Agents waifu edition

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>>96289870

>Thread Question:
How did you decide on your army scheme?

Post your most recent conversions :)

>>96294783
I don’t have any conversions

>>96294783
Post that model primed and basecoated and maybe I will

Showing off the Black Templars Psykers hate retcon.
This is from 6th ed.

>>96294789
do they have psykers now or what?

>>96294789
This is from 10th ed.
Why did GW do this? Why do they hate wholesome stuff?
Stuff like that makes me want to quit 40K and play AoS in protest.

>>96294783
imagine being so mindbroken by a guy posting his kitbash twice that you're trying to falseflag him like this

>>96294789
ab whore the witch

>>96294806
Lol

>>96294806
Why would you make that assumption.

>>96294774 (OP)
>How did you decide on your army scheme?
>Orks
Always liked Deathskulls, so went for the blue and white. Helps that I think its a nice look for the models
>CSMs
Wanted to try out something with metallics and after a few test runs decided I liked the gold armor with silver trim best. The reverse also looks good but then its just Iron Warriors and I wanted to do <My Dudes> instead. Also got some Word Bearers because I like them
>Dark Eldar
I actually tried the metallics on Kabalites first, but didnt like the results as much there. Had just used the Skeleton Horde contrast on some random fantasy stuff though and liked how it came out, so decided to try it on Kabalite armor and liked the results.

>>96294806
Generally the people who freak out the most about seeing a model they've already seen before are the laziest hobbyists who paint less than 10 models a year.

>>96294818
probably because he posted it twice and the second time you had your little tantrum about him reposting it and then every time after that it's the same 4chan filename

>>96294818
The filename you peanut

>>96294806
I'm the one who posted that and falseflagged
and you're wrong about my intention, I posted it again because it pisses off the other people here, which is what I find funny, you're retarded to think I did it because I'm mad, I'm trying to make other people mad, thats what brings me joy, moron

How do I pin models?

>>96294789
>>96294803
Still somehow not the worst thing they've done to astropaths.

>>96294783
This is how we lose posters because of assholes like you impersonating people and shitting up threads.

>>96294837
Anon I don't care if that guy posts his fancy servo skull every day. I was just asking why you thought that but i hadn't noticed the filename. You're probably right now that I can see the receipts

>>96294843
>get wire cutters
>get box of paperclips
>cut them and superglue them into holes drilled into pieces with pin vise bit the same size as paperclip

Isn't Grimaldus supposed to be a good-natured Black Templar guy? I remember edits posted about him being kind to some guardsman

>>96294842
I blame your worthless shitty parents for this more than I blame you, honestly.

>>96294855
He had a moment of understanding for a guardsman but that’s it. Hes still going to prolapse a guardsmen from his stomach if need be.

>>96294803
Doesn’t the head navigator on helbrecht’s ship have a super exclusive room that even helbrecht himself needs permission to enter?

>>96294862
Yeah, my dad was always there for me, but never THERE for me, ya know?

>>96294855
I dunno, I only read the lore on the games workshop store page. Everything else is longwinded slop. Store page makes him seem fairly inoffensive

>>96294854
Dope ty

>>96294855
I don't want Black Templars who are secret nice good guys at heart. I want Black Templars who are unreasonable fanatic assholes bifurcating things with chainswords and yelling about the emperor.

>>96294847
>This is how we lose posters
Nta but we don't really lose posters unless they get bored of the hobby.

>>96294882
Like this?

>>96294789
hows it a retcon exactly?

>>96294873
Yeah, it shows.

>>96294891
And this?

>>96294893
>astropaths and navigators are well treated and respected as having communed with divinity
>astropaths and navigators are begrudgingly tollerated and kept in chains and cells when not needed.

Its pretty clear to anyone with eyes anon.

>>96294899
More of this?

>>96294905
Can't attitudes change as time progresses, especially given the great rift is a thing now?

>>96294875
>I only read the lore on the games workshop store page
Unfathomably based

>reading The Silent King
>Guilliman straight up says that if circumstances allowed it he'd align together with the Eldar fully
>even against his father's wishes
wew lad

>>96294891
>a harvest of youths
What a gross choice of words

>>96294803
>guy who needs the utmost mental health care to not turn into a beacon for demons that explodes killing potentially everyone on board
>lets make fun of him, cover him and shit and keep him locked up in a cell with his own thoughts

Surely nothing will go wrong.

>>96294931
It’s black Templars it makes sense

>>96294935
If anything goes wrong, it would validate the Black Templars' beliefs. Isn't that nice?

>>96294891
Yes. There are a lot of qualifiers in there, 'can' and 'may' etc, that make it clear wholesale purging of liberated planets is somewhat rare. But it still happens. Probably for cult infestations that are too far gone, or that sort of thing.

A votann vs GSC boxset would be sweet.

>>96294958
There is a Kill Team box for that match-up.

>>96294944
Or Templars got a bit too butthurt.

>>96294958
I don’t get it

>>96294965

>>96294854
Oh shit it actually worked lmao. Thanks a bunch anon

>>96294958
Votann need more variety. I think the faction has potential but they need to refine the look a bit more.

>>96294965
You spelt 'shitters' wrong. Also yeah, purging anyone exposed to a khornate chaos outbreak is classic BT and probably the right move.

>>96294958
A killa kan wearing baggy pants and cool sneakers boxes would be cool

>>96294978
They need to overhaul the robots

>>96294984
Read the next image.

>>96294994
No thank you

>>96294993
>They need to overhaul the robots
Y-yeah..

Aside from knights and custodes, is there any other decently fun elite list armies? Haven't played this edition and I already have basically 4k points of DA. I know there's deathwing spam but I'm looking for a small new army or marine gimmick without spending a grand like knights would seemingly need.

Posted in /wip/, but getting back into the hobby after about 10 years away - decided to make a small Crimson Fists army (fists still need go be made crimson on these dudes.)

>>96295011
I think 40k mech looks better than 30k though

>>96294929
Guilliman is literally just the self insert for not retarded good aligned strategy gamers. Him asking "why must everything be shit all the time" is good narrative contrast to show the reader how shit everything is all the time.

>>96295013
Darklegion has a pedro kantor recast for 11$ if you're looking for one down the road

>>96294978
So it's no contest right? This has to be the worst "flight stand" they've done so far right

>>96295021
I’m holding out/hoping we get a new scale remodel of him since they just updated all the other classic chapter master sculpts, probably won’t happen for a year of it even does though.

>>96295025
Bad stand for a bad sculpt, tracks

>>96295013
I would've chosen gold trim myself, but they look alright for first basecoats back

>>96294994
I did and I like it. It's all the classic tropes of humanity in 40k, accentuated. The zealous, self destructive fanaticism is what makes 40k an interesting setting. Without that it's just boring ass good guy space knights shooting bad guy aliens. Your screenshot wall reads like you need to share morals with a fictional character before you can appreciate them, which I hope for your sake isn't the case.

>>96295039
"probably the right move."
Just pointing out it wasn't.

>>96294978
Sekhetar are cooler

>>96295012
Grey Knights are as elite as you can get without going into Custodes. They just got their codex too

>>96295036
I need someway to differentiate from ultramarines besides just the red hands! but thank you Anon. I was worried everything was too thick honestly. I’m scared to wash them after all the base coats are on since I’m so out of practice. Here is a shitty picture of the very first unit I did a couple months ago. Fucked up and forgot to make the sarges head red so I’m just saying in my head red is for vet sarges and since this dork is primaris he gets the silver skull but hasn’t been around long enough to earn a red helm too

>>96295051
A purge often is the right response to chaos, sadly enough. The Grey Knights do what they do for a reason, and knowledge of chaos spreads with a will of its own like an infection. Pretty basic stuff for the setting.

>>96295025
Coteaz bird is probably tied with that one

>>96295060
Codex is dogshit btw. I won’t be surprised if they get deleted come 11th

>>96295073
>>96295025
Yeah I gotta give it to inquisitor diaperman's bird crashing into a pole and breaking its wing.
The robot is a contender for the silver medal for sure though.

>>96295063
>Fucked up and forgot to make the sarges head red
You could just say he got hit in his helmet and swapped it out to get back on the battlefield

>>96294978
>>96295025
>>96295073
is there some sort of fucking problem with just providing a clear plastic rod to hold them up with???

>>96295085
GW decided it was lower quality than sculpted stands.

>>96295085
GW sucks at clear plastic flying stands
they always have bubbles in them

>>96295085
They suck harder

Any hope for a remake of the Legion of the Damned kit? Maybe for Killteam?

>>96295085
I'm assuming they outsource the manufacturing of the rods to someone else and that they are trying to cut that expense out

>>96295085
They probably save like 100k a year on production by using the same grey plastic as everything else instead of a separate run of clear.

>>96295093
>more marines
Le yawn

>>96295093
If you were going to get it anywhere it'd be killteam and even then I can think of dozens and dozens of things more likely to be chosen as killteams

>>96295099
:(

>>96295093
No, but I don't think Legion of the Damned had any kind of unique gimmick beyond existing so you can model them as anything you want. Thousand Sons are all psykers, Deathwatch have alien weapons and special ammunition, Night Lords are the spookiest marines. stuff like that may get special kill team rules. Legion of the Damned are just marines that are space ghosts.

If I ran MkIIIs with rotor cannons as heavy intercessors would a tournament boot me?

>>96295104
Would be cool if they got their own unique units and a codex.

>>96295093
Extremely unlikely for KT, at best we would get a character or 5 man squad.

>>96295090
Are you saying you would prefer this shit
>>96295073
>>96295025
To pic related because of a tiny bubble?

>>96295108
Fuck that was such a good game. You kinda just lose yourself in that world

>>96295113
yes
the bubble ruins the illusion worse than sculpted stands

>>96295085
Yeah, they fucking broke all the time. I gave up regluing my deffkoptas to them shits and just ran them on their skids. They were vehicles anyway I just used the hull.

>>96295104
deepstrike rules and maybe something like reset up rules to reflect their daemonic nature

>>96295060
Thanks for the idea. Seeing the size difference between new Deathwing Knights and Grey Knights makes me wonder why they didn't update them. They're so small. Sadly, I've kinda hated them since their introduction.

>>96295074
There's a bunch of unique models and such. Really think they'd remove them that easily? I guess not that crazy because aren't the Ynnari and the Harlequins basically just a footnote in the eldar codex now?

>>96295129
Honestly I think GW is just refusing to update their models until they move their remaining stock. I bet we'll see updated grey knights in 11th edition.

>>96295099
>lE yAwN
Doofus mcgee here has an opinion everybody! Watch out!

>>96295129
>Thanks for the idea. Seeing the size difference between new Deathwing Knights and Grey Knights makes me wonder why they didn't update them
because it loses money to release everything at once and also takes time to design and produce new model ranges. they are almost certainly getting a full range refresh in 11th edition

>>96295146
Just like drukhari

>>96295123
Not shitposting genuinely asking. Do you not find the giant piece of physical terrain stuck unnaturally to the bottom of flying models more distracting than the tiny bubble on a clear stand that you can see the board through. If so, why?

Is posting the /tg/ archive a bannable offense now? I got a temporary block for posting it last thread and my post was deleted. Guess a mod is deciding on if I get banned now lol.

>>96295129
>Seeing the size difference between new Deathwing Knights and Grey Knights makes me wonder why they didn't update them
Because everything takes time to be updated and gk are fairly new for nonprimaris. We're just getting to jump pack marines and sternguards now.

>>96295154
posting the archive often times exposes the hypocrisy this board has and such is "going against board culture" and can result in a ban

>>96295154
If it's highlighting something off topic to traditional games then yeah, you can get banned for it.

>>96295154
>96295154
It doesn't help when it's a blatant tits shot

>>96295160
ah. guess I won't do it then and just post the images directly. the lamentits image didn't get deleted but linking to an archive of a post where another anon posted boobs did. so I guess the rule is the archive is banned.

>>96295146
>>96295158
Oh I get it takes time. I just thought it was weird the edition they were super hyped about upgrading terminators, they don't update the army that is exclusively terminators. But yeah, if there's old stock and they're not as big of sellers as DA knights and such, it makes sense to delay and focus on other stuff.

>>96295165
people post sfw porn ITT literally on the hour. it has a 40k model. I don't see the difference between this and like big titty yvraine coomer art

>>96295174
That guy never gets his posts deleted unless he says one of the nameswhoshouldnotbenamed. It's best not to follow his example

>>96295182
You can be banned for posting sfw porn here, it just depends on whose processing the bans at the time

>>96295182
>Dump trucks hauling on this road

>>96295025
Not so fast

>>96295175
They don't usually update every single type of an existing unit type all at once. All the primaris heavy weapon guys were spread out from 8th to now.

>>96295210
those are great though

>>96295210
I didn't even know these existed wtf

>>96294873
My dad neither, but take a page out of 40k lore and grow stronger from it.

>>96295213
The model design is cool. But we were discussing the "flight stand" bits themselves and how it affects the model

>>96294774 (OP)
>Agents waifu edition
Based
Post fat imperial tits and asses

I am working on my Lion for this month's collage. How the fuck do people paint faces that look good? This is my first bare head, and its killing me.

>>96295085
>>96295091
>>96295090
>>96295088
If you know what you are doing and aren't a fucking retard you could probably make a rod of clear epoxy resin. Feel free to test out this idea.

What do you think I should add to this pile to push towards 2k? I'm looking to play semi competitively, but still want to have some fun lists and not be a full sweat. I like basically everything in the range, but the new robot guys probably the least.

Grimnyr
Khal
E Champ
20 Warriors
5 Zerks
5 Hearthguard
2 Sagitaur
6 Bikes
Land Fortress

>>96295231
steeljacks to hop out the land fortress and start blasting

>>96295226
Probably should have practiced on a sergeant or something first lol

>>96295238
Haha yeah, that would have been more sensible. I am planning on magnetizing the head to use them all, but I figured I would just try to paint the bare one for the collage.

>>96295227
Thats way too much effort

>>96295248
The work actually looks good, I just find the jump from 0 straight to primarch amusing

>>96295231
Ironkyn

>>96295231
Steeljacks. They're insane

>>96295257
Thanks dude. It is a bit goofy, but I am using the monthly collage to help me get over the anxiety of painting. Which is ridiculous to be sure, but for what ever reason I worry about fucking up my models.

>>96295268

>>96294774 (OP)
>TQ
Kept painting sacrificial minis with different schemes before I found one I liked.

>>96295226
Looks good to me man. I did my Lion in helmet because I didn't want to paint the face. Kind of regret it. Just take your time and possibly wait a day to get fresh eyes to see if you need touch anything up.

>>96295212
True true, it is a slow process. Anyways, I'll keep looking for a cheap-ish elite army.

I have a goal of learning this edition, learning competitive play, and going to an out of town big tournament for a vacation. I can do my DA, but I have the itch for new models.

>>96294832
Shit that sounds like me, but just having a look it seems like ive painted about 1.5k worth so far so that's not too bad desu

>>96295226
Something that helped me with faces were washes thinned with lahmian medium. It helps the wash go where you want it to and reduces coffee staining. A thin brown wash over everything then a thin purple/red wash over the eyes, ears and mouth goes a long way.
Also when you're painting eyes don't use pure white or black, tint them with your base skin colour. It'll make them look less cartoonish and bulging out

Any shelf suggestions for my all my minis guys?

>>96295227
ikea blaliden
easy to dustproof

>>96295223
Poastan

>>96295327
Hit up antique stores for curio cabinets. You'll find a good deal on some really solidly built stuff that'll last a long time with the right care.

White

>>96294803
>The heirs of Sigismund cleave to a decree the Emperor is said to have made before the terrors of the Horus Heresy unfolded, forbiding the use of supernatural powers amongst the Space Marines
Didn't Big E lifted off Nicea edict durring the siege of Terra?
Also
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Host_of_Pentacles

>>96294789
>>96294803
GW is just flanderizing 40k at this point.
This is just the logical end point of Black Templars if you let a complete retard who has never read the actual lore within the codexes that came before, and then let the said retard write the said lore for the next ones.
People nowadays just see Black Templars as "deus vult desu vult" "kill psykers" "kill all mutants" "0,0001% genetic deviation detected, execute the mongrel"
Which is just a flanderizatoin of their character.

It's kinda like how Salamanders have become flanderized to an extent, but not as badly since Salamanders are pretty unpopular.
Lot of the time people view Salamanders now as "wholesome chungus" marines and whatever, when in reality, yes, Salamanders are friendly toward civilians and do what they can to protect them, but Salamanders are not strangers to war.

Meaning they understand the price you sometimes have to pay to protect greater good of the Imperium.
Like sometimes to protect more of the populace they will torch down an entire civilian crowd if they suspect there being something like genestealer cultists or people with some infectius plague, amongst the crowd.
They obviously would prefer not to do this, but they understand the potential danger this would pose if they let the people go through.

>>96295346
Is that yours, anon? Looks fuckin crisp. What is your gold & leather recipe if you dont mind me asking?

>>96295337
Alfie author now makes 40k content?

>>96295327
I just used an ikea billy with glass doors

>>96294774 (OP)
>TQ: army scheme
Thread-goers won't be interested but this was a recent discovery for me. I got a bunch of box sets including terminators and other stuff. Focussing on termis to "make a win first before the other 400 models". Since terminators are legacy units and will never ever be "Legends" I felt safe getting them. I am used to 4th edition one shot death termis and the numbers haven't changed since, if anything it's easier with 4shot rapid fire and 6-8 point guardsmen models rather than 5pt models.

Skipping to the why of their scheme; I wanted re-teleporting terminators. Looking through detachments and what they can be armed with, I ordered cyclone missile launchers and TH+Storm Shields to turn captains into. Lore made me want to be a Salamanders Successor. Terminator heavy requires me to use Dark Angels Rules.

So to introduce why they're mostly terminators as a "successor/young chapter" is around their homeworld(un-named). It's a perpetual storm world with volcanic nature that has tons of resources and volatile wildlife. Acid storms strip paint and floods are common. Making "torpedo cyclone missiles" a fun thought as they fight during a flood and then underwater. So with the theme of "Storm Bolters, Thunder Hammers, Storm Shields, Cyclone Missile Launchers" felt right with that background.

The storms would strip their chapter colors. They would have to be metal, and their icons and decals welded on in bi-metal appearances. All metal marines. They must teleport around to get place to place. They're successed by armor artistans, so they're on the higher end of Terminator Armor maint.

Being the keepers and protectors of the miners of their world, they tend to be rich in trading materials to get a defense fleet and equipment. As I expand the army, I'll write in more of why that stuff is there. It's just an open half blank book so far.
>most of the details I've made aren't being shared here, just sharing why they're "metal marines"

>>96295353
Not mine, it's a painter named Burdonite. But I do like some crisp white minis

https://www.instagram.com/burdonite

>>96294986
how about a kommando??

>>96295367
Prime white, gloss varnish & oil wash? I yet to try the varnish + oil wash combo yet

>>96295353
Given its saved in the pinterest file size, I'd say it's unlikely that it's his

HE WAS A BRAVE SON OF THE EMPEROR TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING!
IN THIS THREAD, MAGNUS IS A HERO! END OF STORY!

>>96295327
ikea blaliden
easy to dustproof

>>96295350
>nooo my heckin noblebright marines
kill yourself secondary

>>96293182
Oh cool to hear, I really like the idea of painting my Phobos units like Firewing marines and trying to lean towards the iconography of a specific order

>>96295373
Don't, he's a ritual poster

>>96295366
>ran out of space to explain further
Not sharing every detail of their lore here, still fiddling with to be honest.

For the terminators I settled on Vanguard Spearhead. Re-teleporting terminators make their rapid ingress strategem and many squad-specific teleport beacons/homers a fun theme.

The other strategems, plus the benefit of cover while outside 12" make for a durable army. The negative 1 to enemy AP guns strategem enhances their 2+ save. I honestly thought Centurions would be better, then I remembered what they are....

Their lore I believe will be a chapter of 700 max, due to high frequency of the higher ups watching them closely. Because I want to write in that they "lost 3 companies, details hinting they're alive" so they cannot recruit above 700 marines. Chapter master presumed lost, an acting chapter master will be in place.

For the additions eventually added, I'm flowing between 2 Armigers(box set) and storm speeders(for the weather puns I guess) but to continue their deep strike theme.

The other marines(infernus marines) may have arms/parts replaced. I will have lots of power swords left over from the terminator captains so they're getting turned into something with those weapons.

I'll be playing with the hot metal looks for the power weapons, power fists and such with the orange and purples using a airbrush.

>>96295378
I think it's less about noblebright marines, and more about logic.
And speaking about secondaries, the new codex does looks like it's been written by secondary who only heard about Imperium's Khornates and Deus Vult memes.

>>96295374
that's a painter named orkdajump

https://x.com/orkdajump/status/1954544051283202166

>>96295348
Unofficially, the use of psykers was allowed again due to the dire nature of the heresy. Officially Nicea was never lifted.

Against my better judgment I am interested in reading a BL book. Is Inheritor any good?

>>96295378
Being forced to torch civilians down isn't really noblebright.
Also Templars working with Astropaths and Navigators isn't noblebright, it's just common sense because they quite literally have fuck all other options to travel around if they want to enact their crusade.

>>96295397
Not particularly

There's a very amusing B-plot in Throne of Light that ends with a Black Templar chaplain and his followers killing a Custodian delegation and trying to go on crusade without a Gellar field, because the Emperor protects.

>>96295387
I should've added this image to that post. This is the baseline metal I decided to order. It's arriving soon, but I need to mod the models a bit more.
who the fuck designs terminators with holes in their armor shoulder sections that I need to fill

Hey guys, hope your projects are going well. Just wanna do a little PSA about august collage. The theme is character model. Deadline is midnight august 31st est. I'll be posting anchor posts where you can submit your model and vote for the september theme every thread the last seven days of the month as usual. Feel free to give me suggestions next month's theme.

>>96294972
Hahaha eat shit Grimnar

>>96295440
make it to where anyone can be involved

>>96295391
That's pretty cool, wish it was one of us who painted & posted it though

>>96295350
>There are some psykers who the black templars judge to be vessels of the emperor's will
Seems fine to me.
Besides which almost all the excessive purging examples are couched in qualifying language like 'can' and 'may', not 'will' or 'must'. This all feels to me like how secondaries would hear about how inquisitors have the power to do exterminatus, and assume they went around ordering them up all the time like Kryptman.

>>96295440
Surely this time will be terrain's turn.

>>96295440
I saw duels being suggested. Two minis fighting each other on a shared base, like a tiny diorama. I think it might be cool.

>>96295452
Terrainchads rise up
>>96295453
I like that too

>>96295440
My very early submission

What are surface-to-orbit vessels like?

>>96295463

>>96295376
Bro has bright red skin, giant wings and horns and a huge cyclopean eye and was hanging out with guys who genocide alien races for a day job. He got what was coming to him

>>96295360
Not sure, but there's an ai slop generator trained on his style

>>96295327
Something fully dustproof, otherwise you're just giving yourself more busywork. Look at old AV shelves, the 80s Kenwoods are everywhere for dirt cheap and easy enough to install backings and weather stripping as they're all engineered particle board

>>96295223

>>96295445
Every person is welcome

>>96295463
Swarms of assorted lighters, landers and such.

>>96295440
I know it's early but opinions on this for a theme?
>something that is oop, no longer a legal load out, or has no in-game representation within 10th edition but once eas playable in a past edition of 40k(legends included)
Might be a good way for us to paint those kits that we all have kicking around that we don't know what to do with
>>96295223
Ass for visibility

>>96295445
What are the current barriers to stop people now?

>>96295508
two subhuman sloppers are permabanned
nobody else is barred from the collage

>>96295508
There aren't any

>>96295508
unit specific or category which may not what they have available to work on during the current month
>make every other month an "anything submission"
so all are included without parameters such as "elites only" or "leaders only" making people wait to paint certain things to make it in

>>96295513
>two
I only know of the one.

>>96295515
>make every other month an "anything submission"
Might not be a terrible idea. I'll mull it over and see what people think.

>>96295528
having a idea a month in advance what the next month will be will let people plan for purchases if they want the option

popping off with a "ok this month is this" sort of catches people with a plan with their pants down, I know community led stuff with votes and polls are great but its not a framework

>>96295532
the point is to paint something specifically for that month, if you're planning beforehand then that defeats the spirit of it

>>96295508
1. don't be an annoying faggot
2. don't be an annoying shitposter
3. be normal

>>96295537
that somehow feels like a double negative, that would take having a pile of shame or "surprise you need to buy THIS"

more than one anon mentioned that they were already done with the models a month prior, that they missed the mark

>>96295506
I like this theme as I have 3 metal warlocks and a metal farseer on my backlog

>>96295537
I think it's fine if you've been planning it for a few months and the collage is what gets you to start working at it at the beginning of the month. I think the main idea is to just get people painting their stuff. Like grabbing a built model that's been collecting dust until the collage inspires you to commit feels like it's still in the spirit of the collage provided you haven't started painting yet

>>96295553
Do they have some weapon option not available? You could still run a warlock today even if he's a little short. But it could still be a lot of fun to get people painting their lead if you leave it open ended like you're suggesting

>>96295360
its slop m8

Boobs

is there a reason 40k never really got alternative play formats, like even 500 and 1k point games rarely get any actual support

>>96295607
If you want to play a 500pt or a 1000pt game, you just play. It's not hard.

>>96295607
i second this
>>96295613

the game is made for intro levels but ushers people to purchase to the 1000 dollar zone (2k points)

>>96295607
>never really got alternative play formats
Zone Mortalis?

>>96295607
>boarding actions
>crusade
>combat patrol

>Ordered Truecale lightning Claws and Blood Angel iconified termi shoulders+shin pads
I'm excited to get to paint these.

>>96295607
It did, they all suck.
Crusade is actually fun and Boarding Actions I can't speak for
Expect Combat Patrol to be renamed again in 11th with new boxes and just be spearhead but 40k

Imperial agents expansion is coming!!!!
I can feel it
>TQ
First I have a very rough outline for their fluff followed by a color scheme that matches it. I decided on painting my arbites deep blue because they hunt down genestealer cults and see themselves as spiritual sucessors to the ultramarines fighting proper tyranids and hive fleet leviathan
>>96295607
Just have ask your friends to play more casually. Just know who you're playing with and decide to stick around with the cooler ones
>>96295093
I haven't seen them mentioned even in fluff for years now... I think this is one of the more hopeless refreshes, so im all in for it.

>>96295655
>I haven't seen them mentioned even in fluff for years now... I think this is one of the more hopeless refreshes, so im all in for it.
they were in the fall of cadia and quite a few other novels dealing with faith powers

>>96295655
>Imperial agents expansion is coming!
Correct! As a Grey Knights Killteam

>>96295655
Last mention of the Lost and damned was at the fall of radiation I think

>>96295655
>>96295668
Cadia* phonepostan

>>96295655
>Imperial agents expansion is coming!!!!
what's there to expand? adding a tank to their army?

>>96295670
>what's there to expand?
My dong.

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96295127
>deepstrike rules
We have two Space Marine factions that have deepstrike as a major mechanic.

Gray Knights are the 'premier marine uppy downy' faction and Deathwatch use necron teleporters and have excellent deep strike strats. I know it can be frustrating to here "just proxy this as" but a Gray Knights army literally just captures that aesthetic perfectly.

Like, I am all for MORE content for 40k but this really just seems like not quite enough to for a full army. If anything I would say a new data sheet is the most likely you would get. https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k10ed/factions/imperial-agents/Damned-Legionnaires Isn't this just a normal tactical squad with a battleshock rule as a bit of extra spice?

>>96295544
You don't have to buy anything. There will be more themes and months. The collage is just supposed to be a fun thing, not something to pressure you into buying stuff. Collage anon is not that strict with the theme either. If the theme is character for example and you were to submit a sergeant or particulary pimped out squad member I doubt he'd reject it.

>>96295093
>>96295655
>>96295668
Where's that passage about the lotd being led by totally-not-ghost-ferrus from?

>>96295675
No it isn't and you aren't feeling anything.

It's crazy how fucking killy CSM are when they roll hot and how anemic they are when they don't. Your army rule requiring you to roll 6s is rough.

>>96294774 (OP)
>TQ
I just thought green and silver looked kino.
If I had to do it again though, I'd do the research on existing schemes and lore before picking a scheme and not the other way around. Because it got me stuck with a meme legion.

>>96295741
Could say that playing them feels random, chaotic one would say.

I love Blood Angels

>>96295751
>I love Blood Angels
Well. This is the coolest story I've ever heard.

>>96295073
So amazingly shitty, people should be fired over something like this

>>96295440
Dioramas/duels would be cool, though I'm happy with most of the options still on the last list

>>96295770
I would really like to be a fly on the wall of the corpo speak meetings where the meeting starts with "okay so reception to this design has not been great" and the artists can't handle criticism so they blame the entire codex for the failure instead of it's shitty execution.

>>96295751
Me too buddy

>>96295558
Well you can still play metal warlocks and farseers, provided you base the warlocks up to 32mm. They mostly still have witchblades and singing spears.
The very oldest warlocks had force staffs which no longer exist, but can be easily passed off as a singing spear.

>>96294789
>>96294803
They started out hating all psykers, then someone went "that kinda doesn't make any fucking sense because the Emperor sanctioned them and Navigator houses are powerful enough to fuck with them".

Like there was even fluff where the BT didn't know why they didn't get any psykers, rather than refusing to serve with them. Like there was something wrong with their geneseed.

I dunno I don't mind them treating low level astropaths like shit but they should definitely be respecting highly talented ones and Navigators lol.

>>96295788
Diorama would be pretty neat. If I hadn't made my jetstream sam marine already I'd make a duel diorama where he cuts the arm off an eldar or something.

>>96295847
I mean they say in your own clipping that they treat high ranking psykers as having divinely provided powers. anytime it doesn't make sense they just cope and say its "divine". just like actual religious people, its not unrealistic.

>>96295751
But they're so gay.

>>96295862
they're as classically hetero as you can get
the only faggot marines are dark angels and space wolves

>>96295865
No they're clearly queer coded

>>96295865
EC are the only faggot marines. Homosexuality is illegal in the imperium.

Does anyone know any good artists who draw NSFW robot stuff? The Steeljack talk yesterday got me inspired, but I've got the artistic skill of a dead fish.

>>96295875
>The Steeljack talk yesterday got me inspired

>>96295875
Wank before posting

>>96295875

>>96295870
no one ever breaks imperial law. can you imagine?

>>96295890
They don't.
Anyone who breaks imperial law is no longer human and is immedeatly executed.

>>96295875
Just browse for a bit on Twitter or Bluesky, a lot of degenerates congregate on those two sites.

>>96295875
How does that get you horny? If it was like an assaultron or some shit then maybe I could see the logic chain.

I remember that scene from Devastation of Baal where Mephiston and all the librarians gather in a cave to do a ritual.
>Alright, gang! Everyone grab the wrist of the person on your right and start sucking on it.
>But why?
>TO OWN THE XENOS!

>>96295896
both gay and trans people canonically exist in the Imperium, sorry chuddy.

>>96295908
They aren't people, and an inquisitor will be there to shoot them in the head shortly anyway.

>>96295904
Twelve inches of steel that doesn't need to recover, with no risk of STDs or unwanted pregnancy.

>>96295908
I mean, you're technically right.

>>96294803
This is actually based and the old one is cringe

>>96295909
i'm pretty sure the best non-daemon prince fighter in 40k is a tranny right now

>>96295924
It's elf, elves aren't part of the Imperium and they aren't people either.

>>96295924
How is Dhzarr a tranny. He is just another Phoenix Lord

>>96295449
Kryptman genuinely did nothing wrong. Unless they retconned him recently into existing again but now he was retarded.

I hope the new edition will feature Dark Eldar and SM and I can get rid of the SM half.

>>96295911
i get your autistic special interest is the daily wire but your cross universe fanfic isn't relavent to the actual setting.

>>96295948
You will never have trouble finding buyers for the Space Marine half of a starter box. Especially if it's the only way to get a highly desired unit like Assault Terminators for a few months.

>>96295870
>>96295896
>>96295909
>>96295915
Can you ESL faggots hurry up and make your next heckin epic subreddit instead of spamming this middle schooler's first edgy post shit in our general

>>96295948
Monkey's paw is that it's all the ATV's vs eldar jetbikes.

>>96295955
What do you mean "cross universe"? You think it's unlikely that Ironkin can have sex with regular Dwarfs, or what?

>>96295896
Secondary-kun that's not true. Penal legions exist and there are punishments for petty crime.

>>96295984
nta, why do you expect a random vtard or poltard injecting politics in the setting that don't exist would actually know the lore. especially as penal legions havent been mainstream lore for like 20 years.

>>96295977
NTA, but I personally would love to make a jetbike army and that would be an exceptionally cheap way to do so.

>>96295984
>>96295991
Penal legions are only for human criminals. Faggots aren't humans and therefore are immedeatly executed just like xenos or chaos cultists.

>>96296006
Holy shit learn how to spell before posting here you literal child

>>96296013
I have no respect for your language and you can understand me just fine.

>>96296006
Deathal legions are only for death criminals. Deathots aren't deathans and deathfore are immedeathly exedeathed just like desthos and death deathists.

>>96295908
>>96295991
>>96296006
Slaaneshi cults would dominate the political hierarchies of the Imperium no questions asked. 50% of the Inquisitions workload would be rooting out Epstein networks, the other 50% would be setting up their own Epstein networks to act as honeypots.

>>96295984
>>96295991
>>96295999
>>96296016
carnac this is just you samefagging both sides of a fight again. Pocket janny says the majority of posting in general on /tg comes from london ontario.

>>96296022
So what's the 40k equivalent of the Epstein island? A shrine world?

>>96296027
>>london ontario
>google it
>it's fucking real

>>96296033
L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
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>>96296027
the only faggot who accidently exposed his west london location was the wannabe thread police (ie. you)

>>96296006
>immedeatly

>>96296027
>pocket janny
Only way you'd have this and know this is if you're the who's name starts with E.

So yesterday we put the cardboard 20-minute-to complete terrain to use.
It worled perfectly.
I guess, if i would spend another 20 minutes for priming and painting it more accurately, it could be considered even aesthetically pleasurable.

Why is everyone in the community already talking almost entirely about 11th edition when it's almost a year out still? Is it always like this as soon as the last codex releases in an edition? People just instantly ready to jump to consume the next thing?

>>96296043
It's not my fault that english is fake and it's just 3-4 different languages in a trench coat.

>>96296033
Canada is a funny place

>>96296048
are you the admechian player with the reflection in the table?

>>96296027
Pretty much everyone from the most southern tip of Toronto all the way to the quebec border is going to come up as a London ontario poster. Most of our population lives in that insanely broad area all these IPs get sucked into

>>96296055
>Canada is a funny place
Funnily enough there are a load of Canadian posters including me. You'd think this place would be dominated by Brits given that GW comes from Britain.

>>96296049
I don't think it is being instantly ready to jump to consume the next thing, it is holding out hope that this time the edition will be the definitive edition with a legacy fan following and support like how Mordheim and Epic Armageddon got.
It most likely won't be.

>>96296049
People talk about it because there's nothing else to talk about.
The models are either good, ok or bad, and in general it is pointless to discuss about them because taste is subjective. One man's piece of shit is another man's favorite model ever.

The lore has nothing interesting and it's just majorly nothingburgers or so obvious "sequel baiting" that you know that it is pointless to speculate what an Y thing is because you know GW will just reveal what the shit is in the near future. Vashtorr is a good example of this.
Also doesn't help that most of the lore now is just
>"Imperium gets into a battle with X faction, both sides pour in man power and resources, Imperium in the end manages to push away the enemy in a brutal pyrrhic victory. But the X faction managed to achieve their secret goals in the conflict and retreat."
Another big problem with lot of modern "warzones" in 40k is that GW is obsessed in trying to shove in as many retarded factions they can, which in the end just makes the conflict boring and grey mush without identity.
Pariah Nexus is a good example of this, people were fine with it just being a Imperium vs Xenos conflict, but then GW just shoves Vashtorr into it for no reason.

>>96296049
People have been talking about 11th ever since the launch of 10th. That's how dogshit 10th has been.

>>96295346
sigmarines, unsurprisingly, make great-looking marines
Old prosecuters were great, RIP

>>96296048

>>96296079
I miss the art deco wings.

what daemon prince head is coolest

>>96296103
The one you pick, of course!

>>96296115
>>96296103
With the added caveat that we're all gonna hate your choice when you post wips. Good luck!

>>96296048
unfortunately no

>>96294978
Fuck Kharadons look atrocious

>>96296059
Brit warhammer players are more normie than NA players.
You still get sperges and autists and hamplanets but also some average dudes

>>96296128
Take the Jules Verne pill.

>scout local lgs
>manager put in charge of wargames doesn't like the 40k setting and clearly thinks imperium bad
>most people have a tau army, even if it's not their main
The most active people sound like each match is secretly trying to prove something.
I don't know about sharing my lovingly crafted donut steel marines chapter, designed with fluff in mind.

>>96296128
they adopted mk3 but they actually made it look cool

>>96296152
Tau is far and away the most popular army that has never been in a starter box. I guess they just have really wide appeal to people that don't like a lot of the normal 40k stuff.

>>96296152
>most people have a tau army, even if it's not their main

>>96296151
>could've been cool underwater dwarves that live underwater and mine underwater shit
>natural enemy of the underwater elves
>nah fuck it make them float around in balloons lmao

>>96296170
Their natural enemies are birdlike skate punks.

>>96296182
why is tzeentch the only one with flyers. Why did he claim that?

>>96296182
In the past I've been mostly ambivelent about AoS, but this image just does not make think the setting is cool.
This shit looks fucking retarded.

>Yes I play space marines
>My chapter? Yeah they're my own creation

>>96296186
nurgle does have the fly riders

>>96296151
Maybe its just the paint scheme, unsure
Really fucking hate that reddish gold look, so fucking tacky
Same goes for custodes

If you're playing against a new player do you do your best to point out the things he's missing?

>>96296191
AoS had a phase where their art was even worse than the 40k art at the same time
they did get better, though I have no idea what the standard is currently

>>96296204
I think it's supposed to be copper.

>>96296206
Only if it benefits me.

>>96296170
You know, having more factions lean in to the underwater theme might have been distinctive at least

anyone here used a brush on varnish before? how does it compare to a spray can / airbrush?

>>96296206
I point out the thing's he missed after I'm done crushing him and the game is over.

>>96296206
You’re supposed to be playing by intent whenever you play the game so it should be something natrual

>>96296225
I brush on AK ultra matte, I find it gets very cloudy and patchy, but my trick is to keep brushing it on and pooling the varnish around as it dries, I look for the areas about to become cloudy and redo the varnish there before it fully dries, im able to get a fully crisp model this way

>>96296216
Make the Idoneth memekin worship Lovecraftian old ones. Replace all their dumb flying sharks with versions that can, at the very least, slither on the ground. Fuck it, have the underwater dwarves dig too greedily and too deep and breech notCthulu's prison, now you have notChaos Deep Dwarves. I'm a genius and AoS is a shit heap of missed potential.

>>96296094
>Rise and Shine, Krispy Kreman. Rise and Shine.

>>96296211
It's not even the technical aspect of the art. It's mostly fine.
It's just what the entire thing is about. It's a fucking yellow and purple steampunk dwarf, astronaut with a giant metal sphere and random mechanical arms, flying around fighting a blue skinned, bird legged elf wearing golden armor while standing on a disc.
Like this shit feels like what an AI would give you if you asked it for a painting idea.
It's just bad.

>>96296170
Blanshe thought it would be fun to see a ship fly and pitched that

>>96296206
Of course. I'm not gonna be a faggot to a guy on one of his first games.

A little late for last month's collage but better late than never. Gonna paint up a Fabius for the august collage.

>>96296246
Half of your issue is just the existance of Tzeentch.
>nooo not the blue bird theamed guy on a disc!!!

>>96296239
oh nice, im assuming that a similar problem would exist for the gloss version where parts of the model would become too glossy? ive never used varnish for an entire model before, just in spots that i want to look slimy

>>96296253
Fabulous work, but can be further improved by the application of transfers.

>>96296253
how do you paint your whites, vintage anon? it always looks so lovely

>>96296266
uh oh the decal man has awoken

>>96296253
Yeah I know. Gotta get off my ass and order some custom decals. I'll get around to it eventually.

>>96296256
I don't care that Tzeentch has birds and is blue, Lord of Change is a cool design for a demon.
A bird legged, blue elf just looks fucking lame. Especially when you consider that Tzeentch is the god of change, mutation and evolution.
Like they couldn't come up with a better tzeentchian sorcerer design besides "blue elf with bird legs"?

>>96296276
Meant for >>96296266

>>96296253
Looks great. That white looks super clean.

>>96296270
Thanks. It's just corax white shaded with apothecary white and gryphchargers grey followed by a pure white highlight. Ultra matte varnish is a cheat code for crispy white, I encourage anyone painiting white to try it.

>>96296280
Magisters of Tzeentch aren't anything new. You're just being mad at his established aesthetic

>>96296246
>Like this shit feels like what an AI would give you if you asked it for a painting idea.
Ai isn't anywhere near creative enough. It would just regurgitate warcraft-esque humans work too many fingers and armour that blends into the skin.

Steampunk bell-diving sky dwarves vs blue birdmen sky-surfing wizards actually requires human imagination.

>>96296299
I don't care if they have existed before, it looks like shit regardless.

>>96296302
>Steampunk bell-diving sky dwarves vs blue birdmen sky-surfing wizards actually requires human imagination.
And sometimes human imagination is on par with AI, not all ideas are equal or good.

Can someone sell me on why codexes should be exclusively physical books in the current year

>>96296312
Because they know no one would buy these shitty codex's with bad art, recycled fluff, and rules that are outdated on release, but they can't solve the piracy issue with digital copies and refuse to give out free rules.

>>96296241
Oil Baron Chaos Dwarves with deep sea rigs is a missed opportunity

>>96296309
Ask an AI to generate three new 40k factions and tell me those are worse than the average Exodites/DarkMech/Slann/Skaven in 40k brain rot.

>>96295231
Steeljacks are being massively overrated right now, don't feel like you need to get them

>>96296312
They want you to use the code to register in their app so they can harvest your data.

>>96296341
ooo fun idea, lets see what I get

1. The Vireliad Synod

a post singularity human civilization that follow an AI and have a tech priesthood, however they are so dispassionate they show no mercy

2.The Fleshtide Covenant

A civilization swallowed by the warp and turned into a hive like creature, they believe they are the next step in human evolution

3.The Eclipsari Concord

They live on the edge of the galaxy and neerly died to a cataclysm, they turned to intergalactic shadow gods to survive and totally hate chaos

>>96296366
>literally just admech
>what if nids but chaos
>basically c'tan
NTA but those are really horrid, impressive

>>96296312
If they had cool art and fluff and things they used to have like alt colour schemes and conversions they would have some value
I dont think those are ever coming back though

>>96295517
I think he served his time and should be allowed on now.

Did eldar ever mess around with Ai or did their religion get in the way of that

>>96296403
Eldar put ghost in the shell dead souls inside their machines so they don't really need AI. They just upload an expert from the infinity circuit to provide knowledge for any task.

>>96296403
Pre-fall Eldar were a psychic civilization. Instead of AIs they used warp constructs, the greatest of which were their "gods".

>>96296403
I mean they had 6 million fucking years after the War in Heaven to do creative things, I'm sure AI featured at some point, I would hope that the lazy knife-eared bastards didn’t just spend 6 MILLION YEARS fucking and eating.

>>96296395
Why

>>96296444
Because there is no reason to single anyone out

>>96296403
They likely had no real need for it since they're all psykers and use psychic technology to do most things.

>>96296449
I wonder who is behind this post

>>96296366
>and totally hate chaos
why does your gippity talk like that? what have you done to the poor thing

>>96296403
They don't really need it when they psychically communicate with all their tech. No idea how the Deldar do things though, presumably the Haemonculi glue brains together or something.

>>96296225
brush on is simple and less prone to fuckups than spraying imo. keep your brush wet while applying and don't fuss with areas while they dry except to soak up excessive pooling. if any areas dry cloudy then just apply another layer over the top later.

I use matt and satin all the time to unify the finish of paints when I've gone a bit crazy mixing and blending across brands. matt black and satin whites can look really rough and ugly.

>>96296297
>corax white
What sorcery is this

>>96296455
Just giving me opinion on the matter

>>96296161
>Forget the power of technology, science and common humanity.
>Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for there is no peace amongst the stars,
>only an eternity of carnage and slaughter and the laughter of thirsting gods
The way some of them speak about factions, they are unwilling to accept the premise of the setting.

>>96295658
>>96295668
That's 2 years ago! Still counts as years!
>>96295670
Yup, vehicles, antitank, ranged options, more infantry options not exclusive to dettachments. So on and so forth
>>96295875
Yes but all they do is 2B and Aigis. Take it or leave it
>>96296366
I came up with something better while high once...

>>96296500
Didn't they update that part to make it more optimistic? I distinctly remember people being butthurt about it.

>>96296481
No sorcery, just an old man stuck in his ways. Scared of substituting colours in your scheme after using them for years, you know how it is.

>>96296276
I love them both

>>96296366
>all 3 are just variations of human
Grim.

>>96296604
Tau are just blue humans. Blumans.

>>96296619
a group of blumans even

Why don't we have any chaos xenos? There should be plenty of those out there.
I think a race of sentient trees that feed on blood and bones could be cool. Like they invade a world and feed the people to a big tree that eventually ascends to daemon princehood and turns the planet into a daemon world.

>>96296637
Chaos loves power armor, and hates being original, it’s why blood pact doesn’t exist.

>>96296637
>Why don't we have any chaos xenos?
Humanity is way too abundant and Kayoss metagame is to prey on them, thus putting evolutionary pressure on Daemons to adapt to human-like whims and the such. Why bother trying to seduce some glorpgnaks when you can seduce 100 humans and you already know how they work, unlike glorpnaks?
I know this because I am a zoanthrope IRL chilling in my library gym atm.
The other answer is that Chaos Mortals in 40k are synonymous with CSM, which is why Lost & Damned aren't their own army either.

>>96296312
because people are more willing to spend money if they get physical things they can hold in their hands, and because if you sell a digital version it gets pirated and shared in full quality more easily for free outside of your control, and because if you had both a digital version and a physical version then the physical version would end up holding down the digital version from receiving more frequent and instant updates, erratas and faqs, anyway


the only way out is to turn the physical codex into something purely for artworks, fluff and pictures of models (not even painting guides) and to make the rules fully digital but still attached to that purchase

>>96296637
There are a bunch of chaos xenos like Laer and Saruthi. Deldar are arguably one such species as well.

>>96296510
Dude, you'd have to provide the version.
Every version I've seen has been "everything sucks worse than you can imagine, and there's only time for war".
You didn't ask, but my theory is that the setting is presupposing society works in cycles, and the cycle will continue in the future. And it's this presupposition that makes normalfags uncomfortable for one reason or another.

The amount of flat damage 3 weapons that hit with good consistency the new Votann can put out is fucking absurd. We're basically reaching the level of power creep we had with D2 with D3 now, some armies can basically just spam it entirely basically meaning anything under W4 is all the same to them.

>>96296500
That premise is for humans, not tau.

Pick one item/pet to buy at a farmer's market, sold by a crazy man that claims to be from the future.
Once one item is bought, no one else can buy it in a "thread," he says.
After an item has been chosen, the item it is GONE, for good!

He's probably literally crazy, but he has some neat nick-knacks.

>Bolt Pistol; Plus 1 full magazine of 10 - Wax seal with an ]|[ symbol - Magazine marked "HELLFIRE"
>Power Sword; Not powered right now - Power cord is weird-lookin' - Still an awesome old sword!
>Bionic Arm; Installation instructions missing - Red fabric fashion decals - Good quality, probably!
>Battered Laspistol; Plus 2 power cells of dubious condition - Rattles when shaken - Scuffed and dented.
>Chainsword; Runs on any combustible liquid - Results may vary but never disappoint - Very Sharp!
>Fancy Combat Knife; K.D.N. standard, STC patterned - Brand new - Z-no-skin sheath included!
>Plasma Gun; Only fired once! - Charred and blackened anyway - Full magazine minus just one shot.
>Power Fist; Power field is fiddly - Works as normal else-wise - A 2-ton handshake! Powerful High-fives!
>Servo Skull; A 'normal' flying skull - Has a megaphone and laser pointer - Programmable in binary.
>Tan Helmet; Super sturdy biker helmet - Very light! - Has two cameras around the nose to see with.
>Meditation Crystal; Talks to you in your sleep - Calls you Monkey(?) - Sounds haughty and kinda sassy.
>Spiky Hoverboard; Originally used to actually fly - Rider never loses balance - Has black-metal motifs.
>A cute pet dog; Named Squiggly - Has a lot of teeth and no arms - Is a very good boy and barely sheds!
>A wriggly lizard; Called Ripsie - No arms? No legs? No problem! - Eats ANYTHING you want to be gone.
>Cat N-Shard; A robot? A hologram? Both? - Acts like a tired servant - No refunds on nuclear self-detonation.
>Ninja Star; Eight pointed and sharp! - Comes with necklace chain - Lots of good/bad luck all around it.
>Green Metal Cube; Don't.Open.It! - Or... maybe... - Mystery Box...?

deathwatch is a shit army

>>96296637
Because every idea you could possibly have about some chaos xenos stuff works better as either non-chaos xenos stuff or as non-xenos chaos stuff, and because chaos doesn't sell enough to have reskinned spiky versions of everything out there.

>>96296695
Marines generally are

>>96296691
Bolt Pistol.

>>96296695
>>96296700
You play marines because of flavor, not because they are good rules wise.

Reminder that the tau are based off of Indians

>>96296710
>flavor
>marines
Good one. Maybe for chaos excluding thousand sons.

>>96296691
Bionic Arm for me

>>96296691
>no bionic eye implant
I'll take the power sword then I suppose

>hit any dreadnought with a bunch of shitty AP -1 attacks, 1 to 2 damage each
>marine player uses armour of contempt

So gay

>>96296719
>>flavor
>>marines
Unironically yes, if people didn't genuinely like them then nobody would actually play them since 9/10 their rules suck.

>>96296334
Chorfs have a swimming fortress in Shyish that sucks up souls of the drowned to fuel itself.
That's basically an oil rig

>>96296691
SQUIG!

>>96296680
What's the hard counter against them right now? Shit up the table with a fuck tonne of 1 wound models?

>>96296680
>Watching marinefags wig out over their precious muhreens dying to 1 hit
Delicious, welcome to the club

>>96296691
Statistically, if the plasma gun has a 100% failure rate so far, that means it can only get better from this point on!
Gimme!

>>96296680
everything dies immediately when in the open so the best shooters rarely do much the average ones already accomplish. it's for the mathhammer crowd who prefer theory to practice.

>>96296688
>in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war
Happy? The other one literally fits every faction but the tau because their gimmick is naivety and ai.
Don't be too autistic, anon, the point is that more than just a couple people seem to not even like the setting they are playing in.

>>96296744
Dinos make up less then a percentile of any/all oil on earth. You start getting into less then 1/100th of 1% of all oil if you include the oceans. Be better.

>>96296033
We used to have a Berlin Ontario too but they renamed it in WW1.

>>96296751
do nothing cause they arent that good
that fucking idiot is doom panicking over his precious fucking terminators

>>96296751
They hit on 4+ so -1 to hit abilities really fuck them up and they can’t ignore modifiers as easily as Tau seem to.

>>96296831
Listen dude I just want my “tough” anti tank squad of eradicators to be able to survive more than a single unit activation.

>>96296680
Have fun having a lot of overkill I guess? I'll just fuck more bodies at the problem, the IG way. Its not meta but its fun rolling dice.

>>96296852
>gravis
bruh even worse that shit is paper
but gw is so fucked "less lethal edition" never forget this edition has been nothing but them lying about absolutely fucking everything
dont listen to them when they start promising shit for 11th

>>96296852
>can reroll hits, wounds and damage

Wtf is this shit? Why so many rerolls?

>>96296870
Trying to emulate Eldar. Also melta is so shit this edition they can barely wound a rhino without them.

>>96296852
>squad of eradicators
Fuckers nuked my Brutalis Dread in one turn again this weekend, so gay...

>>96296796
>The other one literally fits every faction
no, it doesn't
literally all factions except imperials have a normal outlook towards technology

you don't be autistic, that text serves to set the tone and the tone being set is about the humans because they're central to everything, it's not something to take literally, it's not something to take absolutely, it's not something that applies to everything

the first who don't understand or like the setting are imperialfags

>>96296870
>>96296874
>>96296883
>"less rerolls we pwomise uwu"

FUCK GW

Why is Belisarius Cawl so racist against mixed loadout squads?

>>96296900
At least one of his personalities is probably just regular racist, so it bleeds over into other aspects of his life.

>>96296691
I'll take the sassy crystal, thanks.

>>96296883
Play a real faction with an army wide invuln then dumbass. Marines are trash anyway.

>>96296914
Space Wolves are more real than any faction you pretend to own.

>>96296900
He isn’t, GW is. Inf luff tactical squads with mixed loadouts and arumour are still the norm.

>>96296900
Blame Chapter House.

>>96296907
Why do Eldar make retarded armor? Proper fucked if you shoot her in the side.

>>96296900
Because he's ad-mech and therefore extremely autistic.

>>96296917
That was as meant tongue in cheek anon. I’ve been ruthlessly cucked by army wide invulns this last while and I’m just salty about it. I look forward to playing marines precisely because 90% of time I don’t have to worry about invulns aside from one or two units.

>>96296914
>Marines are trash anyway.
BA and DeathWatch are alright, meta wise.

>>96296637
>I think a race of sentient trees that feed on blood and bones could be cool. Like they invade a world and feed the people to a big tree that eventually ascends to daemon princehood and turns the planet into a daemon world.
Cool idea, like chaos cultists invade a world to sacrifice them to a their sacred tree they bought with them? Very nice idea, kinda reminds me of the Hist trees from Elder Scrolls (well they're not tree they're one of two beings that survived the creation of the modern world that take the form of tree). Weird genius hivemind that are also seperate and can use magic to mold a race of people to do their bidding.
How do you imagine your daemon world of these living tree deamon prince?
Also you could have the tree hivemind be due to the trees feeding off of the minds of its victims psykically and not photosyntesising like normal trees

>>96296680
Yeah, D3 spam is really out of hand. Just makes regular non speciul boi terminators even worse because they die in a single hit and Gravis is unusable

>>96296691
I'll take the Spiky Hoverboard thank you

>>96296936
eldar armor is made to harden on impact, it looks soft and that allows fluid movement, but when needed it instantaneously becomes a protective shell

Gravis is so terrible on the tabletop (I like the look of it) it made me switch armies

>>96296944
Oh I see, yea I am still a novice but my heavy armor seems like it gets destroyed very easily.

White

>>96296954
Fair. I really shouldn’t talk that much shit. After TT updated their app so you can filter by army my marines have a near 80% w/l. That’s just for casual though and because I play constantly. It I took them to a tourney I’m going 1-2 or 3-1. That said I run 12 eradicators because half of them are gonna die before doing anything really useful.

>>96296977
You have never played a game except with yourself

>>96296914
>>96296944
>army wide invulns
so admech which is also shit XD
>>96296954
nah

>>96296997
Wrong, you have never played a game and are projecting

White

>>96297006
Those are clearly red.

What is your honest opinion on the current state of Necrons?

>>96297015
the armywide 4++ should go to 5++

>>96297000
Actually Eldar, ‘Stodes, and Knights are my personal bugbears. Admech is fine. You have to run like 120 skitarii to make it matter and at that point I’m just happy to fight the horde even if I’m gonna get spanked.

>>96296955
>How do you imagine your daemon world of these living tree deamon prince
I was thinking the world eventually becomes a dark forest with trees bearing fruit in the form of the screaming skulls of those sacrificed or something. Maybe those who were sacrificed but were worthy warriors are reborn as one of the sentient tree xenos? So it's also kind of a part of the xenos reproductive cycle.

>>96297031
Eldar don't all have invulns

>>96296936
>>96296970
To expand:

Guardians wear mesh armour.
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Mesh_armour
Mesh Armour is formed of tens of thousands of individual pieces of thermoplas interwoven to produce a dense material resembling reptile scales or chainmail. It becomes momentarily rigid when hit, spreading force across a larger area, thereby reducing the damage. The thermoplas also disperses heat rapidly, giving reasonable protection against energy weapons. The material is psychically sensitive, automatically reacting to the wearer's movements and thoughts to maintain a glove-tight fit as they move and fight.

ASPECT ARMOUR
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Aspect_Armour
Aspect Armour is manufactured by the Eldar for use by their specialist Aspect Warriors. They use psychic engineering to construct a psycho-sensitive material which reacts instantly to movement by the wearer and moulds and reshapes itself to provide a tight fit, making it ideal for combat. It stiffens on impact much like Mesh Armour although it also includes further rigid plating to reinforce it further.

Rune Armour
Rune Armour is a protective wraithbone armour suit psychically moulded to its Eldar recipient. It provides greater protection than other, bulkier forms of armour, in part because its psychic energy can deflect a shot or blast before it hits the armour. Even lascannons and Plasma Weapons can be turned aside by Rune Armour. Rune Armour is worn only by Farseers and Warlocks.

More here. https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Eldar_Equipment_(List)

The bit that anon is thinking is cloth underlay is actually also armor, the plates are just in addition to it.

>>96297015
They seem fine. Most of their stuff is kinda weak aside from the doomsday arks. C’tan are scary but expensive enough that once you’re used to dealing with them you can handle the 1 or 2 your opponent can afford to bring. TSK is fucking terrifying but I haven’t actually had to play against him often enough to gauge why.

>>96297051
All aspect warriors have 5+ invulns, all of their tanks have 4+ invulns. I’ve had full blown crashouts from someone’s banshees or fire dragons spiking on their 5+ and rolling me up like a cheap carpet.

>>96297039
fuck yeah anon weird xenos tree that make skull shaped fruit is a cool idea.
Rather than have people be reborn maybe their soul should be consumed and digested to provide the energy to grow another chaos xenos tree. A bit more grimdark than the nice sounding idea of being reborn as a tree imo

>>96296997
Let anon enjoy his nifty Knight collection anon, who says you have to actually play the game? 10th Edition is shit anyway.

>>96297000
>nah
yeah

>>96297051
vehicles, aspect warriors, and rangers for some reason

>>96297076
I played with my Wolves not my Knights, the Knights are too strong.

>>96297084
Grey Knights once again not beating the "retard faction" rumours.

White

>>96297065
I was thinking it would tap into the more honorable warrior aspect of khorne but I like your grimdark version of it.

>>96297084
I can't read this graph. What are the "balanced" factions?

>>96297141
bruh inside the box labeled balance lolololol

>>96297154
The symbols are completely illegible

>>96296885
Yeah, no. No one has a "normal" outlook towards technology in 40k. Also, you are fixating on my choice in extended taglines when I told you not to.
>tagline is in the grimdark future, there is only war
>besides chaos causing trouble, every other faction is a shadow of its former self still on the decline
>tone, theme, setting sand box, all point towards a future filled with war and angst
>'omg, why is everything so depressing, it doesn't make sense, i need a wholesome chungus faction to represent me at all times"
Unparalleled faggotry is to pick up 40k and go "i don't like this, this is too depressing. people actually into this have issues" every chance you get.

Does anyone else feel like Crusade is hard to keep track of after the 2nd or 3rd game?
Trying to remember which units have battle honors/scars, what extra upgrades or relics and shit they have. Even worse you have to remember what the enemy has. Its a god damn nightmare.

>>96297141
>Balanced
Blood Angels
CSM
Craftworld Eldar
Dark Eldar
Emperor's Children
Guard
Tyranids
>Quadrant 1
Black Templars
Custodes
Grey Knights
Orks
Space marines
Votann
>Quadrant 2
Chaos Knights
Death Guard
Genestealer Cults
Imperial Knights
World Eaters
>Quadrant 3
AdMech
Dark Angels
Necron
Space Wolves
>Quadrant 4
Chaos Daemons
Deathwatch
Sisters of Battle
Tau
Thousand Sons

>>96297006
why are you posting someone elses models anon

>>96297177
simplified not simple

>>96296500
That entire tagline was always only meant for the Imperium, the entire paragraph is just talking about the Imperium and state of humanity.
Only time xenos are mentioned is as being enemies of mankind.

>>96297084
>CWeldar and Deldar balanced on both skill levels
What will the excuses be this time?

>>96297084
Honestly the game looks in a pretty good state right now sans knights, who should be getting tuned back pretty soon.

Hoping we get some more detachment reworks soon.

>>96297210
Too many rerolls that is my only complaint

>>96297084
Knowing from experience, if Salamanders were still a faction they'd be in the middle at 50%.

>>96297235
too many rerolls, and we need to like.. half the number of attacks from everything I think. game is far too lethal.

>>96297235
>>96297282
Funny, I remember GW saying something about less rerolls and less lethality when they were marketing 10th edition...

>>96297292
DONT BELIEVE THEIR FUCKING LIES

>>96297235
>>96297282
>>96297292
GWs design intent rarely survives half an edition, that's nothing new.

These days they gotta listen to a huge chunk of the playerbase whine about balance issues that often only really effects the top 3% of players or so.
It's no wonder that powercreep is an issue in responds.

I take far more umbrage with how much of a nothing burger Battleshock have turned out to be, and the fact that they murdered the Psychic phase.

>>96297282
I also would like for my 3 hour games to be 7 instead, big thinks lad

>>96297325
>These days they gotta listen to a huge chunk of the playerbase whine about balance issues that often only really effects the top 3% of players or so.
>It's no wonder that powercreep is an issue in responds.
This is the same reason fighting games have died.

>>96297351
GW knows better than to only balance for the highest skill level. Or rather, they don't but they're so incompetent at balance that it doesn't matter anyway because the balance swings side to side like a pendulum. Half their rules decisions are based on selling new models anyways.

>>96295485
my gym is full of women built like this how do I work up the nerve to talk to them.
They gotta be single right? what kinda woman goes to the gym without their partner?

>>96297325
>battleshock
My group just skips the check. It never does anything and makes the turns that much longer.

>>96297192
yeah, just forget that the setting began this way and is human centric lmao. totally isn't supposed to set the entire tone of the setting lol

Is it a meme that you have to wait 24 hours for the primer to dry? It says 15 minutes on the rattle can.
>inb4 rattle can in the the year of our lord 2025 use an airbrush
I simply don't wanna clean it, seems like a hassle.

>>96297084
Where are nids? Thats a GSC symbol

>>96297395
Dude I have literally waited like 5-10 mins before I started painting over primer.

>>96297395
>Is it a meme that you have to wait 24 hours for the primer to dry
It's usually advised yes but since you're most likely using a gw rattlecan which is not a primer you can paint over it as soon as its dry to the touch

>>96295675
blah, blah, something, something, fart smeller...

>>96297395
you can't be too careful, anon
i have a couple of boxes that have been curing for years

>>96297412
>>96297418
Guess I could wait just to be on the safe side. Suppose it'll be vidya instead of hobbying tonight.

>>96297444
lol XD

>>96297452

>>96297406
>Where are nids?

Dunno why they use that idiotic 70% black background colour, white is perfectly functional.

>>96297282
>>96297292
>>96297210

In terms of lethality, GW is in an interesting catch 22.
By far the most frustrating and anti-fun mechanic in the game is the proliferation of 4++ saves rendering everything a coinflip. A lot of traditional Anti-Tank weapons are kind of shit because low volume of attacks.
This leads to this gigantic mix where if your army has 4++ or 5++ on your vehicles they feel tanky, but if you have no invuln you are made of paper outside of things like the Rogal Dorn.
This leads to hull spam. Tanks are too tanky because the game isn't lethal enough. In terms of attacks, GW gave way too many things in the game [Blast]. A lot of weapons are D6+3 Blast which is often between 5-11 attacks.

The final issue is the damage numbers. Damage 3 is everywhere. There are way too many units that have access to mass damage 3 attacks that end up mulching what are supposed to be elites (i.e. Space Marine Gravis). Marine Terminators also kind of suck and so you end up with the standard marine army trending towards hullspam just because out of the FIVE major armour types, one and a half are viable (Gravis is too fragile for how slow and limited their buffs are, Terminators suck in codex with no damage output, Firstborn is in gay baby jail, and most Phobos units have already been kneecapped or are just support units).

I think a lot of things in the game that are Damage 3 (Especially Damage 3 blast weapons) need to go down from d6+3 Blast or d6+1 Blast to just a flat d6 Blast. This includes Votaan's shit, Doomstalkers, MBH, forgefiends et all.
I'd say in order to properly balance lethality, you need to do a whole mixture of things. Move a lot of 4++ saves to 5++ including on many elites, reducing a lot of D3 down to D2, and lower the number of attacks on a lot of units. This then lets you drop tank Hull Points down a little.

Halve the number of attacks, remove toughness/to wound rolls, no feel no pain, no rerolls, no roll to charge, reduce movement distances, no pick up and redeploy, no strategems or enhancements

best you can do with a 32mm scale full of tanks and monsters that has to be played on a <6x4 board.

>>96297479
>>96297505
GW knows this edition was a cluster and 11th will be what we all thought 10th would be.

>>96297505
>remove [the things that make 40k 40k]
play a different game

>>96297173
>every other faction is a shadow of its former self still on the decline
tyranids aren't, orks for the longest time haven't been
necrons haven't forgotten the power of technology
eldar are not afraid to research tech

the tagline is descriptive for the imperium, but it's not something you apply blindly to everything and everyone, if you don't understand that other factions don't have to be the same as the imperium then not only you don't understand 40k, you don't actually like 40k, you only like the imperium

The only change I want for the game is this
>Remove - Command Reroll as a generic strategem
Replace it with
>Desperate Charge
>When a unit fails a charge roll, pay 1 CP. Roll 1d6 and add 6 to it - this is now your charge distance

>>96297523
>tyranids aren't
>loses five invasion fleets
>necrons destabilized by tribal tier wars, no longer united against anything

>>96297528
>replace widely used and popular stratagem that works for everyone with niche stratagem that favors melee armies
Found the Blood Angelfag.

>>96297512
>and 11th will be what we all thought 10th would be.
I wouldn't jinx it.

>>96297063
Falcons and fire prisms don't have an invuln at all. Wave Serpents have a 5+

>>96297555
Each edition is themed to upset something to make players feel like they need to purchase more of their army to meet the requirements.

I'm betting its a force organization chart of some kind. Like one battle line unit for every 2 of something else, or whatever.

Was the Pariah Nexus book ever scanned?

>>96297532
>>tyranids aren't
yes, tyranids aren't
and no, necrons having political strife doesn't suddenly make them retarded when it comes to their approach to technology

if you don't like tau, you simply don't like 40k

>>96297523
>nids are starving, lost fleets after fleets
>implying korks, eldar, and necron haven't been brutally maimed since the war in heaven
>kroks literally degenerated to orks
>necrons have robo dementia and viruses
>eldar lost their entire culture and have reformed in 4 ways,
>all centered entirely around escaping slaanesh
>"normal relationship with technology" is using your dead ancestors as power packs and cpus
>says imperium players don't know the setting or other factions
you're a lost cause, m8

>>96297573
Necrons lost their material to make the star slaying weapons.

Necrons losing their minds over time, and are worse than when they were fighting the old ones and C'tan. They degenerate, they don't advance. That's part of their curse.

Tyranids evolve, but have hard limits to what they can do. Evolutionary hard wall. Limited to what they can ingest of others, and they've tasted everyone by now.

Tau advancing is still leagues lesser than the pre heresy 40k stuff. Their armors resemble terminator suits but have lesser saves. Much bulkier for that 3+.

>>96297567
I won't go back to the guardian tax
I won't go back to the guardian tax
I won't go back to the guardian tax

>>96297523
>tyranids
In the ultimate guide and some codexes have pointed towards where tyranid organisms are more and more developing their own minds even personalities.
Which could fracture the hivemind and lead to different hiveminds.
Also malstrain exist now and show that tyranids are not immune to genetic fuckery and toxins which can horribly mutate them. Galaxy is a dangerous place even for nids.
>orks for the longest time haven't been
Orks are a degenerated form of the Krork, who were superior compared to modern orks, they are in a decline even if they spread fast and wide.
>necrons
Are no longer a united collective ruled by a single monarch and are multiple different dynasties who trying to survive on their own and many even fight amongst themselves
>eldar are not
They are a dying race who will never regain their dominance of the galaxy and they majorly live either im abject moral degeneracy or in a self imposed rigid path system because otherwise Satan will eat their ass if they venture off the path. Or they become Amish or they join Clown College.

>>96297597
guess what, you can use kabalites for that now

>>96296046
you're a genuine retard if you think that was a legitimate statement

>>96297583
>>nids are starving
no, they aren't
>>lost fleets after fleets
and all along they were the tip of the iceberg
>>korks
a later addition from a hack writer who doesn't know what adding that means for the faction, orks for the longest time weren't in decline, in the slightest
eldar came out of the war in heaven victorious and their empire went through an unrivalled golden age after it, their decline happened only in the present of the setting, and didn't make them retards afraid of innovation like humans are
necrons were never presented as being a shadow of themselves before the retcon, and while they have been depicted as greatly damaged afterwards, they're not in decline, they're back on the rise, and again, aren't dumb about their own technology

that intro is for the imperium, it doesn't apply to everyone and everything

>>96297610
Only by running stinky Yvraine

>>96297624
Nids are losing biomass in total, not gaining it. Every single media including tyranids are them eventually losing their fleet/splinter fleet after buildup of winning some.

Doesn't matter how many thousands of worlds stripped if you meet an end. Your shit being thrown into a star or being eaten by orks.

>>96297602
>tyranid organisms are more and more developing their own minds even personalities
that's just a paragraph introducing the tyranid special character models
>Which could fracture the hivemind and lead to different hiveminds.
that's just headcanon
>Also malstrain
that's just a few fags in a crater of one planet

these things don't make the tyranids a shadow of their former selves still on the decline

>>96295440
Kitbash/Diorama/more art piece focused could be cool.

If the Astronomicon relies on the the Golden Throne and Big E has only been plugged into it since the Horus Heresy, what did the Imperials do for navigation before that?

I have a question.
Why do the navigators tolerate their sons and daughters being roughly treated by the Black Templars?
Would they fuck over the Templars for the insult?

>>96297635
>Nids are losing biomass in total
no, they aren't, no source is ever addressing the total amount of biomass they have or whether they gain more than they lose in total

>Every single media including tyranids are them eventually losing their fleet/splinter fleet after buildup of winning some.
survivor bias, not many are bold enough to write a story about the aliens winning, especially when your average consumer is a kid high on the power fantasy of marines, that doesn't cancel the fact that in the actual background, the tyranids are only increasing in numbers of fleets and of tyranids per fleet and encroaching more around the galaxy than ever before, and infiltrating deeper and deeper into the imperium, and developing more and more new advanced organisms

>>96297640
>headcanon
It's not, that is what the ultimate guide speculates. The hivemind can fracture.
Also my point about the malstrain is that, they prove tyranids can be fucked up permanently on a genetic level. The genetic fuckery happened once on Necromunda, it can happen again on another planet that is sufficiently toxic or genetically degrading.

>>96297616
>responding to bait from 6 hours ago
But why

>>96297668
>survivor bias
It is not.
>not many are bold enough to write a story about the aliens winning
Copium.

>>96297668
NTA
Can we bring up Gladius lore into this discussion?

>>96297677
That's not bait, that's a legitimate schizophrenic who plagues this general.

>>96297655
sub ftl or extremely short hops crossfixed with celestial navigation. There are plenty of non navigator craft in the modern Imperium.

>>96297666
Maybe there is a navigator house that breeds a humiliation kink into their scions for use with the Black Templars?

>>96297685
>responding to a legitimate schizophrenic 6.5 hours later
This isn't any better but why

>>96297666
the templars think noble psykers are special and divine. its literally posted in a codex clip ITT

>>96297706
Not the navigators and Astropaths. The 9th and 10th edition codexes say that the Black Templars abuse them.

>>96297706
nope, got retconned to not be retarded and inconsistent finally

>>96297521
yes, remove the garbage legacy systems that make the game bad and unfixable otherwise

>>96297720
no it says astropaths not navigators

We frigpostan, we frenspostan
>high resolution image below
https://files.catbox.moe/7cfwla.png

>>96297741
It says that psykers help operate their ships. The Astropaths are given as an example.
The 9th ed dex mentions navigators being cruelly treated

>>96297747
>All Slopper Banned for life!

Only 1 person is banned and it is political.

>>96297724
How is it retarded? Astropaths are literally touched by the Emperor.

Evens I paint something
Odds I have a wank

>>96297785
Why isn't anyone else banned then? Are you claiming that the decalsloppers takes and opinions are completely unique

>>96297785
>>96297824
samefag

>>96297785
>>96297824
shut the fuck up, faggot

>>96297826
?

>>96297785
>>96297824
Kill yourself samefagging subhuman

96297833
>literally from his phone
not even worth the (you)

Now this is some organic posting

>>96297747
It honestly brings a smile to my face seeing my big boy up there.

>>96297863
>>96297747
I like the eldar corner with Lhykis, the d cannon and the titan

>>96297819
>Not multitasking.

This takes me back to the anon that was jerking it while building and got a guardsman glued to his dick.

Good times.

>>96297624
My final conclusion to the greentext is that people are insisting on playing a grim dark setting of a game, despite hating grim dark stories. Unless you have an actual argument supporting the fags complaining there's grim dark in Warhammer, consider this the last (you).

Not even your nitpicks over this make sense:
Nids are starving. Even without the fact that they've lost biomass, the only thing we know for sure about them is unrelenting hunger. Denying it biomass will only cause it to need to feed more.

>"that intro is for the imperium,"
>still latching onto that when I said the issue is people don't like the setting being depressing and "grim dark"
>I don't like the War in Heaven, so you're wrong.
You don't get to balkanize canon like that, anon.

>>96297602
>In the ultimate guide and some codexes have pointed towards where tyranid organisms are more and more developing their own minds even personalities.
>Which could fracture the hivemind and lead to different hiveminds.
>they're growing so much that they're suffering the consequences of growing too much
It's like everyone's starving but you're overfed and now sad because your chair is broken.

>>96297874
>Nids are starving.
No, they aren't.

>>96297863
Glad I got you up there fren your dudes are cool
>>96297864
It made me really happy when we started getting more eldarfrens. I'm hoping we get more sistersfrens over time, cause they seem underrepresented on the fridge

>>96297874
>people are insisting on playing a grim dark setting of a game, despite hating grim dark stories
yes, that's imperialfags, not taufags.
taufags see their empire set against unknown horrors far larger and ancient than them, their naivety makes them tragic preys.
imperialfags seethe and moan about the cruelty of the imperium being absolutely necessary and justified, where one of the most grim and dark elements of the imperium is that there are alternatives to the path humanity has taken.
the existence of factions like the votann and the tau don't rob the setting of grimdark, they underline it further by contrast.

if you don't understand this you simply don't understand 40k, and if you don't understand 40k then you simply don't like 40k.

>>96297914
You too fren!

If I wasn't posting the big boy I would have submitted big mama here instead.

Speaking of which, are any of the pictures your models? I'm curious.

anyone got examples of a venerable dreadnaught they managed to get in a more dynamic pose than just standing there?

>>96297602
Isn't the ultimate guide like a coffee table book with heavily abridged and paraphrased lore passages for secondaries/normies? Wasn't there some big fit when it released about it having a bunch of contradictions.

>>96297962
The Necron section is a mess that contradicts itself

>>96297962
>the official lore book made by GW about the canon of the setting non-canon and wrong
Ok

>>96297935
My models must remain unknown in order to maintain order and minimize shitposting. Please understand. They're on the fridge somewhere with all the other frens if it makes you feel better. Also your avatar is really cool.

>>96297977
That's exactly how normal Necron lore is. They're a faction made entirely of retcons.

It sure is nice being on page 7 and not having someone spam a new thread 2 hours early.

>>96298009
>This post is off-topic.

>>96297983
I have no idea, I just remember people whining when it came out. It doesn't bother me, cause if I got one it'd be so guests/friends could flip through it. Doesn't really matter to me if it's all accurate the lore changes all the time

>>96297684
no its a shit and boring ass game

>>96297937
I think the most posing you are gonna get out of him is heavily dictated by how dynamic you place the feet.

A slight tilt forward and to the side while pointing the weapon level could give you a good firing pose, for instance.

That will involve cutting a few things and reposing, I recommend looking at how knights players do it in large scale first... Which I of course can't find right now for you but it's out there.

>>96297747
Fridgeking my beloved

>>96298029
A Votann DLC is in the works, though....

I think GW needs to do something to make the Black Legion cooler instead of just being generic chaos space marines. Give them some flavour, something interesting and unique to them. They're the main antagonists supposedly and no one gives a fuck about them, it's silly.

>>96297993
Considering the current thread environment I fully understand.

>>96298059
They specialize in being black crusaders and massed terminator assaults. What more do you want?

>>96298059
Yeah, them, and thousand sons, are super fucking generic as fuck right now.

>>96297937
asking for pics of a dynamically posed boxnaught is like asking for pics of a big rig that can fly.

>>96298061
A good reminder that you should never shitpost attach any opinions to your models really. That's just asking for trouble in this shithole.

>>96298071
Every chaos legion is noticeably more unique and interesting than the Black Legion, just give them something, anything to make them stand out

>>96298103
No.

>>96298097
Sad but true. It could even be something fairly innocuous and people will latch onto it and sperg out for months

>>96296680
They lost all but one source of Ignores Cover though so you just need to kill their Thunderkyn and they can't do anything.

>>96297993
I get it. Imagine the chaos a certain someone would stir up if he knew which modelposter you are. The less we know about you and the collage guy the better.

THE RAPED

maybe I should collect dark eldar

why should/shouldnt I?

>>96298039
fair enough, I've kinda copied the approach the EoB guy took in a video from years ago by just building up terrain/rubble to one side

I miss PDFanon

>>96298193
Theyre about to get refreshed

>>96298201
ok and?
I like the 2011 range

>>96298207
So then you should collect them now while you can before they release shittier updated sculpts. I cant think of a single updated 40k model that looks better than its older counterpart

>>96298173
>>96298061
>>96297993
Are collage king and fridge king the dark angels of /40kg/ in regards to their dark secrets?

>>96298193
They're about to get squatted

>>96298216
New terminators are hard to find a fault with. They're pretty much perfect updates

>>96298235
Theyre soulless corpo slop

>>96297934
>make up singular thought process
>apply it to everyone choosing faction
lel, retard
>everyone moralizes this much about their faction
lmao, no
>taufags enjoy grim dark more because they get to fantasize of being good guys
nice try
>tau AND votann are needed for contrast
no

2/10
just retarded enough to get me to respond

>>96298219
No. Theyre anonymous posters.

>>96298219
they are not the poster we deserved.

But the ones we need right now.

>>96298197
What you lookin?

>>96298047
Mechanicus 2 will be kinoer for space stunties

>>96298193
You should
>Collect the models you think are cool
>Jump on them quickly because they will either be refreshed or see large range reductions come 11th
>buy models based on aesthetics, because last codexes in an edition age poorly
>try and find the combat patrol if you like boats

You should not
>let /40kg/ decide for you
>let /40kg/ influence your opinion of their aesthetics
>let /40kg/ tell you which units are good(they don't know what will happen in 11th or in the 10th codex)
>let /40kg/ tell you your opinion sucks because of lore

>>96298244
Okay, how about some tangible, meaningful words as to why they are a bad refresh instead of just buzzwords

>>96297751
>[...] when the Second Founding occurred the Imperial Fists sired two successor Chapters.
No, they definitely begat more than two.

>>96298287
That's expecting an awful lot from 40kg

>>96298279
>let /40kg/ influence your opinion of their aesthetics
NTA but I will admit I only post my models for (You)s because I'm a dirty attention whore and if i get negative feedback on my models it makes me want to kms

>>96298287
How about no?

>>96298289
Name them then.

>>96298297
I mean even if that's the case, you still pick your models/army based on your own personal tastes right? Like you wouldn't start an army you hate the aesthetics of just to make us happy, would you? Please say no

>>96297935
collagefag is O&Tfag
same with fridgefag
>both collage and fridge feature his model larger than most others and dead center

>>96298311
Silver Lions
Necropolis Hawks
Hospitallers
Marines Malevolent
Iron Ravens
Emperor's Spears

Just to name a few.

>>96298307
I accept your concession

>>96298297
Just become so good that you won't get any negative feedback :^)

>>96298320
If theyre gonna do the work of maintaining the collages and fridges thats fine by me.

>>96298311
Black Templars, Crimson Fists, Fists Exemplar. All three of them were founded with captains of the old legion as their first chapter master.

>>96298320
>everyone I don't like is the same person
Sure would be convenient for you if this were the case

>>96298324
This is the plan.
I want to start entering local painting competitions in order to really push myself to improve.

>>96298334
Did I say anything about disliking him?

>>96298320
Who cares who it is. Everyone is welcome on their collages, nobody has a reason to beef with either of them

How have dark eldar played historically? Am i fucked if I only want to play with the cock and ball torture dudes?

>>96298354
God I love those dudes

>>96298342
I mean clearly yeah, given you're being petty about the size of people's photos and calling him a fag

>>96298320
He wasn't on julys college though, right?

>>96298342
Its pretty obvious anon.

>>96298320
This kinda thing is the reason O&Tfag left. Just let him go.

>>96298354
>>96298279

>want to post progess on thousand son rubric w/ bone trim
>know I shouldn't until he's done
I gotta stay focused.

>>96298368
He came back like a week ago, he was hanging out posting wips of his dudes again

>>96298193
the only reason not to is because the spiky little bastards are forever breaking.

>>96298374
He did? Cool.

>>96298373
At least finish his arms and legs. Then you can give us an update on that, and then an update when you do the head, and one for the backpack. Ignore the spergs here who can't cope with seeing a model twice, they're just desperate for the dopamine of seeing new models because they haven't painted anything in some time

>>96298059
>>96298103
To me, picrel is what's cool about Black Legion, but nobody ever plays with it

>>96298193
Pros:
>Amazing models
>Speedy ultra glass cannon playstyle unlike most other armies
>3 mini factions in 1
>Amazing combat patrol box (for now)
Cons
>A bunch of stuff is OOP resin
>Might be refreshed or soft squatted soon

>>96298103
Same can be said about the Ultramarines or Cadians. Its the fate of being the generic vanilla choice.

>>96298377
Ngl, the idea of transporting a deldar boat list make me want to neck myself. Also
>IMG_8252_jpg.jpg
Pic related

>>96298385
I'm digging hazard stripe TSons! You sure he's Black Legion? :D

>>96298385
I've always found it surprising that more people don't buy boxes of every cult marine and legionaire kit and just smash them together for BL

>>96298401
Probably because its expensive

>>96298397
>IMG_8252_jpg.jpg
>Pic related
Just as planned.

>>96298354
You play a extremely speedy glass cannon.

You can absolutely play them but they aren't very forgiving.

If you can cage with boats/incubi/court while using kabalites to sticky objectives you are gonna win just fine.

A couple of sleeper units are the Beast master and his palls, they push up the middle on their own and for not too many points, and provides you a basic anvil in a army that sorely lacks one. They die, but they keep the other guy busy for a turn while you get in position.

Mandrakes are STUPIDLY good due to up/down tricks while plinking damage out.

Your must have are the Scourges for their anti tank power.

Add seasoning with Homunculi units, wrych cults (The hellions are so overlooked it's criminal).

One thing to note, however is IF the refreshIcanfeelitanon ever get his wish, we likely lose a lot of these units in their current form, I will almost put money on the fact we'll lose the beastmaster for instance. I pray for the court. As well as if we get a full reflesh (doubt) we will likely use most of our multipart kits which will become the new Cad made crap when you can't free pose. We would in this case probably also lose the mass weapon loadout on the Scourges so keep that in mind.

In all likelyhood we will just get a character, like the one we have seen, and lose some finecast, that's that.

Hope that helps.

>>96298409
So are titans and thunderhawks and non cadian guardsmen armies and I've seen at least a handful of those kicking around irl

>>96297824
Exactly

How the fuck do I beat Tomb Kings as Necrons?

>>96298416
You're right. I concede the point.

>>96298436
Introduce them to this guy named The Deceiver, he'll handle the rest.

>>96298354
the best way to explain Dark Eldar is as follows

They have a unit that can kill nearly anything in the game without -1 damage in a single activation, but it requires you to jump through several hoops and if you ever fuck up that unit will die instantly.
They have the most annoying anti-tank in the game and it completely destroys gunline armies.
They have the best army rule in the game but if you mismanage it you instantly lose the game

They have some of the best objective control in the game and will literally just annoy you to death on objectives
The basic troop unit has a schizo loadout but it also has access to Sustained Hits 2 + Lethals so randomly the basic infantry squad can blow up a tank
They have a generic character so good that it genuinely seems like a shitpost.

Several of their units are very good but out of print or in terrible boxes with notably one of their best units being in a box so bad that it has under 1.0 points per dollar

Playing Dark eldar is SUFFERING. But if you get good, you make THEM suffer too.

>>96298478
Pretty fitting.

>>96298436
Take droidekas

>>96298436
Nobody plays tomb kings

>that feminine urge to buy more shit even though I've got enough tools and models to build and paint already

>>96298478
Man that sounds like a massive fucking headache.

>>96298478
Yeah, it's a huge fucking headache to play but it's very unique and extremely rewarding when you get it right. If you do it right then from the other side of the table it seems like you are just blowing everything up and not letting them hit you at all. But most people don't realize you're walking a tightrope about to get fucked at any given second if you misplay and you are only surviving by clever usage of line of sight blocking and transport cycling And perfectly allocating exactly enough damage to kill what you need to kill without making an unfavorable trade.

I will say they are possibly the most annoying Army in the game to transport though and you will constantly be snagging and breaking hooks and chains and blades off of them so bring glue.

>>96298541
welcome to warhammer 40 gorillion

enjoy ur stay

Oh, rage comics... It is good to see you, old friend.

>>96298574
take me fucking back goddamnit

>>96298360
>>96298365
schizoshit

Have another poem 40 kilograms:


Whose sprues are these on the windowsill?
This pot of Nuln Oil just spilled,
I swore I’d stop ... yet here I hover,
Clicking “Buy,” one more layer of clutter.

Who let this pot of Agrax run dry?
I swore, “No more shades till pigs fly,”
yet at 3 a.m. I hit “Add,”
because the last one dried up ... too bad!

Whose pile of shame is this? It’s mine.
Ten Termagants unpainted? Fine!
A Knight half-built, his face still bare,
Yet I’m stalking brand-new Sororitas flair!

There’s a stack of bases I don’t recall,
A drill whose bit’s too small, too tall.
A wet palette crusted shut with grey,
And still I whisper, “Just one more spray…”

Whose cubby’s crammed with decals?
Whose shelf bows under extra sprues?
Who needs four pots of Wraithbone white?
Apparently me. Every night.

There’s a sprue of Sisters I meant to build,
A box of Orks still shrink-wrapped filled
With dreams of dakka I’ll never run.
But eBay whispered: “Rare! Just one!”

Whose house is this? It’s mine, I know.
But Games Workshop keeps running the show.
I swear I’m done. I’ve got enough.
But look! New cultists! In gothic stuff!

So here I sit, beneath the heap,
My wallet thin, my backlog deep.
I whisper to the Emperor above:
“Just one more kit ... I swear! ...it’s love.”

>>96298660
Lmao these are good anon

>page 7

>>96298246
>are needed
they are not "needed" but they do add contrast
if we had to remove everything that wasn't needed from 40k we would be left with only orks, genecults, the admech and the militants of the inquisition and ecclesiarchy

You're also making up some other wildly schizophrenic shit about what you think I said
the fact is: you don't actually like 40k, you only like the imperium, and even then you most definitely fall in the group of retards who think they like grimdark, but actually end up shaving away its edges for what concerns their own shit

>>96298343
pfft!

>>96298660
Great work anon!

I will however forever have a weakness for "dip your nips".

>>96298343
Well, there is one subhuman who has beef with both collage kings
LMAO

>>96298768
Tips damnit, TIPS! : (

>>96298784
Shouldnt their heads be bigger?

>>96298320
The guy making the collages is actually the throoder, he's the only one attempting to moderate the thread
He made the collages with the sole purpose of excluding the decalfag to drive him away due to his politics
Which is both hilarious and extremely sad, since it means this thread doesn't manage to organically create anything as a community, it's schizos acting on spite all the way down

>>96298796
Genuinely kill yourself
You're beyond even professional help

>>96298796
Cringe falseflag

>>96298796
Do you really need to come up with some fucking schizo theories on why someone would want to do a small community project? Like holy fuck do you not realize how crazy you sound?

>>96298796
>complaining about schizos
Where do you think we are?

>>96298779
Sure. "Tips" they say.

>>96298796
weird shit right here

>>96298574
The Adepta Sororitas one is actually pretty fitting.

>>96298796
I wonder who is behind this post

>>96298796
Posts like this are the reason why I would've left this shithole long ago if I knew of a better place

Why does the imperium use winged servitor babies? Surely they werent old enough to commit a crime worthy of being turned into a servitor. How do they decide which babies get the "treatment"?

>>96298849
>>96298849
>>96298849

New?

>>96298847
They make them

Because they look cool and pious

>>96298847
they're cloned waxy flesh, not real babies

>>96298796
Seems you struck a nerve anon

>>96298886
Samefag less niggerfaggot

>>96298047
Destiny 2's still ongoing?

>>96298796
Big if true
>immediate new agents spamthread
Big

>>96295093
>Any hope for a remake of the Legion of the Damned kit?
Yes
>>96295104
Legion of the Damned would be one of, if not the, most unique Space Marines by all being warp entities. You could do plenty of unique stuff based on that.

>>96295865
>the only faggot marines are dark angels
Things jealous chapters say to bring the First Legion down.