FROM THE TWISTED MIND OF TOBY FOX…

>>712863980 (OP)
shalom goyim, never forget the 6 gorillions and do the sneedful and buy undertale and deltarune. plz redeem. shalom.

>>712863980 (OP)
"Twisted"

>>712864850

>>712863980 (OP)
>he fucked her into a daze
Didn't know he had it in him.

>>712863980 (OP)

>>712863980 (OP)
This stealth Delta posts are getting easier to find.

i don't like 4chan's version of kriselle because anons want kris to rape noelle when it should be the (Soul) doing it so basically both of them are raped.

>>712864970
this, goys should do the sneedful and support our pharma industry, take our pills, i mean YOUR pills goy.

>>712865418
Take your FUCKING meds.

>>712865363
We are simply picking the options he gives us

i haven't played Deltarune someone explain to me the whole rape drama

>>712865363
You're too small brained to understand 4chan Kriselle.

Kris is a fucking certified Freak, same as Noelle. Both of them are the opposites which attract, they are so damnably compatible it is insane, they long for one another so immensely that it is incomprehensible, they are, dare I say it, made for one another. The only thing missing is a SOUL for Noelle to finally breach all of her doubts, and to pressure both Kris and Noelle into doing what they deep deep down want to do.

You are going to control both. You will push them both. You will make Noelle stronger, you will make Kris stronger, you can make all of them honest, sincere, the start of a SOUL in Noelle so you can unite them both in a bond that won't be broken by distractions or other bullshit copes. It is a sincere romance so profound it was forged by them at the start and then solidified as he literally shared a piece of his SOUL with his SOULMATE. You cannot get any more perfect than a love so potent that Kris, who deep down loves this as much as Noelle, shares his own heart with her. That thing which lights up the darkness.

It's, as the kids say, absolute cinema.

>>712865975
I'm killing Sans the first route I get

>have to use the tranny thread again
sigh

>>712863980 (OP)
hymen status?

>>712866267
>>712865150

>>712863980 (OP)
>kriskrossapplesauce crying subtly
i hate it. how cab weird route homosexuals do /our guy/ so dirty?

>>712866721
He should have fucked the deer sooner if he didn’t want this

>>712866721
Refer to >>712865748

>>712867014
doesn't justify any of it. still evil.

>>712868578
Small brained and too moralistic to get it. Sad!

>>712868638
>and too moralistic
you say that like it's a bad thing

>>712865975
that ai can write smutfics now?? i'm gonna be out of a [UNPAID INTERNSHIP]!!

how far are you willing to go to break the doe?

DEAD, I AM THE ONE
EXTERMINATING SON
SLIPPING THROUGH THE TREES
STRANGLING THE BREEZE

the Grinch who stole Krismas

>>712864850
What? I'm a Jew, and I don't support the homo shit. Don't spread lies spread by a few leftist Jews.

Is this the thread?

>>712872505
More like the bitch who stole my cum

I really hope Weird Route goes fully off the rails into Silent Hill-type mind fuckery and concepts.

>prince of darkness in the prophecy has fire powers
>shadow mantle has fire powers
>has an attack that is throwing smiles around
>ralsei can float around and is trying his hardest to smile
>shadow mantle has horns
wait a minute...
>ralsei in chapter 1 uses a mantle
that goat boy is not off the hook in my book, the more you think about it, the more sus he gets
someone with paint skills put on a ralsei hat on shadow mantle, i wanna check on something

>>712865748
>Kriselle post
>Its pure headcanon
Every time.

>>712872774
Kinda like that idea, but honestly who knows at this point

>>712872774
If it's going anywhere it's gonna be more Twin Peaks than Silent Hill.
(Also is anyone else having massive problems trying to post or is my internet just exploding?)

>>712865748
you don't get it
i don't want them to be sincere, i want it to be creepy like it is in the game, but /v/ is obsessed with two different headcanons that equally suck
>kris is a boring rapist
>kris and noelle are in wholesome love

>>712873023
Why not both?
Site might be getting ddosed or something I'm getting connection errors sometimes too

is this the threade?

Kris kinda reminds me of the persona 3 protagonist

>>712873119
Theoretically

>>712872505
Hag board

>>712863980 (OP)
When was your Tenna last respected?

delivering from earlier

anybody have the screenshot of this guy saying "don't wait!"

I'm not gay, I just wanna have gay sex with Kris.

>>712873267
Glorious

Toby is such a twisted fuck that he made a game where you play as his obvious self insert who's going to fuck characters based off his childhood bully and his church crush

>>712873267
mesugaki soul stocks on the rise

>>712873131
Kris reminds me of a certain kind of protagonist... it's great.

>>712873310
what did he mean by this
no seriously
i don't understand what the fuck this thing is

>>712865975
Where is the website for this version of the smash or pass AI? I though you could only upload one image.

>>712873267
>top right
oh god we've given noelle a mesugaki soul of her own now too

>>712863980 (OP)
This is such a loathesome scene. And the following scene in the bathroom sells it even harder. I can't imagine not feeling like a huge piece of shit afterwards, I assume you guys are just memeing.

>>712872774
If he does I really hope he references the mirror scene

>>712873417
w.d.

>>712873394
>makes a route specifically where you mindbreak his self-insert and the facsimile of his church crush via and inscrutable entity with goals you cannot understand
Hello, Based Department? Yeah, you're gonna wanna sit down for this one.

>>712863980 (OP)
why is her finger twitching like that

should I delete the rose restoration mod before doing weird route
is the new animation better

So wait I forget, which ship is Toby going to pivot to so his game can be as subversive as possible?

>>712873545
Kris (You) just stabbed her finger with a thorn

>>712873502
Is it supposed to be broken like this?

>>712873545
thorn ring, idiot

>>712873586
Kris X Catti after he saves her from the Dark World

>>712873267
Ramb understands

>>712873417
He's one of Gaster's errand boys.

>Toby's unironic reaction when a tranny walks up to him

>>712873557
I think the imagery of you infesting her with your roots is much better honestly.

>>712873586
You're dumb if you think Toby does anything to be subversive.

>>712872774
>Chapter 5+ Weird Route
>The physical environment starts to warp from your fuckery

>>712873557
>is the new animation better
I don't think so, but it's not bad.

How's the mom abusive again?

>>712873557
They're both good. Rose is more subtle, new one is more visceral and violent. Do whatever.

F E A C H E R
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>>712873385
full?

>>712873719
>>712873682
>>712873664
I'm autistic
i need to be told what to do

>>712873605
I assume so

>>712873267
the LEGS on Susie

>>712873267
That muscle Susie is peak

>>712873754
Proceed.

>>712873542
>Ralsei saying after fighting off the roaring knight that you put up a good fight and he thought the conflict could have ended right then and there
Gives me hope for a bruteforce ending instead of friendship bullshit, maybe even breaking Kris to fully assimilate into the goal.

>>712873754

>>712873754
Watch the Rose scene on Youtube, skip the effort and enjoy the new animation

>>712873586
me x you're mom

>>712873723
https://vidya.pics/post/list/personification%20soul_%28deltarune%29/1

>>712873723
Kachow

>>712873754
Just do the easier thing to do, shitass.
(I can't post fucking images because the site is shitting itself)

>>712863980 (OP)
It's not rape. It's just agressive sex.

ok this is it

>>712873427
https://smash-ai--youngzephyr85495018.on.websim.com/

>>712873310
>>712873417
This thing freaks me out because it seems to be dying or something while we talk to it in Chapter 4.

>>712873856
>spoiler
Ah, good to know that's not just me. Fix your shit hiroshima

>Deltarune has made red and black edge cool again

>>712872449
I like this sudden head canon that Asgore mowed Dess down with his truck

>>712863980 (OP)
QRD?
Does he really rape her?

>>712873721
C O M I N G
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>>712873964
Him? No. Me? Yes.

>>712873882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LcT1OubJsE

>>712863980 (OP)
>>712866721
I don't get it, is Kris a psychopath or not? He walks like a fucking zombie when you're not piloting him and he's clearly up to some level of no good, but then he also seems to care about his friends and sometimes does things on his own that are not really psychopathic. What the fuck is the deal?

>>712873882
ENTER

>>712873267
>naked apron susie
nice

>>712873964
'fraid so

>>712873964
Yeah I did

>>712873964
(You) rape her SOUL

>>712873813
>>712873812
>>712873795
>>712873856
I've already gone through the autistic effort of redownloading 3 different versions of the mod multiple times with every minor update and repatching it back in
and I haven't even started the alt route

>>712874006
He's very, very traumatized from an event we still haven't had explained to us yet. He's doing his best and depending on the route you're making things worse.

>>712874006
kris is autistic

>>712873837
i need facesitting content of this impish critter asap

>>712874006
>anon learns that people's motivations can be complex

>Kris getting more and more sprites as the game goes on
genuine improvement from Undertale, I need more of it DESU
>Kris also starting to animate himself into our choices, like throwing the cup if you drink it in front of Alphys
I need to see more of our choices animated too, that would be such a god-tier improvement from Undertale

>>712873964
The rumors are true.

>>712873927
The truth is, it was never not cool

>>712874101

>>712873586
Unironically Berdly harem

>>712874006
>kid who's seemingly the last of his species in a monster world
>something tragic happened to him or to someone in front of him, to the point of repressed memories and adults in his life trying to cover things up or hide things for him
>the one person he relied on left to college
>he feels out of control
>but he still wants to do kid stuff like play vidya and drink choccy milk with his new friends
why is your first thought psychopathy and not trauma

>>712874083
Noelle and Asriel are assumedly also fucked by eldritch revelation. Just not as badly as Kris was. Dess probably got turned into the Knight though so she had it the absolute worst.
(WHY CAN I NOT POST IMAGES BUT OTHER PEOPLE CAN, HIROSHIMOOT FIX YOUR SHIT)

>>712873639
His smile is so goofy guys... or is that his cock and he's trying to suck it

>>712874006
>He walks like a fucking zombie when you're not piloting him
He's autistic. He's perfectly capable of walking normally in front of other people, but since he knows (You)'re watching him he's thinking he looks more menacing walking like that.
It's actually really funny

>>712873964
if you want to get technical, she (and (you)) raped him

>>712873882
Do not start a battle

i only have 2 and a half gigs of space left and I can't stop downloading images
please help

>>712863980 (OP)
So is Chara in the game? Because this seems way too fucked up even for him.

>>712874193
Not even gonna lie, it's because of the knife.

>>712874228

>>712874173

>>712874006
doing the weird route unironically gives you the most insight into Kris

How do you do the Spamton scene in Chapter 3?

Theoretically, who would be added to Smash Brothers to represent Deltarune?
No one can correct?

>>712873984
I LOST THE SUBTITLES

>>712874280

which charactrr hsa the biggresyt fkappiesyt cock?

>>712874265
kris feels this entity controlling his body and wants to rip it out of him before it hurts his friends

>>712874313
Have Dealmaker on you and enter the secret room in the room with all the TV Quizes

>/v/anchildren are so mindbroken by the outright suselle confirmation after huffing 4 years of weapons-grade kriselle copium that they embrace the route where you rape noelle instead
pathetic melty

>>712874224
>His creeper walk is just him being a teen trying to look cool
That's actually kind of cute

>>712874273

>>712874313
Go to the Bonus Zone

>>712873237
heh heh

>>712874339
>>712874280
Isn't this only if you abort in chapter 4?

>>712874190
GAMERS
RISE
UP

>>712874313
>have dealmaker
>in the tv world room with all the screens, on the bottom left there will be two green screens
>enter

>>712874265
How else is a kid gonna sneak off with a slice of pie?

>>712874314
Susie would be a fantastic rep. No I’m not biased from maining her in RoA. Actually now that you mention it
>There is a very real and palpable chance we get a fully-fledged UTDR rep in the next Smash Bros, knowing how much Nintendo loves Toby and vice-versa now
Kind of dizzying to think about

>>712874348
Ralsei is 12 inches

>>712874372
Im gonna need to see this SOUL's butthole

>>712874372
built for BBC (Big Berdly Cock)

>you miss things in the game when you... don't miss things

>>712874313
>>712874361
>>712874424
Puppet Scarf also works if you beat in violently, including Snowgrave route.

>>712874354
You know, I guess that's fair. To be honest, having it contextualized as trauma has definitely changed my perspective. I figured maybe he was still just having a hard time with the divorce, but his actions feel too extreme for JUST that to be the case. I don't get why he hates (You) if you're doing things the right way though. If anything, (We) are kinda helping him in the normal route.

>>712874418
No but you get the opportunity right after that dialog

>>712874361
>>712874375
>>712874424
Thanks

>>712874362
I'm just a humble Krusie enjoyer. Tending to my cute Krusie images.

>>712874432
Yeah Susie would be my pick too.
>RoA
is it fun just playing it solo? or is it with friends

>>712873237
kek

>>712874362
>suselle
>kriselle
no
consider ralsellé

>>712874476
Irresistible power

>>712874480
I swear, the Delta Rune is two monsters, one human and (You)

>>712874480
Huh? I dont remember that room

>>712863980 (OP)
Why is that leg twitching so erotic?

What would even happen in chapter 5 weird route if we just stop being weird and stop attacking enemies? How would Noelle react and are we just stuck on the weird route after chapter 4?

>>712874339
confirmed: Kris is a good kid underneath his initial Gremlin shit, but that makes him just another /v/ user unironically, he'd fit in here perfectly
also confirmed: He's being forced to do dirty work by Carol/The Knight/Antagonistic overall Force in the game
>>712874418
dummy

What is her fucking problem?

so what's the ending going to be? and why do the "smartest" games always end up having "you are a bad person for not playing this how i want you to" narratives?

>>712874537
a daring ralsysnthesis

>>712874432
i think toby's lightner autism would prevent kris, susie, and noelle from being a rep
he'd probably be cool with ralsei or spamton though, kris and susie showing up to help ralsei's final smash also seems possible

>>712874598
She's not fucking

>>712874006
>Kris... had a hard life

>>712873964
Fraid so

>>712874598
Being srs business in a town of wacky fellas

>>712874598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np0-qSKT5sE

>>712874598
She hasn't been able to get any dick since Rudy got in the hospital

>>712874578
Only shows up if you didn't do Sword Route.

>>712874615
You're currently being railroaded towards a bad future by whatever the main antagonist is. Gaster brought you in to change things.

You stupid underfags think you're sooooooo cool and quirky, rot in hell you fat cunt. Shitty game that is played by shitty ppl

>>712874595
depends on if she's part of the party i imagine
if she's just running around by herself she'll probably be freezing them anyway without your input
although even if she's in the party i can almost imagine her freezing spared enemies anyway

>>712874129
>29
BAWK

>>712873237
Haven't had one in years, other than one kept at my dad's place for storage. Internet and VR make movies and shows either far more convenient or active via online friends.

>pic
2001 would've still been among the final prime years for Tenna. Video + streaming sites weren't a mainstream thing yet for another few years.

>>712874640
Susie - good choice
Kris - okay choice, good if the SOUL can be worked in somehow
Everyone else - dogshit choice
Ralsei, seriously? He's a healer.

>>712874653
What was he thinking at that moment

>>712874615
>and why do the "smartest" games always end up having "you are a bad person for not playing this how i want you to" narratives?
Why do you people treat the game showing bad things happening because you make them happen as a personal attack?

hi susie

>>712874486
the divorce is just one slice of the pie, we do not know what happened with dess exactly yet, or the severity of asgore getting fired and how it ties into dess's fate, or why kris is the only human in the town. doesn't matter if (We)'re the best guys in the world, watching your body move on its own and cause your friends to be in pain is fucked up

>>712874653
Do you think Kris goes back to being just Kris during cutscenes?

>>712874673
What can you do there?

>>712874690
9 year old brown shartoid hands typed this post on a motorola

>>712874598
her (likely favoured) daughter is missing/ dead and her husband is dying in the hospital from aids
she needs dreemurr cock like the rest of her family

>>712874372
I hope the original drawfag is here to see me say this character is one of the greatest things to ever come out of these threads

>>712874707
"Why does she always have to ruin everything"
The subtext people are missing here is that this scene explains why Kris has no close friends. He would never take Catti or Monster Kid around in case they saw something like this.

>>712874714
Inability to separate one's sense of self from the media they consume is a hallmark of stunted emotional and mental intelligence. These are unironic special ed kids

>>712874530
Ehhh I like it solo sometimes but I can see it losing the allure quick for someone else. Nothing can really replace or simulate you and your friends dicking around as your favorite indie reps.
>>712874640
Oh you’re right. I guess it might depend on which game comes out/finishes first, assuming that the Lightner Mandate is only for as long as we don’t know the full plot. Spamton or Tenna might be a shoe-in.

>>712874615
Snowgrave is going to be presented as an equally acceptable ending and you're still going to seethe at the characters in-universe acting reasonably when they treat you badly, like Undertale Genocide.

what if heart isn't player insert and is dess heart and dess was pedo incest lesbo rapist?

>>712874598
how old is too old to fuck a hag and it still be cool?

oh great, now the SOVL wants kris's dick

>>712874630
>both doormats
>both have a thing for being treated as doormats
>both spread wide for the BHC
when kris finally claims susie, ralsei and noelle will find love in their shared desire to be kris' side piece.

>>712874242
But what if.....
I do

>>712874784
he's literally me

>>712874740
probably, (you) can't do anything if kris isn't given a choice

>>712874734
Reptiles don't have mammary glands. I'm looking at my snake right now. No tiddies

>>712874598
>>712874734
COMING straight from your house

my friends in school made fun of me for debt collectors calling our house

>>712874816
Two bottoms, it's not gonna work

>>712874735
>and cause your friends to be in pain
If you're being on your best behavior, this never happens. If anything, Kris causes more grief to their friends than (Us) on a normal route because they're allied with the Knight.

>>712874839
...can i see ur snake

>>712873964
For accuracy, (you) rape both of them at the same time.

>>712874735
Well I'm trying my best to keep him and his friends out of danger, so I think he could be a little more appreciative.

>>712874839
yeah, but you can still milk them so it balances out

>>712874707
>why is she doing this now
>susie, don't look
>i wish asriel was here
>i hate mom
>i hate dad
>i hate sans
>i hate this dead end town
>i hate my life
>why did you leave me with this mess, asriel

>>712874734
sauce? or is it AI?

>>712874839
susie isn't a reptile, she's a monster with reptilian features

>>712874868

>>712874551
Now I'm imagining a Berdly version of pic related

>>712874862
theyll both give birth to kris' children and raise them as their own, truly the greatest of all bonds.

>>712874851
that's rough buddy

>>712873964
>Through earlier events , she was pulled into an alternative world where she iced a bunch of people to get stronger and put on a soul warping ring to do said icing.
>rationalized it as a bad dream with the help of the player character
>(you) can reveal everything wasn't a dream and force the ring back on her
>player character gets so angry at (you) he violently beats the shit out of (you) for that
>at the end of the episode her mom says the mind broke doe is excited to go with you to the town festival

You're offered like 30 times to back out so its a very not good thing to do.

>>712874714
nice assumption buddy but i dont take this shit personally,i can just see that the creator wants me to

Is this the most fucked up choice in the game? Trying to make Kris say he’ll never play piano again after watching you mind rape his childhood friend, and basically lose the will to live is brutal.

>>712874598
Why people hate her again?

>>712874910
has all the telltale signs of AIslop

>>712874583
if you've ever ACTUALLY fucked a girl silly the sense of accomplishment in doing so is second to none.

>>712874256
>destroying the entire world is better than sticking a thorn in someone's finger and giving a bird the flu

>>712873964
more like strongly coerced
fucking kids nowadays dont know what rape is
it wouldnt end on a
>thank you kris
if it was really rape

>>712874981
>nice assumption buddy but i dont take this shit personally,i can just see that the creator wants me to

>>712874864
>>712874889
>good route
>kris is the evil one
>weird route
>(You) are the evil route
>there is only one eventual ending
hm.............................................................................................................................................................................................

>>712874101
SOVL aka (me) sitting on Kris' face would be based

you're now thinking about spamton (forma midget) fucking tenna's asshole sloppy style

>>712874981
This isn't Spec Ops: the Line, bro. Toby's not gonna seethe at you for playing the routes he made.

>>712874984
if i were toby i would make this scene play out as normal except if you mindraped noelle, in which case kris will say it and susie will talk about how hes shaking and sounds like hes on the verge of tears

>>712873267
DINO PUSSY

>>712865150
Me if I were in charge of making a subtle metaphor

am i the only one who thinks jackenstein fucking sucked

>>712874984
I think it probably is. It's one of the few things he still enjoys in life and even if you're being the biggest asshole in the universe and forcing him to do all the wrong things up until this point, he's not gonna let you take that away from him too.

>>712874984
this dialogue happens whether or not you're on snowgrave

>>712875023
anons are forgetting ch 2 where you force noelle to do bad things and she rationalizes it as something kris is doing to help her because believing that kris wants to hurt her is unthinkable. of course she'd say thank you after a horrible event like that, she's been lying to herself for several lines now

>>712875065
Yes, Tenna very clearly was the bottom

>Before the game came out, I thought people wouldn't really care about Tenna and simply dismiss him as a budget Spamton. I'm glad everyone seems to like him just fine. I see those two as intentionally similar characters who mutually enhance each other. You know, like Spy vs. Spy.

>>712875065
No I'm not you fucking retard DIE

>>712874984
Good, I also will never play again after the piece of shit Casio Privia keeps malfunctioning and some of middle keys have loudness errors.

>>712875109
Weird route living up to its name in chapter 5.

>>712874984
Even on doebreaking route, I'm not gonna take his piano away

>>712875107
He only bites the hand on snowgrave though

>>712875065
tenna does not have an asshole, he is just a TV

>>712875107
Kris just coughs in normal route if you pick that. If you're on snowgrave, he bites in REALLY deep.

>>712874615
Who knows but the ending is going to be majorly disappointing. Dreams rarely mean anything to anyone other than the person who had them

>>712874981
lol okay buddy, if you need me I'll be enjoying my mindbroken doe

>>712874984
Interesting how he stops himself from doing this but he still goes through with /k/'ing Noelle...

Chapter 5

>>712875117
Gonna be real I very much felt he was Spamton 2 and the chapter suffered for having him in it as much as it did
Basically the only other character in the chapter is fuckin Ramb with like 6 lines total

>>712874962
it's okay
i did my best to be a good friend to them because i never got invited to anything no matter how many times they came over to play video games i owned and wanted to play with them and then they ghosted me forever and I realized I've never had a real friend in my life
im glad i was rewarded for doing the right thing

>>712874280
Why did Noelle say all of that with such a degree of detail

>>712875180
they have a kid together someone had to shit out that O <--- pipis

>>712875235
(You) don't get serious until there's doe pussy on the line. This is just a bad intrusive thought.

>>712875235
You exerted far far more control over him in that moment of weakness.

But why

>>712875250
What about the weather couple

>>712875102
dont lose your whimsy anon

>>712875262
Susie and Noelle are both big talkers, both of them knowing Kris is a silent, but deep listener provokes their deepest selves forward

>>712864850
why is only anti-semitism illegal ?

>>712875102
YOUR OPINION IS WRONG

>>712875192
Oh, that's fucking golden. I love seeing Kris be both more expressive in the normal route and more aggressive towards the player in the weird route. I'm really excited to see how things play out once we get to the point where we have to go against Kris because they're allied with the Knight and we have to stop them.

>>712875310
When we only had chapter 1 i assumed all the kings had a free for all in there and the king of spades won. But now i'm not so sure

>>712874984
Play the piano for me, Kris

>>712875310
Tried to fight the Knight like the other kings, gave up when Lancer was held hostage.

I know I'm literally weeks late to the party but I JUST watched the chapter 4 snowgrave route and guys I don't think Kris is a bad person
>>712873463
lmao

I really want to do some father/son bonding in the next chapter.

If you start Chapter 2 with no save file the only item gained from Chapter 1 is the White Ribbon, so what do you get if you start Chapter 4 with no save?

>>712875281
spamton is the one laying the pipises clearly since he filled the queen's castle with them

>>712875412
>spoiler
Pussy, do it yourself.

>>712875415
>asgore is boss3
Oh, they'll bond all right.

>>712873267
Since when did the soul get humanized
I kind of like it

Guys i'm starting to think snowgraveposters didn't actually play the game

>>712874984
I like the dichotomy of doing Snowgrave but still picking the nice options, unless I'm allowed to choose Noelle.
Feels like it's more fucky than just being an asshole for everything

>>712875252
You'll find somebody to be the Kris to your Susie someday, anon. (Or the other way around.)
Either way, hang in there!

>>712875415
Asgore is going to be the baddie of chapter 5 and it's going to be kino.

>>712875240
I really need toriel's reputation to be fixed, but there's no way asgore is going to be the good guy considering how fucked up he was in UT

>haven't bought the game yet cause i'm wondering if they might do NSO icons for the switch version and i don't want to double dip

>>712875462
he's so cool

Glad the plot seems to have pivoted more into the theme of free will instead of yet another "escapism is le bad" story. Yes, you thought FFTA was cool, how precious

>rips soul out
>goes and drinks choco milk
>calls the knight to discuss police sacrifice
>refuse to elaborate
>passes out

>>712875408
The king outright says that he never met the knight in chapter 4

>>712874116
COMPLEX MOTIVATIONS YOU SAY?

s-stop misgendering kris!!! xe's a they/them, not a guy! you f-ucking *hic* self inserters!! w-wait, you see kris as a female because you masturbate to them?!? NOOOOOO STOP!!! KRIS XIS A THEY/THEM!!!

>>712875506
no i won't
im on the verge of going homeless and starving

>>712875464
Having to play the entirety of chapter 3 again with basically no changes is annoying though.

>>712875461
>shitting out kids right at queen's footsteps
why did he do it

Why is he so based?

>>712875252
>and I realized I've never had a real friend in my life
same
its safer not to get attached so thats what i do now

>>712875562
queen says jump and every male says "how high"

>>712875558
So was Susie, bro.

>>712874339
>Kris, Kris, you're back...!
This line made me sick to my stomach when i first read it
The first and only time i got blackout drunk in front of my family we were staying in an airbnb and i threw up on the couch. I couldn't remember anything and i couldn't stop shaking when i woke up, i felt so sick and i was so scared of facing my family. When my grandma finally came to check on me she told me not to worry. She told me that everyone was saying "Anon is back!" and they were just happy that i was finally being outgoing and talking to people like i used to as a kid. I dont really know where i'm going with this but now whenever i think of the horrifying hopeless situation Kris is in it just makes me remember how i felt in that moment

>>712875537
Just outside of your field of vision are a thousand densely packed Gasters

>>712875531
>hears 0.0025 attoseconds of B flat and spikes the chocolate sauce bottle at you

>>712875524
I liked FFTA for Wiegraf though, not Marche.

/v/ros...

>>712875558
Oh
I probably won't give you any spare change, but we can make a brief awkward glance at each othe

>>712875583
He is a Berdly patrician

Well. We know how it would go for Noelle but...

How would susies first time go?

>>712875531
>snipes you from across the room with perfect precision the instant you make any noise

>>712875537
>Zero Time Dilemma is an anagram of DELTARUNE

>>712875583
>Why am I so based?
Come on, you could be a bit more humble, anon.

should i get high and play more deltarune

how does kris know that the soul is antithetical to the plan all the way in chapter one?

>>712875583
he's the actual self insert instead of Chris

>>712875537
It's like some kinds of DELTArune....

>>712875673
susie seems like the type of gal who never learned how to masturbate but knew that bumping her clam against the edge of a table felt good so her first time would consist of her laughing racously and going YOU'RE GONNA PUT YOUR WHAT IN MY WHERE?

>>712875729
You should get super high and watch gore videos and family guy edits

>>712875735
da demon that brought it told them

>>712875702
motherfucker you made me think about it...

>>712875673
Kris would jokingly suggest it as a dare and Susie would take it too seriously.

>>712875587
Can't blame them

>>712875652
whose hand?

>>712875735
The soul isn't actually (You)

Something a lot of people are missing. Just because we're in control doesn't mean it's literally us.

Like Frisk in Undertale, it will be its own character. Some anons suggested it's Dess' soul, that doesn't make much sense to me but maybe it's something like that.

If Kris doesn't like our existence and interference, then where the fuck did we come from?

>Ralsei being forced to reveal his full powerlevel in the Snowgrave route after he finally realizes what (You) are doing in the light world

>>712875640
>I liked FFTA for Wiegraf though
I think that's just FFT

>>712875537
[M I N D H A C K]

People are saying this is Noelle, and I'm just not seeing it

>>712873267
i can do more knights if anyone has any requests by the way, feel like doodling some more

>>712875921
Those people are retarded because it can't be Noelle.

>>712875901
Oh yeah, you're right.

>>712875856
where do intrusive thoughts come from?

>>712875851
We still don't have a solid on that, it's pretty open as to what (you) actually are in relation to Kris
Personally I think it's his soul,.he's just disassociating from (you)

>>712875735
I imagine Kris doesn't really care about what the SOUL thinks of it, only that it does what they need it to do for the sake of the plan.
(Of course, this could change over the course of the game. Kris doesn't seem to personally hold a grudge against the player, only trying to do everything to stop them from reading the code on the guitar.)

>>712875462
What's his Deviantart?

>>712874224
deltarune is so ancient this pic has the tumblr gif font

>>712875946
You're saying our existence is just an intrusive thought?

>>712873237
that pic is 9
out of 11!

>>712875883
*SNOWGRAVE

Kris is lying to himself, he enjoyed the doe rape.

>>712875921
how is this noelle it has no horns and has a sword

>>712875932
Knight playing poker with Undyne in the Bunker while waiting for Chapter 5.

>>712872528
Just because the left hates Jews doesn't mean you're in good company with the right, anon.

Here you guys go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbKUbhDVhIA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bxe6rLoKPU

>>712875921
I'm seeing LOVE alright

>>712875932
Do the knight either just being run over again by asgore or being destroyed by (you)

>>712875856
The Soul was probably given to him by whoever is in charge of whatever the fuck Carol/The Knight/Kris are up to, it's obviously something that he absolutely NEEDS to complete whatever his objective is, because after Snowgrave he would have fucking locked it in the birdcage forever if he could have
I'm definitely in the camp that believes Kris is being coerced into something against his will

>>712875851
It's more interesting for thread content if it is (us)
No point saying otherwise unless it's stated

>>712874923
Change my into me

>>712876025

>>712875856
We came to this world because of Gaster, but we were intercepted by a third party who implanted us into Kris. Everything indicates that this was a part of the plan Kris was a part of and that they expected our arrival.

>>712876002
it's a thought i have, some of kris's actions feels like what i wished was actually happening when i have intrusive thoughts, wish i could rip them out
toby is interested in themes of autonomy and that shouldn't only be relevant to game mechanics, it could be a plot thing too

>>712875531
what 6 hours of sleep across 3 days will do to a mf
kid's sleep deprived and stressed out of his mind
probably exhausted to from doing dark world shit

Kris should just let me do what I want

>>712876047

>>712875851
Proof of this is how the game has default choices when (You) skip chapters. Events played out the same, regardless of (You)r presence. (You) and the SOUL Kris is holding captive are different people, and (You) were brought in by Gaster to change how events play out, with the Weird Route being the first step towards doing that.

>>712875951
Can't be their soul, they're moving independent of it.

>>712876057
It's how things worked in Undertale, and Kris has had multiple personalities for a while going off what Susie and Noelle talk about.

>>712876025
She literally has a hood on her dark world outfit

>>712876025
>no horns
Your hood bro? The sword route drops a pretty heavy hint about it.

>>712875537
it's not use
you were born a shitter

>>712876067
Sandy Cheeks lookin-ass.

legg

>>712875476
>never knows when his brain demon is going to JUST fuck his shit up again

The soul isn't you. It's a manifestation of Kris's identity issues and dysmorphia - we make the soul do things that are representative of all of the "normal" expectations people have of Kris - date the cute girl next door, be sociable, engage with your schoolwork - things that are at odds with who Kris feels they truly are.

christ why is /v/ so obsessed with this game. this isn't even the general, this is the overflow general and its still the fastest thread on the board at all hours. were you all gay furries all along?

https://bsky.app/profile/tobyfox.undertale.com/post/3lrrhype5gk22
What do you think? Is he?

>>712875943
>noelle can equip the black shard, a sword
>LOVE finds its way to the girl

>>712876076
I would expect Kris to not hate us so much if we're doing exactly what they want then.

>Steal us from our vessel
>Bitch when you jam us in your body and we do anything you dislike
Not my problem, give me my body back

>>712875673
she seems like she'd be very bashful despite talking big game before it

>>712863980 (OP)
The rumors aren't true, are they? Noelle didn't actually get raped in the sweltering hot summer of '25, did she?

>>712875476
it has to be really disorienting for Kris
one moment the SOUL's all jolly and nice and shit but as soon as Noelle gets involved it starts acting all crazy, like control has been ripped away from it and given to something else, something worse

>>712875951
>Personally I think it's his soul,.he's just disassociating from (you)
Thats what I think as well. The metaphor of someone ripping out their own soul every time they're about to do something bad makes MUCH more sense than any of the schizo theories.

>>712876057
It isn't. (You) being some random asshole summoned into Kris' body is significantly less interesting. It's a boring, shitty idea with no impact on any of the characters or the setting and there's no way that's what Toby is aiming for. Sorry.
This goes for you as well >>712876134

I haven't been here for only a day and there's OC for Asgore running Dess over & a shortstack Imp Soul

>>712876134
> He's moving independent of it.
Yes but he seemingly can't be totally free from you, so disassociation is not off the table

>>712876194
Kris doesn't necessarily hate us in the Weird Route. They just really don't want (Us) and Susie from seeing the code on the guitar because it would fuck up whatever plan they're following.

>>712876207
Noelle is NOT your body!

So I haveth a laser pointere

>>712876192
He's budget spamton, but with his own issues.

>>712875837
one hundred percent kris has felt the inside of queen's iMac fleshlight

>>712876190
TWO WORDS
VIDEO
GAME

>>712876025
she just has the hoodie of her dark world outfit on
and she can equip the jingle blade and black shard
the thing on the back might be angel wings

>>712876192
i do find it funny how he was on the money with some people finding him to be a lesser spamtom.

>>712876282
She will be soon
Should've given my vessel back

why is she so smug?

>>712875235
/k/ in this context doesn't mean /k/ - Weapons, does it?

>>712875607
Just goes to show that that version of you is still down in there somewhere and you can be that again if you want to eventually

>>712876270
>Kris doesn't necessarily hate us in the Weird Route
idk anon this feels like seething hatred to me

>>712875673
I can easily see a scenario where they find a "human gives dragon a night to remember" promo and they laugh and joke over it only to start getting more and nore hot and bothered as the video goes on.
Eventually she will ask to see his dick. The rest is history

>>712876192
huh, toby predicted the backlash. good sign, it means he's listening. although the bsky and twitter reception is still gonna be a wall of positivity no matter what he puts out.

>>712876339
In the regular route, I mean. My bad.

>>712876270
I see, so they've taken a chance on us for the sake of generally progressing their plot but we are now doing more than they wanted from us and they don't like that.

>>712876189
Normal teenager things, like possessing a friend

>>712876270
>Kris doesn't necessarily hate us in the Weird Route.
He literally, and I do mean literally, beats us half to fucking death after PROCEEDing.

>>712872505
>>712873174
how does toby fox do it

>>712876339
i dont get how people see this scene and dont think kris hates (You)
one anon even said it was an empty bin, do these people actually comprehend what is happening

>>712876339

>>712876325
Would you like to know the truth?

>>712866098
I'm going back to undertale, doing a genocide route, and making it my final save

>>712876282
YET

>>712876247
after the whole scene in noelles house where this little bitch easily overpowers us, rips us out, and throws us in the gift room, fix himself something to drink, play the piano FOR EIGHT MINUTES STRAIGHT, aimbot us from anywhere in the room, and then be insanely active in trying to beat our ass in the closet.
I'm pretty sure that Kris CAN live without the SOUL, it's just that he can't complete the plan without it.

I really like the theory of the Weird Route being the original game/story path.

>>712876190
game of the decade & you're missing out lol

>>712876189
Lines up with what Ralsei says. Ripping off the soul is letting go of his principles and virtues.

>>712876445
shouldn't i wait 'til it's done then?

>>712876339
remember how deltatraveller had kris outright kill (You) if you 'went too far'?
yeah i don't think they could've predicted what'd ACTUALLY happen if you did something fucked up

>>712874006
Somehow you quoted my mother word for word

>>712876025
The ThornRing can be crafted into a sword.

>>712876189
Don't forget, killing everyone we see

>>712876416
needs a panel for playing the piano badly

>>712876192
YOU CANT GET THIS FROM AN EGG

>>712876416
to think some people playing this game are cucked enough to actually feel bad about any of it
you should take PRIDE in doing snowgrave

>>712876454
Then how come is Kris visibly upset about what you do on Snowgrave?
Unless... Kris DOES NOT actually care for Noelle, but knows that if the Weird Route goes on, the prophecy will not come true, thus frustrating Kris plans to destroy the world.

>>712876192
They're both 'desperate salesman' types, but Spamton has a real menace about him, he feels like a guy on a hair trigger who could blow your brains out at any time. All his frustrated outbursts came across as unhinged
Tenna is a much sadder person who realizes that his best days are behind him, but is still putting in the effort in hopes that maybe some day, things will be back to how they were. It's easier to empathize with him, he doesn't feel like he wants to hurt anyone. He just wants to be loved again

>>712876192
i think toby's on the money here. he's similar to spamton but if you consider the game as a whole they compliment each other.

>>712876192
I'm glad he didn't try to "out-evil" Spamton with Tenna

>>712875932
Catty or Catti trying to fit into Roaring Knight Armor.

>>712876189
Well the alternative is raping the cute girl next door and he REALLY doesn't like that, so he's just gonna have to cope with being functional.

>>712876372
That's a very surface level reading of it. The soul is the expectation that Kris and Noelle should be in a heterosexual relationship which neither of them wants. It's forced on Noelle just as much as it's forced on Kris.

>>712876529
True.

>>712876543
you hurt noelle in snowgrave what is NOT CLICKING

>Darkness is water
>ICE-E is made out of water
Ice-e is the final boss

>>712876543
Kris knows Noelle gets off on being scared. Snowgrave really was just a prank, like hiding under her bed or shaking the ferris wheel. The problem is when we went too far.

>>712872528
You will perish, apostate.

>>712876529
I'm one of those people, I'd rather watch Snowgrave on YouTube, seeing them suffer genuinely upsets me.

>>712876339
Chapter 4 Weird Route was pure kino. Too bad it didn't last the whole chapter

>>712876481
Well, it's sort of like television.

Enjoying it as it comes out, episode to episode, and engaging with fan discourse VS waiting for a whole season to be out and then binge watching it.

The second option is pretty much objectively worse in most scenarios, wouldn't you agree? You're not experiencing it in the same way as everybody else.

>>712873267
>Aunt M

>>712876190
To be perfectly honest I'm surprised too but I won't complain, being able to actually talk about shit feels like an oasis in a desert

>>712876192
seeing who spamton stole his whole schtick from was pretty great, so i think anyway

>>712876194
>>712876367
>>712876371
Kris puts up with us in the normal route.
They're really freaked out by us doing the Shadow Crystal stuff, as evident by them screaming they're not alright after the Spamton fight.
Kris despises us in Weird Route but apparently they're so desperate to work with us they HAVE to keep going.

>>712876589
What do ice cubes look like?
Glass
What do you put your ice cubes in?
Glass
What are black shards?
Glass
What are shadow crystals?
Glass

>>712876602
lmao pussy

>>712875408
I really can't buy that. They walk back how he acted in conversation after the fact but King really is an abusive asshole who doesn't care for his son

>>712875372
I figure that's still what happened. I'm wondering what the Heart and Diamond kings are up to now that they left with the animals. They probably won't be relevant but they'll be doing something out there

>>712876587
Nah, hear me out guys clearly it was consensual

>>712876529
Toby calling out this behavior a decade ago and it's still just as relevant as it was back then.

>>712876543
If he didn't care he wouldn't bother with comforting her or even with taking Berdly to the hospital. Maybe you can argue he's enjoying this on a subconscious level but he very clearly cares about his classmates and doesn't want them to be hurt

Its gonna suck if the knight is revealed to be anyone but Dess

>>712876631
idk i like complete experiences. i'll keep an eye on it i guess. its clearly got you lot by the balls.

I would sell my left nut I would get a giant spade tattoo on my face (like Lancer) if it would convince Toby not to make Suselle happen.

>>712876481
The discussions, theories, schizoposting and jokes in between chapter releases is half the fun

>>712875851
>Like Frisk in Undertale, it will be its own character.
Frisk is the body, Kris in deltarune is the body. It is its own character.
The soul is (you), aka Chara. What people forget is that Chara never says "I am Chara", he says "I am [insert your name here]". It's you, you're the demon. Saying its another character is just cope, you killed everyone and you're the maniac.
Same thing in the pacifist ending, you're the one controlling frisk but you aren't frisk.

>>712875921
the images are stylistic, much in the same way the dark prince isn't a 1-1 rendering of ralsei's hooded version

>>712876605
Seeing Jackoffstein die at the tower bit was cinema.

>>712863980 (OP)
every single piece of fanart i ahve seen from this shit seems to be heavely sexualized garbage

>>712876192
he's right on the money that them being a divorced couple is really really funny

>>712876576
i think its just trying to brute force something that could have been but didn't due to tragic circumstance and time.

>>712876708
Genuinely, unironically, I believe it is at least a member of the Holiday family.

>>712876592
you're selfish, prostate.

>>712876708
Rudy would probably be the curveball option

>>712876703
How? He doesn't have a SOUL without us. And it's clear on that you cannot feel empathy without a SOUL.

>>712876736

Tenna is easily the best main story boss right?

>>712876190
it's an interesting game and i have been waiting for an update and i am entertaining myself replying to anons questions or theories
is the rest of the catalog so braindead that you've resorted to watching 4stats instead of posting about vidya?

>>712875921
The group who think 'the girl' doesn't refer to Susie are honestly too stupid to be referred to as 'people'.

They're something lesser.

>>712876781
that's monster SOULs
human SOULs are something else

>>712876787
he's not as funny like queen but yeah, definitely.

>>712876763
I don't know how Kris and Noelle's relationship can be read any further than them being good friends at best, especially considering how obviously homosexual Noelle is.

>>712876481
you could if you only care about the end, but you might be waiting another 10 years
schizo theorying with /v/ on what we know is half the fun

>>712874984
Some of Toby's dialogue is feeling like a fanfic, Susie doesn't need to extrapolate what happened, make her act normal, like make her reach out to Kris's arm to pull it out and say "Stop biting your hand! What happened...? Damn, I shouldn't have told that story... I'm sorry"

>>712876787
Mechanically? Probably the most fun. WarioWare-ifying the boss battle was neat.

>>712876667
>them screaming they're not alright after the Spamton fight.
I forgot this happens wtf.
>>712876787
Queen fight was the most fun

I think Rudy will be the final boss of the weird route. Somehow he'll be manifested in the dark world and take revenge for his daughter.

>>712876803
Anyone who thinks the prophecy isn't bullshit to begin with needs to get Gersonpilled.

>>712876814
Ok then how come Chara is depicted to be pure evil because they lost their soul? You'd think they'd still love monsters even without a soul following that logic, but they don't.

game theory
>(you), susie, and kris' classmates are the only ones not in the loop about the prophecy
>a number of adults in town, plus kris and ralsei, know exactly how the prophecy goes down and is actively working to avoid it
>(you) are unknowingly (or possibly even knowingly, theres an even more unhinged theory for this) fulfilling the prophecy by doing the normal route
>kris has been briefed on this, which explains why hes actively antagonistic to (you) even if (you)re a goody two shoes
>kris' "promise" is to follow the plan no matter what
>this involves keeping everyone else in the dark, which is why he got the call reminding them of their promise just before they went out to talk to susie
>by the end of the game, all of this is either revealed outright or is heavily implied
>the plan fails anyway, prophecy happens, bad end
>heavily implied that a very strong ice mage was needed
>weird route is (you)r attempt to save the one(s) sacrificed in the prophecy, kris has no idea why (you)re doing what (you)re doing to noelle, things get much more extreme as time goes on, begins to parallel UT genocide where every major character tries to prevent (you) from going through with it
>weird route doesnt stop the prophecy either. only one ending bitch.
rate my tedx talk.

>they're coming out of the pipes
>ERAM ("mare")
hm...

so why did kris not simply just take the piece of paper from the guitar

>>712876190
talking about your headcanons feels so good when you don't got a bitch half your age on your ear yelling about pronouns, that's the real reason we don't go to the general

>>712876192
I'm glad that he didn't chicken out on it desu.

>>712876803
Man you are going to feel so impossibly stupid when the world's most obvious foreshadowing proves you wrong

>>712876787
queen's a better character, and honestly i preferred the punch out to the warioware. its close though.

>>712875673
Instant loss

>>712876747
>Dude why is there porn on 4chan, this game must be pornographic
why are you 2016 newfags so fucking stupid?
How many games have I seen this sentiment around, by now? Is this your first day on the website? Enjoy dying in iran faggot

>>712876892
did someone say mare?
mare mare mare mare I love them snowpity snowpity mare mare mare

>>712876781
>And it's clear on that you cannot feel empathy without a SOUL.
Is it? We don't know much about Deltarune souls, at all. You're just assuming things like everyone else

>>712876893
kris is a bit retarded
>gains control of body
>first thing he does is chug chocolate milk and loudly play the piano

>>712872774
The thorn came from the cactus. The cactus represents love. We love Noelle and will make her stronger so we can push forward and achieve true freedom

then entirety of chapter 4 is literally breaking depictions of the prophecy and you faggots are still talking about it
are you all mentally retarded?

>>712875583
true gamer at heart, plunging into the dark to face destiny head on
my biggest (c/h)ope is that the story will properly acknowledge that the soul is stupidly strong, but in a more positive way than "don't deal with the devil" of weird route
making a proper tandem with kris, getting your own vessel, winning ""unbeatable"" fights like ch3 knight, or maybe even NG+ with extra story content is the sort of shit i wanna see, what else am i training doing hitless for?

>>712876787
It's TV Time! is the best main boss theme and I'm tired of pretending it isn't.

>>712876708
rudy knight kinda works, but i don't know how that's going to work with his illness
carol knight is the bait option, i don't think it's her
dess knight is clearly who you're supposed to think it is
noelle knight is the insane pick, iirc she zones out when exposed to cold for too long, there could be some mind fuckery going on there

>>712876893
kris may be stupid or somehow it would slip out and susie would find it

>>712876883
Chara was a sociopath even before they lost their SOUL. They came up with a plan to kill themselves and then have Asriel murder a bunch of people, after all. But they weren't outright EVIL until you taught them to be over the course of Genocide.

>>712876891
Correct about Snowgrave leading to the same ending
But there is a way to go inbetween the lines...

>>712876948
I think even in DELTARUNE, the rules of that world share the same metaphysical maxims of UNDERTALE. Perhaps Kris can feel empathy on Snowgrave exactly because you're breaking the metaphysical maxims of this universe.

>>712876708
>>712876776
Definitely Rudy, he has the angle of using the dark world to cure his monster AIDS and is able to leave the hospital without raising alarms

>>712876859
>Gets the Darkner treatment because he's technically an object in the light world
>Is given a fragment of power like the other secret bosses
>Does not use it
>Says fuck the prophecy
>Teaches Susie to be more confident
>Could easily 1v1 a Titan
>Explains fuck all
>Goes back to being dead again
I thought he was a little based in Undertale, but he's gigabased now.

>>712876958
god i love that lil nigga
I listened to the whole concert

>>712874984
>>712875476
Weird route has some kino moments for tormenting Kris, even if they're probably not the "correct" choice. For example, "play again someday" is probably the correct choice for Weird Route, since Noelle likes to hear Kris play. Of course, sometimes the mean options are also correct, like trying to pray for the girl you made Kris mindbreak

>>712876803
>Gerson: Read between the lines
>Gerson: Use your pen and write your own ending
chapter 4 repeatedly tells you to not take the prophecy at face value

>>712876974
WRONG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPwzoZ-e664

if tenna and spamton fucked again i'm pretty sure they wouldn't be such sad sacks of shit anymore

>>712876940
bold of you to assume toriel wouldn't seethe at asgore feeling the slightest hint of joy

>>712876986
>>712876958
literally could have even swallowed it, i get toby was trying to prove a point for the ones in the back but it was really goofy to go with the chase scene

>>712876747
sex is gud :))))

>>712877008
That's my point, they were morally dubious before they lost their soul, but became completely devoid of any emotion after they lost it. In that vein, Kris is also soulless, wouldn't that make his deeds towards Berdly and Noelle purely performative? Kris has a goal we are unaware of after all.

>>712876893
I'd say he has less Dexterity or whatever due to him literally dying but the dude nailed me with a hockey puck while he was hiding under a bed, so I have no excuse.

I get weird route but why does the game act like beating the shadow bosses is bad?

>>712874984
the biting sound effect really does it. Sounds like he bit a fucking chunk off

>>712877116
it doesn't?

>>712876747
I yearn for what I don't have. Leave me alone.

>>712876667
>They're really freaked out by us doing the Shadow Crystal stuff, as evident by them screaming they're not alright after the Spamton fight.
I have a theory that Kris was actually a kid that was scared of the dark and creepy stuff. He surely had incredible imagination, since he played pretend with a plug adapter.
If you notice, in his room, the lamp is closer to the bed than Asriel's, and he sleeps with the curtains open so the light of the moon goes inside.
I'd imagine he saw the world with lights off like that part where Friend shows up in the cutscene. It'd explain his fear of ICE-E coming out of the pipes and bathbombing it. It'd explain him screaming in Spamton basement. It'd explain the random Friend appearances.

>>712877116
But it doesn't?

>>712874006
I don't have it saved, but one anon some days ago put it the best: Kris is a cheater in video games, and he applies that logic into his life too - because it is a game. He wants it all, but he doesn't want to work for it, and has a meltdown when it comes back to bite him.

>>712876835
its a mix of
>her pathetic denial of her prior feelings towards Kris(imo her reaction to the "good or bad" question really sells it)
>how she acts towards Kris right before the equip in snowgrave
and then less damning stuff like
>how every other line that Noelle says to Kris is about them being really really close in the past
>kris's reactions in the closet

>>712876215
We're doing it for his own good

>>712874984
Brother sounded like he was taking a bite out of a Crisp Apple.
He caused some actual damage with that chomp

>>712877059
forgot this existed. pretty good but i also forgot it so i have to dock points.

i love these two 0 self-esteem losers together and telling+shoeing each other they sre worthy of love

>>712877116
only in sword route and its only played for fore (retro?) shadowing though

>>712877116
How so?
The only one that seems negative is Spamton but that's because you're seeing the flaming crash of a dudes life in a way that Kris empathizes with and that's not a Why did you do This more of a we really wish this didn't have to happen sort of way

>>712876190
It's a good game that is fun to play

>>712863980 (OP)
is this actually worth playing?

>>712875932
The knight with bunny suit and huge bust

>>712877010
dunno, i like the idea that the prophecy is a prophecy and cant be avoided, no matter the circumstances. the only difference is how its approached and what becomes of the aftermath. a "good" ending would be making peace with it and saying goodbyes before all of the characters take their place on the stage.

>>712876192
At first I didn't really get that they had a history together, and forgot all the 'kill your tv' spamton sweepstakes stuff. The way both characters *can* speak and act normally but continually put on some crazed showman personality makes me laugh and elevates both of them to me. Even though we gave Tenna away it would be nice if they could put the past behind them in the future.

>>712877175
For some reason I was expecting a Facade edit.

>>712877059
At first I was kind of annoyed but I like the running joke that King is kind of just forgettable.

>>712877179
>I'll never play again
>tries to bite his hand to fight back
>high chance of permanently damaging his hand, hindering his ability to play
this kid is downright retarded

>>712876484
God deltatraveler is so bad

>>712876215
Priorities

>>712876787
Everyone is saying queen is better but her jokes are so outdated on so...xitter-esque that it made me cringe in some scenes. She's good but not as good as Tenna, hope we get more of him

>Deltarune is careening into being yet ANOTHER Twin Peaks ripoff where a town's dark secret results in the corruption and death of a missing girl
Bravo Tobert

>>712877265
How CATHARTIC did it feel to make that post anon

>>712876454
nigger, the soul follows all your commands, including crawling through the vents.

your mental illness isn't crawling in the vents

>>712875921
She's literally the only character in the game with a snout. I fucking hate schizo theorists

>>712877116
if you are talking about the mantle part where 8bit kris has to kill ralsei and susie, that'd just foreshadowing what he does at the end of the knight fight if you win it

>>712875921
Wasnt there a theory that dess doesnt have horns? Maybe the theory refers to her, she fell in love with asriel maybe

>>712877116
it's not that the process of beating the shadow bosses is bad, it's more that what you find out in the revelations are bad
>unlocking Spamton reveals that he went insane
>unlock chapter 3 shadow boss has the whole genocide story retelling
only chapter 4 where gerson specifically chooses not to use the shadow crystal is the unlock conditions relatively normal

>>712877151
>>712877163
>Beat Spamton
>Kris freaks out
>Do the game
>Outright calls Kris evil
>Beating the knight gives Toriel a nightmare while losing she has a nice dream
Gerson doesn't have any ominous warnings as far as I know

>>712876849
I feel like the reason Kris freaks out so much about the Spamton fight is because he's a much better mirror to them than we thought.
Think about it, a poor sucker led astray by voices on the phone that promised to give him everything he wanted, but only led to his downfall? I think both this and the Shadow Mantle game force Kris to confront what they're doing a lot more than they want to, which is not at all.

>>712877024
>>712876983
I get the impression that the motive no matter what is probably someone who desperately wants to protect Noelle or something

>>712877246
it kills me that his importance begins and ends at just being the king of spades in a deck and the kings of hearts/clubs/diamonds just got stuck in a corner so that's why he assumed total power for a while

>>712877252
It's not about that
It's about not messing up Susie opening up emotionally to him

>>712877203
we've been obsessively posting about it day and night for two weeks straight, anon, what did you think we were going to say.

>>712877252
>>high chance of permanently damaging his hand, hindering his ability to play
Nigga wat
Unless he bites into his wrist where he'll tear ligaments (and veins) he'll just be bleeding. That is if he even broke the skin.

>>712876689
>she says thank you later, and tells her mom she is looking forward to going on a date with you

bitch craved that attention

>>712877319
kek

>>712877314
When it's executed well it's a really fun story though. Don't care if it's the 5th time or the 20th time.

>>712876192
if 2, 3 and 4 had all been released at once (which was the original plan), people would likely have seen them more as equals. the issue was putting way too much time between them, which put way too big of an expectation on tenna.

>>712876067
>chapter 5 weird route noelle

>>712876215
Yeah, Toby is sending a clear message that you shouldn't force queer people into being straight unless you're legitimately evil

>>712877347
that is simply because they can't handle the truth

>>712877314
HWNBDV
(He Will Never Be David Lynch)

>>712877379
To be fair, the most successful games for the past ~15 years have been games that people hate playing. Live service, MMOs, League of Legends, nobody likes it but they sink all their time into it and post about it.

>>712877153
>Kris keeps being me more and more
wtf Toby

>>712876736
Implying Ralsei is the prince. Ralsei's prophecy was "a prince FROM the dark" while the church's prophecy is "a prince" that is "alone in deepest dark", but not from the dark.
He also doesn't conjure up flames.

>>712874551
Of all the speculation and foreshadowing and stupid memes, Ultra Berdly is honestly so fucking great that I've deluded myself into thinking that it *will* happen.
>Gamers don't die, they respawn
>The only hit point that matters is the last one
>Grinding is for scrubs
>"Battle against a true gamer"
I may or may not have a bias towards silly characters that can back their shit up if need be.

>>712877312
Glad to see I still remember the kanji for kill despite not practicing for over a year. No clue what the soul is saying in the bottom panel though.

>>712876502
>everyone thought twisted blade was for kris
>it's for noelle
oh god oh fuck

>>712877296
Soak her with milk and slam her into a wall

>>712877417
You're probably not wrong.

>>712877347
>Beating the knight gives Toriel a nightmare while losing she has a nice dream
That's because she could feel that her son just betrayed her friends in an extremely physical and intimate way. Imagine having a dream about your son fighting a force of evil, one that if they actually stop it could save people. Only for your son to literally stab his friends in the back to let the evil escape and capture an innocent bystander.
That's the stuff of nightmares.

>>712877347
In weird route, Gerson has interactions with Kris where he see s that he's having 'relationship troubles' and tells him that he needs to keep living despite how bleak things look. There's also the scene where Kris gets so in to eating the able he bites in to the seeds

>>712876282
We will be inside her (again) by route's end

>>712877417
but kriselle isn't straight...

>>712877452
>flames
light up ACT
he's somehow hiding his fire-making abilities from (You) so you can't make him do things we're doing to Noelle, I would imagine

>>712876189
>>712876543
>>712876454
kids so scared of taking responsibility for their actions nowadays they'd run for the mental gymnastics olympics just to avoid thinking they raped the doe

>>712877497
If the Knight wanted to hurt people they would have done so

>>712877448
well yeah, but those aren't singleplayer story-based games that you complete in a single sitting. if a pixel art rpg made by mostly by one guy inspires threads like these it means its a powerfully deranging work of genius that has made men and women all over the continent its bitch.

>>712877314
That's right

>>712877246
>King is kind of just forgettable.
The fact that he's the forgotten long dead class hamster is hilarious to me
>His cage, his teeth and overall build, even asked for Queen to pick him up some peanuts
But I fully expect him to come back at some point for a rematch. Probably with Queen

>>712877452
>He also doesn't conjure up flames.
he can technically using "light up" but he doesn't use it for combat ever (it is probably lethal)

>>712877065
i think their relationship is over... spamton abandoned him at their height of their duo

>>712877347
Gerson says that trying to complete the story ended up swallowing up the author (himself) and that the next generation never continued it. Then he encourages Susie to write her own legend, risking being the next author swallowed up by their own work.
As Ralsei says in the Snowgrave route (paraphrasing) "if we can change the ending, how do we know it won't be even worse?" The ability to break the chains of fate and grasp true freedom also means the freedom to absolutely fuck everything up and destroy your own life.

>>712877313
I didn't care for Queen too much. King Dad was a cool boss but too short. Titan was fun and had great music but I thought Tenna had the best presence and boss fight.

>>712877523
I think anons forget toby is a hardcore leftist, no matter how many mistakes he makes in portray Kris as a NB. So the whole "forcing x to be attracted to a x" interpretations don't track.

>>712877553
It's just the same mentality as the people who keep insisting Chara is at fault for the genocide route. Some people just can't accept that they're the ones pressing buttons

>>712875310
>Chapter 5 pacifist route, all the bosses help beat the knight with you
>snowgrave its only you and Noelle

>>712876602
FAG

>>712877321
i know the red heart was made into something more tangible this time around but it doesn't mean it can't stand for some sort of metaphor

>>712876014
*Summons a fucking fire tornado*

>>712876605
Chapter 5 will be where the real fun begins

>>712877630
>

>>712877561
They can only act in the dark world. People can be legitimately hurt there, and they clearly don't care about others being caught in the blast radius of their target (Berdley)
The Knight is 100 percent a deadly threat. Not to mention just going batshit and unleashing a titan. There will be deadly consequences down the road

>>712877592
I just want toby to not chicken out and stop the weird route in chapter 5 like how most people are coping out of here

>>712877321
>your mental illness isn't crawling in the vents
how do you know it isn't

>>712877314
>you, a faggot: It's Twin Peaks AGAIN
>me, a chad: It's Twin Peaks again!

>>712877649
this is the height of metanarrative fuckery. undertale is unsurpassable.

>>712877592
>#
>Gerson says that trying to complete the story ended up swallowing up the author (himself) and that the next generation never continued it.
God he really is just GRRM

>>712877627
Sadly

>>712877671
Jimmy from mouth washing, Damn the crossover I didn't expect to happen

>>712877321
>your mental illness isn't crawling in the vents
I'm stealing this one, thanks

>>712876529
>>712876701
>do bad things
>gets rewarded for it
what did toby mean by this?

>>712877587
>spamton was so close to being famous like he wanted but gaster just had to make him a schizo and lose everything
what could've been

>>712877321
My mental illness is coming out of the pipes.

>>712877592
>Gerson says this, believing Susie holds the pen
>Says Kris has the pen
>Gerson laughs
>"IS THAT SO?!"
>"IS THAT SO?!"
kino

>>712877568
he somehow manages to be the one with the most powerful truth nukes

>>712877795
Susie will be the last obstacle in our way on the weird route

>>712875921
Why is she holding a sword? If the prophecy is 100% accurate, it must be someone else.

>>712877321
>your mental illness isn't crawling in the vents
it definitely is

>>712876667
Kris freaks out after the Spamton fight because of Spamton's obsession for Kris' soul and talking about being free

>>712877460
Says to keep proceeding

>>712877778
American dev

>>712874597
>Kris is a good kid underneath his initial Gremlin shit
I kinda love that Kris is just a teen who thinks he's edgy, but weird route is basically scaring him straight by showing him some REAL fucked up shit.

>>712877787
why does he want my selected ambient works?

>>712877838
Susie will wield the black shard when we take control of her.

>>712877838
That's when she hosts (You). The sword is (You)r weapon

>>712875932
knight eating a burger

>>712877673
If the Knight wanted people dead, they would have just killed Susie and Ralsei right there and made off with both Toriel and Undyne. They had perfect opportunity to. They could have even just injured Susie. They didn't.
It's been made very clear that that's not what the Knight is out to do. Things would be much simpler if they were going after their goals by any means necessary. There'd be bodies already.

>>712877795
Anyone got that one video of Ralsei looking back at you when you put the bow on Susie?

>>712877314
>Having the keys to the school closet, that kept me in a fantasy world.
>That became my reality. I ignored the squalor in my own life because I'm looking at life, you see, through Ralsei's eyes.
>Living in twilight Kris, living in the shadows. Living in the darkness, like you.
>Me?
>Oh yeah, I can barely see you Kris.
>Stop it Susie, you're freaking me out!
>Do you ever yearn?
>Yearn? Do I yearn?
>I yearn.
>You yearn?
>Oh yes, yes I yearn.
>Often I sit and... I yearn. Have you yearned?
>Well not recently, I craved. I crave all the time, constant craving.
>But I haven't yearned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1LKngBaIW4

>>712877041

Imagine if we could start the game in Noelle instead of Kris... Imagine.

>>712877926
I feel like there's a red Herring to the police sacrifice

>>712877998
>In
Better late than never I suppose

>>712877926
This goat cannot be trusted. He says nothing but fucking lies

>>712877969
Jesus fucking christ
Need a Deltarune mod that replaces Lost Girl with Laura Palmer's theme

>>712877630
I've been hoping that Toby doesn't make a character at the end for people to cop out with again, but apparently their mental illness is so powerful they don't even need that.

>>712877994
Why is he so upset about praying for his new bestest friend?

>>712878091
He's just jealous we're not praying for him

>>712877059
I love the Legend motif at 1:08. I hope we see more of it down the line

>>712878021
Fish Punnery aside
There must be more key codes deeper in. I can't imagine the knight would need to kidnap someone who knows the code to enter the place they can easily escape into. So undyne is probably tied up being worked over until she spits up whats needed
But she's so into this shit she probably asks for more just so she can be defiant.

>>712878091
That (You) have the gall to do that after what (You) did. That or taking it as sarcasm and getting fucking pissed at how much of a fuck you are. Like you are mockingly "praying" for Noelle because you plan more fucked up shit for her in the future.

>>712877905
>>712877908
We can juat say anything if we get to this point. Its clearly gonna be Dess with a Bat

Diegetically, what's the point of the basement to Queen's castle? Like sure it's where you fight Neo Spamton, but why does the queen of a computer-themed Dark World have a basement that looks like just an ordinary non-cyber dungeon, with some weird giant body laying around, locked behind a lock only unlockable by something Spamton possesses?

Best I can think of is that it actually corresponds with something in the real world. Some sort of weird password-protected file associated with all the Dess shit on Noelle's laptop, maybe?

>>712878091
>Go ahead and pray for her puppet. It's only going to get worse from here!

>>712878176
What do you more fucked up shit, it was all wholesome and consensual.

>>712878250
recycle/ trash bin
iirc swatch says that whoever made the neo body deleted it, and in the light world we see some remnants of it in the garbage

>>712878250
Probably represents getting past the Library's parental blocks.

>>712878250
a virus, encrypted file, the trash bin, obsolete bullshit (notice how the walls of the basement are floppydisks)

>>712876734
>The soul is (you), aka Chara
>(you), aka Chara
Absolutely not true, your actions can make Chara's soul manifest in the world because of all the determination fuckery, but Flower Asriel and Sans both literally acknowledge you as an outside entity that is controlling Frisk. The same can be true in Deltarune depending on what lore drops in most likely chapter 5 or 6

>>712878250
>unlockable by something Spamton possesses?
KEYGEN is basically a skeleton key, it brute forces its way past the lock and then breaks

>>712878250
It's the hexcode where the remnants of deleted files that haven't been overwritten lie

>>712878250
It's the deep garbage. When you delete a file it isn't actually removed. It's just marked to be overwritten to make space essentially freed up but still there. It can be recovered in some cases, too. If you have the knowhow
I think Seam says that it clearly must have meant a lot to someone, and given that it's essentially Mettaton Neo it can be guessed that the depressed Ghost poured some of their heart into doodling an ideal body in mspaint at the computer lab, and that lingered in this dreamed up body for Spamton to try to hijack

>>712878250
Any of:
>Trash bin
>Uncleaned interior of a PC
>ROOTS

>>712878163
Tenna mentioned that Toriel would be in grave danger if she was awake. I suspect the dark world corrupts the minds of adults who become fully aware of it or something. Maybe Undyne is being turned into another minion?

>>712875921
Susie comments on that being her way to much for it to actualy be her. She doesnt even comment that they are holding a sword when her whole thing is axes.

>>712877627
>>712877735
It's extremely funny seeing someone get upset at "Noelle being turned straight" and getting hammered with a bunch of downvotes/angry replies on any social media

>>712878074
Couldn't you just replace the file with laura palmer's theme and rename it to whatever the filename for lost girl is? Or would that not work?

>>712878604
Oh I dunno, never messed around with any of Deltarune's files so I don't know how simple it'd be

I think Tenna is the first boss I'd hang out with. Just sit on the couch and play vidya and let him crack jokes.

>>712878479
Interesting idea. I always assumed that was meant that if she were awake during the transport the knight would be forced to silence her by violent means and Tenna didn't want that
But the idea of them getting all fucked up would be wild.
We're gonna enter the shelter and get harpooned just like Undertale all over again.

>>712877024
He didnt cough once at church. Him, Asgore, and Carol are all planning something, and i believe it is Rudy that enjoys baseball and would use it as a weapon. Dess would have had to get into baseball through one of the Holidays.

>>712876190
Or, you could stop the furry cop out excuse and just accept the fact that maybe a game that subverts a lot of rpg stereotypes in a fun way with an objectively unique story that had a lot of foreshadowing traits inherited from undertale that breaks the 4th wall in a way that isn't dogshit compared to 99% of other media that does it is an engaging game for what it's worth.

>>712878021
The entire phone call was chopped up with missing words everywhere. It's definitely going to be a "the real phone call is the opposite of what the player heard at the time."

>>712878570
Still I'm pretty sure Toby has a rape fetish

>>712876850
Revenge for what?
It was all to make her Stronger.

>>712876339
valid crashout

>>712878680
He'd be a great twitch streamer

>>712878176
>That (You) have the gall to do that after what (You) did.
It is genuinely what she would have wanted.
Noelle would and has judging by icepalace_glaceir done Snowgrave.
What Kris doesn't know is that (We) are already Noelle even if we aren't controlling her.

>>712877845
And now we know Kris is also being strung along by a voice from the phone

>>712876787
somewhat fittingly he got cucked out of being the final boss of his own chapter

>>712878680
tfw his desperation would never get annoying because all i do is rot in front of my tv

>>712878680
same i'd caress his thighs too

>>712876282
Just watch me hop inside her and the first thing I do is sucking a lot of cocks throughout the chapter I'm not gay I swear hahahaha

>>712877568
>way past his prime
>was only testing his student
>still kicked massive amounts of ass
This dude could solo the knight

>>712879062
Noelle would do that in college anyways

>>712877330
What snout? You think whoever that is is looking upwards like a retard?

>>712879062
>not staying faithful to your childhood friend

>>712878723
i hear you but like be real lad it's a pixel art art rpg. its nearly half the price of expedition 33. there are games with voice acting, music that comes from instruments and not a computer, state of the art animation and lifelike fidelity. does this game really merit the amount of attention you've given it?

>>712876787
Snowgrave Spamton is goated

I LOVE TV!

Why doesn't Kris cut his hair?

>>712879219
But can (You) do the TV pose?

>>712879226
he has meta knowledge so he knows that he can see without needing to cut it
you cannot convince me that he made the shot in noelles house with the syrup bottle through his tangled mangled hair

>>712879206
it might seem weird to you but i like the game and i don't judge shit i play based on if i can see a literal who actress's pores

>>712879206
Completely brainwashed zoomer

>>712879219

>>712879219

>>712879447
>>712879332
look at all the clown emojis on the steam reviews. this is a small little game and you lads are way too into it. doesn't deserve the glaze.

>>712875932
Knight with some monster hunter ass clownsuit for the stats

>>712879206
It has soul Shill 33 doesn't

>>712879219
shake that ass tv man

>>712879650
look, buddy, have you even played it? clair obscur is the year's most soulful release and the clear best game. you're just trying to cut the tall poppy.

>>712879582
Just out of curiosity, have you played any of it? If no, are you ever planning to play it? If still no, what is it that made you want to discuss it here?

>>712877314
It's the best Twin Peaks ripoff by far.
Deadly Premonition sucks dick btw.