Thread 76516249

How do you train willpower? Serious question.

Look into how habits are formed and broken.
Atomic Habits is a good starting point. Hell, the audiobook is free on youtube.

>>76516249 (OP)
>how do I train willpower?
Unironically do things that you dont like doing. I have found that endurance activities work quite well. Willpower is controlled by ONE part of the brain. When you train it by doing stuff you dont want to do, it makes EVERYTHING else easier. Andrew Huberman has a good vid on the topic.

>>76516249 (OP)
God, she was so hot. Watch Earth Girls are Easy.

>>76516249 (OP)
What a pretty woman

>>76516249 (OP)
Beat these games

>>76516249 (OP)
tell yourself "dont be a pussy" until you've shamed yourself into doing the thing you need to do.
consciously build your sense of esteem and personality around being a person who does what they are supposed to do.
talk to a trusted friend and say "i'm being lazy as shit, please tell me to do the thing i need to do" and let them yell at you and shame you / psyche you up.

>>76516249 (OP)

Start by practicing small intentional actions. For example: "I'm going to touch every tree when I walk down this street", or: "I will hold my toothbrush with my left hand."

Do things that you don't normally do, but are low effort, require a conscious exercise in intentionality, and are expressed through action.

Build up from there.

>>76516249 (OP)
By training yourself to endure discomfort. Start small - do one thing a day that you don't want to do and increase incrementally from there. Don't beat yourself up if you're not immediately perfect, and don't allow yourself to quit.

One thing that helps for me is to imagine that I'm trying to teach a child how to do the thing that I want to do, so I set a good example and demonstrate the correct way to do it. I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish but hopefully this helps.

>>76516249 (OP)
Do static holds like planks and prolonged like rooning.

>>76516249 (OP)
Stop your dopamine addiction.
Put the phone down

>>76516327
strong agree

>>76516348
wtf is that a real kitten???

>>76516249 (OP)
The easy way is just to abolish a lot of the thinking that comes before doing. It's surprising how much bullshit is just the trappings of thinking about it too much.

You can't. There is a reason that the marshmello test is insanely predictive of life outcomes. Its even more predictive than IQ tests.

>>76516312
I mean habits are not increasing your willpower. The main point of that book is to design your environment and lifestyle in such a way as to minimize your need for willpower.

>>76516249 (OP)
Okay we all know science is for women, so I'll tell you my esoteric method. Not only will it make you have higher power, it will make you nonchalant. So basically, for the next month, take cold showers. When you get in the water too, act like you are still in hot water, no shivering no oughhing you feel me? Idk if there's any physical benefits for this shit, but it worked for me

I learned it from the military not by them giving me pointless tasks to do, but by filling up my schedule. I had to do every task no matter what by the time i was supposed to have done it.

>>76516663
Guess what dipshit, that takes incremental amounts of willpower. It's training wheels to get you into the right mindset. There is no trick to willpower. It comes from doing things you don't want to do or generally living a hard life. Just fucking start small.
>>76516706
Hey retard, there is nothing esoteric about that. It's scientific. You're subjecting yourself to something that raises you're cortisol levels. Done habitually, you develop a greater tolerance to stress. "Science is for women," nigger, shut the fuck up.

>>76516249 (OP)
don't overthink willpower as a concept

It's just habit. It's not magic, it's not a trait you have that lets you push through literally everything intentionally. It's just habit.

THe more frequently you do something, the more frequently you'll continue to do it and the less you'll think about it - so you won't be able to reconsider. Don't beat yourself up for not doing something too much, but schedule it intentionally and recognize that you've scheduled it so it can become a pattern.

Don't think of the pain or exhaustion of the thing you'll have to do. Don't think of the shame for not doing it. Just think, just like brushing your teeth "I really should do this". It starts and ends there.

>>76516249 (OP)
progressive overload and rest.

>>76516249 (OP)
You shadow box your urges
Imagine or literally start shadow boxing anytime you are about to do wrong/something you don't want to do.

>>76516846
>it's not a trait you have
>The more frequently you do something, the more frequently you'll continue to do it
i.e., it is in fact a trait, and you can develop it. Neural pathways are strengthened through use.
>Don't think
thoughtless action, mental or physical, is a tier of ability that you achieve after long practice. If you're struggling, you must think about your form and what you're doing.

>>76516249 (OP)
NoFap and NoPorn

>>76516825
>calling me dipshit
>entirely missed the central point of the book

Just go in your back yard and slam your head against the fence to build your willpower turbo fucking brainlet

>>76516312
>>76516321
These. It will help with discipline. If it's the last thing you do, it is making it to the gym for instance. Doing things you once did not want to do repetitively is now the normal routine. Now you have a new monkey on your back, probably for the better right?

>>76516825
*Your
Mr. Scientist

>>76517017
that shit does not work for me. The more I do something the more I don't want to do it. I have literally made my bed every morning for the past 431 days and I still have a burning hatred inside of me for the routine. My spirit rebels against routine harder and harder. It cannot be broken

>>76516249 (OP)
>force yourself to do thing you don't want to do
>force yourself to do thing you don't want to do even when it's not convenient to do thing
>keep forcing yourself to do thing you don't want to do until you don't have to force yourself anymore because you just do it
I'm not some stoic jocko willink master but I've lifted having 2 hours sleep the night before (ever been lifting weights looking at the bench thinking "I could curl up on that bench and sleep right now"?). I've lifted while hung the fuck over. I've lifted having had no food that day. https://youtu.be/M46plNiZReM?t=20

>>76516249 (OP)
You have to hang heavy weights from your nutsack until you learn to enjoy it

>>76516249 (OP)
>>76516312
I've always heard it takes doing something seven days in a row to make it a habit or a routine.

>>76516249 (OP)
By thinking about the end result. You can’t get lost in the misery of the process. You just be patient and put in the work.

>>76516348
Anon if I was that small wwyd

>>76516249 (OP)
Progressive overload

>>76517342
i'd suck your itty bitty weenis

You don't. If your body doesn't want to do something, there're good reasons for that

>>76516249 (OP)
Having shame or being occupied with more important things in life such as work or whatever.

Doing increasingly difficult shit and NEVER bitch about it.
I thought I had a strong will until I had to carry 1 square cube of concrete from the 4th floor through intense rain AFTER my full time job, with no food in my stomach. My palms had bloody blisters by the time I was done, and some fucker (me due to dusty eyeglasses and tiredness) fissured a water pipe so I then had to urgently crawl through a muddy basement to stop the running water, repair the pipe then crawl again to restart the water.
It wouldn't even have been so bad but I did it in a rush and had no gloves on, so my paranoia hit me very hard that day since I had the bloody blisters and crawled through the muddy basement, all I kept thinking about was fucking viruses and whatever.

Everything I've done after that day seemed like vacation.

>>76517495
kek i would've just paid some blue collar retard to do this shit for me

>>76517497
I guess being a retard like myself helps with willpower.
I keep saying there aren't bigger retards than me, the world literally does not produce bigger retards, there's not enough resources to produce such retardation anymore, too costly on the simulation

>>76516249 (OP)
Delayed gratification.

>>76516249 (OP)
You gotta want it
And if you think you want it but you aren't putting in the effort then you don't want it bad enough
It's that simple
There is no cheat code

>>76516249 (OP)
The papers that I've seen surrounding this topic generally state that the belief in infinite willpower exerts greater measurable effects in opposition to holding the belief that your willpower is limited.

It's kind of similar to how if teachers believe in genetic intelligence they teach measurably worse and fuck their students up when compared to teachers who believe anyone can grow with the right training.

>>76518955
But is that a good thing?

Like, it is pretty clear that someone has genetics for a certain sport from a young age, like explosive athletes being good at shorter distances.

Sure you can train anyone to be explosive to an extent, but it is very inefficient, so is it a good idea?

Same thing applies to school, a teacher may believe anyone can learn with the right education, but this may not be true and very inefficient. The returns on this may be low, and the specific application the teacher has to apply can be a detriment towards the growth of more suitable (intelligent) students.

So of course, believe your willpower is unlimited, but I wanted to critique your example. A better example would be how counting reps would limit your performance. Or how you can always do more than you think. And even with these examples, is it worth it? Having a little more oomph, with very little returns, and with a very high "excitation" requirement. Building your life in a way that willpower is used efficiently (or not at all), is much easier Imo.

>>76516249 (OP)
i've got a lot out of 30-30-30, which stands for 30 grams protein folllowed by 30 minutes of exercise within 30 minutes of getting up

>>76516249 (OP)
do hard stuff, have hard to reach goals, so hard that you'll most likely fail
then keep trying until you get it

>>76518980
yes, it's a good thing. eugenics is dumb and nobody wants to live in a society without any upward mobility.

>>76517495
physique goals desu

>>76516249 (OP)
long walks in the mountains
slowly increase the total distance, height difference and technicality of your routes

>>76516249 (OP)
Step one: turn off your phone
Step two: leave it off

>>76516574
As soon as I read your post, I put my phone down. I picked it up again about 8 minutes later, but I think I might get one of those "screen time awareness" apps

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>>76517466
Lmaoooo