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Previous: >>105829086

Sprint ceremony meetings are going to drive me to do something very irrational.

>>105848429 (OP)
>>105848144
Thanks :3

>want to quit
>switch to "open to work" on li
>didn't even put the dumb banner, only recruiters can see me
>already 2 recruiter chicks 7am the next day
>they both asked me if I'm familiar with microservices
Fucking hell I'm just gonna lie about it next time. They both had the exact same questions:
>docker? kubernetes? cloud? microservices? backend framework?
I don't think anything will ever come out of this shit, but it is worth a try. I will have to give up on 3 remote days and lower it to 2 which sucks.

>in a call with coworkers
>on company VPN, dns for this one specific internal domain isnt working
>coworkers tell me to share my screen
>"do ipconfig /all"
>"okay now do nslookup"
>they are all confused
>"is your home router overriding dns?"
>probably, let me try disabling it
>10.0.0.1
>Fortigate login logo appears
>log in to a Fortigate 60F
>coworkers are confused

learn a trade

Not even at 3 YoE and this shit is consuming my soul already. I blame boomers and women.

I wish I could have a prompt that pops up when someone messages or emails me saying "motherfucker I'm not clairvoyant, actually go into detail on what your problem is"

>>105848760
Surely outlook has something to that affect. The real cause of the problem is the work experience. I have far to many people who want less details from me then not. Often times they say "get to the point" but when i send it up to more senior people i have to give them everything and anything related to the problem or they will outright ignore it/delete it as some minor issue.

>>105848760
>works in tech
>doesn't know how to automate stuff
brainlet

>grifted his way into billionaire status with literally zero accomplishments to his name
I generally like Paul Graham, but what the fuck was Paul Graham thinking, falling for this hustler?

>>105848571
There are 120 eyes in your picture I counted them

>>105848833
Name one billionaire that didn't get there by grifting

>>105848832
OOOHHH IMMA AUTO MATE

>>105848895
Jim Simons, Paul Graham, Warren Buffet, the Google Guys, the Ebay Guy, ... actually most of them.

>live in EU
>get paid in USD
get your shit together, burgers. I didn't steal one of your jobs to live like a peasant around here.

>>105848760
just schedule a meeting with them so they can show you via screen sharing and clarify what the problem is

Do any of you have any stories regarding jeets?

>>105848958
I quit my last job because I ended up with a jeet manager after a reorg. He lied constantly and undermined me at meetings and I got sick of it.

>>105848429 (OP)
Had a checkup at the company, see how I am doing, get feedback and see if I have any problems or issues that might nag on me.
I think I am gonna apply to them after my retraining is completed.
Sadly, I am not quite sure what this new position is gonna be called, so I will most likely just prepare what makes sense and find out the rest as I get into more talks.

Kinda weird that after 5-10 years of bad luck and good deeds met with punishments I might actually look forward to work with them.

Nonetheless I kinda fucked myself for being more interested into automation and programming to the point the company has split my time up to serve three lords that pay in knowledge and training.
System administration, development (automation/full-stack) and help desk while getting crushed by school classes and cert training.
I hope I can do it and have a degree at the end, because they really only acknowledge you for your papers and then look into your skillsets.

>Inb4 what you use there.
Angular, c#, powershell and some Infrastructure as code.

I just hope I find opportunities for projects that are relevant to my actual training (integrating systems, hands on. Project management, as expanded and well documented as possible for further project introduction and defence) and I can pass it.

>>105848958
>Do any of you have any stories regarding jeets?
Sure
>apply to big bank
>someone reaches out to me for an interview
>its a jeet
>i give them a range of days and a range of times that work for me
>no response
>they dont pick a day
>they just randomply call me
>i can tell its them because the number is coming from india
>i wasnt prepared so i missed it
>i email them telling them "I havent heard from you, shall we schedule for another time?"
>no response

>>105848958
i work with three

two of them are bright but when it comes to actually doing work its like their brain turns off and they want you to tell them what to do

the third one actually works hard but gets pissed off at any minor criticism

>>>105843284
We live in a world where working with Python is a prestigious assignment.

Makes me wonder what is the caste system for programing languages.

>>105848943
>schedule a meeting
If you do this I will kill you

>>105848913
>Made with love

how do You control Your BCG while working from home?she just will not stop provoking my BWC...

>>105848913
kek

>>105849193
>two of them are bright but when it comes to actually doing work its like their brain turns off and they want you to tell them what to do
what the fuck are you even trying to say lmao. do you really judge people by what they say instead of their actions?

me, an embedded programmer, daily schedule & workload
>8:00am -- wake up and shit my guts out (thanks fiber)
>8:30am -- log in and start answering emails/chats from overseas
>9:00am -- prostrate to the cum master over Teams
>9:30am -- continue working
>12:00pm -- lunch, fap, then drive to work
>1:00pm -- panic around the lab because prototype devices are misbehaving again
>4:00pm -- meal break for a bit before resuming work
>6:00pm -- second cum meeting of the day (now with chyna)
>6:30pm -- send out final emails and handoff work to different timezones, then drive home
>8:00pm -- anime and games i guess
>10:00pm -- meetings with india (varies)
>11:00pm -- chug fiber and sleep
guess my pay

>>105848760
>Coworker messages with "hey"
>I don't answer because I'm in the middle of something else
>Same coworker messages "hey" a couple of hours later
>I'm a little annoyed so I just say "hey" back
>He immediately follows up with a Teams call
Okay we really need to teach better communication skills because that shit is so unbearable.

>>105849238
$500,000

>>105848958
>working for fortune 100 company
>they have been firing domestic employees for overseas jeets for the past few years
>manager (jeet) comes to me, says im supposed to be on the on-call schedule and i keep getting removed from the ldap group for some reason and he is tired of having to keep re-adding me
>tells me to open a support ticked
>i open the ticket, clarify that the problem isnt not being in a group but that some process is auto-kicking me from the group and its a recurring problem
>jeet takes the ticket
>"hello sar i have added to group"
>jeet closes ticket
>i reopen the ticket, re-stating the problem
>another jeet takes it
>"good day sar you are already in group"
>jeet closes ticket
>i reopen the ticket
>jeet takes the ticket
>holds onto it for a week
>no response he just closes it
>i reopen it, ask for escalation
>for the next 3 months at least 15 different jeets play hot potato with the ticket passing it off to eachother
>they occasionally close the ticket and i have to reopen it but not always
>problem is never solved
>all of a sudden im told to join a sudden morning meeting
>mass layoff, im affected
>severance contract specifically mentions i cant work for them for a year unless its as a contractor for Accenture
>Companies contract with Accenture is a 1 billion $ contract specifically for off-shore IT workers
tldr; company uses useless jeets and laid myself and others off for the same useless jeets

how do You control Your BCG while working from home?she just will not stop provoking my BWC...

>>105848429 (OP)
>When small talk with a coder goes hilariously off-script
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/G5AOAnbqRNM
here's an answer to why everyone prefers Pajeets to american nerds.

>>105848571
I still remember when people called out 'cloud' and 'backend', terms are stupid af. So it was inevitable they will be industry standard
>vibe coding
>ai jockeys
die already

>>105849252
yes, that's how much i make in ~5 years
silicon valley btw
never fucking fall for the "le built in america" meme, they pay you literal cafeteria worker wages while demanding impossible qualifications and workloads

>you shouldn't marry a tech stack

Yes very cool but how are you supposed to sell yourself when dealing with recruiters who don't know that?

>>105849238
I have an EE degree from like 8 years ago and about to have a CS degree from studying on the side

Should I just cut the crap and look into a jr embedded role

>>105849292
Ironically, the cafeteria workers in my office are all normal ass americans while all the tech guys are...not.
Really makes you think!

>>105848935
usd to euro is biggest crab of all time. it being on par with euro was unusual

>live like a peasant around here.
brother... the average home size is like 1/3rd compared to america and it costs like twice as much per sq foot. not to mention 50% taxes and salaries hard capping at 80k. doctors in most european countries make like 60k usd a year.

euros should be revolting with how bad it sounds like the working class gets fucked over. imagine going to school for 12 years and getting worked to death in a hospital to live in a 900 sq foot condo lol

>>105849273
She's the awkward nerd, not him.

>>105849273
Nathan is based though

>>105849332
The home size isn't necessarily a bad thing if you also get a lot of nice amenities and benefits from the place you're working at. Also the building could still be well made with high grade materials.
But yeah my opinion is that workers everywhere do need to be paid more. We're all getting fucked.

>literally every good frontend offer in my area asks for 3+ yoe with typescript and testing
>mfw watching those chapters from an udemy course without writing a loc while drinking beer then listing 3 yoe in my resume
You don't need 3 years to understand that shit

I am simply here to voice my displeasure at being forced to work with indians

>>105849238
Embedded? Easy.
$20/hr

>>105848832
I am too lazy to automate stuff. Maybe AI will help me figure it out if it knows what to do based on a single short description.

At my work, the CTO is now using codegen to locate and fix bugs. AI. It's literally over.

>>105849566
TypeScript isn't that difficult to grasp the basics of but there is very autistic stuff you can do with it that certain interviewers will fuck even seniors over with.

Hey Saars Im currently working as an IT jack of all trades for a company only casual but they give me as much hours as I want and I pretty much set my own routine. Downside of job is commuting to office and working with people who have been there 20 years and set in their ways. I have just been offered a job with a company offering full time WFH with the pitch that they are getting rid of their MSP and moving to internal IT. The downside/upside is that they have no procedures so would be starting from scratch. Thoughts?

>>105849793
No procedures means you can be the boomer in your company and set up everything the way you want it to.

>>105849246
I only drop 'gm' for niceties. And then in the same message I get to the point.
>mfw I was told to be more polite in teams before I used gm

>>105849885
>forced to adopt someone else's culture in your own country
grim

>>105848895
Every single one.
Every person on the planet grifts, anon.
There is always an inherit conflict of interest between the individual and the society as a whole.

The other day some c-suite retard yelled at service desk for 30 minutes refusing to troubleshoot afterhours and demanding a call Immediately in the morning, which got dumped on my plate, when I reached out to her first thing as requested, she tried to schedule a meeting with me like 11 hours later and then complained formally directly to the CTO when I told her my shift would already be over by that time, her problem btw was she had accidentally deleted a single item from her sent in Outlook, and was sperging out about how it had "mysteriously disappeared"

>>105848958
Because what modern 4chan needs is even more talking about indians.
>get job as contractor
>client requires going through shitty indian company because like most corporations, they live being able to fire people for no reason and contractors make it easier to do that
>stuck with indians
>try to onboard and work
>the stench of curry is abounds with the loudest talking and eating known to man
>contractor company covers up the destruction of historical records because one of their own did it
>client is retarded and keeps the contractor company on despite the huge losses
>client is double retarded and replaced ceo with a jeet
>cue mass firings of citizens right after "record profits" are announced
>people still buy their products because they're stupid

>>105848429 (OP)
Move to Japan.

>>105850243
Why?

>>105848958
Yes.

Like 3.5 years ago I was doing interviews with a large company (DXC).

> First round with direct hiring manager, white competent guy early 40s with cs master degree
> Talk and tech screening / experience / discussion follows
> Eventually point towards the recent pile of negative reviews the company has been getting
> Guy says ''yes they're mostly foreign workers but we in the Netherlands get treated a lot better since we're high income workers''.
> "If you come work for us you will also likely get a team of Indians to support you and the clients, you can shift work to them and are expected to evaluate their work''.
> If you don't like their work, you can make a complaint and we can fire that person rapidly.
> "At DXC we are a globalist, that means that we employ people from low income countries and we don't need to treat them as well'' (literal translated quote)
> This is normal for and expected for any company our size

I was invited for a second interview with a senior solutions architect who held... similar views on the poojeet slave labor. He was also very proud that he bullied the previous manager to the point he quit. At the time they were hesitant to make an offer while I had received one from a big bank that was higher than their range so I went with the bank but if I were to work there I would've probably had countless jeet stories lmao. Know that if you hire DXC consultants that you hire 1 US or European guy to be on site that off loads the project to 10-20 jeets. Enjoy wasting millions on jeetware :D

>>105849563
Except it’s none of those things, it’s some bed bug ridden no-AC Byzantine era ex-slave den that’s still haunted by the screams of peasants from centuries past. The air smells like raw sewage and the water tastes like ass. But at least the government will help you commit suicide when their free healthcare can’t cure you

>>105850243
They don't want me and I don't want to deal with the headache of trying to navigate Japanese bureaucracy without a koseki.

>>105850304
> 1 US or European guy to be on site that off loads the project to 10-20 jeets. Enjoy wasting millions on jeetware :D

As long as the white guy is checking the work of the jeets, that's not too bad

>>105850136
>>people still buy their products because they're stupid
It works until it doesn't. Look at how Sonos was absolutely raped and people kept buying their stuff for years and then one day everything just imploded.

If you're careful you can trade on this but you have to have years of trading normally and being able to understand financial statements and large scale corporate coordination problems + years of working in the industry + the ability to be cold and emotionless with huge amounts of money you worked hard for so most people effectively can't.

I'm honestly tempted to just buy long dated TQQQ puts desu. So much of the industry is completely fucked.

Are there cute girls at your workplace? My office is full of old people and all the women are married, post-wall hags. I work in manufacturing so maybe its different for tech nigas

>>105850379
There were at my last place but they went to college and I dated enough of that kind of girl when I was in college to know that she would add negative value to my life. Plus the huge paycheck is more valuable than sex considering I could fly to Columbia and rent a prostitute for less than a week's pay.

>>105850379
Not at my workplace specifically but the industry as a whole is known for it
https://www.instagram.com/funsizedengineer/

>>105850379
I live in the silicon valley. Back when I was still using dating apps a few years ago, I remember thinking it was weird that even though there are tens of thousands of single 20-something women working at FAANG, I basically never matched with techies. Oddly enough, I mostly matched with artists or musicians. These women were mostly fun to be around and weren't looking for anything serious, which I appreciated. We'd hook up on the first date and then be open to hooking up later or even just hanging out.

The one time that I did match with a techie, she brought up marriage less than a few minutes into our first meetup. She also wanted to know my NW. We did eventually hook up but she didn't want me to touch her, pull her hair, or do anything. She wanted to be on top and just wanted me to sit there. After that, when started texting me constantly and would send manic schizoposts to me whenever I wouldn't reply for a few hours.

"High value" women are oftentimes more of a nightmare to deal with than starving artists with colored hair and septum piercings. I'm in a happy relationship of about 2 years now, but she works in health care, not tech. Most of the 20-something 2omen at my current job are married and have at least one kid. One of them keeps having them and has been AWOL for 14 months over the past two years, which kinda makes me wonder why she keeps getting promoted.

>>105850509
>She wanted to be on top and just wanted me to sit there. After that, when started texting me constantly and would send manic schizoposts to me whenever I wouldn't reply for a few hours.
I swear there are a number of women I've met like this who probably can't reproduce without actually being raped. When I was younger I used to think they just didn't like me but the older I get the more realize most women are actually just insane and get away with it because most men stop thinking when they see them.

>>105850509
>The one time that I did match with a techie, she brought up marriage less than a few minutes into our first meetup. She also wanted to know my NW. We did eventually hook up but she didn't want me to touch her, pull her hair, or do anything. She wanted to be on top and just wanted me to sit there. After that, when started texting me constantly and would send manic schizoposts to me whenever I wouldn't reply for a few hours.

It makes sense, she's got a tech "big girl job" so the money part of her life is taken care of, so she doesn't need to actually please a man. So her brain went completely fucking haywire, since her biological prerogative was no longer needed.

It do be like that frfr

>>105850540
In general women are socialized to be more open about their emotions. You're right that in the worst case, the outcome is an emotional mess. The inverse is the weird pseudo-stoicism that men are taught. Both of these extremes are retarded.
>>105850550
The thing I appreciated about the non-tech women I've dated is that they don't feel entitled to my time or attention. In my experience and from what I've heard from friends, women in tech can hear their biological clock ticking at all times and think everybody is on the same page and looking to get married and have kids and buy a house within the next few months. If I ended up single again, the last place I'd look for dates is techies because holy shit.

>>105849671
My new employer is small and the closest thing we have to a non-white person is a slav and he's a great guy

>>105850702
>women in tech can hear their biological clock ticking at all times and think everybody is on the same page and looking to get married and have kids and buy a house within the next few months. If I ended up single again, the last place I'd look for dates is techies because holy shit.

I was actually like this in my teens and early 20s because I came from a Christian background so most of the people I knew (my age and the last generation) would get married super young.

Of course my female peers didn't want to date a guy in his 20s in college or starting out in their career, it drove me nuts and I over corrected and slept with dozens of Tinder girls. Now I'm in my 30s and they'll seriously talk to me but I hate the idea of marrying a stranger this late in life so I don't really pay attention anymore.

The whole dating thing is completely fucked.

>>105848833
He actually had a negative track record with the WorldCoin nonsense.

just be Jewish lmao

>>105849563
none of it is necessarily bad yeah. not everyone needs a big house or luxury bullshit. but you should be able to choose to some degree and have options for getting ahead and earning more than others. there seems to be very little avenues for doing that in europe, and a lot of them just involve being in government and money changing. americans are getting fucked hard too but its like twice as bad in a lot of europe.

ive had european friends online who chose to never work a day in their lives, and had everything paid for by welfare, including top of the line computer hardware. at a certain point, it doesnt seem like theres enough material gain from working in nordic countries. so many americans fetishisize european economic and social policies but have no clue how expensive all the shit is. denmark and sweden have like literally 55% tax rates and the cost of living is just as expensive in a lot of places in US

its scary how popular the views are getting with "we should just do what [nordic country] does" not knowing anything about those countries. theyre not idle sentiments either people are actually voting. like people voted full on drug decriminalization in portland and were surprised to find out nobody's quality of life improves when you have unstable violent tweakers, bartards, and lying opiate addicts running around unabated. i bet a large chunk of those voters were influenced by hearing half-information about portugal decriminalization in the early 2000s

its all futile anyway i dont know why i care at all

>>105850802
Hey now not everyone knows pytorch. Certainly not in 2018.

>>105850812
I think about this a lot, because most of my savings are ultimately for retirement, which in America has to famously be self funded and maybe you get an employer match assuming you stay long enough for any of that to vest.
I wouldn't have to stress over retirement though if it was more universally taken care of. Or at least I could invest purely for consumption in retirement. I dunno, my American salary sometimes feels like it's not doing that much for me. I'm probably fucked if I get cancer.

>>105851077
Every American is a staunch capitalist until they get a 300k hospital bill.

>>105851113
Fuck the hospital. I'm paying half a grand a month for health insurance because my employer had ONE option which I guess is optimized for boomers.

WHY THE HELL DID THEY ELECT A FUCKING NIGGER IN 2008? WHY DID ANYONE THINK THAT WAS GOING TO WORK OUT NICELY???

>>105851193
>my private insurance sucks, surely this is obama's fault in 2025!!

>>105851077
the universal solution like social security, a program with such financial troubles its expected to fail with no policy changes in 2035? europeans have the same systems with the same funding troubles dude

>>105851113
this is like a reddit teenager take. nobody pays a raw 300k bill. the issue is deductibles, premiums, and out of pocket maximums can be pretty high. even if you paid the out of pocket maximum every year american salaries are still quite a bit higher in a lot of careers

>>105851113
every euro is a staunch public health care supporter until they get cancer and are offered to start their """free""" chemo in 3 years because there is 100000 negresses, each with 10 sick niglets in line before them

Should I be job hopping or staying where I'm at considering we've had minimal layoffs compared to the rest of the industry

>>105851323
saw a news article last month about this happening

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/boxer-dies-25-battling-months-151243319.html

something like this can happen in the US tbf healthcare is systemically fucked up everywhere

>>105848429 (OP)
Move to Argentina.

>>105851218
Between the individual mandate and the way public health insurance works yes he fucked the market equilibrium.

Retarded communists like you should be shot for treason.

>>105851242
I don't understand the point of vapidly stating
>this is like a reddit teenager take
when you immediately follow up by saying the end-cost is still high. My base pay after taxes is over 200k a year, and that's not including my HSA, RSUs, and passive income vehicles. My employer pays for my insurance. If I get cancer, I'm fine. That doesn't change the fact that the median American is making about 1/4th of what I make, and they are either uninsured or have crap insurance that won't save them from being in debt for the rest of their life if they end up getting cancer.
>>105851323
Meds.
>>105851352
Nothing in this article suggests there are 100,000 black women with 10 sick children preventing this woman from getting chemo. She was never diagnosed. It sounds like malpractice, not an issue of resources.

Today for lunch at the Microsoft cafeteria I had a bleu cheese burger with fries and it was pretty good! They put a bit too much lettuce on, but oh well. I like to eat lunch by a window and watch the cute pajeetas walk by outside. Some of them are a bit chubby, but they're still cute. Some of them however are NOT cute at all...

>>105851420
yes, because they would absolutely write that in 2025 AD, you autistic fuck

>>105851463
Which team do you work on?

>>105851507
>claims X
>cites article that doesn't support X
>insists X is true anyways
Grim state on this board.

>>105851463
>I like to eat lunch by a window and watch the cute pajeetas walk by outside.
Ok so you ARE a jeet.

>>105850379
>female devs are very ugly
>other girls like product owners are average at best
all the cute girls are obviously in sales
also to be fair there are a couple of girls in our tech area that are cute but they're either married or engaged

>>105851463
Please poo in loo sir

>>105851551
>be a woman
>attractive
>above average IQ
>high paying job
I don't think I've met a single person who fits this description except when I was an intern. Shoulda snagged one.

>>105851576
ywnbaw

Anyone else ashamed to work in tech? I can feel the cringe whenever someone asks. It's never a positive response just a "oh..." I didn't realize how big of a faggot you sound like being an adult male who works on a computer all day

>>105851512
I'm not answering that
>>105851550
I'm not. The actual jeets only look at the white and asian women
>>105851570
I don't poo at work. They have good cleaning crews at our offices... but they can't keep up. The restrooms all smell rancid.

>>105851619
I know what you mean. now my social life is basically dead, but when I was still meeting people I used to lie I work in marketing. just to avoid that awkward moment.

>>105851619
i knew that from the start that's why i speedran retirement and say i worked for the DoD instead of tech. half my coworkers got divorced during meme flu wfh which cemented how low status and delusional the males in this field are.

How can I deal with one asshole coworker?
One who specifically makes digs and is actively acting like a dick towards me, even if unprovoked, anytime she gets the chance
I'm mostly ignoring the bitch but I often have to work directly with her

>>105851847
Just laugh at them and say you right

>>105851619
Yeah, I don't even bother interacting with other people anymore. After a few minutes, it's obvious they find me boring and pathetic because of what I do. I don't even have any interesting hobbies either, just normal stuff like hiking and exercising. Not even my family or parents care about my life anymore. If I try to share something interesting, they just ignore it and want to talk about my siblings' lives (one works in healthcare, one is basically in landscaping, I make more than both of them combined).
I'd hang out with other tech people... but I fucking hate being around other tech people.

>retarded manager wants me to teach other dev teams on things that managers should known and their managers should impose as policies
just go fuck yourself

>>105851408
obamacare isn't the reason our healthcare sucks shit lol , kill yourself dumbass

how the FUCK am i always so tired
i was driving home from the office and the outline of everything i looked at was shimmering

At this point I'm demoralized and convinced I will never get a satisfying job. However, I still like tech and will continue to learn

I'm approaching 30 and haven't been in a relationship in a decade. I'm a male roastie and it's over
inb4 men age like wine cope

>>105852140
after 20 years in this business I can't even imagine what a satisfying tech job could be like. it's all just bleak, endless grind.

>28 and don't even have a highschool degree
is it over for me?

>>105852209
Go to night classes and get your GED

>>105851420
because its exactly the style of a quippy reddit comment that would get updoots while not even communicating correct or realistic information. answer honestly, do you browse reddit regularly?

>when you immediately follow up by saying the end-cost is still high.

they can be pretty high and it depends on a lot of things. key word being "can". there is still a very high cost for "free healthcare" too, its just not at point of contact. google the median salary for your job title and yoe for any european country. check out real estate prices, rent, taxes too. you make an amount of money is extremely rare in europe, and col is not that much dif. would you really be satisfied if you made 1/4rd of what you do now?

>debt for the rest of their life if they end up getting cancer.

you are exaggerating again. medical debt can be cleared via bankruptcy and doesnt effect credit score.

none of this is to say that our system is the best or the way we should do things. there are tradeoffs in policy decisions. economies arent magic. when the economy is so warped people on welfare enjoy almost an identical quality of life to someone making median salary, i think that way of life is broken.

>Nothing in this article suggests there are 100,000 black women with 10 sick children preventing this woman from getting chemo. She was never diagnosed. It sounds like malpractice, not an issue of resources.

lol. is this an honest dialogue or are you trolling? they didnt do the scans and blood tests she begged for months for because theres funding and resource issues. the NHS has absolutely massive issues and it shows up in the news occasionally even. doctors working for the NHS make literally 50k usd on average.

>Not one doctor did the scans or blood tests I begged for whilst crying on the floor in agony. Instead, they dismissed me. They refused to scan me. They refused to investigate.
i wonder why they didnt do it? its free for pete's sake!

>>105852209
I can't even remember the last time anyone asked me about my education during recruitment. it's all about experience and raw skill.

>>105848958
>Work for startup for 5 years
>went from 10 people to over 50 employees
>CEO is trying to make company leaner so it appears more attractive to investors
>Starts laying off US employees and jeetifying the workforce
>After a year of jeetification, only about 20 american employees left and over 100 jeets
>Poor work quality and too many jeets interacting with clients
>Clients start dropping like flies while company is in process of being sold to fagman company
>fagman company does investigation
>After they see how operations are falling apart they get cold feet
>investors in company no longer confident after seeing how many clients left and failed acquisition
>I jump ship and get hired at a small local company
>a year later I look up my old company, its defunct
Many such cases.

What happens if I fail to deliver a project? Will I instantly get fired?

>>105851591
I used to understand what people were replying to when they said this but at this point, I have no clue.

>>105852229
>calls someone reddit
>posts a several paragraph long rant delimited with redditspacing

I have an associate's in networking and 5YoE. Is there something I can learn to be able to get hired again or do I just kill myself?

>>105852531
I fail to deliver half of the projects assigned to me

>>105851619
I never leave my house or interact with other people so it doesn't matter

>>105852571
>I have an associate's in networking
Worthless
>5YoE
If you actually have this and it's reputable experience in the right field, then that's pretty valuable.
>Is there something I can learn to be able to get hired again
Yeah, the skills that the specific job you're applying for wants.
>do I just kill myself?
Absolutely

>>105851619
Really? When I tell people I work in tech they're either disinterested or don't really understand what I do day-to-day, so they ask. It's not like I'm a rockstar, but given that most people either sit at a desk or work out in the sun for a living, there's no reason for you to be self-conscious about what you do, dude.

>>105852576
Why? And you're still in good standing?

>>105852634
Not him but if someone's missing their deadlines constantly, they're the first to get laid off when their company needs to tighten the belt. It's okay to miss one once in a while, if you never hit the deadline, either management is being too aggressive with scheduling your tasks, or you have an efficiency problem and need to sort it out.

>>105852333
>CEO is trying to make company leaner so it appears more attractive to investors
>fires 30 americans and hires 100 indians
Was his definition of "lean" based entirely on average weight*population?

>>105851619
You shouldn't feel any shame. If other people think negatively of tech work, it's because their own job is bullshit.

>>105851619
No?
Jeez you guys are soft and need to get some perspective working truly terrible jobs. Tech is a 6-7 figure white collar career.

>>105853024
>If other people think negatively of tech work, it's because their own job is bullshit.
Couldn't agree more.

>tasked with placing a DB connection in code
>mfw the given DB visualization tool given by the company hard defaults to IDEF1X
What an absolutely dogshit notation holy shit, crow's foot is so much fucking better

>>105849867
Any tips for templates or something for writing procedures. Im one of the classic IT guys who creates a 10 step official procedure but the real procedure is ten times larger, has multiple ifs and is all in my head

>>105848958
I've worked with two. The first one grew up in the US and was soft spoken and polite. He's okay, not particularly good or bad. Second one was working remotely from India. He wrote bloated spaghetti code that's more complicated than it needs to be, wasn't very responsive, and had a hard time following advice.

>>105852566
Reddit spacing isn't double spacing paragraphs, it's doing a single linefeed after ever sentence. Professional writers tend to write like that because it helps them see the rythm of what they've written more clearly and Reddit hides it so they don't clean it up before posting. In 2015-2019 when the same sockpuppeting that was done on Reddit was tried here people noticed it and called *that* reddit spacing.

Most normal people double space paragraphs because it's easier to read.

>>105848958
2 jeet managers have been exclusively hiring jeets for a year and I can't get a new job in this market
The last one they hired is the worst
>they claim he has a masters with 8 years of experience
>he literally hunt and peck types
>holds his laptop like an actual monkey
>keeps saying he completes jira tickets when he clearly doesn't
>ask him why there's no commits in the code base for the ticket
>"I didn't need to commit anything for that"
>everyone just pretends this is okay

>>105853871
we love our fraudulent h1b hires dont we folks? our beautiful... beautiful h1b hires. some say they barely do any work at all, some say that. i say they steal just the right amount of jobs from whites and its a beautiful thing this h1b fraud we have on... such a massive scale.

everyone in SV drives like they're in Hyderabad and it's fucking baffling
>running the stop sign and giving me the rape glare
>stopping past the clearly marked pedestrian crossing
>blocking the intersection
>blocking an entire lane stopping to switch over to the next lane
where are the traffic cops? hello?

Guys I need some serious help/advice. This is the situation:
I'm a trainee about to transfer to a new team. I received an invite from someone higher up to join the new team's daily standups and I accepted.
So I join one of these meetings (over MS Teams), I didn't announce myself or anything since that would have been awkward/weird and it's not like they really care who I am, plus I didn't want to interrupt. Now I did know there was some tension between the two teams (my current team and this other team I'll be joining) but I guess I didn't realise the extent of it. Because part way through some of them really started complaining and whining about my current team, which also extends to me. It wasn't until the end of the meeting that I guess they realised I was there and asked me "Oh you're with us now?". Btw it was already announced at a larger sectional meeting that I'd be joining the team, but I guess they didn't care.
So now that I've gotten myself into this awkward situation, how do I get myself out of it? I'm guessing they all probably hate me now, right?

>>105850401
wew she's fun sized alright

>coworker's visa expires
>suddenly get assigned to a fuckton of bugs in his code since he's not there to fix it anymore
>all the UI elements are named based on a position in a grid, so there will be button4_8, button7_2, etc.
>like 75% of it is commented out code or code that does nothing but he forgot to comment out
>for loops that iterate over an array but have several statements like if(i==5) to handle some special case for the 5th element
>special unicode characters in string literals to mock visual elements like gridlines
>this was just the first file I looked through
what the fuck

>>105854087
take their criticisms, apologize, and say you will do your best to fix them.

>>105854268
>>for loops that iterate over an array but have several statements like if(i==5) to handle some special case for the 5th element
I actually don't see the problem with this one

Is being in an agile team based or cringe? The people in the desks next to me are in one and it seems annoying having to pretend you made progress to have an update on every day (though I assume you could just do 5 things on monday/tuesday and spread them out over the week) but it does seem based how even the low level guys get to slack off in meetings for 2-3 hours a day and how you have a set amount of work per 'sprint' meaning I'd assume you get it done in the first week and slack off the rest of the time

>>105854087
Just pretend it never happened. Nobody cares.

>>105854274
Except they weren't criticisms, they just don't like the extra overhead of having to deal with my (current) team.
>>105854372
I think this is achievable for the most part. It's just one of them in particular who was whining and lying about a situation (partly involving me). That guy I cannot respect and will have a hard time working with, I pray to God that I will not have to work closely with him.

>>105854399
Sometimes these things work themselves out. They fired the last asshole that tried to gyp me. Most dudes in your new standup probably hate that whiny motherfucker as well.

HR called my emergency contact without trying to contact me first (there are SEVEN ways to contact me) for no goddamn reason and talked about a health related issue with that contact. What the flying fuck, I thought the HR memes were hyperbole.

>>105854418
lmao probably, I think he's a liability for sure. It was also kind of funny because part of the meeting was for them to explain what they'd been doing and he just whined about having to deal with me/my team. When I checked the messages the whole convo lasted a total of 15mins, mostly because he couldn't follow basic instructions. So it made me wonder what he'd been doing the rest of the day, for that to be the most predominant part of his work.

>>105854487
Most HR people are retards. Always provide them the minimal most vague info possible and if you're ever forced to talk to one, immediately make it apparent that they don't know what they're talking about and request to speak to someone higher-up or from the relevant area.

>>105854520
I tried to discuss how unhappy I am about my emergency contact being called but the HR person in question just changed subject without providing an explanation. Should I go around this person to make it known I'm upset about this? Or cuck out and do nothing.

>>105854589
go around, you're entitled to an explanation, just say you're just trying to understand or some bs. Do you know the individual responsible? This is a serious privacy violation and under most jurisdictions a person's medical info would be considered sensitive personal information. These retards get away with way too much and are way too arrogant about it.

>>105854589
you can bring up the issue in an email to that HR person's manager, and depending on size of the company you can go even higher up

>be me .net sql iis monkey
>all remote jobs want aws skills and certs
Is it hard and should I just go for onsite companies instead

>>105854618
>>105854628
I'll try. I hate conflict but I feel like I don't really have a choice. Fuck

My performance review went great! As in, it didn't happen at all because of administrative issues involving the local HR Cancerware precluding accessing the necessary documents. But I was told I'm doing generally "a great job" before I left for the day!

>>105854268
too obvious to not be a troll post yet so stupid a conspiracy I could believe some cabal of HR rats and "c-suite" retards at a smaller company would actually attempt it.

goodnight /twg/

>>105854959
gn and get off teh sad joose eh?

>internship requirements be like

How does one become a cloud engineer? Are there free certs or online training I can do?

>does capitalism work without work
it doesnt work either way because the premise of competition is false. All tge shit on the supermarket is owned by the same company. Everyone gravitates towards the same brands, etc...

>>105855290
this reeks of troll post but it actually happened in Canada and is why food prices are so high despite producing fucktons of food and having pretty protectionist policies. All the major grocers are owned by a literal monopoly, and to buy food means either re-selling what Superstore sells in bulk, or importing stuff on your own with tariffs that would make Donald Trump weep with joy.

>>105854589
Lawyer up.

>>105855076
Why doesn't they just use Audio ?

>>105852209
Why would it be over GED is easy shit. I was half way through 10th grade and dropped out. Then i learned that college was even easier to finish than middle school. Wish i could've just started college in high school like kids are doing now but alas online college was barely even a thing at the time. BTW you really only need a high GPA in college for Masters degrees, PhD's and if you want to go be an officer/pilot in the US military. Its not over you can study most of the GED on Khan Academy in about 2 months 2-4x hours a day depending upon your mental retardation.

>>105855076
How does a single person even amass enough knowledge and experience to do something like this? You'd have to be a double-PHD just to apply

>there are people in this job market who do not even have high school degrees, have no relevant experience, and are not even nepo hires or even social butterfly frat boys
>they are getting 100+k/yr jobs easily while I Languish and Lament

>>105855469
Learn to glow

>>105854287
you have no authority or expertise and you don't know what the fuck you are doing so shut the fuck up because anon is describing shit code. if you shit code like if(i==5) then you suck, I'm sorry, you just suck. Get better at coding or again just shut the fuck up and lurk.

>>105855469
They aren't furfaggots who lost their Shift key.

>>105853871
don't ask him shit, don't tell him shit, just ignore him and let him fail.

>>105855488
all I do rn is sometimes listen in on the radios for the local transit authority (bus and ferry)
what next then

>>105855550
Do that same thing but for government contracts.

engaging in active high-tech international terrorism to get the necessary non-intern experience required to be trusted to put the fries in the bag

>>105855610
Happened to me
>Must know old telecommunication tech that is no longer in use anywhere within the company
>IDSN, CSU/DSU/POTS/Gateways/Bridges ect ect ect
All learned to only end up working on cisco call manager, cisco IOS CLI commands, power shell commands and mostly fiber optic termination. Thanks company i am still ground zero for not knowing shit and the shit i learned is beyond outdated at this point.

>>105855636
same, i only got hired after i got mad and shot the recruiter with an experimental light-gas-railgun hybrid rifle i built in my garage

>>105855650
>>105855636
>>105855610
>be le me
>fed up with this world
>start taking potshots at traffic from my house with my AR-15 (3d printed)
>someone calls the police
>start taking potshots at the police
>someone calls in their Bearcat Armored Vehicle
>jokes on them im using green tip
>enter a 75 hour standoff with local police
>eventually the national guard gets called in
>BOOM BOOM CRASH
>It's Major General Shawn R. Satterfield, Director of Joint SOF Force Development and Design (J-7) (Provisional), U.S. Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) and Deputy Commander for Mobilization and Reserve Affairs, U.S. Special Operations Command
>he's unarmed
>he just extends his hand out to me
>"Put er' there, pal. You're hired."
It's literally that easy.

i just bring a chemical laser to every interview i go to

>He doesn't bring is 20ft tall fusion powered mecha suit made from alien made alloys to a job interview at the local home depot.
NGMI

>>105855838
>he needs mecha and ayylium alloys
Nah
I'd win

>>105855636
>IDSN
I didn't realize how weird this was until I was older. We had ISDN at home in 2010 because we were so rural we couldn't get anything else other than geosynchronous satellite (which is awful, you kids have no idea how nice Starlink is.)

I remember trying to play Animal Crossing with friends when I was 12 and having to run over to the router, open up minicom, and redial the modem before we got disconnected and all had to watch resetti.

i dont evne know what isdn is. as a kid we went straight from a 56k modem to an ADSL line

>>105848429 (OP)
Has anyone put a serious thought into the implication? Or is this just a meme question that has a meme communism answer?

All I do is pretend to work and then eat ice cream while listening to trance music and watching DIY videos.

I have fully embraced that I am the last man.

>>105856126
capitalism without work is just feudalism

>>105856177
no feudalism is people working the land and keeping sone of their crops. This would be regular marxist leninist communism.

>>105856126
>Has anyone put a serious thought into the implication?
>OMG GUYS WHAT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WORK? I'M SO CLEVER THINKING ABOUT THIS, NO ONE HAS EVER IMAGINED WHAT THAT COULD BE LIKE
Literally kys. The ancient Greeks were even saying they could have slaves do all the work who are far more capable than SOTA language models and robotics. They still had a very active labor market for free men because human socialization doesn't work that way.

Yes we've thought quite a lot about it. No it doesn't work the way you think. You're not clever.

>>105851619
this, we all know the only appealing facet of our bullshit job is the paycheck and that is diminishing fast. I just say I work in an office and divert the conversation.
>I answer bs slacks in my pyjamas so MBAs can feel important they are lording over people with PhDs
gives even men the ick

>>105856188
Feudalism is kind of the opposite of communism. The point of communism is democracy. If you want to make it closer the peasants would need to own shares in the Lord's estate and people to vote during yearly/quarterly meetings (yes global corporations are actually pretty close to what Marx imagined communism would be like.)

>>105851619
One of the girls I liked literally sent me a tranny flag emoji over text when I got my current job haha. (I'm not remotely transgender or gay.)

>>105852176
it is true though, 30 is the watershed moment for men, keep going bro wagmi
>t. 40y boomer

>>105856236
i was very specific in my wording when i said marxist leninism
>why cant it be democracy?
because the working class sucks and has always sucked. Plus by the time anyone revolts if things go south theyll have like energy orbs that can turn ppl into swiss cheese with skynet and shit.

>>105853146
write in prose, prompt LLM
>this is what should happen, format it as a procedure, make it sound like professional and verbose

>>105856260
It's not really communism (yes including Leninist communism, he just wanted things centralized) if there's no democracy, that's just socialism.

>>105856274
i know my definitions you know. Democracy is not communism either because that implies a state.

>>105856282
No state would mean anarchy not communism. You can't have a social norm (even a communist social norm) without a meta norm.

>>105854353
who tf is not working in agile? Agile here means whatever improvised fuck you want to do, but you have to interview for your job daily during the morning humiliation

>>105856236
Every communism project has lead to totalitarianism where the state controls all aspects of society and mandates right think and wrong think. Everyone is treated like a drone without any independent thought.

There are no voluntary communism because humans arent drones. Everyone has different experience, thoughts, ideals, goals, drives that differ from one another.

>>105856298
you can be stateless but youd have to max out on abundance or so the thinking goes. If everyone is fat and has max everything the only ones thatd try to cause trouble would be because tgeyre assholes and theres a lot fewer of those.

>>105854353
Agile is incredibly overrated. It seems like it would result in good communication but effectively it's a tool for middle managers to hijack control from engineers.

>>105856303
Sure but that's not really what we're talking about.
>>105856309
You should spend more time around people. They don't work the way you think they do.

>While studying uni
>Was able to get jobs easily that one way or another fell through because of contracts or company reorganization
>Finally get my degree
>Jobs harder to find
And the retarded thing is that I went from doing pretty decent backend work while getting rejected from codemonkey jobs. I'm starting to suspect the think I am a job hopper when this shit is out of my control, but it's also funny how suddenly once I got my degree that's when the phone stopped ringing.

>>105856344
Remove it from your resume easy.

>>105856316
>not real communism

>>105856350
I might unironically try that and see what happens.
If I get any result out of it, that'd just make me more confused.

>>105856364
if robots and ai do all the jobs then obviously thatd be different. Just like if asteroids were mined and shit thatd be more different.

>>105856368
It sucks but people do it with there multiple degrees, masters and even doctorates. Then they reapply it later if they want an internal position that requires it. No clue how that latter portion helps out.

>>105856388
Why is that? The expectation of degree = more money? I'd be happy to apply for industry rates like I've always done.

>>105856399
Yep almost always the case that they expect you to ask for more money. Its a given. Even more so if you gain a degree while working, they will not pay you more until you move to another position or to another company.

>>105856310
>tfw you remember Open Allocation was a thing and you could debate its benefits without micromanagers getting their pitchforks
how the turntables

>>105856344
Let me guess, you live in a country with strong labor laws? Germany?
Nobody wants to hire full time. Too risky.

>once again picked last during the daily
this is how microaggression feels?

>>105854268
sounds like something i would write lol sorry bro im just tryna put bread on the table

>>105850540
Im not MGOTW or anything but in general it makes life easier to assume any woman you meet is batshit insane and then you can never be caught off guard

>>105854268
>what the fuck
It's called safeguarding job security retard.
I'm not going to make it easier for you to replace me.

>>105850509
You're just describing Asians... which are the majority of females in tech.
The very few white females in tech would never touch a fellow techie unless he becomes VP or CTO.

>>105848549
cute furina

>>105850626
>20 years later
>almost retirement age Gen Z complaining that they don't have anything saved(for some reason teehee), demand the government do something(tax everyone else to death more)

>>105857237
That's Gen X right now. The boomers are blowing their brains out.

>>105857270
retarded people larping oh I'll kill myself before 40 or I'll be dead by then to justify saving nothing is as old as time

>>105857295
Yep their pussies either way you dice it. If at the least they had there house paid off, and other debts cleared then you could say "get a part time job and vacation when needed" you could still save for the future but retirement where you don't work is out the window even in that situation. The reality is they don't even have that and barely have 500k+ in retirement accounts/investments.

>>105857307
midwits cash out their 401ks at market bottoms because they think the world is ending with a 10% drop lmao
only FIREgods will win

>>105850379
nice another manufacturing anon. but to answer your question, No, the ratio is probably 90% men to 10% women here. and I cover like 4 different manufacturing sites. most women I see and interact with tend to be in management, as opposed to operations or engineering. what do you do at your job?

>>105852176
30s were way better than my 20s. 20s was all depression and a shitload of drinking and self esteem issues. go work on yourself some and don't be a spaz ; you'll do fine.

>>105857391
No i did mention in another thread that you should lock someone down not in youre 20s but your early 20s. Some ppl do. If youre not having fun in your early 20s youre not going to have fun in your late 20s. Also if youre doing the degree set a deadline until 23 or drop out and get any job. Dont be a stubborn sunk cost fallacy fag. Very common with those studying engineering btw.

>>105857431
>fun is age locked
why are you autistic
>settle down with some hole as soon as possible
why are you terminally online

>>105857431
>If youre not having fun in your early 20s youre not going to have fun in your late 20s.

I did though. christ I had a great time in my late 20s as opposed to my early 20s.

>>105848571
>>switch to "open to work" on li
>>didn't even put the dumb banner, only recruiters can see me
>>already 2 recruiter chicks 7am the next day
>>they both asked me if I'm familiar with microservices
They're automated first contact messages
You'll soon grow tired of roasties and deanos asking you the same questions only to sound annoyed that you don't tick all their boxes.

>>105857441
i mean were on 4chan most ppl here are not normal dude yes do lock the "fun part"

>>105857454
most people are normal, but subhumans refuse to stay on their containment boards and no moderation means they keep spreading
20 year old retards speaking about life when they don't even know how to boil some eggs is stupid

Fun?

>>105857468
i am 36 dude also g is a containment board.

>>105857475
From what touching women?

god you people are insufferable, at least IRL I can get you fired from my team when you manage to squeeze past HR

>>105857481
well you know this is the tranny pedo board

>>105848429 (OP)
https://www.businessinsider.com/google-salaries-revealed-software-engineers-paid-2025-7
Shitstains being paid more for having high performance numbers says shitstain

>>105857492
You mean the entire internet retard. All mods all jannies and all furry trannies are the same. Every website retard every stone is unturned. Nothing is sacred its over.

>>105856344
lel something I learned the hard way is that in my cunt any sort of security guard jobs are EXCLUSIVELY staffed by either students or people with disabilities. It's just cheaper due to how labor laws are setup. You're Arnold from Predator looking to work for minimum wage? No jobs for you lmao. This cripped loser here will work for less so he'll make a better guard.

>>105857443
this, I also met my wife@30 when she was 19. At 20 you are competing with men who are far more accomplished for some of the highest value females. Take your chances, but the odds are against u
>captcha: DADY

>>105857555
that's way too much of an age difference. don't be surprised when you get cucked.

>>105857677
Anyone can get cucked. I'm this guy btw >>105856244 , even if I get cucked after 10 years and counting, I still had a good run and 4 kids, my ancestors are smiling at me

Does anyone know of a site with REAL and RELIABLE brain dumps for the Palo Alto NGFW Engineer exam?

Studying now, but really don't want to risk not passing. My promotion next month is on the line.

>>105858399
You are fucked desu. Who the fuck takes Palo Alto/Microsoft/IBM/Google certifications seriously?

>Autosar

Legally and technically speaking, why shouldn't I just get as many simultaneous contracts I can juggle as possible? It seems like the only way to have job security and a nice income these days.

>>105857481
vir/g/in

>>105858508
Workload varies wildly. You could function on 3 jobs if the actual workload per job is only 2-3 hours per day per job. If its any higher then your fucked.

>>105856302
government position, we're like 15 years behind the times on most stuff, like a few months ago my boomer boss was bitching that he wouldn't be able to use the production database for development anymore

>>105855008
can't afford the happy stuff

>>105858508
>legally
In my country it's typical to have a clause that states you can't work for anyone else without approval (which you wont get).

Not sure what happens if you break that clause though.

>>105855492
somebody's a bit angry
for i in range(len(arr)):
if i == 5:
do_something_special(arr[i])
else:
do_something(arr[i])

>>105858750
In my country (inside EU) you can work for other companies unless there's an exclusivity clause. As FTE is a little bit more complicated, but as a contractor nobody stops you from having more than one client at the same time.
Anyway these exclusivity clauses, in order to be legal, must provide an extra bonus that compensates the restriction.
>>105858622
Some jobs had micromanagers trying to extract more than 8 hours per day from me and others were happy with me delivering and working whatever I deemed necessary.

I've been making games in C in my freetime for fun. Can I do anything useful with it in terms of job prospects? Embedded is probably too different from the C skillset I've acquired so far. I'm doing sysadmin stuff and it's decent but I always wondered what it would have been like had I gone into programming instead.

>>105858780
the actual problem is i==5 is the sixth element in sane languages

>>105855752
>>105855838
are they AI, though?

>>105856046
>geosynchronous satellite (which is awful
I do have 1 experience with this. it was shit lmao- a reload of a simple html+js page basically wouldn't load because the sat took seconds to receive and retransmit the request and response kek

>>105848736
I lasted 6 years. I blame AGILE. AGILE is burnout speedrun.

>>105858923
Management frameworks or whatever there called now are all bullshit. Waterfall with a little bit of testing mixed in per feature change is far better for most teams anyways.

>>105858780
20+ years and no one has optimized the syntax of range(len(arr))

>>105849266
Hey I used to work at Accenture. It wasn't too bad actually. Still I'm better off where I am now.

>>105849246
You are the one who needs to be taught:

- in modern remote work, you live in a world of unknown colleagues from all over the place, weak relationships and weak social skills. Why not go out of your way and make people feel welcome?

- being unresponsive can ruin your reputation: People may thing you're afk, or claim you're not helpful when they need to defend their own failure towards their boss.

- incompetence reigns supreme, and no one can tell or appreciate the value of your work or skills anymore. All they can do is judge you by your communication.

- there is no real leadership anymore, it's all agile and egalitarian and the boss has no assistant any more and is therefore swamped with menial tasks. But you can 'lead' by embracing opportunities to talk to people, form alliances with competent people on how to do the work right, and direct weaker colleagues to do it your way.

- you can ask what the coworker wants and then set an appointment, and ask him to be prepared, e.g. having tried 2-3 things to fix the situation, or prepare an environment before you start working, or to read a document. (But then of course deliver top notch help). That's how you train up new people or fend of low effort requests.

>>105848958
>jeet speaks
>I can't understand it at all
Hope you liked my story.

>>105859064
>Why not go out of your way and make people feel welcome
because I hate every single one of you subhumans

>>105858999
for i, val in enumerate(arr)

>>105848958

>stories

It's my entire day. They are 80% of the engineering department and essentially run it so I get a first row seat to Idiocracy in action. Nothing whatsoever is efficient, everything breaks constantly, code quality is done as as concept as is tech debt, they want me to fix issues in prod/staging but refuse to give me db access to it. It's asinine. I'm coasting and collecting my check.

>Get new job
>Manager has a monotone voice that makes me extremely sleepy
>He also loves to schedule very long meetings
Seriously, the job looks interesting but having this manager is making me reconsider my choices. It also pays really well. Any tips?

>>105859275
Start doodling on a notepad. Easy solution. You will not find another job elsewhere quickly so you gotta suck it up. More importantly there are far shitter bosses.

>>105859275

>boss is just boring

That's nothing. Just work or do something else during meetings.

>>105851847
You have probably displayed weakness, and women don't respond well to that. She is probably not an asshole, and just acting on a primal level. If she feels, for whatever reason, that you're a liability for the tribe and her theoretical offspring is at risk, it's impossible to stomach. With a guy you can bond over sports, and whoever is less capable can find a secure spot lower in the hierarchy, but this is not an option with her. You can never get back to neutral, not by being friendly or subservient, and she can't accept you to be dominant either.

It may be unrecoverable and reason to find a new job.

But you can try to be 100% clean, no jokes, only the most polite small talk, if any. Do not engage in any off-topic conversation. Upgrade your wardrobe, white shirt and proper pants; also look exceptional on camera. Represent your group well to the outside, i.e. customers or other teams. Execute your work 'by the book' in a way that doesn't give any room for criticism.

Good luck, anon.

>>105859311
imagine writing all this incel drivel

>>105859102

I won't advise to hate, it's not healthy, but of course a colleague who makes things awkward for you or doesn't respect your work, time, effort etc. is at fault. Use the points I outlined to protect yourself

>>105858780
Yeah, I've used stuff like that frequently to check if something isn't the first item on a list to prepend the new line with a comma for outputting JSON payloads.


>>105858853
Not really an issue when you get used to it.
Although it can be a PITA when you've been working with a 1-Indexed language and switch back and forth to a 0-Indexed language, or vice versa.

>>105859119
for i, j in pairs(t) do ... end

>>105851463
how fat are you?

>finish a bunch of lame mandatory training
>get mail from corporate
>"please do these additional compliance training courses"
Why do corpos pay people to waste time?

>>105859433

I think these are mandated by law. Thank our retarded government.

>>105859331

Certainly not an incel, but do give some better advice then. I don't see how he can recover once he has lost respect.

>>105859433
Agree with the other anon your company is trying to avoid getting sued. Not even training your employees to "A Standard" whatever it may be would make it really hard for the company to fire them without having to worry about getting sued for wrongful termination. States vary on this law but larger corporations follow the worst states mandates like Cali is so so shit most manufacturers either sell there or they make everything compliant for them to sell there.

>>105859433
Not USA but here some of the training is also an insurance requirement.

>>105859433
If it makes you feel any better i train the new guys for a month straight so i can blame the boss for accepting my training program and having him be the one on call since i did my job.

Weird way to have an on call system but atleast i am covering my ass.

i swear to god pulling all developers into a minor meeting for some shit that doesn't concern most of them should be a fireable offense

Every time im in a meeting and someone mentions "snmp traps" i think of traps as in, the fairly gay kind of trap

>>105860040
that's kinda gay

>>105848603
You sound like a dweeb

>>105858780
yeah that is trash code. It shows a lack of design and forethought. a collection ought to be of like items that require the same operation performed on them. know your shit or don't say shit.

>>105858780
this is the kind of code that brings in 10MM ARR

I like drinking decaf. It's full of highly toxic solvents that make the coffee taste yummy.

what would you do in this situation?

>>105860669
I've never been in that situation because I'm not some bottom 20% midwit who thinks imposter syndrome is real

>>105860669
that post is most certainly fake lol, no white collar guy would ever dare talking that way lest the wrath of hr gets involved

>>105860669
I would simply not ever be put in that situation in the first place.
But if I, hypothetically, were the type of person to be in that situation then I would kill myself.

>>105860718
peep at the subreddit name

>manager and boss want to implement yet another requirement that wasn't specified
>complain about my estimate
>tell them that maybe they should have thought about this during the initial phase for a change
>coworker laughs on cam

>>105860630
try this anon:
sprinkle a little extra coffee grinds on top of already used coffee grinds.
brew.
enjoy.

>>105860730
haha youre right, that does explain everything including the abysmal written english

>>105860669
If you have been stuck on something for a whole day and didn't ask for help I'm going to assume you aren't very bright.

>>105848958
>first job out of college, small company
>half the company is indians including CEO
>they live and work in america and have families here
>actually do good work
>takes me a month to understand them
>get acquired
>offshored indians get hired to work on old product
>have to dedicate time to help them learn the product and fix bugs
>they ping you about a bug and give no info about what they tried already
>give them a tip without the full answer
>2 weeks later they ping you about the same bug and that the 1 thing you hinted about didnt work
>this continues on for 6 months

i dont mind indians as long as they get paid the same as me and have a vested interest in competency

>>105860730
do indians really do stuff like that to coworkers? couldnt imagine working in an environment where people openly berate others and are serious about it. ive read stories that indian managers actually get in peoples faces and scream at them. maybe thats why they only hire each other cos without the caste system and slave culture/programming they run a nonzero chance of getting german suplexed into a curry coma

then again maybe he just sucks so bad that he deserves to be opnely berated

>>105859908
why do you care? Just coast. 30-60m daily humiliation for 10people is like having 1 less team member, costs 50-300k/y lmao. Meanwhile you must jump through hoops to expense that $50 whatever

I cant wait to be promoted to /utwg/.

>>105860692
>10MM ARR
>>105860718
>>105860724
>>105860751
all failed, you continue doing nothing and report that you are busy writing test for the migration or some shit lol

>SWE listing, 1000+ applicants in 24hrs
>SWE listing, requires US citizenship, 50 applicants in 24hrs

Every time

>>105861496
nigga it's 1000 bots
companies have to pay for every applicant over 100 so they let it get spammed on purpose

>>105861496
>>SWE listing, requires US citizenship, 50 applicants in 24hrs
Bullshit, i even see 'founding engineer' and staff/senior roles blow past 100+ citizenship or not
ive been applying for 2 weeks and im currently employed with 5 yoe doing java and microservice cloud bullshit the most marketable things ever and only getting callbacks from amazon
and im applying for onsite/hybrid roles mostly

>>105861496
>immigrants will continue to flood the market before people already here even have a chance
epic, surely this is sustainable

>Submit working solution/code
>technically it's great and was fun to write but doesn't seem to solve anything too important for the business
>feel bad
>realise it's Friday
It's even worse like this, there's so much I have and want to do before the week will end.

It's even worse with all the fomo like online sales, Sundays, mmo events - when working you do things when you have time, and no amount of timers on gog or notification msgs will make sit and purchase something when I have overtime work.

>>105861588
immigrants are not being hired right now at all lmfao, you people are delusional, its basically impossible to get a US SWE job right now if youre not a citizen
what IS happening is offshoring, but that has nothing to do with linkedin applications

>>105853474
Most of the newlines in this post >>105852229 are not being used to separate paragraphs. Go back.

>>105848603
gayest shit I've ever read and I've read hardcore gay erotica

>>105861598
>>realise it's Friday
...no it isnt?

>>105857206
not him but have you ever dated an asian woman?
>no body odor
>eternally skinny
>her mom looks 30 even though she's 55
>cooks and cleans
>also probably has a six figure job
>eager to have kids and raise a family
I'd much rather end up with someone like this than a white woman who has a mental breakdown every few days, refuses to hold down a job, and gains 50 pounds within the first couple months of being together.

>>105861688
australian maybe?

am i the only one whos glad that the industry is fake and gay? coasting has never been easier.

>>105861700
>I'd much rather end up with someone like this than a white woman who has a mental breakdown every few days, refuses to hold down a job, and gains 50 pounds within the first couple months of being together.
women who are athletic or go to the gym don't have these problems

>>105861703
australians dont have fridays

>>105861710
i've never dated a white woman who did cardio. if anything they'd do yoga and use the leg machines. all the asian women i've dated can at least run a 5k.

>>105861700

I don't think people realize just how culturally broken white women are. Like yes all women are a certain way but only one culture of woman insists on simultaneously larping as a man (in the most annoying way) while also shirking and rejecting all of the essential duties of being a woman.

>>105861718
>i've never dated a white woman who did cardio
i do :)

>>105861706
>industry is fake and gay
Maybe fake, but objectively, it is not gay. I wish it was, tho.

>>105861688
>>105861703
>>105861712
Good night.

>>105848971
Literally this exact same thing happened to me. He constantly passed his work onto other people at the last minute (e.g. 4 PM on a Friday he'd ask me to write up a report of everything everyone else on the team had done for the last sprint), and the team was a total mess because nothing ever actually got done, or was marked as delivered even though half the requested use cases didn't work. Then because I was the new guy after the reorg, I'm pretty sure he thought I was complaining to his manager about him (in reality I didn't care because I was already looking for another job) so he went on the offensive and started giving me all this meaningless feedback like I "wasn't playing an active role in the team," or I "wasn't working proactively," and then when I'd ask him in one-on-one meetings (which he usually cancelled last minute) what the fuck he meant and for specific ways I could do those things better, he couldn't come up with any. I got the fuck out as soon as I had another offer, no idea if he's still there but I hope that turd got fired.

Meanwhile my CEO is gigabased, not a single Indian in the company and he once mocked them in a company-wide meeting by explaining how he once hired a contractor team from India and nothing got done and then he put on a fake jeet accent and started calling people sir lmao

>>105848603
idgi

>>105861971
what he's saying is that he's the IT bitch boy and he enjoys it very much

>>105860669
make sure I'm sleeping and eating well. if so, I'd talk to a doc, because that shit shouldn't happen.

>>105862003
That is so sexy.

>>105859381
Only a little bit, 170 lbs, 6'

fuck, I posted to the wrong general...

I'm being offered an internal transfer. they offer the same pay (I asked for a raise, they said no) + 1 yearly bonus, equivalent to 2 monthly salaries (so a total yearly pay 1/6 higher than my curren salary), based on team performance (ie, it might or might not be paid...)
my current position is relatively comfy except for the political crap my boss has to endure (and therefore the team as a whole). I've been told that the positon I was offered is not this comfy and politics might be the same or worse.
am I being too greedy if I reject the offer and tell them to raise the pay offer?

>>105861725
I just need somebody I can rely on, and in my experience dating three white women long-term
>two were emotional nightmares who seemed normal at first only to break down six months into the relationship, lose their jobs, and refuse to do anything to get better until said I was breaking up with them
>one was emotionally stable and employed but started talking about opening our relationship so she could start dating women. we ended up breaking up because she told me she wasn't sure she was attracted to men anymore
In hindsight, both of the former two women are now fat, unemployed, and constantly monkeyvining between effeminate alt men with painted nails and no job. The latter is actually doing well for herself, but it was a dead end from my perspective. Meanwhile I've been in a relationship with a Chinese PA for going on two years now, and none of this has ever been a problem whatsoever. When her grandma died, she got sad and took a few weeks off of work to grieve, but then she recovered, and now she's back to normal. If something like that had happened to my first two ex's, they'd have used it as an excuse to quit their jobs and/or drop out of college and spend the next year smoking pot in my living room. There's a certain culture urgency to being self-reliant that comes with growing up with Asian parents, and most white women from suburban America just don't got it.

>>105856303
>Everyone is treated like a drone without any independent thought
this is wrong lol

>>105861627
>usingspaces
youneedtogoback.youarenotwelcomehereredditor.fuckignnewfag

>>105862178

>youneedtogoback

i'll have you know,

i post here all the time

>youarenotwelcomehereredditor


lmao ok mr reddit

>>105862178
>>105861627
>>105862196
>2024+1 (THE YEAR OF THE SNEED)
>NEWFAGS TRYING TO FIT IN NOT KNOWING BOARD CULTURE
I WILL GIVE YOU A HINT, ONLY NEWFAGS USE LOWERCASE. IT MAKES ME CRINGE SO HARD WHEN REDDITORS LIKE YOU TRY TO FIT IN HERE

>>105862119
>A bit
>6’0” and 170
Bruh, if you’re “a bit” fat at that size you probably have zero muscle. Start working out.

>>105862281
i'm just a little flabby, that's all. I run a lot so maybe that will help

>>105862294
which office? i'm full remote so i don't even know if we have gyms.

>>105861700
Literally the only downside to Asian women is that they can't have white kids. Otherwise they're perfect.

>>105862331
I'm on the redmond campus. There aren't gyms, but you can get a membership to a local commercial gym paid for. I don't use that though, I just run around outside

>>105861615
The problem is that people who were never going to get the job are spamming applications, which makes it harder for your application to actually get in front of a recruiter

>>105862349
you post something in this thread every day about how you work at MSFT and go into the redmond campus. do you have any other aspects of your personality?

>>105862412
>techbros having and identity at all beyond BROOO I DO COMPUTERS AT FAANG BROOOO

>>105862412
no
also I don't post about it every day

>>105862429
what do you even do at ms?

>>105862446
I write code for one of their awful products

>>105862456
what language and how long until you get replaced by a jeet?

>>105862423
>>BROOO I DO COMPUTERS AT FAANG BROOOO
nta but given that this is /twg/ who cares. most posts here are either made up greentext about epicly pwning your manager/coworkers that someone daydreamed at their generic sweatshop web dev job or people whining about interviews. the fact that you make these types of posts and have a worse job does not make you more interesting than that guy.

>>105862466
C#, like most of Microsoft's backend codebases
And hopefully tomorrow

>stop talking about tech work in the tech workers general
>why don't you talk about indians or my incel fantasies about hr instead

>>105862412
>>105862423
You never get mad at that furfaggot who comes here to recruit for ZOG, why are you freaking out on me?

Trillion dollar idea. Transmitting data through audio. Who's building this with me?

>>105862456
Can you tell the Entra, Purview, Defender and Intune teams to stop FUCKING MOVING THINGS AROUND FOR NO GOOD REASON!??!
Thank you.

>>105862565
I don't work on that shit

>>105862577
can you tell the jeets working there that I bake very good pastries (western style thoughbeit) and they should include them in their tiffins post-haste (i will give them the special caste price(do not tell them that this means I will charge them triple for being jeets and do not care what poo caste they are, i just want their money))

>>105862552
the cia glowniggers already beat us to it and have already mapped your entire apartment and know the exact length and girth of each dildo you hide in the cardboard box inside your closet

>>105862456
referral saar? please referring i am very hard worker

>>105862718
>>105862718
>>105862718

how do u guys handle local docker/k8s dev env on osx, we cant use docker desktop and the only real option that gets pushed internally is rancher but it feels like a piece of shit

>>105862412
>crying because someone who works in tech talks about the place he works at
It would be one thing if he got nepobaby'd into a job when his qualifications are delivering pizza and working in a factory, but you don't know if that's the case or not.