Thread 17955809

Did Nazism have any ideological content besides mere aesthetics?
Basically all of (neo-)Nazi propaganda is just:
>x is pretty, y is ugly
Examples:
>whites are pretty, browns are ugly
>Germans are pretty, Jews are ugly
>gigachad is handsome, basedjak is ugly
>Renaissance art is pretty, modern art is ugly
>European architecture is pretty, African architecture is ugly
>Neoclassicist architecture is pretty, modern architecture is ugly
>tradwife is pretty, purple-haired feminist is ugly
They designated Poles as ugly, but kidnapped Polish children they deemed pretty:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_children_by_Nazi_Germany#Selection
>A child's "racial value" would determine to which of 11 racial types it was assigned, including 62 points assessing body proportions, eye colour, hair colour, and the shape of the skull.
>The failures that could result in a child, otherwise fitting all racial criteria, into the second group included such traits as "round-headed" referring to the skull shape. Children could be declared the third group for tuberculosis, "degenerate" skull shape, or for "Gypsy characteristics".[23] A girl who was later identified by a small birthmark would have been rejected had the birthmark been much larger.[24]
>These racial exams determined the fate of children: whether they would be killed, or sent to concentration camps, or experience other consequences.
>Many Nazis were astounded at the number of Polish children found to exhibit "Nordic" traits, but assumed that all such children were genuinely German children, who had been Polonized; Hans Frank summoned up such views when he declared, "When we see a blue-eyed child we are surprised that he is speaking Polish."[17]

>>17955809 (OP)
The removal of communism.

>>17955809 (OP)
According to Mein Kampf, Nazism is about the following
>Hating Jews
>Hating Bolsheviks
>Hating Bolshevik Jews
That's pretty much it to be honest

>>17955809 (OP)
>Basically all of (neo-)Nazi propaganda is just:
>>x is pretty, y is ugly
>Examples:
>>whites are pretty, browns are ugly
>>Germans are pretty, Jews are ugly
>>gigachad is handsome, basedjak is ugly
>>Renaissance art is pretty, modern art is ugly
>>European architecture is pretty, African architecture is ugly
>>Neoclassicist architecture is pretty, modern architecture is ugly
>>tradwife is pretty, purple-haired feminist is ugly
This is based and just tho. Ugly people deserve to die.

The Nazis extensive content but alot of it was burned and confiscated by the Allies and subsequently suppressed in western media or simply ignored and not translated.

The matters you refer to are merely the nationalist side of national socialism. It speaks of the very reason a nation or a government should exist, Blut und Boden.

The real question here now is, note that ive posted a reply , are you re- thinking your opposition to us or are you yet further in your trench?

>>17955809 (OP)
>When we see a blue-eyed child we are surprised that he is speaking Polish
lol nazis were so fucking stupid

>>17955822
All these elements are an enormous threat to all mankind on every corner of the globe.

>>17955809 (OP)
Wiki Source:

>Lukas, Richard C "Germanization". Did the Children Cry?: Hitler's War Against Jewish and Polish Children

Uh.... bias much? Oh and the wiki article literally says that undesirable children were killed. Yeah that's right, that the Nazis killed children. Debunked nonsense. Fuck off.

>>17955818
>>17955822
lebensraum und lugenpresse bitte

>>17955849
>Yeah that's right, that the Nazis killed children
yes

>>17955809 (OP)
Aesthetics were a tool to propagate their ideas, not the core ideology you retard. Their ideological content is easy to find.

>>17955809 (OP)
You don't mean to say that nazis have women's logic?

>>17955873
Nazism is what happens when you suppress your homosexuality for too long

>>17955809 (OP)
Jared Taylor has a video about his trip to Slovenia and it's just:
>there were white people everywhere, very pretty
>lots of old-fashioned pretty European buildings
>Predjama Castle is such a pretty architectural marvel
>the nature was so pretty, we visited lakes and caves
It's Studio Ghibli: the Ideology

If you look at a million different extremely autistic encyclopedic racial catalogues and your impression is "wow these people are obsessed with aesthetics!" you might be retarded.
The rest of your post is just as dumb and completely uneducated. Spend some 400 hours reading primary and secondary sources on Nazi ideology and you may be able to ask better questions.

>>17955873
Biological study is women's logic

T. /his/

>>17955899
>Spend some 400 hours
no neonazi does it, they don't even learn german

>>17955876
Nazis burned the tranny books and jailed homosexuals therefore homos are butthurt more than usual.

>>17955822
>>17955818
The Nazis racialized Communism too, seeing it as being spread by ugly Asiatics on the expense of pretty Germans.

>>17955899
This guy gets it.

>>17955910
nazis were a gay party before they stared hiding it after 34

>>17955909
Neo-nazis literally do all this research. Stop being wrong.

>>17955899
>actually the problem with other races is low IQ and crime statistics, not looks
Then you support the mass immigration of the Chinese into the West, right?
They have high IQ and low crime.

>>17955887
Saying one thing =/= only having one thing to say.
I grew up in a 100% white country, I would see a non-white tourist once a year. Currently, I live in an extremely multicultural Western city. It's a totally different environment and the appearance is just scratching the surface. It's not just about how people look - it's about what this means for life in that city.
Even if we put this aside, being around your own is actually an almost utopian experience the value of which can't be understated. My hometown was a complete shithole but I always liked it. It really did feel like home. Since I moved to the West however, no matter how pretty the buildings or the environment may be, the atmosphere is extremely stifling, suffocating and depressing. For my first few years in the West I couldn't understand where this strong depressing feeling was coming from, but the lack of white people was definitely a major, major cause. The actual appearance and colour of the people is not really the key thing, it's the fact that this appearance signals "you are among your own" that changes the nature of the experience.

>>17955915
That's why they shot Ernst Rohm and generally spoke against degeneracy. They didn't hide anything.

>>17955919
Nazis believe in nationalism for every race.

So no.

>>17955921
Indeed that's exactly it. Multi cultural diversity increases stress and reduces trust

>>17955911
It sounds ironic considering that Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels were German.

>>17955809 (OP)
beauty correlates with many other desirable traits such as intelligence, health, abilities

>>17955921
>The actual appearance and colour of the people is not really the key thing, it's the fact that this appearance signals "you are among your own" that changes the nature of the experience.
Demographic change does cause alienation yes, but it's just jarring to see it stated out loud when comparing Slovenes to white Americans lol, they don't have that much in common culturally besides being white.
I remember a post from some American white uberliberal who said he was freaked out when he visited Slovenia because everyone was white, as if he stumbled upon a segregated apartheid state or a sundown town or something.

>>17955910
nazis rejected God (cos he is jewish)
They rejected love between man and woman (you need to marry a girl that Himmler told you to marry so they can breed you like dogs for traits like blond hair)
They rejected family values and mariage (women are glorified children factories mean to spit out more soldiers and workers, the more the better)
While also propagating heavy militarism and brotherhood among men (causing millions of young men to spend most of their lives with each other)

It's pretty easy to see all this homosexualism hiding behind the worship of a "manly aryan body"
Most neonazis being porn addicts who consume tons of cuck porn confirms it

>>17955909
>no neonazi does it
Not all but many do. A few years ago there was even a guy who was systematically translating and compiling interwar sources not yet translated by academics.
But this isn't about neo-Nazism at all. If you want to actually understand something and say things of substance, you have to read about it. One of the best things to read is articles in specialised interwar journals produced by that cultural milieu. In this way, you will see what the Nazis were actually interested in, and why.
And I assure you aesthetics is a minor point. You could find aesthetic concerns maybe in the more populist and public-facing organisations and books. All the race science guys were interested in the question - you guessed it - mainly scientifically, and to a lesser extent politically.
>>17955919
I thought we were talking about Nazis, not about 21st century American right wingers?
I don't know why you are posing a weird false dichotomy to me out of nowhere. For your sake I am letting you know it's a false dichotomy. Even if we are looking at things only from a scientific-eugenic perspective, you could argue for race preservation without referring either to beauty, or to crime statistics, or to IQ. You could for example refer to harmful masking in the genetic code, which outbreeding encourages (Ludovici wrote about this, in an extremely funny way). You could refer to the organ difficulties of mixed race people (being ineligible for transplants from either parent or ethnic group, etc). You could argue from many possible directions. And this isn't even the only perspective that can be taken. For example, if I had to argue an anti-immigration position, I would argue from a communitarian perspective - the native community is a valuable thing that must be preserved as it is in order to ensure its correct and perpetual cultural and political functioning.

>>17955927
It sounds even more Ironic considering the fact the Third Reich supported Chiang Kai-shek with two thumbs up. #notallasians as it is.

>>17955942
That was due to pragmatism. They also supported (dot) Indians during the war, even though the core of the Nazi worldview is that Indians are degenerated Aryans

>>17955934
>comparing Slovenes to white Americans lol, they don't have that much in common culturally besides being white
This is not really true. In the postwar period, Europe generally has been significantly Americanized. Even before this, there was a bond not only of appearance and blood, but also a shared religion, a shared history, and shared tendencies going back to prehistoric times. Due to consumerism, national cultures are in decline worldwide - there isn't that much left that makes Westerners distinct from each other. Even for all the opposition set between America and Russia, if you swapped two citizens from these countries and taught them the language properly, they would live very similar lives to the ones they had before.
It's probably impossible to explain it exhaustively and perfectly, but I feel the same way when I am in a homogeneous white community, be it in the West, in my hometown, or in another country. I went to Slovakia recently and I felt a very similar feeling to what I used to feel as a kid back in my homeland, even though I don't speak Slovakian or have any Slovakian friends or anything.
>I remember a post from some American white uberliberal who said he was freaked out when he visited Slovenia because everyone was white, as if he stumbled upon a segregated apartheid state or a sundown town or something.
This is funny though lol.

>>17955927
Marx wasn't ethnically German.

>>17955948
Why wouldn't white nationalists or nazis support other races acting in their favour?

>>17955940
All debunked nonsense

>>17955941
Indeed. Indeed.

>>17955942
Shek was a nationalist. In my view it was a mistake to support Japanese against Shek. Shek was a nationalist. Not that it matters now that the Chinese government now sees matters our way.

>>17955927
Germans also sent Lenin to Russia literaly in order for him to spread comunism there

>>17955963
>All debunked
where? I repost it agan and see if anyone will debunk it

nazis rejected God (cos he is jewish)
They rejected love between man and woman (you need to marry a girl that Himmler told you to marry so they can breed you like dogs for traits like blond hair)
They rejected family values and mariage (women are glorified children factories mean to spit out more soldiers and workers, the more the better)
While also propagating heavy militarism and brotherhood among men (causing millions of young men to spend most of their lives with each other)

>>17955968

>nazis rejected God (cos he is jewish)

God isn't Jewish obviously


>They rejected love between man and woman (you need to marry a girl that Himmler told you to marry so they can breed you like dogs for traits like blond hair)

This is the SS brides programme a limited scheme that germans saw as a bonus and not an obligation


>They rejected family values and mariage (women are glorified children factories mean to spit out more soldiers and workers, the more the better)

Mothers are respected and honoured so yes family values

>While also propagating heavy militarism and brotherhood among men (causing millions of young men to spend most of their lives with each other)

Defence of the nation, also family values

See? It's that easy

>>17955999
>God isn't Jewish obviously
He seems to have a foundes towards Abracham and Jews in gneral in the Old Testament
>limited scheme
it existed and it was state sponsored, Hitler wanted bulid an entire new city in Norway just for German soldiers so they could be breeded with Norwegian women
>Mothers are respected and honoured
As child factories
>Defence of the nation
In Azerbaijan? cos this is where hundreds of thousands of nazi soldiers were in 1942, pretty far from germany don't you think
Family is weakness, love is weakness, just breed more with your asigned walking womb and then spend all of your free time marching together with other sweaty men

>>17955964
Exactly, how can it be explained?

>>17955940
>>17955968
Say what you will bro eventually Russia will become a Hvperborean Imperivm.

>>17955809 (OP)
>Did Nazism have any ideological content besides mere aesthetics?
Yes they measured skulls as you mentioned and were very proud of their German past.

This was also when IQ tests were first introduced and POC (with the exception of East Asians) still fall behind on IQ tests when compared to White people to this day. This is mostly just statistical averages though, and if we get more specific, the different European ethnicities differ slightly in average IQ too, but that's kind of delving into haplogroup autism, and Ultra-Nationalism territory, which I will not go too far into for sanity's sake. Nazism is mostly just racism, eugenics, and their own definition of socialism. Arabs and Africans still rape & murder at vastly disproportionate rates in Europe, even all of these decades later, so thus traditional Nationalism & Nazism easily survives into 2025

Yes, people back in the day obviously thought aesthetics were far more important within Ethnic Nationalism than nerding out over some test result averages. Our current political climate and education systems generally have much more leniency and tolerancy than the 1930's which was a more serious political climate where any entrance of decadence would be counted as a severe transgression

>>whites are pretty, browns are ugly
>>Germans are pretty, Jews are ugly
>>gigachad is handsome, basedjak is ugly
>>Renaissance art is pretty, modern art is ugly
>>European architecture is pretty, African architecture is ugly
>>Neoclassicist architecture is pretty, modern architecture is ugly
>>tradwife is pretty, purple-haired feminist is ugly
Yes and the things which are pretty in this world usually signify health

>>17956029
hitler said that IQ tests are jewish

>>17956034
Yeah. Idealism was far more important

>>17956010
Accusation in a mirror, nazis love this one

>>17955924
>Nazis believe in nationalism for every race
Source?

>>17956029
Blacks are pretty good at warfare

>>17955921
>My hometown was a complete shithole but I always liked it. It really did feel like home. Since I moved to the West however, no matter how pretty the buildings or the environment may be, the atmosphere is extremely stifling, suffocating and depressing.
Well your hometown will always be your hometown. I was watching a video of a British woman born in Japan to missionaries (whose grandparents were also missionaries) and she spoke Japanese as her first language, grew up in Japan, and found Britain alienating when traveling there. It was pretty interesting. Japanese would still see her as a foreigner because she's not ethnic Japanese but they'd also be shocked because she essentially is Japanese down to the mannerisms.
https://youtu.be/IEPh3gWBEpQ

There's a patriotic mural in Britain depicting a woman with big booba. Nationalism in general is like that
>ooga booga pretty booba i coom

>>17955809 (OP)
Yes, essentially all modern socialism is really just Nazism.

>Kids should be in school and protected from work until 18
Nazism.
>People should have health and life insurance so their families don't starve if they get into a work accident
Nazism.
etc. etc.

Just look up the wikipedia page on this. Most human rights and most animal rights came from them. Other nations and later EU was only forced to adopt them as a compromise.

Basically all things that treat you as more than cattle fodder for red army generals or cogs for ruthless industrialists was thanks to Nazis.

>>17955868
Their ideological content is mere aesthetics though. It's not just their propaganda

>>17956104
>Kids should be in school and protected from work until 18
does that apply to enslaved children too?

>>17956104
Connecting Nazism with human rights is a bit weird but okay

>>17956114
>does that apply to enslaved children too?
You mean foreigners? No, just like in the US foreign subverters were rightfully put in camps.

There is no international law against doing that to this day and for good reason.

>>17956127
>You mean foreigners?
Poles were a foreigners in their own country?

>>17955910
Nazis burned more than just fag books including anything that might lead to criticism of the state, but that's inconvenient for you niggers to try to explain away without looking like NPCs

>>17956144
Those books had ugly covers

>>17955911
Didn't meyer get bvlled by slavoids to the point he wanted to rope? Twitterniggers aren't white btw.

>>17956127
>America putting an American minority within their own borders in camps
>Germans invade another country, declare them foreigners, and then throw them in camps
You're too far gone mentally if you think these are the same.
>>17956145
Based book cover judger

>>17955873
>tfw Hitler was the original lookist

>>17955809 (OP)
Those Abby Shapiro/Streisand genetics raise the GDP of my pp.

there is some truth in physiognomy though

some people just have bad "energy" and you can immediately tell

>>17956154
He left twitter after the school shooting in America that was linked to him and his group chat. But before he did he took a DNA test and it showed he was around 15% Russian.

>>17955818
It always feels as if we never get the full story outside of not agreeing with the Nazi party. as per mainstream concesus it's futile to argue against

>>17955849
>Debunked nonsense.
Cope

>>17956813
I am well aware of his pathetic severely homosexual LARP and that other drug-addled eugenic miracle of a tajik addicted to cunny. Good thing they will all die.

>>17956838
ultrainstinctBBCaddict should be next he was one of the worst but nothing ever happened to him

>>17956131
>>17956170
Sorry, but Jews are foreigners in Poland. Especially Bolshevik Jews.

>>17955809 (OP)
>Did Nazism have any ideological content besides mere aesthetics?
Yes. It was:
>This is our side. This is the side we happen to be in. We will give everything to make it better because it's our side.

>>17956010
>Destabilize enemy country good
>Destabilize own country bad
Not rocket science.

>>17957052
i know that neonazis are too dumb to learn german (or any other language) but you should at least try to guess what
>Polen
means in german