Thread 106232425

RTX 5090 caused its first fire

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>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid purchases for new builds but if you have an ASRock mobo and Zen 5 CPU update it to the latest BIOS ASAP which may or may not solve the melting issue.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
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AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

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Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
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Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>106219639

>>106232425 (OP)
A 5090 caught fire and you're laughing??

>>106232425 (OP)
Is 4070 super a good card?

I just switched GPUs and opened HWinfo, I remember someone saying you have to delete some stats from NVIDIA GPUs

>>106232557
depends on the price

well lads, built my first PC since 2012 tonight and everything seems to be working just fine. probably could have saved an hour or two with some things, since I am a little rusty. But im surprised at the end that had no issues getting it up and running

another hijacked OP with brand flame wars, how great

I bought a $450 mobo and there is nothing that you can say about it to me

>>106232425 (OP)
mosfet can fail on any GPU

Is there any point upgrading my i5 750 to an i7 870?

>>106232705
Model?
How many SATA ports does it have?
How fast is the LAN?
It has a POST Code Debug LED right? RIGHT?

>>106232716
"Upgrading" to one product tier above from the same year from 15+ years ago does not sound like a worthwhile investment of your time and money. Are you hiding out in the deepest jungles of Madagascar or something?

Anons, why are 4090s as expensive as 5090s? You've always said that "whenever a new series drops, prices of the previous ones go down".

>>106232853
because 4090s are still more powerful than any card that isn't a 5090

>>106232853
40s stopped being made when 50s started. That's about it. The price will still come down eventually as long as more 5090s enter the market but it will take a while.

>>106232853
The Chinese are modding 4090s to 48gb for AI and making more money off one card than a 5090 is worth

I should do an hour of some AI gens and see if my cable starts melting to my 5090 or not. I really wish the spec actually had some voltage monitoring or temp monitoring built in.

>>106232772
I have taken your advice on board and will act accordingly.

>>106232965
>modding 4090s to 48gb
Why not just pirate a RTX 6000 Ada Generation instead?

Not sure if anyone will bother with the wall of text, but here we go.
Help a brokie out. Is Logitech G G402 Hyperion Fury as good as it gets for budget gaming mice for my case? (Also base price comparison for everything else listed below. Everything else is wired unless mentioned otherwise.)
I need something with at least 3 side buttons. (I know some of them here are CPI adjustment but programmable according to rtings)
I have been using wireless mice for years and I love not needing to bother with the cable (broke things by getting tangled with the cable in the past), but for gaming mice going wireless increases price noticeably compared to wired variants.
I also prefer something that is not loud. (Though used a loud mouse in the past, I am willing to compromise here if need be)
I tend to be rough with mice, so durability is important (Logitech stuff, while not great, tends to last at least a year with me. Not sure how other brands compare.)
It is also bigger and heavier than the mice I am using. I have small hands and I prefer smaller mice. Though I used a mice with comparable size and weight in the past and it wasn't that bad?
Thoughts? It goes for 25 bucks where I am. Anything better in this price range?
G502 Hero exists as an alternative, but doesn't seem worth 60 % higher price.
G305 Lightspeed also exists as a much more competitive alternative. Lighter and smaller than G402. Wireless to save me from cable BS. But has only 2 side buttons. Also clicking is louder than others listed before. Only 30% more expensive than G402.
Last Logitech option is G502X. Despite being on the bigger end it is relatively lightweight. Has a similar side button layout with programmable extras. Has free scroll mode on top (I know I need to compromise on tight budget but I miss having this). Unlike other mice listed before, it has optical switches, which should mean more durability I believe.(Worth nothing that side buttons only use mechanical.) Though it is on the louder end
1/2

>>106233055
and costs 90% more.
I am aware of durability issues that are common with logitech mouses. I know double clicking/not clicking happens after a while. Though for the price I guess I am content if it lasts at least a year.
Is there a durable alternative in similar price range? There are "endgame gear" mouses for 2x price that are purportedly have "high quality", though I don't know if this is a reddit meme or I can really count on them to not cause any problems for years. (Though again, wired with only 2 side buttons.)
Another alternative is GLORIOUS Model I. Big but lightweight. Mechanical switches purportedly rated for 80M. Has 4 side buttons. Quiet. But ugly and exposed design, I am worried that water or something coming from top will short circuit something. And from a quick google it doesn't play too nicely with linux and 60% more expensive.
GLORIOUS Model I 2 Wireless, as the name suggests, wireless version of this. Has wired, USB receiver and bluetooth modes. The rest are similar to above. Thrice the price of 402. Has Amazon second hand option available for half of that price. Supposedly checked by Amazon but again, I don't think it is rational to trust random minimum wage worker there without technical skills to test it properly.
Razer V3. 3 side buttons, big and moderate weight, quiet. Optical switches. Limited Linux support so need VM to reprogram. Twice the price.
Razer Basilisk V3 X A wireless version of above. Slightly heavier. Mechanical switches. Same number of buttons. Bluetooth option alongside receiver. 2.5 times the price of 402.
1st Note: Again I am also on Linux. So in terms of programming inputs stuff like KDE settings and solaar play nicely with logitech, that's one of the reasons, alongside price and familiarity, many considerations are among them. I don't fully know for sure if I am going to be out of luck with other brands.
2nd Note: After typing all of this out, maybe G502X and Razer V3 are better values, but I am not sure.
2/2

picking up a powermac g4 later today, might turn it into a sleeper build

>>106233012
They aren't using it themselves. They simply buy up cheap 4090 stock around the work to mod and resell for $4.5k a piece and make mad profits off the difference in material cost and sale price
And good luck getting an rtx pro 6000 blackwell at msrp in china. they're only available through grey market resellers at a high markup with no warranty

>>106232361
That thing probably needs a sane power limit or beefier cooling than air cooler on a dual CCD CPU without power limits. Consider 420/360mm decent AIO.

>>106233075
This just reminded me that I think there is a g5 sitting downstairs or in storage. I need to find time to do something cool with that.

>>106233200
ah dope
I'm reading up on conversion kits right now, they have some for the g5 too
https://thelaserhive.com/product-category/g5conv/

>>106232425 (OP)
>>SSD (OS drive)
>Budget: NM790
>Mid range: SN7100
>Premium: SN850X
>Flagship: SN8100
Where is Samsung?
Are they shite now?

>>106233258
Thank you! This is much more elegant than what I was imagining I would come up with for a solution.
>>106233265
No idea, I just bought a 990 Evo Plus and its fantastic. Though, anything would seem great compared to the 970 evo plus that I was using on my old system. That little guy is gonna last forever though.

How come resizeable bar is disabled for my second gpu? It works fine on my first one (same cards). Is it because there isn't a monitor connected?

>>106233265
Yeah they are shit now
>>106138176
>>106138626
>>106164283

>>106233265
Just typically overpriced
At the same price as an equivalent model they're fine
also the history of firmware issues

>>106233359
My 990 and 9100 pro work just fine. The complains seem to be about the 980 only.

My current machine has grab bag of a Samsung 870, 980 and 990 Pro (boot) due to carrying over old drives. If I'm going to more NVME or SATA I'm probably going to get even more Samsungs because it'd be funny. A big fat 990 Evo Plus or some future 9100+ dramless might be the ticket when I get bored and must consume more storage.

>>106233265
current op is made by amd shill and spammer known as nicotroon, he copies some old, outdated op and removes everything related to intel and nvidia
here is the proper op >>106211906

>>106232716
perf looks about the same in games here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haBhSHkjAXo

How's the 5060 for £250?
Currently got a 1660

>>106232425 (OP)
why undervolting the gpu caught fire?

>>106233075
oops, just saw that its the g4 mdd version which is notoriously bad for conversions
But it's fine, i have a 3D printer and a dream

>>106233686
its a decent gpu, roughly twice as fast as your 1660

>>106233686
8gb vram sucks balls in 2025 but if that's taxes and all included not terrible value for that money.

>>106233591
>thread died
KWAB

>>106232425 (OP)
>Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
LAMAOOOO!

We are getting workstation for my work.
Starting with 128 GB in 1 slot. as soon as money allows - 512 GB (4 slots).
In future upgrade to full 1024 (8 slots).

128 GB will be minimum and can't even use the CPU fully with it (64 threads compilations, plus VMs and servers).
On 256 it will work fine I suspect, while 512 is for many heavy VMs.

>>106233769
>starting with single channel
LAMAOOOO

>>106233769
>less dimms than channels
>bragging about poverty tier

>>106233708
>>106233713
Thanks bros, this is what I have so far
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZtfxJn
How does it look?

>>106234041
nice build, only thing i would change is PSU, go with 850W or higher, PSU is the one thing that you can always grow into, a high quality one can last 10 years

>>106234041
looks good
dont listen to this retard >>106234094
750w is more than enough for 5700x3d + 5070, there's plenty of headroom

>>106234041
You can just make an am5 build with more power and upgrade potential down the line.
5700x3d in 2025 is a retarded meme.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rkNYFZ

>>106234041
>>106234196
To add on 5700x3d is no longer cheap.
Nor is ddr4 memory. Paying sixty bucks for 2x8 ddr4 is nuts.
I assume google is giving you bunch of reddit posts where idiots there are ogling builds like that but that is very outdated now.
You can swap CL30s for memory if you feel like spending 10-20 bucks more.
You might get a different B850 too, I picked it more or less randomly.
7600 seems to go cheaper than 7600x and 9600(x) where you live. There is not much performance difference between them, but you might swap to 9600(x) if it goes down.

>>106234094
>>106234103
>>106234196
>>106234238
Thank you lads, very helpful and much appreciated.
>I assume google is giving you bunch of reddit posts
Yeah, everybody was wanking off the 5700x3d and saying that AM4 was good enough for now
I'll take this into consideration, cheers.

>>106233690
undervolt tells the cpu/gpu to boost even harder unless you set a power or clock limit to prevent it

>>106233907
>>106233781
>*coping*
anything below 128 GB is a meme, if you do anything serious on your *workstation*
and yes the build will use all 4 channels.

>>106233690
on the contrary, undervolting reduces the risk of this happening if it makes the card use less power
he probably got a gpu with a defective power stage or voltage controller which happens in some cases

>>106234367
undervolt is telling the hardware to work harder on the frequency unless there is another limit in place (ppt/tdc/edc/etc)

>>106234322
isn't that mainly a thing with radeon? nvidia boost algorithm shouldn't stray from the target clock much

>>106234425
it opportunistically boosts as high as it wants until it hits some sort of limit it can be thermal or power.

Gonna get 4k oled to watch anime porns haha

>>106234409
Frequency only has a linear relationship with power while voltage increases power by the square of itself. Undervolting in most cases reduces power draw significantly even if you raise the frequency at that voltage point.

>>106234572
power draw is not constant its variable by the workload. thats why most x3ds cant even pass sha3 even at stock because the stock boost is too aggressive for the workload

wow I decided to check this thread while on vacation and nicotroon still isn't perma range banned
I guess banning him would lead xer to an heroing irl and mods decided to be lenient

>>106232299
Chinks are selling mobile intel engineering sample cpus on aliexpress slotted into a desktop socket. Mine came delidded too. Everything is unlocked and I'm able to overclock it using XTU on a b760 mobo.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPTKgbT

>>106234592
unlocked multiplier overclocking on a b series intel board is crazy

>>106234592
Interesting. I don't have time, money or use case to mess with this but I would do so for novelty's sake if I had.

>>106234581
>thats why most x3ds cant even pass sha3 even at stock
i always see SHA3 hyped up as the ultimate stress test but i've never had an undervolt that could pass everything else but fail SHA3
possibly another reddit meme

>>106234581
You are conflating multiple different variables with voltage and ending up with a wrong conclusion

>>106234637
It was much more straightforward than I expected. The lidded version requires that you add some washers to the cpu clamp to raise the height. The delidded version requires you to remove the clamp and screw in the provided plate.

And then the TDP and multipliers have to be manually set or else the CPU runs at like 2.1 ghz and 55w. I also bought a chink motherboard to replace my dead Asrock itx. I couldn't find where to set the multipliers on there.

>>106234602
I'm very happy with this kind of performance for $230 (cpu + itx mobo).

>>106232772
Sometimes you just want to max out your generation

>>106234856
maxing it out would be an 880

>>106234493
global south getting internet access was a mistake

>>106232759
yes
5gb (idk why not 10 but it wasnt why I bought it)
yes

my ram is 6000nts cl30
but bios says its running at 5400nts
wat do

>>106234493
theyre not even trying to be subtle about it anymore...

>>106234895
are you calling him a taco, negro or aussie

>>106232462
custom cable status??

>>106234985
not aussie
and does it even matter

>>106234977
Then it is running at 5400.
Manual OC or leave as is.

>>106234977
put it on 6000 in the bios

>>106234977
enable xmp?

>>106233320
Rebar gives the CPU full access to GPU memory, instead of 256MB chunks. Talking out of my ass but I would assume it would only work on a single GPU due to that.

>>106235044
but why it not at 6000nts

From previous thread - any issues?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bQPvyW

Gonna be in a situation without an ethernet port for about 5 months
recommend a pcie wifi card please and thank you
am4 (b550) if it matters

>>106235374
yes, intel

>>106235467
The one thing to know is that Intel restricts their "xx1" chipsets to their own CPUs so don't buy eg. an AX211-based card. Aside from that there's really not much to them. Find out what WiFi speed your router supports (ac/ax/be) and sort by lowest. Buy the cheapest one with an antenna and heatsink.

>am4 (b550) if it matters
Do make sure your PCIe slot is actually active. Some boards disable them when you install an NVMe in the second slot. I don't think it was much of an issue on B550 but loads of boards have come out since I was last in the market for one.

>>106234979
Subtle? lol. lmao even.

>>106232557
It was good and is only like 5% behind the 5070. But right now you should either buy a 9070xt or wait for the 18gb 5070 super that will be out by march.

>>106234856
Should have bought am4. Even now after the loss of the 5700x3d at $160 you can still get a 5800xt for $160 to cap out the platform cheaply. Intel changing their socket yearly sucks

Wake up Radeon tards, it's time to shill ue5 slop now

>>106235677
>5800xt
You're still doing it, what the fuck are you doing?

Apple is releasing a "macbook" with an iphone cpu for $600 to sell to poors (blacks and women) as a status symbol

>>106235690
I have a 5700x and am just waiting for am6 and ddr6 since ddr5 has been such an abortion. The idea that I cant buy two sticks now and pop in another two when ram prices drop is just completely unacceptable.

>>106235710
Everyone I know with an iphone is already either Mexican or woman.

>>106235735
Now you can own an iphone laptop

>>106234895
>t. cumgargler

>BF6 runs like a charm without any flavor of fake frames
the fad is finally in its predictable visible decline
can't wait to hear "AI" a lot less in the near future

>>106233075
okay, the case is disassembled and cleaned
anyone know how to remove old age yellowing from transparent plastic?

>>106235816
Your floor carpet is so fucking ugly

>>106235809
Turns out the secret to optimization is just make a game from like 10+ years ago but with better textures..

>>106235856
looks better if you could see the full room, only 2 x 3 meters
my dog loves playing on it

>>106235685
everything from the 7900XT and up should be able to run this game at 1440p, ultra settings with 60fps.
This is a game issue and not a card issue

How much will the 24gig version of the 5070ti cost? Im gonna build a new PC now, but I could replace it later on

Is intel so done?

>>106235993
They're going to be scalped long enough you might as well just wait for the 6070ti. Too valuable to ai niggers
If you need to upgrade just do it. Trying to time it perfectly is totally luck based, waitfagging is a mental illness. There will always be something better just around the corner
If you are an ai nigger stop being poor and buy several 3090/4090/5090s

>wait for 5070ti super 24gb to launch
>scoop up a 4090 that is now $500 cheaper
r8 my idea

My next build is going to be a 6090 and Nova lake driving a 1080p monitor, and no one can stop me.

>>106233069
It doesn't matter at this price range, get any mouse that covers your requirements.
Side note for anyone interested: The endgame gear mice are good but more expensive, suitable for claw-grip mostly. I've used one for 5 years without any issues.

what's the case in this vid?

https://newsroom.arm.com/news/arm-announces-arm-neural-technology

AYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

>>106232425 (OP)
idk if this is the "please help me fix my shit" general but if it is:
my rx6700xt is spazzing out, i have it since march last year and i don't think it gave me much issues until january this year, where it would not output video after wake from sleep mode and/or hibernation. It did that for a few weeks and then just started working properly until mid july, where it started having those same issues again. Except now it's even worse, before just a power cycle or two would fix it, now it just straight up refuses to actually work (plugged in but acts as if it's not there at all), so last week i decided to try with my old rx580 and that one worked immediately. Day after that, not wanting to give up on it, i tried the 6700 again and it worked somehow, and since then it kept working (but i stopped using sleep mode/hibernation all together, i just leave the pc on during the day and shut it down completely during the night) until today, where i turned my pc on like normal and it gave the same issue again. I'm currently with my rx580 again (which again worked right away) so i'm asking if i should rma this shit or try something else. What gets me is that the issue is specifically down to booting, once it boots up then it works as it should, tried benchmarks and just normal ass games and it works without fail, no crashes or artifacts or idk driver timeouts or anything (i also tried the rx580, that one too works as expected), but if it fails to boot then it will just refuse to work, again as if it's not even plugged in even after multiple power cycles.

tldr GPU refuses to work sometimes, Wat do?

>>106236227
shit psu

>>106236227
try updating mobo bios
remove old drivers and reinstall gpu drivers
plug gpu to different slot

>>106236227
display driver uninstaller and then re-install the drivers. I had an issue with my 3080 in which my computer was frequently not going to sleep and had to use DDU to remove the drivers and do a clean install. Could help you.

>>106236212
Lian Li A4 H2O

>>106236227
rma, pray they replace it with 9060

>>106236242
thought that too (or more specifically its cables acting up), but wouldn't that also affect performance when it does works?

>>106236279
>try updating mobo bios
already did, also tried resetting the bios a few times

>remove old drivers and reinstall gpu drivers
did that too, multiple times in a row even

>plug gpu to different slot
didn't try that but my mobo (rog b550-f) has another slot which apparently shuts down the other pcie slots to work or something? Didn't want to fuck up shit more than it already is, plus again the 580 works just fine (seemingly) on the same slot

>>106236305
ye did that, i should've mentioned that when i don't get a video out i don't get a video out at all, the gpu just doesn't post. So no bios, no safe mode, no anything, i can still access the normal boot via my laptop with parsec and/or steam link, aka virtual display drivers

>>106236227
do you have ups? try hooking up directly to the socket

>>106234880
The 880 is too expensive. The 870 is 1/4 of the price which is why I was considering it. I need to repaste my 750 anyway so thought it might be worth swapping it out.

>>106236227
I just skimmed your post because you didn't bother with the enter key, but I've kind of casually noticed that the 6700/xt/50xt are kind of prone to burning up. Not built to last or pushed too hard by default or something.
Is it just restarting? What happens exactly? If it's just a restart/shutdown with nothing else probably psu, black screen with fans going crazy = driver issue or degraded core/memory probably maybe, just black screen = nearly dead card or something totally unrelated like a weird pcie slot issue.

>>106236387
so it might require repasting, underclocking?

Help an idiot with 0 pc knowledge here: a guy is selling a Dell Optiplex 3000 SFF, with Intel i3 (12th gen) - 16 gb ram/500 gb ssd . For 280 EUR. Is this a good pc to use for photography related stuff?

>>106236387
>What happens exactly?
sometimes when i boot the pc up the gpu just doesn't work, as far as the rest of my pc is concerned the gpu is basically not even plugged in, even if i powercycle and whatnot multiple times. When i try another gpu (rx580) that one works just fine, and last time i tried switching the 6700xt then started working again after like a day of not being used, and kept working for a little over a week (until today)


>you didn't bother with the enter key
i got burned out by people going "muh reddit spacing!!" so now i just do that instead. Yes, i'm very dumb as you might have noticed

New AGESA

What do you look for when buying a mobo? what justifies saving the cost vs spending a bit more for features

>>106236486
#1 it cant be asus
#2 it should have the features I want
#3 it cant be overly expensive
#4 maybe check out some mobo tier list and see that its not some shit tier

>>106232425 (OP)
My parts came back from shop. Electro static bags are missing. They just came back in bubble wrap.

>>106236502
what’s considered expensive for a board? there’s such a considerable range in prices

>>106236538
if they're like clearly above 200€ they prob focus on features I dont need, like multiple nvme lanes or fancy board color scheme
if some cheaper board fits the criteria you just buy that over the more expensive ones
youtube reviews exist and may tell if that particular model is shitt somehow

buyed 1tib nvme with dram back in 2024 for $45

1tib nvme now $80

>>106236440
Try just pushing only the front in so it's running in x4, or a different slot.

>>106233103
But I love my https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00L7UZMAK

>>106232425 (OP)
It's beautiful...

>>106236765
wow they invented gpu coolers with the color of poo

>>106236779
Color aside, the shape and geometry of the cooler is very nice. Unique and not boring like most other cards are

Novideo driver status?

>>106236765
i hate big gross frames on gpus
i want something sleek with fans as big as possible

>7500f vs 9600X?
1/3rds~ price difference in local dollars 6.500 TRY to 9.400TRY
Should I buy a proper b650(MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WIFI) or a B650-R(Asus Prime B650M-R) with a SATA expansion card for my HDDs?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kQ26t3

Dream builds are always fun. This is probably my favorite ever.

It's weird but my gpu makes coil whine when I enable HDR in Windows. It's very subtle but it goes away when disabled.

>>106235033
Lmaooo the cope of the rednecks

>>106236989
>MiLD
Stopped reading there.

>>106236440
A single enter is not not reddit spacing.

>>106237079
7500f.
MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WIFI.
>SATA expansion card for my HDDs?
How many do you have?

>>106233295
why is it so warm????

>>106235816
you cant, not permanently

>>106236201
After spending the whole day researching I kinda lost the will to buy for today.
I will either buy G402 for the cheapest route.
Or there is someone selling Razer Basilisk V3 Pro on the second hand market (I have a brief refund window if it turns out to be shit), thrice the price of G402 (normally four and half times as expensive) but it has everything I want bar the size and weight.
Or maybe I will just keep rocking my half broken mouse I dunno.

>>106237255
The "C"(arbon) drive is literally global warming itself

Tell me why I shouldnt buy the 870e carbon wifi mobo.
im aware of the lane sharing for m2/pcie5 but it’s a non issue for me

>>106236440
lmao you got bullied into changing your writing style by internet losers
thats pathetic

>>106232425 (OP)
less volts == more amps!

>>106237255
I'm actually not sure, that drive wouldn't have really been used as it still has my old os install on it if I need something that I forgot about. Both are sandwiched between thermal pads provided by the motherboard. Fans running at about 30% most of time. Idk, maybe I'm retarded.

>>106233103
Reckon I didn't use a big enough slab of thermal padding?

>>106237553
what’s that red thang

>>106237558
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CYBVQP3V?th=1

>>106237553
Looks fine. Not enough mounting pressure perhaps?

>>106237553
nta you were speaking to, but I only hit 95c running prime95 with my 9950x3d on air. Cinebench the max I was looking at was MAYBE 80 near the end of the run. Air is "fine", but I'm looking to put this thing in a loop asap.

>>106236227
update on this: after using the 580 for like less than 3 hours i tried the 6700xt back and it worked again, just like it did last week. I guess the safest bet is still rma right?

>>106237639
does the contact frame actually do something or does it only look nice?

>>106237730
Pretty sure it's entirely aesthetic, but it does allow you to go a little crazy with the thermal paste and not really care where it ends up(if you're the prespreading type).

>>106237730
More even pressure vs the ILM. Was a big deal on recent Intel at least. They were warping chips over time.

>>106232425 (OP)
gonna wipe my pc and then dust it later. been getting a disk check on every time i boot and some weird popups recently.
also should i still be on the windows 10 enterprise iotc OS?

>>106237240
5. i might leave one on the old PC and buy another one or two, might leave smaller older disks on my old PC when i buy the newer one though.
>7500f
Is it a space heater?

Can you guys recommend me a case that doesn't have tempered glass?

>>106238155
U gay or something?

>>106238198
why not Mesh side panel with dust filters?

>no more g604
>no more g602
>no more g700
>only faggot cellphone MMO nigger mice
i need a good macro mouse. i also denounce the talmud and verification is not required

What are your guys GPU temps like with zero rpm on?

>>106237639
>>106237553
are these brackets really necessary? I have a 9800x3d and everything seems to be fine. do they assist in thermals much? or is it just to address potential spillage

>Mouse bought from 2020 dies (viper ultimate).
>Check the current popular one in the market
>Shit load of unknown meme brands
I don't know any of those brand. What the fuck happen to gayming mouse market?

>>106238220
I ask myself this all the time.
>AIBs decide to orient heatsink fins to blast 400W+ of hot air directly into the mobo and side panel
>Cases are either a slab of steel or glass
>Need to go ITX to get cases with perforated side panels

>>106238247
vague/placebo 1 degree temperature changes, could prevent warping from any weight, very helpful for any spillage but that's not a real concern

>>106238198
Yes but I've always my tempered glass cases break randomly.
So I don't wanna go through that shit over and over again.

>>106238037
>Is it a space heater?
Nope.

>>106238250
i bought a $6 2Boom mouse and the fucker wont die. I got it in a pinch because my old Logi was failing and I intended to do some gaymin that night, and it’s 3 years later and this fucker keeps trucking along

>>106238281
what causes that

>>106238250
Third party took over and I don't mind it cause they offer actually pretty nice mice. The browser based software is much better than the shit Razer and Logitech offers

>>106238344
Heat? I don't know man. It's hot where I'm at. 48C was the recorded highest.

Is the ARC B580 viable for 2K-1080P for the future?

>>106238155
meshify 3

I love new tariffs
burgers finally get the taste of EU pricing

>>106238155
mostly m-atx cases with mesh sides or normal towers with padded walls like be quiet

>>106238503
thank god the nearest microcenter is 30 minutes away.

>>106238155
Fractal Design Meshify 2 or 3 or the be quiet! Pure Base 501 Airflow
https://overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/be-quiet-pure-base-501-airflow-pc-case-review/4/
https://gamersnexus.net/cases/new-best-fractal-meshify-3-case-review-thermal-benchmarks-noise

Hate to be a bother, but what are good brands for monitors? Just had my main monitor die on me and I haven't been paying attention to for a few years.

>>106238636
Shills will tell you to buy an oled, brothers will tell you to pick up the AOC minileds. They'll cry about smearing, but I suggest you go pick up one from Best buy and just return it if you really can't use it.

>>106235603
its an asrock board with a dedicated m2 e key slot for wifi cards so I'm gonna just get a cheap ax210 to start off with and see how it works out

>>106238676
Thanks. I was just worried because the dead one is only three years old.

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>>106238676
>oled
Speaking of oled and burn in concerns, don't they have NUC style tech at this point to prevent that type of thing from happening? It's essentially a refresh done on the device to prevent damage/issues.
https://www.flir.com/discover/professional-tools/what-is-a-non-uniformity-correction-nuc/

>>106238636
I'm curious too. That said my old acer monitor still 'works' but it takes time to boot up and it's got a blue tint.

>>106238836
Forgot to write, what do I even do with it since I doubt anyone would want to buy it.

>>106238852
the best option rn is buying a 360hz qd oled
they hover around 600-700€

or check out the ktc miniled

>>106238716
Even better.

AMD stinky linkies!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jHQLRV
Anything wrong with this build I'm thinking of? Would cost around 1860€, 2170usd, in Finland.
Upgrading from a 2060s, AMD Ryzen 5 3600x build which I could probably sell for a couple hundred € while I keep the 2 SSDs in it.

Is that whole 9800X3D Asrock drama even real? 99% of it is from a single Asrock leddit. You would think those massive chink forums full of people with direct links to AIBs and such or thousands of customers reviews all over the internet would mention it. But there is nothing and every article talking about it links to that one place.

Looks to me like usual 1-2% failure rate that's always happening but for some reason it became a meme.

>>106239138
Nothing seems off to me from a quick glance.
>>106239278
Was it just not some retard ledditor putting it incorrectly?
I remember it to be pure user error.

>>106239310
There are 100+ reports but some of them are shit like people running scalar x10 or obviously lying. You also have morons claiming that CPUs don't die on MSI or Gigabyte boards.

>>106239278
It's not even relevant anymore because the BIOS was removed ages ago. You cannot download it. New AMD Agesa dropped just days ago nigga.

>>106238811
the refresh just dims all the pixels down to the brightness level that the damaged pixels can tolerate

burn in on oleds is unavoidable, each pixel has a fixed lifespan

all they can do is try to make the panels more efficient so the pixels dont need to be driven as hard

>>106233069
>G502X
how in the god damned fuck did they manage to fuck it up when they had the perfect opportunity to make something great?
everybody is fucking asking for a magnetic scroll wheel on 502, it even looks like it, yet it isn't. I've been waiting for years. fuckign retards

>>106239352
I don't think I can justify getting a monitor which is guaranteed to burn in.

>>106239382
a relatively easy fix is just buy a 1k € 55" qd oled tv and use that for anime, games and use lcd monitor for monitor stuff

>>106239138
why get full tower

>>106239460
>55 inch qd oled tv
I'm trying to figure out how to squeeze in a 32 inch to replace my 27. 55 isn't happening lol

>>106239477
youd just have the tv on its own stand

>>106239347
Supposedly it was happening on multiple BIOS versions.

I randomly get these short but extremely annoying 100% usage spikes out of nowhere that completely lock up whatever the HDD is doing, it happens to both of my HDDs separately. Would anyone have any idea what could be causing this? I disabled sysmain to try and see if it helps but it didn't. It has been happening ever since I built this brand new pc some months ago.

I can't do 27 inch monitors, theyre simply too big for me
are there ANY 24 inch, 1440p 240hz monitors at all? I feel like it simply doesn't exist and never will.

>>106233631
Very helpful, thanks

>>106239677
oh yeah, and IPS too
I have an xg2431 and I love it and the only requirement out of those it doesn't meet is 1440p

>>106239677
buy a bigger desk
move monitor a bit further away from your face

???

>>106239675
defrag, indexing, virus scan are all possibilities
maybe check resource monitor for what process has disk activity

>>106239677
For me I have issues with scaling on those. At 100% the text looks small and if I increase it looks lower quality. Works without issue on 1080p 24

>>106239708
Ive owned one before and my desk is big enough but its just too much for me
I'm a small person alright? My hands are small too and its why I use tiny mice and a tiny keyboard

Pulling the buy trigger on Saturday but the 9950X3D isn't in stock

>>106239764
I'm getting kind of nervous.

>>106239764
for how long do you plan on using it?

>>106239780
Idk this one lasted me 5 years so probably that long unless there's exponential performance increases.

>>106239761
oh you're like a midge
you can always commit suicide as using normal people things is too bothersome and your offspring are likely to be dysgenic too

>>106239799
yeah that's a healthy amount of time

>>106239677
have you actually seen 27' monitors in person?

>>106233012
I assume it's cheaper get a used 4090 and have some dude in a street stall with a hair dryer make it a 48GB card.

>>106238238
idle temps? very low

>>106238503
hasn’t affected me yet

>>106232425 (OP)
I'm waiting for the RTX 6090,

>Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
but how much noise do they make?

RAM on AM5
correct me if I'm wrong
2x24 or 2x48 are better (faster, more stable) than 2x32 or 2x64, but 2x8 or 2x16 are the fastest and most stable
6000mhz is most stable... so why do AM5 boards support up to 8200? it's easier to get better timings on a higher binned kit ie if I get a 8200 kit and set it to 6000 it'll be easier to get tighter timings ie 30-30-30-30
2x? is better than 4x? every time
teamgroup dark was very good for AM4 idk what to get for AM5 was thinking teamgroup again or hynix

>>106235603
>mfw my x870 tomahawk has a pcie slot removed from the rear of the mobo, so if i ever needed a wifi/extra ethernet cable socket due to mobo socket/wifi failure, i'd have to frankenstein the setup into working because i couldnt use the rear panel correctly.

weird design.

>>106239044
The best part about this image is the AMD schizo can't make one in retort as his shitty AMD card can't run any local image diffusion lmao

>>106235730
>The idea that I cant buy two sticks now and pop in another two when ram prices drop is just completely unacceptable.
that has literally always been a retarded idea that introduces instability to the pc, you're a moron for even suggesting it. No ddr system has ever fully supported this, nor has any ram manufacturer ever recommended it, EVER.

You want a 4 stick setup? BUY a 4stick setup designed for it. Retard.

>>106235856
carpet always winds up looking ugly, no idea why anyone puts up with carpet in this day and age, you get vinyl paneling and buy a new rug every few years.

>>106239044
that green glow means its been infected with Njudaism. No wonder she was horrified.

>>106239138
aside from the weird tower choice, and the weak cpu, its perfectly fine for now. Also your ram capacity is somewhat low, 48/64gigs is the new benchmark for long-session usage without needing to restart the pc.

>>106235730
if you are fine with using like decade old hardware, then going 4 sticks doesn't matter either

What does /pcbg/ think about the Be Quiet Light Base 600?

>>106232425 (OP)
Yeah see
And as a Blender user, no way in hell am I getting a 90 class, let alone this particular grenade
Next upgrade will be the 5080 super and that's it

>>106239675
>he still uses physical discs
hows it feel being poor and brown? lmao. A NEW pc with physical hdds? kek

>>106239734
KEK, you're like a 30 y/o man who still buys 20+ mcnuggets multiple times a week because your tastebuds havent changed since you were 7.

Not for people who fell for the radeon meme

>>106239780
nta, but its 100% the kind of cpu you buy with full intentions to use it for a LONG time.

>>106240334
its a great case if you want to lay it flat, otherwise there's a heap of better options out there. Its very flexible, which might suit your needs.

youtu.be/88tomTgkYCA?si=IDD8tYaN4q5ovHl3

>>106240334
I'm tired of fishtanks but their air coolers, psu's, and case fans are fire
Classy as all hell when done right

>>106240376
yes, its a propaganda video for the goyim who fell for the memetracing scam-tech instead.

How far the once-mighty ID have fallen for jewish tricks, a shame.

>>106240334
I truly believe that a solid panel option would have been huge. I keep joking that I should buy a light base and just ask a shop near me to make me one. The best underdesk lighting AND heated footrest. I'm not interested in it with the glass.

>>106240334
I want to set my case horizontally so I'm thinking about getting 600dx, but I'm also considering 900dx because I can get 140mm fans then, and the price difference is only like 25 bucks, full fans/aio included.

Speaking of, are there any rankings for EATX AM5 motherboards? If I go with 900dx, I thought I might as well.

Nvidiots getting snappy rn

Reminder that the worlds most powerful computer is all AMD

>>106240779
explain how this is relevant to the average consumer

>>106240805
Most powerful PC is all AMD
Therefore all AMD is superior simple as

>>106240815
how is a supercomputer a pc

>>106240779
if it doesn't play video games i dont care

>>106240840
I bet someone ran doom on it

>>106240827
amd cpu+amd gpu+linux = gaming pc/server

>>106232425 (OP)
Nvidia driver causing CPU spikes again...

>>106241229
What isn't causing CPU spikes these days?

Best ATX case that is not fucking glass

>>106241301
Fractal North (with the mesh instead of glass side panel)

>>106241301
>>106241368
This looks promising.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2z656TwOHs
https://videocardz.com/newz/radeon-rx-9060-non-xt-tested-19-faster-than-rtx-5050-almost-on-par-with-rtx-5060
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-9060.c4326
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5060.c4219
So the just released (and currently OEM-only) RX 9060 Non-XT is slightly slower than a 5060 despite being both a bigger and denser die (199 mm^2 w/29.7M transistors vs. 181 mm^2 w/21.9M trasistors). I can see why AMD won't release the card for the wider DIY market as it seems like they'd be either unwilling or outright unable to price it at a level to be the better buy in the segment of the market where value is the most important (not to mention AMD won't into volume GPU production to save their lives).

>>106241294
good point. software isn't catching up with the hardware.

>>106241301
open frame wrapped in dust mesh

https://www.techpowerup.com/339857/samsung-plans-z-nand-comeback-15x-faster-and-80-more-efficient-than-regular-nand#comments
Optane, is that you?

>>106241826
iirc solidigm does optane like ssds but those are for datacenters instead of consumers.

When does new stuff to consoom come out?

>>106242187
new hardware isnt out until 2027-2028

I'm still on a 5950x
when is am5 predicted to reach end of service? I'm looking to upgrade whenever AM6 comes around, and maybe if I'm lucky intel will be decent again so I can actually have a choice

I want high refresh rate TN but I don't want 1080p.
what do I do?

>>106242391
why TN if you don't mind me asking? IPS panels can put out the same response times these days and new TN stuff is increasingly rare
anyway, do a direct search on amazon. there are a lot of weird chinese brands that sell high refresh monitors with weird combinations of specs so you might actually find one that's TN

Finally thinking about upgrading since 2019. What websites should I used to compare parts? I used to use userbenchmark but apparently that guy is an intel shill?

>>106242391
>tn
why

>>106242462
ub was always embarrassing
watch benchmarks in reviews of particular cpu/gpu you are interested in

what's your budget?

>>106242443
>>106242487
I care more about motion blur than viewing angles. I'm the only person that needs to view the monitor.

>>106242462
better to just look at what's available in your budget, and post 2-3 picks within that budget here for us to bully you into the right decision.

>>106236765
Instead of 3 single fans, they should use just one oblong oval-shaped fan.

>>106242509
as someone who was the biggest TN apologist prior to getting a modern IPS panel I can tell you with confidence that I have never experienced motion blur
motion blur is a product of response time and PLENTY of IPS panels these days can do true 1ms and 2ms response times so it really shouldn't be an issue man
also its not just viewing angles but color too. even when you adjust these newer IPS panels to settings where they get true 1ms response time, the color is still a lot better than most if not all TN panels
but again if you're hellbent on TN then search through amazon, plenty of weird brands on there that won't show up on pcpartpicker

>>106242564
my load temps are you idle temps anon!

>>106242564
my fan on idle temps are 55c lol

>>106242554
I have an IPS now, and I want to go back.

>>106242579
My tiny warm case makes everything gay.

>>106242611
well best of luck then

What temperature should my pc be at idle and under load?

>>106242679
idk maybe you know of a good channel that is autistic about displays that I can watch?

>>106242509
>>106242611
One of the new 1440p 500 Hz OLEDs (MSI MAG 272QP X50 or the Samsung Odyssey OLED G6) is gonna give you the least motion blur above 1080p because of the 0 ms response times. It'll be equivalent to a 750hz non-strobed LCD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIFPzQ5L-ZM&t=463s

>>106242680
idle ~30-50
load ~70-90

>>106242712
not buying oled. but on the topic of blurbusters, what am I supposed to do from that website?

>>106242742
>not buying oled.
You REALLY should reconsider it, if you're serious about motion performance as the ~0ms response times coupled with the lack of any pixel overshoot will result in each new drawn frame fully transitioning over from the previous one in a given refresh cycle window faster with no settling time and therefore resolving to cleaner apparent motion with less blur than almost any e-sports TN panel (most all of which are only 1080p). See picrel.
Moreover, because of the effective instant response times you can then use CRT Beam Simulation shaders to force a refresh of the image to further retina persistence of modern sample-and-hold displays which is not something most LCDs can accomplish.
https://blurbusters.com/crt-simulation-in-a-gpu-shader-looks-better-than-bfi/

You already have an IPS LCD so just run it as your primary desktop/browsing display and then switch over to your OLED for gaming/video in a dual setup if burn-in worries you (easy 8-10 years of lifespan that way). Plus there's the advantage of perfect colors/contrast which TNs are notoriously poor at it.

>but on the topic of blurbusters, what am I supposed to do from that website?
Read in-depth articles on monitor motion and new technologies to improve it? Also use the UFO Test to check your displays real motion performance (there are many test parameter options available in the top menu scrollbar and make sure you close all other apps beside the browser to prevent errant latency from causing window sync glitches with your display's native refresh rate).
https://www.testufo.com/

>>106238238
30 to 50C
rtx3090 strix

Is the 9800X3D worth it over the 7800X3D?
I mainly play video games in 1080p (I have bad eyesight and it looks perfectly good for me), I also play a lot with AI, both Stable Diffusion and local Local Language Models (Sillytavern) which is pushing out my hardware requirements.

This is what I'm planning to get, does it look good? I absolutely need this much RAM and VRAM for DCS World and AI.
Also, I'm completely and utterly clueless about motherboards. I just buy something relatively cheap but not the cheapest.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.70GHz
ASUS TUF GAMING A620M-PLUS
KINGSTON FURY 64GB Beast EXPO DDR5 6000MHz CL30 KIT
ASUS DUAL-RTX5060TI-O16G Dual OC GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16GB GDDR7
DEEPCOOL PF750 750W

Reusing SSD, HDD, etc. from old PC.

hell yeah /pcbg/, just finished my new build.
I can't believe I waited this long it feels so snappy

>>106242951
>9800X3D + GTX 1060
Ehhhhhhhhhhh as long as you're happy.

>>106242950
It's a good 10% upgrade on the cpu depending on the task.
I'd recommend at least a b650 or b850 motherboard with wifi. Going cheap on a motherboard isn't a great move, especially with a higher end cpu and ram.

64gb is a lot of ram and might not be entirely necessary unless you do a looot of non gaming productivity stuff but if you want it get it.

Graphics card is fine but you can always consider a used card if you can find a better one around the same price.

I'd definitely get a different psu because that one has enough watts but isn't great quality and you also don't wanna buy a bad psu. You can look up "psu tier list" online and it has a bunch and their general rating. Aim for at least a B tier one and tailor the rest to your budget, 750 watts is plenty.

A quality motherboard usually comes with multiple ssd slots so you can always upgrade storage later by just getting another ssd if you need more space.

In short, get another psu and motherboard. It should work fine for your purposes

>>106242951
>9800x3d
>GTX 1060
Holy fucking based

>>106242655
I'm just shitposting, I have a custom loop with lots of rads. I like tiny cases!

>>106242313
Two more years.

>>106232574
nice job bro hope it passed the first post

>>106243087
unironically

>>106242950
You'll get better overall performance, even at 1080p, with a cheaper less powerful CPU + beefier GPU combo.
I'd actually recommend a cheap 14600K-based system as it's 87% the performance of the 9800X3D for only 41% of the price.
Plus the old LGA1700 platform will let you use still-pretty-fast-but-cheap DDR4 ram which adds up in savings since you want 64GB for AI.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/18.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/galax-geforce-rtx-5070-ex-oc/30.html
Then you can take some of savings and grab a 5070 or RX 9070 for higher FPS than the 5060 Ti.
Potential PCPP List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mPFxJn

think the 5000 series will be worth a shit with supers or should I just keep waiting? on a 3080 and it's starting to struggle with streaming to my shield

i have a 3070ti is there any reason to upgrade

>>106243163
no? are you insane.
unless you want oonga boonga ray tracing for no reason at all.
if you feel like you are having performance issues I would look at upgrading your CPU first.

>mfw 64GB Ram kit I bought for $210 at the end of last year is now selling for $320
Is it the tariffs causing this or something else?

>>106243125
Thanks, but I'm not sure about dropping down to DDR4 RAM. Sounds like not very future proof.

Also I want a 16 GB card for AI. Honestly I wanted a 24GB but then I saw the prices. Any tips on how much $$$ the 5070 Super 24GB versions will be?

Currently working on building a PC and I need some advice. I have a 9700X and an MSI B650 Tomahawk, and now I'm looking at options for the RAM. Would it be better to just go for overall compatibility with 6000 CL30 RAM, or would 6400 CL32 be fine? From the MSI QVL it says it supports 6400 CL32 RAM by a manufacturer I'm looking at, but I don't know if I should just go for the 6000 as it's pretty much standard and would 'just work'. Sometimes the 6400 is a little bit cheaper here, but it's not much good if it won't work, obviously.

>>106243199
its highly recommended to go with 6000 cl30 ram for ryzen

>>106243163
Yes? Are you sane?
Unless you want to torture yourself with low settings just so you can spend less money on your sole hobby.
If you feel like you are having performance issues I would look at upgrading what you can afford to upgrade.

>>106243197
>Thanks, but I'm not sure about dropping down to DDR4 RAM. Sounds like not very future proof.
It literally doesn't matter. DDR4-3200CL16 has the same effective first-word latency as DDR5-6000CL30.
You can see for yourself: https://notkyon.moe/ram-latency2.htm
Memory performance in client systems only matters when you plain run out of it and start having to page to the system drive.

>Also I want a 16 GB card for AI. Honestly I wanted a 24GB but then I saw the prices. Any tips on how much $$$ the 5070 Super 24GB versions will be?
You could spring for the RX 9070 16GB over the 5070 for only an extra $70 then:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KXkqqs/asrock-challenger-radeon-rx-9070-16-gb-video-card-rx9070-cl-16g
>Any tips on how much $$$ the 5070 Super 24GB versions will be?
No one knows yet, but I'd wager maybe a $50-100 premium over the vanilla 5070 since they are adding extra CUDA cores to it so ~$600?
Also the 5070 Super will only be 18GB, it's the RTX 5070 Ti & 5080 SUPERs that will get 24GB.

>>106243199
>Would it be better to just go for overall compatibility with 6000 CL30 RAM, or would 6400 CL32 be fine?
Whichever kit is cheaper. 6400CL32 stuff is basically identical to 6000CL30 and will run at the "slower" ratio just fine if the default advertised speeds give your mobo any trouble.

>>106242905
how do I interpret the test, if it looks blurry in motion then it means monitor is bad?
the motion blur and the ghosting tests?

How do we feel about products made by Koorui?

What do you guys do with your old pc once you upgraded? This is my current PC. One option would be keep the case and put all my new parts in it but then I'm left with just left over parts. Or buy a new case and then sell my current pc whole? I doubt I could get $1k (AUD) for it

>>106243283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA96IuYfkBI
https://www.mobilepixels.us/blogs/blog/how-to-read-ufo-test-results

>>106243291
Pretty good. In the same realm as KTC, another Chinese OEM that takes panels and is selling them at lower margins than the bigger brands.

>>106243186
>>106243245
i thought i needed more ram so i got 128gb but games still play like shit on medium or higher

why cant devs just optimize their games it's not like they look that much better now than they did 5 years ago

I plan to build a micro ITX Steam machine used to play only older games + indies that are low poly/pixel/etc.
good idea or no

basically any cool cases I should check out?

>>106243365
I'm not trolling, you might have a CPU bottleneck. Is it an older CPU? A 3070ti is a perfectly fine card today.
also 128bg of RAM will not fix your problems. you should only be using dual channel ram for gaming. if you have all 4 channels filled up with 128 fucking gb then you are bottlenecking yourself there as well.

>>106243323
It depends entirely on whether you can make any use of the remaining parts or not. A new case isn't much in the grand scheme and you might want to get one anyway for a front USB-C port. And that's an R5 hotbox, will your planned new parts want more fresh air than your current?

Selling it is the default simply because it has a universal upside (money). The other for personal use is a backup PC, and/or as a NAS.

>>106243386
i have to deal with adobeshit and too many browser tabs for work

>>106243365
bruh, you could have easily found out whether the gpu is the bottleneck by using a performance overlay like nvidia app's, capframex or msi afterburner and seeing whether your gpu is at 96-100% utilization

Should i buy Intel Graphics? 2K 165Hz Monitor. Thinking of B580 or paypigging later for RX 9060 XT, which one should i pick?

>>106242905
There's more to motion clarity than pixel response time: https://youtu.be/O4SFsKPrhoY?feature=shared

>>106243462
just get the amd card. it just works. intel dies the minute it has to do anything thats not dx12/vulkan.

>>106243436
Your system really isn't a slouch. What exactly do you mean by "play like shit". What are your framerate standards, or what specific kind of issue are you facing when in a variety of games? If anything it'd be very easy to blame your memory setup which is necessary for work but perhaps is not working stably for games.

How important is VRM?
I found a mobo for my exact needs but it's 7+2+1.
Running a 9800x3d.

>>106243497
I just want 80+ fps, I'll even play on low to get it
seems impossible on any new game

>>106243498
it matters for high core count cpus. for 8 cores, not so much.

>>106243370
It is never a good idea to plan to only play older games and indieslop because sooner or later you'll want to branch out and realize you just can't. On the other hand the only way you can do that nowadays is to purposely buy old equipment to arbitrarily limit yourself. A 5050 is as low as it gets for today's market and it will still always be able to run newer games even if imperfectly and at lowered settings.

ITXes are more expensive than mATXes due to their relative low demand. Don't turboskimp on the other parts just to fit its image of being a small case PC.

>>106243522
Then that can't be right. The 3070 Ti is upper class and with DLSS should not have issue reaching 80+ when you lower settings as much as possible. Using 4k monitor and resolution? Still even so there must be some other issue, not every modern game is demanding. Drivers up to date?

>>106243554
1440p only
drivers are always up to date

>>106243554
>>106243522
D'oh, I just checked. The 3070 Ti is an 8GB card, that really does explain it. Could be is hitting the limits even on lower settings and that is when it will start to sputter out.

>>106243339
ok I watched this video of his too... https://youtu.be/lQqy4WPOIYE
I'm more confused now? but the way he's explaining it, it's going to look blurry unless you match it to your monitor's refresh rate?
so what's the point of the test? do the good monitors maintain clarity when it's moving at a velocity faster than your fps?

>>106243560
Sorry, you literally got the short end of the stick. This upper class card is theoretically almost as strong as a 5060 Ti 16GB and yet its hampered by half the memory. My advice? Yeah if you want great perf you will want to upgrade, but wait for the 5070 Super by the end of this year or early next year. The base 5070 12GB is +35% horsepower over what you have, while the expected 5070 Super 18GB will be more, plus enough VRAM that you WILL NOT go through this exact same problem ever again for many years.

>>106243194
> $210
I was lucky to get 64GB CL28 for 230 in early June. Only shortly later the price exploded.

>>106243436
upgrade your mobo.
your lanes are being split

Do you guys actually make your cables look neat inside your mini builds?

>>106243538
I already have a very capable PC, but I have some spare parts I want to reuse instead of just taking to the landfill.

>>106242951
> Windows 11
> TPM activated
Bloody noob

>>106243817
Is it not reporting that it is running at the full x16?

>>106243820
Oh sure then just make use of the iGPU. Could skip a dGPU entirely, then use an air cooler in the big open space remaining.

>>106243818
Its a common habit to pick up so yeah.

>mini builds
With those tiny builds I wouldn't know where to begin.

>>106243818
I would be even more precise with my cable management as to not restrict airflow.

>>106241706
Disproportionate effort for mediocre effect. Looks as stupid as it is.

>>106243856
>>106243865
it's just a torrent server so it's a single 140mm 30mm rad but I liked the small case :3

>>106243817
>>106243827
Z790 can run full PCIe v5.0 as long as you don't put an SSD in the same PCIe slot.

>>106243840
>iGPU
I have a 3770k cpu just sitting around but also a 1060 micro. I was hoping to make my own Nvidia Shield type device that loads Steam OS and plays some older titles + indie slop. not sure what psu to use tho

>>106241301
Wood Edition Metal Panel. Most anons here are poorfags that bitch and whine about prices. Sorry if you are poor but you asked for the best.

>>106243917
it's a nice case but I rather wait for the wood front panels that the 4000d frame is coming out with later this year.
Who gives a fuck about aesthetics if you build a PC to stare at it or post pics of it for clout then you are fucking retarded
the last sentence doesnt apply to you specifically just sayin

I miss this nigga like you wouldnt believe
>t. just bought a bunch of his now "retro" hardware / accessories on ebay

Whatever happened to those .5 drives and storages? I remember seeing those some years ago and then one day they just sort of vanished off the market. I think they were like 1.2TB, 1.5TB, 2.5TB, etc.

>>106243597
>so what's the point of the test? do the good monitors maintain clarity when it's moving at a velocity faster than your fps?
Yes. The ideal monitor is one that can resolve motion without trailing artifacts from overshoot or smearing from pixels that don't transition from one color to another instantly regardless of how fast the content being rendered on-screen is changing. The issue is the faster the pixel needs to change the greater the penalty for slow response times of LCDs gets hit by.

>>106243463
I am aware of what DyAC can do, but it still has some issues with cross-talk at the top/bottom of the panel not updating at the same time as the middle portion because screens refresh in pieces at a time (from top to bottom, and left to right). Also you'll still have overshoot because of how hard the overdrive of these TNs are being pushed. Also image duplication on occasion. CRT Shader-based frame interception or full-field BFI of OLED is the better option.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/benq/zowie-xl2546x#test_4262
Even the XL2586X+ is gonna have to kneel against LG's 720Hz OLED when it comes out:
https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/monitors/lg-display-unveils-worlds-fastest-oled-monitor-get-ready-for-720hz

https://youtu.be/wcLD5ans57s
and this bozo is telling people to not buy 1080p. strongly endorsing oled. and considers ips to be an entry level monitor and doesn't recommend an ips over 160hz.

no wonder all these influencers keep shitting on 8gb cards. they don't want people to buy anything but enthusiast tier hardware.

>>106244023
thanks but I'm sticking with my 240hz 1440p monitor

>>106243463
that's not exactly an endorsement of TN. she talks about how she only preferred the TN panel in old esports, like CS VALORANT OW, but preferred the OLED in all her other games, like her other more casual shooters like Apex and The Finals.
also how DYAC gave her headaches after a few hours.

>>106244029
what panel?

>>106244058
>>106244058
>>106244058

>>106243985
so then all you really need, is a QDOLED, because WOLED isn't good for desktop stuff, it's meant for TV, with the black strobing effect, which is like OLED equivalent of DYAC?
it's so confusing now bros. fuck monitor shopping. I wish it was as simple as back in the day where it was just pick the refresh rate, the response time, and purchase.

>>106244063
>page 7
fuck off bro

>>106244023
>and this bozo is telling people to not buy 1080p. strongly endorsing oled. and considers ips to be an entry level monitor and doesn't recommend an ips over 160hz.
Because he's right. What makes image quality "good" to the human eye has been studied for ages by display makers and the industry and is known:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkC7rKCHFvQ
^Listen to Kevin Miller who founded the Image Science Foundation (a group that does certifications for professional calibrators) break it down from an HDTV shootout years ago:
https://imagingscience.com/about-us/

tl;dw Good image quality is derived from the sum of the following components in order of importance:
1. Contrast Ratio (included in this shadow and highlight detail), the picture must pop and if it doesn't nothing else matters which is why Torch Mode on TVs at Big Box stores exists at all
2. Color Quality (this includes both sufficient saturation and gamut which is why QD-OLED is beating WOLED's teeth in right now)
3. Color Accuracy (separate from #2 this is whether the color output matches the values of the signal is supposed to but also greyscale balance and tinting or lack thereof)
4. Resolution (both static and motion resolution)
That's right, resolution and motion performance are dead last in the order of priorities for human sight, which is why people held on to their SD CRTs & Plasmas over HDTV flatpanels for so long before OLED came on the scene, and why 4K TVs didn't wow us the way going from SD to HD TV did.

>>106244075
>so then all you really need, is a QDOLED, because WOLED isn't good for desktop stuff, it's meant for TV, with the black strobing effect, which is like OLED equivalent of DYAC?
Essentially yes. There's even work being done right now to implement Blurbuster's CRT Beam simulation shader into a general-purpose screen overlay for complete game compatibility:
https://old.reddit.com/r/MotionClarity/comments/1mlosxx/psa_shader_glass_developer_is_currently_working/

my new fans are capturing the resonance of the distant train horns, i swear to god

>>106244177
I switched from CRT to a 1080p flat panel LCD as soon as I could afford it, and had a computer that could power it. I wanted that desk space.

why do poorfags obsess over the most minute specifications of shit tier low-mid range products instead of just saving up for something that is proven to be good and of quality?

>>106244205
>I switched from CRT to a 1080p flat panel LCD as soon as I could afford it, and had a computer that could power it. I wanted that desk space.
We could have had both if we lived in the good timeline.

>>106244177
That's just pure wankery from nerds. In reality, IPS has been good enough for ages and what really wows people is a 100" screen.

>>106244215
brainrot due to weed, presumably

>>106238247
It's for tards who can't do the thermal paste application properly

>>106233425
That is correct. but even the 990 has firmware issues with drop outs, just over a month ago Samsung released an update that addresses that, which curiously enough is now gone from their website after I flashed it on two drives, I'm sure this will have no ill-effects in the future, rofl.
>*(6B2QJXD7) To address the intermittent non-recognition and blue screen issue. (Release: June 2025)
not to mention to this day I still need to disable linux powermanagement on the drives to avoid most of those dropouts, total shit.

>>106240254
>2x24 or 2x48 are better (faster, more stable) than 2x32 or 2x64,
wrong
>but 2x8 or 2x16 are the fastest and most stable
dual rank (32GB sticks) are the fastest. cl28 6000mhz kits are some of the best on AM5