Thread 106358745

Why is linux so user unfriendly?

Linux communities likes when easy things are hard so they can feel smart doing them

The things that are hard in linux are impossible in windows.
>rossmann
I don't wanna hear the opinion of an unironic gentoo user.

>>106358745 (OP)
To filter normies.

>>106358745 (OP)
TO
FILTER
OUT
THE
RETARDS

>>106358745 (OP)
>Why is linux so user unfriendly?
because this is the only way to gate keep it from normies.
the worst thing that happend in Linux history was when that normie faggot pewdiepie released his Mint video.
the 3 big gate keepers Linux has are
>driver issues
>user unfriendly
>compatibility problems
[spoiler]>it's not windows[/spoiler]

>>106358745 (OP)
Because Linux is not made for the "end user" in the first place. This is the answer. Linux is made by a grouping of people each working on their own projects which are useful or interesting to themselves and that's it. Some dude has a need of some program or feature, so he makes it because he wants to use it, but also makes it free for others out of the goodness of his heart. But he has no incentive to make this into a program for the "end user" since he just made something he had a need for, then let others use it just in case they need it. If I write a program for myself, it's going to solve my problem and be easy for ME to use, but I'm not going to spend time on optimizing it for the "end user" because my goal is solving my own problem, not opening some end-user software business.

Desktop Linux is made out of these kinds of programs. Nobody is worrying about the "end user" or what he needs. You even see this in major projects like Gnome which get actual funding from various places, so they're not just some dude writing something he needs for himself, where a user may ask for a reasonable feature for a reasonable use case but some trashmongler on the dev team tells him he doesn't actually need that.

>>106358754
>>106358796
>>106358826
>>106358828
macOS doesn't have this problem

>>106358745 (OP)
Because nobody is being paid to implement REALLY REALLY REALLY boring features and maintain them for 10+ years, so there is no feature or the contributors disappear and everything is broken. Money is important for developing good software MOST of the time in MOST situations

>>106358828
use case for end users?

>>106358839
MacOS is for normies, not for filtering them. It is a containment zone for normies.

>>106358839
it still has
>compatibility problems
>it's not windows
>overpriced

>>106358745 (OP)
Okay, so you have to spend 5 minutes reading the xrandr manual and another minute or so adding the xrandr commands to your .xinitrc file. Is this supposed to be a big deal, or is it just more "command line bad, GUI good" type retardation?

Unironically everyone would be better off if we went back to Internet devices being hard to use which functioned as a natural IQ filter. Normies would be happier because they'd go back to living in the real world, and nerds would be happier since the Internet would no longer be flooded by retards.

Reminder that this wounded animal makes this thread several times a day.

>>106358745 (OP)
Linux is a server OS, not a desktop one.

>>106358745 (OP)
linux = the internet before the iphone let normies, jews and jeets destroy the internet

itoddler/winjeet shit = the internet after the iphone let normies, jews and jeets destroy the internet

>>106358745 (OP)
Apple's approach to their products+services is "Let us handle the difficult stuff, you enjoy the simplicity". That's fine with Apple because they are commited to it and created infrastructure that provides their customer support beyond just selling a laptop with an OS (with a price obv, but it's there). You can't get anyone to do that for Linux.

It doesn't sit right with me when Linux user just say
>yea, a lot of Linux is shit but that's fine because it filters normalfags
Yes, it does filter them, but the software is still shit. I want the software I write to be good, don't you?

>>106358745 (OP)
Are you getting Linux mixed up with LFS and Gentoo?

>>106359679
sounds like you were filtered

>>106358745 (OP)
Who cares about some random twitter user?

>>106358745 (OP)
- icharger it's has to work with my airbook
Mac users basically assume nothing outside apple works for them.
Only the 1% technical "elite" use homebrew, the rest are airheaded retards.

I think it's great that majority of linux distros include MAN-docs, albeit some of the friendly have dropped the first install introductionaries with came with a beginner manual and friendly advice.

>>106358745 (OP)
Linux is friendly, but it's very specific about who its friends are.

>>106358745 (OP)
Developers in general tend to be user averse, but FOSS doesn't have project managers softening the blow

>>106358745 (OP)
> use linux
> plug in second monitor
> turns on instantly and is instantly usable
> it just works

>>106358745 (OP)
Why is becoming a chef more complicated than buying a Big Mac?

>>106358745 (OP)
>Why is linux so user unfriendly?

Because computers are complex machines that by default demand high technical understanding. The fact that current mainstream trend is to lock users in more and more limited spaces for their "safety and convenience" is not the problem of Linux.

>>106360110
i remember when this was temporarily broken in ubuntu for awhile and i used to shiltalk my coworker when he would plug his laptop into the meeting room kiosk

>>106358745 (OP)
>that everyone knows how to use
The last time I used Mac OS nothing made sense and I hated every second of it.

>>106358745 (OP)
Why is your brain?

>>106358745 (OP)
He is right, there really needs to be a normie distro that just works. Installation process needs to be easier. When normies see a bios menu they panic.

>>106358745 (OP)
>Why is linux so user unfriendly?
Linux is an infrastructure solution first foremost and primarily.

The operating systems that live on top of linux tend to be user unfriendly because they don't have 40+ years of investment in improving UX.

>>106358745 (OP)
>linux is the thing in my head
idiot

>>106358947
typical

>>106358745 (OP)
Why does video encoding for intel hardware not work out of the box on Linux?

Why do I need to install intel-media-va-driver-nonfree package because it's not installed by default on Ubuntu and Debian?

Why do I need to modify kernel boot parameters to load GPU firmware to use hardware accelerated video encoding?

Why is none of this done by default?

Why is literally everything in Linux like this? Bad defaults and anti-user design choices. It's like they want nothing to work out of box unless you spend 12 hours reading, installing, and configuring shit.

And the battery power management... Nothing works properly out of the box.

>>106360791
because it's not meant to be. ideally every distro would be personally tailored lfs.

>>106360791
>why does proprietary slop isn't parasiting linux!?
>why does a greedy company isn't supporting a second OS?
Now try to uninstall telemetry/IE/useless slop from Windows. None of those are technical problems but the result of IP restrictions.

OP confuses me. We've had graphical display settings for forever?

I of course use Arch Linux & i3 but I hope people aren't unironically suggesting that to normies.

>>106358745 (OP)
>>106358806
to filter niggers

>>106360584
I love/hate Factorio so much it's unreal.

>>106358806
>>106358825
>>106358826
Daily driving linux doesn't make you the kind of intelligent person you think you are, retard.

>>106358745 (OP)
>parsing a xrandr command on startup to make a second monitor work
I've been using Linux since 2001 and never done this

>>106358825
Exactly

>>106361162
The only time I tried xrandr was after buying a shitty video cable that couldn't send the metadata related to compatible resolution×refresh rate. In theory xrandr would allow me to override the recommended settings but it didn't work anyway, video cables are trash, they aren't really 'universal'

>>106361137
It does though

>>106358839
Why does linux live rent free in the fagOS head?

>giving a shit what rossmann says beyond right to repair
lol
lmao even

>>106361202
The only times i really fiddled around with xrandar was when i tried several VMs with Gui and it was set to weird resolutions

I've never used xrandar on any of my devices in the past 20-25 years. There was also some sort of display settings tool somewhere, either built in or seperately shipped by the distro

>>106358745 (OP)
>have to parse xrandr to make secondary monitor work
>fix it
Anon, I don't have this problem...
>NO! NOT LIKE THAT!!

LMDE just werks doe

>>106361237
It doesn't though.

>>106358745 (OP)
its been easier than windows for years
I dont know shit and installed it on old pc - it just worked out of the box and was easier and quicker to setup than any windown
you only need to learn and read anything if you want to customize or have some really incompatible hard/soft

>>106358745 (OP)
Most things in linux just work so idk what this idiot is talking about.

Linux is made by aspies for aspies

>>106358745 (OP)
>everyone knows how to Apple
>ask Apple user to print a document (they have a printer)
They can't do it. Or any task you ask them to do actually.
>>106358839
mac fags can't do anything on their phones/laptops except use a fucking internet browser. They have never touched a single application or OS feature outside of webshit.

>>106358947
Mac fags are the dumbest people on the planet. Genuinely brain damaged to the point they spend 24x7 reposting xitter man.
lol

>>106358825
Unironically why linux is so good while the internet goes to shit

As a linux user, no other OS requires me to create uvcvideo.conf file in some "obscure" directory and type in `options uvcvideo quirks=0x100` so my Logitech C920Pro camera would work out of the box on boot

>>106358745 (OP)
>parse an xrandr command
I used arandr and arranged my screens as I wanted them using a GUI. Then I saved the layout as a script and put it on a hotkey (shift+F12). I did not parse a single command to get my second monitor to work.
Looks like a skill issue on your side.

>>106358745 (OP)
Who cares? Based Elon will make MuckOS, Wienerdows, and Troonix obsolete with Macrohard.

>>106362348
The average user does not have the skill, isn't interested in obtaining the skill and SHOULDN'T obtain the skill to make something as simple as a multi-monitor setup to work.
The same way you don't know how to manufacture your own dentures

>>106362410
wtf lol, how is opening a GUI a skill? Are zoomers really this much off?

>>106362421
There are 10 simple steps to create dentures, and they are analogous.
Way easier than creating scripts and putting them on a hotkey, and while mentioning hotkeys, why would I need to press a hotkey so my monitors would work, no other OS requires me to do it?

>>106362453
I didnt create a script, idiot. It's what arandr saves, xrandr scripts.
>why would I need to press a hotkey
Because I have different monitor setups using 1, 2 and 3 monitors depending on whim and which device to display on which one.

>>106358745 (OP)
WAD closed as cantfix

i dual boot w10 for vr shit and endeavour for everything else. Windows is the single most piece of user unfriendly software i have ever experienced in my fucking life. If you have ever had to do anything other than use windows as a facebook or steam machine its nightmareish and feels like its constantly fighting you for one reason or another.
>forgot to turn off hibernation and fast boot in windows
>load endeavor
>oh no, oh god oh fuck :(((((
>windows shits ittself and refuses to load like a temperamental baby or completely gibs your other install because it forces itsself onto other places where it doesnt belong
fixing actual problems in windows is fucking aids and 9/10 forum posts lead to ranjesh with 12k posts telling you to just reinstall for a BT driver error

>>106362421
Yes. They want a big phone app with round corners and touch control. Oh, and no filesystem since they have no concept of directories.

>>106362674
phones mog computers for most tasks
stop shilling for bill gates

>>106358745 (OP)
C and unix set the stage for it.
Sloppy undocumented and autistic is the moto linux inherited from it.

>>106362717
i used a touchscreen chromebook at college and i did all my assignments under my blankie while munching on noodles and tendies

that's the future of computing not hunched over in some smelly coom cave with ten different screens

only vr headsets sound better

>>106358745 (OP)
It's because autism impairs theory of mind. Those who are autistic enough to use it are incapable of understanding why it is difficult for those who aren't.

My Linux dream feature is software that could detect whether the user is new to all and then, in no uncertain terms, tell them to go fuck off.

My Linux dream feature is software that could detect whether the user is new to all this and then, in no uncertain terms, tell them to go fuck off.

>>106358825
Well it didn't work since I'm using it

>>106361413
I don't think Windows users understand how well their intuition of how Windows works is. I don't think my understanding of Linux is much better than your average Windows gamer's understanding of Windows, and I have maybe one technical problem per year and just fix it in five minutes through intuition. I've never had trouble connecting a second monitor or installing Steam or any of these things that people somehow struggle with. People need to accept they'll have to spend a year or two as grandma doing a Google search for google.com and that that says nothing about Linux's ease of use.

>>106358745 (OP)
I've always considered this to be a good explanation of what "user friendly" really means.
https://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/userfriendly/1

>>106360113
>food analogy
Imagine being so fat you look at OSes and see food.

>>106358745 (OP)
doesn't matter anymore.
valves work to legitimise linux gaming and Red Hats work to commercialise it has left a very usable OS.
the biggest problem for user friendliness is bad defaults in DEs, but if you know how to RTFM you can easily fix that and both Gnome and KDE feel rather polished at this point.

>>106358828
This post is gold

>>106358745 (OP)
>Everyone knows how to use Apple
I don't
>Nobody knows how to use Linux
I do

>>106363333
Quads of truth. OP BTFO

>>106361834
and somehow majority of their users are professionals in their field? That's crazy!

>>106358947
well no one ever gives a good response. Just copes amount of "macfags r dum"
Usually unprompted btw.

>>106363333
This is the answer.
The people who make the software know how to use it.
Those of us who don't make the software but who have take the time to learn how to use it know how to use it.
As long as those two groups exist Linux ain't going away any time soon. And the majority of us don't care about adoption beyond that.

>>106363478
the few cniles that still make relevant software all use macs

>>106363333
>t. nobody

>>106363333
seriously apple has so much hidden UI these days that it's only intuitive (on touch devices anyway) if you already are addled

>>106358745 (OP)
Linux culture is not equitable or accessible to neurotypical cis women

>>106363505
FOSSNEETS BTFO

>>106358745 (OP)
The gatekeepers ITT will turn around and whine endlessly how it's unfair that Microsoft and Apple have far larger audiences than Linux.

>>106358745 (OP)
I agree about the UX of linux vs macos/windows but
>second monitor
My coworker who has a macbook has to do an esoteric ritual everytime he brings in his laptop to get the monitors to actually work. It's like watching a tech priest trying to appease the machine spirit.
Whoops he plugged in port A before port B, now he has to start from the beginning again!

>>106358745 (OP)
> macOS is user friendly
It feel like you're a bird trapped in a gilded cage.

>>106363460
>well no one ever gives a good response
And you keep spamming the same garbage then pretend the responses aren't good enough. This is no justification for your behavior, you rat fuck.

>>106358745 (OP)
brainlet take. linux mustn't be easy, under no fucking circumstance. work for it bitch. once it becomes easy it inevitably goes to shit.
you have no idea what is being kept out by it not being easy. mark my words dipshits, don't do it, don't ruin linux

>>106358745 (OP)
>linux
found your problem

>>106361137
True, you don't need to be intelligent to use Linux but you do need to not be a complete mouth breathing retarded normalfag so that removes about 80% of the population from using it.

tbqh I was surprised when I connected dell docking station and external monitors just worked right away

>>106358745 (OP)
lol mac os is not easy. ios is but not mac os. to even get into a decent state you need to use brew. some of the sorting doesnt work. a camera junky had to use it and had issues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCTOuffSNi4

>>106358745 (OP)
Another day, another lie.

>>106362523
So I need to figure out that there's something like arandr/xrandr which sounds scary to a newbie, and then figure out how to use them.

Meanwhile other OSes just work

>>106361237
>>106361386
>i gotta get the last word
holy retards
>>106363460
get a job

cuz

>>106358745 (OP)
>users
most users shouldn't be. people shouldn't be fucking around with computers. no good will come of it

>>106358745 (OP)
i had to go through the struggle and so should everyone else

linux desktop always felt like it's eternally ~5% away from being an actual finished, polished product

>>106358745 (OP)
Because users are mostly stupid retards, and nobody wants to cater to them (or at least to the average/retarded user). Corpshitters are forced to make their products usable by the average normgroid, and in turn their design decisions are directed by normgroid execs. It's a filthy cycle, or more accurately a filthy vortex of shit.

>>106367189
just one more feature bro, then the polish

>>106364644
not the OP. But if it helps you sleep at night keep going schizo.

Sorry your half assed OS hasn't improved in decades.

>>106366338
Nah I already worked throughout my 20s. Now, I charge peons like you rent for a living.

>consumers do not want to RTFM
Why should anyone care what mindless consumers want? I don't want consumers sharing my ecosystem.

it should come with a manual if you want them to rtfm

last time i installed a linux distro it didnt come with man pages and help command output were all placeholders

>>106358839
Only problem is it it's for woman, children, and homosexuals

>>106358745 (OP)
No one knows how to use an apple computer or an iphone if they never used one before.
If I told my tech illiterate parents to use a macbook they'd be completely clueless on how to operate it since it's completely different to whatever they used before.
The whole shtick with apple can be summed up to sunk cost fallacy, they spent 4000$ on a macbook and they don't want to admit they did fucked up, so they force themselves to learn the machine and put up with its limitations, linux is free, you haven't sunk any money into it, so there's no reason to fuck off when something goes wrong with it, however tiny and stupid that shit is.

>>106358745 (OP)
grifter eceleb thread

>>106360791
>Why do I need to install intel-media-va-driver-nonfree package because it's not installed by default on Ubuntu and Debian?
because not everyone is using intel
>>106360791
>Why do I need to modify kernel boot parameters to load GPU firmware to use hardware accelerated video encoding?
you don't

>>106358745 (OP)
I dont think its that unfriendly. You just install it and use it. Works on my machine.
>OpenSUSE btw

>>106358828
Believe it or not some devs get paid to make free software. There's corporate sponsors that need the software to actually use rather than sell and having it open sourced means they can benefit from improvements like everybody else.

>>106358745 (OP)
i have a secondary monitor and have no idea what xrandr is nor have a read any manual on how to use fedora
i did look up a guide on how to install gpu drivers so there's that tho

anyone who calls linux "user unfriendly" is retarded. I tried to install drivers on windows and it took a week of trial and error with every error code giving zero help.
every forum post said things like "teeehee thanks for the help I plugged my monitor in and now it works" type shit. eventually it installed with out erroring but I spent 4 hours everyday for a week after work trying to get drivers to install.

Linux literally just works and when I do have a problem one quick search gives a fix

>>106358745 (OP)
apple is unfriendly if you need to back up a phone

>>106369128
cope post

>>106363897
HOLY BASTE

>>106367198
>Because users are mostly stupid retards
it always comes down to "someone who is not me should do this shit for me, NOW!" which is the precise attitude that can fuck the whole OS up.
these morons demand slaves, willing to pay them, corporation finds money opportunity, uses it's weight to get bullshit into linux so they can make money, thus the demanding entitled piece of shit fucks up the whole thing when he comes on loonix

>>106358745 (OP)
If you want a based book on the topic, here's one.

https://simson.net/ref/ugh.pdf

>>106358825
>I typed a command from the wiki
genius shit

>>106373769
Most people can't do that. You overestimate what it takes to be a genius. You're considered a weird nerd for being able to write Python scripts.

>>106358745 (OP)
> fix it
donate to it.
'why dis ting i pay notin for not do what 200k rupee mashin do?!?!'
what a leech. since 2003.

works on my machine

>>106361252
I think this is the same schizo Indian troll who champions LXDE

linux btfo

>>106358826
>driver issues
>compatibility problems
What's the appeal then? Do you just do nothing fun with your computer?

>>106358825
TPBP
Considering how many people can't even read their own fucking language these days, manuals are an amazing retard filter.
If you want Linux-for-retards, it already exists: simply use an Android device.

>>106358839
MacOS treats users like cattle though. That's the exact kind of behavior I'm trying to gatekeep.

b

>>106358844
>nobody is being paid to implement REALLY REALLY REALLY boring features and maintain them for 10+ years
people used to do it because it was their program. then all the individual programs got replaced by gnome and systemd

>>106363453
>majority
Holy shit peak delusion. Holy shit you're fucking stupid. You know who runs their stack on Apple? Fucking nobody except this shithole at one point.

>>106373769
Anon Americans can't read. You can look up the numbers yourself Americans cannot read.
Manuals are the great filter.

>>106363453
kek

>>106358899
>overpriced
Open Sores Loonix is only free if your time is worthless.
Apple is cheap if your time is valuable.

>>106358745 (OP)
Streamlined experience offer little customizability.
I can customize my Linux to be anything, a desktop, server, phone, gaming console, anything and I get to decide how it works.
On an Apple device, I can change my wallpaper.

>>106378987
I would add C++ programmers to that as well.

>linux
found your problem

My parents gifted me a brand new M4 MacBook air 13" and I wish I could install Linux. Mac OS is so fucking weird man and everything costs money. Ublock origin is buried under a ton of paid crap for Safari. Still haven't found a good free dark mode changer. Do Mac users really pay subscription fees to block ads and get dark pages with white text? I still haven't found a good youtube downloader either. Been using the command line on Mac more than I do on Linux weirdly enough. Also why can't I ever cut-paste, why is maximize broken, why does the OS wants me to see my wallpaper so much behind windows, command is less intuitive to press than Ctrl, etc.
The battery life is awesome though and the hardware is obviously a pleasure.
Apple products are easy to use because you can only make easy things with it. If you try to do as I do it's harder than Linux. If you pay for your entertainment on Apple store and pay for software that is free anywhere else and stream everything then it's indeed easy.

>>106358745 (OP)
ANDROID IS USER FRIENDLY LINUX FAGGOTS
/thread

>>106381632
android is staziphone, even fucking keyboard is sending beacons so google can correlate all your internet traffic

>>106381788
welp op wanted userfriendly, thats what it gets

>>106381844
Apple should be granted a monopoly over the phone market in the US. Keep that commie Linux shit in Gayrope.

>>106381889
everyone knows about apple cpu hidden instructions from kaspersky after they got attacked with malware using them glownigger tranny

>>106381844
DILATE THIS

>>106358825
thank you

>>106380466
THIS

>>106381844
Android is linux but a shitty one that is only popular because google and smartphone makers are pressuring to make it the only viable OS for their phones.
It only proofs you can make a shitty OS using the Linux Kernel.

>>106365975
NTA but don’t you still need to google how to use multiple monitors on windows? I mean it’s not like you plug it in and it just automagically detects the exact placement and orientation of your second monitor in relation to your first, you still have to configure it, and to find out how, you need to search it up

>>106381788
User-friendliness extremely correlates with total surveillance.
So choose your poison, mate.

>>106381334
Macs are for people who hate computers and are bad with money.

>>106358745 (OP)
>Apple makes products that come with no manual, that everyone knows how to use.
I ve been using a mac for the last 10 years, after ditching windows 7 and I still don t understand how to deleted a program or where the files are really going. MacOS is pur shit but it s still a desktop OS and not a tablet OS like jeetdows.

>>106382719
Holy ESL

>>106382896
is it ESL tho, just looks dense

>>106382817
>i still dont understand how to delete a program
>after 10 years
>at least it's a desktop OS and not a tablet OS
is this a hallucinating AI? if not describe the color of your skin

>>106382816
Macs are for people who use computers for what they're meant to be used for.

>>106358745 (OP)
>>106382817
>>106383451
> i'm really not indian, guys! let me just post the same thread every day and astroturf cancer
nobody believes for a moment you can afford to live in a house or have indoor plumbing. and really? this bait thread again, ramapoo inamanshand? embarrassing.

>>106383363
a warm alluring bronze

>>106358745 (OP)
That's not the problem. Because no one reads the manual.
The problem with Linux adoption is that it does come pre install it computers normalfags use.
They can't install Linux but they also can't install Windows or MacOS.
If computers came with TempleOS, normalfags would use it. Yeah, they may complain a little, but in the end they would bow down and accept it, just like they did with Windows 8 and 11. Because they are a good goy nigger cattle.

>>106383596
>If computers came with TempleOS, normalfags would use it.
Delusional.

>>106383132
It also has punctuation mistakes and the verb "(to) proof", which probably even many native speakers would consider a mistake, which it is not.
So ultimately it's only the missing punctuation that actually makes it look "ESL", but I wouldn't put it past the average American to write like that nowadays.

>>106358745 (OP)
The first two letters of Linux are "L" and "I". These same letters are the first two letters of the word" lie". Therefore, Linux is a lie, and is a dishonest experience of smoke and mirrors.

>>106383596
loonix user with sunk costs coping hard
windows, macos are both miles better

>>106358745 (OP)

saars please subscriping to youtube !!!

mrmm yes very good opinion sar

>>106383709
spambot post

>>106383915
Sir I am talking of Ross very inteligent man

>>106383964
jeetpost

i had my linux phase like 20 years ago
i also tried hackintoshes
in the end i went back to windows because it just werks (tm)

>>106384189
never had a linux phase
i only tried it just to try it
i didnt like it because it couldnt do what i wanted to
there's just no comparison to macOS

>>106384290
Based and intelligent man speaking truth to power.

Now in the LLM era Linux is more powerful and user friendly than all of other OSes since you can just ask ChatGPT for a set of commands to paste in the terminal to do anything in the OS no matter how complex and boom, done. No need to navigate a million GUIs made for retards.

>>106384290
>>106384327
samefag

>>106384444
same jeetfag*

>>106384444
Apple is literally the only company with a trillion-dollar market cap that is run by a white man.
Meanwhile, @ Google...

>>106384290
i like apple tablets and phones, but i like windows for when i actually need toget shit done

>>106358745 (OP)
no standard GUI after 30 years

>>106358796
He should make a video titled:
>They told me over and over to "install gentoo"! I did and it RUINED MY LIFE
1m views

>>106358900
>Unironically everyone would be better off if we went back to Internet devices being hard to use which functioned as a natural IQ filter. Normies would be happier because they'd go back to living in the real world, and nerds would be happier since the Internet would no longer be flooded by retards.
Very true.
Everyone would win in that case.

The CEOs of Microsoft, Facebook, Google, and Apple are getting coffee. Steve says "excuse me", gets up, walks outside into the street, five minutes later he comes back in and takes a seat. A few minutes go by, Steve again says "excuse me", gets up, walks outside into the street, comes back in and takes a seat. Another few minutes go by, they're all enjoying their drinks, and Steve gets up yet again to go outside. Before he leaves, Bill, Mark and Sergey look at Steve and ask "Why do you keep going outside?"

He turns around and responds, "Coffee gives me the shits."
The others respond, "but the bathroom is the other way," to which Steve replies, "yes, and?"

>>106358745 (OP)
it's to gatekeep normies like you

>>106361137
being able to use linux is the base level for intelligence and anything less is mental retardation.

>>106385498
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP USING NORMIEOS SWTICH TO LOONIX UNLESS U DUMB
>NOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
why are linux users like this?

>>106358825
You genuinely think there aren't plenty of retards on Linux or something at this point

>>106386101
I am retarded and I use Linux(Mint btw).
I was even more retarded before and used Manjaro. Just to give you a gauge of how much of a retard I am.

>>106366338
Get a brain

>>106385653
That highly depends on the distro you're using

Not my fault you can't learn.

>>106385952
What makes you think we want you using Linux?
We don't. You wouldn't know what you're doing even if you tried.

>>106383596
I never bought any of my computers tough all of it is stuff my parents bought and I just never bothered to learn how to use it anyway

>>106376250
Android isn't linux

>>106358745 (OP)
Same reason trannies and their community is:
>Zero accountability
>hostile to anyone questioning current methods/philosophy
>gaslighting themselves and outsiders that the world they live in is perfect and without flaws
The mere fact that running an application through fucking WINE performs better than the Linux native version is insane. Let alone decades old QoL shit missing from basic shit like desktop environments not having thumbnails or the most asinine bug in the world. And don't get me wrong #notallfoss but comparing Firefox to chromium. Is like comparing windows to any distro.Its clear where the knowledgeable devs reside.

>>106358825
Not exactly true because I know some shit SHOULD BE FIXED. Everything else all the little things the user should figure it out. Now with LLM's no one has a fucking excuse for that shit but what rossman is asking to get fixed is right.

>>106386906
You are the tranny now faggot!

>>106386906
>The mere fact that running an application through fucking WINE performs better than the Linux native version is insane
Now, this one is more of a complicated issue. It can be because of Linux itself, but it also can be developers of these programs not wanting to do basic testing either or being outright malicious to Linux in some cases.

>>106386906
You got a use case for thumbnails?! Didn't think so fascist.

>>106386934
>it's not the platform that's garbage it's actually sabotage!
You wouldn't happen to work for Mozilla on the Firefox team perchance?

>>106386951
I've said nothing of the sort, I even recognized it can be because of the way Linux is set up in general, but there are times where people can't even do the bare basics to make the program run on Linux despite jumping through hoops when it comes to windows implementations of stuff.

>>106386383
Android might not be Linux, but it's Linux-for-Retards, which is what OP looks for.

>>106358745 (OP)
Will people teach me to use Linux if I'm a cute girl?

>GIMP has once again moved UI items around
>tools have horizontal scrollbars in their little options frames
>instead of just formatting options to fit
>can no longer click and hold on a menu item, then release, HAVE to click

maybe it's GTK or something, but i swear Linux types do this on purpose.
or they lack 'theory of mind' and THEY know how it all works (they made it after all) so it's fine.

>>106358745 (OP)
iOS comes with a tips application doey

>>106386383
see >>106381844

>>106358745 (OP)
>linux

>>106367189
Free software isn't a product. And you're free to change anything you want in any way you want.

>>106387529
yes

MacOS is not easy to use and has countless unintuitive quirks. Everyone can use Linux because it has good manuals. Linux Mint is for sure easier to use than Windows or MacOS.

>>106390301
you are the product

>>106391132
t. never touched a mac

b

>>106358825
spbp

>>106390301
you are the product

>>106376222
Yes, you're supposed to tinker with Linux all day and enjoy talking in groups with Linux engineers in some asinine telegram channel. This is BY design so that Windows doesn't knock on the door of the people sourcing the distros.

>>106362395
meds administered

louis was a mistake

install gentoo

Linux is a kernel.

>>106398407
wrong

>>106358745 (OP)
I doubt there is a problem in Linux that cannot be fixed today using a free deepseek.

>>106398825
imagine actually believing this

>>106395987
>>106362395
what's going on here?

Why do I want normies using my OS? So attackers can spend their entire time trying to find attack vectors so it can get to normies? Fuck that. 10% market share is more than enough.

>>106358745 (OP)
Being it's a free for all clusterfuck. Like a million cooks all throwing shit into the same boiling pot of soup.

>linux
ngmi

>>106358745 (OP)
because it's a waste of time, take it as-is or fuck off, it's free, the fuck you're going to do about it? tell mommy? sue linus? write a mean comment on sloptube?
I won't babby-proof my house even if I have friends/family with kids, not my kids not my problems, don't like my house, don't fucking come, I don't have a single reason to catter to their needs, it's the same with source code you can find on the internet.
code is distributed as-is, you're not entitled to a manual, safeguards or anything else really.
they make these software for themselves if you want to use them you're on your own, that's perfectly fine, no scummy business model, no anti-pattern, jsut the raw tools, use your brain to make them work, millions succeed everyday, why can't you?

Rossman is suffering from entrepreneurship brainrot, every fucking thing in his live is about busines
if someone makes something and distributes it, this fucking moron will bitch about user-friendliness, ask for the the blueprints and stalk your entire life because apparently customers are owned everything and then some nowadays, you can't just make something and move on, you need a fucking legal entity and a whole team to maintain it otherwise this narcissistic psycho will doxx you and rant about your nipples for hours

>>106358745 (OP)
As much as I don't like...
>Rossmann
I think he makes a good point.

>>106401701
>>(((((((((((((((Rossmann))))))))))))))))

test

>>106402344
>implying he's a j****
>thinks 'mann' is the same as 'man'

>>106358745 (OP)
>no manual
sure because its meant to browse social media and jerking off on twerking nigger trannies

This is bait, but since
>215 replies
If you think linux is not user friendly current year, you havent used linux
Macos I have tried and either I have no idea how to use, or the workflow is complete garbage

>>106402351
did it work?

>>106403042
no

>>106358947
I was just going to ask, why this is still here even though it breaks three of the rules...

>>106403078
what were you testing even

>>106403661
>i dont like thing so it must be breaking the rules

>>106404113
this but unironically

>>106395360
linuxbros... your response?

unfriendly OS

>>106358754
fpbp

friendly on my machine

>>106358745 (OP)
Is it?
damn guess my friends are too retarded to use their steam decks