You think MK ultra was about dosing people with LSD and using electroshock therapy? Or putting illuminati symbolism in Lady Gaga music videos? All misdirection. "Official documents" put forth by FOIA say that MK Ultra failed.
>oh, we were never able to create sleeper agents who could be activated by saying a random string of words, tee-hee!
That's all bullshit. Why do they need sleeper agents to be activated when they can assassinate people in a thousand different, untraceable ways? The real goal of MK Ultra was mass mind control, and contrary to popular belief, it was UNBELIEVABLY SUCCESSFUL.
MK Ultra may have subdivisions of research, but its primary method of mind control is video media. Why? Because out of all forms of media (text, audio, pictures, etc) video media has the most powerful effect on people and groups of people. From now on I will refer to video media as "movies", but it includes TV, advertisements, ticktocks, etc. Research has shown that when different people read the same thing, they can form VERY different opinions. However when different people watch the same video, they usually cluster closer into forming similar opinions.
1) Humans are unable to distinguish between reality and movies. Everyone will say they can because they don't want to sound dumb, but our brains did not evolve to process movies. We literally think they are real unless we consciously make an effort to separate them from reality, which basically no one does because no one thinks that we think movies are real. In fact if you tell someone this, they will probably mock you for being low IQ or something and being unable to understand that "it's just a movie, man".... Yes, you probably don't think that Thanos is out there cruising the universe for the infinity stones... but... 1/5

>>508971063 (OP)
2) SUBCONSCIOUSLY you absorb all the behaviors and attitudes of protagonists in films. Human beings are evolved to emulate people who are socially successful, wealthy, beautiful, etc. This is an evolutionary survival strategy because it works in real life. If you emulate how Jeff Bezos behaves (in that he's a cut throat, megalomaniacal asshole who crushes competition and isn't afraid to literally take what he wants, who studies people's flaws and exploits them for his gain, etc) you will probably be successful. Or if you emulate your local business owner with a great work ethic who works 7 days a week and focuses on nothing else than his business, you will probably be successful. But what do movies do? They present you with a fictional character who is usually very socially acceptable. The problem? You will try to emulate this FAKE BEHAVIOR which fucks you over in real life.
I'll use women as an example, but men also are vulnerable to this (though less). Sex in the city was legendary in how it turned an entire generation of women into 45 year olds with no husband or kids, bitter, angry, psychotic, addicted to wine and prescription pills, and hateful of the world and of men. This tv series shows women 4 very socially successful characters bounce around New York high society, fucking chads and living their dreams and doing whatever they want, and in the end it WORKS OUT FOR ALL THE CHARACTERS. Therefore women decided to emulate this "successful" behavior and it ruined their fucking lives. 2/5

>>508971143
What about for men? Men might look at someone like Tony Stark and think that it is realistic to be some kind of super genius who can solve anything instantly and create anything they want. Or they might look at someone like Vin Diesel in fast and furious and think that it's good to "never back down from a challenge" or shit like "muh friends are muh family and they always come first". These things are NOT true in real life, but many men believe them because they have subconsciously absorbed "successful" social behavior from movies.
3) Movies can do this to you because they literally create false memories. MOVIES CREATE MEMORIES IN YOUR HEAD, THAT ARE NOT REAL AND NOT BASED UPON THE RULES OF REALITY. Once you understand this, you begin to realize how fucked up everyone is since everyone consumes like 50+ hours of media a week. People spend more time watching video media than they do interacting with real people, which means that people have MORE FAKE MEMORIES THAN REAL ONES. This is not good.
Think about what is happening with black people. In real life, reality, no one fucking likes black people. They are dumb, dirty, loud, disrespectful, violent, will steal, etc. and literally are a nuisance to be around... but why is everyone so sympathetic to them? Because MK Ultra has created false memories in your head about black people. EVERY SINGLE BLACK PERSON you see in media is some doe-eyed Daniel Kaluuya type retard who is soulful, resourceful, noble, kind, can do no wrong, and is a victim of white racism. EVERY SINGLE black person you see in advertisements are basically white people with black skin. Black people are portrayed as angels in media and they are never morally corrupt and if they are it's because of what whites did to them. 3/5

>>508971191
FAKE MEMORIES about blacks have been put in everyone's heads, which is why liberals (most people) cannot see reality and push for more diversity, more immigration (only from black and brown nations though... weird). Everything literally believes that blacks are only down because they are oppressed by whites, due to fake memories, why is why everything is so fucked up right now such as universities removing SAT score requirements and such.
4) Niggers. I think that black people are the most targeted and most affected by MK Ultra. This is probably for many reasons (blacks have lower IQ, easier to trick, easier to convince, they also don't read anything and all their information is obtained through video media). Black people are literally trained by movies/tv/advertisements to react negatively to white people, or anybody, for the slightest perceived infringement on their blackness or for one iota of perceived racism. In real life, if someone accidentally says something that offends you, you just ignore it and continue on. Yes, what they said might have been rude, but if you flip your shit people will just think you're a retarded dumbass who can't control your emotions, is childlike, and can't be trusted with serious matters where people need to keep their cool even if something offensive is said... which is what literally every single human being thinks of black people in 2022. If you say anything that is even remotely perceived as racist/offensive to blacks in real life, they will flip their shit and challenge you. This makes people hate black people, and black people were mind controlled into doing this by repeated viewings of "socially successful" black people in their false memories created by movies. Black people WERE NOT ALWAYS LIKE THIS. They were always dumber and more violent than other races, but this new social aggressiveness where everyone has to walk on egg shells around blacks is NEW. 4/5

>>508971227
5) Women. I think everyone here understands what MK ultra has done to women. It makes them hostile towards men, unhappy (because in reality, 95% of women will not be more happy with a career than they would be mothers and married to a decent man), and single and childless well into their 40s.
>but this is impossible to do
Not really. Very few people can ignore or filter out the delusions of mass media entertainment. 1) Because they are literally never exposed to genuine conspiracy theories and don't have a critical thought process 2) they are too burdened by the grind of life to think about this kind of shit, so they just go with "the flow".
Well, MK Ultra controls "the flow". 5 libtard media companies control everything, and then there's fox news. Fox news only exists as a ping pong paddle to hit the ball back to the liberal media conglomerates. No real ideas or perspectives are ever discussed on Fox, it's all just reactionary and inflammatory. It is completely useless as a thought vehicle and traps people into being passive viewers of the MK Ultra agenda. It just exists to catch all the people who weren't caught by Disney, CNN, MSNBC, etc.
This all really started taking off in the 60s (when MK Ultra was started), but it hasn't gotten seriously ridiculous until about 10 years ago. Social media, "binge watching" streaming services, etc all kicked this into over drive. Watch a video of someone talking from the 60s, 70s, even 80s. They sound clear headed and "one" with reality. Now look at someone talk now a days, they literally sound like brainwashed delusional retards BECAUSE THEY ARE. 5/5

Best thread on /pol/ rn

Bump

>>508971191
This is why there has been an abundance of nigger actors playing lead roles and acting as if they were some upstanding and some morally superior character. What effect did LoTR have on people though?

>>508973436
White savior complex obviously, one of the last films of its kind. Amazon ruined its legacy, and any sane person would not have considered that show as canon, but as blatant nigger propaganda.

The average /pol/ user doesn't even have the attention span to read all of this, no wonder why this thread is being slid.

>>508973747
Modern films are actual trash, I think they honestly started to become just cashgrab slops for retards with no taste after the pandemic. That was also around the time movie theatres were struggling and people stopped going to watch films, and I don't think the movie industry has ever recovered from that.

Devon Stack makes quality deep dives on movies and such on the Insomnia stream

>>508971929
I know right?
>>508971063 (OP)
Bump also smoke my cigarrette in two smokes pilled

>>508974797
Based and Stackpilled.
He also really likes bees.
>>508971063 (OP)
BASED EFFORTPOST. Today, OP is not a faggot. Good job, OP!

>>508971063 (OP)
Oh, look, and actual human-made thread. Shocking

>>508971929
>a copypasta thread is the best thread
grim

>>508973905
This needs to be bumped to the moon rn

>>508975324
>>508975639
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/390529426/#390529426
Actually, I took it from here, but I feel the need to repost it from time to time to remind people.

incel thread

>>508975753
What else do you have on mk ultra?

>>508975649
Yeah, I'd rather talk about ecelebs, BBCs and white women, indians, hating on women, etc.

>>508975917
This, that's it basically.

>>508974797
He went off the deep end as of late
However he did have some good shit early on
Wanna slice?

>>508976007
I'm zooming but it blurry halp

>>508976230
What are you asking for newfren?

>>508976425
To zoom the thingy so i can readz i got boomer skills in this shit

Most midwit-tier thread of the month. Did you just take your first psychology class in high school or something?

>>508976535
>Open the file in a new tab
>remove the m from filename
>if error: change .jpg to .png
>profit

>>508976425
This?
>>508976007
What does it say young one?

>>508976790
Oh.uhhh...ok
Thank you , sry i'm just a farmer

>>508976230
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/390493557/#q390494050
Try this fren

>>508976617
>oy vey shut it down!!

>>508977081

true. i watched a lot of james bond movies as a child all the way through teens, played the goldeneye game also. now all i want is to be a secret spy. too bad i never trained for it. and i'm not british.

>>508971063 (OP)

Nice thread. Empirically speaking I find this to be true, " video media the most powerful medium in group control". The obvious response is to remove its common use and provide training on identifying toxic aspects or common tools for these purposes.

I remember a good example was the passed and calculated delivery of those comedy central shows in the 2010's.

Do you have data or information or books to reference on studies or experiments based around this premise?

>>508977671
Been lurking for a while but i never caught this thread i'm afraid
Pretty eye opening really

I think everything can be attributed to normie NPC stupidity because they don't think and only react to external stimuli.
Brainwashing can occur through other media, like books (50 Shades of Grey, for example) and even the spoken word - look at how wildly successful religion is.
Real humans have no problem separating fiction from reality.
Btw, for me, it's Eunchae, Hanni and chimp.

trying to find an analysis of media and how exactly it socially engineers humans any resauces?

>>508978078
Yes please

>>508977671
>identifying toxic aspects or common tools for these purposes
You can't learn it. You can only be born with it.
Many of us here have much in common, like being able to sniff out propaganda, but it's not like we learned to do it here, we already knew that things are fishy and congregated to this one place where there is relative freedom of information to find the truth.

>>508978078
Vigilantcitizen(.)com

>We literally think they are real unless we consciously make an effort to separate them from reality
This must be why I can't help but mock movies, even good movies are retarded.

The fact that lower iq niggers and jeets would fall for this is really....i agree
I fell for this shit when i was younger with the iron man movie the first one
It was sooo....yeah this shit is real
This mass mk ultra on the public

>>508978078

>>508978078
McLuhan and Innis. From the days of based leafs

>>508978304
I agree, but I must say that the system has become very skilled at using media to inoculate the masses against ideas.

People can be trained and learn identifying skills from the thought leaders.

>>508980298
Its probably very sophisticated nowadays

>>508971302
>women will not be more happy with a career than they would be mothers and married
They will banging a different guy every night met on dating apps though

>>508980298
You can't teach an NPC to not be an NPC. At best it can act like a parrot, and your system suffers from its overreliance on extreme centralization.

>>508980434
They would like you to believe that

>>508971063 (OP)
This somehow managed to both be schizo and incredibly based at one

>>508980609
What % of the population as a whole u think are npcs?

>>508980835
Around 85-90%, as per the clot shot statistics.

>>508973905
>propaganda works
yeah, and?

>>508980794
Kek , they've been beating thia dead horse for a while then?

>>508980892
Hard times ahead i guess

>>508981069
This shit's been going on for a while so, don't think it will be MUCH harder than it has been till now

>>508977928
My only question is, what even is currently being programmed into the modern NPC? This copypasta was made almost 3 years ago, and much has changed. I never watch TV shows, but I have watched the White Lotus because of my ex, and many aspects in that show, cuckoldery, inceldom, women being superior, men are 2nd in the household, sex is casual, etc., are things that you would not have seen in media in the past, as those topics would have been taboo, or in this case, the NPCs weren't ready for that type of programming yet.
Based chimp enjoyer.

>>508981185
Tablets and smartphones have been around since when?2006? Yeah we'll see what zoomers end up like, zoomers and alphas is it ? Thr new generation will feel the brunt of this shit

>>508981298
Whatever benefits the elites at any given moment. We've gone past the brainwashing phase already. We're in the control phase

Recent elections within multiple countries show how the masses just vote for the politician their phone tells them to. It's all a psyop. It's more visible these days because of the politicial tensions rising

>>508971063 (OP)
the problem with Mk-Ultra is that if you are non-semitic as in non-brown, they will use it to destroy your life but if you're brown, they will use it to built your life, that's the difference between a victim of mk-ultra or a successful colored person.

the same suggestions, predictive programming and induced magical thinking that they do to your family to destroy it, they do to brownoids to succeed in life.

for you is a maze of constant punishment in doubled edged rigged situation where they will use everything to destroy your family, to the semitic shit colored mason, they will do the inverse, every suggestion and every induced magical thought is to get access to resources that will multiply in between their families since instead of being a discredited, demoralized and disfavored person as victim, he will be a credited, moralized and favored person as in a patriarchal, a thing un-achievable for the non-semite or the non-colored.

Does autism make me impervious or more susceptible to mk ultra programming?

>>508981442
As a zoomer myself, i already see it. It's NOT good. I try to make em think independently for like 5 seconds and they immediately start becoming aggressive. MKUltra got them

>>508981583
Do u need to ask?

>>508981069
The hard times came a long time ago, with the advent of modern (((democracy))) where said NPCs were given a vote.
Giving them access to the internet where they can voice their retardation made the core problem worse, of course.

>>508981298
Simple - they program NPCs with whatever current thing is convenient to the ones in charge.
>women being superior, men are 2nd in the household, sex is casual, etc., are things that you would not have seen in media in the past
This has been going on since at least the 80s. Check how many examples of bumbling husbands there are in sitcoms of that time. They knew they needed to play the long game and not to go balls deep with the propaganda right off the bat.

>>508981641
Sorry bro we failed u...the older generations

>>508980963
They like to let people think they have more control than they actually do.

>>508981668
I don't know. I browse /pol/ so I feel more aware of their tricks than the average normalsperg. Sometimes I wonder if I am just too dumb to be affected.

>>508981742
Nah bro, i don't blame yall. I blame the government

Universal literacy was supposed to educate the common man to control his environment. Once he could read and write he would have a mind fit to rule. So ran the democratic doctrine. But instead of a mind, universal literacy has given him rubber stamps, rubber stamps inked with advertising slogans, with editorials, with published scientific data, with the trivialities of the tabloids and the platitudes of history, but quite innocent of original thought. Each man’s rubber stamps are the duplicates of millions of others, so that when those millions are exposed to the same stimuli, all receive identical imprints. It may seem an exaggeration to say that the American public gets most of its ideas in this wholesale fashion. The mechanism by which ideas are disseminated on a large scale is propaganda, in the broad sense of an organized effort to spread a particular belief or doctrine.

>>508971063 (OP)
Nothing you are saying is new. This subversion was well known even in the days of theater or even from novels. But yes the big change came from TV in the 50's.

>>508981955
We had it bad but you guys....gyat damn its gonna be brutal

>>508982091
Worst part is that most zoomers won't even realize how bad it's gonna be cuz they've become too retarded from using AI

>>508971063 (OP)
lol OP thinks movies are real.

>>508982228
How bad is it? You down there on the streets .....i'm afraid to ask.
Wut are u seeing?

>>508982431
I didn't even read his shit because he already posted this 10x but the idea that subconsciously people related to the zeitgeist, culture, news, movies and music as if that is truly dictating reality.

where do you think all those american riots come from?

the idea of a world wide plato's allegory cave, people who are in the system are more prone to trust the system since the system reward those people while the people outside the system will be easily convinced by the "counter culture".

where do you get your historical sense of ideas if not by the same metrics as movies are displayed?

you can read just some introduction of real post modern ideas here:
https://rafaelsabinomartini.com/the-art-relating-to-itself

>>508982480
A thing a different anon i talked to today complained about

Zoomers do literally everything using AI nowadays, their capacity for basic activities as well as just thinking shit through is practically nonexistent.

This post is right in that they brainwashed everyone through media but zoomers are even worse than OP described. I do not even exagerrate when i say that if they are presented with any sort of narrative those retards eat it up instantly.

One singular propaganda copypasta calling for people to hate on one guy and you immediately have every fucking zoomer hating on said guy. That's all it takes. (this shit got abused to hell and back during elections btw)

Worst part is that they have the drive to actually make a change but the change they make is the one they are told to make by social media.

>>508971063 (OP)
Yah, you dunno shit nigga! MKUltra is a selction programm for "da Next Leada!"
Was part of it when i was younger, got cancelled cause, well guess...
I can you tell one thing, if you are choosen it's hell on earth. It starts with your parents do not care for your emotinal needs, physical will be served, and ends with extended pressure to achieve unachievable goals in all disciplines. Even if you perfom out of ranking, you are still missfit, that way they create minds way behond horror. You don't feel regret, you don't suffer, cause nothing is like the pain you endured while training, you don't feel pitty cause you know what real pain is... It's a program to create autistic narcissists, immune to manipulation and not prone to fall in love or even feel anything but the urgent need to surpass everyone

>>508976230
Lurk moar you phone posting queer

>>508983034
Zoomers are the sacrificial generation.

>>508983236
It does feel that way ngl

>>508983089
Why u gotta be a phag bro? I don't have a computer, i lurk 4chan at night after feeding muh animals and prepping for the night

>>508983047
Can you expand on that post. Asking for a fren.

>>508983034
I'm a zoomer though.

good thread anon. well before tv/movies/etc were a thing, human behavior was influenced by heroes in popular mythology, even; the phenomenon is known as ostension, and one example is how mithridates III imitated a lot of alexander the great's behaviors and attitudes. with the greater immersion of video stimuli, the effect of suspension of disbelief is greater and potential for influencing attitudes and behavior increases as well.
the easiest way to influence one's thoughts is through their feelings, and that's why so much of our modern culture is so feminized. I will never forget during new student orientation at a very liberal college, a professor overheard a new student say, "I feel XYZ..." and the prof expressed how great it is that the new generation is saying that instead of, "I think XYZ...". It struck me as a bit odd at the time but nevertheless took awhile for me to fully appreciate why.

>>508983533
your picrel indeed scares the fuck out of me
and yes! checked!

>>508983605
And? There are still a few of us who see through the bullshit. I'm not saying every single zoomer ever fell for it. Just the majority

It's the few of us who still see through this shit i got faith in to actually be able to keep things from going to absolute shit, even if just by a tiny bit

>>508971063 (OP)
>Mk ultra cope
No you can’t offer degen hippies free widow pain
And study the effects

>>508983625
Anon here knows what is up

only good thread up

>>508983790
If shit hits the fan i got a place for u at my farm anon , it ain't much but its self sustaining and good food

>>508984518
Thank you anon, appreciate it

>>508971063 (OP)
Bumping for effort post from OP

Additionally I would say you need to look at Dr Ewen Cameron. Ewen Cameron was a Scottish psychiatrist who emigrated to the Americas and ended up as head of the US and Canadian pyschological association.
He himself was concerned by what he thought was the German's propensity for war and after WW 2 he was asked by the Allied Secret Services what could be done to stop them doing this again. He replied "Give me full control of their academia and media and I can make them believe anything you like."
I think it's fair to say that the Allies did exactly this, because Ewen Cameron became a significant figure in(if not in fact the actual head of) MKUltra
It was Ewen Cameron who was responsible for the Duplessis Orphans atrocity where orphans were *purchased for cash* from the Roman Catholic Church in Canada and sent to l'Hopital de la Misericorde in Montreal where Dr Cameron performed psychological experiments on them. It was this very case that brought to light the existence of MKUltra as cases of documents were demanded as evidence from the CIA, who later paid to make the case go away, but not before the documents revealing MKUltra had been read.
If you want to see a documentary about this, then watch Zack Snyder's Sucker Punch. Where a girl is bought for cash from a Roman Catholic Priest and then in her fractured mind state is used as a prostitute to entrap politicians or in her "dreams" as a sexy weapon of war. These are the so-called "beta kittens" or "delta warrior" programmed as alts in every leaked MKUltra tale. The head guy doing this was called Blue and MKUltra supposedly had five doctors code-named Dr Black, Dr White, Dr Green, Dr Grey and *Dr Blue*. The movie is set at an asylum in Brattleboro Vermont, which has an actual hospital specialising in associative identities. The protagonists escapes on a bus headed to the town that has the second largest CIA facility outside of Langley.
Zack Snyder knows.

>>508985337
Go on.....
I'm taking notes unironically

>>508985624
Other things from the movie indicating that the "sucker punch" of the movie "Sucker Punch" is that it's based on MKUltra is that MKUltra's so-called "Monarch Programming" wherein through psychological torture and drugs the subjects mind is fractured into programmable alter egos is that the name was deliberately chosen because of the Monarch butterfly, which starts as a caterpillar and is transformed into something beautiful.
In the changing room of the girls in the movie, their dress mirrors have both photographs and *Monarch butterflies* pinned to them.
My source for much of this information was a sadly now defunct website written by a lawyer called Gorsky. In the course of one case supporting a victim of this programming, Mr Gorsky took it upon himself to research the history of mind control from the days of Mesmer to the present day. This was all placed on his sadly now disappeared website, but he detailed everything up to and including the Russian, Chinese, British and US researches into mind control culminating in MKUltra. It was he who put me on to Ewen Cameron and it was he who supplied the quote of Cameron's I mention above.
Zack Snyder, I am sure, was aware of Mr Gorsky and his research because the one good character in Sucker Punch is - not coincidentally - called Gorsky.

>>508985874
I was waiting/hoping you would reply no homo
What else u know brit bro?

>>508986038

The British comedic actress Celia Imrie, who was in many shows in the 1990's, wrote her autobiography and detailed something entirely bizarre from her teenage years.
She was sent to hospital in her teens and she was treated continously with electro shock therapy and drugs.
Her doctor was William Sargant, a British doctor notorious for his experiments in mind control and who was part of MKUltra
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1372700/My-electric-shock-nightmare-hands-CIAs-evil-doctor-Calendar-Girls-star-Celia-Imrie.html

It seems all Five Eyes nations were in on this shit.
It's also taking me at least 5 attempts to reply to you due to repeated "gateway errors". Or maybe I'm paranoid, lol

>>508985874
This actually sounds exactly like what i heard a psychologist talk about a LONG time ago in her experience of dealing with certain patients. I believe you. It's uncanny how well it adds up

>>508986151
Nope ....i'm getting this shit too
Its threads like this that make this site worthwhile tho, my livestock is gonna go hungry in the morning cuz this got me hooked ngl
I'm here bro i got bad gateway errors all of a sudden also

>>508986151
I got the gateway errors too, it's sitewide. All threads i tried talking in have it

>>508986195
It has come to light, since the days MKUltra was said to have "officially ended" that the program was consuming HALF of the CIA's entire black ops budget.
You do not spend that amount of money on what they try to laugh off as "a few experiments with LSD that failed". Clearly it was full spectrum stuff that was going on and Hollywood seems to love it as a subject as they make movies of it over and over and over again. The Bourne movies - classic MKUltra - they tortured David Webb until his mind was broken, gave him the new alter ego of Jason Bourne and turned him into a programmable assassin.
The victims of it all claim similar style stories (with in some cases even worse things done to break them like rape or killing pets in front of them, when it's done with children). As you say it's uncanny how all this stuff adds up and how the powers that be want you to believe that MKUltra actually failed.

>>508985874
anon, they literally sucker punch you not only that the idea is that the "sucker punch" is the lobotomy at the end but the lobotomy there is also a metaphor for cocaine and prostitutes, since you're snorting a powder direct to your frontal lobe.

sucker punches and other terrorism that they do rises flight or fight response. it is not that it programs you rather than de-programs you.

the terrorist acts, assassinations and violence breaks your will, they try to channel you to the only solution they present, it is just slavery, it isn't as magical as they make it seems...

butterfly is what they say to the whores the program to use sex as a tool for the "monarch" that is the useful idiot, it is based on mansory, mansory is based on babylon whores prostitutes and puppets (monarchs).

>>508986417
Damage control is my guess. If the population were to know that it succeeded it would by extension be aware that the results of MKUltra are being used on them, which would be a problem for them wouldn't it?Thus this narrative that it's "just a crazy experiment that had no results" came to be

>>508986321
>>508986369
Not just me then, good to know. Seems the place is just having issues.

>>508986534
If the program was half the CIA budget at one point its safe to assume it never got shut down

>>508986505
Oh don't get me started on Freemasonry in movies. Not only is OP correct that the powers that be use media for social conditioning, they also have spent billions of dollars pushing Freemasonry on the unknowing and unsuspecting masses.
Not really via movies like Sucker Punch but more in "male action hero" movies and shows where the protagonists are stand-ins for the God of Freemasonry, the Great Architect aka Gadreel (the builder/mason of God in literal Hebrew) aka Azazel (the master of the crafts of smithing, magic and war). The War Angel. The guardian of the East of Eden who disobeyed YHWH and joined Samyaza to corrupt mankind.
Nearly ever action movie hero you can think of is Azazel, and they use a specific formula to let you know who he is.

It was a good thread in 2022 and still a good thread in 2025.

>>508986738
Oh absolutely. Too valuable. Too useful.
And getting increasingly more sophisticated.
I am convinced that the reason Obama repealed the Smith Mundt Act (was it Smith Mundt?) was to allow MKUltra techniques perfected abroad to be used with full legality in the United States against it's own people.
I'm convinced because they saw it work so well in Germany (West Germany, not the East), and turned them into the most self-hating and cucked nation in Europe, they decided to do it every western country where no law restricted it. The US did have such a law and that had to go.

>>508986745
Imma let you cook on this one
I'm caping this and fuck jabulon

>>508986745
Care to elaborate? I know some, for example Pulp Fiction, were clear analogs to freemasonry and the fallen angels, but I'm curious as to how it's a thing for a majority of action movies.

>>508986871
Well... damn. Anon you are providing us with some truly valuable information right now

>>508986993
weve heard this a million times its obviously fed spiel lurk more or stfu

>>508971227
Op is right about everything.
We all see it. I am not alone. There is hope.

>>508986860
This is why i never get to leave this place, threads like this!
You gotta lurk through shit and bbc spam and all that smut to get to one good thread and its like
Hey it is what it is but its anons like
>>508986871
That add value to golden threads like this

I’ve always found it a bit sus how the electronic dance scene is basically a recipe of the early documented Multra trials- people takin mind altering substances and being exposed to sensory overload through sound and visuals.
Also modern vidya with all the shit flashing neon colours

determinism is the only true power and it has self-determined to not give the power of determination to human will or human design. doesn't matter what you cry about, the answer is no. humans do not determine the fate of all things, nor do humans determine how their actions or words are received. humans are not determinors.

i am just passing along. this is a shitpost.

>>508987072
It's obviously not, and you're a shill if you barge in and claim that. Kill yourself.

>>508986875
>fuck jabulon

Yep, you've probably heard that Jabulon is a composite god that the Freemasons worship. I don't think that it is, I think it's a composite of the three gods Freemasons acknowledge as existing.

Ja - aka Jehova aka YHWH - this is the "God Above", the God we know
Bul - corruption of Ba'al or Lord - this is the "God Below" who is Azazel, who was given lordship over the earth by YHWH until the end of times according to the - dammit, mind has gone blank, I want to say Apocalypse of Adam, I could be wrong.
On - corruption of Osiris aka Satan - who is supposed to return from the underworld and rule but until then Azazel/Horus (his son) rules in his stead.

Anyway, Freemason Albert Pike wrote "Lucifer is God.... unfortunately Adonai is also God" and revealed there is at least a dualism in Masonry. Lucifer aka Azazel the God Below or down here and Adonai or YHWH the God Above. Note he says "unfortunately". They don't like YHWH.
Freemasons, like ancient Hebes and Pharisees worshipped YHWH AND Azazel. Or rather they placated YHWH with sacrifice, they petitioned Azazel with sacrifice. Azazel gave them stuff. There was even an Azazel bridge leading to the Temple in Jerusalem.

>>508986745
You want to know the saddest part of it?
Is that the congestive heart looks like a butterfly.

That conspiracy movie where mel gibsons says that the heart-attacks are done by the CIA, they un-ironically are sadists as fuck.

yes they believe in the space aliens cubes and other "magical" things...

the larva is the pussy of a virgin, fed lies until it becomes blown out as a butterfly, but it also have the idea of a tale where the witch puts bread crumbles to entrap the kids, the caterpillar keeps eating the empowering lies, they keep giving resources to the woman until her vagina is blown out and becomes a butterfly, they keep giving confidence and resources and gathering kompromat on the woman.

they monarch is the opposite, they keep feeding to him ideas that woman are goddesses as in sacred.

when they pair a high end prostitute with an useful idiot, the woman is a weapon already, her confidence is unshaken due to the amount of resources she obtained by sex.

contrary to the man, he is fed the illusion that the prostitute likes him, the same way she is fucking everybody the monarch is fed programming that a woman will be his life partner and other romantic crap.

most man snaps and die when they get in touch with the material they have recorded of the love of their lives...

remember that other movie, the game, the guy finds a lot of pictures of the woman they are grooming fucking and doing drugs on a motel. The Game of Michael douglas explain mansory and how they program you with actors and extras...

>>508980595
Nope. Women's depression and suicide are on the rise.
Less than mens, until 40. Then it accelerates Hard. Statistically unmarried 40-somethings are more miserable than married women in active War Zones.

>>508987158
every single weekly narrative that runs on this site is fedshit because repeatedly showing people the same things is only useful in training or a psyop
people replying to obvious masons in threads about newsmediashit calling them masons -> not shills
people posting the same threads about masons every week -> shills

I think people over estimate themselves, quite a lot too. The reason why places like india, africa, south america are shitholes is not because of dictators, it't the opposite, it's because they have too much freedom. A society consisting of equal separated individuals can not govern itself. At best everyone will break the rules a tiny bit and that's all it takes to become bangladesh. You need Stalin to force the retard peasants to modernize and become productive. You need investment culture to create consolidated mega corporations to keep pushing forward. Rome is known for it's senate but it became an empire with strong leaders. Ancient greece created democracy but no greek had the hubris to oppose the rule of law.

You need to control the masses for their own good. Leave you to your own devices and you will self destruct.

>>508986534
been getting gateway errors too and now 4chanx extension is telling me the site thinks my reply is spam and to reformat it because I have tried to send it a few times. I'm removing the link to "tiktok tourettes" because maybe that link was triggering the "spam" response. hopefully this attempt works.

not just beliefs and attitudes can be shaped through culture, but also foundational skills and behaviors, like the ability to speak and communicate clearly. there's the recent-ish phenomenon of tiktok videos allegedly spreading tourette's which seems to me to be related to this overall topic, albeit perhaps unintentional.
(search "tiktok tourettes" and you can find writeups about the phenomenon.)
if this kind of low-level (and by that I mean fundamental abilities of most developmentally normal humans, such as producing speech) behaviors can be altered, even inadvertently, by watching some tiktok idiots, who knows what other kinds of physiological and behavioral responses can be inculcated by individuals or groups with a clear purpose?
>>508985337
The infliction of trauma onto a person is one method that's used for fracturing someone's mind - which can then be rebuilt for someone else's purposes - but I don't know as much about that. on the societal level, traumas like september 11th allowed our dear leaders to ram through legislation that would've been hotly opposed otherwise (patriot act, NDAA, etc). once again it's aiming at changing peoples' thoughts by manipulating and attacking their emotions.

>>508987334
Yo .. just leave the thread then ,i'm interested and i'm no fed ,i'm a farmer
Let the anons cook

>>508987455
You type like a faggot

Neonazism, MAGA, and everything on /pol/ is MKULTRA lol
There's a perfect circle from the Nazis to the CIA to fascist tides around the world. As Roy Cohn's bottom boy, Trump comes right to the edge of that circle and is part of the control mechanism. Hotels and beauty pageants, friends with all the pedophiles. Trump is an agent of empire who worked the sex and blackmail trade, abusing his position to rape women and children along the way.

>>508971063 (OP)
who's the gook chick?

>>508987258
the constant harassment leads to heart failure that looks to a butterfly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGx7wf1VIpU

on the russian manual on brainwashing they explain on how they even try to make kidney failure due to heart overload due to drugs and stress...

My heart exploded with a mixture of iron overload, infection, stress of harassment, drug withdrawal and nano bots they poisoned me with.

you know what they did after I shat 1 liter of blood?

They kept harassing to see if they could kill by a stroke.

You would think that they would kill someone but they like the "toying" because masonic semites are brown...

they are brown anon...
they don't do this to brown people the do the inverse, they give planty of prostitutes and instead of feeding drugs they give money and a prosperous life.

I have somewhere in my archieves roughly 50 screenshots of a brazilian poster who talks about mk ultras connection to satanic cults and high profile murders from sharron tate to jfk.

should i post here or in new thread?

>>508986871
absolutely. the various techniques and technologies which have been tested abroad under the justification of blank-check for combatting "terrorism" are now being used on home populations like USA, UK, NZ, AUS, Canada, and Europe generally.

>>508987499
I wouldn't be surprised if literally everything politics was MKUltra at this point. There's so much stuff that feels pointless going on within politics that i have to wonder if it isn't all just a stageplay meant to keep us mad and not see what happens behind the stage.

>>508987635
Anon idc where you post it but i fucking need that shit asap

>>508987442
>The infliction of trauma onto a person is one method that's used for fracturing someone's mind
checks out. most north americans are circumsized after all

>>508987635
New thread

Do ppl understand why philosopher kings lead solitude lives? Same similar situations brew same similar young philosophers…

What needs to change?

>>508986993
>Care to elaborate?
Sure, strap in for the ride.
In 1893 I think it was, the Freemason Rudyard Kipling wrote "The Man Who Would Be King" about two British soldiers - Danny and Peachy - who leave the British army in India to smuggle weapons to a tribe in Kafiristan and rule it as kings.
This story is basically a rewrite of the Book of Enoch, where two fallen angels - Azazel and Samyaza - teach weapons and war to primitive man, corrupt him, take women as wives, Azazel rules as God King (the man who would be king) and ultimately breed Nephilim. Then God gets pissed, throws Azazel down a chasm and Samyaza into a lake of fire.
Freemasons claim to have had a copy longer than anyone else
Freemasons have a lodge play where their hero - Hiram Abiff - is surveying Temple Mount, finds a cave, is lowered in by rope and finds the Book of Enoch between two pillars.

You have seen this play if you've ever seen Raiders of the Lost Ark, except it's not the book it's Ark which Indy (Hiram) finds in the Well of Souls.

Anyway, Masons loved this shit so much they got their Jewish masters to give them the money to film Azazel (and Samyaza) movies in Hollywood. They use a formula, called Inverted Hermeneutic (upside down interpretation) where they take the Bible/Enoch, flip it upside down and make the fallen angels heroes and Jesus and/or God the villain. But to let you know who is who, they use "leitmotifs" to ID the characters.
For example
John Wick is Azazel
- skilled warrior because he's the war angel
- contract over a woman (his wife) as in Enoch the angels swear a pledge over women
- introduced by the sea as he's the Beast from the Sea of Revelation, the antichrist
- kills a father (God), a son (Jesus) and 84 goons (the 12 apostles and 72 lesser disciples)
- the 12 Apostles he kills in his house in the "Dinner for 12" segment, because it's their Last Supper haha
- he descends into Hell (as the elevator announces "you are now descending into Hell" in part 2)
cont...

>>508986993
cont...
- John Wick fights up the 222 steps of Sacre Couer, he falls down the 222 steps of Sacre Couer, he fights back up the 222 steps of Sacre Couer for 666, his number as the Beast of Revelation
- he is accompanied in all this by Cain, the famous Biblical murderer
- his name is Wick, which is the lightbearing part of the candle, the what do you call it? yes, the Lucifer of the candle
John Wick is literally John Lucifer aka Azazel the war angel aka the Beast from the Sea
He crosses the river Styx and pays Charon the ferryman (the black desk clerk at the Continental) every time he wants to take part in his supernatural shadowy "underworld"
In the Rome outing he's even asked "Are you here to kill the Pope?" to which he replies "Not yet"

this is how the formula works

>>508987681
Well I mean establishment Democrats are controlled opposition and so is most "liberalism" (ie Bill Clinton < Epstein < Trump, a perfect example of the sex and blackmail control mechanism working) but far left politics are genuine and the single threat to empire, thus the need to control that opposition and manufacture false avenues that defuse genuine movements as happened with the CIA manipulating the emergence and course of hippy counterculture so as to obscure more focused dissident movements like the anti-war protests.

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Fuck it its going here. May as well blow the thread skyhigh over all of this glownigger shill spam faggotry. I think some are missing and out of order but the info is there regardless.

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>>508987442
>The infliction of trauma onto a person is one method that's used for fracturing someone's mind - which can then be rebuilt for someone else's purposes - but I don't know as much about that. on the societal level, traumas like september 11th allowed our dear leaders to ram through legislation that would've been hotly opposed otherwise (patriot act, NDAA, etc). once again it's aiming at changing peoples' thoughts by manipulating and attacking their emotions.
Yes, we are traumatized and controlled by the news, through fear - of terrorist attack, of covid, of WW3. Anything to keep us in a state of stress and suggestible to manipulation
And they straight up lie. The BBC and CNN were caught staging a fake Muslim peace protest in London by an independent journalist.

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>>508988208
I presume that true far left politics do not include what people would refer to as "woke" correct?

I always had my suspicions with that area of the left since it seems like a massive manipulation meant to keep people distracted

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>>508988155
>In the Rome outing he's even asked "Are you here to kill the Pope?" to which he replies "Not yet"
>this is how the formula works
Wait what? Can you unpack this?

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>>508988459
No it absolutely means woke lol
Right wingers are all evil scum and the things they hate are True and Just
There is no such thing as too far left

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>>508988541
Disagree then. Seen enough shit to convince me that wokeness is under their control too. The most rational people i've met were ironically the ones who had leftist political views but stood outside of the woke mob

Here are some of the operational techniques

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>"socially successful" black people in movies who flip their shit in response to anything that is even remotely perceived as racist/offensive
Example?

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>>508988730
Wokeness is controlled in the sense that the BLM movement was defused by inserting grifters to channel organization toward consumerism and passive protest, because it was originally a growing threat to the false domestic peace imposed by the fascist deep state.
All of the sentiments of "wokeness" are correct though, including fanatical hatred for fascists and acceleration toward violent revolution.

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>>508988521
>Wait what? Can you unpack this?
Actually I'm not sure if that wasn't a deleted scene from the movie, or if it was just shot for the trailer or something. But when he arrives at the Continental in Rome a guest notices him and asks if he's there to kill the Pope.
Clearly at some point John Wick aka Lucifer is supposed to kill the Pope.

But there's a reason everyone in this Underworld fears John - because he's the War Angel Azazel, the ultimate fighter who taught mankind the arts of war and weapons.

The Biblical references in John Wick are easily missed, but not if you know this is one of those movies. When he meets the Bowery King (the second coming of Jesus who hangs out with beggars and the poor) the Bowery King lives in a church. He gives John seven bullets (the seven horns that must sound). He has a painting of Doubting Thomas touching the wounds of Jesus when he meets John the last time. Chad Stahelski just relies on people forgetting Sunday School.

>>508978596
I find it interesting that he is considered English in America. No one would ever think that here.

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>>508989037
We may be speaking of very different things then, when i say wokeness i refer more to the late-BLM protests (to use your example) and all the gender wars going on. Those are what i see as fake. The acceleration towards violent revolution is exactly the type of stuff i'd classify as belonging to the left but not to the "woke" side of it. Ironically something i promote myself.

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>>508989075
Just how interconected is hollywood with the cia freemasonry and kabbalah jew bullshit anyway? God fucking damn i'm starting to think its just one big entity

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>>508989196
Nope, "wokeness" is completely correct as far as the necessity of liberation from systemic racism and sexism including enforced gender identities and lack of access to healthcare like abortion and gender reassignment measures. Any "leftism" that fails to meet this mark is just a hypocritical half-measure that will be utterly dissected from both the left and the right.

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>>508981998
I must read that book.

>>508971191
That explains the tranny in Squid Game 2...

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>>508989452
Thx again for the posts i'm reading this shit
Have a qt

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>>508983625
>human behavior was influenced by heroes in popular mythology
I believe that is what the nephalim in the bible was about, they were spiritual men like gods who came down and mated with women and created half god half men like herculese and thus started the mythologies and dramas about heaven and hell.

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>>508989411
That's stupid as hell. You cannot tell me that the only solution to MKUltra is to adopt one very specific ideology.

In fact i'd argue that directly runs in-line WITH what they want. The biggest danger to an organization that precisely wants to control people's minds is variety and freedom of thought. This is why i say the woke has fallen too. The woke will attack everyone and everything who disagrees with them. Not that ring-wingers aren't any better don't get me wrong but you simply cannot tell me that a side that's as intolerant as the far-left to other opinions is THE correct one

The Grateful Dead were an MK ultra psyop. Prove me wrong.

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right-wingers* not ring-wingers

>>508989411
Fool, such nonsense! Originally, it was supposed to be a disease of capitalism, with a lower priority than workers taking control of the means of production.
But you troons are obsessed with that postmodern gay nonsense that no one likes, and you're hated by the very workers you claim to represent, while receiving enthusiastic support from the crappy liberal intellectuals and bourgeois elite of the urban area.
That propaganda isn't working, it actually benefits the capitalists. Discard it, you fools.

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>>508989866
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>>508975639
>Oh, look, and actual human-made thread. Shocking
i wouldn't go that far
OP is a mentally ill fucktard that spams kpop yellow fever trash 24/7

>>508989309
The original Warner Bros were Polish Jewish emigrés to Canada and then to America.
Even as Jews they all joined Mt Olive Lodge Hollywood, a Lodge full of actors and directors, one of whom was Harry Mancke, a director of westerns. So it cannot have been uncommon for movie people to join the Masons, especially since they have a lot of lodge plays and stuff.
Warner Bros is one studio which, I have noticed, is responsible for a lot of Masonic movies. Even moreso their subsidiary Legendary Pictures, which they set up in the 90s, which seems to focus on Masonic movies.
So the studios can clue you in, and the writers too can clue you in, because to be able to write Masonic movies to an Inverted Hermeneutic formula, somebody has to teach you it.
Shane Black is one such writer. Nearly all his early works are "buddy cop" type movies with two male protagonists (Azazel and Samyaza) and always in opposition to a God/Jesus pairing.
Take Lethal Weapon.
Martin Riggs is introduced by the sea as he is the Beast from the Sea
He is a superbly skilled fighter, in his own words one of the 3 or 4 best snipers in the world
He hates God back, as he tells Murtaugh
He is opposed by Mr Joshua (aka Yeheshua aka Jesus)
Mr Joshua has his faith tested by The Colonel (God) who burns him with a lighter. As he is burned a man watching (the apostle Peter) says Jesus Christ three times. An inversion of the gospel story where Peter denies Christ three times.
and so on
Shane Black, in interview, has said "I like writing about fallen heroes". He means fallen angels, because it's all he does write about. He did it again in the last Boy Scout where another Azazel /Samyaza pairing take on another Joshua and his God boss master.
And Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
And so on...

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Delete this post right fucking now or you'll be dead soon you fucking worm

>>508989946
Tre sa dau la animale de dimineata....bag pula-n ele ca nu ma mai trezesc pana la 10-11

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Cu un thread ca asta merita, rar mai dai peste asa ceva

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>>508989803
The ideology of liberation and solidarity is supreme, intolerant only of the ideas of exploiters and abusers such as racial hierarchy, gender roles, and nationalist selfishness.

Variety and freedom of thought are not particularly threatening to the system, thus why the internet was allowed to proliferate beyond a small network developed by the military. In fact, it's a distraction from the politics of liberation.

>>508989866
Every argument in support of class solidarity applies to other historic systems of oppression such as race and gender. Gay people are workers too. Trans people are workers too. Until the workers are free to love who they please and live their identities fully, no one is free. It's all one struggle.

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tangentially related to the thread's topic, still relevant because this story shows how amoral governments can be in pursuit of a goal:
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-allowed-pedophiles-to-foster-children/a-53839291
in order to create the new model citizen, two possibilities could be taking advantage of people who've already been emotionally abused, or inflicting a new one when required; these are the elements of a sustained cycle of abuse. this goes not only for the individual but even entire countries. people who are in a state of psychological distress for whatever reason(s) are much more easy to manipulate, and this has been going on writ large at great intensity for decades.

>>508971063 (OP)
>tl;dr globohomo jews operate the largest and most successful psyop operation in history


We already know this and talk about it every day.

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>>508990031
You gotta start making threads bro i shit you not my mind is blown
I think everyone here appreciates an anon with such a large repertoire of information
Even the shills left

>>508990649
then why are you seemingly annoyed by someone who's providing more details about how the process?

Even though I know nobody will believe me, I work for the government and everything you said is very close to the truth. There are secret programs with motives even beyond what you currently understand. Even those with the highest level of security clearance are not allowed to know about them. The only reason I know is because I stayed in after hours one night in the office without anyone knowing and overheard some high level government officials discussing some of these operations. You would be amazed at how deceived you all actually are about everything in your life. The truth is that government agencies around the world have conspired to understand the average human being on such a profound level that they can control you with as much certainty as controlling a computer. What are you planning to do about it? Any ideas?

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>>508990293
I'm sorry anon but i tried having faith in you. I really did. You were not worth my time. You are just as brainwashed as the other woke people.

All of the "problems" you listed are exactly why your ideology fails. While those things you listed may have actual problems (some more than others AHEM racial hierarchy) you woketards eliminate EVERYTHING, throwing out the baby with the water. You guys are the type of people to call anyone who disagrees with you nazis and then villainize them.

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>>508990649
Its been shit threads for the past couple of days anon ,when the thread is packed with info like this i'm game

>>508990707
Thank you anon. I try and get this knowledge out there because I figure if they're spending billions of dollars on it (and they are) then it must be important.
And it all connects to the political stuff and to the MKUltra stuff. It's like we're under assault from all angles in our lives.

>>508990293
Because of that stupid liberal queer class struggle, you are making it almost impossible to achieve the most important class struggle. People who are willing to fight for the interests of their class will never fight for the interests of very minority troons.
This is a prime example of the Frankfurt School's subversion. Divide and conquer and the inversion of the purpose and means of propaganda—you're obsessed with the issue of culture as an ideological superstructure.
Do you understand the meaning of communist internationalism? Above all, the interests of the working class must come first!
Your leftism is just a way to defend your troon bourgeois liberalism, and you've probably never even met a real worker. All the useless drugs and liberal media that support your delusions are products of distorted capitalism.

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>>508989831
as a teen I would see their advertising everywhere, I still don't know any of their songs or what they are about.

>>508990828
What am I eliminating? Class war is still fundamental and there's no eliminating racialized and gendered systems of oppression because those exist to create permission structures for exploitation including labor exploitation. The abuse of immigrants as a foundation of the American economy is a great example of the intersection of these "woke" concepts with silly narrowly focused economic leftism. Solidarity with immigrant workers means smashing borders and controls and making everyone legal. It's all the same struggle.

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>>508990772
>What are you planning to do about it? Any ideas?
I don't really have a "plan" per se, best i can do is try to wake people up as much as i personally can. If i can wake as much as ONE person up to reality i'll be satisfied. the smallest difference counts.

I dream of the days when retards will stop the in-fighting and actually decide to fight the government itself, but that's just a dumb fantasy of mine.

bump

>>508991102
>People who are willing to fight for the interests of their class will never fight for the interests of very minority troons.
I'm never going to trust someone who uses slurs to actually be on the right side of any struggle. You're a reactionary lol
Remember, the working class includes people of every ethnicity, nation, orientation, and gender. Liberation from discrimination is the interest of the working class.

>>508990760
I’m not annoyed, it’s good info but it’s more for newfag summerfags. They need to get up to speed too.

>>508991101
>It's like we're under assault from all angles in our lives.
We are
Have a fucking (you) ,unironically you conected some dots masterfully

>>508991188
>abuse of immigrants
art of the deal, they accepted the deal

for me it's dubu

the show "Sex in the City" had a huge impact on women, making them want to be career-cunt bossladies, perpetually single and fucking around, in a major city like NYC.

>>508991188
*no eliminating racialized and gendered systems of oppression without eliminating capitalism

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etc. this id PLjQjPnO is some kind of concern troll faggot who should be ignored and not allowed to derail the thread any further

>>508971063 (OP)
That’s one handsome oriental woman

>>508991417
Defend the echo chamber at all costs!

>>508991381
this show convinced millions of women that men just wanna use them as fucktoys, so they might as well do the same. as a result we now have hook-up culture that's been going on for over a decade. sure some women always partied and were sluts, but now it is the dominant cultural trend.

>>508971929
I agree we need more quality thread’s like this.

>>508989585
My god!

>>508975062
incredible quote and a bump from me also.

>>508991258
People need waking up from the Matrix, and need to unplug from the Matrix.
The only way to avoid media programming is to unplug from it. Don't go to their offered sources of news like the MSM, analyse their movies and see what messages they are promoting and so forth.
Once enough are unplugged from them, then something may happen.
You can see this in western governments at the moment, they're all fucking panicking at people finally having had enough of their shit. Here in the UK, whether you like them or not or trust them or not, Reform are upending the paradigm of Labour/Conservative that has persisted for a century. Both those parties are losing big time in every council election at the moment. Were a general election called tomorrow, Reform would win and form a majority government. People are getting pissed off.

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Two examples:

Gender roles: while them being forced onto people is fundamentally a bad thing since it restricts their capacity for self-expression, a very common thing you see is that people will attack those who adhere to them out of genuine liking of them. This is of course complete bullshit and runs against the very goal of eliminating gender roles, freedom of realization. If someone's way of being coincidentally happens to be alligned with what is considered to be their gender role then there's literally nothing wrong with that and trying to get them to stop does nothing but turn you into the exact thing you hate, an enforcer.

Nationalist selfishness: Removal of nationalism as a whole is quite possibly the most idiotic thing we could do and the anti-nationalist selfishness group goes in that direction, a consequence of an extremist ideology naturally. If we erase nationalism as a whole we will go straight towards one global super-state which is the literal perfect setup for global totalitarianism. The key in this scenario is balance. Learn to work with other countries while simultaneously not forgetting that your country is a country in itself too

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>>508991326
And don't forget that the working class is full of what you call "bigots."
You've been harassing and hindering them with trivial liberal cultural issues. Is that what you call vanguardism?
You're just pawns convenient for capitalists. Why do you think the U.S. media, bought out by the wealthy, has been spreading so much propaganda about identity politics and troonism, you fool?
All muttoids are larpers controlled by J jewish bankers, and you are no exception.

>>508991376
>>508991548
more dubu

>>508976617
It is a pretty basic analysis that most people have thought of or come across, yet it's fundamental to most modern problems and has not been solved.

>>508988267
56

>>508991517
Jewish creator and jewish stars. Friends was also a big part in the destruction of social cohesion in the western world.

>>508991417
Ykw, solid point anon, i'll stop letting them bait me. I said my piece, POjQjPnO reminds me of all the leftist NPC's

>>508988267
57

>>508987124
you do not sound genuine. You sound like a noob from plebbit.
Lurk without engaging for at least 2 years
to be an anon you must be anon.

>>508988267
58

the MKultra has gone into giga-overdrive now with netflix, social media, and porn. it's over for humanity, just a question of when, not if.

also look into mimetics. monkey see monkey do. after watching video content, ppl are inclined to want to mimic that behavior. it happens to me when i watch vegas gambling content (makes me wanna go to vegas). there are youtube influencers who do it full time and can afford to buy their own house. that was rare 10-20 years ago.

>>508988267
59

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Last one. Hope this helps my frens.

>>508992057
Anon you are incredible

>>508987818
>In 1893 I think it was, the Freemason Rudyard Kipling wrote "The Man Who Would Be King"
>This story is basically a rewrite of the Book of Enoch

utter bollocks, you haven't read Enoch and you know fuck all about it, cause if you did you would not have said such a stupid thing

>>508991699
>a very common thing you see is that people will attack those who adhere to them out of genuine liking of them
This isn't common at all lol
Right wingers cherry pick this and spread it as part of their self-victimization fetish

>If we erase nationalism as a whole we will go straight towards one global super-state which is the literal perfect setup for global totalitarianism
Dictatorship of the proletariat. Nationalism exists only to create divisions that can be exploited, citizen worker and foreign worker. There is only the human worker of this global society.

>>508991712
Stay mad, Nazi

>>508991872
I'M A FUCKING FARMER GIVE ME SOME FUCKING SLACK! I LIVE WITH THE COWS IN THE MOUNTAINS!

>>508975062
>>508991342
I will add to all this fascinating discussion a memory of my friend's mother, who let me live with them as I attended college in the US.
My friend's mother, sadly now deceased, used to be a journalist on a Washington newspaper, I can't remember if it's the Star or the Post. Anyway, a few years after JFK was assassinated she and her partner were investigating it and got a lead from somebody in Miami. They approached their editor for plane tickets. The editor approved and they booked to fly out. The day before she took a call at her desk from an anonymous man who said "If you go on that flight to Miami tomorrow, you will not return".
She told her editor who cancelled the trip out of fear. Though this didn't dissuade her from further investigation apparently, as she told me, and she said "if anything happens to me, everything I know is filed with a lawyer and will be published".
Sadly, I didn't get to know what it was, but another anon here said she was probably going to meet Jose Maria Battle from Cuba.
She had said she had connections with the mafia in NJ when I was at college and offered to get me a summer job. I now realise it may have been not the Italian mafia but the Cuban mafia in NJ, where Jose Battle moved his base of operations to.
On top of this, whilst at college, I came home one day and said we'd been given a recommended reading list. She asked to see it. She looked at it and said "that's all shit, there's only one book you need to read and that's Alduous Huxley's Brave New World".
A well clued up lady who I wish was still with us. But I think she would have loved this thread right here, which has touched on JFK (and a Cuban connection) and touched on Huxley.

>>508992158
>This isn't common at all lol
Direct experience, that's all i'll say. I'll be ignoring you from now on since you showed your true colors by calling the other anon a nazi. Nice moral vanity by the way dumbass, saying that people who use slurs are evil by default and then using your community's equivalent of a slur yourself.

>>508992124
Didn't know the 77th operated throughout the night. Go pick your nose somewhere else glownigger

>>508971063 (OP)
I got MK Ultra'd into trooning out. When I take my pills I hear autotuned Kpop gibberish inside my head.

>>508992361
i'm not a glow nigger you fucktard.
rather then being a prick why don't you look up who wrote the book of Enoch and when!

>>508992158
You talked a lot, but you couldn't refute the points I pointed out.
Talking to a "liberal" like you is like talking to a pastor of a crappy religion. Most Americans who are into politics are like you.

>>508992349
You'll be ignoring me because you're just another reactionary dog lol

>>508992183
>GIVE ME SOME FUCKING SLACK
no
take the advice

>>508992201
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>>508992057
I'm saving rn
Have some yellow fever

We all know this already though.

Consider the number of times the "heroic solution" in a (((Hollywood))) movie is suicide. It is the Kalergi plan writ large.

I can read your mind.

>>508992201
Fascinating. The "Brave New World" recommendation was on point. Everyone's making a big deal out of 1984 but it's Brave New World that actually predicted the dystopia. We're heading straight for it

>>508992677
Fine

>>508976007
I knew you had just rehashed this, not sure how I feel about that.. But newfags need redpilling

This is a joke right? OP's text and posted images are too much contradicting. Any sane person, like me, can't tolerate this as GOOD information.

>>508971063 (OP)
Finally a good fucking post this week. Thanks OP. I haven't looked at comments because I'm still reading your text wall but I'm guessing shills showed up for this one too

>>508975324
Amazing how much Jew, jeet, fedfaggot slop we're adjusted to when anons all have the same reaction to real posts

>>508992545
You don't have points, you just spam a bunch of Nazi vitriol because you're a mentally ill piece of shit lol
Like, you're trying to lecture me about the working class but you're so obviously a fascist that it's laughable you'd ever know what the working class thinks

>>508992891
It's on the right track tho, anon may be contradictory in certain details but the overall core idea is something that most anons on this thread reasonate with. Media is a method of control through appeal to people's suggestibility. Even if (idk, for example) all the black people shit was dead wrong it doesn't take away from the base idea

>>508976617
The older you get, the more you're going to hear fundamental things repeated anon. Be careful that you aren't assuming others have heard even the most basic facts.

>>508978596
They really are the synagogue of satan. There is no God in a kiked up world.

>>508976007
I don't buy this one

>>508993043
>Nazi vitriol
Kek
>>508993047
Why did you engage this fag again?

>>508993043
You're really stupid, you don't understand anything.
So you just call the other person a Nazi and call it a day? You're such a stupid mutt. Stop pretending to debate and go back to earning updoots on Reddit.

>>508992739
Yep, she was a very smart lady who knew a lot of shit. At the time I thought she was a little kooky but over time I've come to realise she was very, very switched on to how the world really works.
Her hubbie was also quite a big cheese in some Masonic affiliated association. Not the Masons but Mason-adjacent. He knew more than he was letting on too. He came to visit me in England and I was supposedly showing him around but he just advised me to "look up" i.e. at the architecture above what was now a fast food joint on the ground floor and right there on the front of the building on the first floor, which I had never noticed in all my years, was a plain-as-day Masonic square and compass. And then he said "you can learn a lot by looking up sometimes".

>>508993277
I may have had a lapse in judgement

>>508971063 (OP)
Well said OP

>>508992791
Don't listen to that cultist freak. This is an anonymous board and you can post here whenever and however you like. Tell us what it's like to farm in the mountains with cows, romanon?

>>508993310
Well yeah, reactionary scum like you are totally disingenuous cunts with whom I would never debate because you're both incredibly stupid and full of bullshit. When you spout racist and sexist shit nonstop as insults while trying to assert your strawman of "real leftism" despite being a right wing lunatic there's really nothing else to do but call you a Nazi and laugh. You're a deranged piece of shit with zero value to society.

>>508993327
I gotta try the "looking up" thing too, that's something that never crossed my mind. Truly interesting

>>508993163
Could you tell us some advanced facts in that case? Or something to look into?

>>508981069
It's nothing new. Look up "Hylics"

>>508993277
>>508993609
Thread is nearing bump-limit.
Thanks for the fascinating ride my Romanian frens.
Hope the cows forgive you, farmer anon

>>508993163
Very wise advice anon, thank you.

>>508993694
This reads like you are quite juvenile actually.

>>508993043
>of Nazi vitriol because you're a mentally ill piece of shit lol

Stfu nigger. And gtfo. Post tits before you go.

>>508971227
Which is why the television needs to he classified as a weapon of war

>>508993806
Cheers to you too my friend

nice job OP
thanks

>>508993872
Kys nazi bitch lol

>>508993562
Well, i got out of the rat race and came here disengaged from the system
I still need the electricity jew but everything is self sustainable
Just got my water pump , i'm about to get a big water filter for the whole village
Clean water good food , i got some ok 4g signal
My friend told me i can use my hotspot to play ps5 online ,so im about to sell me a cow get me one
Its ....way better than society
After reading threads like this ,it kinda makes me feel better , knowing i took the right decision leaving society as a whole
Fuck it let it rot and burn

NEW THREAD!!

>>508994086
>>508994086
>>508994086
>>508994086

NEW THREAD!!

>>508993806
Its fine it was worth it

>>508992739
to a certain extent, 84 is a misdirection
a means to an end if the elites cant achieve their goals with persuasion
BNW is the end result the elites are going for
and they mean to have it whether peacefully or with blunt force

>>508994077
Absolutely the right decision. I and I'm sure many others are envious

>>508994077
What are the people like in your village? Are you happy now? Have any family?

>>508993846
Yeah I still am (past 20) Was just interested in if I could dive into an obscure rabbit hole before I go to bed.

>>508994307
Small village , happier than out there for sure, family comes when i'm sure i can provide a good life for them for an extended time obviously
I'm not far
It was hard in the beginning but it got better with time

>>508994077
Unfathomably based. I lurked through this whole thread, but this was the post that made me engage. This is literally what I'm planning to do. A few more years, but I'll get there. Hope it will be before the shitstorm that will be ww3.
Thank to all the anons who contributed, I've had one hell of a saturday night reading through all this stuff.

>>508983625
I say "I feel XYZ..." when I'm talking about my intuition as that is my ruling faculty, my conscious mind is much slower on the uptake. Are people referring to their emotional responses to a stimulus when they say that? I don't know how else to verbally cue that my judgements are coming from my intuition and not any logical step by step reasoning. Perhaps "I intuit XYZ..." ?

>>508994631
Good luck anon, hope you make it in time

>>508994681
Thx u2

>>508994819
sounds interesting, do you also have birds?

Archive this thread someone plz
And shout out to my romanian frenz keep up the good worx

>>508992724
No you can't. But the 5G towers can! KEK

>>508992690
Cute, she a fren of yours?

>>508992124
It literally is a rewrite of it though you fucking imbecile and if you had two brain cells it would be obvious, you are way out of your depth.

>>508995202
If i end up having a qt like this imma die happy

Movies are fake and gay, therefore trans.
Movies transform normies into npcs

>>508994993
Yeah chickens , pigs , cows(i sell milk) , few goats
Best combo is cow/chickens but variety is always better if you got the time
Kots....3 kots and 2 dogs one with autism
I can make
>picrel
Everyday for 2 months str8 if i lost all the livestock i got rn

>>508971063 (OP)
yeah but, if it's not a primary method, why do they go to all that trouble of putting illuminati symbolism in so many music videos?

>>508995535
damn that's a lot of food, I wish to get something like that and a huge library of books, do you need people to help you on your farm?

>>508992486

>>508995568
It's their to tell Masons to pay attention. In movies it's "pay attention to the plot" which is usually about Azazel and in songs it's "pay attention to the lyrics" and they're usually about Azazel.
see Stronger by Kanye West. It's sung from the view point of Azazel, complaining that there's no real Christians any more, that God put Eve in front of him, how he's special and human bitches are ten a penny, that he's coming with a new gospel and you better take 6(66)

>>508994000
>Kys
You are actually telling people to kys? You are sick. That is taking things too far. Tf is wrong with you? Ffs.

>>508995821
Don't really need help but if the syatem crashes i'll hook u up
I lurk 4chan quite a bit, this is where i get my news really
And right now there's a lot of.....like ....ita so remote i dunno if the electricity grid will support an A/C ...i still got a lot of infrastructure work to do but you know ...slow is smooth and smooth is fast

>>508987818
Were you the OP of a thread about this a few years ago (which I've never forgotten and opened my eyes to a lot of symbolism in media.) You also mentioned the animated film, the Road to El Dorado, right?

>>508991158
Same. I don't think I have heard a song by them. But they were touted as being big mega super star popular. Curious.

>>508995988
I'm telling ya, this moral vanity ain't shit. Woketard anon ain't any better than the rest of us despite his claims