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7/23/2025, 9:01:27 PM
>>511156056
The /pol/ is a frankist board.
https://ordoabchao.ca/volume-two/aryan-myth
>In The Aryan Myth: The History of Racist and Nationalistic, Leon Poliakov explained that the chief promoter of the myth of an Aryan race at the beginning of the nineteenth century was Friedrich Schlegel (1754 – 1819), who was married to Dorothea Mendelssohn, daughter of Moses Mendelssohn, leader of the Haskalah, or Jewish Enlightenment, and a purported successor of the false-messiah Sabbatai Zevi. Contrary to popular assumption, the outlandish racial theories of the Nazis were not a new development, but rather, the entire aspirations of their regime derived from a tradition of German nationalism that dated back to Romantic era of the early nineteenth century, which was influenced by the occult legends of Rosicrucianism and Freemasonry. Merged with the myth of Atlantis, the notion of “Oriental Kabbalah,” derived from Écossais Freemasonry, had allowed the formulation of the theory that occult doctrines were developed in ancient Asia, primarily Tibet, long before they were appropriated by the Jews. The theory was rooted in attempts to tie the ancestors of the Europeans to the Khazars, and ultimately the Lost Tribes and Gog and Magog, which contributed to the invention of the myth of the Aryan race. According to Voltaire, for example, the Jews “stole” what was of worth in their religion from the Aryans, people whom they called Gog and Magog
>The European idea of nationalism is founded on the notion of a single national identity, based on a combination of shared culture, ethnicity, geography, language, politics, religion, traditions and history. Scholars frequently place the beginning of nationalism with the American Declaration of Independence or with the French Revolution, for their impact on European intellectuals
The /pol/ is a frankist board.
https://ordoabchao.ca/volume-two/aryan-myth
>In The Aryan Myth: The History of Racist and Nationalistic, Leon Poliakov explained that the chief promoter of the myth of an Aryan race at the beginning of the nineteenth century was Friedrich Schlegel (1754 – 1819), who was married to Dorothea Mendelssohn, daughter of Moses Mendelssohn, leader of the Haskalah, or Jewish Enlightenment, and a purported successor of the false-messiah Sabbatai Zevi. Contrary to popular assumption, the outlandish racial theories of the Nazis were not a new development, but rather, the entire aspirations of their regime derived from a tradition of German nationalism that dated back to Romantic era of the early nineteenth century, which was influenced by the occult legends of Rosicrucianism and Freemasonry. Merged with the myth of Atlantis, the notion of “Oriental Kabbalah,” derived from Écossais Freemasonry, had allowed the formulation of the theory that occult doctrines were developed in ancient Asia, primarily Tibet, long before they were appropriated by the Jews. The theory was rooted in attempts to tie the ancestors of the Europeans to the Khazars, and ultimately the Lost Tribes and Gog and Magog, which contributed to the invention of the myth of the Aryan race. According to Voltaire, for example, the Jews “stole” what was of worth in their religion from the Aryans, people whom they called Gog and Magog
>The European idea of nationalism is founded on the notion of a single national identity, based on a combination of shared culture, ethnicity, geography, language, politics, religion, traditions and history. Scholars frequently place the beginning of nationalism with the American Declaration of Independence or with the French Revolution, for their impact on European intellectuals
7/20/2025, 1:48:42 PM
>>510861630
>so basically, tell me if i'm understanding this right, the magians (priest-sorcerer-wisdomkeepers) were the link between hindu/vedic/aryan belief systems (featuring a pantheon of gods and steady-state world system) and zoroastrianianism
Yes, but you're forgetting that the pantheon of one is contrary to the other. Devas are gods in Hinduism, but demons in Zoroastrianism, and Asuras are demons in Hinduism, but gods in Zoroastrianism, due to a theological conflict between the Indo-Aryan tribes.
>how do the magians get along with Egyptians?
Herodotus says that the Magi were priests of Media, which was founded by Medus, son of Medea, who was a Colchian, a people that, according to his description, were Egyptians/Phoenicians.
>so basically, tell me if i'm understanding this right, the magians (priest-sorcerer-wisdomkeepers) were the link between hindu/vedic/aryan belief systems (featuring a pantheon of gods and steady-state world system) and zoroastrianianism
Yes, but you're forgetting that the pantheon of one is contrary to the other. Devas are gods in Hinduism, but demons in Zoroastrianism, and Asuras are demons in Hinduism, but gods in Zoroastrianism, due to a theological conflict between the Indo-Aryan tribes.
>how do the magians get along with Egyptians?
Herodotus says that the Magi were priests of Media, which was founded by Medus, son of Medea, who was a Colchian, a people that, according to his description, were Egyptians/Phoenicians.
7/8/2025, 7:34:13 PM
>>509844598
The French Revolution was originally supposed to be a Glorious Revolution with the Duke of Orleans, cousin of Louis XVI and Grand Master of French Freemasonry, as king, but the Montagnards guillotined him and most of the of their own party because the general paronoia after Louis was guillotined (with the Duke present) and the Monarchies of Europe declared war on France.
The French Revolution was originally supposed to be a Glorious Revolution with the Duke of Orleans, cousin of Louis XVI and Grand Master of French Freemasonry, as king, but the Montagnards guillotined him and most of the of their own party because the general paronoia after Louis was guillotined (with the Duke present) and the Monarchies of Europe declared war on France.
7/4/2025, 10:40:50 AM
>>509473360
Negroes descend from a Para-Eurasian-African lineage. Haplogroup DE, from which haplogroup E, the most common in all of Africa today, derives, emerged in East Africa, which is the closest part of Eurasia, also gave rise to haplogroup D, which is present in populations from Tibet, Japan and the Andaman Islands. After the separation of the oldest African lineages (A and B) and CT, the ancestor of DE, E and non-African haplogroups such as C (Asia, Oceania and America), F (peoples of Europe, South Asia and East Asia), etc.
Their E1b1a subclade expanded across the African continent during the Holocene, migrating mainly to West and Central/South Africa from the Bantu Expansion, where it mixed intensely with Native Ghost African, Pygmy and Khoisan populations that carriers the haplogroups A and B, forming a paternally para-Eurasian-African but maternally native African population. Therefore, despite its origin in the para-Eurasian-African haplogroup DE, E1b1a is not Eurasian, but para (parallel), since it remained and evolved entirely within Africa, without significant contact with Eurasian populations. In contrast, its brother E1b1b (North and East Africa) diverged further when it underwent admixture with the proto-Eurasians within Africa itself, in Northeast Africa, before the dispersal of these populations to the Levant and other regions, and their eventual return to Africa in the Neolithic, which resulted in a genetic makeup with a strong Eurasian influence from its African origins until the Neolithic Revolution.
Negroes descend from a Para-Eurasian-African lineage. Haplogroup DE, from which haplogroup E, the most common in all of Africa today, derives, emerged in East Africa, which is the closest part of Eurasia, also gave rise to haplogroup D, which is present in populations from Tibet, Japan and the Andaman Islands. After the separation of the oldest African lineages (A and B) and CT, the ancestor of DE, E and non-African haplogroups such as C (Asia, Oceania and America), F (peoples of Europe, South Asia and East Asia), etc.
Their E1b1a subclade expanded across the African continent during the Holocene, migrating mainly to West and Central/South Africa from the Bantu Expansion, where it mixed intensely with Native Ghost African, Pygmy and Khoisan populations that carriers the haplogroups A and B, forming a paternally para-Eurasian-African but maternally native African population. Therefore, despite its origin in the para-Eurasian-African haplogroup DE, E1b1a is not Eurasian, but para (parallel), since it remained and evolved entirely within Africa, without significant contact with Eurasian populations. In contrast, its brother E1b1b (North and East Africa) diverged further when it underwent admixture with the proto-Eurasians within Africa itself, in Northeast Africa, before the dispersal of these populations to the Levant and other regions, and their eventual return to Africa in the Neolithic, which resulted in a genetic makeup with a strong Eurasian influence from its African origins until the Neolithic Revolution.
7/1/2025, 5:59:26 AM
>>509185246
The snake cultists don't come from the Conan stories, they come from Kull. Here is how it got started:
>Robert E. Howard's "The Shadow Kingdom" was published in the Aug 1929 of Weird Tales, a pulp magazine of the strange and fantastic. The story involved the resurgence of a population of shape-changing Serpent-Men from prehistoric times, that had survived hidden from humans and seeking to control them. This was a development of a couple themes in Howard's work (serpent worship, Atlantis and an antediluvian age, a hidden race, etc.) which were drawn from a combination of concepts from contemporary anthropology, Theosophy, and popular fiction trends. It's notable that before this, there were basically few if any references to Serpent People or reptilian humanoids in association with Atlantis. Clark Ashton Smith, a friend and fellow-pulpster of Robert E. Howard, paid homage to his story by including serpent people in his story "The Seven Geases" in the Oct 1934 issue of Weird Tales; their friend H. P. Lovecraft made reference to them in several of his stories as well
>In the 1930s, a mimeographed booklet was published titled The Emerald Tablet of Thoth the Atlantean, by Maurice Doreal (sometimes Morris Doreal, real name apparently Claude Diggins), the founder of an occult group known as the Brotherhood of the White Temple. The esoteric poem includes a lot of material drawn from ancient Egyptian religion, Hermetic occultism, and Theosophy, but there's one passage in particular:
>"In the form of man they amongst us, but only to sight were they as are men. Serpent-headed when the glamour was lifted, but appearing to man as men among men. Crept they into the Councils, taking forms that were like unto men. Slaying by their arts the chiefs of the kingdoms, taking their form and ruling o’er man. Only by magic could they be discovered. Only by sound could their faces be seen. Sought they from the Kingdom of shadows to destroy man and rule in his place."
The snake cultists don't come from the Conan stories, they come from Kull. Here is how it got started:
>Robert E. Howard's "The Shadow Kingdom" was published in the Aug 1929 of Weird Tales, a pulp magazine of the strange and fantastic. The story involved the resurgence of a population of shape-changing Serpent-Men from prehistoric times, that had survived hidden from humans and seeking to control them. This was a development of a couple themes in Howard's work (serpent worship, Atlantis and an antediluvian age, a hidden race, etc.) which were drawn from a combination of concepts from contemporary anthropology, Theosophy, and popular fiction trends. It's notable that before this, there were basically few if any references to Serpent People or reptilian humanoids in association with Atlantis. Clark Ashton Smith, a friend and fellow-pulpster of Robert E. Howard, paid homage to his story by including serpent people in his story "The Seven Geases" in the Oct 1934 issue of Weird Tales; their friend H. P. Lovecraft made reference to them in several of his stories as well
>In the 1930s, a mimeographed booklet was published titled The Emerald Tablet of Thoth the Atlantean, by Maurice Doreal (sometimes Morris Doreal, real name apparently Claude Diggins), the founder of an occult group known as the Brotherhood of the White Temple. The esoteric poem includes a lot of material drawn from ancient Egyptian religion, Hermetic occultism, and Theosophy, but there's one passage in particular:
>"In the form of man they amongst us, but only to sight were they as are men. Serpent-headed when the glamour was lifted, but appearing to man as men among men. Crept they into the Councils, taking forms that were like unto men. Slaying by their arts the chiefs of the kingdoms, taking their form and ruling o’er man. Only by magic could they be discovered. Only by sound could their faces be seen. Sought they from the Kingdom of shadows to destroy man and rule in his place."
6/27/2025, 3:30:58 PM
>>17795372
>>17795442
>>17795459
What I find interesting with the identification with Hermes/Mercury is that Norse Mythology is obsessed with the number 9 and Hermes Trismegistus (that means Hermes Thrice Great, that is, 3+3+3), has this name because the Egyptian version he was based on, Thoth, was the patron god of the Ogdoad.
>Thoth was the patron god of Khemenu (Cities of the Eight/Ogdoad), known to the Greeks as Hermopolis. Being that the frogs and some snakes (Hydrophiinae) are inseminated from within water, the Ancient Egyptians must have seen the frog/serpent as being born of pure chaos, chaos here being defined as no distinguishable role between seed and nurturer in the development of the tadpole's life. They were born of chaos and thus are lords of chaos. Their interaction caused a mound of mud/land to emerge from the primordial waters, on which an Ibis (a bird associated with Thoth) laid an egg, from which the sun god Ra-Atum (Atum-Ra) who in turn engenders the Heliopolis 9-god family called the Ennead
>Nine is the number of worlds/homes connected via Yggdrasil, the cosmic world tree (Vǫluspá), that Woden hung himself from for nine days
>Nine is the number of witches in the wood (iviði) existing before the present world tree (Vǫluspá)
>Nine are the mothers of Hama 'World Dazzling', all sisters (Hyndluljóð, Heimdalargaldr, Snorri)
>Nine are the daughters owned by the ocean jötunn Aegir and Rán, personified in waves, streams, brightness and gold, often deadly (Snorri)
>Nine are the rune-carving daughters of the ocean god Njǫrðr, awaiting in the afterlife (Sólarljóð)
>Nine is the number of nights of the Nórna dómr - 'the verdict of the norns', where you sit in the Nornarstóll - 'the chair of the norns' after death, receiving your Fates' verdicts before moving on (Sólarljóð, Fafnismál) to what appears to be a whole specter of different afterlife possibilities
>Nine is the number of worlds in which Hel rules (Snorri)
>>17795442
>>17795459
What I find interesting with the identification with Hermes/Mercury is that Norse Mythology is obsessed with the number 9 and Hermes Trismegistus (that means Hermes Thrice Great, that is, 3+3+3), has this name because the Egyptian version he was based on, Thoth, was the patron god of the Ogdoad.
>Thoth was the patron god of Khemenu (Cities of the Eight/Ogdoad), known to the Greeks as Hermopolis. Being that the frogs and some snakes (Hydrophiinae) are inseminated from within water, the Ancient Egyptians must have seen the frog/serpent as being born of pure chaos, chaos here being defined as no distinguishable role between seed and nurturer in the development of the tadpole's life. They were born of chaos and thus are lords of chaos. Their interaction caused a mound of mud/land to emerge from the primordial waters, on which an Ibis (a bird associated with Thoth) laid an egg, from which the sun god Ra-Atum (Atum-Ra) who in turn engenders the Heliopolis 9-god family called the Ennead
>Nine is the number of worlds/homes connected via Yggdrasil, the cosmic world tree (Vǫluspá), that Woden hung himself from for nine days
>Nine is the number of witches in the wood (iviði) existing before the present world tree (Vǫluspá)
>Nine are the mothers of Hama 'World Dazzling', all sisters (Hyndluljóð, Heimdalargaldr, Snorri)
>Nine are the daughters owned by the ocean jötunn Aegir and Rán, personified in waves, streams, brightness and gold, often deadly (Snorri)
>Nine are the rune-carving daughters of the ocean god Njǫrðr, awaiting in the afterlife (Sólarljóð)
>Nine is the number of nights of the Nórna dómr - 'the verdict of the norns', where you sit in the Nornarstóll - 'the chair of the norns' after death, receiving your Fates' verdicts before moving on (Sólarljóð, Fafnismál) to what appears to be a whole specter of different afterlife possibilities
>Nine is the number of worlds in which Hel rules (Snorri)
6/26/2025, 5:54:57 AM
Oops, I think I posted on the wrong board.
6/25/2025, 9:14:59 PM
>>508686363
Muslim Black Patrol, hue.
Muslim Black Patrol, hue.
6/11/2025, 11:54:56 PM
>>17755643
>Thor vs Jormungander
Obviously IE.
>Zeus vs Typhon
>Tarhunna vs Illuyanka
>Ba'al vs Litan
>Yahweh vs Leviathan
>Set and Ra vs Apep
All of these have a common origin. The part of Anatolian nearest to Syria was inhabited by non-IE/Semite Hurrians. The Hurrian thunder god (Teshub) is attested after their contact with early Anatolians and PIEs. The first Semitic thunder god (Hadad, first called Hadda) appears in Ebla, northern Syria, adjacent to the Hurrians.
The Semitic trope pairing Hadad/Ba'al/Adad, a thunder god, with Yam/Lotan/Tiamat, an oceanic serpent monster, is clearly PIE-influenced. Hadad first appears as Eblaite Hadda in the fringe of Semitic territory in northern Syria adjacent to Hurrian lands in Anatolia. The Hurrians (neither Semitic nor IE) had a chief thunder god called Teshub who seems to have been an indigenous thunder god associated with Mount Zaphon (frequently struck by lightning) merged with the Hittite chief thunder god, the Indo-European Tarhunna (cognate with Thor/thunder). The Hittites were an Indo-European speaking people who conquered Hurrian lands from the north and blended with them.
In Egypt, Baal Hadad was syncretized with Seth. "Apophis was first mentioned in the Eighth Dynasty" so 2200 BC, and "Tales of Apep's battles against Seth were elaborated during the New Kingdom" so 1500 BC, AFTER Hyksos (Aka Amorites, the same ones who founded the Babylonian Dynasty of Hammurabi whose national god was Marduk) rule, they worshiped Seth and syncretized them with Apophis/Yam-Lotan (there was even a pharaoh named after him). They were from Canaan and were descendants ultimately of Amorites who originated near Ebla. Ebla was a major city from 2500 BC and was a short distance away from the Anatolia for 1000 years. Most likely path for Apep is Proto-Indo-Europeans > Anatolians > Ebla > Amorites > Ugarit > Canaanites > Hyksos > Egypt.
>Thor vs Jormungander
Obviously IE.
>Zeus vs Typhon
>Tarhunna vs Illuyanka
>Ba'al vs Litan
>Yahweh vs Leviathan
>Set and Ra vs Apep
All of these have a common origin. The part of Anatolian nearest to Syria was inhabited by non-IE/Semite Hurrians. The Hurrian thunder god (Teshub) is attested after their contact with early Anatolians and PIEs. The first Semitic thunder god (Hadad, first called Hadda) appears in Ebla, northern Syria, adjacent to the Hurrians.
The Semitic trope pairing Hadad/Ba'al/Adad, a thunder god, with Yam/Lotan/Tiamat, an oceanic serpent monster, is clearly PIE-influenced. Hadad first appears as Eblaite Hadda in the fringe of Semitic territory in northern Syria adjacent to Hurrian lands in Anatolia. The Hurrians (neither Semitic nor IE) had a chief thunder god called Teshub who seems to have been an indigenous thunder god associated with Mount Zaphon (frequently struck by lightning) merged with the Hittite chief thunder god, the Indo-European Tarhunna (cognate with Thor/thunder). The Hittites were an Indo-European speaking people who conquered Hurrian lands from the north and blended with them.
In Egypt, Baal Hadad was syncretized with Seth. "Apophis was first mentioned in the Eighth Dynasty" so 2200 BC, and "Tales of Apep's battles against Seth were elaborated during the New Kingdom" so 1500 BC, AFTER Hyksos (Aka Amorites, the same ones who founded the Babylonian Dynasty of Hammurabi whose national god was Marduk) rule, they worshiped Seth and syncretized them with Apophis/Yam-Lotan (there was even a pharaoh named after him). They were from Canaan and were descendants ultimately of Amorites who originated near Ebla. Ebla was a major city from 2500 BC and was a short distance away from the Anatolia for 1000 years. Most likely path for Apep is Proto-Indo-Europeans > Anatolians > Ebla > Amorites > Ugarit > Canaanites > Hyksos > Egypt.
6/11/2025, 9:31:56 PM
>>17755107
>characterized by hierarchical but meritocratic social organization, patriarchal but not misogynist, determinism applied to all levels of life. Ideally high social trust and social discipline, outgroups tend to be blamed
This is Prussian culture, not German. Germany and these other countries you listed together follow a combination of Protestant work ethic + Law of Jante. The German Empire implemented the seeds of current Social Democracy, since it was the chancellor of this shit, Otto von Bismarck who invented:
>The Welfare State;
>Public health;
>The financial pyramid that forms the basis of every Social Security system in the world today;
>State control over the market
Interestingly, Bismarck made these socialist reforms to prevent the growth of the SPD, the fusion of SDAP with ADAV and with de-radicalization of Anti-Socialist Laws. It's because this Marx and Engels were against social-democracy, as they considered social benefits and labour laws to be bribes that would prevent the proletariat from revolting, being used by conservative reactionaries to prevent the transition of capitalism to socialism.
Hegel, the father of all modern ideologies left-Heleianism -> Marxism, right-Hegelianism -> Fascism, neo-Kantianism + Hegelianism -> Liberal Democracy. Karl Marx necessarily follows from Martin Luther. Martin Luther was sufficient for Karl Marx. If there was no protestant Reformation, there would've been no German idealism and if there was no German idealism there would've been no German materialism, i.e. Marx and Engels.
German Reformation --> Puritanical thought -> extreme abolitionism -> late 18th to early 19th century progressivism and social Christianity -> civil rights and female empowerment -> anti racism and sexual minorities.
>characterized by hierarchical but meritocratic social organization, patriarchal but not misogynist, determinism applied to all levels of life. Ideally high social trust and social discipline, outgroups tend to be blamed
This is Prussian culture, not German. Germany and these other countries you listed together follow a combination of Protestant work ethic + Law of Jante. The German Empire implemented the seeds of current Social Democracy, since it was the chancellor of this shit, Otto von Bismarck who invented:
>The Welfare State;
>Public health;
>The financial pyramid that forms the basis of every Social Security system in the world today;
>State control over the market
Interestingly, Bismarck made these socialist reforms to prevent the growth of the SPD, the fusion of SDAP with ADAV and with de-radicalization of Anti-Socialist Laws. It's because this Marx and Engels were against social-democracy, as they considered social benefits and labour laws to be bribes that would prevent the proletariat from revolting, being used by conservative reactionaries to prevent the transition of capitalism to socialism.
Hegel, the father of all modern ideologies left-Heleianism -> Marxism, right-Hegelianism -> Fascism, neo-Kantianism + Hegelianism -> Liberal Democracy. Karl Marx necessarily follows from Martin Luther. Martin Luther was sufficient for Karl Marx. If there was no protestant Reformation, there would've been no German idealism and if there was no German idealism there would've been no German materialism, i.e. Marx and Engels.
German Reformation --> Puritanical thought -> extreme abolitionism -> late 18th to early 19th century progressivism and social Christianity -> civil rights and female empowerment -> anti racism and sexual minorities.
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