Thread 76572685

Reminder that your big muscles are useless and pointless if you only have gym strength, but your general mobility and functional strength are lacking.

>>76572685 (OP)
reminder that your functional strength and mobility are useless and pointless if you get no bitches because you are ugly and your aesthetics are lacking

>>76572685 (OP)
>>76572692

>>76572685 (OP)
>strong guy who practices a specific movement with a specifically shaped weight is better at the movement than strong guys who don’t practice it
Dude, you just blew my mind! What the FUCK am I going to do next time I need to twirl a giant bowling pin behind my shoulder?

>>76572685 (OP)
What is the function of that movement?

>>76572692
>>76572698
>>76572715
>>76572764
found the powerlards with atrophied shoulders

>>76572685 (OP)
Are there these things you can put pl8s into?

>>76572983
>T.

>>76572764
>>76572983
Well? What's the function of that movement?

>>76572715
>What the FUCK am I going to do next time I need to twirl a giant bowling pin behind my shoulder?
That's part of a regression pattern to train throwing movements.

>>76573012
Throwing patterns
https://youtu.be/0fm3VX0iKnA?feature=shared

>>76572685 (OP)
Key word here:
Training.

>>76572698
What am I looking at here?

>>76573012
picking up oddly balanced very heavy objects. It differs from something like a barbell that is perfectly balanced.

The biggest gains are neuromuscular adaptations that you likely barely even feel while doing it. A large portion of the gains are coming from transverse plane movement, which is heavily underutilized in lifting. We primarily lift in the saggital plane and very few people train the frontal plane, and then even fewer train transverse plane.

These are kinesiology concepts if you want to learn more about it.

>>76573042
Good point. Most people never think past sagittal plane work, so anything forcing stability in the transverse plane feels foreign but builds control fast. Odd objects basically force the body to recruit stabilizers you don’t hit with barbells. That neuromuscular carryover shows up in real-world strength way more than a clean, balanced lift does.

>>76573042
What are the benefits of transverse plane movement?

>>76573047
the better real world translation would be daily life, like bending over and twisting and living a heavy object in your shed.

If you train primarily in the saggital plane, all saggital plane muscles in that movement are going to be able to lift that weight, but your transverse plane muscles that keep you from snapping your shit aren't, so when you successfully lift it up with your saggital plane muscles, you then have to utilize your transverse muscles for stability, but they aren't trained and your spine snaps in half.

>>76573052
it stabilizes every one of your ball joints and your spine, and allows these structures to accept oddly balanced weights.

It is far better for your body to do a suitcase carry than a farmer's carry, if you're looking at the biggest bang for your buck.

>>76573039
Indian man with no chin taking photos of a random woman on the train

>>76572685 (OP)
Who do you think you are mike tyson?

>>76572685 (OP)
Are clubs like the new kettlebells?

>>76573054
Precisely, that’s the disconnect between gym strength and functional resilience. Sagittal dominance creates prime mover strength, but without sufficient recruitment in the transverse plane you’re missing the stabilizing musculature that resists shear and torsional forces. Odd-object or rotational training essentially conditions those neuromuscular pathways so the spine and hips can handle asymmetrical loads without compensatory breakdown. That’s why it translates more directly to injury prevention in “real-world” movements than perfectly balanced barbell work.

>>76572685 (OP)
functional strength is made up cope for weaklings.

>>76573066
That is correct. You have a choice: the saarpill or the comradepill.

>>76573063
Still confused. I gathered after re-watching a bunchof times, thats his phone we see the screen of...but whos taking the video? The girl we see at the end?

>>76573034
and what's the function of this? When are you going around throwing clubs at people?
But I when I was 12 I thought that was a cool thing to learn in case I got in a kung fu fight too.

>>76573060
I'm not a farmer and my suitcase has these little wheels on it.
I can however bench 3 plates.

>>76573084
Yes anon, the caption reads "this guy is taking photos of me on the train rn" and it's recording the man scrolling on the phone with a clear photo of a woman's arm to some forest pic, then it turns to the frontal camera of the same device and shows a woman, with the picture at the end being the chinless indian wonder

>>76573060
That's cool and all but that still doesn't answer my question, what's the function for? What's it good for? Ok sure stability, cool, stability for what? Better sports performance? Immense majority of athletes get most of their development from skill training, lifting weights and plyometrics, is it good for carrying objects like your sofa or your fridge if you're moving? Those objects are heavy so strength training will still have a higher carry over than something for stability.
A movement like that might have some benefits im not saying it doesn't but what are those benefits? What's it gonna make your more stable for?

>>76573085
It allows you to progressively overload throwing by increasing weight, lever length and weight distribution

>>76573099
And what's the function of throwing bowling pins around?

>>76572698
>Ugh. This creep was taking pictures of me in a public space.
>Films him, and posts the video, and his picture online.
Oh, women.

>>76572685 (OP)
This is not functional strength versus non-functional strength. It's circus trick performer versus strong guys. The latter group just needs to get a feeling for the unga bunga pins and will be outperforming the guy with functional ""strength"" in a matter of a few hours.

>>76573099
Impressive collection of dildos.

>>76573099
>Throwing
You mean like shot put throwers? Because im pretty sure Ryan crouser only lifts heavy and explosive with barbells and practice throwing.

>>76573109
Its just dyel cope. You never hear jacked guys talking about gay shit like "functional strength", only weaklings.

>>76573078
that guy is actually kinda jacked and cool looking

>>76573109
>>76573119
>>76573146
this is (You) btw

>>76573198
As a 2pl weighted chin-upper i know dat feel

>>76572698
That woman is enjoying the power she has over him. If he but asked for her to pee in his mouth she probably would’ve done it

Jeets are getting desperate.

>>76573239
>hey thailor!

>>76573078
Early Pavel was fucking cool.
>>76573252
FUCKING HAHAHAHAHA

>>76573101
good scapuhumeral rhythm
>>76573129
More like javelin or just using any other sort of lever tool like a pickaxe or hammer

>90kg of pure muscle
>couldn't pull himself up a ledge if his life depended on not falling or running from a dog

>>76573066
No. Kettlebells deal in thrusting/forward motion. Clubbells and Mace deal in the lateral plane of motion.

>>76573435
Pedantically, you CAN do roll and yaw with kettlebells (inside and outside cleans) and you CAN do pitch with clubs (swipes) but yes: generally kettlebells are for pitch/hinge and clubs are for yaw/rotation

>>76572685 (OP)
>muh functional strength!
>vid of dude swinging random shit around
I don’t think you know what functional strength is anon…

>>76573042
Fucking nerd

Am I wrong in thinking the basic barbell movements would build function strength? Like just get strong

>>76573608
Barbell movements are best for general strength which has some carry over. Lever work is good for rotational and unilateral work. Do both

>>76573613
No, I think I prefer some level of ideological extremism in all of my hobbies.

>>76573608
Correction: Get big
Strength isn't super useful.
Being able to utilize what you have in a variety of situations is much better

>>76573643
Cool. Kinda makes sense.

>>76573702
Muscle mass just does a lot for you.
Even if you like strength, bigger muscles give you more room to get stronger.
Bigger muscles help decrease general injuries.
You also just get to eat more since muscle mass requires more calories.
If you're keto/low-carb it's a cheat code because bigger muscles absorb more sugar for glycogen.
Helps mood and mentals.
Helps regulate hormones
that's why skinny bitches are always neurotic and muscle-mommies just like being mired.

>>76573710
It all goes back to just getting jacked, juicy, and shredder

>>76573622
kek this

>>76572715
big =! strong

>>76573092
>What's it gonna make your more stable for?
Nta but everything. The point isn't to replace standard strength training, but to move the joint under reasonable load through make all kinds of various and potentially awkward positions, this should in theory make it healthier and more stable at all times. This is good for both gym lifting and everyday life where you usually do movements at weird angles that are unlike the gym variants. And in general you should become limber/stretchier(?) which just feels good.

>>76573066
Are they going mainstream now? They’ve been the staple lift in Iranian zurkhaane (strength houses) for hundreds if not thousands of years

>>76572685 (OP)
Just walk with heavy shit, do some farmers walks or go hiking with a heavy pack once in a while and it's probably all the function you need, same with mobility, maybe some stretches for your shoulders, knees or lower back so you dont end up couchridden in your old age and thats all the stretching you need, if you WANT to be a slender yoda dude sure, but the average person/trained lifter doesn't need anymore to keep their basic ''functional strength'' or mobility, and if you want to be the biggest purist, the ''true'' human form should be a skinny guy who can chuck spears and rocks really good so functional lifters should really be doing that if they wanna talk about how we should train

>>76574253
>movements at weird angles that are unlike the gym variants
such as what retard? answer the fucking question. moving a fridge? no. sports? no. moving a couch? no. what the fuck is this shit good for. give just 3 examples of movements at weird angles you do in every day life that should be specifically trained for.

>>76573159
Go to bed, Pavel.

>>76574391
>moving a fridge?
yes
>sports?
yes
>moving a couch?
yes
Literally every movement you do irl is at a weird angle compared to a bench or a shoulder press. The point isn't to train *for* that one movement they do with the mace, but that said mace movement just trains the shoulder in a range of motion that prepares it quite well for other different positions, and there's different mace swings and shit to make sure you hit all the stabilizers and get good strength+mobility combo in the joint.

The same way swimming makes your shoulders feel good outside the pool and is used for both rehab and prehan even though you never actually do a swimming motion in other parts of life.

>>76574391
Also I'm not the anon you had been talking with before you should stop being a and insulting random people online when they're trying to be helpful to you tyvm.

>>76574670
what a load of shite. as the other anon said, strength training will have a far better carryover for moving large objects, and if you're training for a specific sport you just do skill training alongside strength training, just like every fucking real athlete in the world. any strong man will have no issue moving a fridge or a couch despite the fact he doesnt do your retarded exercises.

if you wanna do your faggy little bowling pin exercises go ahead. the rest of us are gonna do tried and true exercises that professional athletes do. dont come here bragging about your functional strength when you're just a faggot playing with a bowling pin.

>>76573104
Are you retarded?

>>76573104
you thought you did something there

>>76574391
>give just 3 examples of movements at weird angles you do in every day life that should be specifically trained for.
Removing a tree stump with lever tools like a pick
Rocking a colicky baby for hours on end (these are endurance movements)
Turning an exceptionally large and hot pile of compost (Berkeley method) with a pitchfork
Swinging your kids around in the air like a Bulgarian bag because they love it
There. I gave four

>>76574778
>oh no, how will i ever be able to hold the weight of a small child without specific training, its not like completely untrained women manage this with no problem
>oh no, how will i ever be able to shovel shit without specific training, its not like decrepit 67 year old farmers manage this with no problem
>oh no, how will i ever be able to remove a tree stump, oh wait, i dont need to, because thats not a part of anyones fucking daily life.

face it, these are only the daily movements of a farmer, and if you are a farmer, you develop the strength needed to do this shit by farming, not by swinging shit around your head like a retard. your 'functional strength' that you claim is so essential is pointless for 99% of the population, and the 1% that actually might need it still dont need to do your hyper niche exercises.

i dont even do strength training much, i mostly focus on calisthenics, but im not such a retard to go around spouting this nonsense that strength training is somehow less functional than the dumbass shit you waste your time doing. the real strain of manual labour is 99% just moving heavy shit from one place to another, and things like deadlifts, squats, and ohp are by far the most effective way to train for that.

>>76574859
And yet you can't stop me from doing it or wearing those badass leather pants while doing it either. Checkmate calisthenicsfag

>>76574878
absolutely, refer to >>76574689
>if you wanna do your faggy little bowling pin exercises go ahead. the rest of us are gonna do tried and true exercises that professional athletes do. dont come here bragging about your functional strength when you're just a faggot playing with a bowling pin.

Don't forget to strengthen your tendons. The bowling pins/kettlebells/strongman lifts are worth adding in for a small percent of your program even if you don't compete in anything that uses them. If you are trying to be really athletic or functional, the more proficient you are at a variety of movements the better. The idea that you can get really good at one lift and it will automatically make you really good at something else (the transfer effect) is kind of a meme. Crossfit, conjugate, gymnastics, good S&C programs all have the right idea.

>>76572685 (OP)
useless for what you moron, nobody who trains, trains for the purpose of "useful muscles", it's all for a cosmetic change, health - because muscles are linked to longevity or compettive in the sphere the person choses to compete in.

All kidding aside it's great for middle age and you really need to work strength endurance and soft tissue integrity.

>>76574899
>even if you don't compete in anything that uses them
Comp weight for the zurkhaneh clubs is 16kg. That said the best tendon benefits are seen in the 6-8kg range for long times . I use my 13s for intensity blocks and my 10s and 7.5s for volume blocks

Functional is king. I constantly seek new disadvantageous ways to lift and I would say I got quite good at it. Nowadays I can move the heaviest packed top Samsonite one-handed with ease. I periodically go mog normies by helping them carry their pathetic suitcases on stairs. I do not care who they are, but old women and women with pathetic boyfriends (more like GIRLfriends haha) are my prime targets. The former is always very loud in their gratitude, leading to the maximum embarrassment of surrounding "men". To the latter I usually make a snide remark and leave without further explanation, like "well at least the suitcase didn't get wet".

>>76575023
White boy

>>76575023
Nearly Jewish levels of spite in that last scenario.

>>76575067
das rite

>>76575150
Yes. Always look for the greatest examples. In forgiveness, I ask, what would Jesus do? In spite, I ask, what would any jew do?

>>76573078

He was really strong for his size - perfect for combat sports.

>>76574689
>the rest of us are gonna do tried and true exercises that professional athletes do
There is no "rest of us". There's me, you, and other people, some of which will do pure strength training, and some of which will use maces and clubs, with varying degrees of overlap. You're free to join whichever camp you want, and to keep conflating me with the op lol.

But once again it's a similar principle to swimming (and in some wayvarious rotator cuff and similar exercises like face pulls, rear delt flies, shoulder dislocates etc). One swim pull is little.resistamce, yet doing it for a longer time is a good workout that can do wonders for shoulder health.

Also there's many different ways to do mace/club work; you can get ones that are very heavy and if you can learn to swing that stuff around you're def gonna be strong as fuck. Picrel., a "macebell"

>>76572685 (OP)
such a gimmic, it all depends on where are u leaning the thing, larry tries to hold it up straight and that is not the way, u need to allow it to fall onto you a tad just like with holding hammer up and getting it clost to your face
it is not about how strong u are - it's purely balancing act, reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOfePxxVgGk&list=RDgOfePxxVgGk&start_radio=1
the picture describes what i'm talking about - larry tries to work with his wrist, swarthy dude just makes sure there is as little load on wrist as possible

>>76575825
As with any rotation movement (punching, throwing, flipping) it starts with the hips and the arms are a finisher. The pants are a must though.

>>76575825
We can see the whole video, not just your cherrypicked single frame

>>76573104
yes saar you're so based saar

>>76575943
>We can see the whole video, not just your cherrypicked single frame
same shit bot
>>76575912
"clubs" are angled to face :D
>>76575825

>>76572685 (OP)
This is cool but give half those guys a week with those giant things and tubes become good with them probably

>>76575912
So he can shovel things very hard?

>>76573252
Lel

>>76573078
Why not both?

>>76575517
Based

>>76575912
This is the most JEETED movement ever. Pure joint "training" that hits zero muscles for zero reps with no progression or effort as we can clearly see. We cannot nuke India fast enough.

>>76576481
>no progression or effort as we can clearly see
skill issue
https://youtu.be/QPEe7uTuuho?feature=shared

>>76576225
Your whole fitness routine is just buying pretentious fringe equipment to give the impression you know something others don't.

As a result I'm willing to bet you have a very believable physique, the kind that gave up on being strong, good looking and lean, instead going all in on set of moderately heavy fedoras.

>>76576502
I have to say, these movements are incredibly impractical for strength.
You're better off just lifting and moving rocks.

>>76576516
not that anon, but I imagine club training can be useful if you actually use them like clubs, and don't just rotate them around in minimum-force arcs.

>>76576525
The clubs are part of the conditioning program not the whole thing. It's basically part of assistance for wrestling.
https://youtube.com/shorts/bYYLQF0PHsA?feature=shared

>>76576540
But those motions already depicted are shit for any of that.

>>76576582
Perhaps, but that's what they do as assistance for wrestling and other combat sports
Eastern Europeans do similar rotational assistance for wrestling by spinning goat shaped bags the same way shepherds load kids and lambs over their shoulder
Work with what you got I guess

>>76576603
All of these motions that rely on momentum rather than muscles seem like bullshit designed to injure but not strengthen.

>>76576622
>that rely on momentum
They don't rely on momentum thoughbeit because you need to exert force to redirect the arc. Things want to move in a straight line and you need to exert centripetal acceleration to change the straight line to an arc. As for
>designed to injure
it distracts the joint similar to a dead hang and the reason many people (myself included) get into it is to rehab shoulder and elbow injuries from other weight training. We're terrestrial animals running on jury-rigged arboreal hardware and our shoulders don't handle compression very well

>>76576516
No, I am lean. You do realize the Kettlebells can be perfectly utilized like dumbbells for more traditional resistance training exercises such as weighted squats, military press ups, rows, right?

>>76575825
yeah it's all about technique and people that are good at those big things were training technique on smaller ones for years and jsut hand out the biggest possible randomly just to gotcha other asses, fuck pajeets and their cocksticks

>>76576502
Lmao. Brown hands typed that reply. Gross.
Also where is the effort? What muscles does this even work you stupid 3rd worlder?

>>76572685 (OP)
What’s the “function” of this?

Also it is impressive, but the rotation ones are him being used to it and using the momentum. It’s not strength, it’s practice and physics.

>>76573042
You’re correct about off balance and irregular lifts but you’re better off doing farmers walks or sandbag carries or something like that. Same concept, way way less risk of joint damage, and carrying heavy shit is very practical. Spinning around giant bowling pins is not.

>>76577072
radical pizza muscles including obliques for the rotation, traps/upper pec for the two halves of the pullover, all three delts (the back swing is like a face pull), triceps on the back swing, biceps to decelerate to order position, and forearm/grip
you do it for time and volume so it has the same unimpressive look as kettlebell sport done for time, but I've been pain free from an old lifting injury and the shredder is hiding out in the technodrome from my radical 360° kickflip styles

>>76576957
>My meme equipment is good because you can still use it as normal equipment

Where to go to get maces and clubs in the US? I tried looking for swinging clubs, but got something else.

>>76577290
adex, onnit, white lion

>>76576225
No, must choose a very specific modality, use it to define your personality, and argue against everything else.

>>76577389
I understand you're being sarcastic but some people do that. They said, if someone absolutely held a gun to your head and said "pick one and only one implement for the rest of your life or I'll shoot you in the butt" it's probably a safer bet to pick an adjustable club over an adjustable kettle or dumbbell since you can do all the uniplanar (press, row, etc) and pitch/hinge (swipes and cleans) with a club, but it's more difficult to do the rotational movements with a kettle or dumbbell. You can - jeets call it a rumali curl (https://youtube.com/shorts/LAKvbR2KidA?feature=shared) - but it's easier to clip yourself with it.
Since no one is holding a gun to anyone's head, I prefer a multi modality approach

>>76577431
*"That said," not "they said"

>>76572685 (OP)
SAAR, YOU ARE NOT TO BE ABLE TO SWING THE STICKS LIKE ME SAAR THE SEX IS FOR ME NOW

If Larry Wheels spent all day practicing with these sand nigger sticks he'd be a million times better than this guy.

If you dropped me and a Navy Seal off in my neighborhood without a nap and said to find a certain street I'd do it faster but it doesn't mean I have better orientation skills

>>76577444
Indeed. It took this pro bodybuilder about a year, after he got into BJJ.
https://youtu.be/2aOtn8E1gxg?feature=shared

>>76573099
this is fucking based. please tell me where you got these beutiful clubs

>>76577489
bodymind-fit but the guy who turned them died of cancer this year

>>76573078
I will train the kettlebell and become Soviet superman, comrade

>>76573066
New? Dude... they were made popular again by this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYLrc2Rsjlg

Nearly 20 years ago.

>they do work

>>76573066
Clubs were popular in the UK in like the 1930s. They are older than kettlebells. They are very old. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_club#History

>>76573099
I’d be ashamed to show off my dildo collection.

>>76577858
shame is for the weak and unaccomplished

>>76573042
>kinesiological transverse

>>76577431
>I prefer a multi modality approach
Same bro, not sure why people get so emotional over this.

>>76572685 (OP)
Persian clubs are cool, but they aren't a show of strength. It's just hand skill like juggling. Takes practice but isn't in the same league as strength sports. All of these guys were strong enough to hold them up, they just don't have the practice to balance and swim them around. This thread is dumb

>>76577924
>All of these guys were strong enough to hold them up, they just don't have the practice to balance and swim them around. This thread is dumb
At first read I agree with you. But then you see someone like Martinis Licis address with with such humility.
https://youtu.be/Qp4XohAFP1E
It does give one pause. So I don't know

Not gonna judge these til I can swing a few heavy sets myself. Where the fuck do you find them tho

>>76577948
From what I've seen of his videos Licis is just enjoying all kinds of different strength sports nowadays, not saying one is better than any other, just different expressions, personally I'm really enjoying this wave of content where two retired athletes attempt each other's sports and see what carries over
>>76578016
I've only found them online, they're usually more expensive than kettlebells though but you can also make your own, there's tutorials on that

>>76572685 (OP)
Shoving that shit up your ass would be less gay than copying anything an indian, or whatever the fuck that is, considers to be cool or is proud of

>>76578167
>From what I've seen of his videos Licis
isn't that dumb and takes care of awkward movement 1st go
>>76576011
>>76575825

>>76573608
you get strong in a limit range of movements and not all of that strength necessarily carries over
For example, if you bench when do you ever actually do anything that even uses your chest as a primary mover, let alone completely isolates you in laying flat on the ground and push up against something trying to crush you. Posterior chain stuff like squats and deadlifts can transfer a lot more but even still, nothing you're picking up will be comparable to a barbell in terms of weight balance and grip.
This isn't to say that jeet clubs are actually any proof of strength (the trick is just using momentum and not hitting yourself so you barely train throwing strength at all) but regular compound exercises are rarely a good example of functional strength.
Contrarily, shit like farmer's walks/suitcase carries are great because its something that you will come across routinely in everyday life.

>>76572685 (OP)
him waving these bowling pins is cheating. He creates momentum that makes it easier to control them than just keep them in place.

>>76578787
The cyclical pendulum he's doing by shifting the weight from side to side is acting like a gyroscope stabilizing a spinning wheel. He's generating that gyroscopic force albeit with his hips and core va his arm. Is it cheating if you're still putting in the force production just more efficiently? IDK.

>>76573608
You are correct. When “gym strong” guys struggle with something “functional” it’s because they aren’t used to the motions. After doing it a couple times they’ll be way better than somebody who is used to it but never lifts. This video isn’t functional either.

>>76575744
>paying over $50 for that
>using something street shitters like to use
I’ll pass. At that point why not get a real reproduction mace? Yeah you’ll never hit anyone with it but at least those look cool and training is “practical”. Or buy a fucking sledgehammer for half the price that does the same thing and you have a sledgehammer.

>>76575912
He’s fat and copied that shirt from an anon that’s actually fit. Never taking advice from anyone looking like that.

>>76576522
Kek I love these

>>76576957
>weighted squats, military press ups, rows
Why not do the regular version of those? Barbells or dumbbells will give better results.

>>76577108
Did you think the blur would hide your massive gut? Your arms look good but your chest is small.

>>76577639
>taking muscle building advice from the weakest race on the planet
I’ll pass.

>>76578181
What the fuck am I looking at
>bearded dude bent over
>milk truck arrive

>>76573099
insert into anus saaar

>>76578798
> Is it cheating if you're still putting in the force production just more efficiently? IDK.
Yes when his goal is to look stronger and he isn’t. The force is from momentum of the clubs, not by him. I can “generate” more force by dropping my OHP from extension onto the ground but that’s a pretty shitty lift. People make fun of crossfit pull ups for a reason. Swinging your body, or in this case swinging clubs, might get the result but it’s not a show of strength and it limits muscle growth. You’re supposed to be pushing what your body can do, that’s how you get stronger.

>>76573060
wait my balls have joints?

>>76578933
>I can “generate” more force by dropping my OHP from extension onto the ground but that’s a pretty shitty lift.
kek you just described medicine ball slams

>>76577623
>video of who made them popular
>it's not the Iron Sheik

>>76573099
>>76576225
>all this equipment, when all you needed was a single metal rod.
shaking my head.

>>76578982
Kek I guess I did. Didn’t mean to but yeah these are pointless.

>>76579053
For hypertrophy yeah but it's actually pretty good at teaching how to transfer force along the anterior chain (like a reverse dumbbell or kettlebell snatch) and does have athletic value. Just fuck all for size

>>76579163
It does fuck all for strength too. It’s better than nothing obviously, but the part that helps is the lifting up of the ball not tossing it down. Other than maybe for loosing up no serious athlete is going to do these.

Real world example. Yesterday I was doing some landscaping in my yard and carried 30 bags of rock up a small hill. Putting the bag on my shoulder and walking up the hill takes effort. Tossing the bag off my shoulder requires basically none.

I miss when internet wasn't just constant ragebait.

>>76579236
>Tossing the bag off my shoulder requires basically none.
Slamming it with as much force as possible would engage the same and muscles and hip flexors as splitting a log. It's more an endurance thing since those are done for high reps (like splitting logs)

>>76572685 (OP)
What muscle does that train?

>>76579377
>would engage the same and muscles and hip flexors as splitting a log.
Which again, is a shitty way to strengthen your back or hip flexors. There are far better exercises
>it's more an endurance thing
Which proves what I just said. There’s also way better exercises for endurance and cardiovascular growth.

Meme shit like medicine ball slams, weighted axes, hitting tires with sledgehammers, etc are ways to trick idiots into buying stuff they don’t need for a subpar exercise. Being tired doesn’t equal good muscle growth.

>>76572685 (OP)
it's just technique at using those jeet clubs. For ex he holds them still with arm fully extended while Larry manages to hold them for a moment even with semiflexed elbows

>>76579561
There's even more little tricks that he's using. You're supposed to keep your pinkie under the pommel and that helps stabilize it
https://youtu.be/cqVl7LB_VLM

>>76573104
bro thought he cooked

>>76572685 (OP)
Looks like those guys are trying it for the first time.

>>76572685 (OP)
Why not use water jugs?

>>76580416
Then how can you shill overpriced meme weights that will get used for a week and forgotten?

>>76575912
Now if only he'd make that belly dance

>>76580591
I’ll never forget what he did to Larry wheels

>>76581417
Why do you think Larry is learning an ancient Persian martial art? He will have his revenge.

>>76578889
Idk seems like a good price to me for a hunk of metal that I can keep swinging around forever, but if you can get it in a different form that suits you the that is great also. I'm just talking about swinging heavy things in general.

>>76573299
You dont need to run from dog if ur 90kg pure lean mass

>>76580591
like a one-man ku klux klan

>>76572685 (OP)
>man who trains to do a specific thing is better at the specific thing than man who doesn't
Wow, insightful, this same point has not been repeated hundreds of times.

>>76582172
>hunk of metal that I can keep swinging around forever
Nigger what do you happens to metal? ANY hunk of metal with outlive you

>>76578889
Or since you're using a jeet tool anyway do like the jeets do.
Make your own from a length of bamboo and some concrete and a terracotta pot or whatever else you have laying around for a mold.

whats the function of holding to sticks upwards? Just go to a blue collar job and offer to carry stuff for free or something retard.

>>76576225
Do you use any lube with these dildoes?

>>76582871
Have you seen what happens to chalk when it gets wet? It makes its own gravy.

>>76573263
What do you know about Dr. Pavel?

>>76584282
>What do you know about Dr. Pavel?
He trains with jeet implements like jori clubs and gada maces, ipso facto, he is a bane-chod saaar!

>>76573078
Kettlebells are great for retards who aren't interested in knowing about anything, they just want to do something physical every day and grow stronger little by little or conserve what strength they already have.

I gave my dad some kettle bells for Christmas two years ago and apparently made him too strong. We were playing with my nephew and my dad tried to give him a little boost by making a foothold with his hands to help him over a wall. Instead of a little help, he launched him over the wall completely. This is a lifelong office worker with chronic back pain, I'm fucking jealous of his gains.

>>76573012
Street performance gains

>>76574689
y u mad tho

>>76575023
>>76575517
You are without question the hero of this thread and the example I will follow today as I seek to enrage everyone around me.

>>76577489
>>76577608
Mrmmm very good saar! I redeeming product !

>>76574311
They’ll never be as mainstream as they were in the 80s when the Iron Sheik was making them part of his WWF gimmick and embarrassing the ultrajacked baby-faces by handing them clubs they lacked the wrist or shoulder power to control.

>>76578889
>At that point why not get a real reproduction mace?
Real maces for hitting people to death with weigh like 4 lbs max and are usually lighter. Because swinging fast and without having to telegraph like a Dark Soul’s boss works better than trying to use sledgehammers as weapons.

Btw, if you don’t want to spend a ton of dough on maces or clubs, buy garage sale hammers. You should be able to get up to 20 lbs without having to buy specialized equipment. My lightest actual exercise mace is a 25 lb because my 5, 8, 12, 16, and 20 lbs “maces” are actually vintage sledgehammers.

>>76572685 (OP)
it's technique, pause the video of the guy doing it smoothly
he basically holds it close to the body, in a position where youre not using your muscles to hold it but rather your joints, basically resting it, he then uses momentum to swing it, meanwhile the bigger guys are trying to basically curl it and hold it in place with sheer strength

in other words: it's a performative dance, that a stronger person can also train, but then it wouldnt be as impressive for the gram, is that your FUNCTIONAL strength?

>your brain on kettlebells

Nice gains bros.

>>76587709
>My lightest actual exercise mace is a 25 lb because my 5, 8, 12, 16, and 20 lbs “maces” are actually vintage sledgehammers.
Indeed. The heaviest sledge I've seen is 16 - but my maces go up to 25kg. There are adjustables on the market now and I always recommend those unless you really like good wood or metalwork for its own sake.

Isn't the only really functional strength the one that helps you shoot?

>>76588321
Then you should be doing gun getups.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLk4oYPJ7TXKgU83gSuHjsLB1FqmXStyCl&feature=shared

powertards ITT getting destroyed by a dyel looking functional strength wagie

>>76590278
>Haha I am stronger but also I don't look strong, mogged!!!!

>>76590278
Whenever i see people calling construction workers being functional i think oh so you want to be a good slave? Seriously that seems to be the only actual function for functional strengthfags.

>>76591568
You're right, it's more important to look strong than to have strength. Retard.

>>76573101
can get dumbasses to buy random logs i ran through a lathe