Thread 96336617

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>>96332767

Thread question:
You have control over gw’s social media. What do you do with this power?

>tq
I announce a great marine range squatting like the storm cast squatting and watch the salt flow.

I legit don't think there's a problem with any of the old models and I'm really starting to think Primarisfag is a schizoid who has lived in this thread for too long.

>>96336617 (OP)
>TQ
Post the new Ctan shard with a ayyyy lmao text as well as other 5+ year old memes so I can fellow kid the community

>tfw playing a game against salamanders soon where the opponent is running 3x3 aggressors all with flame gauntlets

It's thematic but with no transport it seems a little memey

>>96336617 (OP)
Join the Salamanders TODAY!!!!

Should I avoid all Chaos warp entities (Such as Demon Prince, Obliterators etc) in my Night Lords army?

I like the idea that Night Lords truly believe they're the good guys.

>>96336635
I mean there isnt with orks, we can use just about anything from the last 30 odd years and the entire range still holds up after decades

>>96336635
There are plenty(of reasons to hate firstborn) and if they were still in production over the kings we have now I would flock towards other wargames because firstborn are TRASH

>halfway done painting a model
>abandon project and start painting new model
>repeat cycle

Why am I like this?

>>96336642
This makes sense so long as you ignore the BL books, though I think most people in the generals do that already.

>>96336645
Ehhhh visually maybe. Maybe this is a skill issue but the Stompa needs an updated kit purely because it's kind of ass to construct even if it looks fine once it's done.

>>96336642
>I like the idea that Night Lords truly believe they're the good guys.
since when

>>96336635
It is just trolling for attention on /40kg/. Just report the trolling and move along.

>>96336661
Im hoping to buy a second hand stompa one day, for some reason I fucking hate building shit now and that just looks like a pain

>>96336649
you'll finish painting a model one day, dominateanon

>>96336662
It's maybe like an exaggeration of their lore. I guess. Im not sayin the books say this but Konrad saying all his commands came from the Emperor imply that he was working for the imperium. If it's true, you could argue he was a good guy. I'm not saying GW says this but I just like it as a bit of "maybe?" scenario.

>>96336649
Undiagnosed adhd

>>96336663
hating firstborn models that came out before 2014 is well and justified.

>>96336677
>remember that lazy git
He has painted models he just stopped for whatever reason and stated making acrylic ink washes.

>>96336700
Found it. He says he is bogged down.
>>96334469
If you’re reading this hurry up.

>>96336610
They're just wildly underwhelming and you can spend your points better

>>96336719
Oof welp I got 9 of them

>>96336662
The Haunter was right.

>New Blood Angels player joins the group
>Somewhat green, previously played at an LGS full of Waac players who basically ragged him every game
>Very low confidence, plays as if any interactions will wipe out his units
>Doesn't understand action economy, pressure, trading units or creating speed bumps
>In a last game against world eaters, he refused to move any of his models outside of his deployment zone despite bringing mass jump packs and getting the first turn
>mfw
What the fuck goes on in these game stores? Anyway we're going to try and slowly unbreak this guy, he's managed to win one game against orks and I'll be playing my friend's same World eaters army against him this week. Cynically looking forward to sharing the results.

>tfw snikrot doesnt have fights first

i get that hes an ork but for fuck sake

>>96336742
Man this games ugly as fuck. They really need to primaris this game.

>>96336754
im guessing its due to the waac dudes not showing him how to play, not giving him pointers in games and just being awful human beings. if i get rinsed my someone they tend to tell me how i fucked up and what i couldve done to stop it from happening

>>96336649
How many caffeinated drinks do you regularly consume anon?

>>96336635
>I legit don't think there's a problem with any of the old models
Nah. Fuck you. Centurions are dogshit.

>>96336809
Not the anon but
Does apple cider with ice (alcoholic) mean anything? Is it better to have ice water instead when painting?

>>96336823
Not inherently unless you have a tendency to binge drink.
>Is ice water better
Yes since you generally shouldn't drink your calories but if you only have a max of 1 alcoholic drink a day it shouldn't be an major issue.

>>96336617 (OP)
End Narrative - Webway War
Lady Malys + Prince Yriel vs Huron Blackheat + Unknown

Who do you think the unknow is gonna be? Dark Mechanicum / Vashtor, Perturabo?

are there wold eaters that still wear Horus heresy colors.

>>96336873
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Gladiator_Cadre_331

>>96336873
I’d hope not

You paid us $110 aud for 5 plastic minis?

Oh. In that case we won't even give you enough weapons in your pack to complete the datasheet.

Fuck you.

>>96336873
/yourdudes/ sure do

>>96336872
What is the chest harness thing called and where can I get one?

>>96336873
gladiator cadre 331

>>96336872
>Vashtor, looking for mcguffins to ascend
>Vulkan, returning from the Dark City
>tie-in a new Cawl book with him escaping from his upcoming back-in-time adventure with the Necrons using the webway somehow

>>96336904
>>96336913
>>96336928
>>96336941
nice. most based world eaters.

>>96336936
Bone Middens in Commorragh. On the northeast outskirts, looking for the store that sells human chairs and that's across the street from the candy store.

>>96336700
He has 3 half basecoated guardsmen. He finds a new reason every other month as to why he isn't doing anything. We've been seeing him post piles of bits for years saying he just needed to wait until these new legs showed up, or he just needed to wait for another box of bitz and then he can start, or he just needs to wait for his airbrush, or needs to learn to use his airbrush, or has clogged his airbrush, and now it's washes. At one point I was looking forward to his idea cause he seemed so excited about it, but he's proven he isn't actually that excited about and so I don't really care anymore. The fact that spideranon showed up out of nowhere and is utterly crushing him in terms of built models despite only working on it for a few months says enough.

>painting a model to a standard im happy with takes way too fucking long
I just cant anons. I cant paint to battle ready I have to paint to parade standard. I'll never get to play the game again this is taking so long

96336785

Joke. Troll. Medically retarded. I don’t care. You don’t get the (you) and I sincerely hope you get in a car crash. Cheers

>>96336785
Hey this guy >>96336977 is (You)ing you. Just thought you should know.

>>96336975
>I just cant anons. I cant paint to battle ready I have to paint to parade standard.
I am so very fucking happy I dont have that problem.

>>96336936
Disturbia has some cute ones, but you can get them anywhere online by searching for female chest/body harness

Any anons working on their passion projects?
Mine's a Krieg Kasrkin/Grenadier kitbash based off
this old artwork :)

>>96336986
Kek

>>96336989
Fuck kriegers. Thats a nice grenadier.

>>96336920
jeez anon what unit was that? it wasnt directly from gw was it?

>>96336989
Wanted to paint him since I was 13. Not sure what to do now that I have him and he’s finally on the docket.

>>96336989
My Inquisition force is what preteen me always dreamt of having someday. Always going to have more to add and work on for it. Right now on my desk is a squad of battle sisters that might tag along sometimes, two more Inquisitors (Hector Rex and Solomen Lok) and an assassin.

>>96336920
I know it's not what you're talking about but I'm still pretty pissed with 10e Crisis Suits. Completely unnecessary.

>>96337001
Shovel meme shitposting is annoying and gay I
just hate painting faces. And I headcanon them not
being hyper-suicidal spergs

>>96336989
They're all my passion projects. If you play this game for tournament metas, you're completely retarded because hey here's some news for you- GW has down syndrome and can't do anything right.

>>96336975
progress over perfection anon, just get to a reasonable battle ready standard and practice painting quicker at that standard

>>96337028
>Shovel meme shitposting is annoying and gay I
>just hate painting faces.
I see we have more in common than not. I wish you good fortune butchering kasrkin/scion kits in your quest for grenadiers.

>>96336872
Badrukk

>>96337029
That might be the first nemesis dreadnaught I've seen that doesn't look like a giant baby carrier

>>96337018
White orange and green would look good on him.

>>96337051
>>96337021

>>96336989
Have a leviathan and contemptor I've been working on for a few months. Been holding off on sharing pics because I don't want to kill my excitement for it before it's done

>>96337054
perhaps even.. orange and teal.

>>96337055
>>96337051
thanks, here is the other one I've done so far.

>>96336989
I got sidetracked like 3 times since then, but I used a bunch of bits to make a kitbashed Dragoon for my admech. Its a combination of AoS Chaos Knights, Necromunda, Talos, and the dragoon kit proper.

>>96337093
Woah thats cool

>>96337050
Bingo

>>96337093
I'm not familiar enough with any of those kits to know which bits came from where or what you changed but it looks rad

>>96336872
Sliscus is the Drukhari pirate king, not Malys

>>96337093
Hot damn, good work anon

>>96337108
>oh noes he fricking got killed and stuff and now lady malys is pegging his bf bent over his grave!!1!!
See how little effort that takes to make a character disappear that nobody cares about

>>96337122
GW sales would drop if they did that.

Didnt get to paint today but I felt like I was blessed by the chaos gods out at the lgs today, so I had a great time.

>>96336742
replaying the campaign atm
Macha is such a dumb slut

>>96336977
Hey thats mean man, I just want the game to actually look playable and not be whatever mess that is.
>>96336986
thanks for letting me know man so I can communicate with him

>>96337127
Nobody knows who that guy is, nothing would change, the line would continue to go up

What does a Judiciar do? How does a space marine become a Judiciar? How do they decide if a guy becomes a judiciar or a company champion?

>>96337254
judiciars are chaplains in training

>>96337270
The fuck? So when they become a chaplain they get worse at fighting? Thats fucking stupid.

>>96337276
you dont see chaplains with big fuck off swords now do you

>>96337254
Judicars are to make Infernus Marines the most horrible thing to try and charge with a low armor save unit.
>3.5 average roll/attacks that auto hit on a overwatch
>they get first attacks at 30 attacks+judicar assassinating their characters

if marines were cheaper i'd get blood angels

>>96337276
Do not judge in-universe performance of things by their tabletop stats. They are completely different things.

>>96337276
Chaplains don't really lead from the front

>>96337319
The hell you say. Litanies of Hate has said attach my ass to something stabby as fuck and get stuck the fuck in since at least 3rd ed.

>>96337341
Yeah but he tells the guys>>96337319
how to stab, his bonks are more for moral support

I just read Assassinorum: Kingmaker.

Are there any other good books in the black library feature Imperial Knights prominently?

I'd like to read more about them.
>titans are less preferred, but also acceptable.

>>96337344
>his bonks are more for moral support
Ok fair enough.

>>96337351
>I just read Assassinorum: Kingmaker.
Was it any good?

>>96337370
same author as The Infinite and the Divine so it can't be too awful

>>96337370
>Short answer
Absolutely

>longer answer
If you like spy or heist novels/movies this is the best book (that I have encountered) of all of the black library.

After all I've heard about knights, they're pretty cool. This book made me want to obtain a small battle group and draft heraldry and learn to paint them.

I find it so hard to make /mydudes/ for warhammer its insane

>>96337466
Making /yourdudes/ is easy. Making /yourdudes/ that aren't cringe is much harder.

>>96336975
You mind posting a few of your models so far peep?

>>96337466
Just pick your favorite colours and have them do something cool in their fluff that gives you the excuse to take all the models you like the most

Anyone doin a little painting tonight?

>>96337351
>assassin cooch plastered on 27 screens in the cockpit
M8s got the view of a lifetime

>>96337505
Fuck off redditor

>>96337513
Calm down pip squeak

>>96337505
Shoo fecalslopper

>>96337523
So I take it you’re not painting

>>96336975
I 1000% have your problem. I always wanted an ork horde army but I spend too goddamn long with a single ork boy, to make his teeth shine, his green hues perfect with veins on his muscles, paint his gums pink, his guns perfectly rusty and worn.
Then I realise I have to painy hundreds of him...
I settled with Black Templars, but even then I'm straining with the fact I will have 2000 pts of non vehicle, non dreadnoughts almost pure footsloggers.
Its a grind.

>>96337505
naa just did up the basing on this guy and some other models.

>>96337528
Very cool, love your knights

You know, putting together the Sergeant out of the Tactical Squad box, and I have to say while the proportions are “out of date” the kit itself is a little too good compared to what you get nowadays in the Intercessor kits. Different helmet options, chest plate options, a back banner, and the way the torso connects to the legs technically give you more pose-ability to how the bits are cut nowadays. Some of the refreshed kits are a real joy like the Terminator kit, but the regular troops are a major downgrade.

>>96337528
did you cum all over your camera lens dude?

>>96336635
>I legit don't think there's a problem with any of the old models
Rosetinted nostalgia goggles.
Plenty of old models look fucking god awful, like centurions and dreadknight. Even the tacticals look like ass since it is evident that the sculpts are old as fuck with chunky details and terrible poses.

>replying to you know who

Just stop

>>96337528
Everyone should have at least one boxnaught that they built from scratch themselves. They're so much fun posing the little dudes. Love your steel tone also

>>96337557
>Even the tacticals look like ass
You shut your whore mouth.

>>96337560
We are having normal conversations, why try and make it about yourself..?

What are you all working on tonight?

>>96337566
My new Njal model

>>96337565
Really? Everybody telling you to kill yourself or fuck off of our board is normal conversation?

I-I’m actually gonna run out of plastic glue soon. Even though the Citadel bottle sucks I’m actually sort of sad for some reason.

>>96337570
I don’t see it that way at all, please calm down and stick to 40k

>>96337566
Trying to paint tankbustas while being distracted by everything around me

>>96337564
No. Fuck you.

>>96337574
Is that your first bottle or something?

>>96337574
Buy one bottle of Tamiya thin and then one bottle of Tamiya airbrush cleaner to refill. I promise you'll love it, it's crazy how much easier it is to work with in ways that can't possibly translate over text.

>>96337351
>laser sight on a scoped rifle

Why do artists keep doing this?

>>96337548
steam, took picture in the kitchen while some veggies were cooking lmao.

>>96337564
Do you own any painted ones, I've never seen a scheme that I liked on tacticals more than I liked it on primaris

>>96337595
Looks cool

>>96337566
Deciding whether or not I'm going to throw myself under the bus and start something for the collage despite not having much free time for the next bit

I wish female sisters of battle were real

>>96337643
Don't we all

>>96337643
Man, imagine the fanart.

Gooooooooooooooood Morning, 40kg!

Are you doing anything hobby related on this fine Sunday?

Trying to finish pic related and some seers to count as as a Warlock Conclave.

MIGHT get a small game in later if roommate does not sleep the whole god damn day away.

Will post battlereport if it happens.

>>96337655
Mulling over workflow for my next guy. I like having my ideas as concrete and calculated as possible for when I go to pick up the brush so I don't get stuck and set it aside.

>>96337655
gonna be working on two more of these tomorrow, but with old FW GK razorback guns

>>96336617 (OP)
>tq
release a lore update that expands the Emperor's past identities to include Nikola Tesla, Barron Trump, and Adolf Hitler.

Looking to start my second army soon after space marines with a combat patrol. I’m looking at Grey Knights, but I’m hesitant because i’m worried it may feel a little redundant after doing SMs.

Do the old sculpts feel really poopy nowadays? I’m worried the inevitable refresh is coming after i invest in them.

>>96337697
> i’m worried it may feel a little redundant after doing SMs.

they will

>Do the old sculpts feel really poopy nowadays?

they do

> I’m worried the inevitable refresh is coming after i invest in them.

it will

>>96337697
why not try something actually different

>>96337697
>choosing marines as a second army after marines
ishiggydiggy

>>96337707
I’m trying to narrow down a chaos or Xenos army i like, but 90% of my knowledge in 40k is giant steroid dudes with chainsaw swords.

>>96337576
Top left is me.

You anons are all I have.... should I kill myself?

>>96337722
do a traitor guard army. buy the blooded kill team to start.

>>96337722
necrons are fun.

big range, pretty much 100% modern plastic kits, space egypt stargate lore, has a shit ton of named characters but also significant yourdudes potential. can build melee or ranged, fast or slow, has combined arms and support characters but also has big fuckoff monster characters, and a decent array of tanks and flyers. very different aesthetic from space marines. easy but satisfying to paint

>>96337595
>devils advocate here
A few reasons could support this.
1.) He can and does engage in some close range use and point-shooting with that rifle. (Though he also has a pistol so reason is dumb)
2.) His mask has sophisticated sensors that may treat this laser point as a rangefinder or similar system (Best fit answer)
3.) Sigh, rule of cool.
4.) Intimidation purposes.
5.) Signaling to either of his more close range capable teammates.

This has been a devils advocate action. I also think it's dumb.

>>96337750
I’ll look into them. My friend has like 3000+ of Necs so I never really considered them, but he won’t give a shit.

>>96337722
Get into eldar

>>96337565
You like Space Wolves huh?

>>96337595
What's wrong with it?

>>96337808
Are Aeldari simple to paint? Easy to learn? I’ve been eyeing them or Orks for Xenos.

>>96337840
Pretty simple to paint, they're a bit smaller than marines but are mostly armour surfaces and not detailing.
Range is also fully updated and plastic now, since the last mini refresh.

As for playing I'd say they're middling? Unlike marines most infantry are T3 and relying on hitting hard and trading up plus high movement and movement tricks. They're mostly a glass cannon army (though nowhere near as bad as dark eldar) and you can either snowball a win or you make mistakes and get snowballed. Some unit choices can counteract this like wraithguard, which are T6, slow and basically eldar custodians in terms of ppm

>>96337860
Cool. I’m gonna check out some army showcases and battle reports on Youtube.

>>96337840

Eldar can be easy to paint, and allows for some good use of contrast and washes if you just want to get them done quickly. For instance Iyanden can be done with a simple yellow contrast, a quick drybrush of Screaming skull, and detail painting plus helmet.


Eldar also allows for some schemes that other races simply does not, imho. If you got the patience I highly recommend recces shading and a light base color you can clean up with.

You get away with very clean looks that does not make sense for things like the imperium or Chaos.

Paint wise one of the biggest upsides is you can paint every aspect as something different, so you don't go dead in a single color.

My friends chaos army is primary red and the amount of moaning I have had to listen to due to too much mono color is substantial.

Playwise it very much depend on the build you are going for. There are tons of guides out there from someone who can explain it better then I, but if you are going for just raw power, aspect warriors are where it is at, and you are going to need to lean the movement game.

I obviously think Wraiths are the way to go, but collective wisdom currently is they suck rules wise. But again rules are temporary, your collection is eternal, so IF you pick Eldar, pick what you think looks cool first and foremost.

>>96337595
yeah who would do that?

>>96337873
One key thing is eldar have a big range and 8 detachments currently - 6 craftworlds, 1 clowns, 1 ynnari.
So you have a lot of options, wraith heavy, bike heavy, aspect warrior heavy, seer heavy, guardian heavy etc

Are Immorties good?
They seem like the unit to get the most value out of res-protocol shenanigans

Should I paint the bases of my emperors children pink or is there enough pink already. I’m starting to feel sick looking at so much pink.

>be necromancy player
>splat in layer of leadbelcher and nuln oil

Heh nothin personal

>>96337907
HERMITO PURPULU

PURPULU, ANON-SAN, PURPULU!

>>96337892
lost against talibs
lost against russians

>>96337914
yes but people do use lasers on scoped rifles, so an artist drawing it isn't that far removed from reality

>>96337907
Bases look best contrasting the model or at tabletop distance it all blurs together

>>96337907
You don't have emperors children, nobody plays them

is it possible to make a space marines army that doesn't use guilliman and calgar right now? feels like if you don't have those two, 2 vindis, and 2 ballistus you might as well just expect to lose to everything because you lack any sort of damage

>>96337942
Ha ha

>>96337903
Good for capturing points yes.
Pair with plasmancer for crits on 5+.

How viable is running 4 mulit-melta devastators in a razorback?

when will csm get their vehicle refresh

>>96338015
When 40K gets to use Horus heresy kits in an official manner

>>96338015
11th, rhinos and all vehicles based on are being squatted

>>96338023
When is 11th? I just bought a bunch of models I hope GW doesn’t shaft me

>>96338032
Next summer

>>96337840
they can be simple to paint, but much like space marines they have almost no natural texture, its all large flat smooth surfaces, which leaves a novice painter absolutely nowhere to hide when it comes to streaky or uneven finishes, and can leave the models looking extremely flat without some level of blending and/or weathering

marines and eldar are so much harder to actually make look good than something where the model has a lot of natural texture and detail like tyranids or necrons where the model can speak for you and the lack of large flat panels means uneven finishes arent anywhere near as obvious.

>>96336628
A SCE style squatting of all primaris followed by a small release of just 4 kits with updated tacticals, devastators, assault and veterans would fix me.

>>96336647
You will not be missed.

>>96337601
Are we now pretending that nobody ever in the world bought space marines before primaris?

>>96336628
>watch the salt flow
You need to be 18+ to post here

>>96338095
Nobody can like what anon dislikes

>>96338091
Now I hope tacticals and firstborn shit gets sent to Horus heresy

>>96338102
HH will get mk7 marines

>>96338109
And I will not care.hopefully people who pretend to like it will be happy.

>>96338102
I hope they make a separate game for primaris and you all go play there amongst themselves and leave us alone at peace in 40k.

1th should bring back:
>Templates
>Old AP
>Tank facings and AVs
>Psychic disciplines
>Psychic tests and perils of the warp
>Warlord traits
>Armoury
>Point costs
>Old wound allocation
>WS chart
>Additive S/T chart instead of multiplicative
>Detachments as armylists (ie, detachments should have their own restricted/expanded list of units)
>Cover saves
>4th edition terrain rules (dangerous, difficult, impassable, area)
>No stratagems

11th should copy from 30k 3.0:
>Morale
>Flyers
>FOC
>How characters attach to units
>USRs

11th should keep from 10th:
>Mission design
>Pre-established terrain placements (though they should be more generic and varied, not just ruins)
>Detachments (with some tweaks)
>Crusade (especially at the quality of Armageddon)

reckon fagius bile has sucked a space marine cock, just to like figure out if its gonna help or not

>>96338119
>11th should keep from 10th:
>crusade
You don’t play games.

Removing the nostalgia glasses, and looking at my primaris and tacticals side by side I can say the primaris shits in the old sculpts by a mile.
I have yet seen anyone give a concrete, non meme example of why old space marine sculpts are better, without resorting to nostalgia or inane abstract shit like "SOVL".
If we show a grog (a real one, not a pretend one to be cool in an anonymous forum) a primaris mini in the 90s or early 2000s, just show him the mini, that's it, he would shit his pants at how cool it is.
Old marines are constantly squatting, their proportions are crap, they dont look strong or massive. At least primaris minis can stand straight.
Now we just need to fix the retarded tactical rock sickness...

>>96337028
>Shovel meme shitposting is annoying and gay
Same with the endless alpharius jokes about alpha legion.

got 4 boxes of dawn of war onslaught

>>96338116
that's what HH was supposed to be, a marinefag containment game with guest appearances from better imperial factions (admech and guard) where they can play their favorite babies first army recolor and bring their favorite marvelslop primarch. unfortunately, the rabid slopmaris marine consumers would rather make 40k even more primarch and marine-centric instead of fucking off and playing HH.

>>96338125
I've been into 40k since Space Crusade as a kid in the early 90s. You're half right.

Primaris minis feature a lot of good things and look a lot better at a first glance over the old ones, BUT they still have lots of shorcomings and misguided design decisions.
We can also tell GWs original attempt to totally replace the old roster of tacticals/assault/devastators/terminators didn't really work, and they had to bring back upgraded versions of old units, like Terminators instead of Gravis.

For me, unit composition and half cooked shit like Reivers or Agressors are the big issues, design-wise. Or the half assed attempt to replace Land Raiders and Rhino/predators with grav versions only to realize later that people like more the more brutal tracked units.

>>96338147
>only to realize later that people like more the more brutal tracked units
Who?

>>96338137
>delusional NPC player doesn't know his place in 40k and seethes endlessly

>>96338137
>from better imperial factions (guard)
I still don't understand if guardfags generally like the solar auxilia or if they don't, I've seen incensed opinions from either side but never really got the more general opinion

>>96338125
>sculpts
Alright we don't want to keep the old sculpts, we want new sculpts that fix the scale without changing the entire visual design and how the units work. Like they did with terminators.

>33 torsos and heads for 'Cron warrior/immortal/lych conversions for 16$
Tempted

>>96338152
Space marine players, that's who. The ones who do custom upgraded versions of classic vehicles over the lame grav versions, like pic related

>>96338154
You used the wrong image, rookie mistake, here, don't forget it next time!

>>96338157
I'm fine with femcrons, but the breasts are too big, just turns it into coomslop

>>96338157
>necrodermis tits
cryptek approved

>>96338156
>>96338147
Yeah I agree. The sculpts themselves are top tier. How they implemented it was the disaster. I think they learned of this, thats why they did the terminator upgrade.
At least I hope so.

Im looking forward to primaris vanguard veterans and primaris assault terminators

>>96338166
crypteks are more about function over form, pic related were both mentioned as female for example

necrotits would most probably be found on nobles that once valued their beauty and wanted to preserve it in undeath, or in a lord who wanted said beauty preserved in his bodyguard-harem

>>96338158
Where's this from?

>>96338174
Fuck me how are we still waiting for new Assault termies
Why was it not one box

>>96338095
That's not what I said, I said I wanted to see his cause I wanted to see if they looked cool, what are you talking about

>>96338188
This month's White Dwarf.
You know, that magazine that fake grogs say no longer features conversions or cool stuff

>>96337466
give exampes

>>96338157
>no fat asses
Worthless

>>96337566
did most of a daemon prince, got to base him still and then any details I've missed

>>96338197
I want to say something but I will be murdered in the streets if I utter it.

>>96338197
pretty nice

>>96338197
>teal background
>orange marines
IM GOING INSANEEE

>>96336989
Finished some light conversions on the new BT chaplain.
Just have him a flaming stormcast sword, some stormcast back sun thing, and gave him a smaller old marine power pack.
I like to lightly convert monopose characters, makes them less copy pasted.
A bland power sword just doesnt fit a chaplain, imo. The flames make it super righteous.

>>96338154
get d-scythed then neutron lasered, marinefag. every other faction has cooler lore and models than any flavor of marine could hope to have.

>>96338155
I think they're pretty cool in a retro-futurist kind of way. wish their weapons looked more like stereotypical ray guns instead of lasguns but that might be treading on admech territory.

>>96338155
the 10 guard fags in my community generally agree they're no different from khadron tier steampunk

>>96338197
whyd they paint them in tau colours

>>96338224
>caring about the opinions of guardfags

oof

>>96338222
>seething eldarfag larping as a necronchad to hide his true nature
You're not fooling anyone. Necron frens have no need to seethe at SM like knife ears with an insecurity complex like you

>>96338227
The T'au scheme is more yellow than orange (not that GW even uses that scheme anymore anyway)

>>96338192
To be fair the old ones weren't one box either. But yeah an entire edition without them is retarded.

>>96338168
>I think they learned of this
Looking at the new sternguard, blood angel and space wolves releases and how they treat the last few classic units that aren't tanks... I don't think so.

>>96338227
They're clementine, not ochre.

>>96338230
>marinefag pretends to be a necronfag accusing a necronfag of being an eldarfag for attacking marinefags

>inb4 I'm not pretending
and yet you have a filename of someone who grabbed the first google search result for a classic reaction image you would have already saved if you were a negronfag
>inb4 you're a schizo, eldarfag!
I'm not even the anon you're replying to

>>96338227
it's actually votann colours, the text says he ripped off the trans-hyperian scheme

>>96338249
>Only edgy hipster losers with inferiority complex seethe about marines in 40k.
>Necron players aren't seething edgy hipster losers with inferiority complex like guardfags or eldarfags
QED

>>96338157
>>96338202

>>96338230
neutron lasers are admech weapons used by the onager dunecrawler, but I wouldn't expect a marinefag false flagging as a necronfag to know what weapons cooler factions than his own use.

Are printfags "killing the hobby" or is that just GW fearmongering?

>>96338259
That should have been the Votann posterboy paint scheme plus a lot more nasa-punk dwarves intead of retarded DEI norse shit encroaching on the SW.

Also they should have been called just Votann, not muh kyn or any of that white trash mom shit

>>96338263
If anything it makes the hobby easier to get into
Of course GW wants you to believe that the hobby is dependent on their overpriced plastic crack having no competition

>>96338197
>Clementine Knights
What a fucking gay name. Maybe just removal all doubt and call them the Fruity Lads next time.

>>96338262
>AdMech uses D-scythes
less retarder false flagging anti-marine shitposter

>>96338259
trans hyperion alliance is a great scheme. to this day i will never understand how GW came up with that scheme and then decided to make greater thurian league the poster scheme

>>96338260
>calling other interiors is seething
>no necronfag would call marine inferiors
>random seething towards guardfags as well as eldarfags
You're not as subtle as you think you are
I'll give you one more chance to revel in the glory of the eternal empire instead of squabbling

>>96338274
For the same reason they added the cthonian berzerkers, I guess.

Some half-assed attempt at linking them with the Sons of Horus homeworld that was know to be full of abandoned mines, and stripped of useful minerals during the DAoT/Age of Strife.

>>96338070
this is why gw memed edge highlighting as the style everyone is supposed to copy, even though it looks bad. they can't provide a simple explanation of volumetrics (which are actually easier and look way better) and weathering paints came much later (and most people still make it look awful, like their tiny models were left outside rather than a large object picking up battle damage). just mindlessly outline every bit of definition in a brighter colour.

>>96338266
the range already features extremely minimal norse stuff and very prominent nasa'punk' stuff
and you're actually asking gw to make the orange scheme the prominent one instead of the actual nasa scheme, do you realise that?
people would have hated whatever main scheme they would have chosen regardless, the only winning move is to simply feature as many schemes as they can

>>96338119
just play an old edition if you loved eating garbage

>>96338277
chthonian is a word, not everything has to do with your homo heresy

>>96338280
>extremely minimal norse stuff
bullshit
> orange scheme the prominent one instead of the actual nasa scheme, do you realise that?
No, it's you who doesn't get what nasapunk is about if you think is about the color
>people would have hated whatever main scheme they would have chosen regardless
Wrong. That's just cope for a bad marketing decision

Do you guys use any 40K vidya music as background tunes when playing with frens?
I loop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY3d4NUeX1g from 1:19 to 2:18 as my Blood Angels theme from Battlesector.

>>96338282
>I FUCKING LOVER POWER LEVELS SAVE ME CRUDDACE

>>96338284
CTHONIC is a word. "Chthonian" is a clear reference to the Sons of Horus planet in the contex of 40k
And the posterboy Votann faction using the very same SoH green says it all.

>>96338273
>marinefag lacks reading comprehension
color me suprised. regardless, only a xenarite would try to use a d-scythe, assuming they can get it working.

>>96337566
Probably watching youtube.
Wasted my time and money going to the LGS to buy the new saturnine praetor. Only for me to get there and try the door which is locked, and then I find out it's closed on sundays by looking at their website.
No could say I am mildly peeved at the moment.

>>96338290
I fucking hate this. This fucking "its fantasy but its not" shit.

Like what the fuck. This is Warhammer 40k. Grim Dark, not fucking "What about side by side with a friend?" shit.

Take this crap to fucking Warmachine or something

>>96338290
>cherrypicks the one character that leans into that part of the theme
>ignores the moon rover and the spacesuits
No U

>>96337595
Autism.

>>96338311
>I fucking hate this. This fucking "its fantasy but its not" shit.
Mate. That's the entire premise of 40k. Why are you here?

>>96338303
I'm turning this dude into a techmarine. Love the sculpt.

>>96338314
>please don't look to all the LoV characters and basic squad leaders covered in fake norse shit or using faux norse swords

>>96338322
It was 100% designed as a techmarine before some idiot decided at GW it wasn't

>>96338303
Chthonian is also a word, retard, it's both attempts at translating greek words related to Chtonia.

>using the very same SoH green says it all.
that's like saying everything in GW's red period is canonically connected

>>96338323
>inb4 that's not nordic or not nordic enough

>>96338314
This is like saying that Ultramarines aren't roman inspired and then posting a regular intercessor and a repulsor tank. And then completely ignoring rest of their range.

>>96338323
>covered
for hq and elite stuff, that amount of decorations IS minimal
they even made it a point to tweak the runic elements so they can be more affine to circuitry, grids, warning signs and corporation symbols

>>96338325
>no segmented geometric armor
>no power axe
>no mechadendrites
>no servo arms
>no cogs or gear icons
>no cables
It's not a techmarine and never was.

>>96338326
The only retard here is you and your denial of the very obvious shit of pic related being 100% a reference to 40k's Cthonia of the SoH. Not whatever handwaving you pretend because you're too ignorant to recognize it.
Also you're a lying cunt for misspelling Chtonian as chthonian on purpose

>>96338345
This looks…like a chore.

>>96338332
space marines aren't roman inspired
ultramarines are, but where you find that inspiration expressed on ultramarines is mostly in characters or especially made bits, the rest of the troops, for the most part are simply generic sci fi supersoldiers with a few grimdark trinkets

votann do have norse inspirations, but that too is mostly on the side, more prevalent on characters and elite parts, where the majority of the range is for the most part simple generic sci fi astronauts with a few norse trinkets

>>96338303
>the very same SoH green says it all
GW use the white and teal colorscheme because GW nowadays is obsessed with turquise, white, red and black. >>96338326

>>96338317
No thats the premise of star wars you retarded cunt. That is NOT the premise of warhammer 40k.

>>96338345
>posting an unrelated 40k techmarine
>missing the point about some idiot at GW taking this techmarine beakie body and seeling it as something else without the servo arm
>missing the obvious overlapping segemented lower armour and techmarine like pauldrons
You're an idiot too

>>96338347
>misspelling
>lying
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chthonia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chthonic_deities
>In Greek mythology, deities referred to as chthonic (/ˈθɒnJk/) or chthonian (/ˈθoʊniən/)
>were gods or spirits who inhabited the underworld or existed in or under the earth. The terms "chthonic" and "chthonian" are derived from the Ancient Greek word χθών (khthṓn) meaning 'earth' or 'soil'. The Greek adjective χθόνιος (khthónios) means 'in, under, or beneath the earth', which can be differentiated from γῆ (gê), which refers to the living surface of land on the earth.
You're drawing connections where there aren't because you're ignorant to anything that isn't warhammer.

>>96338352
>space marines aren't roman inspired
I wasn't talking about space marines, only ultramarines.
Also you are still wrong about marines not being roman inspired, they originally legions broken up into 1000 man chapters and specifically have ranks like centurions.

Regardless, I am not interested in having a pointless argument with a dipshit shitposter on a sunday. Have a good day.

nerds

>>96338365
>I wasn't talking about space marines, only ultramarines.
And I replied to you in kind contextualising both, because the vast majority of an ultramarine army ends up being unconverted space marines with a specific color scheme.

Don't be dumb.

>>96338360
>>missing the obvious overlapping segemented lower armour and techmarine like pauldrons
Segmented dick plates are nothing new and not exclusive to techmarines. Even a 40k CSM and DG have some models with those.
Also the pauldron looks nothing like a techmarine pauldron, it's unironically more closer to shit like EC who have those same style ribbed parts which are embedded vox hailers.

It's not a techmarine and never was.

>>96338352
>for the most part are simply generic sci fi supersoldiers with a few grimdark trinkets
You're a retarded gen alpha kid that believes 40k was inspired by Halo or something
>votann do have norse inspirations, but that too is mostly on the side
No is not, it's front and center. But since their design is a mess of badly mixed concepts and ideas you get confused just like their retarded designers

>>96338355
We've had elves, orks and dwarves in space from the start 40k IS fantasy in space. Always has. Always will.

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96338375
>You're a retarded gen alpha kid that believes 40k was inspired by Halo or something
You're projecting, they were inspired by star wars and starship troopers and other pop sci fi shit of their time.
>it's front and center.
if it was you wouldn't need to point to characters, or elite units where the element is present on barely 5% of the surface of the model, instead of looking at the basic troops and basic vehicle which represent the core of the force.

>>96338375
tau were inspired by marathon

40k was inspired by doom 2016

>>96338364
The unit is named CHTonian not CHTHonian, you disingenous moron. And the greek references do not matter at all, except in the context of the Son of Horus, too.
There's only one CHTonia in 40k. Which also happens to have been a world mined to exahaustion in the far past, another LoV link.

Anons GW can be inspired by the same thing for mutiplie different things,
>The unit is named CHTonian not CHTHonian
NTA but thats so they can trademark the name, like Tau becoming T'au, eldar being aelderi etc

>>96338396
Unit names aren't trademarked.

>>96338374
Overlapping segmented dick plates are a techmarine thing, as are stripped pauldrons, or with interface ports.
The beakie techmarine was clearly cleaned up to make it a Siege breaker, but they still left clues. Not to mention the absense of a MkVI techmarine (because that was the model for it)

just because you're a blind retard doesn't mean everybody else is

>>96338386
Marathon, the Covenant, the Trade Federation... Tau are a mix of different things.
But well executed unlike Votann

>>96338391
>The unit is named CHTonian not CHTHonian
next you will tell me jakhals has nothing to do with jackals and aeldari has nothing to do with eldar
>And the greek references do not matter at all
It's literally a word that refers to the underground, the berserkers are a unit of MINERS, it's not hard to see why gw would use the word to refer to people going underground.

God, you're dumb.

>>96338384
>inspired by star wars and starship troopers and other pop sci fi shit of their time.
And by other stuff your ChapGPT answers do not know anything about.
Calling 40k space marines "generic" is retarded when they were among the earliest examples of the trope, and they're still very unique compared to others.

>today was the day I was supposed to make progress painting some shit
>tfw didn't do it

Im not even disappointed in myself anymore, I just expect it

Imperial agents expansion is coming
I can feel it
>Random seething about necronfags, eldarfags and marinefags
Marines are fucking cool, they just become less so by overexposure and constantly winning. It's why the Crimson Fists are the best chapter since they don't suffer from either of these.
Marines don't really leave a lot of creative space for /yourdudes/ as marinefags would like to tell you because ultimately they are still following the codex astartes and are highly brainwashed mega soldiers. There are only so many variations of "and they come from X and specialize in Y and dress in Z" one can come up with. In general you can be way more creative with guard regiments, necron dynasties, ork clans and so on without moving into being overwritten mary sue cringe.
It's just that marines are just bloody everywhere 40k has so much more to offer that they become stale to anyone but the most mindless of marine sloppa consoomers. No one hates the facts marines exist they just hate how much of the spotlight they take and if you're just ok with that there's a very high chance you're actually straight the fuck up retarded
>>96338377
Yeah but that doesn't make it not sci fi. It has spaceships planets aliens robots advanced tech and so on and so forth. In general 40k's characteristics are way more aligned with science fiction than fantasy
Sci fi exists on a spectrum of a lil pseudointellectual star trek shit where the characters sit in a spaceship and argue with each other over space morality for hours and fuck all "hell yeah this looks cool as fuck" 40k space wars with guys clad in leather with chainswords. Neither are mutually exclusive warhammer can have some actual nuance to itself and while ive never seen star trek ive heard it gets pretty fucking stupid that's the general idea of things. Star Wars is in the middle leaning more into 40k and so is Dune

>>96338418
Kroot have Gungan influence too

>>96338432
>m.jpg
git gud scrub

>>96338436
Assault terminators are just a really retarded concept

>>96338436
it's not contrarians, those are discord raiders with the same arguments and bait

>>96338436
yes and the jannies will ban you if you argue too much for the left, just came back from a vacation for saying the old raptors don't look better than the new ones

>>96338440
>Termies need to kill more things than they have ammo for and area is too risky for chapter serfs to carry their reloads
Melee makes sense in 40k more than other settings because soldiers are expected to kill more enemies than they could possibly have ammo for or die trying

>>96338426
>your ChapGPT answers
you keep projecting
>among the earliest examples of the trope
and specifically made to evoke the stuff they were referencing, so generic by design
warhammer's aim wasn't to be original or even subtle in what it drew inspiration from, it was meant to give people what they wanted from other stuff they knew, on top of giving newcomers something they would find cool even without prior knowledge of said references, and a way for gw to make people buy their other stuff they produced, or other stuff hobbysts at the time might have had minis for, which is why the guard had anachronistic elements, why you could fight on conveniently feudal worlds, and why the bestiary was full of d&d monsters with a different name
it was a kitchen sink of recognisable elements with a few twists here and there
it's not deep

>>96338449
you just got mass reported
it's part of the tactic

>>96338420
>it's jUst A wOrd
>doubling down in denial when it's the fucking homeworld of the main adversary in the HH and even had a recent campaign book about it
retard
>unit of MINERS, it's not hard to see why gw would use the word to refer to people going underground
Which is what the planet Cthonia was about, double retard

>>96338436
This is the worst fucking take on lightning claws there has ever been.

>>96338456
Anon you fucking retard, im NTA but do you really think ALL Leagues of Votann ALL recruit miners from Horus old home world that get destroyed during the scouring/HH. Or is it more likely that GW who reuses names all the time reused a name yet again?

>>96338453
>specifically made to evoke the stuff they were referencing, so generic by design
Wrong, it was part of very late 70s-80s trend that you miss, or you won't be calling it generic.
You call it generic because videogames have desentitized you to how unique they were and are.
>it's not deep
it is for you.
You've not even mentioned one of the fantasy-related influences on them, pleb

>>96338454
its not the first time, the reason was "going against board culture" theres a reason /grog/ is allowed to exist despite the OPs admitting numerous times the thread is just to splinter the community. 4chan is contrarianism

>>96338460
No, I say that GW designers TRIED to link the LoV to the planet Cthonia, but like the rest of their range it's a half assed mess.

>>96338456
Look, I'll try to be as simple as possible for someone as simple as you:
What proofs do you have that gw didn't use the same word related to the underground as name for two unrelated things related to the underground?
Do you think the world pech was named by kroots after the human word for pecking, or after the first captain of the alpha legion?
Are you aware that some unrelated things can be called with the same word?

>>96338481
No they didn't? The official response was "names get reused all the time"

>>96338468
>You call it generic because videogames have desentitized you to how unique they were and are.
you keep projecting
>it was part of very late 70s-80s trend
So you agree
Because what I'm telling you is that the desire to make them fit a trend makes them generic.
Of course that means relatively to that trend, what do you think I was saying? that they were generic relatively to the romance or detective stories?

>>96338486
You are the one that has to prove that two similarly named GW products with similar themes and similar paint scheme are a coincidence.

Stop defending the big corporation fuck ups, idiot

>>96338481
>I say that GW designers TRIED to link the LoV to the planet Cthonia
No, they didn't, you're seeing an attempt that was never there.

Oh nononono

>>96338510
its referencing the space marine 2 class, nice bait post the scanlation of the issue

>>96338508
I already showed you that the colour is hugely prevalent in modern gw schemes >>96338326 and that the word isn't special and has a specific meaning that makes it natural to be used to refer to mining >>96338364

If you want to pretend there's an intention here, you have to prove it, you can't expect people to prove the negatives you base your schizophrenic assumptions around.

>>96338440
Thunder Hammer/Stormshield Terminators were originally created to destroy Titans from the inside, so having weapons for destroying both infantry and machinery while maxing out defensively made sense
Lightning claws not so much

>>96338520
Cyclone missle launchers were designed for navak combat, the terminator development program sounds like a mess

>>96338472
I posted pic related in appreciation in the 4th ed bible project thread that overlaps a lot with /grog, only to get a warning for offtopic (!!!)
You can bet the jannies are part of it

To the anon who suggested SkaredCast for Dark Eldar videos, thank you. They seem super fun to play and even though I don't play the faction him, breaking down the games and stuff still teaches a lot of stuff as to how to play the game regardless.

>>96338527
I'd have to dig through the hard drive but I used to have screenshots of the raiding discord explaining the 4e movement was intentionally done as a meme

>>96338495
>The official response
lmao, since when GW admits fuck ups or bad lore? How new are you?
>>96338509
You don't want to see it, but the link is clearly there, even if badly done.
>>96338517
That's the Sons of Horus paint scheme since 15 years ago.
>the word isn't special and has a specific meaning that makes it natural to be used to refer to mining
The word IS special in 40k, and Cthonia was a mining planet

I keep convincing myself that painting more white in my schemes is a good idea. Sisters of the sacred rose? Cool yeah that'll be fine, definitely not going to fuck up half the thighs.

Need to buy some more paint stripper. And a darker black because my old scale 75 one is really brown/grey.

>>96338508
Do you think gw made prosecutors in reference to prosecutors, or made two unrelated things coincidentally with a similar scheme and with a similar name because the word fit both?

>>96338517
>you have to prove it
I already did, you're the idiot trying to prove a negative.

>>96338538
>lmao, since when GW admits fuck ups or bad lore? How new are you?

You mean like in 5th where they talked about rolling back the time of ending, or in 9th when they rolled back the indomitus crusade

>>96338538
>You don't want to see it, but the link is clearly there
If the only way to see it is based on your desire to see it then you're a schizoid freak.

>>96338542
Wrong example. Stormcasts are 100% a badly made fantasy version of the Talons of the Emperor

GW reusing generic names is not the same a reusing the name of a planet know for his mines and painting LoV units in the same scheme as the legion from that planet

>>96338546
You didn't prove shit, you're pointing to a coincidence and pretending there was an intention.
I'm not asking you to prove the existence of the coincidence, I'm asking you to prove the existence of an intention.

>>96338548
At no point they admitted fucking up
>>96338549
>please don't notice this obvious thing because it hurts my feelings about the faction
get fucked

>>96338563
>GW fucked up
>no it was intentional
>no it has to be a fuck up because GW would never admit it

Vraks was a mistake and GW is refusing to admit it

>>96338558
>Stormcasts are 100% a badly made fantasy version of the Talons of the Emperor
No, they aren't, the only thing in common with the talons is the color gold.

>GW reusing generic names
chthonian IS a generic name
or you would have to argue that the tyrant siege terminators were named as such in honor of the world tyran

>>96338391
One of the most secretly kept secrets of the Imperium is that Horus actually was a Dwarf.

>>96338510
they should bring back this naming. intercessorians is so fucking stupid. Primaris pigs don't @ me you don't have to defend every single thing about primaris they can have bad parts too the world will not stop spinning if they do.

>>96338563
>>please don't notice this obvious thing
The only obvious thing is that they used the same common word twice
You're the one projecting hurt feelings over this

>>96338561
I'm pointing to several "coincidences" and all related, not just one, disingenous shitposter

Saying "no" and stomping your feet doesn't make it go away

>>96338570
It is a generic term, other games use it too.
https://grimdawn.fandom.com/wiki/Chthonians

There are like 6 chapters that all have the same name
There is some random fucking term (talon something) that describes a chaos marine unit, a loyalist chapter, a chaos warband, and some other shit.

>>96338577
>>96338561
>you're pointing to a coincidence and pretending there was an intention.
>I'm not asking you to prove the existence of the coincidence, I'm asking you to prove the existence of an intention.
please, for the love of god, take meds

>>96338577
>mk3
Yuk

>>96338582
the verse would feel so small if factions got to just own certain things, like nephilim is used by dark angels when it realistically could've been a hivefleet name

>>96338418
Phantom Menace was mid-1999, Tau was late-2001.
The time frame is awfully close, all things considered. GW takes three years to go from concept to final plastic kit, and that's with modern CAD sculpting. Tau were done with 3-up masters, which would normally would have taken longer.
Personally I'm just talking this as a coincidence.

>>96338570
>chthonian IS a generic name
There's no "chthonian" in 40k. Dipshit dyslexic.
But CTHonian is a reference to the planet Cthonia of the Sons of Horus, period.

There's also the unrelated generic "cthonic" adjective, but you clearly have no idea of that.

>>96338563
Badab war was a fuck up on GW's part, they just don't want to admit it.

>>96338587
off topic but could you explain why they do a 3:1 master, I remember reading white dwarf when they showed off the 3:1 giant model for fantasy

>>96338589
>cthonia is unrelated to cthonic or chthonian
>eldar is unrelated to aeldari
>jakhal is unrelated to jackal
>fenris is unrelated to fenrir

>but all things turquoise are related

at this point you must be acting intentionally braindead, I refuse to believe you're aware enough to operate a computer on your own

flawless blades kind of suck
review over thanks for reading

>>96338580
Wrong, "cthonic" is the generic term in english. "Chthonian" comes from HPL and the Cthulu TTRPG
>>96338583
the original intention is self evident by the very existence of so many coincidences.
Just like Yvraine was based on Lady Malys. Or the phobos captain in Telion.

You being a blind retard does't change the clues being there for those that can see it. No need to be a schizo in denial over miniature design, ffs

>>96338271
even the chapter symbol... It should say army by the Faggot George! lmao

>>96338612
>the original intention is self evident by the very existence of so many coincidences.
no, it's not, that's not how proving something works, to prove it you must disprove the possibility of these things being a coincidence
but the color is common and the word is common

>>96338598
I don't know the ins and outs of it, but from what I understand it was needed for the machine that would make the metal casting die. Probably couldn't read details that were too small.

>>96338611
How cheap would the need to be to not suck?

>>96338601
>if I intentionally confuse the issue and also say that anon said something he didn't, I win
Is this your first rodeo or just retarded? your baby troll shit is not going to work

>>96338620
I don't need to prove a negative
>but the color is common and the word is common
Wrong. Neither were until the Sons of Horus. And not together either

>>96338624
>>if I intentionally confuse the issue
You're the one trying to claim that GW couldn't have possibly reused chthonian for a name by pretending that them misspelling things proves the term is unrelated.

Doesn't Cthonic just mean underworld? Both a mythological location as well as a literal underground location.
Horus was from a mining planet, and a Satan figure. Whereas Votaann are miners.
GW is just reusing words.

>>96338630
>chthonian
there's no such word used in relation to the LoV, lying dipshit
But there's an unit painted and named after the Son of Horus homeworld

>>96338634
esl posters think every new word they come across is a copyrighted gw term for a specific thing

>>96338634
Cthonic, chthonian, and Cthonia(n) are related but used in different context in 40k. But need a bit of literacy to get that.

>>96338628
>I don't need to prove a negative
This is not proving a negative, retard, if you want to prove one out of two possibilities, you have to find a way to exclude the other possibility.
>Wrong.
Now you're just in plain denial.
the sons of horus didn't invent the color turquoise, nor the word chthonian.

>>96338634
what would even be the point in linking Votann and the Sons of Horus? Their original fleets were all launched from Terra if I'm not mistaken. They haven't met Abaddon or the Black Legion. I don't remember them being present during the HH nor Horus' forces having fought alongside Squats. Like where does this go?

>>96338635
>there's no such word used in relation to the LoV
Now you're arguing that eldar are unrelated to aeldari, jakhals are unrelated to jackals, and fenris is unrelated to fenrir.
This is how dumb you are.

By the way, the color scheme is unrelated to them being chtonian berserkers, they're still chthonian berserkers even when they come from leagues with different color schemes, they have no specific connection to the color.

>>96338586
>nephilim is used by dark angels when it realistically could've been a hivefleet name
As it happens both the Dark Angels' Nephilim aircraft and the Tyranids' Court of the Nephilim King attribute their name to the same thing, namely the Nephilim sector.

>>96338601
The cthonian berserks are unrelated to cthonia in the same way howling banshees are unrelated to the howling griffons or cacedominus's death scream "the howling"

>>96338650
Maybe if you want to tie them into the creation of the talon of horus, since horus found it. But they already tied them into ion tech and terminator devolopment so

>>96338634
Apparently that's too hard for anon to grasp because he thinks 40k invented the name ctonia.
I bet he thinks gw invented murder too, or that nobody called earth terra before warhammer.

>>96337466
Having that issue now with Eldar. I really don't want to paint one of the existing Craftworlds but I just can't come up with a good paint scheme or background for them. I had no issues with my IG force but I'm drawing a blank here.

>>96338662
Anon he does this literally EVERY thread. Picks some random hill to die on. Its one guy who thinks pretending to be retarded boosts engagement or whatever.

>>96338674
Shut up, man. We don't need you schizomaxxing that every retard that walks into this thread is one person.

>>96338674
Do you think it's the same anon with a deranged fixation on what a "real" dragon is?

>>96338663
When struggling against indecision, default to black.
>But what about aspect warriors?
Black armor but traditional colors for the undersuit.

Cthonian just means "from or related to the underground". They are underground miners. They are "of the underground beserks". They would be Cthonian no matter where they come from.

Its like if there was a planet named Angeria and you made a unit called Angry Marines and tried to be like tHeY cAmE fRoM aNgErIa

Is it conceivable that whoever named the beserks just wasn't well versed enough to know that Cthonia was already used elsewhere in the setting and no one else checked it before it was too late

I know there's multiple planet Typhons for instance

>>96338648
>find a way to exclude the other possibility.
No, you are the one that need to do that and prove a coincidence.
>the sons of horus didn't invent the color turquoise, nor the word chthonian.
It's not "turquoise" and they're not "chthonian", are you color blind on top of dyslexic?
But dark sea green and cthonian ARE a SoH thing in 40k for years before the LoV existed

>>96338650
>what would even be the point in linking Votann and the Sons of Horus
It's not so much the SoH, but the planet. Which is said to have been stripped of minerals during the DAoT and is full of abandoned mines
>Like where does this go?
Dunno. Maybe it's just an audience wink, maybe an abandoned more involved relationship and plotline. They clearly didn't think so much in advance or commited to it. I'm not saying it was a good idea either

>>96338651
No I'm arguing that you're a retarded smartass that doesn''t know know shit about 40k or words
>the color scheme is unrelated to them being chtonian berserkers
of all the stuff in 40k and 30k they chose those 2 linked things by pure coincidence? Retard

"Whats a cool word I can use for this Votann fluff"
"How about cthonia"
"nice"
later, /40kg/ implodes

>>96338634
Also "underworld" is a pretty common metaphor for the criminal side of society, and Horus specifically grew up on a planet controlled by the mafia.
Votann spergs will never recover from this.

>>96338699
hiliarious to go back in the thread and see all this fighting orginated from one person talking about a LoV colour scheme.

>>96338696
>I know there's multiple planet Typhons for instance
WRONG. They're all the same planet travelling through space and time through warp magic

>>96338662
>40k invented the name ctHonia.
FTFY, and yes. Feel free to prove the contrary, and not using "cthonic" or other spelling from th HPL mythos
>>96338674
Yes, in every thread there's always a contrarian shill trying to drive up engagement against the most obvious things and I fall everytime for it, yes

>>96338697
>No, you are the one that need to do that and prove a coincidence.
Nope, burden of proof was on you, you first made the claim they're absolutely 100% a reference.

Two weeks left until the collage deadline. How are your characters coming along? Also terrain chads rise up, september is our month i can feel it.

>>96338684
"Cthonian" is a specific GW spelling related to the Sons of Horus homeworld.

I guess you'd call Tolkien elves "aeldari", because you're an illiterate retard

>>96338717
just about finished my daemon prince
I will decide whether to submit him or a warpsmith closer to the end though

>>96338689
>all lies in both columns
least retarded midhammer faggot

>>96338697
>by pure coincidence
you say that as if it was hard for existing words and existing colours to be combined multiple times.

>>96338718
Anon 'Cthonian' is the correct spelling

>>96338706
the cthonian thing isnt even tied to the color scheme though, every league has its own cthonian berserks (actually i think they have contracts with them and that the cthonian mining guild is a sort of apolitical industrial organization that deals with all of them)

the leagues and their guilds are also fucking huge, each one is a galactic empire spanning thousands of systems, to think that a guild which can be found in all of them would shoehorn themselves to a single imperial planet is very silly.

>>96338689
how is 5 and 6 compatible? If nuhammer is woke why are all the heroes genocidal racist white guys

>>96338717
what is this all about? some kind of painting challenge? im new, havent been following it

>>96338731
RT and 2e are protohammer
3 4 and most of 5 was old hammer
the rest of 5 6 and 7 are mid hammer
8,9 10 are nuhammer

>>96338711
asking for "evidence" already provided at the start doesn't make you smart, just a dense idiot.
Feel free to get a legally binding statement from the LoV designers saying that they didn't thinl of the SoH homeworld and i'd wipe my ass with their lies

I'm getting to the point where I have a big enough collection that storage and transport are a concern. What do you guys use for that? Any recommendations?

>>96338710
>FTFY, and yes. Feel free to prove the contrary, and not using "cthonic" or other spelling from th HPL mythos
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chthonia
the placement of the h is pointless because the original name is Χθονία
the presence or absence of H are all english 'mispellings'

>>96338726
For the planet in 40k. Not in common english

>>96338734
Alright so every month we vote on a theme and we paint up something and submit it to collage anons anchor posts the last week of the month and he makes a collage of it. This month is characters. Feel free to join in newfren.

>>96338738
again, a coincidence is not an evidence of an intent, coincidences happen
if you want to claim there's an intent, you must prove the intent, not the coincidence

>and i'd wipe my ass with their lies
You're coincidentally showing more and more signs of schizophrenia, have you tried getting those tested by a professional?

>>96338731
Uh, overweight white guy, sit down and listen. The black womyn is about to committ a heckin' genocide.

>>96338737
/grog/ would very much disagree with you on that

>>96338751
bazed

>>96338745
Anon there's no difference. SoH homeworld and the Kyn bersekers are just referencing the same greek underworld but are unconnected to each other. Its not hard to grasp. The colour is just a concidence as well

>>96338742
>pointless
Wrong. The exact way to write it matters. Specially for GW and their neurotic copyright issues.
That's why you keep using the wrong spelling of "Chthonia" instead of the version used by the LoV units and the SoH homeworld.

Because you're a disingenous dipshit arguing in bad faith

>>96338753
/grog/ is ran by discord raiders

>>96338745
Anon, if you can understand how GW might mispell the word to make a 40k name to do with mining once, you can understand how GW might mispell the word for another 40k name to do with mining a second time.

>>96338749
>a coincidence
There's more than one, and all thematically linked.
>muh meds
It's disgust at the existence of sociopathic lying assholes on purpose for no reason except to reap (you)s. Pathetic vermin

>>96338762
Sure buddy whatever you say

>>96338737
Wrong.
>RT
oldhammer
>2e
just 2e, AKA the red period
>3-7th
midhammer
>8e+
nuhammer

The difference in 5e only exist in the mind of seething midhammer fags from the early 2000s

>>96338773
>>96338776
They exist and they are cunts.

>>96338766
Whats the thematic link? they have the same colour on the box as SoH? woah so deep

>>96338776
>>96338779
The grog general are not discord raiders what are you smoking. I doubt those whitered old skeletons even know what discord is.

>>96338779
>>96338776
why are they like this and what is their end game?

>>96338779
I've never gotten the whole
>explain how bad warhammers lore has gotten

like even if we for a moment presuppose its correct and warhammer lore has tanked as low as possible, how you explain that to a new comer is a hard ask.

>ok so they brought back guilliman who despite healing since second edition should never comeback because reasons
>they then had this guy cawl improve marines which should be impossible besides when corax and bile have done it
>They showcased a black ultramarine, which while it could possibly be canon compliant should never be in the spotlight as it is a DEI dogwistle
>They made female custodes, ADB's comment is obviously in jest as GW knows women don't belong in 40k besides sisters'

There's so much Meta-Lore you have to explain to independently justify any new lore as terrible, although I think that's the point and the campaign is targeted at the relative new comer who is still using the wikis written durring 5th-7th and didn't know the lore was changing then too

>>96338781
Why do you intrude in a discussion without the first idea about the subject matter?
fuck off

>>96338791
>The grog general are not discord raiders what are you smoking. I doubt those whitered old skeletons even know what discord is.

The original OP was, you faggots are so easy to influence that it only takes a couple of people before a movement is started

>>96338759
No, I also use the normal spelling for berserkers instead of whatever retardation gw put in its stead.
And the copyright neurosis is even more schizophrenic than you are, it's all over the place and noone wants or needs to use the specific spelling or cthonia or cthonian.

When GW uses weird spellings, sometimes it just for a better presence in google searchs or easier product management in their databases, not for copyright.

>>96338766
>sociopathic lying assholes on purpose for no reason except to reap (you)s
You keep projecting, mate.

>>96338803
I'll take you word for it

>>96338801
>intrude in a discussion
Calling 20+ posts arguing a discussion is laughable, and again thats not a thematic link. >A world is a heavily mined corpse planet name Cthonia
>LoV has miners that maybe mined there!!1!! (they didn't)
okay so?

>>96338717
Undercoated.
Probably going to stay painting tomorrow, but we'll see.

>>96338811
Think about it rationally for a moment, why do fake grogs exist? because the Grogs are usually the established fans and people want to fit in.

So why would you make a whole new group to try to earn a spot in, its antithetical. In /40kg/ I can make a post jerking off how good 5th was and loads of folks will agree under threat of ban or just for the love of the game (being fake grogs). If I go out and make a 5e thread, most of the comments will be about how 4e with 3e codexes was better, and then eventually "40k was never good". So the fact that /grog/ usually doesnt devolve into that is proof its a concerted effort

>>96338805
>did you mean chthonian
you don't even know how Google works and how shit its LLM is at guesswork about specific stuff like this without context it doesn't have.

The fact that chthonian/chthonia doesn't show 40k stuff, but cthonia/n shows both LoV and SoH is the icing on the cake, lol. You're a smartass with no self awareness

>>96338837
NTA
You're actually braindead

>>96338829
>In /40kg/ I can make a post jerking off how good 5th was and loads of folks will agree under threat of ban or just for the love of the game
Are you kidding? For a time you couldn't post a model that wasn't made before 8th edition without being dogpiled by a dozen marks demanding you post your oldhammer collection or calling you out as a fake grog

>>96338843
autism is a hell of a drug. People who can't admit they're wrong or understand a different perspective

jeez this is a painful thread to read through

>>96338848
that was a direct response to the problems with model posting, posting a model only proves you're willing to waste money. Anyone even a timmy could buy a tactical squad, but to waste hudreds of dollars to build an all first born army isn't something most will do

>>96338854
What armies would Yugi, Kaiba and Joey play

>>96338837
I don't think you're understanding what I wanted to show you with my post.

I would say that you are the smartass with no self awareness, but I don't think you're smart.

>>96338856
Lets discuss something fun.
Anon if (you) could add one thing from another IP or setting to 40k what would it be?

>>96336776
Orks are "balanced" around the fact that they charge a lot, granting them the FF charge bonus

Im jewish and incrediply despotic. Which army should I start with?

>>96338859
>but to waste hudreds of dollars to build an all first born army isn't something most will do
thats all people did for 30 years you fucking idiot. christ you're one of those primaris retards arent you

>>96338863
You added another irrevant tangent to deviate from the core subject matter, while still misspelling the name used by LoV on purpose for the same reason.

Those games do not work with me, dipshit.

>>96338862
Yugi would play a very intricate guard list that abuses orders to do wild combos

Joey would be a super swingy Tsons list

Kaiba would've been an 8th player who ran a command battery with a castellan knight and shield captians on jetbikes that then tranisitioned into a custodes player

>>96338854
This is also typical of the discordfags, ie. if you ever point out what is happening then they try to deflect by calling you a schizo.

>>96338868
I think trench crusade would be a better fit for you.

>>96338869
>thats all people did for 30 years you fucking idiot. christ you're one of those primaris retards arent you
there are maybe five people who post here who genuinely have old warhammer models, everyone else statistically started after 6th

>>96338868
Guard and paint them as US marines.

>>96338880
you don't pull numbers out of your ass and talk about "statistics"

>>96338874
>joey
>the guy who starts out without any spell or trap cards
>tsons

>>96338876
muh schizo is a common tactic among shills and shitposters when called out, is not exclusive to discord raiders.

Althought I'm pretty sure it's sometimes done to drive up engagement of certain boards/generals. Dunno if for autism, fanboyism, or just being paid to do it.

>>96338883
He's not wrong

>>96338866
>3 inquisitors mentored by Fyodor Karamazov through grueling and horrible years as his students
>One is super puritan and believes in the light of the emperor as embracing all of humanity, hates big imperial aristocracy and works for the ordo hereticus
>The other one is an edgelord who never lost an argument and believes the imperial cult might work better with a more humanist approach and has talked directly with warp deities before, ordo xenos
>The last one just follows around a rogue trader and acts all fancy while being nothing more than an aristocratic puppet
>Big court case book between the 3 of them that last 200 years of them just arguing over who gets Fyodor's super badass murder throne
Kino...

>>96338883
8th,9th and 10th were the best selling releases of their times, the average age of the posters here is maybe mid 20's to maybe early 30's which is the exact demographic 8th exploited.

>>96338887
Joey does develop as a duelist throughout the series, I dont think spells and traps should litterally be the same as psychic in 40k.

>>96338880
I have a bunch of old stuff from RT. But I've been called a fake grog and that I got them from ebay when I posted it.
Which is only partially true. Part is genuinelly from when I was young, and other stuff I got second hand around the mid 2010s when i got interested again in the setting, but before the big scalper boom that made prices absurd

>>96338896
Yeah he does develop as a duelist. The tsons get worse after the rubric, not a good fit. Joey would play tau because of their potential or orks because of their random bullshit go vibe

>>96338903
Joey uses a lot of combos that don't really work together as a deck, I guess you could say that he would've been an open play player in 8th who used a bunch of unaligned armies.

Its really hard to translate Yugiohs archetype system into 40k since they're the exact opposite of eachother. 40k rules are mainly in the army while archetypes in Yugioh are card interactions.

There is the sort of duelists types they mention in the anime like "power duelsits" but thats never really expanded apon

t. someone who plays YGO

>>96338890
He is. It doesn't occur to idiots like you two that not everyone coming here is even posting photos of *any* models at all. If we have 100 people here and only 1 posts his white and purple firstborn, that doesn't mean only 1 person owns oldhammer models, it just means only 1 person is posting photos of them.
>>96338892
>"maybe"
again, pulling numbers out of your ass, not even knowing about the data you're posting about (average age of posters on tg), ignoring old hats that came back, etc.

can we talk about tactics in the game for a second? im still newish to playing games after a massive break, and im having a hard time with ideas like trading units and such, for example

say im an ork player, and im playing against marines. its my go turn (waagh), and ive identified my targets (gladiator lancer and a repex). now im expecting something to overwatch me, do i just pray that the marine player doesnt know what tankbustas and breakas are capable of and he decides to overwatch a boyz or snaggas unit instead? although the repex would only be hitting on 6s, its still enough of a threat to ruin an elite unit. do you games bros (particularly ones that play melee) attempt to b8 an overwatch before moving your heavy hitters in? i know that units cant be overwatched if they charge from inside ruins but thats not always an option

>>96338872
>You added another irrevant tangent
No, I didn't
>while still misspelling the name
No, I didn't

If you think people talking with you plainly and sincerely are playing or lying, then sorry but you're beyond normal social interactions.

If someone replies to you after this post, it's someone else.

soulless

>>96338926
>those low stools to sit on and destroy your back and knees
T-Thanks James Workshop

>>96338862
>>96338903
joey would definitely be an earlier edition ork player with lots of stuff like bubblechukkas and shokk attack guns

>>96338919
naturally if you can bait the overwatch its ideal. but whether it'll work just depends on how well the other player knows your list, only so much you can do sometimes

>>96338923
You instisted in repeating the incorrect spelling of the name since the start, even when called out about it. That's not a sincere mistake. Neither is your "u mad" patronizing attitude.

Your smell of insincerity is nauseating.

>>96338926
THE TABLES ARE ON CASTERS. HOLY FUCK IMAGINE THEM SLIPPING AND SLIDING AROUND AND YOUR MODELS TIPPING AND GETTING CRUSHED AAAAAAA

>>96338945
if can't handle fighting on a tectonically unstable planet they had it coming

>>96338926
That's warhammer world, right? A little sad that they can't have beautiful custom display type tables even there. Maybe doesn't make sense to have stuff like that when a random band of youths could roll in and trash the place at any time. Part and parcel of living in england I suppose.

>>96338919
Yes, if you can't charge from behind a wall or have some defensive stratagem or enhancement that turns off overwatch, you have to try baiting overwatch. Don't ever assume your opponent doesn't know something about your army.
I think since you are new you should also not overestimate overwatch. I can't tell you how many times an opponent panic overwatched even with a dozen shots and maybe got 1 hit. Sometimes you just have to eat an overwatch.

>>96338926
>>96338930
>>96338945
Big yikes my dudes

>>96338949
>Maybe doesn't make sense to have stuff like that when a random band of youths could roll in and trash the place at any time.

Maybe you should try visiting England instead of getting all your info about it from twitter accounts that have greek statues in their profile photos.

>>96338968
I've been, Nottingham is a shithole on par with Baltimore or detroit

>>96338949
the only time I've had people invade and damage stuff in an LGS was a bunch of white kids coming in and stealing some yugioh cards off the desk mid-game
t. londoner

>>96338936
ive managed to do it once before, which stopped a marine player overwatching with a full squad of infernus, as a horde army that wouldve proper fucked me, but i dont expect for that to happen again, it was a genuine mistake on my opponents behalf

>>96338957
it seems to be tricky in some cases, particularly if i fail a charge and now that unit just suffered some huge losses from overwatch + is now in the open for them to destroy it next turn

>Don't ever assume your opponent doesn't know something about your army

thats true, i always tell my opponents what everything can do and what it is capable of. i dont have many tricks (like eldar / deldar turning off overwatch) so its all fairly straightforward. and yeah ive been one of those people who have used overwatch and done zero damage, its fucking awful when it happens but like you said its a panic situation / desperation and rarely ever results in anything

>>96338971
nothing there but knives, drugs and games workshop hq

>>96338968
I've been to england a few times. Felt less safe every time. Been a few years now though.

>>96338995
I felt like if I were to get mugged, I'd end up being the one arrested

>>96338974
those weren't white kids they were polacks

>>96338926
nothing more soul than playing toy soldiers in a dark basement

>>96338974
>white kids playing yugioh
Damn thats unreal. Its mostly blacks and asians playing here. The game has kinda lost a lot of popularity over the years.

i've been getting more into kitbashing and there really is such a fucking world of difference between old kits and new ones. i'm assembling some DG kits and i'm actually fucking blown away at what this fucking slicing is, you have pieces that are like yeah this is the coattails, half of the head, a part of a shoulderpad and a gun that's holding by a thread, now go assemble with this half a leg + a third of the chest armor. so fucking kitbash unfriendly

>>96338971
There are miniature wargaming companies in Baltimore or detroit?

>>96339014
genuine skill issue

>>96338994
>nothing there but knives, drugs and games workshop hq
Which of the three is the most expensive?

>>96339014
Are the old kits better or worse than the new ones?

>>96338945
You can literally see wheel-lock in the photo.

>>96339011
Yeah the game is on life support thanks to mismanagement. It's uncanny because WOTC is following the steps that killed Yugioh identically

>>96339030
depends on what metric, for kitbashing yeah, old kits are sorted in a very logical way, you get the legs, the torso, the arms and the accessories, all neatly ordered. new kits are sliced for optimizing space i assume which results in some extremely weird pieces and makes kitbashing much harder since you have to assemble shit first and then basically cut it wholesale after assembly

>>96339011
modern yugioh is terrible
I still replay the old tag force and nintendo 3ds games sometimes though

The monthly White Dwarf scans are late and it's seriously causing me mental distress.

>>96339049
Modern Yugioh ought to be a case study

>>96339053
ah poor baby, be strong!

>>96339030
Depends on the faction, but rule of thumb is that old kits are better for kitbashing, they're made with kitbashing in mind. It's night and day.

Simply put: an older kit you could easily mix and assemble things. Want to try a kitbash before gluing? Dry fit or putty, you're all good.
Newer kit? You sometimes have to ASSEMBLE AND GLUE some parts BEFORE CUTTING, and that's after a lot of measuring and guesswork.

But the real kicker is: "kitbash with what?" Most kitbashes you see nowadays make use of old kits which are either OOP or will be soon enough.

TL;DR: kitbashing is braindead on life support, converting is all you have and you have to do more of it.

>>96339078
spoken like somebody who's never kitbashed in xir life

>>96339011
same, im in a big east coast city and all the black kids play yugioh and the white kids play magic. its literally like a racial divide.

>>96339087
You can't spit facts and not have baiting faggots latch onto your post

>>96339099
You spat nothing but untruths shat from the mouth of subhuman /v/ermin

>>96339078
>you have to glue and make cuts with a knife to kitbash
>how unthinkable
Skill issue, genuinely go build some models so you can train your skills.

>>96339111
Reading isn't interpreting.
Think before posting.

>>96339111
he's not saying it's unthinkable

>>96339120
seething
>>96339121
yeah he's just bitching and moaning about one half of an extra step as if it's something to summit

>>96339128
>interprets wrong
>complains
Man shaped child.

Ha!

>>96339134
>I'm not a retard you're just wrong!!!
yawn
go buy some models and actually try kitbashing instead of whining about a hobby you've never touched in your life

>model looks fine in person
>take a photo and all the mistakes come into stark relief

>>96339087
>>96339111
why is this thread just ragebaiting these days

>>96339078
>But the real kicker is: "kitbash with what?" Most kitbashes you see nowadays make use of old kits which are either OOP or will be soon enough.

Nothing is OOP as long as a single chinese is selling recasts of exact those kits. Also, with 3d printers, you can print bits and pieces yourself too. Either scanned old kits, or simply new stuff, created by who knows who. There are more options for kitbashing than ever.

>>96339140
I said something that made you upset. I get that.
You project that anger onto me. I get that.

The sad part is you asking to be taken seriously.

>>96339078
>But the real kicker is: "kitbash with what?" Most kitbashes you see nowadays make use of old kits which are either OOP or will be soon enough.
This is the only valid part of your post, and I agree. The BA got specially fucked over by this.

>>96339155
>n-no u
embarrassing
come back when you're not typing through tears

>>96339145
its brutal isnt it anon, i like the setup i have for taking photos but fucking hell it reveals all of the shit that looks bad

>>96339138
what would be the more union faction, iron warriors or gsc?

>>96339161
The rest is valid too, you do you.

>>96339165
>Still going

>>96339178
Yes you're still going on with this larp little /v/ermin
Quite sad innit

>>96339138
>doesn't know about the Iron Warriors and their daemonculaba
ngmi

>>96339178
post a single kitbash you've ever made

>>96339181
>>96339183
That's a lot of barking

>>96339193
>admitting he's done no kitbashing
every single time with you subhuman freaks whining about the current state of things

>>96339182
When people bring this up my default assumption is that they primarily learn of 40k fluff through youtube shorts.

>>96339198
Bark bark bark

>>96339211
Oh you're SEETHING seething

>>96339211
Glad you're admitting to being nothing but a shitstirrer

>>96339215
>>96339218
>Who let the dogs out?
>Who, who, who, who, who?

>>96339199
I didn't, but also didn't mind it while reading the Ventris series. It was just a bit of body horror to remind the reader that the IW are actually fucked up, not just cartoon villains.

I think it became so infamous because of the 2010s culture wars stuff

>>96339182
daemonculaba isn't even that bad considering. The smart CSM warbands or the big united traitor legions like WB and BL would trace the family lineage of succesful 'stock'. Success in surviving into a space marine is partly genetic based so shouldnt they find the mothers and female relatives of their succesful aspirants and hook them up to breeding farms, keeping the male babies to raise into more CSM and taking the female ones to be raised to become glorified wombs. The horror being the industrial scale of rape and forced repeated impregentation to produce more rape victims and soliders.

reeeeee all of this fighting and shitposting makes me wanna post models and kitbashes or whatever on behalf of these anons

>>96339240
yep, also people dont really think about the horrific implications of hive cities and worlds even existing in 40k

Overpopulation was a 1970s scifi meme, but its based on women being under a fuckton of sexual violence or it cannot be possible. Not that GW wants (or really need) to explain that

>>96339240
Is it that much different from places like Krieg?

>>96339250
go to /wip/ to cry about models

>>96339250
Next thread will be better anon dont lose hope

Had a 1k game today as DG vs Spesswolves
It's really hard to see how the game is balanced in anyway below 1.5k. it was just a race to table the other guy. By turn 4 I killed all his models but was left with a dying drone 4 Plague marines and an LoC that resurrected

>>96339281
Yeah shitposters don't jump threads

>>96339266
i just want it to stop anon, its been going all thread

>>96339281
they said that several threads ago and IT NEVER STOPPED

>>96339286
it really is, you either absolutely shit on your opponent or they do the same to you. its never an even fight too, theres a good chance either you or your opponent will bring some unit thats a fucking pain to kill

>>96338717
Just finished Szeras.

What's the probability of getting a codex for Dark Eldar this edition?

>>96339304
Noice

>>96339312
They're gonna give them something, right?
What's next in line for 10th? Who hasn't gotten their codex yet?

>>96339304
Great work on the meatball

>>96339304
>unpainted base rim
Not done.

>>96339321
>unpainted
retard

>>96339324
I think he meant that there's no paint spill, that it's clean, not literally unpainted.

>>96339321
most people just paint it black or leave it that way, makes it look nicer imo

>>96339312
Basically 100%. If they were getting folded into Eldar they would have done it earlier this year. They also haven't made any reference to them as an index faction the way they did for Deathwatch or Chaos Daemons.

>>96339318
Just Drukhari and Imperial Knights. Knights had some weird production issue that pushed it back so far.

>>96339347
Dark Eldar for the big flashy end of 10th, it has to be
>Drew Carey

>>96339312
Daemons and Dark Eldar, Knights got postponed but it's there. I don't know if it makes sense to release a codex that isn't available anywhere, which is why I asked.

>>96339259
GW seems to want to have it the other way, the popul;ation is so eager and consenting they need hive world officials to put sterlisation drugs in the hive water supply to help curb the crazy population growth. So its presented as a universe where sexual violence is left unmentioned and only vaguley referred to for when talking about the worst of Slaanesh followers.
Funnily enough theres never been a mention in 40k about a materinity hospital. You'd think a hive world would have several big ones for the higher spire population and the lower hive would build their own and they'd be big places. But nope never mentioned or really thought about.
>>96339262
Not too different but chaos run ones would be more brutal and cruel for sure

>>96339353
you don't make something big and flashy by putting the nobody no one wants to see front and center

>>96339376
The hype would be tremendous
I bebiebe it

>>96339312
>10th edition ends with the destruction of commoragh and the extinction of all dark eldar
Kino

I hope you all get everything you asked for and nothing you wanted.

>>96339481
I dont think about you at all

>>96339304
Why didn't he make a Pariah's refresh? In the Pariah Nexus? WHY!?

>>96338971
Jog on yank, nowhere in the UK even has the murder rate of your shitholes

Do you need to read the core rules THEN the rule updates or is there one document that keeps it all up to date?

This seems super confusing.

>>96339043
It's also sliced by CAD where early plastics were probably sliced by hand or more primitive algorithms

>>96337025
I was seriously considering getting tau untill I saw the change and then actually killing 2 of the weapons
It's even worse than what they did to Tyranid warriors, although there they mostly lost melee flavour

>>96338436
You mean the unit or the sculpts? Because nobody ever has said they prefer the old terminator sculpts when the new ones are the same thing but better scaled and with crisper detail.

>>96338516
What's the space marine 2 class refering to, anon? Can you say it?

>>96338926
Better than featureless mdf unpainted L shapes.

>>96339575
It's on the Official™ Warhammer™: 40.000™ App™ from Apple™ AppStore™ or Google™ Playstore™. Alternatively you can just go to Wahapedia for the collated version.

>>96339303
We have house rules like nothing above 250pts and max of 2 units(4if battleline). Still it's basically snowball territory. I played as Mortys Hammer and despite their rule being only half as effective in a 1k game. Being able to tag their big tanky unit with -1save and toughness and nuking it with 2 drones from more than half way across the map turn 1 is just oppressive.
Those Thunderwolves with shields are absolute bitches to deal with though. They just eat up everything they touch and invul saves protect them from the plague

>>96339078
Space Marine Torsos are so strange nowadays with how they connect to the legs. It’s a miracle head and arm swaps are still so easy there (assuming it’s not an etb kit)

>>96339704
To be fair, DG are ridiculously meta right now, to the point where GW has to be doing it on purpose considering how untouched they are from the nerf hammer.

>>96339304
Cute

>>96339704
>max of 2 units(4if battleline)
That's an official rule at 1k now

>try to make a new list for the first time in a while
>try using new recruit
>everything is now fucking SUBSCRIPTION LOCKED
Why do people do this?

We frigpostan, we frenspostan
>high resolution image below
https://files.catbox.moe/7cfwla.png

>>96339834
where did you find that pic of my group's tau player after he flooded the group discord with tau anime art?

I'm getting there paint wise, I can feel it.
Was the biggest thing I've painted so far.

>>96339870
I might be pulling one of these out of my pile next. Seeing how good yours looks is getting me excited.

>>96336873
WE are 90% gone. Only high ranking named berzerkers are OG WE. The rest are from renegade chapters or vat clones.

Is the new Lelith Hesperax book good?

>>96339897
That does not mean they cant paint their armour in blue/white.

>>96339905
not really no. only two worthwhile recent releases were the Cawl book and Creed: Ashes of Cadia

>>96339905
no

>>96339905
It starts off strong and falls off a cliff near the end.

>>96339834
The only thing sub locked is attaching leaders and strats, both of which aren't usually exported in army lists anyway.

>>96339883
Orcco Rosso...

>>96339240
Yeah, after actually reading the book by myself, I came to find it's disturbing and all, but it's far from the boogeyman sloppers make it out to be
Or maybe I'm desensitised to horrid shit, who knows?

>>96340035
I have read the books years ago, as a teen. I did not think of it as super gross desu. Who knows indeed.

poxwlakers are very OP right now

I feel like GW has finally dialed in a pretty good amount of detail for DG models.

Bake

I wonder if the newrecruit guy did get laid in the end

>>96340043
60 pts for infiltrating chaffe that have fnp6, regenerate on kill, lethal 6 and if 1 survives on turn 3 it becomes a 9 inch nexus for the black death.
Yeah they're good
I've had like 9 DG games since codex release and I went from bringing 2 units of them to 3. Only game I lost was with new 1ksons who brought tons of flamers with his marines, the loss taught me that 5man plague marines might be better than the 10death brick since they keep overkilling shit. My rematch proved that

Imperial Knights never ever

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ceirqemh/sunday-preview-miao-ying-raises-a-storm-in-the-old-world/

how the fuck do votann hit anything with their power fists

>>96340152
Carefully

How do you go from this?

to this!

>>96340152
>power fists
Do you mean "kin melee weapon"?

>>96340180
she got those uwu kawaii anime eyes

>>96340180
By not flooding every single crease in the face with agrax earthshade and painting heir eyebrows.

>>96340119
Qrd?

>List building in Legions Imperialis gets an update with Liber Strategia, a 240-page book that collects and updates previous content from core rulebooks, The Great Slaughter, The Devastation of Tallarn, and The Rise of the Dark Mechanicum. It contains complete up-to-date Detachments and Formations for Legiones Astartes, Solar Auxilia, Mechanicum Taghmata, Dark Mechanicum, Collegia Titanica, and Knight Households
I like that. That should be the norm instead of a whole new edition every three years. Just a new set of rulebooks that compile every supplement and balance change made since the last one.

>>96340124
Fnp5 actually. The regeneration is neat because they can actually kill other chaff but in my experience they never get to connect. But yes, easily best chaff unit in the game tied with gretchin

>>96340231
A couple months ago you were greeted on newrecruit by a message that said "guys, add me on instagram so i can impress this girl"

>>96340235
All rules and balance changes should be a free PDF, not in a physical book.
Physical books should be for collectors and fluff enthusiasts

>>96340131
>mfw