Thread 76584907

>Who is /fat/ for?
For cookie collectors working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
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>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/

Previous thread: >>76581288

>eat in the 800s the last two days
>able to go about rest of day no problem
>eat up to 1400 today
>can’t stop thinking about eating more
wtf

>Night of the Unforgiving Cheat

What are some /fat/ horror movies?

>>76584920
Where Evil Lurks

>>76584920
The Whale.
Truly great horror holds a mirror to the viewer.

>>76584938
>The Whale.
this
has /ourguy/ brendan frazer in it as well

im so sore. and leg day is tomorrow. im scared

>>76584920
>TGI Fridays the 13th time

>>76584955
>cheat...cheat...cheat...cheat...cheat...cheat....
>gut...gut...gut...gut....gut...gut

>>76584920
slither

>>76584920
Feed. It's about a feeder.

>>76584968
Spook.

>>76584920
Se7en

I've been on a sub 1000 calorie diet for almost a year now, with a 1500 calorie cheatday once a week and I feel like I'm gonna faint half the time. Still need to lose 10-15kg though.

>>76585074
How many kg have you lost in a year?

>>76584810>>76585043
I fucking despise all of you
There is a magical thing called "specialization" that human societies are developed around.
>Oh you think it's a problem that easily accessible foods are all packed with cancer causing artificial chemicals that are unsuitable for human consumption?
>Well obviously the solution is to spend hours purchasing more groceries than you will use, overpay for small quantities (that large manufacturers get in bulk), and then spend hours to create a surplus of a subpar product!

Fuck you. I am not going to do this shit, just like I am not going to manufacture my own tables, or cut my own lumber, or mine my own silicon, or laser engrave my own computer processors.
You people are fucking scum.

>>76584907 (OP)
>trying intermittent fasting
>16/8s
>issue is that my job has me working random hours on random days
>work started 1 hr after my calorie window opened up
>work ended 1 hrs after my calorie window closed
>now hungry again which is fine but I missed my opportunity to lift and run after eating and I I lift now my protein shake will be outside of my calorie window so I don't want to take it and throw things off
>same schedule tomorrow before going back to normal on Friday
>I'm now missing gym days for the first time since February so I can try to lose fat
>already getting weaker from cutting and had to use my safety bars twice this week
Life is pain. I want to stop my fasting once I hit 180 and then start losing a little bit at a time so that I can focus on building again. Nothing killed my motivation more than coming on /fit/ and being called fat after lifting for 6 months.

>>76585082
Not to mention making your own food is top-tier poverty signalling.

>>76585078
I didn't weigh myself when I started cause I thought it would demoralise me if I weighed too much, first time I weighed myself I was 103kg if I remember correctly, now I'm 76kg. So I probably lost somewhere around 35-40kg I guess

Went to get Arby's and planned on getting just 2 roast beefs, but got 4 because there was a deal that was cheaper. I saved money, but would eating all 4 be worse than 2? Apparently there's only 360 calories, which is way less than I expected.

>>76585098
Just save the rest for other days

>>76584907 (OP)
Is salmon good for cutting? I've been trying to eat it and rotate with chicken breasts but I've realised that salmon obviously has way more fat and I think a worse calorie/protein ratio than breasts

so hungry...

>>76585123
its fine, your diet doesn't need to be 100% optimized

Might make a simplified kangaroo san choy bow. Skip most of the oils etc. and just do a savoury kangaroo mince in lettuce cups.

>>76585199
I was fasting once for 5 days, was going really well, then I ate a pickle because I was so hungry and that just opened the floodgates for pizza.

>>76585123
salmon is like one of the best superfoods in the world, the effects omega 3 fatty acids have on your body far outweigh anything retarded like calorie counts
DHA literally grows your brain and makes you smarter, and salmon is one of the most DHA rich foods on the planet

how much/how often do I need to eat tuna to give myself mercury poisoning?

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Seems to be going alright. No complaints, easy cruising, some food noise but nothing too bad.

>>76585241
5 cans of tuna a day for years

>>76585257
whats ur puke status so far anon

>eat pork and beef every day
>body is fine, shits are normal
>increase my deficit by cutting out pork, eating less red meat, and consuming more chicken / fish instead
>my shits start smelling like blood
thank you body, very cool

>>76585281
Still 0. I don't puke while fasting. I did do get nauseous at longer fasts at one point but electrolytes fixed that problem for me.

>>76585257
ever gotten really bad constipation? last time I did a 3 day fast I had a bunch of shit inside me by day 2 that I couldn't get out for an entire day until I refed.

>>76585089
no recently its very bougie and sexy to make your own food

>>76585296
I'm constipated in general. Fasting might sometime worsen it but nothing unmanageable and actually, sometimes fasting seems to even help with my gut issues. I have had far FAR worse constipation while eating daily.

Alright, after a long bender I am starting back up my weight loss right now. 1500cal a day, run at least a mile a day. I can do this and I will do this, and after a few months I will finally be lean. I've just got to grind it out and stay strong

>>76585310
>run at least a mile a day
you could just walk the shit

it's a marathon, not a race

>>76585305
Poverty-tier.
Imagine your street's lonely femcel. Who do you think she's going to go for, the guy who's stuck inside for an hour every day cooking, a woman's job, or the chad who comes out of the house in his bathrobe 3 times a day to pick up the food, the hero who keeps local businesses afloat? If it's come from a shop it probably means it's actual food too, the weirdo creep cooking by himself could be eating cow dung for all you know.

>>76585315
whens the last time you talked to a real person

>>76585312
I get bored walking, and I can handle more than that easily. I love running and 1mi a day is just a way to get me out of the house to get the ball rolling into higher numbers than that. This Summer heat has been brutal

>>76585316
Saturday.

>>76585316
>whens the last time you talked to a real person
wait, are you all real?

or are you all phat phantoms?

How effective is walking 10k steps a day for weight loss anyway?
I'm doing it anyway but just wondering

>>76585327
More effective than 2k. Less effective than 20.

>>76585327
Assuming you did it every day, that translates to around 50lbs of fatty caloric deficit per year. That's why doctors (used to) tell old fatties to walk.

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Weight: 105.65kg

Overall progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty6eV0EBDdM

Looks like my crime against culinary arts is doing me justice. I cant believe I ate that 1kg abomination 14h ago and still woke up with 1kg less today.

>>76585226
>listening to An Indian about what makes humans smarter
ngmi

>>76585315
>Anon hasn't discovered batch-cooking yet.

>>76585389
>eating 3-day-old food to "save time"
You're not just poor, you're destitute.

>>76585082
Nigga you don’t have to slaughter the cow or pluck the vegetables. They harvest/produce for you. They handle the packaging for you, they drive all that food to the store for you, they even conveniently gather and categorize everything in one place. They provide carts so you don’t have to haul everything through the store.

They did EVERYTHING to make it easier for you, and yet you believe making food is too much effort

im getting some cravings so im going to eat some beef jerky but thankfully beef jerky is healthy and low calorie so it doesn't actually count towards my daily totals and im just not going to count it

>>76585377
i am proud of u anon

>>76585421
>IMG_0295.jpg
opinion disregarded

are snap frozen veggie bags a meme? apparently theyre more nutritious than fresh vegs and I can't be assed actually going out and buying vegetables to chop and prepare, rather just pop open a bag of snap frozen mix

>>76585391
>Anon hasn't discovered freezing yet.

>>76585453
>eating reheated "food"
That's a real dog's breakfast.

>download a calorie tracker app
>it asks me a shit load of info (including what country i live in and my zip code)

>>76584918
>starve yourself
>get hungry
>why

Anons, going down from 75.5 to 74.8kg on 48 hours fast. Anons, I just want to become a 70kg twink again.

>>76585098
You have to learn to break the mindset that made you fat in the first place. You should not be eating 1440 calories of roast beef sandwiches. You should not be eating four roast beef sandwiches. If you said to somebody, I just ate four roast beef sandwiches, they would immediately conclude you had a binge eating disorder. It doesn't matter if it fits your calories and macros. The behavior is absurd. I'm not saying this to mock you or put you down. I'm trying to help you better yourself so that after you lose the weight you can keep it off and develop healthy eating habits.

>>76584918
Just do low carb and omad, hunger went away completely for me.

>>76585316
Nta, now why would I do that shit?

>>76585421
>apple pie is "food"

>>76585622
>Minnesota
>need to have that Mudslime representation

Americans are such pathetic cvcks. Starting to rival Europoors.

>>76585315
No such thing as a "femcel", you terminally online zoomer.

>>76585098
how about you eat *1* (one) roastbeef sandwich, you fat fucking retard?

>>76585098
>but got 4 because there was a deal that was cheaper
But it wasn't cheaper, it cost you more than 2 would have cost you stupid nigger brain.

I honestly prefer my fasting days than my eating days, we full eating disorder now bros

Coming up to one month.
Think I managed to beat the plateau. Couple of rough days with digestive side effects, but keeping on with it.

>>76585622
why do ppl on here wrongly label stuff as "starving". if youre eating any calories at all, even 100 a day, that's not starving since youre eating at least something.

>>76585795
Its called context and relative comparison. You're in the fat loss general.

>>76585713
Great job anon

>>76585795
The definition of starving is suffering or dying from hunger. 100kcals a day you would be suffering/dying from hunger so that would be starving. You stupid faggot.

>>76584907 (OP)
Went to the public park gym and tried doing dips for the first time. I can almost do good negative dips at 107kg bodyweight but it's a bit rough. Also played around on the monkey bars for a bit but couldn't move more than one bar before falling. Any tips for how to improve at this bodyweight?

>>76585819
Lose some weight

>>76585822
I have lost 13kg over the last 7 weeks :P

>>76585442
they are gross compared to real veggies but if it's for a quick stir fry or something then it matters less

>>76585466
that fast food you're defending? its reheated.

>>76585819
more negatives
deadhangs

Counting calories is for absolute retards. Yes you will lose weight but in an unhealthy way and feel like shit. Eat a low carb high fat diet with regular calories and you body will naturally adapt to burn fat and feel less hungry naturally. Also you won't get loose skin and you can easily fast for a few days or weeks if you need to lose some skin or want to heal your body. If you get less than 15-50g carbs a day you will naturally adapt to ketosis but it requires you to never cheat on it or you will feel like absolute shit and the first 2 weeks might be hard because of the sugar withdrawal symptoms. Sugar is one of the most dangerous and addictive drugs , worse than cocaine.

Big Beef shill farm went online earlier than usual today?

>>76585941
if being in ketosis is the magic thing here, you will be happy to know that with a big enough calorie deficit, your body will be in ketosis regardless of how many carbs you eat. all you have to do is count the calories that you eat, and you will achieve the same while being free of the nonsense rules of ketotards.

>>76585817
>fatty stops eating for an hour
>feels hunger
>bothered/suffers from it
>fits the bill for "starving"

What an absolute fucking mong you are lmao holy fucking shit

>>76585704
Apparently for 2 it would have been $17 but with whatever deal they had going on, they had 4 for $14 or something.

>>76585241
canned tuna doesn't have that much mercury, 1-2 servings a week is completely fine

>>76585981
>eat 300g of carbs in a day
>"i'm in ketosis because of a deficit! or something"
K

>>76585819
My brother. I started at 105, doing bench dips. Be sure to flare your palms towards your sides though. For the rest, please consult this infographic:
http://www.startbodyweight.com/2014/01/basic-routine-infographic-poster.html
It took me a while to feel like I belonged there; in truth - everyone is welcome, you most of all (due to near-immediate health concerns)

>>76585822
There are bodyweight progressions for almost every weight out there

>>76586036
>eat 300g of carbs (1200 kcal), but body needs 3000 kcal to function
>body burns body fat to compensate
>most of your calories are now coming from fat
>ketone levels increase
congratulations, you are in ketosis

>>76586061
According to the more radical keto denominations those carbs get converted and deposited into your fatty tissue straight away in the first place, deficit or not.

>>76584918
idk why but I find it way harder to not eat more on the day off I don't exercise at all or the two where I go at it a bit easier.

>>76585711
>I honestly prefer my fasting days than my eating days, we full eating disorder now bros
I'm similar. When I'm fasted, I'm full of energy and motivated, but as soon as I eat, I just slow down and go "meh". I've noticed it with 16/8, with OMAD, and with alternate day fasting. I loooove working out fasted, but working out anytime after I've eaten just feels okay compared to fasted. No idea what that's about, but its a huge shift in how I feel.
Also that sort of stomach hunger just feels weirdly nice, hard to explain.

>>76585711
>>76586150
cope or lying? jokes aside, HOW?! I want to kill myself on fasting days, and experience the exact opposite of what you describe. Major "meh" attitude towards most things, serious difficulties concentrating and feeling slightly sick and lethargic.

yes im hydrated yes i do the potassium bullshit

SW: 370
CW: 356
2 weeks so far, no noticeable physical changes but clothes are fitting slightly better. Water weight has been dumped so not feeling bloated anymore. Would imagine I wouldn’t start to notice proper changes till I get under 320

>>76585296
Always poop before you start your fast. Though the constipation sucks, your body will force it out after a while if you stick push through it.

>>76585082
Jewish hands typed this post.

>>76585941
More than 20g is risky.

>>76585981
>your body will be in ketosis regardless of how many carbs you eat
You're retarded. One cannot enter ketosis without deprivation of carbs (20 or less for assurance).

>>76586265
>fell for the meme science
ketosis is defined by elevated levels of ketone bodies. ketones are produced by the liver when fat is metabolized. if your body metabolizes enough fat, you will be in ketosis. if you have a high enough calorie deficit, you body will metabolize its own fat stores.

>>76585315
Single most dog-shit take in /fat/ history, is the "local business" you speak of KFC perchance?

You and the woman who tolerates you putting chicken tendies and fries on the table deserve each other.

>>76585819
God, last place i've been at had a park with an open air gym and my skinnyfat ass didn't go there a single time despite walking past it almost every single day, it's something a regret every time i pay out the ass for the pool entry fee that's near my current place.

grok is singlehandedly teaching me how to cook

I bought Lay's chips Salt and Vinegar cause I never tried Lay's chips. Also it was heavily discounted.

Go on without me

>>76586320

Dont be (even more) retarded, you can easily recovery it

>>76586341
I know. It's only around 900 calories. It just feels wrong

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>>76585627
Broke my 48h fasting. Can't wait for the next one.

>>76586320
That's fine, just keep on trucking. A speedbump here and there is nothing.

>>76586385
I'm on morning 3 of a 72 hour fast.
Usually I'm miserable on days 1 and 3.
This time it was days 1 and 2 and I'm feeling fucking amazing on day 3 so far.
Monday night at 10PM I weighed myself, 216lbs.
This morning it's 209.

>dont eat anything at all for a day
>drop from 89.2 kg down to 85.9 (178 cm)
>wtf

>>76586410
Must've been a very nice shit

Hey frens, stay strong.

Day 5 of my weight not budging. I know I’m full of shit when I weigh myself (literally) but my body doesn’t want to poop until I’ve eaten something to push my shit out. And weighing myself after eating is a useless metric. Let’s hope Friday and Saturday give some results

>>76586025
>It doesn't have much mercury. That's why you can only eat it twice a week

>>76586410
>Don't put food which has weight in your body.
>dont consume salt which makes the body retain water
>run off stored glycogen, which releases water
>body weighs less
>how is this possible

>>76586482
>he thinks he doesn't belong to a tribe
>he thinks there are no tribes outside
How did you end up this retarded?

>>76586487
Thanks for proving my point.

>last week I did 3 sets of 5 with 6 on my last set
>this week I did 3 sets of 6 with 4 on my last set

At the same weight. is this kind of progress?

>>76586503
You're part of a tribe wether you like it or not and basically all of the tribes except white people (for the most part) severely believe in and adhere to THEIR tribe at the expense of others.
Mongoloid.

>>76585981
yea its right a caloric deficit will get you some ketones and fat burning of course. I am talking about your entire body adapting to that process and increasing it, starting to use it more and more efficiently and gaining more of the benefits. You lose fat with a more efficient and higher rate while also feeling much more energized and constant in your energy instead of crashing every time your body is forced to deal with carbs. Its just more efficient that way but yea if you wanna be slower and feel worse while doing it go ahead it does work for some. For me getting rid of sugar addiction while still eating delicious stuff until im saturated is just the much smarter and easier way to go about this. Nowadays you dont even need to stop eating sweet shit with how many keto alternatives there are, but I would recommend not doing too much of this because it is kinda still not too great with the insuline spiking differently afaik, so I just see it as a treat if I would crave something sweet or kinda starchy.

I can just tell you from personal experience that without any workout just sitting on my ass all day not even walking much except for to the bathroom and maybe down some stairs a few times a day, that I have lost around 50kg in a year eating a good amount of bacon with eggs every morning and then having something like a tuna salad with some more meat and cheese until I actually felt stuffed some of the days.

You gotta think that your body isnt retarded most of the times. If you give your body less calories it will adapt and burn less. Its actually probably even the worst way to lose weight by counting just calories without taking care where they come from. fucking calories are legit measured by seeing how well something burns, its just retarded.

how do you guys handle this psychologically? some days I wake up depressed and buy slop, only to feel motivated right after the binge, is it the low blood sugar in the morning? I want to be consistent with it but I fear my body will just ask me to eat bad foods and ruin everything

>>76586523
The discussion was over after you proved my point I didn't read your reply. I'm going to hide your subsequent replies now.

>>76586531
Mounjaro.

But, unironically, there's a lot to be said in recognizing that it's a cycle.
You eat because you're depressed, and then you're depressed because you ate. And the obvious answer to that is to not eat. But, it takes some time to accept that answer.

>>76586531
have you tried being too busy to eat. Plan a bunch of shit to do tomorrow and plan all of the food that you will eat and make it so that you just have to eat the planned food and you are busy with other shit. I even used a kitchen timer when i am on my computer. Always keep the tick tock sound going and making myself feel like I cant waste time. Idle thoughts lead to food.

>>76586549
NTA but what the fuck is this reading comprehension? you somehow came to the exact polar opposite conclusion of what he wrote in that post.

>>76586531
You're just weak,
its easy to have motivation when you're all fed up

>>76586391
Good luck anon, wagmi.

>get my sets in yesterday
>scale goes up +0.8lb today
what the fuck
it can't even be water weight because i've been doing this for weeks, i just skipped my most recent exercise day

>>76586610
Its always waterweight holy shit man when will you retards learn

>>76586610
>i just skipped my most recent exercise day
have you considered that maybe you didn't sweat as much as usual?

other guy is right, its always fucking water weight

>>76586614
This, your body is kind of a nigger when it comes to weightloss and has all kinds of water retention systems

Do weighttraining? Water retention from inflammation in muscle tissue
Do a diet? Water retention from increased cortisol
Eat carbs? Water retention from glycogen in your muscles
Eat salty foods/snacks? Water retention from sodium
Eat fiber? Water retention in guts until you shit it out

>>76586626
I honestly took a few days off from running and lost a lot of water weight. I dont want to ruin peoples momentum but sometimes you just need to let the body drain out that water

Humans are like 50% water so even if you lose like 100lb, 50lb will be water weight.

>>76586614
>>76586626
how? is it that short-term? i thought the body keeps it generally stable after a few weeks of the same routine

can i eat only kebab 3 times a day and not get fat if i also lift?

>>76586654
Sure if each kebab is 500 caloires, thats 1500 calories a day, most people could lose weight just by eating this diet and not even step in the gym, but I wouldn't recommend it

>>76586665
why not? it has carbs protein and veggies

>>76585199
I've been eating the large individually wrapped ones from 7-11
>>76585241
eat it during your diet, its fine, youre not going to be dieting for life
>>76586449
you cant digest uncooked mushroom. buy a box of baby bellas, grind them up, put some italian seasoning on them and eat them all in one go uncooked.

>>76586654
sure if its grilled chickenbreast kebab with no sauces

>>76586667
The part where I said you dont need to go the gym to lose weight, while its true, your body wont look great, the diet part I truly dont care what someone eats, as its been proven many times that you can truly eat whatever you want a lose weight as long as you're eating at a deficit

>>76586503
You didn't have a point.
You posted an image that said "tribalism is stupid, go outside."
Both parts of that sentence are nonsense.

>>76586543
That's not me that's a different anon.
You dumbass.

>>76586587
Still going strong! 61.5 hours of fasting, FINALLY not fantasizing about food today.
WAGMI

>>76586689
I didn't read your post. The discussion was over after you doubled down and proved my point

>>76586626
>damn you body for storing water so I don't die in the event that I can't get to any right away
Honestly it could be a lot worse. It only retains enough to survive for 3-5 days.
We should just go full camel and say fuck it.

>>76586701
Yeah you did.
Lmao.
What a pussy.

>>76586708
Could probably survive more depending on how fat you are
Metabolic water from fat oxidation is a thing, just dont be in the sun and dont eat and move too much

>>76586700
For me it was the last 4hours.

>>76586717
If I feel this good when I wake up tomorrow I might keep it going until dinner tomorrow night.
I don't want to fuck my stomach up though. Might break the fast with some soup at lunch time tomorrow.

>>76586524
i agree that keto can be an effective way to produce a calorie deficit. but that's all it is, the rest is pseudocience bullshit. i lost a lot of weight with keto in the past, but for me this is not a sustainable diet, so i regained all of it. i am doing cico now and feel just as good or better than i did on keto, and i am losing weight much faster, simply because i know exactly what my deficit is, and i can adjust my diet to fit my goal.

>>76586524
>fucking calories are legit measured by seeing how well something burns, its just retarded.
incredibly misinformed

I fasted for 2 hours. Time to eat.

>>76586717
The last 4 of the 48?

Fuck I need a better way to deal with sudden spikes of stress than stress eating. At least it's the first time it happens in a year ig.

/fat/ties, what's your recipe with tuna ? It's kinda ass on it's own

>>76586823
Im a simple man a little bit of mayo and relish maybe a side of crackers, and im good

>>76586813
try ashwagandha, it works. possibly theanine as well.

>>76584907 (OP)
Sup, /fat/bros

Is 6'1 320 lbs (31 yo) too heavy to roon? Trying to lose weight, already down 15 lbs. Already been power walking for the past few weeks, 5 miles 2-4 times per week. Want to step up the intensity.

>>76586846
You are over 300lbs. Do not run.

>>76586846
Walk on a treadmill at an incline. If your are hanging on to the treadmil you're going to fast NEVER HANG ON THE TO TREADMIL alternatively find hills to walk if not treadmil is available

>>76586846
Do not run.
You will fuck your knees and ankles and feet in a horrifically short time span at your weight.
Kitchen and walk anon.
Just keep at it.

>>76586823
Tuna, a bean of your choice (I like chickpeas best,) pepper, onion, garlic powder, hot sauce, and a little bit of mayo. I really want to make this again but I'm out of groceries.

>>76586846
Increasing intensity past zone 2 just burns more carbs rather than fat. Its also more fatiguing so people are less likely to keep at it compared to walking. If you want to increase intensity on waking try Increasing walk speed or incline.

>>76586839
What are even those? I'm fine with the usual background stress but it just got too much these past few days. Stupidly hopped on my bike and went at it until its silly calories counter was as high as the crap I ate, which I'm pretty sure is a stupid thing to do.
Maybe I should just try to bike a bit next time, but skip the food and take it slow and chill. Thanks Anon, good talk.

>>76586839
>try ashwagandha, it works
Not for me. Did absolutely nothing for me when I started taking it.

>>76585569
is this what /fit/ slop looks like

Multivitamins dont have calories, right?

>>76586901
Thats one of the best looking meals around here desu

>>76586905
Usually less than 10 depending on what's in them. Fish oil will have some, usually about 50.

>>76586901
Looks good to me.

>>76586848
>>76586861
>>76586885
Thanks anons, I'll just speed up the stride then
>>76586858
>>76586864
I don't have a treadmill

>>76586823
open large can, empty in baking tray, put some swiss cheese and a sliced tomato on top. bake until melty.
tuna melt.
>>76586846
when youre 260 get a bicycle and ride, until then just walk

>>76586931
>when youre 260 get a bicycle and ride, until then just walk
Appreciate it, thanks anon

>>76586927
No problem buddy.
Just hate to see you injure yourself and turn into even more of a parade float.
Just keep at it, consistency.
We're all proud of you and WAGMI

On mounjaro I feel like a normal human being for once, just today I noticed something interesting

Usually when I would have mints/tictacs/lozenges I would just chew through them like they're candy
Even when I tried to suck to the end I would be too impatient and have never been able to do it
But today I noticed I was able to easily just suck on a lozenge without the desire to chew it and swallow it like an animal
Crazy how this works

>>76584907 (OP)
why do so many of you insist on losing weight the hard way when there are easy ways?

mom the drug dealers are shilling in /fat/ again

>>76586985
are you ketoschizo or a pharmajew?

>>76584907 (OP)
I finally figured out my hand cramps were actually just hand cramps.
meaning it was just an electrolyte imbalance. I ate some watermelon with salt and it completely went away where some days I had been sitting with it for 4 hours wondering why it won't go away

>>76586985
Easy Choices, Hard Life.
Hard Choices, Easy Life.

Fuaarrk I'm a framelet under all the fat. Should've been drinking raw milk as a kid instead of being raised on literal onions (((milk))) because my mom watched a vegan documentary about the dairy industry once.

>>76587035
maybe you should twinkmode. heard women are into that

>>76587035
I drank a shitload of milk and it didn't help, my teeth are really healthy though

>>76586692
Nah mate, let him keep going. It's funny =]

>>76587035
I too drank a lot of milk. Just gave me acne

>>76586823
> Tuna
> Mayo
> Diced Onion
> Diced Gherkins

Mix all together and you have a nice spread. You can eat it on it's own as well.

>>76587035
>onions
Why does this gay filter still exist?

>88g
>400 Kcal
>0 Nutritional value
Absolutely worth it. I will make space in today's budget for this.

>>76586823
tuna and egg white omelet. high protein, very filling, low calorie.

>mayo
ngmi

Fat posters eating mayonnaise destroying the purpose of tuna entirely....

Just eat a steak if you want to eat fat, not literal processed lard squeezed out of a tube with every preservative known to mankind. Holy fuck tuna is supposed to be a low calorie option

>>76587035
>Fuaarrk I'm a framelet under all the fat
Go for ottermode. Women unironically prefer it to super yoked guys with huge shoulders

>>76587093
bro... your macros?

Too bad Kraft discontinued the fat free mayo

i dont get what people see in skyr. it tastes so bad. low fat quark all the way

As long as you don't overdo it, a little mayo is fine. Mostly unsaturated fat, it's actually healthy, especially if you're getting Omega 3 sources, too.

>>76587114
Better protein amount than greek or regular.

>muh healthy fats

We see you tubby. Are you a white 30-45 year old female perhaps?

>>76587111
They can wait a day.

>>76587094
>>76587082
>>76586931
>>76586867
>>76586828
Thanks, I'll try some of them

>>76587140
Yes, healthy fats meaning unsaturated dietary fats.
Anti-fat/carb is stupid

>claim its healthy
>it's literally called fat

How is the progress anon?

>>76587213
u have beautifully colored nipples

Former fatfuck here who made it out years ago, just dropping in to say I really like the threadstarter pics of this general. Fantastic stuff.

Keep it up, friends. We're all gonna make it.

>>76587209
This post is of very low quality. Please read the sticky before posting in the future.

>>76587213
Starting weight and current weight? Also age and height?

>>76587213
Bro it hurts me to see what you did to yourself but I'm glad you're making progress.
How much weight have you lost, left to right?

>>76587218
thx. i draw them

>>76587216
Thank you, they pair nice with my pale complexion

>>76587224
They aren't AI?? :0

>>76587221
Im 26 and 5ft8
>>76587223
I was about 20.5 stone on the left and I havent stepped on a scale since then, part of me is afraid I haven't lost as much as I want. Eventually I'll get on the scale, I know its silly not too I want to look undeniably better before weighing in case im still a massive weight

>>76587195
You're obese not listening to you kek

>>76587229
I bet you've lost 3 stone between these two pics.

>>76587229
>5ft8
Brutal

>>76587269
Im tom cruise maxxing
>>76587264
3 stone would be really solid, I've been eating better for a while but only truly trying to lose weight for 5 months. I would have last some the 5 months before that, but its been more rapid lately. Fitting back into some old clothes is an amazing feel even though finding a belt is still hard (seriously how do older fat dudes find belts)

>>76585327
Very. It's like free 480kcal deficit.
It's effective as prevention b4 becoming lardass too. Accidentally went over TDEE? Just go for a walk.

This general is inhabited by some of the dumbest gorilla niggers to ever exist that I'm honestly convinced are just trying to sabotage people. Telling fellow fatties to eat mayonnaise? What the fuck are y'all doing the mayonnaise is already in your gut from the last 10 years of over eating. Are any of you losing weight at an actually productive pace? Not 1lb a week I'm talking like 20lbs a month. The fuck are you wasting so much time dieting for? Lose the weight

>>76587277
https://www.amazon.com/Leather-Leatherwork-Projects-Collars-Jewelry/dp/B0BYHN1YLQ

https://www.amazon.com/Hysagtek-Buckles-Hardware-Leather-Accessories/dp/B07M87JVPX/

>>76587310
>just crash diet bro
worst way to do it, we want to fix our life not lose weight and then rebound

I am feeling tired today /fat/

can one of you put yourselves up for some low impact cardio?

>>76587277
You should play around with fasting once your BMI is in a safe place (not sure about right now though).
I drop 1 stone in a 72 hour fast and an additional one-to-two stone in the weeks after as I ease back into being a lump of low-impulse control shit.
Doing it quarterly has kept me from ballooning even when my diet goes to shit. Just 4 times per year, even in a crazy year with work or kids or stress or whatever, keeps me hovering in the 14 stone range (I'm 6ft).

>>76587318
You're fat and will always be fat. Enjoy the 2 years of "dieting" on Doritos to lose 10lbs because you use le macro factor app.

>>76587310
>Are any of you losing weight
35 pounds since july 13, i have a schmear of mayo on my sandwiches
I trust anon isn't going to gob 500 calories of mayo onto his fish he can be trusted to moderate

>>76587326
>14lbs in a 72 hour fast
Why lie fastard?

I mix greek yogurt into my tuna, it's not great but it's good enough

>>76587330
shush crab

>>76587348
I'm on one now.
I weighed 216 Monday morning.
I weighed 208 this morning.
Tomorrow, at lunch time, when I have a bowl of broth and maybe an egg, I'll weigh ~205.
It's more like 85 hours, but I usually don't count the first night's sleep as my liver is still metabolizing carbs.

>>76587379
You do not lose 14lbs fasting for 3 days you stupid nigger brain.

>>76587397
This time I'm looking at losing about 12.
But yeah.
I do. It's closer to 3 and a half days, as I said.
I don't think I'm unique in that.
You retarded mathlet faggot.

>>76587421
14lbs is 3500kcals x 14. Do the maths nigger.

>>76587112
What even is in fat free mayo

>>76587310
I've lost 30~40kg in a year, I'm in no hurry.

>>76587350
Try Icelandic yogurt. Tastes more like sour cream.

Did the keto guy stop getting replies and now he switched to demonizing a different macro group?

>>76587423
There is more to loss of weight than kcal.
I lose 3 pounds just in the day 2 shits alone.
Or 10,500 kcal lmfao.
I work in a hot kitchen 4 nights during the fast. Monday night to Thursday night, break the fast when I wake up around noon on Friday.
So how much water weight, 2 or 3 pounds?
Another 10,500 kcal LOL.
What's left, 20,000 kcal to keep me alive while I work and sit and walk my dog and mow my lawn etc? For 3 days and 4 nights?
It's pretty simple math.

Fatty Contest
LivingGod
69.0kg

>>76587497
Peak retard

>>76587497
If you're insinuating that you literally lose fat by pooping, then you have an eating disorder, dude.

>>76586846
You do not need to run.

The average weight person can burn 100 calories per mile walked walking. At 3 miles per hour (walking speed) thats 300 calories per hour.

Walking is unnaturally villified as being an improper medium of exercise because its seen as slow and inefficient. As such, many uninformed people will consider walking to burn little calories, when in reality you burn 300 calories per hour

Since you're fat you will burn over 300 calories per hour.

Get used to walking an hour a day (3 miles / 6000 steps) and the weight will fly off and its a hella exercise for you

Do not run, walk

>>76587555
>fat
We're talking about pounds/time.
Dude.
If you think the weight of your shit doesn't subtract from the total weight of your body when you shit it out, you have a mental disorder, dude.

>>76587530
>tries to make argument based on math using incoherent formula
>applies incoherent formula to reality, stupid results
>big mad
Peak retard is right.

yeah ngl im not a huge fan of this entire deficit thing

>>76587623
try the jab and you will see how easy it is

paused my fat loss to study for entrance exams and get into uni, pray for me fellas

>>76587625
the fat vax is like $1k a month

>>76587631
I just get them from chinks for I dont know, almost nothing basically
100 bucks for half a year maybe, maybe more
Its so cheap I aint even counting

>>76587635
praying for anon

>>76587092
Holdover from when this site was still kind of a real image board. Current staff probably don't know how to change it

I give up
double steakburger
double cheese
small fries
+1k calories
I do not want to cook today, protein goals be damned

>>76587631
I bought mine for about 100 bucks a month in europoor, is bretty gud

>>76587674
baka desu senpai

>>76587687
carbs always make me feel like shit after a cheat meal but fuck do they taste great

we did it bros. another leg day in the books

damn boys I am making these beef and bean burritos with cheese that are good as fuck. Just use lean ground beef and make the refried beans myself so there is no added fat, and use cheese from 2% milk and use low carb tortilla. Eat it with salsa that has no calories. This is literally the best I have ever eaten while losing weight.

>>76587092
4chan exists for surveillance of the right wing and meme suppression. The [s o y] meme was deemed a threat so it got suppressed. It got wordfiltered after someone came up with [s o y i m] as a word for leftists. You can tell they particularly felt threatened by the word [s o y i m] because it has a unique wordfilter just for it.

>>76587623
it took me a month and a half to get comfy

>>76587635
>Ozempic (semaglutide) is a synthetic glucagon-like peptide-1 (GLP-1) receptor agonist. It is produced using recombinant DNA technology, where yeast cells are used to produce a protein that is similar to the natural hormone GLP-1.
>The process involves:
>1. Isolation of GLP-1 gene:
Scientists isolate the gene that codes for GLP-1 from a human or animal source.
>2. Insertion into yeast cells:
The gene is inserted into yeast cells, which then produce the GLP-1 protein.

its produced with genetically altered germs? yeah, a Chinese version sounds like a recipe for a new coronavirus

>>76587845
yeh that’s pretty good. i also like pickled jalapenos in mine

>>76587845
>Low carb tortilla

Sorry mate you got jewed, dietary fiber has calories insoluble doesn't. It's dietary fiber not insoluble (otherwise it'd be tree bark basically) so you are paying more for a worse tasting tortilla with the same number of calories
Pic rel, your really think
>Modified wheat starch
>Wheat gluten isolate
>Wheat flour

Is 0 calories or low carbohydrate in any way shape or form? Not to mention all the sneed oils, just get a regular tortilla it'll taste better cost less and has the same calories

>>76587431
I used it as the healthier substitute for sour cream, now I actually prefer it and don't like sour cream as much. I thought it was just me but my GF said the same thing after having it with tacos/burritos a few times.

>>76587882
can you explain this to me as if I was even dumber than you think is possible?

>>76587882
Dietary fiber is broken down into short chain fatty amino acid in your system. So each gram of dietary fiber has 2.5 calories.

3.5x9= 31.5 calories from fat

6x4= 24 calories from "protein"

17x2.5= 42.5 calories from carbohydrates

So 98 calories per tortilla. Basically the same as any other actually good tasting tortilla like pic rel.

Also guys don't count "protein" from non animal sources, the "protein" content of a food is just based on how much nitrogen off gasses when they burn it. No piece of tortilla has 9 amino acid and it's therefore not protein

>>76587906
>protein
>fatty acids
Not carbs.

The only thing that matters is avoiding carbs.

>>76587906
damn that sucks that they can just lie like that. But its also good news that I will soon be eating better tasting tortillas anyway

>>76587891
I use creme fraiche as a substitute for sour cream.

>>76587917
That's just the start of it, I went down the rabbit hole on nutritional labeling and what is allowed/isn't and did many experiments myself. Enjoy eating normal tortillas again, no more weird textures have a blessed day

>>76587922
Hi moxyte. I should have known it was you telling people to not eat low-carb tortillas.

I'm not buying it stop shilling it

>>76587882
Wait is this true? I'm so mad if it is these taste like shit and I've been eating them alot

>>76587917
The guy you're responding to is lying to you. Low-carb tortillas are a good choice for losing weight.

If you want healthier tortillas you can make them yourself. Here's a good carnivore tortilla recipe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR-t-R-1v5U
https://www.chriscookingnashville.com/recipe-cards?cardid=4742593015956

>>76587940
No it's not true. Carbs are fattening. Gluten is a protein and therefore isn't fattening. Fatty acids are also not fattening.

Low-carb tortillas are low-carb, therefore a good choice for weight loss.

>>76587940
I cant vouch for him but my instinct says he is probably right. A "keto approved" tortilla made with basedbean oil was bound to actually be bad for you

The guy shilling against low-carb tortillas is moxyte, by the way.

He is a mentally ill vegan who comes here to stop people from doing low-carb diets because vegans hate low-carb.

>>76587949
All processed foods are made with bad oils. Better to get the low-carb versions if you want to lose weight.

>>76587949
Okay thanks. That's pretty gay but I'll just get different ones

>>76587882
>worse tasting tortilla
Who the fuck is eating tortilla for the taste. Your taste is coming from the filling the only difference from a normal tortilla is these low carb ones are small as fuck.

Moxyte has been shilling carbs here for years but he has never posted body.

>>76588027
nigga included a quote that says excess calories and then said restricted calories

>>76587959
process these nuts in yo mouth nigga

>>76588027
How come you never made one with me?

>>76588049
Here you go you stupid cico calorie liar, you want me to stop telling the truth but you will go down in history as a fraud.

>>76588100
>>76588049
you guys should kiss each other

>>76588100
Damn time to go vegan

>tfw u have wonky proportions so even after hitting goal weight, u still look like shit
not even something building muscle could fix, its actually over

The thing is that being muscular has very little to do with the effectiveness of a diet, since it either takes roids or years or hard training to build that much muscle regardless of if you're eating carbs or not.
You could be either on keto or you could be a vegan chugging 6 scoops of protein powder a day and still be jacked. The actual effectiveness of a diet is not about how muscular you are but how easy it is to get lean, burn fat, retain muscle, and adhere long term to the diet without gaining excess fat.
(yes this means keto is superior)

>>76588100
kek

>>76588100
>>76588049
I honestly just want to see both of you make passionate love to each other because of how much you both hate each other. I feel like we should put these guys in a tight closet together for a couple of days to think and talk.

Maybe they will come out a couple.

>>76588125
Begone Fujo

>>76588126
I'm just a gay twink but you guys seem cute together.

>>76588121
when i'm done my nipples will be displaced and nothing will sort that out, i'll have to live with it

>>76586985
what might those easy ways be?

>>76588142
ozempic

>>76588132
displaced from what? loose skin?

>>76588100
Definitely not vegan, I just avoid high fat animal products. Rice potatoes and veggies ain't nobody getting fat eating them

>>76588122
>since it either takes roids or years or hard training to build that much muscle regardless of if you're eating carbs or not

Brutal self report. Haven't even been lifting for 2 years. I was already jacked after one. That's how newbie gains work, you gain the most muscle in the first year

>>76588164
oh so you actually did take roids lol

Fatty Contest
Makimas Footstool
113.15kg

>>76588177
that is not what 14% of body fat looks like
looks more like 24%

>>76588156
yeah, as i lose weight i see them shifting down

I don't know much about tdee but should my 388lb friend be eating 3000+ kcal a day to lose weight? I'm pretty sure he's letting some app tell him he's earned more calories than he should be eating.
I've got my own diet locked in but I've never been big enough to feel confident calling him out too directly, and the last thing I want is to discourage him from being mindful of his diet

>>76588177
Nawh you're just jelly. I get it tho

>>76588184
theres surgery for that, albeit you might end up with zipper tits

>only lost 100g yesterday
It's over.

>>76588177
>3 sets of tomfoolery to mild exertion

Kek

>>76588216
the average bodybuilder will gain anywhere from 7-15 pounds in their first year of lifting assuming they've never picked up weights in their life, those results are very realistic

>>76588117
ik it's a meme but it legit helped my gym performance and recovery
just figure out how to get enough protein (aka how to cook tofu) before you start

>>76587631
try a compounding pharmacy and you can get it for 200-300$ a month

>>76588231
>unironically telling people to go vegan for gains
grim

>>76588227
Completely false. The average untrained male will gain 10-25lbs of muscle in the first year of training. Of course advanced lifters gain less, they already built most of the muscle they are going to build. The average natty bodybuilder will be lucky to gain 1lb of muscle in a year if they are lucky after properly training for 10 plus years. When training properly you will reach your natural limit or close to it after 5 years that's why all these influencers are on gear, they are gaining like 12lbs of muscle 10+ years into lifting kek

>>76588188
TDEE should be estimated from lean body weight not fat weight. And your friend should be just eating zero carb to lose weight. No need to restrict calories.

8pm, I'm starving but I've already eaten for the day. Can't go to sleep for at least 3 more hours. Lord please give me strength.

>>76588227
https://bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/genetic-muscular-potential

Sorry you can't train past 7 reps in the tank homo

>>76587957
He's still seeing his redditor lover in the shadows 5 years later. It's quite sad.
>everyone who @s me is a vegan and one single person on the internet
Kys ketoschizo.

>>76588258
>eceleb website
lol

>>76588239
>MondoScience©
>DIASS (disproven and mocked by dieticians)

>>76588239
works on my machine

Beware vegan shills.

Eat meat, eggs, and full fat dairy.

>>76588271
Lyle McDonald isn't an e celeb, you're a fat dyel, NEXT!

>>76585627
How are you guys sure you're not losing muscle as well as fat? It's why I'm too worried to go on these long fasts in the first place, at least on a high prot diet the scale goes down slower but I know each number off is just fat

>>76588442
Muscle loss is greatly overblown. Watch GVS video on fasting

>>76588438
nobody cares about your ecelebs, carbschizo

>>76588446
You could learn quite a bit from Lyle McDonald and maybe make it one day but memes and sarcasm are fun too

>>76588360
Based Jewish man.

>>76588455
thanks, added to the filter

I could cut harder than I am. Feeling very impatient. But also dont want to fuck up.

>>76586846
Hit the stairmaster anon. Doesn't have to be fast. I'm using it this time around on my cut and it fucks me up

Fatty Contest
LivingGod
68.9kg
NR

>>76586760
Yep, couldn't stop thinking what I was going to eat, I thought of just cooking something ahead so I can break the fast early.

>>76588442
A little bit of weight training with fasting and you only lose fat and not muscle.

>>76588258
nigga did you only read the table

>>76588493
what does "fuck up" mean? number goes up or down, if you cut too hard and end up binging then you just lower your deficit, if your macros are shit and/or deficit too high and/or not training enough and you're becoming skinnyfat, you optimize those.

anyway is that chart in days or weeks

>>76588711
>>76588445
>trust me bro a random guy on youtube said so

Fatty Contest
Napoli
87.3

>>76587933
Literally nobody is

>>76588279
Post machine

>>76588919
Not hard to get an MD, they are dime a dozen also, you could potentially read the studies yourself, which to be clear I did not do.

>>76589901
>Not hard to get an MD
Old Moneybags McTrustfund over here.