Rocking Boat edition

>Last Thread: >>2803593

>What is this thread? Why are there two companies?
Disney parks were initially founded as a way to celebrate the culture and history of America and provide middle class families with a fun-filled immersive experience. While theme parks are the main focus of these threads (and the title of the general) there is also discussion on other roller coasters & rides, as well as the parks themselves and trip planning too. That's where /rcg/ comes in.
>Can I talk about Disney/Universal parks in this thread?
Absolutely! Disney and Universal are currently competing for the Orlando theme park market and beyond! Universal is opening new resorts all around the US and new continents!

Park Crowd Tracker:
>https://queue-times.com/en-US/parks

Roller Coaster Database:
>https://rcdb.com/

Amusement Park News Sites:
>https://www.themeparkinsider.com/
>https://www.screamscape.com/
>https://www.coaster101.com/

Disney Park News:
>https://www.wdwnt.com/
>https://www.wdwmagic.com/
>https://www.allears.net
>https://www.mousesteps.com

Universal Park News:
>https://www.insideuniversal.net

Is there any value to visiting a theme park as a family if there are no actual kids in the family?

My mom wants to go on a family vacation next year, so I asked her to make a list of her Top 10 places she wants to visit. Every location in her Top 10 just so happens to have a major theme park.

Of course, we have the option of not going to a theme park at all, but since there's a high likelihood we're going to a major theme park's location, should we just go for it?

Less then a month until d23
Figment revamp WILL happen this year

>>2808947
Depends on the park. What are the locations you're considering?

>>2808947
Yes, I loved going to Disney with my parents this year. Of course make sure whoever’s there will actually be interested in whatever theme park you do.

>>2808949
I think they'll be forced to announce another big development or two because they've lost so much good will and apparently attendance is down significantly. I'm just hoping for a SSE update in the near future (yes I know it's about to get a minor refurb). Also, add more slides to Typhoon Lagoon you cowards

>>2808947
At this point theme parks pander to adults more than kids

>>2808949
You mean a hastily assembled concept art package that is never delivered upon?

I went to Hong Kong Disneyland. Was pretty rad.

>>2809005
Get the Fell For It Again medallions ready

A riddler attraction where they give you riddles that you have to solve. And they're really really really hard. Only one theme park guest has ever solved them, me.

A scooby doo ride where the paintings have eyes cut out and the eyes follow you. And you can poke them and they are actually buttons and they say ow.

>>2809018
Tell us more

>>2808947
Do it. They're memories you'll be glad to have later on.

Just be wary of pure coaster parks where 1 or both the parents may have little to ride.

>>2808949
It isn't a major year this year so I can't imagine many big announcements. The expansions turning into a third gate at Anaheim seems like it's going to happen but Disney would be hyping the fuck out of a new park announcement.

Epcot seems likely for announcements, prime candidates being Spaceship Earth, Figment and Mary Poppins (the UK pavillion has got much more popular since I first visited, possibly coinciding with the increase in popularity of Fish & Chips and another kid friendly ride to spread queues throughout the countries is needed).

That presentation of the Magic Kingdom and Disney Studios changes makes me think there won't be anything to show there. Possibly some details about the Encanto Ride (hoping for Mickey's Railroad tech)

Paris has a (at the moment fairly mid) expansion opening next year to hype, Lion King land to expand on and the rumours of a Star Wars coaster in the castle park, possibly also the next project for Adventure World

If anyone wants a detailed but not especially padded over-view of the Universal UK plans, this is a good video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wak-AUBKR1M

Couple of things I missed: they're building some sound stages with HHN in mind. There's also hidden in there what looks to be a side profile for what could be a Jurassic Park (or maybe Wicked) coaster at 11:05. The layout remains really weird, weird huge figure 8 half loop/turn but otherwise a very smooth layout, I'm increasingly of the view that it's not going have standard cars, it'll either be riding or stand up.

>>2808947
I went Orlando last year with my parents, my gf, my sister and her fella. Parents are in their 50s and were all early 20s. We went to all the parks in Orlando apart from the water parks. We had a good time, I'd say its definitely worth it.

>>2809005
The only reason the 2018-2020 stuff got canned is because covid closed the parks for months to in some cases a year and they had no income for awhile, so the budget had to be taken from that to keep paying employees and making things stable
Everything they announce from 2022 onward will and is happening unless the parks close again or WWIII happens

>>2808947
Is your Mom me? How did you find this site

>>2809074
I hate liberals so much

>>2809062
Why didn't Disney ever build a park in the UK?

>>2809095
Covid closures were under trump but you do you

>>2809096
They considered it but decided against it and went with Paris allegedly

Apparently the reasons were:
>weather (Paris on paper is only slightly better but isn't quite as grey)
>Paris being a road drive from so many countries
>Paris is more Glamourous, Eisner's wife liked shopping in Paris (yes that was a reason), people could do day trips to Paris whilst staying at the hotels

Didn't account for:
>The Fr*nch being the Fr*nch
>No one is going to travel from Marne La Vallee to Paris for a day trip whilst spending stupid money on a Disney Hotel
>Most of Europe isn't as big on theme parks as the UK is

Both Universal and Disney were looking at sites around Dartford in the 90s (Thames Estuary area, close to where The London Resort was never going to be built) . Universal got spooked by the prospect of being Greater-Crested-Newted (lots of protected marshland around there) and bought Port Aventura in Spain instead (and then sold it again after getting cold feet on it)

Im honestly surprised Universal is going ahead with the UK park and I'm not sure if it will even succeed. Our weather is fuckin wank and I'd still rather go Orlando than down south for coasters

>>2809118
Orlando will cost you £6K

A weekend in Bedford will cost you £400

>>2809120
yeah but i gotta go to fuckin bedford mate

>>2809118
I keep meeting and reading about tons of bongs that have been to Orlando many times in their short lives. No way that’s a cheap trip so it must only be the upper class ones doing it. This lets the lower class bongs have a shot.

I do not care for Velocicoaster.

>>2809128
I dunno, we went when I was a kid and we certainly weren't middle class. Think my mum and dad just saved like mad cunts and we didn't go on a proper holiday for a few years. We also got lucky on GBP/USD conversion because of the financial crisis. When I was a teenager my family were much better off though but I think it was way more expensive than it used to be. Maybe I'm wrong but most people see a trip to Orlando as a holiday first and a theme park trip second. A trip to bedford is hardly a holiday. I'll probably be proven wrong and it will be a massive success.

>>2809128
Orlando is THE holiday you save for as a Brit. You go through a couple of years as Benidorm or Butlins as your big holiday whilst saving for it. That said, it's only in recent years where the costs have become really eye watering. Before Avatar opened I was able to book a holiday for two for about £1600 for two weeks including all tickets, now that would cost £3500+

>>2809134
As a Floridian, the thought of people yearning for Orlando is extremely amusing to me. If you wanna visit the US, go to the Grand Canyon or Hawaii.

>>2809131
There are three socioeconomic classes in the US and bongland is probably the same: 1. never goes to Disney 2. goes to Disney once 3. goes to Disney every year. You were in class 2 so not the one I mentioned. What I’m talking about are the bongs who went to Disney so many times they say they “grew up” doing it.
>most people see a trip to Orlando as a holiday first and a theme park trip second
What is there to do in Orlando that isn’t a theme park? I’m gonna guess you mean other places in Florida during the same trip.
>>2809135
I mean I get it. There’s no other city like it for theme parks and only LA comes close.
>Grand Canyon
Overrated I think. Moab is much better for the combination of Canyonlands (already better) and Arches.
>Hawaii
Yep that’s about as good as it gets.

>>2809142
>What is there to do in Orlando that isn’t a theme park? I’m gonna guess you mean other places in Florida during the same trip
I dont really know what I meant desu I was going purely off how I've felt going. My family arent particularly into theme parks, our local is Alton Towers and I think weve been maybe twice. It always felt like a holiday that happened to be at theme parks, i know that sounds retarded but like I said im going off pure feeling kek

>>2809149
Well what else did you guys do there?

>>2809164
Kennedy Space Center is not far as well as some of the best beaches in the world. Coastal small towns with great restaurants are everywhere. Orlando is a ghetto outside of the theme parks.

>>2809171
That’s what I figured. By Orlando you mean central Florida which makes a lot more sense. Also explains why you’d still prefer Orlando to Bongland Universal.

>>2809171
Southwest Orlando: elite tier
Everywhere else: mid to shit tier

Post
>number of credits you have
>how many 10/10s you’ve given (optional: which rides)

Teenage girls and latina moms are like "Yep, time to pick out my outfit for the theme park full of dads"

>>2809206
I don’t count “credits”. I don’t ride coasters just for the credit. I don’t ride kiddy coasters unless my kids ask me to ride them. I’ve probably been on over 100 coasters though.
10/10s? Steel Vengeance, Iron Gwazi, Fury 325, Millennium Force, Maverick, Hagrid’s (VC was closed the only time I’ve been there in the last few years), Diamondback and Mako, Outlaw Run, and Top Thrill 2 the one non-rattling ride I had on it was amazing. Not in any order but Steel Vengeance and Iron Gwazi are the two best coasters I’ve been on

>>2809223
It’s just the faggy way thoosies say “I have ridden this many roller coasters”. I don’t think they actually think people are crediting them with anything.

>>2809223
How much of a step up in intensity is Iron Gwazi and Steve from the others?

>Steve
>Millie
>Maggie
Gay tryhard shit

>>2809223
Forgot El Toro. Also a 10/10
>>2809232
From the ones I listed, IMO they’re all in the same class except Hagrid’s which would lean more toward family coaster (but it has 7 launches and the devil’s snare part). Iron Gwazi is more intense than Steel Vengeance but Steel Vengeance is the better ride IMO because of that and because it’s longer. Outlaw Run is much shorter but has similar elements and feels more organic and rough because of the wood. TT2’s speed and the forces going backwards and then up and over the twists in the top hat are pretty intense too. Maverick’s strong airtime and whipiness are intense. I don’t think one would need to step up from Mako or Fury to IG or SV

>>2809206
108
Pantheon, Apollo’s Chariot, Diamondback, Hagrid’s, Phoenix

>>2809210
I swear women just use "its hot outside" as an excuse to be naked
Bless the big booty latinas who wore tennis skirts in front of me on Tron though

>ACK!

>>2808955
The thing is they already shot their shot. That is Tropics Americas, Monsters, Cars, and Villains. That is a huge amount of big projects that wont solve immediate issues from economy and less international travel, but long run will drive more interest and sales. Even if they announced any big project right now it would be 5 years off and the issues might be solved. They cant announce big things to fix the next several years and might even make people stall trips, so I do not think they announce big projects to get out of an economic drought period
More important is losing River and Muppets pissed off the whales a lot and it is not good to piss off your big fans who spend frequently with you, especially if Epic is opened. That to means the Imagination break glass in case of emergency criteria has finally be met, the same way Epic got them to finally do the door coaster and villains

>Asia
>3111 steel coasters
>24 woodies

>Yurope
>1490 steel
>38 wood

>South America
>195 steel
>1 wood

Why aren’t woodies embraced outside of North America?

>>2809286
I said it in the last thread, I'm convinced they'll announce one big super secret reveal that's essentially just a blue sky concept to create some more buzz/positive PR. Whether or not it gets built will be a different story. I think SSE reimagining announcement is likely, Figment updates/redo, bringing back the Mary Poppins ride they announced 6 years ago, and my real wildcard is the Lion King boat ride to AK AND a drone show.
I'm weirdly excited for D23 this year just because Disney has done such a bad job and destroyed so much good will that I'm curious to see if they continue to tank their credibility further or realize their retardation and start slowly fixing things.

>>2809287
Aren’t they more of an American thing to begin with? They’re also a pain to maintain and need constant retracking. Among other reasons. Lots of woodies here getting Titan Track or 208 ReTraK. If not converted into hybrids.

>>2809289
d23 is kind of funny because it has turned into guessing what ride is being replaced they have not announced as closing, or if they got lucky and found an expansion
That is kind of the issue with them too, now it is too much pessimism expecting a closed classic attraction if something interesting is announced, a good too to be true moment

>>2809290
>They’re also a pain to maintain and need constant retracking.
Parks propagate this myth that they're soooo hard to maintain. Lumber is not hard to maintain, it is easier and cheaper to work with than steel and more forgiving too. But it does take dedicated labor (carpenters) and time, and labor + time is money, and if parks can avoid adding full time personnel, they will.

The wood coasters that are truly hard to maintain were those giant woodies from the 90s like Mean Streak and Son of Beast. Above a certain height it becomes pointless to use wood, parks found that out the hard way. New wood coasters are pretty rare these days too and I don't think we'll ever see a park try to go above about 130 feet on a new build for that reason. (The steel tracked coasters like RMC are a completely different story.)

>>2809294
I also think the 60+ mph woodies are too fast (not counting the topper track RMCs with their cement tracks and lots of steel supports). And anything over 130ft is going to be in that speed range. The ending helix of The Beast is like 65mph making it very rough and feeling like it will derail

>>2809287
humidity

>>2809287
>Why aren’t woodies embraced outside of North America?
Early on nearly all of the expertise to build them was located in the US and many parts of the world didn't build amusement parks (as we think of them) until after the steel coaster had been introduced. In general wood coasters are on the decline and have been for a while.

>>2809313
>The ending helix of The Beast is like 65mph making it very rough and feeling like it will derail
Imo a curved drop is harder on wooden coasters than a straight drop. One of the problems with the Beast are those 4 bench trains. Essentially the vehicle is transferring the downward and lateral forces of 2 four-seater cars into one. So all that force will go into the track at fewer points, producing more force on the track wherever the wheels are.

Personally I wish they'd have put some Millennium Flyers on it, having a wheel/guide/upstop under each row spreads all those forces out on the track. The tradeoff is a little more friction but on The Beast they've always run it kind of slow anyway (for maintenance cost savings). That would have been an expensive change though.

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>>2804048
I should and want to, but I'm more of a drawer than a video man. I'd be editing it in movie maker lol. but I have Ideas:
>I've wanted to talk about how Tiana fails and splash succeeding at storytelling
As a gamer, >I want to discuss the open world aspects of the parks, ala https://youtu.be/l4cxstiC5LY?si=P_nwD2oQprztILQC [Embed]
Guests need yellow paint
>Proposing 3 Sonic the Hedgehog attractions
My autism might scare the hoes
>A whole ass review and analysis of Disneyland
Now that's a far off project, I'd probably do USH and Knott's first.
>'Fixing' Tomorrowland
>Proposing/armchairing my own Disney Park
>Proper Visual Storytelling in themed parks.
I'd like to share these Ideas but I am fearing the consequences.
>>2804298
>Just overall I find myself missing someone to bounce off of especially in queues which are boring af and I don't wanna sit on my phone.
Me and my sibling are assholes so we usually make fun of the park, analyze the park, laugh at the freaks at the park, make in-jokes. Awesome stuff.
If I was alone I'd probably assault someone.
>>2804639
new bad, old good. shrimple as that.
>>2805353
I care about sightlines, but I also don't mind if the whole world looks nice together, It's shrimple art and design guys.
>>2808340
Never understood the idea of credits, I'm more of a park 103% completion guy

>>2809331
>In general wood coasters are on the decline and have been for a while.
My dad said that 20 years ago but look at all the great woodies we’ve gotten since then.

Zimmerman is out at Six Flags
https://ca.investing.com/news/company-news/six-flags-ceo-richard-zimmerman-to-step-down-by-end-of-2025-93CH-4139088

>>2809206
>Credits: A lot, but not as many as autists who actually count that shit.
>10/10s for varying reasons: Eejanaika, Fujiyama, Velocicoaster, Expedition Everest, the Mummy.

Disney earnings call was this morning. They made gorillions somehow. It's over.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/06/disney-dis-earnings-q3-2025.html

>>2809441
>increase in guest spending.

No shit the parks are way pricier now for everything.

>>2809452
They will learn the wrong lesson on everything lmao

>>2809289
Can't see Lion King coming to AK as it's way too close to Splash Mountain. They layout isn't the same but it's close enough that it'd be weirdly close.

They'd be better revisiting one of the Moana concepts.

>>2809287
Weather and height restrictions. Once steel took over they plummeted in popularity. The majority of Wooden coasters in the UK for example are historical ones.

>>2809320
>humidity
>>2809462
>Weather
Really doesn't have anything to do with it

>>2809460
They have 4 omnimovers at WDW, I don't think they care about that

>>2809441
Disney has too big of a moat to really be challenged in the entertainment space.

>>2809441
Disneyland/World seriously was the best decision Disney ever made, probably the best decision any entertainment company ever made. Not even international tourists cancelling is stopping steady attendance
That also means they better not skimp out on renovating the place

>>2808944 (OP)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8y0hC4FH-aY

>>2809485
Wtf is it with caring about fuckin internationals and what they do

>>2809489
Internationals usually pay more each trip and are numbers overall, financially they care if there is a downturn
We don’t care because we want to see less of them

>>2809441
>stock down 2.35% today
IT’S JOEVER

>>2809485
It’s the only consistent money. Ratings and box office will rise and fall, but there will always be good weather in Anaheim and Orlando.

>>2809343
I don't understand why but the difference between going alone and going with at least one person is huge. It is VERY depressing to go alone.

>>2809492
I don't like internationals and don't want our parks catering to them. I do like UK and other similar cultures.

>>2809441

>>2809441
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>>2808944 (OP)
To me one of the saddest things in the world was the liberal takeover of Disney. Its a wonderful wholesome all American place. And the liberals couldn't destroy it's joy so they made it theirs.

>>2809210
Are there really that many illegals? Last I checked which was over a decade ago, it was still white. One of the last public places that was still white.

>>2809506
I'm going to have to find a way of getting used to going places on my own. My first experiment with the most minor of trips alone did not go well. Has to get easier I suppose.

>>2809497
I really can't understand the stock situation and I might slurp the dip. Their numbers look good and if they ever start making decent movies again they'll be even better. The only thing I can think of is they've spent a retarded amount on ESPN/sports/WWE etc and they seem to have no real plan there.

>>2809510
Is this the same poll which ranked Fun Spot above USF, which was also ranked above Disneyland?

>>2809513
>illegals
Not too many in the parks, but their grown mexican children let in during the Reagan years have ethnically converted Anaheim to basically Mexico. Florida is full of similar mexicans but also tons and tons of south american international tourists

>>2808944 (OP)
Yall when are these kids going to be tucked away in their indoctrination jails already

>>2809528
Ohh I was talking about Magic Kingdom. The big plague in Florida is Puerto Ricans.

>>2809517
You should get a seasonal job, make a few friends, and go with them. They get in free. I used to try to go alone and it would make me suicidal. Going with people is seriously therapy and the best time you'll have on this planet till Jesus comes back.

>>2809527
I got it from a relative who hates Disney but loves boring shit. They scoff at anything that isn't down home and natural. For example, they hate ALL Sci Fi.

>>2809511
>dollywood is antiwoke!!!
do these braindead subhuman boomers not know who dolly parton is

>>2809537
funny how every time i go to wdw i see countless girls hotter than sneedey

>>2809543
Dolly will say what the libs want to hear but she sings gospel and doesn't push it. She is also classy like a Conservative and not a loud mouthed bitch like liberals.

https://youtu.be/39HeMsu5yWU?feature=shared

>>2809543
Who cares at least she's white.

>>2808944 (OP)
When does school start in your district?

Did they fix the drop on Ministry yet? I know one of the Universal TMs for HPW posts here.

I need to know before I buy another ticket.

>>2809552
what was broken about the drop?

>>2809554
Supposedly the drop made the ride emergency shut-down too much so they took out the drop.

>>2809506
An element I think changes things is how familiar you are with the park. I’ve been to Universal and Disney both alone and with family and it’s definitely better with family. However I’ve been to half a dozen new parks alone this year and had a blast. Maybe because everything I was seeing was such a novelty that it was much better than I could take it all in and try everything I wanted and explore without distraction or getting sidetracked or having to worry about other people’s wants. If I went to those parks a second time it might be better to have someone there I could share them with.

>>2809274
I forgot about Phoenix. I think Phoenix is probably a 10/10 for me too. It’s smooth and full of airtime and the openness of the the train below your feet and the buzz bars make it stronger. Also Knoebels does a great job maintaining it. If you told me it was a new wooden coaster I would believe it. I rode it for the first time this year.

>>2809540
>I used to try to go alone and it would make me suicidal.
Normie problems. The only reason going places alone used to make me sad was because my I thought it made me a loser, that I needed to be with other people because… I just did okay??? This drove me to socialize more, I got into plenty of crowds and realize I didn’t like being with other people anyway. That voice that told me I can’t go places alone is silent now, and I much prefer being alone.

>>2809559
Which is amazing considering it’s older than the president.

>>2809525
it's plateaued for years now. any gains they make via the parks get offset by ESPN and D+

>>2809567
D+ is truly amazing. Disney used to release their films for home video in the most jewish way imaginable - extremely expensive VHS tapes released in limited quantities to fuel FOMO with that process repeating every few years. It made them so much money it’s unreal.

And today, by their own choices, they have the opposite problem. For like $15 a month you can view almost any Disney movie, including ones that came out very recently. It’s the most unjewish thing ever and it’s almost bankrupted them.

>>2809554
The ride uses a single seat belt strap across the waist similar to how Jimmy Fallon locks you in. Because of this, the ride has sensors all over the place to make sure a guest isn't falling out since the front of the ride vehicle is completely open and the ride vehicle is elevated quite a bit.

I was hoping they'd fix the drop, but it might end up like the extra dementors on FJ or original Jaws ride explosion ending. Too based for this world.

>it's another timtracker disney cruise arc
I would like to try a Disney cruise one day (i was trying to do one this year before my mom had a stroke), but I can't really imagine the appeal for theme park fans. It seems like a lot of the theme park adjacent experiences you could get on any of the disney ships could be had better on land. Also didn't disney cruise line basically create the fad of shoving a fucking bar into everything? I don't drink so it's laughable to me that bars are considered an activity.
I guess sometimes they have good stage shows?

>>2809574
Would you go on the disney cruise coaster?

>>2809576
you can bet it'd be a 60 minute wait all day every sea day

>>2809576
Not a cred!

Joking aside it's weird someone actually bought a mauer spike coaster. They've more models than actually sold coasters. Always looked a bit forceless, like a worse version of the Arrow powered mine trains.

On the subject of Disney Cruises, would like to try one but they're so fucking expensive, the haunted mansion bar on the new one looks neat. They're building something like 6 new ships hopefully they'll base one at southampton, would mind trying a weekend cruise as those are less eye watering

>>2809562
No, you don't get it. I am a huge loner. Why do you think I'm here? But when it comes specifically to going to Disney with all the happy couples, friends, family, kids...I get really depressed.

>>2809577
Capacity of what, 400 an hour on a ship that'll have 5500 passengers on average? It probably be a 20-30 minute wait, especially as I can see them limiting how many goes you get or charging for it.

Think the ship has another neat looking (but probably too short) water coaster too

>>2809562
Its hard for me to have fun there with no one to share it with. People also look at me like I'm a predator because I'm alone.

>>2809557
There is something about laughing with someone after being on a great ride.

>>2808944 (OP)
https://youtu.be/h5p5v_nVE6M?feature=shared
Am I right?

>>2809576

>>2809581
If you were really a loner you wouldn’t, or at least shouldn’t, desire the situations of those people. For me the sleep alone is almost reason enough to stay single. I already have a difficult time with sleep. Light noise wake me up. And if I don’t sleep well I don’t feel well. Sharing a room and bed with someone else every night forever sounds extremely risky at the very least. And if I somehow got used to it? Then kids would ruin it all over again. And of course I would never really be alone again if I was married, certainly if I had kids. And managing my own stress takes a lot. You’re telling me I have to be responsible for my wife and kids as well as myself?

I’m not saying I don’t sometimes want the highlight reels of families and couples, such as Disney trips. I’m thankful to be able to be uncle to my brother and sister’s kids, and that’s really all I need to get my fill there.

For friends, it’s just been a while since I’ve known someone non-family I really like spending time with. I see what normies do and talk about with their friends. I’m not interested. So I don’t wish to have friends either.

Now do I wish I had the mindset of someone who DID want a wife, kids, and friends? I mean, sure. I wish a lot of things. But I also know, even being a loner, I’m better off than most people in the world today, and if you throw in all the past years in history I could have been born into with their own wars, famines, lack of modern medicine, lack of roller coasters, it could have been much, much worse than having the life I actually do.

Fuck, anon, 1 in 5 people have to live in India, and all you have to do is go to a theme park alone.

Rumor is going around that this is the final year for Peanuts at former Cedar Fair Parks. The license expires at the end of 2025 (see https://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/202407/10328/) and while they have a 5 year renewal option the bad state of the chain means they likely wont take it. 40% off Peanuts merchandise sales are going on at Kings Island and there has been some reports they even brought in some Looney Tunes merch at the shops
Expect a quick retheme of all the Camp/Planet Snoopy themed areas to Looney Tunes (or even just generic kids areas) over the offseason.

>>2809595
Bringing the Peanuts characters into the fold with the WB properties was one of the selling points of the merger to investors and they've just invested in updates to Camp Snoopys at several parks.

>>2809574
If you have kids and aren't poor they're perfect. If you go as a creepy single adult you're going to have a miserable time unless you're a majorly hardcore Disney autist

>>2809567
They make money on streaming now

>>2809598
>Bringing the Peanuts characters into the fold with the WB properties was one of the selling points of the merger
Execs lie and plans change, not a surprise
This was actually similar to when Cedar Fair bought Paramount parks and planned to keep Nickelodeon for a few years too. They also updated some of them a year before they were removed
>They've just invested in updates to Camp Snoopys at several parks.
And the same as above, they also made a huge update to Six Flags America and are shutting it down lol

>>2809606
I hope Knott's keeps some semblance given it's history with Schultz himself.

>>2809595
This is just deceptive headline clickbait. The contract expires and is renewed all the time. Possibly every year, I forget but it’s a really short interval. This isn’t a rumor, it’s speculation based on the expiration. The rumor making the rounds says the opposite, that they are most likely putting in a Peanuts-themed kids area next year for SFGA in Gurnee, IL and possibly ditching Looney Tunes. They have a licensing agreement to use Looney Tunes until 2053 but it still involves royalties. I don’t think they’ll drop them either since I’m pretty sure it’s tied to WB and DC and they don’t have the budget to retheme everything for any of these IPs. But Snoopy especially has been super popular for about 3 years, more popular than he’s been in decades. Part of this is the Apple TV+ shows but the other part is Gen Z and Alpha liking Snoopy. Looney Tunes hasn’t been as successful despite attempts like that space jam bomb. Guarantee Peanuts makes them a lot of money in merchandise too, all the legacy CF parks have a Peanuts store

>>2809587
AK to C. I’m not sure if I could put Epcot above MK, although if I returned I would certainly spend the most time there, and Guardians is probably the best ride in the resort. I just know it would take a lot longer to do everything there while you could ride everything at MK in a day and a half.

>>2809460
I am so annoyed as fuck with this company somehow not getting their climates
They wont give AK the log flume (apparently saying if LK will come to AK it wont be the log flume) despite how it fits Florida weather and would cement it as a day park, but give it to Paris where it is freezing half the time.
Meanwhile they give Florida the no shade Toy Story Hellscape land
This company is really bad at making rides adapting to each locations climate, they think everywhere is California

>>2809628
If they didn't limit the Looney Tunes to kids area's it'd be more successful. The next gen already like them

>>2809642
SFGAdv and SFGA (and probably others) use the IP throughout the parks. Sometimes poorly thought out. But the only themed rides with them I can think of are kids rides. Character meet and greets are near entrances and scattered throughout the parks. I don’t think they’re getting rid of any of these three IPs and if they did some other parks would pick them up. Possibly even Universal, they have Snoopy’s theme park rights in Japan. And once upon a time they were interested in both DC and Looney Tunes plus have good relations with WB

>>2809595
40% off sale is a clearance section, Cedar Point has the same selection of merch as KI on a small wall in their Peanuts store for 40% off. I wouldn’t read into that too much. The additional parks might be making negotiating a contract renewal a little different this round though.

>>2809628
>and they don’t have the budget to retheme everything for any of these IPs
They won't retheme them, they'll detheme them like Intimidator 305 and Top Gun. They'll pluck out those Batmobiles and take down the Batman signage. Change the name, of course. Do a little landscaping and maybe some paint here and there. For a lot of Superman rides they'll just have to remove some signs and rename them. It's cheaper to detheme than it is to renew the contract. I don't see them letting go of DC, but Looney Tunes as a whole seems to have flatlined.

>>2809601
Take that with a pinch of salt. They've been moving costs from Disney+ to other departments (especially the theatrical side of things) to hide losses since it was created

>>2809670
They’re not going to detheme all the new snoopy rides at Carowinds, Kings Island, and Knott’s. Or any of the rides for these 3 IPs. Yes they did it before but it still costs a lot of money. It’s not equivalent to putting a little money into SFA and then deciding to close it.

The investor call yesterday said Cedar Point, Kings Island, Canada’s Wonderland, Knott’s and Kings Dominion were the highest earning parks in the combined chain. The highest earning Six Flags park is MM and it’s below all these. This is not a merger of equals, it’s Cedar Fair picking up a lot of trash that they didn’t need. I just don’t see them spreading around that trash to their legacy parks. Looney Tunes isn’t even in every SF park, Snoopy is in more parks than Looney Tunes. Anyways, this seems to be fake news from Theme Park Brandon that got picked up by Don Helbig for some reason. Apparently they already renewed a contract or something like that.

>>2809628
The one issue is this company is in a nosedive right now. They aren’t really in the position to keep both licenses if they have to do this massive of cuts. Looney Tunes comes with DC, and really you are choosing between LT/DC or Peanuts
And Peanuts is simply the easier thing to remove. The LT/DC contract is until 2053, and while it is more costly and unfavorable terms it is harder to get out of (if someone like Universal would pay them to get out of it they’d gladly take it), while Peanuts expires every 5 years and simply not renewing is the easiest way to get out of it
LT/DC is also more baked into the parks and far harder and costly to remove. With Peanuts they just have to remove portions of the smaller kids area and make it a more generic space/camp theme.
It would go more for circumstances then anything

>>2809796
*And Carowinds, Cedar Point, Kings Islams, Canada’s Wonderland, Carowinds, Knott’s and Kings Dominion are the highest earners. In other words, Cedar Point plus all the legacy Paramount Parks minus CGA outearn every legacy SF park. Which we should already know considering CF’s parks made more money the past couple years than all the SF parks (despite SF having more parks)

>>2809797
It’s not moving, the source is Theme Park Brandon. Unless you think he’s more reliable than a stopped clock. It’s sad that Don Helbig picked it up from him.

>>2809796
I don’t think these are successful parks because they have Snoopy lol. They have had better investments and ran better under CF, and customers actually realize when parks are worth going to.
This is showing more just how badly managed Six Flags parks were. There is no real excuses why Magic Mountain or Great Adventure isn’t outperforming any of them besides maybe Knott’s. Once the purge all the shitters from the chain they hopefully can get them in order

>>2809799
That it is being brought up outside that one clickbaiter leads me to think there’s a bit more going on there then just him as a reference
It’ll become obvious during fall season if they renewed or not, namely if nothing happens vs a very obvious sign

>>2809801
Haven't they literally just opened two Snoopy coasters with custom trains? That's not something you do if you suspect you're losing a licence

What exactly is “refurbished” about the RMC hybrids? Aren’t they completely new rides? Do they use the old pieces of wood or something?

>>2809801
That’s not what I meant, I mean you don’t Six Flagsatize your top earning parks. But replacing Snoopy with Looney Tunes at Knott’s would be blasphemy. Great Adventure and Magic Mountain could both use some official hotels. Especially Great Adventure (not counting the overpriced limited number of glamping sites). They’re all an hour plus from the population centers they are near which for me is no problem for a day trip but for a lot of people they prefer to overnight. Cedar Point draws from Cleveland, Toledo, and Detroit but has several official hotels in addition to all the other ones in the surrounding area. MM should be doing better since it’s year round but GAdv needs some work to be compared with Cedar Point or Kings Island again.

>>2809804
The article above is old. The only recent source I found is Theme Park Brandon basing it on a clearance section of Peanuts merchandise at KI. But they almost always have a clearance section there and at other stores. Former KI president Don Helbig also wrote about it in his blog but he seems to be repeating Theme Park Brandon. Those are making the rounds. Some on Reddit said the contract was already renewed so who knows.
>>2809809
Yes. And a water ride at Carowinds. And they expanded KI’s land and themed it to Camp Snoopy. And Knott’s expanded theirs. This would be way more expensive to detheme or retheme than whatever they lost from the money they put into theming SFA and plus they can use the Superman new trains elsewhere.

>>2809811
They re-use the wooden support structure. Steel Vengeance contains 80% of Mean Streak’s wooden structure. Iron Gwazi contains 40% of Gwazi’s though and is mostly new construction

>>2809796
>Yes they did it before but it still costs a lot of money
Not really

>>2809809
>Haven't they literally just opened two Snoopy coasters with custom trains? That's not something you do if you suspect you're losing a licence
In large organizations the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing most of the time. That's why they were adding a new themed land and rides to SFA right before the announcement came down it was closing.

At any rate a "custom" Snoopy train just means it has custom fiberglass molding on the train, that gets taken off and destroyed and new pieces get put on, the characters get removed, a new sign gets put up. That's not free but it's not going to cost the park that much, most of that work is done in-house.

>>2809811
>Aren’t they completely new rides?
To the park, its insurers, and the state, they're completely new rides.

>>2809819
You mean pieces of the old structure that have been moved around, or they literally designed the track to go through part of the old structure?

>>2809798
>Kings Islams
Inshallah Vortex shall get its replacement

>>2809837
RMC will come out to the park and use a LIDAR system to scan the existing ride into a 3D computer model. From there, designers will decide what the new ride will look like based on the existing one, what the park wants, and their budget.

After that's figured out, some contractors will come in and cut out the timber that won't be used. The old track is also cut up and removed at this time. Depending on what the new ride will be like, only a little will be cut off (often the lift hill stays about the same) or entire bents will be removed down to the footer. After that, new timber is added as needed. Then they add the track and begin testing.

The old timber that was removed gets discarded, they often just cut it out with chainsaws. Nothing you can do with it. When they open it's easy to tell the old timber from the new unless they painted the entire ride.

>>2809733
I think the whole point is they literally don't have to do that anymore. And either way they still made a huge profit this quarter.

>>2809842
Some of Gwazi’s wood was re-used to make Seaworld’s rescue gift shop. There is a sign there saying this. I think it also wound up somewhere else at Busch Gardens but I don’t remember

>>2809842
Seems very gimmicky. I’m not sure I understand the purpose. According to wikipedia, Gwazi had “declining ridership” and “developed a reputation for delivering a rough ride”, while Wildcat “gained a negative reputation for its increasing roughness.” Was there really so much equity in these apparently unpopular woodies that it was worth it to reuse the names? Or does using part of the old structure really save that much money?

>>2809853
>Or does using part of the old structure really save that much money?
The RMC conversions aren't "cheap" but they're cheaper than a new coaster, which is the alternative a park would have to pursue after tearing an old ride out. They've proven to be popular rides too.

>>2809853
Since they (usually) re-use the structure and footers (and the general course), the public perception is that it’s the same ride but better. Gwazi is a bit different because it was a dueling coaster and it was nowhere near as tall as Iron Gwazi. They only used about 40% of it and had to make new footers in some cases. You can see old footers they didn’t use. They also changed the theme from a made up mythical tiger and lion to a crocodile. So that was a bit weird. Meanwhile Steel Vengence reuses most of the structure and follows the same general course but they gave it a different name. For their first conversion, New Texas Giant it’s definitely a decision to say it’s an improved version of the old ride. Anyways as the other anon says it’s a lot cheaper than a new coaster. They also do their own work and provide the wood.

>>2809829
They literally just painted the fiberglass car of I305 into a panther rather than replacing it. That’s what they would do if they had to remove any of the theming right now.

Last week I finally went to Disneyland. I had already been to World, Tokyo, and Paris. Land really is the best Magic Kingdom style park. It makes World look like a bunch of retards for closing so much stuff to build new stuff despite all the land they have. DCA is kinda weak, but it being within walking distance makes up for that. Only have Hong Kong, Shanghai, and eventually Abu Dhabi if it really ends up being built. Also goddamn the American parks are expensive. Tokyo was only like $60 to get get in.

>>2809857
>>2809869
Makes sense, thanks for the explanation.

Not only do I mix up the SFGAs every time but I also mix up their best rides. I speak a good bit of Spanish so when I read Raging Bull and El Toro my mind thinks “bull”.

>>2809906
>Also goddamn the American parks are expensive
Low key it's to keep the "young kangz" out so I don't mind paying the additional $100 for a dindu free experience.

>>2809934
I get it since I grew up 45 min from Six Flags Great America (IL) and I remember that park becoming a nignog daycare. I just wish they would consider the fact that I paid nearly $200 bucks to get in when it came to buying something as simple as a soda. It is nice that they don't really give a shit about bringing stuff in. On my second day I brought in a couple monsters and some stuff from Porto's. Tokyo doesn't really either so when I went last year, my bag was filled with 7/11 onigiri.

>>2809937
Haven't tried bringing drinks in. I think Universal is pretty anal about that shit. I've thought about sneaking some liquor in to day drink at the park with one of these but don't want to risk being banned if their security shit can detect it.

>>2809938
Your best bet to avoid detection is to add the liquor to your drinks in the bathrooms.
>Bring liquor in plastic flask
>Buy soda or juice bottle
>Add liquor into bottle in bathroom stall
>Don't drink while cast members are around. (They might smell it)
In Japan I would just shot gun a couple strong zeros before going into Tokyo Disney or USJ. Drinks are cheap enough in those parks that I just buy them.

>>2809944
>TDS Food and Wine
I don't drink myself, but the presence of a bar on top of the cruise liner during this event was rad. My wife got a drink, and we just took a break up there for 20-30 minutes. Probably the best park to find spots to sit and relax in general.

>>2809937
Still nowhere near as many as Six Flags America (the one closing) or Over Georgia. The chaperone policy has impacted the daycare aspect at these parks, probably why SFOG’s attendance is way down. Gurnee is far enough from Chicago and nearly 80% white it could have been worse.

>>2809906
American average salary is more so the parks will cost more then in Japan, the prices reflect what locals would realistically afford and balanced itself
I heard that they are trying to balance number of attractions World and Land have so they are similar, so the Land parks seem more filled then World since it is 2 vs 4, at least until Land’s third gate or extension happens.
Also leads to the laughable scenario of World having all this land but only removing attractions to add new ones and rarely actually expanding

>>2809946
Yeah as far as being a THEME park, Disney Sea is the goat. I do feel like Fantasy Springs should have been a Disneyland area, but Tokyo has the excuse of being a peninsula so they have to make due with what they have. I went opening day and the crowds weren't bad at all. They only let you ride 1 of the new rides if you weren't staying at the new hotel, so that was a bit of a bummer. I ended up riding the new Peter Pan ride since Frozen got booked out before I could even get into the park.

>>2809951
>Disney Tokyo gets a great e-ticket and 3 decent dark rides in an amazing themed area
>Paris gets a clone of a mediocre 10 year old ride and two off the shelf flat rides

It's not fair.

I guess the Lion King Splash Mountain could be good and there's a very conspicuous space for another land in the expansion at least.

>>2809954
Paris is an odd ball. Disney just doesn't seem to care about it. I liked it, but I only did Disneyland back in '04. I didn't do their Hollywood Studios and looking back, I am so glad. Hollywood was the wrong choice. They should have copied Sea. I think both Europeans and non-European's would have liked it a lot more especially if they expanded the Mysterious Island and added more Verne stuff. On a side note does anybody know what USJ is going to do with the old Spider-Man ride and Back draft? I have been to USJ twice and my last trip was kinda shitty since
>No spider man
>No Backdraft
>Jaws was closed
>Jurassic Park was closed
>Space Fantasy was closed
>Terminator was closed
>Donkey Kong got delayed and wasn't open

>>2809938
>>2809944
You guys are too scared of park employees. The worst they'll do is make you take your liquor back to your car but I'm wondering how bad at sneaking stuff in you have to be to get caught.

>>2809938
>>2809944
you degenerates are ruining the parks. i've actually stopped going to epcot since the large groups of alcoholic normies weekend drinking, minorities causing general havoc and social media whores trying to get attention and none of these people care about the park at all. they just want to get drunk with their annoying as fuck friends and run and jump around the massive crowds in no shade subtropical temperatures while everyone is
>"look at me! i'm drinking alcohol and taking selfies in front of faux architecture in a half-assed corporate realization of the globalist wet dream world's fairs of yore. this place is a vibe and i'm so fun everyone, give me attention!"
and honestly if you're sneaking booze into the park to drink alone while you get on rides by yourself at a theme park for families you seriously need some self reflection or you're absolutely no better than >>2809934
>"young kangz"

>>2809961
Cool blogpost faggot. Why don't you shove it up your ass so it can be with the rest of your opinions?

I will drink at the park. I will be a charming bastard beloved by complete strangers. I will do my favorite rides blitzed out of my gourde and I will continue hating young black men. You will be a faggot every day for the rest of your life hating on other people for no reason other than your inability to enjoy yourself. FAGGOT!

>>2809951
I got in during rehearsals with the same restrictions. Got to do Peter Pan one day and Tangled the next (along with eating at the Peter restaurant). Missed out on Frozen by mere seconds in the second day. Just another reason to go back I suppose. I do think it's funny that, despite all the hype that land got, I wouldn't even place it in the top 3 lands at DisneySea.

>>2809960
Sneaking in alcohol is a trespassable offense. They might say you can’t bring that in but they might also ban you from Disney property (all of it, including hotels and Disney Springs). I’ve snuck in small liquor bottles when I was younger. And I wasn’t by myself, I did it because MK doesn’t really have alcohol (and still doesn’t unless you’re at a table service restaurant or the dessert fireworks thing). That was before these newer detectors but I doubt they’d pick up all plastic. People bring in vodka in “sealed” water bottles. If you have an infant or toddler you could sneak liquor in using baby bottles. I have not done that but I considered it. Nowadays I just take a gummy… if I even go back there

>>2809965
> I wouldn't even place it in the top 3 lands at DisneySea.
I agree. Even if the rides are a bit weak, the Arabian Coast is amazing to just walk around. American Water Front is the best in my opinion.

>>2809970
American Waterfront is also my number 1. Oddly enough, I think Arabian Coast was my least favorite. I think it just didn't have the same energy as the other areas and felt a little sterile. Still not a bad land, and if I had been able to go on Sinbad, it might have been bumped up one or two spots in the rankings.

What is the best ride while drunk

>>2809976
Pirates of the Caribbean.

>>2809969
>Sneaking in alcohol is a trespassable offense.
Again you are too scared of park employees

>>2809976
Being drunk doesn’t really enhance rides IMO. If you’re afraid of coasters it will make you less afraid. It helps at the Magic Kingdom and Epcot to make the boring stuff less boring and also makes lines feel quicker. Cannabis works way better at enhancing rides, especially coasters. Even dull coasters will feel better. But it has the opposite effect on lines, they can seem like they move slower.

>>2809956
Studios Paris exists solely to fulfill a contractual obligation they had to get a second gate at that resort by the early 2000s or else lose that land.
Hong Kong had a similar thing that Disney ended up letting expire so now that second park spot has been taken back by the Chinese government and turned into a housing development.

>>2809976
Fast and Furious Supercharged becomes the greatest ride of all time when you're drunk off your fucking ass. It was designed by drunk people and can only be appreciated in a similar state of mind.

>>2809574
I used to defend them when I thought they were a normal Florida family. That was before I realized Jenn is a huge libtard and he supports that behavior too.

>>2809956
Spider-Man is rumored to get a Pokemon-themed replacement. Backdraft has already been replaced with Minion Blast which opened last month

>>2810005
Damn. I was hoping they would have put something better there. Minions already took over BTTF, letting them take over another classic sucks. I did luck out since the first time I went to USJ, Space Fantasy was NGE themed. I would have loved it when it was Ring themed too.

>>2809998
cannabis would be good for some of the rides but the problem is you have to be around all those people to get on them.
i found out the hard way experimenting back in the 00s during my gap year between hs and college which was just one giant bender of taking drugs and going to random tourist places, thinking i was on some hunter s. thompson shit.
it was mostly either shrooms, weed or pills and sometimes lsd so nothing insane but my goal was to see if i could shift my own perception of memories through nostalgic things from my past.
i did this because near the end of my sr. year in hs i found a snes at a garage sale and it triggered me into this state of nostalgic regression where i remembered what it felt like to be happy again. i dropped my inhibitor meds and my depression went away, replaced by a combination of weed, psychedelics and doing things from my childhood.
so for disney most might pick a trip but i instead opted for a basic thc high. i was afraid of having a bad trip of induced psychosis with anything stronger, and i just wanted to feel good, not gain some introspective insight or something. so i checked in to the clarion inn near the main gate (now rosen inn) and the next morning i took about ten bong rips of dank og kush that i just got from my boy spottemgottem the night before.
(cont.)

>>2810016
i get to magic kingdom and instantly the crowds get to me, even though i wasn't even through the ticket center yet. i'm sweating even more profusely than normal in the florida sun. i make my way past security feeling extremely paranoid and i can already tell that they're suspicious and that a guy was following me to the ferry tracks in the sky. i get in line for space mountain and i start noticing every pair of mickey ears i see on every girl look more like donkey ears. i say yo man forget it go home to belle's hair. the pumpkin coach dropped me in front of it's a small world. a tiny cast member who i swore was a little pink pig guy escorted me off the monorail. life was suddenly like a hurricane here in duckbergenstein. after asking a cat to drink some cough medicine the ss officers told me to line up against the wall then the cannon went off and the redhead flashed her firecrotch to a bunch of kids. it wasnt until i found myself between the pages of a giant book and that mother fucker popped right the hell out at me and said "bitch you one high ass nigga up here in fucking disney world of all places. stop being a faggot." that i realized what was happening.
That shit laced with Pooh Sheisty.
his words of wisdom stayed with me to this day and i dont so much as touch a drop of alcohol when i'm at those parks now. and you're a faggot if you do take drugs at a theme park for kids. so kill yourself

Went on Siren's Curse for the first time at cedar point. Line was awful bit well worth it

>>2809961
>Taking selfies in front of faux architecture in a half-assed corporate realization of the globalist wet dream world's fairs of yore.
Uh, Based??

>>2809331
Never rode The Beast, but my first coaster at Dollywood was Hot Rod and it was pretty great. (However, I think Thunderhead was more well rounded, great station)

Also how is Super Nintendo World for a guy and his brother-that-didn't-ride-rollercoasters-at-Dollywood?

>>2810016
Nobody knows or cares if you’re high on cannabis at a theme park. You can buy hemp-derived edibles at any vape shop just outside Disney property and they still get you high (legally so long as the farm bill loophole exists). Being sober at Disney parks, especially Magic Kingdom, can get really boring at times. Also, being high on my dispensary gummies made janky old space mountain super fun. I’ve hated that ride for years but it was great riding it high

>>2810053
You should ride space mountain high while listening to the 2001 a space odyssey monolith music on noise canceling headphones

>>2810059
>ride space mountain high while listening to the 2001 a space odyssey monolith music
Reddit: The Ride

>>2810059
the music/ sound effects are way better fag

>>2809929
That's why people use SFGAm and SFGAdv.
I guess it doesn't matter too much because everybody overlooks great america just because it didn't have kingda ka

>>2808944 (OP)
if there are any brits here i highly recommend the sandcastle water park in blackpool. you have to go during non peak days otherwise the queues are abhorrently long due to the small venue size but all of the big rides are decently white knuckle for an indoor water park
even the kiddie rides are loads of fun especially if you with family, cuz many of them are racers where you lie back and try to outslide the other person
theres also a fun water climbing frame where you can shoot people with water guns, me and my cousin got into a water gun battle with this muslim couple, it was hilarious
just a heads up for parking though, i left my car underneath the pleasure beach with a 3-4 hour ticket which is expensive but not nearly as expensive as the ticketing for the water park / casino parking so just a little tip there

Sorry for the delay, I was on vacation. Anyways, it looks like a slow news time, until D23 at the end of August, only minor updates this thread.
Threadly list of major Disney/Universal Theme Park dates/announcements.
Florida:
>Zootopia show opening in Tree of Life Theatre late 2025
>Monsters Inc. area 2027?
>No date announced for Dinosaur!/Boneyard closing (early 2026 expected)
>Front Tire Land replaces Tom Sawyer Island circa 2028
>Big Thunder Mountain (Florida) refurb finishes in 2026
>Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin refurb until sometime 2026
>Test Track 3.0 at EPCOT open now
>Both Disney water parks open ALL SUMMER
>Disney resort guests have FREE water park admission on their check-in day in 2025.
>Hollywood Rip Ride Rocket (in Florida) closes 5ever August 28, 2025
>Volcano Bay major refurb starts Oct 26, 2025

California:
>Fast and Furious roller coaster opens in Hollywood sometime in 2026
>Walt Disney animatronic show open noe. Lincoln returning later.
>Mike & Sully closing 2026, becoming Avatar ride

Both:
>Millenium Falcon: Smuggler's Run gets the flight rethemed to Mandalorian May 22, 2026

Europe:
>Disney Village & Disney Adventure World (Paris) overhauls with Frozen and Mary Poppins expansion at Paris to be completed 2026
>Lion King Splash Mountain water ride at Paris Studio park, late 2027 at the earliest
>Universal UK soon

Asia:
>Multi-launch Spider-man coaster at Shanghai DL, no date yet
>Spider-Man Drop Tower at Hong Kong DL, Doc Ock at some point
>Wreck-It-Ralph omnirover shooter replaces the already closed Buzz Lightyear in Tokyo by April 2026
>Tokyo Disneyland Space Mountain currently closed until 2027 for complete ground-up rebuild
>Tokyo maybe razing Adventureland 2026 or later?

>>2809581
>On the subject of Disney Cruises, would like to try one but they're so fucking expensive
>They're building something like 6 new ships
I don't have a clue how Disney expects to fill staterooms when each of these billion-dollar vessels is floating in 2032.
Only boomers can afford cruises, occasionally bringing their adult children or grandkids along.

>>2809956
Third worlders (the French) hate America for some stupid reason. Euro Disney was doomed to fail from the start. I think it would have done better in a place like Italy or maybe even Spain.

>>2810176
SFGAdv was overrated compared to SFGAm before Kingda Ka or El Toro existed. SFGAdv is overrated because it draws from NYC and Philly metros which combined is almost 4x the population of Chicago metro. And a lot of those people from NYC and Philly think they’re the center of the universe.

>>2810198
Cruises are exploding in popularity at the moment. They're suprisingly good value for the food an entertainment.

Disney cruises are insanely expensive though so I suspect some of the new ships may be designed around shorter cheaper cruises.

>>2810225
Disney cruises are the best if you're not poor and have a family. If money is an issue or you don't have kids, go on Royal Caribbean

>>2810226
I’m not poor and I have a family. We’ve been on Disney before but it’s a waste of money. The only thing I liked was their (castaway) private island where it stopped twice. Being on a floating ship and eating never fresh always frozen Sysco food with expensive alcoholic drinks and mediocre entertainment, limited shopping, small pools, small overpriced bars that are dead at 9pm and don’t play every game, etc. just isn’t worth several thousand dollars to me. It’s better to dump that money into an all inclusive or to a large resort property near or on the water. I’m talking about Bahamas and Caribbean cruises where the ports are all full of violent blacks and you have to be careful where you go and would prefer to be on a ship. I can see a cruise traveling the Mediterranean being a stylish and convenient way to travel it (Gypsy and jeet pickpockets aside). Is there really a difference between Disney and royal Caribbean? I know carnival is full of blacks and budget but aside from Mickey Mouse and other gay Disney overlays/skins, what’s the difference? I’ve only done Disney

>>2810198
>>2810225
>>2810226
>>2810229

There's a cruise general that covers all this
>>2784630

I know Disney cruise has those youth clubs that babysit kids but there was that 3-year-old molested by an older kid (probably a black or some other brownoid) in one of them a few years ago. There have been other sexual assaults and staff have been arrested for it. Cruise staff live in tiny pods for months long contracts and can’t use guest areas. Disney has long attracted a lot of sex offenders, fetishists, and other sexual weirdos in addition to employing more homosexuals than anywhere.

>>2810235
shut up fag

>>2810229
It sounds like you just don't like cruises so I don't understand why you would want to go on one

>>2810252
I'm not going to. >>2784630

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvUjbKUBMmo

Comfy, shame there's only one Virginia Reel operating in the world now and it's a mini version.

Sandusky's newspaper picked up about Peanuts being dropped by Six Flags
https://sanduskyregister.com/news/616942/bye-bye-snoopy/

I'm always a wimp on coasters so I have a firm grip on the lap bar at all times but for whatever reason Tron gives me the unshakeable urge to let go and wave to everybody below during the outdoor bit.

Can anyone tell me what happened to make people stop going to Six Flags Over Georgia? I have distinct memories of the lines in the mid 2000s. They were really long.
>45 minutes for the log flume
>45 minutes for mind bender
>90 minutes for goliath
>2 hours for the scorcher (!!!)
>2.5 hours for batman
>3 hours for deja vu (might have been 4 at one point)
>not sure on the line for scream machine but the snake queue was completely full
>1 hour superman
And the last couple of times I’ve been most of these are walkons or not far from it. So what happened? It’s not like Atlanta and the south has lost people lately.
>muh blacks
They were there back then too and behaved as such. I remember a fight broke out near me at the exit. When I looked one of the guys was already in handcuffs.
>seriously how did they get handcuffs on him so fast

>>2810339
It’s still the same article from Don Helbig. Also, Sandusky Register hates Cedar Point, Cedar Point even banned them from media events last year. I did a little more research the other day. The license does indeed expire at the end of the year but they didn’t renew it last time until September.

>>2810529
It’s very strange. Chaperone policy, perhaps? But all the legacy Cedar Fair parks have the same policy (except Cedar Point for some reason) and they don’t have this problem. SF Great America has been down somewhat too. And Great Adventure which everybody is blaming on Ka. SFOG is one of the parks that Cedar Flags saw growth potential in due to the growing Atlanta area. Looks like they need to work on getting locals to care about it.

>>2810259
You’re right I don’t. Unfortunately my family members do. Kids are free on Royal Caribbean and they have more activities for them to do. When their waterslides aren’t breaking that is. The only thing I like about Disney is you don’t have to tender to their private island because the ships can dock there. Otherwise I don’t care about Disney characters or theming or shows. If you’re into that then obviously Disney is the way to go but costs a few thousand more. All that Disney stuff is really fucking gay.

29 days until I go to Disney World for the first time in 22 years bros.

>>2810541
Dont dox yourself like this.

>>2810541
Nice. What's your itinerary like? Where you staying?

>>2810542
Don't worry, I'm a ghost.

>>2810543
We're staying at Port Orleans French Quarter. We think it'll be cool to be able to hop on a boat and go to Disney Springs in the evenings. Checking in on Sunday and leaving on Saturday. Haven't quite decided the order we'll do the parks, but I guess I'll try to figure that out soon if we want to buy some Lightning Lanes in advance. But we have parkhoppers too so we can be flexible.

I'm really excited to ride Tower of Terror because I was too scared to ride it as a kid.

What makes dole whip so addicting? I've shamelessly pounded down multiple at once and I pretty much buy whatever flavor I pass by. The watermelon flavor is really great too.


>>2810547
Cool, I was at riverside a few weeks ago and did the boat hop. If you're into eating out/drinking with your group then I can see how that is really appealing. Not for me though. Would have rather had a gondola resort but those aren't operating for a while I believe.
If you guys are up for it, don't sleep on (literally) the resort early park entry if you wanna get a couple of the highest wait rides knocked out in like 30 minutes. Especially the avatar stuff in animal kingdom since theyre right next to each other. That would really free up that day since AK is a partial day park anyway. I think the star wars rides in Hollywood studios cuck you, at least last I was there they didn't open those til after general entry.
But of course if you just want to arrive later and skip the barbaric rat race that's definitely a good idea as well.
Are you doing only Disney? With 7 days I would run out of things to do. I didnt find the Port Orleans activities to be as conducive to resort staycation vibes as I expected.

>>2810552
Well, really it's five days because we'll get there late on Sunday and leave early on Saturday, so five days at the parks, and we get tired in the hot sun so I'm sure we'll spend a good amount of time resting too. But we'll definitely be up early to make use of the early admission.

>>2810552
I like the orange flavor the best. I also like how everybody has it. I had a Menchie’s right by me that had it until it closed but a seasonal ice cream stand nearby has it. Cedar Point has it. Knoebels has it and you can get a flight there. Discovery Cove has all you can eat pineapple. The stuff in the grocery store is supposedly the same ingredients with additives to make it freezer friendly but it has the wrong texture and tastes disgusting

Do you think the Fast and Furious coaster will be themed to orlando or new york city?

>>2810552
It's all about the floats for me, so good when it's baking hot.

They should have kept Splash Mountain as is and just added an insensitive content warning like they do on Disney+


>>2810578
For me the floats just don't scratch the itch as well. I don't find the pineapple juice as refreshing on a hot day, I'd rather have just the ice cream

>>2810593
Should've added an exhibit about the originals of the Brer Rabbit tales, tying it to Black plantation workers.

>>2810529
They haven't had a noteworthy coaster installed in almost 2 decades. For a while they blew everyone else in the southeast away with their lineup, but can you really say there's anything at the park that excites you now?

Dare Devil Dive: who cares
Twisted Cyclone: worst RMC
Kid Flash: lol
Georgia Gold Rusher: who cares

The last big addition, Goliath, is just another B&M hyper and it's not even a real hyper. Interesting layout but there's no reason for me to visit when operations are usually bad, there's nothing to do besides rides, and single day parking is $30. You can't expect every ride to be running due to technical problems or, more likely, a lack of staffing. If you want to eat off property you'll have to go west on I-20 to get to a decent area.

For a once-a-season visitor, that park just doesn't offer any value. Lackluster rides (if they're open), few shows, lots of shitty carnival games that I never play, and mediocre food I don't want to buy.

>>2810609
You sound like fun….
I think Orlando is close enough to Atlanta that it might also be a factor. Sure it’s not really day trippable unless you’re insane, but six hours is close enough to where people who only visit SFOG once or twice a season might just want to go to Orlando instead. I used to work with a guy who ran our Atlanta satellite office and him and his family went to Disney World at least once a month. I don’t know how typical that is but I’ve only known a couple people who live in Atlanta. If I lived in Atlanta I would probably visit Orlando multiple times a year. I would also go to SFOG though

Thanks Cedar Point. I really enjoy waiting in 90 degree heat with no shade.

Seems this is the first PoV of Pantherian:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6tJwN_b9tE8

allegedly it's burning through wheels at a comical rate so could be another modern coaster closing for a few weeks after opening in order to sort its shit out. I guess they wanted it to maintain its speed for the whole coaster but the layout is kinds underwhelming past the drop.

>>2810609
I mean I’m not excited by their B&M fest anymore but I was as a kid, and so were lots of other people. In fact a lot of people are still blown away by B&M smooth fests. Are you saying they’re all drawn away by Dollywood, Carowinds, Fun Spot and the Orlando parks, or just bored of it? And why would they stop maintaining it? You think they just decided to coast on their success into irrelevance?

>>2810642
Thunder Canyon is closed too so you can’t ride it too cool off. It was supposed to close on the 17th to turn into Cornstalkers, a Halloweekends maze, but apparently there was a mechanical issue the other day so they closed it for the season over a week early.

>>2810643
What is there to sort out? The coaster is over 15 years old. Are they trying out new and different wheels?

>>2810643
>allegedly it's burning through wheels at a comical rate
Sounds like bullshit

>>2810645
>Are you saying they’re all drawn away by Dollywood, Carowinds, Fun Spot and the Orlando parks, or just bored of it?
Some of that but mainly it's the perception you're going to get a mediocre product, so it's not worth the time and money to go when there's plenty of other ways to spend money on entertainment in Atlanta.

>And why would they stop maintaining it? You think they just decided to coast on their success into irrelevance?
Not at all. If a Six Flags park wanted a new coaster it had to wait for an outlay from SFI. General managers competed for that money and would lobby the board for capital expenditures. John Odum must have had a silver tongue because they got a lot of new rides under his tenure. In 2001 they got Deja Vu and Acrophobia, although DV didn't really work until the next year, which is when they got Superman. After he left, not much has happened... and it's clear that Carowinds is going to be the company's big southeastern park now.

>>2810643
>>2810652
>>2810657
On parkfans they’re saying the painters painted over and clogged water sprayers that cool the wheels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxviHeqY98g
>The now 2027 Great Adventure coaster is basically confirmed the spinner
>Not even using the plot of all the destroyed rides
>And looking far less then 400 ft tall
This place is so done lol

>>2810690
>less then

>>2810695
Fun at parties

>>2808944 (OP)

>>2810711
>Insidethememegic

>>2810690
If it’s not over 400ft then forget it. I think the tower extreme spinner strata sounds amazing. If it’s looking like the spinner then it better be a strata. Looks like the the lack of FAA filing is the issue. Since they already had a 400+ ft coaster I don’t think it will be denied

>>2809595
>40% off Peanuts merchandise sales are going on at Kings Island
On the off chance this actually means anything, maybe Six Flags is switching this park specifically to Warner Bros properties over the Peanuts? WB owns all the Hanna-Barbera characters that appeared at KI back in the day.

>>2810690
>>2810738
Can someone remind me how they deduced that the new attraction would be 400 feet tall?

>>2810752
It was in a survey they sent out last year. The same extreme spinner tower was in a Kings Island survey last year but was like 230 ft but the GAdv survey said over 400 ft

At first I thought TT2 was a 9 but I rode it again and I actually think it’s a 10 now.

>>2810770
>It was in a survey they sent out last year.
I've seen the survey I think, but don't recall a height

Anyone ever stay at one of the rental villas in Reunion, 15 minutes south of Orlando?
Just snagged an airbnb deal because the price was great for a place with multiple bedrooms and a private pool. The condos at the main building looked okay but nothing better than your average off-site resort closer to Disney.
According to google maps it should take about 15 minutes to get to WDW and about 25 minutes to get to Epic Universe.
I have also heard that traffic can get bad near the champion gate area but Reunion is a bit north of there. Any better/more convenient to get on i-4 to the parks in the morning and back at night?

>>2810711
This is Inside the Magic so they're probably adding 5 new car parking spaces or something stupidly minor.

>2025
>rewarding clickbait sites

>>2810751
Do they even have a license for Hanna Barbera anymore?

>>2810593
This protest was so stupid because what they were protesting is the whole point of Small World, they just aren't being that direct

>>2808944 (OP)
Massachusetts brat punched his Mom, causing her to bleed. A female cast member tackled him to the ground.

https://www.aol.com/disney-world-beatdown-victim-revealed-052308495.html

>>2810783
Never stayed there but I only stay at off property villas because of all the space and kitchen plus most of them have good pools and amenities. That one is more like 20 mins from Disney property due to congestion. It will probably take around the same time to get to Universal. If you leave super early you could get a jump on traffic and make it there earlier but going back at night sucks no matter where you stay. I always advise people to get a villa off property close to Disney because Disney property is too spread out and nothing there is close to everything. Yeah you might be a 20 minute gondola ride to two parks and a bus ride that could take up to an hour counting waiting especially if there are ECVs. You might get a monorail hotel but it costs $1k a night and isn’t close to the other parks. Etc. For that kind of money you could stay over at that Evermore place with two families to a unit

>>2810771
I go back and forth depending on how much it rattles. When I rode it over a month ago it was a 10/10 and barely shimmied. The whole sequence of launching backwards up and down the spike and the final burst up and over the tower is one of the best experiences I’ve ever had on a roller coaster. Couple weeks ago I was in the next to last row on the silver train and it rattled horribly, I couldn’t even enjoy the ride and it gave me a headache. I hear silver is the worse and sitting in the back is more rattley

>>2810783
Are you there with family or there by yourself? If you're by yourself just stay at the Drury Inn by Disney Springs

>>2810932
Imagine the autistic shit that caused this
It was probably something like him being told they cannot go on the Thomas the Tank Engine ride because Disney does not have one

>>2810657
>>2810609
>>2810536
I just checked their weekday hours because I wanted to take a half day off and head over to take advantage of the short lines. Only they have no weekday hours. They’re closed on weekdays, including Fridays.
>not when I shift into maximum overgrim

>>2810969
Everyone's back in school already, most of their staff wouldn't be available

>>2810972
Not the same anon but that’s interesting, Atlanta public schools went back the 4th. I was comparing it to Carowinds schedule. Charlotte goes back the 25th. Carowinds is open this week but interestingly they’re closed from the 17th to the 22nd and the 17th is a Sunday. I’m just surprised they’re not open daily through Labor Day. Cedar Point is but they’ve become more of a destination park with all their hotels.

>>2810963
Yep his Mom said he was autistic or some freaky mental crap like that. I feel for these women because the kids grow up massive but mentally are toddlers. I can't imagine having one and then having to take of it until death.

>>2810978
>they’re closed from the 17th to the 22nd and the 17th is a Sunday.
Seems likely the park will be having a private event that day.

>I’m just surprised they’re not open daily through Labor Day.
A lot of parks would be open daily through at least the end of August/Labor Day, but schools have lengthened their academic years just about everywhere and consequently most of their labor pool evaporates. Decades ago they used to have a ton of college aged employees but that's mostly gone now too.

>>2810873
I thought I read in a company statement somewhere that the current Six Flags holds theme park rights to animated Warner Bros properties, which would include the LT and DC characters already at some of the parks, and presumably, Hanna Barbera ones. However, I do remember the past Six Flags company got rid of anything Hanna Barbera-related in the late 2010s or so.

There is still so much undeveloped land in Orlando.

where should i eat at Disney world (park only) tomorrow

>>2811048
Space 220

>>2811023
Disney World has the opposite problem of Disneyland in that they have way too much land they will never get to developing

>>2811050
alright what do you suggest, never been before. lunch menu looks overpriced. Considering the shrimp tacos and steak or salmon.

>>2811055
salmon is full of roundworms.
sure its cooked up when you have grilled or smoked salmon but you're still consuming roundworms either way.
sushi on the other hand..
you're eating raw roundworms, alive or not it's disgusting.

>>2811048
Epcot has the best food, by far. The German restaurant is great.

>>2811085
Yes I posted about it last thread I ate at the german buffet for the first time. Fish and chips was good. Hated the American BBQ place though. Never going there again. But as far as actual sit down restaurant it's only been Germany so far. There aren't really any that I feel drawn to right now which is why I'm soliciting suggestions

>>2811055
All of the fine dining at Disney is extremely over priced, but the steak there is really quite good from what I remember. The atmosphere there is great and reminds me some of old Epcot.

>>2810932
Poor family, but keep these freakshows locked up

>>2810932
>His mother also revealed to police that her son “suffered from severe schizophrenia for several years and sometimes experiences severe hallucinations,” which at times had caused him to become violent with her in the past.
Imagine having schizo hallucinations at magic kingdom.

Cable snap at Power Tower (Cedar Point)