whole clone sub-plot. Then you have all these gears and half of them don't fit and you're already 1+ year into the story with animatics and concept art. So now you have to cut a bunch of the clone plot which was eating up time in the ambassador plot and try to get as much Glordon in there as you can so you can have the emotional pay-off.

While animated movies have often worked this way and managed to produce good results, it's such a fucking gamble compared to the traditional, "Write a screenplay, sell it, make a bunch of revisions" method. It was exceedingly rare for a script to NOT be done in time for a live-action movie's shooting schedule and it's why something like Charlie & the Chocolate Factory was so notable at the time. Animation always worked this way, and now that we've gotten VFX heavy, live-action movies are working this way, too. And since 3D assets are so much easier to swap in and out compared to 2D, these last-minute changes have now been ramped up to ridiculous dev hell proportions.

>>149113966
remember when they stopped making 2D because it was too expensive compared to 3D

>>149119715
Zootopia suck because is another furry society where they build zones for specific animals, cool worldbuilding but ignored in the plot

>>149114337
>my_ancestors.jpg

>>149119715
Its hard to make a discrimination bad allegory because discrimination is good.

>>149114736
So what do you propose we do now? RETVRN to TRADITION?

>>149126172
Have we reached the stage of Weimar where we start burning DEI literature?

>>149122691
>2D animation is expensive
Not really

>>149125717
>the traditional, "Write a screenplay, sell it, make a bunch of revisions" method.
that way is also getting fucked, live action screemwriters have complained about half-finished screenplays entering shooting for a while now.

>>149126001
>another furry society where they build zones for specific animals
How many of these do you think there are?

>>149126331
probably 5-8 if we're going by biomes

>>149119691
Jesus anon...

>>149124764
Yes this person will surely change my mind

>>149124764
"Give it a chance?" Bitch, it costs like 200 fucking dollars to take my kids to a motherfucking movie theater. That's too much money to gamble on 90 minutes of slop.

>>149125883
>because it was too expensive compared to 3D
The issue wasn't 3D being really cheaper, but rather 3D have no unions as opposed to 2D.
Easier to exploit those employees

>>149115968
My Hero Academia has a great artstyle full of hot girls and other characters that people cared about besides Decuck. The manga pretty much was carried by all other characters.

>>149124574
>The parks haven't been profitable since pre-Covid
Last year they made record profit
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/15/disney-parks-profit-expansions.html

>>149125883
No? That never happened, CgI has always been more expensive than 2D and in fact heavily incorporating CGI into 2D stuff like Atlantis, Tarzan and Treasure planet caused their budgets to explode, yet still pale in comparison to any “normal” range CGI movie. Bolt was hardly pushing any boundaries and it cost more than the most expensive 2D film of all time, adjusted for inflation even. And even that is tiny compared to the mid-2000 onwards Pixar that always seemed to cost 200 million. Fun fact I like to draw back on, The Lion King, adjusted for inflation, cost less to make then Despicable Me 2, which was brought in under budget by heavily reusing assets. A technical marvel of 2D doesn’t cost as much as mass produced, meant to be cheap and visually unimpressive slop from a cheap studio.

2D was always hella cheap, comparatively. What changed the game was Shrek 2 and Finding Nemo doing better than any 2D film since Lion King and the success after success of even crappy CGI like Shark Tale while Disney films were flopping left and right. No Dreamworks or Disney 2D animated movie made 300 million worldwide since the turn of 2000, CGI made that with forgettable garbage like Rio.

>>149127976
My favorite is that you could make a trilogy of 2 hour movies at the animation level of Green Eggs and ham for the cost of one Abominable.

Do you remember Abominable? No, you don’t, but it cost as much as 6 hours of high quality 2D that was touted as being expensive for 2D. For the cost of one, ONE SINGLE Frozen movie you can make 10, I repeat TEN 2D movies on the level of The Day The Earth Blew Up. Frozen just makes more than 10x is all

>>149124262
>trumps fascist america
holy brainrot batman

>>149116478
now he looks south east asian

>>149113931 (OP)
Bean mouth delenda eat

>>149129000
So why did Pixar decide to use the beam mouth style in all their movies

>>149113931 (OP)
Will they finally stop with these shitty human designs?

>>149129090
Maybe. They canned another movie in this style in last year's leaks if I remember right.

>>149124385
They made his chin pointy.

>>149129028
It's easier to draw but they failed to realise their sketch book little doodles were going to be made into 3d which doesn't look as good.

>>149124939
It was pretty based and funny tho

>>149129028
NTA but I'd like to know that too. They told us the animation industry did it to cut costs. But the CG industry? Where any style costs about the same? There is no good reason for it.
I've always thought a small group of vain people forced the calarts style to leave a mark on art.

>>149113931 (OP)
Yeah. Maybe it will improve with word of mouth, but the trailers, clips, and other assorted marketing material didn't draw me in. The art style doesn't really interest me and it doesn't sound like the premise is super unique.

>>149123658
Seriously. ESPN is always on at my job, yet I've come across Elio TV spots many times in the past month.

The problem isn't the lack of marketing. It's that most people just aren't interested in a child protagonist; it makes Elio look like a movie that skews especially young. Pixar always benefited from the "what if [blank] had feelings" template because it allowed for adult protagonists due to their being non-human. Luca is the only other Pixar film that comes to mind with its main duo/trio all being underage, and we didn't get the chance to see how that would've done with a theatrical debut.

>>149113931 (OP)
Elio didn't release alongside the finale of an adaptation of one of the biggest franchises ever, so I don't think this was deliberate sabotage. Just apathetic marketing.

>>149113931 (OP)
Most people don't even know this movie exists.

>>149130459
I wouldn't even say that, it has the Strange World problem in that I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS IS ACTUALLY ABOUT! There's no interesting hook in anything I've seen of this, I don't know what they'd be doing in this movie, what the tone is, what the aliens are about, then all the designs look so fucking bland. It's exactly like that, but that's how I've felt about every Disney/Pixar movie of the last near decade.

>>149130617
Really, it's a film about family.

>>149113966
Catering, the animators have exclusively egg-based diets

How did KPop Demon Hunters got popular but this flopped?

>>149113931 (OP)

>>149125883
You believed that bullshit? no, it was because moviegoers were more impressed with 3D animated films and they made way more money in the box office compared to 2D ones. Compare Disney's last few 2D animated movies to Pixar's first few 3D animated movies and it's obvious why the shift happened.

You could easily make a fully 2D animated movie today on a cheaper budget than Elio, but who the fuck would watch it? that's the problem.

>>149130617
Elio looks like what you'd get if you asked chatgpt to pitch a pixar movie.

>>149127764
UNDERAGE girls, you degenerate.

Hey, does that CGI Kpop show have martial arts fight scenes? If so, I'm in.

>>149130459
Sincerly what happened to the adult protagonists the last 10-15 years
Literally EVERY mega-popular cartoon icon is an adult. Most over the years are, Disney had some teen princesses but ones that could be adults and alongside all the other characters.
Now execs think kids can only relate with kid characters even if 100 years of animation proved otherwise and every single show/film/etc features kid characters now and the only people interested are the pedos of /co/

>>149129339
The "calarts" style mouth has been around for like 40 years, it isn't a new thing or unique to a small group of people within the industry

>>149131390
Yeah we've had the whole beanmouth is inspired by anime/ghibli conversation before idk why people still don't get it.

>>149123415
The left-most character is too freakish. Not a fan.

>>149120302
Maybe its just me but the main reason I don't like Disney or western animated movies much is because they don't do Straight White Male protagonists anymore. And if they happen to make one its always with a crippling flaw of some type.

Look at Gru from the Despicable Me movies as the title indicates he's a despicable criminal bastard. The latest movie tried to pretend that Gru is a super hero but no, I don't believe that after so many movies with him being proud of being a criminal villain.

And besides Gru I can't think of other straight white male protagonists. North America seems to hate making straight white males. And that's the reason I avoid a lot of movies. And I hate when the male character is a bumbling screw up sidekick to a shitty snowflake Mary Sue like Eugene from the Disney movie Tangled. That movie should not be called Tangled it should be titled Everything Bad MUST Happen To Eugene.

Until studios start making straight white males worth a damn I'm not watching any of their trash.

>>149120468
Even if it kills Calarts it won't kill the covert Leftist agendas these bastards keep injecting in all their movies. All the Feminism, all the secret ambiguous gay characters who are implied to be gay like Gobber in How To Train Your Dragon, all the diversity and hell race swaps too.

You are not stopping the Garbage Jewish Factory. Not even close.

>>149114795
>>149115058
..............what?

>>149122654
>Coco

God that movie was hideously bad. Hey everybody its okay for your Great Grandmother to curse your family from beyond the grave strictly because she doesn't like music. And when she finds out her musician husband is innocent she does NOT apologize for oppressing her family long after she died.

Horrible horrible horrible film. And I curse the retards who like it. Getting real tired of the moral of You Must Forgive Awful People. This is what happened in Encanto and Raya and the Last Dragon. And hell other media also has this moral like Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel which is entirely about forgiving awful individuals. And do I need to mention Bojack Horseman? The whole show is Be Awful And Be Excused.

What the FUCK is wrong with these bastard cunt writers making this shit? You cross me in real life and I will torture you to death. Most of humanity is not forgiving when you do harm to them.

>>149122630
Disney makes more money from their theme park and despite the bad economy Disney's theme park too mostly a major hit from Universal's new theme park Epic Universe which has Nintendo rides. This is truly hurting Disney.

And I say GOOD!

>>149113931 (OP)
Korea will save

>>149122689
No they have not. Hate them or like them the Disney Live Action Remakes have MOSTLY been successful and profitable. So much so that Dreamworks is copying Disney's Live Action Remake formula. And if your rivals are outright copying you you MUST be doing something right.

Disney is not in trouble money wise what they are though is running out of famous movies to remake and then they still have a few they could remake like Toy Story and The Incredibles. The point is Disney is not quite out of fuel for their live action remakes. And we know for a fact their sequel fests also make money.

So when you say Disney is bleeding money I laugh. I'll believe Disney is finally enduring harsh times when their live action remakes and sequels start failing. And even if they fail that's not enough to kill a corporation like Disney.

>>149113987
Most of the alien designs are just actual sea creatures with cute colors. There's a nudibranch, a taridgrade, just a fucking slime with eyeballs. Very low effort even for modern pixar.

>>149132325
Kora only liked that shitty movie because it starred Shitt Koreans Like Themselves. After all the Korean director said as much and if the word comes from a Shitty Koran the OTHER Shitty Koreans from abroad will buy into it.

Elemental appealed to Shitty Koreans because they saw it as a fantastical take on a Shitty Korean Tale. And yes Koreans are shitty. I'm so happy South Korean birthrates are awful hope that North Korea kills them an conquers their land.

>>149113931 (OP)
Why didn't they release it closer to July 4th weekend?

>>149124257
Its the saddest thing but even Big Hero Six is a failure. How so? The Big Hero Six series Disney made had horrible viewership. Goes to show that Big Hero Six was not a success in actuality. Disney only made Big Hero Six to flex that they own Marvel. That's it. It wasn't a popular Marvel brand that boys would be into like X Men or Spider-Man.

And the only thing Disney has for boys is image related but in recent years Kingdom Hearts has lost a LOT of popularity.

>>149122743
More like they ran out of Classic European Fairy Tales. Sure they haven't done all of them like Rumpelstiltskin for example but Disney has mostly used up all the famous ones. And because of copyright extension nothing has fallen into the public domain in generations. So Disney's other tactic of using public domain does not work unless they want to be sued.

>>149132376
>the Disney Live Action Remakes have MOSTLY been successful and profitable
50/50 at this point, which for how much they're investing in them isn't a great record

>>149123427
Sincerely hope that those two movies fail. But normies disappoint me so much. You ask a normie if they like Cameron's Avatar they openly say "Nah I hate that shit but I still inexplicably GOT to buy it."

Can a meteor from outer space destroy this fucking Earth already? Humans are dumber than micro organisms and micro organisms don't even have brains.

>>149131361
They're trying to copy Japan. Entertainment sees how Japan eats their lunch, so now they try to emulate them...just not the parts that are actually WHY people like the japanese stuff.

>>149123986
Ah yes but it works with Shitty Girls. Remember how many idiots loved Inside Out's obligatory sad crying scene with Riley?

You want to make money on touchy sensitive feelings you use Shitty Girls. Using girls is the Cheap Tactic that always works. Look at Last Dykes of Us. Look at the new video game by Capcom about the grown ass ugly man but his ally is a Robot Girl called Diana. The point is to always use girls if you want subhumans to buy it.

Not the nicest thing to say but its true, the money doesn't lie. The masses of customers buy into shitty girls.

>>149131361
The problem is not adult or young protagonists the problem is that the concepts and writing are garbage. Look at Disney's Wish. The main female is an adult and she failed with audiences.

>>149124335
And you said it. I refuse to believe Steven Universe has EVER been popular. It only got so many seasons and a movie and now a spin off incoming because of the Shitty Jewish Cunt Creator Privilege.

That's it. And I hate all the losers here who spam that hideous show with awful morals and degenerate homosexual trash.

>>149114059
Generic calarts MC, Disney version

>>149125077
>The Day the Earth Blew Up
I thought that came out this year. I forgot this was last year, because I saw it in theaters much earlier in March
or maybe it's because it's WB being WB and it was released overseas before being released in the states this year in theatres by Ketchup for distribution rights

>>149127976
The fact all those CGI movies has intros in full 2D. 2D is still mandatory in intros, musical videos and adaptation to serie for streaming services

>>149114528
>because now normies see being gay as a bad thing
It always was but we went from tolerance (at the expense of a couple unauthorized drone strikes and massive civilian surveillance programs) to people losing absolutely everything if they did not conform to the faggot norm of the day or whatever bullshit some rainbow pinko thought that afternoon.

The situation with Scott Adams and J.K Rowling was absolutely ridiculous.
I hope the pendulum swings back all the way to gay bashing.

>>149126729
But think of the message which probably is something along the lines of letting your kids near pedos.

>>149133274
Just like with feminism: tolerance fuels their tyranny.

>>149114302
Best metric here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_by_box_office_admissions

>>149113931 (OP)
I miss when a new Pixar movie felt like a huge deal rather than another mediocre movie to avoid.

>>149117201
The more Disney movies flop the better. So fucking tired of my theaters pushing out stuff I wanna see after only a few days while they'll let Disney hog screenings for months. Because of this movie I never got to see Dangerous Animals despite it playing for only two days here.

>>149133274
>The situation with Scott Adams and J.K Rowling was absolutely ridiculous.

I would not celebrate JK Rowling the creator of Harry Potter. She's still another piece of shit Leftist who supports race swapping white characters and Feminism Shit. And about the latter that's what you are all going to get spammed with....

We are going back to the most Leftism you will see in the coming decade is Feminism Shit. And I don't know about the rest of you but I always hated that shit. It's one of the reasons I rejected cartoons like Kimpossible or hell Miraculous Ladybug from recent times. Annoying shitty unrealistically overpowered Mary Sue and her bumbling incompetent male sidekick. Shit like this is why anime and gaming really became popular with dudes. And you can't blame them.

Western Industries hate males. And if they can't spam gay trash they will go back to spamming the acceptable agenda of Feminism which normies have no problems with. Even to this day idiot normies don't see nothing wrong with Feminism and I hope it kills the United States ruled by Jews. Remember its Jews funding Feminism Shit. If your nation and culture celebrates falsehoods you deserve to collapse.

>>149133412
That's because competing animation studios could all eventually deliver theatrical CG quality. Pixar is NOT the only game in town and they haven't had a monopoly in what is it nearly twenty years?

So if Pixar wants to survive they need to make fun, engaging, entertaining concepts. Touchy feeling bullshit has never actually been thrilling. Pixar's movies are honestly kind of boring when you study them. I can actually rewatch something like Puss in Boots Last Wish simply because I find it universally entertaining.

>>149133560
>while they'll let Disney hog screenings for months

This is how the recent Mufasa prequel movie beat Sonic Movie 3. Disney ensured Mufasa stayed in theaters much longer so that its box office was superior.

>>149122834
A VERY little compromise at the end of the manga, he loses the powers but gets a cool suit to continue being a Hero.

>>149123750
And not helping this was the plot changes they made, along with the scene changes that had to come along with them
>auntie used to be the mom
>main bad guy used to be part of the alien council
>no sign of the main bad guy's son
>he was gonna be sent to summer camp instead of military camp
>and the big one, he DIDN'T want to be abducted

>>149133957
>$21M
Oof, that's rough.

>>149119605
Zootopia is good because the hamfisted racial allegory can more or less be ignored all the way up until the very end of the movie and the world and Nick and Judy's interactions carry everything.
Hopefully the second movie focuses on what was actually good in the first one and stops trying to push the very transparent allegory that nobody cares about.
This is why I think elemental is just a poor man's Zootopia. It just goes full throttle on the allegory and gives up on making an interesting world. The whole elements thing falls apart the second you start thinking about it and the romance does not work when the whole thing about elements not mixing well is literally true and not just some byproduct of bigotry.

>>149134091
Zootopia's literal point for even existing is propaganda.

The only reason Zootopia made a billion is because humans are stupid and love Stupid Funny Talking Animals. This is why other animal movies like Madagascar and Ice Age made money. It's all about Look At The STUPID Funny Talking Animals.

Zootopia is shit but it was hard carried by Stupid Talking Animals. The reason Elemental which you called a poor man's Zootopia wasn't as successful is because it didn't use Stupid Talking Animals. Get this right already.

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>>149123658
I haven't seen any marketing in my online ads and I don't watch tv.

>>149120301
Your character's appearance seems fairly enough within the realm of possibility, although, from my point of view, she puts across somewhat of a "cosmetological" vibe, if you catch my drift.

Have you already tried rendering a prototype of her face with an "au naturel" look, as if she had just dried herself after taking a shower? I think said experiment would help you reach a more objective assessment of the basic shapes that comprise her facial structure, therefore allowing you to get hold of an intuitive gist of its subjacent anatomy.

In terms of specific advice, I recommend that you increase somewhat the circumference of her neck by adding extra thickness to its subcutaneous fat layer. Currently, her neck appears a bit too thin and defined to actually match the plumpness of your character's face, along with the general curviness of her physique.

Apart from that, her nose tip might be a little too bulbous (at least in terms of average shape and size), so I would suggest a slight reduction/softening of the major alar cartilages, but, to be frank, that's really a matter of personal taste.

>>149123131
Sadly that came out during the Pandemic.

I'm still pissed at the covid virus. And the Academy awards judges. Soul? SOUL? My fucking ass.

>>149123203
Huh. Maybe? That's genuinely a gray area because the studio pretty much gave up before it came out, and it was carried on a stretcher to a small number of venues by third parties.

>>149125077
Klaus had a near-simultaneous release in theaters and streaming, with the smaller number of theaters as basically an ad campaign... but that was great.

>>149131481
It's maximum cope is why

>>149127976
>no? That never happened
Yes. It did happened with cel animation.

>>149130617
Strange World looked actively unappealing to me. The characters didn't look cool and the supposedly awe inspiring environment we are supposed to fawn over looked ugly and gross.

>>149113931 (OP)
Not even being promoted every single day on ABC's news affiliates could save it.

Was this movie marketed at all? I swear I only heard about it existing the day after it came out.

>Ellio wants to be abducted by aliens
>Aliens abduct him
>He hangs out with a slug alien
That's all I know about the film based on the trailers. What's the actual plot though? Is there a villain? Or some sort of mission Ellio is trying to complete?

These studios have all the fucking money in the world, why cant they experiment with style? its all the same grubhub looking dogshit. Give me something thats visiually new/different to your last movies and I will consider watching it for that allone

>>149134797
Like, Hercules had the vase stuff, Mulan had pic related, and in all of them you could show me a still of a background and I would most likely be able, no characters visible at all. to go "Ah yeah, thats so and so movie"
With this shit its like "uhhh any of the ones from the last 15 years"

>>149113931 (OP)
They all look the same. I've already seen this movie without having to see it.

Why did Disney put out another "kid befriends aliens" movie at the same time as Lilo & Stitch?

>>149115406
The books is a blatant allegory for Russian Revolution (Which Orwell thought was good) and its subsequent betrayal by the party elite (Which George Orwell thought was bad). The pigs eventually became as bad as humans, but humans were always the pinnacle of badness.

The problem is you can't really make without underlying assumption that humans stand for something bad, so pigs can't be MAGA or something, unless you are a disgruntled republican who thinks Trump is RINO and just as bad as Biden.

>>149132234
When Pixar was still independent they ended their contract with Disney. Disney came out and said "Well, we still own the IP we distributed for you so we're going to make sequels to these without you".

Disney unveiled plans for Toy Story 2 in which Buzz Lightyear gets recalled for safety reasons. Lasseter got pissed off and publicly shat on them. The backlash against Disney that followed and the universally poor performance of all their films at the time made Disney realise they were fucked without Pixar and pumped a huge amount of money into buying Pixar, along with giving Lasseter a position as the head of Disney Animaiton.

>>149129028
Because in the name of diversity they lowered their standards and opened up their studio to a load of inexperienced animators who ticked boxes. These were all people straight out of Cal Arts or heavily influenced by them.

I'm not even exaggerating about lowering their standards. They even built a motion capture studio at Pixar HQ so that new animators wouldn't be intimidated by Pixar's now defunct pledge to always hand animate. The only reason Pixar films manage to look high quality now is because they have insane budgets and brute force the visuals, not because of the skill of the people involved.

>>149134890
It was specifically about the Bolshevik revolution but he was of the opinion that communism could never work because it would always end up with a ruling class exploiting everyone underneath them and it inherently destroys democracy (whereas in idealised socialism everyone has power and sway).

>>149116925
The clone was going to have an emotional break down due to being away from its friends and being in a foreign place and turns into a monster until Elio hugs it. It would parallel how Elio would be away from his friends in a foreign place.

>>149114337
from /tv/