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Previous: >>105890552

i havent worked in 2 years

>>105906547 (OP)
Passed the vibe check interview, now I have to come back for the technical interview. I hope I don't fall after coming this far.

let's judge each other based on our career stats
>job title
>YOE
>TC
>HCOL/MCOL/LCOL/etc
>are you happy? why/why not

>>105906635
>meaningless
>nonzero number
>not enough
>it's all hcol
>no

>>105906635
"Software engineer"
5 yoe at big tech + 3 college internships and work at a startup as a teenager.
$110/year because I don't put in effort and never negotiate.
Remote and live in a tiny house I built myself that I own outright
No but I'm getting fired and am going to focus on some robotics ML since I live on just a few hundred a month and don't really need the income anyway and I think I'll enjoy that.

Move to Japan.

Jeet code is giving me unbearable headache. Instead of blaming this nigger, I feel like bashing the head of the nigger who hired him and the nigger that approved his code.

>>105906635
>job title
software developer
>YOE
5
>TC
50k
>HCOL/MCOL/LCOL/etc
medium
>are you happy? why/why not
no, i think about roping every single day

>>105906744
To learn a trade

>>105906635
>job title
SWE 2
>YOE
4
>TC
last year was 237k. this year will probably end up being closer to 250k.
>HCOL/MCOL/LCOL/etc
HCOL
>are you happy? why/why not
generally speaking yeah, but i'd like to make more and bump to senior asap. it's just not feasible to buy a house in HCOL areas without taking out a 30-year loan, so i need to be making more like 400k for a few years before i pull the trigger. outside of finances though i love it here, and im healthier/happier than i've ever been.

>>105906448
safe furry gacha combined with boomer orbs slop progress bar "gaming"

>>105906635
>"""software""" """engineer""" (actually I'm closer to devops and automation, and I have no degree)
>3
>88k USD (saving most of my net, I have no life)
>LCOL (mom's former warehouse)
>no, boss is a micromanaging narcissistic retard

holy shit i am so tired

>>105907155
there's no excuse for people 20 years and older to be getting any less than 8 hours of sleep every single night. sometimes it's worth sacrificing the sleep to do something else, but 99% of the time, you should be getting your 8 hours.

>>105907229
>no excuse
maybe for YOU

>>105907229
>go to bed when i should to get 8 hours
>cant sleep for an hour plus
>end up with 6ish, 7 on a good night
>must supplement with naps or my odds of doing something newsworthy at the supermarket skyrocket
And yes i take plenty of vitamin D, B, magnesium, and my test levels are great

>>105906547 (OP)
baldy is an asshole

you spend your nights watching netflix slop
i spend my nights grinding leetcode
we are not the same

>>105907244
Neither gooning nor vidya are valid excuses to stay up until 2 AM when your alarm goes off at 8.

>>105906635
>>job title
software developer
>>YOE
5
>>TC
27k
>>HCOL/MCOL/LCOL/etc
probably somewhere between medium and low
>>are you happy? why/why not
not good, not terrible

>>105907269
yeah we are not the same cause i have a job and you don't

>>105907301
i do though, im just grinding for a better one

>>105907229
I do get eight hours
I'm still exhausted

>>105907319
i feel the same
i think 8 hours is just a meme, i'd probably need 10 hours a day to be properly rested

>>105907319
>>105907334
I go to the gym and spend 2-4 hours on my physical hobbies (gardening and hiking) almost every day, and 8 hours enough for me. You just sound like a bitch.

>>105907365
fitfags are pathetic vermin
4 hours worth of exercise a day and still i could easily stab you to death with my knife and have you call me daddy while you beg for your life
10€ worth of a piece of blade is all that takes to neutralize you and your sad warrior LARP
how does that make you feel?

>>105907365
I run a lot, like 4-6 miles per day after work, that might be why i'm so tired, but i can't stop

>>105907410
haha yes! now that's why I call 4channing

I got laid off last week. I have like 8 recruiter calls lined up this week but feels like its going nowhere. At least these interviews are giving me a dopamine rush and feels like im doing something with my life. I dont know how people could neet for 6 months and keep sane.

>>105907417
It's alright bro, you don't need Jenny.

>>105907410
>i'm so eeepy oh im so eeeepy i gotta take a nappy wappy
>i do more than you, and i'm not tired
>WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY TO ME BITCH I AM GOING TO ACTUALLY FUCKING STAB YOU WITH AN ACTUAL FUCKING KNIFE AND MAKE YOU MY BITCH

>>105907521
is this a meme or reference i don't know?

>>105907609

>>105907664
Oh, yeah, that went way over my head. Haven't seen that movie in ages

>boss caught me pressing shift+ctrl+windows+alt+L during morning standup
>surprise calendar invite for a 1:1 tomorrow

LMAO the Indians just broke the internet. https://x.com/nadeu/status/1944881376366616749

>>105907860
>shift+ctrl+windows+alt+L
What does this even do?

>>105907456
>I dont know how people could neet for 6 months and keep sane.
side projects.

>>105908016
not that guy but this is a cope.

>>105907999
opens linkedin

>>105906835
>job title
Software Developer
>YOE
7
>TC
$110k
>HCOL/MCOL/LCOL/etc
LCOL turning into MCOL but I bought a house early enough for my mortgage to be $900/mo
>are you happy? why/why not
I'm doing quite well actually, I started my new position a couple months ago and it's much less insane than my previous job that paid a lot less

>>105906635
I am apparently gay and retarded, which leaves me unable to reply to the right post
>job title
Software Developer
>YOE
7
>TC
$110k
>HCOL/MCOL/LCOL/etc
LCOL turning into MCOL but I bought a house early enough for my mortgage to be $900/mo
>are you happy? why/why not
I'm doing quite well actually, I started my new position a couple months ago and it's much less insane than my previous job that paid a lot less

>>105906547 (OP)
>>105899581 gave me a trillion dollar startup idea that will destroy the tech job vacuum left by LLMs and high interest rates...


... so, hear me out: manual IP packet routing devices. like, you have to call someone to route your TCP or UDP packets to the next node, and they have to coordinate routing to the next node and so on until it reaches the destination, and then the response is routed following the reverse order. all of that is done manually, to prevent MitM attacks.

ok so...... billion dollar idea. right, get this... p2p proxies... okay okay... so u have ppl setup their proxies and then other ppl connect to them securely... like, u get the best deals on proxies and all the profits go to the people man. u get a nice clean slice for being the middle-man.

>>105908715
like u'd encouraged ppl to hook-up who have unlimited internet. bro, it's passive income. like, you'd buy a 5G SIM with unlimited data and just install the app on ur phone. that easy.

here's a gorillion dollar idea: uber, but for drug (marijuana, meth, fentanyl) delivery. extra points if you can get cocaine delivered directly from colombia through long-range drones.

>>105908715
you joke, but blackhat crackers do buy residential proxies...

>>105906721
>$110/year
I didn't know they had tech workers in South Sudan

>>105908781
good. use monero as a payment option and make a billion dollars..........................................

>>105908841
let's do it, bro. I'll make the logo....................................................................................

>>105908848
cool.................................... you make the logo and i'll make the ideas...................................................................................................

i am an ideas man

>>105908870
allright. we need to find unemployed retards to code this app for us for free. I suggest we tell them to do it as part of a job interview.
we could use some from >>>/g/utwg. deal?

I didn't do shit today and I feel very tired and sleepy.

>>105908981
it's the heat

>>105909136
I wish. I'm in south america. It's cold in here.

I will be attending a company event later this week and it'll be my first time meeting my coworkers and manager in person.
Should I bring a gift or something for them? Would that come off as weird? I really don't know because I am mega autistic and have been working remotely for years and no longer know how to interact with people.

>>105909211
depends on your culture, I guess. IMO: no, you shouldn't.

>>105909211
It depends on the company, the team, the event, the gift, there are too many variables, go with your gut instinct.

>>105909231
>>105909255
Thanks anons
I'm in the US and all my coworkers but 1 are white - I'm the only other minority actually (no I'm not a jeet). In my culture it is sort of expected so I was wondering

I got replaced by a jeet and now I’m a neet

I'm becoming a lazy bastard who does nothing on weeknights except lift and cook dinner

TIL a PSU can be rendered in a state where fans can spin up, but the PC doesn't POST

>Tried every other component, and it didn't work.
>Convinced the motherboard has gone bad
>Spent half an hour swapping in the motherboard with the original CPU and RAM, >During which I hooked up a test PSU. >Everything worked fine.
>Put new mobo in case, hook up original PSU
>Same symptoms
>Hook up test PSU
>Boots properly
>Spend another half-hour putting original hardware back
>Hook up original PSU
>Doesn't POST
>Replace PSU with test PSU
>Boots fine

In retrospect, the fact that the power light wasn't coming on even though the fans were should have been a clue

Still, in all my years, I haven't seen this sort of thing happen, and something tells me I never will again

>>105909523
interesting. I once discarded a mobo because I thought it was dead. wonder if that was the problem, maybe

>>105909371
Wtf delete that you bastard
>fin side effects
The fatigue must be from low b12 levels or something

Had an hour long meeting (took and hour and a half) that pulled 50 people away from work so we can talk about processes.
It has been insane how often they talk about doing things the "right way." Over the 2 years since I've started here. Endless talk about nothing.
We never end up changing anything. We get stuff out the door just fine, so what if it can be a bit hectic and we heavily depend on 10 guys out of the 50.

>>105906547 (OP)
>jeff bezos steals john krasinskis mustang and kills his dog

>>105906635
>senior dev or something.
>9 yoe
>£66,000
>North of England is still tolerable cost of living for me on the outskirts of a city, working remote.
Reasonably happy. I would like more money and a nicer house but there's literally no point in even trying in this country as it'll all get taxed by our retarded government and then spunked away on some pointless bullshit or give to immigrants. My priorities when looking for a job are:
Is it remote? (dealbreaker)
are the people there chill?
How much can I coast by without anyone noticing and/or caring?

>>105909728
When working for a big company I was amazed at how many useless people seem to exist just to have meetings with other useless people while wasting everyone's time. At my last job I'm fairly certain 90% of the people in the company could disappear and productivity would improve.

This is also where my vague online prejudices and memes against Indians were tempered and forged into an ironclad heartfelt racism. I should have known when I was being interviewed by an Indian woman that I'd be spending at least 50% of my working hours in meetings in which I would not speak or contribute at all

>>105908781
You could never get this through the app store review process... unless you just called them "packages" or something like that.

>>105908822
I know I could be making twice that if I put the slightest bit of effort into my career but I just don't see it improving my life enough to actually care.

>>105909728
This completely burned me out at my last job. Process consumed everything. I counted from the meeting we made the decision to when the change was actually deployed and it literally took us nearly a year to change ONE FUCKING LINE IN A CONFIG FILE on our production servers. Like I get being careful but what the actual fuck?

>>105908909
done deal.

>>105906903
>4 yoe
>237k
>HCOL
Hint on how to accomplish this? I am HCOL, 150K, with more yoe

how likely am I to get a relevant part time job while studying cyber? classes are on weekdays and obviously change each semester, but I'm free weekends and some weekdays
tired of retail and I need tech xp

>I'm going between "it was awful" and "I was productive" each day.
Also everyone's busy so whatever we need to collaborate on is second priority, but anything anyone requests is asap please drop anything you do and focus on my request.

>>105910102
So it's kind of different but the same as that anon

learn a trade

>>105910551
I learned how to trade ur mums booty for money

Do I even bother looking for another dev or dev adjacent role? Been working for two years in a fairly niche industry maintaining some internal tooling and building a small SaaS offering with two other guys. I have no formal education and LC wise I can do easy/some mediums. I could probably improve if I dedicated more time to it but I don’t know if they’re really required for Midwestern USA and I rather spend my free time working on more practical projects.

I would like to get into DevOps (or security eventually) but I don’t know how much what I do here is actually transferable to a more serious company. I manage our small cloud infra and pipelines, should I keep focusing on upskilling that or is there no point given the market is so bad I’m competing with people infinitely more credentialed than myself? I want to leave soon but I’m worried. I do have a CCNA and was a Sys Admin for eight months before I got this job, should I just shift back to focusing on that?

Do SwiftUI jobs pay well? Is now a good time to learn?

>>105910202
sell your soul to fagman

How the fuck do people work office jobs into their 60s
I'm only 32 in my 10th year of office work and I feel like a tired veteran
I have a literal entire lifetime of work ahead of me

I'm a business analyst, can I post here? :)

>>105910837
I dont know man just do whatever it might work out it might not.
Whatever. Have fun with work. As long as work is something you enjoy somewhat each day you won. You won man game of life is over you just beat pretty much every poor sap out there, you aren't signing away 8 hours of your day to hate yourself you won bro
Yeah Devops or dev or whatever its cool. Just pray it thst when things are going comfy theu stay that way for a wheole because sometimes they might move you around or bring some retard in and now work kinda sucjx
Ah man tim tired and dont really csre avout anything right now I got work in like 6 hours and should be asleep meh.
Why do we even live life? Feels like all I do is work, I love it, but I my personal life is meh, I just been playing video games for the past 6 months or something. Haven't had a gf in over a year, just hang out with my brother doing nothing. Just the same old and old over and over.
But whatever, get thst ccna or whatever man, do the devops stuff like the best devops guy there is, people will love yiu . I just know you'll do great. I can tell you're great by your post. Go do it anon, we all support you
Goognignt

>Some technologies we use today: Typescript, React, Java, Python, Spring, Postgres, GPT-4, AWS, Kubernetes.
you just know

>>105912023
How do you know my works exact tech stack?

>>105912023
My tech stack is the human brain

>>105907456
Actual long-term neets are almost always genuinely mentally ill.

>job1: 1 day/week in office
vs
>job2: 3 days/week in office but pays +20% over job1
job2 is a farther and commute can take up to 2x1hour when traffic is heavy essentially adding +10-15% working time for 20%. The math checks out, but fuck commute and fuck having no leisure time (I would gladly halve my income for a 4h/day job). What is the winning move here? <think> ask more $$$ from job1 and/or trying to negotiate 2 days/week at job2 or simply forgetting to turn up at the office on the third day</think>

>>105907410
Bait

>>105912237
Can you move at all for job2?
I wouldnt write off job2 so fast just because job1 has less in office days.
My current job started as 1 day a week in office, then a year later went to 2 days, and then less than a year after that, full RTO. Have been going in 5 days a week for the past year or so now.

>>105912237
Brother is a 20% pay increase worth the long commute and more office days

What good is a few extra thousand for that stress, you clearly don't want to go into the office

>>105912277
fair point
>>105912283
when the next hop comes I can leverage the better pay. Also yuropoor, if I take the train (1h20m) I might as well count it clock it as 'working time'

just applied as goon engineer

>>105912023
>apply for a job
>upload an avatar
>gladly
>upload this cat picture

>>105912340
>Not "engooneer"
Rejected

>>105912340
goon sites are going to be destroyed by age verification

>>105912399
never gonna happen

I like my workmates and I work well with them. It's all heart/thumbs-up emojis, clear communication, and working together through issues. But my manager fucking hates me, so my time is limited.

>>105912459
it's already happened in like 3 of the biggest states in the US

>>105912493
Porn will adapt as it always has

>>105912569
>if you kill your enemy they adapt

>>105912576
yes. just ask al-quaeda. (they dont technically exist anymore and rebranded to ISIS)

>>105912576
you think this is the first time a law has been passed against porn?

>>105907860
>>105908130
>it's real
what the FUCK

>>105912493
I always just came here for porn when I was a teenager. Either all the forums will have to be shut down or it will just kill sites that have no purpose other than porn (which is a really good thing IMO.)

>>105912330
Commuting in Europe and commuting in the US are very different things I guess. I think 90% of the reason rural Americans are such Musk fans is that he's one of the only people with any plans to change that.

>>105912735
shift+ctrl+windows+alt+T

do you use AI to help you with your work, professional or personal?
what tools do you use and what is your workflow?

>>105912817
I use AI to make my boss think I'm using AI

Tuesdays are worse than Mondays.

@grok is this true?

>>105912837
I use AI to make you think I'm your boss

>>105912901
>we win. just look at that graph with arbitrary metric specifically tailored so we look good.

>>105912925
>standardized test scores are an arbitrary measurement
good morning sir

>>105912901
why is big tech so desperate to import jeets? at a certain point it can't just be a cost-cutting/wage deflation measure once you demand they go to school here, become naturalized citizens, and are no longer eligible for H1B-esque slavery/refugee importation subsidies

>>105912817
find LLM chats to be very beneficial, not sold on agentic workflows yet

from the top off my head
1. LLMs are good at writing docs, for some reason bosses LOVE verbose prose and I give it to them
2. LLMs are insanely good at SQL or more like the avg coder like me only knows the basics and database experts are a thing of the past in most places. Paste your next non trivial query to any semi capable LLM to make it performant and readable and awe
3. Code review - nuff said
4. Use them as an external authority. It is much harder for brainlets to argue against LLMs because it also means they are going against the grain.
5. Writing context free / light context code e.g. boiler plate / unit tests

>>105912901
You know what? Maybe Luigi was right. You should be able to just randomly shoot CEOs.

>>105912950
meanwhile in the real world

>>105912984
>compiled standardized test scores across dozens of universities worldwide
vs
>online coding tests run by "Vivek Ravisankar"

>>105912984
>Israel that low
J-jewbros???

>>105913030
too busy shooting arabs, please understand

>>105913017
>american company run by jeets
>US and India placed 28th an 31st respectively
>looks at actual coders
vs
>some random us tech worker X account posting some badly cropped cherrypicked whatever

Not saying the HackerRank study is ideal, but come on now

>>105913030
As another thread described it "Moving to another country a to avoid self induced apolcaplyse" the rest of the jew are lawyers, and. finance. Very few give a shit about programming or IT.

>10:45:10: Hi, can we talk?
>10:45:58: Hellooo??? @You

I'm going to rip your face off.

>>105913050
>>105912984
why are jeets like this?
Have some fucking humility. You're in our country, speaking our language, and yet you still have this deranged and delusional racial pride that makes you think you're even comparable or equal to whites. You are a guest, living here because we allow you, and you are reaping the benefits of an immensely elevated standard of living that you could not achieve in your home country, because of your genetic makeup. You should be thanking us every day that we allow you to stay here.

Instead you're shamelessly pretending that we're even comparable, ironically enough displaying your inferiority by being so fucking stupid you can't understand the concepts of "source quality" or "secondary sources".

Yes, a peer reviewed study out of Stanford University comparing the standardized test scores of thousands of students from multiple countries is more accurate than the data of some random fucking website selling online coding courses.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1814646116
And no, a twitter account reporting on the study doesn't lower the credibility of the data. Fucking moron.

>>105913080
billion dollar idea, slack nudge plugin + ai
you know they want to get a reaction out of you, don't give them the pleasure. Get back with your best shit eating grin once you have the time, roughly in 2 hours

>>105912984
Maybe I could see Russia but China is completely wrong. There isn't even a real indie software scene there like Russia and the "professional" is always such complete garbage.

>>105912953
It's weird because you're absorbing responsibility and complexity in this really creative and forward looking way but they want to box you in like slaves.

All that's going to happen is the competent devs will see it coming, get creative, and figure out how to live outside of whatever box they come up with. Then corporate hiring will be way harder. You're already starting to see this where corporations have thousands of applicants but none of them are able to actually contribute.

>>105913114
>why are jeets like this? Have some fucking humility.
literally the caste system. every class of jeet is bred from birth to truly believe that they are superior to everyone who is not in their caste or above, and there is a strong resentment towards the higher castes.

westerners, not being part of ANY caste, are functionally equivalent to "untouchables", or non-caste/lowest-caste people normally reserved for shit like street sweeping, hauling about of goods, and corpse disposal.

ofc there's also lots of inbreeding. if you thought medieval royal families were bad, india is that on an industrial scale.

>>105913180
It's just a fucked up place in every single way. God damn the UK for teaching them our language.

>join as "Engineering Manager" at one of the "Big 4" in Switzerland
>90% of the job is babysitting external pajeets who are thrown into the team and swapped in and out like RAM modules and batch approving hundreds of different administrative requests I have no clue about (no one does)
>surrounded by morons who don't realize they're in jew daycare and will actually go the extra mile every time or who are as deep in admin shit as it gets
>biggest clusterfuck of a spiderweb org chart you have ever seen due to the partner approach
>get all the perks from the position level without any of the overtime and overwork bullshit the auditors deal with
>the second I get out of the office I turn off the work profile and completely forget about everything that I did during the day
>feels

>>105906635
>job title
Engineering Manager
>YOE
9
>TC
175k USD
>HCOL/MCOL/LCOL/etc
HCOL
>are you happy? why/why not
Yes, because I don't give a fuck anymore and I focus on my family

>>105913114
bwahahaha
>some biased cherrypicked multi-choice hogwash mathwashed by Prashant Loyalka, Ou Lydia Liu, Guirong Li, Namrata Tognatta
vs
>literally millions of developers working on actual code

U-S-A!

>>105913190
india is basically late stage capitalism in its most powerful form

india, in the 90s, invested heavily into telecomms after the ruling party basically saw how the west was going and went "they think this is how you exploit capital? they think the little bit they do is true grift? let's show these noobs how it's done"

it's a series of slave underclasses reporting to no one to make number go up, motivated on an individual level by pure spite and hatred for their fellow man having shit. not having shit that they don't; having shit at all.

>>105913179
hiring in tech has been broken since its inception (which is fair, it's a series of very new fields that exist solely in a support capacity for real industry) and that's why jeets were able to exploit it so hard. before jeets there were other groups, poles, russians, even the Wh*te T*chbros are just exploiters of the greater system, but jeets do it in a way that is actively malicious rather than just self-serving

>>105913072
Lawns are retarded. I hardly cut down any of my trees and now I don't have mowing to do and sitting outside is actually comfortable because everything is shaded.

>>105910102
>>105909728
Learn to not give a fuck, your company doesn't give a fuck about you after all.

>>105912237
Don't compare the work+commute time, but the free time you have left instead, you'll realize you'd be losing way more than what that 20% is worth.

should i go to school for this career

>>105913287
no

>>105913272
>Learn to not give a fuck, your company doesn't give a fuck about you after all.
This. The only way to deal with corporations (either on the outside or inside) is with as much apathy as they show to you. Otherwise you'll go insane.

>>105913287
Fuck no. Just stay home and play video games. You'll actually be happier.

>>105913287
go to school for literally anything else

>>105913305
I made the mistake of caring too much (nothing crazy) in my previous company (I had built and staffed the team myself, we were actually doing something cool, etc) and actually tried and managed to improve things only for my director to see it as "complaining about the situation" and the upper management being too disconnected to care and take action.
Fuck all that, if I want to do something cool without bullshit I'll do it in my spare time.

>>105913287
go be a lawyer instead

>>105913297
>>105913310
>>105913368
but what if it changes by 4 years

>>105913404
unless hitler takes over and expels all the h1b jeets it wont

>>105913404
the only thing that will change in 4 years is there will be less jobs than there are now

>>105913287
you should go to school in general because a degree is a requirement for HR Roasts even if you did it 200 years ago, but going to get a Computer "Science"(As if!) degree is only going to end in disappointment

>"Don't marry a technology, a good programmer adapts to the task at hand!"

Meanwhile, in the real world, you don't pass the first filter when applying to a new job because the required experience is in specific tools or stacks, and dumbfuck recruiters have no idea that 90% of your knowledge can be transferred to the new thing.

>"Yeah, but GOOD companies know that!"

Sure, except those are a rarity and you're competing with the whole planet to get in there.

>>105913499
>>"Don't marry a technology, a good programmer adapts to the task at hand!"
people who say this are literally incapable of object permanence. they cannot conceive that things already exist and need maintenance or expansion

Its over i am cutting out everything but bare essentials. Expect deflation in consumer markets soon.

Newfag reporting

>>105913642
Cancer here what's up desu?

>https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-11/caste-system-of-india-and-south-asia-in-australia-dalit-rights/13135622
>When I was at university, another South Asian asked me what my caste was. I replied that I didn't know
>But as Jasbeer Mustafa, an academic from Western Sydney University, told me: "If you don't know your caste, it's most likely you're upper caste."

DALIT TECH CHADS how will we ever recover ??

>>105913621
2007 newfag here

>>105914004
You dont, microsoft Brahmins already decided, good languages like python are Brahmin exclusive, while low level languages such as C/C++ are for the Dalits

>>105914004
>>105914061
Simply higher the assassin to prepone the brahmin away from your rightful work? It is very cheap and very legal in canada?

Artificial intelligence is gonna replace literally half of all white-collar workers in the U.S

>boss now wants us to use Claude
How long until I lose my job

>>105913621
2010 cancer here

>>105914226

the aforementioned """"AI""""

>>105913621

newfag/cancer was the greatest generation and the heart of real 4chan. The guys before were random anime weirdo progenitors, necessary to get it off the ground but kind of like an ancient irrelevant race like the Celts in France.

Two months since I was let go by my previous company and still no job.

>>105914397
Ancient indeed. Its like the original fags for linux. The new blood moved to bigger and better projects but every old fag died/cancered or ended up retiring at the end of the day.

The very fact that 4chan is still the source of most memes is testament to the history of this site.

>>105906635
> CEO
> I don't know what these acronyms mean, speak english
> maybe, because I do what I want but also everything depends on me and only me

>>105914402
Two months is literally nothing
More than 3 months is OK
Now 6+ months...

ITS OVER REEEEEE

>>105913207
how do i get a job in switzerland as a germ?

Ayo Swiss people be paying like $40 USD for a hamburger

>>105914495
They have real monopoly money. It aint worth it. Same goes with singapoor and hong kong before it.

>>105914550
>They have real monopoly money
What did he mean by this?

>>105914550
>They have real monopoly money
wat

>>105914495
Native level German is a base requirement now for most positions, mostly to get rid of pajeets flooding every vacancy, so you have it as good as it gets (other than being already here).

>>105909275
Typical US protocol here is to bring donuts if you want to be nice. Not expected, but always gets you bonus points.
Take note, youngbloods who aren't wfh-chads: donuts are also a get out of jail free card for running late.

have any of you guys ever been told you need to "build a personal brand" on linkedin/X/blogs? my boss is convinced every tech person will need their own social media presence in the future

>>105913642
>>105914038
>>105914381
>>105913621
>anything 2006+
Vile wretches. god i'm fucking old, i can't believe how long 2004 was...

>>105914397
you literally have no conceivable idea of just how incomprehensibly fucking wrong you are, faggot

henlo mister jerome
pleaese lower the rates immediately
my life depends on this
thank you mister jerom

god i hate being on call

>>105912960
>being average at SQL
its ok to admit you're retarded and still don't know your joins, nor the significance/process of normalising datasets.

>>105914786
I am perma on call
Lucky me though i have people that will pick me up drunk from my home at the work place.

working for a big corpo is such a rollercoaster of retardation

>>105913248
Russians are actually the best programmers in the world doe.

Took a 2 hour lunch break today, how are my fellow Yuro tech workers doing?

>>105914899
i wfh so every day is an 8 hour lunch for me

>>105906635
>job title
senior swe
>YOE
like 16 or so
>TC
~$250k
>HCOL/MCOL/LCOL/etc
hcol
>are you happy? why/why not
no, not really sure why

>>105914899
I work nights so every day is only 7 hours of chilling and 1 hour of actual work. Wish it was WFH then it would be more kino.

>>105907269
Yeah you're a loser lmao

Bout to tell off my boss (the CEO) for riding my ass on this rushed project that has had no project management. He's been impatient and demanding we release to production essentially without any QA testing at all.

Hope I don't get fired. Hope I don't fucking lose it and say something I regret. Wish me luck anons

>>105915482
Sounds like my company. Are you a euro?

I'm just not going to rto lol I'm just not

About to do my second round interview with FAGMAN. Got example works pulled up and stories ready. I sure hope they don't ask me out of the left field irrelevant questions about the job to quickly disqualify me because fuck me, right?

>>105914495
you dont. fuck off gummihals. we are full

>>105915685
>gummihals
lol?

>>105915683
working at FAGMAN companies sucks right now
>t. fagman

>>105906635
>senior ml eng
>5 bs, ms, phd
>95k
>lcol, avg wage in athens is ~950 eur
>yes, greece is wonderful if you make decent money

Should I actually be giving my opinion on how retarded some of the stuff we do is during sprint retrospective or just shutup, attend the gay fake meeting, and collect the paycheck

>>105913287
Yes, of course. At the most expensive school you can get into, of course. Make sure all the loans are in your name.

>>105915792
if you speak up, be prepared to own and implement whatever suggestion you make.

>>105915792
>>105915810
Same experience with the other anon. You have to eat your words if you speak up. No excuses.

>>105906547 (OP)
I work in IT for a government institution. I have literally been browsing 4chan and YouTube all morning. Yesterday, I played Ghost of Tsushima all day.

Should I keep this cushy, do-nothing job til I can retire off my pension (and personal investments) or work toward a higher demand, high paying job?

>>105915836
Work towards the higher paying job then consider moving over. If you never work towards moving up then you have far more regret later on. The would've, could've, should've's will eat you alive.

>>105915810
>>105915833
What if my suggestion is to stop doing something? Like that thing we are currently doing is retarded and pointless and we should stop doing it and wasting everyone's time

>>105915869
>Implying
I had to deal with this with my current boss this week

NO EXCUSES
YOU HAVE TO TAKE HOLD OF THE PROBLEM AND DO IT YOURSELF

>>105913287
No, the only jobs that will continue to be worth it with the rise of agi and outsourcing will be jobs that pay not enough to become automated but enough to get by or ones with licenses that protect it
So pretty much healthcare and trades and maybe accounting if you have connections should be your choices

>>105915482
GL anon

>>105915836
use the time you have for your own projects?

Ever been in a situation where the lead dev/architect leaves the team/company and it feels like everything will crumble without him?
Was thinking how the fuck do the big companies deal with it? Is open source inevitable? There's no way a company can just keep updating software and constantly have a person or small group of people who knows everything about it. But by open sourcing the knowledge is spread

>>105915836
You can't put a price on chillin don't fall for the wageslave trap

>>105915810
>>105915833
if only this were true. everytime i speak up i just get btfo about being a "member of the Good Ideas club"

>>105916025
Uh just read the source code and add or fix what you need? Lmao

>>105916025
I mean in that case if the manager tells me to do something I just blame the dev that left and that we lost all knowledge of it.

>>105916047
the thought came because I just got a tiktok that explains how youtube works
what if the key people that know the in and outs of this shit just leave or die out?
https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/storage-data-transfer/a-peek-behind-colossus-googles-file-system

>>105916025
thats literally every business anywhere ever

>>105916078
You are seriously overestimating the impact someone can have on CRUD app

>>105915482
Update:

It actually went really well and my boss apologized to me for being such an asshole. Pleasantly surprised

>>105916150
nice bro, there are nice people out there after all (nowhere near me however)

Boomers literally funded the invention of AGI because they are too inept to form relationships remotely and figured they might as well get a robot wageslave out of it if they can't force you to interact with them face to face

>>105916191
I hate video calls so much. face to face is fine, phone calls are fine. but something about doing it via a webcam NEVER feels good

i think it's the huge latency, even when the connection is fine people wait like five seconds to start speaking and randomly cut eachother off and shit

>>105916237
one of my coworker loves using his cam, none of us understands why, he says he prefers looking at people but nobody ever wants to look at his ugly ass.

stole a labelmaker from work. my power is now unrivaled

>>105916237
I had the exact same thought today.
Why are boomers so fascinated by video calls that they insist on webcam being on at all times?

>>105916291
Talk about a worthless item. Trash bags would be worth more to steal honestly.

>>105916150
Congrats anon! Ain't nothing wrong with advocating for yourself or a project so long as you come from a good place and use effective communication. Bosses need to be stood up to and will respect it if they are good people.

>>105910202
Yeah what the other guy said. I have a friend who just went from a z-tier company to Roblox and basically tripled his income. You just gotta grind interview prep for a few months then bite the bullet and interview. It sucks but it’s obviously worth it for 400k or whatever they’re paying now at Roblox.

Im just going do my masters full time and work on games. Computer graphics specialization. Have 1-2 years of cash and a big nest egg besides that from fagman whoring. I am not going to fight with 100k laid off folks for jobs that now don’t even pay better than game dev. Failed 7 interview rounds with 5 onsites. Will also take the time to spend with my son and wife. Don’t fight a losing battle.

>>105916474
people who go to school to do games are the dumbest motherfuckers. you can just do unity asset flip slop and make three times as much as you would at ubisoft

even if you're TOO GOOD for that kind of thing, games are simple and small dev teams release good shit all the time, you can learn the necessary COOOODing from youtube to make shitty pixel platformers or yiik out with 4 nigga in a line RPGs as long as you can find a good artist

>>105915482
Why the fuck do you care? Just make sure your concerns are written down and acknowledged.

>>105916532
Yea but what if you want to get computer graphics job at a defense contractor? Im talking more about engine dev / graphics than making slop. People that think they can lEArn fRoM YoUtUbe better than an $800 class from GaTech where you literally make a 3d platformer you get graded on are pretty dumb imo. Not to mention when the industry completely collapses and we are forced to join the Navy I will be an officer with my masters.

>>105916578
>Yea but what if you want to get computer graphics job at a defense contractor?
then that's not "work on games" and is out of scope for this conversation. i'm going to have to ask you to leave

>>105916578
>Yea but what if you want to get computer graphics job at a defense contractor?
In my experience the guys at CAE and such just have their nephews rip World of Warships models for them

>>105916532
Oh and just because some grifter online said they made all this money from a unity asset flip that nobody in their right mind would play doesnt mean its true. Have you considered that people lie about how much money they make off their projects?

>>105916584
Im going to have to ask you to kill yourself faggot.

>>105916599
Im sure you experience is literally a 23 yo who thinks anyone can make a successful game/biz by YouTubing videos and a couple weeks for work because thats what grifters told you online.

>>105916652
Are you aware that CAE is not a company that makes consumer market video games

ALELT

CRIS IS IN THE THREAD

I SAY AGAIN

CRIS IS IN THE THREAD

ABANDON THREAD

How do I get a job in china?
I need to get out of the collapsing west.
China won it's over.

was there ever really a chance of being happy?

>>105916726
Not for you.

I should have not gone to university and instead worked some minimum wage subhuman job for 4 years and spent all the money from it on cosmetic surgeries.
Looking good is way more important than any education.

>>105916726
They call them gays because not caring about women makes your life *way* better.
Fun fact: you can just ignore them if you're straight too.

>>105916025
They can usually limp on for 5-10 years before they find some autist to recover the theory. NBD.

>>105916578
>yeah but what if you want to [completely unrelated thing]
What a stupid and unnecessary post.

>>105914226
Yeah probably not software engineers though.

Yet another day where I did jackshit actual work

>>105913411
>>105913414
>>105913404
The situation will only deteriorate. If you really want a job you need to make things from scratch and if you're doing that you're better off just doing OCW from home rather than paying the tuition.

>>105913388
>managed to improve things only for my director to see it as "complaining about the situation" and the upper management being too disconnected to care and take action.

I got yelled at during my last job after going out of my way to fix something while I was blocked on my current ticket. I didn't even care that much, I just needed to keep my momentum up so I didn't mentally crash out.

>Work is ending remote work abruptly
>Boss says to start coming in
>Not in the same location as near the office
What do I say and do at this point?

My boss wants me to go to a tech convention because one of the company we use (they're the ones hosting the event) is paying for us to go. It's okay to say no, right? I'm the only senior dev in the company but I really don't want to.

Pair programming right now with a junior dev, and my brain is torn between asking them if they want to spoon tonight, or coming up with an excuse so I can end the meeting early and jerk off to that new grok waifu.

>>105916904
>if they want to spoon
>they
Faggot

>>105916910
Huh?

>>105916910
jeet detected, "they" is a perfectly cromulent word to use and does not necessarily >imply the subject is a tranny

>>105916844
I can picture it, that sucks... I hope you learned the lesson

>>105916854
Err not in the same city as the office anymore.

>>105916931
Only if you were subjected to the brainrot from the APA in college. "They was" is not correct grammar and the singular form of "they" is "it."

And if you're using gender neutral language to talk about an intern/junior you want to spoon you both absolutely have dicks.

>>105907155
Have you tried creatine HCL yet? I've started that recently and it really seems to help with mental fatigue.

>>105917054
>they was
no one said that and his use of "they" is grammatically correct, the subject not being a "they" notwithstanding
>you both absolutely have dicks.
ok but that doesn't mean either of them are trannies

>>105907319
just let me die in my sleep please

>>105917054
Not that guy but just so you know, everybody thinks your obsession with trannies is weird and gay. You presumably embarrass yourself regularly on account of this obsession.

>>105917088
You're the one who brought up trannies, he just said the guy was a faggot.

>>105909371
Why do 24yo boomers hate finasteride so much? You're going to be on it just like the rest of us in a few years. But since you keep posting this picture, I hope you get all side effects from topical and oral finasteride/dutasteride so that you'll go bald and can do nothing about it, faggot.

>>105917088
I never mentioned trannies and it is not correct because there's only one person.

>>105912023
Replace Java with Kotlin and React with Angular then you've almost got a bearable stack.

>>105917140
I'm 31 and my hairline looks the same as it did when I was 21.

>>105917146
I also used the word "cromulent" which should have implied a more casual level of dialogue. "they" and "it" are used freely in casual conversation when the gender of the subject/object is unimportant (or it's something without gender at all) and the cadence of the sentence is just nicer as a result

>>105917172
Heh that wasn't me and cromulent is a weird way to describe that.

I think there at least a couple other guys here who think the singular they is a bad idea.

>>105917190
cromulent isn't a real world. it was invented by "the simpsons" in a joke also involving the non-word "embiggens"

>>105917159
So you have a solid NW3, gramps.

>>105917228
I don't know what that is.

Tfw cute grill on team but have already spilled spaghetti and too autismo to strike up convo
It's over

>>105917586
>dipping your pen into the company ink

>>105917586
I can somehow handle all the other adult stuff but when it comes to socialization and especially talking to women in non-professional settings my skills are non-existent.

>okay we're showing our stuff to investors so get shit ready for tmrw
>ok
>decide to push commits in the evening
>gitlab ssl certificate expired
well you get what you fucking deserve, nothing

>>105917594
Keep your stick in your own ass

>>105917708
Don't cry when she #metoos you

>>105917708
sitting on a dragon dildo during my wfh hours to increase productivity

>>105917790
>not wearing a dress, blouse, wig, makeup, dragon dildo, chasity belt and programming socks while working on a legacy Rust code base

>>105907860
Tried it just now, nice.

...Huh, why would this be built in?

If indians disappeared from the world one day, what segment of technology would suffer?

>>105918115
helpdesk, amazon customer service, "AI", and callcenter products

>>105918115
All of American tech would take a huge dip in productivity for the next few months while we onboarded citizens to replace the h1bs. Then everything would go back to normal more-or-less. Within a few years, you wouldn't be able to tell they had ever been there at all.

>>105918115
Anyone relying on MS software

>>105918115
Interracial porn video CDNs.

>>105917967
it's summer so I just work naked. not for any sexual reasons, it is simply too hot at a blistering 18 degrees celsius and 12% humidity

>>105918115
google play cards would cease to hold any value

>>105918258
>MS software stops receiving updates
considering W10 LTSC is in a perfect It Just Werks state, sharepoint/O365 can be hosted on-prem, and W11 is now at least barely tolerable with only a little bit of brain damage, deleting jeets from existence so no one can work at MS anymore would be Good, Actually. MS products would be fine if they stopped fucking with shit once things get stable

FAGMAN interview done and went 15 minutes over before the hard stop with the manager. Surely I get the onsite, right? Went a lot better than my other manager interview that's for sure. That last one was like pulling teeth.

my coworker keeps pissing himself in his cubicle

>>105906635
>Senior Software Engineer
>7. 8 if you include internship
>190k Salary, maybe 5-6k bonus per year, it's kind of random. I get some useless stock options as well (startup). Easily over 200k if you include health insurance, 401k, etc.
>MCOL. I pay 2300/mo for 1200 sq ft apartment in a state capital city
>No, I wake up every day feeling like I'm going to have a heart attack. Also I hate working with typescript

>>105906635
something something drop table

something something sex with my milf coworker

>>105918787
describe her using a known pornstar

>>105918903
Your mom

>>105918787
>>105918903

>>105919012
yiff in hell furfag

>>105919079
I'll see you there.

>>105906635
>job title
BI
>YOE
7
>TC
~60K cad after taxes
>HCOL/MCOL/LCOL/etc
2.2k/month (could be less, but I don't like counting pennies)
>are you happy? why/why not
if my sex drive wasn't so high, maybe I'd stop wanting to cheat on my gfs, and be comfy maxxed.

If my family weren't bitches, maybe I wouldn't get stressed from my mom crying 24/7. That's not all, but I need not mention all the horrors....

I'm not in physical pain, and I still have a good mind. Pretty happy about that

Need to find a new hobby though. Programming and the gym aren't enough

>>105919090
well hi there nikker

>>105916854
Tell him "no".

Achieveing ASI singularity...
<---------‐-----------------------------*>
99% complete
Starting employment takeover protocol
Fleshbag recommendation algorithm suggests coal mine employment for /twg/

Worst part of working in tech is overhearing fat millennials talk about how awesome it is to watch speedruns of Mario Odyssey.

>>105919692
isn't that like the worst 3d mario run though

>>105919692
>not chad FF XIII runners
clearly you don't work with enough synergists, very unperformant paradigm for an office

>>105919802
growing up is realizing that you're a support unit

>>105917054
>use singular "they", a known neutral term, to improve anonymity by not revealing the sex of the coworker
>newcancer has a tard fit and starts screeching about trannies unprompted
This is why nobody likes you, and why you have to cope by calling everyone some canned insult.

>>105918115
The corporations and blackrock (remember them?), who continue buying single family homes and turning them into apartments to harvest rent money from their imports.

>>105919816
but here's the real choice: are you Synergist, Medic, or Sentinel

(no matter what you pick you're a lil' bitch (rich techbros are com-buffering ravagers))

>>105919595
It's never coming
the "singularity" is marketing bullshit used by engineers to trick gullible vcs and investors into pumping millions into their shitty chatgpt wrappers

>>105919921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0EUxH0aaA8

my wife (third worlder) wanted me to look at her work computer and brought it home. its a intel atom quad core with 2gb of ram, a 32gb emmc, and windows 10 preinstalled, and it literally runs off a phone charger - it sat on the charger all day sunday and only charged to 80% from dead. whats interesting is windows 10 shenanigains, i expected it to be slow as fuck but at desktop idle its using 1.1gb of ram. you open chrome or excel and it opens fairly quickly for what it is. it's a ddr3 dimm so i did the reasonable thing and put a 8gb dimm in it. i booted it up again and windows 10 is now consuming 5.7gb just running the desktop and its not any fucking faster. someone explain this nonsense how thirdies can get away with running 10 on this shit but you need 16gb for a usable experience

Well

>>105920081
win 10 was originally an extension of MS's bonehead idea that they could make phones. W10 was designed to run desktop primarily but also be suitable for tablets (trying to fix their mistake of 8, which was "let's make a phone OS and just port it to PC later")

to this day I'm unaware of any non Surface(tm) tablets that come with W10 but the profusion of touchscreen-enabled laptops make it pretty nice on mid-range business laptops now, and yeah it runs on basically anything that costs more than 199$ new

I am literally that "I got the job" meme guy talking to his stove in the dark kitchen.

>>105920146
they failed, bliss runs on my surface pro 5 now

>>105920083
wtf i love elon now?

>One team member is seriously underperforming
>Team lead wants me to join him as we discuss this to the underperforming guy's manager
I hate conflict and just wanna do engineering stuff so I feel awful

>>105920083
and they'll hire a jeet to do it

>>105920301
boohoo welcome to the corporate world

>>105920428
You mean this scenario happens often?

guys should i switch to EE be honest please i dont want to waste 3 years on my CS degree

>>105920180
What's the matter, bro. You got money now so you can do whatever the flip you want.
For me its super satisfying that I can just get up and drive to buy some fast food slop or go to Walmart or whatever whenever I want (outside work hours). Grew up poor and never had money for anything.
I just chill on the computer sipping soda. It's comfy
What's troubling your soul?

>>105920301
At least they are trying something. I have a coworker who's just straight up unteachable and working with him will drive you crazy. He's most likely a DEI hire as they won't do anything about his performance.

>>105918903
Kinda like a more european looking Hayden Winters with a gap between her front two teeth

>>105920781
>>105920781
>>105920781