Thread 96359291

Upgrading from sticks and stones, here comes another premium thread of the Board Games General.

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This general encompasses all board game genres - Eurogames, Ameritrash, Ameritreasure, Abstracts, Wargames, and especially the game that one anon is autistic about at this very moment.

TQs:
How much does component quality matter to you when deciding on a purchase?

Do you have any favorite games with abysmal pieces?

Why aren't you pnp'ing that OOP game you really want? If it can't be replicated with cubes and cardstock, was it ever a good game?

First for COIN

>>96359291 (OP)
First for root sucks
>TQ1
Hardly matters to me, probably even less than the theme and artwork
>TQ2
Hard for me to tell what would be considered abysmal pieces, some say hansa teutonica has ugly components so maybe that
>TQ3
Im just lazy

>>96359360
I find it funny how COIN discussion these days is contextualised solely within its relation to Root.
What an L.

Got roped into playing viticulture and tapestry last night by someone in the group who was whining that we never play his games
How does Jamie stegmeyer even have a job?

96358973
So you recommend civolution? Besides Shackleton.
I'm asking just because you didn't mention it.

>>96359400
Nobody playes coin games. They play root and robin hood.
It is what it is.

>>96359549
Meant for
>>96358973

>>96359291 (OP)
>TQ1
a bit, but the floor is low. I'm willing to pay more for higher quality components/deluxe version.
>TQ2
I guess Netrunner (if that counts) since the new sets are fan-made and the cards arent printed with the level of QC that officially-supported card games have. set-to-set quality varies, within-set quality varies, etc.
>TQ3
I'm an adult with a baby and a job, the time to craft (which I would not enjoy) to end up with an inferior product is not worth it.
the second this kid can hold dice and not eat them, it's on

Thoughts on wondrous creatures?
I liked Amazonia.

Nth for mommy monique

Gaia project expansion worth it? The game is arguably a bit bloated already even without the expansion. Still, i have to admit it looks like it could be fun.

>>96359756
Personally I hate bloated games, so if the expansion doesn't diminish the bloatedness in any way, I wouldn't get it

>>96359400
>crap mass appeal game gets compared to better games it tries to ape
What an L.

>>96359756
I thought it was good. It surely isn't innovative, just giving you more options in a game that already has a lot of them. Classic more of everything, and I liked it here

>>96359291 (OP)
>tq1
Pieces should be adequate. I am still seething months later because of Pax Hispanica standees. Utter rort.
>tq2
Plenty GMT games are pretty ugly. Dominant Species Marine is probably the ugliest I have relative to its potential for cool toy factor. Honorable mention to Toy Battle which doesn't do what it says on the box.
>tq3
I pnped Indonesia. I imagine that it's better quality than the real thing given Splotters ludicrous pricing and the fact that I used some guy's custom map.


>>96359463
Easy to have a job when you own/found the company.

>>96359584
I didn't want to reshill it, hence the quote at the beginning of my post

But yes, I think Civolution is very much excellent. In short, it honestly isn't as interactive as I would prefer either, but it more than compensates with insane replayability and a very, very great balance of longterm planning and tactical improvisation. You CAN do what you want, but it poses the interesting question of how much time are you willing to sacrifice doing it and if just going with the flow of your dice isn't more efficient. Love it.

>>96359360
>>96359400
That's more of an indictment of neo-bgg than COIN, you know?

>>96359557
The biggest L is the COIN game that was supposed to get non-COIN players excited about COIN was a flop for both new players and existing players. There are so many CDG based/asym faction games now (that are better in everyway) that most players have just moved on.

>>96359291 (OP)
PnPs have maximum soul, holy fuck...

>>96359700
I can't see her without seeing that hairy birthmark.

Does anyone know how to extract encrypted images from ZunTzu game packages? There are some games there I want to port to TTS.

>>96361429
Did you try using Inspect Element and going into the Network tab??

>>96361438
>Windows app
>inspect element
???

>>96359291 (OP)
I have a few criteria with component quality
>Is the quality so bad it negatively impacts the gameplay in some fashion (1st and 3rd editions of potion explosion)
>If the quality is bad, would it be a hassle to improve it (Can cards be easily sleeved, cardboard pieces replaced with plastic, wood, or metal, etc)
>Is the quality so bad relative to the price that the box is a scam (go fuck yourselves Splotter)
If the answer to all three is "No", then I won't have a problem. I haven't bought Twilight Imperium 4 yet because I'm not paying $160 for a coffin box and cards of an annoying mini size to sleeve. I want Twilight Struggle but I know I'd have to buy the plastic counter set and a counter tray first, so that $65 game is really more like a $120 one.
That being said, War of the Ring has some pretty shit pieces but I like the game a lot. But you pretty much need the colored figure bases, extra dice, and a third party box insert for the game to even be playable. The playmat helps hugely, too so the text isn't so tiny.

>>96361488
Thought it was a website, apologies.

>>96360823
Are you talking about Robin Hood?

>>96359291 (OP)
>How much does component quality matter to you when deciding on a purchase?
I can deal with subpar component quality up to the point where the game is going to be damaged through regular play. I generally avoid anything like that unless it can be solved by sleeving, proxying pieces, or whatever.
I recently picked up Port Royal: Big Box on deep discount at my FLGS. The cards starting showing wear after our first game so I ordered sleeves for it. I would've been more annoyed about it if I didn't get the game for so cheap, but it was weird paying more for sleeves than I did the game.

>Do you have any favorite games with abysmal pieces?
I wouldn't call it abysmal (nor is this one of my favorite games), but the lane trays in Battle at Kemble's Cascade suck. I need to find 3D printed alternatives, but the game flew under the radar so I haven't had any luck yet. Maybe I'll commission someone to make some one day.

>Why aren't you pnp'ing that OOP game you really want?
I made a PnP copy of Shadow Hunters which came out pretty good. The only issue was that I printed the board too small, but I made do and had fun with the game. Then recently my awesome wife surprised me with an actual copy of the game for my birthday so I'm passing along my PnP to a friend who is a fan of the game too.
Next I'd like to print the spirits from Spirit Island Promo Pack #2. I already printed the spirits from Promo Pack #1 and I don't want to spend $30 to get them officially in Feather & Flame, but I haven't found scans yet.
Any anons know where I can find them?

>>96361658
Red Dust Rebellion. I know a lot more people that enjoy Gest than I know that like RDR. In fact, I haven't met a person outside of new owners of RDR or players that have never played another COIN the enjoy it.

>>96362322
>Red Dust Rebellion
Forgot it even existed.

Btw when is Uprising getting a reprint? I was available everywhere 2 weeks ago and now sold out,

>>96354656
I backed it but only for the BGA maps. Best way to play the game is everyone playing the same map, and you can't do that with the base game for reasons I will never understand.

>>96362322
RDR was supposed to get non COIN players excited?
I mean the theme is cool and it's not a historical one but the slightest look at the game already implies it's a pretty heavy game and surely not the best entry point?

I was very excited about it and had it p500'd but every update had me thinking yeah we'll play this exactly once

First for LNoE is the best survival horror game

>>96362985
what do you like about it

>>96362985
What is the point of this anon.
You know people are going to (rightfully) insult you, like every other time. What is the goal here? Genuinely curious. Don't say baiting, it's way too low effort, you are acting on desire or impulse and I really would like to know what it is

We did Splotters last thread, so lets do COINs this time

FitL = ADP > Pendragon > LoD > Falling Sky = Colonial Twilight > RDR = People Power = ABB > Andean Abyss = Cuba Libre
(Gandhi and multipacks unplayed)

>>96363078
The term you're looking for is 'uncontrollable compulsion'.

>>96363092
ADP> Cuba Libre > Ghandi
Havent played the rest, but man oh man do I want to experience FitL, Falling Sky, and Pendragon.

>>96362985
>LNoE = the best survival horror game
>Munchkin = best dungeon crawler
>Campaign For North Africa = best filler game
>Talisman = game with greatest player agency
>18 player Mega-Civilization = best party game

Fairy tales /bgg/ style: "You mofo's aren't going to believe this, but...."

>>96362538
How do you like Ark Nova? The 3D minis version is "fuck off" expensive, but the acrylic tile set IS tempting. I have known about it for a while. Is the solo mode good? I've been getting a lot of usage out of solo modes lately.

>>96363106
I believe it's actual autism, but I would really like to hear his rationale.

I p&p Bloodstones this year since secondary market prices are kinda retarded.
Really happy with the outcome.
Looking forward to print the expansion too when it finally comes out.

>>96363192
>I believe it's actual autism

If it is, /bgg/'s 'Irony Meter' will literally assplode.

>>96363117
pendragon would be equal with FitL for me if it wasn't for the extra complexity. combat is cool but it takes too long

>>96359557
Jokes on you I play RH on BGA, Andean Abyss and Vijanagara on RTT, FitL over VASSAL, and Gandhi solo against the bot deck :^)

>>96363241
looks great anon
favorite faction?

>>96361429
I spent 5 minutes looking for and reading the documentation: https://zuntzu.com/create_gamebox.htm
A .ztb file is just a structured .zip file. You can rename it to change the extension and open it with anything that opens a .zip file.

>BGA
>Hey guys anyone want to play basketball? I just got NBA 2K26.
>Recently read this book called The Gutenberg Galaxy. It's a little dry but the narration is great!
You people make fun of War of the Worlds starring Ice Cube but it's what you deserve.

>>96363552
...are you alright anon?

>>96363241
I want to tell you that it looks neat, yet I cannot help but notice how you had the chance to make the map larger and fit a reasonable number of tiles, yet didn't

>>96363537
I'm aware. The images themselves are encrypted (.jpg.encrypted filename).

>>96363552
lil bro upset that people enjoy board games digitally lmao

>>96363682
I have played two games with apps and neither were good. There was a palpable "someone paid too much for this, so let's try to pretend to enjoy it" experience, more than usual.

>>96363728
So this is another flavor of stop enjoying things I dislike?
Bga, tts etc will never come close to physical gaming, but it is the next best thing and I prefer it to not being able to play at all.

>>96363643
I went poking around on the forums and did not find much info on it, aside from the fact that the sole purpose of this feature is to stop users from ripping assets out of the games to placate publishers.
You could try throwing ZunTsu into a disassembler to see how it decrypts the files but that's a lot more effort than I'm willing to put in and might be too complicated for you to do yourself.

>CGE will now donate 100% of harry potter codenames profits to tranny organizations
Has the whole fucking world gone crazy, I always assumed the slavs will not falter in their indifference towards these artificial shitshows, guilttripping by association and such.

>>96362985
Why don't you just roll over and die already. It's time. It's been time for a long time. There's nothing left for you in the world. No reason to keep going. This one final gift to humanity - no longer being burdened with your presence.

>>96363749
Physical games are superior as social/pasttime experiences, but digital utterly mogs as competitive experience. With set-up/accounting taken care of you can concentrate entirely on the game. Its also just sheer volume. I can run 8 games of Ark Nova at the same time and get more Ark Nova gaming done in a week than any physical purists do in a year.

>>96363749
Who told you to stop?
>>96363763
>Has the whole fucking world gone crazy
Emphatically yes.

>>96363850
>Who told you to stop?
His persecution complex

>finally got every single fighter for Exceed
Thanks for reading my blog.

>got hit with turn 1 AR 6 Blockade
>it goes through
I may be in panic mode.

>>96363836
You first, bitch hole faggot

>>96363980
You think swearing like a teenager makes you fit in but in reality, it makes you sound infantile and hints at your mental capacities degenerating. You're not impressing anyone by saying bitch or faggot on 4chan. You're just showing how far your dementia has progressed.

>>96362322
From what I recall reading, People Power is the new intended entry point for COIN and it's meant to be very good. Should be playing it soon.
>>96362820
I don't think it was ever intended to be babby's first coin. Maybe GMT thought it could bait theme dweebs hard enough, but it lacks the flair to elicit onions jazz hands.

>>96364233
Idgaf what any of you bitch-made faggots think about me, life or anything else for that matter

SILOS is good. Knizia does not seem to ever miss

>>96364574
Played about 40 of his and he doesn't really miss so much as games that don't hold up against his other games. Is SILOS the remake of Municipium? If so that's one of his I sold, but I gotta say it was mostly because the ugly box made it unplayable.

Chvátil sucks. Dungeon petz sucks

>>96364574
He really knows the maths behind fun.

>>96364574
How does he do it

>>96364662
Did you expect something good out of anything that substitutes an ending "S" with a "Z"?

>>96364392
Pull up your cargo shorts senile old fart.

>>96364392
Why do you keep posting your pet game here, then?
I'm afraid /bgg/ is not the best outlet for your autistic compulsions anon. But I'm sure they'll be happy to hear all about it on the gulag!

>>96364662
I respect chvatil more than I like his designs. Nothing I really liked but one has to admit that his spectrum is very impressive. From light partygame and realtime coop to abstracts and heavy euros, the man has done it, and quite successfully so.

>>96364628
it is yeah. the new theme of alien abductions will go over a lot better with most people i know
>>96364662
nuh uh. i like the worker placement priority auction and planning out a massive pet sale is satisfying
you were playing with the double symbols and more foresight rules right?

>>96364705
Pretty sure I'd like the game, but something deep in me refuses to spend money on products that change s with zeds

Games to play with girls who aren't into the hobby? So far Carcassonne and Paleo went pretty good.

>>96365388
>Playing with casual scum
>Playing with female casual scum
ISHYGDDT

On a more serious note, might be a bit cliche, girls and word games and all but So Clover is just so good

>>96365388
Bullet , bitches love bullet .

>>96363623
You are absolutely right wich is something much to my dislinking.
This map is just 4 DIN A3 sheets slaped together and the first try. Future prints will absolutely be bigger. Probably 3x2 pages. Printing something bigger than A3 is unreasonable expensive.
Been thinking about ordering a linen print from aliexpress with a map jpg but I'm a bit hesitant since I don't know how they handle that.

>>96363476
Necromancers>horselords>Dragonriders>Corsairs>Trolls
Necromancers have a nice alrounder feel to them. Trying to pick off targets early to get zombies is great but they function well even if you don't have the necromancer+cavalry in your hand right away.
Trolls are just lame and boring. The added mobility through mountains is still very costly and turtling as a strategy is just bad unless Chaos Horde is in the game.

>Chaos Horde
Too crazy and unbalanced in my opinion. Never had a game with them where they didn't absolutely dominate.

>>96364662
Funny you hate the one good game he made

>>96365666
>chaos horde
have you seen the rules changes to the faction?
- No longer start the game with 10 VP.
- Do not have the initial 5 build points during setup (but still start with 9 tiles).
- The initial unit must be built in an empty area at the edge of the map (with a few exceptions to cover edge cases, like the map with no land area at the edge, or when all edge areas are occupied).
- Can build units in areas at the edge of the map or in uncontested areas where they already have units (can no longer build units in an area containing any enemy unit).
- Now capture villages like other factions, at the start of their turn.
- Score +2 VP each time they score VP (+2 VP per village captured, +2 VP per battle won).
- Enemy factions score 0 VP when defeating Chaos Horde in a battle (except Corsairs which score 1 VP with their bonus).
they also altered capturing villages in general (amongst some other changes):
- Capturing a village now scores you 2 VP instead of 1 VP.
- You score captured villages immediately rather than at the end of the game.
- Captured villages are returned to their owner's supply, meaning they can construct them again later.

>>96359291 (OP)
>How much does component quality matter?
A lot. Card construction, token construction, pretty much any aspect that will get handled, shuffled, and jostled routinely should be made so that it can take abuse. There exists work around like sleeves, coin holders, and other after market solutions to address these short comings, however, I have zero issue paying more for a game that doesn't have these problems or AT LEAST has the storage setup for those that will use the after market solutions in mind.

>Do you have any favorite games with abysmal pieces?
Marvel Legendary USED to fit that role but the cards are no longer able to be shuffled so it's a non-functional game now. It was THE game that made me go sleeve Nazi after it died and Too Many Bones was the game that made me realize better components are worth the price because I've played that fucker to death and it still looks basically new. Maybe not as shiny but that's all.

>Why don't you PNP that game?
Other than legendary dying early on in my early collecting days, I've taken steps to protect my games, so I've never really had to use the PNP option for stuff I want and most pure PNP stuff is kinda shit from my experience.

Is Horseless Carriage the fiddliest game in existence?

I just ordered Troyes. did i make a mistake?

>>96366017
Not even close

Is there any game with a worse rulebook than Apocrypha?
It doubles down on the dumb fuckery by having an even worse learn to play official video series.

The actual game itself is really good shit and you can find it for cheap, but you HAVE to find fan made rules reference and setup guides or else you will never understand it?

>>96366017
Try Roads&Boats. Hard mode: no resource is allowed to fall off the production or transport.

>>96366081
Is there a game that has more clusterfucky look on the table?

>>96366133
Sidereal Confluence

>>96366021
I've played it once but I liked it. It might be over-tuned though. Everyone was within a few points of 50.

>>96366021
Troyes is the best dice euro

I just ordered bus complete edition, did I fuck up?

>>96366081
You weren't playing mean enough of everyone was over 50

I think I'm about halfway done, haven't checked.

Anon's I need help, my dad has a monthly game night I've been going to for a few years (I'm basically replacing one of his friends who died awhile back) where it's me, my dad and two of his friends. I enjoy getting to spend time with everyone they're all pretty pleasant, however they keep playing the oldest shit imaginable and I feel like I'm gonna lose my mind. The board games we generally pick are all "digital" versions my dad programmed and we have like a pseudo lan-party. Anyone got any tips for surviving this?

>>96366727
>The board games we generally pick are all "digital" versions my dad programmed
So the games are original, your dad designed them? If not what games do they play?

>>96366625
>I just ordered bus complete edition, did I fuck up?
Wait what was missing from any other edition?
Still a great game, solid pick up, Im just unclear on the point of calling a rerelease of it "complete".

>>96366727
Do I understand this correctly, your dad has boardgame meetups that are just everyone sitting in front of their screen and playing a digital implementation of an actual boardgame?

This raises so many questions but I'll just ask this one; what games do you play?

>>96366823
Complete disregard of respecting the players wallet

>>96366133
There are very very few games for me where artwork overwrites gameplay, but HC is one of the absolutely ugliest pieces of fiddly tablehog trash I have ever seen

>>96363173
Ark Nova is a 9/10 but there are some massive caveats.

>Teaching games are 4 hr sessions. Once you know the game you'll avoid newbies like the plague
>It doesn't really open up strategy-wise until you have multiple plays
>It can be very easy to miss passive effects from your tableau unless you know the card effects really well
>Some of the asynchronous maps are very unbalanced, Silver Lake and Ice Cream Parlors mog most of the other maps

The new edition having 4x copies of all the maps is a game changer though. The game really shines balance-wise when all players are using the same map. Unlike Terraforming Mars, a vast majority of the cards are playable in every game. I can really only think of 2-3 cards that are outright bad, and even they can have some niche scenarios where you can extract value from them.

>>96366823
I think it's lacking some things the 20th anniversary had, the board with the original artwork. I don't know if it has anything more than some prior version.

>>96366858
Isn't ark nova just bloated euro slop? That's the impression I get looking at it on the table

>>96366021
Troyes is good but the teach can be a pain in the ass. You'll be explaining the two dice allocation phases multiple times to newbies, and looking up how each activity card works on the reference sheet each round is super aggravating, especially if you have the expansion cards which includes two more reference sheets that you have to juggle. The six round structure is also weird for 4-players since it's not evenly skewed. Some players will bitch about 1st player not being evenly distributed even though going first is often a hindrance to your dice pool.

>>96366869
Ark Nova is a heavy euro, but it's incredibly well designed. I didn't appreciate it my first play, but if you're willing to give it the time it deserves it really opens up. You can play 100 games of it and get a different experiences and strategic lines each game which is not something you can say for most euros.

>>96366906
In a 4 player game, starting 2nd is probably best, but the difference is minor. I have thought about trying out a house rule where turn order depends on something players do, like spending in brass.

I think Troyes is really more of a 3 player game, but it works well at 2 and 4.

>>96364331
>intended to be babby's first coin
It was intended to be a heavy gamer's first COIN and fun for die-hards. The theme and factions are awesome - but the game play is a slog and win conditions are geared toward attrition so there's no balance.

>>96366822
>>96366827
Off the top of my head there's a few, I'll do my best to remember: Puerto Rico, Zombies!!!, Runebound 2e, Talisman (original, no expansions), Nuclear War, the Original 1987 Arkham Horror, Aquire, Valley of the Kings, Caylus, Hacker, Starship Merchants(?), Rail Baron, Power Grid, Buck Euchre (card game). I'm trying to remember the rest but it's a struggle, I enjoy some of them but everything is in ASCII. When I say CODED, I mean OLD CODED.

>>96367087
So instead of playing power grid the board game, you play power grid DOS lanparty edition? That is bizarre

>>96367135
Yes, I think it's because one of his friends moved and so what was previously monthly Sherlock Holmes and board games sometimes has to be done over like... Google hangouts with the one guy, and the 3 of us on a table, then swap to digital board games. NOW if the other guy shows up we play board games, but for like the past several years it's been this weird pseudo lan party thing. Worst thing is, I don't even like power grid.

>>96366953
How do you feel about Paladins in that regard?

COSMIC
ENCOUNTER

>>96367087
>>96367146
I mean it is bizzare indeed but at least there's a reason to it. Why not move to bga at this point? Enforced rules and you can at least look at the actual boards, albeit digitally.

>>96367172
The exact opposite. You can see everything Paladins has to offer in like 3-4 plays.

>>96367222
I really don't know, I've recommended numerous other options but they're all stubborn as fuck, same goes for if I ever brought in new physical board games they hadn't played before would get shot down. Also I dunno if BGA has those specific games on but but I haven't looked for those games ever (except maybe runebound, I do enjoy runebound)

>>96367087
What the flying fuck. BGA is bad enough, I'd kill myself before playing board games like this.

Is it not an option to get a physical board game and plop it down on the table?

>>96363891
now start collecting BattleCON, the superior L99 card game fighting game

>>96366869
>>96366953
I have played over 100 games of it and wouls not say it is well designed. Sure there is a high power ceiling and +500 elo players mostly crush me with a ~20-30 point lead but that doesn't I have to pretend it's well designed. As you say, it sometimes takes, especially with new players, far FAR longer than it has any right to. Opening hands can catapult you forward or stifle your start etc. It is, however, the equivalent of boardgame fast food, there's enough variance to keep it fresh

>>96367277
Anon, I'm autistic. But I've had years of working to hone my autism like fine Nippon steel. These guys are 80's nerds who just kind of let it fester and that's how we are where we are now.

More grim details, the games will frequently break, and when they do we all have to stop my dad has to check everyone's monitor to see what the error was then we have to restart from scratch.

>>96367258
I mean that doesn't sound like change is really feasible tbqh

>>96367310
Part of me knows this, it's funny because back in the day my dad was a big board game hobby guy. Ran an old school blog with connections to Fantasy Flight and Hasbro back in the day, got lots of free stuff to review, and now I feel like he's just kinda locked in, doesn't wanna try anything new, and just play his stuff until the end of time. Which sucks, I enjoy some of the games but playing them on a dos prompt that breaks frequently makes me crave death. The hell of playing fucking Buck Euchre on a shitty laptop on a table of 3 people and a guy on webcam.

>>96367301
>Opening hands can catapult you forward or stifle your start
You can get lucky with opening cards aligning with the conservation projects, but I've found 8 cards is usually enough to form a decent starting hand most of the time and you can have strong starts without having to do a round 1/2 project.

I've never felt the need to do this in an over the table setting, but I have wondered how a draft or london mulligan would work out for your opening hand.

>>96367305
I missed the post where you said that one guy is remote, so I can at least understand the need to play digital. But not like this...

Try TTS, plenty of shit is on there and you can fuck around to entertain yourself at least.

>the games will frequently break, and when they do we all have to stop my dad has to check everyone's monitor to see what the error was then we have to restart from scratch
Stop. Please stop.

>>96367410
I've tried offering TTS but my dad is a bit far back on understanding anything relatively new "gaming" wise. Steam or GOG is a foreign concept to him, the only stuff he does on PC (other than the dos games) is Civilization 2 and some 90's release of MTG planeswalkers for PC.

I could just link the fucking thing we use to play it here, it's just publicly available online since he runs a whole server for it.

>>96365095
Make me, you stupid little bitch

>>96365736
He has yet to make even one good game, as far as I'm concerned

Does anyone know where all the cute and virginal board game girls are? Because they're not at any places I frequent. Saw a few at gencon, but they probably weren't virginal, and knew how good they were, so they were too confident. I just want a low confidence big tiddy virgin gf to play games with.

>>96367563
If they're low confidence and a virgin that means they don't leave the house anon.

>>96367563
>low confidence
Ew.
She wont go knives out at the drop of a hat with that mentality.
Hard pass.

>>96367181
Truth. Cosmic encounter is all games in one.

>>96367563
In church groups, I'd assume? Surely one of them is waiting for a schizo lanklet to appear and take her to his boardgame fort? Wait no that actually sounds comfy

>>96367461
It's hard for me to grasp how someone can be into tech stuff from the 80s (assuming he was young then and not already a boomer), and not grasp something as simple as fucking Steam and using a mouse. I always assumed ineptitude at basic tech was a product of being completely unexposed to it until it became ubiquitous. Not nerds that can fucking program.

If he's 65 or below, tell him to get TTS and try new games or you'll piss off from the group. There's absolutely no reason to positively suffer this shit. Meet him for a family dinner instead and leave him to his boomer ways.

>>96367461
Well, you already know the answer. Leave the group you're not having fun with. Find something else to do with your dad or don't do anything with him.

>>96367293
I have almost everything for Battlecon. The only boxed release I'm missing is Wanderers which will SURELY see a reprint one day....
The only promos I don't have are the promo fighters from the original kickstarter and the higher tier pre-season Organized Play promo alt costumes.

>>96363763
I got into this thread just to talk about this. What the actual fuck is happening? Was it always like this? I thought this hobby would have more of the other kind of autism, not this tranny-loving shit.
Are there other games that took a hit to the score because of similar reasons?

>>96367881
The other kind of autist has no interest in social causes. These people have been getting their way for two straight decades now, so of course they're emboldened to scream louder and louder over shit that is less and less important.

Games everybody owns but nobody ever plays

>>96367950
I wanna say Monopoly

>>96367950
Hanabi and Tapestry

>>96367563
>virginal
Bro, you're weird. They're probably actively avoiding you.

>>96368028
He just wants her blood for the ritual that brings back FFG.

>>96367881
Welcome to the internet in the age of the echo chambers, where you're always angry because anger is the most engaged state a human can be in, and the "social" networkks' agorithms prefer more engagement

>>96367881
This hobby has a high percentage of troons and SJW faggots for some reason. Go to any convention and you'll find a handful of them. They're usually self-absorbed and annoying as fuck on top of all that, as exemplified by making a fucking Harry Potter game somehow about them.

>>96368136
Decreased consciousness promotes abstract thinking and disconnection from reality, so they gravitate towards more cerebral hobbies.

>>96368222
Consciousness is the seed of abstract thinking

Does anyone have English or JP scans for Chocobo Party Up? TTS' only has a spic copy.

>>96366823
all the pieces are made of wood

>>96367087
Kinda soul honestly. Having Valley of the Kings on there is pretty nuts though if it's implemented, gotta respect your dad a bit.

>>96367729
i had an old CS professor that was a legit researcher with awards and accolades that could barely use the GUI for MacOS. it's like an Elois and Morlocks kind of thing
what are Morlock coded board games?

>>96368437
I enjoy it, I just feel like the other anons said not having a board makes it just annoying. I don't wanna be like "oh half the fun of board games is the art and board" but it helps at least compared to something so sterile. And I care about my dad, just kinda one of those things where I feel like I gotta take a stand at some point.

>>96367729
He got into tech at the start, shit like punchcard computers and old ass coding, went to some old college called "Control Data Institute". I think at a certain point he basically said "Alright this is the technology I am sticking to." and just hasn't swapped or tried to learn more. He uses old macbooks and I think only like a year ago actually uses youtube now.

>>96367563
Sorry Anon, it sounds like you lack any board games for incels...

>>96366084
You would be EXTREMELY hard pressed to find one.
Apocrypha has a ton of great stuff going on with it. The characters being regular joes and janes that basically get saddled with acting as some kind of Hunter the Reckoning PCs. Like, actually common people like a frumpy, middle-aged lady who plays scratch off tickets for fun just suddenly has to go rip the head off a demented fey.

The game is very much just a respin of the pathfinder adventure card game, however, all the dice are d6 and you just make a bigger pool through card manipulation making the checks to clear cards far more straight forward. The cards you play might be effective at helping someone or not depending on their physical position IRL (card applies a buff to the player on your right, for example). The halo concept is neat. You take a 9 card storage sheet, like the kind used to store your collection for a TCG in a binder, and slot your character in the center pocket, the 8 card slots around them are your halo that may be good effects, bad effects, or just empty depending on what kind of outcome you got on a given adventure and there is a lot of adventures.

That is all hidden behind one of the worst, if not THE worst, rulebooks ever printed and a shockingly retarded way of explaining every single adventure setup in the book laying out said adventures. It is downright unplayable if you are just going by official documentation, be it written or video. The kicker? It was NEVER fixed, no attempt was ever even made, and the creator doesn't seem to give a shit because his "baby" didn't move a gorillion units. The game is finished, as in all parts planned are released, but you can frequently find it direct from the publisher for next to nothing.

Fantastic game, but I do not blame a single soul that shits on it hard because of how mind rapingly awful the rulebook and scenario book are.

What's in the box /bgg/? The hint this time is that it's a small box game and It doesn't have very good ratings on bgg.

>>96367881
It's been like this for some time, especially with anything concerning trannies. Worst thing is how eg. the gulag will censor and delete reviewbombing for one reason and ignore it for something like this. It is insane to me how a exceedingly small group of constantly online, very vocal perpetual victims is given the power to change the absurdest things instead of getting told to fuck off.

>>96366727
>>96369049
I could not dream of better support for my McLuhanian critique. Bravo.

>>96369287
wuzzat mean

>Dry spell extended to probably all of august
Really starting to feel the withdrawl tbqh

>>96369258
You aren't fooling anyone. It says "Fragile" - that's French for "Leg lamp".

>>96369258
BIOS Genesis and a rabbit bullet

Anyone played Amalfi renaissance? How is it?

>>96369258
ink, kites, push, uno??

>>96369339
>>96369471
This better be good or else I won't stop shitposting about it.

anyone played this? how is it?

>>96369915
Uh oh
I enjoy it
I also recognize it as able to really sour on people.

>>96369653
I keep mixing up this game with Ostia

Do we like NPI?

>>96370019
You should form your own opinion, anon

>>96369915
I hated this game, everyone I played with (including Innovation fans) hated it, and other groups that tried it never even got through a couple turns. It's probably the worst game I've played in the last couple years outside of Search for Planet X but even then, I'd play that over AS.

What games have the largest space for players to discover new strategies and new paths to victory? I dislike where games have an obvious, clear path to victory and there is no discovery in subsequent plays.
Agricola would probably fit this bill with the starting cards where you have to play a new way that you did previously and try to discover a new strategy. I'm sure other games do this better. But it does feel like most games just have a clear path or they present different paths to victory but it becomes clear that there is a clear dominant strategy.
Hansa T would probably also fit, Skymines/Mombasa, Ark nova???

>>96370019
Thoughts on SUSD?

Condottiere is so good bros

About Stationfall: "..but in terms of dramatic reveals or lots of interesting intrigue that goes on that was one are where I think Stationfall failed to deliver..."

About Civolution: "..the dice system is hancuffy and painful to interact with.."

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfYikgpl4RQ

Are these criticisms valid?
Were the Civolution shills wrong?
Has Stationfall run its course?

>>96370051
Tigris and Euphrates. And abstracts. There's a couple of sourpusses in here with regard to the latter.

>>96370117
True. Do you play the rules for that edition or the old version? I like the new ones.

>>96370051
Eclipse Second Edition comes to mind

>>96370132
>About Stationfall: "..but in terms of dramatic reveals or lots of interesting intrigue that goes on that was one are where I think Stationfall failed to deliver..."
Agree - but anyone going into this game thinking this was a game instead of a fun time with a bunch a chaos was misled.

>About Civolution: "..the dice system is hancuffy and painful to interact with.."
Disagree 100% - getting the tokens that let you change your dice is pretty easy and one of the things you try to upgrade first so this is a tard take. There are a lot of other things that make this game boring - how the dice work ain't it.

>>96370117
Which is apparently how I sold my used copy for 70$.
Condo enthusiasts be crazy.

>>96370056
Their slew of shorts with the asmr girl are grating and obnoxious.
Which is a shame as script wise she can shill a box fairly well.

>>96369915
Multiple Anons here have posted that they liked it. So the probablility that you will also enjoy it is definitely a number higher than zero.

>>96370056
Does Rahdo have ADHD, or is he just really nervous that the cops will find out he offed his wife, Jen, which is why she doesn't appear in any of his videos now?

>>96367950
Craps.

>>96369915
Learning this game is annoyingly difficult and teaching it is ACTUAL ASS but then you figure it out and spend a whole game looting islands as Rhodes and it's amazing.

>>96370147
I play the original rules, we disliked the new ones a lot.

>>96370051
I very much want that out of a game too. Or rather, I despise when games seemingly have multiple paths to check out and either one is clearly better or you end up not specializing but doing everything anyway

I think civolution does it very well. Also Argent the consortium

Update: I just secured a copy of Battlecon Wanderers.
Now my Battlecon collection is as complete as is reasonably possible.

>>96370436
Are they all the same edition?

Is there anything like Boop! but for four players?

>>96370442
I have Unleashed with the Devastation upgrade pack and all the updated fighters from that kickstarter, so I should have whatever is available in V4.

>>96370387
>spend a whole game looting islands as Rhodes and it's amazing.

Typical Rhodes! Getting all stabby on the neighbors.

>>96370436
I'm jealous. Play some good games for me

>>96367233
I gotta agree. I got Paladins as a gift, and it's shit.

>>96367881
>Was it always like this?
https://www.youtube.com/embed/DPptQj9zJnA?start=1413&end=1432

>>96369297
>McLuhanian
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/McLuhanian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_McLuhan
>critique
He's visiting the grave of a guy who died 45 years and instead of leaving flowers he's leaving an angry letter.
This happens all the time in academia.

>>96370452
>Boop!
It's "boop."
Try Blokus I guess, it's a spatial abstract thing but it doesn't involve displacing pieces.

>>96357235
Making sure you know there's multiple users that would love the scans, anon.

>>96371634
Slow and steady.

Any goto places to find PnP? all the ones I've done have just been taking files from bgg and here

>>96371662
huh, I thought PnP generals were a thing on here. You won't like what I type bro, but r/printandplay has a wealth of data. The only issue I have there is the amount of links to games behind a paywall.

>>96371738
Why would someone paywall a PnP when the reason someone is PnP'ing is 98% of the time because of cost...

>>96369653
I've seen people at the local club playing it and they have high praises. Might want to check it put for myself.

>>96370132
Regarding Stationfall they seem to think it's too complex - hard to remember each time and hard to teach to new players. They also mention that the whole hidden roles become obvious halfway through the game.

Civolution - I think the big problem they seem to have is that if the game requires you to mitigate the dice each turn to do the actions you want then the luckier player wins as he had to mitigate less. On the other hand, if the game is meant to be played by "riding the dice", going with the dice you get than you lose any strategic value as you just follow the dice.
They don't seem to have played it much so it might just be that you have to navigate between the two options to have an optimal game. But it does seem as a problem if the random dice are really so important for each turn - at least that's the impression you get when a game that is supposed to be heavy on strategy and is run by the luck of the dice rolls. It is not a mechanism that is usually used or even liked in these type of games.

What do you do in this situation
>Get a desirable, hard to get, out of print game new and cheaper than the original retail cost, and a LOT cheaper than the market value
>nothing changes with the tracking number for over a week
>message the seller, ask if I could get packaging
>"oh yeah man, I'll see what I can do and tell you tomorrow"
>radio silence
>message asking if everything's okay, maybe he forgot and needed a notification
>still silent

>>96372114
Start looking for it again. Usually by the law of the worst timing imaginable this is when the radio silence will be broken and all will be fine. But if it's not fine then it's best to be prepared for the worst.

>>96372229
Maybe I'll wait until the weekend is over. But geez, I hate this. I ordered the game on the 13th, I thought I'd be playing it by now.

>>96372114
When does your ability to reverse the payment close? Check that, and if you don't have any movement on the tracking number by then reverse the payment and send an apology to the seller.

>>96372250
It's ebay, so I think I get 30 days from the site itself as a default.

I put in my P500 order for Talon in January 2021.

And now, at long last, I HAVE IT. Talon is HERE.

>>96372418
Do you still want to play it? You can change a lot in 4 years

>>96370051
Great Western Trail seems to fit this. I have played it 20-30 times and i am still discovering new strategies all the time. There is quite a bit of nuance involved with most decisions in that game and i think it is a lot about adapting to the situation.

Superficially you could think of it as being like "you either go builders, cowboys, or engineers" but actually you will end up doing some sort of hybrid most times and the choices depend on the variable setup, available buildings, the available workers, available station master tiles etc. It feels different each time

Hey guys, I just scammed this guy on eBay and I need to find a way to hide the money, which is the safer haven, Barbados or Switzerland?

>>96372466
Even more than I did before. I've used TTS to try the first couples scenarios with friends a few times, and although they weren't blown away by it, it very much seems to live up to my expectations. I just need to find someone to play it with who will be grabbed by it too. The kind of person who would have enjoyed Starfleet Battles or Federation Commander if they were more streamlined.

>>96372527
I also already own the Talon 1000 expansion (picked it up cheap on a GMT sale when I thought the base game was right around the corner) so even if we somehow exhaust the seemingly inexhaustible possibilities in the base game box I can generate any one of 1000 different scenarios more or less on the spot.

>>96372504
Just send it to me, I'll make sure the authorities never find it

DC Forever is criminally underrated for how well it's designed
should be on more people's radar

>>96372572
>DC Forever
I'm gonna be completely honest, whenever I see a game with a superhero theme I completely ignore it.

>>96372607
If you're being honest then I'm gonna be honest too.
FUCKRENATURE

>>96372692
Never stop fighting, brother. Someday the oppressive regime will fall.

Now that the dust has settles, does it play good at 2 or it's like dune imperium and you really need a 3rd?

>>96372804
Is that right before, or right after Anon convinces that LNoE is great?

Hand full of a multi-use cards and a shared board, nothing better in board game design.

Dragons Eclipse. The idea of a game where you collect and tame or raise monsters is something I desperately need in my collection. By DE seems very much like cashgrab sloppa from the hour or so of research I put in. It's also ridiculously overpriced for what it is in my region. Is there anything out there that can give me that kind of , at the very least, raising individual unique individuals/monster, if not collecting them as well.

Is dragons eclipse the only one, is it actually worth the 200 local currency it would cost vs the average 80 dollar high end game i can get. I want to fill this niche but Ive already got dozens of games and dont want to buy just for the sake of it unless im getting that unique pokemon/digimon/monster rancher feeling

>>96373552
Even Lost Ruins of Arnak?

>>96374168
not that anon, but arnak is only ok and after a couple plays you've already seen all it has to offer, a bit more with the team leaders expa but it only adds one or two games per character before it gets old again

>>96374280
Doesn't Arnak have like 3 or 4 expansions? Surely they improve the game somewhat? I only played it once and it was fine. I wanted to like it. Similar to this anon >>96373552 I enjoy cards mixed with other major mechanisms, the theme is fine and it looks nice but it just didn't feel that special. I was hoping they would add more stuff to make it more like the more successful DI and eventually release a second edition similar to Uprising.

>>96374485
It has expedition leaders which adds what would be called asymmetrical faction powers in other games, and then the lost expedition which adds 2 more and then encounter cards (basically CYOA elements in the game)
I'm not aware of any other expansion but what they seem to add is just more of the same, nothing that changes the core of the game which is poorly disguised resource conversion after resource conversion
It's a fine game but the novelty wears off pretty quickly in my opinion

>>96370051
Ark Nova, every game is slightly different and requires tactical flexibility.

Hansa T does as well, though some games play similarly, really depends on who is sitting at the table to shake up the metagame. I won my last game without taking any privilege and only taking two upgrades(actions 3 and book for another merchant).

>>96373344
It's fine at 2, but having more players to compete for objectives and alien spots is more fun. If you want to teach the game 2 is probably fine, but I'd always seek out more players.

>>96374518
Expeditions, Leaders and Adventure chest.
Shame if its just more of the same. They had a blueprint to what works.

>Magical Athlete is getting reprint
>New shit by Garfield
>Look for the release date
>Find the box art instead
okay I'm starting to think between this and Quacks rebranding there's some ""consulting"" sabotage happening at that company

>>96374647
Z-Man's quality was hit or miss but at least they brought over JP games as-is.

>>96372043
>Civolution
How much to invest in mitigation and the tension between mitigating and following a longterm strategy vs using more but less efficient actions the dice give you is precise the tension that makes the game delicious, I would say

Plus there is a LOT of possibilities for mitigation.

Went to a indie game designer meetup to playtest some games and noticed the designers don't really play that many games?
Every time I tried one I would reference some other game use of the mechanics and without fail they would say "idk about that one", and I'm like wth? You people never heard of Bohnanza, Hansa Teutonica, Condottiere, Century Spice?

I'm not saying they are ripping off games, it's perfectly fine to iterate on an already established mechanic or game, or to even discover it on your own, but you would expect a designer to be knowledgeable in a fair amount of board games, let alone ones that aren't even that obscure.

>>96374647
which of these art styles am I supposed to hate?

>>96372607
This but for any game set in space.

>>96372607
Same here tbqh

Same with vikings, zombies and coops. It's becomi

>>96374647
Quacks has absolute trash art, but this seems fine.


Also what the fuck. With what game an I confusing this, I always thought Magical Athlete was a Knizia game

>>96374725
You'd also expect a reviewer to be good at games or at least have an easy time learning them.

But in your case I would think there's some weird pride that prohibits people from admitting their design is pretty similar/borrors elements of [game]

>>96373344
The REAL question

is it better than Brass Birmingham

>>96374867
they're not remotely similar games, but no

>>96373344
Is the success of SETI due to it's availability? Low price point, wide release paired with a pretty cover.
Shackleton base or Civolution on the other hand are pricier, less available and don't have attractive covers. Most reviewers rank these two above SETI.

What is you most played "big" game (not fillers, short-ish games that would skew the count)? Lets say in the last year.
Do you generally have a couple of games you rotate or new games every 2 months a couple of plays and move on?

>>96375059
The quality of the game doesn't matter, it's just marketing. Games that pay for reviewers to begin buzz, or pay to boost their kickstarters/gamefound, fraudulently raise their FOMO, etc. All little tricks that determine success. Very little to do with the game being good. Just look no further than miniature IP games constantly raking in money despite consistently being uninspired boring repetitive designs. The golden era of board gaming long passed about a decade ago

>>96374867
I concur with the anon saying that they're not even remotely similar but with just one play I wasn't very impressed by SETI, looked like standard fare tight optimization puzzle, whereas even after a dozen plays of Brass I still feel like playing more (still think it's vastly overrated, but I like it)

Why do games insist on making any Moon map white? It looks bad. Just make a dark outside board. With Skymines it was expected since a blind person did the graphic design but for Shackleton base you would think they had some sense. It's a moon crater but still, make it in shade on one side or something.
White boards seem to be in. See the new Manhattan Project: Energy Empire.

>>96375093
Played like 35 games of AffO last year
And I still kinda suck at it. I still have no idea how people break +135 in basegame consistently.

>>96375093
Civolution 100%

>>96375059
SETI has a much better production than either of these games and appeals to the broader euro heads that play Terraforming Mars. It's a real head turner when setup on a table, and I think the five round game arc is more appealing. I'd actually argue that SETI is a better game than Terraforming Mars for a number of reasons.

>>96374867
>Brass Birmingham
I thought this was designed by Martin Wallace but with new brass coming out I discovered that it was actually Gavan Brown who designed it.

>>96375360
Will you get The Danes?

>>96375471
>production
When thats the only thing you mention mattering to make it better than other games thats how I know the industry is cooked. The average gamer will always chose an average quality game with great visuals over an average with game with great quality every time and that is why mediocre stuff like SETI takes off. Most of the mainstream just wants something pretty on the shelf and for photos but fuck actually playing them more than once or even at all

>>96375582
SETI is not a mediocre game. I've played a dozen other games that came out this year that I'd happily never play again, and I'm still happy to play SETI when someone breaks. It's having a lot of success because it's an incredibly well rounded experience.

Want to get a new game. These are the ones I'm currently interested in.

>Shackleton base
I saw some positive reviews by anons her. It looks like an interesting game but doesn't stand out just by looking.
>DS Marine
I love playing the shorter version of original DS. But it's harder to get 5+ people and get them to play it. This one is supposed to work at lower player levels but has some other differences that make it somewhat different and I'm not sure it's for the better.
>Skymines
Never played Mombasa but I always wanted to try it. Good reviews, interesting gameplay. Won't be a problem to get others to play. But I hate the card colours and design as it all seems the same. At least in video and pictures.
>Civolution
A game that wasn't on my radar until anons here started shilling. Now I really want to play it. I almost convinced myself to buy it but the big problem is the space it takes. It wont fil nicely on my table at 4p. Seems weird but it's hard to play if the whole table is cramped full of stuff and everything is mushed together just to fit.
>Argent
Similarly to Civolution, it's a table hog. The art might be a problem for some of the other players and the I suspect the game might be too mean for one player that sort of avoids direct actions that hurt other players. He plays the games but usually avoids such actions and I suspect he would enjoy playing.
>Sol
Game looks weird. I like the idea of shared infrastructure and positive interaction. But I'm not sure of the rhythm of the game. Does not seem to be much feedback on this game overall.

>>96375647
And I've played a dozen other games this year that do exactly what it does just without the overproduction and that's the only reason why it's having success because of the marketing push it had to showcase that. You can't honestly try to argue that if it looked like castles of burgundy it would have sold half as well, or that the way it looks isnt part of the 'well rounded experience' you mention.

>>96375647
The criticism I've seen is that the aliens-modules are just different scoring options and that they don't really change the game much. This means that the game becomes very repetitive and not as replayable. What is your experience with the different aliens?

>>96375706
Argent is the tits.

>>96375093
I'm pretty consistent all things considered.
I always prefer to play 1 game several times rather than playing several games it couple times but at the same time I'm always up to try a novelty, maybe it'll become one of my most played, after all.

>>96373840
Check out Robomon.

>>96375578
>The danes
Most likely, yes. But I am hesitant, why the fuck does it need to be crowdfunded (oh I do get the economic reasoning, but I will see ZERO euro of the 40% retail share the publisher saves AND likely pay supidly high shipping). Yeah I do like (most) heavy rosenbergs a lot but I will not buy anything blindly

>>96375982
Have you played Planta Nubo?
It's a heavy Uwe right? I just remembered this game. I remember it was highly anticipated and then it's like it fell of the edge of the earth.

>>96375973
different anon, however i ended up cancelling my pledge for Robomon. they changed up the battle system fundamentally and it's been taking ages in development. doesn't seem like a good sign to me

>>96376014
I was initially very interested in it but took to watching and waiting when I saw how extremely kitchen sink-y it was, and, as you said, never heard of it again

>>96375710
You've seen over a dozen games this year that offer a 3 tier rotating board that positionally abstracts opportunity cost and area control mechanisms?

>>96375725
The alien modules do introduce some interesting mechanics beyond scoring options, but some are definitely better than others. I didn't love the Starship trooper bug aliens that basically just tacks on a pick up and deliver mechanism with dynamic rewards. The card rewards you get from the aliens I think are the best part though. They're all fairly strong and feel relatively thematic. One of my criticisms is that if you don't get early investment onto the aliens it's really tough to stay in the game without the strength of those cards. I can see the aliens getting old if you play it all the time, but I think they're releasing an expansion with more aliens fairly soon.

My main criticism of the game is that it's 30 minutes too long. A teaching game or any AP at the table and you'll be nearing the 3 hour mark.

>>96374725
Knizia says he doesn't really have time to play other games on his own but is shown them sometimes by his playtesters. Granted he's making a bajillion games, but those indie developers you're talking to are far less talented and probably spend the same amount of time on just one.
>>96375647
Yeah it is.
>>96375706
Sol, DS, or Argent. FWIW the rhythm of Sol, that circular mother ship movement you can't really avoid and must time right, is really unusual and I find that fun. The other great part is, as another anon recently realized, the absurd amount of variability in the (rather strong) powers.
>>96375891
Are you logging digital games?

>>96376404
Yes

>>96376725
>Are you logging digital games?
yes he is

>>96375093
Terra Mystica

>>96375891
we posting BG stats?

>>96376778
Thank you, anon's secretary.

>>96376725
>the rhythm of Sol, that circular mother ship movement you can't really avoid and must time right
Is it forgiving enough if you miss the optimal play or is it more frustrating?

>>96377091
Civolution stands out from you list of games.

>>96375882
How much space does it take on the table?

>>96372607
i understand that impulse, which is part of the shame. It deserves to be discussed despite vaguely tired IP theming

>>96377147
big

>>96377147
A LOT
Like AffO levels

Is Barbarossa worth it, or should I just find some WW2 hentai? Also, I'd have to buy it used, and I have some concerns about what those people may have done do the cards.

>>96377140
It's forgiving enough. There's so many different avenues, you don't get shut out of optimal moves completely in a frustrating way. I have heard people compare the feel of it to Hansa Teutonica. Imagine if in that game your place a cube action was only allowed in one quadrant which cycles each turn, but the other actions worked as usual, and you have something approximating what the mothership orbit does to gameplay.

Isn't Sol the game made by that herb on the dice tower? Sounds like an easy pass, please never compare it to the brilliance of HT

>>96377091
>>96375891
We posting bg stats!

>>96377285
Might be coincidence, but I have seen so many copies of sol on the secondary marked I already mentally markes it as shit game not worth checking out

But I think you might be talking about last light?

>>96377285
I have no idea who that is, but I believe the designer is a computational biologist or something and that doesn't sound like "herb on the dice tower." I also didn't compare "the brilliance."

>>96377140
>Civolution stands out from you list of games
in what sense?

>>96377091
I really shpuldtry Mind Bugs.
Your 2023 stuff is a good 90% in line with my taste.
You probably even got me into a few of those games.

>>96377286
>>96377091
Summoner wars goat'd

>>96376725
>Are you logging digital games?
As you could tell from my secretary, I am. I only play on Tabletop Sim so I still have to move a lot of pieces by hand lol.
Here's 2024 in purely physical form for comparison.

>>96377623
>Here's 2024 in purely physical form for comparison
Which is still a fucking powerhouse.
Kudos, dude.

>>96377346
Yes, last light is the game I'm thinking of, not sol
Hate that guy, he's a straight up herb

>>96377549
just got to play Mind Bug again last night. still pretty much owns. i have so much content for it now, but the mindbug system really helps keep everything balanced. it feels like a miracle how every game can be so tense
>>96377580
also played this yesterday. my dancing lizards won out over the pesky birds

>>96377678
Mindbug or summoner wars for a good dueler

>found a rare old game for a reasonable price
>can only find one copy available, across all print runs
>the one that's available is the print run with the worst art and components

I hate this.
Time to learn about paper types and print it myself

>>96377744
PnP is fun

Favorite solo game, pals?

Any shitty experiences with online sellers?

>>96377870
Spirit island, Earthborne Rangers, Sprawlopolis, and Imperium Horizons

>>96374725
>You people never heard of Bohnanza, Hansa Teutonica, Condottiere, Century Spice?
I've heard of those, these are classics. But I haven't played some of those obscure out of print ameritrash fantasy games from like 2015 that many here seem to love.

>>96375578
>I thought this was designed by Martin Wallace but with new brass coming out I discovered that it was actually Gavan Brown who designed it.
Fuck beer. Lancashire is the best. Who designed that one?

>>96377887
Based nobleknight punishing the feebleminded

Opinions on Hansa by schacht? I've seen it mentioned a couple times and some even say it's an underrated hidden gem, anyone played it?

What's the deal with tabletop turtle? Saw one of their vids for the first time and it looks like she's being held hostage by a creepy guy.

>>96377953
I wouldn't call it a masterpiece but it's good. I wouldn't play it with more than two players though.

>>96378036
>Bg couple channel
I have no idea why but I really, really feel the need to avoid these.

>>96378077
This.
Give me Calandale running through his ex wifes mental illness and eventual suicide before jumping into Pendragon any day of the week.

Thoughts on the new LOTR game?

>>96378062
Oh damn it's actually a 2p game... nevermind then

Finally giving the real bot solo mode a shot in Imperium.
Hopefully this is less brain burning than two handing.
But Im also trying out the japs for the first time.

>>96378241
do sleeved cards fit in the box?

>>96378250
I have sleeved everything except the Commons from Legends and Classics with Dragonshield Matte Clear (fucked up # of sleeves needed when I ordered whoops). Everything is kept in baggies which adds a lot of padding. Snug fit but nothing is ommitted other than duplicate sets of tokens from the C/L boxes.
Im looking to make tuck boxes for easier organization, but dont know if the files on bgg make boxes that can handle Dragonshield sleeves.

>>96378036
Man wants to make video reviews, but knows more guys will watch if their wife is in it.

>>96378386
so he's a cuck. there's another couple but at least both of them like games.

>>96378241
Aaaaand thats a Collapse trigger at 26 minutes in, W goes to the Bot.
I even had a turn with 3 unrest in hand, could have wasted the turn to return them all.
I decided to take even more Unrest with the Japs Clans card and be greedy.
I am impressed. This bot is very straightforward to run. Reveal card, look on bot checklist for card type, execute effect. Rolled die will match a bot card and cancel it from resolving that turn, plus dictate some bot effects. In this case, T1 rolling a 6 did not neutralise any bot card, but did prevent it from adding population tokens to the market to later acquire when multiple pinned cards showed up.
But the Qin end of turn auto adding pop to cards led to it acquiring and ending game anyway.
Im going to run this again with better unrest management and see how intuitively I notice the bots play patterns and can disrupt/counter its actions.

Is Lisboa good or is China just trying to unload surplus cardboard supply and commissioned the game to solve that problem?

>>96378092
Watching this guy's videos make me sad. Especially when you watch one of his 10-15 year old ones and then click to the latest and it's him talking about which anniversary of her death it is.

>>96374725
It's half early designers falling into the trap of "if I play something similar to my game, it'll taint my vision" and gives them an excuse to stick with what they know
The other half is most of the fags who play said classics are either established or too autistic to go to meetups
I know the frustration though, I've made it a point to not even mention other titles until I clarify what their inspirations were. And at this point I keep musing just going more and more to solo because of slowly burning bridges with the former camp

That does make me wonder what collective autism a bgg game would result in besides that train ttrpg
Pax Slop?
Wehrlegig?
Terraforming Nova?

>>96378706
A point salad.

>>96378517
>Lacerda
>good

>>96378706
euro with anime girls

>>96378768
Weebshit? Not on my watch

>>96378144
here's the designer diary if you're into that:
https://boardgamegeek.com/blog/1/blogpost/175726/designer-diary-lord-of-the-rings-fate-of-the-fello

>>96378144
I haven't tried it yet

>>96377870
Of the ones you have pictured? Warp's Edge for speed, TMB for legs although I got zero clue why your TMB box is so small.

>>96377734
Different beasts.

I wouldn't really consider Mind Bug a dueling game though. It's more about getting into your opponent's head and making the best out of the chaos you have been dealt.

Summoner Wars is way more tactics focused and milking the theme of your army for what it's worth. Birds rule, Bullshit drool.

>>96378880
what about games not in the picture? any recs?

>>96378894
I played mindbug without the mindbug gimmick and it became a better game for me

>>96378768
gross

>>96378241
>>96378434
I bought Classics months ago but I still haven't had the chance to learn the rules. Then I read that the rulebook had mistakes so you had to read some other bullshit and I kind of forgot about it. How can companies be so careless? It's the rulebook!

>>96378434
Wow, game two went the distance.
An hour and forty five minutes later, the Japs declared a masterful victory over the mainland yellows, 101 vp to 52.
Triggered game end 3 ways to Sunday, depleting the Market deck for initial trigger, while final round saw Qin also claim King of Kings and I developed the final card in my development deck.
The Japanese develop a disgusting board with tons of pinned cards, exhaust triggers off of plays you already want tondo, and great abilities to profit off of said board state.
The Qin bot was fairly peaceful, acquired a ton and amassed a large population. Never achieved an Empire, and by late game once when regions were gone, it cycled through playing Regions (unable to acquire more), attack cards (forcing me to lose regions at the cost of giving up its own) and Glory (usually not having enough region in play to obtain Fame cards).
Final impression of Imperiums solo mode: very nice! Resolving the bot was a breeze, so my attention stayed focus on piloting my own deck.

>>96378988
My understanding was the errors were mostly in the bot flowcharts in the solo rulebooks. I played with the Horizons bot cards that are all up to date, and so dont suffer from their dumb printing errors. If you teach people, it shouldnt habe an impact.
That said, in general, man that Legends/Classics rulebook is BAD. Not an all time stinker, but jarring flow, unclear terminology, and central keywords buried at the back. Even horizons has key details like how you obtain new cards left on PAGE THIRTY SIX.

>>96378768
>anime
When is the last time this general made art of human board game women? I only know about memes and caricatures of board game reviewers, and a lot of Root porn.

>>96379196
Why make art when very serviceable pics already exist?

The Canadian guy from Rodney Smith's channel has trooned out.

>>96379209
>serviceable
Uh, okay

>>96378962
what do you consider gimmick?

>>96377870
Spirit island
Assault on Doomrock
Under Falling Skies
Gloomhaven Buttons and Bugs
Agropolis

>>96375706
DS: Marine is very very good. Argent is EXCEPTIONALLY good. I think the only worker placement I would rather play over Argent is Three Kingdoms Redux, and that's a 3-player only game with space and time requirements that limit how often I can table it, so Argent still comes out more often.

>>96379384
>game with space and time requirements
Argent has space requirements. See here >>96377236
>>96377231

>>96379351
any "eccentric" "cutesy" "special" innovation that sometimes gets in the way

>>96379365
>Assault on Doomrock
Never heard of it. Looks interesting. is it OOP?

>>96379209
This image reminds me of those two girls that did reviews in some basement bg store(?). Cant remember the name.

>>96379384
How would you compare Marine to the original?

>>96377870
I can't tell the sizes of these game boxes. Which one is ttr/Carcassonne size?

>>96378036
Watched one of his reviews w/o the wife. Actually liked his review style. No jokey, how the game makes me feel shit, moreso talking about how it actually plays. Went to his channel to see if he had more only to discover he's fallen prey to the "five games I'd play in a gas station bathroom" style slop videos. Too bad, but I'm sure it gets him some views and much easier to pump out in comparison to a review.

>>96378434
>This bot is very straightforward to run.
Yeah. Turczi.

>>96377236
> A LOT
Campaign for North Africa looks on nervously...

>>96379561
he's the only one who talks shit about games. he completely shat on 'rights of women'. all the other youtubers are so phony.

>>96377734
Mindbug between Summoner Wars matches
>>96377870
ROVE
For Northwood!
Mage Knight
Under Falling Skies
Star Trek Captain's Chair
Zoo Tycoon the Board Game
Bullet
Civolution
Testament
Sentinels of the Multiverse
>>96378962
sounds awful - why do you like it?

>>96366727
>>96367087
SOVL. I want to play your dad's adaptations, has he ever released them online?
>>96372373
Ebay will cover you if you don't get it, don't worry. It's longer than that. Hopefully the seller didn't flake on you anon. I've had that happen and it sucks. What game?
>>96378144
I like it more as a solo game than a multiplayer one, but I don't like playing board games solo so it's not for me.

A Mexican I was playing with on BGA got butthurt in a game because I tanked his ELO by winning. Why the fuck do people get so wound up by ELO?

>>96379819
In almost 2000 games, most of them arena, I have never encountered this at any point. BGA is an incredibly well mannered place.
Which game were you playing? Maybe the reason is to be found in there

can't stop BG Stats postan
yes i considered hiding Vantage. CoB would have replaced it. i make my shame known to you, my brothers

>>96379755
>Mindbug between Summoner Wars matches
>>96379503
Starlit Citadel?
Ya, I miss them sometimes.
Thats where I bought Chaos in the Old World in what feels like a lifetime ago.

Alright you crooks, rogues, rapists, and scum of the earth
>>96380637
We are shipping you all off to a new thread
>>96380637
Here's your complimentary vegemite sandwich
>>96380637

>>96377237
I'm curious about this game too. Not so much for the cheesecake art as much as the theme. (I'd be willing to play the real photography version too, even if the colors are a bit dull with seemingly all the pics being black & white.) Deck-building a panzer battalion sounds fun.
>>96372114
I've occasionally had shipping stay stuck on some step like, "Package dropped off at carrier," for a over a week until the day before it arrives when it's retroactively updated with all the stops along the way.
Could be the case here. Who is the carrier?

>>96380026
Castles of Mad King Ludwig