Thread 28582882

Shore casting edition!

>Motorcycle tips and tricks
>rip gn & gaymoo
>Y A M A H A
>cb500 leg legion headquarters association
>Motorcycle pics, wembos, and streamies
>anime is irremediable gay
>except for Bak
>countersteering filters the nobike
>Motorcycle and Whiskey Pairing Advice

>STICKY(UNDER CONSTRUCTION): >>23526953 #
>FAQ(UNDER CONSTRUCTION): https://pastebin.com/xu560p4q

links
>https://msf-usa.org
>https://cycle-ergo.com/
>https://superbikeschool.com
>https://sharp.dft.gov.uk/helmets

>banned for your opinions/report the toxic t/o/urists
>https://www.4channel.org/feedback

Mandatory viewing
>A Bíblia das Curvas de autoria (TOTW2) by Keith Code
https://youtu.be/ClmFaHuJUDU

>Street Smarts leading edge (outdated) safety video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtG6MRIVtZg

>bak
https://9anime.to/watch/bakuon.z1nm/ep-1

MEET, FIGHT and FUCK!
>(New map! Email dbtmap3@gmail.com with pic of bike (hosted) and location to be added):
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1oTvWWrLIUa0wWsds9QQdGmsYzFVYnyxs

Previous thread: >>>28580388

>>28581563
>>28582884
Fugg mine was the last post before new bread, so I'm backlinking here so that /dbt/ may gain another KLR chad

Think this'll be my next bike bros

Just got added to the map, feels good.

Dustbin fairings: will it kill me and will it actually improve bike perfomance?

>>28582812

they do make make a lot of money tho

>>28582897
Is the map actually being updated again or is this a meme

>>28582912
yea it is, just email the guy

>>28582899
They have their place. Going to the corner store is not it.

>>28582884
thx KLR bro, Gen 1s seem very hard to come by while the used market seems to be nothing but Gen 2s. Maybe for a good reason

>>28582937
You're an animal

>>28582977
NTA but gen 1 seems the best to me. A good deal lighter than the other gens. Gen 3 is heavier than a Transalp, I believe.

not mine but a nice f3 i saw recently

>>28582882 (OP)
got my cbt this coming tuesday bois im fucking hyped

>>28583026
Be smooth. Join the club.

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threadly reminder that if your bike displaces less than 1.8L it is technically a moped

>>28583019
Clearly an F4, retard.

>>28583061
reminder that if your cock displaces less than .18l it is technically an enlarged clit

>>28582899
Never heard of this, extremely cool

>>28583067
shit yeah lol

>>28583069
I get about 7.5 ci

>>28583061
>1.8l

at that point just call it a car

>>28583069
Hmm, no. Ladies do not urinate out of their clitoris.

>Order front brake pads and rear
>Have it ship to CycleSneed
>Order is ready for pickup
>Ok, cool. Lemme go there.
>They only have my rear pads
>Fine, I'll just come back for the fronts
>Fast forward, next day
>Ready for pickup
>It's half of the front pads not two pair
>mudda fukkas
>Ok guess I'll just.. come back.. a third time..
Tiresome

Do you go offroad in your biak? Is it good for it?

>>28583187
>Ladies do not urinate out of their clitoris
Lies, you can't fool me :)

>>28583200
based

>>28583042
5 threads is enough, you get no more.

>1975 F7
I don't need it in my garage but I see it for sale and want it in my garage.

>>28583258
My heart did a little flutter at that. Memories :)

>just want to commute for cheap
>car market is fucked
>always liked bikes
>literally nothing at 50cc near me
>look up MSF near me
>1 place
>$400
>0 classes scheduled for the next several months

What the fuck.
How bad is it to ride something in the 70cc-250cc range without the endorsement
How hard is it to learn to ride on your own starting from nothing

>>28583271
That endorsement is worth it anon, the msf really does help. The class enstills strong principles for you to build off of.

Invest in it, your future self will thank your past self for doing it.

>>28583271
>How hard is it to learn to ride on your own starting from nothing
Easy peasy.
>how bad is it to ride something in the 70cc-250cc range
Try to stay out of traffic.
Pass the test. 250cc will see you to 130mph if you buy the right one.

>>28583274
I literally can't even if I could afford it. I just want to get to work traveling an average of 40mph. I won't take highway.

>>28583271
>LITERALLY cant figure out the most basic shit
i mean this in the best way possible, motorcycling is not for you. low iq individuals crash all the time.

YAMAHA

https://youtu.be/2LTfbtDA-1Q?t=569

>>28583281
What am I not figuring out? Like I said im not one of those guys looking to bomb down streets.

>>28583271
It's best to do it. It gives you a baseline of what to expect and shouldn't be the only training you do but it does give you some basics.

That said, the exercises you go through are available online, and you can buy self-learning expanded motorcycle lessons. Most of what you'll be doing are slow-speed maneuvers and you should expect to drop the bike a lot and often while doing them.

>>28582888
pigfat baiku, shoulda got a DR.

>T. Suzukichad

>>28583280
then just get an ebike

>>28583286
people like you and samuel campos are better off asking AI

>>28583280
E bike time. I think you're downplaying riding a small 50cc to 40mph. That isn't quite as simple as you'd think.

>>28583287
>>28583291
Well I'm not asking if I should do the msf. I'm saying I don't have the opportunity at all.
>>28583292
>>28583289
Nah I'm not getting an e bike.

>>28583280
Your gear ought to cost a third of the price of your first bike.
I passed on something related to pic which would sit at 65mph. Don't expect non American vehicles to idle at highway speed.

>>28583286
because youre gonna buy some retarded 49cc chink scooter and its gonna run like shit and eventually break down and youll have to figure out how to order the parts and fix it. which you wont, itll sit in your garage and collect dust and youll set it 4 years later for $200

>>28583283
I would have sex with onsa
>>28583296
>Your gear ought to cost a third of the price of your first bike.
makes no fucking sense.

>>28583294
Dunno how to tell you this then, but tuff luck champ. Either save up or find another alternative.

>the consequences of no licence when pulled over costs more than the msf

>>28583302
>Gear costs third of bike
Idk what's up with people nowadays and silly blanket statements.

Literally just buy good gear that fits you, price be damned. You want objectively good gear no matter what the bike costs.

>>28583283
Onsa!
No more Bakuon ever again.

>>28583297
I'm not an idiot I already have researched all that kind of stuff and know what to avoid and what not. Also o already said I'm not getting a 50cc to begin with.
>>28583303
Its not a question of money its literally one of opportunity. I can afford the msf. There are no classes.

>>28583302
All that crumple and anti and safety in a car is what you have to wear on a bike.
If you want to tee shorts and flip flops then make sure you have a doner card.
Someone will appreciate it.

>>28583302
>I would have sex with onsa
Same!

>>28583311
>I'm not an idiot
Yet you're here asking idiotic questions
>hurrdur how hard ride bike
Low iq

>>28583311
So many dudes drop out of the msf because they can't wake up early enough to be there on time. A position will open anon, seriously. Take that class before hopping on a damn bike, you'll save so much skin by doing so

>>28583322
There are no classes.

>first 3 months of riding
>stock DR650
>minimal highway experience
>internet assures me DR650 is more than highway capable
>first ride with a major highway component today
>felt like I was in a fucking wind tunnel
>almost got buffeted across the white lines at one point
Is this what highway riding is supposed to feel like? Wrong bike? Skill issue?

>>28583325
Go take a drive and rent a motel for 1 night

>>28583329
If I had the ability to take a drive I wouldn't need this in the first place

>>28583325
Well now I know you're lying lol

>>28583337
>no car
>no bike
>no skill
>not even capable of riding a bus
You're fucked, no better off than a homeless druggie

>>28583302
>>28583307
Genuinely, buy an airbag.

>>28583339
That was in my original post dude.
>>28583344
I wish we had a bus

>>28583348
Are you referring to an airbag vest or just being snarky

>>28583325
Assuming you live somewhere with 4 distinct seasons, you're booking at the worst possible time of year. I doubt my area has any available courses until spring 2026. On the bright side, it's the best possible time of year to buy a bike second hand.

>>28583352
No I mean an airbag vest. A helite turtle vest with the tether.

>>28583358
I'm in six fucking figures of debt. I need to get a job yesterday. I had a 2004 Honda civic couple but it exploded. I fucking hate cars and I hate this autoshit. I wish we had self driving 3 wheeler bikes. Why the fuck not? It would be easier and cheaper than a car and make people less scared. Give me a self driving 3 wheeler 200cc bike. Like a 200cc Yamaha niken. Fuck this gay ass country.

>>28583362
I was actually thinkin about picking up an H-moov vest. Only concern is just the added weight that comes from it.

I genuinely agree that airbag vests are an incredible innovation for rider safety. I just wish they were less noticeable when equipped.

>>28583314
Grown up she does look good.

>>28583364
That would work, kind of pricey but the fact it's just a backpack lets you justify that it's part of your gear that you should take with you.

>>28583258
I want one of these. Was my first bike.

>>28583271
If you can ride a bicycle you can ride a scoot. Learning to ride manual is one more day's work after that.

>>28583371
The intial buy in is higher but the co2 cartridges are the simple universal ones which keeps the cost down in the long run.

But what the fuck do I know, I am trying to buy an RC51 before said vest kek

>>28583372
Two stroke gods

I was excited for nothing. It's a 490 adv. Not a 690. Shits always fucked.

>>28583379
Just as well, the small displacement ktm's have been pretty reliable

>>28583377
RC51s are the worst of the vtwin sportbikes

>>28583384
GOOD. If that's the case, their value will continue to fall.

I don't need the best, I just need those gear driven cams.

>>28583388
>gear driven cams
Genuinely fuckin why

>>28583384
Shut your whole mouth.

>>28583328
Skill issue. Trail bikes get buffeted about more. The answer is to predict the effect. It's easier to go through someones bow wave on your terms than on theirs.

>>28583394
*whore

>>28583390
No cct to fail, very cool noises, exceptional reliability, stupid easy to work on.
I used to have a VFR800 fi and that thing was peak sexoooo everytime
https://youtu.be/PHiqTRrVBW0?si=lWz9SVBpCqaUhPsW

>>28583390
"cadbury chain" It's a historical Honda thing.
Bro had a VTR1000, a bit much if you need to commute.

>>28583394
No he is right, the rc51 is objectively speaking the worst of the batch. It wasn't even Hondas fastest bike let alone the competitors.

>>28583413
Compared to which one? Tl1000r had shit suspension. That leaves what? 916? Honda won races with that bike.

>>28583417
Aprilia, Tiller killer, rc, sv1000 if you are talkin twins.

The TL had a better top end despite its window maker suspension.
As for faster bikes not limited to twins, there's the fireblade and r1 and kawi bikes.

>>28583410
You don't know a single person that has had their cam chain fail

>>28583417
Oddly same bro had TL1000. I don't think he has ever ducati.

>>28583421
Lol, I wish. In the context of honda, their CCTs are notoriously shit pre-revision.

Intially they'd have the chance to stick if you closed the Throttle instantly from a high load. Niche occurrence but still enough to mention.

>>28583420
Ofc there were faster bikes we are taking about vtwin sports bikes.

>>28583421
Honda cam chain tensioners are why gear driven cams are a thing.
There is a reason for gear driven cams.

>>28583288
Mogs the DR for dependability. I’ve had both. Countershaft seal was a NIGHTMARE. The KLR has never left me high and dry.

>>28583430
More reason to avoid honda then

>>28583431
I snapped a balance shaft drive gear. It made for one big ass vibrator for a while.

>>28583328
Highway as in 80 MPH? I hit about 70 on my XT250 and while it feels intimidating at first, you quickly get used to it. It's just wind. Space cushioning is way more important for safety than if you're blown by the wind.

>>28583435
Good, less competition to buy their bikes.

They resolved the cct after 01' for cbrs the part number is 14520-MCJ-003. Doesn't have the issues mentioned.

>>28583436
Thumpers in general are pretty butthurt-inducing, I can imagine it being brutal

>>28583437
I remember lane splitting at 80mph on a kh250 while using hand signals.
Experience issue, :)

>>28583448
I don't know if my XT can even hit 80 mph. I wish it could.

>>28583439
There's also little demand to eat human poop, why don't you do that too?

Hondatards are almost as bad as harleytards

>>28583395
>skill issue
I find that reassuring because I really like the bike but how big of a difference does it make being on some heavy ass bagger?
>>28583437
Most highways around here are posted 110kmh, 120 keeps pace. When you say space cushioning, is that the same as lead time, i.e. keeping distance to brake/evade?

>>28583457
I don't because you've already consumed so much of it that it's dripping from that stupid fucking mouth of yours, wear a bib at least good God man it's steadily flowing out of that thing.

>>28583451
Try it. Pushing limits is part of growing up.
I'm an old b* and there's a specific woman I'm working up to touching. ;)

>>28583471
cope hondacuck!!

>>28583479
>>28583468
That's the best you got? Damn you're as dumb as yamaha owners

>>28583395
>skill issue
I find that reassuring because I really like the bike but how big of a difference does it make being on some heavy ass bagger?
>>28583437
Most highways around here are posted 110kmh, 120 keeps pace. When you say space cushioning, is that the same as lead time, i.e. keeping distance to brake/evade?

>>28583486
Keep eating those turds boi!
Don't leave any for the rest of us!

>>28583500
You already ate it all up anon, there's none left. You lack the critical thinking skills to even articulate why you think honda (the largest motorcycle manufacturer) is bad.

>>28583504
You already know why, dumby
Selling 90cc scooters to 15 million 3rd worlders doesnt impress me

>>28583505
So you got nothing, got it.
Scooter sales affect how you judge their motorcycles?
Double digit.

>>28583470
>>28583488
>When you say space cushioning, is that the same as lead time, i.e. keeping distance to brake/evade?
It's a little bit of everything, It's keeping distance to brake/evade but also keeping distance from the lane next to you, distance from the driver behind you (This is very important), available distance on the shoulder so you have places to swerve to in order to avoid hazards, 'Space Cushion' as a definition is any available space which you can be sure will be available to you, and it changes moment-to-moment and depends on your line.

110, 120 kph keeps pace but drivers don't keep pace. Drivers around here will gleefully do 140 on roads marked 100. And you as a rider have to be ready for them by maintaining a space cushion around all potential obstacles and drivers. It's always preferable to give way to drivers using your space cushioning because in a fight for space, the driver always wins. Your advantage is that being a little motorcycle, you can fit it in places drivers wouldn't even consider an escape route like a narrow shoulder.

There's this guy named Dan Fireman which I think this thread hates because he does reactslop but he does in-depth breakdowns of common motorcycle crashes, and they're usually spot-on if you're just learning to ride on the highway. He also does pavement motorcycle lessons for beginners.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TyqxhTqyrs

>>28583512
>goldfish memory
There's no helping a hondatard!

>>28583468
HOONDA

>>28583042
What's the point of putting it in the fridge then?

Any non-twinks itt that have overpowered death wobble? Like basically stop deathwobble by just flexing so hard you turn into a solid member of the chassis locking the steering angle inline with the direction of the rear tire. Is this possible?

>>28583525
>metric cruiser

>>28583539
keeps the helmet fluid from bubbling

>>28583551
HELL YEAH BROTHER

Had a Lil Asian gal ask me today when I was gonna take her for a ride on my hawg today on our nature walk.

>>28583543
The math doesn't work out because you are such a tiny member of the equation of 400 lb bike + 80 mph, just doing stupid math (I don't do any other kind of math) the force acting on the bike and the handlebars at the time of the wobble of a 400 lb bike made of aluminum at 80 MPH is 1,784 pound-feet. So, can you snatch 1,784 pounds? Because that would be the feat needed to act as a solid member of the bike at that time to completely arrest it. Maybe you could slowly edge the weight down to stabilize it, but never act as a solid enough member to stop it on your own.

I think everyone comments on it that a better use of your strength if you're still holding on is to keep the bike upright until the wobble stops. If you keep the throttle rolled off and allow it to decelerate naturally without applying any front brakes (instant crash if you do) the wobble will go away as the bike stabilizes, it just requires you to keep it upright until it does.

>>28583569
Also if you watch Doodle's vid on her crashing, first thing she does is grab the brake which makes it worse while also whiskeying the throttle as it jolts in her hand. The first thing to grab is the clutch, second thing to do is shift to neutral, then apply only rear brake while steering with lean.

>>28583556
did you whip out your hog and rape her? she was literally asking for it.

>>28583556
She wants you to hog-tie her to the back and take her to your biker gang rape club just like in her romance novels.

>>28583569
>so, can you snatch 1,784 pounds?
yeah, what am I, a fucking pussy? I can curl 1784.

>>28583577
idk you're welcome to try then. But I'm talking a full-on snatch.

Kawaii bros

>>28583573
>>28583576
She is Def the "I like it rough" type. So smol. But also fun to banter with
>>28583577
Can you be my dad?!?! I'll bring you a cold beer and try n fail to hold the flashlight straight

>>28583583
>Can you be my dad?!?! I'll bring you a cold beer and try n fail to hold the flashlight straight
yes, come home son.
bring the asian pussy with you.

>>28583026
If you a fail a CBT you may well be profoundly retarded. I fucking crashed when I did mine like 20 years ago and still passed. Good luck anon and welcome to the world of bikes.

>>28583042
if helmets don't expire why do I have to refill mine?

>>28583585
Bring uncle frank! She requires to be air tight.

>>28583552
>2025
>still using liquid cooled helmets like a cuck

>>28583569
>1,784 pounds
Where the fuck did you even get this number? Also are you a twink?

>>28583572
Based doddle watcher

>>28583628
>Where the fuck did you even get this number?
a little place I like to call my asshole, your dad would know all about it

>>28583634
Wow, rude. I'm leaving the thread and I won't be posting my bike.

>>28583634
so basically if you are strong enough, you could overpower a deathwobble.

>>28583572
>Shift to neutral
>Steering with lean
You should try riding a motorcycle before you post motorcycle related advice

>>28583628
I used this calculator
https://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/physics/force.php
it's stupid math, assuming the bike's full weight is pressed against the front tire (it's not) assuming you're going exactly 80 (you're not) but at the end of the day, you're still snatching over 1500 pounds of force.

>>28583644
No, you're not snatching over 1500 pounds of force at the angle you would be riding a bike at. Keep it upright.

>>28583679
I don't see what's wrong with either of those things. Have you never steered with lean before?

>>28583543
only ever death wobbled once at like 30mph and i just put my feet down, no clutch or brakes, and slowed down to like 10-15mph and it stopped wobbling

>>28583698
What boots?

>>28582977
If you can, go gen 1, if you can’t, literally any will be good. Like I said there’s usually a 15-50 buck fix for anything that can possibly happen on these machines

>>28583703
I'd love to buy even a beaten down Gen 1 but everyone is only selling Gen 2s, from what I've heard there's a good reason those stay on the market forever while the Gen 1s are snatched up instantaneously

>>28583698
>and i just put my feet down
Used your shoes to slow the bike down or bumped the bike with that?

>>28583271
I didnt take a msf and I taught myself in one afternoon. I ride a 650. 50cc is nothing.

>>28583702
i have no idea, i don't think i was even wearing boots, i didn't put my feet down super hard to aid in slowing down it was mostly just engine braking, it was near 20 years ago

>>28583628
Bro....dyel?!?!

>>28583582
your kawa looks sick

>>28583569
>>28583572
>>28583577
>>28583628
>Steer with body position!!!
>Rear brake only!!!
>HURRR MUSCLE IT OUT
Midwits, the lot of you. Professionals figured this out decades ago.
https://youtu.be/z3OQTU-kE2s?si=FYmFSsidzy_dskCM

Does anyone here know much about the Yamaha majesty? Are they reliable

>>28583763
>MUSCLE IT OUT

>>28583763
>fireball+everclear
guaranteed blackout

>>28583572
>>28583569
The biggest problem was that she was riding a Janus, the biggest pieces of shit you can burn your money on. I if was her, I would fucking sue their asses for giving me that hunk of shit. "All the stars aligned so she falls" my ass

>Y A M A H A
Y A M A H A

>>28582540
>you need a light bike with a precisely tuned suspension to really get it like an olly

You really don't though; You make the bike do the work by controlling your body position, brakes, traction, clutch and throttle.

~430lbs Tenere still on it's shit OEM suspension

guys i've ridden my motorcycle like 10 times this year tops

do i sell or trade it for something else?

>>28583889

Granted it is MUCH easier to do with good suspension

>same bike with ~8k suspension

>these mf'ers doing calculations to overcome a death wobble
Nigger, literally just let off the bars and it will fix itself, holy shit. You're only making it worse by trying to stop it.

>>28583890
I haven't ridden either of my motorcycles in 3 years
I'm not selling either

>>28583899
>I CANT JUST MUSCLE IT OUT!
Here is your post but way cuter.

>>28583926
Kill yourself Lawrenceville chomo

>Got a 2015 675R
>had some initial troubles with it because it was a bike basically sitting for 5 years
>Ridding longer as I chase away gremlins and the things that feel weird
>Start disliking longer rides on the bike and as I use it for more daily stuff.
I don't think this was the kind of bike i was looking for.
I was avoiding but i might just try and get a the gsx 8t or the new hornet. Maybe there's someone selling a gsxs750

>its bully hours again
IM OUT, BE BACK LATER WHEN THERES FRENS AND ANIME

>>28583889
>only 430
Bro....dyel

>>28583943
If you like the engine, trade for a striple.
>>28583958
Kill yourself and never come back

>>28583958
>anime
Raimu bros

>>28583943
Get that hornet it's bet best bang for your buck now, it just barely beat the long standing value champion the gsxr750, triples are gay as fuck and weak as shit poverty engines no sense in fooling with them, and they sound horrible.

>>28583980

ye

>>28583943
Either pick the SV650 or just go for the Hornet, I personally like the GSX-8S more but man it's expensive.

>moore mafia took the harley pill
this is it bros, harley is gonna bounce back!

https://youtu.be/1erJ26Hy8qE?si=_Jzu1wPi-MlbaTDC

>>28583988
did you say you lost your job because you lost your shit at work? what threw you over?

>>28584005
>Limited to 125mph.
>Void warranty if you remove it.
>$110k
Yikes.

/o/kay guys, I need some general advice. if you have 5 minutes for my story i'd be grateful.

>38 yr old single male, employed, EU
>driving cars since 2006
>got my motorcycle licence in 2007, haven't driven a motorcycle since
>riding was super accessible and fun
>but I somehow scared myself out of it by catastrophizing on horror stories about moms in minivans just ramming me off the road while typing on their phones
>been getting the itch for years, now I' finally am able blow money on a (used?) bike without it really hurting my overall financial plans and situation

So, how do I get back into it?
I've put aside money for gear (helmet, gloves, boots, jacket, back protector) and repairs.
The real questions seems to be on what bike to get:
>only interested in naked bikes up to 9000 EUR/USD
>prefer to only buy from dealerships, used bikes arent a problem
>max age, mileage, hp...?

As of right now, the 2025 Kawasaki Z900 or Yamaha MT-09 are what I'm gunning for.

I've been talking to people who drilled the important of normal ABS and cornering ABS into my head. Having looked into it a bit further and seeing how it seems to be able to save inexerperience riders from slides and accidents, it doesn't look like a bad idea.
The downside is having corverning ABS as a "must have" eliminates any pre ~2022 used bikes that I could've gotten for maybe 6000 €/$.
How important is cornering ABS really? Would love to hear some first hand experiences.

Also, are LED headlights overhyped or actually worth it?

TL;DR, I want to get my first bike almost 2 decades after getting the licence and have only a vague idea of where to start and what to get. Any help is appreciated.

>>28584044
why do you want a 120hp bike

>>28584044
cornering ABS is absolutely not a "must have"

>>28584051
the 120hp isn't the set-in-stone minimum, but it shouldn't be noticeably less. i'm not fully able to rationalize it of course, but I don't want to ride the bike for 2 years only to find out that I'd have been happier with more and so the whole looking for a bike spiel begins again.
the heart wants what the heart wants I guess. it's not an absolutely unreasonable wish either I think, especially for people like me who are more on the unadventurous side.

>>28584052
obviously, most people do fine without it. the question was more aimed at finding out if it's good enough to not want a bike WITHOUT it anymore, especially as a beginner or somebody who's trying to get back into it.

>>28583543
I've stopped wobble two ways.
>On pavement
Ease off the throttle, elbows out straight, relaxed grip.
>On sand
Throttle on, elbows out straight, firm grip.

>>28584063
>obviously, most people do fine without it. the question was more aimed at finding out if it's good enough to not want a bike WITHOUT it anymore, especially as a beginner or somebody who's trying to get back into it.
cornering abs is not good enough to exclude bikes without it
>>28584063
>and so the whole looking for a bike spiel begins again
you will always be looking at other bikes

>>28584051
>why do you want a 120hp bike
Why wouldnt you?
Very few people graduate to liter bikes and then say "damn this sucks, im going to sell it and buy another EX300 like I used to have".
Sure it can be "entertaining" to pull that EX300 out of the shed and take it for a store run to qwik-e-mart but aftwr a week of commuting its back in the shed and youre on the real bike again.
120hp isnt even that much anymore. The CBR600RR is hitting 120 from the factory.

>>28584044
Mt09 or XSR.

>normal ABS
Nice to have.
>How important is cornering ABS really?
Only a few brands do it really well. I've never tested cornering ABS because I've been riding long before it was a thing. Traction control has done more for me than anything. I can say with confidence its saved my ass a few times in the past two years I've had a bike with TC.

>Also, are LED headlights overhyped or actually worth it?
They're 100% better.

>>28583543
Death wobble is inherent in shitty geometry.
Either the bike is misadjusted for rider weight, has been modified or is a Harley.
Fix it or sell it because if it happened once it will happen again.
>t. Riding over 30 years and never had wobble because my bikes are dialed in.

>>28583543
I got death wobble emergency braking on a rumple strip one time. On a bike without ABS. I just rode it out till I stopped.

>>28582899
Dubs and I install this on a GS500

>>28584063
>but I don't want to ride the bike for 2 years only to find out that I'd have been happier with more and so the whole looking for a bike spiel begins again.
This is going to happen anyway, it does to almost everybody. It's been 18 years since you got your license. You're essentially in the same position as somebody deciding on a bike before they've ever been on one, because your riding experience now is going to be totally different from when you were 20. Whatever bike you get, you're going to eventually realize that there are things you don't like about it, things that you want to do that it's bad at, and maybe that you don't actually enjoy doing the stuff it's really good at. It happens and it's just going to suck way harder if you're $9k into a brand new bike and have to think about all the money you're gonna lose if you trade it in on the bike you realize you actually want in 6 months.

You're an older guy, so you might not have to get a super slow beginner bike like people recommend to teenagers with poor impulse control, but get something a little less extreme and a lot cheaper and then decide what you really want to invest in. A used MT-07 will give you basically the same experience but without having to be completely scared shitless of the throttle as a beginner and you should be able to sell it for almost as much as you paid once you figure out what you really want.

Motocamping setup is pretty much complete now. Just gotta get it packed back up and see if it all fits in my Giant Loop Coyote or if I'm gonna have to suplement with a duffel strapped on or something.

>>28583061
>1.8L
Nice girls bike, imagine having less than 1L per cylinder

>>28584097
Nice. Msr stoves are pretty great, I still have my old as dirt white gas stove and it works as well as they day I bought it. Wasn't a fan of the kelty tents I've used, though. Honestly the REI half dome is a hell of a deal (or it was last time I was looking) for what you get, solid tent

>>28583985
I should have added, I its the Street tripple 675R, not the Daytona. The engine is lovely, its the rest I'm not really jiving with, like im constantly tweaking things about the bike to suit me but im not getting any closer that sweet spot where I feel good on the bike.
>>28584004
>>28583995
I think I'll check on a hornet, see what I'll get for trade in and if its fair (it wont be). Or put it on marketplace but a lot STripple listings near me are still up from when I was looking.

Radiator guard #3.
It's actually a fun easy little project if you're bored and need something to do. Highly suggest it.
10 mesh roll and pull through zip ties.

>>28584105
The cheaper REIs were just too big for my little dual sport-sized setup. The Kelty is shockingly compact when packed, only 16" long and not super wide.

I actually own an MSR (Whisperlite International I think) but haven't been able to find it since moving, and I didn't want to deal with a fuel bottle on a bike anyway. This one's a Soto, came with the pot set and seems shockingly nice for the $50 it cost, as expected from something made in Japan I guess.

>>28583042
I looked it up and apparently my helmet is from 1998.
I've been daily-ing it for years since I got it for $15 at a thrift store.
It's just so comfy.

>>28584063
>I don't want to ride the bike for 2 years only to find out that I'd have been happier with more and so the whole looking for a bike spiel begins again.
Anon you wont find your perfect bike the first time, There is a high chance you'll look at something else, or something new will come along and you'll want it. Maybe a buddy lets you ride their bike and it feels better. Dont go into it worrying about if you'll want it 2 years, think of whats good for you in this moment.

Is it even worth owning a bike if you can't go fast? I'm at a point in my career where I'll lose my job if I get pulled over going as fast as I normally do. Tonight I tried just going no more than 10 or 15 over, and it really just didn't do it for me. Before getting into motorcycles, I thought I just wanted to cruise, but I guess I'm more of an adrenaline junkie than I realized. I have a 2016 Street Triple, so it's not even anything crazy, but my idea of a reasonable ride was never breaking 100mph.

>>28584119
O alright, that looked like one of the msr pocket rockets. I carry fuel on my bike already so it's nbd to me, but the propane bottles are less of a fuss

>>28584152
I love going fast fast, but motorcycling to me has always been about man and machine.
Wrenching on the bike, living with the bike, camping with the bike, overcoming adversity with the bike, all that good stuff.
If you only love motorcycle for the adrenaline rush they give you that's fine, but then you'll either die pretty soon or let motorcycles become just another way to get your dose. In other words a passing hobby, or at least not a MAIN hobby.

The problem with being an adrenaline junkie is things get old real fast if they don't kill you.

>the duality of man
Kek

>>28584126
Yeah I really don't buy the new helmet every 7 years bullshit. It's hard to build in obsolescence to a solid basically single piece safety device, but I'm sure they would if they could actually get away with it. Funny how just about everything breaks after 7 years and I've been called a conspiracy theorist my whole life for simply noticing Jewish tricks.
>oy vey, goyim, we can't have you just using the same helmet for two decades

However, if the helmet was stored in an attic, I probably wouldn't use it. The intense heat well definitely degrade the styrofoam.

>>28584179
>Funny how just about everything breaks after 7 years
"Planned Obsolescence" conspiracies are always my favorite. I mean, most are just legit anti-human anti-repair bullshit, but there are some awesome ones.
>The intense heat well definitely degrade the styrofoam.
That RF800 is for sure dead at this point, but cheap helmets feel so "bobble-head" in comparison that I can't justify upgrading until I can afford a GOOD helmet.

>>28584190
Honestly I just ride in an old plastic rawlings with some chinese biker goggles on rainy days

>>28584199
Fuck it
We ball

Please spoonfeed a newfag. Last couple of times i've taken my bike out the front brake lever has been misbehaving, like I can pull it tight and my bike stops but if I keep holding the brake lever it loosens and I can slowly draw it all the way back to my grip and the brake just stops working. The brake fluid looks ok to me as far as colour and level go so I'm not really sure what the problem might be. Any tips?

>>28584211
Is there brake fluid leaking out from your calipers?
Make sure your reservoir caps are sealed as to not let air in.

>>28584211
master cylinder faliure, good luck just in case you die!

>>28584228
I'm not seeing any leaks and it looks like everything is sealed normally
>>28584242
Looks easy enough to replace, can I get this done without taking it into a shop?

>>28584190
I would agree with that sentiment generally, but if the WEF kikes are being so brazen with the "you'll own nothing and be happy", I don't believe there isn't a conspiracy at some level for shit to break. I have a buddy with his own shop as well and most of his appliances are 1950s and older. Never serviced and still working. It's insane how high quality things actually were back then and it's not a meme, I've seen it and held it. My 1968 Chrysler is living proof. It's mostly original and has been on the road for over 50 years.

As far as helmets go, just hit up marketplace. You can find a used shoei for a good price.

>>28584211
Your master cylinder is leaking internally past the seals. You need to replace it.

>>28583313
Just buy good gear.
If you have a $1000 bike or a $10000 bike, you should wear the same gear.
I think my first set of gear was about $900 for everything, my bike was $1500
My current bike was 10k, my current gear is like $1500

>>28584179
>>28584190
FWIW my helmet's pads got noticeably looser after just two years of near daily riding, but I just replaced them instead of the whole helmet. That's the whole result of the study, they found that the PADS got worse.

>>28584258
Thanks anon, I'll get that replaced asap

All safety gear "expires" in 5 years. Helmets, racing seats, harnesses, baby car seats, hard hats, literally all of it "expires", because without the expiration, no one would buy it again unless they crashed and it got damaged.

>>28584258
>My 1968 Chrysler is living proof. It's mostly original and has been on the road for over 50 years.
Genuinely insane to me people buy new cars for $50k ($600 monthly payments) that are worse in every way in comparison to older cars.
safety is arguably the only factor which new cars are better at, and even that is debatable because of bad visibility is in modern cars.

>>28584275
Do modern cars have bad visibility? Why are they so fucking big if not to give the driver better visibility?

>>28584278
>Do modern cars have bad visibility?
Yes. Drive some shitbox from the 90s or earlier some time.
>Why are they so fucking big if not to give the driver better visibility?
Pigfat in the name of "crumple zones"

>>28584278
>Do modern cars have bad visibility?
Yes
Horrendous

>>28584278
Yes, it's awful, please see this rage monologue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw-3zLZheII&t=162s

>>28584293
2013 really was the last year of good cars

>>28584278
Yes, most cars A pillars obscure motorcycles several hundred feet away.

>>28584280
>>28584282
>>28584293
>>28584308
That's fucking stupid. I hate carniggers so much

>>28584278
It's not even a comparison.

>>28584280
Old boss had to drive my 1990 MX5 w/ hardtop home for me one day because shuffling work vehicles.
>Oh my god, it's like being in a tin-can fishbowl. I could see _everything_ and the side mirrors covered just about half of it (convex).
If you get into a crash you are dead.exe but still. Currently driving a company 2019 Nissan Navara and you can't even see properly over the rear deck because the rearview mirror is almost in the centre of the fucking windshield - why not at the top so you can actually see shit behind you, I just don't understand. Economic tho, averages about the same mpg as my TL1000s.

>>28584262
Yeah the pads in my rf1400 were toast after 2 years of near daily riding. I got new pads and I'm wearing a used rfsr now as my daily helmet.

>>28584263
No problem my dude

>>28584275
New cars are obscene. I love my 2024 QX60 but it's a company lease and there's no way in hell I'd pay for it myself. Visibility is atrocious. All the safety features have made it that way and just about necessitate back up cameras. Makes it harder to see bikes as well.
New cars have a lot of convenience and tech features. They're really quiet. They drive nice with the new 9 speed automatic transmissions. That's about it though. I doubt this next generation of cars is going to last very long.
My '68 Chrysler has power sliding front bench seat that still works and all of the cables that operate are encased in copper tubing, just to give you an idea of how much better things were built back then.

>>28584278
Yeah dude it sucks. Safety features and crumple zones.

>>28583763
The guy in the video is, in fact, steering with body position, that's how he can have his hands off the handlebars at 2:30
Please take your own advice, midwit.

>>28583855
> "All the stars aligned so she falls"
Nobody said this. Schizophrenia speaks.

>>28584278
>Do modern cars have bad visibility?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7mSXMruEo
It's one of the grand ironies that the biggest and heaviest cars on the road also have the worst visibility while having the most horsepower to speed the fastest (which they do all of the time)

>>28584337
NTA but she more or less says this herself. She claims that a series of things that were individually no problem piled up to cause her drop. She also acknowledged that the dude behind her experienced all of those things except being her and didn't drop his bike, so she's just coping.

>>28584331
Going straight is not steering you fucking retard.

>>28584346
>Keeping the bike straight with your body position is not steering
>Almost every deathwobble video including Doodles has them lose control the moment they leave the lane because they focus on the wobble and not the steering
You're genuinely fucking retarded and I don't think you even ride a bike.

>>28584348
The bike generally just wants to go in a straight line. Taking your hands off of the handlebars demonstrates this. It doesn't matter whether the front wheel is currently wobbling or not. EVEN IF we were to count the VERY SLIGHT input you can have with your hips on the bike, that is not the definitive method to control a wobble.

>>28584339
Crazy, isn't it?
We banned pop-up headlights because they're not ergonomic in the event of a ped v. car.

>>28584352
>The bike generally just wants to go in a straight line.
When the bike is wobbling, you can't use the front to steer it to keep it in the lane anymore, that's why Doodle went off the road and crashed. That's why most of these death wobble videos that end in a crash happen because they go off the road. The first and foremost thing is to keep the bike upright and controllable.

Hey guize what ya'll talkin aboot

If you have enough horsepower you can power wheelie out of a death wobble

>>28583823
>everclear+0=blackout
ftfy

>>28584044
checked
>So, how do I get back into it?
Go retake the MSF. I didn't read all that about ABS, but anons will say to get a beginner bike 500cc or lower (depending on engine configuration and shiiiet). Go get a GS500, Ninja 400 or 250, DRZ400, and ride it for a little while. Then you'll want to get a nicer bike. GOOSE LUCK

>>28584109
better than expected. nice

>>28584044
I have a '24 MT-09 and love it, only thing is that it basically requires an ECU flash to fix 2nd gear. It can be a torque monster and will fuck you if you whiskey throttle it, which is obviously a concern with you not riding in 18 years.
Normal ABS is great, don't see much point of cornering ABS, but better not need it have it than need it and not have it sort of thing.

>>28584268
"Expiration" is because it fell off the shelf.
Or you dropped it in the parking lot.
That actually compresses the foam and reduced the protection rating.
Even without a crash your helmet has been compromised.
Im not even a shill- im running a helmet i got for 5 bucks from a crackhead with a snell 90 sticker.
Because fuck it, im old and any years I have left are going to be in a retirement home so let me go out as I lived.

But if you want to get old like me.
Spend the money.

>>28584376
GS500 mentioned

>>28584383
>That actually compresses the foam and reduced the protection rating.
The drop thing is bullshit by the way, foam doesn't compress without your heavy ass head in it when it's dropped.

>>28584384
erm.... BASED?

>>28584387
Hell
Yeah
Brother

>>28584390
>me on the lrigefht

>>28584397
are you okay?

>>28584339
>notjustbikes
Get that faggot shit outta here.

>>28584362
>TL1000
This guy doesn't fuck around.

>>28584399
yermst checked

>>28584400
He's not saying anything we haven't said for decades. He's just a mega homo boy loving fag about it.
4'1 women drivers shouldn't have access to a 2025 Cadillac Escalade that's the size of a house with 600hp.

>>28584403
>He's not saying anything we haven't said for decades. He's just a mega homo boy loving fag about it.
Then we are on the same page.

>>28584401
>Slaps tank
You can fit so ma-

>>28583900
I drew that lol. (the other side are nudes)

Do you think this color is effeminate?

>>28584446
^ this person has insecurities. I'd ride a hot pink bike I wouldn't give 2 fucks.

>>28584447
I've been thinking about pink plasti-dipping my TL, then I thought about some 2K candy with flakes...

>>28584446
You do you, man. It's your bike. Do you like the colour? Ride it.
Imagine buying something based on whether or not random fucking people will like it.

>>28584464
amen

>>28584478
Just to hammer this home - how many people thinking about the colour of their bike when riding it?
Obviously if you have some rainbow cum pink and sprinkles that's probably your prerogative, but I feel that's the exception to the rule. Bike go brr, I am having a whole fun, end of story.

>>28582888
love the colour of those plastics anon. very elegant

tfw the random aliexpress tail light I gambled on fits perfectly and actually looks good
feels good man.
will post a before and after soon when I have time to actually secure it properly

>>28584447
>t.

>>28584514
Why are septum piercings such a crazy escalation for red flags?

>>28584537
The nose ring was the red flag for you in that pic?

Like ear gauges, they just signal someone isnt right in the head. Plus i always imagine them with a cold, green strings of snot dangling off the metal.

Why did nobody tell me that used Goldwings are so cheap?

>>28584546
I can look past a lot of things as phases or adhering to pressure exerted by a social clique but septum piercings are, and can only be, an individualistic choice.
One that I will not accept, no sirree Bob. Not a single chick I've personally met has made it under under my own bar for fun:crazy and I can only assume the male component is much, much worse.

>>28584468
Omg what does that taste like

>>28584616
salty coins and milk

selfie time

>>28584745
>no flipflops

>>28584748
yea I was also riding with flipflops the other day. I'm not proud of it but I ride so many miles I don't care at this point.

>>28584745
Hawt

/adventure/

>>28584077
because it's his first bike you little nigger

I bought a honda today

>>28584829
All you firstbike jannoids need to die

>Still no F850GS

:(

>>28584077
Light bikes are just more fun

>>28584857
It may not be a Yama', but it's still nice.

>>28584857
Very nice

>>28584077
I went back from literbike to a mid sized adv bike
Gotta go fast is sanic the hedgehog autism

>>28584872
>Dudes worried about cornering ABS
>Dudes not worried about 120+HP
Makes sense

>>28584879
the r6 looks nice but every one in my area is overpriced and it sits quite tall for me.

>>28584879
Fuck you. Atleast Honda doesn't lie about RPM numbers and the frames don't break.

>>28584077
>120hp isn't even that much anymore.
Maybe if your focus is winning highway pulls against a bunch of young guys on bank owned bikes. I'm not saying its not cool to have a high horse power bike. They it if you go to the drag strips. But even many tracks most never even go over 140mph on a 180hp liter bike because the back strait is too short. Hell even look at some of the psycho youtubers, in the canyons 600s keep up just fine.

>>28584446
Nah, it's just a blue bike.

>>28584905
>Atleast Honda doesn't lie about RPM numbers
THIS WAS RECTIFIED YAMAHA OFFERED BUY BACKS BUT NOBODY DID IT BECAUSE THEY GOT SO MUCH KANDO FOR THEIR MONEY QUIT BRINGING THIS UP

>>28584971
based 600 shill

Level with me dbt....is cfmoto actually good? I can't really find anything bad about them.
Gf is probably going to be buying a bike in January. She really wants a ninja500 but we haven't even thought of cfmoto yet.

>>28585039
i think the 450ss looks pretty good, also it has a factory 2 year warranty vs the kawi's 1 year

>>28585021
>kando
HEEY MAMA HONNA MAKE YOU MOVE GONNA MAKE YOU SWEAT GONNA MAKE YOU GROOVE
>kando doesnt real
AHHHHHHH

>>28585039
YOURE SUPPOSED TO BE THE CHOSEN ONE ANAKIN, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY THE CHINK NOT JOIN THEM

>>28585039
I think if they were typical chink trash then I think by now we would've heard more about engines blowing up or whatever. That said, they're still not Japanese.

>>28585063
Hopefully you won't even have to use your warranty, which was the case with zx14. Cfmoto seems to be good though.

>>28585077
Yeah. She seems pretty set on the ninja500 though. She really likes it and it fits her well, she's short. The MSRP actually is about the same for the cfmoto 450.

>graduating to bigger displacement
>Real Bike
>first bike
>all the gear all the time
post the worst

What are the least powerful and sporty motorcycles with cornering abs currently sold in US? Does Honda 600 actually have it? Yamaha or Kawasaki 900, for not being supersprats? V-Strom 1050?

>>28585039
They're probably fine, but I don't think they'll last. I don't think I've seen a single high mileage one yet

>>28585113
KTM Duke 390? or CB300R both have cornering ABS.

>>28585124
Oh nice, thank you, I have assumed I'd need something on the bigger side to get it, but even CBR300 has one now.

>>28583907
>bell
found your problem
my 19 year old crashed shoei doesn't even have that problem lmao

>>28585108
Atgatt fags are by far the worst

>>28585077
>they're still not Japanese
neither is the Ninja 500

>rider AIDS
is this what growing up on söy does to you?
get on my level nubes

>>28585263
the mito was a legendary first bike in italy, but you could at least used something else instead of literally the first pic of google image to show it.

Did you ride this weekend anons?
I think i'll go to the RE stealership next weekend and see how much i can haggle for a guerrilla since i'm back to being nobike

>>28585284
I ride almost every day but I'm regularly surprised to see how few miles self described riders have on their bikes. Maybe it's just the ones I've seen and all the real riders never get new ones

>didn't wear gear other than helmet and gloves when it's cold since 2014
idk what to tell you, I just like wearing different clothes

>>28585284
200 miles this weekend visiting my parents in Jew York City to make the years tomato sauce

>>28585289
>tfw ride to work
>tfw short commute
If I rode every day but just to work and did it every single day I’d only put 2500 miles on a bike
So I think you can ride a lot without riding a lot

>>28585289
Here in northern europe i see a lot of bikes with very few kilometers in being sold as used (talking like <10k, usually <5k), even new or kinda expensive ones that maybe even got restricted because the owner couldn't get a full license yet.
or stuff with like 50k kilometers or more, but those are rare.
Italy is the opposite where you see a lot of bikes that had one owner and have a stupid ammount of Kilometers in them being sold only because the owner is getting older or they don't have the space to keep it, the motorcycle culture is very strong in the boot, i know a younger coworker bought a new transalp at the end of last year as hist first ever bike (restricted because he can't get a full A license) and this summer he did italy-romania with it and had so much fun.

In my case i put 5k kilometers on my bike before "selling it" but i didn't use it as a commuter and i had it for like less than 7 months.
If i didn't have problems with registering it here where i live now i would have surely kept it for more but even keeping it in italy would have been a problem so i'm kinda forced in that reguard.

>>28585192
I just think looking like a kamen rider or an adventurer while riding is cool

>>28585309
Ah italian origins right? i don't like riding or driving in cities so i can only assume that such a big american one is a special kind of hellhole

>>28585309
Fair. I commute 30 miles each way and tide a lot on the weekends so miles rack up. Most of my weekend riding happens on my dual sport though tbf

>>28585309
I have 2 cars and 2 motorcycles
None of my shit has many miles :0

>>28585319
For me riding and driving in New York City is fine, I grew up there so it’s where I learned to do those things and I still live in a city, though obviously a smaller one.
Tomato sauce is about the only thing left of our “Italian origins,” my father married a Spaniard and then so did I.

>>28585324
I hope those are ancient petroglyphs reveared by the natives you're riding on bud. Because that would be based

>>28585334
Yeah scrawled by the tweaker natives

>>28585284
Mito is a hot chicks car,
I don't know anyone that fails that test.

Do they make cheaper boots that aren't really meant for walking with? I don't really need a sole or any ergonomics i just want the protection

Kinda like how bicycles have shoes that aren't meant for walking

>>28582882 (OP)
new thread

>>28585342
>>28585342
>>28585342

>>28585319
I just think atgatt looks really goofy on my scooter also its regularly over 38 degrees here

>>28582899
should be standard

>>28585039
CFMoto is good. The only bad thing that I've heard is that apparently the factory prioritises new builds over replacement parts, so they can be hard to find when something obscure breaks.
Still, I'd go for the Ninja 500. They don't depreciate at all, so you're going to have a much lower lifecycle cost for an extremely similar bike. The 450SR will sound better, feel sportier (especially if you get the 450SR-S) and probably perform better.
But the Ninja 500 will be both better to learn on and better as a forever bike. It also has more third-party modification support, it's easier to find manuals and advice online, and you also just won't have to constantly explain to everyone how your bike is "actually just as good, and better in some ways!".

It probably isn't relevant to you in Texas, but here in Australia a LOT of people never go beyond the 400/500cc class. And I think it says something that I can't find any CFMoto 450s with more than 10,000km (literally one year of decent ownership) at the moment, while there are a few Kawasaki 400s with 40,000 and 50,000km on them. I don't think they're breaking down, I just think people are upgrading.

>>28585340
Just get a second-hand pair. I gave away a pair of old boots recently. They were the same as new boots, but the sole had worn down so much that my foot would slip out from underneath me when I stopped my bike in the rain. That should suit your requirements perfectly.

>>28583421
There's a guy i know selling two superhawks together for 500 bucks, one in bad shape with a good motor. The other just recently restored with a blown motor. CCT failure. This was like a month ago.