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Previous: >>106220044

do you wfh guys ever jerk it on company time?

>>106234953
yeah and play video games too

i simply have NO motivation

>>106235013
Why should you? Honestly 6yoe and I realize, fuck every company. Everyone at a leadership level are fucking morons. It doesn't matter if it's a small or big company, different departments, everyone has fucking leadership who are fucking moronic dumbasses who just make their decision solely based on what google and microsoft do even when they're not even a tech company.

learn a trade

I wonder is anyone working in a job here that's actively making the world a better place? I know I'm not lol

>>106235107
So paco can steal it?

>>106235118
KEK even non-profits just skim off the top most of the time.

>>106234919 (OP)
guy kawasaki is a retarded shitlib. every single one of his life's achievements has been through nepotism. im honestly surprised he doesnt wallow in poop and bobble his head side to side.

>Interviewing for jobs
>Every single job is starting to sound like a red flag.
This sucks, even when I get a bite to leave my shit shovel of a job, everything out there sounds either the exact same shit or worse. I'd leave for the exact same shit but definitely not for worse.

>>106235118
yeah i work for the federal government

are there seriously people itt who think sysadmins arent useless mouthbreathers? just give developers a yearly budget to buy and build servers, don't involve IT at all. were the ones who built the internet in the first place I think we know a thing or two about working on a shared building network safely and securely sweaty :)

I would kill myself if I was a product manager imagine being so useless in life that your job ends up just being running standup and agile ceremonies

>>106233097
>powershell

>>106235608
a couple of weeks ago i was helping out this gen Z product manager with laptop problems. she was literally out of one of those Tik Tok memes that get posted around here sometimes. imagine having to be managed by that. codemonkeys are pathetic lmao

>>106235552
Yes do this and all the freshly unemployed sysadmins can demonstrate why your hubris was unfounded by collectively ass fucking the entire infrastructure in perpetuity. Fun all around.

>>106235743
>literally can only keep a job by holding the network hostage
If us programmers had all the admin passwords we'd have it all fixed and working forever in two days, max.

>>106235815
You'd be in tears sitting next to racks of bricks.

>programmers
>doing anything technical beyond writing shitty dysfunctional programs
if programmers were given the passwords, I'd make even more money than what I already make as a pentester

>>106235846
god i wish that were me

>office back to being cold as fuck
Welp there goes my productivity. They probably read in some gay faggot study that it’s best to keep it this way. Guess it’s YouTube and shitposting for 80% of the day! Everyone in here is wearing a fucking sweater for the most part. Fuck boomers and fuck generation X you’re all niggers I hope you fucking die.

I built my own computer and successfully deployed Arch, and configured my entire 2 acre property's network. I think I can handle some corposlop GUI for whatever dogshit they're using at my company to work the wifi.

>>106235893
>They probably read in some gay faggot study that it’s best to keep it this way.
no, keeping it a touch too cold is just the pro gamer move for public/shared spaces. it's initially refreshing to get hit with that wave of cold, and if you're a pussy who can't handle a brisk 15 degrees you can put on a sweater you dumb nigger. If it's +40 and everyone but your swarthy ass is sweating to death, they can only get so naked.

Also it makes the ladies nipples poke out.

>>106235552
Sysadmin works harder than you

>>106235935
Kill yourself winjeet no one cares how much powershit you write

>>106235962
Shut the fuck up and update my ticket

>>106235552
AWS changed the economics of it. unless you are a massive enterprise, you are better off leaving it to them.

Have you encountered any jeetisms at work lately?

>yeah I’m gonna build the entire network out, maintain it, deal with user issues and also be a code monkey at the same time
Are you 5?

>>106236016
>user issues
Maybe stop hiring retards who can't even use a computer? You should have at minimum Sec+ and CISSP to work in anything that even TOUCHES tech.

>mfw PM/BA/SysAdmin/Developer (No Code) all at once
my company doesn't want the risk of hiring a developer but honestly at this point I'm already raising my hand up to do some actual development work but I have no idea on the best practice nor how IT would even handle development. I thought we outsourced our developers only to learn that the tools they're working on are no code as well.....

Big ass company btw.

>>106236016
that sounds like me but im no code. It's even worse because I swear to god these assholes take their sweet ass time to tell me something's an issue. A process could be working for YEARS and then out of nowhere someone will be like "UHM THIS ISNT WORKING AS I EXPECTED????? THIS WORKED BEFOREEE" and I'll be like what the fuck are you on about, we haven't changed anything?

>>106236106
usually this is just that the user did something stupid and is too embarrassed to admit it

>>106236133
Never happens. Users are angels.

>>106236147
This is only true of programmers, who should have free reign on the network and also keys to all spaces(physical) in the building.

the tension between sysadmins and developers rivals that of race tensions of blacks vs asians and whites in the us. any second an ego war will pop off about who actually does or knows more.

>>106236172
even if all other things are equal, sissyadmins deal with non-technical users directly and that is worse. sissyadmins are the realer niggas at the very least

>>106236160
Ah yes, the programmer
>cd code
>cd ..
>pwd
>cd ..
>cd ..
>cd code
>cd ..
>cd ..

>>106236172
My biggest gripe is that the network guys keep spying and ratting everything in their reach.

>Normies who "learned to code" hating on skill based jobs in tech.
You will be replaced by ai because you learned how to code at school as a memorized skill, and not because you are intelligent enough to actually quickly pick skills, or as your passion.

That's quite low iq-minded and you don't pass the ai filter.

People good at tech usually have side skills like music, crafts, art. Kind of like good lawyers get linguistics degrees, but English majors aren't smart enough to pick law.

>>106234953
Sure, did it just today.

>>106235118
I do and I usually hate helping other people or basedciety but in this case even I could benefit from it in the future so it's alright.

I fucking hate testers

Dunno if they have quotas or some shit, but every day they act like there is a huge new error and dont even write repro steps so it looks our code is shit and barely works, and when you walk up to their desk to give you the repro it’s “i manually changed this file with a text editor” and “i entered devmode and changed a setting while copying a file”. Motherfuckers know that if they wrote a repro it would be a low prio ticket and not urgent
Like I got one today saying the program doesnt start after the new update, and the fucker manually deleted every file in the folder but the exe, but gave zero mention of that anywhere in the ticket - of course my boss then talks down to me for pushing broken releases

>>106236396
We test in production lmao

>>106236345
I kind of wish I did English degree into college or at least engineering or something. But all I cared about back then was gaming, a job was just a means to buy video games kek. I did the obligatory years in some easy program. Now I have to actually grind and feel silly for not making an effort earlier.

>>106236416
All the meme studies only create jobs for women or chads.

I'm amazed at how little I care. I thought I couldn't possibly care less until very recently, but today I've managed to care even less. At some point I'll end up literally not caring at all, as in, I'll lose the innate human ability to care.

>>106236446
Meh

>>106236446
You are on your way to becoming an excellent programmer saaaar

>>106235013
Sammme. Trying to get motivated to switch to another job nearby, but past year or so it's just been a drag getting motivated
Thinking of just going taking time off and going offline for a couple weeks
Break this mindset

>>106235523
2/10 bait

>>106236396
Thats honestly fucked, sorry that happens to you

>>106236282
theyre just following orders

>>106236442
>>106236416
>Not being paid by the university to study
>not getting 2-3 degrees as top graduate

>>106236396
Tbh that happens when you have employees with strict kpis. Our IT people act the same if you delay a patch for a day.
>I literally wrote that patch, why are you calling me to install it.

>>106234919 (OP)
Now that YouTube is shooting itself in the foot with this government ID verification crap. Is anyone else planning on making a competitor?

Anyone at work feeling more like a political piece? I feel like I'm constantly getting thrown shit at me and it doesn't really get redirected to the right people since they'll just assume I'll handle it or take charge of the operation. Like I feel like I'm constantly getting interrogated, audited or have to be insanely careful to what I say to external teams because they take what I say in whatever context they'd like. It's quite frustrating desu. I wish my users would work with me but it consistently feels like it's me vs them and I'm so tired of having to defend myself when they're just requesting or checking something. For example, one issue came to me and I'm like oh you should check in with X team. Then the requester was like "ok", then see writes to my boss with her boss cc'd going "I talked to anon and he said this should go to X but I really think you should be involved here." and I'm just like the fuck? This shit happens to me on a constant basis and I'm starting to really hate working with my users.

>>106236555
>I'll just market my way out of the pedo hunting grounds label in a space of hemorrhaging money to compete for shit margins.
Sounds epic.

>>106236603
You have to decide for yourself whether you can bear this kind of shit test for money or not.

>>106236651
Probably not. Gotta find roles that don't have this though. Just wondering if it's pretty common in the workplace or I just got a "lucky" job.

I think I'm genuinely disliked by everyone at work

>>106236668
All jobs are shit and are squeezed and contorted in the most insane ways. Unless you had the fortune of sliding out of a rich vagina this is the norm.

>>106236603
Yes, politicking is essential in the workplace. Communicating effectively is essential. You must stay wired with the hierarchy, stay in your lane and consult who needs to be consulted. Do not let random faggots who have zero authority or leverage twist your arm either. It’s a bit of an art tho because some people are obviously so essential and based that I will work with them a little outside the lines a bit but yeah. Idk your situation but clarification from your boss is always good because then you at least know. For me people will try to get away with shit or act uppity and you pretty much have to get the boss to ego check them.

>>106236668
You will always have office politics going on but your manager is usually supposed to shield you from them.
>>106236671
What did you do?

Will I have to deal with passive aggressive bosses forever? Why can’t people just be reasonable and nice?

>>106236671
That sucks anon. It do be like that sometimes.

>>106236691
The worst part is knowing that you would destroy their entire existence if you sniped back, but it's never worth.

>>106236671
have you tried not being indian?

>>106236688
>>106236684
My manager just bends the knee. Always. Even when I talk to him about it and go "no this is stupid", he'll always fold. It's actually infuriating.

>>106236671
I think I'm liked by my coworkers but not by the clients lmao. but that is expected for my job/role (pentester) so idgaf

>>106236737
No shit all you do is cost them money, lmao.

>>106236684
It's just more of I wish I was personally less of a political piece. If I help someone and make a one time exception, they'll open their freaking mouths and tell everyone under the sun we can do certain stuff. If I help them with a process and my VP hears of it, he'll find a way to scope creep this until kingdom come. I'm so tired of this man.... how the hell am I feeling like a politician when almost every email I write needs to get veto'd by my boss because otherwise people will use this shit against us. Actually insane.

>>106236748
I cost them less money than it would cost them if they got their clients data leaked
>falls for the FUD

I think its time to just ignore emails
If its important, there will be another email

>>106236691
Honestly my main question is how do people become like that? I have a life outside of work, so I never take shit too seriously but the way these motherfuckers act you would think work is all they have. Miserable bastards.

>>106236793
>I have a life outside of work
I don't and I still don't give a fuck.

>>106236793
You never power tripped before? I do it all the time.

>>106236793
being a middle manager means dealing with (some) people that lie and cheat and gossip, making things unnecessarily worse
it also means dealing with shit from the top so that it affects as little as possible the people doing the actual work
you can't take it too easy either, since giving a bad impression to upper management could mean canning the whole dept
it'd be much easier if you don't give a shit about people and their livelihoods

You ever noticed there's this personality characteristic, that you find p much exclusively in corpo middle management and cops, where the person is apparently immune to the smell of their own bullshit?
It's curious.

>>106236925
Narcissism isn't a bug it's a feature. To survive in that world you need to swim up stream against constant failure while surrounded by self serving retards.

>>106235980
lol
lmao

I think I got rejected for a role because I don't live in the area and would need to relocate. I fucking hate these arbitrary reasons.

I love workplace politics, I feel like a little lord or knight safeguarding my little kingdom. Everything is cosmically ordained anyways. It’s all just a game.

>>106237035
It's him! He's doing it it all GET HIM!

>>106237062
The older guys who are locked in and have been for years are so good at it too, it kinda awes me

>>106236950
how long does it take you to requisition hardware? a quarter? two? how much business are you losing while you wait on manager approvals and bids and all that other stupid bullshit imposed by the useless eaters in your company?
does your DC have the capacity?
do you trust your IT retards to 1) do anything security related correctly in the first place and 2) keep shit up to date?

>>106236688
>What did you do?
I'm just autistic and don't know how to respond in social situations

even with pulumi and helm charts k8s is fucking miserable. how can anyone enjoy doing devops?

>>106237173
ask them about whatever they are talking about. don't tell them how you would do it better. don't stare at their tits. brush your teeth. shower.

>>106237074
What's their average chess rating are they as good irl as they show it in the media? I know people like Kissinger are like gods to people like that. Le epic puppet master typeshit.

I'm actually getting comfortable with doing no work wfh. As soon as you get to the ticked off "fuck this" moment. It's so easy to just go whatever. why didn't I have this earlier? Why was I moronic and just wanted to be a wageslave? I feel fucking awake.

>>106234953
>WFH
Why stop there. I jerk it in the office toilets as well. Sometimes the material is hentai from /h/ or some nice adult /gif/s ln my phone. Sometimes I imagine plowing one of the office hotties. Just make sure your splooge flushes and your dick doesn't touch the toilet and you're fine. I do this every day, office or wfh.

>>106237253
>why didn't I have this earlier?
For me it was the fear of consequences. I know rationally nobody will care, nobody will notice. Especially since I can be in the top 10% in terms of performance while slacking my ass off. But in the back of my neurotic head was that "what if" bullshit.

>>106237269
>keeping the rhythm below the belt

>>106237202
As an actually social autist this doesn't work at work unless you have the energy to constantly mask at work. You also have to pretend to like their inane hobbies, whatever shitty AAA video game they're playing, and agree with them that communism is the answer. Never disagree with your coworkers on anything. Never tell them how to improve, you're supposed to document their mistakes and take it to your boss. Never help them with anything that isn't explicitly part of your job description.

>>106235815
No. You retards would make a barely functional minimal viable product, torpedo all security and QoL features, and then move on to another project to do the same, never looking back.

You guys are the grim reaper. Going from door to door, turning promising ideas into janky slop. Your slapjobs are the reason specialists are needed in the first place.

>>106237295
This is so cringe. I can't believe you wagie losers actually put up with this and act smug about the opportunity. What happens when you rip and tear through all the inane shit? Are you just escorted out of the building?

>>106237349
Technically I wouldn't if my Dad wasn't autistic and my grandpa wasn't subclinically autistic but they were and they hated each other so now my entire family line is disinherited from the trust and I have to work like a fucking animal among people who I despise.

anyone working in SaaS company that uses AWS? can you tell from experience how smart would it be to move away from AWS? higher ups in this company are bitching about costs

>>106237518
remind them of what it would cost them otherwise and why they switched to aws in the first place

>>106237518
tell them they're retarded because the only real competitor, azure, is way more expensive
unless you want to build everything manually on linode or something AWS is your best bet. there's a bunch of cost-saving tools in AWS too if you want to look into it
"cost/effort efficiency" is a good buzz-term I'd use because building CDNs on your own is kind of a pain

I lost my meme job lads, I'd stood my last standup

>>106237035
Office politics would be a whole lot better if you could just kill people. Maybe then they’d think twice before submitting tickets

>>106237530
>>106237595
the complain is how shit doesnt scale well enough in profits with customer increase
basically its either us finding magical ways limit AWS costs. We arent big enough and smart enough company at this stage to manage everything ourselves. No way.
We really have found way too good of a niche for better or worse and we get away with very messed up stuff

>>106237693
You can but just the one time.

>>106237739
there are options. can try terraform to tear down/spin up servers due to load, migrate things like DNS away from route53, or use cost explorer to see what you can cut back on
but if you're taking the relation between ease-of-use, cost, and scalability, AWS really is the best on the market

>>106234953
of course

>>106237693
you can probably get away with it in Africa

>>106237693
reminds me of the purge

VP has a tendency to keep dropping me into meetings on me without context. They're relevant to my work but it's quite annoying. I can't decline them but I can't help but feel I'm a little pissed off.

>>106237693
i put in tickets the second i see an issue.
if you figure out the issue before me, i'll just announce in standup that i collaboratively worked with you to debug.
if i figure out the issue, i'll close the ticket without providing you the details, and wait for you to reach out so i can announce in standup that i figured out the issue and that you are reaching out to me so I can increase the number of story points.
if neither of us figure out the issue, i'll just announce in standup that i'm blocked by your team.

How do you guys use Jira? I'm starting to re-use it after my previous boss decided to cut it out and I'm bringing it back because honestly this workplace is so fucking disorganized but I don't know the best practice in how the proper workflow works. How does your intake work?

>>106238705
Holy based

>>106238705
Maybe it should be legal to drown coworkers in the toilet.

>>106238728
i hope someone else sets the correct status
i really dont care about jira
you will get a one liner as documentation and the solution

>benefits: Unlimited paid time off
wtf does it mean? did I find a life cheat code?

>>106239291
It means you don't actually have a form of PTO for compensation, you just have an implication of free vacation days that can still be denied by your manager, and that won't be paid out to you upon leaving the company

>>106239291
>he fell for the meme
Many such cases.

>>106239291
Means you are getting fired if you try using 30 days in a year for PTO.

>>106239291
>wtf does it mean? did I find a life cheat code?
kek nobody tell him

>>106239291
try it and report back

I don't know everytime I try to look for advice online I get such conflicting answers. I feel like I'm getting fucked in the ass in my workplace but most of the advice online just goes "hurpdurp it's for ur learning!! you can LEARNNN!! you have responsibilities wow! :DD" and I'm just like holy fuck no, you can't just throw shit on me and expect me to manage everything from start to end with 0 context.

>>106239942
Yep anon time to hit the books and perform your own training. What do you think the bosses are doing? The degree/certs/bootcamps unironically were supposed to give you at minimum a vocabulary to work with. If you do not even have that then you are truly SOL since your coworkers, boss and his boss simply do not know what the fuck they are working on.

>>106240035
I just think that leadership has been PUSH PUSH PUSH but honestly with how fucked our department (we lost a LOT of good people) is, I'm just thinking - maybe it's best we pause and reevaluate? But no, all they do is just stack shit on my workload without any context and I'm constantly being blindsided. Apparently it's my fault too since I should've known better even though nobody tells me shit.
Like fuck me man, I want some direction here and nobody's giving it and if I ask for it, I become responsible for it and I'm just like what the fuck. I shoot myself if I do I shoot myself if I don't.

>>106240068
I wish this were me desu, my job is boring and everything is a process typically. I have to study in my free time to actually challenge myself for now.

>have long running distributed workers that need to stay in idle state waiting for jobs from the queue
>non-negotiable node dependencies for them
>worker cant perform jobs concurrently because the jobs are I/O based with rate limits
>test one-worker-one-pod architecture in k8s
>100-120mb ram usage cause each pod needs to have its own node instance running
>need 5000 workers idling at any time waiting for jobs so that would be 500gb of ram in that architecture
>sidecar is not possible for a variety of reasons
>only solution i can think of is putting 40-50 workers in 1 pod so they share node since that constitutes 80%+ of the overhead per pod
feel like im defeating the purpose of using k8s here but i cant come up with another solution. god i fucking hate javascript so much its unreal.

>>106240094
Let's trade. I cannot take the vagueness and constant politics anymore. I just want to grind and help automate/optimize shit.

>>106240068
This is great experience for the resume whenever you intend to update that be sure to add the new shit you learned on it. If you are asking for direction at work and get nothing then you need to atleast give them expectations upfront. Such as it takes X amount of time to get X done. There expectations need to be that it takes you 2 days to get 1 days worth of work done so you can actually handle shit if it goes south and give yourself more time. If you had more experience then it would be easy to ballpark it.

>>106240119
But it sounds like you’re in the position to establish all of it, sounds like you can just step up and shot call a bunch of shit.

>spend 2 months studying for fucking az-400
>exam day comes
>barely pass, crying for happiness and exhaustion
>go to my ms profile to get that shiny badge and update my linkedin and resume
>...
>can't find it anywhere
>maybe it takes time, I'll wait a day
>24 hours later
>no badge
>wtf
>contact support
>"sorry anon, az-400 is just ONE of TWO exams you need to earn that cert, have fun studying :)))"

>>106240170
I wonder if that makes them even more money since some people likely do not bother to get the second test done. In Comptia A+ they at least give enough material for the second test(operating systems) to justify 2 tests.

>>106240200
My company covers it but I'm NOT fucking studying a new test
I'll just put down az400, don't give a shit about the cert anymore

>>106240142
Nope, I don't have the authority too. It's up to the leadership to decide what they want but quite frankly I have no idea what they want.
>>106240129
But the problem is that every task is so vague. Like we have a project that we've been waiting on resources for ages but he's forcing us to do a lot of the PM work which makes no sense since we don't have the operational viewpoint for the other stuff and when we try to ask the team for their time to help us learn their operations, they're always too busy. I feel so mis utilized most of the time and I've had enough of this "vague ass" oh you're learning bullshit. I feel like they gave me an intern a sportscar and they're like "oh take care of it :D don't make it crash" and I'm just like...uhh do I drive it? do I leave it in the garage? do you want me to clean it? do you want me to leave it? like what the fuck do you want me to do with it??? again if I ask then it's suddenly oh add rockets to the car and I'm like bro we can't do that man. if I don't then oh no guess I forgot to maintain some engine fluid or something and now the car can't start but again how the fuck would i know

>>106240215
That is not how that works. Certs come with verification information on the certificate itself. You can however put the experience on it if you did labs related to it. Most sneak that experience in there resume for job experience or make a separate section for homelabs.

>>106240227
I passed az400 lmao, that's not a lie
don't give a shit about the cert

>>106240234
Just like CCNP employers only give a shit if you have both tests done.

>>106240170
i thought those were open note now. find practice tests online. the practice tests have the same questions.

>quickly running out of money
>desperately need a job
>big tech lets me through up until after the full loop
>still says no
>friend's dead end company has a job opening
>said he would refer but know that it's dead end
>I need the fucking money
for the love of god I need those rate cuts to be real so FAGMAN can ring me up and say I got an offer

>>106240261
yes, I did that for az-400

600 questions in the dump, out of those, I maybe found like 3 on the test, and everything else was a fucking drag and drop in correct order or the entire answer is wrong

>>106240268
Consider being some IT monkey at your local goverment job. Better experience then nothing.

Also ZERO chance of rate cuts. Deflation through rates, tariffs, job losses or any other means is not likely to happen any time soon. We are almost at the feds ideal inflation rate of 1-3%.

>>106240294
The feds target has always been 2%. and what you retards don't seem to understand is inflation has been compounding since 2020. Between 2025 and 2020 consumer prices have risen by 25%. This is not good shit. It does not sparkle joy when this orange bonobo retard is flailing the economy around to bolster his ego.

>>106240294
Wait did I kill my career by going for the local government job? I

>Intel is failing
huh explains why i couldn't get a job from them years ago and further explains why people left/laid off 5 years before that and showed up at my company. Thought it was just a market hiccup.

>>106240347
No its just that government jobs are always a backup since they barely pay shit but have decent benefits. The real hurting career part of that is dealing with old equipment.

>>106240347
Just remember to whine about how inefficient of a workplace it is when your next prospective employer asks why you left/are leaving.

I knew someone who went to work for a government agency because they wanted a less stressful working environment, and got fed up with it in months. They just didn't do any work. Everyone was just calling up contractors and consultants. Nobody did anything in-house.

>>106240544
>going from private healthcare sector to public sector was a significant pay bump
Don't work for hospital systems, friends

>job listing says it’s been up for 4 months
>I view it over the weekend
>kinda niche stack but Ive worked in it
>yeah I’ll just touch up my resume a bit, research the company and then send an application during the week
>its inactive as of 2 hours ago, just when I was about apply

what the fuck
why does a job listing even get taken down at 10pm

>>106239291
Yes, you did. Just take as much PTO as you want whenever you want and surely nothing bad will ever happen.

>>106240696
hiring manager probably just randomly remembered to take it down after theyd fill the position 3 months ago

I'm two days away from having waited for any kind of a response for a full month from two different companies.

Either HR is still on summer vacation or dropping the ball hard.

>>106240771
or you got ghosted lmao

Today with the stock market at ATHs I just hit $1M networth (not including house) at 32 years old. AMA

>>106235107
>Just learn a trade
>Nepotism and boomers definitely haven't ruined it for anyone

>>106240787
I'll put that in the "dropping the ball" camp.

There's really no reason to ghost applicants as a business. Just send the generic "Unfortunately we're proceeding with other candidates" message and move on.

>>106240797
More like illegals running jobs without any qualifications and fucking things up. At this point residential blue collar work is a zero sum game.

>>106240808
Sending a rejection letter ever so slightly increases the chances that someone will perform a mass shooting at the headquarters or attempt to sue them for hiring discrimination, ghosting applicants is safer

>>106240844
I'm not located in the promised land of mass shootings and lawyers though.

>>106240863
You're missing out

>ask hiring manager what his management style was
>other guy at the interview starts laughing and asks him if he'll tell me that the last two guys ran for the hills

>meta recruiter contacts me on linkedin
>i go through all the interviewing and shit for months
>pass
>first team match meeting
>get ghosted by recruiter after
???
Are you paid to just give people false hope?

>>106241117
Companies get tax breaks or something if they list jobs, even if they're completely fake.

>>106236607
Just don't offer 4k/hd video without premium ez pz.

>>106241117
Sometimes they like keeping people as beta orbiters to call back later when there is a job opening within the company. Normally a regular company would have a 1+ mode of hiring due to natural attrition and hire a few extra to fit the seats/shifts but now they don't even do that due to the market shitting itself they barely even shift people over. Some of these positions you see are for internal hires so these managers are forced to play the dog and pony show through hiring applications then they default to the internal hire. I saw alot of the last one with 1 exception due to the person who applied being really overqualified so they took him in.

>>106240811
Illegals on the bottom, H1bs on the top, retarded boomers and women telling us everyone is human don't be bigoted.

Socialization is a loss.

>there are seriously people itt who defend sysadmins
The literal only reason you would ever be a sysadmin is that you're too stupid to code but still want to larp like you're one of Us.

We're even building a new altnet without you and your retarded admin password PII required to connect gatekeeping niggerism. Hope you remember Us when you die alone in the gutter penniless and afraid because you just couldn't give up the admin password to the wifi!

>>106241346
The world doesn't need any more fucking wagies. I'm fucking appalled that I'm seeing people who can't fucking even speak English get six-figure jobs easily now.
Even the wagies who work for the better chains are still wallowing in the same miserable pool. I'm fucking spiraling.
t. former wagie

>>106240791
why are you so behind the curve? too much coke and hookers?

>>106241378
The truth of that matter hurts. How come i am dealing with people who have all of these degrees, training and finished high school but cannot keep up with the workload, fuck around and get fired for not doing their job. Not to mention barely know shit about anything. None of these people have logic for their actions, they just fuck shit up without a thought. The middle level entry white collar work is filled with lazy retards.

>>106241385
I bet I've got more than you, if you include my house and other assets put me way above $2M

>>106236345
>>106236535
>there are furfaggots in the thread
Discord chads spool up a new thread without these subhumans please

>>106241393
>>106241378
IT niggers need to fucking die. All they do is go around in their "server room" speaking chimp chatter and bonobo babble niggerspeak and they do NOTHING to increase the company's valuation. The network and my computer work just fine, why are these fucking dahlits still getting paid?

>>106241416
>He wants programmers to do IT work
You really do not want to deal with the shear volume of customers we have to.

>>106241393
I can only surmise that they sold their souls to demons masquerading as human.
>>106241416
t. Singh

>>106241430
Programmers, unlike IT retards, actually know how to think and can simply automate the problem. Like hmmm what if instead of having to pay retarded black skinned dahlits we could have an artificial agent that is intelligent enough to deal with users, Artificial Intelligence if you will, hmmmmmm

>>106241454
>Customer wants his VOIP phone number changed
>Random AI gives customer his own number
>No one in the company knows his number since he changed it with AI automator
>Customer gets fired for not doing his job since no one was notified of the change

Great logic there retard
>AI says EOS is happening and needs equipment replaced
>AI tells programmer to preform a purchase request with new equipment inline with AI cybersecurity standards
>Programmer is pissed that he has to manually install equipment and get out of his cumbical to do IT work

????

>>106240261
This is a fucking post... to some fat FUCK on YouTube named "Boogie2988." Now, I'm tired of this fat FUCK popping up in all of my fucking search engines when I'm looking for a FUCKING workout video! I don't give a FUCK about the aftermath of ANY of you Boogie fans that feel sorry for this greasy fuck! You fat fucking disgusting:

Ass-smelling
Blob
Cheese-drinking
Crisco-bathing
Lard-gargling
Calorie-thieving
Cabbage-Patch Face having
Dr. Robotnik looking
WingStop eating
McDonalds gorging
T-Rex arm having
Non-vegetable eating
Cook with a George Foreman grill just to drink out the drip tray
Wide load
Hungry-Hungry Hippo
Planet
Pretending to have a fucking thyroid problem
Whale slash Free Willy
PArt bus
Yokozuna
Flubber
Kirby
Salad dodger
Chair crusher
Butter ball
Go to subway but put everything on it
Michelin Man
Happy because Hostess is back in business motherfucker

I know there's gonna be a lot of people out there calling me a bully, well guess what? I'm not! I just don't feel sorry for fat fucking people, especially fat fucks who sit there all day, gorge and eat, and make money for absolutely nothing! While a bunch of sorry fucks like yourself play into it!

You don't like what the fuck I'm saying?

Then FUCK YOU!

>>106241494
Maybe if you weren't a retard you'd be able to Prompt Engineer something better? Faggot IT nigger still thinks he deserves a job, fuck you nigger.

>>106241527
Sure buddy you mind flying out to state X for 6 weeks to do documentation, IOS updates and switch/router/server installs in the data center? Oh by the way you have to perform the purchase request and get that approved by your boss. You do not want programmers doing IT.

you have 10 seconds to explain why you're mean to the IT department without complaining that you dont personally have admin rights (most of IT doesn't either)

>>106241561
i cant print my resume to the machine on this floor cuz it says some shit about "tray 1 empty expecting legal" so obvs youre trying to sue me on false pretenses

>>106241561
You contribute ZERO to the business increasing its valuation or other stockholder value. Literally all you do is take money from the real Developers and spend it on on nothing that matters to the company, let alone me making money.

>>106241605
Malding third worlder logic.

>>106241561
i uhhh i dont like ms teams

>>106241561
They keep demanding unreasonable timelines for complex tasks.

>>106241550
>it monkes get put up at the ritz to do two lines of jeetshell
Why do they take money out of my pocket to go to brainlet daycare for free handjobs and dubai chocolate when I'm the one actually doing the real development work?

>>106241561
one of them threw a grenade at me once

>>106241775
Can you describe your workspace? How much are you actually getting paid? How big is the company that you work at? All of this is just seething for no reason. You would hate to install fiber optic lines within an office for 120 users while your boss is giving you OT to do it in 2 days instead of 4 days it would realistically take.

>>106241812
>bawww i haev to move a couple ceiling tiles to pull a piece of string :( :( :( :( my job is so hawwwd pls pray for meee
You IT monkeys need to be gassed.

>>106241831
Would you do that install and still handle your boss that you need to commit code on time. Dumbass the time taken away from your programming is going to cost the company even more money.

>>106241831
>>106241812
>>106241852
>me unironically explaining to my boss via e-mail why I didn't fuck around in a ceiling to pull and re-terminate a maybe 20ft run
lynchpin argument: i didnt have a ladder

>>106241852
It's literally just moving some fucking wires around. And if it was done properly the first time then AI can handle the DNS tables.
>>106241870
Kill yourself lazy nigger.

>>106241888
Running the cables from the server room, installing the desktops, voips, installing and configuring the switches, terminating the cables if its Cat5. Ect once again this is all taking your job away from programming. Then you have to deal with the customers wanting shit changed all the time, bitching about some other shit breaking. You must be getting paid absolutely shit as programer if you want IT money and IT work tacked onto your current job.

>>106241907
IT work isn't real work. That's shit you can get done in an hour at 2pm on a friday.

>>106241870
instead of reflecting on themselves... they blamed the IT department...

Why is this guy so fucking assblasted?

Programmers know more about computing, networking, and even infrastructure than any IT monkey ever could. Just give us the fucking full admin passwords. IT niggers don't even have full Security Clearance ffs.

Every brownoid should be fired from the United States into a volcano

>Found my company put out a ghost job for the department I am 2IC for
>Ask them what the hell is this?
>Apparently numero uno guy asked the same thing
>HR: "We're just getting in early for when you guys need to expand, so we have them on file".
I hate HR more every day.

>>106241927
He has to be a malding third worlder who cannot get admin rights for his work computer. Which would mean he is pissed about not watching porn/playing video games at work on his PC.

At the end of the day he is a brown stupid nigger. Aint no way would programmers have time to pickups IT work, do their job and deal with customers. Programming teams are tiny in comparison to the chronically short manned IT department. My companies IT/Programming to employee ratio is littearly 1/800 aint no way would cutting numbers from IT make this easier to manage. Installing shit like i just described for 120 users takes way longer than 2 hours since you are normally doing projects like that alone.

>>106241937
I did the CCNA and worked in a NOC for a year and have worked as a backend dev for the past 5 years. What you're saying is completely false but I suspect you're just trolling

>>106241870
Is this what zoomers are playing now? These combos do like no damage, does real gaming hurt their fragile egos too much?

>thread complaining about le it
honestly I don't do shit at work but it feels like every time I'm away, when I come back everything is broken. It's like the opposite of the old "the network works, why do we pay these people??" thing; I wonder why I have to spend a whopping like 5 hours in office a day but as soon as I'm not there I'm like "Oh. Now that I'm not here fixing the little shit inbetween hour-long smoke breaks, NOTHING FUCKING WORKS and I have TEN THOUSAND EMAILS COMPLAINING ABOUT IT"

>>106241951
they need a reason to keep their job

>>106241987
Fuck off furfag

>>106241987
Kill yourself you fucking furfag brainlet nocoder. If AI doesn't come for your job, I will.

>>106241987
Fuck off furfag

>>106241956
Someone programmed those switches and routers. While you type random numbers into the "iOS" a real programmer makes sure the thing fucking works at all, let alone after you touch it with your swarthoid "scripts".

>>106235118
Yes and no. Depends on what it gets installed into. Could be singing birthday cards. Could be ICBMs.
t. semiconductor manufacturing

>>106242028
Considering he brought up Cisco then its a street shiting indian who is ruining that programming. Hard sell to say programers are innocent angels who can do everything without it breaking.

>>106242081
>programers are innocent angels who can do everything without it breaking.
Real programmers can. Code runs the world. Not "IT".

>female po replaced by male po (no, she wasn't fired, she just switched to a different role)
>male po starts pestering us to "go drink together" after work
damn i can't believe i'm saying this but i miss our female po who literally did nothing

>>106242081
Name even one thing a programmer ever "broke".

>got a senior web dev contract at a big company
>the team is just me, my boss (nice but very buys), and one other guy on the other side of the world
>i'm a full stack developer, but my job is to move our webpage from an old proprietary deployment pipeline to another
>neither my boss nor the other guy know how to do it, so its up to me to figure it out
>every piece of software the company uses is developed in-house, meaning I can't check stackoverflow for help
>there's a lot of documentation, but most of it assumes you already know how every other part of the pipeline works, and it doesn't really give any examples
>I don't have the permissions to actually touch the pipeline, and they aren't allowed to give those permissions to me, so I have to ask my boss who's usually busy
>there's no way to manually control the pipeline, or to ssh into it, making it a complete black box
>there's software to emulate parts of the pipeline locally, but it's unclear how accurately it emulates it, and is a bitch to set up
>there chats you can join to ask questions, but I don't have permission to join them, and my boss can't give me permission
>I've been here a month and I'm maybe 50% done

I've been a dev for 10 years and am finding myself floundering trying to wade through this. Is this situation as fucked up as I think it is, or am I too retarded for this line of work?

>>106242028
>Someone programmed those switches and routers
someone programmed them like shit. they are full of vulnerabilities and literal backdoors.
also, most of them were programmed by asians, most likely chinese but probably indians these days too

>>106242149
>>there chats you can join to ask questions, but I don't have permission to join them, and my boss can't give me permission
I wonder whose fault this is........

>>106242028
>random numbers into the "iOS"

>>106241960
this is one of the most ironic post I've seen this entire thread

>>106242170
care to explain your schizoposting to the rest of the class

>>106242149
That job sounds like complete fucking ass. I'd start looking for other stuff and jump on the first thing that pays a comparable wage.

>>106242191
I won't answer that.

>>106242167
the power of a "deep" voice and being confident while spewing bullshit is insane

>>106242191
Strive's main criticism is that damage is way too high lol

>>106241561
All I know is developers are some of the biggest douches around, they really do think they’re the smartest people in the room at all times. Sorry you were too dumb to study something actually challenging like physics or mathematics bro. Imagine being a smarty pants developer but you are still a slave in some company kek. I’ll read TAOCP in a year and be better than most of these geezers, dattebayo.

>>106242247
i have a masters degree in math and work in llm development

>>106242236
>biggest combo did maybe 60% across around 11 hits in 6 seconds
Wait do zoomers actually really truely think that's "high damage"

>>106242167
this cannot be real

>>106241397
I'll take that bet

>IT sissyadmins be like "Strive is a good game"
PULL THE CABLE WAGIE

>>106242274
Alright nvm

>>106242278
behold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KtzADIW0tg

>>106241592
give it 18 year old paper

>>106242277
you know you're fucking ass one counterhit from Sol and you're losing like 80% of your health. ft5 NOW.

>>106242307
This is your brain on niche fighting games.

>>106242296
Imagine not only showing the world this but also gaining millions of youtube subs and tens of thousands of paying twitch subs while doing it somehow

>>106242307
ok sure. i havent played basically at all this season but ok. and fwiw among my irl friends we all agree that we dont play strive anymore because it got way too sluggish for our tastes (not that it got easier, just slower)

>>106242318
there are people on this earth who think Arcsys has ever made a fair game

and most of them think P4A was an easygoing, scrub friendly, low damage, sluggish, absolute disaster of a fighting game designed for babies where you needed 90 touches to win by design so that anybody could play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wg-T77Tjzw

>>106242327
okay not now but maybe tomorrow. I honestly didn't think you'd take the bait lol. 7PM EST?

>>106242318
oh sorry would you rather play divekick?

>>106242319
You forgot one factor. He boosted his accounts entirely through botting. You could argue him being an industry plant based upon the bullshit he has brought up about stop killing games initiative. No suprise however aint no way retards like Hasan, Destiny, Asmongold, and the likes would exist without Night media a disney subsidiary.

>>106242346
Sauce on him botting?

>>106242363
Anon you cant be serious. Even Vtubers have talked about it. You cannot game the algorithm without it. Same goes with consistency which is what he was doing with uploading shitloads of youtube shorts, twitch streams and the likes.

>>106242274
My exes brother in law has these credentials, smart guy. He made bank. Senpai was a little too different for me though.

>>106235552
>:)
almost fell for the bait

>>106242387
I don't follow any of this shit

>>106242345
i work but maybe i'll finally buy P4A for PC, or at least finally learn BBTag and roll my Akihiko/Elizabeth dream team

im dogshit at fighters but nothing is sweeter than being a noob at anime games and watching "lol im plat im so nice" SF frauds marvel at their healthbar fucking disappearing any time anything happens

>>106242345
>soive dodgers be like
>"the damage in this game seems a little high"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DprX159kpLg

I hate this country and I hate the boomers that ruined it and filled it with Indians.

i'm gonna do it
i'm gonna ask my boss for "more responsibility"
sorry i'm just too bored right now and could use some more action
>hurr durr just play vidya/work out/get a second job
no

>>106242757
Do it. BTFO those IT retards.

How the fuck are these vids still getting so many views? He might be the biggest internet lolcow ever

>>106242796
She's a real programmer, unlike you, IT jeet

>>106242803
He's never worked a single day as a developer. I have, not that it matters.

>>106242808
>I have
Yes, as an IT jeet
You are not and never will be a real programmer

>>106242825
How do you know what job I have or haven't worked?

it's a law of the universe that every general has to have at least 1 insane spamming schizo that is in a constant state of anal bleeding.

>>106242834
I am submitting your PIP right now. GET READY NERD. I HAVE 300 CONFIRMED FIRINGS UNDER MY BELT.

>>106242834
Real programmers know everything. Who do you think wrote the databases where your social security number is stored and who do you think wrote the system that gets you paid and lets you take out money with your debit card?

Unless you’re programming LLMs and doing machine learning lower your voice when talking to me.

>it's another "IT monkey thinks hes better than you because he has a couple of passwords" episode
Is there even one reason I shouldn't just hack their azure to give myself full admin on every server? I've been coding BASH since the wuhan flu, these faggots can't catch me.

He's pretending to troll while being genuinely buttmad about god knows what underneath it

>>106242907
Its been like this for months. Same poster mind you. All about not having admin passwords then cries on here as if programmers want to do IT work in addition to their jobs.

Do you have a resident "that guy" in your department?
Got a server admin junior who thinks he is hot shit because he has a Debian server at home and constantly fucks up deployments.

No one is ever getting a job again unless every single indian gets deported.

>>106242943
We have a 50 year old guy that's been here for 20 years and basically does nothing except unblock problems nobody can figure out cause the codebase is a giant steaming pile of asshole. Think he probably works like 10 hours a week, he spends the rest of his time literally playing solitaire all day it's insane

>>106242943
One of our IT "Engineers" is like that guy supposably has a CCIE in whatever but has zero documentation of the work he does which causes nothing but problems since no one knows what he is fucking with and why he is always the one breaking shit. If we had some notes to go off of we could reign him into what operations are actually happening. Worse so is we cannot get through the brick wall since he's a dumbass that never listens to anyone else. The boss is considering moving him to another section since we cannot afford his fuckups anymore and cant really fire him for them either.

>>106237518
It would be absolutely retarded. AWS automatically does a buttload of shit necessary for enterprise-level SaaS. It would take you years of development to replicate AWS's security, redundancy, and availability by going with a cheaper option.

So you would either pay a team of developers hundreds of thousands annually to re-invent the wheel on cheaper infrastructure. OR, you don't replicate all of AWS's features and get caught with your pants down during a security incident or outage.

I learned this lesson the hard way. We went with cheap hosting and implemented security solutions on our own, only for the cheap host to go out of business, render all of our config work moot, and give us 60 days to migrate everything to another host.

For your company's case, this is probably a usage thing. Spinning up too many unneeded instances and services can get expensive real quick. Audit your usage and scale down to what is absolutely necessary.

>>106240268
>for the love of god I need those rate cuts to be real so FAGMAN can ring me up and say I got an offer
they killed that tax credit. That shit is never coming back lmao

>>106242944
start reporting them to ICE. They changed the visa rules so now they have to renew in person, and if they're over they will get deported. I

LOL XD. But seriously will i start seeing my hardware move from intel shit to AMD? Part of the benefit for intel was cheaper sku lists for people to buy in bulk for X products.

Is Sayaka from Sayaka's Digital Attic really a tranny. I'm on the fence on this one?

>>106243129
Yes and most vtubers are also. Even some of the playboy models where.

>>106235552
As a useless mouthbreather sysadmin, I can assure you that my job is important, not to me or to society but to the company, because they get to charge twice my salary from the schmucks who think I'm doing something.

>news articles yesterday: CS MAJORS ARE PICKING UP JOBS AT CHIPOTLE
>news articles today: CHIPOTLE IS AUTOMATING AWAY JOBS

goodnight /twg/

>>106243366
>Companies keep pushing for automation
>Without changing how society is going to function
Dumbasses, how are people supposed to pay for shit if the main way to get money is through jobs?

>>106243731
Same logic can be applied to Fusion and Asteroid mining. Those 2 things would destroy so many jobs its unreal if either of them happen within our lifetimes.

>>106242977
How do people like this get jobs? I know about the "everyone lies on their resume" meme but there's still getting past the Eternal HR Roastie.

>>106243773
I just hope if those things happen, then society changes, no way can our current system cope with no one being able to pay for anything and in turn, no longer making money for those at the top.

>>106243366
$25m is peanuts for them. fake news.

>>106243775
You can claim everything on the resume if you can back it up in person/interview. That is the key here. Degrees/certs are just hard filters on these claims since more often then not you likely have done what you said.

>>106234953
https://youtu.be/7zTei5RMhQ8

I DON'T WANNA

>too smart for junior work
>too dumb for a senior position (they're actually looking for a full stack dev ops system administrator application engineer) (must know everything before you get hired because they want you to "get on the ground running" aka zero training)
i don't like life anymore

>>106235181
would

>>106243884
Then you're still a junior, retard. Tech isn't a fucking jobs training program anymore, faggot.

>>106243905
then what the fuck am i supposed to do it i keep racking up yoe but my position never lets me learn anything that would let me actually move up the ladder

>>106243928
then find a different company that does challenge you

>>106243928
>juniors today have literally never heard of a lateral move
i really thought i'd seen it all, but this level of entitlement is unreal.

>>106243939
that's literally just a gamble and i keep losing every time
i hop i find out im back at square one and management gives me some grandiose 5 year plan for me to eventually get somewhere else
stick around to just find out its a nothingburger because they don't want to lose where you are right now

>>106243807
The problem is that the Eternal Roastie just sends shit through AI and equates that to a hard days' work. Maybe I'm just jaded because I've had family members get new jobs within the last few years while I feel like I'm worse off now than I was before 2020.

>>106243897
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oqJvpukiN4

>>106243060
>One Big Beautiful Bill Act reinstated those credits

I'm an English teacher that just started my first semester in OMSCS from Georgia Tech, hoping to change careers with a masters. How fucked am I

>>106244557
>Coming from english degree to MS CS
Hopefully you ran through the CS50 course from harvard before applying right? Job wise its normal to do a MS degree to swap careers but Engineering and CS MS degrees are a bit thick in the content without some self education to back it up.

The more I think about it, the ideal balance to strike is to max out on competence while also being unreliable. The unreliability gets you tasked less, but the competence also earns you some autonomy. And if you really burn too many things with the unreliability as to become a real problem, you job hop and leverage the competence to get your foot in the next door (and probably get a pay rise in the same process).

GET ME OUT OF THIS 3 HOUR MEETING

>>106244932
just play a game

>get contacted on Linkedin
>humor them because no better thing to do and like to be on top of my interviewing game
>ace every round
>sorry anon, the position is not available

I do this shit on company time anyway, but it feels disrespectful only telling me after I already put in the "effort"

>>106244932
>could have been a short email
Long mtgs with lots of participants without any chance of meaningful interaction are basically solitary confinement. Imagine being stuck in a 24h mtg. At some point the humiliation turns into human rights violation. Would not be surprised at all if someone down the line finds a correlation between long mtgs and mental health problems. It is the "concussion" of office workers

>his company does not bring trannies and drags to the office
couldn't be me, but I'm not big on freak shows

>>106245134
Most people don't work for IBM anon.

>>106245121
Holy ESL.

How do you deal with de quervain and cmc arthritis?

>>106245453
Become ambidextrious. Desk height, arm rest height, and boob arm rest.

i'm so fucking sick and tired of listening to all the bullshit on the daily meetings
every work computer worldwide should just explode and india should get teleported into the shadow realm

>>106245453
i only use the trackpad so i have no issues

>>106243928
>then what the fuck am i supposed to do
Side projects. If you don't make things in your free time get the fuck out of tech.

Clients give me these fucking 'subject matter experts' that don't know a thing, can't answer a simple question, barely speak English, can't understand what the fuck they're saying or what the fuck they want, I'm just tired of it. How goddamned hard can it be to get somebody who speaks English to distill requirements and goals?

>>106245808
>subject matter experts
>know less than the guy that started last week
every single time

What are certs like to get anons? I've been coasting off fine with just my bachelors, but after recent layoffs due to shady financial shit the company has done recently, I'm struggling to find anything.

>>106245922
Some people take classes to learn the material, others including me prefer self-study. There are textbooks, practice exams, and Youtube channels, etc. You schedule a test and pay the test fee. You then take a test in a proctored environment. That means you go somewhere and sit in a secured computer lab room. There will be security cameras and you won't be allowed to look at your phone. If you pass the test, you get the certification. Most certifications expire after a few years.

Certs are helpful for general knowledge and for getting interviews. They're less relevant for passing said interviews and doing your job well.

>>106245995
AGI putting the entire world out of work within five years is the silly meme. LLMs replacing many entry-level jobs, less so.

>>106245995
It just pushes the skill ceiling higher. That is all tech has ever done.

>>106245998
My problem right now is getting a foot into the door so this might be the ticket.

>>106246022
>LLMs replacing many entry-level jobs, less so.
what happens when all the entry level jobs are replaced but the number of senior jobs required is the same or greater

>>106246043
This is different in breadth and speed to anything prior in the tech workforce, it's not just a skill ceiling but rather hollowing out roles such that there's just one guy to take responsibility while AI is doing the repeatable work
AI is the tractor of white collar work, regular farm labourers don't have a higher skill ceiling they just become obsolete

>>106246067
do you want a ticket or a foot, make up your mind

>>106246168
I get it but that requires more knowledge to perform. What happens is that it diffuses these skill sets out. At this point anyone can start up a business making and selling furniture. Anyone can hire R&D to engineer solutions for market demands hell you can do it and sell some made for TV crap. The skill ceiling his higher since their is much more to learn just like farming but the control of the end production is laid in more so on the person rather than just the owner who can afford the equipment.

>end of year review
>Hey passes up for promotion yet again
>Some bullshit about how I need to show deep impact
>call out sick
>The project I'm leading magically comes to a complete halt while I'm out
I really want to find a new job and leave these cunts holding the bag. What's the most hilarious way to quit a job? Who can I throw under the bus when I leave?

>>106246530
Get passed up*

>>106246530
How does quitting work in your country?
Long term solution would be, save up enough PTO so you can be like
>i quit
>but I also have all this PTO, so today is my last day!

>>106246530
>What's the most hilarious way to quit a job?
On PTO

>>106245808
sounds entitled tbf. Why don't you learn their native language? LLMs are pretty good@ESL->English translations

>>106245995
>corpos must forcefeed AI to society because they have nothing else going on, not a single bit of creativity and they are already invested too much into the emperor's new clothes. Following the herd is the safe bet until someone competent comes around and eats their lunch

Name 10 things AI made better. Let me start, some models are pretty good at generating porn (but hardly the AGI breakthrough). 9 more to go:

>>106246763
generating boiler plate code

>>106246590
>>106246595
I'm American so technically I can quit whenever but I'll probably give two weeks just so I don't burn bridges with this huge company.

>New team and new project
>Now consistently having 4-6 hours of meetings each day
I don't actually know how I'm supposed to get work done lol

>>106245808
Have them write it down. One it removes ambiguity and two it allows you to come back to your client or supervisor to show them what you're dealing with.

>>106246530
there were good collection already
1. Take as much sick leave as possible. If you work in one of those unlimited PTO companies time to stress test the policy
2. Spend all you available budget, learning courses, books, home equipment
3. Document EVERYTHING on your way out. In fact, this should be part of everyone's routine, you don't know when you need to put a bit more bite into your negotiations
4. Call out people on their bullshit in public, time for reverse humiliation
5. Start unionizing, organize a strike lmao
6. Start gossips, hide secret messages around the office
7. Be on top of your opsec, always have plausible deniability

>>106246778
Nobody is writing boilerplate. We have had frameworks to do this since forever. They're just moving the bar up on what they claim is boilerplate and it's going to blow up in their face.

Why do they even approach people like me with 5 years of experience and a masters degree? I don't really want to switch jobs. I already make 80k eur a year on 36 hrs at the government. In this country (Netherlands) earning 90k or even 110k wouldn't really make much of a difference. Going to 110k is like 15k extra a year, 1.2k net a month. Woohoo big deal. The millenials who bought their homes already get that from their 1.5% interest (at lower rates than current ponzi market / housing market).

I don't really have much motivation to do this work anymore. I really enjoy that I can just get away with working 4-6 hour days and I don't think I'll ever be able to go back to working the full 8 as I did when I was more junior. Companies should just recruit juniors I don't know how senior level+ people can stay motivated to do this work. In Europe it definitely isn't the money or career ladder.
>>106234953
Of course

>>106246778
>Dijkstra: My point today is that, if we wish to count lines of code, we should not regard them as "lines produced" but as "lines spent": the current conventional wisdom is so foolish as to book that count on the wrong side of the ledger.

For the trivial case I might just agree, but ime anything slightly more complicated it breaks down quickly. IME for non trivial shit I spend more time prompting and doublechecking the output. Also, don't forget it is heavily subsidized atm. I have no problem spending my dayjob budget on AI scam, but I would never pay for it if it was coming out of my pocket.

>>106246530
> most hilarious way to quit

Probably no the most hilarious but I can recommend just doing as little as possible. Start coming in late and leaving early consistently. On WFH days only do mandatory meetings and then activate the jiggler. Just stress test how long it'll take for you to get away with doing the absolute bare minimum.

>>106246879
git gud at negotiations and interviewing. What's the harm in entertaining them? In fact, it can be quite hilarious when YOU ghost the corpo after a laughable offer. Also, what happens if you miscalculate your job security?

>>106246832
8. make irresponsible commitments in the name of the team
9. leave subtle easter eggs in the company feedback system about the people you don't like

>>106246836
>Nobody does X. We have had frameworks to do this since forever. They're just moving the bar up on what they claim is X and it's going to blow up in their face.

>>106246879
Job interviews are a skill totally separate from actually doing your job, and you need to practice.

>win lottery
>have enough sense to know to never let anyone else know
>start slacking off at work in an attempt to just get them to fire me so I don't raise the "why did he quit so abruptly " suspicion
>this drags on for a year , do literally no work all day, and they still have not fired me

>>106247215
Congrats, Anon

>>106247215
How much did you win?

>>106247215
just call someone a nigger and get fired immediately no need to draw it out if you want to be fired.

>>106247593
>Anon calls his manager a nigger
>instead of getting fired he gets promoted to Director of HR
>still can't get fired

>can you hear me?
>am I still audible?
>can you hear me? hello?
>i'm not hearing anyone
Yeah bitch when you start to say something that prompts a response we'll say something back

>>106247599
>get promoted to director of HR
>start a reverse affirmative action
>hire only white males
>companies gets sued into the ground
>still can't get fired

>>106247622
>>get promoted to director of HR
>>start a reverse affirmative action
>>hire only white males
>company reports record profits and efficiency
>Anon gets promoted to VP

>>106247640
>>106247640
>>106247640