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Anonymous No.149872789 >>149872826 >>149872868 >>149872874 >>149873067 >>149873132 >>149873209 >>149874340 >>149874477 >>149875462 >>149875720 >>149875957 >>149876005 >>149876901 >>149879740 >>149881800 >>149882342 >>149882596 >>149883245 >>149883273 >>149887954 >>149893244 >>149894632 >>149896465 >>149902688 >>149904665 >>149905569 >>149905736 >>149906048 >>149906058 >>149908955 >>149909117 >>149909132
You now remember that twenty-three buttfucking years after Rocko's Modern Life ended, Netflix came out with a sequel movie for no reason other than trans dog whistling.
Anonymous No.149872826 >>149876328
>>149872789 (OP)
>moral of static cling was "future good"
Putting this out in 2019 where bad shit like the culture war was really hitting up was the most tone deaf thing ever. What a shit moral, this future fucking sucks
Anonymous No.149872863 >>149880080 >>149885137 >>149901509 >>149910280
what a crappy way to end a series
Anonymous No.149872868 >>149872956 >>149875703 >>149876423 >>149876868 >>149880500 >>149881450 >>149894900 >>149902141 >>149905458
>>149872789 (OP)
Around the late 2010’s we got films based on old Nicktoons like:
>a Rocko movie
>a Hey Arnold movie
>an Invader Zim movie

Where was my Ren & Stimpy movie? Oh right, John K was exposed as a chomo around that time and killed the shows reputation, kill me, we could’ve had KINO
Anonymous No.149872874
>>149872789 (OP)
i remember they had a joke about starbucks but this same joke was being made when the show was still airing
Anonymous No.149872956 >>149875907 >>149880378
>>149872868
Hey, it wasn't all bad.
Anonymous No.149873067 >>149873177 >>149873567 >>149875646 >>149876038
>>149872789 (OP)
This was especially bizarre because the whole point of Rocko's Modern Life was, well, satirizing modern life. Like it's right there in the title. The show was an incredibly cynical look at day-to-day life in the 90s. And now the 90s are widely looked upon as a golden age and people are fretting about a billion social problems today, and the movie's response it to act like the modern world just resolved all of those previous issues and doesn't have any real ones to be concerned with today? The fuck?
Anonymous No.149873132 >>149874078
>>149872789 (OP)
Huh. When Bighead said, "I HAVE NO SON!" he was right?
Anonymous No.149873177 >>149881757
>>149873067
Yeah if it were true to the spirit of the original show it would've satirized the batshit insane people among the modern day LGBT movement that literally only have one personality trait and paint it everywhere they possibly can. I get that Joe wanted to spread a good message and all and I get the vibe he's pretty out of touch with the current times as it is, the trans plotline could've been woven in by some other hack writer, I don't know.
Anonymous No.149873209
>>149872789 (OP)
That’s not what a dogwhistle is.
Anonymous No.149873567 >>149880256
>>149873067
No, it adds up.

To preface: any community that gets it laughs by pretending to be idiots etc.
The ineffectual hippie approach to resolve problems lead to punks.
The ineffectual punk approach to solve problems lead to slackers.
The ineffectual slacker irony laden self-defeatist approach to refuse to care or recognize any solution to problems since nothing before seemed to work lead to those raised under the ill-informed, ill-prepared, ill-equipped, post-irony approach.

So much further down the ditch of inaction are they than their hippie and slacker predecessors they can't recognize problems on their own and wholly refuse to cede them when they're presented by another, because of discomfort or conditioning it becomes much easier to relabel a problem as not only no problem at all but even a pleasantness.
War, famine, disease, abject acts of evil? These are things no longer met with a sigh and muttered mantras nor an empowered yet impotent rant nor a wry smirk and sarcastic response, but a vacant smile.

We have created a society of lotus eaters.
The good news is if you ever think things seem bad, know the worst has not yet come.
Anonymous No.149874078
>>149873132
I clapped

Bighead is an ally and A clown
Anonymous No.149874340 >>149879740
>>149872789 (OP)
>dog whistling
The point of dog whistling is that only people "in the know" will get it. This was an air raid siren.
Anonymous No.149874477 >>149875012 >>149875040 >>149882685 >>149883425
>>149872789 (OP)
anon don't say 'trans' it's gross, supportive, and a fucking retarded way to speak. you don't abbreviate something down to its prefix.
the only reason they leave out the word 'sexual' is to downplay the sexual part so they can force it down kids' throats.
if 'transsexual' is too wordy for you, and it is, I mean god knows I never talk about it at all, why not 'TS.' after all, it's TS for them.
Anonymous No.149874983 >>149875527
Thank fuck for comics.
Anonymous No.149875012
>>149874477
Nta, I just say trannycore.
Anonymous No.149875040
>>149874477
>"make sure you're using the correct language"
Fuck now the chuds got HR seminars too?
Anonymous No.149875462
>>149872789 (OP)
In terms of pacing and timing, it felt closer to NuBob than the OG Rocko series. Hell, even the humor didn’t feel very Rocko-like.
Anonymous No.149875527 >>149912418
>>149874983
They also made comics around that time too
Anonymous No.149875646 >>149875935
>>149873067
And the Tiny Toons intro used to say they crack up all the censors and tried to push the envelope while the reboot completely curtailed and played it safe and inclusive.
My biggest issue with Static Cling beyond the weird trans plot was Filbert and Heffer would absolutely not be super supportive and heckin wholesome of Ralph being trans. Rocko would because he's a goody good like that but Heffer and Filbert used to shit on tons of people and even clowned on Rocko many times in the original series for being a moral do-gooder. I remember one episode ended with Rocko giving a moral speech and they along with a bunch of other people kick him out of the building and continue doing whatever it was they were doing.
Anonymous No.149875703
>>149872868
All we got was a soulless cashgrab series that didn’t even air in the US.
Anonymous No.149875720
>>149872789 (OP)
If Joe Murray got to make a new Camp Lazlo movie he'd make Lazlo and the rest of the Bean Scouts troon out
Anonymous No.149875907 >>149895242 >>149913180
>>149872956
Me on the left
Anonymous No.149875935 >>149909003 >>149913166
>>149875646
Yeah that's the other thing. The reaction felt forced. And probably because if they had actually done it in a more authentic to the show manner you would have the retards in power currently bitching and moaning trying to cancel it for more being 100% heccin supportive. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the script were changed last minute
Anonymous No.149875957
>>149872789 (OP)
The real nail in the coffin for this was that they confirmed they had some jokes they removed at the insistence of GLAAD representatives. No wonder they have that bizarre "THAT. IS. AWESOME" reaction to RaLpH's reveal.
Anonymous No.149876005 >>149876387
>>149872789 (OP)
Anonymous No.149876038 >>149879563
The trans stuff didn't phase me.
But nothing about this movie was particularly memorable. I remember more from the original Rocko's modern life. It felt very bland. And I feel bad about saying that, but it's sadly true. There was something special that the original had that this didn't. Wish I could tell you what it is, but worse than anything, this movie kinda just disappointed. I guess it kinda lacked teeth. It lacked satire. >>149873067 kinda mentioned it here. It didn't feel like it was making any kind of commentary on modern life that was amusing that I could recall. If I'm wrong, someone tell me. Please. Give me an example of a joke, any joke that satirized our modern society in any way. Something biting or scathing.
I don't remember it being offensively horrible either. Just sorta...There. It felt like background noise, even though I was paying attention. I guess that's the worst part in all this. It was very forgettable. The only thing memorable about it was the reaction to the trans ralph thing online and how that blew up everywhere. The whole reason I watched was because I thought it had to be either really really good or really really awful. Turns out it wasn't much of either.
But you know. That's just how I received it.
Anonymous No.149876328 >>149887954 >>149895045
>>149872826
The moral is that you have to take off the rose-tinted glasses that make you think Hey Arnold, Angry Beavers, and Rugrats were good shows, and you have to get ready for great new shows like Ollie's Pack, Middlemost Post, Rugrats (2021), and Rock Paper Scissors.
Anonymous No.149876387 >>149876895 >>149880279 >>149881800 >>149908376
>>149876005
You can't tell me Static Cling wouldn't have been better if they had made Mr. Bighead trans instead. Imagine Bev yelling at "Edna" to take her estrogen.
>"Rocko, do I look pretty?"
>rocko nervously says yes to be polite
But later he realizes he's miserable and detransitions. So he hangs out with Rocko and the boys to regain his masculinity. Through gaming. Ironically becoming a speedrunner.

He later gets taken to the hospital, dying. He asks Rocko to take him on "one last warthog run." Rocko pushes his bed out and together they escape the hospital while the Halo theme plays.

It ends with Mr. Bighead realizing it's the end of his life, and asking for Rocko to end him with the ultimate gamer move - the 360 no scope. Rocko reluctantly obliges his final wish. After Mr. Bighead drops to the ground, Heffer says "that was a hoot!"
Anonymous No.149876423 >>149881251
>>149872868
>an Invader Zim movie
The internet would've gone nuts over this movie if it released 20 years ago, but at least it eventually was made
Anonymous No.149876868 >>149877088 >>149877103 >>149881940
>>149872868
"Nicktoons" used to practically be a whole genre to itself. Now it's just Spongebob for 26 years straight and some Loud House in there too.
Anonymous No.149876895
>>149876387
Meh, doing the trans shit in general when there was so much to cover from the 90s to the 2010s didn't make a lot of sense for the movie. Maybe Mr Bighead as a transvestite because the couple is into kinky shit anyway as a sight gag, but nothing serious.
Anonymous No.149876901 >>149876914 >>149879157 >>149879740
>>149872789 (OP)
Why Ralph, when was RIGHT THERE!?
Anonymous No.149876914
>>149876901
*Peter was
Anonymous No.149877088 >>149879045
>>149876868
If nothing else, that bottom row kinda hints at why it ended up that way.
Anonymous No.149877103 >>149906025
>>149876868
By row descending:
>Golden Age
>Silver Age
>Bronze Age
>Second Renaissance
>Stagnation
Anonymous No.149877108 >>149878742
>HE thinks Raph becoming a cartoonist and losing contact with this father was meant to be taken at face value
what a retard lol
Anonymous No.149878742
>>149877108
Anonymous No.149879039
Between Static Cling, NuBob, and Ren and Stimpy 2024, how would you rank them?
Anonymous No.149879045 >>149880726
>>149877088
El Tigre and Mighty B were good though.
Anonymous No.149879157 >>149881844
>>149876901
weird as shit too considering Ralph is supposed to be an expy/author avatar of Joe Murray himself
Anonymous No.149879276 >>149879545 >>149879740
>Cartoon trannies make /co/ seethe
Anonymous No.149879545
>>149879276
yeah they're gross and nobody wants to look at them in cartoons
Anonymous No.149879563 >>149880173
>>149876038
>Give me an example of a joke, any joke that satirized our modern society in any way. Something biting or scathing.
Replacing creatives with literal worms using digital tools to make a cheap and soulless product (until they clean house in an act of what is likely animator's wish fulfillment)
Anonymous No.149879580 >>149879614 >>149880359 >>149881979
I personally find the whole message about how change is inevitable and not to live in the past extremely disingenuous when so many of these 90's showrunners talk about how the industry has gotten way worse and that making cartoons in a studio environment was objectively better 30 years ago.
Anonymous No.149879614
>>149879580
Tech industry is cavitating, phones increase resolution without adding features. Change is toxic. Especially when it has suffered a complete loss of identity from execuspeak rhetoric.

Persistent change requires infinite variation. We have never done this in the material plane.
Anonymous No.149879740
>>149872789 (OP)
This movie was one of the biggest "fuck you"s to its core audience that I have ever seen. Joe basically wanted to scold his own fans who simply liked the content they grew up with, and lecture them that they need to always accept change.

>>149874340
Exactly.

>>149876901
The irony of that segment is that men who dress as women is a joke.

>>149879276
Yep, just like real life.
Anonymous No.149880080
>>149872863
Makes that Invader Zim movie look like a masterpiece in comparison.
And I didn't even like that movie all that much.
Would've preferred they actually finished Season 2.
Anonymous No.149880173
>>149879563
A mild chuckle but appreciated anon. Saved me from having to rewatch this.
Anonymous No.149880256
>>149873567
>The good news is if you ever think things seem bad, know the worst has not yet come.
That doesn't really sound like good news
Anonymous No.149880279
>>149876387
>He later gets taken to the hospital, dying. He asks Rocko to take him on "one last warthog run." Rocko pushes his bed out and together they escape the hospital while the Halo theme plays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-T6lEYJHm8
Anonymous No.149880359 >>149880396 >>149882034 >>149882142
>>149879580
Some things genuinely get better with time, other things can get worse. People saying that things are just 100% worse now are retarded, but so are the people burying their heads and pretending like everything is just 100% better. Technology in general has basically reached the point where we're in the prologue of a sci-fi novel, this is an objective improvement compared to 30 years ago. At the same time the entertainment industry across the board, from cartoons to comics to film to music, is in a WAY worse state from a creative perspective and even in some ways a financial one.

All of that aside, it's still very much not in the spirit of the show, which is what... anyone watching a Rocko movie would be interested in seeing. The show showed both the ups and downs of modern life, making a finale movie that says "EVERYTHING IS GOOD NOW, CEASE WORRYING" is tonally disconnected not just from the actual reality people are seeing, but from the property itself.
Anonymous No.149880378
>>149872956
Yeah, you’re right. It was even worse!
Anonymous No.149880396 >>149880418 >>149893246
>>149880359
>"EVERYTHING IS GOOD NOW, CEASE WORRYING"
the message people who wanted to pick a bone with it took. Rocko never accepts the new show by the way, it's "your favorite show is now ruined by baby, BUT YOU CAN 3D PRINT A COMIC". Win and lose, give and take.
They had the personification of change itself jump in to spell everything out. He NEVER says change is good, just inevitable. And yet the drumbeat since it dropped has been "I can't believe they told us to just blindly love change". Well you shouldn't, because they never did.
Anonymous No.149880418 >>149880494 >>149880846
>>149880396
This. For some reason people mock the term "media literacy," but it really is a valuable thing to have.

Static Cling still sucked though, was mostly a big disappointment for me.
Anonymous No.149880494 >>149880552
>>149880418
The show was absolutely better, yes. Some of the more memorable gags ("NAAAKED", "this burp's for you", turn the page-wash your hands) came from the characters having time to just dick around. I feel like there was no time for them to breathe in the movie.
Anonymous No.149880500
>>149872868
Even if it wasn't made by an abusive pedophile who the fuck needs a lore ending to ren and stimpy
Anonymous No.149880552
>>149880494
>I feel like there was no time for them to breathe in the movie.
Yeah agreed. The pacing was the biggest issue. Everything felt rushed. I didn't totally hate it honestly, just found it disappointing.
Anonymous No.149880726
>>149879045
I won't deny that, but they're sandwiched between The X's and spin-offs. And it's a double-decker sandwich.
Anonymous No.149880846 >>149881125 >>149881365
>>149880418
people mock the term media literacy now because terminally online leftists love to use the term to make anything fit their dumb agendas
Anonymous No.149881125
>>149880846
Yeah sure, sometimes that happens. But too often those people mocking the term actually do lack media literacy and make themselves look retarded by mocking the term while saying things that prove they really do lack media literacy.
Anonymous No.149881251 >>149881280 >>149882650
>>149876423
I looked at a recent Invader Zim video and it barley reached 10k views. It's crazy to think this show was everywhere on the internet at one point and is almost forgotten.
Anonymous No.149881280 >>149881314 >>149881369 >>149895263
>>149881251
I miss the Invader Zim girls I knew in middle school. I wonder what happened to them.
Anonymous No.149881314 >>149881369
>>149881280
>I wonder what happened to them.
There was a tall nerdy girl with big ears I used to be friends with who showed my her Irken OCs during lunch. I wish I asked her out. Her drawings were pretty good too.
Anonymous No.149881365 >>149881510 >>149881779 >>149886339 >>149900074 >>149902610
>>149880846
Maybe that's because every piece of media ever IS left-wing.
Anonymous No.149881369
>>149881280
>>149881314
Not a girl, but I went to high school with Joe Johnston, the guy who went on to work on Steven Universe and Amphibia. I remember watching him draw GIR in class once. Cool dude.
Anonymous No.149881450 >>149881514
>>149872868
John K already got a chance to make updated Ren and Stimpy stuff back in 2004. It was shit.
Anonymous No.149881510
>>149881365
then why does every reboot change everything to be the opposite of what it used to be?
Anonymous No.149881514
>>149881450
There was going to be a Ren & Stimpy short before the SpongeBob movie Sponge Out of Water or another SpongeBob movie, but it got cut.

https://youtu.be/8ddWgtabp1I?si=W1h3bM2rpTpF7Eau
Here is an idea of what it would've been like (with John voicing the characters)
Anonymous No.149881757 >>149891998
>>149873177
Yeah but that would have turned it into the same old right wing parody shit which is never really funny, it always comes off as old man complaining about them damn kids.

A 2019 satirical take on the world would be
>Rocko being cancelled for not using the correct pronoun,
>Heffer getting into gaming and being an angry Call of duty psycho that yells at 12 year olds in discord,
>Filburt gets into online conspiracies and freaks out over O-Town styled Qanon conspiracies, throws away all medicine and takes pills and horse dewormers because radio show hosts sell it to him
>Rocko and his friends go to see the Snyder styled Really Really Big Man adaptation, hate it but have to deal with the cult-like fans after voicing how they don't like it
>Mr Dupette becomes mayor of O-Town and Ed Bighead is tasked with hiding all his scandals and deflecting the media
>Rocko is cancelled for fat shaming Heffer in public
>Chokey Chicken becomes scandalous for supporting a church, Heffer gets into trouble for still eating there while protestors are picketing outside
>Rocko Heffer, and Filburt go to an equality bake sale

All of it seems more like Rocko themed New Norm episodes.
Anonymous No.149881779 >>149893980 >>149905028
>>149881365
The difference is Old spider man would say "respect minorities!" and kids would go "Cool!" new spiderman would have that same message over and over again in the same banal, and curiously basic way "Hey kids, racism bad!" while making Peter look stupid and useless or washed up.

The problem isn't the message, its how its handled. And when you create character for people to bond with, don't be surprised when people who formed those bonds get upset at you making them look like bitches.
Anonymous No.149881800
>>149872789 (OP)
>>149876387
Show already covered that angle with Heffer's older brother back in the 90s anyway.
Anonymous No.149881844
>>149879157
That was the strangest thing of all.
Anonymous No.149881940 >>149882063
>>149876868
Viacom in general just sort of stopped giving a shit around 2009. all their channels were cultural forces but after they stopped caring, they let things stagnate and fall apart until they just did not matter any more.


>MTV was the center of youth culture, then they stopped giving a fuck and left Rob Drydeck watching youtube videos on 24/7. Now no one bothers with mtv. MTV directed what youth culture looked like, made spring break a huge event, was the main income of Daytona, everyone imitated it if they wanted a teen to watch their content.
>Comedy Central was fucking huge in the 00s, and the place where all major comedians got their start. Now it's just Office and South Park 24/7
>Nickelodeon was kid culture for the 90s and 00s, now it's just Spongebob all day and night. It used to be a theme park, magazine, full product line, movie production company, 5 channels, and made Canada kind of seem cool for a while.
Anonymous No.149881979 >>149895108 >>149900471
>>149879580
It's kind of a weird message when Nickelodeon became the nothing but 90s nostalgia channel that constantly reminds you how they were really cool in the 90s.
Anonymous No.149882034 >>149907583
>>149880359
It's kind of a side effect of the media turning into nothing but 80s nostalgia 24/7 and politics increasingly being in the hands of 80 somethings that only ever want to look back and talk about the good ol times, or actively want to artificially recreate those good ol times.

Our entire society since about 2010 has turned into almost nothing but look back, nostalgia, remember, and thinking everything new is bad, wrong, evil, and should be shunned for more nostalgia and old IPs forever and ever and ever. Everything on all levels of society is looking at the current year as the downfall timeline and only looking back.

It's like 70 and 80 somethings have just taken over all levels of society from entertainment to politics and they want things to be 1988 really badly right now!
Anonymous No.149882063 >>149882134 >>149882208 >>149882218
>>149881940
Even back in the 90's MTV was getting tons of criticism for straying away from their original intent of playing music videos 24/7.

But for a time they were like the closest equivalent to [adult swim] in the sense of producing a bunch of random adult cartoons. I mean if it wasn't for MTV taking a chance on Beavis and Butt-Head we might not have other Mike Judge projects like King of the Hill.
Anonymous No.149882134
>>149882063
>Even back in the 90's MTV was getting tons of criticism for straying away from their original intent of playing music videos 24/7.
and now all they play is Ridiculousness, christ how miserable to only have the same show on repeat for hours on end, and its not even really any good.
Anonymous No.149882142 >>149882157 >>149882218 >>149895130
>>149880359
>People saying that things are just 100% worse now are retarded, but so are the people burying their heads and pretending like everything is just 100% better.
While I wouldn't say it's 100% worse a lot of TV has devolved.

Channels used to have actual themes. TLC wasn't just some random letters it actually stood for something: The Learning Channel. It used to be a channel to learn cool science facts but then it just became a place to show a bunch of reality TV garbage like Honey Boo Boo.

Want a new hot TV show? Just film rednecks doing redneck shit and there's your new hit TV show.
Anonymous No.149882157
>>149882142
>it just became a place to show a bunch of reality TV garbage like Honey Boo Boo.
Even that was a long time ago now. TV is basically dead now, total wasteland. Everything is streaming.
Anonymous No.149882208
>>149882063
4chan still makes threads about Downtown, it was that good at capturing the young adult vibe of the late 90s.
Anonymous No.149882218 >>149882228 >>149882356 >>149883212
>>149882063
>>149882142
A shitton of channels lost their original meanings, History Channel started off with shows dedicated to history and then became a place for schizos to talk about "DAE Hitler was aliens???" and Cartoon Network, which started off as a place to show various old cartoons that Turner owned to a place for dumping Teen Titans Go 24/7
Anonymous No.149882228
>>149882218
Old history channel was fun. Even when it was mostly all WW2 stuff it was good.
Anonymous No.149882342
>>149872789 (OP)
you don’t know what dogwhistling is
Anonymous No.149882356 >>149883231
>>149882218
CN always had new cartoons, is just that a new cartoon at the time was dumb and dumber, yo yogi and two stupid dogs.
Anonymous No.149882596
>>149872789 (OP)
The sheer irony of a show that was dredged up 10 years too late solely to nostalgia bait 90s kids only to go "Nostalgia bad, Change good, Your childhood memories mean nothing compared to someone else's happiness or tastes" will never be lost on me
Anonymous No.149882650 >>149882698 >>149890728
>>149881251
The film and the comics for which a lot of it was based are completely antithetical to the spirit of the original series. Invader Zim was overtly cynical, mean, and dark both visually and narratively and that was the appeal. Zim was a narcissistic fuck up that was completely unwilling to accept his failures, Dib was an egotistical asshole with a messiah complex that thought he was above everyone, Gaz was a nihilist that used gaming to ignore how stupid the world was around her, and Gir was a hedonist that reveled in the stupidity of the world. By contrast the film is way too saccahrine to be confused with the original series.
Anonymous No.149882685
>>149874477
>you don't abbreviate something down to its prefix
says you, homo
Anonymous No.149882698 >>149890728
>>149882650
They based it partly off the comic, which intentionally made Dib's family less mean to him since apparently Jhonen Vasquez thought it was played out

Though the comic's epilogue at least ended appropriately for the show's original spirit, with Zim, Dib, and Gir trapped in a literal endless timeloop of shit
Anonymous No.149883212 >>149886379
>>149882218
Personally I hated the reality TV stuff more than the schizo stuff.
Anonymous No.149883231
>>149882356
It was still mostly a place to showcase old cartoons that Turner had acquired until they began to focus on original shows after 1999, then they began spamming TTGo after the mid 2010s
Anonymous No.149883245 >>149883290
>>149872789 (OP)
Since Filburt is a Woody Allen parody do you think he's a pedophile?
Anonymous No.149883273
>>149872789 (OP)
That's not what "dog whistling" means
Anonymous No.149883290
>>149883245
No, he seemed to be into the grown-up versions of girls he knew at his class reunion/turtle migration episode.
Virtually certain he's the type that wants to watch though.
Anonymous No.149883425 >>149883763
>>149874477
I call them transvestites
Anonymous No.149883763 >>149888411
>>149883425
A transvestite is not the same thing as a tranny.
A transvestite literally is just "a person who wears the clothes of the opposite sex."
The dictionary does not disambiguate any kind of difference between someone who is doing it as a fetish, gender identity thing or someone doing it for comedy. Bugs Bunny meets the definition.
Anonymous No.149885137
>>149872863
True
Anonymous No.149886339
>>149881365
Whites ARE minorities
Anonymous No.149886379 >>149895170
>>149883212
Nta but same. Whats worse is that zaslav loves the reality tv shit like a flaming faggot and pushes for it alot now
Anonymous No.149887954 >>149887994 >>149894356 >>149902962
>>149872789 (OP)
>>149876328
The movie had an overly simplistic message, which works for some lessons like ones we teach to children, but this movie tried to tackle bigger issues and fell flat on its face. The movie had a character called the winds of change, and you just have to accept change, no matter what it is. Which is fucking dumb as shit. I am sure all the jews in 1930s and 1940s Germany should have just accepted "the winds of change". Fucking retarded.
Anonymous No.149887994 >>149888122
>>149887954
>I am sure all the jews in 1930s and 1940s Germany should have just accepted "the winds of change".
If they did we wouldn't have this piece of shit film
Anonymous No.149888048
Low effort cartoon reboots are millennials' equivalent of the Holocaust
Anonymous No.149888122
>>149887994
Jews are really funny and talented people who do add a lot to the entertainment industry, but I do think it's a little extreme to think there would be no entertainment industry without them at all.
Anonymous No.149888411
>>149883763
this whole shit would be 10000x less painful if it just stopped at men wanting to wear women's clothes
Anonymous No.149890728
>>149882650
>>149882698
The lighter tone shift and the refusal and even mockery of using the secondary irkens in both the comics and movie were weird. They also had the unused scripts for season 2 they could have pulled from. It's like Jhonen was intentionally trying to ruin Invader Zim because he hated the fanbase, but also wanted to sellout to them by giving fangirls that quirky tone they mischaracterize things as.
Anonymous No.149891998
>>149881757
Why are you making some convoluted point about not wanting Rocko to do modern life satire because it would be accurate? I don't get you.
Anonymous No.149893244 >>149897733
>>149872789 (OP)
Yeah, we remembered. Now what?
Anonymous No.149893246
>>149880396
Took a while but somebody finally had the right of it

The point of the special is that if you can keep trying to ask for more of the show you like but you're not going to like that either

The people who made that show are different people

Joe Murray made his own self insert a tranny to get the message across

Doesn't make the special a masterpiece, but it's crazy how much people ignored the forest for the trees
Anonymous No.149893980 >>149905028
>>149881779
>"Hey kids, racism bad!" while making Peter look stupid and useless or washed up.

A female caracter would tell him this.
Anonymous No.149894356
>>149887954
I read Elie Weisel's "Night" in Middle School and he made the point that only one guy had the foresight to say this was going to hell and get out before they boarded up the ghetto. The rest insisted they could just keep on keeping on and things would largely work out right up until they were herded on trains.

I think his quote of "Change comes whether you want it or not" is pertinent even in the example you give.

And the character is "Whinds of Change". Don't know why.
Anonymous No.149894457
>OP ruins his thread right out the gate by misusing "dogwhistling"
>/co/ faggots continue to talk and drag it out anyway
Anonymous No.149894632 >>149894876 >>149899440
>>149872789 (OP)
Rocko was never good.
Anonymous No.149894876
>>149894632
Fuck you. It was better than both Ren and Stimpy and SpongeBob as a whole.
Anonymous No.149894900
>>149872868
never got the love for ren and stimpy besides le funny faces. It's mostly disgusting and mean spirited
Anonymous No.149895045 >>149895469
>>149876328

>The moral is that you have to take off the rose-tinted glasses that make you think Hey Arnold, Angry Beavers, and Rugrats were good shows, and you have to get ready for great new shows like Ollie's Pack, Middlemost Post, Rugrats (2021), and Rock Paper Scissors.

or watch shows for adults!! goddamn!!
Anonymous No.149895108
>>149881979
Nick had a good thing going for awhile. Nicktoons were great, and Nick at Night introduced retro kino to younger audiences.
Anonymous No.149895130 >>149902582
>>149882142
Anonymous No.149895170 >>149896687
>>149886379
He loves it because it’s cheap to make and can make bank if it takes off. Zaslav doesn’t care about actually making anything.
I miss when networks would actually care about prestige. Cheap slop always existed, but they’d make award bait shows too that wouldn’t be as profitable (or sometimes ran at a loss), but it would give them something to flex about.
Anonymous No.149895242
>>149875907
Proof please
Anonymous No.149895263 >>149897828
>>149881280
Most of them got married and became pretty boring, the ones I kept in touch with, at least. But I know one who dyed her hair blue and became a
photographer. She still has kind of a goth thing going on if I recall.
Anonymous No.149895469
>>149895045
Notice how people never defend newer cartoons
Anonymous No.149896465
>>149872789 (OP)
Fact: Frogs and fish can change their gender and it's not some tranny change. It's 100% biological for the sake of species continuation if there is not enough of the opposite sex.
Anonymous No.149896687 >>149897850
>>149895170
I wish zaslav died of a heart attack. He utterly ruined warner bros
Anonymous No.149897733
>>149893244
Anonymous No.149897828
>>149895263
She sounds hot
Anonymous No.149897850 >>149898452
>>149896687
He’s approaching entertainment from a 100% business perspective which makes sense if the only goal is to make money, but it completely loses sight of the fact that at one point actually creating entertainment was part of that equation.
Anonymous No.149898452
>>149897850
Im mad hes still alive, cant see how he hasnt been ousted from the company for all his terrible decision making
Anonymous No.149899440
>>149894632
Your balls was never good either.
Anonymous No.149900074
>>149881365
Every time some disengenuous faggot posts this disengenuous faggot comic made by a disengenuous faggot from Twitter (where disengenuous faggots like you belong) it's for the most disingenuous faggot reason. Disingenuous faggot.
Anonymous No.149900471
>>149881979
Pretty much every channel does that nowadays because they know they suck balls nowadays
Nick shills 90s-2000s nostalgia
Cartoon Network shills late 90s-early 2010s nostalgia
Disney Channel shills 2000s nostalgia
Anonymous No.149901509
>>149872863
Yeah it truly was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGGfnLBTLdY
Anonymous No.149902141
>>149872868
Wow....
Anonymous No.149902582
>>149895130
lol
Anonymous No.149902610
>>149881365
Anonymous No.149902688
>>149872789 (OP)
even i as a frikken kid saw that ralph was gay. being trans is just updating that shit.

still said i don't like it not one bit. they shit on the cast rocko heifer and filbert.
Anonymous No.149902962
>>149887954
>winds of change
I forgot about that particular bit until now. I'm gonna follow the Moskva.......down to Joe Murray's house.......and slap the shit out of him for making such an awful reboot
Anonymous No.149904665
>>149872789 (OP)
Ignoring the trans stuff and change moral, the special felt so rushed and underdeveloped and a lot of the humor came off as annoying or dull, not funny one bit. The animation timing and dialed-down redesigns made it even worse.

It's basically a cross between the shit SpongeBob and Ren and Stimpy are like these days. It's painful.
Anonymous No.149904736 >>149904965
okay you fucking idiots can LET THIS SHIT THREAD DIE NOW THANK YOU

FUCK my punisher thread dropped to page 10 in an hour but THIS SHIT has lasted TWO DAY>S?!
Anonymous No.149904965
>>149904736
Dropping takes an hour even sometimes at midnight. It will not slow down any time soon. Study how popularity or traction actually work if you care.
Anonymous No.149905007 >>149905136 >>149905179 >>149905639 >>149908330 >>149908376 >>149909153
Okay so what are the rules to writing a trans character? Because from what I've heard from all of you anons yapping that I should write a trans character without any modern stuff, like modern slang and no pride flags and not look ugly. Is that it? Is that all I have to do to make a good trans character? Not make him cringe and preach modern ideology stuff or whatever?
Anonymous No.149905028 >>149905375
>>149881779
>>149893980
Can someone send me proof? Because my only experience with Peter being washed up was Spider-verse and even then, he had a very happy ending where he's a happy father. How does one portray a character like Peter to have flaws and not have it be humiliating?
Anonymous No.149905136 >>149905290
>>149905007
The main faggotry is overexplaining abuse patterns. Make other characters not force the trope and your character is saved since they weren't doomed by the narrative.
Anonymous No.149905179 >>149905290
>>149905007
A lot of people in these threads just don't want trans characters period.
I'm not making any sort of comment on whether you should or they should either. Just an observation.
Anonymous No.149905290 >>149905347 >>149905364
>>149905136
What you said were words, and I did not understand any of it

>>149905179
I have noticed that too. They wanna take the bad case scenario they've seen in isolation and say that is exactly what will happen in regards to alphabet people.

With that all being said, I did not mind Rachel in the movie. I feel like people see trans people as mentally ill crazies who cancel you for misgendering them when twitter ain't even a real place. I mean it's fine to feel that the movie was badly made, but why do you have to bring up narratives to justify your points? You don't need to make a movie you thought sucked look even worse.
Anonymous No.149905347
>>149905290
Reiterated:
When I watched this movie, I was expecting something either really good or really bad with the way people were talking about it. I felt lied to because it was neither. It wasn't very memorable to the point that I couldn't remember most of the jokes. I feel like calling it awful or sucky might be overstating things. I might have even been able to laugh at, "wow, that's awful" if it was bad enough. But no, sadly I don't recall feeling much of anything after seeing it. Saying this about the movie makes me feel really bad because I like Joe Murray's stuff and I'm one of the few humans on Earth who liked Camp Lazlo. I liked the original Rocko's modern life. But this just felt uninspired somehow.
Anonymous No.149905364
>>149905290
>I did not mind Rachel in the movie
then you aren't familiar with the source material, because in execution, the reveal was very forced and hamfisted and totally fucked with the pacing of the rest of the movie.
Anonymous No.149905375
>>149905028
The video game with miles
Anonymous No.149905458 >>149905582
>>149872868
man that arnold movie was disappointing
Anonymous No.149905569
>>149872789 (OP)
>youre wrong for wanting to see more of your favorite show, fuck you audience
why was joe so spiteful?
Anonymous No.149905582
>>149905458
What happened in that movie? I only know his parents show up or something
Anonymous No.149905639 >>149905685
>>149905007
The way make a good trans character is not by removing the symbols or making them pretty, but by not having the story reinforce that the characters delusions about being able to change their gender are true.
Anonymous No.149905685 >>149905845
>>149905639
No story that has featured a troon has EVER portrayed them in a believable, sympathetic light, because that would require honesty, and honesty is anathema to troons
Anonymous No.149905736
>>149872789 (OP)
The thing I hate the most outta Static Cling is that it was shaping up to be a decent, if forgettable, Rocko episode. Then the Edna plot started, and I felt all the goodwill I had leave my body.

>When you enjoyed the Hey Arnold! movie and Invader Zim movie over probably one of your favorite Nicktoon thing.
I'm thankful Angry Beavers is safe.
Anonymous No.149905845 >>149905902
>>149905685
Different anon and I promise I'm not trying to convince or argue here, but do you think you could ever feel sympathy for a tranny?
Anonymous No.149905902
>>149905845
Yes, and I have. When some young kid is forced by his insane woke mother to transition, and later regrets it but knows there is no real path back to normalcy? That shit is tragic.
Anonymous No.149906020
hot take: the only ones i actually label troon are the batshit insane terminally online activists you see on twitter. i also like to call them transtrenders.
i have met and been friends with a couple of people who keep that shit to themselves. am i personally crazy about it? not really, but it's not my business to snoop around in. the problem is the modern day LGBT movement is infested with the former and they've become such a loud minority, if they even are the minority at this point.
Anonymous No.149906025 >>149906080
>>149877103
Anonymous No.149906048
>>149872789 (OP)
>You now remember that twenty-three buttfucking years after Rocko's Modern Life ended
>twenty-three buttfucking years
Well maybe that's how OP spent the last 23 years.
Anonymous No.149906058 >>149906071
>>149872789 (OP)
You're such a fucking loser.

YWNBAW
Anonymous No.149906071 >>149908915
>>149906058
Your thread sucked. That's why no one replied.
Anonymous No.149906080
>>149906025
How would you split up the eras for the other networks?
Anonymous No.149907583
>>149882034
The worst part is that I see this mindset here on /co/ more than anywhere else. People here will shit on indie animation or web comics just because they're new and different rather than because of any of the completely valid criticisms you can levy towards them. And the worst part is that I can't tell if half of them are just trolling or not because they sound genuinely pissed off at something new existing. I'm not saying you gotta go suck off Hazbin Hotel or Skibidi Toilet for existing but at least give something new a try.
Anonymous No.149908231
>thought that orange man would at least stop trans propoganda
>it's still going
dammit
Anonymous No.149908330 >>149908376
>>149905007
>writing a trans character
Anonymous No.149908376
>>149905007
>>149908330
See >>149876387
That's how it's done
Anonymous No.149908915 >>149908941 >>149909568
>>149906071
Anonymous No.149908941
>>149908915
shuddup you chocolate cake
Anonymous No.149908955 >>149908987
>>149872789 (OP)
>brings back something decades old
>for one movie/short
>it's shit
At least it can't be as lame as 6Teen's vote episode.
Anonymous No.149908987 >>149909111
>>149908955
That episode was fucking kino though
Anonymous No.149909003 >>149913166
>>149875935
>the reaction felt forced
You can tell the crew was walking on eggshells. Heffer, Rocko, nobody even tried to ask what that means. I know lgbt wasn't invented yesterday, and I wouldn't want a Transformers EarthSpark-tier explanation on what being trans is, but just accepting it feels like no joke was attempted. Not even making Heffer look stupid by asking a stupid question.
Anonymous No.149909111
>>149908987
Honestly as a low-level 6teen fan, the last thing I want to see is the gang standing around talking about America. I mean I had no hope since it was only one episode, but I was still let down.
Anonymous No.149909117
>>149872789 (OP)
Heffer's brother was going outside wearing a tutu you drooling retard.
Anonymous No.149909132
>>149872789 (OP)
SPOOOONKIE
SPOOOONKIE
UOOOOOOHHH UHUHUHU

LEWNSON HOOK
Anonymous No.149909153
>>149905007
The same as writing a black, gay, fat, Muslim, or disabled character: if the story isn't about it, keep it as trivia.
Don't go out of your way to make it a big thing. Don't have him announce it and then everybody has to validate him or offer an opinion or whatever. It's part of the character that's very important to him, sure, but that doesn't mean you have to give him the camera so he can talk to the audience about it.
Anonymous No.149909568
>>149908915
The alternative is that he intentionally try to change the world into...something that DOESN'T suit him?
Anonymous No.149910280
>>149872863
And we never get more good closure for this series.
Anonymous No.149912418
>>149875527
What is this from
Anonymous No.149913166 >>149913184 >>149913205
>>149875935
>>149909003
They literally had the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation org reviewing the script 24/7
>GLAAD got involved in 2016 at the suggestion of Nickelodeon. “When I read the story outline, I was happy to see that Rachel’s gender was treated as a non-issue by Rocko and his friends, and that Rachel’s father finally realized that he loves and supports his daughter,” Director Adams writes. “I worked with the show’s creators to ensure that Rachel was drawn in a respectful way, so that her femininity wasn’t a joke. We also talked about how to portray the moment Rachel reveals her transition to the boys so that it wasn’t sensationalistic. From story outline to storyboards to animatics, to the final show, Nickelodeon kept GLAAD updated every step of the way.”
Anonymous No.149913180
>>149875907
Hey
Anonymous No.149913184
>>149913166
>I worked with the show’s creators to ensure that Rachel was drawn in a respectful way, so that her femininity wasn’t a joke
ITS A COMEDY YOU FUCKING RETARDS

I literally am LGBT but these faggots have the thinest fucking skin imaginable
Anonymous No.149913205
>>149913166
If they didn't want it to be a thing they didn't have to mention being a tranny at all.
Anonymous No.149913272 >>149913849
They make whistles for trans dogs?
Anonymous No.149913849
>>149913272
>They make whistles for trans dogs?
Excuse me? Elaborate there, hombre?
Anonymous No.149913864
Mind Broken.
Anonymous No.149913887 >>149914059
Honestly I think my main take away is how it’s funny that I see more people talk and reminisce about the IZ movie (even if it’s just to shit on it) while this one has just been forgotten.
I am well aware that’s in the same vein as “>I am le forgotten” that some faggots spit out, but in this case, it might as well be true. Hell, the people being pandered here talk more about their stupid tranny headcannons than the actual canonical tranny from this special. It really just had no impact, especially when coupled along with a moral that is more annoying than anything else.
Anonymous No.149914059
>>149913887
It deserves to be forgotten. I actually liked the invader zim movie but HATED the rocko movie when it came out. The time period it came out in (the Late 2010s) was fucking awful so its insulting to be lectured to be the film about how change is "inherently good". So it feels poetic that no one even mentions it now outside of /co/ because not only did its shitty moral not hold water but very few people even care to acknowledge the movies existence anymore.