As cringe and godawful as this show was, I miss the threads we used to have for it, especially back in C2.
I miss the Caleb memes. I miss the Jester fanfictions. I miss the drinking games.
Now that there's a teaser out for the Mighty Nein show I have an excuse to post a thread, I guess.

>>96192865 (OP)
Sauce?

>critical role

>oh my god I'M GOING NEGA MOOOOOOOODE
The memes were great. Pic related made the rounds for a bit.

reddit's two blocks down

>>96192865 (OP)
Sounds fucking glorious. I'm sad I wasn't here during it's hayday.

>>96192865 (OP)
how did they make Nott sound even worse?

I watched Stranger Things recently (awful show) and it made me retroactively cringe at a lot of CR because it became obvious how often the cast was aping (stupid) stuff from ST

The most nauseating was seeing the link between Marisha's table pantomining for spells and the way Eleven "users her powers" in the show. Like an impotent trembling of a pointed hand, and a scrunched up serious face.

I have no idea what this is, but I saw the trailer on YouTube, and the goblin is very cute. I want to cum all over her face

>>96195568
fuck you

>>96195568
This.

>>96196616
Sam got throat cancer.

>>96192865 (OP)
>i miss being a massive nogames faggot
What, is the local gloryhole abandoned or something?

>>96196745
>her
Lol

>>96196630
>vgh....i hate that this dnd group was influenced by contemporary media
>by the way heres my aasimar fighter Pante, he fights with guns and eats pizza

>>96192865 (OP)
>performative hate of a popular thing
>all as an excuse to talk about it
>everyone calling it cringe is secretly obsessed and ashamed because the group think says they can't like it
>the group think likely made of other fans who are embarrassed that they like it
Sometimes this site is the stupidest place. Dumb kids too embarrassed to like 'popular things' insisting they only enjoy them ironically.

You like the show, if not directly, you like some aspects of it. Stop being fake. You're bad at being fake.

>>96192865 (OP)
You don’t miss Critical Role, you miss sharing something with friends under the auspice of it being a “tentpole” event. The same feelings you have for Mighty Nein could be replicated by going on a vacation with seven friends, or watching a concert, or spending a Saturday night in a lazy orgy watching the seasonal anime.

>>96197372
I know the fans are cringe cause they make threads like this, but I remain blissfully unaware of what the fuck Critical Role is even about

I don't enjoy the style of play that Critical Role popularized, especially since it infected my group
>DM goes on and on about the fictional lore of his world, sometimes for nearly an hour at a time ingame
>Many players are super flighty, wanting to run away the moment we encounter anything that may be slightly difficult
>Obsession with wanting to "chill" in sessions all the time, going to taverns and inns and stuff. We could just do that in real life!
It leads to a bit of a game cycle
>Arrive in new place
>Bit of mystery, it's cool
>Meet for NPC
>Monologuing
>Players want to know everything
>More talking
>Finally move on
>Arrive at place
>Empty, lots of books and statues and shit
>Say "I read them"
>More monologuing
>Finally move on again
>Reach evil bad guys
>Kill one or two of the initial guys
>Learn the true extent of what is going on, the stakes are high!
>Everyone bitches out and wants to leave
>Repeat

>>96192865 (OP)
>goth jester
Visually, what is the difference between a goth clown and a mime?

>>96197463
Mimes are fairly minimalist in design, I think

>>96197397
I like the anime unironically. It's my favorite thing to binge while stoned. The podcast games themselves though were never entertaining to me. I've seen some streamed tabletop that I do like.

I always point out on this goddamn board that normal tabletop isn't meant to be entertaining to an audience. Which is why idiots wanting to stream or record their games will fail, and why every show and podcast like this plays so differently. It's on purpose. They have to play differently. They are intending to be entertaining to an audience not just each other. So the pissants who wine that the latest popular DnD podcast don't play correctly are retarded. It's to your taste or it's not.

>>96196745
based

>>96197500
I admittedly refuse to watch the animation because the campaigns themselves disinterest me, but I can very much agree that the transition from a reenactment/re-reading of the tabletop events to an entire animated story can be pretty different. The transition of Record of Lodoss War and Chaos Dragon to their anime depictions was pretty big when you consider how much cutting out the out-of-character dialogue and sewing events together in a linear sequence unbroken by rolls or player chatter does change things up a lot in making it look more like an actual planned story instead of the random whims of actual humans playing a board game.

And I don't think I'd have the stones to stream any of my tabletop games. My party's shameless about what their "interests" are, and I don't think the world needs to see that.

>>96196745
Should we tell anon the truth?

>>96197500
>the anime
The cartoon*

>>96197559
I just read about this in the wiki and I'm disappointed, personally I think having her accept her goblin form and moving on instead of going back would have made for a better story but I haven't actually watched critical role so I might be talking out of my ass also I'm biased towards goblins

>>96197584
>I'm biased towards goblins
We know. Most pedophiles are

>>96197584
I find it interesting that becoming a goblin also made her behave like one. But I'm sure the creators wouldn't want to imply genetic determinism or anything.
>I haven't actually watched critical role
Neither have I, beyond a few animated clips online.
And fapping to some Nott porn.

>>96197463
mime cant talk

>>96197623
>visually

>>96197584
I'm pretty sure the majority of the /crg/ threads' denizens would've agreed. It's more interesting for character development to have a The Thing-like curse where you're put in a shit situation and have to come to terms with reality. But it's D&D, magic causes problems and so magic can un-cause problems, like race-swapping a cursed person back to their original race. So the lowest-common-denominator that wants or even requires a tangible change to show conflict resolution sees Nott turn back into Veth and is tricked into thinking a return to the status quo is progression. It's such a backslide on interesting character flaws that she basically had to be fiat'd into staying with the party instead of returning to her loving husband and child, going so far as to get them caught in the crossfire of fleeing angry wizards, dragged to the Fire Plane, and their child getting murdered by elementals, which led to maaaaany nicknames for Matt.

>>96197573
If you don't call it anime to trigger the weebs then you're not a real fan of the genre.

>>96197535
That's the thing. When you look at the people who do stream and their background they're mostly improv and comedy actors and radio hosts, people who can be entertaining without a tabletop game, who then make a TTRPG entertaining for others (with mixed success). The trick being that the games aren't actually entertaining when you're not part of playing them, and take effort to make so. So even if your group cleaned up their act to stream your games, it wouldn't be funny or fun to people watching.

Like if people here want to talk about cringe, CR is old news, it's legends of avantris that people are into lately. And while they're more popular for the little animated youtube shorts that go viral, I was surprised catching one of their streams and they were actually just generally funny and entertaining to watch. Cringe as fuck, but what comedy isn't. Like every TTRPG streamer they are not playing the way anyone else plays, but they're specifically playing to entertain, and they are entertaining. The game is just an excuse to roleplay dumb funny shit.

>>96197372
i liked campaign 1 cause it was fun.
campaign 2 became a parody of itself.
i think the technical term is "flanderized".

>>96197767
Sounds like you're getting triggered over it being referred to as a cartoon, chuddie

>>96197968
You clearly aren't a real fan then.

>>96197808
>it's legends of avantris that people are into lately
Tell me more. I don't usually pursue most tg streamed games out of apathy, so I'm curious what's the big deal with this one

>>96198073
They stream on youtube I think, I only caught one stream so I'm no expert on their overall quality, they don't seem to do DnD, and at first you think "oh it was just this one guy who was funny doing this one bit" then you realize they're all funny, they all can DM, and they're always doing a bit. Half of it's cringe, half of it's funny.

But the thing they went viral over were short clips from some of their games, usually roughly animated by someone. You can find compilations of those clips and see if you think they're funny, then check their streams if you're interested. If not, eh.

>>96198101
Sounds neat, I might check that out then, thank you. I do agree that most of these games are one of those "You had to be there" experiences, so I'd like to see how these clipshows hold up

>>96198067
I accept your concession

>>96196745
I know this is bait but who in the goddam thought it was a good idea to give her that faggoty voice, is not even funny?

>>96198175
Real recognizes fake.

>>96198216
Yeah, that killed my interest. I hope it's just because they're supposed to be drunk in that scene, but the comments were saying that it was the original player of the character doing the same voice he did in the game, and that's an awful idea for a show like that.

>>96195568
Reddit has moved here, evident by redditors like puckee

>>96198216
>>96198525
>goblin has a faggoty voice
I fail to see the issue.

>>96198525
The character is actually meant to have a grating voice.

>>96196630
Ugh, yeah that was painful to watch. And I say this as somebody who found the first season of Stranger Things fairly enjoyable.

>>96199399
>we made them annoying on purpose
not sure I like that

>>96199934
The entire point of Nott was that Sam, a dude, was playing a chick since everyone was otherwise always playing their own gender all the time. So you're getting Sam Riegel trying to voice a Goblin/Halfling chick.

>>96192865 (OP)
>>96193439
I'll try my luck by asking one last time if you have the sauce for the artist of that drawing that OP used.

>>96192865 (OP)
Say, does anyone happen to know if slavery exists in Exandria? Asking for a friend

>>96197631
You can see their lips move

>>96210089
It absolutely existed in early campaign 2, but mercer has probably removed it from the setting by now because zoomers freak out if the concept even exists in a fantasy world now. I can't recall if it's ever mentioned in the daggerheart book

>>96192865 (OP)
I just don't want to sit down and watch 100 episodes of 4 hour long DnD sessions. A significant chuck of Critical Role is just them shopping, double checking wording for spells, and trying to figure out what they want to do in combat.

>>96197463
Their performance

>>96198216
>>96198525
Being mad that a goblin has an ugly voice is like being mad that an orc is green. Sam Riegel plays a great drunk retarded goblin and I will not stand for this slander.

>>96207197
Why, are you horny?

lol

>>96210537
The problem is for nearly half the campaign that voice is also supposed to be a fat middle aged spic haftling and so it seems out of place then.

>>96210960
I liked the style.

>>96192865 (OP)
I miss the Fearne Porn

>>96196745
You and me both brother.

>>96197622
>But I'm sure the creators wouldn't want to imply genetic determinism or anything.
I likewise haven't actually watched it, but it's not like it'd be hard for them to square that circle by going into the idea that it was BEING TREATED LIKE a goblin that made her act like one.

>>96197315
Who are you quoting
No, seriously, who said this?

>>96211526
Pedocoded

>>96196616
Right? I'd hate to have to listen to that for any length of time.

I see for the Umbra series Liam yet again scripted his PC to another to get advantage, and to little surprise it was Laura again. I also saw that he still can't handle an honest character death, and Matt let him vanish instead. I bet he cheated every episode just as he did the 3 main campaigns. The guy is the worst.

>>96197722
>child getting murdered by elementals
He was brought back right away though without a single scar, or even being upset.
zero consequences Mercer strikes again.

>>96192865 (OP)
>Mighty Nein show
It just shows Critical Role has never been role-play, it's role writing. Liam's bloated backstory and goal requiring him to get to a high level made it clear the campaigns have scripted outcomes. They've always had consensual death. The whole cast is still terrible at encounters for a reason.
People early in C1 knew it was a fake game.

>>96214978
>Pedo
Jesus would you fucking freak retards go look at a kid? Shortstacks are not pedocoded you fucking retard. Notice the large breasts and well developed hips.

>>96224881
>>96225111
Here's your (you) samefag. I hope your wrangler comes back from vacation soon.

Shill me the critical role show, why is it good?

>>96211496
If only the artists name was in the picture or something
https://komunhorangi.carbonmade.com/

>>96225119
>Jesus would you fucking freak retards go look at a kid?
You'd like that, wouldn't you?
>Shortstacks are not pedocoded you fucking retard
Funny how everyone who says that ends up having a folder full of loli or CP on their hard drive

>>96224881
>Umbra series
that shit was so boring
>oh, DM is taking control for the 10th time during a fight

>>96210089
Bane is supposed to be the literal god of slavery in Exandria and is worshipped by the slaver Hobgoblin empire

>>96195285

>>96196630
Critical Role Campaign 1 started before Stranger Things existed, for almost a full year.

Critical Role stopped being fun when they finally ground out all of the SOVL from Travis. He went from heartily enjoying adventure and pushing for exploration/combat to doing backstory roleplay slop like the rest of them. He was the load-bearing player, most games have one.

I fell off campaign 3 when they were getting ready to rob a mansion or something. Baileys character being full on protagonist syndrome was insufferable.

Did they ever do anything interesting? it seemed like they wanted to cut ties with wotc to shill their own upcoming systems so did they ever swap over or something?

>>96225179
Hi Liam. I see you weaseled sitting next to Laura again for the live show.
Even hardcore fans on reddit are now pointing out you've done some creepy shit toward Travis' wife both in and out of character.
C1
>scripts that PCs are twins
>let's pretend we're married
>remember when we took baths together?
C2
>tries so hard to romance her character, her husband has to bend the knee to romance he was determined never to do, just to cock-block the creep at the table.
C3
>immediately hovering around her character like stink on shit

>>96197584
>Sam has backstory where goblins are rightfully, all evil
>puts mask on PC, but exposing huge yellow eyes. Wanting consequences
>Matt puts so many good goblins in his world, no one even bats an eye
How the fuck was Mercer ever considered a good DM?

>>96197397
it's performative dnd and a lot worse than that sounds

>>96211320
Could have sworn he softened the voice up a lot once Nott was Veth again.

>>96231344
Was the tribe that cursed her to be a goblin played as "good"? Can't remember. I know stuff in the eastern lands closer to the drow could have been rougher, though the armless goblin selling mounts at least came off a bit skeevy.

It's a common thing though, scrubbing gobs of anything rough. Even Warcraft has done it now, they have a "council" and the Steamwheedle which were kill-on-sight targets for 20 years are now led by a reformist. Boring shit.

>>96231574
>Goblins are good now
>Orcs are good now
>Minotaurs are good now
What's even available for minor-mid combat, anymore? Racists?

>>96231608
Just run it how you want. For me, orcs will always at the minimum be as violent as viking-age humans. As in... extremely violent and eagerly taking trophies off of enemies. But they'll also trade or farm, when it suits them.

But people forget orcs were Lawful Evil originally anyway, not sure how they devolved into drooling retards.

>>96231608
undead?

>>96231632
>not sure how they devolved into drooling retards.
Combination Chinese Telephone and Warhammer Fantasy. Introduction of Hobgoblins sealed Orcs into being the drooling retards.
>>96231636
I want something that bleeds when I stab it. Undead are fine but they lack the visceral thrill to fight.

Wait, don't you'all just decide what you want to use on your table?

>>96231679
Of course, but it's still pretty faggy of them to do what they did. I'm only griping because I'm on a site which encourages me to gripe, otherwise I'd never be touched by this because all my games are in other system.

>>96225616
something you wanna share with the rest of the class, anon?

>>96235274
Yeah
Your hard drive

Started listening to vox machina while I work. I enjoy it and know enjoying it makes me a faggot but I don't care.

Campaign 4 just got announced, what do we think?

>>96237453
Honestly I think Mercer stepping back from DMing and playing instead is a great step. I think he was burnt out and I think he'll wake the group more serious and less focused on stupid edgy tropes as a player.

MR. PRESIDENT A SECOND GOAT HAS HIT THE LIVESHOW

>>96236706
Shhh don't let the miserable old cunts hear you

>>96237453
Hyyyped af

>>96237453

I think this will be the beginning of the decline into one of those youtube backroom channels. One of those channels that has a long standing consistent enough audience to provide the company with revenue to run indefinitely and in obscurity as it's newness and relevance steadily fades, and the people who started it get replaced with people no one even knows. Like Rooster Teeth or Game Theory.

And that's fine. Entertainment is always changing and nothing lasts forever.

Let's plays need to move on from the Critical Role monopoly.

>>96237453
I’ll give it a go, but I doubt anything will revive the campaign 1 magic for me.

>>96237453
So they're going to have at least 7 players at the table, or is someone dropping out? They never did grasp DnD, and have been struggling to learn their own creation that is specifically geared toward theater kid/playwright wannabes. I doubt Mulligan will call them out on cheating. Liam would go apeshit. In 10 years, Ashley and Taliesin will still be acting like a deer in headlights when it's their turn. This isn't going to go well.

You people are everything wrong with the hobby. At least with their shitty rpg the rest of the theater kids plaguing this hobby will leave and D&D can finally recover.

>>96238215
D&D can't recover under WotC. They are clueless. see >>96225111 picrel

>>96238215
Anon what are you on about you don't even play games

>>96238276
I play D&D 2e like god intended.
With none of the woke garbage cluttering up the game.

>>96238301
Dude your retirement home sounds cool af

>>96237453
Matt stepping down as GM and presumably a soft reboot of a setting means the show is dead to me

>>96237453
>New setting
Ew, probably Daggerheart of some of the shit they need to promote
>New DM
We'll see
>Player Matt
Alright
>"lovely familiar faces and some new ones"
urgh, the worst part of C3 for me are those first episodes with Robbie Daymond. This is what happens when transforms from a group of friends playing and into a business. I'm expecting C4 to be the shortest campaign. More like a 1-1.5 year one instead of a 3+ one.

>>96238215
>At least with their shitty rpg the rest of the theater kids plaguing this hobby will leave and D&D can finally die again
fixed that for you

>>96238773
not only is Daggerheart generating 0 interest from me but if one of the core group drops then I'm not watching a minute of it

So what kind of pc do we expect Matt to create? They say DMs make good players, and he is one of the goats. I'm genuinely interested to see what he cooks up.

>>96238204
If Sam or Travis drops out, then I'm not even gonna bother with C4.

>>96192865 (OP)
I just read that campaign 4 will have Brennan lee mulligan as the DM. Wild. Can't believe that it will be three years long. Then again, they record the episodes in batches now, not weekly. Curious.

I hope the players do a better job than in downfall and Divergence

>wowowoWOAHHH QUIRKCHUNGUS IN THE HOUSE!!!
done irreparable damage to d&d's playerbase

>>96237453
>what do we think?
>we
You clearly don't

No idea who this new DM is, I don’t watch any D&D content anymore. What should I expect, is it worth giving it a try at least?

>>96238884
he seems to love dwarves and has played a dwarf two times now. The first one was a dumb, good hearted himbo divine blood sorcerer, the second one a down to earth gruff and honest smith dude who loved his work and his people (started a level 0 with commoner statblock, no class)

>>96240539
Sure, check out their minicampaign with Brennan set in the last 24-48 hours (I forget) before the Calamity and end of the "high age of fantasy" setting. Pretty much universally lauded as the best thing to come out of critical role. I don't want to hype it up that much, but it's good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlIkkeWmVvA

It is fairly different from what he normally does, since he usually works with improv actors. A lot of the shows are up on youtube, at least from the earlier seasons. I'm honestly not sure what people think is the best show to enter as a newcome, but you could just start with season 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zZxCVBi7-k&list=PLhOoxQxz2yFOcJoLoPRyYzjqCbddeOjP4&index=2

A benefit is that entire season (and the sequel) is on youtube.

And, I will say, Brennan actually knows how to write cultures and conflicts based on actual history, and knows how to write bad guys besides "lol evil wizards" whereas Matt only know how to worldbuild by ripping off video games.

>>96240539
Brennan when it comes to his work for Critical Role is actually pretty fucking good. Even better than Matt, i got to say. He found just the right balance between humor and drama and violence, which in a medium and players like these, can be really fucking tough

>>96240539
>>96240628
>>96240658

But will the overarching message be "Capitalism Bad" like a lot of the Dimension 20 stuff?

>>96240539
Brennan's specialty is shorter campaigns, D20 is usually like 20 episodes at most per season. I'm hoping that he takes that pacing to CR because I can't stand having a month in a row again where we troll around a city doing shopping and light roleplay with a token combat encounter thrown in. Give me plot, pussy.
Also Travis loves how he runs games and Travis has the best taste in CR.
>>96240874
Did you miss all the "capitalism bad" stuff in CR 1-3 retard?

I remember watching campaign one a long time ago. But the backlog is just so gigantic I couldn't keep up with that shit. I remember feeling very awkward with the weird looking bald guy Dragonborn also.

Anyway then they started doing Campaign .. 3? I think. Everything new and fresh. Ashley Johnson was back when a character called Fern who I thought was super funny, but again I couldn't keep up with how long the episodes were.

Point is, how do you guys keep up with this and watch it? Should I try Campaign 4?

I have never played DnD in my life, I don't like woke shit, I'm currently in the middle of C2, and I find CR content rather enjoyable.
Great stuff to listen to on the background while I pretend to work.
Have no idea what Daggerheart is, but it doesn't matter, I will be here when C4 drops.

>>96225616
>loli
Nta, but loli isn't pedo. Its 2d drawings of fictional characters which by their own nature are not and cannot be human beings, ergo they cannot have human rights, ergo they cannot be pedophilia

>>96241002
Did you start from C1?

>>96237453

That Brennan guy gives away some heavy pedophile aura, I do not like him at all. You can tell he is up to something.

>>96197584
>I think having her accept her goblin form and moving on instead of going back would have made for a better story b
she has a kid and a husband, of course she would try everything to go back to them you fucking insensitive faggot

>>96241385
>outspoken commie
>works for corpo overlord and his content is pay to view
a classic Californian

who will the mandatory dyke pairing be?

>>96241934
me and your crush ;)

>>96231222
>Even hardcore fans on reddit are now pointing out you've done some creepy shit toward Travis' wife both in and out of character.
Sauce?

>>96240539
CR didn't become popular based on the strengths and weaknesses of Matt, so comparing DMs like you've drafted a star player in your fantasy team makes no sense to me. For a lot of people, the show was entertaining because of the chemistry between the players and also because they obviously bought into Matt's world and style of DMing. That obviously changes if you bring in a new DM, promise a change of cast (?) and a lot more new guests. I highly doubt the new campaign will fill like CR anymore despite being called "C4" and that's not criticism of the new guy who might possibly be better than Matt but that's besides the point

>>96237453
Matt might play as a god, so he can Deus Ex DM from the position of a player as needed. I think that would be fun.

>>96241934
>dykes
>not gays
its coming

Honestly, Brennan seems like a normal guy who just so happened to get surrounded by Californians. His mother wrote for Heavy Metal. All the "anti-capitalism" stuff seems so put on for the audience. Same with the other big podcast DM, Brian Murphy, who is actually a bit of a hardass on the rules and 'fun allowed' bullshit

>>96239498
Where did you see the length?
>cast knows how long campaign will go
People will still say it doesn't have PC plot armor and scripted/rigged outcomes.

>>96244781
Do y'all not talk about that in a session 0? "Hey, I have this much story planned for the campaign, I think it should take about 30 sessions, we meet every other week, so we should be done in just over a year" was what I went over with my current group

>no details about the campaign yet
They're trying to soften the blow by not announcing it won't be D&D but Daggerheart, good luck to the next DM for having to use a system most won't be familiar with

>>96231608
white men

>>96244797
You sound like a control freak

>>96241959

>>96244797
Not really, no. That sure as hell isn't how Campaign 1 worked for the CR crew, particularly when they started. It was a bunch of voice actors getting together to play D&D, to give Liam something to take his mind off things. Then it became a show.