And it's just obvious. The arguments defending the dropping of the bombs are overall very bad.
>The bombs were necessary to force Japan to surrender
That's false. An American report concluded as early as 1946 that Japan would have surrendered by November 1945 at the latest even without the atomic bombs.
We now know that the Soviet Union's entry into the war, with which the Japanese were still trying to negotiate (which the Americans knew, by the way), probably had more impact than the bombs. Which makes perfect sense, for that matter.
The idea that the Japanese were fanatics who would have fought to the last man doesn't hold up when you look at what actually happened.
>The bombs saved lives because the invasion of Japan would have been even deadlier
That's false, obviously. The bombs only killed people. This line of thinking is reassuring for Americans who can imagine that Truman was faced with a gigantic trolley problem and made the rational choice. But that's not what happened. At no point did the American decision-makers hesitate to drop the bombs. They were absolutely not opposed to the invasion but were meant to go hand in hand with it. This idea also stems from hindsight knowledge. We know that Japan surrendered after two bombs. The Americans at the time had no idea and were planning to drop even more.
There was never any desire to minimize civilian casualties—quite the contrary.
If the Americans truly wanted to cause as few deaths as possible, they should have, as Stimson proposed, reassured Japan about the fate of the emperor rather than insisting on unconditional surrender. The first draft of the Potsdam Declaration mentioned it directly, but it was removed by Truman. Grey went even further and wanted to warn the Japanese in advance that the use of the atomic bomb was imminent.
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It was a war crime
Why did you nuke my fucking senpais?
I can never forgive you. You should have nuked niggers or muslims instead.
I can never forgive you. You should have nuked niggers or muslims instead.
>>519117566
>and fuck americans, they woudn't be able to save you. At that point red army were a battle hardened unstoppable beast.
>and fuck americans, they woudn't be able to save you. At that point red army were a battle hardened unstoppable beast.
What would Japan be like today if we hadn't nuked them?
>>41262377
Lier. Only 1-2% of the u235 purportedly in little boy was claimed to fission, this is a huge amount of u235, the claimed u235 release from little boy is in the same ballpark as Chernobyl. And again, u235 has a 700 million year half-life, 99.9999% of this would still be there
Lier. Only 1-2% of the u235 purportedly in little boy was claimed to fission, this is a huge amount of u235, the claimed u235 release from little boy is in the same ballpark as Chernobyl. And again, u235 has a 700 million year half-life, 99.9999% of this would still be there
>samson option
Nukes are as real as the holocaust. Just another iteration of the “do as I say or the sun will stop rising” psyop they’ve been abusing for millennia.
Look at these shitty composites they tried to pass off as pictures of the bombings, they look so fucking laughable to our shopped-trained eyes it’s ridiculous.
Notice that neither Hiroshima nor Nagasaki have elevated radiation levels, nor increased cancer rates, nor circular blast radius, in Hiroshima an unreinforced masonry building survived at “ground zero”, both had destruction indistinguishable from the other large scale fire bombings of the war like Dresden. Indeed, the extent of the destruction of the fire bombings was classified for decades after the war. Why? Because the nuke hoax wouldn’t have held if the destruction were compared.
Politics is fake and gay theater. All of it.
Nukes are as real as the holocaust. Just another iteration of the “do as I say or the sun will stop rising” psyop they’ve been abusing for millennia.
Look at these shitty composites they tried to pass off as pictures of the bombings, they look so fucking laughable to our shopped-trained eyes it’s ridiculous.
Notice that neither Hiroshima nor Nagasaki have elevated radiation levels, nor increased cancer rates, nor circular blast radius, in Hiroshima an unreinforced masonry building survived at “ground zero”, both had destruction indistinguishable from the other large scale fire bombings of the war like Dresden. Indeed, the extent of the destruction of the fire bombings was classified for decades after the war. Why? Because the nuke hoax wouldn’t have held if the destruction were compared.
Politics is fake and gay theater. All of it.
>>513419622
WW2, I'll drop three
WW2, I'll drop three
>why don’t Americans mindlessly consume propaganda like we yuropoors?!?
Trvth Nvke: nukes are fake, oligarchs are grifting faggots. Just another iteration of the “do as I say or the sun will stop rising” psyop they’ve been abusing for millennia.
Look at these shitty composites they tried to pass off as pictures of the bombings, they look so fucking laughable to our shopped-trained eyes it’s ridiculous.
Notice that neither Hiroshima nor Nagasaki have elevated radiation levels, nor circular blast radius, in Hiroshima an unreinforced masonry building survived at “ground zero”, both had destruction indistinguishable from the other large scale fire bombings of the war like Dresden. Indeed, the extent of the destruction of the fire bombings was classified for decades after the war. Why? Because the nuke hoax wouldn’t have held if the destruction were compared.
Indeed, you can’t weaponize atomic energy as it’s analogous to a low explosive, you would need nuclear confinement to generate a big boom. They tried for 80 years to create a real doomsday weapon (as they’re psychopaths) using every imaginable core shape and design, but they failed as it just isn’t possible, you can’t confine it long enough to make it go big-boom.
Trvth Nvke: nukes are fake, oligarchs are grifting faggots. Just another iteration of the “do as I say or the sun will stop rising” psyop they’ve been abusing for millennia.
Look at these shitty composites they tried to pass off as pictures of the bombings, they look so fucking laughable to our shopped-trained eyes it’s ridiculous.
Notice that neither Hiroshima nor Nagasaki have elevated radiation levels, nor circular blast radius, in Hiroshima an unreinforced masonry building survived at “ground zero”, both had destruction indistinguishable from the other large scale fire bombings of the war like Dresden. Indeed, the extent of the destruction of the fire bombings was classified for decades after the war. Why? Because the nuke hoax wouldn’t have held if the destruction were compared.
Indeed, you can’t weaponize atomic energy as it’s analogous to a low explosive, you would need nuclear confinement to generate a big boom. They tried for 80 years to create a real doomsday weapon (as they’re psychopaths) using every imaginable core shape and design, but they failed as it just isn’t possible, you can’t confine it long enough to make it go big-boom.
>>512348493
>Dropping on in a rice field would have had the same effect.
Indeed. Little problem: nukes aren’t real. The fire bombings of Hiroshima & Nagasaki and the subsequent nuclear propaganda campaign weren’t aimed at the Japanese, they were aimed at the West’s citizens. A tool of psychological warfare to justify the totalitarian world government of the post-war era.
Just look at these obvious optical composites they tried to pass off as photos of the bombings. Complete joke.
>Dropping on in a rice field would have had the same effect.
Indeed. Little problem: nukes aren’t real. The fire bombings of Hiroshima & Nagasaki and the subsequent nuclear propaganda campaign weren’t aimed at the Japanese, they were aimed at the West’s citizens. A tool of psychological warfare to justify the totalitarian world government of the post-war era.
Just look at these obvious optical composites they tried to pass off as photos of the bombings. Complete joke.
Patsy looks like a Hiroshima survivor.
Now that the dust has settled, was there any real alternative to cooking Nagasaki and Hiroshima?
Were two enough?
>>511463266
Good guys don't do this
Good guys don't do this
>well you see, the bombs actually saved lives. So it was a good thing.
How do Americans seriously believe this nonsense?
How do Americans seriously believe this nonsense?
>>149434909
uh huh, go back to the forest
uh huh, go back to the forest
James Cameron on Oppenheimer "not showing the bombing is a morale cop out"
>In an interview with Deadline, James Cameron, currently developing his own film centered on Hiroshima, doesn’t hold back when it comes to criticizing Nolan’s approach
>You say this could be your lowest-grossing film because of the subject matter. How surprised were you that Christopher Nolan’s movie Oppenheimer grossed almost $1 billion and won seven Oscars? Clearly people are interested in that whole splitting of the atom.
>Yeah, it’s interesting what he stayed away from. Look, I love the filmmaking, but I did feel that it was a bit of a moral cop-out. Because it’s not like Oppenheimer didn’t know the effects. He’s got one brief scene in the film where we see — and I don’t like to criticize another filmmaker’s film – but there’s only one brief moment where he sees some charred bodies in the audience, and then the film goes on to show how it deeply moved him. But I felt that it dodged the subject. I don’t know whether the studio or Chris felt that that was a third rail that they didn’t want to touch, but I want to go straight at the third rail.
https://deadline.com/2025/06/james-cameron-interview-ghosts-of-hiroshima-movie-a-bomb-japan-1236444510/
>You say this could be your lowest-grossing film because of the subject matter. How surprised were you that Christopher Nolan’s movie Oppenheimer grossed almost $1 billion and won seven Oscars? Clearly people are interested in that whole splitting of the atom.
>Yeah, it’s interesting what he stayed away from. Look, I love the filmmaking, but I did feel that it was a bit of a moral cop-out. Because it’s not like Oppenheimer didn’t know the effects. He’s got one brief scene in the film where we see — and I don’t like to criticize another filmmaker’s film – but there’s only one brief moment where he sees some charred bodies in the audience, and then the film goes on to show how it deeply moved him. But I felt that it dodged the subject. I don’t know whether the studio or Chris felt that that was a third rail that they didn’t want to touch, but I want to go straight at the third rail.
https://deadline.com/2025/06/james-cameron-interview-ghosts-of-hiroshima-movie-a-bomb-japan-1236444510/
>>81507516
Posts like this always make me remember why America should've dropped more than two nukes on Japan.
Posts like this always make me remember why America should've dropped more than two nukes on Japan.
>>507469962
Not as embarrassing as being fried rice, nip.
Not as embarrassing as being fried rice, nip.