Thread 96260754

Empire Edition

>Resources:
WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwh
WM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgeba
WFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6
Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H

>TOW:
https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXS
https://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/

>Warhammer Chronicles:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip
>Time of Legends:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip
>The End Times:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip

>Alternative Models:
https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL

>Previous Thread
>>96247918

>Thread Question
What are your hobby goals for the rest of the year?

>>96260754 (OP)
>tq
actually finish one of the nearly hundred kitbashes i began

>>96260742
if its possible to transfer the curse why doesnt astragoth do it then?

Should Cathay be the protagonists of TOW?

>>96260797
>human faction
Yawn…

>>96260754 (OP)
Finish up my dwarf army. I have over 2k units built and primed but I'm a stickler when it comes to using unpainted models. Gonna play some more games since I'm back from vacation but I will want to finish the army fully before the end of this year.

Also I just started painting a unit of longbeards (6th edition ones that I got 3D printed). Need some motivation painting 20 of these old fuckers. I airbrushed all of the silver but damn I've still got a lot to go through.

Skaven video games Ideas: Just for fun Possible video games Ideas in fantasy or age of Sigma where you play skaven.
>>96260903

>>96260826
Kind of a dragon faction.

bro where the fuck is mo yang?

WTF is up with these bipolar prices? They were $157 USD just yesterday!

>>96261101
I assume different sellers, the cheap one probably got bought.

>>96261101
>>96261124
That and high demand compared to the relatively low supply. GW probably only made a few thousand of these, and there are way more people who actually want it.

>>96261129
Few thousand is probably over selling it. I wouldnt put it past gw to ensure a fomo effect to get people to buy the individual kits and ignore the discount altogether.

>>96261101
I can tell you that these were not sold out 3 weeks ago. They got restocked as soon as all the initial pre-orders were shipped. If I had to guess, it's probably a bunch of Horus Heresy refugees that decided to jump ship to Old World after seeing that HH 3.0 was basically fucked.

>>96261159
I think the hh community would rather just stick to 2.0 before giving gw more money

>>96260797
Protags are and always will be high elves.
They had to step up and do the lizards ONE JOB for them with the Vortex to stop chaos from destroying the planet
Everything else was actually filler

>>96261164
Some of them probably did, seeing that it's the last of the 4 mainline Warhammer games that GW hasn't fucked with yet. Hopefully OW will continue staying small just like HH was in the past so GW won't mess with it.

>>96261186
sure buddy

>>96260754 (OP)
>Read vampire wars trilogy, kino
>Reading Sigmar series
I love whfb books bros, 40k sucks shit

>>96260797
Since they are the only competent faction yes.
But the setting doesn't need a protagonist

>>96260797
Ying Ying is already a protagonist in her own anime, so no.

>>96261159
It is really funny how badly the fucking space marine release bombed while the random Chinese dudes are still in high demand despite their army being absolute dogshit to collect.

>>96261682
Raaroo!

>>96261713
Saturnine marines don't look that great.

>>96261739
Oh. I thought he was on about space wolves.

>>96261758
Possibly but those would also be only for space marine players of certain taste.
Saturnine could at least be used for all legions.

Inside every gook there is an empire man trying to come out.

>>96261810
>Inside every gook there is an empire man trying to come

>>96261153
Anon how the fuck could non-limited boxes have a fomo effect.

>>96261153
The "under produce to drive up prices" theory is the dumbest shit in the world and I'm sick of seeing it repeated. Assuming that they're intentionally under using their production capacity is retarded since it implies either

A. They, for some reason, increased the production capacity without actually intending to utilize it which makes no sense.

B. They're using the production capacity to over produce kits that aren't in demand and thus aren't selling instead of kits that are in demand and do sell.

>>96261837
You have people wanting the box even more now that it looks like it’s barely getting restocked right? Presumably when Cathay gets the individual kits out it’ll still be out of stock and people will settle for non bundled kits, in fear that will get snatched up too.

>>96261921
Doubt it, the discount on the box is too good.

>>96261739
They're still marines, the cretins that make up the bulk of the GW consumer base can't get enough of buying marines.

Ogre anons; how are you going?

>>96262099
Even marinefags have their limits.

Is Old World Builder busted, or can't I seriously give my Chaos Knights any Marks of Chaos? It's greyed out in the menu, what's happening? I want to run full Mark of Khorne on everybody.

>>96262234
You absolutely should be able to give them a mark

>>96262234
you need to uncheck the undivided box to be able to select a mark

>>96262256
>>96262260
I'm regarded, thank you lads. Just needed to uncheck.

Im kinda stumped with how to approach this high elf 1k list im aiming to collect using oathmark models so advice would be appreciated, i have a noble on a griffon with a sword,shield and heavy armor(undecided about what magic items to give him) and a mage on a horse ,but i dont know what would cripple me more,only taking my infantry units in units of 10 for this 1k list,or ditching the mage but being able to take bigger infantry blocks

>>96262266
We are all a bit regarded from time to time

>>96260754 (OP)
Post them unique characters you're working on

WIP bretonnians.

>>96262347
Healthy looking peasants Anon

>>96262325
Not really unique per say but here is a Gor with a mutated tongue

>>96262439
And who can forget Gor of War

>>96260754 (OP)
Keep the fag art outta here

>>96262609
Can you actually fuck off? What do you contribute except this smut
Worthless crap that drain's men's vitality

What do you think are the best STL ranges?
I like the tomb kings infantry, cavalry and chariots from Highland Miniatures but not much else

>>96261159
>>96261713
The random Chinese dudes with a bare minimum army are also dominating in competitive tournaments despite appearing only 30 times.

>>96262857
>dude Cathay isn't broken!!! they drew against Skaven in some random battle report that a fat retard called Steve played!

>>96262857
Let it be known forevermore that I called it and you all told me I was stupid.

>>96262857
>>96262872
>>96262875
>sample size 30
>nobody knows how to play against them yet
You're all fucking retared. It will average out with time.

>>96262878
Uh-huh. We'll see! Hey, hey anon? How do you play against durable and fast shooty flying units? What's your strategy there? Enlighten us, Sun Tzu.

>>96262878
Also, most importantly
>(((competetive)))
Might as well go back to /aosg/ or /40kg/

>>96262885
I just spam Greatbow Ushabti :)

>>96262680
oh no don't drain my vitality

>>96260754 (OP)
Girl Greatswords should still get a Cod Piece, its part of the Uniform. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

>>96262953
Actually they get overexaggerated boobplate for the same reason men get big codpieces

>>96263016
They have dicknipples?

>>96262953
No it would look stupid and feminist

>>96263035
Wouldn't it be misogynist?
The women have to pretend to have big dicks to be taken seriously as fighters.

>>96263032
Fuckable milky lipples

>>96262872
>if you bring 10 lanterns, cathay is broken!!!!
Retard

What warband would you play, if Mordheim ever came back?

>>96262680
They're trans just move on

>>96263220
I have come to hate "Carnival of Chaos" due to overexposure.
Carnival of Chaos overexposure AND Nurgle overexposure.

Nurgle is Reddit

>>96263220
Maybe Sisters of SIgmar, although I'd probably go third party models

very horny third party models

>>96263220
I thought there were more factions than those though.

I understand why the designers never could express much imagination with Khorne.
I understand why the designers never could express much imagination with Slaanesh (for different reasons).

I do NOT understand why the designers never could express much imagination with Tzeentch.
It really doesn't seem that hard to come up with new stuff for him.
They've been stuck on "birds and magic goop" for 40 years.

>>96263285
those are the core ones, there are a tons more that came from WD articles, and then more that were fan created

>>96263285
MANY, and I repeat MANY people think that everything that was published on the Citadel Journal is "not canon" and it is "fan stuff published by Games Workshop" but still not canon.

>>96263285
Many people think that the lists published in Town Cryer Magazine are not canon.

The argument is as follows:
the magazine is not a magazine where Games Workshop writes things, they just approve and publish things created by fans, and therefore none of it is canon.

Make of that reasoning what you will. I think the logic doesn't hold up, it has the Citadel stamp of approval.
>>96263302
I don't think there were lists in White Dwarf.

>>96263304
>>96263329
That just doesn't make any sense.
How can the material be approved and published by GW (or subsidiaries), through official means, and *still* not be considered canon? Those people are mental.

>>96263329
>the magazine is not a magazine where Games Workshop writes things, they just approve and publish things created by fans, and therefore none of it is canon.
You could say the same thing with WFRP books and those are considered canon

>>96263381
>You could say the same thing with WFRP books and those are considered canon
That can be contested desu.
Most of it can consensually be called canon, as long as it doesn't contradict any material that's directly published by GW.

>>96263406
It's the same logic as BL books and even old Forgeworld books back in the day, GW themselves didn't make them, but it's a canon source which does lead to issues when GW contradicts stuff like the Lords of the Lance book

interview with the head of C7 where he talks about the future TOWRPG releases
>https://www.wargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world-rpg/upcoming-releases-interview

>>96263329
Fuck's sake.

1. WD background is definitely canon. Half the background for the game first appeared in White Dwarf.
2. WD rules are not 'core' and are subject to player approval. Most of the articles explicitly say this.
3. Fan armies and miniatures published in WD are not canon.
4. Battle reports are usually not canon, but some exceptions exist. There are some characters and events that first appeared in battle reports that went on to become incorporated in army books (c.f. Helmut Feuerbach).
4. CITADEL JOURNAL is the fan material publication. Rules are considered less 'core' than WD. Background is not canon.

>>96263606
Forgot my main point.
6. Town Cryer was a mix. Early material was published in WD. This stuff was WD-equivalent. Later stuff was published fan material, basically citadel journal-tier. It's worth distinguishing.

>>96263619
While we're at it:
7a. WFRP 1e and the earlier books including TEW and the Realms of Chaos books were published by the GW studio
7b. Mid-WFRP 1e books were published by Flame publications, an in-house subsidiary like BL
7c. Late WFRP 1e books were published by Hogshead, a third party with the license.
8. WFRP 2e was published by Black Industries, an in-house subsidiary.
9. The last 1 or 2 WFRP 2e books and WFRP 3e were published by Fantasy Flight Games, a third party licensee.
10. WFRP 4e was published by Cubicle 7,, a third party licensee.

Take that how you will, but GW is very thorough in vetting anything through third parties. Honestly, they're probably more thorough than they are with in-house material. WFRP books of all editions are usually much better researched than BL material is (with one or two exceptions).

>>96263685
>BL material is (with one or two exceptions).
Are you thinking of specific exceptions, or was this more of a generalisation?

>>96262132
Into the grave, infantry changes fucking suck when you have to charge to get your value

I think /tg/ for the most part thinks Town Cryer is unofficial (I disagree)

>>96263260
I don't like how all the modern stls for sisters of Sigmar simplify the boobplates.

They're MEANT to look like they're out of a Wegnerian opera featuring valkyries, that's the point

>>96263606
>>96263619

>CITADEL JOURNAL is the fan material publication. Rules are considered less 'core' than WD. Background is not canon.
>6. Town Cryer was a mix. (...) Later stuff was published fan material, basically citadel journal-tier. It's worth distinguishing.

what is the criterion here for excluding these things from canon? Where does this rule come from?

>>96263698
Karak Azgal has some fuckery in it. Ironically this was early 2e, so BI.
Doomstones is wonky in places too, probably because it was a converted D&D adventure.

But I'm also covering my ass, because you can always find something retarded if you look hard enough.

>>96263730
There's no written law (Maybe an IP lawyer might say otherwise).
But in practise, subsequent authors will try to stick to army books more than BL books and will completely disregard anything from Citadel Journal.
Sometimes it all comes out in the wash of history - some studio author may completely overwrite some old piece of background, but it will be well-liked enough for later writers to bring it back. In the end you have a web of material referencing itself - material that has been referenced repeatedly is pretty hard canon. Material never mentioned is peripheral.

>>96262325
Making a custom counts champion for my greatswords to be more wild for my ostermarks.
>>96262857
We all knew but the shills
>>96262878
That's not how averages work tardo. It could even be more lopsided in time
>>96263016
All empire men would be pornstars in our world

>>96263811
>That's not how averages work tardo. It could even be more lopsided in time
Stop trying to sound smart, because you're proving the opposite. I didn't say anything about wether they're balanced or not.

>>96263260
People like you are the reason hobbyists get a bad rep, have some self awareness stop jerking your pickle 24/7

>>96263869
>person says they are way above average
>Anon says no it will average out
>another anon points out that's not how averages work
>uhhh wah wah wah
Also obvious samefag>>96263879

Bait used to have effort behind it, only (you) you'll get tardo.

>>96263791
I mean if we start referencing one of the most peripheral and obscure elements of a publication, and it becomes popular online, maybe as a meme, the likelihood that new authors reference it increases.
And at that point it wouldn't necessarily be a "reintroduction" or "the moment it becomes canon", it would in fact be a callback to old obscure canon.

I don't believe that unknown and obscure tidbits of lore are outside of canon until they are acknowledged widely.
In fact I think it's the opposite: unless they are retconned or amended directly, they remain floating in a dark corner of canon (inside of it).

The thing I posted as a picture is canon, the mechanoids of El Drongo are canon.

-

This is in fact important, because Games Workshop published on the Old World website a map of Estalia, believing it to be such an old obscure tidbit of canon lore.
Instead, it was outside of their ownership, a fan creation. They had to hastily remove it to avoid lawsuits.

If that map was in the Citadel Journal, or in a late Town Cryer, they could have kept it instead.
Now there's the distinction between "official canon" and "non-canon", a real legal distinction.

>>96263902
The ironing is plappable from this post.

>>96263914
you're plappable, your big dummy

>>96263912
Yeah, there's IP law and the precedent and tradition of canon and they're not the same. Sometimes the latter even wins over the former - Arianka has been referenced repeatedly (i.e. 'is canon') despite GW not owning the rights.

It might be worth comparing with the original biblical canon, which is just the body of work a community accepts as legit.

>>96264030
Yeah it's usually
>anything GW writes trumps BL
>BL can extend Canon but can't overrule existing Canon
>community can add bits or readings or stories that aren't considered Canon, but not really not Canon. Ie your dudes exist as long as you wish them to and they don't break any lore, but aren't Canon.

>>96264030
>It might be worth comparing with the original biblical canon, which is just the body of work a community accepts as legit.
This is the way.
If you like it keep it. If you don't, discard it.

>>96262878
By the same logic, nobody also knows how to play as them yet, either.

>>96264391
Who has more experience? The guy who wplays 6 matches, or the 6 guys who play against him?

>>96264391
Yes. If you see online, feel people taking lots of the big things like balloons or sentinels do poorly. It's the people bringing what feels like two of the Battalion plus shugengan and foot hero that do good.

Following his battle against Cathay, Korgoth encountered a roaming babd of Dwarfs, lead by a Thane on a shield.

Playing with 3 strategic points, the Khorne army lined up to prepare for a co-ordinated advance and gain some victory points.

The Dwarfs were having none of it though, tearing apart 3 chaos ogres, 10 marauders and 5 hounds in short order, annihilating the Chaos right flank.

It was all or nothing. Korgoth lead an all or nothing charge with both Chosen Knights and Hounds into a Hammerers unit. Calling a challenge, it was met by the Thane.

After 3 gruelling combat phases and some really lucky rolls for Chaos and unlucky for Dwarfs, the unit broke and was run down, Korgoth having received 2 wounds by the Thane and taking his head upon the pursuit.

The Dwarfs then attempted to attack the Chaos Warriors, repelled a gyrocopter, rangers and ran down the warriors after a failed panic test.

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

damn that ban on the uk did some damage huh

>>96264726
yeah this general is way slower and also shitter since all the bongs left

>>96264653
>Sounds like a fun match, dorfs are scary but id imagine chaos has the output to beat them in melee at least. their thanes or w/e hero level are called are amazingly tanky for their cost I've learned. Let the blood flow!
>>96264726
it started slowing down once the cathay hype died down and the misery posters stopped flooding
>>96264857
several brits have posted. this is the normal speed of the general between releases

which is the zestiest faction to play as?

>>96264726
>Brits banned
>People start posting models
Weird innit

Well for me it's simple.
Its pretty evident that everything that GW directly & indirectly released, whether through core books, expansions, WD issues, and even publications via Fanatic magazine, is canon; everything else made by fans, or further tinkering made by the Mordheim devs (if done outside GW), is not.

>>96263353
>How can the material be approved and published by GW (or subsidiaries), through official means, and *still* not be considered canon?
GW is the same company that wouldn't let you use forge world figures in their stores.

>>96264884
Got lucky to be fair but yes the blood flowed well! Humorously, Khorne struck Korgoth with stupidity for a second game. Fortunately he was in combat and the one test they needed to pass, they did.

>>96264930
>Well for me it's simple.
So simple that we have to add a new category to the discourse named "Deuterocanon" where the purely fan made "Forest Goblins" sit alongside "Arabian Tomb Raiders" who were published on Games Workshop's "Town Cryer Magazine".

It seems to me that you people are doing all sort of mental gymnastics to exclude Town Cryer from canon.

>>96264930
Everything is canon

What I personally and arbitrarily don't like is simply canon about some in-setting hearsay

>>96265048
>in-setting hearsay
for example, a failed wizardry student turned gambling drunkard will ramble about how the wheel of magic is bullcrap, and that magic is actually cubic
but then again, he also says all words are cubic too
he's always either extremely lucky or extremely unlucky with his dice, never something in-between

>>96264930
>primary canon
the actual material, rulebooks, novels, etc
>secondary canon
videogames, retconned and unconfirmed stuff
>tertiary canon
cool fanmade stuff

>>96265035
It really is simple. I used the term "Deuterocanon" (or secondary canon) since it works really well in the biblical context.
Whilst not found in the Rulebook , the 2002 Annual, nor in Empire in Flames, they are still of great importance and canonicity.
>purely fan made "Forest Goblins"
Mea culpa. At a first glace, I thought it came from the Nemesis Crown material; when it (and other factions as I know realise) was in fact NC fan material. I'll have to be careful the next time I use Broheim for an easy research.

>>96261739
I boughted a pair of Saturnine marines to build as World Eaters for my first ever 40K model purchase. Might just be horny for fuckhueg models but I love them. My normie stoner friends want to try 40k anyway and if I get them into OPR firefight now I might propagandize them into playing Mordheim later.
>>96263220
>Came back
Don't even say it dude. The world's largest ever Mordheim meets have happened over the consecutive past two years, it's not dead and a GW "official revival" would be an absolute disaster for whatever communities exist currently. The blood bowl revival was a fluke, nuheim would pan out more like necromunda did.

>>96264911
that doesn't even make sense retard

Post some Pygmies.

>>96265521
>So cosa sei

>>96265439
Mad? Or no models?

what happens if you order cathay recasts from chang?

>>96265743
dont, the recast resin is toxic

>>96265684
>the presence of British posters prevented people from posting models
or
>British posters meant no other nationalities were present, who would've posted models
both are incredibly retarded lines of logic and you should kill yourself

>>96265428
From my experience as a zoomer I can say that in Mordheim and WHF young blood is scarce, but not absent. Me and a friend of mine recently joined a Mordheim group after years of looking for one, for example.
In my experience (for reference: we started playing when we were in high school) the main issue is not getting people to play the game, but to make them keep doing so: it's all fine for a handful of games, but the moment you start asking for investment problems start to arise, and rightly so. This is how it went every time we tried to get a new player:
"These games were really fun!"
"Right? Isn't the campaign aspect awesome? You can keep playing with our models as much as you want, but since we don't have things suitable for everything that's on the warband list you could have to buy a few."
"Ok, where do I find them?"
"If I'm not wrong GW still has- no, they're discontinued. Maybe the store in the city center has proxies... They do! But it's not in stock, and since this manufacturer sells very little you're gonna have to ask them to order it, and it could take months for it to arrive. Otherwise you can buy this proxy online from this Spanish company with a sketchy-ass website... Oh, it costs MORE than what GW charged for the original model..."
I might add that when you're 16 the notion of buying things on online stores is usually reserved for exceptional stuff, and when you factor in the fact that you don't have a lot of disposable income and that every purchase you make on webstores has to be approved by your parents, and if 90% of the store plays one game that has no crossover with what the 2 weirdoes are proposing and that requires already a massive investment, especially for a teenager, it's no wonder that younglings usually don't play Specialist Games. And don't even get me started on how hard it was to get people into TRYING Epic.

>>96265829
Wait but the militia box is the mordheim box and that's back in store shelves.

>>96265743
You get recasts

>>96265482
Reminder that pygmies are extraterrestrial aliens.

>>96265829
With TOW things have started to change, but not by much.
If it came out when we were still teens it would have been awesome, but for better or for worse we were cursed to grow up in the Dark Age of Warhammer Fantasy.
A new Mordheim could make things easier, since changing rulesets is far simpler than finding models for the Carnival of Chaos, but I worry that it could have the Necromunda effect, and making it impossibile of playing anything but the newer (and likely far worse) version.

>>96265853
Yes. But it came out a few months ago, and I'm talking about my experiences i High School. Now I'm finishing Uni.
As I've already said: TOW improved things, but at the time it was hell.

I am now taking refuge here until they let me back on /twg/, to the faggot who asked us to move over there you wish has been granted

>>96262885
It doesn't out damage single target artillery from range that's around its points value.

>>96264391
If one guy in a group of 100 plays cathay against all other 99 guys, those 99 guys only have one game of experience against cathay while the cathay player has 99 games of experience.

>>96265829
Fair enough, I think you're right about everything. For what it's worth I started Mordheim in a similar position to you, as a teenager in nogames upstate NY. For models it was mostly Lego men and handmade paper cutouts and shit, later was able to get Reaper miniatures for my favorite characters, but I generally found that I had to provide my friends with the models if I wanted to get them playing. And the campaign aspect is 100% a hard sell when people start bitching about the paperwork, you're right, although the right subset of players seem to power through it.
I'd hope that a current-day Mordheim kid would buy single minis for each model they want from a non-GW source, just so they don't blow cash on GW prices. I know that these purchases are still a big deal for a kid without income but I'd hope that those cheapo Wizkids minis or something would provide an avenue... And that online shopping would make it more accessible for the new generation as well. That's another thing I like about the existing Mordheim community is that every event I go to, nearly every single warband is exclusively proxies and conversions. (And the online Instagram scene, which is the visible part, expresses this) It's a shame when GW's "entry level" offerings via specialist games are still Kill Team tier, which is to say massively expensive. Mordheim is, in my optimistic view, a living community where you get the rules for free and everyone actively encourages you to use the cheaper offbrand models or otherwise kitbash it up. The lack of corporate mischief has a nice DIY feel and helps filter out the nonsense.

WHERE?!

>>96263260
wrath of kings nasir might be useful

>>96266060
I used to not be keen on these, but over time their feminine virtues won me over.

post dudes

>>96263220
I'd roll up a band of thieving slightly inbred Ostlanders, with weird accents, and have a Vampire with his retinue of guys with different weird accents as my spare band.

>>96265809
Sounds like both.

>>96266060
Those would make some fat ducking nuns.

>>96266155
Only got 3 built so far and in various stages of completion, but starting a Tzeentch warband so I can take a break from nurgle and undivided.
Might buy a battalion and start a khorne gang next to complete the set idk.

>>96265982
Upstate NY is still nogames to this day, have to drive several hours to even find someone who owns models

>>96266142
they're uniquely rubenesque while many other coomer minis look far too plastic
>>96266264
it might be hard to see, but novice 1 and 2 are quite muscular and they're the only ones with bare arms. we're comparing layers of cloth and armor with spandex and thongs, but that makes them perfect for greenstuff

>>96265982
>I know that these purchases are still a big deal for a kid without income
was incredulous until realizing my summer jobs were before the 2008 crash and covid. i have no idea how bad kids have it now

>>96263260
>very horny third party models
You can't say that shit and not post the sauce.

>>96260754 (OP)
>TQ
I'm not sure how much progress I'll make but I want to get a bunch of 6th ed spearmen, replace the heads, hands and feet to add a bit of height to them. If the process doesn't drive me mad I'll probably do a full Empire army, but we'll see.

>>96263879
anons like him are based because they scare away the foids from corrupting the hobby

>>96266685
foids have already corrupted the hobby

>>96266741
purge them zased goon anon

GAMERS
I NEED GOBBO QUOTES AND SAYINGS, STAT
IDEALLY FROM BOOKS OR WHATEVER
I NEED TO ROLEPLAY SNEAKY GITZ AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF THEM IS LIMITED TO WARHAMMER 3.

>>96266416
You're forgetting the fact that in the last 10 years GW prices have shot up way faster that either Inflation or Cost of Living.

>>96260754 (OP)
>>96260754 (OP)
>>96260754 (OP)
I love Empire

>>96267099
>empire is as racially diverse as a modern big amerimutt city

>>96267110
Only in the eyes of idiots like Andy Law, who add it to their non-canonical version of the setting

>>96267092
true, i haven't bought anything new in years. poor kids, they'll never even build piles of shame

>>96267110
is that a problem?

>>96266060
Just imagining what the people that actually buy these look like disturbs me. Normalize antagonizing them if they actually show up in public

>>96267110
FWIW, this map is by Andy Law who has worked on Warhammer and WFRP a lot. He also does a podcast with Loremaster of Sotek called Lorebeards. He's not going to make many mistakes about Warhammer lore

>>96265521
source?

>>96267037
wegh

>>96267099
The Holy Roman Empire was a little bit like this while it controlled southern Italy

>>96266264
I see these pics posted on /fit/ fatloss threads

>>96267037
Read their section in the Old World Bestiary, it's fantastic fun as is the whole book

>>96266264
A /fat/ bro?
>>96267246
Another?!

>>96267110
T. Anon doesn't know the phenotypes of Nordic slavs and germans.

>>96267110
other than making ostlanders ungol-kurgans whats the problem?

>>96267255
>>96267224
Wicked, thanks anons. My reason for asking is because I'm going to be doing Pathfinder's "Burnt Offerings" adventure set in a small Averland town, and the first session has the goblins ambush a festival while singing a "goblin song." I'm trying to get the right cadence and tone for the song, so far I've got.

>Knick da baby, smash da 'ead!
>Ain't no fun when dey iz dead!
>Make da humies lose they wits!
>We iz gobbos, sneaky gits!

I'll need at least three more stanzas, but I've got that as the last stanza since the "original" song ends with "We are Goblins, you are food!"

>>96267204
>>96267117
I really don't want to rain on your parade, but Andy Law has his fingers deep in the guts of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. His word holds significant weight. I've been listening to Lorebeards where he discusses lore with another guy (Sotek, don't know his expertise in the industry) and so far his "faggotry" is pretty mundane. The most eye-rolling thing he did was express annoyance at Grandfather Nurgle being ascribed masculine qualities because "Daemons don't have genders." Whatever.

>>96267488
I'm not watching anything with basedtek in it, sorry
Andy Law is guilty by association

>>96267263
>>96267246
>warhammer players
>fatty thread frequenters

checks out

>>96267512
okay wtf how did that get autocorrected to based
I have to be getting trolled
testing this again
basedtek

>>96267527
Cute newfriend

>>96267527
He’s based. It’s true, even your subconscious mind can’t deny it.

>>96267534
is that just a /vt/ thing? I swear that's never happened before

>>96267542
*/tg/ fuck

>>96267255
that's the book where a guy name epstien joins a slannesh cult so he can do that thing epsteins like to do right

>>96267542
newfag! Everyone laugh at the newfag!

>>96267542
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHA! AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA! NEWFAG! NEWFAG! NEWFAG!
Welcome to the club, bud.

>>96267164
>is that a problem?
Show me the melanated gentlemen in Grand Cathay.
Westerners have a fetish for BIPOC people shoved into their history, it's faggy but it's even faggier to gunk up this thread with the discussion. We know exactly where it would go.

>>96267595
>Show me the melanated gentlemen in Grand Cathay.
I dont think cathay is based off of the han dynasty.

>>96267527
Faggot
>>96267595
Isn't an ogre in their offical scheme pretty dark?
Just wait for the c7 book to open up their ethnicity. Or not to really complain.

>>96267110
Eh, he goes a bit far with the brown Ostlanders, but they are supposed to have somewhat asiatic features.
Otherwise, I appreciate the effort. The Empire is huge and represents a confederacy of many different tribes.
I kinda wish they put some more detail into local dialects and languages in the Empire. It seems like the kind of place that would have had dozens of unique languages before some Emperor decided to eradicate them.

>>96267164
WE WAS LANDSKNECHTS EN SHEET
In all seriousness, the Empire canonically has a colony in Mallus' Africa so it's pretty cromulent to have black Empire soldiers.

>>96267638
>Or not to really complain.
I'm not really complaining, I'm being prickly. There's a difference. I'm not going to start an argument but god forbid one starts.

>>96267664
Iirc most the tribes were pretty similar I'm culture and language- think early medieval germany/late antiquity central Europe.
That said i wish there was more polities, like little religious enclaves and more cities like Nuln. Would make it more interesting I think then to add different dialects and outlooks.

>>96267751
>That said i wish there was more polities, like little religious enclaves and more cities like Nuln
Isn't this already the case? Solland is big on worshiping a Sun God (Soll, go figure) while there's little Taalite-majority towns all over the place. And then you get stuff like Middenheim and Salzenmund which are described as distinct from the greater Province they exist in due to their urbanization.

>human “lore”
Zzzzz

>>96267760
Oh, and I forgot to mention Carroburg, which used to be the big ancestral seat of the Drakwald Emperors (who are descended from Miao Ying).

And Praag, which is it's own whole thing.

Anyone here make any custom standards? I'd like to see some (especially those that would represent magical standards/BSBs) for inspiration.

>>96267772
Lizardmen are cool.

>>96266416
I mean in the states you can make 18/hr being a lifeguard, so I would say kids have it pretty good

>>96267092
The prices per model for TOW models are cheaper than WHF models were 10 years ago

>>96267793
Praag is kislev but yes, all these exist but are as of end times all subsumed into the main electoral provinces. Like iirc only nuln is a city state at the end. Soland/drakwald are subsumed.
Old world being an anarchy felt like they could have had more break up but instead we have essentially 5 provinces (the south being neutral ish).
Tbf nothings really been fleshed out either tho.

>>96267110
>Mediterraneans and Mongolians in europe??????? What is this the 4th century?????

>>96267595
Anon they've already showed off cathay miniatures in a variety of skin tones.

>>96267751
In WFRP 4e the elector counts are statted as having their native tribal languages: Emmanuelle von Liebwitz speaks Merogen, Marius Leitdorf speaks Brigundian and Boris Todbringer speaks Ancient Teutogen.

So they did at least have their own distinct languages. Although they might be closely related.
Realm of the Ice Queen says that the Ostermarker and Ostlander dialects owe a lot to early Kislevarin too.

>>96267186
why? they're more clothed than the diaz daemonettes and slightly less than witch elves

>>96267862
I always interpreted it like how Saxon, thuringian, angle/jute, etc were all largely intelligible to eachother desu. Maybe later lore has this to be more pronounced but I thought Reikspiel would basically get you through any provinces. I'd imagine the modern (for warhammer) times have each language move closer when earlier tribes may have been far more distinct.

>>96267835
Check out Archives of the Empire 1. There's a few mentions in there about freistadts and also smaller polities such as the Protectorate of Drakwald, the March of Vennland, the Archduchy of Upper Teufel, the Westenmark and The Northern March.

So at least as of 2512 lots of smaller states exist, albeit within the structure of a larger Grand Province.

>>96267929
Reikspiel is supposed to get you by. The one exception is Wastelander which is the language of the Wasteland (Dutch, I guess). Not Marienburg, incidentally, which speaks Reikspiel for trade reasons.

I figure you go to any major town in the Empire and everyone speaks Reikspiel with funny accents but as soon as you go off a side road in Stirland everyone starts speaking some nonsense local dialect and arranging their calendar by lunar months with a festival every 16 days that involved dressing up as a fish and challenging outsiders to an improvised poetry battle.

>>96267099
This map has always been cool to me. It's the first time that showed off how big the Warhammer World is supposed to be. Each state has its own unique culture and people, and this would be true of anywhere outside the Empire. Plus I'm a sucker for old National Geographic illustrated culture maps. I wish other places got something like this.

>>96267981
Interesting, I 100% will check it out. Does it have anything for ostermark? I've yet to figure out how to name my dudes and regiments as ostermark. I've reas that they did take wives from other tribes and have kislev (ungol mostly) blood too but they give a czech or Hungarian (this moreso) vibe. Any insights by chance?

>>96267488
lol he literally went full SJW purple haired neurotic bitch on forest goblins and their indian flaire, ranting about cultural appropriation, seeing indians as savages and how it's terrible and needed to do change because we need to do better

Need to find a way to connect these two in a manner that looks like it makes sense - thoughts?

Quickly painted a wraith in one go for a game tomorrow.
Played 1.5 for the first time last week-end with a big block of grave guards and it was kind of disgusting. Rolling a 5+ regen on unstable losses is crazy good.

>>96268040
Unfortunately there isn't much because at the time the book is set, Ostermark is a vassal of Talabecland, so it only gets a paragraph.
Some of the Freistadts mentioned are in Ostermark, like Eisental or Essen. Although presumably Ostermark should be almost entirely Freistadts, as it is a league of free towns.
Ostermarkers in official material tend to have the same kind of name as all other Imperials. But then in reality many Hungarians used germanised names, so maybe Wolfram Hertwig is actually Hartvig Volfram or something.

>>96267516
I am down 130lbs and fit as fuck these days. I just like giving advice and encouragement to others so they can make the change too.

>>96268134
Makes sense. Yeah I planned on basing my army out of Mielau (the aurith river patrol) which is sort of close to Esiental and the kadrin road and would draw mostly from small hamlets and places along the river. I'll probably read up on transylvania germans to get some ideas for names I'd towns/leaders/regiments names. Thanks anon!

Finally got some bases

It's MOOing time bitches

>>96268102
just do a bunch of chains connecting it to the chariot, and have the guy riding it holding onto one too. Some real bashed together shit, no regular harness is going to hold a daemon back

Good lord these fellas are lørge

>>96267682
Not in the Old World time though, haven't been founded yet. It's possible some could travel to Araby and then to the Empire from there, but you'd probably never see a southlander unless you lived in Marienberg or maybe Aldorf or Nuln.

>>96262901
kill yourself

>>96268206
Love me some cork base and your minos are shaping up well.

Do musicians/standard bearers have the same weapons as the rest of the unit?

Building Ironguts and they all have greatweapons, as the models themself cannot hold the great weapon but a shitty club/cleaver, will they only count as hand weapons?

>>96268671
They have whatever the rules say they have

>>96268671
All command models count as having the weapon the unit is equipped with unless you buy a 25pt sword for a champ, or in the case of motley crew you chose to equip them

>>96268677
>>96268679
thank goodness I need to reread the rulebook again I think

>>96267542
Sorry to tell you, anon, but you've got an advanced form of the mindrot. Don't worry, someone will be around shortly to process you.

>>96268926
Anon this is a khorne chariot not a slaanesh one

>>96268940
that's specifically why it works to make the jugger run faster in fear of it

on a slaanesh chariot it's basically a brake instead

>>96268926
Impact hits d6+2( 1 must be directed against itself)

>>96268974
A true juggernaut would turn around and bite it off

They're definitely going to release a new Slayers kit around the time of this AJ, right?

>>96269002
a true juggernaut isn't a bitch boy for a normal charioteer to begin with

>>96269019
hopefully
but most likely no

So what's the point of having a Regeneration Save if you already have a better Ward Save? You can't use them both, so why even have the Regeneration Save in there?

>>96269078
>You can't use them both
yes, you can

>>96269096
What! I thought you had to pick one?

>>96269055
True but I'm putting a chaos lord on the chariot hence the choice of beast of burden

>>96269019
No, why would they?

>>96269019
I think current one is already perfect but it is at the "stupidly priced metal kit that will inevitably go oop" price point, no doubt it'll happen eventually

Name an easier colour to paint than red.

>>96269317
blue

>>96263220
Already got a Reikalnd Band and a Skaven one.

>>96269317
Green, Brown, Purple, Blue

>>96267099
>>96267110
iT iS a fAnTaSy setTiNg

>>96269428
I still think that the setting being somehow twice the size of the earth is a more infuriating notion to digest than this.

>>96267488
>>96268041
Frankly the setting can be memed into we want it to be be so why not have it be based

>>96269441
Because you’re definition of based is cringe no models.

>>96267465
I read that in the 'this is what Bilbo Baggins Hate' song.
https://youtu.be/3gv1qnPAiSI?t=27

>>96267595
(((Westerners)))

>>96267527
T. Secondary newfag
Lol

>>96269157
No, it's armour, then Ward, then regen. You get 3 saves.

>>96263220
>>96269363
And my Skavens

>>96269440
I always saw it as Earth, but throught a 'magic lens' hence why it was shaped differently...not suddenly twice the size

>>96269451
you made a spelling mistake and are therefore the big retard

>>96262448
Kek

I know some people have a boner for metal models but the need to have a bunch of different grades of sandpaper to clean them up is tedious compared to resin or plastic

>>96269503
>get metal dwarf runelord
>moldline right along the helmet
>think I shaved it all off
>prime it + basecoat
>line still there
Now my character looks lazily cleaned. Oh well.

>>96262325
Sure. Here are a some conversion from the bloodbowl team:
>miner champion with drill
>melee Thane in the style of the old Ironbreakers
>dragonslayer with 2 weapons

>>96269545
You're not meant to give up at this step. Just file more and prime more
Happens all the time

>>96269549
Is that a necron gun

>>96269428
That's because the Chinks will actually stand up for themselves instead of being a polite doormat like the Japs. Oh and here's your black samurai for whenever GW decides to add Nippon as a playable army.

>>96269592
Nobody plays Warlords of Nowhere..I mean Erehwon, what a lame, game system purely generic setting to throw modles at each other.

>>96269617
That's from Pike & Shotte. The Yasuke miniature comes with the book.

>>96269641
Still an unintresting game to me, morale-based game without models removal? Where's the action of seeing your 30 man regiment down to 7, still holding the center?

>>96261159
>HH refugees
I thought GW solved this problem with the Legacies PDF release?

>>96269675
When have legends ever fixed anything? If that actually fixed things people would just play older editions but they won't.

>suddenly get a mail that the tomb scorpion is back in stock
>don't even remember hitting the notify button, must have been like at least half a fucking year ago

Rate my banner /wfg/. Anything I could do to improve? Is it enough or could I do something else to really it make it pop? My freehand skills are nowhere near good enough to do artwork.

>>96269576
Yes, a gauss reaper with a couple of chain bayonets.

>>96269880
Please stop
Just stop

>>96269825
I think it's fine. The white text looks a bit too white I think. I'd go over it with a wash for something to darken it a bit.

>>96269549
neat

more than mining equipment that thing looks made to cut through plants
maybe you could fluff it around that and make it some piece of equipment to get rid of nasty roots, especially near athel loren

to drive home that idea you could cut 2 small piece of paper in the shape of pixie wings and have a spite stompted under his foot or that tactical rock (or the rock could be painted as bark instead?)

>>96269929
god damn!

>>96267817
Go fuck yourself.
Also, it may be true for some TOW sculpts, but every other game has reached ludicrous numbers.

>>96269929
Absolute kino

>>96269955
>metal
Cost of production of metal miniatures has gotten very expensive in the UK. There were some retarded laws passed iirc. That plus labor costs going up makes plastic a much cheaper option than metal.

>>96269955
You are like little baby, watch this.

>>96269666
It doesn't deal with small numbers like 30 or 7, each unit represents hundreds of men. It's a larger scale of conflict than what TOW depicts.
Also individual casualty removal will always be cancer.

>>96267164
Why not just give an official uniform scheme for Sudenburg, the Imperial Enclave in the Southlands?

>>96269451
kys faggot

>>96270067
>why not [do something that requires effort and fleshing out thr southlands]
Come on.

>>96267981
>I figure you go to any major town in the Empire and everyone speaks Reikspiel
One of the WFRP books even tries to give examples of it, but it doesn't really work as it is a bit too vague by trying to be universal rather than more specific or give real regional examples.

>>96267772
Human website

>>96270155
>anon
>human
lmao

>>96270155
beastman thread

>>96267037
>SHUT IT DOWN, DA UMIES KNOW

>>96264930
>>96265315
Updated the pic; there shouldn't be any more mistakes on it (I hope).

>>96261186
This.
Total high elven supremacy!

>>96269231
because the new AJ has an army of Infamy based around Slayers and the currently available Slayers kit is older than most human beings currently alive.

Also Slayers are one of the most iconic Warhammer things and a new plastic kit for them would probably be super popular

>>96270443
YWNBAE

>>96270445
No that many people like slayers. Otherwise they would be more popular in AoS.

>>96270480
I think a big problem with slayers is that they don't work on the table, so the idea of building an army around them is moronic.
I mean they're cool, full of character, all you want, but they're unarmored expensive slow infantry.
Infantry that doesn't work as an anvil has always been underwhelming.

>>96270480
The problem with Fyreslayers is that their army has like four kits in it and the basic troops one is possibly the ugliest plastic kit GW currently sells.

GW tweaked their design for a Warcry gang and the universal response was, damn I wish the whole model range looked like that

>>96269592
Young chink men are extremely fuckable.
Does this have to do anything with this topic? No, but it's plus

>>96270504
>make everyone's skin darker and add women
>4chan loves it

My forsaken are almost done.

>>96269929
trying an uploadable format

>>96270504
to be fair, the helmets on these guys are a straight downgrade

the problems with fyreslayers kits isn't really the design, it's the stiff wonky poses
the actually ugly designs are in the hearthguard kit with those overdesigned pikes and flails

>>96270587
The designs are pretty bad too.

Done

>>96270707
Only 75 left to go anon.
Then 40 storm vermin.

>>96270554
yeah, that's how much better they are than the old kit
>>96270587
Yeah the poses are a fucking nightmare, but I think the little skirt on the Warcry guys is a huge improvement to their silhouette. It's also an easy way to give the model a sense of motion, something the sculptors clearly struggled with on the old kit.

I like the simpler helmets on the basic guys, leaving the more ornate sculpted dragon helmets for characters and elite units, but that's just personal preference.

>>96270576
ABSOLUTELY KINO

>>96270693
False.

>>96270714
>but I think the little skirt on the Warcry guys is a huge improvement to their silhouette
It makes them all look like they have tiny stubby legs

>>96270554
I think the only good "Black Dwarf" I've ever seen is this Forge Father from Mantic.
You really get the feeling he's a small "brick shithouse", almost a Michael Clarke Duncan vibe in a small package.
You can't do a "black Viking" vibe like they try at GW, it looks stupid.
Black dwarfs should be full Nigerians who eat elephant meat and have ten wives each.

I have yet to see a good bearded black dwarf though, these clean shaven ones look a bit off in fantasy.

>>96270774
>I have yet to see a good bearded black dwarf though, these clean shaven ones look a bit off in fantasy.
Behold, a black dwarf and his orc wife.

>>96270576
Soul-overload my man

I really don't like that TOW has canonized humans being creations of the Old Ones. It feels like everything gets attributed to the Old Ones, and they end up feeling boring because of it.

>>96270833
Holy shit why did they think dwarfs made their armour out of bent sheet metal? Aren't these meant to be top tier (albeit evil) artisans?

>>96270869
Well they can't use hammers because they're a symbol of Grungni so they have to get creative.

>>96270878
Do the loretists ever actually think about the implications of this symbol-wank lore?

I mean for fucks sake they made a cult of sigmar that refuses to use wheels

>>96270492
What's the matter with slayers?

>>96270833
This one kind of works actually.
"Monsterdwarf" and "Stalwartdwarf" though are two different aesthetics, I have yet to see a black african dwarf with a long beard that somehow captures the "stern, defensive" vibe, who would look good with a serious expression and a big shield.

Maybe I'd give them fake beards made of gold that may or may not have a real beard underneath.

>>96270973
I'd just repeat what I already said in the post

>>96270839
That was always the case, although it went back and forth between them being full creations or being uplifted cavemen.
I actually thought TOW gave more evidence for the cavemen idea than before.

>>96270884

>>96270992
What's ya point?

Seems the difference is that this has an ironic ending where the retarded element undoes itself for being so retarded

>>96270878
Shouldn't these new Chaos Dwarfs not be allowed to use Swords then, since Swords arethe Symbol of Gazul(who GW even mention as an active ancestor god in AoS)

>>96271012
My point was a humorous anecdote taking the line of reasoning to its absurd conclusion.

>>96270833
> She got a PHAT ASS
> ugly pig face
It fits

>>96270504
>black female dwarf slayer
Peak AoS.

>>96269428
>picrel literally has artists saying how there's a variety of skin tones

So we're getting southern realms?

>>96269955
Belive it or not anon but metal minis were insanely expensive back then too.

>>96271103
maybe

>>96270749
Anon they do have tiny stubby legs, they're dwarves

>>96271122
So imagine that but now it's two times as bad,

>>96271140
>>96270576
Holy fvckin' sovl...

>>96270774
Just do pygmies. Though put in some effort to use their real life culture and mythology so you can be called respectful instead of racist

>>96270576
Fantastic anon. More of these please

>>96270989
I can't read. Thanks. Shame honestly, thematically and conceptually they seem good. But very easy to avoid.

>>96270869
cad (clanker assisted design) always looks like shit compared to hand-sculpted works of art made by flesh and blood hands gifted with a soul.

>>96271210
I don't think there's anyway to do pygmies respectfully enough to please pearl clutchers.

>>96271140
Add the Liveleak watermark
(maybe it'd look better with Cathay infantry)

>>96270992
Don't bother replying to a secondary who's only connection to the hobby is being angry

>>96270884
>I mean for fucks sake they made a cult of sigmar that refuses to use wheels
That stuff is cool/fun. There were all sorts of weird cult movements in Europe in the period being aped by WHFB.

>>96270570
Looking good
>>96270576
That's awesome man, really enjoyed it
>>96270707
Nice rats

>>96271470
>in the time period bring aped by whfb
I think that anon is referring to the cult of the wheel from aos, although aos is basically a (doubly so) post-apocalyptic setting, so whacky millenarian sects aren't exactly out of place there either.

>>96271580
>whacky millenarian sects
If there's anything a setting can benefit from, it's more kinky sects.

>>96270576
Powerfully autistic, I love it very much anon well done.
>>96270715
Lovely anon, is this your first foray into fantasy?

>>96270576
Now this has SOVL.

Should I build my foot Knights as Sword and Board or with Great Weapons?

>>96272029
I think the great weapons look ugle

>>96271935
It's an existing army I'm adding stuff to.

>>96270576
This thread is not worthy of such treasures.

>>96269929
The slightly desynced sound effects immediately reminded me of early 90s DOS games. Love it.

>>96270576
jesus christ the soul. fuckin saved.

I’m not a lore junkie, so I don’t really get it. How does Skaven society exist if they are constantly fighting each other and backstabbing other yet they also have a council and clans that coordinate and cooperate… but don’t because they keep killing each other?
How do they still exist and not just wipe each other out especially with other races wanting to wipe them out?

>>96272598
The big clans are too big to wipe each other out so there's an equilibrium with fighting at the margins or through proxies.

>>96272598
Skaven are poorly thought out part of the setting. Like "as many elves as the plot requires" cranked up to 11. The less you think about it the better..

>>96272598
It's not like they're literally at war 24/7 and constantly murdering each other so that a council member can't even finish a sentence without getting bumped off.

>>96272598
so just like humans irl but with clans instead of countries you mean?

need some modeling advice, how would you guys fill that gap in the legs/torso?

>>96273029
greenstuff/sprue goo which you pick with a toothpick to texture like chainmail

or the severed and bloody head of an enemy acting as drink on the road

>>96272606
Oh
>>96272784
Oh
>>96272839
Oh
>>96272876
True, these elector counts gatta get their shit together

>>96272598
there are LOTS of rats, so it doesn't matter how many die, there are always more than enough for their society to keep functioning, and infighting is also one way to keep their society functioning, since when that happens meat will be back on the menu

the people that want to wipe them out don't really act on it because they don't have the means or even the know how to realise such a plan

the clans and individual rats in charge are impossibly rich/powerful/influential/resourceful, having multiple layers of fall guys/fall clans, and ways to counter assassinations is their bread and butter, the rest of the rats will successfully kill each other, but they won the rat race, they get to have the prize

also the cooperation of the council is kinda imposed and regulated by agents of their literal god, so there's a measure of outside intervention in keeping things afloat

you should also separate the archetype stereotype from the implied practical reality, a clanrat won't go stab his neighborhood baker at the drop of a breadstick, he might want to do so, he might think about doing it, like many real people think unreasonably inhumane things at the minor inconvenience, but won't really act on it in most cases
the same applies to many other strata of skaven society, with every skaven having his own "starscream" and being in turn a "starscream" for someone else, but it will take quite a few sunday mornings episodes of treacherous musings before they actually end up trying something, if they ever do, because skaven at the end of the day are as megalomaniac as they are cowardly.

>>96273246
what about tamiya putty? or should I just run to the store and get greenstuff

>>96273332
I imagine half of the few failed assassinations that are actually attempted end up with Starsqueak snivelling and grovelling about misunderstandings, with Rattatron telling him it's his fourth last chance and leaving it at that because he's too busy planning the demise of his own boss, and he still needs meatshields like Starsqueak to accomplish it... for now.

>>96268041
He also doesn't like how the Fimir reproduce.

>>96268041
>>96273687
His worst crime is being an elffag and a vampirefag.

>>96273687
>He also doesn't like how the Fimir reproduce.
What a faggy lorelet.
He deserved to get traditional Fimir love.

>>96273798
Is this a Fimir for Ants?

All this Empire discussion(and the 6th Ed halberdiers I just ordered off ebay) have inspired me, what books(WFRP or WFG) have the best/highest quantity of Empire fluff? Preferably stuff with a focus on more minor/unexplored areas.

>>96272598
>constantly fighting each other
kind of a meme, they spend more time plotting then actually doing anything. In the old world timeline they're at the tail end of a massive civil war, but once that ends they pretty much form a fairly stable empire. The winners at the end of this on going war will stay in power all the way to the End Times, with the exact same leaders I think, so they're honestly pretty stable. I'm sure there's small wars between all the warlord clans. but the 4 great clans and the ones on the council have that shit locked down, despite all the scheming.

>>96273687
How did Fimir reproduce before humans came around? They rape dragons and dinosuars?

>>96273840
They raped each other.

>>96270839
The old ones are just GW

>>96273687
I was surprised how reasonable he was about the Fimir. He said he actually liked the background for them.

The only place I actually disagree with him is that he thinks writers have a responsibility to prevent retarded children from putting other people in uncomfortable positions.

Personally, if a twelve-year-old is describing how his friend's character gets raped by Fimir, the Fimir are not the problem. There are some basic social rules that kid should have been taught and wasn't.

>>96273335
Any sorta putty should work fine as long as it doesn't need to heat cure or something.

>>96273825
Sigmars Heirs and Archives of Empire vol 1, for a general Empire overview and Salzenmund City of Salt and Silver for Nordland in particular, are interesting.

>>96269462
>I read that in the 'this is what Bilbo Baggins Hate' song.
Got the whole thing finished, I'll probably revise it later but this is probably the final draft since session's tomorrow.

>Gobbos shoot n' gobbos stab!
>Gobbos hoot n' gobbos nab!
>Gobbos sneaky shade o' green!
>Watch these Gobbos gettin' mean!

>Knick da baby, smash da 'ead!
>Ain't no fun when they iz dead!
>String 'em up and take dey bits!
>We iz the gobbos, sneaky gits!

>Feast n' burp n' eat 'em all!
>Crack dere marrow with a maul!
>Watch us hunt n' skin n' neck ya!
>WE IZ GOBBOS, WE'Z GUNNA GETCHA!
Song is immediately followed by the goblins running into what was an otherwise very pleasant festival held in Averland, stabbing and gutting anyone they can get their murderous little mitts on.

>>96273798
Based and Fimirpilled.

>>96274050
Based. Very in character for those cheerfully sadistic little fuckers, got the tone perfect. Good characterization like that makes the players care.

>>96274302
The PCs are veterans of goblin fighting in Pathfinder, this is their first encounter with proper Warham Greenskins. I’m aiming to make it memorable!

Which means lots of Little Waaagh magic and poison.

NEW THREAD
>>96274688
>>96274688
>>96274688
NEW THREAD

>>96262347
Part and parcel of living in Mousillon

I was intending to "finish" (there'll be a few models left in my pile but enough to make 2k with variation) my Ogres this week, so that I can move onto getting my chorfs up to 2k, but I found a WHFB mod for eu4 and that's been distracting me.

>>96274749
>literally named Mouse-illon
>ratmen central
Who could have known!?