Thread 150176043

Enter the They/Them.

>>150176057
Shit quality?

>>150176057
>>150176072
Taken from a youtube leak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtiBD5uJL3I&t=137

>>150176103
>REMEMBER CHAOS CONTROL?
>REMEMBER WHEN SHADOW STOLE CHAOS EMERALDS?
I want to die.

>>150176135
>don't bring Nack back into continuity
>make a magic thief OC instead
Bring back the Archie continuity right now. I know Potto can do it, he just won't because he's stupid.

>>150176157
>Sonic gets the bad guy
>Shadow ruins it by meddling
This is so fucking awful.

>>150176179
IDW Shadow is canonically retarded

>>150176156
Fang got executed before Adventure 1

>>150176167
STOP! WRITING! SHADOW!
STOP! WRITING! SHADOW!
STOP! WRITING! SHADOW!
I WANT MY ARCHIE BACK I WANT IT BACK RIGHT NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>150176138
Good, die. You're overreacting like a fukken faggot.

>>150176184
WHY WOULD YOU EVEN DO THAT ROUGE

>>150176156
why are you still here

>>150176214
>I WANT MY ARCHIE BACK
But I'm enjoying having Actual Shadow instead of Archie Shadow or post-Heroes Shadow

>>150176234
I don't know. I just want to be despite knowing I have to go to bed for work in the morning.

>>150176219
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConflictBall

>>150176156
Fang’s relevance already got assfucked by Rouge and the Babylon Rogues if we’re being honest here. They’re treasure hunters to boot.

>>150176265
>wanting the thief to get away
This comic is pain.

>>150176157
Cute monke and Conductor with his wife.

>>150176284
I want that Wii U broken into a billion pieces and never reassembled.

>>150176269
>directly linking TV Tropes
Explains a lot about the inanity of IDW-haters

>>150176319
I found it easier than saying "this is so forced"

>>150176316
Last page.

>>150176333
Why even bother with this you could've just ended the comic at the previous page

>>150176316
So Lunar is a schizo? I had the feeling.

>>150176135
>Another mammal
Yawwwwwwwn

>>150176350
In fairness, Eggman's been kinda absent as an antagonist in IDW, despite being the only consistent one.

>>150176226
She thinks Tails is a twat I guess

>>150176316
>introduce OC
>don't establish a clear personality
>all we know is the artist saying they're trans on Twitter

>>150176226
Because she wants the emerald. Have you been reading the comic?

>>150176369
What is there a "minimum Eggman threshold" "mandate" now?

I say "mandate" because Potto is a pathological liar who never has to be burdened by any requirements from Sega, he just makes them up to excuse his terrible writing. KILL HIM! FUCKING KILL HIM!!!!!!!

>>150176316
>Character is they them because they're crazy.
Oh boy.

>>150176399
Of course not, it's just that "Eggman attacking" is used surprisingly little as a device. Hell, his most major role in the past 10 or so issues was letting Sonic play Kamen Rider then kidnapping a mob boss who's already lost everything.
Also technically this is written by Evan Stanley. The woman.

>>150176145
BOOBA

I believe that the French Revolution proved that the way to attain victory was to execute all officers who lost a battle.
The same principle should be applied to all media. Murder anyone who makes a bad comic or videogame.

>>150176436
>Also technically this is written by Evan Stanley.
A distinction without a difference.

It's downright criminal how boring and predictable these comics are. How any kid who's a Sonic fan would find these stories remotely interesting is beyond my comprehension.

>>150176476
Why would a kid buy a comic book?
>captcha:J020

Somehow this is all Tamers12345's fault

@150176517
I should probably wordfilter you.

>>150176517
its only a coincidence he made a transsexual schizo clown oc and now stanley made a transsexual schizo clown oc

>>150176316
>create a trans OC
>design them to be a royal clown with a personality disorder
Amazing how Stanley thinks virtue signalling is still going to work here. With a Sonic character, no less.

>>150176418
Any thing to back that up?

>>150176631
It's entirely possible that the entire basis of the character actually was that Jehtt video. Lunar even steals a Chaos Emerald in this issue.

>>150176316
>>150176364
>>150176418
>>150176631
A thought occurs. What if this isn't a split personality, but rather brainwashing? The FrankenStarline theory has been something everyone's been talking about since seeing that Chaos Emerald coffin last issue.

TLDR, can someone sum this up, because I'm just going to assume it's crap as usual.

>>150176712
Tranny clown steals Chaos Emerald, Shadow is Vegeta, Rouge loses to Tails because reasons.

>>150176712
New OC steals a chaos emerald. Shadow is once again written like garbage.
See >>150176484

>>150176135
Okay, I'm cool with this guy being part of the vampire arc.

>>150176728
The most interesting part of that was Rouge losing to Tails.

>>150176333
Not even bothering with a "rate it" this time huh.

Can't blame you.

>>150176712
Sonic & Tails go to fancy party to lure out someone who's been stealing Chaos Emeralds.
Rouge & Shadow are there too, since she was one of the robbed.
Thief crashes the party and makes off with the displayed Emerald.
Rouge sabotages Sonic & Tails since she wants the emerald for herself, and Shadow doesn't care for any interrogating until the emerald's secured. Fight/Chase ensues.
Sonic seemingly allows the thief to get away after stalling Shadow. Turns out he was never trying to catch the thief, but plant a tracking device to find the hideout.
They find said thief later that night - except the thief is confused and doesn't seem to know what's going on and gives the emerald up without a fight.
Cliffhanger of Eggman about to attack the town.

>>150176316
>>150176703
We already know it's going to be a vampire story coming up, and they do have hypnotism.

>>150176792
I'm on board with this ONLY if there are vampire BATS and Rouge is given hypnotism powers.

>>150176484
I'm surprised you haven't posted this on /vpol/ to rile them up.

>>150176791
So I was right, crap as usual.

What's even the point?

>>150176770
I wish OPs would stop saying "rate it". It's too engagement baity for me.

>>150176806
This IS /vpol/. Has been since /pol/ Harbor.

>>150176770
I'm not the usual guy. I just did it myself.

>>150176316
I still cant believe that IDW fans really thought that This OC would have the same personality as Jevil from deltarune.

>>150176236
But Shadow wasn't a dick to Sonic by the end of SA2.

>>150176843
Being an IDW fan in the first place exhibits a fatal lack of common sense and good taste.

>>150176843
What personality? Everyone turned on Jevil once Spamton came around and people realized there was nothing to Jevil except catchphrases.

>>150176845
Yeah because he was dead

>>150176870
He called Sonic the Ultimate Lifeform

>>150176747
Delusional pedo

>>150176833
We're on /co/

>>150176896
I'm aware.
Have you not seen how many threads there are here that are bitching about Alex Hirsch being a leftist or the lack of white male protagonists in modern cartoons?

>>150176554
>actually watching his pony shit
I seriously hope you don’t do this.

>>150176316
Consider also the possibility that this is some random bystander that Lunar knocked out and dressed up.

>>150176943
it gets lots of views and makes him lots of money so it must be good

>>150176804
>Rouge has actually had hypnotic eyes this whole time
>She's never been able to use them because no one looks her in the eye

>>150176138
Come on, that’s a natural call-back and basic continuity. You’re just bitching for the sake of bitching now.

>>150176970
I don't want ANY callbacks. I want the continuity nods to be for Archie.

>>150176804
>>150176969
thats too funny of a joke for idw to think of it

>>150176924
4chan has always been a right-wing website. Don’t like it go somewhere else.

>>150177001
Reddit doesn't tolerate death threats. If I said "chop off the heads of everyone who writes Sonic" there, I'd be banned.

>>150176845
And Knuckles alternates on whether he's a dick/rival to Sonic regardless of the era or the end of the previous game. What of it.

>>150176950
I don't feel IDW's capable of handling a Roderick Kingsley/Hobgoblin setup very well.

>>150176950
>Consider also the possibility that this is some random bystander that Lunar knocked out and dressed up.
Well she ruined the Surge and kit arc so i highly doubt that she will be able to do this and not fuck this arc up entirely.

>>150177137
>implying the hobgoblin mystery wasn’t a total fucking mess in itself

>>150177137
Marvel certainly wasn't

>>150177001
No it hasn't been election tourist

>>150177092
That this is not SA2 Shadow at all, and you'd be delusional to think so

>>150177228
You're the tourist. Old 4chan was constantly calling each other faggot and nigger or creating swastikas in Habbo Hotel.

>>150177092
The last game Knuckles was a rival in was Adventure. The fuck are you talking about?

>>150177233
I get it: this is /co/, so sometimes video games are gonna be outside of the wheelhouse of comics-only anons like yourself, but you really shouldn't be so confident when you're so clearly ignorant and haven't actually engaged with the source material.

>>150177326
This characterisation literally is not Shadow from SA2 at all. The moment Shadow actually remembers what Maria said he stops being a dick and is a pretty helpful guy who trusts other people. You are wrong and stupid and gay

Meh.

>>150176822
Engagement bait. Big idea, big execution, Sonic shows up, big explosions, "I hate that Hedgehog" rinse and repeat.

>new character is a total failure who only manages to get as far as he does because of Shadow holding the retard ball
>then the twist is that Tails and Sonic completely outplayed him from the start and he was never going to get away
Why are all the IDW original characters like this? It's not even just the villains. Tangle and Whisper needed Silver's help to kill Mimic. Rough, Tumble, Surge, and Kit are all ineffectual Team Rocket-like jobbers. Lanolin has done nothing but simp for Mimic. Jewel and Clutch are boring powerless normies. Starline had the best showing and even he was a pretentious pseudo intellectual who gets completely demolished the second he tries to surpass Eggman. Why would anyone care about these new characters when the story is constantly putting them down? Do the writers have a humiliation fetish?

>>150176316
>If it's a trap, it's a weird one.
>trap
Nobody uses that terminology for crossdressing twinks anymore, Tails.

>>150176792
>We already know it's going to be a vampire story coming up
We do?

>>150177307
Yeah so did every liberal back then. We were proud atheists

Do you guys like anything about this comic?

>>150176145
>Shadow & Rouge are competing with Sonic for an emerald
Good.
>>150176157
>Sonic takes up the challenge
Very good.
>>150176184
kek, love it

>>150176333
10/10 issue, I was genuinely in the belief it'd be another girly issue with it being PINK PINK PINK and at a dressup ball but I'm glad the characters are acting like they're supposed to and having fun with almost every page being meaningful and well drawn.
I'd deduct points for the secret plan we're only told about after we're confused why Sonic wanted him to get away but we immediately follow up on it with two conclusive pages, so who cares.

The comics should not have been canon holy shit

>>150177594
It's the OC Conundrum.
They either make them so effective everyone calls them a Mary-Sue OC, or make them painfully lame just so they can shift blame onto Sega, with some mandate they can pull out of their ass. No middle ground.

And considering they live for Twitter/Tumblr praise, the latter is the best option.

>>150177663
Uh.....
Surge's design is pretty good I guess. That's about it really...

>>150177663
It's hard proof that Sega and gamefags don't know what makes for a good comic and should shut the hell up and leave us alone.

>>150177702
Game purists rightfully despise IDW.

>>150176792
>>150176734
What's this about vampires?
Is it true, confirmed by the creatives? Or just random speculation that went out of control on social media?

>>150177717
Not when it started seven years ago. They thought the comics being "canon compliant" was a good thing. As fucking if the Sonic games ever had a coherent chronology in the first place.

>>150177723
There was a coffin with a bunch of chaos emeralds in it in one page. I doubt it's going to lead to anything though, I have zero faith in the writers after all the other botched storylines.

>>150176269
>unironically linking tvtropes
>the page starts by namedropping the """Lancer""" role
>article is so busy trying to jam as many references to other tvtropes articles as possible it forgets it's explaining a trope
Was that website ever good?
Who even "coined" the conflict ball? You need to explain so much to get the logic across... oh uh it's a uh... conflict happens... and characters uh... are invested because... well imagine a ball... and uh... the author has it... and threw it to the uh... character... and now he/she's acting really silly... um... so when multiple characters are acting silly... that's called uh... apple of discord... but also idiot ball... which is like conflict ball but for idiots... and uh... what if we just called the literary trope a "Race for the macguffin", how about you get us the tvtropes page for that one because this is just characters with competing interests, anon, it's normal writing and not shitty writing.

>>150177753
>There was a coffin with a bunch of chaos emeralds in it in one page
That is the reason? I remember the page, but vampires never crossed my mind.
Even if is indeed a magical/mythical thingy, there are other options, even mummies could be a possibility.

>>150177765
>Was that website ever good?
I would argue that yes, it was.
However, the same that happened with Wikipedia eventually happened to it.

>>150176316
Im sure starline is gonna be the main antagonist in the end with his Frankenstein design.

>Every post about shadow jobbing
>when rouge was the one defeated by tails.
I don't get you guys sometimes.

>>150177745
Having a more on-brand comic isn't inherently a bad thing. Personally, I loved Archie's batshit insanity, but it wasn't for everyone especially when you have to sift through one hundred issues of crap to appreciate the good stories. Ian just royally fucked up the execution. Everyone is out of character and nothing ever happens. It's too deviant for purists and too corporate for comic fans. It appeals to no one but the most hardcore fanboys.

>>150177840
>It appeals to no one but the most hardcore fanboys of the writers/artists.*
fify

>>150177828
Rouge is less out of character. Shadow went full retard.

>>150177745
outside of shit like Shadow in Sonic Battle and whatever Silver's deal is post 06, the timeline of the main games is pretty damn straightforward.
People turned on idw when it turn out they're really just trying to be archie again without having any archie in it.

>>150176145
"get em" is plural
surely he meant "get him", right?

>>150177900
>Shadow in Sonic Battle
NTA, but it was confirmed (or you could say "officialized", depending on your previous stand) that timeline-wise, Sonic Battle happens after Shadow the Game, so even that plothole was finally filled.

>>150177914
Politically correct language is my guess, you "can't" assume the character's gender.

>>150176302
why HE
what HIS
if HE
you don't speak like this for a singular person, even if you don't know what their "gender" is you just assume male

>>150176201
Oh come on that's not f>>150176202

Okay, you are correct. Retardo maximus. Rouge is also being retarded.

>>150177971
Sonic is a woke transman, chud. he doesn't assume other people's genders.

>>150176333
So is sequin the same as spaghettionia? Doesn't Shantae live in sequinland.

>>150177914
em can also be HIM. Good fuck have any of you ever actually had a conversation outside the internet?

>>150176484
Lunar is not trans, it is a cybernetic memetic AI entity that possesses people through those masks.

It is a big joke on the transformation community. Their affirmation character is actually a chat bot tied to a fashion accessory.

>>150176517
Lunar reminds me of niroas a bit.

>>150178035
No it's not you brainlet. Em is a shortening of thEM. Get IM is a shortening of get hIM.
Don't make your smoothbrain our problem

>>150177745
Not to mention we are never gonna move past being in forces aftermath. We will never get to see sage mock her shitty retarded half sister

>>150178060
Sage is appearing in the next few issues.

>>150178069
not him, but i assume the comic will still be in empty forces oc mode, just with Sage slotted in now

>>150178069
Wait really?

>>150177890
>Shadow went full retard.

Yeah, IDW Shadow does that a lot.

>>150176712
The emeralds have been disappearing. Sonic and Tails attend a party where the last known emerald will be displayed. Rouge and Shadow also attend but they are interested for less moral reasons and Shadow is being particularly psychotic today.

Think ferret jester steals the emerald. Rouge and Shadow decide to be assholes and attack Sonic and Tails because Rouge wants the shiny and Shadow wants to fucking murder someone. This creates an opening for the twink to escape but Sonic put a tracker on him. After tracking them down they discover the twink has no recollection of stealing the emerald and is handing it over.

Meanwhile! Eggman is marching an army of egg bots to the city to fuck shit up and take the emeralds.

No Sonic comic series will ever top Archie's. That is a cold hard fact. Only troons, and faggots disagree.

Archie is the worst comic series Sonic ever produced. This is a cold hard fact. Only cucks, and manbabies disagree.

>>150178149
That's because Sonic comics as a rule are not good.

>>150178079
They had a whole marketing campaign about it.
https://x.com/TailsChannel/status/1948043556977021331

>>150178075
According to Evan Stanley, they'll be timeskipping to post-Frontiers in #84.

>>150178168
yeah i know it's a timeskip, i just mean in terms of setting/writing. I doubt anything will change, they'll still be in these vague furry towns where they can slot in a million of their twitter friend's ocs

>>150178149
>>150178162
You won't believe it, but both of you are right.

>>150178162
Shame it's opposite day completely localised on your post

>>150178162
True
>>150178149
False

>>150178162
The br*t*sh series exists

>>150178208
the british series had good art, and good writing
the mutt series had cuckoldry, politics and soapopera

>>150178110
Don't shadow and/or rogue work for g.u.n.

>>150178212
>Good art
>Good writing
Kek

>Pic related: Everyone involved in this story
>>150177663
>>150177702
I like a lot of the OCs introduced. Tangle & Whisper are fine and haven't been nearly as obnoxious in stealing the spotlight as many here would claim. The Bad Guys mini actually made Zavok kind of cool in making him more than just a nigga that wants to fuck shit up. The problem with the writing is that characters aren't allowed to develop and always reset back to their worst stupid selves because of status quo. I challenge you to find multiple examples of Shadow not acting like a retard and actively choosing to work with Sonic rather than against him. You can't. And whether that's Sega's fault, or Flynn's doesn't matter. Believe me. I want to like the IDW continuity. I want to enjoy fun adventures with Sonic and his friends, but they make it so fucking hard with how soulless and formulaic a lot of the smaller plots involving major characters tend to be.

At least the camping story had wholesome moments with Amy and the girls, but other than that everything has just been so fucking dumb.

>>150178223
Sonic and tails came out of this issue pretty alright.

>>150178220
>no argument
>you haven't read it
thanks for admitting it tho

>>150178215
No, Ian, they don't.

>>150178241
Shadow doesn't, but Rouge does. At least after SA2

>>150178234
That looks like shit. Penders current art is better

>>150178257
I'd say you have no taste, but considering you consoom archie cuck slop that was already obvious

>>150178212
>politics
Robotnik is a fascist. That made bong sonic political by default you dumbass.

>soapopera
So nobody cared when Johnny died. Got it.

>>150178257
>Penders current art is better
>current art

>>150178252
I always felt Rouge, like Shadow, is closer to a mercenary for hire. They take on jobs for GUN, but they are not part of their public payroll.

Though, it seems Shadow doesn't even get paid, and just do stuff because he is asked, kek.

Welp Tailscel is here with his cuckoldry and scat obsession. Thead's over. See you next time everyone.

>>150178229
They're usually the only ones who ever make it out 'alright'. Everyone else gets hit with the retard stick official or OC alike. Even fucking Silver and Whisper with their idiotic attempt at trying to capture Mimic weren't immune.

>>150178291
wah wah. pick fights get hit, archiefag. don't come in here shitting your diapee for archie if you don't want people to insult it for what it was

>>150178208
Only contrarian centrists give a shit about Fleetway.

>>150178323
or people that actually read it
most american sonicfags haven't because they can't read

>>150178314
>didn’t deny his incel status or his scat obsession

>>150178323
Fleetway’s main fanbase is a bunch of gen-z children who want to see Britbong Super Sonic fight Sonic.exe in a Friday night funkin rap battle.

>>150178208
>>150178220
Fuck you nigger, Fleetway was kino. Pure mile-a-minute comic insanity.

>>150178333
>most american sonicfags haven't because Fleetway is dead and forgotten

FTFY

>>150178399
>implying "dead and forgotten" is a bad thing in our modern era of endless shitty sequels and reboots
FAAAAAAAAAAG

You could pick a random page from a random Fleetway story, and they'd put more effort into the coloring than a whole arc of IDW or Archie

>>150178425
kek, i do like the look of this guy

>>150176219
>>150176747
This was pretty cute

and Tails x Rouge comic requests?

>>150176219
>>150176747
This was pretty cute

any Tails x Rouge comic requests?

>>150178223
Hit the nail on the head, especially with Shadow, I just don't get WHY he's antagonistic? Even fucking Vegeta, who Sega is clearly trying to emulate, would voice his opinions but would still work with Goku.

>>150178425
There's a good chance you'd get a page drawn by that one shitty Fleetway artist that draws everyone like cardboard cutouts.

>>150178573
rouge getting caught by a boobytrap tails set up in his workshop

>>150178573
>>150178642
>they showed up
Figures. So much for the thread to be on topic.

>>150176290
can you not be a retard, I don't want to have to defend this comic
the literal next page shows they placed a tracker on the thief, they're not wanting him to get away, they're wanting to make sure he can escape shadow while they track him at a better opportunity

>>150178208
the only one that tried to actually be a good kids adventure comic as opposed to shitty soap opera (kirby flavor) or shitty soap opera (claremont flavor)?

>>150178573
This page >>150176145 but Rouge realises that she's not wearing anything under the dress, and Tails is embarrassed

>>150176043 (OP)
This issue has confirmed my fears that Rouge has been demoted to be nothing except the Tails to Shadow's Sonic.

>>150176043 (OP)
why is ant size?

>>150179041
see >>150176084

>>150178425
I never got into Fleetway cause the characters never looked like actual Sonic characters or even an attempt to match the look.

>>150178573
I love Rouge's tits so much it's unreal

>>150179213
Same!
https://co.llection.pics/post/view/134893

>>150179213
all love Rouge' tits...aside the paladins of censorpship.

>>150176084
That dress is absolutely terrible.

>>150179658
it'd look good on another character, but with Rouge it goes down to her ankles and doesn't show any leg

>>150176316
Lunar's the mask itself, calling it.

Anyway, good issue. Conflict's a little forced but it was fun. The coloring was REALLY bad though, holy fuck.

>>150179674
No, I mean the way its drawn and the colors used are really bad. A layered, ruffled dress is fine, but that one is just awful.

>>150178200
>they'll still be in these vague furry towns
thats what sonic has been for the last 11 years.

>>150176145
AND THE HEDGEHOG IN BLACK SAID "EVERYONE MOVE BACK" AND IT TURNED INTO A BALLROOM BLITZ

>>150179201
The game characters do look like they belong in Sonic, otherwise everyone else look off for some reason
only a few OCs pulled it off, such as Zachary and Blockhead Bill. Shortfuse was 50/50

>>150176316
Looked more interesting with the mask on

>>150176316
Nice gigantic boner in the middle panel.

>Insane troon
Can't make this shit up. Anyway, how many actual schizos do we even have in Sonic?
>Eggman
>Metal
>Now this unidentified blob of flesh

hate to spoil it for everyone, but the plot is:
>Starline is back from the dead (it was his original concept to be a Frankenstein monster, plus the vampire coffin)
>hypnotised this nonbinary genderxir to collect the last emerald (he stole the other one from Tails' lab like he tried to do in Impostor Syndrome)
>?
>that's it.
Don't expect this vampire guy to be anyone except starline. Evan tried this same "vague hints" thing before in the Chao Racing story and it was just Starline again, they don't introduce OCs this way just preexisting villains so only Starline or Mimic

>>150176316
One of the acrobats got hypnotized by Starline and the writers are just yanking the readers by saying this is a new main stay characters, when its just a one-and-done background oc.

/sthg/ is going to write essays how this character is badly established as villain regardless.

>>150179554
Countless fuzzy tatas all around and yet you go for the greasy pigskin. Like rubbing a dead komodo dragon.

>>150179784
Wait, is the character really trans? Or just twitter jumping conclusions with the likes of Evan playing along for the free brownie points

>>150176476
Kids don't even know where to find this comic. It's a tepid comic created by toothless oldfags intended for oldfags with no expectations or standards. But officially they have to pretend it's for a bunch of kids who probably don't even know about their nearest comic shop.

>>150179932
Everyone thought it's some kind of tranny because...well, look at it. And it's obvious they're trying not to make it look like a boy or girl.
So someone asked Evan for Xir's pronouns and Evan said it's neither a Boy nor a Girl he just goes by They/Them/Lunar. I believe twitter troons would call that "nonbinary"

>>150179948
*also obvious in this issue where everyone somehow magically knows only to only call it "they/them/their"

>>150179941
Sonic has fans of the newer generations. As we all know, Sonic never loses fans to anything but death.

>>150177594
There must be some stipulation that OCs have to prop up game characters to a certain degree to justify existing.

>>150179941
>Muh oldfags
Sorry but only kiddies and newfags care about IDW, their mischaracterization of pre-established characters + OCs

>>150179948
>>150179958
The "they/them" can be explained with the characters not knowing the acrobat's gender.
But everything else you describe just sounds exactly as the classic
>"Twitter says character is *insert alphabet people name*, author plays along"
Even if the character does not have a clear gender on first sight.

Now, don't think I'm saying Evan wouldn't create such a character from the get go, but this one in particular feels to me like it will become one due to "popular" demand, rather then being planned as such from the get go.

>>150177828
Rouge really doesn't have a particular expectancy to be more capable than Tails. Tails is observably more intelligent and outside of Sonic Heroes and like... Sonic Prime, he can usually fly a lot better than her too.

>>150179998
nah it totally was, man. You can just tell on these things, the design is the most twitter tranny thing i've ever seen

>>150180020
*plus wouldn't be the first or even 2nd or 3rd time Evan's inserted tranny characters into IDW
he first IDW story (Chao Races) she put ThanksKenPenders' tranny OC as the judge

>>150179982
There are no kids reading this comic.>>150179959
K

>>150179959
Kids like Sonic. They know him through shit like the movies and Roblox.
Kids don't read floppies.

>>150180020
>>150180024
I don't consider myself an expert on that, so I'll take your word on it.

I do think Tangle and Whisper are a case of characters that became lesbians due to peer "pressure" (in quotation marks, because even if not planned, they obviously loved the idea the moment they knew it)
But correct me if I'm wrong.

>>150180041
Any interaction with the fanbase online will at least bring them into contact with the IDW characters because people are always posting the lesbians. And maybe Sally; people just seem to know Sally without reading the comics or watching SATAM.

>>150176219
>>150176202
>>150176265
Why does Rouge always job in this comic. Why the fuck does Ian hate Shadow so much and makes him an Knuckles based moron compared to Sonic? Someone fire his hack ass!

>>150180048
I only agree because it really felt like they were intended for totally separate roles. Essentially a parallel adventurer to Sonic, and their personal take on the Sonic Forces player character. And saddling them together pretty much stops either from excelling at their intended purposes.
Not anti lesbian shipping, it just feels like these characters just keep each other shackled.

>>150180082
Wasn't this written by Evan? Not that your Flint rant was wrong, though.

>>150180059
Your not wrong, but your kinda proving in my point. They can know and even like Whisper/Surge etc. without even reading this comic. Just like Sally has a lot of exposure even though her actual source media is super niche now.

>>150177594
Ian writes Sonic with mary sue plot relevance more than the game. It pisses me off.

>>150177001
>He fell for the 4chan's an epic political site meme

>>150178573
>>150178642
Shadouge > Tailouge

>>150177663
I like Belle.

>>150180048
Tangle and Whisper are just the female Sonic and Tails. If that makes them lesbian then Sonic and Tails are gay.

>>150177663
I stopped reading after issue 50, but I liked some parts and didn't care at all about anything else. Archie took 160 issue to get good so I'm fine with them cooking until I'm 50.

>>150180099
I feel both Flynn and Stanley give Shadow less credit as a competent character because they're sonic dick riders before Shadow fans. Shadow is just a prop and jobber to justify Sonic being top dog.

>>150180130
Don't engage.
Don't give them reasons to play the victim.

>>150180130
If your a woman maybe

>>150180171
weren't you already whining before? >>150178690

swear you just meltdown at the sight of them, every thread

>>150180141
>Sonic and Tails are gay
Yes

>>150180187
>Unlike Sonic I don't fuckle
>I'd rather stretch my butthole

>>150180178
>whining
>meltdown
I'm curious if you are the same anon I replied to, or the other party. It is hard to tell at this point.

>>150176418
Surprisingly based!
Even they can't fight reality.
Heh. They.

Starting to notice a pattern that retards tend to scream when a character dares to not win all the time or even show real flaws instead of superficial ones. They need to be boringly perfect always and be a total sue when. Like COUGHsh*dowfansCOUGH

>>150180181
Why is Silver this weird orbiter in this comic?

>>150180222
I can't tell if you're whining about people not liking the incompetent OCs or whining that Shadow fans don't like Shadow being a loser.

>>150179948
>Everyone thought it's some kind of tranny because...well, look at it. And it's obvious they're trying not to make it look like a boy or girl.
I dunno, looks pretty boyish to me. A wimpy boy, sure. But the design is not particularly feminine.
I'm just gonna go with a shota.

>>150180177
All sonic shes are effeminate. Not a single masculine thing that shippabke about any guy with the girls since the guys are more flamboyant than the ladies.

>>150180324
>A wimpy boy
Who do you think are their favourite targets to turn into trans or twinks

Since the IDW's Sonic has gone down the shitter, I have a lot of spare cash I was going to use to buy the hardcover collections.

Any alternate omnibus recommendations, guys?

I refuse to believe any mandates are real when this comic continues to make the character with the most marketing momentum of recent look like a jackass for the sake of it.
I don't even care for Shadow, this just feels like it's in direct opposition to what every other piece of Sonic media is doing.

>>150180222
Shadow doesn't need to be written like Knuckles and be played at Sonixs expense as a lesser and more competant person, but that's where we're at now Shadow some how has to be expressed as the less hedgehog and is dumber and more reckless than Sonic when earlier it was Sonic who played this role to Shadow being less smarter and somehow less capable than him in terms of fighting and speed.

>>150180222
Shadow doesn't need to be written like Knuckles and be played at Sonixs expense as a lesser competant person, but that's where we're at now Shadow some how has to be expressed as the less hedgehog and is dumber and more reckless than Sonic when earlier it was Sonic who played this role to Shadow being less smarter and somehow less capable than him in terms of fighting and speed.

>>150180222
It's kinda weird. Batman gets his ass beat all the time and people don't mind. It would be stupid for Shadow to win considering he's not that strong or fast.

>>150180350
The so called "mandates" are just directives that any IP-derived work has. Back in the 90s, they were more or less enforced depending on the company, but they all have them.

At some point Ian and company flgured the best way to dodge criticism was to shift blame into the mandates, in other words, Sega, because their work was not being good enough.

>>150180364
Batman always wins ridiculously to balance it out and Shados has been portrayed as stronger/more powerful than everyone so far thanks to the various media

>>150180364
>Batman gets his ass beat all the time and people don't mind

>>150180376
He needs rocket boots to keep up with sonic, his strength is clearly not on par with knuckles and his chaos shit can't hold a candle to silver's telekinesis. He can go super, but outside of that he's kind of outdone in every area.

>>150180392
NTA, but to be fair, this particular scene was the culmination of various issues carried out by years, whose boiling point was Batman's death.

>>150180394
Yeah ignoring the latest game which i didn't play, Shadow's entire thing is being on par with Sonic for strength (and maybe a little stronger uninhibited) but also having immortality/regen

>>150180394
There's no bootless variant of Shadow so I don't really see why that's a point of contention.

>>150178212
STC had exactly one good artist, Richard Elson, and he sucked at emoting anything other than anger and pain.

>>150180394
>He needs rocket boots to keep up with sonic

They are air shoes powered by his own chaos energy

>ic, his strength is clearly not on par with knuckles

Not according to the movie, hes the only one capable of standing equally to him in a slug fest.

>chaos shit can't hold a candle to silver's telekinesis.

Did we play the same game, Shadow shit on silvers psychic powers with one emerald and has beaten him without one

>He can go super, but outside of that he's kind of outdone in every area.

He can use his inhibitor release to outstat everyone in base. If he keeps his doom powers he'd be more a monstrous combat freak. Alot of character don't treat him lightly especially Sonic, Tails, Silver, and Knuckles by their own words

>>150180466
And Omega who says is the only one who he thinks is worthy to challenge and is faster/better than Sonic. Omega words = word of god.

>>150180394
>chaos shit can't hold a candle to silver's telekinesis
Nigga what?
06, the only real game to give Silver a serious narrative role (besides Rivals, which didn't even make it back to Japan), goes out of its way to show Silver's too much of a rookie to close the gap between himself and Sonic or Shadow, even with telekinesis. That's WITHOUT either of them using Chaos abilities.

>>150180466
That thing about "powered by his own chaos energy" is headcanon,
Wave says in Crossworlds they're just old Skate Gear, a type of Extreme Gear. Tails makes his own for fun in Sonic Channel

>>150180532
*hell now that i remember you can also buy skate gear for the others to race in too, in Riders

So... honest thoughts on Lunar so far?

>>150180466
>and has beaten him without one
never

>>150180532
Nah theyre not the same. Wave is a rage baiting bitch that was shot down by eggman and tails as inferior tech genius. Nothing she says is credible. Shadows air shoes are still more advanced than anything gear skates do which need external source to work.

*Sega Recent Games censor Rouge's anatomy and personality

Some of the Sonic IDW artist: Don't worry guys, I got this.

>>150180550
Just feels like a shallow Nights homage to me.

>>150180557
If Sonic can beat him without one so can Shadow and scale wise about the same level during generations.

>>150180578
There's a visible power struggle in this issue alone. The first shot of her dress makes her look boobless, then each proceeding frame gives her more and more cleavage and defined boobage.

>>150180577
they are the same.
Hell Shadow literally swaps out his regular shoes for new Skate Gear in Riders that work literally the exact same, that's his default. They don't need external sources either, if you play the game you see they function exactly the same

>>150180601
shhh, the shadowcuck can't play the games or read.

>>150180550
I feel like I’m looking at a tumor that is going to progress into some really nasty cancer very soon. Throwing even the smallest crumb to the transgender community is a horrible move and will blow up in everyone’s face.

>>150180577
eggman and tails both said she knows more about extreme gear than them. eggman even offered her a job. Don't cry just because you self insert as Shadow, christ

>>150180394
Silvers telekinesis doesn't even help him enough to beat Sonic.

>>150180601
>>150180610
>>150180629
Agree to disagree, Shadows airshow don't function the same because they can maintain infinite momentum on any surface and act like Sonics shoes when applied on any surface. Extreme gear is limited compared to what Shadow can do.

>>150180601
>Hell Shadow literally swaps out his regular shoes for new Skate Gear in Riders that work literally the exact same
they literally don't extreme gear runs on air and have to be refueled when they run out.

>>150176124
That one girl looks like Breezie.

>>150180618
The bright side is that, for all their talk of inclusivity and rainbow filters in their logos, Sega usually don't apply said believes into their IPs.

Most progressive shit in Sonic lies in Xitter/Tumblr/Reddit's headcanons, only validated by Evan, Ian or others.

>>150180601
>Skate Gear in Riders that work literally the exact same,
>>150180610
>shhh, the shadowcuck can't play the games or read
Why lie?

>>150176246
>You should be more concerned about your position
fujobaiting

>>150180679
Act like Sonic's shoes as in???
The Extreme Gear are faster than Sonic and Shadow. Shadow's Skate Gear are described as Air Skates, same as the regular ones. They also have additional powers like air boosting/air dashing. They do all the same things as Shadow's old shoes and more, that's why he needed to upgrade to them to compete.

Shadow's skates, which that he holds very dear, is just something that anybody could literally buy now and work just as good or even better with the leap in advancements is fucking hilarious.

>simple, sonic adventure focused mostly on game chars with OC not shoved in face and part of eggman grand plan
>its hated


Just admit fags you want Archie drama and game only was mistake.

>>150180698
You refuel on air to do Air Boosts/Air Slides. They still run without it, you fuel on air for additional powers

>>150180550
It's weird that they are trying to treat this character as some sort of progressive benchmark when their clearly based on Nights who was "non-binary" before it was cool.
Also they weren't a schizo antagonist.

>>150180746
When has that not been what we're asking for?

>>150176950
That was my immediate thought, the fact they take off the mask immediately makes that feel like the case

>>150180732
How am I lying? Play the first ever Riders game, it's the default, they just switched out his normal running animation and called it "Skate Shoes"

>>150180740
I wonder what the Japanese version says.
NTA, just in case, it's just that Sonic's translations tend to be a little off.

>>150178946
We knew that going back to sonic heroes. The step away from 2deep4u game stories confirmed it.

>>150180746
>>simple, sonic adventure focused mostly on game chars with OC not shoved in face

>>150180774
They aren't air powered and you know it.

>>150180746
>OC not shoved in face
But Shadow is there doing that ;)

>>150180743
>>150180740
>They're(extreme sir skate) lesser than Shadow air seats because they make him as fast as the fastest thing alive and have infinite energy.

Shadow > Chicken tech

>>150180801
Which aren't? Shadow's air shoes, which have air in the name. Or the Extreme Gear Air Shoes, which only use Air for additional powers which Shadow's normal air shoes don't have, and otherwise run without it?

>>150180755
Because NiGHTS is a true androgynous character that back in the day, most people still called a "He", or an "It" at most, because NiGHTS not being male or female was just a detail and not its entire character.
Now it is just pure pandering, or rather, self-indulgence.

>>150180807
Are you having a stroke because I triggered you so hard? That sentence is unintelligible.

That manual says Extreme Gear are fastER than Sonic/Shadow, btw

>>150180629
Yet they view Shadow far above her as a racer and with higher expectations using his skates than herself and Jet

>>150180821
No, not really, they don't.

You just got exposed as lying/knowing nothing about the games and now you're writing fanfic about them to adjust. How sad.

>>150180809
Have you not played Riders? When you run out of air, you're fucked. It's not for "additional powers", it's for basic functionality.

>>150180807
>They're(extreme sir skate) lesser than Shadow air seats because they make him as fast as the fastest thing alive and have infinite energy
is this even English?

>>150180818
That manual is fuck dogshit like your argument. Stay over there.

>>150177783
>even mummies could be a possibility
No, then it would have been a sarcophagus. Really, there are only so many things a coffin of that style could be.

>>150180837
Depends which game you're playing. They either swap-out for onfoot, or they stay on the boards and the boards keep working without (Free Riders). The air is needed for special actions/tricks

>>150180860
you mean fuckING.
And over where? What are you talking about? lol i'll stay here in the USA and you stay there in India, Saar
>Shadowcuck now crying at the canon game manual for btfoing him

>>150180873
Okay well honestly I never played freeriders.
But the first two games make it look like the gear literally stops functioning without a regular supply of air.

>>150180830
>>150180847
Cope and Seethe

>>150180901
It still works, but you'll need air to go at the full speed across the course. Otherwise you're just cruising

I think we can all agree that Jet is better than that black loser.

>>150180904
>>150180921
>twitter filenames
I advise you go back there, Saaar

>>150180807
>They're(extreme sir skate) lesser than Shadow air seats because they make him as fast as the fastest thing alive and have infinite energy

>>150180707
Metal is so lucky

>>150180940
That's not particularly common sentiment, no.

>>150180940
of course

unironically if IDW asked to use NiGHTS could they?

>>150180990
Jet is certified /ourguy/

>>150180940
>>150180945
>>150180990
>>150181006
No still cope

>>150180993
Probably, if they followed certain guidelines.
But they don't even want humanoids besides Eggman to exist in Sonic's world, so they would never ask.

>>150181017
>needs Dodonpa's car to compete with Jet's custom Extreme Gear
Yawn.
Remember, Extreme Gear still confirmed faster than him, btw. Hope you don't forget that Shadowcuck

>>150180940
I feel robbed he didn't get his stamp.

>>150180679
>>150180904
>>150180921
>>150181017
Shadow fans still win

>>150181038
>RTH

>he’s seething this hard
Oh no no no no no no shadow bros

>>150181027
>Shadow beat Jet so many times with or without a board.
>Sonic beat Jet without cheating and Shadow beat Sonic in a race as well, so Jet is forever a second place has been

Just give up

>>150181056
they always are. All they got is denial of reality and self-inserting into a nursery school series

>>150181060
Fucking delite this now

>>150181060
>Posting archieshit cause he can't post a game
Figures.
Also Shadow never beat Sonic in a race, or else Final Story of SA2 wouldn't happen.

>>150181056
No not really. Shadow keeps winning and his air shoes are faster than chicken tech

>>150181060
>>150181075
You know we can see your 1-minute timestamps (and also your atrocious spelling mistakes)

>>150180814
And also, you know, fantasy.
Nights is a fantastical character from the dream realm or whatever.
Nowadays, an ideology is being pushed that this stuff is actually real so we have characters that are "between sexes" without any fantasy or sci-fi element being responsible.

How this fuck did this thread turn into Jet's one fan picking a fight with an Indian Shadow fan

>>150181080
Then how come the Game says Extreme Gear are faster than him, anon? (:
Also he needed to swap to new skates to keep up, don't forget

>>150181079
>Shadow never beat Sonic in a race, or else Final Story of SA2 wouldn't happen.
>already did 4 days ago

Cope

>>150181101
Jet has no fans, this fat shadowspic just cries and throws a tantrum every sonic thread. Same insecurity over powerlevels, same bad grammar. Talk about having no life.

>>150181101
I knew the thread was going to be derailed, but I imagined an entire different scenario.

Life, huh? I stand corrected.

Wasn't this the comic that had a section where the artist recommended a groomer porn comic to minors? How was that ok?

>>150181110
in a car race you mean? While driving someone else's car, nonetheless
Sonic's faster than Shadow in a real race. Extreme Gear are Faster than Shadow too. Canon.

>>150181118
what

>>150181118
>>150181128
it has to do with trannies so it's wholesome

>>150181118
Well, the truth is that... it isn't correct.
But they got away with it scott-free anyway.

>>150181090
>>150181102
Jet fans are lovers and virgins confirmed.

>>150181118
You mean Berserk?

>>150181146
i'm sure "lover" is an insult in your hometongue, raj, but can you translate it for us?

>>150181127
>Sonic's faster than Shadow in a real race. Extreme Gear are Faster than Shadow too. Canon.

Nope they're equal(foot or car), confirmed by Tails, Eggman and Omega. Cope and seethe.

>>150181148
this one
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1549304003

>TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES
Go back to /sthg/, where the actual trannies reside.

>>150181146
Go back to humping a maga hat, cuck.

>>150181018
They are adding Sage so not the most hopeless idea.
Only issue is I don't trust IDW to not have NiGHTS be a yapping blabster who never shuts up. Just entirely non verbal and relying on body language and cartoon antics to get the message across.

>>150181128
It was in issue 76. In the creator corner, Gigi Dutreix recommended Gender Queer: a Memoir to minors.

>>150181127
>Extreme Gear are Faster than Shadow too.

Feats or fucking kill yourselves. Shadow beat all of them despite their faster tech and can't out blitz him, so I call bs

>>150181164
then post Shadow beating Sonic in a footrace. Oh wait, you can't, lmao

>>150181171
>Read a comic with tranny main characters
>wtf how dare they criticise us trannies
Like, what did you expect? It's literally on the cover on this one

>>150181190
Shadow lost in Riders, raj. Try playing the game and then come back to us.
Also look here: >>150180740 the manual itself says so. It's canon. It's ok to cry

>>150181190
No, i'm pretty sure in all the Riders games, Shadow and Team Dark get btfoed

>>150181237
shhh, the shadowcuck can't play the games or read.

>>150181178
The Wii game already ruined that, sadly.

Yup, it's not easy representing badass and literate men, but somebody's gotta do it.

This is genuinely an argument where I want neither side to prevail.

>>150181312
lemme place the "enlightened centrist" crown on your head, anon. Then go back to your cuck chair

>>150181293
At least NiGHTS is cute in that one if nothing else.

>>150181301
God, he's so BaBylonian Complected


https://x.com/ShadeRonin/status/1961232832376050055

>>150181223
>>150181237
>>150181246
Shadow also beat them and beat them again in the animated promo and is Centralized as Sonics main rival in speed in marketing. Maybe you Babylon Rouge fans need to step down before Shadow actually takes their lore from them and adds them to making him superior since he's still.manages to Outstrip advance racing tech by being created by a scientist beyond even Jets ancestors.

>>150181301
>>150181412
Jets still a nobody, and Sonics views him as a nobody compared to Shadow and Metal.

>>150181392
Thinking Shadow and Jet are lame doesn't make you a centrist. They both represent an extreme side of the spectrum.

>he's still seething at Jet
lol

>>150181178
Shit, he was a blabber when Archie did a NiGHTS adaptation

>>150181730
>yap yap indian english coping with dodonpa’s car race
Jet was confirmed canonically faster than Shadow’s slow extreme gear shoes, btw. Remember?

Now I shall quote from the script of Sonic Free Riders, as a white american man who can read it unlike shadow rajeshis:

>Team Babylon Mission 03

>Shadow: This is some kind of mistake. How could I lose AGAIN?
>Rouge: Wow, three freak wins in row...
>Jet: Are you guys really that blind to your faults?!
>Omochao: And at the end of the first race, it's Team Babylon that's come out on top! These wind masters live up to the legends! There's already talk of this team going all the way. Let's get a word with them!
>Wave: Well of course we won the opening round. We're here to win the whole shebang.
>Jet: Where's the challenge?! I knew my only real competition was Sonic the Hedgehog.

>>150181754
Jet seethe at Sonic, Shadow already won against Jet(multiple times). So there's nothing you can say that changes things that makes Jet less impressive.

>>150181840
>Shadow already won against Jet(multiple times)
No he hasn’t. In fact Jet beats up Shadow in every Riders game.

And if you were able to read >>150181835 you’d know that Jet beat up 3 TIMES IN A ROW in just 1 game, and Shadow seethed and cried from it like a baby, lmao

>>150181835
>Tldlr non canon path
E-10000B: Well folks, it's an amazing victory for Team Dark, which is no surprise to anyone with a brain!
Omochao: Hey, I'm the fast-talking commentator here! I'll grant you that was a pretty cool impersonation, but stop butting in on my territory!
Rouge: I just feel bad for everyone watching. This won't even be close.
Wave: An upset like this must have really let the fans down...
Storm: And now the boss is mad!
Jet: Let's go! Time to cool off, then start plotting revenge.
Sonic: I'm impressed, Shadow! You guys managed to beat Jet and his gang.
Shadow: Hmph! Did you really think that we would lose?
Knuckles: I see your ego's as big as ever, Shadow.
Tails: That robot's a new addition, though. This could be tough, guys!
Omochao: Team Heroes seems cool and collected. Is it the calm before the storm?! I'll have all the details, assuming that robot doesn't get any more funny ideas!

Shadow never lost to Jet ever again after that.

>>150181835
>>150181854
>Jet beat up 3 TIMES IN A ROW in just 1 game
KEK
What a loser. This is your “hero” Shadow blobs?

I honestly believe /pol/ shitposting about the new OCs gender identity is more approachable than whatever this is.

>>150181870
It’s the only canon path, where Eggman reveals E-10000B as Metal at the end

>>150181854
>gameplay mechanics is jet beating Shadow.
>really this retarded

Cope, Shadow is a better racer than chicken fried fraud

>>150181911
Scripts aren’t game mechanics.

I know you’re too dumb to learn english but do at least try, blackie

>>150181872
>>150181883
Samefag

>>150181883
No its not

>>150181911
You can’t even spell, Shadow self-inserter. Also Main Story (Team Sonic) confirms Team Dark lost to the Rogues thrice and only managed to beat Team Rose

>>150181922
Nah you lose

>>150181933
Is your reposted twitter meme meant to mean something? Go back.

>>150176265
Well, that's another loss for Jobdow. Gotta add it to the collage.

>>150181961
Might wanna read >>150181079
>Posting archieshit cause he can't post a game
Figures.
Also Shadow never beat Sonic in a race, or else Final Story of SA2 wouldn't happen.

Now learn English or go back to twitter, raj.

>>150181954
Main story is irrelevant since Shadow beat Jet and Sonic anyways is his story.

>>150181984
Did Shadow actually beat Jet or were they both losers given Sonic left with the Warp Topaz?

>>150181964
>>150181980
>>150181983
Cope and Seethe, Sega loves Shadow and will have him only beat Sonic for now on. Not Jet

>>150182042
the Warp Topaz?

>>150182049
Yeah, Sega loves Shadow. IDW clearly has a beef with him though.

>>150181101
Why are you surprised?
Every Sonic thread gets spammed with Sonic and Shadow self-inserters crying like blubber babies.

>>150182042
>Did Shadow actually beat Jet

The awnser is always yes because sega and the critters will always have him be a joke to the main casr.

>>150182084
Not used to Jet self inserters though.

>>150181783
I know right, have NiGHTS rely on how expressive the fucker is

>>150182084
>Shadow self-inserters crying like blubber babies.

Projection much, this applies more to Shadow haters blubbering that he gets the spotlight over the cast.

>>150182119
Nobody thinks Jet is cool though. Even Silver is cooler than Jet.

I bet you anything basing this character off of Nights was how they convinced Sega to go with the whole non-gendered thing in the first place.

>>150182042 #
>Did Shadow actually beat Jet

The awnser is always yes because sega and the writters will always have Jet be a joke to the main cast.

>>150182084
>Every Sonic thread gets spammed with Sonic and Shadow self-inserters crying like blubber babies.
You're right with the Shadow part. As for Sonic, what its actually like is Tails self-inserters getting mad at Sonic and his fans and crying.

>>150177971
They/Them has been used for 3rd Person Singular Unknown for such a long time, it isn't some new id pol thing.

>>150182181
it can be used but it's unusual, especially if you've met the person

>>150182172
>>150181080
Seems less light a fight and more like two losers left holding the bag. I guess Rouge technically won what with all the gold and all.

>>150180236
That's Silver ever since the Archie Reboot.
He started out like Trunks from Z and now he's more like Time Patrol Trunks (always there guy that helps the plot along and is a loser 80% of the time).

>>150182174
>You're right with the Shadow part

Not really, we're getting everything we want while only the comics are screwing up Shadow just for more Sonic dick riding.

>>150180993
Highly doubtful. Sega would want money for the separate IP and its doubtful IDW would pay up.

>>150176418
Kek

>>150182291
So you just want everything to be Shadow dick riding and cry when he isn't. Got it. Sonic is better than Shadow btw. Just putting that out there.

Ok but when will they ever introduce Sonic's world humans (other than Eggman) to the comics? I want GUN to return.
I've heard they're not even being mandated by SEGA to not show them, and it's literally a Dobson-tier autistic creative decision. Is this true?

>>150182306
I feel like whatever the price would be it would be next to nothing, they barely use nights.

>>150182364
IPs costing a shitton are like half the reason Worlds Unite killed the Archie comic.

>>150182135
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/yKaC3LNdVvYixVY2R76IJg
5 years of you having no life and just crying on your computer on 4chan all day. Get a real life already, fatboi, you've wasted half a decade here being a self-inserter
>>150182174
To this day i've never seen a single Tailsfag go onto your Sonic or Shadow shipping threads in their free time trying to sabotage it. To this day I've never seen a single Tails x Rouge or Tails x Vanilla thread where a Sonicfag didn't start bawling and try to ruin it with a tantrum because you aren't drawing specifically their self insert. You might want to think about why you do that.

>>150182155
>Even Silver is cooler than Jet.
Jet is not just cooler than Silver, he's an actual good character to boot.

>>150182393
i hate IP squatting so much man, fucking Capcom lol.

>>150182354
Yes it's true, Shadow Generations shows humans extensively.

>>150182206
That's not unfair, if you saw someone in a trenchcoat running away, you would probably presume male too.

>>150182354
What is the point of them coming back when they just get btfo?

>>150182444
it's also a mouthful to have to assume gender neutral in everything, their plan in their house where we will catch them and find out what they were planning. Eventually you default to "that guy" and end up on "him"

>>150180392
Losing a fight is not the same as being killed.

>>150182353
Sonic shouldn't be better than everyone and never lose, that makes him a boring Gary stu. And there's no way Sonic is a better written character than Shadow. Absolutely not. He's just easier to write and fun to use in a shallow way.

>>150182354
The leading suspicion is that Sega hasn't figured out an easy "template" for generic human models like the Forces OC generator, and they're clamping down on anyones' human portrayals to prevent any warped expectations of how they're meant to look.

Before anyone points to Tailstube, understand that to this day, there is a divide in the workflow between SoJ & SoA. With the games, Sonic Team writes the story, but the dialogue is written later. On two occasions (Lost World and Frontiers) the English script localizers were allowed to write their version of the script first, then Sonic Team made further changes to it for the Japanese version, to make it match their vision. That's why the Japanese script for Frontiers is almost completely different, at least for the main cutscenes. It was only around The Final Horizon that Ian was allowed to write the script for the main cutscenes, which were translated to Japanese while someone else at Sonic Team wrote the script for the secondary cutscenes, which were translated to English without Ian's involvement.

>>150182402
>tdlr non sense
Are you having a stroke old man?

>>150182403
Jets a liar, cheater, a coward and total greedy scum bag who cant win anything fair and square. Silver is beyond Jet in total awesomeness as he's on par with Sonic and Shadow in their general skills and saves the world on his own.

>>150182515
>Sonic shouldn't be better than everyone and never lose, that makes him a boring Gary stu
But that's what he is

>>150182583
Then why he croak to Knux in sonic 3

monke

>>150182578
you could've saved some words and just wrote "I never played Free Riders"

>>150182135
Based shadow harem enjoyer

>>150182643
you're replying to yourself
>>150181038
again

>>150182625
The game where Sonic beat Jet and saved most of the day?

>>150182515
>And there's no way Sonic is a better written character than Shadow. Absolutely not. He's just easier to write and fun to use in a shallow way.
See pic related

Also
>Sonic shouldn't be better than everyone and never lose, that makes him a boring Gary stu

You niggas be talking shit about Sonic all the time, then you faggots literally bitch when your husbando isn't being a boring gary stu. Not to mention coming in threads with like: how he should hog everything, be better, should never lose, fuck everyone, etc. Do you not have any self awareness?

>>150182666
no, the game where Jet beat Sonic fair and square and even got mad at Wave for trying to cheat because that would make his win illegitimate. Then demanded a rematch when he suspected Wave of cheating.

I don't know how anyone can be so delusional trying to call Jet a cheater when his character is all about how much he hates the very idea of that. Must take being a hedgehog self-inserter triggered by the outside world.

>>150182625
So, most Sonic fans?

>>150182663
Cope snd Seethe. I'm right incel.

>>150182736
you can't even spell "snd", that's why you spent 5 years on your computer, self inserting and crying like a woman every sonic thread
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/yKaC3LNdVvYixVY2R76IJg

>>150182682
That image is retarded, whether you like a character or it has more impact on you doesn't matter to the rest of the world.

>>150182578
I don’t see how those things make Jet a bad character. Especially when compared to the most contrived character to keep around who makes every story he touches down in quality just by being in it.

>>150182697
>no, the game where Jet beat Sonic fair and square

Wasn't even on Sonics league and already lost when Sonic mastered extreme gear the second he rode it. Jet cheated like a bitch and still enjoyed his win seeing him lose and didnt care if it was dishonest.

>Must take being a hedgehog self-inserter triggered by the outside world.

Imagine being a cartoon burden self inserter fan where he's treated as a joke in universe, way worse

>>150182792
You're just admitting you never played the game, Shadowbaby, because Jet never cheated. Get a life already, christ, it's embarrassing seeing a grown man like you throw a tantrum over fictional character you never even played

Wait, aren't you that same Sasuke cuckold who seethes at Naruto being better than him?

https://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/oIIxKZCSaxbmANHiIuakAA%3D%3D/page/1/

KEK if so

>>150181880
Can they both be completely equally retarded for different reasons?

>>150182844
Look at this gem
>Really? dont you mc self inserters fucking have enough hentai fan art and attention of them plowing the oversexxed waifu to death with your moutains of doujinshis and porn cg works? Let us rival fans have some fun for once and some attention. Especially to you insufferable naruharem fanboys! You faggots got so much porn of him and other girls you block out other not only Sasuje but shonen heroes! Its because of you Sasuke is always looked down upon by the quality culture of nerdom and called a boring emo failure who is known for being ntr fuel for that cringy ugly ass white boi weeb nardo and the blackage.

Embarrassing

>>150182697
I never played freeriders but that's crazy that would just flip flip his characterization and reputation like that. I'll have to take your word for it.

>>150182977
since 2019 too. Allah please don't let me ever get that pathetic, I want a wife and kids

>>150182977
https://x.com/JoeSho87/media

>>150183082
Just a look and it gets worse. How do you get this pathetic.

>>150183128
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/306774142/#306795293
38 year old man, btw

>>150183192
LMAO

>>150182844
Oh my god I haven't seen this guy in years, he had multiple twitter accounts where he spammed gore of naruto and sonic over shipping/porn. He self inserts in to shadow and sasuke extremely hard and is all about them having harems, he's still at it?

>>150183222
>>150183082
I was trying to remember his username, I could only remember the Joe part. I remember him having some sasuke harem specific accounts too.

>>150183222
yup. every sonic thread now he's here crying
guy like that (the average sonic/shadowcuck) never stood a chance in the real world where even a little kid might beat him up and steal his lunch money

>>150182515
>Sonic shouldn't be better than everyone and never lose, that makes him a boring Gary stu.

That's how he's written in basically everything. He's boring.

>>150183222
>>150183244
tried doing same with a mha harem account
https://x.com/Purifyallnow
got suspended for still constantly seething and self-inserting as shadow the hedgecuck

>>150183222
One of these said accounts of his, where he does the same thing
https://x.com/purifyallnow2/media

>>150183192
>nearly fucking 40 years old and still self-inserting through shadow the hedgehog and sasuke
IMAGINE

>>150183354
imagine the smell more like, kek

Not sure if you know of this but this was just announced

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>https://aiptcomics.com/2025/09/03/super-sonic-monthly-idw-sonic-comics/

>>150182782
Nothing burger of an argument, Jet and his gang a shallow bully but joke antagonist getting put in his place by everyone who get manages to get on everyone's bad side. Shadows own love of Cofee Beans has more depth and compelling entertainment value that the former

>>150182682
>You niggas be talking shit about Sonic all the time, then you faggots literally bitch when your husbando isn't being a boring gary stu. Not to mention coming in threads with like: how he should hog everything, be better, should never lose, fuck everyone, etc. Do you not have any self awareness?

So sonic should be the only Gary stu then, no wonder the year of shadow is continuing. Sonic is boring by himself now.

>>150183128
>>150183192
>>150183222
>>150183327
>>150183354
Are you guys high

>>150182823
>Tdlr of projection

Cry moar

>>150182764
>>150182782
>>150183192
>>150183222
>>150183244

These posts are all the same guy including the troll

>>150183548
>>150183577
>>150183618
hey anon?

>>150183679
Who's that?

>>150183797
a loser. He canonically got cucked and beaten up by Naruto

>>150183863
damn just like Shadow then

>>150183244
>>150183259
>>150183325
>>150183354
>>150183363
Why are you talking to yourself, get laid already

>>150183863
>>150183873
Why are you talking to yourself? Shadow is a winner unlike you.

>>150183863
Sasuke won in a sense he got away with everything and the Mc still kisses his ass. The MC won the battle but not the war.

>>150183970
Shadow's like Sasuke tho?
And Sasuke's a cuck and a loser, last i checked

>>150183863
>>150183873
Well, Sasuke IS considered Naruto's Vegeta.

>>150183990
the MC did win the war. All Sasuke has left is middle-aged virgin losers like you self inserting as him on your computer

>>150180236
>write characters and conflict to be entirely separate to Sonic & Co
>be told you need Sonic & Co for a Sonic comic license
>oh fuck oh jeeze oh fuck uhhh and uhhh Silver! Phew, solved that problem

>>150183990
your obsessions with "MCs" and "Rivals" is pathetic. You're a grown real man not an anime character, go outside you pig

>>150183970
Based

>>150184009
>>150184079
Get a girlfriend already, you're the one obsessed with mcd losing to rivals.

>>150183992
>Shadow's like Sasuke tho?
>And Sasuke's a cuck and a loser, last i checked

No, Shadows actually cool and competent in the games and movies. Sasuke is a joke and a deadbeat.

>>150183992
>>150184009
>>150183990
>>150184079
Still more self projection a samefag anon?

>>150184009
>>150184079
Get a girlfriend already, you're the one obsessed with mcs losing to rivals

>>150182415
Having the IP != Having resources to make use of it

>>150183995
I thought Shadow was based on Hiei and the Terminator according to Iizuka. Not Vegeta

>>150184133
>>150184152
>>150184176
>>150184192
we can still all see your 1-minute apart post times and embarrassing spelling errors

What attracts obese middle aged losers to Shoto Todoroki and Shadow the hedgehog, again?

>>150184253
escapism/self-insertion

wtf is wrong with this fandom?
Did the issue 80 thread get this autistic?

>>150184222
>>150184253
Still talking to yourself? Self Projector.

>>150184294
yes.
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/yKaC3LNdVvYixVY2R76IJg
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/149334809/#149336795
hell just look at some of his other tantrums kek

>>150184284
>>150184294
It's just one anon who hates Shadow

>>150184210
>based on Hiei and the Terminator according to Iizuka
First time I've heard of those two as references for Shadow.
Vegeta's name is written in Shadow's, then Terios, design sheet, proving they were aiming to give shonen an aloof shonen rival.
Then Iizuka has also mentioned Spawn as the inspiration (even denying and redacting the Vegeta name in the working sheet, kek).

In any case, Hiei, in the same vein as Sasuke, is considered YuYu Hakusho's Vegeta.

>>150184313
That's you anon

>>150184210
>based on Hiei and the Terminator according to Iizuka
First time I've heard of those two as references for Shadow.
Vegeta's name is written in Shadow's, then Terios, design sheet, proving they were aiming to give Sonic an aloof shonen rival.
Then Iizuka has also mentioned Spawn as the inspiration (even denying and redacting the Vegeta name in the working sheet, kek).

In any case, Hiei, in the same vein as Sasuke, is considered YuYu Hakusho's Vegeta

>>150184253
>Bakugou is also a cuckold to todoroki

Anon...

>>150184347
nah pretty sure it's you blubbering like a self-inserting baby every thread

>>150183325
>>150183327
see >>150184368

The twitter cuck is still self inserting through children's cartoons

>>150184268
>>150184253 #
>Bakugou is also a cuckold to todoroki

Anon...

>>150184368
Todoroki's a character for edgy low iq manchildren with disappointed fathers, i'm not surprised you self insert as him also

>>150184406
see >>150184413
deleting your own posts cause you can't even post correctly, lmao

>>150184371
>>150184395
Sleep now little boy, this thread will die with you madness

>>150184426
Way better characters than yours I'm afraid

>>150184427
die with you?
You're legit so dumb i can't even tell what you're saying. And you're almost 40.

The only thing you can kill is another hour spent crying on the computer about MHA and sonic the hedgehog, you crybaby cuck

>>150184284
See this>>150184406

>>150184454
https://x.com/purifyallnow2
KEK he's actually seething lmao
>>150184444
I don't live through shonen characters, you have to because you're a repulsive middle aged manchild

>>150184454
Who is that? You? You seriously need help

>>150184477
Why a re you talking to yourself

>>150184486
>>150184503
1 minute apart, again

>>150184503
>Shadowfag is a kamala soiboy too
damn this keeps getting better

>>150184506
You're talking to yourself. Nobody is here but you and me

>>150184503
>anti-maga meme
This explain a lot, really.

>>150184454
>>150184531
How does someone's life get this pathetic? Seriously

>>150184531
Kamala was right, but your still talking to yourself.

>>150184548
you're
Kamala is for low-t terminally online soiboys like Walz and (YOU)

Well, we hit bump limit, and I guess I owe certain anons an apology (they know who they are), against all predictions, it wasn't them who derailed the thread. So, my bad, sorry.

>>150184538
>>150184542
Why are you talking to yourself.

>>150184561
No, you're still talking to yourself and you have no life.

>>150184564
shut up nigger.

>>150184591
Again proving my point, why is one boy so pathetic and every way

Imagine if it's actually two anons having an argument like bots and not just one anon trying to page 10 the thread and encouraging others to jump in.
That'd be embarrassing to be either of those anons.

>>150183492

Spam and popups as hair on a pussy

>>150184561
You're more pathetic somehow because you want to ruin this kids life out of spite. You probably have no life or friends or a girlfriend either cuz You're on a sonic thread.

>>150184686
wut? Am I supposed to know what your loud house deviantart picture means

The mind of an adult shadowfag is a mystery to the adult world

Kinda funny how nothing the issue was this is how we spent the thread. Good laughs on anons exposing the shadowfag were kinda worth it though.

>>150184542
You tell me anon, you're the one self spamming. Thanks for confirming g you're more pathetic and embarrassing than a middle aged loser

>>150184704
>>150184712
You just expose yourself and only you. Seek help.

>>150184715
no not really, i think the 38 year old self-inserter shadowfag is still the embarrassing one

>Sonic IDW discussion
>Anime out of nowhere
Hmm

>>150184715
>>150184742
>1 minute apart
>terrible spelling
still don't know what your loud house art means, or your english

>>150184704
>The mind of an adult sonic and jet fag is a mystery to the adult world

Fixed

>>150184744
>>150184757
Why are you talking to yourself?

>>150184760
are you gonna tell me what your loud house art means or just gonna post more saved art you have of the other sonic cast crying, again?

>>150184777
Why are you talking to yourself?

>samefag calling others samefag
lol

>>150184795
I don't think you know what that phrase actually means do you.

>>150184816
>Samefag just called samefags calling samefag

>>150184846
Why are you talking to yourself?

>>150184564
You’re part of the problem you pussy gay redditor.

Wow, this is actually somehow worse than /sthg/. Now I remember why I stopped using this board years ago.

>>150184665
True, I may not like how Shadow is written at times in this comic, but man, it gets to a point ya know?

>>150178041
>Lunar is not trans, it is a cybernetic memetic AI entity that possesses people through those masks.
Huh, that line in Tangle and Whisper was foreshadowing...

>>150185025
Sonic fans are lost souls, all of them. But Shadow fans are the most lost. I Hope they keep using him until his frequent appearances are the norm and people will stop bitching about him and making him look like an enemy. Also Shadow > Jet

>>150178223
I sat my ass down and read this comic for Surge and Kit, now with how the comic is going I think I'm just going to not read any of it until they show up again because good god is this just boring as fuck to read (again).

Also I miss Blaze.

>writer hasn't revealed yet why Lunar doesn't know what is going on
>anons declaring with authority what it is
Have some patience

>>150182354
>Is this true?
why would you ask this here, why would you think anyone would actually know and not just be talking out of their ass