Nerd pride edition

>Balance Dataslate:
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>Pre 10th Torrent:
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>10th Edition Rules:
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>How to make wargames terrain:
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>Secret Level Animation:
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>>Previous thread:
>>95869250

>Thread Question:
What's next for the T'au in terms of new models?

*blocks your path*

>TQ
The tau release will be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKwVFWwA_x8

Human Auxiliaries KT or Riptide variants in plastic

>>95874752 (OP)
>What's next for the T'au in terms of new models?
Some kind of Stealthsuit Kill Team that's more like the original suits from 3rd edition.

Hopefully even more auxiliaries too. Like one of those psyker polar bear pancakes.

>>95874752 (OP)
>What's next for the T'au in terms of new models?
Auxiliaries

Been playing Daemonhunters again and I've been thinking picrel the entire time.

>>95874778
grey knights beat you to the punch

I've been considering the idea of hiring a prostitute to play 40k with me.

>>95874752 (OP)
>What's next for the T'au in terms of new models?
Pancake bears or more kroot

>TQ
New Stealth Suits, Kroot HQ option.

>>95874784
Anon... I know, I'm playing the Grey Knights game.

>>95874812
Oh, I thought you meant the detachment or something.

>>95874820
That's fair, I should have specified Chaos Gate in my post.

>>95874752 (OP)
they desperately need a melee version of crisis suits

>>95874752 (OP)
>Nerd pride edition
After months and months of wondering, this prompts me to ask where is the nerd pride for thread creation?
Starting a new thread when the last one was still so high on the catalogue used to be deplored. Yesterday or the day before there were three /40kg/ running with the two older ones on pages 8 and 10. It's nice to see them active but even a few years ago a few of us took pride in waiting for a general to be started at the right time. The previous thread is currently on page 8. Too soon.
>filename
Is it premature because someone thinks they've got dead funny file names so they have to get in with the joke before someone else beats them to it?
>protip that filename is not as funny as op thinks it is
It's not like it's because this thread's thread question is up there with the greats. Sorry OP, but your thread question is kind of bland and Tapostropheau is a joke.)

Wait for page 10 wannabe thread starters. Have some pride.
>m40kgga.jpg

>>95874828
I disagree, but if there were to be such a thing it must be Farsight Enclaves exclusive.

working through this custodes combat patrol
post models

Fart Smelldar refresh coming soon,
I can feel it

>>95874828
Onager gauntlets on crisis suits seem like the easiest pick. Maybe a crisis variant for Farsight to lead with swords and shield?

>>95874858
I was making fun of >>95874679

>>95874878
How many dunk gifs do you have in your folder?

>>95874871

>>95874752 (OP)
>TQ
Generic HQ in experimental stealth suit
Original style stealth suit kill team
An all drone attack squad
More Vespids. HQ and heavy options at least.
Another xenos auxiliary, preferably something psychic.

>>95874893
Now that's what I'm talking about. Is there more?

>>95874918
A few. Not many of them edited like this, but I have a ton of battle report archives and stuff.

>>95874923

So there is not a single detachment for the chaos cults where demons are good…shame.

>>95874893
>>95874923
>armageddon pattern chimeras, leman russ conquerors
KINOOO

>>95874929

>>95874923
>>95874929
Delightful. Great job on those, it's lovely seeing them with the forgeworld vehicles because they're a perfect fit. I don't know why, I just love the stuff from Codex Armageddon especially the Steel Legion kits. I wish they weren't obscenely priced because I'd love to have an original set, but at least there's some 3d print files that are damn near carbon copies.

>>95874778
I'll vote for Bernie if he makes a Deathwatch Xcom game.

>>95874950

>>95874943
The khorne one is pretty decent. The others are bad yea.

>>95874958
Gorgnard bias, but yeah I find the late 3rd / early 4th edition sculpts for IG to be the golden era. The late metal regiments and then the forgeworld-enhanced plastic kits.

When multipose cadians came out we got a lot more versatility, but at the expense of some grit and dynamism, I think.

>>95874968
Oh damn, very nice.

>>95874968

>>95875003

>>95875003
>>95875005
>there's even more
>valks
I got nothing else to say. Fantastic.

>>95874828
if i iirc correctly an older edition had a wargear option that let melta suits use their meltas as melee weapons

>>95874871
1k of Templars, just finished

>>95874889
imagine being so mindbroken by a single post you dedicate an entire thread to it

>>95875031
Got some air support, too, though I've only ever played them in 2 games

Been working on my emperors children a lil bit

Do the Votann have a Josef Bugman?

Getting back into 40k with 10th and my Death Guard are easiest to get access to. How does this list sound? Trying to use as much of what I have as I can without being cheesy and unfun to play against.

Foul Blightspawn (80pts): Close combat weapon, Plague sprayer, Warlord, Eye of Affliction
Plague Surgeon (50pts): Balesword, Bolt pistol
Plague Surgeon (50pts): Balesword, Bolt pistol
Plague Surgeon (50pts): Balesword, Bolt pistol
Tallyman (40pts): Close combat weapon, Plasma pistol
Tallyman (40pts): Close combat weapon, Plasma pistol

10x Plague Marines (190pts)
10x Plague Marines (190pts)
10x Plague Marines (190pts)

2x Myphitic Blight-hauler (180pts)
Myphitic Blight-hauler (90pts)
Plagueburst Crawler (195pts): Armoured tracks, Plagueburst mortar, Rothail volley gun, 2 entropy cannons, 2x Entropy cannon
Plagueburst Crawler (195pts): Armoured tracks, Plagueburst mortar, Rothail volley gun, 2 entropy cannons, 2x Entropy cannon
Plagueburst Crawler (195pts): Armoured tracks, Plagueburst mortar, Rothail volley gun, 2 entropy cannons, 2x Entropy cannon
Chaos Rhino (85pts): Armoured tracks, Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Combi-weapon
Chaos Rhino (85pts): Armoured tracks, Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Combi-weapon
Chaos Rhino (85pts): Armoured tracks, Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Combi-weapon

>>95874304

>>95875106

>>95875051
sexy as fuck!

>>95874968
fantastic work!

Allow me to re-post my regiment. Even though since this picture was taken there have been a lot of additions made to the army.

I'm at 1530pts painted but only half of that is parade ready/based/given the full treatment. Do get the last parts done with the other half or go kickstart another 500pts to have my first ever 2k list?

>>95875033
absolutely delicious!

>>95874752 (OP)
Probably a new Crisis suit variant, better scaling and streamlined weapon options.

More auxiliary units.

Probably a Monat Kias suit.

>>95875083
They're still new enough that there isn't but there seems to be an equivalent to Bugman's brew.

>>95875091
MUCHO TEXTO

I enjoy seeing old miniatures painted up well.

Do Enhanced Warriors even exist anymore, btw?

>>95872565
>is there really a point of using the official app over new recruit
Oh yeah, I never give my money directly to GW because they suck but the app is really good.
Really convenient way to look up rules and everything, stratagems grouped by combat phases, just a very neat and fast UI. I was pleasantly surprised.

>>95874786
They're usually nice people, she would probably agree.

>>95875072
Looks nice, really like the purple tinge on the blades

>>95875106
>>95875108
Well that's fucking fantastic. What's been used for the body?

Lots of models being posted right now

>>95875144
>I enjoy seeing old miniatures painted up well.
I love old Boxnoughts

>>95875147
I like the app.
I wish there was one for HH.

>>95875106
>>95875108
>>95875115
There's too much to ask about, but I'm mostly curious about the hulls for the Sentinels and the Ogryns. Are those shields part of whichever third-party sculpt you made them from?

>>95875155
Grey Wolves mog babyblues so hard it's not even funny, just sad

>>95874752 (OP)
>What's next for the T'au in terms of new models?
Praying for Kroot and Vespid genocide, and some sort of melee crisis suit probably defensive oriented rather than attack to contrast against the Farsight model.
Death to all auxilliaries, all my homies hate the ugly freaks that don't match aesthetically.

>Lord Kakophonist mini I ordered finally arrives in my LGS
>points nerfs means everyone's taking him off from their lists
At least he looks neat

Really need to start painting my wraithlord for the contest today

>>95875159
Common Heresy W

>>95875159
Yes

>>95875186
Why care about your mini's standing in the meta? I buy models that I like, if my army as a result is shit good it will be even more satisfying to win.

>>95875159
baby blue SW and the other kiddie paint schemes from 2nd ed. were a disaster to 40k

Had a dumb idea for a force.
Shadowsun -100
Stealth suits x6 -120
Stealth suits x6 -120
Stealth suits x6 -120
Piranha x3 -180
Piranha x3 -180
Piranha x3 -180

I'm going to borrow some piranhas from a friend and try this out later in the week.

>>95875186
>At least he looks neat
That's all that matters in the end.

>>95874923
Your army is amazing, anon. Amazing work.
My only nickpick is that those techpriests should still wear red robes

>>95875152
>>95875157
the sentinels are purely 3D printed, the ogryns are a mix of different 3D prints.

Do we have an unlocked version of the app? Or are people really buying the overpriced books?

>>95875186
think of it this way, its far more fun when your "not meta" unit actually manages to do something amazing on the table

>>95875186
Sucks that he doesn't fit in your list anymore. I don't collect EC, but I've been trying to get that mini just to paint. Hopefully, it will come into stock at my local store.

>>95874871
AWOO

good night lords books?

>>95875338
>every single dude has a dedicated tactical rock™

>>95875171
Kill weaboomech niggers. Eat weaboomech nigger's hearts and then puke it because it tastes vile. Scalp weaboomech niggers and make a coat with their balding ponytails.

>>95875352
Weeabomechs look cooler.

>>95875344
>good night lords books?

>>95875345
They help with stability, I guess

There's something worse than a sweat lord ork player

>>95875345
>>95875361
Wyches don't have tactical rocks and have to be on slotta bases because of it

>>95875370
Is it (You)?

>>95875358
Anon asked for good books.

>>95875388
Nothing* I'm too tired to be posting right now

If I were to make a Chimera heavy "platoon" list, what should I run for alternate models that compliment it in ways I may not think of?

>>95875404
His wrist is broken.

>>95875404
this is awesome bro, how much I wish eldar models were taller and thinner

>>95874752 (OP)
>>Thread Question:
>What's next for the T'au in terms of new models?
guevesa kill team
plastic aunva
plastic aunshi
kais

>0-1
I build terrain
>2-3
I paint
>4-5
I build some models
>6-7
Vidya
>8-9
I get drunk, eat fast food and waste the day away under the parasoll

>>95875481
I guess today is a terrain day.

Rolled 3 (1d10)

>>95875481
hold up let me remember how to do this

>>95875352
I would still like T'au if you got rid of all the suits and left me with nothing but Breachers, Pathfinders, Warriors and Drones. But fucking get rid of all the Auxilliaries. OR get them actual T'au style full body suits of gear so I don't have to look at one of those kroot darkies disgusting bodies ever again.

Rolled 6, 5, 5, 1, 5, 5, 6, 1, 5, 4, 5, 6, 5, 6, 4, 5, 4, 3, 6, 4, 3, 2, 3, 5, 2 = 106 (25d6)

>>95875484
options field dice+1d10
or 1danything

>>95875171
>he says
>posting shit that fits the aesthetic and theme even less

>>95875412
Asking again for anyone who knows mech lists.

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

I have ritualposter fatigue

>>95875530
then stop being terminally online

>>95875530
ritual poster? more like shitual roaster

>>95874752 (OP)
>TQ
Plastic sniper team
Another hover tank
Another giant robot
More Vespid options

>>95875530

>Drukhari player throws a squad of 5 incubi led by an archon into a knight lancer
>Deals over HALF of its wounds in damage
>Archon SURVIVES the recourse
>Drukhari player bitches and whines for the rest of the night that the Lancer is OP and unkillable
Am I retarded for thinking it’s perfectly reasonable that an 85pt unit lead by an 85pt character (coming out of a 65pt transport for stratagem reasons) shouldn’t be able to oneshot a 420 pt knight?

>>95874775
the kroot were such a fucking waste, fuck those age of sigmar ass salamanders

>>95875565
Mental illness

>>95875508
So Tau troopers but on mass like they're a WW2 army

post yfw deldar get dropped in 11

>>95875574
That unit actually costs 260 pts because it's Archon+5 Incubi+Venom and then probably also an an enhancement or stratagem to get them into melee without getting overwatched and a pain token they don't get back because they didn't secure the kill. In the scenario you described, they also failed to flip the point the Knight was standing on because they have less OC than the Knight.

I'm not saying that unit isn't very good for its points cost, but it is still a huge investment to fail to kill your target with your trade unit.

That player is still quite whiny, but one of the biggest problems with Dark Eldar is they have theoretically massive damage that is incredibly inconsistent because they have such terrible wound rolls on everything, even if they have very consistent hit rerolls and don't really have access to lethal hits or devastating wounds.

The archon 2++ gimmick is also quite cute, but as soon as you learn to always grenade or tank shock him or just shoot a stubber into him since he only has T3 4W he becomes just as fragile as every other DE unit

>>95875588
>>95875588
Age of Sigmar salamanders look a bit more flamboyant.

>>95875598
Wouldn't surprise me. If any faction gets rolled into a bigger book it'll be them into an overall Eldar codex. It'll happen eventually.

>>95875574
lancers aren't even that good lmao

>>95875598

>>95875615
the fuck with that image? Why is the Warhammer and 40K community so adamant that you have to play current game?

>>95875600
I’d agree with you if we were talking about even a Land Raider, but the lancer is 160 pts more than this combo, which if you’re not including the venom is over double, and the ONLY reason it lived was because of having a 4++ in melee. Had it been any other knight they’d have mulched it from full wounds, which is bonkers to me

>>95875625
People spend so much time inside their echo chambers on the internet that irrelevant bullshit has a disproportionate effect on their behavior.

>>95875630
it's crazy how Knight players will see the glass cannon army use all of its cannon, fail to kill one unit of several, then wonder why they're complaining

>>95875625
perhaps you're not aware but back in '15 we would beat the shit out of fantasyfags in our local stores and forced them to play smegmar

>>95875604
god i wish this guys warscroll wasnt such a flaming piece of shit. $50 per model too for like a 5 wound mini artillery piece, biovore syndrome

Imperial Agents expansion is coming...
I can feel it...
>TQ
More suits that aren't massive like the Stormsurge and Ghostkeel, it's been a long time since the Tau got a average looking battle suit. Maybe a auxilliary, earth caste or water caste support unit if you wanna be extra about it. If we are talking about refreshing old units (which seems to be the only thing GW has been doing as of late) please bring back the old metal characters like Aun'Va ans Aun'Shi and those well crafted metal ethereal sculpts.
If anyone even suggests a Gue'La KT im here to remind you lot it's the easiest and most common Tau kitbash anyone could come up with, get to work and make your dudes, GW doesn't need to baby you over something so simple and easy to make that really doesn't need specific rules that much.

>>95875345
>>95875361
I hate tactical rocks. most of them make me mad since 90% are not elevating the models pose in the slightest. tactical rocks should be reserved for flying/jumppack models only with the odd exception for enhancing a character's pose. average troops should never be monopose so you can adjust the model for stability

I will die on this hill

>>95875511
>anon thinks these two things look like they match and belong together and not part of two different factions visually
>>95875591
Sounds better to me than having Vespids or Kroot in my battle force. Split them off into their own force for the enjoyers if you need to. Write some lore about the Ethereal mind control breaking or something.

>>95875689
I'm trying to think of a good reason why Sisters of Silence can't be run in Imperial Agents and frankly all the reasons I can think of are kinda bad.

I know you /40kg/ guys like to meme about ArmyPainter's Dip but pic related made me realize that it may not actually be that bad.
Anybody actually use this product? I'm thinking of dark tone.

>image source:
https://youtu.be/i73IBev48i8?t=617

>90% finished painting model
>really happy with how it's turning out
>time to paint one last detail
>final detail looks so fucking shit it ruins the entire model for you and now you hate it

>>95875754
>muh star trek feel of all inclusive species

>>95875769
post it anon, other people won't have their eye on it like you did unless you really fucked up

>>95875769
>you attempt to fix it
>it ends up looking even worse

>>95875604
Brain chip is so subtle yet so good at adding the alien tech to the dinos

This week's work

>>95875776
That's lore, which is written after the fact to justify miniatures people want to buy. Also their army certainly doesn't feel like that mechanically considering its a one phase army instead of being an all rounder who uses the sum of its parts to excel AND 95% of its model range is normal T'au armour aesthetics between the full body armour on the soldiers and the armoured vehicles. Just get rid of those dumb bird gorilla things, their fans are an extreme minority and lore can be written to justify the schism quite easily

>>95875630
Yeah, I'd argue the Lancer is a bit overpriced but your point still stands. Incubi are whack.

>>95875799
nice anon, i wouldnt have the patience or time to paint boyz as detailed as you have. did you mix ogryn camo with a flesh colour for the lower lip?

>>95875827
Thank you. Yes, it's ogryn camo, a reddish shade and then a few touches of ogryn camo.

>>95875780
That could make something worse happen though, where someone thinks the bad detail you were talking about was actually one of the bits you liked and then you can't unsee two problems.

First boner bros and others what are you working on?

>>95875574
im surprised he even managed to get that close, last game i played against marines my opponents lancer just sat in the corner and shot at everything and i couldnt even get close to it (melee army)

in saying that what did he expect? that unit would be wounding on 6s with a little bit of AP, and the archon has anti infantry on the weapons. wtf was he doing charging that unit into a vehicle? a vehicle with t10 lmao

>>95875832
ive only just started painting the lips on orks and i think last time i did a mix of ogryn camo and kislev flesh but i like how yours isnt too vibrant so i might give your technique a try. was it carroburg crimson or something similar for the shade?

>>95875794
Cool : D

>>95875866
i got knight lancer confused with gladiator lancer, how embarrassing of me

>>95875882
Yes, carroburg crimson. It gives it a fleshy tone without being too much.

>>95875856
I use some Firstborn dudes on some of the larger Space Marine vehicle bases so they're all fighting together.

>>95875768
>I'm thinking of dark tone
Isn't that just a very dark brown dip instead of an actual black dip?
Either way having seen that vid I'm now interested because I have a load of 40k models to paint.
>44.49 Canadian Dollars
I think I'll stick with acrylic washes.

I counted and there are a total of 50 different kind of flies on Typhus' back. That's 50 pair of wings, 50 pairs of eyes and 50 bodies you need to paint individually and they all merge with the sculpted smoke effect. Absolutely dreadful miniature to paint.

>>95875972
Meant 50 flies of different kinds. There are at least 4 different kinds.

>>95875972
Well if you don't like painting so much detail maybe you just shouldn't get this guy?

>>95875972
have you considered simply not gluing the parts you don't want onto your model?

it looks like a completely optional part of the kit

it's so funny seeing all the metachasers bitching about painting DG now

>>95875981
Well I am still allowed to say my opinion on a mini I own. I like the Typhus sculpt overall but the smoke effect on the back is way overkill, DG in general sometimes veers into overdetailed territory and Typhus is the worst offender of it imo. But it seems like GW is already pulling back on that.

>>95875998
I've been painting DG since 9E, I just left Typhus for later because he's a complex sculpt.

>>95876003
>Well I am still allowed to say my opinion on a mini I own
It's kinda tiring when you do it every day though >>95870328

>>95876003
You don't have to apologize. It is well known that the CAD monkeys over at GW design are high on their own farts and don't understand the meaning of 'less is more' as they deliver designs more fitting in a zoomer shooter like fartnite

>>95876022
You need to take your meds or do something besides browsing these threads my man, this isn't normal.

>>95875972
Looks like shit.

>>95876034
Right back at you

>>95875972
I really hate this model compared to the old one.
>old one: implacable monster heralding the inevitability of death
>new one: "HEY GUYTH!!!"

>>95876085
>implacable monster heralding the inevitability of death
it's just a terminator with a scythe, dude

>>95876085
>implacable monster heralding the inevitability of death
He doesn't even have a tactical rock.

>>95876085
It makes sense for him to wave his arms around while gaseous toxins billow around him. Typhus craves attention and loves huffing his own farts.

>>95876085
The NuHammer 8th-10th edition 'cord didn't like this post!

>>95875922
Id love to see that

Dead thread

>>95876215
dead life

Dead thread because I blame the trolls who wanted to win fights they started.

Hey, must be great to have nobody in the thread you want to participate in right?

How is everyones vehicles for the collage coming along? I want to remind you that the deadline is the end of the month. Last weekend this month we'll be voting on next months theme, feel free to share your suggestions.

>>95876234
Mine's fairly close to being done

>>95876234
I think including me 3 or 4 anons are done and a few more are still working on theirs.

>>95876234
i had to give up after getting suckered into an LGS escalation league that's taken up my hobbying time
i'll participate in the next challenge, promise

>>95875327
Playing GSC. Having random units being nerf is not fun.
I'm still surprise we didn't get a random aberrant nerf as usual.
Still mad about the cowboy and biker sniper useless status

>>95876234
battlewagon is about half done. i gave up on my deff dread, id rather paint something im more likely going to use

>>95876257
i want to know what you're taking all of these photos on, even the quality is late 90s tier

>mods rangebanned carnac finally
last few threads have been better now that you can’t shitpost as much

>>95876309
>carnac
Who?

>>95876341
Don't worry about it.

Play Necromunda

>>95876256
this is very nice sir

>>95875799
I enjoy your blues, nice little details. Good highlights.

>>95875972
the definition of detail overload

>tfw a rockgrinder has more melee potential than a fully kitted out battlewagon

a bit cringe innit

>>95876102
>He doesn't even have a tactical rock.
consider jumping off a tactical rock, preferably head first into a woodchipper

>>95876378
>behold my Typhus from 2009

>>95876387
soul

>>95876387
soulless

>>95876387
These were insanely easy to paint

Devlin Mud was released that year if I recall

>>95876402
>>95876393

Behold, /tg/

>>95876387
its lovely, do you still collect DG?

>>95875998
being a meta chaser must be so exhausting, imagine having to change armies once every few months, assembling & painting the entire lot, along with (most likely) going through the hassle of selling the previous army thats no longer flavour of the month

>>95876411
Cute little models I love this picture so FREAKIN much

>>95876309
But its so slow now

>>95876309
Did you READ the last thread?

>>95876411
why does modern 40k look like greytide on L-shaped hellscapes and not this?

>>95876467
He’s a schizo troll that lurks /40kg/
Just report ignore and move on.

How do you find a Warhammer event where the special miniatures are available?

Thinking of running a weirdboy with breakas just for the fun of it. Now, say that I use da jump and it's successful, can I use a bomb squig in the same phase? It states that I can after the unit ends a normal move, does teleporting across the table count as a normal move?

>>95876234
I'm waiting for my 3D printed stuff to arrive so I can get on with the tank.
I am growing impatient.

I get that White Scars are all about the 'gotta go fast' gimmick but the lack of any non-30k WS Dreadnought pictures is quite disappointing. I wanted to get some inspiration from other people's work when building my DW WS Boxnought but there is almost nothing to refer to.

>>95876501
those are usually for your local Games Workshop store's anniversary (their opening date) or Tournaments or big conventions

>>95876524
>3D printed stuff
Are you who I think you are

>>95876501
Store Anniversaries are the most common. Sometimes there are special ones but I don't think we've really had that since the 500th store opening. Still a great one where AoS got a unique sculpt where the sculptor talked about all the little details and lore he thought about while designing it. And 40k got a Primaris Lieutenant.

>>95876549
>>95876533
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/bq8wldj5/this-years-warhammer-event-miniatures-revealed/
Would going to a store and asking them which events are taking place in the country help or would they have no clue?

Are death guard fun to play?

>>95876501
It's been a long time since I got one of those, the last one I got was the jump-pack captain from 2009's Gamesday. That guy was a great chaos lord.

>>95876563
>opponent quits when your deathshroud drop and annihilate half his army
Yes definitely.

>>95876560
Oh yeah just ask them when their story anniversary is, they should know.

>>95876234
I've primed but not started painting. I was going to do some today but ended up on the wine instead

>>95875757
Imperial Agents for their army rule just need a list of units they can ally in. Sisters of Silence, Tempestus Scions, maybe a few semi elite options and some vehicles. I 100% could write an Agents codex that would mog GW'S.

>>95876630
Wait... can they really not ally with Tempestus Scions? Fucking HOW? That's like their core unit in the lore

>>95876540
>Are you who I think you are
I don't think so. Who do you think I am?

>>95876549
>iron sight blocks the view of the scope
Is GW ever gonna fix this oversight?

>>95876658
SM2 shows that the front sight is see through.
Just imagine it as that.
Simple.

>>95876658
The HH marines have this fixed I think.

>>95876525
Heh, the thumbnail makes it look like shes got her tiddies on display underneath a sheer top

>>95876658
it's not an oversight, the scale and proportions of the model simply make the iron sight WAY larger than what it would be

>>95876533
Air, Earth, Fire, Water...wait, are the Tau based on Captain Planet?

>>95876658
Yes

>>95876686
Yeah, man. The four classical western elements were invented in the 80s for a children's TV show.

>>95874871

>>95876686
They don’t have a Heart Caste.

>>95876692
God damn, I should really collect come Iron Warriors one of these days.

>>95876758
>I don't know what the Etherals are.

>>95876549
>another primaris lieutenant
yeah we're having a shortage on those guys

>>95876805
>he doesn't know

I am kinda upset with the way GW is treating SM factions. I've recently learned that BT crusaders can be taken in squads of 20, same with WE berzerkers.

I know it's because profit and I know it's because infantry SM get folded instantly on the table.

But, hypothetically, if someone at GW decided to make marines more elite feeling again, how could it be done?

>>95876858
Marines were never elite, fluff or tabletop. Aside from GK ig

>>95875338
Trying to drill the bolters with bad drill bits is a pain

>>95876858
>But, hypothetically, if someone at GW decided to make marines more elite feeling again, how could it be done?
Make marines 3W, T5 but average squad is at best 5 models, so only 5 intercessors or whatever.
That's the only way of doing it.

>>95876858
Make Marines and Bolters S5, since a 50 cal is S4. Make them T5 too.

>>95876637
There is a reason everyone is pissed about this Codex. It was REALLY easy to do better than they did. Core inquisitorial units are missing and instead we just get every catchall kill team. Deathwatch was so bad they had to release an entire new index for them because it had no rules to use any of your deathwatch marine models. It literally was just the Deathwatch Veteran Kit, Watch Master, Artemis and Blackstar. 4 datasheets. No marine datasheets or vehicles.

The Agents codex is sadly probably the absolute lowest point of all of 10th edition, and they have no intention of fixing it.

My attempt at an Agents Army Rule:

Inquisitorial Requisition:
You can include Imperial Battleline Units up to a max of 3 depending on army size [1 for 1000, 2 for 2000, 3 for 3000]. If you do, you can include 1 dedicated transport or 1 non-Epic Hero character unit with the leader keyword that can be attached to that unit in your army with the same faction keyword as that unit without being counted for purposes of this rule. If you attach an Inquisitor to that unit it gains your choice of 1 of the following Keywords: Ordo Hereticus, Ordo Xenos, or Ordo Malleus.

Sanctioned Doom:

During the deployment step you can select up to 1 unit based on battle size [1 for 1000, 2 for 2000, 3 for 3000] to gain your choice of [Scout] or [Infiltrate].

>>95876692
The thing I hate most about this is they spent 20 years in the lore saying marines didn't use sights because their power armor, helmets and brain were synced up that they can do braced hip fire in any situation with the accuracy of normal human marksmen.

They literally just forgot that part to add more stupid bits on all the primarishart weapons. Primaris unironically lost the most basic superpower that marines had: hip firing any weapon. And what's even more retarded? 99% of marine models do not have them aiming down sight. They still hip fire anyway! ITS A PURELY DECORATIVE WEAPONS SIGHT.

The real answer is just to clip the sight off the weapon.

>>95876946
Tbh all bolters should be T5 and marines T5. Boyz can remain T5. Bolters being unable to consistently would half naked orkz is unironically retarded. For the shit like sisters bolters and storm bolters those can also go up to S5. It would make them fill their anti infantry roll much better and lets face it bolters are mathematically the worst class of weapon in the game at this point, barely better than CCW for guardsmen. Giving them a damage boost is not going to be game breaking, maybe a few of the weapons go up in cost.

>>95876978
> they spent 20 years in the lore saying marines didn't use sights

When did they ever say this? Even ancient tactical squad sets had a scope included.

>>95876946
>>95876988
>T6 nobs/tyranid warriors etc.

>>95876714
jesus christ anon... I feel embarrassed comparing my models to your mad free hand skills

>>95876990
Honestly I can't remember the source, probably old codexes talking about power armor. It was also in their IIRC that you can't shoulder a bolter because the armor is too big / shoulders are too big. You can't actually do a cheek weld with astartes armor. I know it was said many times in many different places. I could go read through some old codexes today will I'm watching my kid to see if I can find a source.

>>95875051
Hi again SLAnon, I'm back. Anything I can reply with would just be gibbering like a schoolgirl in front of her favorite 90's boy band, so I will just say it is a pleasure to see one of my favorite armies so thoroughly assembled and presented. Incredible work. I dreamed of owning a FW Thunderbolt and Marauder Destroyer back in the day but they were unobtainium back then, probably even more so today for the original Imperial Armour I era kits.

>>95875106
>>95875108
>>95875115
Same for you, amazing. I feel like there are 2 types of Guard players, those that model their armies directly off of the official art, and those that customize them to hell. Great job.

>>95875091
Looks fine to me. Deathshroud terminators are the hotness right now if you are interested in those.

Saw this posted in a Crusade group I'm joining in late summer. It was a game against a new Dark Angels player and an experienced Sisters player. See any red flags? Not exactly what I expected a crusade game to look like.

>>95877060
White tide...

>>95876988

> Orks should be tough
> Marines shouldn't struggle to kill Orks

This right here is the cycle responsible for the absolute dumpster fire that is 10E. This is exactly how you end up with T6 W4 4++ Terminators while Guardsmen are still rocking S3 AP-

Pick a lane, either Marines are elite or xenos are allowed to be good.

The fact Gw actually decided to do something interesting with WE shooting gives me hope that they might actually flesh them out like they did for GW and do something beyond "angry guys with chainaxes". We might even get Teeth of Khorne!

>>95877060
You'd have to paint the flags red yourself, but that might be asking too much

>>95877060
>unpainted out of the ass
>sisters player running full mechanized
>lion
>repulsor
metafaggotry is afoot i'm afraid

>>95877060
Crusade is a casual game mode so I can forgive in progress paintjobs. The terrain could at least be spray painted with rattle cans. The marine army looks fine, 1 Repulsor, 1 dread and a bunch of infantry.

the sisters player, however, needs to kill themselves. The paragons are being held in reserve and there are 3 immolators splitting 2 BSS squads between them. Its an almost entirely T9 and up army. 3x Exorcists means literally have his army is going to sit in his deployment zone, make their indirect attacks, then say go. Its guard parking lot with sisters. Absolutely despicable behavior. There is no game here, its just he either stat checks you or doesn't. I can't imagine taking this list to a crusade.

Especially with sisters, where the entire point is to make a living saint with your Saint Potentia.

>>95874752 (OP)
FARTSIGHT ENCALVES MY BELOED

>>95877094
Mech sisters has been a thing since sister existed. Non mech sisters are the anomaly.
That said predator tanks should stay in the marine line.

>>95877094
>repulsor
>meta
Don't both of them kind of suck right now

>>95877000
There barely any-
Oh

Chaos Androids when?

>>95877076
Orkz and Marines both being tough is fine. It's not power creep to make them both slightly tougher but let every bolter in the game do ANY damage whatsoever to them. This is how I know you don't actually play 10th. If you did, you would have seen thousands of turns of 40 bolter shots doing 2 wounds to an infantry squad and getting bored of that. Bolters are ridiculously underpowered at their intended role. If you don't want Bolters wounding orks more than 5% of the time then make that apply to every single weapon in the game, because every other army has significantly more deadly weapons and Imperials just don't take the units with bolters in any circumstance unless there is some dumb combo bullshit. Bolters being unusably awful is how you get this >>95877060

There are other ways to make a unit more durable than just not taking wounds at all.

Lore makes it sound like Guards’ armor regiments stand no chance at all vs Tau hunter cadres. Is this true or overstated for sake of selling Tau?

>>95877119

>>95877144
votann bots

>>95877108
Some vehicles is fine your entire army being tanks with sistems seems a bit sus to me.

>>95877076
>need a lascannon to kill an ork boy more than half the time
>why is my game 10 vehicles versus 10 vehicles
You have it backwards. If only heavy weapons and vehicles can kill infantry, and infantry cant kill infantry OR vehicles, vehicles are just the optimal unit to take in a vacuum and you have to make pushed rules to retroactively buff infantry to be mediocre but at least useful.

>>95877149
And Chaos Androids are Chaos Squat creations.

>>95877144
Easily the worst original designs in ages.

>>95877144
I hope these become available soon, cool models.

>>95877119
with vashtorr's wave of units for codex chaos space marines in 11th edition, together with the reinvented defiler.
you'll see a kill team of darkmek cultists before that though.

>>95877119
Whenever you decide to make some.

>>95874778
Playing Daemonhunters makes you want to scam college kids and Redditors?

>>95877133
Both sides get glazed in their own stories. In marine stories they run at 150 MPH and a single one can kill an entire city by himself. In tau stories the marines will be picked off by the superior weapons and tactics of the tau. Its literally just about who the story is meant to glaze, all of BL exists to glaze someone so you go buy products related to that someone. It's best not to get into power level autism because every author makes their snowflake the most speshul.

>>95877164
Those look a lot better in regular tsons colors

>>95877095
I'm the one who posted this and that's exactly how I feel about that sisters player. I play sisters and seeing so many exorcists felt wrong, with three big ass ruins in deployment and all the empty space in no man's land you just get shredded while standing on points.

>>95877181
still look too much like necrons

duality of 40kg

>>95877188
>Those look a lot better in regular tsons colors
It's existance is still a mistake.

>>95877133
Tau have the Stupidity field. Enemies will do stupid shit around them.
Pask was know for not using baneblade, immediately starts using them when facing the tau while just running them straight ahead with no sense of strategy or tactic.
Vindicare assassins the guys known for never missing and waiting for their targets for months miss multiple time and grow impedientes.
Callidus assassins, good enough in melee can fool genestealer cults and eldar (guys that can read minds) some how mess up with the Tau because it smell off and fail to kill a tau in melee within a enclosed space and in melee.
Eversor also fail in melee but at least manage to kill something in melee.
For some reason the culexus assasins the anti psyker one manage to walk into a tau transport sit inside because Tau never take of their helmets and the culexus power make them invisible to tau tech for some reason. Then killed the tau pope.
Space marine also lost in melee to the Tau too
There is some kind of stupidity field around the Tau that make their enemies retarded when facing them. Because is not your regular plot armor, but characters and regular known things go out of their way to act the stupidest way possible when facing tau.

>>95877200
I dunno man, I kinda like em

>>95877188
Hardly. They look extremely stiff and unnatural. The pose is simply awkward and the robot itself looks like a Votann's robot in a fursuit.

>>95877205
And 99% of people don't.
It doesn't mean the sculpt is any good.

are corsairs an acceptable replacement for guardians in an eldar army? the models are sooooooo much better

Anon who commissioned these cool tarot cards, did you ever get the full set done? I would like to see them if you did.

>>95877190
I'm not sure how I would react if I had to set up my fluffy army that's half agents allies across the table from that. I would have to work really hard to contain my autism not to complain the whole time.

>>95877183
>tax billionaires
>this is a scam for college kids

>>95877188
Wow, it really does look significantly better in the armies color scheme. Such a confusing reveal paint job.

>>95877225
You should really be comparing them against Rangers, not guardians. They don't exists to OC contest objectives or anything, they exists to be part of the early game space taking and the few models that survive if any do actions.

>>95877225
If you want to use them as guardians, it's fine.

>>95877164
the design isn't bad, the size it, if they were way bigger they could at least look imposing rather frail.

>>95877227
>Such a confusing reveal paint job.
They clearly wanted them to be space ushabti with the bone but it just didn't translate well. Especially since ushabti didn't have the bone as their primary color.

If Magnus lost his jobber status would he be almost invincible?

Legitimately asking how many Space Wolves actually read the codex astartes ?
(Also why can we post YouTube normal videos but not sorts?)


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Il9f9M5YA0s

>>95877225
Totally different box of frogs. Corsairs are a scouting infantry that try to pick off enemy characters in a specific unit. Guardians artists and poets who sit on your home objective until they die.
If you meant can you use Corsair models for guardians then probably but you'll just have to ask your opponent every game if they're cool with you doing a proxy, shouldn't be an issue too often.

>>95877261
buy an ad

>>95877060
cringe table

>>95877204
Lmaos the culexus, specifically bred and trained to kill psykers, is the one who succeeded in killing the tau leadership. The race with the least psychic presence besides the Necrons. Its like trying to drown a fish.
Nevermind the eversor and callidus are there but somehow failed.
Granted, the Vindicare is the worst temple. Every story with them in it has them fail their mission, so that I'm not surprised.

>>95877227
Give me money and I'll go tax those billionaires for you.

>>95877308
To be fair you don't need to be a psyker to feel the effects of the feel of the culexus' null aura.
The culexus can in fact even amplify the said aura's strength even further with the equipment they have.

>>95877346
True, and you actually CAN drown a fish, but with all the tools the temples have, the cullexus is the LEAST useful against the Tau. The temples sending a Culexus is stupidity caused by shitty writers. And having him succeed, not by an out of box method but just normally, is even worse writing.
Its like saying Darkseid, Brainiac, Lex Luthor, and Joker ganging up to kill Superman... and Joker succeeds by spraying Superman with an acid spray. Not kryptonite acid, regular acid. No explaination, no surprises. Just like that.
It reeks of shitty writing, which is on par with a normal 40k writing quality, actually.

>>95877382
Fair.

>FLGS is closed on Mondays

>>95877144
Stargate looking motherfuckers, they look like they'd eat a shot from an Abrams and blow up.

>>95877309

>>95877211
>the robot itself looks like a Votann's robot
yes men of iron do be looking like men of iron
it might even be intentional!

>>95877463
It wasn't a complement.

>>95877466
you lost

>>95877485
I'm perfectly aware of where I am. I don't need a map.

Does anyone have details on where ADB lives?
Northern Ireland?
Does anyone know where more specifically?

>>95877501
Omagh

>>95877501

Just had a game vs Space Marines Vanguard Spearhead detachment with exactly 0 Phobos models. With almost using deepstrike and shooting within 12", the detachment rule didn't really do much.

>>95877463
those arent men of iron. They are robotic constructs from an ancient unnamed alien race that imprisoned the demon known that acted as Magnus tutor directly after the Horus Heresy. They are possessed by demons. They are basically just shells for demons to inhabit.

>>95877195
if we dont pretend to hate new models the jannies will ban us

>>95877582
No, they are men of iron enhanced with magic
>the Thousand Sons won’t let a daemon get within 10 feet of possessing one, knowing that replacing the servile purity of their protectors with the capricious whims of a warp entity would be an exceptionally bad idea

I miss the 9e Black Legion teleport bomb list. No list in current edition has even come close to hitting the same gameplay highs for me. Without psychic or real wargear options, CSM feel super boring. I miss my 9e Master of Possession and combi-meltas.

>>95877600
They are yokai: https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Yokai

>>95877605
no, they're sektar robots, men of iron with magic on top

>>95877619
the sektar robots are yokai.

>>95877582
>They are possessed by demons.
The TS in fact take great effort to make sure this doesn't happen, using various wards and constant purges and checks to make sure no daemons are fucking with them.

>>95877463
>it might even be intentional!
Careful anon, they might also put together the intentional design similarities between votann robots and admech robots.

>>95876463
So is Isha qctually just dead in lore? She never gets brought up in anything.

>>95877694
Not really much to bring up, she's in a constant state of being used to test nurgles experiments and her tears are still being collected by craftworlders and that's really it. Cegorach can't do anything to save her and Khaine is fucked so she ain't getting saved anytime soon if ever.

>>95876920
>let's increase wound creep even further
Fuck right off with that.

>>95876858
I think Marines are plenty elite it's just that d2 and d3 is too common this edition, especially in armies like Chaos and 1k sons

>>95877722
>I think Marines are plenty elite
not when you can field 120 of them easily

>>95877715
Hey, he wanted a solution to making marines feel more elite.
I provided one and the truth is, that is the only way you'd achieve it.

>>95877257
Imagine if some of the Sekhetars were armed with weapons like that. They could have been a cool melee bodyguard unit for your sorcerors.

>>95877669
>the enlightened atheist iron warriors
>use daemons as batteries and in everything they do machinewise

>the supposedly superstitious cult legion
>takes great care to make sure daemons don't fuck with their shit
Makes you think.

>>95877748
Should have had a variant where you go two claws, then you could do something like pic related with them.

>Average DA player

>May Emps have Mercy

>>95877785
Why did the Lion steal Abadabadons stuff?

>>95877785
>>95877794
go back

>>95876646
He's not me, I print my own stuff

>>95877794
I was thinking the other day that trying to do a full spectrum on some part of a model (like an RGB light bar) would be cool.
Definitely nothing like that

>>95877762
never ever in 40k

>>95877820
Should look into Sugden's work for good use of color gradient.

>>95877785
>>95877794
every lion needs its pride right?

Think my frenchie is getting allergies from my resin models I ordered, anyone had something like this happen with their pupperino?

>>95877785
>>95877794
>faggot lion
>put chaos shit all over him because reasons?
Not really sure what they were going after with this one.

>>95877835
While this is painted well and the colors are really effective I feel like displaying a lot of models painted in this style would get old pretty quickly.

So…..10th ed. Who would unironically go back to 9th and not look back?

>>95877794
>>95877785
The cloak of many colors is kinda dope. The rest I could care less for though.

>>95877864
Which point in 9th edition? Arks of Omens when it was all said and done? Sure, any time. In between Codexes with the constantly escalating power creep? Not a chance.

>>95877864
i prefer 10th to 9th

>>95877864
9th? I think you mean 3rd.

>>95877864
I would, if those are the options presented.

>>95877762
2 claws or a Tzeentchian Halberd. That way you can rip apart MEQs with the former or TEQs and Monsters with the latter.

>>95877794
this is gay (pejorative) and not gay (cute guys kissing)

>>95877785
>>95877794
>LOLOLOLOL GET IT?!?! BECAUSE OF DA ROCK!!? DA LION IS GHEY!!!
I hate tourists so much it's unreal.

>>95877925
No, it's because the chapter is named after a poem about being gay written by a gay poet who their primarch is named after
keep seething dangelfaggot

>>95877940
I'm not even a Dangel player and I'm tired of people relegating the arthurian aesthetic & references to more degenerate faggotry.

Spaceships

>>95877954
Well maybe you shouldn't be surprised a chapter named after being faggots get memed about being faggots

>>95877954
Go back tourist

>>95877601
Creations of Bile has been fun.
Last night I had a game where I rolled +1 attack and +1 WS; my Tau playing opponent was very upset about the Warp Talon crimes that enabled.

It's already been a month.... how long until the Death Guard nerf?

>>95878019
3 months

>>95877967
You can't even come up with anything other than a projection of your own status. That's just pathetic

>Literally nobody uses them
how do we fix it

>>95877060
That sisters player is fielding way more than 1000 points

>>95878053
Points drops and make marines a horde army
t. GW balance team

>>95878045
>n-no u
lmao

>>95878045
>Didn't know about Lionel Johnson and his poem the dark angel
>Tries to call others tourists
Lol!

>>95878053
Sneakily proxy them as Invictor Tactical Warsuits.

>>95878053
They cost way too much points wise compared to the Ballistus.

>>95878053
Squat them

>>95878053
Make them cost less points.

>>95878053
Make the big Macro Plasma Incinerator D6+3 and make the Vindicator D6+1

Why did Cawl

Because Cawl did

>>95878085
>Uses a random piece of fiction that coincidentially has the same name as another fiction
>Calls other people tourists for not using it instead of actually established lore
How retarded are you to have your entire stance on dark angels come from something that isn't 40k? That's why you're a tourist, because you're literally using everything else but 40k to talk about 40k.

>>95877957
luv me corvus blackstar, simple as

>>95878053
Points drop to 200 (or less) would help make list building with it less of a hassle. That or up the strength of the Plasma Cannon or Gatling Cannon so the shooting isn’t overshadowed by the Strength 12 melee attack (don’t lower the points cost for the second option)

>>95878149
>coincidentially has the same name as another fiction
ohh you're RETARDED retarded lmao

what's the name of the book where the lion meets dante

>>95878149
>Exposes himself as a tourist
>Doubles down and shows it off even more
Embarrassing, just stop posting
You're anonymous bud, nobody will know how retarded you are in an hour

>>95878149
>Space Marines just coincidentally HAPPEN to sound like two words that exist in the English language, but ACTUALLY they're GROUND ARMY, if you didn't use your preconceived notions of things that aren't 40k you wouldn't be a tourist!

>>95878149
>no bro it's just a coincidence they share a name with a gay poem and their primarch shares a name with the gay author of that gay poem trust me bro stop calling me gay bro

>>95878067
>>95878089
>>95878102
>>95878111
>>95878120
>>95878122
>>95878158
>190 Pts
>Keeps the Melee
>D6+3 shots on Plasma
>Big Gatling gets Sustained 1
Does this fix it

>>95878165
>>95878173
>>95878174
>N-no you! You're the tourist for not accepting their faggotry!
Nothing about the poem or the content within the poem has anything to do with how the Dark Angels operate or their darkest secret. At best, it's all a surface level observation with similar names and nothing else. Nothing the Lion did or has done is about fighting his sexual urges nor does he have his own personal "dark angel" to indulge in his personal degeneracy. This is just the Kimba/Lion King debacle all over again.

>>95878208
>tries to shift goalposts
retard, people laugh at you and call you a faggot because you're named after a faggot and his poem, not because you suck dicks
keep seething

>>95875757
Because they should be with Custodes in 'Talons of the Emperor' codex.

>>95878221
Awful suggestion. Simply awful.

>>95878053
When are we getting a venerable redemptor model?
And no, I don't give a shit about the lore where it burns out pilots, not even GW cares about that.

>>95878211
Cope anon, jesus christ. No-one cares about that bit of Lion trivia, it has no relevance whatsoever to 40K.

>>95878221
No, SoS belong in the imperial agents.

>>95878181
>It's your fault we associate a completely unrelated poem to a fictional character because they have the same name! You're the tourist for not doing it either!

>>95878246
>>95878249
(you) tried
give up, you aren't correct

>>95878248
>>95878221
>>95878236
The only reason sisters of silence where rolled into the Custodes army was because the designers couldn't figure out how to make an army without cheap MSU disposable units work when they already had Knights.

>>95878249
do you think ferrus manus having metal hands is a coincidence

>>95878239
I think that whole burns out the marines in it has been soft retconned, no?

>>95876658
Do you not understand what heroic scale is, dumbass? Weapons and heads are blown up larger than the rest of the model with unrealistic proportions to make them easily readable from across a 4 foot table. They're not true-scale and were never meant to be. There's nothing to "fix".

>>95878211
this is just surface level interactivity with 40k. this is the same shit that retardditors like you spout as if its true

>>95877864
Yeah 9th was actually a pretty decent edition by the end, all told. Not perfect but much better than 10th.

>>95878249
it's just a coincidence the raven guard leader is named corvus corax too right

>>95878286
9th was fucking brutal for my army so I don't think going back to 9th would've fixed anything.

>>95878208
No, the Lion King is Hamlet. There's nothing new under the sun anon

>>95878269
You're so mad about being wrong lmao

Who was in the wrong here?

>>95876858
You're a fucking idiot. Crusaders and Berzerkers were always units that could be taken in huge numbers like that, going back to fucking 3rd ed.

Marines aren't Custodes. They aren't super elites that are impossible to kill. They never were.

The Dark Angels and Lion El'Johnsson are based on the poet and the guy's poem from the middle-age. The poet was gay and the whole "dark secret" inhis poem, most likely, is about his catholic upbringing and it clashing with his own sexuality.
However in 40k the "dark secret" is not about the Dark Angel's being secretly gay, the secret is their history with the Fallen.
But the creators like Priestley, Jes, etc. did 100% intend for the gay jokes, the original creators were massive history nerds, they would know about the poem and how it relates to the guy who made it.

>>95878258
Well the lore says Ferrys Manus wrestled a metallic dragon that he ended up dipping in magma; melting the beast and fusing the living metal onto his hands. So yes it's not a coincidence that a man named ferrus manus would be named after his iron hands, along with a chapter named after his iron hands.

>>95877060
>See any red flags?
This post is a joke right?

>>95878260
At least it's not being mentioned at all.

>>95878260
nothing needs to be retconned. Space Marine 2 showed us the new direction of 40k in general. No addressing of the empire being bad or all the stuff about 40k that gives normies the ick! Just anime style protags fighting the bad guys all the way down. Redemptors burning out their pilots just needs to simply never be addressed again, because there is no more depth to 40k storytelling then cool robot show up and throw statue.

The dread here might as well have said "GOOD EVENING TITUS! LOOK HOW COOL I AM! ARENT I COOL SMASHING THE HERETICS?" for all the grimderp modern sanitized GW will have.

>>95878291
I don't even know or care what you're arguing about with the other guy, but you aren't one of those morons who thinks the Legions all got names similar to their Primarchs themes by coincidence, right? They all had different names or no names at the start and were renamed AFTER their Primarch. There were no "Raven Guard" before Corax, there were no "Iron Hands" before Ferrus Manus, they were just called "XIXth Legion" and then got renamed in honour of their primogenitor.

>>95878286
9th was dogshit, are you high?

>>95878304
Magnus the Wrong, naturally.

>>95878325
Most of its problems stemmed from bad external balance as each Codex was giving massive buffs to every faction, once all of them were out it was pretty solid for a nuhammer edition, better than 8th and WAY better than 10th.

>>95878304
Space Wolves kind of got what was coming to them from the tsons perspective, but desu 40k space wolves are generally much better guys than 30k space wolves.

The tsons in 40k are shadows of their former selves who are fully slaves to chaos, which is really sad considering what they used to be.

>>95878309
he was named that before dipping his hands

>Dark Angels players still taking the bait
Every time

>>95878325
It was certainly less dogshit than 10th is.

9th edition is like having a broken leg and you have to stay inside for like 6 weeks, but at least you got your entertainment. Like books, movies, games, etc.
10 edition is like having a broken leg and you have to stay inside for like 6 weeks, but you none of the fun things to entertain you.

>>95878331
It wasn't solid for my army. When the codex came out it was early in the edition and people bitched themselves into conniptions until the other codices came out and powercrept the edition into absurdity. They dropped all of the nerfs against my army's codex towards the end of the edition and it was by far the worst army in the game. Awful fucking edition.

>>95878336
He was not, and if that's some BL crap that came out in recent years then see Rule #1 of 40k lore discussions:

>NULORE? IGNORE!

>>95878323
None of those primarchs were named before their legions in real life
(you) tried

>>95878346
Just because it rhymes doesn't make it smart.

>>95878341
Okay but 10th is bad for EVERY army because the entire core game is just fundamentally unfun and retarded regardless of how powerful a given codex is or isn't

>>95878322
Man I can't wait for SM3 where there's a snarky Eldar lady who acts as the sidekick who Titus can't stand until halfway through the campaign where she makes a mistake and Titus has to save her, and afterwards she apologizes to him for how rude she was and spends time afterwards saying how great he is until someone jokes about her having feelings for him (but he just kinda ignores it because he's a stoic badass), solidifying Eldar as the Space Marine Girlfriends faction.

>>95878322
I don't know man SM2 has tons of grimdark moments if you pay attention, guardsmen being executed, mentioning that serfs shifts are being extended to 18 hour minimums, all the general horrible stuff is there.

>>95878356
That's great now everyone gets to experience terrible design the same way my army did on top of losing the wargear system and all of the options with it. Maybe they just need to do a far better job and get writers that give a shit.

>>95878353
No one gives a fuck about real life here, we're talking about fictional space men with three lungs that spit acid

>>95878356
>entire core game is just fundamentally unfun
How so?

>>95878336
No he wasn't. Why would you even try to lie about that?

>>95878368
>shifting goalposts again
lol
lmao

>>95878371
Listbuilding has been simplified to the point that weapon options are either used or the unit isn't used. The granularity of making a squad and balancing points out is replaced with taking in and out full groups of dudes just to try and compensate for the points inevitably left unspent. The gameplay itself is a boring slog where you are gambling for 6's to have any consistent lethality, and the fun of crafting your perfectly fluffy army doesn't matter anymore because it's all about competitive play.

>>95878322
Tonally the depiction of space marines in SM2 is honestly basically the exact same as in any DoW game, except maybe more self-serious, and even that I'd mostly chalk up to the cutscenes being longer and more cinematic than in most RTS titles.

>>95878332
>but desu 40k space wolves are generally much better guys than 30k space wolves
Still funny how the wolves were all against the inquisition for unnecessary slaughter when their history in HH and before was doing just that. Hell they had zero issue cutting down civilians to get to Magnus. There's a reason they were the legion that had literal marine commissars at one point.

>>95878395
>because it's all about competitive play.
Is it?
Or is that just your store?

>>95878364
Not really, it's like the safe edgy meme version of 40k grimdark. Nothing like the actual Blanchian surreal fever dream nightmarescape that 40k is really supposed to be. It's supposed to be cyberpunk meets silent hill meets hellraiser meets event horizon, not shiny clean GI Joe with a few extra skulls and purity seals slapped over the top.

>>95878322
>No addressing of the empire being bad or all the stuff about 40k that gives normies the ick! Just anime style protags fighting the bad guys all the way down
Anon, SM2 was the same SM1.
It's still plenty grimdark.

Also that whole dreadnought moment in the game is there for both cool and shock value. Because both GW and Saber interactive know people would look at that and go "Holy shit that's fucking cool".
All 40k video games have been about selling the models, and in that instance it makes the redemptor look bad ass. And that is the entire point.

>>95878411
>It's supposed to be cyberpunk meets silent hill meets hellraiser meets event horizon, not shiny clean GI Joe with a few extra skulls and purity seals slapped over the top.
Well we haven't really got that ever in 40k vidya adaptations so not sure why you would single out SM2 with that.

>>95878371
Even thinking about typing up all the way 10th sucks makes me feel so exhausted I need another coffee. It's just so fucking bad man.

>>95878306
>1893 Poem
>Middle Ages
>"Most Likely"
Just because you post a picture saying facts doesn't make you sound smart.

>>95877864
Of all the post-7E editions, pre-codex 8E remains my favourite. It was smooth, fun and refreshing. Codex powercreep ruined everything, as always.

>>95878419
You're right, I don't mean to single it out, it's a good game on its own merits, fun to play, but lorewise and stylewise there's a lot to nitpick.

>>95878410
No, the entire way the game plays is for competitive match play that GW takes note of for future balance patches. Every time something is changed in the dataslate it's because a comp user abused it or it wasn't abused enough

>>95874752 (OP)
>someone ordered me the special space wolf box when it went on sale from gw
>still no shipping confirmation or anything
Is this normal? Haven't ordered from these fuckers in years.

>>95878427
Fair point.
Here's the thing.
I'm not a history nerd and I don't look up when some obscure poem about being gay was made.

>>95878431
Index 8th, or crusade 8th, bring me back

>>95878410
Have you tried a playing fluffy list for more than one game ?

>>95878447
Wasn't Crusade a 9th ed thing?

>>95878416
SM1 ended with Titus being condemned for heresy for acting heroic and being taken away by the Inquisition under suspicion of heresy.
SM2 ends with Titus being divinely contacted by the Emperor before getting rewarded by Marneus Calgar (who earlier had a badass awesome slo-mo entrance, and is also Titus' personal buddy) and specially selected for a new assignment because he's super duper cool and awesome.

>>95878460
I run a gravis + techmarine + vehicle heavy IH list and it does fine despite not runing the meta characters like Gman
My Kabal Druhkari list works fine too

>>95878442
At best, the entirety of the dark angels was a reference to the names of the poem and the poet. Everything else about them is based on the aesthetic of medieval aged knights of the round table. Even the name Lionel appears as one of the knights so the poem link is even more dubious

>>95878364
10 guardsmen being executed isnt an entire hab block being made into onions for a nobles dog, which is kind of the thing that defines early 40k. in fact, we dont see a single member of the planets populace at any point. just cadians, who are super badass soldiers who doesnt afraid of anything. the most defining non human moment in the game is the cadian general giving that (admittedly really cool) speech before they roll out in a tank column.

https://youtu.be/ttzg0-4IR44

>>95878410
The game is explicitly balanced for competitive play now because rules lawyers spend days going over rules. Just look at how they've had to start writing FAQ's to stop people from exploiting the game.

>>95878477
>so the poem link is even more dubious
No, it isn't
it is EXPLICIT

>>95878419
>>95878434
Have to agree with that and what >>95878404 said. Its not really faire to single out SM2 because vidya in general tends to be sanitized. But that forms a lot of peoples impression of 40k in mass consciousness.

>>95878473
>SM2 ends with Titus being divinely contacted by the Emperor before getting rewarded by Marneus Calgar (who earlier had a badass awesome slo-mo entrance, and is also Titus' personal buddy) and specially selected for a new assignment because he's super duper cool and awesome.
And if you weren't a retard you'd know then Calgar also says that the "chaplain" has recommended Titus for a certain super duper important mission. Lo and behold it's the Bitch Leandros who then makes not so subtle remark of "I don't like you, you're still chaos corrupted no matter what Calgar or even Tigurius say and I will kill you if you ever show suspicion of Chaos for a moment."

Also here's another fun fact.
Remember that Secret Levels animation amazon made? That's the super duper special important mission Leandros wanted to send Titus onto.
Why? Just so Leandros could get Titus killed off by the daemon.

Again, 40k is still plenty grimdark. You have to actuall engage your brain and think.

>>95878470
You're right, I'm a tard

>>95878497
Prove it. Show the proof that the reference was intentional. If you are so fucking inclined to believe all of this then show me where it was confirmed that the allusion is a real conscious decision and not some fandom headcanon

Inquisitor Martyr, Darktide, Rogue Trader, Necromunda Hired Gun and Speed Freeks do a far better job of characterizing 40k than either of the Space Marine games. Notably for all of those titles, space marines are very much not prevalent in the plot and character gallery.

>>95878502
>Also here's another fun fact.
>Remember that Secret Levels animation amazon made? That's the super duper special important mission Leandros wanted to send Titus onto.
You mean the assignment where Titus and Co. casually slaughtered dozens of cultists without so much as being scratched and only start to struggle when a daemon shows up for dramatic effect? And then Titus just goes 'Nuh uh' to the daemon and kills it to show how special and awesome he is?

>>95878512
I AM A WARRIOR!

And we still haven't seen grendyl's ass at any point.

>>95878502
The Emperor's Mercy is not an action of hatred or selfishness. It's a deliberate act to save a man's soul from damnation or worse. If anything, Leandros is saying that he'll save Titus from Chaos' grasp should they ever find an advantage. It's like some grimdark comradery

>>95878512
Blood, Shootas, n Teef was also a bit fun with it.

>>95878520
look man I think if you're getting to the point where you're mad that an ultramarine captain kills some cultists, something might be wrong

>>95878512
Space Marine 2 still does well as a 40k game.
It's going to feel different for the very simple reason that you're playing as a space marine.
You're quite literally a gene-forged super soldier that carries an automatic grenade launcher in your hands while meleeing the dinosaur insects with a fucking chainsaw.

It's going to feel a lot different compared to something like darktide where you are just a basic bitch human fighting inside a hivecity against bunch of zombies.

>>95878256
Multiple people are disagreeing with you anon, cope more.

>>95878200
I would keep the points cost the same if the shooting improved. It’s a T10 W12 vehicle with an ability that reduces damage from attacks by 1. Throw a Techmarine in as his buddy and he could even start healing D3 wounds for under 250 points if the Redemptor Dread was 190.

>>95878512
Sm2 and darktide along with helltaker Minecraft and tabletop simulator are the only games installed on my pc off the top of my head.
I think my consumption of 40k is getting to be a little much.
Though most of my guard are third party from anvil industry so maybe it isn’t as bad but still this thread has made me kind of reconsider whether I’m consuming 40k too much.

>>95878534
>falling back to denying his samefaggotry
>ignoring the several posts within the cooldown laughing at his pathetic deflections trying to defend the honor of his faggy green marines
lmao

>>95878529
A shame we never got dlc or a sequel. It would have been fun to fight a few more factions.

>>95878520
>You mean the assignment where Titus and Co. casually slaughtered dozens of cultists
Yes?
You think bunch of retard cultists will do anything to 5 space marines who have superior, equipment, weapons and SKILL?
The last part where the daemon kills 4 of them is very appropriate for 40k because that is how powerful daemons are.
The only reason why Titus survives is because
1. he is the protagonist
2. he is, according to the very fluff, built fucking different (a thing that was blatantly set up all the way back in SM1 14 YEARS AGO)

Is darktide just another day in the Sanctus or imperium nihilus or a world on the verge of getting exterminatus’d?

>>95878546
Um, I think you're actually speaking with someone else at this point. I was theain anon who sperged about this and I'm talking about 40k games now

>>95878512
is it normal in 40k to give a sister of battle and/or a death cult assassin a shitload of drugs and watch them wipe an entire Drukhari Kabal/Chaos incursion/Greater Daemon/Necron Dynasty/Ctan

>>95878554
I wonder what exactly they're building up to with his strong warp resistance.

SM2 is not thay grimdark because it follows a space marine. Darktide has all the grimy grimdark of the foot soldiers with servitors glitching out and begging for death, or just crappy hive life.
Rogue Trader has the whole "wasteful bureucracy" grimdark done well, especially with genestealer dlc where you explore a ship's underbelly.

Wby the fuck are we nitpicking a game centered around space marines not being grimdark enough?
That's like watching a SEALS or Delta team going on a mission in an active warzone and complaining its not grimdark because we dont see corrupt politicians killing hookers or fentanyl hobos roaming the streets riddled with crime.
The fact I need to say this is insane.

>>95878527
>If anything, Leandros is saying that he'll save Titus from Chaos' grasp should they ever find an advantage.
It's not. It's an open threat. Leandros absolutely hates Titus, that's been set up since SM1, and he utterly despises that he has shown up again since he was taken away by the Inquisition.

His only crime was caring about his brothers.

>>95878554
Did the secret level 40k animation basically conclude how Titus does it with his resistance to chaos or is there more to it?

>>95878567
In Space Marine 3 he's going to steal Magnus' wallet. Magnus hasn't been humiliated like Morty or Angron

>>95878577
Magnus got banished by a space wolf scout, sure he was a named character but still.

>>95878567
At the end of SM2 when Titus wakes up after having destroyed the power source it is highly implied that it is the Emperor himself is talking to Titus and telling him to wake up.
But Titus himself confuses the voice to be from Calgar.

>>95878530
>>95878552
>Titus and two Intercessors casually kill dozens of Rubric Marines, several Helbrutes, hundreds of Nids (including Zoanthropes, Lictors, and Carnifexes), and fend off a Lord of Change with bolters
>His 'special assignment' is to... take a squad of Bladeguard Vets to fight some cultist squads and a single random Daemon
Yeah dudes it was totally Leandros trying to kill Titus

>>95878594
Yeah I beat the game on release when it said Calgar was the speaker, then saw they updated it to be "Voice".

But what is the goal? Is he going to be reinstated as a captain? Sent to the Grey Knights?

>>95878533
>You're quite literally a gene-forged super soldier that carries an automatic grenade launcher in your hands while meleeing the dinosaur insects with a fucking chainsaw.
Yeah it also nerfed the everloving shit out of the Tyranids in order to let the players live their meme version 40k power fantasy, when in actual lore Titus would have been fucked up by the first Warrior with boneswords because those are crackling psychic power weapons that would slice through his chainsword and armour like butter and those sorts of Tyranids are faster than Marines and would strike first.

>>95878603
They want Titus to be the main protagonist of 40k. There'sca solid 90% chance the 40k show will just be following Titus as he goes on missions killing lots of xenos, and it'll build up to him being a Living Saint.

>>95878614
If the show is live action and not cgi it will probably flop.
They’ll be using so much cgi that they might as well go the extra mile and make the whole thing animated like the secret level animation.

>>95878561
Darktide is just slightly more Chaos corrupted than your average tuesday on Necromunda

>>95878603
>But what is the goal?
I dunno. He could become a captain again or he could be forwarded into being part of Calgar's or Guilliman's personal retinue/honor guard.
Or even more outlandish option, the devs go with an idea that was originally planned for the SM trilogy 14 years ago.
Aka, Titus creates a new chapter. But in this case it's either Calgar or Guilliman telling him to found a new successor chapter for the Ultras and he becomes the first chapter master of the said chapter.

>>95878630
That's not really that outlandish. People seemingly forget that Chapters are supposed to found new Successor Chapters from time to time.

Titus is just a 'canon' version of the Black Lion.

>>95878599
Wtf? I was talking about an ork game.

>>95878605
>in actual lore
Lmao Mr Jimmy Workshop here telling us about "actual lore".
"Actual lore" is whatever Games Workshop writes/OKs to write.
Know what's even more insane than Titus killing warriors?
Logan Grimnar fucking up Magnus with his khorne tainted axe (that h'es immune to). How about Kaldor Draigo doing open heart surgery on Mortarion to carve his old mentor's openly long name on it?
How about Azrael killing a Keeper of Secrets as a scout?
Sounds crazy huh? Imagine that, they're all "actual lore" written by Games Workshop. You can piss and shit yourself seething it doesnt correspond to your headcanon though, I' sure it will become "actual lore" because you, the Loremaster, decide it to be.

And dont talk tabletop stats. I had a scout kill a swarmlord in melee thanks to the dice rolls, so that should be canon too.

>>95878506
NTA but
>prove to me that the chapter called The Dark Angels with the Primarch Lion El'Jonson was based on a poem called The Dark angel written by a man named Lionel Johnson
Dude.... come the fuck on lmao

>>95878561
It's a little vague. Obviously the situation is really bad, but it's not clear how bad. The PCs aren't told much more than "this is where you're going and this is who you're killing." What's going on beyond those narrow parameters is mostly unexplored, but sporadically small hints will drop and suggest you are only dealing with one of many concurrent catastrophes. Whether you are fighting alone or in concert with a larger force, whether your efforts are futile or making progress towards winning the war, whether your boss is even a real person, and why the war is happening at all, are all questions left more or less unanswered.

>>95878605
Or maybe tyranids aren't as powerful as they are thought to be.
Even in SM2 one of the marines gets taken out by what amounts to a fucking roadside IED bomb made by the Taliban.
I mean the red helmeted sergeant that was friends with Chairon and gets killed when the Tzeentch cultists guardsmen explode the big pile.

Also in that very cutscene the marine reflexes are somehow oddly slow, even though marines are smart enough to sniff out an ambust like this instantly and they would realize the guardsmen are just deserters and they would kill the guardsmen without hesitation for not immedeatly explaining what they were doing.

>>95878642
Every time I see good 40k fanart I scan the picture for the black lion on instinct now.

>>95878575
Ahriman is fucking great but all of Tsons lore is "the road to hell is paved with good intetions" quite literally.

>>95878630
This is a good idea though and not that unlikely. He's too competent and special to remain a lieutenant, he already has experience as one of the better living Ultramarine captains. I do think a meeting with Guilliman is in line though. At some point.

>>95878650
I said to prove that the reference is actually intentional. You couldn't even do that let alone read properly

>>95878647
>Logan Grimnar fucking up Magnus with his khorne tainted axe (that h'es immune to)
A Chapter Master wielding a unique relic weapon that cancels out psychic power because Khorne hates psykers, fucked up a pskyer? Woah.
>How about Kaldor Draigo doing open heart surgery on Mortarion to carve his old mentor's openly long name on it?
A Grey Knight Chapter Master whos entire order exists specifically to fuck up daemons managed to fuck up a daemon after using his True Name cheat code to render Mortarion temporarily helpless? Woah.
>How about Azrael killing a Keeper of Secrets as a scout?
Yeah that one I have no defense for actually, but I also don't remember ever reading that in earlier lore so it sounds like it's some nulore ignore tier bullshit.

2/3 of those were completely justifiable though. Far cry from a regular Marine Lieutenant beating Tyranids in melee.

>>95878672
Yeah they just accidentally repurposed the poet's name after naming the chapter after his most prolific work

>>95878651
Thanks anon. My problem with darktide is that I play it too much instead of hobbying like I should.

>>95878644
Sorry, that was meant for >>95878554

>>95878672
You're right anon, it is entirely believable that is a complete accident. JUST MERE COINCIDENCE. Lmfao.

>>95878675
what kind of autistic power level retarded is required to have a baby rage that a named space marine captain can beat tyranid mid size infantry. LMAO.

>>95878647
>How about Azrael killing a Keeper of Secrets as a scout?
I've seen this attributed to two or three different dangels and it's gotten to the point where I'm suspecting some anons are playing a game of telephone with fluff they never read.

>>95878681
Again, no proof of intention or even a fucking screenshot saying "Yeah we meant this Lionel and not the one in the Matter of Britain."

>>95878668
>SM3 multiplayer has you play as Titus, Cato Sicarius and Uriel Ventris as you become Guilliman's fist.
It could be fun, and really up the ante now that Titus has joined the ranks and works alongside Ultramarine's other super captains.
Must be something huge if these three are involved though. But fuck it, could be fun.

>>95878647
>And dont talk tabletop stats. I had a scout kill a swarmlord in melee thanks to the dice rolls, so that should be canon too.
I remember when shit like this was more likely despite the odds like when I had ten guardsmen surround and poke a daemon prince to death. Nowadays the prince would just use sweeping strikes and it would be over before anything interesting has a chance to happen.

>>95878701
>It could be fun, and really up the ante now that Titus has joined the ranks and works alongside Ultramarine's other super captains.
>Must be something huge if these three are involved though. But fuck it, could be fun.
I mean in lore he mogged Cato Sicarius so hard that Cato had an inferiority complex for the rest of his life lmao

>>95878700
How about you provide proof of the claim you're trying to make lmao

>>95878701
Replace Cato with Calgar and you have yourself a deal.

>>95878605
Titus is a Named Ultramarine Captain. The only other guy with an equivalent title is Cato Sicarius, who 1v1'd a C'tan.
A Nid Warrior is not as strong as a C'tan.

>>95878714
nta but lion el johnson has more to do with lancelot du lac than lionel. the hunt for the fallen mirrors the hunt for the holy grail (His forgiveness).

>>95878331
>>95878339
I disagree. Codex creep, stratagem bloat, and faction secondaries (especially) were absolutely awful. I'll take 10th any day.

>>95878766
Faction-specific secondaries could have worked if they synergized with how the army played. Instead some of them were incredibly inconsistent or mediocre at best.

>>95878766
>Codex creep, stratagem bloat, and faction secondaries (especially) were absolutely awful.
Yes, but you know what would've stopped and helped that?
GW just stopping that garbage and then letting 9th go on for like 3 more years.

10th is still flavorless dogshit that is genuinely less balanced and more retarded 9th ever was.

>>95878690
>parrying power weapons with a chainsword

>>95878766
>stratagem bloat
This was the worst part of 9th and was easily fixable without throwing out all the good parts. 10th fixed one problem and made 90% of the rest of the game system significantly worse.

>>95878701
Playing as 3 captains is retarded. You don't think they have jobs? They are needed running their companies all over in a galaxy stretched thin. All Marines can swing a sword, these guys are leaders and tacticians.

>>95878808
Detachment system is absolutely goated and I will not budge on that.

>>95878605
>Psychic weapons
>against a guy with strong defense against psychics
Skill issue tbqh, dumb nids

Honestly i think 10th just needs wargear costs and a bunch of weapon/high t rebalancing

>>95878842
Could've just added that to 9th.

>>95878842
Only complaint I have about that is it sucks if your army has one or two detachments that don't feel complete or up to snuff.

>>95877060
>People actually play boring, ugly boards like this with unpainted armies full of metaslave bullshit
Dreadful. I would rather never play than play this shit. Anyone that plays this game with a tourneyfag mindset should kill themselves. The only way to play 40K is use an army you like with units you think are cool and see what happens. I cannot understand the need to just run bullshit lists that are no fun to fight or see. Shameful.

>>95878842
9th detachments were better in that they represented subfactions. This detachment system is very bare bones and is very limited to only a few units that get a bonus. Sometimes the detachment is just plain useless as shit

>>95878848
10th needs to bring back psychic phase, wargear cost and bring back the actual points system.
Also over turn the terrible force org shit that causes these shitpost meme armies like 21 space marine captains.

>>95878808
Stratagem bloat wasn't even a real problem, every codex boiled down to having about at most 5 useful stratagems anyway, it hasn't really changed the amount your opponent has that you need to be aware of, if anything its increased for some factions.

>>95878842
I dunno, I dislike how they encourage skew for some armies. Like if I run aspect host I have no reason to bring wraiths except maybe 5 wraithblades.

>>95878766
10th is worse than 9th in almost every aspect.
It's the least fluffy edition to date.
The force organization is dogshit.
Removing psychic phase was stupid.
Giving every damn model their own special rule is retarded
Weapon keywords are shit because GW can't balance them for shit.
Free wargear is a terrible idea from the very concept because there is no way of making shit like a bolt pistol and plasma pistol (a direct upgrade) cost the same and make any sense.
No one asked for the removal of the points system and then have it be replaced by reskinned powerlevels.

What people wanted from 10th edition was that GW would just lessen the bloat (stratagems) and then they'd stop retarded power creep in the codexes.
No asked for the retardation that is current 10th edition.

>>95878766
10th is so bad I haven't touched a game. At least with 9th I could say I had a few fun games. With this it's so boring and lifeless that it feels more like a game of chess

>>95878546
Who even thinks "I wonder what sexuality my Marines are?" because its completely irrelevant, they don't understand sexuality, its been genetically modified out of them because its completely worthless to their task.
Saying that the Dark Angels are all gay because their Primarch is named after a gay IRL poet is just such a ridiculous position to take.

>>95878858
Yea, true. Agents for example just has the one useable one. But they have been doing a better job with detachments in the new year and Grotmas really layed the groundwork for just giving new detachments out to factions that need them. The chaos codexes have been pretty decent as well.

>>95878871
Its way better that they don't represent subfactions. The fact that they don't means it is far more flexible for storytelling, your dudes or showing different subfactions within a subfaction. People already complain that people play their ultramarines using a Dark Angel detachment or Blood Angels detachment or something. if we had more stuff like that for the factions with 5 detachments you just get the situation of feeling gimped if you didnt randomly like the lore of the good faction right now.

Like in sisters, with Bloody Rose being really strong and feeling penalized if you weren't playing as them. Now you can play Sacred Rose for example as any of the detachments, and represent different battle formations or story driven armies within that faction that you like. But if you really want to do the Martyred Lady aesthetic there is Army of Faith there waiting for you.

>>95878899
This. I don't play the game, I'm just here to complain about how bad it is.

>>95878899
>>95878914
>10th is so bad I haven't touched a game. At least with 9th I could say I had a few fun games. With this it's so boring and lifeless that it feels more like a game of chess
>This. I don't play the game, I'm just here to complain about how bad it is.
This general personified.

>>95876234
We have a monthly thing again? Fantastic. Is it any vehicle? I got a Dragsta

>>95878944
Yea, just end of the month. I haven't started mine yet... and I sat around all day. Okay, I'm setting up my painting station tonight because I have all week off this week to paint. NO EXCUSES.

How are the nihilus guard regiments generally? As I want to make a degraded regiment.
>inb4 Star Wars pic
I’m using it as an example of how with supply lines cut the regiments begins to “degrade” in appearance and gear.
I’m looking at anvil industry and want to make a regiment that conveys that situation that the guard are in.

Choose

>>95878835
Anon the Chapter Master jumped out of a thunderhawk to save what? 30 marines?
The primarch himself wields a big ass sword, THE sword even.
3 of the top captains of the Ultramarines working together is not that unheard of, especially if the ante is high enough.
Ffs, on the tabletop Guilliman is always around even for 1k games.

>>95878921
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the game is going to be a miserable slog. Every model has to roll their special weapon, every rolls has to be rerolled or modified, your enemy has to make his rolls that'll take just as long, and you'll probably waste your time because you didn't roll enough 6's to wound anthony's rectumation squad

>>95878958
considering the middle and right are homages to the left, the original always wins

I LOVE IT WHEN MY THROAT IS DRY I LOVE IT WHEN MY LUNGS BURN I LOVE IT WHEN RATIONS RUN OUT

>>95878960
>Ffs, on the tabletop Guilliman is always around even for 1k games.

>>95878958

Mossa managed to draw 40K content that was more normal, the arms and shoulder pads a a bit off mind. I like his bowl cut, thats a good idea for them.

>>95879013

>>95879013
>>95879018
Neato.
He is at his best when does do more normal stuff.

Is it a requirement for every inquisitor of note to be a trained psyker or is that just writers preference?

>>95879030
He's at his best when he's drawing our OC with fat tits

>>95879030
Yeah I love a lot of his historical work, but you'll be browsing through it and then there will be some pedo bait bullshit or someone with their twat out randomly.

>>95879040

>>95878957
If you can get previous cadians and mix and match parts from anvil then you’ve got a good shot at making it work. Otherwise it will be a bit difficult to sell the look unless you go motley with the looks and give them a lot of wear and tear in the paint jobs.

>>95879032
Does probably make sense the psykers are gonna go farther.

>>95879034
Which OC?
I should create one and shitpost it so hard that Mossa draws it.

>>95879030
>>95879034
>>95879040
Nictanova is quite similar in style and less questionable.

>>95878958
The right one is so absurdly lethal that I'd be lucky to be only asleep after a crash if anything went wrong. The Marine one at least has weapons.

>>95879051
Cultist chan.
There’s even some stls of her from dakkadakka or wargameexclusive. I have one printed and even the Panties are sculpted so I might have to paint them.

Would love to see them fix more old artwork.

You think mossa genuine likes 40k or just draws it for the likes on social media?
At least the female primarch artist has posted joke models he has made and painted in the past.

>>95879078
What's there to fix? RT art is still peak.

Why did it take them ten thousand years to realize that it might be good for the quality of human life if things like food, drink and shelter were more accessible?

>>95879065
>Cultist chan.
Oh yeah, me retardo.
Though it'd be nice to get Mossa to draw my 40k OC.

>>95878341
Crons?

>>95879099
Better shitpost your oc harder than black lion does with his oc in art commissions for it to become a meme then artists will pick up on it and draw it for free.

>>95879099
I miss frozen flames anon, dude got fanart of his marines.

>>95879078
https://imgur.com/a/vintage-40k-artwork-aAHBq#0

Which ones would be nice to redo?

>>95878958
The goat

>>95879109
I still hope he was just looking for an excuse to leave this place and was not enough of a dumbass to quit the hobby entirely over a nothingburger

>>95879169
Maybe he joined the battletech exodus, never saw him in /btg/ though.

>>95879103
Ad mech

>>95879131
Human Renegades for sure.

>>95879044
>coomers throwing a tempy tantwum any time you don't want their pr0n content shoved in your face
The insecurity with these people is so annoying. The very idea that someone might not want to look at porn at any given time is taken as a personal insult. It's like having a friend who is a coke addict who gets their feelings hurt you don't want to do coke with them.

>>95879197
Ah. Yeah that's rough. What a glorious three weeks though, huh?

>>95879177
/btg/ went to shit so I doubt he would have stayed around there, either.

>>95879097
Anon, it is the 41st Millennium. For more than a hundred centuries The Emperor has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Earth. He is the Master of Mankind by the will of the gods, and master of a million worlds by the might of his inexhaustible armies. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of Technology. He is the Carrion Lord of the Imperium for whom a thousand souls are sacrificed every day, so that he may never truly die.

Yet even in his deathless state, the Emperor continues his eternal vigilance. Mighty battlefleets cross the daemon-infested miasma of the Warp, the only route between distant stars, their way lit by the Astronomican, the psychic manifestation of the Emperor's will. Vast armies give battle in his name on uncounted worlds. Greatest amongst his soldiers are the Adeptus Astartes, the Space Marines, bio-engineered super-warriors. Their comrades in arms are legion: the Imperial Guard and countless planetary defence forces, the ever vigilant Inquisition and the tech-priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from aliens, heretics, mutants - and worse.

To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.

>Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.

>>95879197
>>95878341
>They dropped all of the nerfs against my army's codex towards the end of the edition and it was by far the worst army in the game
It is pretty funny how they removed every single codex nerf and they still ended up the worst faction in the game at the end of Arks of Omen.
But the thing is AdMech got destroyed by the core rules changes more than anything else. Their codex was written back when you got all your CP up front and could allocate it into massive upgrades and alpha strikes. That never got reverted. Even giving AdMech all their power back they just couldn't function without a lot more CP than they actually got in a drip fees over the game at that point.

>>95878360
They'll just turn the Eldar into the new Leandros who betrays Titus at the end for arbitrary reasons and becomes the new most hated character in the franchise.

>>95879266
Oh yeah, back when you had to pay a cp for the warlord trait or a relic. How fucking assbackwards was that?

>>95879237
>projection

>>95879240
It was crazy how the army was radioactive until other codices caught up and then suddenly it didn't matter.

>>95879237
Board was made by coomers for coomers, fuck off puritan tourist

>>95879295
My Sisters army generates up to 4CP a turn :)
>canis rex free tank shock
>watch master free grenades
>canoness free grenades
>junith generates 1 CP on a leadership check.

>>95879237
/tg/ used to be /d/-lite.
You have no idea how deep the degeneracy and coomer-ism goes here.
Where do you think stuff like tau girls having boobs started from? And why Sexualyeti still draws them to this day almost 15 years later?

>>95879319
>>95879314
seek help for your addiction muchachos

>>95879325
Man, I am so tired of my army being one of the of the only ones in the game with no CP generation AND no CP cost reduction.

>>95879342
Which army?

>>95879342
Eldar too?

>>95879337
Go back

>>95879295
You got your first one for free dingdong.

>>95879097
Suffering builds character.

>>95879273
>Titus initially distrusts the Eldar, as he should
>Over time he warms to them as he fights alongside them, all while Leandros warns him about their duplicity
>Eldar reveal their true colors and try to assassinate Titus because of a vague prophecy about him destroying their Craftworld
>Leandros intervenes and saves Titus, bit is mortally wounded doing so
>In the final mission Titus leads an assault against the Eldar leadership, with Dreadnought Chaplain Leandros arriving partway through to defeat the Avatar of Khaine
>The Eldar flee like cowards, with their Farseer cursing Titus over comms after he and Leandros finish off the Avatar
>Titus just brushes them off as Calgar arrives with a fleet to assault the Craftworld
>In SM4 the tutorial is finding and killing the Farseer as the Ultramarines tear the Craftworld apart

>>95879394
I cringed pretty hard reading that, well done

Ignore crying, post fat imperial bagingis and bagongos

>>95879417
Postan

Are there any requirements for the june vehicle?

>>95879436
paint a vehicle for the collage and don't be you-know-who

>>95879436
Wym requirements, as long as it's a 40k vehicle anything goes I think

>>95879417

>>95879457
like posting a wip or something

>>95879471
Well obviously it needs to be finished, what would be the point of a collage of half painted minis

>>95879394
As badly written as this is, GW would actually write a story like this if it involves Eldar.
>eldar have prophecy about muhreens destroying one of the few remaining craftworlds
>eldar create all the events that lead said muhreens to destroying their craftworld
This is 100% consistent with every Eldar story GW has ever written. Eldar are literally written to be 80IQ retards at all points.

>>95879479
I think he meant if you need to post a wip to prove you actualy painted it. I vaguely remember something like this being mentioned but I'm not sure and I don't feel like digging through the archives

So going to do a crusade starting at 600 points. I haven’t used my Tyranids in aeons so the thought is this:
One especially large trygon prime(pic rel) and some friends digging around under Armageddon eating biomass and generally causing a ruckus, vanishing quickly back under. Due to the rampant chaos happening all over the planet, this subterranean force has dwindled until only the biggest and cunning ones are left.

So the gimmick is this: packing a carnifex gang. Sucking them up to reserves t1 for 1cp, t2 they bust out along with the trygon, but “6” away . Everyone gets reroll to charge for 1cp.

Of course I haven’t read the Armageddon crusade book yet, only the review by g**nh*mmer , how many of the scenarios block deepstriking/reserves outright?

Anyway so here’s the goofy list: 600 points starting. Subterranean assault detach.
Warlord: Trygon Prime- -prime enhancement.
alpha strain carnifex (Old one eye)
2 carnifex with deathspitters, ones got crushing claws the other has Talons.

A biovore.

>>95879436
June submission done

>>95879537
beautiful little guy. see you in 15 days.

>finish painting a squad of dudes
>now for the character
>realize how little the workload is in comparison
Strange feeling, for what’s technically two different units.

Is it better to base a miniature then prime and paint or base a miniature after it is primed and painted?
Using sand and pva glue here if that makes a difference.

>>95879681
Do you plan on painting the base in your own unique colors?

>>95875757
Because they should be their own army and not just a something tacked onto someone else's codex

>>95879537
What color(s) did you use for the gun barrels, Anon?

>>95879696
I plan to give it a dirt brown and bone drybrush.

>>95874871
Did a test scheme on some Nids from the starter box a buddy got me.
Wasn't any of the initial ones I was thinking of but it just kinda came to me.

Just built my first batch of flayed ones.

The legs suck, but I think all the rest of the stuff people have problems with comes down to two things.

1. The instructions suck. They are easier to build in a different order than what GW shows and the legs and torso should be glued and then glued to a base first. After that, the rest is easy.

2. People use bad glue that doesn't hold well.

Better glue fixes most of the issues.

>>95879703
GW tried that, nobody gave a shit.
That's why they are in the corner of irrelevancy.

>>95879745
i am still staggered that people use anything other than tamiya quick drying extra thin cement

>>95879763
>there’s a quick drying version
I am now worried I didn’t buy that version.

>>95879763
I actually don't use this anymore because it gives me a strange almost allergic reaction, but before it started doing that I used it for everything. EVERYTHING.

Apply, position, done. Every time.

I have to use Revell contacta glue now, which also works pretty well, but yeah everyone should use tamiya if they can.

>>95879779
It's faster drying than regular but regular is also pretty quick.

>>95879713
Well if you plan on painting the basing material, it seems pretty obvious to prime it before hand

>>95879748
>one box
>three squad options with mono-weapon load outs
>too overcosted/under-powered
>didn't sell
Truly a mystery for the ages

>>95879350
>>95879349
Dark Eldar. No CP generators. No CP cost reducers.
Eldar at least have the Autarch for CP generation

>>95879804
Doesn’t the leaked name for the new Kill Team box suggest it’ll be SoS as one of the teams?

>>95879812
We also have Eldaddy and his very strong Warlock Conclave for some more.

>>95879707
So I originally did the entire gun with an Citadel Eshin Grey drybrush.
Did the copper with Army Painter Weapon Bronze.
The steel was Citadel Leadbelcher.

Second army T'au with no airbrush has certainly been a decision, but I think I've been making it work.

>>95877060
> tons unpainted
> the lion
> vahl
> all that armor
> the FUCKING MATCH PLAY DECK
this isnt a crusade, it's a slow tournament

>>95879804
>£37 for 5 SoS
>vs.
>£47 for 20 marines
Can't imagine why they didn't sell...

>>95879833
Thank you! It looks beautiful.

>>95879787
Mine has the green cap and green printing on it so maybe I am getting a bit worried.
I work with a lot of resin so I haven’t used the plastic glue in a while but I want to assemble a tank for this month so I’ll have to learn patience with plastic glue as you can’t just spray an accelerator on plastic glue to make it dry faster.

>>95879727
Looks cool anon
I think doing the jaws of sinew looks sweet on gaunts.

>>95879496
I recognize that toy. It is the "Snake Alien" from the mid 90's ALEINS toy line.

>>95879830
The rumour is wolf scouts vs chaos cultists

>>95877416
Half the lgs in this are are closed on fucking Sundays here.

>>95879856
It's sisters of silence versus pariahs. I will manifest this reality.

>>95879852
Thanks, I felt it would spice it up a bit.

>>95879861
>manifest this reality
I’m counter manifesting guevesa vs updated catachan.

>>95879856
>dead silence
>AWOOOO! vs FOR KAOS!!!!
How does that make any fucking sense?

>>95879868
Catachans aren't silent.

https://youtu.be/cA3PeFjAGKQ

>>95879856
If I am not mistaken, is that not a possible interpretation of the leaked name because the leaker forgot there was a Silence themed faction?

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>>95879959
>>95879959
>>95879959

>>95879727
The red pops well but I like the two tone dark and bone color set. I think you should build towards that more than the red parts. It sorta distracts a bit.

>>95876978
>just to clip the sight off the weapon
I always do this.
Thanks anon for bringing up one of the most cruel mistakes in modern space marine design. I'm not ironic