Thread 7690322

how did this nigga develop so little taste after drawing for 2 years ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zrv8RXSQcU

Humiliation ritual thread

>>7690328
kek, look at riyu

500 hours is about 3 months doing it full time (8h/day, 5days/week)
consider that a degree is 4 to 5 years, you'll see this is not that much

if you want to be a professional and you are study less than 300 hours a month you are ngmi

wtf was he doing for 500h

>>7690322 (OP)
Is this 500h total or 500h since his last painting?

>>7690361
he's dumb but he doesn't realize it and the positive youtube comments are making him think he's progressing at a reasonable speed so he's never going to realize how absymally slow he's actually going

>>7690368
total, but he drew before starting to count I think he said

>>7690368
top left is at 0 hours
bottom left is at 200
right is at 500

>>7690388
Holy regression

>>7690322 (OP)
LMAO, holy fuck, glad I didn't pay any attention to the one and only video I saw of this guy.
He's unironically permabeg, I realized when he talked highly of himself, stating that he wasn't a total beginner, and gave his plan, of not actually grinding, instead "being smart", that there was nothing worth listening to.

He's bad, and worst of all, unaware of how bad he is, AND EVEN WORSE smug.

There are things that you'll only learn by genuinely spending 17 hours, consecutively, working in a single study, in a day.
No amount of autistic "specialized" study will ever make you into a proper artist, you need both to do the autistic boring stuff (gesture drawings, figure drawing studies, construction, floating heads) but also spend, non-stop, painting and drawing highly detailed master studies, and on top of that you also need to do your own original content from everything you've been learning.

I'm glad of the guy's videos now tho, it serves as an example of what NOT to do.

vendetta thread?

>>7690438
>>7690322 (OP)
Actually, watched the video just now, well skimmed through it.
He's definitely still beg, but it's his painting that has stagnated the most.
He somewhat has a good value understanding (you can see it in his black and white original blockin), but when he applies color is when everything goes to shit.

Definitely very little progress tho, he's doing this because this is the "smart" way of learning, or whatever, to not have to apply "grinding" multiple hours of work, but he fails to realize that the Masters, the pros, not only already worked "smart", but also did the grinding on top of it.

A complete beg, even worse than he was at the start, could have made way more progress in the last year and half that he has done with this challenge than he did. He's basically completely missing the forest for the trees, and genuinely seems unaware of it.

>>7690368
total hours since he started using anki to learn. 1 hour a day study blocks, but he before he drew before he started the anki thing.

>>7690438
>I'm glad of the guy's videos now tho, it serves as an example of what NOT to do.

>>7690322 (OP)
unironically keeps getting worse. how does he do it?

>>7690322 (OP)
dude doesn't even know how deluded he is.

in other permabeg news arbiter wolf came back after a 4 week break a few weeks ago
we're all gonna make it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDn9f6Nx_rA

>>7690963
is neuroscience guy just arbiter wolf with a veneer of soience?

can anyone chatgpt how long arbiter has been drawing for? he keeps detailed logs on twitter.

>>7690322 (OP)
He's obviously a pro that is joking around.

>>7690322 (OP)
I keep coming back to this guy's channel. It's a motivation boost somehow

how do people even count their hours? When I'm "drawing" most of my time is spent thinking about what to draw, or coloring in and rendering on autopilot, or abusing select tool to move things around to fix a bad drawing. Does all that count as drawing? Sometimes I spend all day thinking about drawing and eliminting ideas that won't work, is that part of the 500 hours? What if I get stuck on something and spend an hour redrawing it over and over before giving up, does that count as drawing?

>>7690322 (OP)
how did this drawing took 9 hours? Is he actually having fun? I thought he was doing pretty well until 5th hour...

I want to say that his construction and coloring both improved, It looks like he internalized certain coloring motifs, but it isn't consistently applied across the board. I feel he kind of run into the muddy colored quagmire, its probably better to start over on the color at some point.

I prefer previous poses because they are more dynamic. In reality 500 hours is not that much in grand scheme of things and I'd say this is a pretty good progress for what he is trying to do.

There are a lot of weird intellectualizing about every little details but I feel like its not getting to the main issues, like he is concerning about ryu being more blurry than the front figure but I think a more consistent and defined understanding of the light sources is more important.

This is his artist's journey, why are you all so mean to him?

>>7691036
>thinking about what to draw
no
>or coloring in and rendering on autopilot
yes
> abusing select tool to move things around to fix a bad drawing
yes
>spend all day thinking about drawing and eliminting ideas that won't work
no
>spend an hour redrawing it over and over before giving up
yes

It's not complicated. When you draw you draw, when you spend thinking about it you arent fucking drawing. Use an app to track the hours spend in your drawing programm and thats the time you drew.

>>7690322 (OP)
What's funny is that he has videos of him drawing well before he started this series, so it's 2 years for this + like 5 years of drawing before hand

>>7691163
but I draw in my head

>>7690322 (OP)
bros...

>>7690322 (OP)
>30k+ subscribers
blind leading the blind kek

why does it look soulless

>>7691101
yeah I agree, the lineart is massively better. but I don't know how he was able to do this stylistic choice for riyu

>>7690322 (OP)
his line work is fine, but man did it go to shit fast once he started painting it.

>>7691419
>Doesn't know how to paint
>Ugly colors
>Thousand yard stare on both characters
>Stiff poses (because he used the fucking symmetry tool)
>Standing in the void
>Ryu's face

>>7691412
the comment section is insanity

That's solid 2 year progress for the average person. PYW if you think you can do better. He's consistent, and will be better than most of you at this rate.

>>7690438
>>7690463
A less talked about problem when it comes to learning is lacking a mentor of any kind. You have people attempting to figure everything out on their own. the problem with that is that you end up directing your focus to everything that won't actually matter. They tend to get caught in trivial things like what brush the other person is using or as he says in the post mortem section of the video getting stuck on process and tools. In order to learn a new concept, it's important to have the knowledge required to understand it. You're not going to get a kid to do addition or subtraction when they do not possess the idea of counting for instance. Similarly, how do you expect to draw a face when you have no conception of how to record proportions?

>He's bad, and worst of all, unaware of how bad he is
>completely missing the forest for the trees
Yes, most definitely. You don't know what you don't know. Look at the exercise he does with the swatches at the end of the video. What practical purpose does it serve? You will not be evaluating swatches independently from each other when painting. It is a niche scenario that won't get you better at painting. More importantly than that, which artists have even done this as an exercise digitally? Doing it with real paint, you'd at least practice mixing and even then you might as well just make a painting.

>>7691437
>his line work is fine

people with both parents and a good life cannot be good at fighting games. They never learned how to survive on their own or make do with nothing but their own wit. Thats why hood niggas with absent parents are winning shit, they know how to thrive with just strength and willpower.

>>7691482
its likely that its young kids thinking this guy is dropping knowledge on them, Sad really

>>7691931
it was decent compared to the shit it turned out being.

>>7690438
Well that's the tragic trap of grinding. You're stuck with doing the same thing over and over again. It's like a game developer spending years to perfect and polish their ONE game instead of also playtesting/letting playtesters comment on their games and fail fast, learn from what he failed at, iterate and do something else until you get better.

At some point you develop gut feeling/ instinct (or talent as people say). You'd realize why something is wrong in your work without even thinking about it and just go ahead an fix it.

Then again he's only been at it for 500 hours or 2 years. Which is NOT a lot unless you have aptitude for art. Try 5 years, 7, 10.

>>7692067
he said in an old video he had been drawing since his teenage years and he had been studying fundies for 2 years before he started the 10,000 hours video series

>>7692067
Grinding isn't tragic, what's tragic is if it's all you do.

>>7690322 (OP)
dude is retarded
learns all this theory and is more into digital tools
and uses multiply layers, and all that fancy tools as a beginner already, and then ofc comes out with this polished shit
i dont think that even advanced artist use that much of any kind of fancy tools, let alone change how a layer works, man has it wrong big time
his drawing skills isnt bad, but his colouring ways are abysmal, id say he should learn to appretiate simplicity, shouldnt change anything on the layers, and use a hard brush, his whole colouring process is wrong, i could write a whole diatribe about that, but thats the reason why his latest stuff looks like deviantart crap

he did well with the bottom left though, the 2nd image, though its not amazing looking, it can be booked as a style choice, the colours also stay more consistent, the lighting is more solid,

i have a feeling he tried to compensate not understanding colours with all the fancy tools, but maybe he will get better after a few hundred hours on that but the way he does it is just a mess

>>7692714
Isn't he indian? Indians always have a talent for making anything fun and creative the most soulless "engineering" shit ever.

>>7690322 (OP)
Some people are truly not meant to be artists. Dude should be an engineer or plumber instead, his mind works that way.

>>7692097
Hoo boy if he's that deep (allegedly) and is still at that phase then he really should just get another hobby. Unless he enjoys it or something.

>>7692130
Yeah I did that grinding phase in my first 3-4 years or so of my art journey lol. I did personal art and then grinding like gestures, perspective. There are tiny improvements year by year. Sometimes I'd draw digital but mostly it's 80% trad 20% digital. Then I stopped drawing altogether for 2 years. Then I picked it back up but digital only and just traced over designdoll and draw some ryona contents and post on pixiv. It somehow found its audience and I've been drawing ever since. You could say that nowadays I draw more (completed artworks) in 1 month than I did in a year back when I first started.

>>7692765
Oh are you the wrestling girls "commission" guy? You suck ass if so

>>7691515
i think part of the problem is people keep circlejerking him in the comments instead of trying to help him out
most people are complete tastelets so they unironically see this as good progress and can only see issues with things like basic proportions, and his proportions are usually fine enough

>>7692857
also the appeals to soience are pure dunning kruger fuel.

>all videos showcase him scribbling traditionally, pen and paper
>mumbles a bunch of technobabble shit and basically puts everything into a box like some sort of autist, but despite that, it all looks fine and there's obviously something going well there
>jumps to digital
>it's always wonky and off, feels and looks like someone completely different is drawing everything
All this engineered autism and they've somehow completely ignored the whole getting used to the disconnect of a tablet and screen ordeal.
Isn't there an engineering buzzword for this exact thing? Analog to digital?

>>7692952
>all videos showcase him scribbling traditionally, pen and paper
>but despite that, it all looks fine
it "looks" fine but his shit is literally a symbol drawing taken to the extreme. he shows himself breaking the form into simple shapes but they're scribbled like shit and not drawn clearly with intent. he actually doesn't know why these things look the way they do and doesn't understand shit because he cycles through drawings so fast. he literally is a tom fox wannabee as a result of reading his book once. Tom Fox is an ultra hack

>>7692857
Yes. The main issue is that as begs or beginners in anything, it's hard to know any better. The people in the comments won't know any better because they are there for entertainment or knowledge. they're largely normies (who will be impressed you can draw at all since they do not) and other begs. Although I would say it's not a matter of taste, but rather inability to see or know the problems exist at all. the scope of what they know is too small. This is the drawback of being in a public forum where the skill floor is very low and there's nobody higher up the curve to tell you what to work on and what went wrong. It's an unfortunate circumstance to say the least and I hope he does find success.

>>7690322 (OP)
For 500 hours this is fine. If what he's saying is true about spending an hour a day, then that's about a year and a half, which looks par for the course. Remember, most pros spend 5+ years doing art 8 hours a day to get where they are.

In terms of this piece, it looks like he got overwhelmed with the lighting, which is something he himself recognized so with practice he'll definitely be able to improve. What I think is a bigger problem for him is how in his practice video drawing faces, he repeats the same proportional mistake over and over again. I think he can really benefit from having someone more skilled look through his stuff and give him some pointers.

how the fuck do you shade anime faces without soft rendering? I want to shade with only one dark tone.

>>7693870
Study 80s anime nigga

>>7692997
Who’s not a hack, anon?

>>7690322 (OP)
because he doesn't even like drawing and thinks that he can get good by optimizing studying and focusing exclusively on that. of course you should work on your fundies, but it seems like he doesn't even like drawing

>>7690322 (OP)
Should have drawn Bridgman twice. Unironically he would be much better.

>>7693936
his figures aren't the problem

>>7693936
Instead of drawing Bridgman twice he drew David Finch 20,000 times. Grim really.

>>7693934
This guy talks like a crab

>>7690463
>A complete beg, even worse than he was at the start, could have made way more progress in the last year and half that he has done with this challenge than he did.
How? Could it just be that a lot of progression speed is determined by innate ability and not necessarily time spent and quality of study?
What's interesting is that his studies are good, and not too dissimilar from the quality of studies I see from more established artists. There definitely seems to be a disconnect between his study/practice pieces and his finished works.

>>7694027
Has he learned how to draw faces? I don’t think the drawings would look as bad if the faces are decent.

>>7692850
Nah I'm not him. I know who you're referring to though.

>>7694027
Quality of study is the most important. If all you ever do are 30 second gestures, you'll never be able to draw a 3-hour long pose figure drawing no matter how hard you try. If you are studying without purpose or a reason for them then the value of that study becomes near meaningless, information needs context to stick and there's discoveries you find while making something personal that you'll never find written down in a book or tutorial.

>>7692997
>shit is literally a symbol drawing taken to the extreme
What you've posted isn't symbol drawing.

>>7693849
Yeah that looks fine
although 500 hours might be a little exaggerated.
How many of those hours actually translated to true progress?
It's just typical clickbaiting.

What is he even going for in terms of art? Getting someone more skilled to crit him doesn't mean he will magically improve if he doesn't fully grasp all fundamentals, even just in theory.

>>7690322 (OP)
I don't understand how top left could be 0 hours. A prebeg can't draw that. What was his prior experience?

>>7690322 (OP)
2 years vs 78 days

https://x.com/KevinEspiritu/status/1956720527953027115

>>7694387
neuroscience Btfo

>>7694357
top left is 0 hours from starting this shitty ass youtube series. apparently he had a few years of unserious fundies training prior to counting, so his videos saying starting at 0 is pretty climbaity and disingenuous.

>>7694387
Holy shit that dude is worse than anki guy. Every post is "x days learning to draw", "x watercolor I've made", "unlocked the next stage on the skill tree". Everyone interacting with his posts is some AI/crypto/venture capital dude. Half his posts are already "Here's how to draw/art tips" posts. He's a silicon valley techbrained dunning krueger and I guarantee he's going to start trying to sell something in the next 6 months.

At least anki guy has some semblance of soul

>>7694387
lmao this dude is retarded

>>7694486
Honestly even his first post is better than probably 75% of this board. Granted, he says he hasn't drawn in over a decade, and even then I would be more than a little surprised if this is true. He is a blue check, and "made X progress in art in Y days" stuff seems to be decent algorithm bait, so I wouldn't be surprised if he is indeed understating his beginning skill level to come across as more impressive.
Regardless, the reality is that some soulless algosloppers and "Hola señor comm me plz" thirdie artists are just legitimately born with enough natural talent to be able to go from prebeg to having enough skill to be an employable artist in a short period of time. Sure, it's infuriating, but talent isn't doled out based on passion. There's people who will draw feverishly for years on and and become borderline suicidal over their inability to progress or gain any traction with their art, while some people will just draw from time to time as a hobby, and their works turn out excellent and every time they share something they're flooded with praise for their skill... and they just don't even really care all that much, and might even quit entirely when they get bored.

>>7694550
talentfags exist but I counter with this comic he posted to his alt account two weeks ago

dude is a techbro hustlefag that's up to something, he's absolutely up to something trying to brand himself as an 'art guy' among ai bros. he's got posts about minting nfts too, this is all part of some grift

>>7690340
>You need to practice 9.7 hours a day to get good (for a 31 day month)
Fuck... you got me rethinking my whole strategy now.
Does practice include note/studying from books about drawing or is it drawing in general that counts?
Should I just DRAW MOAR?

>>7694550
And I say this as somebody who has been on the opposite side of this. I was in school band back in the day, and while not excellent, I did well enough, but only stuck with it for an extracurricular-type thing that allowed me to skip PE. I would only practice when absolutely necessary, and even then I would do shit like just run scales for a few minutes so my mom would sign off on my practice card, and barely even play at all during marching band because I never memorized the music well enough to be able to march and play everything at the same time. There was this one girl, though, who fucking loved band and would sit outside and listen to the full orchestra (that I was in) practice because she wanted to be in it so very badly. She loved that shit and even wound up sticking with it into college, yet during the time we were in school together, she just could not surpass me, or even make it into top band while I was in it. Not saying she was bad or anything, but even with my barely giving a shit attitude and absolute bare minimum practice, I was just better than her.
I know it's comforting to think that every artist who is better than you either worked longer, has some better practice technique, or at worst is doing some sort of cheating, but the reality is that no, there are people who are much better artists than you who have drawn less, study worse (if at all), and ultimately care less about their skill less. Life just isn't fair. But hey, there's probably some skill out there which you'd master with ease, but it's probably something that you just don't give a shit about.

No wonder why this art sucks. Chun li likes white dudes. Why are schizos making Chun x Ryu slop?

>>7694559
>that story
>those legs
>that ass
Is he gay?

>>7694559
>that blue arm

>>7690322 (OP)
I have to ask, how often does he make original pieces? Does he only draw them as checkpoints after X hours of study? I really don't think this technique works. Yeah, you learn stuff from studying, but it is far from a 1:1 carryover, and the truth is that your finished pieces will only improve if you make more finished pieces. I think he'd be well served to stop with the studies, relegate them to warmups for a month or two, and focus on trying to draw two or more finished pieces a week.

>>7694569
how's your art skills?

>>7694582
Decent, good enough to regularly sell commissions, but far from where I'd like to be, and at a point where I regularly see people surpass my skill level after just a few years of drawing (I've been drawing for nearly 20 years at this point, with some periods of minimal output, but still fairly consistently over that timespan)

>>7694559
Maybe, but hey, it isn't like Proko's dog comic was great, especially when compared to his observational drawings. I could absolutely believe he's on his way to being a decent observational artist/studymaxxer with beglet skill when it comes to drawing from imagination

>>7694542
are these schizophrenic wojaks

>>7690322 (OP)
bro needs to quit drawing and do something else like coding or cooking

>>7694559
"I put the new Forgis on the Jeep"

>>7694728
>500 hours of cooking mac'n'cheese later
>wtf why do i still suck?

>>7694780
I was thinking the same thing. It unironically looks like the start of gay porn.

>>7694782
unironically this is a pretty spot on way of describing what this guy is doing. like what this anon said >>7694068
he's spending an hour to make fast barebones studies and doesn't spend more time than that to do something more complex and letting information stew in his brain.

>>7690340
50 hours a week = 200 a month
2400 hours roughly a year maybe 4 to 5 years

You mongs are permabegs

>>7695286
sounds like you dont want to be a professional and thats ok, you can aim for 2 hours a year then

>>7694814
What should have he done then, anon?

>>7690963
New Arbiter Wolf just dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6up0UHKlqOA

>>7695415
permabeg kino

>>7695415
>I'm sorry friend but it doesn't seem like you've improved very much at all since you started. Thats kinda insane considering how long you've been going.
>I hope you're having fun at least.
>Good luck to you.

>>7695415
2 years of progress, not bad. Boxes are pretty good too, he's improving.

>>7695480
>>7695453
People are so mindbroken by seeing le ebin progress memes that they forget that the overwhelming majority of artists improve at a very slow rate. Why you don't see these people more often is because
>some artists never shared their works before reaching a higher skill level
>some people never share their works at all
>the slow progress people don't draw as much attention
>a lot of slow progress artists do indeed quit before getting good
I know people like to shit on the concept of talent, but it is absolutely real, and some people do indeed pick up certain things far more quickly than others and use these skills in novel ways that the untalented would never even imagine. Do you really think all artists who made it to the history books got there through sheer dedication? Sure, they oftentimes worked very hard, but they had a certain unique thing in their brain that allowed them to produce works which were of such an exceptional and/or were so revolutionary that they rose above literally millions of other artists and produced works which made lasting impacts on the world of art.

>>7695695
its not talent, its the ability to retain things and recognize and analyze. the guy in the OP seems like a midwit. thats all talent is. intelligence. memory. intuition. inspiration. will.

theres nothing such as talent, only spirit, which comes in many forms. sovl as the zoomer would label it.

>>7695480
>>7695695
Setting your standards too low is insidious.

>>7695739
Shutup nerd, not everyone is talented or smart. He's clearly putting in effort and is courageous enough to document his progress publicly. In a few years he'll be better than most people on this board.

>>7695747
What a sad pathetic mentality.

>>7690322 (OP)
you vendettafags are pure cancer

>>7695480
This is the most diabolical type of crabbing. Keep it up!

>>7695753
What is sad or pathetic about it? Everyone has different circumstances and limitations in life. Not everyone should be judged with the same standards. Perhaps someday you will feel this when life teaches you some humility.

>>7694559
this is 100x better than proko's comic.

>>7696549
This board is full of thirdies that see art as a tool to improve their quality of life. Its not about self expression.

>>7690322 (OP)
Shame! Shame! Shame!

>Your channel is probably one of the most honest, helpful and important art learning resources on the entire internet. Great work!

lmao
brain dead comments

>>7694592
>Proko did it again

I don't understand, how someone like him can be so good, yet so bad at art at the same time.

.

>>7695415
This is so sad.

>>7701548
fuck ass my with big black dick
I think he is bad at drawing observations due to impatience
idk man 96 weeks? bruhh

>>7694387
The anki retard should've just done a dynamic sketching course like this guy.

>>7701548
>>7701625
This is a fairly normal progression for an average-sized /beg/, I'd say?

>>7701665
permabeg

>>7694592
>pic
I mean it's making me laugh every time, just for the wrong reasons

>>7701665
>average progression for a fat autistic mid-30s man after nearly two years of drawing
Possibly

>>7701665
No, it's pretty slow. These before and afters generally imply consistent learning so 8 months for that is pretty bad progress.

>>7701665
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAjZoW6TvW0

>>7701964
damn, I'm so cooked chat. I'm dogshit

>>7690322 (OP)
This is the best example
You need to be born with a talent

arbiter wolf will eventually brute force his way into serviceable enough art like pawell did but it will take much longer because he's a lazy fuck

>>7695415
how can you be so bad after two years? serious question. what the fuck is he drawing anyway. he pepertuates his shitty ideas and shitty references and shitty symbol drawing. he'll never get better like this. literally.

>>7701903
genuinely the most disgusting and horrifying permabeg art i've ever seen

>>7701903
>he attempted to draw the
Crying Aya Asagiri meme
holy kek my sides

>>7701903
This is shit

>>7690322 (OP)
Thanks i can post mine again

>>7695415
i feel like anyone sincerely shitting on this guy is just another insecure beg trying to feel better because im pretty sure hes literally low iq retard, op is a better example of staying permabeg from ego rather than literal brain damage

>>7702179
...... blog?

>>7702185
cheesegr8twt

>>7702144
Plenty of people do shit for years on end and never get great at it. If anything I'd say that's more the norm than people who go from prebeg to semipro in just a couple years. In fact I'd say the norm is slaving away for years, topping out at what /ic would classify as highbeg/low int, and literally never improving beyond that point. Not because lack of effort or anything, but that's simply as good as they can get.
I've done reference copies/studies for almost 20 years and I'm still not great at it, and require many passes to get a decent result. To this day, watching people who can just lay down quick, accurate lines and wind up with a passable copy absolutely mystify me. My brain simply cannot off-the-cuff, without measuring etc, see any more accurately than I can currently see. Period. I've literally maxed out my skill, and no amount of repetition yields observable improvement.

>>7702191
pyw

>>7702137
Arbie unironically is already better than pawell in terms of appeal lol.

>>7702191
>Plenty of people do shit for years on end and never get great at it
That's because they're stupid. You're stupid. Fortunately our society has a place for you, bricks need to be carried, shelves need to be stacked and burgers must be flipped. That is until robots come along, be happy you're alive in an era where you can still be useful.

>>7702204
PYW

>>7702204
I don't know about that, I've excelled at pretty much everything I've ever tried outside of art, typically with minimal effort. Not everybody is great at all things, anon. I do OK when drawing from imagination, at least, and despite my ineptitude at immediate accuracy in terms of observational drawing, I work around it via visual measuring techniques.

>>7690322 (OP)
I bet this guy lurking on this thread and crying in the bed

>>7701903
I've been staring at this image for 5 minutes straight literally lmaoing my ass off.

>>7690322 (OP)
I feel bad man...
We are bullying to him :(

>>7701903
this is objectively better and funnier than this >>7694592

>>7703373
low effort slop

>>7701903
This nigga tracer

>>7703571
can't even make a original work

>>7703571
He didn't even trace it right lol. Turned the tongue into teeth

>>7704197
bro can't even trace

>>7701903
One of my greatest fears is that my drawings look like this but I'm too retarded to see it. Like that Quantum Leap episode.

>>7704721
You'll never know the truth if you don't pyw and let us judge.

>>7704787
Okay, I started this last night. Try to look past the subject matter. https://litter.catbox.moe/o9i50vv64w15vgmj.jpg

>>7704803
I like it

>>7701903
soulless even at this stage

>>7704803
pdfile

>>7690322 (OP)
Solid progress if he's literally just doing roughly an hour a day. Shame that he seemed to be more ambitious with his first two checkpoint projects. It's like he was afraid to not show progress so he picked the most generic pose and expressions. He clearly cares more about playing around with art pedagogy than becoming an artist.

>>7705588
500 hours of watching tutorials

>>7694559
that kinda looks like it was made with AI to me. The lineweight varies too much while being too consistent in some other places. And the guy sitting on the right in the theatre has many weird artifacts in the details.

>>7705962
I can't understand what the fuck is this even about

>>7690322 (OP)
i hate these type of people who do big talks

>>7701903
soul, good on him for actually finishing these three drawings. 99% of people on /ic/ would have given up before moving past the head.

People who draw this bad but can finish drawings need to learn what to actually work on. You can tell they attempt different things that in theory seem like good ideas, but the execution of it all is so bad because the most important thing in art is form. There's zero form here so any techniques and effects will not help him.

>>7690322 (OP)
His line drawing got a lot better, it's actually kind of fascinating how he manages to ruin in completely with his rendering.

>>7707255
Whoa...