Thread 150169740

Post times when a show contradicts itself and shits on what was established before.

In the new season of Gumball, Richard is stated to be 30 years old. This makes zero sense as "The Laziest"mentions that Richard beat Larry in a lazy competion in the Summer of 83. Also "The Line" has him being a OG fan of the Star Wars movies and watched the premieres and Holiday specials.

that's called flowing timeline

>>150169740 (OP)
It's the same situation with Homer originally was in the class if 1977, then he was college age in the mid 90s, now it's the early 2010s.

Richard was wearing a Nirvana shirt when Gumball was born in 2002, now that's 2015. Richard is now only a few years older than season 1 Gumball.

>>150169740 (OP)
Well this could be a number of things.
A. Richard is canonically an idiot and saying the wrong age
B. The writers / VA meant to say '30s' because Ben said their canon age was 39 on twitter a year or two ago.
C. Maybe the writers meant to say '40'? Since that'd make sense since they're aging up?

>>150169740 (OP)
I would have thought by now that people would realize that the Gumball writers purposely fuck with their own continuity because it’s obvious they selectively pick and choose what gets retconned or not on the whim of “funny or meaningful in the moment”.
The Final from Season 2 was made entirely on the idea of shitting on continuity with the ending just resetting everything at the end right after establishing what the consequences of hard continuity would bring to the show.
Not that I think that’s an inherit good thing or anything since I think it’s a form of insincerity, even if they have a meta dimension ready to justify every retcon so far if they wanted.
And also I wouldn’t take your pic seriously anyway because the ages are largely irrelevant.

Fairly Oddparents is full of these.

In Owl House, at the end of the 2nd Ep of S2, Hunter arrives at Alador's factory saying how the Emperor wants to buy all of Alador's currently made Abominations and will continue to pay him for every Abomination he sends straight over to the Emperor's Coven HQ. You're led to believe that Hunter is this brilliant mastermind who works for the Emperor but its revealed later, and entirely subtextually, and not even just that subtextually OFF SCREEN that right after this, Odalia spoke to the Emperor, alone, the Emperor went and told Odalia everything about his plan right down to "im gonna literally kill everyone in the boiling isles" and Odalia still wanted Amity to consider joining the Emperor's coven despite how this suggests if she already knew the Emperor's plan then Amity would be marked for the Day of Unity so you're led to believe that when everyone was killed on the Day of Unity, the Emperor's Coven would be reborn under Odalia despite the fact how if everyone is dead the only people who would make up the new coven would be the Blight family name or that is still a big implication that Belos wouldnt just kill them as well

No one talks about the fact how there is a huge implication how Odalia not only knew about the day of Unity and what it was about but her family was "spared" which if Belos wanted to kill everyone why give Odalia virtually an empty kingdom full of corpses

I find the story hilarious in a stupid way but its riddled with plotholes. It make me think if this show went 6 seasons Dana was gonna really consider leaning deep into making Odalia a proper villain.

>>150169740 (OP)
obsessing over canon is a fandom thing. writers in the industry don't care

>>150170428
Blame poof

>>150169740 (OP)
Spongebob Season 5 with Jim

>>150169740 (OP)
I assumed he meant "in his 30s"

>>150171200
yeah that made the show funny

>>150171231
I didn't mind the personality shift like others i'm just autistic about stuff like that

Steven Universe eventually revealed that a bunch of the monsters the Crystal Gems were fighting were actually corrupted gems, but then dropped a bunch of the other creatures and left them unexplained, like the cloud Amethyst ate or the thing that possessed the Together Breakfast.

>>150169740 (OP)
>Gumball went from an underdog and normal kid without powers in a fantastical world that punishes him for existing, to a low tier reality warper that will literally die if he stops being a jerk for too long like Roger from American Dad and doesn't get punished enough
This is not even flanderization anymore. It's a completely opposite character. I don't even hate modern Gumball, in fact I rewatch mostly it over classic Gumball, but I understand why this is so frustrating to people.

>Richard is now nearly a zoomer
Grim

>>150171733
>that will literally die if he stops being a jerk for too long
Is this a real episode that I don't remember or something you're pulling out of your ass to make up reasons to hate the later seasons?

Family Guy does it every episode.

>>150171915
The Test has Gumball under extraordinary stress as Tobias becomes the main character (which ironically he still isn’t). I don’t remember if Gumball’s actually dying but he gets fucked up from it either way until Tobias jumps the shark.
At first glance it’s called The Test because Gumball takes an online personality test but second glances might make it look like the real test was Gumball reassuming his role as the king of jackasses.

>>150171915
https://youtu.be/tjMrXPJTWNs?feature=shared

Family Guy had an episode a short while ago where Stewie says his first word that everyone understands and there's an upcoming episode where Lois gets high is shocked to hear him talk.

>>150172074
Okay I remember this episode now.
Yeah it's one of the worst in the series.

>>150171915
I thought he was getting confused with the American Dad episode where Roger had a similar plot

>>150171733
Season 1 Gumball is as different from season 2-3 Gumball as season 2-3 Gumball is to season 5-6 Gumball. Season 1 Gumball was a cinnamon roll and it genuinely hurt seeing him get fucked over. I could understand why they changed him after that, but they really started making him too much like Bloo 2.0
At least in the new season they seem to tone his jerkiness

>>150172162
Dude

>>150169845
The problem is that Richard being 30 means Nicole got pregnant when she was 17. I like the idea but it contradicts The Choices.

>>150172195
>Season 1 Gumball was a cinnamon roll and it genuinely hurt seeing him get fucked over. I could understand why they changed him after that
exactly, Gumball's original characterization was too nice to work for the "Universe's Punching Bag" role they wanted him(and to a lesser degree the rest of the family), hence why he became more of a jerk in later seasons as it made him being a punching bag funnier as it feels more deserved

>>150172595
Die Enterfag

>>150173284
It's okay anon, Enter isn't under your bed or in your closet

Why can't you just put "Gumball thread" in the OP instead of anything but

>>150169740 (OP)
Sex with Anais

I've finally caught up to all of Gumball. I did this so I could catch up to the rest of /co/ and all their arguments about their CN romance bitching.
Honestly I have no idea why you didn't abandon this show after season 2, they might've never had a breakup episode but man were so many episodes just "it's funny because pain and suffering". Especially this most recent half-season.

In the first SpongeBob Christmas special, Santa Claus was depicted as a live-action man. Later episodes have him animated.

>>150173375
I had delusions that the show would be entirely different from what it eventually turned into way too late into the show when it was airing and so I struck around out of sunk cost.

>>150169740 (OP)
Ben is a hack.

>trying to establish continuity in an episodic comedy cartoon for kids
>thinking the writers care about minute details instead of just writing whatever is funny

I never understand why people like to go down this rabbit hole. It's really just not that deep lol

Since this is probably gonna turn into a 'Gumball Sux Now' thread I'm gonna post my ranking for the most recent season.

>>150171231
sure, everyone thinks so. I only see positive things about Foster's posted here
>>150173417
>Santa Claus was depicted as a live-action man
yeah who is that?

>>150174233
The Distance was the worst episode, too many homoerotic tones and flanderized the characters to fit the plot. Darwin was always the one who was clingy, not Gumball.

>>150174329
I was tempted to put it lower but
A. The 'close brotherly love' episodes / moments tend to be ones I enjoy the most [even if this one took it a little too far]. "The Origins" is in my top 5 in the whole series
B. There was admittedly some pretty funny gags and references throughout.

Star being part bug

>>150174233
Why did you have those as the bottom?

>>150174233
>The Letter at S+
>The Distance at B
Those were the worst ones. Carrie is never recovering from the former especially.

>>150174909
The Climb was just really cringy and embarrassing to watch and it's what I imagine most modern-gumball haters see when they think of Gumball.
The Gut was just a really gross episode with an awful way of presenting its moral and I could've lived without seeing it.
The Boring is boring. And Tina is a cunt.

>>150175242
>And Tina is a cunt.
That's always been the point of her.
So are certain characters not allowed to exist?

>>150173417
every new spongebob character design just looks so out of place

>>150175269
>So are certain characters not allowed to exist?
They're allowed to exist, and I'm allowed to not like the episodes they're in.
Besides there's been other appearances I didn't mind her in or thought she was slightly in the right but she was just awful in that episode in particular.

>>150175333
>Besides there's been other appearances I didn't mind her in
List them.

>>150175380
I don't remember the episode names off hand but there's two that come to mind:
>The episode where she was bullying him but it turned out to be a big misunderstanding and they're on better terms.
>The episode where in the intro Tina was chasing him and gave him the chance to take back what he said, and he doubled down.
The latter was ALL Gumball. I don't love Tina but all he had to do was 'lie' for 10 seconds and he'd have avoided the pumbling.

>>150175436
>but it turned out to be a big misunderstanding and they're on better terms
The episode begins and ends with Tina smashing Gumball's face into his food.

>>150174329
>Darwin was always the one who was clingy, not Gumball.
this
i strongly get the feeling there are new writers on board that aren't actually very familiar with the source material they're writing for which was my worst fear going into this new season, since it's been so long.
The same bullshit as Carrie suddenly apparently hating the concept of affection itself and her and Darwin's chemistry being stilted and awkward, and acting as if The Drama, literally one of the last episodes of the show before it went on hiatus, didn't happen.

>>150175566
That's still more 'playful' than practically trying to murder him after school. She has her not awful moments is all I'm saying.
The Boring is an awful moment.

>>150175604
>That's still more 'playful'
And it's me being playful when I trip you in a game of soccer.
There are a lot better ways of being playful and ending the episode by repeating how it started is not one of them.

>>150175636
I'm trying to give a character benefit of doubt and now you're trying to talk me into hating her more?
I'm assuming you're not the same anon as earlier but still, I'm trying to give her a chance.

>>150175666
>I'm trying to give a character benefit of doubt and now you're trying to talk me into hating her more?
Yeah.

>>150175636
no offense but you sound like mr enter. that's the point of tina's character, she's a bitch
what personally bothers ME about the fight is that it didn't need to happen at all. she was already established as being a brutish bitch, instances like the following
>her flipping out all because her sandwich fell on the floor and stuffing gumball in darwin's mouth
>her insulting him over his mom; you cannot argue it was anything else she very clearly was trying to bully him
>she was already associated with jamie
cannot be shrugged off as whatever excuse for her behavior it was at the end of The Fight. I almost wonder if the point was that she was lying and trying to emotionally manipulate Gumball, which I find the funnier option and would explain why they're right back to butting heads in season 2.

>>150175242
>complaining that Tina is a cunt in The Boring while having The Letter in S+ where Carrie is a flanderized cunt
>Tina wasn't even entirely in the wrong in The Boring
Your logic is impressively retarded.

>>150176076
>Tina wasn't even entirely in the wrong
Justify Tina's actions, then.
If she 'wasn't entirely wrong' should be easy.

>>150176133
Easy. Gumball and Darwin ruin her art after ignoring everyone all day and being inconsiderate of the world around them.

>>150176163
And instead of just saying 'hey you ruined my art' and giving them a chance she goes 'I'm going to murder you'?
I'm not inclined to be generous.

>>150176133
Tina was mad because they ignored her when asking them to take precaution of her dinosaur art work that honored her heritage, they then trampled over said piece, then the boys insulted it in confusion when not understanding what it was, and finally Tina expressed that they weren't listening to her at all before announcing that she would beat them.
They threw insults at her heritage instead of stopping and listening because their own hypocritical hubris caught up to them.

>>150176212
She tried to, but they wouldn't listen. Regardless, she still was less of a cunt than Carrie in The Letter.

>>150176341
Hmmm.
Perhaps I owe the episode a rewatch.
If I can get past Molly maybe I'll give it a better understanding.

>>150169964
>because it’s obvious they selectively pick and choose what gets retconned or not on the whim of “funny or meaningful in the moment”.
This is what every comedy writer would do with their shows.

>>150170579
Ain't it weird how nearly all recent Disney shows had rush endings?

>>150171915
>>150172029
I thought it was the episode with Leslie (or Alan) where Gumball had to stop being toxic. I only recall the ending when they said it's ok for Gumball to let out his anger and then he vomits up toxic sludge and spews it all over Leslie/Alan. At that point Gumball was green and rotting like he couldn't hold his toxicity in and he had to be a jerk.

To the anon who keeps sperging out over the letter when the armadin was a way worser ship episode that made penny a completely different character for the worse, Darwin and Carrie will have a two part special in the second batch of episodes.
Meaning will have a reason why she acted that way in the letter.

Did any of you faggots read the interview of Ben bocquelet disscusing upcoming episodes for season 8?
Actual tourists...

>>150176668
No.
Link it.
I'm intrigued.

>>150176637
Who's sperging? I just said The Letter is bad and used it as an example of why it's weird anon is upset at Tina for being a cunt, but likes that episode. Also, we have no idea yet if that two parter will fix the problems with it or double down on them like every Carwin episode previously has added more problems to the relationship.
>when the armadin was a way worser ship episode that made penny a completely different character for the worse
The Amadain was not great, but Penny and Gumball's relationship was already going downhill for seasons, so it doesn't feel as offensive.

>>150176730
>>150176788
Do not reply to him he’s bating you

>>150176668
Caring about that faggot is the actual newfag shit.

How many Krabby Patty origin stories are there now?

>>150176730
https://telltaletv.com/2025/07/the-wonderfully-weird-world-of-gumball-creators-interview-ben-bocquelet-erik-fountain/
Here's the interview
And here's the video of that said interview
https://youtu.be/mR9VClUGET0?si=wz4tmpKOeiw8dNRL

>>150176895
>“This is what we’re trying to do with the shipping,” Bocquelet explained. “We’re trying to sort of have this time capsule of what the fans were trying to do with their original creations and stuff, in relationship to Gumball and stuff.”
So, where are the mom/son incest jokes?

>>150176803
>Upcoming news for more tawog eps
>newfag
The term has been bastardized if you think that actually meant something

>>150176788
Ben already confirmed the two parter episode of Carwin is gonna make them more a refined ship as seen here>>150176895
Gumball and Penny never had a two part episode about them btw.

>Ben already confirmed
I'll believe his writing isn't bad when he stops writing badly.

>>150169740 (OP)

Cars 3, Cars On The Road and those non-Mater themed shorts forgetting that Cars 2 even happen.

Even that upcoming Cars show for preschoolers will never mention Cars 2

>>150176848
Only the backstory in "Krusty Krab Training Video" I consider canon. Friend or Foe while good, is generic shit.

>>150177105
You get lesbian jokes instead.

>>150172549
Not really, it definitely looks like a teen pregnancy type of thing n the origin episode

You can tell they only did this for shock humor.

>>150178247
In the choices, Nicole gets pregnant years after leaving her house. It wasn't a teen pregnancy. In a pre-hiatus thread, someone calculated she was 25 when it happened.

>>150169754
Nah, that's called Ben being a hack who doesn't want to be bound by such silly things as worldbuilding and characterization.

Retcons are fine if its a episodic gag cartoon. Nobody gives a shit when Animaniacs contradicts itself because they just do whatever they awnt.

>>150178790
Animaniacs didn't take itself seriously. Gumball wants to be serious with episodes like the choices and all the void shit

>>150176620
>and spews it all over Leslie/Alan
That was Tobias and Gumball's vitriol burned away his face all the way to the back of his head, much to the horror of a nurse who was taking care of him.

>>150178244
>Kids show
Groomers.

>>150173375
>Honestly I have no idea why you didn't abandon this show after season 2
I've bought into the whole schtick of 'enjoying' things ironically right before S1 was released and that kept me going even after genuine goodness of S2 made way for progressively worse seasons. I've become irony-poisoned to such an extent that, even as I found it unbearable to watch new episodes, I've kept convincing myself that this is one of the best series I've ever watched.

>>150174233
>The Portrait that low
Fag

>>150178932
Showrunners had VAs for Gumball and Darwin read what amounts to a phone sex joke. Both VAs were and are underage due to Ben not wanting to have them be voiced by female VAs. How is that for a grooming?

>>150178988
Source on this?

>>150178244
>pic
Didn't happen btw

king neptune

>>150178988
so this is the kind of brainrot you get from browsing twitter all day

>>150171200
>>150171231
to be honest the vibe of the show itself vs the pilot always felt so different. the best way i can describe it is foster's home the show feels like a newgrounds flash parody of the pilot where everybody's just an asshole and out of character. it's interesting Craig went the direction he did with it, i wonder why it happened so abruptly though

>>150178959
Why do people hate season 3? t-face wasn't a thing there.

>>150179142
NTA but ive never met anyone who hated season 3 in particular and didn't hate everything that came after

>>150179140
I'd blame execs, but back then Craig actually believed that this was a good direction to take.

>>150179252
i couldve sworn he said somewhere else how he wouldve had more of an emphasis on character development especially in bloo's case but execs didn't like that
even then
>somebody had to create the conflict
they could've just had it be a different friend every time. duchess was originally designed to be 'the most abhorrent friend in the house' which becomes ironic when it feels like bloo himself usurped that role in later seasons

>>150179327
>when it feels like bloo himself usurped that role in later seasons
That by itself wasn't so bad, given how showrunners eventually made an episode about Bloo wanting to evade a pummeling, with everyone else wanting to see him obliterated: https://youtu.be/Piz8P1pql-Q
The truly bad thing about this direction was writers seeking to maintain Bloo's abominable nature while simultaneously stripping almost everyone else of any capacity to get angry at him for destroying their lives 24/7. So if you enjoyed, say, Wilt going nuclear over Bloo's antics that one time - then hopefully you had your fill because that's the only time writers allowed it to happen.

ITT manboys take funny shows way to fucking seriously.

>>150179107
It does sound insane the way he put it, but it is true that it was nothing but a phone sex joke, that indeed had to be voiced by children. Not blatant enough for me to consider it entirely inappropriate but it was strange

>>150179444
>Wilt
Do you mean that one time Wilt had a melty over the 'hows the weather up there' joke in that episode you mentioned? Because I'll be honest that was just the wrong time to see him blow up on Bloo it was so unwarranted. In general I always felt like that episode was one of the rare times Bloo was sympathetic. It was funnier seeing him prank the shit out of Bloo in the pranks episode. I think that one was from the last season

>>150179486
Don't you have places to be?

You can tell new writers are in S7, they don't understand the characters and fill it with reaction faces.

>>150179547
Well, this was one of the very few instances of Wilt growing a spine and a pair, so I was willing to overlook it being OOC. Since then writers doubled down on making niceness and spinelessness his only only traits, turning him into a mindless caricature of his pilot self.

>>150179903
>and fill it with reaction faces
Didn't they always do this?

>>150179903
The lack of Mic Graves is very noticeable.

>>150178988
Ew. The Distance is such garbage.

>>150179903
Is anyone going to actually point out when new writers came on board because this has been a complaint since season 5 and then way more in season 6

Arthur had an episode where a parody of Lance Armstrong helped Binky win a bike race and a later episode calling back to it retconned him into the real Lance Armstrong.

Didn't Mr. Ratburn have a thing for the librarian before they made him gay?

>>150179887
Oh, come on - it's not THAT bad, right?

>>150181470
I think it's overblown and that it's the least of my complaints for the show desu
but again this is the place that will take my own words from one thread and try to use them against me in the next so I guess I shouldn't complain about the complaining.

>>150169754
This is why flanderization happens, writers just wing it until only the most exaggerated aspect of a character exist in their mind. You kind of need to keep track of characterizations to avoid flanderization.

>>150181649
>that will take my own words from one thread and try to use them against me in the next
This only happened once and I've stopped after that one instance.

KOTH changed Peggy's mom

I don't like how they turn Lynn Jr from a loving jock who cares about her brother in season 1 to a bully who doesn't care about him half of the time. Remember when she didn't call him "Stinkin"?
Was this a poor attempt for the writers to discourage the fandom from shipping Lincoln and Lynn?

>>150179327
I like how Bloo was so bad that Duchess lost interest in killing him lol.

>>150169754
This post is so obnoxious.
>Why is x bad and being used?
>x is normal, shuddup.

>>150179486
The seething over Bloo never gets old

>>150181470
Oh my god, man.

>>150169740 (OP)
I'm ready this time.

Despite taking place over a single school year, "Teacher's Pet" has Spot and Leonard go through two Halloween and Christmas episodes. While you can make the case that "A Dog for All Seasons" and "The Blight Before Christmas" take place during the same December, the same can't be said for the Halloween episodes, "Costume Pity Party" and "The Tale of the Telltale Taffy". "The Tale of the Telltale Taffy" has the two mention that this will be their first Trick or Treat by themselves, but we see them trick or treating by themselves at the end of "Costume Pity Party". Furthermore, their costumes are different. This leads to two possibilities.
A. Their neighborhood has two annual Trick or Treat nights.
B. These are two separate Halloweens.
If we go by "A", it's questionable, but plausible, but "B" creates some issues. Since they're trick or treating by themselves at the end of "Costume Pity Party", that means "The Tale of the Telltale Taffy" happens first. However, the latter can't happen first because Leonard has a resentment for Halloween at the beginning of the former; meaning he should hate Halloween during "The Tale of the Telltale Taffy". Also, "Costume Pity Party" has the majority of the episode taking place at school, in the 4th. grade class. If this is a separate Halloween from "The Tale of the Telltale Taffy", that would mean this episode takes place during the 5th. grade. However, since Spot gives up his boy persona at the end of the movie(which takes place during Summer Vacation), he shouldn't have any desire to got to school at all, let alone a school Halloween party.

>>150177746
Now if only Toy Story 4 and 5 could get the same treatment.

>>150185383
This is just normal cartoon shit. The Simpsons have had a bunch of Christmas episodes despite never aging. Bart's graduated from 4th grade fifty times.

A whole bunch of babies on The Simpsons have been born after Maggie and grown older than her.

>>150185632
Seethe, Forky will return.

>>150187529
Those were Apu’s kids right?

>>150178970
Sorry I don't like cuckolding jokes and Nicole / Richard's awful parents?

>>150169754
>that's called bad writing
you are not wrong :D

>>150188501
There's also Sideshow Bob's kid.

>>150179070
Even for a show with as little continuity as Spongebob has this always sticks out.

>>150169740 (OP)
I hate S5 onwards made the Wattersons really poor.

>>150188593
The parents in 80% of kid shows are terrible beings, that's the point.

>>150171733
Toon physics have been present since season 1. "normal kid without powers in a fantastical world that punishes him for existing, to a low tier reality warper" is based on what fits the current joke best, He can even be both in *the same episode*.

>>150189186
>is based on what fits the current joke best
And the current joke of the show is that his school friends don't matter because they exist to only make him shine.

>>150189227
>delusionmaxing

>>150189452
Would you like to briefly explain why?

>>150189227
Gumball deserved to get Adam Muto'd more than Finn did.

>>150190623
>Adam Muto'd
What the hell does that mean? I haven't watched AT in eons so I don't know what this Muto guy did.

>>150189186
That was slapstick. Gumball now actually has retarded powers that help him get out of situations.

>>150190645
Adam Muto is often credited by some fans for ruining Adventure Time when he became showrunner and what happened is that Finn became a cuck and secondary character in his own show while Princess Bubblegum and Marceline progressively became the main characters and a bunch of background literal whos would also get several episodes dedicated to them.

>>150190750
>Finn became a cuck
Oh god that arc. I think that's around when I stopped watching (if he's the one that did that Flame Princess wet dream one, whatever it was called).
I would hope Ben would never do something like that to Penny / Gumball. Their chemistry is great even if their relationship isn't perfect.

>>150190803
He didn't write the episode, but he was showrunner for the first time in the season that episode happened in and is credited under story, something he doesn't get credited under in every episode during his time as showrunner.

>>150190899
Also, I just noticed while checking ny research that I am aware of the fact he isn't credited under story in every episode in the seasons he was showrunner because the episode I landed on without him was Flute Spell, a Finn x Huntress Wizard episode. I audibly keked when I noticed that. This man's needless hatred for Finn is greater than Gumball's needless hatred for Alan ever was.

>>150190803
>Their chemistry is great
Only in the first two seasons. Now they are yet another pathetic obsessed loser/smug strong girl generic sitcom couple

>>150191217
It's ironic that Penny was actually more unique when she was just a girl next door archetype that loves the protag for being goofy dork instead of girlboss #100 of Gumball. It's even more ironic that Alan of all characters might be the only guy in a relationship who isn't pussy whipped.

>>150191217
>>150192458
Deer Penny is still the best
Fuck Ben
Funny that Fosters was brought up here because I'd argue Gumball equally has the same missed potential due to hack creator, if not a worse case of it

>>150192620
In a better timeline, deer Penny is canon. Sadly, we don't live there.

>>150192892
I wonder what stickypad is up to these days
I heard he still did art privately back in 2019 but it's been a fair bit
He's the one who conceived the idea originally

>>150193016
My memory is bad but I think deer Penny predated stickypad

>>150178244
Wait.. Were they lesbian?

>>150194695
No.
I read the interview and some of things said feels like it's meant to mislead people.

>>150171733
I miss season 1.

>>150195544
It wasn’t funny.

>>150192458
https://youtu.be/vanLcAKooHk?si=C0Crya4a-1gfnKM7
Where did the soul go?

>>150192620
In Craig's defense, he was able to improve his act somehow when he created "Wander over Yonder". Ben, on the other hand, seems incapable of creating anything other than more Gumball. Even his dream of creating something for older audiences ended up with nothing to show for it and - with Smiling Friends still around - there is no room for him to pull it off.

>>150176895
What do people think of the interview of Ben and how come he's fatter?

>>150196451
I wish gumball had a character as cool as Lord Hater.

>>150169740 (OP)
>Summer of 83. Also "The Line" has him being a OG fan of the Star Wars movies
You are assuming those dates match the real world counterparts. For all we know Star Wars in the world of Gumball could be a 00 movie.

>>150173417
>>150179070
Every episode, special, movie or video game after "Best Day Ever" is non-canon so Spongebob doesn't count.

>>150196612
>and how come he's fatter?
He's turning into Richard, lel.
But from the interview it becomes clear that this season wasn't some passion project that Ben grew increasingly fond of, but rather it was CN's execs who decided to dig up Gumball's corpse and pressed his creator to do CPR on it. Maybe this is why this season feels so underwhelming and mediocre? It's just more work assignments for them to go through in order to put food on the table.
But to end this on a positive note - at least Ben doesn't try to make TAWOG/TWWWOG seem like an era-defining, cutting edge piece of entertainment, much unlike his designated cockwarmer in these threads.

>>150197022
>But from the interview it becomes clear that this season wasn't some passion project that Ben grew increasingly fond of, but rather it was CN's execs who decided to dig up Gumball's corpse and pressed his creator to do CPR on it.
Why did it take so long then? Savino Dexter was 3 years after the Genndy run, 2 if you count Ego Trip.

>>150197059
Didn't Ben also say something to the effect of
>Want more Gumball beyond what we have? Clamour for it. Campaign for it
?

Gumball is more expensive to produce and, unlike back in the days of Savino's contract with CN, corporate suits aren't really that keen on making animated shows as their moneymakers. More than likely S7 only came about because there was a sustained demand for it that didn't go away within a year or two of S6 finale.

>>150179070
They aren't even consistent with the name, sometimes he's Neptune, sometimes he's Poseidon for seemingly no reason, even my nephew noticed this and was annoyed.

>>150197090
>Gumball is more expensive to produce and
Is it? They just reuse their 3D assets and don't do expensive shit like S2-like lighting/shading

>>150197022
>He's turning into Richard lel
Holy kek your right someone sent me this(pic rel) they told me they got it from Instagram from Ben's friend or something, bro really looks like a deadbeat dad christ almighty Ben you were so good looking and fit back in the day wtf happend with you?

>Ben looks like the average 4chan user
He's one of us anons!

>>150197535
I don’t have any actual proof but season 3 feels like the “we don’t have any actual money to do what we want” season and I think since then they readjusted to “what they needed to do to get by”.
Less impressive lighting. Less dynamic shots. Less action. Less Tina, the most expensive character to use. I’m convinced that Alan and Bobert are the most frequently used 3D characters because they just float and stand coldly respectively with the bonus of getting flanderized. A lot of episodes that feel like montages and clips, like The Dream in season 4, feels like because they don’t have the time to link scene to scene and are just haphazardly throwing things together on a loose theme.
Since then there’s an influx of new student characters and none of them are 3D. Keeping the blend of styles has become less of a priority as a result. A larger focus on Anais in season 4 of all times feels partly a concession of not being able to use the students they started with because again a lot of them are 3D and the cheap characters like Tobias and Sarah are used enough as is.
And I think that’s one of the reasons why Season 7 irritates me because they clearly have a bigger budget now but it’s focused on Gumball and Darwin to such a huge extreme. They grew comfortable from their limitations and now all they do is limit the world by having the student cast get possessed three, arguably four times, in one season. Their personalities hardly matter now because the writers have been beaten and conditioned to not care for them anymore.

OH MY FUCKING GOD........
Gumbros.....

>>150197712
It would be crazy if the Gumball cucking Penny memes stemmed from Ben actually swinging with men while supposedly being married.

>>150197682
>>150197712
Ben is a closeted faggot and is cheating from his wife?
Wait a minute its just like IN THE FUCKING SHOW OF GUMBALL KEKING PENNY HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>150173417
this is the worst

>>150197806
>Ben actually swinging with men
How deep does this rabbit hole go?
There already was an episode about Gumball and Darwin spying on Richard on suspicion of him cheating on Nicole - an investigation which had led them to discover that their dad is a transvestite who spends his free time hanging around with other crossdressing men.

>>150198011
Penny and Gumball.
>Rob
>Hotdog Guy
>Tobias
>Ocho
>Alan
Robinson's strained relationship.
Senicourt's even more strained relationship.
Richard's Crossdressing with men.
Gumball's Crossdressing.
Gumball being the woman if he were to get into a relationship with Darwin despite his protests.
Gumball kissing Darwin.
The Distance.
>The bit with the phonecall.
>The joke that makes it look like Darwin just swung with Joe and Tobias at the same time.
Jokes that state or imply that Nicole was dating other men while The Choices should have established otherwise.
Joke where Alan gets married to Leslie, with Alan being dragged away gleefully while Leslie leaves Banana Joe confused because Leslie implied that maybe he was into Joe.
>The Plan is an episode about the kids thinking Nicole is cheating on Richard I think. This is the most forgettable episode of season 2 for me so I can't recall.
>Nicole and Richard divorce jokes.

I think that's most of them.

>>150197710
But Tina had an episode in S7

>>150198415
Yes in the season with a budget.
That also ignores the majority of the kids.
Where two out of five kids used is because of their relationship with Gumball and Darwin.
Where Tobias used in both times, he is trying to fleece away their girlfriends.
And finally we have Molly and Tina I guess.

>>150198466
Clare is getting an upcoming episode at least.

>>150199043
>Rachel isn't coming back in any way, shape or form
>But her replacement is getting a new spotlight episode
Talk about twisting that knife.

>>150199043
That's cool but I wonder how much it will suck off Gumball.
Because Clare's last episode is literally her stating that she is saying goodbye to her world because she has to go back to Detroit, but then the ultimate joke of it all is that she is saying goodbye to her world despite staying in Elmore anyway because Gumball is assimilating her world into his.
Everything fucking feeds into fellating Gumball and I'm sick of it.

>>150199117
What makes Clare a replacement for Rachel other than they are both girls?

>>150199190
Her entire character is a parody of Claire Danes from " My So-Called Life". She's on the same level as characters like Goodfeathers or Blacula from Billy & Mandy.

>>150185383
Coincidentally, another Halloween example from another One Saturday Morning show. In Pepper Ann, the end of the season 2 episode, "A 'Tween Halloween", has Pepper Ann trick or treating with her schoolmates, but the season 1 episode, "Thankgiving Dad", opens on Halloween with Pepper Ann telling her father that she's too old for it. Like Teacher's Pet, this is supposed to take place over one school year.

>>150199230
Back when Rachel had a role to play, it was that of an older student with a group of peers separate from Gumball and his classmates, complete with her personal issues regarding them (or rather, their unwillingness to show up to her party).
That's basically what Claire Cooper is all about, key difference being that Ben doesn't hate her.

>>150199418
I would say the key difference is that Clare had a life to lose because she had friends while Rachel didn’t outside the circle that Gumball allows her to enter. I am basically guessing but Rachel had an entirely different direction just by being friends with Gumball on her own accord and if her character continued then she would have never matched up with Clare’s character for the episode to happen.
I think comparison between the two is incompatible because at the end of the day we have to hypothesize a character that barely mattered in her own episode vs a character that exists to reinforce what Gumball is as a show. Clare technically had her own episode as the “star” before Penny, that’s the importance of Clare’s narrative function when trying to resist Gumball and just accepting that she can’t win.
It’s all an admittance of improper character usage if you ask me so I’m not exactly fond of what I see but it’s how I see it at the end.

>>150199418
Promotional artwork,.

>>150197682
>>150197838
So that's why they get away with being horrible to their love interests.

>>150197022
>But from the interview it becomes clear that this season wasn't some passion project that Ben grew increasingly fond of, but rather it was CN's execs who decided to dig up Gumball's corpse and pressed his creator to do CPR on it.
The show ended on a cliffhanger and was supposed to have that movie, so he wasn't actually done with it, but it's still possible Mic Graves leaving made him less thrilled.

>>150200304
Mic Graves didn't return because CN screwed over Elliot from Earth.

>>150197710
I wonder why they don't try using Ocho and Carmen more then for variety and why they decided to cut Ocho from season 3. Neither are 3D animated except Ocho in a segment in the phone and having Carmen develop traits besides Alan's girlfriend would be nice to see.

>>150200341
Is that what he said? Because I know he did an interview lately and that he did talk about specifics regarding Gumball, but I never saw the whole thing so I don’t know the exact specifics.

>>150200375
No but it makes sense, why would you return to the company that fucked your project over, so you could work for another guy again?

>>150170428
didn't the fairly odd parents establish that timmy had frozen everyone's age for like 50 years?

>>150200365
Both had season 5 episodes: The Uncle and The Best.

>>150199835
>oval eyes
Fake as fuck

>>150200416
Yes but the reason why they don’t have episodes in 3, 4, or 6 is because?
That’s the issue, what was the logic of the writers?

>>150200416
That was after 3 seasons of no episodes focusing on them and they don't use Ocho otherwise that often even in background shots or classroom shots.

>>150188847
Season 2 had them near broke because 2002 Richard shelled out a bunch of money for a star
And season 1 arguably could be but it moreso just felt like they’re just living in 2006 even though it was 2011 when those episodes aired

>>150200747
Not every character will get spotlight episodes each season. Season 1 had a bunch of Mr. Robinson episodes, but they used less and less afterwards.

>>150200826
>Not every character will get spotlight episodes each season.
Yes, and that’s why /co/ generally dislikes the show.

>>150200856
That’s just assblasted Terifags. you never see Jukefags complain when he only had 1 episode in Season 2 and nothing else.

>>150200889
Jukefags don’t exist except for that one girl in South America that has a tattoo of him.
Maybe next time the writers should actually make an episode for Juke instead of making Peter, but turning the dials of time back isn’t possible so whatever.

>>150200889
>That’s just assblasted Terifags.
How cute of you to think that this criticism comes entirely from just a sparse handful of anons.

>>150200889
>That's just assblasted Terifags
No it's not. If you put in the effort to design a big cast like this, you should use them instead of repeating old plots like season 7.

>>150200984
>Maybe next time the writers should actually make an episode for Juke instead of making Peter, but turning the dials of time back isn’t possible so whatever.
They still reuse shit today, The Wrinkle is a ripoff of The Brain.

>>150200984
>>150201023
>>150201215
>Call out Terifags on their bullshit
>They come out of the woodwork to protest
Like clockwork.

Hi guys are we having fun yet because it looks like the thread is having a grand time

>>150201349
Oh great, another Terifag is summoned.

>>150201443
Actually I must admit that I’ve been here the entire time and that my previous post was me being a little mischievous

>>150174233
Say why you put these like this, keep the thread alive. I assume you like the School episodes the best?

>>150200535
they still used oval eyes on some model sheets at this point
pretty sure i remember a model sheet for a season 3-4 character with Gumball beside them for a size comparison and he was using oval eyes
>>150170428
>vicky being tootie's sister basically getting soft retconned with how it's never brought up after the season 5-6 hiatus
>season 9 revealing that sparky was actually apparently crocker's fairy dog too despite the secret origins episode from season 3 not having him present at all. he was also rewritten into being giant ass to cosmo and wanda even though he was originally arguably a sweet godkid than timmy himself

>>150200826
>Season 1 had a bunch of Mr. Robinson episodes
probably because the whole joke around them was basically a Squidward to Spongebob and Patrick thing with Gumball and Darwin being extremely naive and innocent, not realizing he hates them. It made sense for how cute and innocent they were, but it made less and less sense why they fawned over him after their new post season 1 characterizations were established especially with Gumball becoming more of a cynical jerk near the end

>>150201349
Teri warms my heart.

>>150202431
This pic sums it up >>150178959

>>150202431
So it's basically Simpsons in reverse - originally Homer's hatred of Ned Flanders stemmed from the fact that his neighbour managed to lead a much better life. But for some fucking reason writers have decided to turn Ned into a religious fundamentalist who keeps raising his children into brainwashed sissies unfit for adulthood - which in turn made Homer's hatred of him seem somewhat justified and killed comedic aspect of it.

Post some CN retcons, Billy and Mandy had a few.

>>150204078
>Billy and Mandy had a few
Such as? That show was extremely episodic

>>150203291
My point was moreso it made less and less sense why Gumball and Darwin dawned over him after season 1 when they became less naive and innocent and more aware and cynical, especially Gumball since he's like Bloo 2.0 by season 5-6.
Actually I think Gaylord was justified to dislike them even in season 1, as innocent and naive as they were, still annoyed the shit out of him

>>150204490
*fawned

>>150204421
Mandy smule early Season and nothing hapoened, then she became Satan and could destroy reality.

>>150183292
>Was this a poor attempt for the writers to discourage the fandom from shipping Lincoln and Lynn?
Is that what it is?

>>150204541
Pretty sure they meant a genuine smile, not like a malicious smirk or anything. Granted, I'll give you that Mandy is basically never seen with her lips curved upward again post-Grim and Evil seasons, but they were pretty isolated from the rest of the series to begin with

>>150201278
I'm not a Terifag

>>150201698
>Why you put these like these
I assume you mean the specific rankings or the format?
The format is because there isn't an official template on Tiermaker yet so I had to just type it all out in a Discord message.
If you're talking about my placements for the episodes, my favorites tend to be either the vignette episodes or the heartwarming ones where it explores the family's relationships. Or if it doesn't fall into one of those there just tends to be a lot of great chemistry or the slapstick / visual gags.
I'll make it easy and just post my highest rated episodes for the full series. Maybe you can find the common trend?

>>150202431
They still do a lot of Mr. Robinson episodes and they seem so out of place now because they dial back Gumball and Darwin more to their season 1 personalities for a few of them.

>>150207856
NTA but I think it’s funny that my taste is entirely different from what you like.
We have The Job as a common like and that’s pretty much it.

>>150208045
So which types of episodes do you like since you don't like the heartwarming / vignette ones? Do you have a handful of favorites? These are only my highest ones so there's still a chance I'll enjoy the ones you liked.

>there is a ""gumball"" thread on /trash/
Which one of you made it?

>>150207856
>the shell and the choices in S+ tier
These two episodes caused irreparable damage to the show and the fandom. Only a massive retcon or a reboot could fix it

>>150169740 (OP)
Is Gumball a bastard kid?

>>150208332
The Choices is a blatant Emmy bait attempt, the kind Family Guy churns out.

>>150170579
>she thought her and her family would be spared
Not remotely the first time that's happened in history, anon

>>150208332
The Shell is fine. It's just the decisions with Penny as a character after that were bad. Making her a girlboss and turning her relationship with Gumball into basically another Richard and Nicole sucked. No, the comparison in season 1 is not the same because it was showing Nicole didn't need to worry about Gumball as much as she was and should let him be himself.

>>150207856
Dude most of these episodes are terrible, The Cringe sucks.And you don't even The Sweaters, which is one of the funniest episodes.

>>150208332
>These two episodes caused irreparable damage to the show and the fandom
Explain why or I'm just going to assume you're rage baiting.

>>150208094
I have episodes like The Bumpkin right next to The Robot as some of my favorite episodes but I would say they are substantially different from each other in everything they do. I think the contrast between the two in how they handle their emotions captures the range of "sentimental" to" fucked up" I like seeing pretty well.
I like The Game and The Fridge so I definitely would say I like it when there's a competitive aspect with the family that drives things into Hell. I might be imagining it but I feel like it's mostly a missing aspect with them in later seasons. Either that or its largely diminished enough where it doesn't register to me anymore.
And I see The Words now and I do like that episode tons too. I love it when the boys bicker with each other and that's why I also love The Bet, The Flakers, and The Promise. Again that's another thing I feel is missing in later seasons, they lost their bite with each other so their moments of reconciliation means less to me now.
I'm actually a person that generally likes the dynamics between Penny and Gumball prior to and after The Shell. I'm fine with their early don't cross the line awkwardness and I'm fine with them beating the hell out of each other because I let cartoon antics triumph over most things. I actually really like The Amadain btw.
With that said I think The Ex is fucking hilarious, and overalI I like most Rob episodes. The nature of his existence being tied to the Void is something I find concerning for the overall "narrative" of the show despite the praise I can throw at him.
And I complained about The Others earlier in this thread because I think it has a meta nature that brings disastrous implications to the show, but the actual episode enjoyed as a stand-alone thing is fair enough. I can like an episode in one regard and dislike it for another, and generally that's my approach with the show even though at times I really can get annoyed with the show for things it does.

>>150209205
Neither of them is what Gumball as a show stood for, if you watched season 1 back in 2011, you would feel disgusted they made these tryhard "heartwarming" episodes. It's a comedy first and foremost.

>>150209226
I did watch early gumball. I think their first season is easily their worst one.
Plus you DO realize you can be a comedy and still make heartwarming episodes, right? They're not mutually exclusive. Why are you acting like a show has to be one or the other?

>>150209205
>you're rage baiting.
Fuck off back to xitter

>>150209286
>I can't explain my own opinions
Fixed your post. No need to thank me.

>>150209226
Gumball works because of the sincerity. If you want family guy, watch family guy

>>150209245
>Plus you DO realize you can be a comedy and still make heartwarming episodes, right?
Spongebob didn't do this, closest episode is Have you seen this Snail, but its still full of cheap gags and even the episode makes fun of how cheesy it is.

>>150209245
>I did watch early gumball. I think their first season is easily their worst one.
Kill yourself shitposter

>>150209294
This has been explained over and over for almost ten years, kiddo.

>>150169740 (OP)
>that one special where it was revealed that Timmy made a super secret wish that halted everyone from aging, a wish made 50 years ago
Bullshit.

>>150209299
Anon, gumball isn't sincere at all

>>150209302
Sweet Victory, Come Home Gary, and how about the Movie where they almost died

>>150209302
>one show didn't do this, therefore absolutely no comedy show should do it
Amazing argument.
>>150209307
The characters look different. The absolute horror. How will I ever live?

>>150209324
Band Geeks is a parody of underdog stories and is full of gags. They start out bad, but turns out great towards the end, much to Squidward's surprise.

>>150209226
>Worse than season 6
Your opinion is invalid

>>150207860
The Heart is the worst example since that was one of the last episodes of the original run.

>>150179070
>they are canonically different characters

>>150209205
Nta but
>the shell ruined penny and turned her and gumball into a generic sitcom couple
>the choices was emotional bait for normalfags that retconned four seasons of characterizations and flashbacks, introduced Nicole's parents as abusive assholes and made pretty much impossible to say "bad" things about Richard even when the implications of the episode makes him one of the worsts boyfriend/husband ever
and the worst thing is that the episode didn't feature actual time travel or magical visions of alternate timelines. It was just Nicole coping and imagining stupid shit. Also, go back.

>>150209336
Seethe, Gumball got worse.

>>150209307
I know it's said as a meme, but you can really see the soul leave as the years go on. Eyes get deader and their body shapes get more stilted.

>>150209307
>>150209444
He is just baiting for (you)s. Ignore him.

>>150209431
>the choices was emotional bait for normalfags
I can attest to that - when I first saw the compilation of the precious milestones of a life that Nicole shared with Richard, it tug at my heartstrings. But this episode was quite similar to "The Job" (aka Richard can't provide for his family, because otherwise whole Universe implodes) in that it completely fell apart when I tried thinking about it after credits rolled: writers really made it so that every other choice that Nicole could have made - and didn't include becoming Richard's tard wrangler - would have been for the worse. Nicole discovers this by going through each and every option she could have had in the past, with every answer stacking in Richard's favour - which is something that almost no one in real life can possibly pull off, as almost every living human has a laundry list of "stuff that would have made my life exponentially better if I did Y and Z instead of X". It's just retarded plot armour for a single cartoony NEET.

>>150171231
It didn't

>>150209580
>Nicole discovers this by going through each and every option she could have had in the past,
I love how the episode ignores the good men like Larry, Penny's dad or the construction man. Nicole just imagine her life with Tobias' father (the biggest jerk of the town) and Banana Joe's dad. Also, I find it funny how they didn't give her other kids.

>>150169845
>Richard was wearing a Nirvana shirt when Gumball was born in 2002, now that's 2015.
What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuck our culture has become so fucking stagnant

>>150169964
You gotta understand, Gumball fans are almost as autistic as Sonic ones

>>150209683
>Larry
This reminds me - Larry's earliest backstory (and the earliest reason behind him wageslaving across town) was that of Elmore's laziest NEET until he encountered Richard and, upon seeing what the latter has become, had decided to turn his life around. Nicole saw her husband out-NEET the biggest NEET and still thought that she really couldn't have found anyone better, ever.

>>150209431
>Wet pussy

>>150208164
Did it die?
I only see one catmom thread.

>>150210760
That is the one. That is why I said ""gumball"" thread.

>>150209457
That's what you get when execs keep resuscitating a franchise even though its formula had been already exhausted.

>>150197342
because Poseidon is a different guy

>>150209696
Maybe that’s why these Gumball threads feel like familiar territory to me. It’s like /sthg/ but toned down heavily.
Gumball threads aren’t as extreme and maybe that’s why I feel like I can out-autism everyone here. After dealing with Shadow autism and ENG vs JP script autism and Classic vs Modern autism vs Meta autism, well then nothing here feels like a hurdle.

>>150211741
>It’s like /sthg/ but toned down heavily
Aww, but I liked witnessing CHADvok spam.

>>150211796
CHADvok spam was legendary and /sthg/ has never reached such glorious heights again once he left. Maybe one of the few people in my life I've ever truly respected.
The fujo uprising and then the Pro-AI autism was eventually too much for me to handle and so I bailed. I returned briefly to then witness Amy cuck cage memes (which is already stacked upon the "assassinated character" memes) and I think then and there that I had my fill of never returning to the place again.

>>150211958
and so im never returning*
fuck my dumbass brain, english is the only language i fucking know so can i speak it properly for five minutes

>>150212064
Kys

>>150212974
no

Where did Gummypuss go?

>>150212974
Crazy how one paper bear can cause so much anger in some to resurface. That's not healthy to have so much vitriol in you, anon.

>>150213732
Why obsess over her of all characters?

>>150213775
Why not?

>>150213775
>Cutest teddy bear ever
>Fun and easy to draw
>You can have a Teri replica/figurine essentially for free whereas rest of Gumball franchise has barely any merch to speak of
>Tied quite well with pandemic reality
>Whenever she does get to act, she is a funny character
>Her design peaked in S2 and stayed consistently the same ever since, while Wattersons got their souls sucked out of them

Can the terifag for once just fuck off?
Would rather tolerate gumfag then this...

Uh oh

>>150214184
>Just casually browsing for medical gore on a library computer
Daww, what a rascal!

Name the 10 worst episodes.

>>150213971
What if you accidentally summon the gumfag and end up stuck with both instead?

>>150215198
In no particular order:
>"The Hero"
>"The Distance"
>"The Letter"
>"The Uncle"
>"The Best" - lol, irony
>"The Test"
>"The Job"
>"The Choices"
>"The Advice"
>"The Fan" - Sarah is a joke that stopped being funny before it even left the minds of showrunners

>>150215467
>The Job
Fuck off, that's one of the best ones and signified that the show would be kino and not kiddie slop.

>>150215198
The Potato is for sure my least favorite episode. The rest I won’t put into an order but here’s my other nine anyhow.
>The Potion
>The Ghouls
>The Boombox
>The Fuss
>The Slip
>The List
>The Cringe
>The Line

>>150215745
And The Loophole.
I can’t fucking count either.

>>150215617
>Look, we might be piss-poor, but your father needs to live out his life as a jobless leech because... uh... reality goes kaput and everyone dies!
Woah, so deep, so mature.

>>150215198
I have no clue if you're wanting to count season 7 so I'll just use 1-6
1. The Slip
2. The Transformation
3. The Picnic
4. The Party
5. The Signature
6. The Authority
7. The Spoon
8. The Vacation
9. The Date
10. The Knights
Most of these are because the episodes are boring. The others are because they focus on a character I hate.

>>150215809
Did you feel this way about this episode before or after the meta stuff sank in hard?

>>150215809
The climax and jokes are still top notch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_F5Zn7u6Dw

>>150215745
What's wrong with The Potato? And what did it do wrong than The Bumpkin, the other Idaho episode?

>>150215866
>The Party
Rachelfag

>>150215990
I hate Rachel. The question was the WORST episodes, not the best.
How would hating an episode revolving around Rachel make me a 'Rachelfag'? Wouldn't that be the exact opposite?

>>150216010
Because its autistic since she only appears at the beginning and end, and she gets her comeuppance?

>>150216220
And it's still a painful, unfunny, awkward episode.
And that only makes calling me a 'Rachelfag' more nonsensical.

>>150216293
No, any school episode involving all the students are kino.

>>150215912
I heavily disliked the focus of the characters in The Potato. The Bumpkin felt like an episode about Idaho and his simplicity while The Potato felt more like a Darwin episode. I swear Sarah has more lines than Idaho in The Potato and honestly what the fuck is she even doing here?!?
I already wasn't happy with this show at this point when season 5 was airing, but I saw the title and think "oh wow another Idaho episode!" and I end up with this almost uncontrollable seething rage when I finished the entire thing. The show was feeling dead to me at prior but at that point is when it fucking died for me.
Like this is the best they can do for the little guy? One episode in season 2 and all these years between just to get The Potato and he's barely a fucking character in it? I've been eternally butthurt since that day and I will never get over it. It is absolutely god damn personal and even nonsensical because I am probably the only person on this planet that felt that the show died because of The Potato. I don't even care to try to look at it with a neutral perspective or any different perspective in general, that's how much it upsets me.

>>150217016
Did you like the song at least?
https://youtu.be/6CzZ7fJn0tg?si=cc3DMBteIwT9gKMp

>>150217248
Nope. The episode in its entirety just does nothing for me.

>>150169754
>if i use a pretentious term, everything bad immediately becomes good and an artistic technique

>>150215467
>The Uncle and The Job
Oh, you thought he said first episodes like the best. Both always make me laugh every time I rewatch them and Goodbye is kino.

Do you think Gumball will ever permanently kill a recurring character? It's already pretty cynical.

Who cares? Gumball is an episodic series.

>>150169740 (OP)
Is there anything that proves the show can't take place in 2013?

>>150219124
Isn’t the bullshit in The Best based on 2014 to 2016 Tumblr SJW speak

>>150169740 (OP)
Dude who cares you're autistic watch something that isn't for toddlers

Velma and Shaggy romance being retconnected for lesbian shit

>>150219349
Yes but it's not like it's become less relevant. SJW speak has turned into an even worse tumor called woke speak, which has had the effect of creating an anti-cancer of people who oppose it except now that has become equally cancerous with how they call nearly everything that they can woke

>>150190672
Source: Dude Trust Me

>>150221230
This killed Mistery Inc. for me. Now Velma is dommed to be a lesbian