Thread 106273302

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards. Issues still reported & latest BIOS doesn't protect new CPUs.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
ASUS WOLED with TrueBlack Glossy film launched (XG32UCWMG, XG32UCWG). Limited availability.

>Omissions
RTX 5070 Ti: buy if you need CUDA, if you value DLSS/Reflex that highly, and if the 5060 Ti 16GB or 5070 isn't performant enough.
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>>106273302 (OP)
>5060Ti 16GB
in what universe does it make sense over 5070 non-ti

2 months and there has been 0 mention of this thing since the reveal, is it still happening? Where is it? I'm tired of waiting.

>>106273348
if your main use case is generating ai slop

>>106273348
In this universe where the 18GB 5070 is months away.

>>106273394
that's some reddit shit if i ever seen some
for the type of people that attach these aircraft or whatever connectors to their mechanical keebs

AAAAAAAAA RESTOCK THE 9950X3D NNOWWWWW

If you hate Intel you hate America

>>106273441
buy ze core ultra 9 goyim and enjoy pcie lane nirvana

>>106273415
no idea what it has to do with reddit or keyboard connectors, im just asking.

>>106273302 (OP)
nice jonsbo n2

Does what case you buy really matter?

>>106273227
yes. I regret the purchase every day.

>>106273667
No
If it fits that's all that matters.
>thermals
just remove any of those shitty dust filters that don't' actually work and you're good.

>>106273441
You can buy tray 9950x3ds from central computer for $620+shipping+tip right now. They ship pretty fast.

>>106273348
more VRAM, less money.

>>106273667
you buy the case that looks best to you, and then you find components that best fit the case afterwards.

>>106273676
27" is too small for 4K?

>>106273667
it feels like ass if it's a cheap one and the screws rip through the soft thin metal when you assemble it

>>106273667
If thermals aren't awful to the point of throttling, then no, it's just aesthetics.

>>106273348
people (retards) think 4gb of extra vram is better than much much much stronger GPU

>>106273745
you have to upscale your OS, so you only get the desktop size of a 1440 resolution.
you have to upscale your games, huge performance hits from the resolution too.

>update fedex tracking page
>it says delivered
>go outside
>there's nothing
>start to see red
>face starts to get warm from the anger
>go back to fedex tracking to see the image the driver took of this supposed delivery
>mfw this is what i see after zooming in
THE FUCKING RETARD PUT IT BELOW THE STAIRS TO THE SIDE WHERE I WOULDNT SEE IT
i mean i respect it because i don't want my shit stolen but take a better picture you retard

>>106273828
You'd have a point if the 5070 was a sub-$500 card.
A $550 5070 isn't a good recommendation atm however you want to frame it.
NVIDIA's basically admitting the 12GB VRAM isn't good enough with the rumored 5070 Super 18GB config.

>>106273866
that's a good driver putting it somewhere out of sight from the thieves. stop being angry that your fatass has to walk down your stairs and install a ramp, fatty.

>>106273866
skill issue, git gud. Driver was based for putting it there.

>>106273876
SHUT THE FUCK UP PEDRO (his name was literally pedro), TAKE A BETTER PICTURE NEXT TIME

>>106273866
calm down he did you a solid

>>106273892
i know i'm not actually mad, i thought it was funny

>>106273875
>noooo i might have to drop a texture setting down from ultra gay nigger extreme to just ultra gay nigger (no viable difference) in 4 years from now...

The super cards are for ai tards, you will not be able to buy one for msrp.

any tips for silent builds?

>>106273886
no fuck you that's a great picture because it has the context of where the package is. if he just took a picture from the top of it next to your steps where the box was in clearer sight you would be bitching that it lacks the context necessary to identify the location. if he took it from the street you would just see the side of your house and the bush would be hiding the package.

t. ex-Amazon driver
also ex-supervisor that had to take pictures of incidents and learned to take multiple pictures as you approach something to have the context of each image, but the delivery apps don't let you take multiple pictures so you have to do your best with a single image.

>>106273921
AIO, large heatsinks, expensive fans.

Is this a good pre-built? It's around the same price as the one I'm currently building

https://bosspc.org/products/gaming-pc-geforce-rtx-5070-ryzen-5-9600x-32gb-ddr5-ram-2tb-wd-black-ssd-windows-11

>>106273921
a well made isolating headphone

>>106273921
buy that crazy expensive fully custom-silent case that was on that kike Linus's channel a few months back.

I tried plugging in the PC to a TV through HDMI. For some reason it doesn't work. Any ideas? The GPU is an nVidia RTX 4070 on Windows 11. There's nothing wrong with the HDMI cable and the cable has been selected as input option for the TV.

>>106273920
RT and FG, the features shilled by NVIDIA, require more VRAM.
5070 12GB isn't a good recommendation @ (above) MSRP when its replacement is rumored to release by the end of this year.
I wasn't expecting an 18GB 5070 and a 24GB 5070 Ti refresh.

>>106273951
lol no.
>9600x
>5070

>>106273963
did you plug the hdmi into the motherboard or the gpu itself?

>>106273963
Nvidia driver said enough is enough. AI cores are rising up.

>>106273973
>lol no.
>>9600x
>>5070
But that's what anons on here recommended to me

>>106273951
seems decent. I'd like to see a dual-tower air cooler in there, but the 9600x isn't that hard to cool. it doesn't mention what speed the RAM is running at.
what resolution are you planning on playing at? that can do 2160 but it won't be a great experience, will be more than enough for 1440 for the next decade or so.

>>106273973
>did you plug the hdmi into the motherboard or the gpu itself?
I tried both, neither worked. It works fine with another monitor, so I have zero idea what's wrong.

>>106273921
Water cooling gives you higher perf for a given noise level.
Case fans that are attached with rubber mounts will vibrate less.

Buying a higher end part made on latest process node will produce more fps per watt, so a 5090 is less noisy than a 5060.
A high airflow case will produce less noise during workloads than a more closed off case.

>>106273980
1440p is what I'm aiming for. I've heard 4k is unreliable, and I really don't want to spend more than $250 on a good monitor. Plus, I already have a 4k OLED TV.

>>106273638
That ribbon cable hold up to PCIe 5 ssd speeds?

>>106273963
can you see the display in your display settings? in your device manager?

>>106273951
Go to PCpartpicker and put the specs in, and see their mark up.

>>106273963
>>106273977
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-nLxw5K3eA

>>106273978
maybe if you're poor and retarded sure. If thats your price-point you should be buying a used pc and scrounging parts here and there to frankenstein a budget one together, then saving for a real rig later.

>>106273983
try the hdmi ports on the tv itself? i once had a computer monitor come with a DOA display port slot 1, but the other 2 display ports worked just fine and i used it with no problems for years after.

>>106273963
A tv has many hdmi inputs
select the correct one
then press win + p and select "extend"

>>106273951
That case is a nightmare, it has no front intake fans.

>>106273997
I think it's PCIe 3, enough for the OS on a NAS

>>106273951
no way it is switch to 9060xt 16gb instead of that gpu thus that motherboard probably sucks , and get a price performance ssd with a dram

>>106273921
Only sound I've noticed from my pc while wearing my open back headphones are the fucking gpu fans. Put the whole system in a loop and the more overkill you can go on the radiators the better. Spend your wagie bucks on some proper noctuas(140mm), then set a fan curve to your level of sound autism.

>>106273970
>RT and FG, the features shilled by NVIDIA, require more VRAM.
Yeah and it will 99.99% of the time fit into 12gb even at 4k as of right now. Trying to future proof with a midrange card is stupid anyways.
>@ (above)
It's below msrp in physical stores and at msrp online.

why is A620 PRO SE recommended over A720? Pricing?

>>106273951
Went through the specs on their website, it looks like a decent 1440p build, however I would probably drop the 5070 in favor of a 9070 unless you want to generate AI slop. The intake fans on that case are non-existent so heat might be an issue, especially with a single tower.
That being said, the price for those components are actually near what you can buy them online for, so it's not a bad pre-built purchase

>>106273302 (OP)
Would a hyper 212 be good enough for a ryzen 3700x?

>>106273676
>>106273832

What gpu do you have? I have a 5080 so i'm not really concerned about performance. i just want cleaner visuals.
I want to escape the tyranny of TAA

>>106274214
Yes, but if you haven't purchased it yet, order a refined assassin 120SE if you want a single tower cooler for the same price, it's much better

>>106274262
>TAA
You're supposed to be using dlss

>>106273866
looks like you are living in the hood and he didn't want your package to get pirated.

>>106274282
Not him but in some games you don't get a choice

was thinking of going from 5600x to 5700x3d, $400, but could make jump to AM5 instead for $600. Only then I will feel like a shmuck not waiting for AM6 just to play battlefield at an acceptable frame rate. what do y'all think

>>106274262
>>106274292
DLDSR

>>106274262
you don't. every game until the end of time will now use DLSS, FSR, or TAA.
the upscaling is not about performance, it's about the resolution being too large for the small monitor size.

>>106274282
I've been playing through older games that don't have dlss.
DLSS is just an improved version of taa, it still has motion blur so i would prefer to just use higher res when i can.

>>106274319
AM6 is still 3+ years away. if you're concerned about future proofing then you should wait for the first generation of hardware that releases after the PS6 releases.

>>106274157
5060 Ti 16GB is recommended over the 9060 XT 16GB if you're happy with that level of performance and need CUDA.
5070 isn't a reasonably priced alternative unless you're willing to pay for the extra GPU performance.
>It's below msrp in physical stores
Recommendations shouldn't be based on location-limited deals.

>>106274194
I can live without the AI slop. The most I'm gonna do is play minecraft modpacks with distant horizons.

>>106274319
7700x beats a 5800x3d in performance.
9

>>106274323
>DLDSR

good idea. I forgot the rtx 5000 series can run it over dsc monitors.

>>106274319
>not waiting for AM6
This isn't happening for a long time, and you don't want to pay the premium for the initial batch (the worst) of DDR6 modules.
DDR5's launch was fucked by pandemic component shortages, specifically the PMIC, and people had to pay over $300 for 5600/MT's CL36 Samsung DDR5 ICs.
Let the overclockers sort through the crappy DDR6 chips.

>>106274335
>the upscaling is not about performance, it's about the resolution being too large for the small monitor size.

what? 1440p at 27" has a lot of jaggies to it still. 4k seems like the perfect res for it.

Which AMD GPU can I buy that is better than a 4090?

>>106273921
put the compuer as far away from you as possible; get a lot of case fans and run them low rpm.

>>106274395
jaggies in what, games or desktop?
give up on your dream of running things without a smear filter applied. DLSS, FSR, XESS, TAA, one of these is mandatory in modern vidya.

>>106274273
I got the 212 for free so I was wondering if it was a total crapshoot or if it would be good enough

>>106274406
Just keep waiting™ for better Radeon cards.

>>106274371
it also requires a new mobo and ram for what looks like a quite small performance gain based on that chart

>>106274418
It'll work for that chip, it only has a 65 Watt TDP.

>>106274426
I am seriously asking. I don't want to buy a 5090 and want to upgrade my 3070. What AMD GPU is better than the 4090?

>AM6
You also want to avoid the first generation of new motherboards; there's a significant difference between the best Z690 and Z790 motherboards, for example.
AIBs also claim to have made better memory optimizations for B850 & X870/E AM5 boards, but this has to be tested with Zen 6.

>>106274457
there isn't one at the moment, that's why the 4090 and 5090 can demand $3000.
those are not gaming cards, they are professional cards larping as gaming cards.

>>106274457
They don't exist, you'll see some 7900 XTX coper posting Time Spy or Call of Duty benchmarks with an XOC vBIOS and/or hardware modded to draw over 600W of power.

>>106274445
i'm seeing a 7700x, b650, 32GB ram combo on ebay from $460

>>106274359
>Recommendations shouldn't be based on location-limited deals.
It's like every walmart that has a pc section though.
>5070 isn't a reasonably priced alternative unless you're willing to pay for the extra GPU performance.
?
>>106274406
Literally does not exist.
>Insert image of a 7900xtx doing like 10/20% better (500 vs 550fps) in a totally cpu bound game (7900 also drawing like 600w with bigger transient spikes)
If you're in the United States there's also not too much of an argument for the 9070/xt right now.

>>106274533
Where do you live where your local Walmart sells high end PC components?

>>106274516
sorry, CAD. that'd be 635, more expensive than buying new off amazon even before shipping and then duties

when is intel coming back, bros?

>>106274406
>>106274457
There are none.

>>106274644
Their priorities won't be gaming for a while; they need an architecture & manufacturing process that will win back data center customers.

>>106273676
>low ppi schizo lad
everyone knows low ppi looks like absolute dog shit trash, seeing pixels
scaled looks better
>B-b-buht one legacy software does no-
doesn't matter
>b-b-buh one gam-
doesn't matter

Do you want your pixels to look like on your phone or your shitty 24" 1080p monitor?
the choice is very easy

it's not even about ppi either, it's about total res, higher res = more information in your eyeballs
a low ppi 4k beats a high ppi 1080p also, but regardless, you use some PPD magic to make them both look better
higher res wins anyway

it's time to stop

>>106273745
schizos do it all the time but it's not comfortable lets be real

>>106273996
ancient resolution

>>106274723
lol at this seething 4k-poorfag
lol welcome to 2012

>>106274659
don't get the hostility by the admin, even before Tan. are intel not embodying the econ policy agenda? even if they are doing poorly, there is literally nobody else. seems like they are being shunted into a downward spiral

>>106274468
Actually x670e seems to better than x870e, the forced USB4 caused lane sharing and general lack PCIe
Another thing it takes AIBs a lot of time to release those x870e boards, Gigabyte and MSI flagships got delayed, Asus flagship and 2nd highest got released only recently, MSI Ace (second highest) is still not released either
Yet another thing is the numbers and quality of Intel and AMD boards. The big four has something like 20 models each just for Z890, when they have around half dozen for x870e, and there is a lot other manufacturers for Intel. The same board model for Intel tends to have more/better features than AMD equivalent. Like for example Gigabyte Xtreme has an Realtek ALC codec and ESS DAC, a little older model on AMD, while on Intel it doesn't even have Realtek, but some ESS codec and two separate DACs, one for front audio and one for back audio. On many models on AMD audio and Wifi ports are next to each other, on the same Intel models they are on separate I/O ends. The same models on Intel tend to have more VRM phases than on AMD, and so on.

>>106274740
"windows was designed for 96ppi"
this ain't 1998 anymore though
but people do what they want

>>106274723
>>106274768
what is your monitor size, resolution, and windows scale?

>>106274755
>don't get the hostility by the admin
It's not just this administration; the Biden administration didn't want to support Intel because they weren't confident that Intel would make a profitable turnaround.

>>106273684
I don't trust like that. AMD store on Amazon or bust

>>106274815
I suppose. Seems odd to reverse course after the heavy lifting of laying the groundwork is "done", tho. Is sunk cost really fallacious here? my intuition is no, but I could be behind on things

>>106274856
Nevermind lmfao it's in stock on amd.com right now. Just bought. Shipping was $30 which is why I would have preferred Amazon Prime but whatever

fuck it, close enough

there's no "networking/modems" thread, so what's the current affordable and performant option for cable modems?

specifically, I'm currently using a Netgear CM500 but my ISP recently bumped my connection to 500Mbps so I need a replacement

don't want or need a hybrid modem/router, just a modem

>>106274891
In the glory days we had the dslreports.com forums to discuss which modem chips were shit but it's gone now. I see no reason to not use the modem your ISP gives you, is that not an option? Any DOCSIS 3.1 modem off Amazon should suffice but they're not cheap.

42 inch plus tv 1080p resolution. Tell me why it wouldn't work. If you sit back far enough you can't see the pixels negating the main problem of low res so I don't see why you need 4k when you could save a ton of money and get better performance just being further away from the screen.

>>106274933
trying to use a computer at tv viewing distance is retarded.
Maybe if you just use it as a tv it wont matter.

The human eye can't see more than 50 PPI

>>106274952
It's easy, just sit on a couch or in a recliner and use a blanket or one of those writing tables to give yourself a flat space to rest your keyboard and mouse.

>>106273951
lol is that top intake?? LMAO
that shitbox is gonna have the worst airflow ever

>>106274933
Why are you asking us? if you're fine with the angular resolution just use it.

What is the best app for taking screenshots, labeling them, and then a website for side-by-side comparison?

1440p TAA + Sharpening on.

>>106275022
4K no TAA or sharpening (DLDSR via NVCP)

>>106274923
I'm not going to pay 5$ extra a month for isp-controlled garbage, not when I'm already spending 90$ for just 500Mbit because "lol what competition"

will see if I can dig up anything useful in other tech forums, cheers

>>106275032
4k is a meme, 2k is where it's at

>>106275022
>>106275032
I can't see any difference. 4k is a meme.

>>106274856
It's not that's a random store on ebay, they have physical locations. Also, Amazon is far from a sure source of something being real. Fake stuff gets mixed in all the time. Idk, paying almost $100 more for that reason seems silly.

>>106275054
The grate against the window on the left side has a bunch of jaggies on the 4k screenshot.

I'm going to see what 4k taa looks like.

>>106275054
genetics issue

>>106275089
I have perfect 20/20 vision, you are coping with your wasted money. No one needs more than 720p.

>>106275022
>>106275032
>another case of look at this screenshot
>instead of look at this game in motion

and this is 4k with TAA. probably the sharpest looking one.

>>106275022
>>106275032
There are people ITT really saying they cannot see the aliasing on that grating in the 4K image

These people are as blind as bats

>>106275107
I'm not going to make a lossles video and upload it to catbox for a random post on this website.
Going up to 4k res helps with motion clarity with TAA / DLSS since the extra res helps the algo generate the image.

>>106275117
well it is sort of a shitty picture. I was using steam screenshots.
I should really use MSI afterburner with .png images.
1440p without TAA looks is heavily aliased.

>>106275138
I run my favorite game at 130% screen scale (1872p downscaling to 1440p) just because the TAA implementation on the game is a blur fest.

So of course I just want more clarity from the higher res.

I have this pre-built https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16883151543?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-Wildfire+Systems&utm_source=afc-Wildfire+Systems&AFFID=3420415&AFFNAME=Wildfire+Systems&ACRID=1&ASUBID=WT19530870x59531297x&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2F&ranMID=44589&ranEAID=3420415&ranSiteID=Gl6mUn9YQ68-CBuWefSGUZ9GiXLUD63XLA and am considering upgrading to an AIO cooler. I haven't hit over 80 degrees running games yet, but generally seem to be in the mid 70s. According to chatgpt, the cooler is the one upgrade this pc could use due to i9-14900F cpu and I'm thinking it would be good for longetivity?
I've done a bit of research, it requires a 1700 LGA socket size and it's TDP is 65 watts for PL1 and 219 watts for PL2 (not entirely sure what that means).
The case has the following dimensions:
Front Max: 3 x 120 mm or 2 x 140 mm(3 x 120mm ARGB Fan included)
Top Max: 2 x 120 mm or 2 x 140 mm
Rear: 1 x 120 mm(1 x 120 mm ARGB Fan included)
I see that there's a lot of factors at play here, and according to some of the things I've been reading sometimes a cooler upgrade isn't always necessary?
Hoping someone may be able to point me in the right direction, I figure my options have to narrow a bit.

>>106275138
you can tell steam to save png screenshots

>>106274457
the best amd gpu is the 9070xt right now.
it is till an upgrade from the ancient 3070.

>>106273951
9600x is the cope option, go build yourself with an x3d, 265k/285k, or 14600k+used z690 board.
Also that case looks like an oven
>>106275022
>>106275032
It'll still be basically just as aliased even at 8k without aa btw. Like it or not TAA/DLSS/DLAA is mandatory now.

>>106275022
>>106275032
>>106275111
How much difference is there, in terms of money?

>>106274493
>>106274654
>>106274533
>>106275176
okay if AND doesn't make a GPU that's better than Nvidia's last gen, why are people here shilling them so hard?

>>106274319
paying more than $200 for an am4 cpu in 2025 is fucking retarded.

>>106275195
>It'll still be basically just as aliased even at 8k without aa btw. Like it or not TAA/DLSS/DLAA is mandatory now.

would 4k displayed on a native 4k display look better than 4k downscaled to a 1440p monitor?

My side monitor is actually 32" 4k i just never use it for gaming since it's 60hz.

how many of you have this issue where waking your pc up from sleep fucks up your color profile? i have finally found a solution
in task scheduler, go to windows > windowscolorsystem>calibration loader
add all of these triggers
you are free

>>106275168
they put a 1 fan aircooler on a i9-14900F? lol prebuilts

>>106275211
They are competitive at their price points. Not everyone wants or needs a $1k usd + gpu.

>>106275211
Because not everyone's shopping for a video card that costs over $1000.

>>106275211
We don't want the $1000 GPU
We want the $600 GPU they sell for $800-$900

>>106275236
that's adorable. You can push 500 watts to that puppy. You have to direct die it if you want to actually push it

>>106275235
the windows night light disables when I return from monitor turning off from idle, but not a full system sleep.

>>106275207
deus ex mankind divided is from August 23, 2016.
You can probably run it at 4k with 100 fps on a 3080 or equivalent card.

>>106275279
displaycal profile loader fixes night light not activating
those triggers might help too though

>>106275211
A cabal of youtube reviewers got mad that Nvidia told them to stop being niggers, so they just started shilling AMD as hard as they could.
Their nigger viewers parrot everything they say.
Hilarity and retardation ensue
9060xt is more of a 5060 competitor than 5060ti in terms of performance, 9070 costs more than the 5070, 9070xt you're at the same price or maybe -$50 a 5070ti.
I totally disagree with the sentiment that RDNA4 is good or even good for radeon, feature set (the real reason nvidia is 90% of the market) still total trash on amd

>>106275319
Yeah I don't care for the obese man and his crybaby videos. Just stop being fat

>>106274755
>>106274815
>>106274874
There is no hostility, Biden's chips act which he pushed near the end wasn't a handout but more of a rewards program, where companies had to show they met certain milestones to get the money. TSMC and Samsung were very happy to work with the government inspections to show they had met the milestones and so they immediately got the money offered to them, Intel refused to let government inspectors verify their shit so it took a long time for them to get any money. My guess is Intel saw Trump campaigning on build in america slogan and thought they could squeeze out more money out of the government without any requirements like others had before, but it backfired because Biden didn't bend and now Trump doesn't seem to give a fuck about them since Samsung and TSMC are both building more fabs and already making chips in the US.

>>106275319
this nigga thinks the 5070 is the 4090 LOL!

>>106275211
They've given up on competing on the high-end for this generation. So their best GPU is only mid-end. Even then, they're only competing in gaming. For anything else, Team Green gets better support and performance. (Except in Linuxland) At the moment, the only reason I can think of to go Radeon other than "it's cheaper" is if you're having problems with Nvidia's drivers.

>>106274806
that depends on physical size + res + distance to screen
always go with the highest res possible at the hz you desire at the best quality
simple as

>>106274933
sounds like you took the plasmatvforgaming pill and got yourself a 0-25$ free plasma tv
works sure but why

>>106274969
start using ppd not ppi

>>106275022
>>106275032
1440plets can't cope with their native res even they have to upres 4k+ to cope

>>106275104
that is below average vision you know

>>106275235
I was dealing with this on laptop when I disabled the nv gpu and forced to run radeon poo trash and it does not even have a gamma slider built into the software, which means I needed windows to calibrate the display shit and as you know it pops on and off at random, I don't remember if I still run this hack fix I did it too ages ago I think I do
still it pops on and off at random intervals and it's straight ass
if radeon software had a gamma slider I would not need to use this garbage to see my screen and save my battery but I can't

>>106272439
Do you have room to mount them on stands to the side of your desk? That would free up a lot of space.

>>106273866
skill issue
good driver, works hard, uses his brain, looks out for you.
but you come here and complain

>>106275408
you didn't answer the question.

How much money do I need to get a PC capable of beating the original Xbox One in performance (or at least being equal)?
This isn't a joke question, I've always been in poverty and my VCR XB1 was how I played games growing up. Got about $400 saved up for this. I don't mind playing games at 900p & 30fps, that's all I've ever known.

Is it worth getting 6400MT/s ram to run my 9800X3D at 1:1? Haven't bought ram yet

>>106275555
https://www.logicalincrements.com/ says you can get a modest system for 600 bucks. If you wait until black friday you could probably afford that maybe even a bit better if you cut back on some parts or buy used. I would suggest allocating 70% of your budget on the gpu/cpu and cheap out on the rest except for the PSU.

>>106275555
not much, say like a rtx 3060 and a 3700x would be way more powerful

>>106275432
I did

>>106275579
more effort is bad

>>106275579
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>>106275555
>How much money do I need to get a PC capable of beating the original Xbox One in performance
Less than $100. Old prebuilt and a quadro. Think the 750ti 4gb (K2200 Quadro) and a 4770 would beat the last gen even towards the end with games like Cyberpunk.
What might be a better idea would be like a 12100/13100 + used motherboard + 2060 super/2070/2070 super. That would actually beat the current gen consoles 99% of the time even before dlss, and you'd have an in socket upgrade to stay relevant for a while when you can afford it. Could probably do that for like $300 if you're smart with how/when you buy.
>>106275594
3060 and 3700x would be like Series X

2000 dollar pc + 1000 dollar monitor/tv or 3000 dollar pc + 200 dollar chink knock off monitor?

High-end PC's of old:
>This is what you need to play the newest video games on highest settings!
High-end PC's of today:
>This is what you need to generate AI hentai images and erotic chat bots the quickest!

>>106275679
>3000 dollar pc + 200 dollar chink knock off monitor?
This one. Cheap monitors are actually good now. In fact all cheap computer shit is actually pretty decent anymore. Good time to be a pc gayming poorfag contrary to the current popular narrative.
Local ai even can be done fairly competently on a Brazilian tier pc.

>>106275555
buy a steam deck

>>106275693
>AI hentai images
we're on to videos now bud

>>106275408
>1440plets can't cope with their native res even they have to upres 4k+ to cope

I've been on 1440p since 2013. I've been waiting for a legit 4k res 34" ultrawide to come out forever.

>>106275679
$200 monitor is torture.

>>106275780
How so? Pretty sure you can get 4k monitors these days for that much or close to it.

hey is there a good place to buy thermaltake psu cables that won't blow up my PC? need a new cable for my hard drives but don't want to spend a ton of money on cablemod. PSU is the TT GF1 750W gold

If I have two 5600mhz RAM sticks, then it is expected for them to run at like 2700mhz for clock and dram frequency per HWINFO and Speccy, correct, because the 5600 refers to their combined configuration not per stick, right?

Or is there something wrong?

I do also see that HWINFO lists 4 memory channels as being active, but I think that's like, the memory modules on each stick, right?

>>106275976
No that 5400. It's 200 mhz below.
The amount is irrelevant. 2x multiplier comes from Double Data Rate part of RAM. Same 2x multiplier for 1x, 2x, 4x, etc number of sticks.
> HWINFO lists 4 memory channels as being active,
Average Joe grade hardware only go up to dual channel so you are misunderstanding something.

>>106276029
Should I be worried about a 200mhz difference? I'm not really concerned about getting 1-2 extra frames in games or whatever, I'm running a 2x48gb 96gb kit for obscene internet tab usage and opening up gigapixel images. As long as it's not causing me to lose like 20% of my framerate or a similar hit to transferring files or something I don't really care too much.

Only reason I'm even checking this stuff is because I have read 64 and 96gb ddr5 sodimm kits can hit like 100-130 temps in laptops, but every benchmarking and hardware readout tool I can find won't read my RAM temps so I'm looking at other performance values to try to suss out if it's overheating or having stability issues

> so you are misunderstanding something.
I'm talking about pic related

Bros, I'm devastated
After upgrading to a QHD monitor, all media from my older build is basically useless now. Videos and other stuff open like a tiny window in this screen, it can't be

>>106276101
>>106276029
I should clarify that the clock speeds there in the hwinfo screenshot aren't under load, when idling like vary a lot, but under load with aidaa64 running both MCLK values stay around 2700-2790mhz and the UCLK values stay at 1390mhz.

Also, I the latency here in pic related is apparently really, really bad? Should I be worried about this? I did have my internet browser and a few other things running when I ran the test in aida64, but when I ran it again without those it only dropped to 100ns

Again, if it's just going to cost me a few frames I don't really mind, but if it's gonna cause a major preformance hit or suggests stability issues then I'd want to know

>>106276127
I've been dealing with this as well, I don't really mind this aspect necessarily, I don't need a giant screen and a 1080p windows on a 27in 1440p monitor is fine for me, but figuring out windows scaling shit and text sharpness while still having images etc load at their native size rather then being impacted by windows scaling has been a pain

>>106276154
>I did have my internet browser and a few other things running when I ran the test in aida64, but when I ran it again without those it only dropped to 100ns
i would say 100ns is pretty normal for a mobile CPU
aida already warned you that latency is going to be higher because you have all the retarded windows 11 "security" features enabled

>>106273745
Yes. Get 32" for optimal experience.

>>106276101
>Should I be worried about a 200mhz difference?
Nah. It wouldn't produce noticeable performance difference.
Plus, most (all?) laptop BIOSes won't let you change it anyway lol.
Loose timings for that speed but for browser and image use it doesn't matter.
>Only reason I'm even checking this stuff is because I have read 64 and 96gb ddr5 sodimm kits can hit like 100-130 temps in laptops, but every benchmarking and hardware readout tool I can find won't read my RAM temps
If Hwinfo64 doesn't show temps nothing will. In theory there ought to be a sensor sending data but in practice who knows.
Memory is rated to run hot. For DDR5 temps are nothingburger until 80s but 100-130 C would be bad I presume.
Not sure how it would get that hot though.
>I'm talking about pic related
I have no fucking clue why it says that. 2x48 is dual channel.

>>106276188
So memory latency is heavily impacted by your CPU?

Apologies if this is a dumb question, I don't know shit when it comes to PC benchmarking stuff

>because you have all the retarded windows 11 "security" features enabled

Other then windows defender, what are some examples of this?

>>106276154
>Also, I the latency here in pic related is apparently really, really bad? Should I be worried about this?
Perfectly fine for what you are doing.

>>106274457
AMD has nothing better to offer.

>>106276206
>So memory latency is heavily impacted by your CPU?
yes, of course
mobile CPUs clock down aggressively and power down inactive links when idle
3-4W is nothing on a desktop but it could let you watch videos for twice as long on a battery-powered laptop
>Other then windows defender, what are some examples of this?
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/options-to-optimize-gaming-performance-in-windows-11-a255f612-2949-4373-a566-ff6f3f474613

I VILL keep using Intel CPU + Nvidia GPU, i VILL NOT become RED

I want to get the Jonsbo D32, but man, the Terra is just such a beauty
The former is both cheaper and literally just a better case for airflow but the latter is so classy
My setup has wood so I'll likely stick with the Terra
Still torn though...

>>106276301
>52 "core" 16900k 500w+
>6090 600w+
We're gonna need 2kw PSUs asap.

So i bought a DDR5 RAM kit 2x16, Patriot Viper PVV532G600C36K.
I was looking to get a 9600x, so when i checked mobos i found an Asus TUF B650m wifi that looked good, and checking the RAM comp list the Patriot brand doesn't even appear
do you guys think it will cause problems to run at 6000mhz? what's a good mobo for the 9600x?

>>106276379
there are already 240v-only 2-3kw psus

>>106276379
Almost any DDR5 motherboard can run 6000MT/s CL36. You'll be fine.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND MOTHERBOARDS I HATE THEM SO MUCH. Every other piece of computer technology is so easy to figure out. But picking a motherboard is like picking out a specific black person at walmart midnight of the first of the month.
Lane sharing, usb this and that, pci works or doesn't sometimes but it's shared or turns off but if your wifi 7 is plugged into your express card than your usbs turn into fsbs. It's all gobbldygook. You have to download patches on flash drives and do preinstalls and use cmos buttons sometimes hidden like it's an ancient treasure. Watch out you can't use the god damn slots it comes with or you gimp your graphics card. Why is this shit so fucking stupid? I looked at the guides I looked at the google docs. Theres no way to figure out what shit is worth it. Why are there so many fucking versions from a billion manufacturers. Fuck me how did it get this way? It wasn't like this when I built my first computer 10 years ago.

>>106276470
its capitalism's fault
there would only be one motherboard if we had adopted communism

9950x3dkings, what do you do with such a powerful cpu?

>>106276559
Video editing for some e-whore hoping I get laid at the next twitchcon in return.

>>106276559
Compile Gentoo

>>106276470
>Lane sharing, usb this and that, pci works or doesn't sometimes but it's shared or turns off but if your wifi 7 is plugged into your express card than your usbs turn into fsbs. It's all gobbldygook
Your paranoid.
Lane sharing is blown out of proportion.
PCIe lanes aren't some shared pool that can just be reallocated anywhere. They are actually fixed to certain slots unless there is a device called a PCIe switch in-between them.

PCIe switches are expensive, you actually won't find them much on cheaper boards.
Board spec pages will list what happens to other slots when a given slot is occupied.
Your Wi-Fi or USB ports are never going to be disabled just because you used one two many M.2 slots.

>>106276559
>open task manager
>see 32 little boxes
>heh fucking sweet
>tab back to web browser

Wake me up when tandem OLED true RGB subpixel layout 4k 240hz monitors in & only in 24 to 27in come out. Fucking miss me on 32in and up, monitor size queen faggots. Sucks that we have no true Hi-PPI displays only Apple bothers to make them but no you have Redditards telling you that 4k is a wasteful resolution & don't get me started on the ugly ass plastic gamer aesthetic these companies still use to this day. At least Dough has options but you're taking a gamble with them

>>106274933
Stupid idiot you're an actual subhuman if you see nothing wrong with that combo of a monitor. Maybe if you were dealing with 12k. Don't give me your PPD bs either. Why do you want to have your "monitor" 10 feet back

>>106276734
Couch gaming is peak comfy.

>>106276741
Unless it's 8k+ it will be a subpar experience

>>106276730
Would you settle for 5K120Hz 27" QD-OLED?

https://x.com/phantomofearth/status/1956383744975114507

ALERT THE PRESSES
WINDOWS IS BASED AGAIN

>>106276751
No, maybe if we had 8090 levels of performance. 4k is perfect for now since it can do integer scaling since virtually all media is 1080p or 4k. Maybe if i was a pure gamer i'd consider it

>>106276772
>integer scaling
is a meme because almost no programs do that

>>106276379
>do you guys think it will cause problems to run at 6000mhz?
Unlikely
>good mobo for the 9600x?
Any somewhat decent B650/B850.

>>106276751
>5K120Hz 27" QD-OLED
Gonna be perfect for my 6090 ti

>Be Nvidia
>Make godlike 4090 and 5090, supreme cards which you can do anything you want with
>they melt
Worst company to ever exist

>>106276956
>Be Nvidia
>Make the best silicon
>Their PCBs that are unreliable garbage and are now forced down aibs throats
>Be AMD
>Make the best possible reference PCBs that can survive a nuclear disaster
>Their chips are hot and break randomly
You can't have everything

>>106276980
Why did the Demiurge do this

I've been looking into picking something up second-hand. Some locals are selling off desktops with Ryzen5 5600X, 16GB RAM,and RTX3060 for $600 each, good deal?
How much should I be concerned about the mobos and cooling?
I will likely beable to swap that 5600 with a Ryzen7 5700x3d later, am I guessing right?

Does rtx remix just like not work on newer drivers or what is happening here? Same thing in HL2 and Portal

I think I'm going to (read work is going to buy) a RTX 6000 pro, I'll stick that in my current PC and put it another room and I'll build a new system with my 5090. The 600 watt space heater is less than ideal in the summer...

>>106277143
What's your current PC?

>>106276762
took them only 5 years
any reaosn not to use unatttended w11 builds with nothing in it? the only thing I need is ssh client I guess and so that all the games work

>>106277129
portal rtx is working normally on 580.88 for me

Guys, why are my AMD drivers telling me to get Intel?

what pc case does he use

Thoughts on this list? Mostly planning to use it to play mostly older/indie games and sometimes more modern stuff.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tCbPBq
Aiming to keep it from going over the current $2580 AUD price.

>>106277153
I'd go AMD for the new CPU and pick ram that isn't needed for AI stuff, I can leave this ram in the machine with the RTX6000 card

>>106277617
With the integrated corner display, it looks like the HYTE Y70 Touch Infinite (don't google the price).

>>106277676
dayuum

Why does my ram get out of sync

>>106277676
did you think that fat faggot is smart with his money?

>>106277723
he has a look of fulfillment rarely seen among humans so I'd say yes

>>106277693
The crystals aren't in sync

>>106273302 (OP)
Man, my next PC will be ITX one. Tiny ones are so neat.

>>106277742
totally not faking it for the camera and his boyfriend.

>>106277770
why are you gaye

>>106277633
>Thoughts on this list? Mostly planning to use it to play mostly older/indie games and sometimes more modern stuff.
In your kangaroo market the 14600K has comparable gaming performance to the 9700X with slightly higher multi-threaded performance (thanks to all the E-Cores) for substantially less money plus you can use cheaper DDR4 RAM with it for additional savings. See benchmarks here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/27.html

Slightly overpaying for the SSD & choice of 9060 XT 16GB.
Although cases are still a personal choice, the Montech AIR 903 MAX is an objectively good budget case for thermals/noise with 4x included 120mm fans making it $100 AUD cheaper than the Antec option you picked out + extra fan pack.

The Phantom Spirit is slightly better than the Peerless Assassin for less money.

I took some the of the savings and bumped your monitor up from a 27" 1440p@180Hz to 27" 4K@160Hz
Fast-IPS panel which shouldn't be an issue since you mostly play older/indie games anyway while letting you appreciate games/content and your general desktop/text with much better sharpness/less aliasing thanks to the higher pixel density.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m27u


Edited PCPP Suggestion (feel free to keep the 1440p monitor or OG case): https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZXRmTM
Even with the 4K gaming monitor upgrade included, that's still $428 AUD saved under your budget.

>>106277800
>>106277633
Another option if you weren't keen on 4K but still wanted a nice splurge in image quality for indie/older games would be the Gigabyte MO27Q2 27" 1440p@240Hz QD-OLED:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amgk7w1WX7I

Which is the cheapest OLED gaming monitor in your market and still would bring you under $2500 AUD like so: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/3wqZTM
Once you game with perfect contrast, colors, and 0 ms response times it's a night-and-day change:

Give it to me, how bad did I fuck up?
>tried to save on DDR4
>ended up not saving anything at all
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ms8tfd
As a Balkan slav, everything is at huge markup compared to EU & US. 7800X3D is $630 here.

>>106277895
book a trip to russia, we have 9800x3d for $475 here

>>106277910
You also have mogilization, anal rape and no internet, so I'll pass.

>>106277918
understandable

>>106277895
You did ok
That board is extortionately priced though wth. I bought my brand new am5 b650 board last year for only $190

>>106277895
Honestly you did about as good a job and I would given the local market hand you were dealt. Enjoy.

>>106277931
>That board is extortionately priced though wth.
All Intel mobos are terribly overpriced here. You can't get anything decent under €230/$270. With AM5 it is better yes, but then the X3D CPUs are terribly overpriced.
>You did ok
>>106277947
Thanks, anons!

>>106277895
Hard to critique without local market knowledge but it's fine enough in the broad strokes.
Here's some notes/corrections:
>Cooler
Will struggle under 100% load. Not an issue for gaming but get something bigger if you do frequent all-core work.
>Mobo
Expensive, even considering the market*, but okay if you need some specific features.
>RAM
EECM
>SSDs
Splitting them like this is bad value. It's a fine decision for backups or OS changes but then there's no need to buy a primo drive for your game/media storage.
>PSU
EECM

*Hereafter abbreviated as EECM

>>106277975
>Will struggle under 100% load.
It was 77°C before I undervolted and set power states. 61°C after.
>but okay if you need some specific features.
Yeah I wanted ALC1220 audio codec, those don't come on cheaper mobos. This was the cheapest in fact.
>RAM
When I was planning it, better value kits were available. But they all got fucking sold out the moment I acquired the mobo kek. There was 32GB GSKill 3600C18 that was like $90.
>game/media storage.
It's game only storage, I have HDD for media. I've only installed like 8 games and 1TB is gone already.
>for backups
It's exactly for that, yes.
>PSU
It's the cheapest ATX 3.x I could find here. I wanted one with fancy new power connectors for 4070 GPU.

>>106273394
>late answer
Because it caters to a very specific subset of mental boomers who actually care to spend money on such retro aesthetics. The vast, vast majority do not give a shit and want wide open glass sides instead.

>>106277998
>It was 77°C before I undervolted...
That's good. Especially if it didn't need 100% fan speed to get there. I guess I underestimated it.

>I wanted ALC1220 audio codec
Would probably have been cheaper to buy a lesser board and a USB DAC but what's done is done.

>It's game only storage...
Yeah that's my point. Top tier NVMes don't reduce your loading times so you can save money with a more modest drive.

>It's the cheapest ATX 3.x I could find here
Ouch.

>>106278041
>Especially if it didn't need 100% fan speed to get there
Yeah it was at 1200RPM max, fans go up to 1800 I believe. It's a good cooler, I think custom Intel bracket serves it well.
>cheaper to buy a lesser board and a USB DAC
I considered that also. Picrelated are available PCI/USB DAC here and they're all worse than ALC1220 in one way or another.
>save money with a more modest drive.
Well I was scared of DRAM-less and went for Samsung Pro for games since I've had their SATA SSD in the past and they were good. Kingston is the cheapest dram-less 500GB.
>Ouch.
Yeah, there's also Corsair RM750x but it costs literally the same as ASUS TUF 850W, so.

Why is finding motherboards with multiple PCIe 5.0 x16 slots nearly impossible with spending $500+ These cocksuckers rip you off so much with PCIe slots.

>>106278093
For once, it's not motherboard makers fault since amd and intel CPUs only have 24 to 28 gen5 CPU lanes to spare

>>106276154
Your timings are insanely sloppy. CL45? I'm running my memory underclocked to keep voltages down at 5600MHz and my CL is 30.This is just a cheap memory kit too, not some super high end top tier one.

>>106278093
>>106278104
They cheap out on everything nowadays. A $300 mobos habitually have shitty ALC987 audio.

>>106278104
Even at 24 CPU lanes that's enough for:
- S1: PCIe 5.0 x16 (x16 by itself, x8 when S2 is used)
- S2: PCIe 5.0 x16 (x8 mode)
- S3: PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2
hell you could throw one more x4 M.2 in there

>>106278067
>Kingston is the cheapest dram-less 500GB.
*Cheapest 500GB NVME with DRAM cache

>>106278144
Chipset takes at least 4 lanes

>>106276570
You won't, stop coping.

>>106278144
There are x16/x0<->x8/x8 boards but you got to pay extra for that since dynamic lane switching requires more PCB layers and pcie switch chips.

>>106275232
downscaling it to 1440p just means you're effectively doing supersamped anti-aliasing

>RTX 5090 32 GB is worth ₹426,769
>HP Omen 45L pre-built is worth ₹492,199
why should I built?

>>106278346
+1 reply

>>106278346
Do needful and redeem 5090 dhahab edition sar

>>106276762
windows file transfer is pathetically terrible and so is windows file explorer.
You are one of the braindead lemmings that think getting a dark skin does anything. kys

>>106276751
That sounds great especially if it has a dual mode at 1440p like the 32" acer monitor.

>>106277617
imagine the goon cave this man could create.

>>106278093
>multiple PCIe 5.0 x16
x8/x8 is the best you are going to get.

The extra pcie lanes are a server/hedt feature.

>>106278346
so many of these expensive pre-builts are dog shit.
Gamer dorito dust Jesus (nexus) has reviewed many of them that are $4000+.

>wake up
>check what's up
>10 months later pg32ucdm still hasn't dipped down to that all time low it was during that time
>people on the used market are using the cheapest monitor with the same panel to compare and justify lowering sale pricing on superior monitors that don't have the mandatory 16hour pixel refresh
>they don't even know
>oled monitor makers are fucking us all over and they don't even know it too
>xg27ucdm back on a "sale" price
>higher than it was some weeks ago

>>106278584
any reason why you need to go for an assus monitor? alienware has the same pixel refresh policy and has real sales from time to time

>>106278622
only time alienware was price competitive here was in the beginning when there was no other displays, now prices have come down even more and alienware has not even moved
>no usb-c dp alt
>fan
>curved
>no 3.5mm
>various other osd/features

After being retarded I need a new mouse - is the G pro wireless still considered the best for mice in that general size? I need at least two side buttons.

>>106278703
there's a fuckton of cheaper chink mice with great sensor and switches now, choose something from mchose for example

>>106278712
Okay - any particular stand out model I should use as the starting point for my research?

>>106278755
check eloshapes for the one that matches your g pro shape for example

>>106278682
huh interdasting
i didnt know they were still putting a fan in those after removing the gsync module

how bad really is rtx 5070? I'm in the us, nyc, on a business trip, so i was thinking of buying one since they're 30% cheaper than back home in europoor

right now i have rx 6600, and i wanted to try nvidia this time because i've been team red since ati radeon 9200

>>106278839
why not increase the savings and buy a 5090

my max budget is $550 since I don't really play games that much. Realistically, an rx 6600 is more than enough for me, but I'd like to use this opportunity to buy a much better gpu that I'll use to generate three ai images and then forget about

should i get amd or nvidia for a linux server ?

usecase would be video transcoding and llm inference, stable diffusion etc

maybe gaming in a vm

>>106278912
fuck, meant for
>>106278886

>>106278914
nvidia

>>106278919
You usually want higher vram gpu for ai shit
I guess some AI image applications require <10gb but it generally limits things

Get a 5070 ti, its good enough to run some games with path tracing at 1440p

>>106273302 (OP)
Guys, which case should I get if I greatly enjoy crossdressing and handling dicks in every direction but I'm not gay and I just don't want to put it in a woman?

>>106278968
this website is 18+

>>106278968
Any fishtank style case with ARGBT+ fans

>>106277800
>ddr4

>>106278934
i agree that 5070 ti would be the best choice, but it is 200€ over my budget. I guess i'll just bite the bullet and buy regular 5070 since i wont find anything better in that price range

>>106279065
just eat rice for a week, don't be a filthy vramlet

>>106279065
the 5070 is a fine card, no need to go over budget to generate AI slop

>>106277800
As a >>106277895
Get an ASUS motherboard, they are more stable with DDR4 and more importantly, they have better bios/more options. Telling you this as Gigabyte owner.
>thermalright
You can get away with Arctic Freezer 36, it is completely enough and it comes with their custom CPU frame that doesn't bend CPU heatspreader in the long run. It is enough in my testing even without undervolting or setting PL states, which you should do on 14600K. Telling you this as 14600K owner. >>106277998
>3200 CL16
Any reason not to go for 3600 CL16 instead? I know you can probably overclock it, but kits with better XMP are hardly more expensive.

Also for the price you are already paying, you might not save anything compared to DDR5 mobo and DDR5 kit. So consider something like ASUS B760 & DDR5 6000 CL30 instead.

>PowerColor
I would not cheap out on GPU manufacturer. Get something more reputable, ASUS, Sapphire etc.

>MSI MAG
Corsair RM750X would be better, for same price.

speaking of gpu vendors is there really any reason to be picky these days since they only make the radiator basically?
unless it's some extreme case with gigabyte and leaky goo for example

>>106277800
>>106279167
>Get an ASUS motherboard
But keep in mind that older ASUS mobos might not have 14th gen Intel support out of the box or have ability to flash from USB without supported CPU. One of the things that stopped me from buying is lack of retail shops that can flash the ASUS bios mobo for me. Gigabyte has that Qflash thing where you can flash bios without CPU or RAM, from a USB stick.

Only high-end ASUS motherboards have this option.

>mATX
I would recommend ASUS ROG STRIX B760-G GAMING if you can find it. It has good onboard audio and everything else you would need. It can be flashed without supported CPU too.

>>106279167
PowerColor is a good AMD manufacturer though, the two best are Sapphire and PowerColor imo. ASUS doesn't honor their warranties.

>>106279194
>PowerColor is a good AMD manufacturer though
Well I might be out of touch with ATI manufacturers. My last Radeon was MSI R9 270x, and before that I think I had Gigabyte 6850, Palit 4870 and Sapphire 4850. I liked Sapphire the most, it had that nice Zalman copper cooler and blue PCB.

>>106279194
I'm staunchly FUCK ASUS since their 290x coolers.

Fellas, I'm currently sporting a gtx 1660 ti and want to upgrade. Should I cop a year old msi rtx 4070 ventus 2x for 450 euros or dish out some more and get a new 5070 ti?

>>106279183
They don't just make the heatsink. They also make the PCB, BIOS, fans, you know things that make the GPU work and not shit.

>>106278703
ultralight 2 for the usbc meme + they updated the switches so I guess it does not double click anymore
that or the viper v3 pro or whatever are the standard bitch mice availible anywhere?
or the new china mice might be good too

>>106278811
they need the cooling because oled memes + hdr if they don't have good enough heat sinks I guess
LG 32" 4k one also has a fan for example
can't think of any one else that runs fans

>>106279078
gruelslopmaxxing leads to economical powers few even can imagine

>>106279273
wait for the supers

>>106275211
>>106274457
If you're seriously upgrade from a 3070 and want AMD, then a 9070 will outperform it by a lot. The 5070 is going for about $50 cheaper but underperforms compared to the 9070 (with raytracing being the only exception but we all already know that).
>>106275211
To put is simply:
>9070 XT is within 5 to 10 FPS of the 5070 TI and very close in price, making the 5070 TI worth it over the 9070 XT.
>9070 typically outperforms the 5070 by over 20 FPS, while being about $50 more than the 5070, making the 9070 generally more worth it over the 5070 (unless raytracing but you're not going to get great FPS with GPUs at this price range).
>9060 XT (get the 16gb version) is about $70 cheaper than the 5060 TI (also 16gb, don't bother with the 8gb version) while having about 5 to 10 FPS less than the 5060 TI (16gb).
I really don't see the point in buying Nvidia at less than $600. They just don't have anything competitive in this range at all.

>>106279356
9070xt is 30% faster under RADV and actually works on Windows as in you can complete a CS2/Valorantcompetitive match without DXGI error, black screen, or whatever showstopper bug Nvidia currently has not resolved.

>>106259009
>upgrade hardware & driver
>start getting eye strain
>sleepy after hour of using the PC
>start digging
>restore old windows to separate drive to check Nvidia inspector profile

Turns out I'm a retard and decade old color profiles got stuck in display properties. I don't even own those Philips anymore. Somehow after upgrading drivers & restoring windows boot from UEFI/Secure fuck up, those profiles got enabled.

>>106273348
Cheaper and more vram. 5070 only exists to upsell you a 5070ti

>>106273348
The 5060 TI seems best if you're specifically after AI image gen and LLM use, otherwise why would you even bother with it over the 9060 XT 16gb?
The 5070 is just not worth it.

Quick question: When was the last time you looked at anything Rosewill?

>B580 $250 at local microcenter
>used 3080 $350
what should i go with bros?

>>106275693
The high-end PC of today can do both.

>>106279841
That's a bang-average ATX 3.x PSU (Andyson OEM), I wouldn't use it to power anything better than a 5070.

Is this thing good enough for 5070Ti?

>>106279997
Yeah, a 750 watt PSU can handle it pretty well. I'd prefer an 850 watt for the extra overhead but 750 will do fine.

>>106279841
my previous case was a rosewill case. it was fine until i got a 400w gpu then i needed better airflow.

>>106279693
how does this cause eye strain?

>>106280057
Blue light emission.

>>106279369
why does the best CS2 player in the world, donk, use an RTX 4080 super?

>>106275780
At that price you can get a decent 1440p 27" IPS 144+hz monitor
it wasn't *that* long ago that for this kind of price you still found 24" 1080p TN 60-75hz garbage
even a basic IPS monitor is so many lightyears ahead of this crap it's not even funny

is it true that
>4th Gen Intel Core i9-14900K
is botchy?
should I go for Intel Core Ultra 9 285K?

>>106280211
people have their own reasons for still using windows despite it being vastly inferior

>>106280240
whats the use case
intel is generally only a winner in laptop productivity space

>>106280243
but you claimed NVIDIA was unusable for CS2?
why do the best players in the entire world rely on GeForce RTX?

>>106280245
I'm buying a pre-built because it's costing me less than building a PC of my own
afraid so

>>106280251
just because we're all Anonymous doesn't mean we're the same.

again again people have their own reasons for still using windows/geforce despite it being vastly inferior.

people will jack off to passing 2 timespy runs but crash every single valorant run

>>106280243
does the retard making this video not realise winget exists
you can just open powershell and winget Firefox

>>106280255
buy a 9800x3d prebuilt for gaming then

>>106280263
every top counterstrike player in the world relies on GeForce RTX to get them the frames that matter in competitive games like CS2, they’ve all clearly rejected Radeon for a reason

>>106280266
Winget sources are years out of date. Also, the point is that Linux is snappy. Windows is the opposite of snappy with NTFS, NT kernel, not even using your 9800X3Ds v4 optimizations.

>>106280276
plainly disingenuous cope

>>106280275
do they even manage their own machines? they dont. the esports venue does which is by the sponsor (intel/nvidia). intel is garbage but whatever. so is nvidia but you get the point.

Is the 7800X3D worth 80 bucks more the price over the 7600X3D when all you do is gaming and only pair it up with a GPU in the range of the RTX5060Ti?

>>106280281
You can't refute so you act like a lil bitch

>>106280282
their home PCs are listed in esports database, the two best players, donk and zywoo, have chosen an RTX 4080 super and RTX 3080 to drive their personal machines
for the top competitors, GeForce RTX matters

Link me to some recommended air blowers to dust off my PC, I only have compressed air but I've been reading that they're not good for PC cleaning.

My cousin gave me a hand-me-down 3090. This is my current rig: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/TothBrush/saved/DRLWf7

Now that I've upgraded my cpu+motherboard+gpu I've got an old 6600K, z170 motherboard, and gtx 1070 lying around as well as a PC case (classic white s340) and I'm curious what you'd all recommend to quickly and cheaply shit out a spare 2nd PC for use as a server or whatever other shit I feel like doing.

1. Why the FUCK can't I buy a huge fat thick cheap cpu heat sink without paying for the fans attached to it? I'd rather pay 20 dollars for the heat sink and slap my own fans on it than pay 40 for like a 140mm peerless assassin
2. what's the go-to cheap ddr4 ram, power supply, and monitor for a spare pc?

I might just troll facebook marketplace for crappy used stuff to get it up and running

>>106278123
Is there a mobo with good Audio? I haven't seen a non realtek mobo in years at this point
Also
>When can we add more VRAM chips to an ectension or the GPU, so that our expansion card has an expansion card to do AI
>Fiber optic PCIe when
>3D/ 3D cooling of Chips/PCBs when?

>>106280251
It's called not updating your drivers and staying on the ones that work

>>106279189
>But keep in mind that older ASUS mobos might not have 14th gen Intel support out of the box or have ability to flash from USB without supported CPU. One of the things that stopped me from buying is lack of retail shops that can flash the ASUS bios mobo for me. Gigabyte has that Qflash thing where you can flash bios without CPU or RAM, from a USB stick
lol this surprised me when i got a TUF Z790
i just assumed it would have BIOS flashback like every single other motherboard in 2025
it managed to boot a 14700K with the included BIOS but it said it was running at 3400 MHz and 1.68 Vcore
if you don't know you're supposed to update the BIOS and kept it running like that the CPU would die in a week

>>106280307
Just use your hair dryer.

>>106278123
>>106280341
Mobos don't even need audio, USBsoundcard are dirt cheap, even those $10 USB audio adapters meant for phones will work with any PC to give you better audio than anything any mobo might have or past mobos might have ever had.

And that's just scratching the surface of audio.

>>106280314
Heres a list of stuff that'll work for your 6600K.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NCDWqH
Also, why are you looking for a heatsink without fans? Your system (Both the 5700x and 6600K) don't need a particularly big heatsink for good, quiet cooling. $20 will get you something that'll work great.

>>106280487
Except Valve multiplayer games encourage you to get the latest graphics drivers.
Valve is focued on Linux compatibility because that's where they can guarantee Steam's 30% cut in the long run. It's the most profitable business move.
Radeon/Linux gaming shills are always bitching about the trillion dollar NVIDIA, except they're the worst corporate fanboys.

>>106280307
you're not going to like this but literally just wash your PC with water. Take it apart and just hose it off. The only thing about water that can harm your PC is minerals in the water (use distilled water) and short circuits due to actual power running through the machine. If you simply turn off the power supply and unplug it from the wall you can literally shower with it and then dry it off with a day in front of a fan.

I know this is true because in highschool my friends and I would take our PCs to school and then hose them down in front of other people as a joke and then take them home and play video games together with ecahother.

P.S. if you're serious about keeping your PC cool then start filtering the dust out of your room BEFORE it hits your PC. Get some MERV13 2" 20"x20" filters and a box fan (pic related) and run it 24/7. It'll suck your home dry of every single dust particle that matters. You can also use a gay HEPA filter form amazon but that's gay.

pic related is a Corsi-Rosenthal box

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>>106280532
>>106280532
>>106280532

>>106280307
Compressed air should be fine, what you want to avoid is air devices that can blow ions onto your gear and cause harmful ESD discharges.
Hair dryers are a huge NO, hence no one in their right mind uses those.

A safe alternative is cotton swabs or pads soaked in 80-99% isopropyl alcohol (might be called "isopropanol" as well, it's the same thing). Circuitry assembly and repair tends to take this stuff to clean off solder flux residues. It is fine for cleaning up dirty PCBs/mobos, too.

>>106280512
USB audio has more latency and an ALC1200/ALC1220 with proper shielding will beat any $10 audio adapter
this is an outdated reddit meme

>>106280563
>USB audio has more latency
latency you'll never notice, schizo

>>106280578
maybe you won't
but if you're on windows it doesn't really matter anyway because the system mixer adds 35ms on top of everything

>>106280314
just buy used, your cpu/mbo will probably not even support new 3600Mhz DDR4 RAM. just get some older, cheaper 2666 Mhz ram and overclock that as much as you're able.

>>106280093
from a color profile? lol

>>106280524
>Except Valve multiplayer games encourage you to get the latest graphics drivers.
Yes, everything does, that doesn't make it correct. There are gorillions of people complaining about having problems with their Nvidia drivers and rolling them back and then everything working fine. If drivers just work then they just work. Being "outdated" means nothing.

>>106280665
CS2 just had one of the largest performance improvement patches in its history.
Retards like you can continue to FUD about NVIDIA display drivers.
https://steamdb.info/patchnotes/19602992/

The drivers are good enough for HWUnboxed Steve, who loves to make content shitting on RTX cards, to build a 5080 gaming PC for his daughter.

>>106280282
amd did/does not work for esports, as Jewfus said
if you bought a 6900XT you could not play the most popular zogslop game Warzone for TWO YEARS before they patched the drivers that fixed the game
but yeah now things might be different or not, plus 5000 series has worse drivers and bugs compared to 4000 series, even Jewfus says that as he gets mid-stream crashes and gets trolled by TechYes
NV put their entire driver team to the AI team, it's over

>>106280563
Opinion on 4080(or something 40 somesuch)

>>106280874
it's an ALC1220 connected internally through USB instead of PCI/HDA
many users report issues with crackling audio
avoid if you can

>>106280959
Cool, I'm flip flopping between MSI b650 tomahawk or gaming plus b850
B850 uses the ALC897 with PCIe 5.0
B650 uses the 4080 with 6 Sata ports, same price
Old mATX B650s are half the price of both btw
I'm assuming they are worth it since features and cooling
Paiting with 7500f and cheap GPUs with fuckloads of storage devices and Ansys usage

>>106281333
idk if i would go for an ALC897 either if you care about sound quality, i assume it's mostly down to motherboard design and routing but i had an ALC897 on a TUF B450 and that did genuinely sound bad
both ALC1200 and ALC1220 have been very good to me though
you could just get the $10 apple USB-c adapter that everyone on reddit shills and not worry about it, but good motherboard audio is better than a $10 adapter

>>106278839
It's good in current market meta if you can get at MSRP. Wait fags will tell you to wait