>Mark Schlereth found out he was let go via social media.
TV executives are savages.

Joe Flacco

daily reminder aints will win the NFC south

Mahomes > Brady

More TDs
More Wins
More Yards
More MVPs
More Accuracy
More Superbowls
More Passer Rating

>>149836144

Dem boyz got ya hot and bothered?

>>149836144
.

Posting this fast one so he can't use it.

>>149836144
..

>>149836144
...

>>149836142
If not for Billy Chokesdiff easily would have had 2 SB wins imo OwO

>>149836155
>adjusted era stats
kek

>>149836172
Lee Evans choked harder than Billy Cundiff. He was a 10 year vet multiple times pro bowl WR and Flacco put the ball right in his hands. Lee Evans was more to blame than Cundiff. Maybe an edgy opinion I don't care fuck him

>>149836155
>>149836160
>>149836168
>adjusted era stats
Imagine if we used adjusted era concept with everything in life. Let's raise every student's GPA since the students from the previous semester did better!

>>149836207
For some odd reason Ravens just cannot find good WRs decades later too. >-@

>>149836166
Sacks are a QB stat

>>149836240
>Chiefs went forever without an elite WR
>Finally find one in Tyreek Hill
>Ass monkey GM trades him away.

Scene girls prefer the Raiders, in theory.

>>149836142
Why do you hate Dave Portnoy.

>>149836256
They had Tony for years though did nothing with him I am not saying Ravens didn't have solid recievers but they weren't on the level of other teams like Seattle, Bungalows or others who regularly put up 1k+ yards

>>149836278
I don't hate anyone. Waste of energy that could be used towards having a good time and watching ball. I dislike him because he's an uppity douche bag

Bo Nix
Lix Dix

Oh, Bo Nix
Lix Dix

Oh yes Bo Nix
Lix Dix

All Day!
All Night!
All colors!
All sizes!
All ages!
All species!
>he even has a walk in closet just for his realistic fantasy Dix, dragon Dix, Orge Dix, Alien Dix, all the Dix than Nix always fantasized about his whole life. Now all to belong to his mouth

Oh yes Bo Nix
Lix Dix

Bo Nix
Lix Dix

And he's throbbing hard the whole time

>>149836237
Favre also got worse. As did Marino. There is no guarantee Mahomes will follow one trajectory or the other. What is certain is he won't have the best receiving TE of all time for much longer, and that even with him his stats have been middling for the past couple seasons. And it's not a given he will have Reid, arguably the best offensive HC in NFL history, for that much longer either.
>>149836260
She's beautiful.

>>149836166
>washed
No, he's playing at a higher level than he was in 2018, though the stats don't reflect this.

>>149836260
Perfect position I think as I crash a baseball bat across her face with a mighty swing. I told you to do a better job making cute faces I yell as I crack the bat down on her head over and over until she's murmuring half conscious. She will be punished again in the morning to make sure she learns

>>149836142
I'd take him over Baker for one game if my life depended on it.

>>149836319
His post season stats are still god-like and his rate of making it to owls is increasing with time.

this is it, this is the season I will finally end my life. I am 33, broke, no career, short, fat, ugly. I will never be loved by a woman, own a home, have a real job, have a family, or have anything to be proud of. nothing is enjoyable, every day is just another miserable experience trying the best I can to distract myself from my bleak reality. my football team is quite possibly the worst in the entire league, and looks to be that way for quite some time. if my fantasy team ends up being absurdly dominant for the first half of the season, I will probably stick around to see if I can win the championship. otherwise, Im done. with my luck even if that happens, they will choke during the championship game and make my decision that much easier. I dont care who wins the owl this year, and Ill never know. I feel awful for my dad who this will hit harder than anyone, but at a certain point I cant just keep suffering a pointless sad existence just so a family member doesnt have to feel bad. at least I will always have 09.

>>149836350

>>149836359
Are we talking Mahomes? He's got 5 years left, all mid and forgettable. No more Super Bowl appearances. It's crazy looking back at now, talking to people who don't know it's over

>>149836370
do a flip aints fag

>>149836370
It'll get better Raiders fan

> at least I will always have 09
Oh, I didn't read this. Saints fan*

I stopped reading at "worst team in the league" and assumed you were a Raiders fan.

>>149836421
Saints are the team expected to go 0-17 this year. They are the underdogs in all 17 games. Some they are only slight underdogs so they might win a handful. 5-12?

>>149836370
dont worry, once youve seen spenser rattler with a healthy offense and a real HC youll put down the gun (and shough "the cuck" will pick it up)

>>149836370
Might as well keep living though. Not only could things get better at any time from sheer luck and/or effort (finding a woman and/or good job), but also it's at least slightly possible that suicide leads to some kind of punishment or purgatory after death.
My life sucks too. I have a dead end job and I'm renting an apartment room from my brother and I honestly wish I could do drugs because they made me feel way better. But hoping and working towards improving the situation feels good. At least I think its better than being rich and depressed, because those people have less potential to increase their happiness.

>>149836490

>>149836504
Guy on the left looks way better.

>>149836504
Left it is

>>149836487
>>149836370
Exercise.
Start with this calisthenics routine
https://www.reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness/wiki/kb/recommended_routine/
>r*ddit
I know
Stop watching porn. I recommend using blocking software. I used Plucky.
Get 8 hours of sleep. Have a regular sleep schedule. Eat a high protein diet. Eggs, meat, protein shakes. Fruits, veggies are fine too. Pasta, rice.

>>149836504
>>149836520
>>149836531
Brady threw 3 INTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPJv9YzozoQ

>>149836218
It's a different game, dumbass.
>2004 – Illegal Contact Emphasis (“Ty Law Rule”)
Defenders can’t touch WRs beyond 5 yards downfield
NFL starts actually enforcing it
Man coverage gets nerfed hard
Short routes and timing throws explode in popularity
>2006 – Low Hits on Quarterbacks
No more diving at QBs’ knees if you're on the ground
Comes after Palmer’s ACL tear
DL have to tackle higher = more time to throw
QB longevity starts improving
>2009 – Defenseless Receiver Rule
Can’t hit a receiver in the head/neck while they’re vulnerable
Mostly protects guys going over the middle
Safeties can't play enforcer anymore
Middle of the field becomes QB's playground
>2010 – Helmet-to-Helmet Hit Crackdown
Big fines and flags for headshots
Hits on WRs and QBs get nerfed
DBs pull up instead of hitting through the route
Way fewer drops from fear
>2011 – Kickoff Line Moved (30 35)
Touchbacks skyrocket
Offenses start drives at the 25 consistently
Fewer injuries, but also more consistent field position
More scoring opportunities = more QB stats
>2013 – Crown-of-the-Helmet Rule
Ball carriers can’t lower the crown in open field
Nerfs power running a bit
Teams shift even more toward passing
Ground game loses its intimidation factor
>2014 – Expanded “Defenseless Player” Designation
Now includes players on change of possession (e.g. QBs after INTs)
Defenders constantly second-guessing themselves
Clean big hits basically extinct
Offense has total freedom
>2018 – “Body Weight” Rule
Can’t land on QBs with full body weight after a sack
Clay Matthews commits legal hits still gets flagged
DL hesitate or whiff to avoid penalties
QBs get cleaner pockets and stay upright longer
>2018 – Catch Rule Simplified
No more “going to the ground” BS
Catch counts if you control it + make a football move
Fewer controversial incompletions
Higher completion % and drive consistency
>2021 – 17-Game Season
One extra game
>>149836576
See>>149836149 >>149836504
Outdueled by GRANDPA Brady.

Offside, defence, number 55, lined up in the neutral zone

Five yard penalty

We'll repeat 3rd down

>>149836610
There haven't been any major rule changes since the time Brady started playing that would have a major impact on stats. The refs just changed how often they enforce existing rules.
>1993 - they changed it so intentional grounding was no longer called if the QB was outside of the hash marks when throwing if the pass falls beyond the line of scrimmage
>1994 - many rule changes, league wanted a higher emphasis on the offensive game in general vs kicking, OL were now able to line up with one foot behind the line of scrimmage instead of needing two (modern OTs now do this most plays, gives them an easier time in pass protection matching the edge rusher). 2 Point conversions added. Spot of the ball at a missed field goal was changed from the spot on the line of scrimmage to the spot of the kick (makes kicking slightly more risky) and QBs were given transmitters in their helmets so they could hear their coaches talking from the sideline for the first time
>1995 - roughing the passer is added as a penalty, previously defenders could do whatever they wanted to the QB if they hit him while he was throwing or just after
>1995 - changed rules surrounding WRs pushed out of bounds being able to return to the field mid-play, defenders used to be able to push WRs out and the player could no longer be active for the rest of the play
>1996 - illegal contact rules introduced in 1978 are expanded upon and more strictly enforced
>2001 - roughing the passer becomes more strictly enforced with an emphasis on late hits (year of Brady's first owl)
>2002 - became illegal to hit a QB helmet to helmet after a turnover, used to be legal for a defender to walk up to a QB and hit him as hard as possible in the head if the offense had just turned the ball over

line up this bussy

>>149836535
Yeah, exercising seems to help. I need to stop being lazy and get restarted on that.

>>149836645
I just gave you a list. And what you say is easily contradicted. You like PR? Here's that
>Brady 2001-2007:
93.0 (80.5 NFL avg) +12.5
>Mahomes 2018-2024:
103.4 (90.9 NFL avg) +12.5

contradict this bussy

who's your favorite 2000s era running back? for me, it's Ahman Green

>>149836686
You have to be retarded to be a Bradyfag and what's the point of arguing with a retard? That's literally a waste of time

Priest Holmes
Shaun Alexander
Arian Foster
Darren Sproles
Ray Rice
Marshawn Lynch
Maurice Jones-Drew
Brandon Jacobs
Tim Hightower
Steven Jackson
Doug "Dougernaut" Martin
Chris Johnson
Danny Woodhead
Marion "The Barbarian" Barber

>>149836707
Raiders: Darren McFadden
Non-Raiders: Brandon Jacobs

>>149836802
Also Charlie Garner

>>149836686
>>149836610
Here's another idea, what if Brady was just really really mediocre in his 20s? He only averaged 3,500 yards, whereas elite QBs like Peyton, Marino, and Mahomes averaged 4k yards in their 20s. Brady didn't get good until his 30s when they added Randy Moss.

Mahomes is competing with elite QBs like Rodgers and Peyton in his 20s, Brady's stats aren't even top 10 in that regard, so not sure why you keep inserting him into these stat debates. Wait for Mahomes to get in his 30s then we can see how he measures up with Brady.

>>149836531
I like how the kiwi knows ball and pretends to be a cazie to help the Brady fanboy out.

I've never watched an NFL game in my life I'm merely pretending

>>149836845
>Wait for Mahomes to get in his 30s then we can see how he measures up with Brady.
True. Mahomes has a lot of work to do in order to be mentioned in the same breath as Brady. He's on a good pace though.

>>149836922
More like Mahomes, Peyton, and Rodgers statmog Brady in his 20s, so Brady isn't included in their competition for best stats.

Brady does much better in his 30s since his peers begin to slow down with age. We'll see how he measures up with Mahomes.

>>149836845
Nice idea! Unfortunately it is wrong. As I have already shown, Brady's stats through their first 7 seasons are comparable, with Brady having the much higher peak, which is unfortunate for Mahomes since it seems impossible he will keep pace with Brady going forward. Here's another:
>Passing DVOA
Brady 2001-2007: 22.2%
Mahomes 2018-2024: 23.4%
>Number of games played with at least 1 skill player that was named an AP All-Pro for the season in which the game occurred, first 94 career starts
Peyton Manning: 93/94
Patrick Mahomes: 92/94
Tom Brady: 0/94

Here is an example of the statistical production Mahomes will have to match to keep pace. Brady from 2007-2012 AVERAGED a better season than Mahomes' very best of 2018.
>Patrick Mahomes’ single-season career-highs
DYAR - 2,031 (2018)
DVOA - 39.9% (2018)
>Tom Brady’s AVERAGE season from 2007-2012
DYAR - 2,129
DVOA - 42.3%
Let's hope Mahomes can have 5 straight 2018-style seasons (he would still be behind Brady in that stretch). LOL the gap is so big between them, these conversations are always funny.

>>149836370
imagine having a chip and still being this much of a whiny faggot, grow some balls pussy.

>>149836948
>Brady does much better in his 30s since his peers begin to slow down with age.
Compared to anyone at any time, he did tremendous things in his thirties.

>We'll see how he measures up with Mahomes.
Other way around.

I just remembered I used to pay $430 a week for a fully furnished apartment and the master bedroom came with a cuc.k chair. What did they mean by this?

>>149837007
It means you're lonely and crave attention from others by making retarded posts on an anonymous anime picture posting website.

>>149837032
Oh no

Amyway

>>149837007
Sounds like you got the Mahomes' old digs. Sweet score, man!

>>149837083
>that .png

What the heck? This isn't real...... or is it??

>>149837124
I was unsure at first, but then I found these articles (see image for one example) confirming that Mahomes lets his wife get railed by other men.

>>149837149
Zamn!! I guess the dibbate is over

The Steelers are so damn consistent. Super Bowl appearances across all different eras. Always .500 or better. Haven't blown a three possession lead since 1981.

>>149837438
The Steelers are a fucking embarrassment and sacrificed Ben Roethlisberger's legacy to make Mike Tomlin look less incompetent

>Ben Roethlisberger clearly a HOF level Quarterback 2004-2020
>Dick LeBeau clearly a HOF level Defensive coordinator 2004-2014
>UMMMMM ACKSHUALLY MIKE TOMLIN NEVER HAR HELP HE CARRIED THE GARBAGE STEELERS NO LOSING SEASONS WOWWWW SUPER IMPRESSIVE NIGGERMAN!!

Yea this is why I don't take American opinions about NFL seriously

my steelies make the kiwi seethe endlessly :)
my steelies mog ya :)

>>149836112 (OP)
>Bar Stool
I hate this faggot manlet like you wouldn't believe

>>149837568
>missing the point

I'm saying Mike Tomlin is incredibly overrated and Ben Roethlisberger+Dick LeBeau are underrated because of their head coaches incompetence. Roeth should have had more rings

>>149837600
i didn't miss the point. the point is my steelies mog ya.

ps tomnig should have been fired when ben retired i'm not the autist that posted that chart

>>149837673
How do the steelies mog the Ravens? You haven't won a Superbowl since February 2008 and haven't won a playoff game since January 2017
>muh regular season wins
You're not relevant

>>149837726
The Jaguars have never won a Superbowl but nice false equivalence. The New England Patriots have won the same amount of playoff games as the Carolina Panthers since 2019

The Chicago Bears have won the same amount of Superbowls as the Houston Texans since 2004 wowwww

Tom Brady has raped the same amount of kids as Patrick Mahomes wowwww

>>149837761
>The New England Patriots have won the same amount of playoff games as the Carolina Panthers since 2019
yeah both teams are shit is the point hes making

>>149837799
I don't believe Tom has raped any kids unless Giselle accidentally put him under a rapey witchcraft spell instead of the usual football ones.

90s NFL programs have such a great look to them

>>149836144
>>149836149
>>149836155
>>149836160
what does this contribue?

Jaguars and Panthers old logo are a lot better too

>>149838147
yeah we used to be a proper country

Everyone point & laff at the Choofs
*inhales*
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAHAHJAHAHAHAHAJHAAHJAJAJAHAHA

>>149838302
>$20
sounds about right

>>149836144
Aw man, the "my steelers" guy is a Mahomes guy? :(

>>149838349
potential gadget play guy versus potential workhorse

Xavier Worthy is a great wide receiver.

>>149836112 (OP)
His nose keeps growing

>>149838349
tbf look at the bum throwing him the ball. not everyone can have herbie dropping dimes every snap

Loinsissies, you're not off the hook either

>>149838370
he's also better after the catch and wins the eye test, especially in the red zone

>>149836098

>>149838302
The Tradition begins

>>149836112 (OP)
I think Mark Schlereth does a good job talking football. Hope he finds another job elsewhere.

>>149838389

The Last Samurai...

>>149838445
Even better example, yes

this guy is dead and you're alive, life isn't fair

>>149838389
He played fine for having the most man coverage snaps in the league as a rookie. Lions play single high safety every snap. It’s apples and oranges.

Whats the most based and cringe team from each division?
NFC East
Based: Giants
Cringe: Commies
NFC West
Based: Cardinals
Cringe: 49ers
NFC North
Based: Vikings
Cringe: Packers
NFC South
Based: Panthers
Cringe: Falcons

there is no argument for brady over mahomes besides arguing over years that havent happened yet or "muh head to head" (in which case eli>brady). stats and eye test both scream mahomes. you faggots dont even watch football, brady wasnt considered a top guy until 2007. mahomes was the best qb in the league his first year starting.

>>149838501
This is cope

>>149838415
kek

>>149838532
YDKB

>>149838542
This is also cope.
TERRION ARNOLD JUST GOT CALLED FOR HOLDING AGAIN!

AFC East
Based: Dolphins
Cringe: Buffalel
AFC West
Based: Chargers
Cringe: Raiders
AFC North
Based: Ravens
Cringe: Bengals
AFC South
Based: Titans
Cringe: Colts

>>149836845
Omg guys Mahomie put up bigger passing stats in his le 20s throwing to Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce than Brady did throwing to *checks notes* Deion Branch and David Patten?
The science is heckin' settled!

>>149838514
>NFC North
>Based: Vikings
>Cringe: Packers
There are no based teams in the NFCN, but the Vikings are definitely the most cringe.

>>149838600
i dont know man they got a cool color scheme and logo, they also have a lot of hot women fans

>>149838586
yeah brady had it real tough playing with the best defense, GOAT kicker and GOAT cheater at HC every year. no other QB couldve put up 150 yards in a superbowl the way tom did.

>>149838586
SHUT UP THAT DOESN'T MATTER.
...
anyway mahomes had a statistical regression because his receivers were bad or injured

the hilarious thing about this whole schizo Tom Brady vs Mahomes argument is theres not even a Patriots or Tampa Bay fan here as far as I know
Theres 32 teams in the league and the only ones ever talked about here are the Eagles Chiefs Raiders Rams Chargers Vikings and Cowboys

>>149838631
Despite the influx of Somalis, the state of Minnesota is full of blonde haired blue eyed scandi looking people. I drive there on a regular basis
t. Wisconsinite

>>149838584
I want to put my nose in her butthole.

Imagine being a superstar nfl QB worshipped by millions and you marry some 4/10 bag face like brittany mahomes or giselle. theres no way they arent both (barely) repressed homosexuals.

>>149838782
young giselle was hot bro, every girl out of dicaprio's stable was a dime

My Steelers :)

you gotta be gay if you somehow convinced yourself a billionaire supermodel is ugly

Giselle Buttchin is not hot. Tom's new potential whore, on the other hand...

Hopefully this will end the Brady/Mahomes argument, but I doubt it.
Era adjusted passer ratings:
1. Otto Graham: 134.28
2. Steve Young: 132.78
3. Peyton Manning 127.55
4. Joe Montana: 126.35
5. Aaron Rodgers: 126.19
6. Roger Staubach 125.83
7. Kurt Warner 125.73
8. Patrick Mahomes 123.75
9. Tom Brady: 123.14
10. Len Dawson: 122.9

Now can we talk about SOMETHING ELSE?

>>149836144
>>149836158
huh, your extra autistic early in the morning

>>149838809
>man jaw
>no ass
>no tits

by normal person standards shes hot, by nfl wife standards shes below average. being propped up by the kike modeling industry is irrelevant.

>>149838809
mogged by my wife temujin

>>149838881
>he still thinks temujin is afab

The Green Gay Fudge Packers

The Tampon Gay FuckingQueers

>>149838835
Terry Bradshaw would bootyblast all of those shit QBs

>>149838665
No one wants to listen to me talk about my shit team in the off-season.

>>149838522
https://www.kerrybyrne.com/2022/02/04/january-2005-the-prophetic-brady-is-the-best-story-that-shocked-the-football-world/
https://x.com/TomBradyDaily/status/1719829481941090342
Brady was regularly called the best QB in the league (including by John Madden) by 2004. The debate was mostly between him and Peyton Manning. Monster stats guy who chokes in the playoff with an elite offensive supporting cast vs very good stats guy with middling or lower third of the league offensive supporting cast with a better defense and better playoff performances.
How can we get a glimpse into the "feeling" of the time? Other than what I have already provided you, we can look at Madden. Madden ratings obviously don't mean much, but they offer a glimpse into the zeitgeist of the era. In other words exactly what you are referring to, how good was he "considered" not how good he actually was.
Recall here that if the title is Madden N, then it was released in the beginning of the N-1 season. So for example Madden 2005 was released in the beginning of the 2004 NFL season. With that in mind
>Madden 2005 (released in August of 2004, i.e. at the START of the 2004 regular season)
Peyton Manning - 97
Steve McNair - 96`
Tom Brady - 95
McNabb - 95
Favre - 94
>Madden 2006
Peyton Manning - 99
Daunte Culpepper - 98
Tom Brady - 97
McNabb - 97
Favre - 93
Vick - 92
>Madden 2007 (recall, this would have been published in August of 2006)
Peyton Manning - 99
Tom Brady - 98
>Madden 2008 (recall, this would have been published in August of 2007)
Tom Brady - 99
Peyton Manning - 99
Carson Palmer - 95
>Madden 2009
Tom Brady - 99
Peyton Manning - 99
What can we summise from this? Brady was considered an elite top 3 QB by the beginning of the 2004 season, and by 2005 he was considered a top 2 QB (in addition to an all-time great). What 2007 did is catapult him from all time great, to "probably the GOAT". Had he won the SB, he would have been considered the GOAT by the conclusion of the 2007 season.

>WIONS MANIA IS RUNNING WILD!!!

>>149839081
>madden ratings

I know brady faggots arent bright but this is a new low. just come out of the closet already, weve all known for years now.

>>149839043
The guy who was below 50% career completion percentage for the first decade of his career?

>>149839225
Yes

>>149839220
Do you reject the premise that Madden ratings offer a window into exactly what he was discussing, i.e. how good a player is ___considered___? That is of course not the same thing as how good they actually are.

>>149839081
Being even better than Vick in a Madden game is pretty impressive.

>>149838809
Imo most supermodels are beautiful, but not hot.

>>149838835
>adjusted
What's the algorithm?

>>149839289
No, tons of people complain about Madden ratings every year. It only provides a window into how a small group of people employed by EA considered a player.

>>149838833
In times past, for 98% of men who got the chance to see her she would be the hottest woman they will ever see in their lives. This woman, if you were ever lucky enough to see her, is supposed to kindle a fire in you to conquer her. But now that fire is quenched before it begins with endless virtual partners. In under 5 mins I can see dozens of naked women hotter than her getting fucked or otherwise. It's completely screwed up our reward system bros.

>>149839396
People complain about all rankings and ratings, idiot. No one is saying it's perfect (I'm talking about how they are CONSIDERED). It was a trick question since you can't deny the premise. It is a literal ranking by people that is in itself based on the feeling of the time. Now just accept you lost.

>>149839518
jordon love confirmed on par with richardson, green gay is fucked

>>149839375
I can explain it to you.
Suppose we have a given year, say 1996. Now look at the two surrounding years, 1995, 1996, 1997. Look at what the average QB stats were, and normalize it. i.e. in this case set the mean to 100, and a standard deviation to 15.
Suppose the average passer rating for those 3 years was 79.5. The raw passer ratings exist along a distribution for those 3 years. In our new era adjusted passer rating, RATE+, 79.5 is set to 100 (average for that 'era'), and a rating of 95 might be higher than 90% of QBs in those 3 years, which would translate to a RATE+ of 120.
Therefore a QB with a RATE+ of 120, had an elite passer rating higher than 90% of his contemporaries of that era. Whilst a raw passer rating of 95 doesn't tell you that much when attempting to compare players across different eras.

>>149839478
whores have existed as long as there has been wealth

>>149839619
Yes but not to this extent. Any teen can see in an hour more naked 10/10s than all his ancestors did combined in their entire lives.
Go Bengals btw

>>149839653
and this is good

this bussy is good

>>149839653
>Go Bengals btw
is shemar playing this year

>>149839359
Agreed. Adriana Lima is both, though.

>>149839653
built for public thoroughfare, the elders have been warning us about these women for thousands of years and we still don't listen

>>149839685
It obviously is not a good thing. Fries your brain and your reward system. Sucks a certain pool of motivation out of you

>>149839653
So true. It's terrible! Absolutely terrible.

>>149838665
im a bucs fan but i don't really gaf, i don't think any of us do, it's either a true argument between brady and mahomes fanbois or more likely one side is trolling the other or both are trolling each other

>>149839518
The ratings aren't a poll of the general public, you imbecile. They're the opinions of a small group of people employed by EA. It only shows how they're "considered" by that small group.

Beauty is Justin Herbert's offense, hotness in Josh Allen's offense.

>>149840105
And you think their ratings are just arbitrary and based on what Jenny from accounting thinks? If you don't like that, just take the rest of what I gave you and admit you're wrong.
Here's more
https://www.profootballhof.com/news/2005/02/news-top-20-passers/
Brady had the 7th highest passer rating of all time by the end of the 2004 season
Here is a football forum from 2005
https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/2006-consensus-qb-rankings.218039/
Almost all have Brady as a top 3-4 QB (aligning with what the Madden Ratings have).
Conclusion is the same

>>149840236
You said it was a reflection of how the players were considered at the time and I explained to you that it was just a reflection of how a small group of people considered them, which is not the same thing. Nothing else you're saying here is relevant to that.

>>149840317
Yes and the AP voting is just a reflection of what the AP voters think, right? No relationship to how the general public or the players/coaches themselves think, right? kek double digit IQ monkey

>>149840143
Justin Herbert has sex, Joe Burrow makes love, and Josh Allen fucks desu

>>149836112 (OP)
Mark was based. Portnoy is a Jew faggot

>>149839072
I post about shit teams during the off-season just to try and spark some conversation about them.

>>149840374
TLaw does all that in the real life bedroom instead of the football field

Mahomes gets detained and executed by ICE

Hurts becomes a bus driver in Houston

>>149839072
I will listen. Get it off your chest big guy.

Ayo dis dood got a paper route XD

>>149840912
>>149840524
My shit team will surprise people by being more competitive then you think. If calamari is a top 15qb all season my berds have a outside shot at the playoffs and are frisky enough to upset someone.

>tfw randomly optimistic that the season will end up going well

I remember my uncle's gf telling him that she wishes that he would even dare to hit her because she would destroy him, then he smacked the fuck out of her and she broke down and started crying and didn't do anything. The point is, don't fall for offseason hype.

>>149841055
Kek

>>149841060

>>149841107
I should have said my uncle is Big Ben but then you would have thought I was joking

>>149841010
It's gotta be the last year for Murray right? Last year was as good as any to win the division and he let it slip through his fingertips

>>149841010
Seems like an offense that will surprise a lot of people as long as Harrison Jr. takes a step forward, especially when it comes to contested catch rate. He's such a big athletic guy it was weird seeing that % so low, but he was just a rookie.

>>149841140
Yeah contractually this is Kylers last year to prove he belongs. His dead cap hit becomes more manageable after this season. If he shits the bed again I expect the cards to cut him.

>>149841176
With Kyler on the chopping block and Stafford in his twilight, Purdy might soon be the most tenured QB in the division

>>149841168
IMO it's gonna be the defense that shocks people. Cards were ranked 15-18 last year playing a bunch of practice squad guys on the LOS. The secondary is alot better than most people would think and with all the upgrades +getting players back healthy on the D-Line this has the potential to be a sneaky good defense.

>>149841140
He's probably gonna after this season, but what's going to be annoying is that the media is going to pick a bad team and then try to force the narrative that said bad team should take him just to make things convenient for the Cardinals.

>>149840907
His smile and optimism wanes a little more every year lol
Gets this nigga off the cursed ass Bills already

>>149840907
>it's been 8 years
This seems crazy to me. I could have sworn he was a rookie like 4 years ago.

>>149840907
i am 100% sure that Josh Allen is at least bi curious....watch his canter when he walks close to a big, muscular black man...the way he protrudes his lower hips means his lower rectal muscles are beginning to relax, a common occurrence during anal stimulation

>3 of the unanimous top 4 QBs are ringless
has this ever happened before

>>149841306
Two of them play for the Bills and Bengals, two dimeless franchises that will never win anything.

>>149841306
80s
Montana 4
Marino 0
Elway 0
Fouts 0

>>149841306
Early 90's, Young, Marino, Kelly, Elway were all ringless, and just Montana and Aikman had rings.

Penis Jr.

>>149841529
there it is

>>149838147
Damn $5, that is expensive.

>>149841529
Really dude? Grow up!

Most great QBs end up joining a different team in the tail end of their career

Where will Mahomes end up?

>>149839712
Are nude models considered supermodels? If so there are plenty that are far hotter/more-beautiful than the standard anorexic runway models

>>149841646
I'm guessing they will have learned the Pats' and Colts' lesson, and won't let their GOAT-tier QB leave unless they want to.

>>149841646
Cardinals, Dolphins or Raiders. Maybe the Bears.

>>149841709
The Colts did the right thing with going from Peyton to Luck. They knew they had him because of the pick they had coming off of Peyton’s neck surgery season. Where they screwed up was never investing in protecting their great new QB, which led to his untimely retirement. It was good for both of them. Peyton got to go to a team that was ready to win and the Colts got to (presumably) restart their 15 year elite QB window.

>>149841334
>>149841338
A lot of this speaks to the dominance of the NFC from the mid 80s until the Broncos finally won in 97. It was 13 straight years of the NFC dominating the SB.

>>149840784
Dak is a bottom
Mahomes is a vers
Allen is a top

If Nick Saban were to return to the NFL, who would he coach?

>>149841892
Arizona

>>149841892
Who gives a shit

>>149836963
DVOA is a proprietary meme stat
>>149838349
Ladd was a primary target, Worthy was not.

>>149841892
If I were him I would just keep doing the cushy pregame gig and sunset my coaching career. The guy is ungodly rich and has a dynasty that will never be touched. The counter argument would be that winning a SB might make him the best coach in history, but I think enough people would still separate his college and pro achievements and wouldn’t consider him the goat unless he won multiple owls.

>>149836252
Honestly this. Getting the ball out quick and identifying pressure pre snap are skills. Gayleb holds the ball forever and take sacks. Shadeur would purposely take sacks in college to keep his completion percentage up. Their lines weren’t that awful.

Derek Carr didn’t take a ton of sacks with the saints and their line was ass.

Today is Super Bowl champion and 2024 Defensive Rookie of the Year runner-up Quinyon Mitchell's birthday. Say something nice about him!

>>149841952
>Worthy was not
kwab

>>149836319
I’m not dumb enough to write him off yet but it’s concerning there’s a visible trend down. All the other ones ping pong up and down which I think shows team and schedule variation over the years. Or Mahomes is playing worse because he has shit receivers which is true, but also not getting fixed.

>>149842007
why is he black

>>149841646
Hard to say exactly, because a lot of these great QBs get to pick the best possible situation for themselves. It will be a team in the NFC that has all the pieces for a championship except the QB position. A team like the Vikings this offseason would be a prime candidate in the Mahomes lottery.

>>149837438
The trick is to not have an offense capable of scoring 17 points
>t steelersfag

>>149842074
that game wilson had against the bengals made me feel things I'd long forgotten

>>149837522
> UMMMMM ACKSHUALLY MIKE TOMLIN NEVER HAR HELP HE CARRIED THE GARBAGE STEELERS
Who says that about anytime prior to Ben’s injury in 2019? Tomlin gets shit for having Cowhers team for his super bowl.


That said if they don’t make it to the divisional and win/play really well Tomlin needs to be out of there.

>>149838656
There's a difference between having bad WRs and having no WRs. Half his weapons were hurt in 2024.

>>149838586
Why do you keep making this about Brady, his stats were mediocre by his own era's standards. Mahomes stat mogs EVERYONE from all eras. Mahomes is competing with elite QBs like Peyton and Marino in their 20s.

>>149842102
tomlin should have left alongside colbert for a new era, instead of him keeping himself around with a new gm
game has passed him by

>>149837713
>8-3 record this decade
>36-27 overall
Dude you’ve been having good takes and now you’re regressing again

>>149842139
He's stopped taking his medication. Hopefully someone can convince him that they're good for him

>>149842025
Yeah, I'm not writing him off at all. These QB graphs are up and down because QB stats are a lot more dependent on the team and scheme than in say Basketball. LeBron any given year for 20 years was going to give you 27/7/7 with a 27 PER etc. Despite that, QB stats being more team dependent than in superstar-driven basketball, we know that some QBs are better than others. Stats usually capture this because on average situations average out, but sometimes they don't.
Brady didn't suddenly become worse in 2013 or 2019. Likewise Mahomes (imo) hasn't become worse in 2023 and 2024. It's just that his supporting cast has diminished from best-in-the-league to below league average (with Kelce declining).

>>149838370
>>149838396
>>149840143
Herbert has fans on here? He has 0 playoff wins after 5 seasons.
>>149839081
>Brady was regularly called the best
Yet he won 0 MVPs or First-Team All-Pros in his 20s and his passer rating was never top 5. Anon just stop.

>>149841952
>Ladd was a primary target, Worthy was not.
So you're saying Worthy wasn't good enough for the offense to run through him?
>>149841923
Interesting pick. Would he keep Murray or want another QB?
>>149841934
Don't be so mean, anon.
>>149841954
Yeah but IF he did? Who you got?
I personally could see him going to Atlanta because its close to his lake house and I could see Morris getting c& if they fail to get to the playoffs again.

>>149842189

>>149841709
He'll be a Viking sure enough.

>>149842189
don't @ me oss

>>149842204
>>149842019
>So you're saying Worthy wasn't good enough for the offense to run through him?
Rodgers sat on the bench for multiple seasons since Brett Farve was on the team. Had he been drafted to any other franchise he would have been good enough to start. Same applies to Ladd who was drafted to a team that was rebuilding after my Chiefs bootyblast them into oblivion. He didn't have as much competition as the Chiefs out the gate and if it wasn't for injuries he probably wouldn't have half as much targets.

>>149842189
Dude fucking John Elway has been called a top 5 QB of all time, and was surely considered the best QB by some during his time despite him practically never having even top 10 stats.
I just showed you several instances of Brady being called the best QB. And then followed that up with more evidence of him being a consensus top 2-4 QB (depending on the year from 2003-2006). You know how Burrow has 0 all pros, 2 pro bowls, and yet is considered universally a top 3-4 QB? So too did Brady have 1 all pro, 3 pro bowls, (and 2 SB MVPs, and 2 top 3 MVP finishes) before 2007, and was considered a top 2-4 QB (again depending on the year in that range). You can keep repeating your nonsense but it is simply wrong.

>>149840907
blud's hairline is getting sus.

>>149841219
>His smile and optimism wanes a little more every year
kek

>>149842281
No no, Worthy was on the field, your analogy doesn't work.

>>149842204
I think you have to look at who is most likely to be fired this year. Morris, Schotty, McDaniel are the three HCs of the franchises I think he’d be most interested in. I don’t hate him to the Cowboys honestly. He’s had a ton of experience with keeping boosters and the academic board from meddling with the team that he could be one of the few personalities that Jerry would love to hire for the cult of personality while also being able to keep Jerry out of the locker room.

>>149842303
the autist does not respond well to legitimate arguments. you should spam some webm's at him, or some classics like this pic. he really hates that

>>149842349
>McDaniel
would nick really want to go back to the dolphins? tua could be a selling point but if miami have a season bad enough to get mcdaniel fired, it'll probably be because tua went fully veggie mid season

>>149842303
>You know how Burrow has 0 all pros, 2 pro bowls, and yet is considered universally a top 3-4 QB?
I'll use your own argument against you. Burrow was never considered the best since he played in the same era as Mahomes. I think what you meant to say was Brady was considered by some to be a top 5 QB similar to how people see Burrow, Allen, and Lamar. Brady and Burrow never won an MVP in their 20s since they weren't really the best.

Mahomes has the highest DSA (diaper shitting average) and CPG (cuckolding per game) we have seen of any quarterback before age 29

>>149842049
True. You just reminded me how loaded the Vikings roster is

>>149842349
I've thought about this too. He's probably one of a few coaches that Jerrah couldn't push around.
>>149842381
It looks to be a QB-heavy draft and if that happened, I imagine Miami would be picking at least in the top half.
>would nick really want to go back to the dolphins?
I don't think there's any ill will there, Saban and his wife had a great relationship with ownership back then.

>>149842038
God left him in the oven a bit too long

>>149842449
i think he needed more time to bake, honestly.

>>149842420
Should Mahomes release the cuck lists?

>>149842384
>considered by some to be a top 5 QB
You're slimey with your words. Like a rat. A weasel. There is an important distinction between "some" and "most". Specially when the reality is closer to "all". You obviously knew this but chose to use that word anyway.
Addressing your point, there is an important distinction. Mahomes looms larger over the current NFL than any QB did in that era (and that's partly because Brady and Peyton are better than Burrow, Lamar, and Allen, i.e. it was more top-heavy then). Peyton had the monster stats, Brady had the rings and playoff performances. Brady was not universally regarded as the best QB prior to 07. He was a consensus elite QB, with a well-sized portion — though not majority — considering him the best.

>>149842486
no, some secrets are best left in the closet, wouldn't want to hurt innocent folk afterall

>>149842486
If Sasha was a virgin, she'd be a much better partner for Mahomes. Britney sounds like she's 95 IQ max. Sasha is at least 110. Mahomes is probably like 110-120 as well.

>>149842281
All we hear in these threads over and over is that all the chiefs offensive weapons were either on the IR or irreparably hobbled, and that they have WR depth but no alphas, a bunch of WR2s. If he was good he'd be WR1 when on the field, kwab.

>>149842522
i always thought it was weird following a porn star, i just jerked it to the vids and forgot they existed the moment i'm done

>the same exact images posted in every thread, with no comment and no one asking for them
>the same exact debate with the same exact arguments, even the same exact sentences, over and over
Just make a Brady-vs-Mahomes debate general and leave us alone

>>149842549
She apparently became a twitch streamer with a following at some point. I guess she’s interesting enough for some people to watch her talk and play video games.

>>149842303
>>149842374
>>149842500
Brady in his 20s is Jalen Hurts. Let's pretend Jalen went on to win 2 more rings. People would praise him for it but everyone would know the rings were a team effort and that he's not better than Allen, Burrow, Lamar, or Mahomes.

Now if at age 30 Randy Moss joins the Eagles and Jalen throws for 50 TDs and wins league MVP our collective perception of him would change. We would no longer think of him as a roster baby. Brady and Jalen didn't win an MVP in their 20s and weren't considered the best QBs, they were just in the best system.

>>149842572
she probably has enough paypigs to keep the flow coming in

>>149842581
but would you suck a log of shit out of his asshole?

>>149842500
>it was more top-heavy then
It was more top heavy (as in that era had more all time greats), but the average QB was pretty shitty back then.
Also, didn't a store clerk get off his couch and win MVP (Kurt Warner). Shows you how bad the competition was. That would never happen in today's game.

>>149836143

>>149842522
lol

>>149842595
I don't share this fetish. Sorry.

>>149842500
>Mahomes looms larger over the current NFL than any QB did in that era
I liked reading this so much I will post it again.
>Mahomes looms larger over the current NFL than any QB did in that era

>>149842774
he IS large

>>149842563
Like I said, I don't start these debates, I just win them. If I had it my way we would never mention Brady and Mahomes in the same post.
Mahomes is competing with Petyon who averaged 4k yards in his 20s, not Brady who only averaged 3,500 yards. Not sure why the Brady anon keeps inserting him into the topic. He's not invited, only elite QBs qualify.

>>149842716
What's your reaction to Dave Portnoy joining FS1?

My Rammies :P

>>149842486
Ayo isn't Spacey a nonce? Lol

Go Falcons btw

>>149842791
Choofs Strength & Conditioning staff in shambles

>>149842791
Based Kietz. Got fired from his radio gig for calling out Andy Reid for not disciplining his players and being a terrible father.
>"Andy Reid does not have a great record of fixing players. He doesn’t. Discipline is not his thing. It did not work out particularly well in his family life, and that needs to be added to this, as we’re talking about the Chiefs. He wasn’t real great at that either. He’s had a lot of things go bad on him, family and players."

>>149842854
We MUST stand with Israel's right to defend itself.

>>149842581
I, the main person that has btfod you consistently, don't think this is a terrible comparison through their first 2 SB appearances. Hurts right now entering 2025, is probably viewed ~to Brady entering the the 2004 season (emphasis on entering).
Now if you meant to say Hurts entering 2025 to compare him with Brady entering 2005, 2006, or 2007, then no that's clearly wrong as I have showed.

*makes nonwhites seethe uncontrollably*

>>149842998
Fucking lol Britt Reid actually got his prison sentence commuted by the state governor a while back. I guess taking pills and crashing into people isn't a big deal. Helps to have friends in high places. "And justice for all" whatever happened there....

>BREAKING: The $50M rape lawsuit filed against Shannon Sharpe has officially been settled and dismissed with prejudice

>"Both sides acknowledge a long-term consensual and tumultuous relationship. After protracted and respectful negotiations, I'm pleased to announce that we have reached a mutually agreed-upon resolution. All matters have now been addressed satisfactorily, and the matter is closed. The lawsuit will thus be dismissed with prejudice," the accuser's attorney Tony Buzbee said in a statement.

>This settlement could lead to Sharpe's return to ESPN after he stepped down in late April.

>>149843309
Skeeyup, i'm coming home

>>149842581
If Moss joins the Eagles when Jalen turns 30, he’d have to be what? 50 some years old? I don’t know, man. I don’t see it.

>>149843309
>settled
>dismissed
I'm not a law expert but I'm pretty sure those are two mutually exclusive things. Parties settle, a judge dismisses. If a case is settled a judge isn't involved.

>>149843309
>Tony Buzbee

>>149843309
>This settlement could lead to Sharpe's return to ESPN

Top delusion. ESPN and FS1 ain't touching him. Doesn't matter that the case was dismissed he's a certified weirdo who live streamed himself having sex. Fucking embarrassment

>>149843408
You have to file a closure of the suit with the court that the judge signs off on. As part of the settlement the parties agree that it can’t be tried again, which means it is dismissed with prejudice. It’s rare, but a judge can decide that the case can remain open to reexamination in the future.

>>149843052
I'll give you 07, but nothing prior to that. The perception of Brady was that he was a clutch roster baby similar to Jalen. One semi decent season in 05 didn't change the perception of him. If anything, he graduated from being Jalen to Purdy. It wasn't until 07 that people saw him as elite.
>>149843309
How much did she extort from him? 10M or 5M?

>>149843411
The money is the issue here. You might think he’s a weirdo, but he’s about to sell his podcast’s exclusivity for an expected $100m rights deal. He has an audience which is something espn can’t get enough of right now.

>>149843450
You just say things. How does your assertion that Brady was not seen as elite until 2007 square with everything presented here>>149839081 (the magazine, article, video, Madden Ratings, football forum circa 2005)? Answer this instead of avoiding for once.

>>149843440
Cool, thanks

>>149843309
>>149843411
>Top delusion. ESPN and FS1 ain't touching him
This but unironically. Dan Le Batard said he thinks ESPN is done with Shannon. He's usually right about sports related drama. ESPN lost millions of subscribers and are struggling. Sharpe has too much control over his brand so they can leech off his podcast success like they are with Pat.

>>149843450
They dated between 2023 and 2025, so let's pretend 365 days. The average load has between 20-300 million sperm cells. Assuming they had sex at least once a week, she extorted, at a minimum, 10 billion spunk from Unc

>>149843495
Just for reference, obviously this is not the end all be all, but Hurts is rated as 87 in Madden 2026, 6th in the league. Brady from 2004 onwards was 3rd or 2nd,, with 1st in 07 and 08. This is relevant because we are talking about perception, not actual ability.

>>149843309
I WANT MY RESTITUTIONS

>>149843486
>H-HE HAS AN AUDIENCE!!

Awesome he's still a fucking weirdo who isn't worth the drama. They've got plenty of on air talent and probably gave Peter Schrager a huge bag when they brought him on board. I'd be surprised if Sharpe ever came back. Plenty of former players out there they can hire to be le loud mouth negro

>>149842791
>football analyst doesn't understand a throwing position
that's why hes an MLB offspring and not an NFL one

>>149843582
Its aimed at the bottom 30-40% of Americans it's not really aimed at a first world tier crowd

>>149843495
If Jalen had 3 rings in this analogy he too would also have a higher public perception despite his lackluster regular season stats.
> (the magazine, article, video, Madden Ratings, football forum circa 2005)? Answer this instead of avoiding for once.
I can find articles where Jalen Hurts is ranked in the top 5, your argument is silly. Jalen and Brady didn't win MVP or First-Team All-Pros and that's the only thing that matters. Also, you didn't listen to what I said. One or two good seasons in 05 or 06 didn't change the perception of him being a roster baby. He needed the breakout 07 season to change our mind, Jalen would as well.

>>149842671
Rules have smoothed over the peaks and valleys too. Qb unfriendly rules generally help mid-tier shitters out the most and keep clowns from looking as bad. Great ones have their stats inflated as a result sure but the degree isn't as great

>>149843582
You either acquire him or compete against him. Not saying I know which choice is correct, but he’s been wildly successful and will remain so.

>>149843582
>and probably gave Peter Schrager a huge bag
that'll put butts in seats

>>149843660
Friendly rules

>>149843690
You don't like Schrager? I think he's got good takes and is obviously well connected. I'd rather listen to him talk ball then Sharpe

>>149843495
>Brady was Second-Team All-Pro in 2005.
>Jalen was Second-Team All-Pro in 2022.
They had good seasons and were in the MVP discussion, but couldn't quite reach the plateau of "best QB". It wasn't until Brady got Moss in his 30s that he had that breakout season that changed our opinion of him. Be honest, you weren't old enough to remember the 90s-00s. I was dealing pokemon cards, smuggling bootleg anime VHS tapes, and getting pussy while you were in your cradle.

for me its 7 > 3

>>149843801
>I was dealing pokemon cards, smuggling bootleg anime VHS tapes, and getting pussy while you were in your cradle.

>>149843804
You're right, Mahomes 7 AFC championships is superior to Brady only winning 3 AFC championships.

>>149843862
no I was thinking of a different 7 > 3

>>149843862
Brady actually won 10 conference championships and went to 8 in a row.

>>149843801
Really hit post on this one?

>>149843927
He didn't in his 20s though. He only won 3 AFCCGs in his 20s.

Mahomes went to 7 of them and has a 100% rate of making it to championship rounds in his 20s.

>>149843735
he's connected, but I've seen him too much over the years with your bill simmons's and your pat mcafee's that I see him as a phony cornball, but from a ratings perspective I can't imagine he's a draw like Shannon ( who I think sucks for the record)

>Brando Aiyuk, Ricky Pearsall, Malik Mustache among others on the PUP list

Ninerbros...

>>149843955
>in his 20s

>>149843660
>>149843722
It's not just rules. The modern QB is asked to throw more which makes them more talented. The rule changes in the NBA have fuck all to do with their ability to shoot 3s better than players in the 80s. They are just more talented.

>>149843949
It's all real. I also was the local Smash Bros champ in my area. Unironically nevah lost.

I hadn't played Smash Bros in decades and randomly played some college students and easily beat them despite not even knowing how to hold controllers any more. Probably had 4k hours in that game in my youth.

>>149843626
No one outside of Philly has ever called Hurts the best QB in the game. Hurts is not universally regarded a top 2-5 QB in the game. Once more you're a slimy rat piece of shit.
Let's compare Brady and Hurts through the time frames in question. By 2005 or 2006
Brady
>3x pro bowler
>1x all pro
>1x led the league in TDs
>1x led the league in yards
>3 SB wins
>2 SB MVPs
>2 top 3 MVP finishes (18 total votes)
>113 ANY/A+
Hurts
>2x pro bowler
>1x all pro
>0x led the league in TDs
>0x led the league in yards
>1 SB win
>1 SB MVP
>1 top 3 MVP finish (1 total vote)
>107 ANY/A+
And this is in the context of Hurts having had multiple ALL-PROS (Brown, Barkely) at skill positions, while Brady only had 1 pro-bowl WR (2001 Troy Brown) and 1 pro-bowl RB (Dillon 2004), nevermind all-pros.
Clearly Brady had a far superior resume, ergo he also had a superior perception. It's that simple.
The more apt comparison would be Burrow if he had won 2-3 rings and an extra pro bowl. Though in this case it's more like public perception of Burrow is ahead of
Burrow
>3x PB
>0x all pro
>1x led the league in yards
>1x led the league in TDs
>3 SB wins
>2 SB MVPs
>0 top 3 finishes (0 total votes)
>109 ANY/A+
(also in the context of Burrow having far superior offensive weapons, including multiple time all-pro Chase). In this hypothetical scenario, plenty of people would be calling Burrow the #1 QB in the league.
The person >>149842374 was correct. You don't respond well to arguments. Just repeat baseless shit over and over again, and my autism demands I respond with well articulated arguments.

>>149844113
Oh and if Burrow had an extra all pro too.

my skid marks are three days old anyways go chiefs

>>149844044
If we're comparing Jayden Daniels to Mac Jones is it wiser to compare ALL of Mac's seasons to Jayden, or would it be better to see what both did at similar stages of their career? Use your head anon. If you're going to compare Mahomes and Brady we should compare them at similar ages.

>>149843801
kek

>>149844158
The problem here is that people don't really dispute that Mahomes is on-pace or slightly ahead of Brady through 7 seasons. What people argue is that Mahomes is better than Brady ever was. And that's what is clearly untrue and being refuted. (or other ridiculous claims like Brady was not seen as an elite QB until 2007).

>>149844158
Strange comparison given how Daniels mogs Maccy regardless of which way you do it

Doo Doo Sanders is going to light up the Chiefs for the next 20 years

>>149844113
>No one outside of Philly has ever called Hurts the best QB in the game.
You didn't pay attention to what I said. I said IF Jalen had 3 rings there would be a fringe of people calling him the best, but people who actually watch ball know he's not as good as his peers such as Burrow, Allen, etc...
>The more apt comparison would be Burrow if he had won 2-3 rings and an extra pro bowl.
LOL you're out of your mind. If Burrow had 3 rings we would be calling him Mahomes. Burrow's stats are elite. Brady not so much at that age. Look at picrel, he was never top 5 in passing yards.

>>149844268
>he was never top 5 in passer rating*.

>>149844033
What the fuck is wrong with Ricky? Did he get shot again?

>>149844314
sometimes white boy summer goes too hard

>>149844320
fixed

>>149844268
>If Burrow had 3 rings we would be calling him Mahomes
Can you at least TRY to know ball?

>>149844320
>>149844375
>Brady was demonstrably growing by his 7th season
>Mahomes is demonstrably regressing by his 7th season
TH--THIS DOESN'T COUNT! DELETE THIS!

>>149844320
Brady is 30 in your pic. This is what their stats looked like at age 29.

But congrats, Brady finally beat Mahomes in one head to head season. Only problem, Mahomes was going for 3peats at this age. Brady not so much
>Mahomes Won Superbowl
>Mahomes Won Superbowl
>Mahomes Lost Superbowl
>Brady Lost Divisional
>Brady Lost AFCCG
>Brady Lost Superbowl
As Mahomes ages his rate of winning owls is increasing, Brady was shrinking.

Mahomes has never beaten Doo Doo Sanders

>>149844375
>>149844392
>5th season Mahomes Won Superbowl
>6th season Mahomes Won Superbowl
>7th season Mahomes Lost Superbowl
>5th season Brady Lost Divisional
>6th season Brady Lost AFCCG
>7th season Brady Lost Superbowl
You tell me who is getting better at this age?

>>149844400
Based trip dubs of truth

>>149844426
probably the guy that threw 4800 yards, 50 TDs and a passer rating of 117.2 over the guy that couldnt even surpass 4000 yards and 30 TDs.

>Mahomes is winning rings and his main complaint is why aren't you statmogging people AND winning rings!
He's held to absurd standards.

>>149840907
>you know the sound. the sound you hear in the dead of night. its a whisper now, barely perceptible, but perceptible nonetheless. soon enough it will be a roaring, inescapable scream, an agonizing, thrashing, all consuming sound every minute of every day. a familiar sound, one you've heard in years past, but has quieted of late, in this period of faux-uncertain respite. for now it, mercifully, remains a whisper, only intruding in the dead of January nights, when the buffalo snow and winds howl outside and there is naught else awake.

>"you wasted him"

>>149844449
I'll take the guy whose rate of making it to Superbowls is approaching 100% as he ages. Not Brady who got blown out in the 1st round of the playoffs.

None of us even know the names of the guys who were beating Brady's ass in the playoffs.

I've avoided /nfl/ this offseason because last off season was just filler babble, seems I didn't miss much. have these 2 retards been doing this muttholmes vs brady shit the whole 6 months?

lol shitter sanders

>>149844520

>>149844268
I literally just showed you their stats side by side
Here they are again (and corrected)
>ANY/A+
Brady 2001-2005: 110
Burrow 2020-2024: 109
>passer rating +
Brady 2001-2005: 111
Burrow 2020-2024: 116
>EPA/play
Brady 2001-2005: 0.125
Burrow 2020-2024: 0.157
Brady's stats are in fact comparable to Burrow through those first 5 seasons. Now on that add an extra all-pro, extra pro-bowl, 3 SBs, and 2 SB MVPs, all while having far less offensive support.

>>149844476
Only one anon is doing GOAT debates. I said Brady is the GOAT. I only argue Mahomes has the best start to a career.

Name a single QB in my picrel with a better resume at this age. What's that, you can't. End of discussion. Tell the Brady fan boy the discussion is over.

>>149844528
What are you smoking. Brady's passer rating was 87, Burrows was 101.

>>149844528
>Brady 2001-2005: 111
>Burrow 2020-2024: 116
Men lie, women lie, but numbers don't.

>>149844582
87 passer rating when the average passer rating was 80 is different than an 87 passer rating when the average passer rating is 92.

>>149844033
Window's closed, Nanners

>>149844611
>>149844528
Era adjusted stats are childish. That's like saying if you took NBA players from the 50s and let them play in the modern NBA their 3 point rate would magically be higher. It wouldn't, the modern NBA player is more skilled and athletic. Mahomes is a Steph Curry or Dan Marino, his stats are great regardless of his era. Ask the kiwi, even he agrees with me.

>>149844653
If you dropped Steph Curry into the 90s against the Pistons he'd get broken in half

rate this bussy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv2GRTKBkr8

Pernachads...it's out!

>>149844724
He's a Chiefs hater. I cant' take him seriously.

>>149844747
>sports fan does not like division rival
wow I am shocked

>>149844747
so he's based. cus chiefs are massive faggots.

>>149844526
Is shedeur sanders good?

>>149844767
we may just find out this season

>>149838782
Giselle is meh by model standards but was hot by general population. Brittany is 6/10 just because she manages to not be fat and 70% of adult women in the US are fat. He face is busted though.

>>149844765
>t.

>>149844767
lol no imagine Kyler Murray without the arm strength or wheels. That's who Doo Doo Sanders is

>>149844653
Yeah Cousins is better than Peyton Manning, Joe Montana, Dan Maino, Steve Young, Brett Favre I know I know etc.

>>149844764
Brady and his spygate/deflategate stole valor from multiple franchises yet here they are sucking him off. I assumed Mahomes would mindfuck them into submission as well, but looks like they need more discipline.

>>149844767
he's got career backup written all over him

>>149844777
i see the jeet/chicano hybrid is upset.

>>149844520
>Shedeur Sanders had his jersey number retired at Colorado this year, and people are saying it’s because of nepotism, because of his father, and it’s not
>It’s because he went 13-12 over his career, and he 𝘢lmost won the Alamo Bowl
>Definitely not nepotism, right?

>>149844798
No, I don't need tech support, Buramdat

>>149844815
-t. jeet/chiano hybrid

>>149844824
>can't .t properly
Yeah, you're definitely an Indian alright

>>149843203
GOOD MORNINGS SIRS!

FIXED

>>149844777
DUBS-TRIPS JUST ANALLY ANNIHILATED ALL DENVER JEETCO FANS HOLY FUCK

>>149844836
>t. properly
>be dumbfuck jeet/chicano hybrid (you)
>tell other's they don't know how to -t.
it's pottery, lol

>>149844476
>muttholmes vs brady shit
Quit fenceshitting, it's the Pattyschizo causing 100% of this kerfuffle literally every time the Eagles or Tom Brady are mentioned

>>149844896

>>149844896
epic memesteal, saar

>Sharpe will be paying an amount that likely exceeds $10 million.
How is Mike Florio allowed to pass off fan fiction as reality? Why hasn't he been sued, fired, or beaten?

>>149844918
its not just the eagles or brady, any QB other than mahomes and he tries to force mahomes into the conversation

>>149841596
We didn't know how good we had it

>>149844900
Dubs confirms dub-trips confirming
>>149844914
You already lost the argument but
>other's
lrn2grammar, Bukhar.
>>149844896
>furry city jeets fans
>white
kek
>chorgers "fan" smiling about anything

>>149844928
Stroud isn't better than Mayfield, Goff, or Purdy. He just got his OC fucking fired lmao.
I also doubt he's better than McCarthy but we'll see.

>>149844943
GOOD MORNING SAAR REDEEM THE GRAMMAR WE ARE REDDIT SAAR

>>149844943
>chorgers "fan" smiling about anything
That facial expression is from him having anal sex. It's from a doujin I think.

>>149844941
>we x 2

>>149844653
The modern NBA player can't play half a season without developing chronic pussy-itis, demands a trade if they don't have at least two all-star teammates, is constantly looking for phantom fouls and just rolls up into a ball and cries if anyone actually fouls them, and is basically at the mercy of 3 point RNJesus on any given night because they don't even fucking know how to do anything else. Do not speak to me of the modern NBA

>>149844943
>>chorgers "fan" smiling about anything

Problem?

>>149845001
>NBA players have generational wealth so don't have to do whatever their owners tell them.
Agreed.

>>149844954
Guess again, Bodhisattva
>>149844976
Even sex can't bring a smile to them
>>149845012
See, they gotta use a fake, molded-on plastic one, kinda like they're ugly stadium kek, oh wait, its not even theirs!

An unforseen consequence of the mass deportations is uber eats takes forever now lol

>>149844928
Smack dab in the middle, baby

>>149845033
you are not white, so there is no point in guessing, deshita. back to redit.

>>149845043
Another Indian larping as a woman larping as a robot larping as a raiders fan

>>149845022
imagine clapping like a seal for the enshittification of sports
no, being good a putting a ball in a hoop does not justify making a bazillion dollars
they have the platform because the owners, not the other way around

>>149845022
>We'll pay you $250,000,000 to play competitive basketball without being a pussy
>Nah, I don't really feel like it *takes your money*

>>149845064
i even tipped 17 percent and am still waiting for some drivegoy to pick it up

>>149845061
Ah, so, you're giving up, Jamshed?
>>149845083
No I won't buy you a google play card

yes you will

>>149845069
Imagine being a shill for trust fund baby team owners. We don't watch the sport for their old crusty asses. We tune in for the athletes who on a whim could all quit and go to the European league, and the NBA would turn into a G-league that nobody watches.

>>149844896

>>149845104
That guy is pretty fit for a four eyes.

>>149845100
95% of the reason socker sucks ass is because the owners have so little power that the players can do whatever they want. Sports are unironically better the more power the owners have

>Rashee Rice expected 4 game suspension
So the league just doesn't want to compete. They refuse to allow the Chiefs to have weapons.

>>149845100
There is a balance, the NFL has the perfect balance, MLB is too far in the owners favor NBA too far in the players favor
there’s a reason nobody watches that other shit anymore

>>149845119
>Sports are unironically better the more power the owners have
This is what I thought watching the UFC. But look at how shitty the product became with time.

>>149845022
>just in for the money
>have no pride
>no work ethic
>don't give a fuck about about fans

Yeah man, mad respect to those guys for being lazy, selfish cunts who don't give a fuck as long they get theirs. I really admire people like that

>>149845104
there is something very strange about how the wealthy all wear Nike airforce shoes
they literally just throw them away after a month or so and get a new pair

>>149845134
>>149845119
The NBA went to shit because of the owners having too much power. If the players had their way they would play less games, which in turn would quadruple the ratings. NFL owners would make them play 40 games per season if it was possible which would water down the product.

UFC has maximum control, yet look at how shitty it has become. If athletes had more power they could go to other leagues, and the UFC would be forced to compete like how they used to when Pride and Strike Force existed.

How many games will micro penis Jr start for the falcons this season?

>>149845170
>retarded take
trip on bk

>>149845033
>its not even theirs!

IT'S A TIMESHARE STADIUM IT'S TOTALLY NORMAL LOTS OF TEAMS DO IT

>>149845152
>>149845175
Why are players doing load management? It's a response to the greedy owners forcing them to play 80 games. If the players were in control they would only play 40 games which would make every game matter. Even March Madness gets more ratings since it's a one and done format.

>>149845033
>that webm
LOL he tried to sucker punch him, then got son'd.

>>149845142
It was true under the pre-WME Zuffa era. Almost nothing beats owners that are smart and passionate about all the various aspects of the business. This changed when the Fertittas started to look to sell and the Reebok era started. It’s probably why the best political system would be a perfect monarch. The problem is the perfect monarch dies or retires and the next one up is a disaster, much like in sports ownership.

I'm convinced that the Eagles don't actually have that many fans on /sp/ and it's all just one retard who treats this place like it's Eagles Pravda

treat this bussy

>>149845222
UFC got worse because the owners got too much power. When they had to compete with Pride and Strike Force it was objectively a better product. Athletes used to be able to make money from sponsorships and had more contract freedom. UFC did the reebok deal and created slave labor contracts, so the athletes became trapped. They get paid minimum wage and rely on fight of the night bonuses.

>>149845224
This but with Patriots fans. There's no way Brady has this many fanboys.

make money from this bussy

I apologize to the >>149836144 Steelers AI >>149838853 slopper for doing this. If I knew it would result in the Brady fanboy posting a thousand stats I wouldn't have done it.

>>149845170
The NBA went to shit because they fully guaranteed every contract so all players have to do is try hard for one season, get some sucker to cough up a grossly overvalued deal that won't match their actual productivity and then coast until their next contract year.

Look at Kawhi, he's the King of this shit. He couldn't bring himself to play in SA any more but when he was auditioning for a new contract somewhere else suddenly he found the grit to persevere through an entire postseason (played 9 games his final year in SA but 60 in his contract year with Toronto). Ditched 2 teams he won titles with to go to LA instead, forced them to trade for Paul George (lol), ended every season by deciding he wasn't healthy enough to play (after consulting with his own doctors instead of the team doctors) and never played as many games as he did in Toronto....until his contract was expiring. Then, coincidentally, he was as healthy as he'd ever been in LA. And that sucker Ballmer coughed up another $200 million and Kawhi promptly missed half the next season and came back to "lead" the team to a first-round exit. But hey, he finally figured out how to finish the playoffs healthy: just lose in the first round and you don't have to play that many games. Totally worth that $400 mil Ballmer's choked up so far.

>>149845348
>all players have to do is try hard for one season, get some sucker to cough up a grossly overvalued deal that won't match their actual productivity
Your argument would have worked if you picked anyone but Kawhi. The stats and eyetest showed he's the closet thing to Michael Jordan when healthy. He carried his team to a ring and was one of the best players. He just has bad genetics and couldn't stay healthy.

>>149845224
>Eagles
I hate that those two Superbowls have forever linked that subhuman fanbase with my Chiefs.

Eagles fans behave like fatherless children and don't know how to conduct themselves as champions.

They are still crying about the refs and turf from the 2022 Superbowl, which is behavior you expect from poverty franchises like the Raiders.

Act like you've been there before. Be humble in victory AND defeat.

>>149845453
pot, kettle, etc.

Choofsisters…not like this

>>149845202
You faggots talk as if the NBA season was massively expanded beyond where it normally was at some point, but it's been 82 games since forever and somehow players were able to deal with it despite having worse nutrition, training, and medical tech available at the time.

Wilt played 80+ games nine times and had 2 more years of 79 games played

John Havlicek played 11 80+ game seasons

Jordan had 11 80+ game seasons and his last was at age 39

John Stockton has 16 seasons where he missed ZERO games

Tim Duncan's team was one of the pioneers of load management and he still played 6 seasons of 80+ games and was in the high 70's for most of the others

Curry has played 80 games 2 times
Tatum has played 80 games once
Embiid has never even played 70 games

These guys are playing the same schedule everyone always had and are getting WAY more rest than previous generations. So what's their fucking problem? You need more games off? Bitch, you're already taking them.

>>149845484
I've heard Swift singing. I need a pic of those feet to make a comparison

>>149845459
I feel bad for the Cowboys fans, I had no clue what type of savages they were dealing with.

>>149845484
simps need to be executed
robots will somewhat reset the market at least but not for another 20 years

>>149845327
lmao

>>149845384
Since he wormed his way out of San Antonio the 2 seasons where he played the most games were his contract years. Weird how his health always perks up right as he's negotiating a new contract

>>149845273
You are right that they had to run things more honestly when they had competition. Pride is the coolest defunct sports company in history imo. I think there was a 5+ year period of the UFC being at its peak when the athletes from the WEC, Strikeforce, and Pride were coming into the UFC, and it made for some really intriguing fights. Once they were fully absorbed I think you’re right.

>>149845497
NBA players sign contracts that give them generational wealth so they don't have to force themselves to play while injured. Tyrese Haliburton played while injured and it probably cost him hundreds of millions.

>>149841060
Based uncle

>>149845536
NTA but you realize that you're agreeing with his point that good players can phone it in and don't have to try as hard, right? When I watch a shit game, I don't feel butterflies in my stomach knowing that at least they're making WAY more money than players used to

>>149841060
Chiefs = Uncle
Broncos = Uncle's GF

Makes sense.

if the raidies season goes south ima finna Stan the steelies instead

>>149845665
BTW "Stan the steelies" is code for an actionable threat of violence against the Raider ownership

>>149845497
>>149845536
>>149845622
The UFC and NBA suck for similar reasons. When the UFC had to compete with Pride, WEC, and Strikeforce they put on a better product. Their revenue was driven by star power. The UFC and NBA went to shit once they signed long term network deals. Now the UFC doesn't have to worry about creating a new GSP or Anderson Silva, they will be paid regardless so they can churn out shitty fight cards. Same applies to the NBA and their multi billion network deals.

The players are sitting out games because the league and sports media is telling them that the regular season doesn't matter. ESPN and FS1 tells them that only rings matter in GOAT debates, so they focus on the playoffs and join super teams to chase after rings. If the NBA and UFC went back to the star driven business model, they would put in more effort. Blame the executives, not the players.

>>149836827
was napoleon kaufman a jew in black face?

>>149845811
I wish I could surprise my wife with him. Raiders fan btw.

>>149845825
he does look like he would suprise temujin
steelies stan btw

Did someone threaten to lynch the Tennessee Titans?

>>149845678
dont say that

>>149845864
I didn't know they were building a new stadium. These owners are FLEECING the tax payers.

>>149845517
WTF is going on with her boobs.

>>149845484
Footfags are weirdos. There's no difference between a a male or female's feet. Why don't they just fap to their own feet.

>>149845864
maybe it was just a pull rope

>>149845902
youre right that billion should be going to food stamps and WIC for blacks and their 15 children

>>149845995
>>149845753
>>149845517
>>149845050
>>149843655
>>149841689
>>149839890
>>149839712
Built for BBC (Big Bronco Cock)

>>149845484
$50 million and doesn't even have to get naked
what the fuck is wrong with simps?

>>149845484
Why is everyone so obsessed with feet now? Doesn't anyone have a normal fetish like thighhighs anymore?

>>149842854
My jew fatigue is hitting record highs

>>149846160
the third world has the internet now and are going through what the rest of the world went through 15-20 years ago
the terrifying thought is theres still like 600 million indians that dont have internet yet

>>149846160
lolno
enjoy a future of people begging to see feet, armpits, and spread bellybuttons

>>149846180
Armpits are actually an okay fetish though because they accentuate a woman's body lines and can kind of be used as a pussy. Bare feet have zero erotic value and even footjobs don't do much for me.

>>149845484
I believe approximately zero of these self-declared unofficial onlyfans incomes.

why does mahomes injure his receivers?

>>149846308
wants all the glory for himself. brady would never

>>149846281
its some kind of money laundering scheme for sure

Reminder that Temujin is an autistic 6 foot 215lbs latina Raiders fan living in California and my wife!

rams finna boutta lose da wildcard

>>149846476
imagine the putrid gas

HE'S FUCKING BACK

>>149846329
No but pey pey would and all he has is a couple single season records and losing to Russell Wilson to show for it.

>>149846721
Lol

>>149836691
Brian Westbrook

>>149846699
>He doesn't follow him on Instagram
c'mon anon

>And then you wake up

>>149844782
and there it is.

coward

>>149846948
>wake up
>the nightmare begins again

football is GAY

wake up this bussy

>>149846948
>>149847103
Lamar? Win a ring?
Nevermore

>>149836278
>Why do you hate Dave Portnoy.

Early life
Portnoy was born and raised in Swampscott, Massachusetts,[4] the son of Michael, a lawyer, and Linda, a high school teacher.[5] He is Jewish.[6][7]

>>149847212
I ask this genuinely. who cares

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54S_18vmS5c

Micah is undersized, CJ Stroud looks just as big.
Players shouldn't be friendly like this, Micah won't be able to go at him 100% if they're on the field since he'd be worried about hurting his friend.

>>149847227
If my friend was on the field, I'm going after him 110%

>>149847212
Okay, now I understand.
>>149847223
Live life longer and eventually you'll understand.

How to actually handle holdouts

>>149847238
brother its been 3 decades i dont think im gonna suddenly start hating the jews for no reason

>>149847250
Been 3 decades for me as well and I said the same thing as you. But in the last 3 years I now know what they are about.

>>149847223
Spotted the jeet.

>>149847212
>hi guise I'm a newfag!
Lel

>>149847210
"Nevermore" refers to something that did happen before but will not happen again. With Lamar it's more like "never was"

>>149847212

>>149844314
nigga is just made of glass, dude was already injured when he got shot so that just covered for the fact that the 9ers, yet again, drafted some dude who's always fuckin injured. They've literally swung and missed on every first rounder except Bosa and Aiyuk, anyone could have picked Bosa that's a consensus pick and Aiyuk has been actin like a straight bitch since getting paid. 49ers offense already looking like its barely gonna function.

Haha so fucking true

>>149847397

>>149847212
>>149847212
>>149847367
Nobody seems to want Dave Portnoy on FS1.

fuck the iggles

I'm tired of telling my gf to put more sausage in her red beans.

>>149839518
>rankings and ratings

Those are retarded.

>No I didn't lose
>I didn't have my WR 1, my WR 2, my RB, and my LT
>Go ahead and celebrate your fake ass dub, because at the end of the day, I'm me
>You said Jalen Hurts was godlike? Mods, order up.

Soon

>>149847585
Lol

>watamote: wtf is that slut talking about.jpg

>>149847397
>Saved from r slash kansascitychiefs.png

>>149847707
Close!

>>149847738
>least rings in the division

Lmfao

>>149845348
>Totally worth that $400 mil Ballmer's choked up so far.

Won't somebody please think of the bazillionair owners?!

>>149847760
Isn't the NFCE the only division where everyone has a ring?

>>149847760
Damn, you beat the fuck out of that anon.

>>149847760
That's probably why iggles fans behave like wild animals. It's the small dog complex.

>>149847212
>muh joos!!!1!
cringe

>>149847925
cringe
>>149847212
based

Oo
Ooooo
O
O
Oo
Ooo
O
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>>149847925
have you been living under rock, do you not know what's currently happening in the world

>>149847937
OOOOZEMPIC!

Left are the Bears
Right are the Pack
Down is Detroit
And Vikings lost their QB

Come playoffs:
Left are the Bears
Left are the Bears
Left are the Bears

>>149847974
Cool image

move
>>149847857
>>149847857
>>149847857

>>149847760
Cummanders have 0 rings actually.

>>149848027
We have seized the rings of Washington

>>149844033
looks like im drafting cmc again