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Previous: >>105581986

yeah fuck this. I'm going to make a card game based visual novel during work hours instead of doing all this bullshit.

Why did GCP go down on Thursday?

there are PAJEETS in this thread right now

Tomorrow is monday

>>105602529
Sirs…

>>105602557
lmao

>>105602471 (OP)
>indians took our jobs edition

>>105602594
>only non pajeet in the list is looking for another job
kek

Why can't jeets learn accent of the country they're living in? Most of them are not even trying.

Taking security + this Wednesday. Wish me luck bros. I have a job already but I’m trying to get into the fedramp team. Having this shit cert is a requirement.

>>105602652
You only see indians in the engineering positions ever.

what the fuck do you do RTO when your desk is close to your senior management and you are burnt the fuck out? Anytime I think of fun projects or shit they keep fucking peaking my screen and then they'll rope it into my job responsibilities. It's so fucking frustrating.

>>105602691
Mine was literally right in front of my boss and I just did nothing for six months.

Should I move to Hawaii?

>t. remote chad

>>105602723
but how do you not lose your fucking mind? even starring at developer forums makes me fucking go nuts

>>105602744
no, it's expensive as fuck. should live somewhere with a low cost of living and just go to hawaii on vacation every once in a while til you get sick of it

>>105602804
Yeah

>>105602671
In the UK they tend to do veey well so I think it's education related.
More importantly, why can't they learn basic competency? Or hygiene?

>>105602845
....

>"Anon why don't you come to the office more often?"
>wake up earlier
>waste an hour getting and returning from there
>feels like hell in summer because turning on the AC "makes the place feel too cold"
>open office
>shitty music 24/7
>people talking constantly about the latest shitty game, netflix show
>every 10 min there's a retard interrupting you for some bullshit
>have meetings over teams anyway
I wonder why

my base boards are super clean and beautiful.

>>105603079
>>feels like hell in summer because turning on the AC "makes the place feel too cold"
I wear jeans and a hoodie no matter the season when I go into the office

>>105602671
they form enclaves and only interact with other indians

>>105603079
I miss my fast food coworkers so much bros. My job has made me both racist and agist as fuck.

>>105603079
Do you at least have a good cafeteria? That's the only reason I go in... the food

>>105604110
NTA but we only get free food on Wednesdays

good morning /twg/-saars, do you redeem the full terms and conditions?

>>105603941
what happens tomorrow?

>>105605751
4 hours of meetings.

Good morning sirs
Are you ready for standup tomorrow? What have you been working on?

>>105606036
I've been working on avoiding suicide.
you?

>>105606051
>blocker
>mom would be sad

Hope everyone enjoyed their weekend. 11 hours until you're back to wondering why your coworker's code doesn't work and that blocking your ticket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt2DZWZJqZA

>>105602519
They said it was a null pointer, I think they're full of bullshit.

>>105602671
Pride. They think their unintelligible jeetspeak is a legitimate accent on par with British or Australian.

It's Monday! (desu I don't want to go)

>>105606051
Hey me too!
But in pmd it is never revealed what is the method.

>>105603941
Meetings are okay unless you actually have to make decisions.

engaging in degeneracy on the internet instead of getting a real job (cultivating minor skills and a modicum of resilience as boomers demanded have left me morally free from needing a full-time job for self-image(they know not what they want, and have created the worst sort of monsters; persons who let themselves --nay, are encouraged to-- become beasts rather than endure the pain of being a man))

>>105606051
>suicide
It's the enemy's job to kill you; there is no sense working for free.

learn a trade

>>105606954
>>105607044
oh no they're back

>>105602529
I am one. But I am not a codemonkey

>almost monday
please PLEASE don't do this to me

>>105607092
No thanks.

me whenever my larping goes full time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTdOHBIppx8

>>105607049
what enemy? my enemy is capitalism, yet there is no way to scape from it.

>>105607184
only the weak and incapable are enemies of capitalism, and rightfully so.

>>105607610
I'm sure you will learn in time that you are not immune to the weaknesses of capitalism
the funny thing is that by the time you realise, it will be too late for you to do anything about
so enjoy while it lasts, I guess. or read a history book. or something.

Good morning saars please do the needful saars

>I HATE ONVUE
I HATE ONVUE
>I HATE ONVUE
I HATE ONVUE
>I HATE ONVUE
I HATE ONVUE
>I HATE ONVUE
I HATE ONVUE

>>105607784
This but niggers

>>105602529
>>105602557
Yes, and?

>>105607998
Poo in loo

>>105607719
This. Muh crapitalism.kids always end up the same

>>105607719
>>105607184
>>105607610
free markets are a tool. governments need to learn not to fetishize their tools. you can favor it as your tool of choice, but sometimes you need to use something else.

hey bros, so how does one go about job hunting while still working at a company? I'm looking for my second job, so I can't tell them to call another previous employer. Does it look bad to just check no for the "can we contact your current employer" question?

>>105608157
Bro? Literally just make your own company to provide the reference? if it's not a "good enough" reference just grow the company until it is? Retard

>>105602744
my plan is the Canary Islands or Madeira. Never been to either. Guess they pay yuropoor rates though

>>105606051
>avoiding suicide

I'm too much of a limp wristed soiboi to seriously contemplate suicide, but the coming old age and deteriorating health scares the fuck out of me and sometimes wondering what is the best plan to avoid the suffering

>>105608268
invest in your health and make retirement living plans. depends on your situation of course, retirement home or close to family/community.
Nothing sadder than seeing people in their late 60s working in a grocery store or collecting bottles (which is a big thing in europe).

I hate office roasties so much it's unreal bros. Every single one of them is utterly incapable of doing the needful
>contact HR to ask a simple question
>ignored for days
>finally gets back with a long winded response why she is not going to answer the question
>acts all smug and condescending, like everyone should be thankful for her mere existence and gracing their day with a slack message

It's one thing they have never contributed anything tangible to the bottom line, and I can appreciate a lazy worker with a bad work ethic, just wish they were burning someone else time and sanity in their jira maze now with more AI+. Just a final humiliation before getting a huff of that sweet paycheck nectar. They must poison the moment

>>105608268
>the best plan to avoid the suffering
good diet, adequate sleep, just a little bit of exercise

>>105608291
money can't fix death. Lying in my shit because underpaid minorities don't give a fuck to change my diapers is not a great prospect while thinking about when the lights go out. I honestly think some mental condition like alzheimers wouldn't be too bad to drift off, but it probably affects your loved ones big time. Or something sudden and unexpected when you don't even realize what is happening and it's over in a second

>>105608348
You need to go on adventures and suffer more so you look forward to death.

>>105608348
sure, best way to go out is sudden. and dying from old age always means dying from something shit. but if you have no family to suport you, I would rather have a retirement home where the minorites are better paid to give a shit.

>>105608348
Money can in fact buy immortality if invested correctly.

>>105608419
pls elaborate, I only know of the blood donor guy who is seriously looking into life extension. Guess there are some cryofags as well, just not advertised. Unless you mean some religious solution

>>105608490
None of that. Currently it's all fraud. Cryo is more a last resort hail marry but it is important to consider it. But the important part is the research (serious research, not scams) is within grasp today. It will take about 20 years to get there with a conserted effort involving just about 50 people overall, maybe less.
The important pieces are cell state determination, cell reprogramming, and tying them together (i.e. tracing the state trajectories inverted trajectories, and using cell reprogramming to execute). There are other ways to skin the cat of course. Some companies like Loyal are, surprisingly, starting to make actual progress (despite lack of serious research), so funds there can accelerate the conclusion as well.

>Be in IT job for 4 years, basically do junior sysadmin stuff despite my lowly job title since there's only two of us
>used to be almost entirely remote, now is in office 4 days out of 5
>travel costs have skyrocketed to £350 a month or some shit
>pay is shit, about £22k a year
>really want to find something else, but the mere thought of searching for a job again is so unpleasant makes me lock up and put it off repeatedly
>also don't have any proper certs so feel like there's no chance I can get anything better even if that's almost certainly not the case.
Autism and having a modicum of integrity/conscience fucking sucks. I wish I had even a fraction of the jeets' power to lie and bullshit their way through things with zero remorse or thought whatsoever. There must be some way I can big up the things I've done here to get into a half decent position without shelling out to the certification jew.

>>105608765
Have you considered actually looking for a job

>>105608905
I have considered it heavily. Actually doing it is the hard part when you're a big cowardly retard like me.

>>105608537
thanks for the pointers, but sounds a bit like fusion or climate change, being accurate on a 20 year timeframe is hard. Since the covid vax debacle I'm even more skeptic of pharma research. Nevertheless I hope the blood donor guy jumpstarts the life extension revolution and we can all attend the daily humiliation for all eternity

>>105608765
That's quite grim anon
In your shoes I'd look at some delivery driver or similar jobs because they probably pay more, unless your current job is a comfy one where you do next to nothing.

i hate incompetence

>>105608765
hell desk interviews aren't even that bad, just suck it up and put yourself out there, you have experience so you'll be batting people off with a stick.

>>105609006
iktf

>>105608765
If you prepare well for an interview the chances of completely dropping spaghetti go down.

>>105609007
Your basic instinct on this is correct. But if you are lucid about the meaning of death as you are, what else is your money worth putting into anyway. I maintain that it is within reach, if enough money is involved, so that death can be fixed by money.

>>105609231
Getting an interview at all is the first hurdle. Second is pleasing pajeet the incompetent nepohire. Spaghettis are a distant 3rd issue.

>>105602471 (OP)
how do i get a job after 7yrs of unemployment and dropping out of CompSci degree?

>>105609231
That's the funny part actually. When I get to the actual interview I generally do quite well. It's the initial application and complete circus of getting that interview in the first place I find so offputting. Not that interviews in themselves aren't a pain in the arse too but I'm not such a spaghetti king I can't handle them.

>>105608537
Cringe. Can you not be a boomer and just have the decency to die? Also, just put your trust in Christ if you truly want to live forever instead of relying on some quasi experts to keep patching up your smelly meat vessel.

>>105609314
You go pray to your kike on a stick. Let others do the doing.

>>105609260
thanks anon, guess I just need to quickly become a billionaire first. Actually it pisses me off how the current crop of goyflayers are such boring uncreative pricks. Their best idea is to have an island where they can fuck kids. Either this, or they just very good at keeping the interesting stuff under wraps.

>chad brute is put into charge, smart enough to cause problems but stupid enough to understand nuances

fukken hell, how do they always come out on top?

>>105609399
Lol you're going to become a shriveled corpse that some jeet cleans out of the freezer to make room for cow shit.

>>105609442
ikr
Been working with this guy who just agressively shits on anyone and anything and always comes out on top. I read the famous book 'How to make friends and influence people' and while that might work for pussies, chads will steamroll over all of that.

>>105608765
>£22k a year with 4yoe
nani? are uk salaries really that bad? you'd make more than that in retail here in ireland

>>105609617
On the one hand they are, on the other I'm still underpaid especially considering what I actually do VS the job title.

>>105609617
I was on £45k pro rata at 4 years which is still kinda bad but better than that retard.

>>105609490
And you'll suck a shotgun in 5 years top

>>105607719
I'm not selfish and narcissistic enough to think I matter above everyone else and that the rules should be best for my benefit. You people are all the same.

Scrum is almost over, then Indian tech lead joins call. Gives orders to various people one after the other. No reason we all need to be here. Scrum now going on 40 minutes

>>105609305
lol

>>105608765
>>105609006
stop blaming other people for your cowardice. try finding another job or talk to your employer about your pay. you cannot be a junior sysadmin for 4 years, and you cannot get paid the same after that long...

>>105610170
LMAO, you are fucking retarded.
capitalism IS the imposition of extreme individualism onto all societies as a way to divide and conquer, and it prides itself as a system where the rules are to be taken advantage of (muh innovation, muh disruption, muh foreign policy and security to "protect" [impose] "national" interests [of capitalists]).
you think the biggest capitalistic companies got to their positions without cheating or being sustained by the power of states? look at Musk's companies. ever heard of DARPA? where do you think the "original ideas" for his business and, more importantly, FUNDING, came from?
the lolbertarian ideals are fucking retarded. capitalist societies have businesses with multiple interests, sometimes incompatible with one each other, but they will ALWAYS cooperate to extract resources from the society as a whole and to maintain their power. some sectors will always benefit above the rest, and companies will ALWAYS eat one each other to end up forming monopolies or oligopolies.

>>105611021
Capitalism does not necessarily mean globalism.

>>105611167
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
people realized that capitalism REQUIRES globalism centuries ago, and you retards keep buying the narrative LMAO.
again, go read history books or some shit, you retard.
also, remember to let me know when your country becomes 100% independent of others, of their cheap labor and resources, of their slave immigrants, without going through a huge crisis.

>>105611290
Capitalism just means who ever in your civilization follows the rules most efficiently is given more responsibility within the civilization to dispose of. Globalism is an orthogonal policy choice.

>>105611167
Capitalism is the worship of money above the people, who are you to prevent the free markets flow of low cost labour?

>>105611433
>follows the rules
*breaks the rules

>>105611021
>get glowing hot review "best employee I've ever worked with" etc
>ask for a raise I was promosed.4 months ago
>fired on the spot
You can only go through so much before you go on the defensive for the sake of survival

>>105611167
It literally does by definition
>>105611433
capitalism means that whoever has the most capital makes the rules. Do you have a single digit iq or what

>>105611021
>you think the biggest capitalistic companies got to their positions without cheating
You can only cheat by corrupting the government. Guess what, you can also cheat in communist societies by corrupting the government. Wow, your post is so insightful.

>>105611513
>You can only cheat by corrupting the government.

>>105611468
>The social norm is the problem because of people outside the social norm.
And you're calling me retarded?

>>105611550
No I'm saying the social norm is a good thing and capitalism incentivizes breaking that norm to get ahead. No I didn't originally call you retarded, I'm a different anon, but yes I am now calling you retarded.

>join a meeting so I won't have to jiggle my mouse
>incomprehensible jeet babble

@here
Hi team, good morning

>>105611433
>Capitalism just means who ever in your civilization follows the rules most efficiently is given more responsibility within the civilization to dispose of
lol. capitalism means you invest capital to get more capital. that's all. it's a never ending game of destruction, some sort of permanent revolution. you do whatever is required to get more money, at any cost.
you haven't even defined these rules you keep talking about, but I can tell you: if the "rules" mean what I think it means, going by your definition of capitalism, politicians should be considered capitalists.

>efficiently
do you know what efficiency means in the economic sense? it's not about energy efficiency. it's not even about efficiency of money.
do you think it's efficient to sell and buy apples to/from countries located thousands of miles away? because that's what current capitalism allows capitalists to do. do you know how many of those apples are wasted and thrown away? how much energy is spent on that shit, only to have a good % of it to be wasted like that?
it's about resources... and, guess who are the ones that can get the most resources? the rich and powerful.

>Globalism is an orthogonal policy choice.
you didn't even refute my point lmao.

>>105611513
>communist societies
anon, there is no government in communist societies. you might be talking about some specific form of socialism.
want to learn something? read this:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch03.htm
and realize that there were multiple forms of "socialism" more than a century ago. each group of socialists had their own interests and ideals, some were contradictory between one each other.
stop thinking about politics as white vs black.

also, if you think the game is capitalism vs communism, then you are truly brainwashed and mentally ill.

>>105611657
>stop thinking about politics as white vs black.
Yeah, it's clearly goy vs jew.

>>105611690
yeah, and guess who are the ones that have taken the most advantage of capitalism for centuries

>>105611938
Communism too of course.

The market is getting so fucked that I have indian recruiters calling me. Fuck that.

>>105612080
>good morning saar please be presenting a google play card with your resume it's standard procedure saar

>>105611526
yes, cheating means breaking the rules and the government enforces the rules dipshit

>>105612107
do not redeem the resume saaaaaar. bloody benchod

>>105611657
>and realize that there were multiple forms of "socialism" more than a century ago
if you think voluntary socialism (anarcho communism) would ever work when competitors exist that have chosen to not participate, you're dumber than the authoritarian communists who at least admit it needs to be enforced with a gun.

>>105612182
So why would you have to have corrupted the government to break the rules? People break laws without going to jail all the time, governments aren't omniscient.
What if it just wasn't illegal? For example a situation where there's limited to no government, there are still social rules but it's either not illegal or there's no government to enforce them. Why should you be allowed to sell heroin to children if it's legal for example? Why are you pretending like the government are the be-all-end-all?

>>105612080
im one year in tech and american niggers have started messaging me, shit must be desperate

>>105612310
>recruiters are struggling to get paid because every good candidate they send to the interview gets rejected
I guess this shit affects more than just tech workers.

>>105611605
morning good sir :wave:

>captcha: 2SADD

I'm losing my mind. Why does nobody want change? Why can the corporations and employers fuck us in the ass like this and we just take it? LETS STRIKE BACK

>>105612349
how email forwarding become a job is beyond me. Sure, you can boost office roastie numbers to play off some DIE requirements, but come on.
>inb4 they also trigger on keywords

>>105612381
You remember one of those old reasons for why you shouldn't work in video games?
>You're a diamond dozen, everyone and their mother wants to work in there, you're replaceable so you have low wages and long hours
That's the whole industry now.

>>105612381
Because there's 20 million jeets on standby to shart out Copilot written code that just barely functional enough to avoid (most) regulatory fines until 1 overburdened white/asian senior engineer gets around to unfucking it

>>105612419
>>105612410
WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE SUCKING DICK FOR MONEY BRO
DONT THE JEETS HATE BEING GAY?

>>105612749
Because their average wage is like $1k a year over in india, they're paid like fucking gods in our countries.

Fuck you

>>105612749
>>105612813
not to mention their culture is literally about being obedient and shat upon

>>105612381
I want change so much I'm starting my.own business. What do you suggest then?

>>105612107
>>105612349
And they get rejected cause of the indian at the workplace

>>105612860
COUGH COUGH

>>105612910
Where are we organizing then? Because it's not like solo actions will do anything

How do you guys use AI at work? Everyone is praising it as the second coming of christ everywhere and I've been using it for a while but I haven't gone beyond using chatgpt or copilot.

Pretty sure or designer is losing it, and the only reason he has not gone bald is that he already was.
Came across a ticket today where the guy was literally arguing with himself.

I just got a remote job offer of 800 euro a day as a react developer. I don't like react though.

>>105607112
Based chadjeet

>>105613056
It's a scam, I get that offer like once a week.

I'm looking for a new job but they're all asking for experience in weird technologies I've never heard of. How do you get a new job if you don't want to the exact same thing as your current job?

vibed coded

>30 degrees
>Suuuummeeerr
I cannot sleep. I wish I could sleep at the office.

Fucking squirrels woke me up at 5:30. I'm so tired now. Little shits.

>>105613559
>5:30
>That late
>Squirrels
I was already working. I did sleep with my cat on me I'm so tired. I want to hug him to calm down but it's literally like tropical jungle here his fur would stick to me

>>105613108

This ain't 2015 anymore sweetheart, your resume needs to match their stack or they aren't hiring you.

>>105613559
>>105613589
you are suffering from burnout

>>105613621
Almost all of us are, anon.

>>105613602
fn main() {
let current_year = 2025;
let resume_stack = vec!["React", "Rust", "Docker"];
let company_stack = vec!["Rust", "TypeScript", "Docker"];

if current_year != 2015 {
println!("This ain't 2015 anymore, sweetheart.");

if !resume_matches_stack(&resume_stack, &company_stack) {
println!("Your resume needs to match their stack or they aren't hiring you.");
} else {
println!("You're good to go! Stack matches.");
}
}
}

fn resume_matches_stack(resume: &Vec<&str>, company: &Vec<&str>) -> bool {
company.iter().all(|tech| resume.contains(tech))
}

>>105613628
True. thats why i only work 1 hour max these days

You won't ever be truly aware of how impressively dogshit Indian code is until you see what they do on the front end

>>105613650
list 4 examples

css fuckery?

>>105613443
kek'd. it's even worse if you notice that phone numbers usually are tied to an area, so knowing where the target user lives might be enough to bruteforce a bunch of numbers and find them, so this leaks user info to a degree. if that shit is displayed as part of the email recovery process, then over lmao

>>105613589
>>5:30
>>That late
nta but I wake up at 9am lmao

>>105613661

They are initializing every single component and dialog element together rather than as needed with contained scopes, binding all of the variables together across components so components can change the values of variables in other components, and forcing us to actively and manually manage their state like some kind of horrific global garbage collector. This codebase is so toast

>>105613661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_Dp4nMr_AY

>>105613689

ex.

You initialize dialog 1, which has child dialog components 2 and 3, which are both auto initialized when 1 is initialized even though they aren't being used yet, and all of these dialogs share binded variables that have to be actively synchronized across all 3. When dialogs 2 or 3 are closed they don't have their properties reset like a typical class/component, you have to manually reset each property to its default value so that when they are reopened it isn't polluted with whatever happened the last time it was opened.

>>105613714
so they generate fast and efficient code instead of the typical newage bullshit you retarded webnigger do by properly initializing to avoid delays and properly reusing state instead of allocating 999 objects (which never get deallocated until the page is closed because that is how browser js works)? Doubtful really.

>>105613752

It isn't fast and efficient at all, it's bloated and buggy as fuck and impossible to debug. Literally lose lose lose lmao. They are paying me $160k a year to have to sit here and spend 3 days figuring out which of the hundreds of retarded binded methods and variables are causing a dropdown to auto populate itself. This would have taken me about 1 hour at my first mom and pop SaaS using JQuery 10 years ago.

How do people go about breaking into another field? If I am a network engineer, how would I go get a chance to go into lets say cloud, security, etc. if my current job has nothing to do with these? I could get certs, but this would just be paper experience and I find it hard to believe places would hire just off those.

>>105613779
You can't even write english correctly. You're obviously yet another overpaid DEI hire. This is why it takes you days to figure out things that seemingly isn't a problem even to jeets.

>>105613795
It used to be a simple matter of applying and talking about your projects (if even that) but nowadays it is impossible and nothing you do can change that sadly.

>>105613805

It is a problem because this company is currently overloaded with a mountain of bugs and angry clients and they have a front end that needs a straight up rewrite. In a typical orderly white man company we would be refactoring all of this so that we COULD develop faster, efficiency is an alien concept to you street shitting donkeys.

Take a good look at this picture. It's Indian electrical work. Analogous to their code. They "worked fast." They "delivered." And they did it for much cheaper. They didn't take a single moment to deliberate, to reason, to think about crafting a standard and a structure that could allow for some order, some decoupling, an efficient routine and process so that adding new wires could be trivial, removing old wires could be trivial, and fixing existing wires could be trivial. No, they just rushed and splattered wire after wire on top of each other, "quickly", until it became a mountain of untenable, dysfunctional dogshit that is hard to add to, hard to delete from, and impossible to fix. This is Indian software, and our collective future!

>>105612410
>A diamond dozen

>>105613973
Hey man, there's lots of workers now, there's tough competitiion in this industry, it's a doggy dog world.

>study some subject in tech for a ~2 months
>achieve passable proficiency
>get a job
>get comfortable in that job and completely lose interest
>do the bare minimum to avoid getting fired
>skills stagnate
>get fired
>newfound spare time, and poverty looming
>study some subject in tech for ~2 months
>achieve passable proficiency
>get a job
>etc, rinse and repeat
sometimes I think this really isn’t my field, but the pay is crazy enticing.
who else /stuck/?

>>105613805
"things" is plural so you use "aren't", not "isn't", also you're missing a comma between "problem" and "even" but you most likely intended to mean "aren't even a problem to jeets"

It's funny how ESLs are always so quick to unmask themselves when they screech about other's English proficiency, since they consider knowing it a skill instead of just a default mode of being

Why does it feel like there are two types of SWEs now, there are a bunch of people waking up, checking on their 20 AI agents, reviewing PRs, and then reprompting most of them, then doing nothing the entire day but checking notifications. Then another side just uses copilot and code and be done.

I went to the office today, there's so many attractive women walking around, it's fucking depressing

>>105614365
Depressing because you can’t touch them or depressing because they’re making your salary while making TikTok day in the life videos?

>>105614467
I get sad when I'm around attractive and sociable people because I'm ugly and have no friends

I don't like any of my coworkers. None of them are chill at all.

>Start working as a contractor for a company
>Tech stack is a mix of ALL THE CLOUDS PROVIDERS + homebrew solutions everywhere, even when popular open source ones already exist.
>Onboarding is a PITA, manager doesn't exactly know the steps I should take, asks me to "figure it out and ask people who have done it recently", even if onboarding are different because we focus on different areas.
>At the same time wants me to own a project in 2-4 weeks from now
WTF, is this normal? First time contracting and this is the first time I'm having to deal with such a shitty start. Nothing seems straightforward, it's basically an overengineered shitfest.

>>105614596
>At the same time wants me to own a project in 2-4 weeks from now
>WTF, is this normal?
No. You could've been hired to fire though.

>>105602519
The jeet sourcing is about to catch up to them.

>>105606846
was this is in geometry dash? lol

My friends think I'm an insane workaholic because I spend time on the weekends programming/studying

My coworkers think I'm lazy and disinterested because I only code as a hobby/study for a few hours on the weekend

>>105614596
Sounds like the company I work for now

I honestly don't give a shit about software engineering or anything tech related anymore.
Absolutely zero drive to learn to learn anything new, new pattern, new tech stack, new language.

Just fucking fire me. I don't know why it doesn't work on your machine and i don't have any way to find out.

>>105614961
FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT

>look up headquarters of where i'm interviewing at
>it's further away than where i currently work
i have been cursed to a life of hour+ long commutes
i can't stand it anymore
one day im going to drive in opposite traffic and let jesus take the wheel

>>105614961
>>105614971
"Uh it's telling me 'dependency issues'"

Nigga you literally have to run 1 command

>>105614596
yes, all modern tech solutions are made up by a mixture of borderline illiterate mba types and "techies" who are incapable of reading a manual so they need 90 layers of cancerware to achieve something normally handled by windows group policy and has been since XP

They hired some new guy for my department. He set a "sexy" roblox character for his teams icon, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't know how to read since I have not seen him at his PC even once not using a TTS program.

>>105615315
Many such cases. The price we pay for having closed schools for 2 years.

>>105613826
all of this being your fault since as you said the pajeets have no problem and you take days just to locate functions

>>105615216
>talks about tech competency
>uses wangblows
lmao
the world runs on linux, nocoder

>>105615363
the world runs on illiterate "white collar" workers like finance and HR who tend to use windows

>>105615363
>onboarding
>specifically talking about user workstations for non-tech people

>HURRRR LINUX SUPREMASY

regarded larper

>adulted at a start up for the first time
>they use Apple computers
>my search engine is shit like "how to right click on mac", "how to copy/paste on mac" and "how to move files on mac"
They're going to think I'll technologically illiterate...

>>105615584
>my search engine is shit like "how to right click on mac", "how to copy/paste on mac" and "how to move files on mac"

>>105613443
>2 factor authentication but you don't need a second device
This is true innovation!

>>105602471 (OP)
haven't looked at my resume in about 3 years and never put it through any sort of AI scorer or anything. Is that something I should do now that HR roasties just put every resume through ai checkers before they read them? if so which ones are the best to use?

>>105613443
this is beautiful.

>>105615825
no one has gotten a job by simply submitting a resume in 10 years

>>105615870
I did in 2022

>>105615870
You'll have to update me on the new ways, because I was just laid off lmao

>>105615936
go on welfare and perish in a drive-by

>>105615942
Can't argue that, sounds like a plan

>do something at work
>boss increases scope to 2-3x its capabilities
>anytime I push back it's just deal with it
>team lead is too much of a pushover because of fucking lay offs that he won't say how bullshit this is.
>work ends up in corporate limbo
>do nothing at work
>lead talks to me about his tasks but doesn't delegate them so I'm just there nodding my fucking head going uh huh uh huh have you tried x, have you tried y.
>can't fully afk because they keep randomly calling me to get my opinion then completely disregard it anyways
god this is so frustrating man. give me literally something I can do that's achievable god fucking damn it. I hate how I get thrown projects that are just "uhh upper management wanted our UI completely changed and AI to be added into everything" with no requirements nor any staff to talk to on how the change wants to be implemented.

>>105615936
Get drunk, listen to this, vibe code a startup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cHwb8tOEHM&list=RD0TptEzY6w40&index=11

>>105616082
I've fully considered throwing together some random startup and trying to sell it off to some company, but I'm a shit coder. Been years

>>105615131
>Nigga you literally have to run 1 command
YES I KNOW BUT I DON'T KNOW WHICH BECAUSE I HAVE NO VISIBILITY INTO HOW IT'S BREAKING!!!!

Oh my god I look forward to getting fired.

>>105616088
>but I'm a shit coder.
Only will power and high level stuff like repo maintenance and systems architecture matters now.

>>105615551
>>105615363
The world runs on macs with insanely broken IS configurations where if you accidentally hit the wrong shiny button you're instantly fired for sending things to apple but it's still a mac so you have to do everything by sshing to a Linux machine somewhere anyway.

The world runs but only barely because it's run by retards.

>>105616159
with each passing year i want to buy an empty lot near town and just build an a-frame hut and graze a goat on the lawn and shit. "tech" is a spook(as in is a nigger)

5 yoe data engineer
meta recruiter reached out and i passed the technical screen

can i get the qrd on meta? is it all jeets? is it dying?
i am totally clueless about the tech industry, i just work for my big financial company remotely and dont talk to anyone

>>105616471
>and i passed the technical screen
how the fuck did you do that? I always fail the faang technicals.

>>105602744
I grew up there and the only way I'd consider moving back is if I somehow got enough money to buy a beachfront mansion. And even then I'd probably move to Malibu or something instead.

>>105616536
>how the fuck did you do that? I always fail the faang technicals.
i prepped all weekend? idk

>>105616042
>>can't fully afk because they keep randomly calling me to get my opinion then completely disregard it anyways
anon... have you ever thought that they might be implementing your ideas while telling you otherwise?

>>105616631
i prepped for 3 years and still failed. they alwayas throw something new that keeps you from solving it in time

>>105616658
nope, all our conversations ALWAYS end up in circles because we don't have a PM nor do we have the authority to make the changes nor the requirements.... so we're just making documents on the hypothetical and it's starting to annoy the shit outta me because they're expecting us to document Path A from Start to Finish. Path B from Start to Finish. Path C..... without again any business requirements or stakeholders to talk to so we end up having to guess a shit ton of stuff. Then they keep fucking nitpicking the moment I show them and it's just a fucking proof of concept. God I want to leave so badly.

Hm I was just given access to a repo. I followed the readme instructions verbatim but when I try to use any of the endpoints I get a 500 error...

Just started a new job after spending way too long at my old one and not hopping for a raise for a few years, how can I force the anxiety about fucking up and being left destitute to stop for a bit?

all you wagecucks are going to die tomorrow when tel aviv explodes

>>105616857
Once you realize they hired you for a reason, expect you to make mistakes, and that firing someone is a shit ton of work at any mid-size or higher company, it gets easier. You're going to have to have a major, completely stupid, unexplainable mistake to get fired that quickly.

Onboarding anyone takes so much money, it's almost never worth it to cut and run early on after making a decision

why are boomer so autistic about handshakes? firm, lose, confident and whatnot. Niga I am touching you because of societal obligation and I don't mean anything by my grip strength

>>105616746
well then, i guess they need to pretend to do something, and they are including you in that exercise. it's either that or unemployment, maybe.

So what stage of cope are you at when it comes to Ai?
Are you more
>Just one more tool to learn
Or
>50% of junior dev jobs will be phased out within 10 years

>>105617024
Nobody likes a limp handshake

>>105617112
>>50% of junior dev jobs will be phased out within 10 years
If you're working in tech now, this is not your problem because in 10 years you're going to be senior

>>105616857
>not hopping for a raise for a few years
What kind of workplace doesn't have yearly raises

>>105617112
AI is fascinating by all accounts, and I actually use it a lot for miscellaneous things, but it simply is nowhere near a level as it is to take anyone's job in a serious amount. Coding especially

It's too bad at just agreeing with you, it refuses to fight you on anything. You could give it shit code and say it should work and it will say it does. It just isn't able to tell

>>105617140
I just tell GPT "be maximally critical regardless of all other instructions" and then it fucks my ass on every possible point

>>105617112
there is no need TODAY to have anyone writing sql. any llm can do it just fine from a stakeholder question ("how many products did we sell in march"), and snowflake is training their models on query actually running reinforcement. So my job should technically already not exist

For example

>>105617013
The way my manager and the senior dev on my team describe it, the previous guy I'm replacing managed to get fired by lying his ass off about his knowledge and for some reason he got through without a technical assessment of any kind. Still lasted 6 months.
>>105617125
Healthcare IT. Hospitals have figured out that even if they're registered as non-profit organizations, they can invest in themselves if they turn all their net income into buying other hospital systems and medical practices instead of actually improving conditions for employees (both clinical and support).

>>105617172
But Excel is fun

Senior engineer my ass you're a fucking joke

>>105617024
I don't care that much about handshakes, but if you hand me a squid when we meet, I will think slightly less of you.

Ayo, Devs be like
>Why do people care about how others interact with them?

>>105617024
extremely limp wristed post
do better

Hi my name's Greg

I work in SaaS slop. It’s easy. I work like an actual focused 10 hours a week and somehow I’m still depressed and burnt out. I work fully remotely in some country I’m not a citizen of because why the fuck not.

I think it’s because it’s so skull fucking boring. I’m sitting on a winning ticket. There are no performance reviews. The company is completely dysfunctional. I want to leave. I hate the professional managerial class of people. They are like fucking flies that never go away. These people provide negative value to society. We solve no real problems.

Should I just completely stop giving a fuck? I feel like shit because this stuff is so fucking boring that I can’t even be bothered doing easy shit.

Oh no the poor fella feels bored at his easy office job
Go into construction and come crawling back, weeping on dusty, broken hands

Do employers care if you use something like Gitlab or Codeberg over Github for resume purposes? I'm guessing they don't check even the real thing often, but I'd prefer not to outright donate code to Winjeet if I don't have to

>>105618078
Why should I compare myself to some uneducated retard?

>>105618139
Why should an uneducated retard compare himself to some depressed sperg?

>>105618231
You’re just pointing out that this is truely a false equivalence? Lol.

>>105618264
*Truly

>>105618307
>>105618307
>>105618307
>>105618307
>>105618307

Here’s that dopamine you’re looking for.

>>105615551
'runs' is not the right word here and they still use wangblows only as a thin client to operate software served from linux

>>105616536
he's a jeet so the jeet interviewers gave him the jeeterview instead of the fake version they give everyone else.

Sitting the AI-102 because I got given a free attempt from some Microsoft event I attended.

I was already entirely ambivalent about the AI hype but it's really hammering home the fact that tech hasn't excited me since Microsoft Encarta.

>>105618792
Ok boomer

>>105618800
Solid input, thank God you were here.

>>105602594
> web dev
> engineer

>>105618810
>dev
>engineer
KEK

collegfag here
I need an internship here to graduate
people who worked with interns, what do you expect from them? how to not fuck it up? assume I have better reading comprehension skills than a rock and I don't need to be told things twice

>>105618901
Back in my days the base expectation was that an intern is fully capable of independently shipping a small feature or to fix a bug within a couple of weeks at most. Nowadays the standard is for an intern to not know how to program.

>>105618919
Ok boomer

When is it going to be my turn to have a cute CCP/GRU spy gf assigned to me?

>>105619011
When you're competent enough to warrant one

I have nothing left here. What southeast asian country do i as a pale white euro move to to live out the rest of my days?

>>105619099
Nobody wants to do the actual work. For managers that's the default state.

>>105618810
Some people will call anything an engineer.
I once saw a PM position get called engineer.

>>105619671
I'm just tired of every job ad being a full stack "engineer". I'm tired of all the web garbage. I'm tired of electron, node and all the other bs that appeared over the last 20 years and most of all I'm tired that it's all pajeets every. Single. Time. And when you go to the company's website they can never explain what they do.

My company is integrating with another company's product and we have a meeting today to discuss the process.
I just saw the meeting invite and it's 3 jeets from their side. With jeet names and in IST.

Wish me luck bros

>>105619671
This
My company calls some people in HR "Benefit Engineers"

>>105619695
You can't escape web, even back end jobs are in nodejs rather than an actual language. You will use the javascript and you better have years of production experience in it or you're getting auto-rejected (with no email).

>>105616042
>team lead is too much of a pushover
>because of fucking lay offs
I'm thinking that's the plan

>>105619723
I don't mind javascript as a language it's the retards using it I have a problem with.

>>105619695
I'd be happy to work on a nodejs API if it meant not having to do any front end web shit.
Can't take it anymore.

>>105619713
> letting jeet code integrate with yours
Bring a suicide vest and end it now.

>>105619099
I've had some meetings in which it's 30 minutes of literal non-stop talking. No moments of silence, just people taking turns talking over each other

>>105619115
I've heard Thailand can be nice.

>>105618109
You're lucky if they even look at your side projects. I had one github repo actually linked to from my resume and the guy interviewing me didn't believe I wrote it.

>>105617167
If someone doesn't know sql they likely don't know how to normalize a database properly either which is a way bigger issue.
At least you can refactor code but migrating a poorly normalized database in production is a nightmere.

>>105616922
I made an incredible amount of money off the "nothing ever happens" trade Monday.

Is Iran shooting rockets at the US? No. No one cares.

>>105619789
There are retards on the back end too. Trust me.

My manager is attempting to provoke me into a reaction with pointless aggressive comments, but I refuse to provide her with the ammunition to claim I don't work well with others

"Did Megan say you could call her Meg?"
"Say JIRA, not TICKET"
"Don't use the word 'Novel' when presenting to developers"
"I don't think you were chatty enough when presenting those requirements"
"It wasn't very nice when you replied to that developer with 'yep' " (unsurprisingly the dev wasn't offended, because people say yep)

>>105618078
Construction is physically harder yes, but you're building actual tangible things with your real physical body rather than juggling with abstractions, so monkey brain is much happier. Work also ends when you go home.

I think I would have been better off going into trades sometimes.

I hate my job
Job is your life
If you hate your job you hate your life
Kill me

At what point did you accept everyone you work with, specially upper management, is a full blown retard and there is no point in trying to make things right and you should just join the ride, add to the absolute cobweb of bullshit your company is, lead back and enjoy the spectacle?

>>105620067
I've been building my own house. I wish construction paid as much as software, I'd switch. The problems are so straight forward.

>>105620018
Play an uno reverse and take her comments to HR.

>>105619961
Taking cute ladyboys out for dinner and then playing vidya with them at my place without sex it is

>>105620067
I worked construction and similar physical jobs while I was a student and it was by itself enough motivation not to drop out because i loathed the possibility of having to do this the rest of my life
It may be fun in the beginning but it consumes you fast

>>105620109

About ~5 months in

>>105619247
Nah, I'm convinced it is about them trying to convince themselves that they are being useful. Like, you go in a meeting that's allocated to a 1 hour time slot, but you discuss everything in 10 minutes, and then they keep baiting people into asking shit even though everything is in order and there's nothing else to discuss. There are people who do this and there are people who realize this is a good sign because everything is ok and end the call.
>>105619910
That happens too, but at least in that case, there is something important to discuss, so it's not just idle talk (hopefully). I think it is better to get shit done and discussed outside of meetings whenever you can thoguh.

>>105620109
From the start.

>>105620242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK43Ureuiqc
There is truth to the idea that you feel more accomplished once the day is done however.

it's over

>>105619759
yeah no shit. i wish he did a better job of hiding it rather than tanking my morale.

>>105620420
Top of the morning saar

So the SME is out sick and I've been given permissions to deploy code into dev and date, but I was never shown how the fuck to do that and the sprint is ending soon.
Oh god oh fuck

>>105620474
Uat*
Autocorrect ai slop just makes my grammar even worse, holy hell

ktim

>>105620109
Very quickly, but the twist is that I will get blamed and fired while HR and management will keep riding the gravy train.

>>105620544
Pretty sure they'll get rid of me as soon as they can because I've called everyone from upper management on their bullshit many times.

>>105620544
this :D
I'll intentionally play dumb because nobody seems to know anything then they look at me and go WHY DIDNT YOU POINT IT OUT and im just like WHY DIDNT YOU?

>>105620109
I think my coworkers and management are alright for the most part, i'm a year in but more senior devs also seem fairly enthusiastic

>>105619695
The fact that javascript is considered a real language to market for shows had bad the market is right now. no one should be using such a shitty language in the first place. Java nor javascript, but there's a reason those are packed with jeets. And now they're trying to push Rust as the C++ replacement to have jeets be able to program in critical systems without them fucking everything up due to needing higher iq to manage such code. Thankfully, they can't do that cause they are making planes fall out of the sky programmed in Rust.

>spend a week solving a home assignment
>do everything right
>do even the extra tasks
>a week later get a automatized email rejection
i think im on the brink of dropping this whole thing and going to try to be a musician or doing something other, anything really. I wasted my whole youth learning programming, have a masters, i know how to code and i still can't get a job

>>105620941
listen man, there's 4 ways of making money
>being a corporate cuck
>scamming the poor
>scamming the rich and going to jail
>actually doing what you love and never work a day in your life.

Do number 4.

>>105620945
Naw man but fr the amount of disrespect, ghosting, overall scumminess ive witnessed from companies, HR and interviewers is inhumane and beyond any managable amount.
Its not like the money is that good here in europe, money is trash, they are simply looking for good goy slave who will bend the knee and pick up the peanuts from the floor for 20 years until hes too old to be employed ( without pension ofc)
Im already doing music for most of the time ive been unemployed for the last year, i think ill just continue doing that, im getting better, i dont have much plays but couple of songs got some recognition and i have couple of sales on bandcamp.

Am I rightfully annoyed at getting 9AM/1PM/4PM meetings? My boss really likes this time and I'm just internally "fuck you"

>>105620976
As I said do number 4. Number 1 is for normies who can't do anything better. Number 2 is for business fucks who are actual sociopaths. Number 3 is for the brave and stupid. Number 4? That's just accepting and being happy with how life is.

>>105620976

Sad reality m8 but the entire world decided they wanted to program so now it's flooded with dogshit

>>105620941
I once wrote a several thousand word essay, sent it late at night and was moved to the next interview stage the next morning. These twats 100% did not read a single word of it.

>>105620109
It took me 10 years.
I was the guy keeping everything afloat, now I'm burnt out and don't give a shit anymore.

>>105620984
Can't do what makes you happy when that requires having money you can't have while soing the thing that makes you happy.

who could possibly give a fuck about anything at this point?

>>105618049
I know it’s sort of a tired meme
But if you genuinely work for so little hours, the best thing to do is leverage your spare hours to do something else. Your “own thing”.
Learn a skill you have a genuine interest in, tech related or not. Put money aside for it specifically. Study like an hour a day and spend the remaining time hacking shit together. Network with people doing it (important!). You can always just do things brah, have some fun with it.
This outlook makes me appreciate how much freedom a handsomely paying WFH joke job affords me while also opening the door to an exit plan if that’s the move. Try not to get lost in the comfort of easy money. Make it work for you. Hope this helps fag

>>105621325
Does it really? Hell man, money is a social construct dude. Just get out there if you become homeless be homeless but be happy

>>105618049
what the fuck i didn't post this

>>105617172
So the way it criticizes you is just subjective nonsense you could get from /g/?

>>105619720
Lmao, wtf
Might as well call janitors “custodial engineers” at this point

>>105621586
Please tell me how to access a mass spectrometer and a steady supply of nitrogen, cell culture, terrific broth, assorted chemicals, pipette tips, and ngs equipment while I am homeless.

Anyone else have difficulty trying to offshore tasks? I try to offshore tasks that way I can focus more on certain things, but still end up having to constantly check over it.

I get a sense that a lot of offshore devs don't really understand what the goal actually is. Like they'll understand the language, but they won't really understand the product.

>>105621698
Maybe pick something easier.

>>105618049
i'd agree with >>105621534
My biggest problem though is when projects go and come back like a fucking boomerang because man nobody has a fucking PM/BA and my supposed "PO" (my boss) can't fucking organize tasks/projects to save his life. So I'm twiddling my thumbs while shit is slowly burning and I'm just like "alright don't care you're not asking for my help and you're just making my life difficult by overcomplicating shit so fuck this man, once you think the fire fucking starts burning everything, go give me a call."
The biggest problem is he'll just keep randomly calling me throughout the day to go "oh hi, we have a fire, oh hi we have a fire" no solution, no actionables. so I don't even bother. keep the fire bro I'm just going to watch some anime damn it.

>>105621947
ao now I shouldn't make what makes me happy?

>new hire vibe coded all over my codebase again
What's even the point of trying to write scalable and maintanable code when new hires will just graft AI shit into your code and undo all of your carefully thought out decisions? The motherfucker even had the gall to send me a message telling me the code that has been working for years and has been tested God knows how many times "just isn't working man".
The company really needs to start paying more if they expect me to babysitting new hires, this isn't what I signed up for.

>>105622105
sorry man, should've picked something easier.

anyone want to share their list of fallback careers?

>>105622700
Professional cliff jumper.
The pay is rock bottom but you're guaranteed to land the job.

>>105622313
Is their code in review or did someone else merge it? Or did the vibe chadder just go ahead and merge his own PR? In any case, pick the most obviously AI-generated function and ask them to explain it.

>>105621191
>10 years
Quite some patience you have. After 5 years I already want to quit and never touch a computer again.
So far I'm just slacking off here.

>>105622700
ive never even had another job besides tech work
and this shit is so life consuming that i don't have time to learn anything else
i have nothing

>>105622836
I feel you. Been playing vidya/jerking off on company time since January.
I still like programming, though, and work on a personal project on and off.
Every other job sucks even more in comparison, not only because it pays less, but because it involves a lot more interaction with "people".

>2 years experience, laid off, not having much luck.
>Spoke to recruiter recently, told me I'm basically fucked
Apparently
>Overqualified for Junior, because the assumption is you'll dip within a year of being hired for something better
>Underqualified for Mid, because while you probably have the skills to do the job at this point, there are others with 3-5 YoE applying for the same jobs

fuck
Chat is this real?

>>105622968
Cook the CV and add an extra year or two.

>>105622968
>Underqualified for Mid, because while you probably have the skills to do the job at this point, there are others with 3-5 YoE applying for the same jobs
You mean 8-10 YoE.

>>105623066
>>105623066
>>105623066
>>105623066

>>105622700
I liked stocking shelves during uni. I would do it full time if it paid a tech salary.

>>105622968
Yeah that sounds about right.

>>105622842
same brother. its starting to get unnerving how invested i am becoming as i get older, and how bad the markets are getting. where i live in particular is one of the worst income to cost of living ratios in the US. i cant just go and get another job that pays a living.

desu should have just studied something in healthcare