Thread 76494953

>Who is /fat/ for?
For corpulent consumers working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
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>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faq

Previous thread: >>76490014

>lose weight
>body hair starts growing

yo what the fuck

>>76494972
being fat suppresses test
when you lose fat test goes up
when test goes up body hair goes up
simple as

>>76494980
I'm scared to lose weight, test is going to annihilate my hairline. Still, better to be bald and healthy that a fucking obeast.

>>76494983
Unless you're around your early 20's or earlier I doubt you'll see a significant change to your hairline, if any at all, in regard to test increase

>>76494983
>Still, better to be bald and healthy that a fucking obeast.
balding is mostly genetics, so it's less "bald and healthy vs obeast", and more "bald and healthy vs bald and obeast"

>>76494980
Makes me sad aswell, I liked being mostly hairless before

When 10x3 becomes easy, should I

>Increase weight, lower to 5x3 and work back upto 10x3

>Stick with 3x10 and increase weight slower not raising until current set feels effortless

I want a decent amount of reps because I need more than just strength, I have poor motor skills and hypotonia. Want a balanced build.

>>76495032
Can't say which is better in theory, but I've stuck with 8x3, with each next set having an slightly higher weight than the last. Last set usually ends in failure. Once I can comfortably do 8x3 I raise the weights by the next minimal increment, and then repeat
As to your question, I don't know if it's advisable to raise the weight to such a high level that you can only do 5 reps instead of 10

>>76494953 (OP)
Nice pic

>overreat like shit yesterday
>was completely fine for the rest of the day
>next day
>I'm literally dying here just feel like absolute garbage
If only could remember these times before I start to binge eat but I never do in the moments when it counts

>>76495003
I'm 18 and after losing a bit of weight I've noticed that my temples have started to go back, even though no one in my family has ever had hair problems
I hope Mr. Norwood doesn't come for me

Fatty Contest
KickboxAnon
217.4lbs

What's your motivation?

I just did my first few pull ups. Very satisfying.

I ate and entire tub of pringles

>>76495245
I drank a Guinness, but I didn't lose weight.

>>76495245
I used to do that pretty much every single day. Not anymore though.

>>76495242
My motivation is how everyone tells me how good I look
Also feels nice running fast for a bit without getting out of breath immediately

>>76495257
It took me until the 3rd person to realise people weren't kidding when I looked way more muscular.

Someone tell me how this is possible-

>take big shit
>lose .3lb
>let out a lot of gas from bloating
>lose 1lb

>>76495277
farts are heavier than shits, retard

>>76495245
I ate 1600 cals extra last night, peanut butter with banana on bread and caramel chocolate and this morning I hit a new scale low.

>>76495257
>Also feels nice running fast for a bit without getting out of breath immediately
I still can't do this, running for a minute still makes me winded and I've been running everyday for the past six months. Still waiting for the stamina gains to kick in, but they still haven't yet.

>>76495267
Old ladies started telling me I was looking good when I had only lost like 20 lbs, I swear old ladies have like a sixth sense or something I couldn't even tell I had any visual progress yet when they started telling me I had lost weight.

>>76495286
I'm the same. I can maybe stay at LVL 3, but if I try to up my pace at all I go straight to LVL 5.

>>76495242
>What's your motivation?
my doctor said if I couldn't get my blood pressure under control, then I'd have to go on pills. Most likely for the rest of my life

I've been trying to make myself diet and exercise for years and this is the first time I'm actually managing to do it. And got my BP down to like 100/70 when I measure in the morning. It almost feels like cheating, everybody else has to use willpower but for me I basically have no choice, I have a metaphorical gun pointed at my head

>>76495290
I can handle 3 for maybe a minute before I need to slow down and walk, even then that's pushing it, sometimes I bitch out at 30s~45s, 4 makes me feel like my lungs are on fire and my heart is going to burst, I have no idea how people stay in 4 very long. I've never hit 5.

>>76495284
>peanut butter with banana on bread and caramel chocolate
that shit was my staple back in high school.

fuck dude if only bananas didn't give me constipated diarrhea

>>76495300
The thing with meds is that you can use them for as long as you want and quit when you want but they will still have served your health in the meantime.

>>76495309
sure but it sounds like stopping BP meds can be dangerous? I don't know much about it desu. Plus if I'd gone that route I probably wouldn't have bothered with the lifestyle changes.
In any case I've got it low enough now that my doc says the medicine isn't necessary any more

>>76495309
Not with all meds. Some will give rebounding issues.

>>76495335
Steadily lower the dose over the course of weeks or even months. It's not that difficult.
My personal preference are drugs with a short half life as the body won't get used to it.

>>76495242
fat my whole life. time to see how green the gras is on the other side

>>76495341
No shit. But getting off some meds still can lead to problems. Even if you do it slow.

>>76494980
i was hairy as before, now fucking back hair start growing as i progress

>>76495377
Let's say you have a blood pressure of 140/100. You tell yourself "I'll surely lose weight so I don't need medication for this". 5 years pass and you're still a fatass with high blood pressure. Only then do you decide to actually lose weight (or you just get a GLP1 prescribed) and your blood pressure lowers to 120/80. Wouldn't it have been healthier to just have been using blood pressure medication for those 5 years?

>lose 2 inches off my waist
>gain 8 lbs

How? I’m lifting and making progress with strength but I can’t be gaining muscle that fast. 6’1” 189

>>76495394
If you are in a calorie deficit, it is impossible to gain total mass.

>>76495406
Sure you can
Just eat high carb high sodium and drink lots of water and you will gain weight even on deficit

>>76495433
I’m chugging 2 gallons of water a day

>>76495032
I would generally argue technique focus over weight increase, but it depends on which exercise you're talking about and what your form is like already. Realistically both options are acceptable and going to result in progress, so there's no need to overthink it.

>>76495498
3 sets 15 reps is generally considered too many for compounds though, right? Gotta bump that weight up? Same for accessories?

Hope none of you fatties have been taking the easy way out
https://www.sciencealert.com/new-research-confirms-weight-loss-drug-link-with-sudden-vision-loss

Lost 10kg in 3 months from 222kg to 212kg. I'm 6'0 and using Mounjaro, feels like this is very slow considering my size and the amount I'm eating (sometimes <1500 kcal)
Recently I've been fluctuating +-0.5kg or thereabouts.
Is my progress slow? Is it actually possible to eat too little?
I'm very desperate to lose weight as I'm miserable and housebound due to the mental elves but I wonder if I'm just being overly impatient.

>>76495538
Not its not possible to eat too little for your size, and you should lose weight faster
I feel like you're underestimating your calorie consumption here

>>76495528
Generally yes, but again this depends on how good your form actually is and which accessories you are talking about, increasing weight on bench is different from increasing weight on wrist curls.
If you're doing 15 half reps with cheating and you bump up weight just for ego, you're just asking for injury. If you're doing the exercise correctly and can handle more weight on it, then go ahead.

>Get home from gym at 12 PM
>Don't eat
>Sleep till 2 AM
>Weigh myself
>Minus 1 lb
Man you people weren't kidding that sleeping is important

>weight self, hate that I didn't beat my round number
>hang out for 10 minutes, no fuck that i need a win
>weight myself again, .9 win
>okay, I am only cheating myself
>weight again, .9
>weight again, .9
>weight last time, .9

This has been the most unsatisfying victory ever. I am still down, I'll focus on that.

>>76495242
i just wanna live a long life.
i want to see myself skinny too. never not had a disgusting overhanging gut. shame i'll have lose skin.

>>76495544
Usually I eat stuff from a packet so I can scan the barcode and log it in an app but a couple times a week I'll eat a home cooked meal so it's entirely possible I'm doing something wrong with weighing the ingredients and portioning too much.
Thanks anon I'll try to be more prudent with my calorie consumption

The reason people should walk is because your body is more like a golden retriever than you think. It just wants to walk and run around and look at shit. It is the natural way of things. Should you also do weights? Sure. But dogs that walk have a "good dog" vibe to them, which you want for your own body. Should you be strong, etc? Yes, obviously, but the problems come when you have strength without the "good goy" vibe, which just looks weird and off putting. 90% of problems encountered here are best addressed with
>eat less but top quality whole foods
>walk as much as humanly possible
and strength goes perfectly atop that when the time comes. This, obviously, is just my experience, but it is working

>>76495535
>Non-arteritic anterior ischaemic optic neuropathy, or NAION, is a rare but devastating eye condition that occurs when blood flow to the optic nerve is suddenly reduced or blocked. It's also called an "eye stroke".
>One study found semaglutide or tirzepatide was associated with a more modest risk of developing NAION than previously thought. Of 159,000 people with type 2 diabetes who were taking these drugs, 35 people (0.04%) developed NAION, compared with 19 patients (0.02%) in the comparison group.
>Counter to this, the second study did not find an increased risk of NAION among those taking GLP-1 drugs.

You should learn to read more than just the headlines. The problem is beetus, these drugs are not making tons of people blind it's just a possible elevated risk on top of the main factor which is being a fatty over time causing eye stokes and a bunch of other health risks. Even if we assume the increase in the first study was completely due to these drugs, it would still behoove beetus sapiens to use them if it helps them lose the weight.

>>76495588
Isn't it recomended to weight your self back to back to back. Most scales esp if you are dealing with heavy weight need one weigh in to "calibrate" censors.

>>76495535
I've been taking it.
So far I can still see.

I'll keep you updated.

I'm kind of glad I have an old analog scale. I can only really read it to the closest full kilogram, so no point stressing over daily measurements

Today I didn't feel like cooking really, so I made this;
Frozen Brussels's sprouts, nuked in a microwave for 10 minutes.
Preheated oven to 200C convection, cut Brussels sprouts into halves (optional) and put on a wire rack. Add chicken.
Leave in oven for 20 minutes. Prepare a flavorful sauce, it should contain something acidic, something sweet to balance it, something hot, and whatever else you want for flavor. If you eat collagen, add to sauce at this step too.
Heat sauce and add starch slurry until consistency is right, toss brussel's sprouts in sauce, cut up chicken, eat.
~5 minutes actual work, 10 if you go the extra mile and cut the nuked sprouts.
Not bad honestly.

>>76495242
mental and physical strength.
making the girl who dumped me last week regret it

>>76495580
For example, I've been doing full goblet squats, with okay-ish as far as I can tell form and until thighs are parallel to the floor with 15kg (don't laugh) for 3x15 without much trouble. Bumped that up to 20kg (no seriously I know that's barely anything) and had to lower reps to 3x12. Now I'm wondering if I should be doing the same with the rest of the exercises.

>>76495242
3 Things:
- My mental health is finally "good" now, after years of clinical depression, de-realization and de-personalization. Now that I've felt how much better life is with that fixed, I want to also see how much better things will be if my physical health also gets better. There's so much I can't do or enjoy because I'm fat, and I'm done with missing out.
- I'm disabled, so while I can't build muscle as fast as normal people (by a substantial margin), the little I can gain matters much more to daily life. Being able to sit down at a party without having to scan the room for ways to get back up, being able to walk up stairs without needing to crawl against a wall, every bit of strength I gain directly results in quality of life and probably lifespan (as I'm likely not going to get as old as normal people).
- One of my oldest friends is getting married in 4 months. I'm the groomsman despite us having had not that much contact during my depressive episodes. It's an honor that I don't want to disappoint. Ideally I want to look good, at the very least I refuse to look actively bad on his big day.

Wagmi anon.

>>76495242
Spite.

>>76494953 (OP)
>felt hungry
>made salad with chicken
>1 bell pepper, handful of cherry tomatoes, handful of shredded carrots and beetroot and 100g chicken, with a bit of olive oil and balsamico
>350cal max
It's fucking nothing but it curbs the hunger so well and now I feel like I overate

>stop lifting for a month
>lift again
>48hrs later
>INSANE exhaustion
>DOMS
>self-destructive tendencies

Should I even lift? Or give up and get skinnyfat again the normie way? (cardio and cico)

My good lifts flirt with intermediate level but I'm generally not consistent enough to hit good numbers. I especially neglect my weakest muscles (abs, glutes).

>>76495535
imagine not just eatin less ngmi
t natty

>>76496037
>stop doing something for month
>it's hard
no shit.

>2 oranges
>2 slices of dave's killer bread with pb
>couple slices of deli cut pepperoni
hmm shouldn't have snacked so much now i'm like 600ish calories in the hole today and its only 3pm. gotta make dinner for my mum and me in a couple hours too.

>>76485685
>increase stress on muscles
>be surprised when they are tired

??????


>>76488888
based digits of proudness and congratulation

>>76496107
Rowing usually doesn't engage the chest much, that's why I was suprised. Back, legs and arms aren't surprising.

>>76495535
the tiny risk of blidness is less bad for your leath than being 150-200+lbs overweight

>>76495242
>Longevity
>Self-actualization i.e. forging my best self
>Strength

>>76495242
simply aesthetic purposes, women like skinny guys

Another day another 12 soft boiled eggs. Just ate 4, gonna eat the rest slowly over the rest of the day. 840 calories. A little under .5lbs fat loss a day.

>>76496037
Yeah i also stopped for 2 months and the same thing happened to me, it's nothing to worry about just keep lifting

Has anybody here had success with alternate day fasting? Fast on Monday, wed, fri, eat normally on all other days.

>>76496208
gmi

>>76496336
I dont have a schedule like that, I just fast when I eat too much and I try to keep weekly calories at 11k for weightloss

>>76494980
Does it still work when you start reaching 40?

>>76495242
If I'm going to swallow pills for the rest of my life, it might as well be supplements rather than amlodipine. If I'm going to grunt like an old man, I might as well do it from lifting heavy weights rather than lifting my ass from a chair.

>>76496405
>rather than lifting my ass from a chair
You're gonna do that anyway, just a tad later.

>4:15 PM
>have only had 525 calories
I’m sure this isn’t exactly breaking news to most of you but just in case, try delaying breakfast as long as you can. Coffee may help. I used to eat 200 calories or so almost immediately after waking up and that may have been counterproductive.

when i hit my goal weight i'm having the most disgusting binge day i possibly can. like, i'm putting a pound or two back on. it's gonna be violent and disgusting.

>>76496516
peak NGMI mind

>>76496208
gonna end up incredibly skinnyfat

>>76496516
Same, life is not worth it without binging
And I want to test myself that I can diet and slim down anytime after binges again, this is necessary for maintenance

>>76496521
nigga i'm already making it. one binge is not gonna kill me. in actuality i'll hit 4k calories and tap out.

>>76496516
>like, i'm putting a pound or two back on.
yeah, I too use salt in and on my food

>>76496534
thanks mr autismo, next time i'll let the class know i'm talking about fat

>>76496524
That's ok. I'll be skinny when you're still fat and then when I finish my first bulk you'll still be fat. Stay jelly fatty.

>>76496550
nigga you're gonna fall off and binge your way back up

>>76496550
Feel free to have that day 1 binge, but dont make it a full week. Bulking is a long game and outside of the first week or two rebound, you only wanna put on 2-3 pounds a month max. Dont blow your wad too early.

>>76496516
Same but luckily I've gotten to the point where eating 3000 calories feels like my stomach is going to burst. Plus I need to bulk to regain my muscle.

How do I cut off sugary drinks like soda and energy drinks?

>>76496631
Drink diet

>>76496631
Have tea prepared ahead of time.

Reminder to get yourself a kitchen scale. Combined with a calorie tracker app it makes portioning meals so easy.

>>76496631
Zero sugar variants. Once you get used to them they're almost always better than their full sugar counterparts. I wish they would make a diet full throttle. btw pepsi zesty sitrus is fucking disgusting. I bought a case by mistake thinking it was pepsi zero. At least it's zero kcal.

>just finished dieting
>walking to taco bell for nachos
>gym shorts are so loose they keep falling down
fug

>>76496704
By the time I hit my goal weight late august or early sept my unemployment will have run out and I'll be dressed like year one harry potter until work starts and I buy some clothes.

>>76496724
Get a job

>>76496208
>Dozen soft boiled eggs

My nigga. Boiled eggs are insanely OP. I eat 3 for breakfast or lunch if I skipped breakfast and they provide such good satiety and proteins for like 70 calories each. Couple that with a protein shake an hour or so later and you're golden.

>>76496516
I kind of want to do this but at the same time I’m gonna have defined abs and wouldn’t want to see them go away. I’d probably just start eating a pint of halo top a day lol.

>>76496724
Ha my unemployment runs out in october myself! Ive got some decent savings though. Time to find new job when Im back from Japan. Just bought a bunch of new outfits and some chains as a reward though. Kinda basic but heres one.

>>76496728
I have a great seasonal job, I just have an autistic rule that I don't spend money on superfluous shit when the unemployment is done, regardless of my savings. Holdover from when I was a low payed deckhand.

>>76496766
Looking good man. I have the perfect lifestyle to travel but I don't want to give up those gov bucks and canada won't pay when you're out of country

>>76496704
I do a ton of ass work at the gym to ward off the cost of buying new clothes. Very unemployed and broke.

It does seem to be working. Of course that means I track my ass like my calories, weight and lifts which isn't good for my mental health.

>>76495242
I was unhappy being fat and I wanted to live a better life.

I can forsee losing weight again. Have to have a root canal done. Just depressed about the whole thing and eating is the last thing I feel like doing right now. Motivation is motivation right.

>>76495242
>What's your motivation?
You posted her. Ryoko a best.

>>76496818
>Ryoko a best.
Indeed, indeed.

>>76496766
Do you eat much different now that you are in good shape? How do you maintain? I keep thinking of a trip to Japan, I think about using it as a reward for hitting my goal. Say the moment I hit 89kg flat, I book a trip.

>>76496826
>>76496818
>>76495242
>waifu'd Ryoko
>best bro waifu'd Ayeka
>would passionately argue about that shit on the d-line

Fuck, where does the time go?

>>76496784
Thank you. To be fair I actually interviewed in japan for some roles last visit, but didnt get it so I was trying. Kinda just did the bare minimum to keep my tendies since then. Took the time to study and cut off the bulking weight.

>>76496787
What do you mean track your ass?

>>76496834
I actually first got lean in march 2024 and tracked my progress in this thread. I immiediately went into a bulk for about 14 months and put on 30 pounds. Spent the last 4 months or so dieting back down and lost 24 pounds and look leaner. I plan to do this again until Im 185 lb 15% body fat in like 2 years or so. Im 162 now and probably around 11%. My diet has pretty much just been hitting 140g+ protein with more or less junk depending on bulk or cut. I also recommend just booking the flight as soon as you can afford it. It will light a fire under your ass to hit your goals in time for the flight. I actually went in march at peak bulk and promised some girls Id come back with abs and hit my goals, so im excited to go back in a few days. I remember showing one a picture of me lean and she mocked licking my phone lol. That kinda thing gets you excited to meet your goals. Ngl tho seeing myself chubbed up at peak bulk fucked with me a bit, but I put on around 10 pounds of muscle over the year and look much bigger. Well worth it. Plus I got to eat a shitload!

>>76496702
>>76496645
So /fat/ likes diet drinks then? I know it’s a controversial topic.

>>76496884
My pants don't fall down nearly as much. I also am taking the regular measurements, but I haven't figured out a good way to do ratio stuff. Everything is fucking shrinking. Fuck you chest, I worked hard, stop shrinking you ungrateful piece of crap.

Anyways, take picture, zoom to same level as previous picture, look for changes.

I draw lines and measure them too:
- ass cheek become a line instead fades into quad
- length between edge and middle of hip with a side view

It is highly effected by pump, water and 4 other things that I am sure I am not aware of. It isn't very effective, but part of the crazy I signed up for when I guy like me starts measuring. If I am measuring one thing, I must measure all things.

My ass cheek line has been improving so that means something is happening. I am not even sure if it is a good thing or just related to the weight loss. It is almost impossible to look at pics of your ass and think, what do I want this to look like?

I have asked a ton of people and nobody has a good answer for me, not even what a good lift is for ass work. 1/2/3/4 isn't going to cut it.

>>76496911
I can't see any reason not to drink them besides that they're bad for your teeth and some vague theories about artificial sweeteners. If I were super fit and looking to min max harder I would start looking into it more, but right now they give me easy caffeine, pad out a meal and most importantly have zero calories.

>>76496915
Try hip thrusts, good mornings, and high rep low weight deadlifts

>>76496631
switch to zero sugar variants for now, maybe transition to tea and an occasional kombucha later

>>76496911
I avoid them now, I was spamming them hard at one point because I got sick of water and "lol 0 calories" but I noticed they made me far hungrier than when I wasn't drinking them. When I quit them my cravings went away too. No idea if it was the artificial sweeteners or something else, but something they put in that stuff triggers my appetite hard. Avoiding them made sticking to my diet much easier becsue I dont get random cravings anymore.

>>76496813
>root canal
My condolences, had one a year ago. At the very least the pain until then will make you eat less and the costs will make you buy less food

>>76496947
I meant for a numbers. My routine is solid. I would compare with females, but the numbers don't match up. Especially with the form variations. I was squeaking out my hip thrust at 225x8x3. I get insanely more pump by holding and the top, dropping down the smallest amount and then pushing up again before returning down. I had to drop my weight to 185 lbs, but my reps are up to 14.

Same shit for the hip abduction. I have both leaning forward and leaning backward variants. Then I see all the bitching palm fucking the machine like they are trying to climb it. My lean forward numbers are 20% higher than my lean back. Since male I want that top shelf muscle. I assume that pisses off the gays, but honestly no idea. Women don't look at asses so it just comes down to me trying to figure out goals.

>>76496980
>costs
I know right. I think not eating for 2 months might cover the bulk of it

>>76497020
Women definitely look at mens asses. I may work on mine and my legs as a focus for this bulk. I figure its a quick way to add way more pounds of muscle than i did this bulk so I can keep my tdee climbing. My goal is to get big enough to have a high tdee and eat tons alongside a maintenence lifting routine while I work on becoming faster at sprints.

>>76497057
I am sure a few do, but most care more about the t-ratio. A huge ass will screw that up.

Maybe you have been in fitness world too long. I was checking out this woman's quads the other day before I realized how weird that was. I kept going, still weird.

>>76497124
Nah Ive heard them say so

>>76494972
My chest hair grew in when I started working out this year.

>>76495242
I could tell that I was only 10-20 lbs away from being unable to wipe my own ass

>>76497257
Get yourself a bidet and an extra large pizza.

>>76497308
>spray dirty toilet water at ur anus

>>76497308
I lost 40 pounds since then but even if I lost 60 I’d still have to lose another 100 to not be fat anymore.

>>76497310
More hygienic than wiping it with paper.

ate a big plate of zoodles in a basic meat sauce. gave me watery shits, but boy was it yummy and filling

Was dubious decaf coffee would work as hunger suppressant but is doing good job so far.

>>76497495
Yeah it's actually great.

>ate over my bmr.
It's over for me.

mmm yummy >>76494829
the crab legs were only during dinner hours (they charge more for dinner) but I still had loads of steak, chicken, sashimi, clams, shrimp... and a few pieces of sushi as a cheat
I ate 3 plates of meat

I'm droppign weight quick, is it possible for me to put on muscle at the same time or nah not really

>>76497540
Lift weights and eat protein. Why not?

>>76497533
Hungrysex. you've bankrupt the place!

>>76495242
I have one month to drop 20 pounds before I meet with a baddie

>>76497540
fuck yeah its possible. I have been putting on muscle while losing weight for the last 6 months or so. I only recently started to stagnate with my lifts

>>76497543
>>76497546
I wasn't sure if even with enough protein it would just be a waste

Realistically how much muscle can you put on in terms of a weight a month?

I'm just curious what my body transformation will be like in lets say 2-3 months if I lift weights vs not

>>76497540
you don't need to be in a caloric surplus to gain muscle
the three important factors, in order are:
>muscle synthesis (resistance training)
>protein availability
>caloric surplus
you'll gain more muscle (not a lot more, but more) if you're bulking, but you can still make most of the progress as long as you eat enough protein and lift.

>>76497559
>>76497559
thanks anons

>>76497550
as a complete beginner you can gain 2-4lbs in a month
you need to eat like 150g of protein per day

>>76497550
Idk. Im 273 pounds. Down 60 pounds since year started. I started a weight training class about 30 pounds ago and every week on similar exercises like back squats, im lifting more than I did previously. Im eating my goal weight in protein x 0.8 so like 140g per day. But I guess you do more if you want more size.

>>76497550
>Realistically how much muscle can you put on in terms of a weight a month?
depends on genetics, how well you train, your current amount of muscle, etc

Best way to lift is you see how much you can lift and then keep doing it until you can lift more.

https://youtu.be/S1zR6HtIlyM?si=51G_-8-XkWqRXTX5

I, SHITper, biggest whore of the Outer Rim, humbly kneel to....

Crow-sama, my leader for so many years. I am sorry I had to (very poorly) work against you during your big invasion scheming. I will sell my soul to you in Hell.
Jackal-dono, Somehow my best friend. You are a rock and really the only one who will trust me now. I believe you should take over the reigns of leadership of Exotic. You are clearly more intelligent than I.
Rapi, no... Rapi-sama. I am sorry for helping Crow shoot commander and have him die slowly and also fuck you over constantly during the Ark Invasion. As penance, I will lick your pussy and prep it for Commander's cock whenever you want.
Anis
Sakura-sama, thank you for cucking me while we were at the beach. You are a better fit for commander's cock than I can ever dream. Underworld Queen are my heroes. Forgive me for staining the outer rim with my filth. You can order your men to do whatever they want to me.
Commander. My love. My first true love. Please forgive me for disregarding your kindness and screwing you over multiple times. You can manhandle me anytime you want, sex, blowjobs, handjobs, footjobs, hairjobs, anal sex, cuckqueen in any way. ANYTHING. I would do it!
And finally... Rosanna-SAMA, my true master. Please forgive me for saying that you were worse than me. You help the Outer Rim stay clean while I just endanger it and make it filthy with my presence. You can destroy all my phones if it makes you happy. If you are to ever have sex with Commander, as I know you do, please call on me and I can help prepare you for his cock, clean his runoff from you pussy, or just for me to serve as your personal servant. Please forgive me for acting cheeky and smug. I can only win by bullshit plot armor powers the writers give me from time to time....

>>76497597
Sir, this is a weight loss thread.

>>76497601
what was it?

>>76497621
My big stinky nuts on your chin

Bulking seems gross and gay. No i dont want to eat 6000 calories of protein and carbs and spent 5 hours in the gym per day

>>76497627
:[

>>76497629
being a twig is grosser

>>76497634
It should be this :[8 because my nuts are now on your chin

>>76497660
Wrong, women love skinny guys.
the same cannot be said about fat guys, unless ur "strong fat" and 6'4 which none of you are.

>>76497629
if you are in the fat thread you probably don't have to do all that. For me personally, bulking is the same as cutting but with just a little bit less austerity.

>>76497667
>women love skinny guys

>>76497672
have u seen how women obsess over that timothee actor guy? dude is literally build like that and he still gets puss like crazy

>>76497676
he has the face of a 15 year old. those women are pedos.

>>76497693
least obvious cope

man being a manlet and having a low TDEE sucks. We stopped for an ice cream cone last week and I thought I was being conscious by only getting one scoop when everybody else got more. Went home later and looked it up, and between the ice cream and the cone it was more than 1/4, damn near 1/3 of my daily calorie limit

>>76497706
How short are you and what's your TDEE?

>>76497706
I would eat the ice cream. Fuck it bro you arent fat because you participate in random trips to the ice cream parlor. You are fat because you over eat as a matter of routine. Like I know that every single day my lunch is only 400 calories and I don't eat breakfast. So its never a big deal if someone offers me some ice cream or a slice of pizza I will just enjoy it.

>>76497676
he's an ultra rich A list actor, what do you expect?

>>76497708
my tdee is like 1800 a day, maybe I could technically go a bit higher since I'm hitting 10k steps a day but I've been aiming for a 500 kcal deficit, and my weight loss has been very consistently 0.5 kg a week. So I reckon either I'm eating more than I think I am or 1800 is accurate

>>76497711
yeah I hope I get to the point where I can eat like a normal person and not feel guilty about it

I look fucking disgusting. At least when I was fat I was like a bear. Now I look like a fucking skinwalker with hanging loose skin everywhere. It hangs even around my dick. Jesus fucking Christ, if I ever find a gf, she would just barf while sucking me off.

>>76497719
>1800 a day
>ice cream and the cone it was more than 1/4, damn near 1/3 of my daily
Huh? Regular ice cream cone is around 100gr and 300kcal, not 500+

177.4kg -> 176kg (week)
Feeeels good on a Wednesday!

>>76497737
Sorry meant to be 167.4 -> 166kg

>>76497721
Women are retarded and you should not respect their opinions.

>>76497721
I pretty much always get blown on my back so you can do that

>>76497721
just get loose skin removal surgery

>>76497724
Yeah but that's for maintenance. For my deficit, I'm aiming for a total 1200 to 1300 a day. The ice cream was around 250 kcal, not counting the cone which I don't know how much that was.
Anyway I know I probably didn't go over maintenance for the day, but it's just annoying because it didn't even feel like THAT much of an indulgence, and yet if I did that more than a couple times a week I'd be treading water

>>76497752
> For my deficit, I'm aiming for a total 1200 to 1300 a day.
sounds awful, u also have yet to answer how short u are
are u like a turbomanlet or a woman?

>>76497746
>just slice your skin off, bro
>it's cool, bro, we'll just staple you back together
>that'll be $12,000.31, plus tip please

>>76497760
Okay then what other alternative do you propose?

>>76497764
There are none. Doesn't mean surgery is a good potion only because it's the only option.

>>76497764
>collagen maxing
>focus on building muscle to fill in the gaps
>laser tightening
>cryo therapy

>>76497764
Nta but I plan to roid after losing a lot of weight to fill out my skin

>>76497721
Shouldn’t have been so lazy and started to lose weight before you got so massive

I have been consistently surprised by just how shitty most fruit I try is.
>S tier - pineapple
>A tier - strawberries, kiwis, oranges, mangoes,
>B tier - raspberries (too expensive), peaches, bananas, guava, soursop (impossible to find), starfruit, grapefruit
> C tier - papayas, pomegranates, cherries, grapes (I don't like them), apples, blackberries
> D tier - honeydew / cantalopes (flavorless)
> F- dogshit tier - watermelon and dragonfruit

I lost my shit today when I spent $12 on a costco fruit platter that had honeydew, cantalopes, mango, and pineapple and all of it tasted like fucking nothing except the pineapple

>>76497829
ur supposed to eat for nutrition not for taste

>>76497829
shit taste

>>76497836
that sounds miserable and retarded

>>76497846
stop gaslighting yourself and eat actual fruit
"watermelon flavor" or "dragonfruit flavored" drinks taste nothing like the actual fruit
most fruit is flavorless or a pain in the ass to eat

>>76497829
The issue with the apples is definitely the variety. It may help for you to cut them into slices instead of just biting into them. Also try eating apple slices with cheese, it's so great.

>>76497855
You're legitimately fucked in the head for saying that watermelon has no flavor, but alright, more for the rest of us.

>>76497829
The only one of those fruits a normal person might consider to "taste like nothing" is dragonfruit, which has a very mild citrus-like taste to it and is probably more populad because of how it looks than its actual taste.

Mango in particular has a very strong and distinct taste, which is further attenuated by the scent of ethereal oils it gives off.
Honeydew is very sweet.

Either the fruit you bought was some GMO shit engineered to be big and watery (give organic fruit a try) or your tastebuds are fucked.

>>76497829
You’re probably just getting bad fruit. Cantaloupe is only flavorless if you buy one that isn’t ripe or is bad quality. Farmers markets in the summer are the best places to get good ones. Ask a worker to pick one for you.

>>76497893
I’ve only had one dragonfruit and it was extremely flavorful. Wait no I’m thinking of passionfruit.

>>76497829 #
The only one of those fruits a normal person might consider to "taste like nothing" is dragonfruit, which has a very mild citrus-like taste to it and is probably more populad because of how it looks than its actual taste.

Mango in particular has a very strong and distinct taste, which is complemented by the scent of ethereal oils it gives off.
Honeydew is very sweet.

Either the fruit you bought was some GMO shit engineered to be big and watery (give organic fruit a try) or your tastebuds are fucked.

>>76497829
Fruits taste heavenly when you don't eat sugary shit

>fruits taste really good dude you just have to buy these NON GMO ORGANIC special variants that are only available in the summer for 2 weeks and cost $25 an apple
I think im going to stick to ground beef and sugar free soda, thanks

all this talk abt fruit is making me want an apple despite already reaching my daily intake
u guys suck

>>76497829
>all of it tasted like fucking nothing except the pineapple
either your tastebuds are fucked or the fruit was unripe

>>76497912
>I think im going to stick to ground beef and sugar free soda
as long as it isn't sugar, which is probably why you're like this in the first place
try eating them again when your palate returns to normal

>>76497829
Don't worry, some more detox from your slop addiction and you'll start to taste things again. Give it time.

Food is starting to taste bad. I have no idea what is happening. I normally love cottage cheese and it taste like crap.

oh well, new PR on Leg curl.
I tried the leg press for the first time. Very scary, I was very worried I would snap myself when I lost control of the weights. I have no idea why it was harder than the seated leg press machine. I was topping out at 280 and getting knee issues. On the leg press I kept adding 45s. Including bar I did
307lbs x 12 reps
352 x 12
397 x 14
437 x 14
437 x 15
I was able to go deeper than I could with the machine too. Had some butt flare, but I am not too worried about it as my back isn't complaining.

Is this normal or was my gut (or something) just getting in the way too much for the seated version.

Is it a fat thing or muscle thing that allows you to jiggle your quad and it keeps going? I can't jiggle my fat in any other area outside of the gross ripple stuff.

At least I only have 500 calories to go for today and my protein is already taken care of. Good days are good.

Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 110.8 kg

Overall progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9erLsEHAZRI

>>76498011
Youll be breaking 110kg soon. Congrats and keep it up. Always a pleasure to see your number go down when I check this thread, even if your feet are gross.

Alright I put on 30 pounds in about a month through bulking, most of it being muscle thanks to taking test.

How can I power drop this weight? Carnivore and cardio?

>>76498018
Thanks. WAGMI.

>>76498022
post bod

>>76497717
women don't fantasize about his money dumbass, they wanna fuck him.

>>76498022
Lmao you stupid fat shit

>>76498022
cardio is a meme
you need to eat a shitload of protein and still be in a deficit
if you want to lose it as fast as possible then yes carnivore is your best bet but you'll feel like shit if you haven't done keto before
you only need to reach your daily protein target and eat enough fat to not feel like shit, figure out a plan at your TDEE - 500 calories or 800+ calories if you're trying to lose it asap

>Mister Bones
>I want to get off your wild ride

Honestly though, I know they don't matter in the grand scheme of things, as the general trend is going down, but why the fuck do these happen?
The first one makes sense as I was eating at a restaurant, but the other 2 I have no reason for.
They're kind of fucking with my mental a little, yeah it's nice to lose a lot in one day, but then not having any progress for a week or so after is demoralizing, plus the intervals seem to be getting larger. Would much prefer a smoother trend.

Fatty Contest
justaguy
106.4 kg

Gents I’m looking to start an ECA stack. What am I in for? Getting Bronkaid tomorrow

>>76498242
>why the fuck do these happen?
It's still unclear. Earlier hypothesis was that fat cells fill up temporarily with water when the actual fat disappears but apparently that was debunked. Now popular theory seems to be that it's just a stress reaction to caloric deficit which makes the body retain water for a while before adapting to a new normal.
Just stick with the plan, if the trend points downwards you're doing everything right.

>>76498273
>It's still unclear. Earlier hypothesis was that fat cells fill up temporarily with water when the actual fat disappears but apparently that was debunked. Now popular theory seems to be that it's just a stress reaction to caloric deficit which makes the body retain water for a while before adapting to a new normal.
Really interesting, thanks.
>Just stick with the plan, if the trend points downwards you're doing everything right.
Yeah I'll just have to focus on the trend and not get freaked out by local fluctuations on the graph.
I'm down 14 kgs in 67 days, so ~1.5 kg/week, so whatever I'm doing seems to be working rather well.
Thanks anon.

I bought zero sugar drank against

>>76498384
Against what?

>>76498242
No one knows, its a documented phenomenon but the mechanism by which it functions biologically isnt understood.

This is the common explanation people use but its biologically impossible for it to actually work like this, your fat cells cant actually fill with water.

>>76498387
I'm sorry. I wanted to say:
I bought it again

>>76498384
back to kohlshit

>>76498387
His best judgement.

>>76498422
didn't mean to post pic

Fatty Contest
LardLad
174.6 lbs

>>76498261
Largely overrated in my experience, it does suppress appetite and raise your HR but the downsides on my sleep were too much for it to be worth it to me.

>>76498384
Faggot

>>76497829
Watermelon can vary wildly, I used to think they were bland too, but I was just shit at picking out the sweet/flavorful ones, you have to know what to look for to pick the best ones. Takes awhile to get good as weighing the various factors to be able to pick out a good watermelon, you won't usually find a perfect watermelon that exhibits all the best traits at once so you have to know which are most important.

I go by webbing/spot > weight/roundness > dullness so first I try to find the melons with the most webbing and the most colorful field spot, that usually eliminates like half of them as you can instantly tell at a glance which will be flavorless watery shit as they have next to no webbing or their field spot is pale, once I've separated out all the pale spots and no webbing from there I try to pick the heaviest/roundest melon of them (most time consuming part picking up each melon and feeling for weight, a good melon should feel quite weighty) setting aside the heaviest (and typically also most round ones, weight and roundness usually go hand-in-hand, but not always) ones, if there are any melons left at this point I try to pick out the one with the dullest rind.

>>76497836
I do both. Its going to be hard to stick to a diet you don't enjoy.

>>76498520
I guess. I'm glad I find a salad of fresh tomatoes, cucumbers, bell peppers and onions, dressed with a greek yogurt - tasty. I can eat it every single day on lunch, with a piece of meat/chicken/fish.

>>76498520
niggas told this guy his food looked good 1 time and now he posts the same meal in every thread

>>76494953 (OP)
I wanna get to fuck the booby girls

>>76498560
Eat a thalad

>>76497836
skill issue if you can't find a way to satisfy both

I like pasta
Do I have to stop eating pasta? :(

>>76498568
Only if you can't fit it within your caloric deficit.

>>76498568
probably. fatass. you can do it again when it's bulk season. that means swearing off pasta for probably several months. can you do it, fatty? if you're jonesing you can have a bit of pasta as a treat on a maintenance break, but you have to earn those with hard weeks of no pasta.

or you can eat small amounts of pasta that fuck up your macros and don't fill you up and make you hungry in 2 hours, so your life sucks and your cut fails, but at least you stay under calorie limit. there's also that.

>>76498553
I make it everyday and I still love it.

>>76498582
nigga using the food setting on his android camera like he made some gourmet shit

>>76498568
No pasta.

weighed in today, and I've officially lost 10kg, boys!
The next round of chicken and broccoli is on me!

>>76498640
Very nice anon, keep it up

it is over.....

110kg > 72kg > 86 kg
Feel myself more fat, than when I was 110kg

>>76498645
it ain't over till the /fat/ lady sings

>>76497920
>all this talk abt fruit is making me want an apple despite already reaching my daily intake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFButPmlMFg&t=81s

>>76498568
Pasta really sucks for weight loss. Its not filling at all for how dense it is with calories making it super easy to overeat, and its pretty much just pure carbs, usually with minimal fiber and other nutrients. Even the whole grain pasta sucks. You can try to make it work by like having a tiny portion of it but even then its like are you really going to be satisfied with a forkful of spaghetti? Because if you want Pasta to fit in your macros one twirl of the fork is basically your serving size.

The binge demons are back

Good morning, frens. Stay strong.

>>76498581
>>76498657
>muh macros
I get CALORIES IN CALORIES OUT but then I get told YOUR MACROS NEED TO BE XYZ
How about I just kill myself
That'll be 100% weight loss

>>76498513
two top rightmost ones are the same watermelon

>>76497829
Anything melon related is awful and I don't know why people like it

>>76498699
>How about I just kill myself
That'll be 100% weight loss
Some are simply not meant to make it anon, your purpose is to fuel wagmi chads with motivation to become better. Thank you for your service

>>76498699
alright mouthbreathing ass nigga let me help you. you use energy to stay alive. your body has to move and break pieces of you down and build pieces of you from what you eat. in the simplest terms, if you put in less energy than you use, your body has to use stored energy, and it goes for fat first. that's cico.

but if you don't eat enough fat, your body can't make enough hormones among other things. if you don't eat enough protein, your body can't keep making more muscle among other things. if you don't eat enough carbs, you can be alright, but it can also have negative consequences for some people.

so, you watch WHAT YOU EAT and HOW MUCH YOU EAT OF IT. VERY SIMPLE. cico determines how much body you have. macros and activity determine the shape and composition of the body.

>>76498700
Protanopia

>>76498721
Man I just want the damn number to go down
I've already cut out junk food

If I can get hard I have eaten too much.

>>76498668
Hi hatboy, good to see you. I had a lot of vacation time, weightloss stalled, but no gains. That seems pretty good to me, I seem to be able to eat at maintenance even under tricky circumstances

How is planet fitness?
Should I not be cheap and pay an extra 40 a month for the nice and not purple coated local gym instead?

wow the fruit shills are out in full force huh?
No you're not going to convince me that watermelon tastes good, your argument is stupid and incredibly brownoid coded

>>76498657
>with a forkful
80gr of pasta is like 300kcal and it's a full plate after cooking. That's not the worst option, I ate pasta with eggs while on 1200kcal limit.

>>76498794
Hello Ur-o
Yeah, ive been losing slowly since father's day, the diet isnt as strict as it should be. I cap myself at 1500 but catch myself reaching near 1800 every now and then

At 190lbs now, down from 275.

While I'm thrilled that I can now do 4 to 6 chin-ups in a row, the video I recorded to check my form shocked me because of all the loose skin around my mid-section.

>>76498798
very location dependent, but it is fine. The worst part of it is that since everyone shit on them about the lunk alarm they stopped being "mean". Their weird rules are not enforced or at least enforced consistently. Outside of a squat rack they have everything you want and everything you need.

I would recommend the black card membership (if it is in the budget) as I believe the red light therapy has been keeping my skin tighter. They call it full body something. Could be placebo or I could be a bot trying to sell you shit.

If you have questions about culture or the weird rules I can tell you lot.

>>76498928
Doesn't look too bad, it should tighten up considerably if you've just got the weight off. Takes about a year for the skin to adapt to your new size.

Is my % of calories eaten throughout the day being fat typically going to be high. This is me after eating a 30g protein breakfast burrito that uses 93% lean ground beef and some 2% cheddar as filler (also an egg and 1 bacon strip). Feels like ti keep fat calories down you can only eat fruit, vegetables, or chicken breast all day

Creatine day 13. Finally back down to my low weight. Its pretty consistent with me gaining between 4 and 5lbs of water weight, as my weight loss has averaged around 2.2lbs per week.

Excited to be making some new lows in the coming days. Im 216 now and aiming for 200lbs before a trip in mid October

>>76498946
>bacon

>>76498954
Bro I have lost a lot of weight. Im not going to stop eat pork bacon.

>>76498946
You'd be surprised. Because fat is so calorie dense, even something like chicken breast has 21% of its calories from fat

>>76498946
Yeah. It is what it is. Most calories will be fat and carbs. It's a density thing. Thats just where most calories are.

>>76495580
lost 0.4kg today

>>76498946
Protein and Carbohydrates are 4 calories per gram, fats are 9 calories per gram.

So yes, fats will often be much higher because they are inherently more caloric than the other two.

>>76498928
>>76498937
Should take collagen peptides, vitamin C, and use retinol cream while buikding muscle.

It'll be work, but that definitely looks like it can be filled in with hard work and smart skin care.

Opinions on giving yourself radiation sickness to improve aesthetics?

>>76499037
I've seen the studies for collagen peptides (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jocd.12174) and vitamin C (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15825810/), but do you have anything that proves or suggests Retinol cream is actually efficacious for tightening loose skin? I couldn't find anything from a credible source.

Poopmaxxing is the truth

>try to make something different on carnivore
>it comes out looking like literal slop

>>76497829
>>A tier - strawberries
only if they are the expensive kind. low priced kind are usually shit.

>oranges
meh I'd put em in C-D

>grapefruit
going to F just because I hate bitter shit

>grapes/papayas
going to A tier. Papayas only if you find a ripe one which is rare.

>honeydew / cantalopes
going to B tier for me

>watermelon
A tier because it's good for weight loss

Those mixed fruit platters are a waste of money, you don't know if they are ripe or not

>>76499158
Experiments often come out bad, but its fun to play around in the kitchen and try new things.

How did it taste? What were the macros? What can you do to improve it next time?

>>76497676
This is the most blackpill you fat fucks/roidheads. you need to twink max and look like a cute e-boy to get women drooling over you.

>>76499158
Looks like something that is supposed to be eaten with rice

it's lift o'clock

and learn to caramelize the onions
don't eat boiled onion

>>76499215
it's supposed to be a cuban dish called "ropa vieja" which is shredded beef cooked with vegetables in a tomato sauce and then served over rice
except I didn't have half of the ingredients, realized too late, and kept going anyways.

>>76499182
>How did it taste
it still came out good, I was supposed to use a can of puree'd tomatoes and some peppers (neither of which I had) so instead I used a shitload of paprika and a can of diced tomatoes. I've had it before at restaurants and it tasted way more meaty than what I ended up with.

>What were the macros
no idea, shit load of protein though. I'm using this to get rid of a dirt cheap 3 pound bottom round roast so besides the tomatoes + fat the dish is 95% lean meat.
I cooked 1.5 pounds worth of meat this way so that's everything I'm eating for today

>What can you do to improve it next time?
follow the instructions

>>76499158
That looks really tasty anon, what are you talking about

I weigh around 150 kg and am around 1.95 m tall. I have already lost almost 20 kg. My calculated calorie intake is around 2900 kcal. However, I usually only consume around 2000 kcal. Is it really so bad that I am satisfied with the fewer calories? I find it a bit difficult to force myself to consume the remaining amount by stuffing myself with more food.

>go to the gym for the first time in 5 days after getting dumped
>feel great
>OK Im gonna get a drink at this new barcade and go to the movies
>drink 5 drinks and eat trendies at movies
>probably like 1.5k calories and feel hungover today because I'm old as fuck now
How do I stop being self destructive?

>>76499330
>Is it really so bad that I am satisfied with the fewer calories?
1. why would it be bad? (you might be miscounting your tdee)
2. enjoy it while it lasts

>>76499330
>Is it really so bad that I am satisfied with the fewer calories?
No, your body will slow down your metabolism during extended periods of lower calorie consumption.
In the meantime you'll also be losing loads of fat. You'll get hungrier the lower bodyfat% you get down to.

>>76499341
I'm afraid you're... retarded.
It is terminal.

>>76499341
Quitting alcohol would be a good first step. Alcohol has a ton of calories, and impairs your decision making abilities leading to situations like this where you make a series of poor choices in a row.

>>76499384
this is my experience with alcohol too. early on it led directly to two days where i not only went over restrictions but several hundred calories over maintenance. stopped after that. lately i've had a couple beers here and there and while i haven't gone over calories, it can really fuck my macros for the day and impact my sleep. generally should be done carefully or not at all on a cut phase

>>76499158
That looks like a romanian food called tocanita, it looks like a pile of hot shit but it tastes amazing

>>76499402
romanian food is in general not the prettiest but it looks like it tastes good regardless

>>76499341
you don't have to quit alcohol unless you're legitimately an alcoholic. I just plan my drinks beforehand, "okay I will have 2 pints of beer, that's 400 calories. And then I will eat x y z, so my total calories for the day will not exceed my goal."

But if you're using it to cope with a breakup that's another issue, find better coping mechanisms

>>76499417
Any amount of alcohol is bad for you, ruins your sleep and makes you a stupid cum brain.

>>76499427
>and makes you a stupid cum brain.
Alcohol kills my libido

beer was one of my few pleasures in life, even dipped my toes into homebrewing, but I just can't afford the empty calories on my deficit. I went from one a day, to one every couple of weeks. Okay, admittedly a few more when I go out.

Breakfast
Rye bread with cold smoked chicken breast, tea with stevia - 270kcal
Lunch
Vegetable salad with greek yogurt, two frankfurters - 450 kcal
Dinner
Rye bread with liver patte, banana, zero soda - 410kcal

>>76499427
sharing a couple drinks with some friends, it's good for the spirit. Just don't get hammered or let it interfere with your deficit

Everything is so much in calories what the hell are you supposed to eat? Chicken and literally nothing?

>>76499463
Chicken, turkey, some beef cuts, some pork cuts, tuna, shrimp, all sorts of veggies.

>>76499463
>what the hell are you supposed to eat?
food?

Another day, another workout. Make suee to get one in /fng/

WAGMI

>>76499463
If anything it's the opposite, once you have basic food knowledge and a shred of willpower, calories are extremely easy to manage. You can have a sizeable amount of junk food daily and still lose weight as long as you aren't pounding beers or American meme milkshakes.

>>76499463
Chicken and Broccoli (aka Lean Protein and Cruciferous Vegetable)

Pick something on the left and pair it with something on the right. Give yourself a budget of like 1800~1500 calories a day, eat a minimum of ~120g of protein, ~40g of fat a day. Eat mostly whole foods, limit how much processed food you eat, and its that easy.

>>76499463
Just lift more. All the constant bitching about not being able to eat this and that leads me to believe the majority of you people are probably crash dieting and doing bear minimum cardio and praying that will be enough to save you. Not only is is not, but it's entirely unsustainable, you're just going to get fat again because you can't conceive of a life where you just eat like a normal human and not a humanoid pig creature.

>>76499463
the eggs got cut off.

>>76499509
the /fat/ thread is bitchy, ahhhhh.
There are only about a dozen things you can say in this thread
>bitch
>win
>CICO
>fuck off faster
>post body
the other half dozen is variations on the above.

what the fuck do you want? Nobody here wants to talk about if muscles are a good glutogen store to prevent diabetes. We don't have real discussions here. It is a support thread. It would be super cool if we did, but people here are mostly here to vent and feel supported.

>>76499509
Normal humans eat so little food though. I don't think I'd ever be satisfied with normie portions. I've got to find hacks to bulk out my meals with tons of volume or else I'm constantly hungry. 2kg of broccoli and chug 2L of water, yep, that's what it takes to make me feel like I ate a meal.

>>76499534
>the eggs got cut off
Congrats on the transition?????????

>>76499534
>dat macro ratio
chat is this real?

>>76498728
i mean that is the same watermelon, retard. the stain is the same shape and the stripes are the same too

>>76499541
still natty if I am FtM. Suck my inverted vagina.

>>76499546
391 g for the eggs if somebody want to do the math.

>>76499546
nothing special

>>76499546
My protein powder ice cream has a similar ratio.

>>76499536
Become a normal person with muscles.
>muscles = higher caloric demand to sustain them
>no muscles = lower caloric demand to sustain fat

>>76494953 (OP)
Stupid question probably, but when the package of a say 500g cut of meat says 200 calories per 100g, it means the ENTIRE thing, fat included, is 1000 calories, right?
So if you don't eat the rendered fat, and you didn't cook it in butter or oil or whatever, then the calories is actually less than 1000?

I've always counted the rendered fat as if I had eaten it, and I will continue to do so, but that is correct right?

>140.2lbs
FUCK
i *feel* less fat though...

>>76499619
Technically, sure. But you don't really know how much fat was included and how much of it was rendered out, so it's better so stay on the safe side and count all of it.

>>76499627
Manlets, when will they learn...

Anyone else start getting brown streaks in the underwear after some weight loss. It hasn't been a problem until very recently and it has only been occasional, but frankly occasional is too much.

I'm going to start taking creatine tomorrow. I just read about loading to get it started faster which involves taking 20-25 grams a day for 7 days before dropping to 5g a day. I expect to gain some weight but how much unsightly bloating can I expect?

>>76499536
one of the benefits of fasting is that it shrinks your stomach so, over time, those tiny portions will inevitably begin to fill you up. part of the problem is psychological, in other words you've got "eyes bigger than your stomach" and you've gotta change the way you view food.

>>76499635
What does this mean? I'm six foot

>>76499701
>one of the benefits of fasting is that it shrinks your stomach
It doesn't.

>doing shopping
>check out blackcurrant "juice" that I used to drink in the BC (Before CICO) era
>only 20kcal per 100ml
>wow, nice, I can drink this
>read the ingredients
>packed full of sucralose
oh
I see

NEXT
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>>76499713
incorrect.

>>76499384
I turn 31 on Saturday. Strongly considering quiting for the remainder of my life because it's only made my life worse

>>76499758
I'm 35, I quit when I was 33 and my life improved immeasurably. I never would have lost the weight I've lost so far if I didnt quit.

>>76495286
Sorry for dumb question, but how do you keep HR so low? I tried starting running (C25K day 1), but didn't manage to rest enough in 1 minute so I took bit longer, and was quickly winded. Even when I just walk its around 125 bpm.