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Anonymous No.96463215 >>96463228 >>96463229 >>96463238 >>96463268 >>96463452
/40kg/ - warhammer 40k general
Inquisitor edition

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>Previous Thread:
>>96462518

Thread question:
What are your thoughts and or feelings on the warhammer 40k fandom outside of this website?
Anonymous No.96463224
This thread will be filled with video recordings of fear, terror, horror and atrocity as anons across the world take up arms and shoot up their local 10th edition events and tournaments. GW will be forced to make the game more sovlful as a result.
Anonymous No.96463225 >>96463586
should I field 20x necron warriors and a rez orb overlord?
or
the deciever?

I already have 1 unit of 20x warriors and an overlord with rez orb (and 2 monoliths)
Anonymous No.96463228
>>96463215 (OP)
>What are your thoughts and or feelings on the warhammer 40k fandom outside of this website?
In general, the fanbase is filled with misconceptions and fanon more like folklore.
Anonymous No.96463229
>>96463215 (OP)
>TQ
It's both good and bad.
It's definetly much better than this place, but at the same time it is also more cringy and also more retarded.
Like I genuinely don't like it when I see people talking about 40k who clearly don't understand it and don't even know surface level fluff. But I recognize that's just my autism being triggered so I've learned to ignore it.
Anonymous No.96463238
>>96463215 (OP)
>tq
no idea, 4chan is the only social media which I use
Anonymous No.96463239 >>96463243 >>96463246 >>96463247 >>96463255 >>96463279
What the fuck is "T-Sports" and why am I seeing the word around the place a lot now.
Anonymous No.96463243 >>96463280 >>96464253
>>96463239
It's a shitpost.
Ignore it.
Anonymous No.96463246 >>96463276
>>96463239
An adequate description of what 40k has become
Anonymous No.96463247 >>96463276
>>96463239
Think e sports but for tabletop games.
It also means that pickup is gonna get a lot more waacfag than usual.
Anonymous No.96463255
>>96463239
Trans sports.
Anonymous No.96463266 >>96463273 >>96463282
Is it possible to make an Ancient look good or is it just relegated to being "guy w/ banner" and no one expects more of them than that?
I grabbed a primaris intercessor body and gave a him a banner but it just feels boring even for primaris.
Anonymous No.96463268
>>96463215 (OP)
>What are your thoughts and or feelings on the warhammer 40k fandom outside of this website?
I dont even think about it to be honest, between you lads and IRL mates I get all the 40k talk I need
Anonymous No.96463273 >>96463290
>>96463266
make the banner cool dummy
Anonymous No.96463276
>>96463246
>>96463247
You know we have a word for that already.

Tournament.

It's called tournament play.
Anonymous No.96463279 >>96464253
>>96463239
You're the shitposter asking so you can shitpost more
Anonymous No.96463280 >>96463285 >>96463289 >>96463291 >>96463293 >>96463309
>>96463243
I want my hobby to improve, damn it. I want the days of 40k being a WARGAME back, focused on narrative experiences. When the tabletop reflected the narrative (with the exception of marines being weaker than they're depicted in BL slop). When the most exciting thing to discuss was the latest Imperial Armour volumes fluff, not some dumbass metawatch! COMPFAGS RUINED THIS HOBBY, AND THEY MUST BE BELITTLED AT EVERY AVAILABLE OPPORTUNITY. The bullshit started in 5th, and it has steadily gotten worse until now the game is a bunch of l-shapee ruins and squatting on pie plate objectives with every model being an infantry model ruleswise, even tanks. Compfags did this. They deserve to be killed.
Anonymous No.96463282 >>96463290
>>96463266
Banners are the default thing, but it can be anything, you could have a huge torch, a relic being held up, trophies made from fallen monsters, etc.

To be fair the primaris ancient is just an intercessor with a banner and like laurels on his leg. It's not great.
Anonymous No.96463285 >>96463295
>>96463280
Calm down its just a game
Anonymous No.96463288
>>96460254
>Bottom left of your pic is the loosest, shittiest armbinder attempt I've ever seen.
gropey is that you?
Anonymous No.96463289 >>96463304 >>96463309
>>96463280
Even fucking NARRATIVE PLAY, FUCKING NARRARIVE PLAY, is reduced to the same shit as competitive play. It's played the exact same way, except that your opponents aren't (usually) waacfags and an rpg-lite system is tacked on while you USE THE SAME FUCKING MISSIONS AND CORE GAMEPLAY DESIGNED AROUND COMPETITIVE PLAY, L-SHAPED RUINS AND SQUATTING ON PIE PLATES. FUCK.

IT'S ALL FUCKED UP. SOMEONE NEEDS TO BARGE INTO WARHAMMER WORLD, FORCE THEIR WAY TO THE RULES DESIGN DEPARTMENT, KILL EVERYONE INSIDE AND START FROM SCRATCH.
Anonymous No.96463290
>>96463273
I did get a cool banner modeled by some guy named red warden, it looks cool and will look better painted for sure.
>>96463282
>To be fair the primaris ancient is just an intercessor with a banner and like laurels on his leg.
Makes me glad i didn't spend the money to buy the official model.
Maybe I'll try to paint campaign marks or something.
Anonymous No.96463291 >>96463324
>>96463280
>reflected the narrative (with the exception of marines being weaker than they're depicted in BL slop)
It's the BLslop that exalts marines above their weight class through larger-than-life characters.
A marine sarge can very feasibly and even easily job to a nob/ogryn/immortal/genestealer/herald of khorne/etc.
Anonymous No.96463293 >>96463297 >>96463300 >>96463304 >>96463369
>>96463280
If people are not intersted in narrative play, why would you want them to play it?

This shit is a gift in disguise, people are showing you how little they care about the same things as you. Good. They filtered themselves for you.

Find people who have the same values as you and stick to them.
You cannot make people care.

The only real complaint is about the miniatures, and even then 3rd party is slowly getting better and better.
Anonymous No.96463295 >>96463302
>>96463285
Not the anon but this mentality doesn’t make sense.
>just stop caring about what you care about and let it go to the dirt
Why not instead encourage people to not resemble the rot they complain about?
Anonymous No.96463297 >>96463308 >>96463309
>>96463293
I'm going to kill you.
Anonymous No.96463300 >>96463308
>>96463293
>You cannot make people care.
You absolutely can, but it takes time
Anonymous No.96463302 >>96463306
>>96463295
Not what I meant. I also want the game to get better but wishing death on people over a game is a little excessive.
Anonymous No.96463304 >>96463309 >>96463312
>>96463293
See >>96463289. Modern narrative play is tainted. And even narrative minded players won't dare touch an edition that isn't 10th . It's all FUCKED. The ONLY solution is to KILL THE FUCKING COMPFAGS POISONING THIS HOBBY.
Anonymous No.96463306
>>96463302
I reread my post and that guy’s posts and yeah I think you’re right he is being very extreme and I don’t really like it.
Anonymous No.96463308
>>96463297
I don't give a dimmadamn.
>>96463300
People can pretend to care, or follow you when they think you're the winning party, but they won't care.

Very few people actually care, you can introduce them to think but truth is they always cared, they simply weren't aware of the specific things you're showing them.
Anonymous No.96463309
>>96463280
>>96463289
>>96463297
>>96463304
I wonder how the FBI agent reading this is feeling right now.
Anonymous No.96463312 >>96463334
>>96463304
Just get friends/likeminded people and make your own rules, even if they're just mostly an old edition, doesn't matter as long as these are the rules that you guys enjoy.
Anonymous No.96463317 >>96463322 >>96463323
Worthless TQ. I have better one: What your favorite 40k art in the past 12 month
Anonymous No.96463322
>>96463317
I'm not sure there's an artwork I liked in the past 12 years, brother.
Anonymous No.96463323 >>96463408
>>96463317
Had to think of something sorry.
What really makes a good TQ anyways?
Anonymous No.96463324 >>96463364
>>96463291
False.
If you don't codexes or novels, then shut your bitch mouth.
It's codex lore that has marines bunching way above their weight class. In BL content, marines are much easily killed. Contrast marine vs GSC in the codexes vs the novel featuring marines vs GSC where a marine leader gets killed unceremoniously by a sniper shot.
Anonymous No.96463329 >>96463335 >>96463342
>guy comes into LGS
>wants to buy a jump pack captain for his blood angels, for a tournament at the end of the month
>"oh I would buy a BA captain model, but he doesnt have a jump pack"
>suggest he just gets a jump pack off of ebay or a bitz site
>"it's fine, i'll just check GW across town to see if they have a jump pack captain as there isn't one here"
Anonymous No.96463330 >>96463337 >>96463365 >>96463409 >>96463442 >>96463466 >>96463824 >>96463918 >>96463931 >>96464832 >>96465306
Please post models
Anonymous No.96463334 >>96463351
>>96463312
No. That's for cowards. The system is broken. The only solution is to fix it, by force. A takeover. Then meld together the rules design of Andy Chambers and the creative direction of Alan Bligh. If this world doesn't want to see things your way, force them to. They won't know what they truly desire until you shove it down their greasy fucking throats.
Anonymous No.96463335 >>96463344 >>96463588
>>96463329
>Dude wants X
>Get Y, it's right next to X
>No it's okay, I'll try and find X
>FUCKING BITCH /40kg/ WILL HEAR ABOUT THIS
Anonymous No.96463337
>>96463330
cool dragon
Anonymous No.96463342
>>96463329
some people want the specific thing they're describing, not anything else that also fits that description.
Anonymous No.96463344 >>96463363 >>96463370
>>96463335
>buy models with specific loadouts instead of kitbashing and /yourdudes/
Anonymous No.96463351
>>96463334
People accept this shit, let them have this shit.
If nobody sells gold I'll find my own gold.

The world doesn't need me, I don't need the world.
Anonymous No.96463354 >>96463390
Being a genestealer cultist sucks. If I were iseakied into 40k, middle of recruitment into a human army. I would almost certainly die. However, with the Imperium and Tau, decades of miraculous survival would grant me renown, and eventually, I would retire. Miraculous survival with Chaos could see me gain immeasurable personal power and near immortality for great victory. What awaits a gene-stealer who not just survives but excels, Tyranids would discard the greatest human tactician and single combatant, you could kill all the Custodese personally and you wouldn't even get a thank you.
Anonymous No.96463359 >>96463381
primaris marine fans are the slave caste of GW
Anonymous No.96463363
>>96463344
He didn't want what you offered, deal with it.

What's up with people like you? People ask for a thing, you suggest something else and then you get pissy about people not wanting it, I'm puzzled, man.

>I'd like to get a car
>Get a scooter, it's cheaper
>No thanks
>I'D HAVE GOTTEN A SCOOTER, WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?????
Anonymous No.96463364 >>96463397
>>96463324
>It's codex lore that has marines bunching way above their weight class.
Every codex fluff is like that.
A termie getting oneshot by a genestealer on a good ambush is a 40k gold standard since Space Hulk.
>In BL content, marines are much easily killed
Definitely not on the average for a BL novel.
Anonymous No.96463365
>>96463330
I like Terminators, these guys did good in their first game
Anonymous No.96463369
>>96463293
/fitlit/ was too good for this world and I miss it every day
Anonymous No.96463370
>>96463344
I love kitbashing but sometimes you just want the base model because you like it. Besides, if you're doing a founding chapter they'll never be /yourdudes/ anyways
Anonymous No.96463381 >>96463392 >>96463403
>>96463359
nostalgia is fine but objectively primaris models look way better than the old dwarf marines
Anonymous No.96463390 >>96463423
>>96463354
>Being a genestealer cultist sucks
It really doesn't suck that much. Your soul is at least secure from the Warp assuming Tyranids arrive, since its gonna get just smothered by the Shadow into nothingness which is a win compared to being a prey item for daemon-forms like the rest of imperial citizens.
>Tyranids would discard the greatest human tactician and single combatant, you could kill all the Custodese personally and you wouldn't even get a thank you
Not quite
>"confirmation has been cross-referenced from six separate battle fronts in the Taurensi System. There can be little doubt as to the truth of this strange phenomenon. Genestealer Cult forces continue to operate, unmolested, alongside extant Tyranid swarms, and have even been seen taking to the void alongside their bio-ships in bulk freighters and stolen frigates. Why do the xenos not simply devour their benighted worshippers as one would expect? Are they being tolerated, even encouraged as apostles? Exploited as just another weapon in the Hive Mind's arsenal? Or are they perhaps symbiotes, kept around until such time as their ability to provide nourishment outweights their utility as combat assets?"
Nid+GSC cooperation has become even more common since this info, too.
>Miraculous survival with Chaos could see me gain immeasurable personal power and near immortality for great victory
I mean, I think you're sugarcoating this: ascending to Daemonhood is literally growing your own cancerous soul-clone that slowly replaces and shoves you out of your body.
At least that is the sole account of what we have in regards to becoming a DP, even if its from BL.
Anonymous No.96463392
>>96463381
Only because of better proportions. Not much else. HH already proved that all marines needed was better proportions.
Anonymous No.96463396 >>96463409 >>96463456 >>96464174 >>96464183
Good morning, gentlemen.
What're we working on today? I got this guy finished up last night.
Post models
Anonymous No.96463397 >>96463420
>>96463364
>A termie getting oneshot by a genestealer on a good ambush is a 40k gold standard since Space Hulk.
That's one off lines in a codex to hype a unit or whatever.
In narrative stories in codexes or campaign books, marines kill a fuckton of troops and monsters. The 5th ed era codexes. The Pariah Nexus lore. etc.

>Definitely not on the average for a BL novel.
On average. Novels have Marines getting utterly fucked sideways. War of Secrets, for example. The Silent King novel is another.

You need to do more reading.
Anonymous No.96463403
>>96463381
>my tastes are objective
Anonymous No.96463406 >>96463421
Should I build my DE boats with Dark Lances or Disintegrators?
Anonymous No.96463408
>>96463323
I'd suggest discussing about /yourdudes/, kitbash or campaigns. It's better than digging through reddit or discord's safespace
Anonymous No.96463409 >>96463435
>>96463396
I am a fool, a buffoon even. I didn't realize there was already a post models post >>96463330

Looking good demonanon. Does that model have 40k rules? I know most demons are also AOS stuff but I've never seen this one.
Anonymous No.96463420 >>96463425 >>96463431
>>96463397
>That's one off lines in a codex to hype a unit or whatever.
No its literally the cover and core gameplay loop of the game in question. Like, basically the first 40k game even
>In narrative stories in codexes
In narrative stories within marine codices *
>or campaign books
I implore you to give an actual campaign book like Anphelion Project a try
Marines aren't demigods anon, just highly advanced soldiers needed to meet measure of other factions which have their own marine-equivalents. That's the sole reason why MEQ is even a term
Anonymous No.96463421
>>96463406
Use which ever looks cooler.
Nobody can tell xeno guns apart from each other anyway.
Anonymous No.96463423 >>96463441
>>96463390
>Your soul is at least secure from the Warp assuming Tyranids arrive, since its gonna get just smothered by the Shadow into nothingness which is a win compared to being a prey item for daemon-forms like the rest of imperial citizens.
The Shadow in the Warp doesn't stop souls from entering the Warp.
For example, Aeldari souls of those killed on Duriel by the Tyranids were devoured by Slaanesh, who brushed the Hivemind aside to eat them.
Also, Hive Fleet Kraken ships have fragments of Aeldari souls clinging to them, evidence of their murder of Aeldari lives
>Nid+GSC cooperation has become even more common since this info, too.
You ignored the part of the text that says that speculates the Tyranids don't attack the GSC ships because of damage from Warpstorm affecting the Tyranids. Or how the Tyranids view these GSC following them as extra food to use whenever they are in a pinch.
>I mean, I think you're sugarcoating this: ascending to Daemonhood is literally growing your own cancerous soul-clone that slowly replaces and shoves you out of your body.
Beyond daemonhood, a powerful Chaos servant to extend his life indefinitely. sorcerers can reverse the aging process or possess new bodies.
Anonymous No.96463425 >>96463558
>>96463420
This trailer was shitty.
Anonymous No.96463431 >>96463446
>>96463420
>No its literally the cover and core gameplay loop of the game in question. Like, basically the first 40k game even
Gameplay =/= lore
Lore says that Eldrad can break titans with his mind. Gameplay, he is a wuss.
>In narrative stories within marine codices *
And outside them in campaign books. The Pariah Nexus is not a marine codex. Read how the Black Templars tore a straight line through Necron legions and ships straight to the center of the Nexus.
>I implore you to give an actual campaign book like Anphelion Project a try
We are discussing BL vs GW. FW needs not apply.
The point is that GW studio hypes Marines more than BL does. In BL droplike flies.
Anonymous No.96463435 >>96463439
>>96463409
It's a counts-as for this thing. The kit is so unbelievably shit that I just made my own out of an AoS kit that costs twice as much lmao
Same base and similar silhouette so it's a good fit
Anonymous No.96463439 >>96463455
>>96463435
Is it a throne? A chariot? A motorbike?
Anonymous No.96463441 >>96463471
>>96463423
>You ignored the part of the text that says that speculates the Tyranids don't attack the GSC ships because of damage from Warpstorm affecting the Tyranids.
Huh? If you mean picrelated - which is what I quoted - I haven't seen a continuation of it, so please do post it.
>The Shadow in the Warp doesn't stop souls from entering the Warp.
Kronos leeching powers like Soul Hunger and the such are merely deeper levels of Shadow, so it does at X or Y concentration and discretion of the groupthink, either passively but far more likely actively. Either way having capacity to do so.
Anonymous No.96463442 >>96463486
>>96463330
Nothing new to post but a while back a couple anons were asking me about my desert bases so I put together a quick tutorial if anyones interested
Anonymous No.96463445 >>96463454
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/8wocrwoc/aethon-shaan-master-of-shadows/
Has any character ever been cucked this disgracefully before? Usually they at least let them die in a blaze of glory or something.
Anonymous No.96463446
>>96463431
>GW studio hypes Marines more than BL does. In BL droplike flies.
They drop like flies at the discretion of the writer either way, in no way their lore status is more special than other faction that has a codex.
Anonymous No.96463452 >>96463478
>>96463215 (OP)
>5 40kg threads up atm
Anonymous No.96463454 >>96463459
>>96463445
What are you talking about?
Anonymous No.96463455
>>96463439
it's a phoned in second option for the cannon chariot

it wishes it was a motorbike
Anonymous No.96463456 >>96463461 >>96463477
>>96463396
I got a box of Saturnine dreads to use as Obliterators, still building them. I'll admit the models look better in person than in art and promo-shots.
Anonymous No.96463459 >>96463464
>>96463454
Shrike's replacement obviously, what the fuck do you think?
Anonymous No.96463461 >>96463468 >>96463477
>>96463456
>dreads
*Terminators, if it wasn't obvious.
Bit tired.
Anonymous No.96463464 >>96463465 >>96463525
>>96463459
How was he "cucked"?
Anonymous No.96463465 >>96463470
>>96463464
If you have to ask you're hopeless.
Anonymous No.96463466 >>96463484 >>96463485
>>96463330
I need to remove the mould line on his gun that I didnt even notice until I washed it but I'm really happy with this otherwise
Anonymous No.96463468 >>96463472 >>96463483 >>96463526
>>96463461
Dark Millenium... Never forgor
Anonymous No.96463470 >>96463480
>>96463465
So you're just baiting?
Anonymous No.96463471 >>96463497
>>96463441
It's mentioned in the GSC and Tyranid codexes.
>Kronos leeching powers like Soul Hunger
That's not universal. Some Tyranids eat souls, but the majority of the time, souls of people dying to nids go into the Warp like everything else.
Anonymous No.96463472 >>96463515
>>96463468
>e3 expo
I shant forget you
Anonymous No.96463477 >>96463491
>>96463456
>>96463461
The hip bones still look horrible and don't make sense unless you picture them as mini-terminators with nuggets inside instead of actual suits of armor.
Like, only marines with full on four cybernetic limbs can wear those by idk, detaching the limbs modular-style and eing shoved inside.
Thats the only way I can make sense of those ball jointed hips.
Anonymous No.96463478
>>96463452
One of them is a troll thread wearing /40kg/ in the subject. So ackshully it is four as that troll thread doesn’t count.
Anonymous No.96463480 >>96463496 >>96463498
>>96463470
I'm here for a conversation you're not providing and apparently completely unqualified for.
Are you some kind of GW plant to lash out at any kind of negativity?
Anonymous No.96463483 >>96463515
>>96463468
>40k designed by the guy who did Darksiders
Would have been interesting, at least.
Anonymous No.96463484 >>96463576
>>96463466
He looks very nice, anon
Anonymous No.96463485 >>96463576
>>96463466
sweet tit shields
Anonymous No.96463486 >>96463533 >>96463579 >>96464168
>>96463442
why do you pretend to be so many people?
Anonymous No.96463491 >>96463502
>>96463477
40k problem as old as time
Anonymous No.96463496 >>96463501
>>96463480
>this dude got cucked lol
>Who?
>Well that RG dude DUH
>What do you mean by cucked?
>Pff, if you gotta ask, you're stupid
Yeah great conversations you're trying to have here.
My bad for asking you what you meant and trying to engage with you, won't happen again.
Anonymous No.96463497 >>96463535
>>96463471
>It's mentioned in the GSC and Tyranid codexes.
... you're gonna post the bit about the Slaanesh or not? I am curious. Because the thing I cropped is the end of it, or at least what I could find.
>but the majority of the time, souls of people dying to nids go into the Warp like everything else.
I mean yeah we're entering the territory of metaphyiscal navelgazing but I really doubt that is much possible for an unshielded HUMAN soul to escape intact because Shadow already can be choking enough to fuck up people and cause psykers to self-combust, even the tech (and Wraithbone if Iyanna's novels anything to go by) is affected. Eldar souls might have an advantage due to being stronger/brighter and more concentrated but a regular human? And especially a hybrid (which logically would have even less of a tangible soul, most of it invested in Broodmind)? Don't think they'd cut it.
Anonymous No.96463498
>>96463480
>I'm here for a conversation you're not providing and apparently
You're here for a retarded conversation to waste time because you have nothing else to do.
Anonymous No.96463501 >>96463588
>>96463496
>hey let's talk about X
>uh what is X I don't know what it is
So fuck off, no one asked you.
Anonymous No.96463502
>>96463491
I mean this one at least looks plausibly deniable with "he's just BIIIIG due to genes/warpjuice". The hips on Saturnines are just insane.
Anonymous No.96463514
>kitbash stuff is turning up on friday

Be prepared to see something silly get posted in the next few days
Anonymous No.96463515
>>96463472
I forgot e3 used to be a thing. Oh god. It did go from a tech expo to a glorified commercial break, but it's still sad.

>>96463483
It looked nice, even if clearly lacking gameplay. Many such cases.
Anonymous No.96463522
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
Anonymous No.96463525 >>96463541
>>96463464
I read the article and have no idea how he was "cucked"... but he posted an image of Kayvaan Shrike so he must be taking about how he gave up his position as Chapter Master
Anonymous No.96463526 >>96463530 >>96463566
>>96463468
Looks cartoony and not realistic enough
Anonymous No.96463530
>>96463526
Perfect for Space Marines.
Anonymous No.96463533 >>96463537
>>96463486
I seriously doubt that dude is the same guy as the tsons poster
Anonymous No.96463535 >>96463553 >>96464096
>>96463497
Chapter 16 from Valedor
>The skein resounded to the triumphant laughter of She Who Thirsts. She was waiting for him now. Her presence pushed aside the limitless mind of the voidspawn. The horrors of the flesh had been displaced by that of the spirit.
>He would die the true death, and know unending torment.
-------
>The same could not be said for the aftermath. His waystone glowed, then shattered. He was pulled from this world. Before Slaanesh dragged him to her embrace, he saw the skein as he never had before, free of form’s material trammels. It stretched away in all directions, a multiplicity of universes and futures. There, ahead of him, he saw the future of his race.
>Taec Silvereye’s soul sparkled with joy before She Who Thirsts pulled him into her thrall.

>that is much possible for an unshielded HUMAN soul to escape intact because Shadow
Pylons don't stop souls from entering the Warp and they completely shut off the Warp from real space.
Anonymous No.96463537 >>96463548
>>96463533
it's a shitpost, don't reply
Anonymous No.96463541 >>96463546
>>96463525
I thought it might have been Shrike, but no, he meant his replacement.
Doesn't matter really.
Anonymous No.96463545 >>96463549 >>96463551 >>96463561 >>96463572 >>96463621
>2004
>dawn of war releases
>is an arcade-y, more artificially game-y game compared to mainline tabletop 40k
>2025
>dawn of war: Definitive Edition releases
>still artificially game-y but somehow less game-y and artificial feeling than mainline tabletop 40k

How the fuck did we get to this point?
Anonymous No.96463546 >>96463572
>>96463541
I clearly meant Shrike, tardo.
Anonymous No.96463548
>>96463537
Fair enough, cant believe i fell for it
Anonymous No.96463549 >>96463612
>>96463545
You are just old nigga. Stop talking shit.
Anonymous No.96463551 >>96463612
>>96463545
People like playing games
Anonymous No.96463552 >>96463582 >>96463799
>get an urge to make an unaligned greater daemon/minor chaos god like vashtorr, raptor god or malal for the kitbash collage
>have no daemon bitz left
Fuck. Guess I'll have to buy a GUO or some other big lad to get bitz.
Anonymous No.96463553
>>96463535
Ohh its BLslop and not codices, gotcha. I mean I don't mean that disparagingly towards you in particular, but I shall take the presented info with a grain of salt because I know that if actual codex writers struggle to make Warp metaphysics consistent then I can trust BL authors even less.
>Pylons don't stop souls from entering the Warp and they completely shut off the Warp from real space.
Again, doesn't make a lick of sense because of how they interact with the souls that haven't left bodies yet.
Anonymous No.96463558 >>96463567
>>96463425
Why, because it featured your precious marines dying? Because it's actually grim and dark for once? Fuck you, tourist scum. If you want noblebright heroshit, go play fucking age of sigmar
Anonymous No.96463561 >>96463580
>>96463545
So were pretending DoW1 is bad now? Alright.
Anonymous No.96463566
>>96463526
It was meant to compete with WoW.

I'm gonna be honest I don't get why someone wants realistic graphics when the game isn't even gonna attempt to be realistic.

I think it's ridiculous when a game has 4k hair physics and visibly expanding skin pores when the gameplay is the same basic shit I've seen a thousand times.
But I get it, spectacle sells; you don't need to be good or try in order to see fancy graphics.

TL;DR: cartoony visuals are good on a cartoony game.
Anonymous No.96463567
>>96463558
>passive aggressive, incoherent babble
Took you half an hour to come up with that because nobody else is biting your shit bait?
Go away.
Anonymous No.96463572 >>96463594 >>96463606
>>96463545
Lowering the bar of entry, appealing to non-nerd/geek crowd.


>>96463546
>Shrike's replacement obviously, what the fuck do you think?
>I clearly meant Shrike
Anonymous No.96463576
>>96463484
>>96463485
Thanks anons
Anonymous No.96463579
>>96463486
schizo
Anonymous No.96463580 >>96463599
>>96463561
When the fuck did I say that? Dawn of War is quite good, it's just that I expect an RTS vidya game to be more streamlined and game-y than the mainline tabletop game it's based on, anon. I expect that to play more like a wargame and less like a video game. 20 years ago, the idea was that you played tabletop games for granularity and didn't lovingly assemble and paint an army and terrain just to play a slower version of a streamlined video game.
Anonymous No.96463582
>>96463552
the daemon prince has some neat bits
Anonymous No.96463586
>>96463225
Go with Golden Cheeks. He's the weakest of the C'tan, so the poor guy never gets any play.
Anonymous No.96463588 >>96463606
>>96463335
>>96463501
How many posts like these do you make in an average day
?
Anonymous No.96463593 >>96463622 >>96464498
is the new raven guard detachment going to require ethan shane? the salamanders one needs their character but he comes in the combat patrol box not an overpriced separate purchase.
Anonymous No.96463594 >>96463601
>>96463572
I'm going to assume he meant "the replacement of Shrike" and worded it badly
Anonymous No.96463599
>>96463580
This
>Anon demonstrates the level of illiteracy of the thread by accident.
Godspeed, anon.

>How did 40k get simpler than DoW1 in 20 years?
>u say DoW1 bad!?
Anonymous No.96463601 >>96463603
>>96463594
I'm not sure I want to understand what he was on about man, I don't think it's worth the hassle.
Anonymous No.96463603 >>96463619
>>96463601
That's fair, have a nice day
Anonymous No.96463606 >>96463619
>>96463572
As in him being replaced, his replacement, not to be confused with his replacement, whatshisface. All this sperging and still no actual on topic discussion. If you have nothing to say, don't say anything.
>>96463588
One apparently.
Anonymous No.96463607 >>96463618
over the weekend I bought a Warhammer starter set that turned out to be missing the Captain and Tyranid Prime sprue, and in it's place had a second Psycophage.

I emailed GW customer support about it on Sunday, they say they respond with in three business days, it's is now 1:30 PM Wednesday in Britain. Still nothing
Anonymous No.96463612 >>96463625 >>96463631
>>96463549
Maybe. But at least we didn't run into pic related back in the day.

>>96463551
Yes, I like playing warGAMES, anon, I just personally feel that a game that requires the time investment 40k has just to start playing at all (as it is a tabletop miniatures game) should have more granularity than an RTS video game designed to be streamlined for the mass market of PC gamers.
Anonymous No.96463618 >>96463677
>>96463607
3 days haven't passed
Anonymous No.96463619 >>96463626
>>96463603
Cheers, you too anon.

>>96463606
>his replacement
He stepped down. He didn't like the job. You cretin.
Anonymous No.96463621 >>96463624
>>96463545
Everything you just said is gibberish.
Anonymous No.96463622 >>96463667
>>96463593
you can skip your daily big mac for the week and buy the new character, you fat bitch
Anonymous No.96463624 >>96463639
>>96463621
>I can't read
Anonymous No.96463625 >>96463706
>>96463612
Man that shit is fuckin aids, im guessing that parking lot meme was a tourney thing that spilled over into casual play
Anonymous No.96463626 >>96463637 >>96463641 >>96463652
>>96463619
>He stepped down.
Yeah that's cuckshit in 40k. Name one other character done that dirty.
All that because people mocked Shrike's model.
Anonymous No.96463631
>>96463612
People get really mad at anyone who preferred older 40k for mechanical reasons here.
Anonymous No.96463636 >>96463666 >>96463684 >>96463693 >>96463696 >>96463713 >>96463724 >>96463894 >>96464595
Painted my first nid, I have to complete my 1000pts list and find a name for the hive fleet
Anonymous No.96463637 >>96463642
>>96463626
This is the interesting on-topic conversation you had in mind?
Anonymous No.96463639
>>96463624
Sorry you have dyslexia.
Anonymous No.96463641 >>96463657
>>96463626
>Name one other character done that dirty.
Prince Yriel
Anonymous No.96463642 >>96463653 >>96463655
>>96463637
Name a single one, bud!
Anonymous No.96463650 >>96463721 >>96464037
Anonymous No.96463652
>>96463626
Didn't he only get the job because the retard prior to him got ambushed by the Tau?
Anonymous No.96463653 >>96463693
>>96463642
Kaldor Draigo
Anonymous No.96463655
>>96463642
Name one character that actually gets "cucked". Last (you).
Anonymous No.96463657 >>96463671 >>96463678
>>96463641
He wasn't replaced though and is a badass hero, though yes the whole Ynnari thing is pretty dreadful.
Eldar getting relentlessly bullied by GW is par for the course.
Anonymous No.96463666 >>96463688
>>96463636
INCREDIBLY soulful scheme anon
your red/pink is awesome
Anonymous No.96463667
>>96463622
Calm down, James.
Anonymous No.96463671
>>96463657
They character assassinated him and erased his development in 6th ed. A total reverse of his story
Anonymous No.96463677
>>96463618
yeah we still have three and a half hours left. That's why I'm not upset.

Yet.
Anonymous No.96463678
>>96463657
They character assassinated him and erased his development in 6th ed. A total reverse of his story
He stepped away from his role as admiral of Iyanden to be a corsair again
Anonymous No.96463684
>>96463636
That looks sick
Anonymous No.96463688
>>96463666
thanks satan. It's actually flashier IRL, I'll post the finished unit this week-end
Anonymous No.96463693 >>96463723 >>96463840
>>96463636
>Hive Fleet Watermelon

It's a good scheme. Pick a more serious sounding name.

>>96463653
Matt Ward is a filthy wretch, an ex MESG writer that butchered codex after codex from Daemons in 7th to GK in 5th. His sins will never be forgiven
Anonymous No.96463696 >>96463840
>>96463636
The scientific name for the most famous type of mantis shrimp, generally sporting bright oranges blues and greens, is Odontodactylus ("tooth finger") scyllarus, taking its name from the mythological greek monster scylla, who preyed on ships that tried to get around another sea monster which formed a great vortex in on strait of the mediterranean sea.
Anonymous No.96463706 >>96463720 >>96463730 >>96463731
>>96463625
It's a common misconception that tournament play, casual play, and narrative play are segregated and don't affect one another. The reality is that tournament play informs casual play, which then informs narrative play.

Everything wrong with 40k can be traced back to the compfags.

>compfags complain about wanting to have all rules options be in the kit
>gw gets rid of the bitz store in the 2000s and then slowly gets rid of all the unit options that weren't included in the kit in subsequent editions
>compfags whine and complain about AT weapons designed to one-shot tanks killing their tanks within 100m
>gw introduces hull points
>compfags complain about their then-OP superheavies not being fieldable outside of apocalypse
>gw releases escalation and then eventually makes an entire faction of superheavies (knights)
>compfags then complain about superheavies being OP as shit outside of apocalypse (who could have predicted)
>8th edition makes vehicles into big infantry models, changes how toughness and strength work so that lasguns can hurt T10 models
>marine compfags complain about weapon loadouts not being streamlined and same-y to be "optimized"
>GW introduces the primaris line of space marines featuring units with the same loadouts, no mixed weapon types
>compfags complain about wargear adding too much unpredictability to play
>GW removes wargear costs in 10th so every unit can now be assumed to be using the strongest wargear options for tourney math hammer purposes
>compfags complain about being shot off the table if they don't get first turn in 8th and 9th (this one is valid desu) but want the game to remain just as lethal
>gw normalizes making the entire board consist of L-shaped LOS blocking terrain to prevent this, doesn't lower the lethality

Lately compfags have started advocating transparent terrain, so GW will probably find a way to normalize that within the ruleset itself in the future, affecting casual play and narrative play. Pic related
Anonymous No.96463713 >>96463840
>>96463636
hive fleet salmon
Anonymous No.96463716 >>96463720 >>96463733 >>96463736 >>96463739 >>96463750 >>96463950
It's not an uncontroversial opinion
Anonymous No.96463718 >>96463736
>this faggot is still spamming the same 5 images of tourneyfags
>Except now he's concern trolling rather than ironic shitposting
Anonymous No.96463720 >>96463736
>>96463706
>>96463716
fuck off already
Anonymous No.96463721
>>96463650
>AM
>Astra Militarum
>Adeptus Mechanicus
Silly newfag. It's IG (Imperial Guard) and AdMech respectively.
Anonymous No.96463723
>>96463693
LotR SBG is a far better ruleset/game than 40k and the warddexes had great rules that were only a "problem" because other rules writers were shit.
Anonymous No.96463724
>>96463636
looking good champ
Anonymous No.96463726 >>96463738 >>96463739 >>96464880 >>96468396
>he rocks up to the gaming table trying to play build option pink as build option green

I don't think so, bozo.
Anonymous No.96463730
>>96463706
At least half of these can be explained by trying to sell more kits
Super heavies in standard game? Sell kits
Knight faction? Sell kits.
Only options in the kit? Sell kits.
Remove options/streamline? Make cheaper kits, sell more kits.
Primaris? Sell more kits.
Remove wargear/cost? Less thinking, more kit buying.

The whole comp/shrimpification of 40k is a product of this: Selling. More. Kits.

If you say something true followed by something false, people don't care that you were right on half.
Anonymous No.96463731 >>96463785
>>96463706
The first point is because of Chapterhouse.
Chapterhouse argued that they can infringe on the IP and sell models if the models don't come with that option and so to not have 40k become open domain they sent everything to legends and made it a rule that boxes had to contain all the options and units without dedicated models were removed
Anonymous No.96463733 >>96463734
>>96463716
>painting models in the same category as the 'novels'

I know what you are.
Anonymous No.96463734
>>96463733
Yeah, painting should be in the brown section of the meme.
Anonymous No.96463735 >>96463773 >>96463981
I like painting models I just hate the drying time.
Anonymous No.96463736 >>96463752 >>96463756
>>96463720
I am not >>96463716.

>>96463718
>he said something I don't like, he must be trolling!

I wish I was trolling. I wish I was happy with the state of this hobby. But I'm not. And the only thing I can do now is spread awareness of my plight, in the hopes that perhaps one day the hobby will heal, and things will get better.

Is it wrong to be passionate about what one loves?
Anonymous No.96463738
>>96463726
Funny enough you can build the first one with the scope of the third one
Anonymous No.96463739
>>96463716
Based, except lore/novels. Replace those with "fluff" and put them along the dirt and it's perfect.

>>96463726
If I ever get some hellblaster I'm putting the pink scope on the blue assembly.
Anonymous No.96463750 >>96463776
>>96463716
this pig is probably a TTS player
Anonymous No.96463752 >>96463760
>>96463736
Nigger we've seen these images used by you to shitpost ironically and bring down board quality
Anonymous No.96463756 >>96463793
>>96463736
You have never participated in the hobby in the first place you retarded, low effort shitposter. Fuck off. Don't bother replying, you're not getting another (You) from me
Anonymous No.96463760 >>96463778 >>96463788 >>96463795
>>96463752
I am not the same person who made the "table sports" thread.
Anonymous No.96463773 >>96463801
>>96463735
Just has a thought are hairdryers a good hobby tool?
Anonymous No.96463776
>>96463750
No way
I would hate the game even more if I wasn't using my minis
Anonymous No.96463778 >>96463788 >>96463795
>>96463760
These threads are filled with autistics who think everyone is one of six people.
Anonymous No.96463780
@96463760
Lol, lmao
Anonymous No.96463785
>>96463731
The Chapterhouse thing was that GW couldn't claim copyright for models they didn't actually make. GW killing bits was a loosely related but still different issue where Kirby (who will face judgement before God for all his evil deeds) hated 3rd party bits sellers and called them "leeches" and would rather provide a worse product than have other people benefit from "their IP".
Anonymous No.96463788 >>96463829
>>96463760
>>96463778
Can we just skip to the part were you ask people to post physique, eventually post your fuckoff ugly gingernigger face, people laugh at you and you move on to a different thread?
Anonymous No.96463793 >>96463804 >>96463902 >>96463930 >>96465446
>>96463756
>you have never participated in this hobby in the first place

Uh huh, sure. Here's my work in progress. Where's yours?
Anonymous No.96463795 >>96463829
>>96463760
>>96463778
Samefags less.
Anonymous No.96463799
>>96463552
Tell me about your minor god anon
Anonymous No.96463801 >>96463994
>>96463773
Not great to use with paint, better to just have a fan nearby to help move the water and evaporate it though i guess a hairdryer running without the heater would function the same.
The heat is good for drying washes and base pastes quickly and I one for those constantly as I can just get it all done in minutes rather than waiting for both to dry naturally and its a base so anything going slightly wrong doesnt matter.
They are also really useful for resin minis and bending into place but that wont work with plastic minis
Anonymous No.96463804 >>96463814
>>96463793
Looks finished to me, good enough for a good old fashioned table sports matchup at your local Warhammer 40,000 10th Edition® tournament! You need to make time for coaching sessions!
Anonymous No.96463814 >>96463828
>>96463804
you need to make time for washing your ass sessions, you stink, pig face!
Anonymous No.96463822 >>96463851 >>96463857 >>96463911
genuinely fucking awful thread apart from the modelposters
Anonymous No.96463824
>>96463330
Progress on the big mek
Anonymous No.96463828 >>96463841
>>96463814
>the compfag lashes out when he is mocked
Anonymous No.96463829
>>96463795
>>96463788
Anonymous No.96463840
>>96463693
>>96463696
>>96463713
I'll go with Hive Fleet Polypus, it's a giant lobster from greek mythology.
Anonymous No.96463841
>>96463828
>doesn't deny he stinks
grim... one might say grim and dark
Anonymous No.96463851
>>96463822
cheer up anon, here's a skittle
Anonymous No.96463857
>>96463822
When is it ever different than that?
Anonymous No.96463863
I know next to nothing about necrons
How exactly does Necron reanimation protocols work in lore?
would it be possible for parts of necrons to be claimed as trophies?
Do Lords and Overlords get revived too?
How much of a necron needs to be destroyed before they can no longer operate?
Anonymous No.96463894 >>96463905
>>96463636
The scheme is punchy in a soulful way but also a little bit ugly in a similar oldhammer vain. And I think its a hood thing that I am feeling a bit conflicted about the candy green claws?
Good job, very clean.
Anonymous No.96463902
>>96463793
What's your face recipe anon?
Anonymous No.96463905 >>96463925
>>96463894
Ghetto ass
Anonymous No.96463911
>>96463822
I'd post something but im just building shit atm
Anonymous No.96463918 >>96463968 >>96464243
>>96463330
The paintjob on them is bad even for this being my first time building and painting minis, but at least my fuckups with a brush sort of work in my favor to make them look dirty. I'll paint over the bases later, I want to see how well I can do textured terrain paints.
Anonymous No.96463925
>>96463905
What?
Anonymous No.96463930
>>96463793
>no timestamp
not yours
Anonymous No.96463931
>>96463330
My archon WIP. Gonna look into seeing if there is room for a second corpse.
Anonymous No.96463950 >>96463965
>>96463716
>porn
>memes
>hype
Anonymous No.96463965 >>96463978 >>96463988 >>96464067
>>96463950
Those are the only 3 I am involved in does that still make me a primary?
Anonymous No.96463968 >>96463990
>>96463918
Looks fine for first models, anon. Some advice I'd give if you're set on contrast paints is to apply a zenithal highlight after priming a darker color. Really helps the model stand out as opposed to just contrasting over straight white.
Anonymous No.96463978
>>96463965
No, gross
Anonymous No.96463981 >>96463994
>>96463735
army painter's warpaints dry way too fast maybe they would work for you
Anonymous No.96463988
>>96463965
models and playing the game makes you primary. don't @ me about your 100 book BL collection.
Anonymous No.96463990 >>96464009 >>96464041
>>96463968
I actually primed black and then drybrushed grey, then white. I probably just grossly misunderstood the best way to apply the drybrushing, you can see the two models that don't have contrast paint yet on them in the back
Anonymous No.96463994
>>96463801
Thank you!
>>96463981
Thank you as well!
Anonymous No.96464009
>>96463990
they look fine for a contrast paint job
Anonymous No.96464033 >>96464052 >>96464056
Reminder that you're in this hobby for the sake of building and painting minis, the game is too shit for you to get into this otherwise.
Anonymous No.96464034
All you need are models
Don't even have to be official
Anonymous No.96464037 >>96464042 >>96464065
>>96463650
Imagine if the Ministorum were a playable faction.
Anonymous No.96464041
>>96463990
Ah, I see. Looks like you just need more practice then. Your goal with the zenithal is to effectively create your recesses and highlights before you apply colors, whereas from what I can see your model looks like mostly highlights after you're done dry brushing. You'll get better at it as you go. I'd try to have your recesses more pronounced next time.
Stole some random picture for reference of what I'm talking about. You should have clear dark spots and light spots for where your light source is hitting the model.
Anonymous No.96464042
>>96464037
I know man.
Anonymous No.96464052
>>96464033
I'm in this hobby to justify my funny ork headcanon and build shit from scratch
Anonymous No.96464056 >>96464074 >>96464202
>>96464033
I play just to hangout with my friends desu
Anonymous No.96464060 >>96464111
Anonymous No.96464065
>>96464037
just be happy we have AdMech. every model playable in multiple factions is like a small miracle considering GW loves to crunch sales numbers for more SM slop
Anonymous No.96464067 >>96464071 >>96464083
>>96463965
If you got into 40k via anything other than miniatures and codexes then you're a secondary.
Anonymous No.96464071
>>96464067
The fact that beating it to Warhammer still does not grant me the position of a primary is insane, its unfair!
Anonymous No.96464074 >>96464156
>>96464056
how does it feel to have friends anon?
Anonymous No.96464083 >>96464089
>>96464067
>this level of butthurt gatekeeping
Primary: owns models, plays the game
Secondary: novels/(video)games/merchandise
Tertiary: memes and /40kg/
Anonymous No.96464089 >>96464115
>>96464083
merchandise is tertiary together with memes and "online communities"
Anonymous No.96464096
>>96463535
>Before Slaanesh dragged him to her embrace, he saw the skein as he never had before, free of form’s material trammels. It stretched away in all directions, a multiplicity of universes and futures. There, ahead of him, he saw the future of his race.
>>Taec Silvereye’s soul sparkled with joy before She Who Thirsts pulled him into her thrall.
That line made me exceptionally sad given what all has happened since then.
Anonymous No.96464111 >>96464124 >>96464127 >>96464129 >>96464130 >>96464152
>>96464060
are there any tau/eldar interactions in the fluff? what do they think of each other?
Anonymous No.96464114
Anonymous No.96464115
>>96464089
I'd give it secondary status simply because you actually need to spend money for this tier
Anonymous No.96464124
>>96464111
Any time a Craftworld accidentally travels into Tau space they're immediately bombarded with frequent spam phone calls asking them to join the Greater Good.
Anonymous No.96464127 >>96464128 >>96464133 >>96464134 >>96464137
>>96464111
who cares what two pathetic side factions think of each other?
Anonymous No.96464128 >>96464171
>>96464127
the person you replied to, retard
Anonymous No.96464129
>>96464111
Yes.
Anonymous No.96464130 >>96464142 >>96464152
>>96464111
xenology implies a group of eldar* engineered the ethereal caste and kickstarted the development of the tau as an interstellar species

we have random artworks of tau fighting eldar with no specific backstory attached, both craftworlders, dark eldar and harlequins

eldrad has a quote where he sees them as young and naive but also as having the potential to grow past them because their philosophy is solid

no other significant interaction


*people assume craftworlders but such a thing is not a given, could be dark eldar, who do enjoy reaping them quite a bit
Anonymous No.96464133
>>96464127
Maybe the person who asked the question
Anonymous No.96464134
>>96464127
Xenosfags have a misplaced sense of importance.
Anonymous No.96464137 >>96464139 >>96464164
>>96464127
The Tau Empire's borders are now brushing against Ultramar.
They are planning to invade it. Let's see you call them names when Maccrage falls.
Anonymous No.96464139 >>96464160
>>96464137
Anon you know the Plague Wars are chronologically next, right? The Tau invasion gets utterly crushed and swept aside by the Death Guard's invadion.
Anonymous No.96464142 >>96464151 >>96464180 >>96464181
>>96464130
Anonymous No.96464150 >>96464269 >>96464290 >>96464325 >>96464354
Gave her some pasties and dropped my submissions at the local GW for a painting competition. Wish me luck anons.
Anonymous No.96464151 >>96464158 >>96464180
>>96464142
Anonymous No.96464152 >>96464159 >>96464163 >>96464165 >>96464181
>>96464111
Yes.

>>96464130
>we have random artworks of tau fighting eldar with no specific backstory attached, both craftworlders, dark eldar and harlequins
Each art piece comes from a codex. Each has a story attached to it. Let me post more stuff.
Anonymous No.96464154 >>96464166
Do you play using winner tops rules, anons?
Anonymous No.96464156
>>96464074
Feels good, you should try it anon
Anonymous No.96464158 >>96464180
>>96464151
Anonymous No.96464159 >>96464165
>>96464152
>Eldar can't even beat Tau
>In their own codex, at that
Lmao
Anonymous No.96464160
>>96464139
No. The Plague Wars already ended and the setting progresses beyond that. Arks of Omen and the Crusade book take place after the Plague Wars.
It's spelled out to you in the Crusade: Pariah Nexus book.
Anonymous No.96464163
>>96464152
>Each has a story attached to it. Let me post more stuff.
I missed those from later codexes, cool.
Anonymous No.96464164
>>96464137
Can't wait for 'two gay retards fighting'.
Anonymous No.96464165 >>96464179
>>96464159
That's the T'au when they were using fossil fuel suits, IIRC. Look up the date of the conflict. That's way before the Damocles Crusade.

>>96464152
More.
Anonymous No.96464166
>>96464154
Whenever someone brings it up, which has only been once. Any opportunity to get my ass raped is an opportunity I relish.
Anonymous No.96464168
>>96463486
I don't paint anywhere near as well as the tsons guy, Are you psychotic
Anonymous No.96464171
>>96464128
been retardMAXXIN, thanks for noticing
Anonymous No.96464174
>>96463396
The Red Legion has won. I kneel.
Anonymous No.96464179 >>96464190 >>96464204
>>96464165
More stuff.
Anonymous No.96464180
>>96464142
>>96464151
>>96464158
Open battlefields? Huh? Where is all the L-shaped terrain?
Anonymous No.96464181 >>96464204
>>96464152
But that's iyanden, this >>96464142 is ulthwe
Anonymous No.96464183
>>96463396
Vostroyan if he dorf
Anonymous No.96464190 >>96464226
>>96464179
>Tau
>being a bigger threat than necrons, ever
what retarded kind of shit headcanon is this?
Anonymous No.96464202 >>96464207
>>96464056
Wish I had friends nearby that had a set up at their house, the only friend that I know that's into this hobby lives 4 hours away. I just want to have a few beers while playing a game, cant do that at an lgs
Anonymous No.96464204 >>96464215 >>96464228 >>96464241 >>96464260
>>96464179
Moar
>>96464181
The artwork was originally not coloured.
Anonymous No.96464207
>>96464202
>no beer at your LGS
must feel bad to be american
Anonymous No.96464215 >>96464228
>>96464204
>The artwork was originally not coloured
When it wasn't colored it wasn't 'attached' to that story though
Anonymous No.96464217 >>96464222 >>96464223 >>96464224
>I'm getting raped.
Anonymous No.96464222 >>96464246
>>96464217
>implying warhammer 40k players can get sexual intercourse
Anonymous No.96464223 >>96464246
>>96464217
Grim
Anonymous No.96464224
>>96464217
we don't sign our posts here
Anonymous No.96464226 >>96464245 >>96464250
>>96464190
Necrons are declining, Tau are ascending.
Every Necrons killed is an irreplaceable loss and they're getting ravaged by dementia and the Flayer virus. At some point the Crons will run out of brainpower and be little more than animals
Anonymous No.96464228 >>96464264 >>96464395
>>96464204
>Curiosity's Cost

>T’au Empire explorers board the empty husk of Craftworld She’enshar. Just days after their arrival, the T’au are driven off by Harlequins of the Frozen Stars, who surge from the craftworld’s webway portals to violently evict the interlopers.

Codex: Harlequins (8th edition)

>>96464215
It comes from the 6th ED codex originally, which mentions the Iyanden interaction.
Anonymous No.96464234
new raven guard detachment seems worse than the regular vanguard one
Anonymous No.96464241
>>96464204
I like the characterization on the Tau for that one.
Anonymous No.96464243
>>96463918
i think they look fine for what it's worth
Anonymous No.96464245 >>96464261
>>96464226
There are trillions of crons tho
Anonymous No.96464246
>>96464222
You retard, it's very easy to lose your virginity if you play using winner tops rules. You're either going to end up getting raped or raping your opponent, both are good outcomes.

>>96464223
And dark!
Anonymous No.96464250 >>96464261
>>96464226
they are bound to splinter eventually even if they are ascending now. even with all the dynastic wars, the necrons at least have a common goal. what common goal has a vespid with a kroot besides eating?
Anonymous No.96464253 >>96464268
>>96463243
>>96463279
>shitposter
looks like some feelings are starting to get hurt by the truth
Anonymous No.96464260 >>96464265
>>96464204
why do the writers not understand that a phyrric victory isn't a victory at all?
Anonymous No.96464261
>>96464250
>>96464245
The Necrons own codex says that their chances of conquering the galaxy without the Pariah Nexus plan are virtually nonexistent due to their madness and infighting.
And the Pariah Nexus plan was derailed after Vashtorr fucked over the Silent King.
The Necrons' prospects are grim.

Most Kroot, according to their new lore genuinely believe in the Greater Good and are utterly loyal to the T'au
Anonymous No.96464264 >>96464311
>>96464228
>It comes from the 6th ED codex originally
The 6th ed codex was colored, the non colored artwork is older.

You're trying to tell me the artwork represents that event before the event was written and it being colored to show a different subfaction in the codex where that lore is written is indication the artwork does indeed represent that event.
Anonymous No.96464265 >>96464284
>>96464260
The T'au didn't lose anything, though.
Anonymous No.96464268
>>96464253
Sunk cost demands that they defend their hobby against accusations that compfags won and ruined the hobby, even when they know it's true
Anonymous No.96464269
>>96464150
I believe blanon.
Anonymous No.96464274 >>96464303
>New RG guy has free rapid ingress, free heroic and reroll charge rolls
Is he really just the ENTER character
Anonymous No.96464275 >>96464289 >>96464296 >>96464311 >>96464313 >>96464323 >>96464336
Was the Big E stronger than any eldar war in heaven psykers before he was placed on the Golden Throne? I know he supposedly beat up the largest shard of the Void Dragon c'tan in the Middle Ages using a spear so that suggests the answer is yes?
Anonymous No.96464284
>>96464265
>losses amongst the tau's vassal races are substantial
I forgot that they are communists and don't care when satellites get brutally slaughtered in the name of their party slogan
Anonymous No.96464289 >>96464298 >>96464300
>>96464275
The meme is wrong, and whoever drew it needs to be tortured for their ignorance. The Emperor imprisoned a shard of the void dragon, whereas the necrons split the original c'tan into those shards and then imprisoned them as easily as Ash traps Pokémon.
Anonymous No.96464290 >>96464299
>>96464150
Such a gorgeous model anon, I really enjoy coming here and seeing your stuff. Maybe one day we can be best of friends.
Anonymous No.96464296 >>96464298
>>96464275
Isn't it stated the Emperor barely escaped with his life too?
Anonymous No.96464298
>>96464289
It wasn't easy for the necrons, but it was specifically a shard with half of the void dragon's power that was created when a blackstone fortress split it in two. A modern necron dynasty would get clapped by a ctan shard that large

>>96464296
Not sure but that would make sense. Defeating a shard with half the power of an ancient ctan is insane, it has to be one of the emperor's most incredible feats
Anonymous No.96464299
>>96464290
Anonymous No.96464300 >>96464304 >>96464309
>>96464289
>necrons split the original c'tan into those shards
yeah I never quite understood that. given that ctan are like physical anti warp entities, shouldn't they die when split up? I mean there is no immaterial quality to them, right? how does a broken entity still wield power?
Anonymous No.96464303
>>96464274
Apparenlty he couldn't lead any unit. Weird.
Anonymous No.96464304 >>96464319 >>96464322
>>96464300
They didn't have physical bodies or sentience originally, they were this sort of star parasites that floated around. The necrons (who actually ruined everything in 40k) created them living metal bodies based on their mythological gods, which is when they gained sentience.
Anonymous No.96464309
>>96464300
The main lesson to take away is that newcron lore is shit and they should've stuck with oldcrons
Anonymous No.96464311
>>96464264
>The 6th ed codex was colored, the non colored artwork is older.
Proof?
>>96464275
One, the tale was told from the shard's perspective, and the novel says it's unknown what's real and what's an allegory from the memories of the Dragon.
Two, the novel says that the shard was mortally wounded by its kind when it fell to earth
Anonymous No.96464313 >>96464315
>>96464275
We know none of the details of the Emperor's "battle" with the void dragon shard. It's just as likely it submitted willingly and was given Mars as it's sphere of influence. There are several books that imply it is less trapped in the labyrinth and more resides there.
Anonymous No.96464315
>>96464313
Interesting
Anonymous No.96464319
>>96464304
>created them living metal bodies based on their mythological gods,
No, the C'tan took the forms of the old Necrontyr gods.
Anonymous No.96464322 >>96464341 >>96464398
>>96464304
that's what I don't get. if they imprisoned ctan in the same kind of metal bodies they have themselves why do 99% of necrons not retain their sanity? why aren't they sentient when a broken star parasite can be? especially considering necrons had souls at some point and ctan most likely never did
Anonymous No.96464323
>>96464275
No
Anonymous No.96464325
>>96464150
Do you reckon CSM use space marine helmets as trophies becuase they're more resiliant and last longer than just skulls, being just bone and all
Anonymous No.96464330 >>96464353 >>96464375
What kind of energy are the CTan made of if they are only made of corporeal physical, tangible, measurable things and not any kind of warp energy? Are they sentient radio waves?
Anonymous No.96464336 >>96464345 >>96464347 >>96464348 >>96464357
>>96464275
Yes. The Emperor is the strongest psyker the galacy has ever known.
Anonymous No.96464337 >>96464348 >>96464363 >>96464368 >>96464391 >>96464446
Void dragon aside, the emperor is clearly meant to be the strongest psyker in the setting. There really isn't anyone else in the same league. He was probably about as strong as it is possible for a living biological psyker to be. That's why I think it only makes sense to assume he or humanity was created as a weapon by the Old Ones or something, he is a genuine freak of nature. I know the old lore about the shamans isn't canon anymore but you need something like that or the Old Ones to explain his existence.
Anonymous No.96464341
>>96464322
>in the same kind of metal bodies they have themselves
it wasn't the same and the ctan are very different things from normal living beings
Anonymous No.96464345
>>96464336
that's the story his church tells, yes
Anonymous No.96464347
>>96464336
Debatable. Definitely the strongest in the current few myriads. The Old Ones were beings of incalculable power that could even create new warp gods though.
Anonymous No.96464348 >>96464364 >>96464366
>>96464337
>>96464336
No proof of that is given.
Gav Thorp when asked if the Emperor is a god, said no.

Meanwhile, VAshtorr described the Old Ones as living gods.
Anonymous No.96464353 >>96464371 >>96464378
>>96464330
They're not just made of corporeal physical, tangible, measurable things, they are a sentient tangle of the very fabric of spacetime, that's why you cannot destroy them without tearing apart reality.
Anonymous No.96464354 >>96464373
>>96464150
Please tell me those are just stickers and you didn't actually paint over your masterpiece
Anonymous No.96464357
>>96464336
He's beleived to be in universe. How true it is is anyones guess
Anonymous No.96464363
>>96464337
>the emperor is clearly meant to be the strongest psyker in the setting
no, it isn't
Anonymous No.96464364 >>96464382
>>96464348
>said no

Oh no no no what the fuck is empowering the sisters of battle and living saints then. The unborn star child? It can't be the dark king, as the dark king is a ruinous powers himself and therefore not considered "anathema"
Anonymous No.96464366 >>96464377 >>96464382
>>96464348
That has nothing to do with whether he is the strongest psyker or not. That being said, the concept of a god isn't even defined clearly in 40k, that gets covered in Godblight. If a small number of humans joining the Tau can create a minor Greater Good warp entity then trillions of humans worshipping the emperor for ten thousand years would clearly juice him beyond belief, and he was already the strongest psyker.
Anonymous No.96464368
>>96464337
I always think of the discussion between Magnus(Tzeentch) and Vulkan (The Emperor) when Tzeentch finally realizes he is not talking to Vulkan but someone clearly much more powerful and he just straight up asks outta nowhere "Who are you?!"
Anonymous No.96464371 >>96464389
>>96464353
How does sentient spacetime feel about the canon existence of time travel?
Anonymous No.96464373 >>96464468 >>96464484
>>96464354
It's painter's tape which I sprayed gold.
Anonymous No.96464375
>>96464330
GW never decided. They just thought it would be cool if they contrasted warp-based gods but never gave it any serious thought beyond that.
Anonymous No.96464377 >>96464392 >>96464457
>>96464366
We're gonna kill you, Corpse-Emperor worshipper. The Emperor is not a fucking god, and whatever is pulling off feats of faith in the Imperium is either the Unborn Star Child in the warp or something else entirely. Your Emperor is merely a corpse. The setting is grimdark. Embrace it and stop trying to pretend it's heroshit
Anonymous No.96464378 >>96464399 >>96464501
>>96464353
Why does trapping and sharding the fabric of reality not rip apart the fabric of reality?
Anonymous No.96464382 >>96464385 >>96464401 >>96464410 >>96464417 >>96464467
>>96464364
>>96464366
We have been over this.
Faith Powers are not psychic. They do not come from the Warp.
Anonymous No.96464385 >>96464406
>>96464382
What do they come from, then? Jesus? Is Jesus canon?
Anonymous No.96464389
>>96464371
Dunno, but I'd be pretty miffed and jelly about it.
Anonymous No.96464391
>>96464337
>I know the old lore about the shamans isn't canon anymore

What? Since when?
Anonymous No.96464392
>>96464377
Who ever said him becoming a god is a "good" thing? I mean, it probably isn't is it? Eldar gods did all sorts of crazy shit, and the sort of god he evolves into is dependent on the believers so the sort of being that might truly "wake up" in the warp if his physical body died wouldn't really be the man that was put on the Golden Throne
Anonymous No.96464393 >>96464412
Weird tangent but, can Necrons even enter the warp? Is there any instance of them ever doing so in the lore? How do they perceive things in the warp with no souls?
Anonymous No.96464395
>>96464228
Some more.
The Frozen Stars are said to oppose the reckless expansion of the Tau Empire, especially when it treads on Eldar property.
Anonymous No.96464398
>>96464322
>if they imprisoned ctan in the same kind of metal bodies they have themselves
Not the same kind of bodies, just the same kind of metal. A c'tan body and a necron warrior body, though both made primarily of necrodermis, has as much in common as a howitzer cannon has to a rusty sword even though both are made primarily steel.
Anonymous No.96464399 >>96464409
>>96464378
Multidimensional knot theory.
Anonymous No.96464401 >>96464407 >>96464437
>>96464382
We've been over this. Faith Powers are not your psychic abilities. They come from someone you have faith in who is psychic.
Anonymous No.96464406 >>96464420 >>96464421 >>96464461
>>96464385
>is Jesus canon?

Yes. Now you're getting it. 40k is a Christian setting, the Emperor is Christ returned and He is setting things right in the galaxy. This is why Chaos cannot win, because He is King and is prophesized to win. 40k is merely the time of tribulations, the millennium of peace everlasting is just over the horizon. This is why chaos players are more than just annoying, they're Satan worshippers. Only be worshipping the Christ-Emperor can you be saved and redeemed.
Anonymous No.96464407
>>96464401
"But that's just psychic powers with extra steps."
Anonymous No.96464409
>>96464399
So you're saying they just made the CTan... take the knot?
Anonymous No.96464410 >>96464437
>>96464382
>Faith Powers are not psychic. They do not come from the Warp.

Yes, they do. The warp is effected by emotions, beliefs, and subjective experience. How much any being changes the warp depends on how strong their soul is there. A psyker is a person with a greater connection to the warp, a more powerful soul. Faith in the emperor changes the warp just like anything else does. That's also why Fabius Bile's reddit atheism causes daemons physical pain when they are near him.


40k has always been pic related
Anonymous No.96464412 >>96464440
>>96464393
Yes.
They were terrified.
Illic Nightspear's rifle transports Necrons to the Warp.
The Nightbringer's capital ship was lost in the Warp for millions of years.
Anonymous No.96464417
>>96464382
>We have been over this.
You know that people recognize you as a shitter when you use this phrase.
Anonymous No.96464420
>>96464406
Based
Anonymous No.96464421
>>96464406
Idolatry? In /40kg/? It's more likely than you think!
Anonymous No.96464437 >>96464449 >>96464451
>>96464401
>>96464410
No. A psychic expert once told the Ethereals that Faith Powers come from within, not from the Warp.

>That's also why Fabius Bile's reddit atheism causes daemons physical pain when they are near him.
Post text.
Anonymous No.96464440 >>96464448
>>96464412
>Nightbringer's capital ship
wut?
Anonymous No.96464446
>>96464337
>power levels
No.
Anonymous No.96464448 >>96464469
>>96464440
You haven't read the Nightbringer novel by Graham McNeil?
Anonymous No.96464449 >>96464471 >>96464509
>>96464437
>Saqqara unhooked a flask and murmured softly, running a finger over it in what might have been a calming manner. As he drew close to Fabius, the daemons within his flask grew agitated.

>"They hate you, Fabius," observed Palos. "The daemons - I've never heard them make that sort of noise. Usually it's all laughter and whispers."

>"Why should they be any different to the rest of us?" Savona said.

>"The Neverborn are stories made flesh," Saqqara said, holding up the flask. The formless thing within slammed minuscule fists against the wall of its prison. "Stories of murder and fear, despair and hope. Of excess and cruelty. They are warnings and retributions, hammered into shape by our belief. They are what we make of them." He looked at Fabius. "And he makes of them... nothing. He denies them, denies the story of them. It infuriates them, down to the very root of their conception."

>Fabius smiled. "As I will always deny them. I will not play the willing meat for such lazy parasites. If they want my belief, they must show me something more than they have already." The thing in the flask grew agitated, causing it to shudder in Saqqara's grip. Fabius leaned close, smile widening. "But that would require some degree of true sentience, I fear. Something these thought-forms are singularly incapable of. They are nothing but cunning mirrors - hollow and empty. But they do make wonderful scouts."
Anonymous No.96464451 >>96464497
>>96464437
Give a straight answer and tell us where you think faith powers come from, then provide a source
Anonymous No.96464457
>>96464377
>The Emperor is a corpse (He is the Carrion Lord after all)
>The wapr entity born from the God Emperor worship is very much very
>This 'God Emperor' being is just as short sighted, ignorant, theocratic, hateful, spiteful and stupid as the ignorant masses of the Imperium that formed it
Damn thats grimdark
Anonymous No.96464461 >>96464478
>>96464406
>schizoposting

Wouldn't the Emperor actually be the antichrist considering he destroyed Christianity and demanded people worship science in its place?
Anonymous No.96464467 >>96464497
>>96464382
>We have been over this.
You say that, but your proofs on the matter have been shown time and time again to be faulty.


a race that doesn't understand warpstuff at all thinks to have found a way to completely block it, something passes through.
the easiest conclusion is not that faith powers aren't warp powers at all, but that they work in ways not yet understood that somehow get around that block.


say for example you built a dam to block a river, but the next day you found your house completely wet anyway.
you can consider that water might reach your house in ways other than the river or you might shut your brain and argue that rain isn't actually water.
Anonymous No.96464468
>>96464373
Nta but let us know how you do anon
Anonymous No.96464469
>>96464448
>oldcron lore
Anonymous No.96464471 >>96464491
>>96464449
So it's not actual pain but just annoyance. Not too dissimilar to daemons feeling bothered by Orks not fearing them. And of course, that's just a Word Bearer speaking religiously and not the objective truth.
Secular and amoral science after all empowers Vashrorr
Anonymous No.96464477
N O

THA EMPRAH IS EH GOHD

DO NOWT BE SO BOOOOLD AND FOOLISH
Anonymous No.96464478
>>96464461
Oh, and he also proceeded to use Christian imagery after destroying it in order to prop up science. Straight up appropriating holy symbology in order to further his own unholy ends. Sounds outright demonic to me
Anonymous No.96464484
>>96464373
Oh thank god
Anonymous No.96464491 >>96464513
>>96464471
You're misunderstanding. Things you do for "secular" reasons can empower chaos. It's specifically his denial of their existence as daemons, of insisting on understanding them merely as another kind of non-sentient phenomena. It is an active denial of them.

You really came across as retarded in this thread
Anonymous No.96464497 >>96464508 >>96464515
>>96464451
Like miracles in real life, it's supposed to be mysterious.
>>96464467
It's not a lack of knowledge on the part of the Necrons. The text outright says it's not of the Warp.

Even the Sisters of Silence know that they can't shut down Faith Powers.
Anonymous No.96464498
>>96463593
So, all of the new detachments require a named model?
This is giving me the end of 9th vibes, with the removal of wargear costs in some units that got general in 10th
Anonymous No.96464501
>>96464378
More like brapping and sharding lawl
Anonymous No.96464508 >>96464544
>>96464497
>It's not a lack of knowledge on the part of the Necrons.
Yes, it is
Anonymous No.96464509
>>96464449
Words cannot describe tbe loathing I feel for Fabius and all of the fans of his who utterly misunderstood the exchange between him and Slaanesh.
Anonymous No.96464513
>>96464491
No. You are reading too much into this. You can deny daemons all you want. It won't hurt them. It's not belief that created them. It's not what powers them. It's basic emotions.
Anonymous No.96464515 >>96464533 >>96464544 >>96464574
>>96464497
>when the warp pylons on cadia got turned on briefly by Cawl and Trazyn, all warp phenomena disappeared
>this included all the faith powers of the sisters of battle present as well as Celestine's saint powers
>the legion of the damned disappeared briefly during this event

Hmmm, sounds warp based to me
Anonymous No.96464533 >>96464550
Necrons don't understand souls or psyker shit. They have the most advanced science when it comes to the physical universe, but anything involving the warp is just "idk, it's like, magic." That's why the experiments at putting necron minds in the bodies of other races have been failing in fucked up ways

>>96464515
yeah this guy is a coping retard
Anonymous No.96464544 >>96464590
>>96464515
Only Celestine's power was shut off, and GW addressed that recently. The Legion of the Damned is not based on Faith powers. Their mini-series shows that they use a Warp relic to turn marines into what they are.

The Pylons of the Nexus are an upgrade on the Old Pylons. They can't shut down Stern or the acts of faith.
>>96464508
No. Read the text of Stern's novel or Psychic Awakening: Pariah.
Anonymous No.96464550 >>96464557 >>96464564
>>96464533
>yeah this guy is a coping retard
Coping is telling you what the text says verbatim?
Anonymous No.96464557 >>96464573
>>96464550
you are not smart enough to merit another substantive reply. You are at the point where you are implying that Celestine, the living saint, having her powers turned off by cutting off the warp has nothing to say about the connection between faith and the warp. It's pointless to engage you further
Anonymous No.96464564 >>96464587
>>96464550
coping is misreporting what the text says verbatim and then ignoring everything but your assumption
Anonymous No.96464573 >>96464584
>>96464557
Whatever, man.
Did you know that Celestine once again fought beneath the effect of Pylons, and her powers weren't diminished at all?
So what happened on Cadis was effectively retconned.
Deal with it.
Anonymous No.96464574 >>96464597
>>96464515
No, see, faith Powers come from a different parallel dimension called the house of god and the pylons strengthening reality just also makes that one split away the same way that the warp does. It's seperate but equal.
Anonymous No.96464576 >>96464685
I think Black Library sucks.
Anonymous No.96464584 >>96464613
>>96464573
>So what happened on Cadis was effectively retconned.
OR the new pylons worked slightly differently.
Even on cadia it wasn't an all or nothing situation either.
Anonymous No.96464585 >>96464628 >>96464630 >>96464859
Love this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe.
Anonymous No.96464587 >>96464651
>>96464564
Not an assumption. A factual statement. You are the one adding things that are not there.
Anonymous No.96464590 >>96464656
>>96464544
>Only Celestine's power was shut off, and GW addressed that recently

Proof? Post the fucking source, dude.
Anonymous No.96464592 >>96464627 >>96464696
>Where the cyclopean pylons rise to the skies, entire regions of realspace are cut off from the warp as though by a fractured wall of glass. Though the effect is not absolute, warp travel and translation, astropathic messaging and the manifestation of daemonic or psychic energies become vastly more difficult. Should the scattered nexus sites extend until their fields merge, Szarekh believes that the threat of Chaos could be defeated forevermore.
>Though the effect is not absolute

Pylons, nulls, and other anti-warp measures never fully shut off the connection. Funnily enough there is one pysker who was known ot be able to overcome the pariah gene....
Anonymous No.96464595
>>96463636
Now this is cricket.
Anonymous No.96464597
>>96464574
>the house of god
that's the warp
Anonymous No.96464613
>>96464584
The Pylons that Celestine fought under were of the old type, similar to the Cadian ones.

The Gathering Storm book said that 99% of the psychic powers were suppressed and all psykers save for the most powerful ones died. The Pylons didn't reach 100% power yet.
Anonymous No.96464627 >>96464639 >>96464661 >>96464717
>>96464592
My guy, that's on areas where the Pylons are not working 100%.

If you bothered to read more Pariah Nexus crap then you would know that if Pylons were triggered to 100% in a system, all life ends and the Warp becomes so frozen that daemons freeze in place in it like flies in amber.
Anonymous No.96464628
>>96464585
I'm painting the eyes on two right now
Anonymous No.96464630
>>96464585
Do you own one. Is it painted? Can we see it
Anonymous No.96464639 >>96464655 >>96464668
>>96464627
>my guy
>dude
even the way you write is unbearably retarded, never reply to me again
Anonymous No.96464651 >>96464668
>>96464587
>A factual statement
Nope, what's factual is that you misreported what was said verbatim and are ignoring any and all potential readings of the text for your own assumption that flies in the face of everything else brought against it.

The difference being highlighted is in method, not source, imperials have absolutely no understanding of the source of their powers or the nature of warpstuff either, they only know their method.
That's why the text says the imperials understood the difference.
Anonymous No.96464655 >>96464661
>>96464639
nasty little wank
Anonymous No.96464656 >>96464666
>>96464590
The Warhammer+Loremasters episode "The Nephilim Anomaly" gave theories on why Stern is unaffected by Pylons while Celestine was on Cadia:

Theory 1: There is a variance in the Pylons

Theory 2: The strength of faith of both characters and those around them

Theory 3: Something mysterious at work
Anonymous No.96464661
>>96464627
>>96464655
Anonymous No.96464666 >>96464679 >>96464686
>>96464656
Theres also the whole ephreal stern book where she learns her powers are not warp born at the end but i think im probably the only person who read that also >bl
Anonymous No.96464668 >>96464691
>>96464639
Sorry (not sorry) that you are wrong and autistic.

>>96464651
That's the omniscient narrator saying that the Necrons were wrong and the Imperials were right.
It's simple English. You can't twist into your fanfiction.
Anonymous No.96464679
>>96464666
Of course Satan would read BL
Anonymous No.96464685 >>96464734
>>96464576
>I think Black Library sucks.
Were you expecting better literary quality from a publisher that makes books about a toy soldiers game, played by middle-aged men?
Anonymous No.96464686 >>96464762
>>96464666
That too. In the end chapter, all psykers are struck by the Pariah Nexus while Stern is unbothered and still channeling her power.

But these guys in the thread just can't handle that faith is separate from the Warp. Even Stern's rules IIRC note that her power is not psychic.
Anonymous No.96464691 >>96464712
>>96464668
You're once again misreporting what the text says, the omniscient narrator says the imperials understood the difference.
The imperials cannot understand the difference in source, they have zero knowledge of the metaphysics, they can only understand the difference in methodology.

If we go by your assumption, the omniscient narrator is objectively wrong, but he cannot be wrong, so your assumption is to be discarded.
Anonymous No.96464696
>>96464592
>Funnily enough there is one pysker who was known ot be able to overcome the pariah gene....
Magnus?
Greyfax?
Anonymous No.96464712 >>96464747
>>96464691
It's an easy simple English text. Imperials understood that what Stern was manifesting stems from faith. That's it, clear and simple. It didn't say they understood the exact metaphysics behind it. They have straightforward faith that their faith was manifesting. While the Necrons, as the text describes, were clueless that faith powers cannot be countered by Pylons
Anonymous No.96464717 >>96464736
>>96464627
If the pylons ever actually worked like that then how in the hell did the Necrons manage to lose the War in Heaven?
Anonymous No.96464725 >>96464741
This is all a cautionary tale about how not to write magic/demons.
Anonymous No.96464734 >>96464774
>>96464685
Not OP but I think the big issue I have with BL is that it's very bad but people seem to really bring it up constantly. If you play 40k, one of the TTRPG, or even if you are a video game secondary you will be subjected to the books or their content violently and against your will. Also there are a couple of good tie-in novels out there, Warcraft 2 had a book that was pretty decent though apparently all the other attempts were shit, and I heard good things about a few Halo books.
Anonymous No.96464736
>>96464717
According to the Oldcron lore, the Necrons were about to finish the Pylon network that would have sealed their ultimate victory but then the Old Ones empire exploded so there was no point in completing it.
Anonymous No.96464741
>>96464725
Finally an anon who gets it
Anonymous No.96464747 >>96464764
>>96464712
>It didn't say they understood the exact metaphysics behind it
exactly, meaning they only thing they are understanding is that they are praying and having results, instead of casting spells and having results.

it's simple logic, you can twist and turn it however you want, but the difference remains in method, not in matter, because they cannot understand the matter.

You're wrong and should go die on a different hill.
Anonymous No.96464762 >>96464780 >>96464798
>>96464686
So they're just turning 40k into capeshit? Is that it? They're just taking out the grimdark so that faith powered superhumans who are immune to psychic dampening sources can run around and shitstomp the setting?
Anonymous No.96464764 >>96464781
>>96464747
No. I am not. As a kind anon reminded me, the Stern novel also states that Faith Powers DO NOT come from the Warp.
Source after source says this while you are clinging to fanfiction.
Anonymous No.96464774
>>96464734
Yeah. I understand what you are saying. The lorefags in this hobby can be unpleasant, but I don't think anyone else was pretending that Black Library was good. I think most people in the hobby are generally well read enough to know better.
Anonymous No.96464780 >>96464794
>>96464762
Faith Powers are not always good or kind. Remember the fate of the saint child in the Dark Imperium series? Or what happened to the Humble Saints? Or the poor saint guy that the Imperials in Nihilus used as a lighthouse, making him suffer immense pain.

Faith and miracles being explained defeats the point of faith and miracles. I am glad GW corrected their lore.
Anonymous No.96464781 >>96464790
>>96464764
>No. I am not.
Yes, you are.

>states that
no, it doesn't, you're once again misreporting your shit and ignoring everything else that's long been established about it
Anonymous No.96464790 >>96464814 >>96464821
>>96464781
I am.
Sadly, you are too obsessed with your fanfiction.
Don't worry. GW will continue to write that faith =/= Warp.
Anonymous No.96464794 >>96464803 >>96464828
>>96464780
>Faith and miracles being explained defeats the point of faith and miracles
Sounds like pathetic god botherer cope to me. The 40k setting is meant to show that life under a theocracy is the worst kind of life since everythings run by the deluded and the mad.
The Emperor is a militant atheist burning out all organised faiths during the good old days of the great crusade for a reason
Anonymous No.96464798
>>96464762
Anon, 40k has been heroic fantasy capeshit since 2017, when they revived Guilliman. This is just them doubling down and instead of making faith powers the psychic byproduct of a malevolent warp entity claiming to be the Emperor, they've copped out and made it miracle superpowers with no grimdark undercurrent at all. "If I believe hard enough and have the power of friendship, I can BELIIIEEEEVE superpowers into existence!" Rest assured, they will be making a joytoy of Stern in the next few years once she gets a model.

Grimdark simply doesn't sell, capeshit does.
Anonymous No.96464802 >>96464837
Heat Axes
Anonymous No.96464803
>>96464794
Surrender your hard drive Chaos creep
Anonymous No.96464807 >>96464816 >>96464857 >>96464886
Where do the Eldar gods figure into the whole faith/warp stuff?
Were they even actual Gods?
Anonymous No.96464810 >>96464811 >>96464831 >>96464833
Okay, but why does Faith in the Greater Good create a Warp God instead of miracles?
Anonymous No.96464811
>>96464810
Because Black Library are hacks
Anonymous No.96464814 >>96464831
>>96464790
>GW will continue to write that faith =/= Warp
But it's not written that anywhere, you're once again seeing rain and calling it not water because a dam was set up to stop water.
Anonymous No.96464816 >>96464824
>>96464807
The Eldar are Psykers so their belief manifests directly for them. You don't need to have faith when your desires produce consistent and tangible results.
Anonymous No.96464817 >>96464847
To add to the discussion, here is Tau and their allies discussing Faith Powers:

>‘I am not sure it works like that, Groundbreaker.’ The ace steerswoman Kor’vre Dagashei, shorter than most of her willowy kind but still head and shoulders taller than Bel’gai, made the parting-fingers gesture of the broken theorem. ‘I encountered this specific form of mind-science at Mu’galath Bay. It has more to do with confidence than with any genetic predisposition, I believe. Unlike the genetic version of the mind-quirk, it can wax and it can wane, for it is not innate. Is that not correct, Kindred Soul?’

>Bel’gai’s eyes fixed on the nicassar known as Ghorale, the white-limbed, ursine creature afloat in its personal hoversphere. Every elemental council had a delegate from a vassal race as part of its number, and the nicassar were commonly sought for their wisdom in matters esoteric.

>‘No psychic,’ replied the alien, his words a low growl. ‘No genetic. It come heart. It come spirit.’

At this he tapped his chest with a curving claw the length of a bonding knife. Though the nicassar were so psychic they rarely used physical force, Bel’gai had no doubt Ghorale could disembowel a gue’ron’sha Space Marine with a single swipe.

>‘Cannot be counted,’ the Kindred Soul finished, shaking his head amidst a flurry of bubbles.

>‘Everything can be counted, if you find the right measure for it,’ said Groundbreaker. ‘Even this this phenomenon of faith. I have taken the liberty of categorising the events viewed thus far into five strata. We have seen several different severities of anomaly, the greatest of which were manifest during the capture of your current subject, Por’vre Bel’gai. We of the fio eagerly await your unlocking of the source of her power.’ He made the gesture of the hidden key, turning two fingers in the air. ‘Can it be done with words alone, do you think? Or do you need more… practical assistance?’
Anonymous No.96464821 >>96464847
>>96464790
You started out with the conclusion that faith doesn't equal warp stuff and worked your way backwards because you're a Christcuck attempting to shove his theology into 40k. GTFO
Anonymous No.96464824
>>96464816
So they were just daemons, not actual Gods?
Anonymous No.96464828
>>96464794
Lmao trying too hard.
Anonymous No.96464831 >>96464844
>>96464814
You being deluded is your cross to bear.

>>96464810
It does generate miracles as shown in Shadowsun's novel.
The goddess was born from the reflection of the nobility of the Tau in the eyes and minds of their allies.
Anonymous No.96464832
>>96463330
I painted up a disco lord. Pretty cool model.
Anonymous No.96464833 >>96464858
>>96464810
Because GW wants to shit on Rick Priestley's legacy and bury it with slop
Anonymous No.96464837
>>96464802
What if I paint them as power axes?

What's special rule-wise about plasma melee weapons?
Anonymous No.96464844 >>96464858
>>96464831
Your conclusions violate the sanctity of Rick Priestley's original writings in Realms of Chaos. You are a blasphemer, a tourist and a blight, with no respect towards those who created this setting! Leave this hobby.
Anonymous No.96464847 >>96464945
>>96464821
No. I am following the lore.
You materialized an ad hoc rationalization that faith = Warp.

See >>96464817
The idea of Faith Powers is that they are beyond understanding. They cannot be explained. They are not genetic like psychic powers. They *miraculously* appear.
Anonymous No.96464857
>>96464807
Eldar 'gods' are just Greater Daemons of the Chaos Gods that the Old Ones put new clothes on. Most came from Slaanesh, but Khaine is from Khorne, Isha is from Nurgle, and Cegorach is from Tzeentch.
Anonymous No.96464858 >>96464897 >>96464920 >>96465046
>>96464833
>>96464844
No.
By the way, Rick once said that he doesn't follow modern 40K since he won't stop himself from going "That's not how it's supposed to work" every few sentences.

As we are discussing modern 40K, Rick is irrelevant.
Anonymous No.96464859 >>96464872
>>96464585
I remember there was a point in time when they were value enough to see whole armies spamming them
Think they had rings that fired lascannons shots or something
Anonymous No.96464872
>>96464859
You picked, or rolled I've forgotten too, a weapon.
They had lascannons. multimeltas, flamers and some others.
They were basically Oblits plus they buffed the unit they were in with a random upgrade to their guns
A great unit because it's just goofy fun
Anonymous No.96464875 >>96464883
It seems we've been derailed into arguing the metaphysics of a setting which retconned its entire metaphysics.
Anonymous No.96464880
>>96463726
I think those are entirely cosmetic as of this edition, they have no weapon options now
I'd go with power cable and scope personally
Anonymous No.96464883 >>96464899
>>96464875
Better than the discordtranny spam about terrain.
Anonymous No.96464886 >>96464896 >>96464909
>>96464807
eldar orks and humans are 3 iterations of the old ones working with ways to tap into the immaterial

the eldar do not have genuine faith, they know their gods exist and revere them, but that's not a belief, it's a knowledge, everything they do is ritualised but underneath it all everything is consciously rationalised, as a race they're very attuned to conscious immaterial manipulation and almost that kind of manipulation alone
but one could say that without genuine faith, they're no real masters of their own destinies and instead have a fatalistic outlook to their existence

orks are a polar opposite, there's barely anything conscious about it, they do stuff because they believe it works, not because they know it works, so much so that you could say they don't have a real understanding of the difference between a belief and an info, they're designed to subconsciously tap into the immaterial and get a very specific result
but without proper conscious effort the orks too are locked into a cycle or a spiral

and then come humans, a perhaps lucky hit of the sweetspot between conscious free will and ability to chart a goal, and a dose of that good old zealous ignorance that in warhammer can literally help in achieving the impossible by believing hard enough


I am definitely reading too much into the accidental fluff accumulated over the years, but it's a functional headcanon for me
Anonymous No.96464896
>>96464886
Solid breakdown chief
Anonymous No.96464897
>>96464858
Rick himself didn’t know how the setting worked when he was still working
Anonymous No.96464899
>>96464883
I guess, not by much tho
Anonymous No.96464909
>>96464886
This is very good headcanon. I choose to integrate it into my own.
Anonymous No.96464912 >>96465001
I wish there was a game where you could play as a cryptek
Anonymous No.96464920 >>96464931
>>96464858
>we are discussing modern 40K
You are doing that, which is a shame, because we could all be talking about a cooler version of the setting if you didn't keep citing new shit made by retards.
Anonymous No.96464931
>>96464920
>cooler version of the setting
He already said he’s talking about the modern version of 40K
Anonymous No.96464945 >>96464997
>>96464847
>They cannot be explained
so you cannot rule out them being warpstuff either
Anonymous No.96464983 >>96464998 >>96465054
>Faith =/= Warp power
But how does the big fifth Chaos God with a yellow colour scheme fit into this? A divinity in the Warp characterised by yellow, a king in Yellow if you will
Anonymous No.96464997 >>96465016
>>96464945
I can because the text says it's not from there.
Anonymous No.96464998 >>96465020 >>96465039
>>96464983
the king in the yellow plotline is a nothingburger for homo heresy fags

here's the real yellow demon
Anonymous No.96465001
>>96464912
Mechanicus 2?
Dawn of War 4 (maybe)
Anonymous No.96465016 >>96465072
>>96464997
So you can't, because the text doesn't say that.
Anonymous No.96465020
>>96464998
I hate the horus heresy with a burning passion but pulling ricky retardo out is a real "pot calling the kettle a nigger" moment
Anonymous No.96465039 >>96465067
>>96464998
The King in Yellow title Abnett took has no deeper meaning or plan other than being a cool title for Valdor. He's been writing slop for a while now, I can't think of an interesting or good idea thats come from him in a while
Anonymous No.96465046
>>96464858
HERETIC!!! YOU BLASPHEME HIS NAME!!! YOU SPIT UPON KINO, YOU RAISE UP THE UNHOLY ROUNTREE AND HIS TERRIBLE FLOCK OF DEMONIC HERALDS, ARRIVED TO TURN KINO INTO MAINSTREAM SLOP! YOU SEEK FOR 40K TO BECOME WORLD WAR TWO IN SPACE!
Anonymous No.96465054 >>96465063 >>96465073
>>96464983
You're a fucking retard and clearly have not read The End and The Death. All the details about the fifth chaos god are contained therein.
Anonymous No.96465063 >>96465068
>>96465054
The king of darkness or whatever gay ass name they gave for the Emperor if he became a chaos god is fucking gay and I will never read the HH slop or see it as a canon
Anonymous No.96465067
>>96465039
Abnett is like having a neighbor who lets their dog shit in your yard for 20 years.
Anonymous No.96465068 >>96465082
>>96465063
Abnett wrote it, and he also wrote the same king in yellow you cite as being the fifth chaos god in 40k.
Anonymous No.96465072
>>96465016
I can.
The image has already been posted.
Anonymous No.96465073 >>96465084 >>96465167
>>96465054
>All the details about the fifth chaos god are contained therein.

>ctrl+f "rat"
>0 results
Anonymous No.96465082 >>96465086 >>96465099 >>96465116
>>96465068
Ah you misunderstod/I didn't explain myself properly. I want a fifth yellow chaos god so the primary colour wheel is covered. This has no relations to the dumb and bad Valdor plot line
Anonymous No.96465084
>>96465073
>he didn't read about the mention of Kweethul Gristlegut, implying chaos is multiversal

Substantial portions of The End and The Death are pulled directly from the original Realms of Chaos books, anon.
Anonymous No.96465086
>>96465082
>I want a fifth yellow chaos god so the primary colour wheel is covered
Based
Anonymous No.96465099 >>96465125
>>96465082
>so the primary colour wheel is covered
unfortunately for you, colors don't work like that and slaanesh already throw everything out of whack in that sense anyway.
Anonymous No.96465116
>>96465082
I remember in the 50k fanfic when the Emperor was made a chaos god and given a yellow color palette. Ah, good times, before the coming of 8th and capeshit slop.
Anonymous No.96465123
This "lore" shit is sad.
Anonymous No.96465125 >>96465156 >>96465170 >>96465205
>>96465099
>unfortunately for you, colors (sic) don't work like
Fuck off yes they do, we have blue, red, green and purple/pink. Yellow and orange are the most notable other colours we're missing. Khorne is also kinda orange since hes big into brass/bronze so thats leaves yellow. I want a yellow chaos god
Anonymous No.96465129 >>96465187
>lorefags
Anonymous No.96465140
I love reading Lore arguments, screw the haters.
Anonymous No.96465156
>>96465125
Anon you are not getting a piss god
Anonymous No.96465167 >>96465216
>>96465073
40k happens then WHFB happens then AoS happens
Slaanesh is born in 40k
Horned Rat is a later joiner
Leman Russ is Ulric
Anonymous No.96465170 >>96465212 >>96465236
>>96465125
Have you once considered that the Dark King could be yellow, considering that the other chaos gods are described as "dark" despite not literally being colored black?
Anonymous No.96465187 >>96465203
>>96465129
>compfags
Anonymous No.96465203 >>96465301
>>96465187
My games look cooler than that dweebos
Anonymous No.96465205 >>96465236
>>96465125
>Fuck off yes they do
No, they don't
You cannot balance the chaos gods on a color wheel, most traditional colour wheels don't even properly represent the distribution of colours on the visible spectrum
Anonymous No.96465212 >>96465244
>>96465170
>Have you once considered that the Dark King
Dark King is a nothingburger plot point from a nothingburger book series that went nowhere.
Anonymous No.96465216 >>96465237
>>96465167
No, fantasy happens 60 millions years before 40k because in there the old ones have disappeared only 10k years prior, while they disappeared in 40k 60 millions years ago.

>that's dumb
correct, the real answer is time travel
Anonymous No.96465224
You know, it would make the most sense if Khorne, Nurgle, and Tzeench actually ARE the great old ones who were changed by the turmoil in the warp from the War in Heaven and Slaanesh's ascension was just another of them rising up from their first creation.
Anonymous No.96465236 >>96465319
>>96465205
Don't bring science, fact, logic and reason to my fluff for little figures I war with anon.
>>96465170
Sure and the Emperors love of gold could be a fun version of a yellow chaos gods 'yellow' colouring. A tarnished golden realm with golden armoured demons like custodes/ SoS etc. However the Emperor is explicity not a chaos god because the setting wouldnt work if he was. I want a fifth yellow chaos god on par with the big 4
Anonymous No.96465237 >>96465268
>>96465216
>implying they're the same old ones
Anonymous No.96465244 >>96465317
>>96465212
Did you forget that the name of the Chaos God changed from the Dark King into the Despoiler?
Anonymous No.96465250 >>96465255 >>96465284
What are the chances that Necrons get a Christmas Battleforce when they got one in 2024? GW seems to like them, no?
Anonymous No.96465255 >>96465271
>>96465250
Tau are supposedly the token xenos for Christmas
Anonymous No.96465268
>>96465237
They're explicitly the same old ones
Anonymous No.96465271
>>96465255
Didn't they get one last year too?
Anonymous No.96465284
>>96465250
According to rumour we have
>SM
>Nidzilla
>Farsight Tau
>CSM
Last one could be EC or Necron. Place your bet.
Anonymous No.96465287
I think gsc might be due for a Christmas box
Anonymous No.96465289
>IF detachment isn't bad Anvil
> It's bad 1st company taskforce
Kek
Anonymous No.96465301 >>96465350 >>96465375
>>96465203
Anon...
Anonymous No.96465306
>>96463330
Anonymous No.96465309 >>96465326
>lorefags
Anonymous No.96465317 >>96465348
>>96465244
>GW retconning shit means it means something
It's a nothingburger and always will be. Just like Ynnead.
Anonymous No.96465319
>>96465236
>it wouldn't work if he was

Why not? All that's required of him to keep the setting working is for his corpse to stay on the Golden Throne acting as a psychic lighthouse battery.
Anonymous No.96465326 >>96465345 >>96465447
>>96465309
>compfags
Anonymous No.96465345
>>96465326
>when taufags jump over to IK
Disgusting....
Anonymous No.96465348
>>96465317
It's from within the same novel!
It's not retconning if its from the same book!
Anonymous No.96465350
>>96465301
Its using cover to avoid enemy attacks you know...one of the most basic military defensive tactics known to history.
Anonymous No.96465375 >>96465387
>>96465301
It probably has indirect fire or some shit
Anonymous No.96465377 >>96465385 >>96465450
Can't wait to upgrade my boy
Anonymous No.96465385 >>96465424
>>96465377
>Can't wait to upgrade my boy
2026
Anonymous No.96465387
>>96465375
That would need to be extremely short ranged indirect fire.
Anonymous No.96465424
>>96465385
prob early next year
Anonymous No.96465446 >>96465480
>>96463793
Not yours, you've already admitted to having no models during your t-sports spam tirades
Anonymous No.96465447
>>96465326
Is this some sort of time limited build and play random tourney? I don't actually believe someone or multiple people would bring unfinished models like that to a real game.
Anonymous No.96465450
>>96465377
>nightbringer is making a onions face
>deciever is making a chad handsome grin
it's obvious which c'tan is reddit
Anonymous No.96465480 >>96465505
>>96465446
>replying to 4 hour old bait
for what purpose
Anonymous No.96465505 >>96465513
>>96465480
Sorry officer, can you let me off with a warning?
Anonymous No.96465513 >>96465526 >>96465532
>>96465505
No, you have to post a miniature you painted as penance
Anonymous No.96465519 >>96465764
PSA: I'm shitting.
Anonymous No.96465526 >>96465531 >>96465539 >>96465687 >>96465714
>>96465513
It would be an honor
Anonymous No.96465531
>>96465526
fuck, I walked right into that
Anonymous No.96465532 >>96465542 >>96465553
>>96465513
I'm not the mutant, ignore that other post
Anonymous No.96465539
>>96465526
Anonymous No.96465542
>>96465532
Much too late my sweet child of chaos
Anonymous No.96465553 >>96465591 >>96465601
>>96465532
well, where's your mini then
Anonymous No.96465591
>>96465553
>Crickets
Anonymous No.96465601 >>96465604 >>96465612 >>96465633 >>96465637 >>96465687
>>96465553
Anonymous No.96465604 >>96465614
>>96465601
>No paint on thumbnail
Anonymous No.96465612
>>96465601
Nice dude so far. All right mister, you're free to go.
Anonymous No.96465614 >>96465631
>>96465604
Ah, you're just seething about everybody calling you a retard for thinking nobody but slobs wipe off excess paint on their hands
Again
Anonymous No.96465631 >>96465841
>>96465614
>Mold line on sword hilt
Grim
Anonymous No.96465633 >>96465841
>>96465601
Nice paint job but that mold line on the hilt is very noticeable.
Anonymous No.96465637 >>96465680
>>96465601
I need a finer paint brush so I can paint leather like that
Anonymous No.96465680
>>96465637
I use a size 2 for my scratches, it holds a great point and you can load it with paint without it spilling out of control
Anonymous No.96465687 >>96465688
>>96465526
Damn that is a huge commitment but great job. Where do you get the different heads for your Knights?
>>96465601
Quality work anon and no one can see that mold line from any distance.
Anonymous No.96465688
>>96465687
ty, they are from Iron Wolf Minis
Anonymous No.96465714 >>96465859
>>96465526
Anonymous No.96465757
>>96465753
>>96465753
>>96465753
Anonymous No.96465764
>>96465519
yes in this thread with each and every one of your posts
Anonymous No.96465766
How do you transport stuff? I'm getting back into 40k with a 1k heavy assaut marine army that has 26 models. All of the options i've tried so far are too small and everything else just jumps in size, can't stand magnets. I could just go back to the old towel in a tupaweat box, but I'd rather not
Anonymous No.96465841
>>96465631
>>96465633
Nobody cares bwo
Anonymous No.96465859
>>96465714
Faggot
Anonymous No.96468396
>>96463726
this makes me wana dig through my old sprues to find those scopes and put them on my blue option builds, lol