Thread 712960894

>I downloaded. Seeded. I bribed anons to cover up the emulation of other games. I am an accessory to piracy.
>But the most damning thing of all. I think I can live with it.
> I can live with it.

>>712960894 (OP)
>my least favorite of the older series was the only one that got a pretty great game
Elite Force is real cool. If only it wasn't god damn Voyager.

>>712961016
>Commander.....
>I want you to upload the dumps of every existing Switch 2 title onto github

>>712960894 (OP)
I think Sisko is an extremely kino captain up there (And I'd say bested by but ADMITTEDLY Sisko's kinocitsticity was muffled by the fact that DS9 largely had better stories than TOS so there's less focus on the ham so there is still an argument for Sisko but) with Kirk

ALSO every once in a while I get the slight urge to load up STO again. I don't even know if it's as free-to-playable as it was back when I actually played, don't know if the level cap's raised, DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT ANYTHING but that fucking game with the weird grim darkness of the distant future focus to have warfare everywhere was really comfortable and nice to quest in. Zipping around the map. Sending your underlings off on their gay little away missions and getting new rare underlings which is mostly pointless but it's fun bullshit to do while flying. Getting as many exotic female alien bridge crew as you could and giving them gigantic tits so they'd be bouncing around with you on away missions. In so many ways it was a bad Star Trek game but whatever the fuck it is or was I liked it

>>712961360
Its still level 65. Some of the ship in 2024 were great. For example, this bundle was in rememberance of some of the old Star Trek games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrKcr4lYx9E

>>712961360
Its still level 65. Some of the ship in 2024 were great. For example, this bundle was in rememberance of some of the old Star Trek games
Wrong link. Dunno why this wasn't the first result
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqeY3mNHUA0

>>712960894 (OP)
>I can live with it.

There should be a Star Trek RPG by now.

>>712960894 (OP)
>comparing piracy to murder
lmao, a starving ex dev made this thread

>>712961898
Sadly STO is probably the best you can get at the moment. Can you really trust anyone making RPG these days?

>>712961732
Very nice, video does make me wanna reinstall. Did they do a graphics update at some point or is that just a completely bullshit trailer 'cause that looks a hell of a lot cleaner than I remember. The ship with the cannons though MAN that's some good shit

>>712960894 (OP)
Yes! Yes! That's right, isn't it? I knew it! I've always known it! I should've Seeded every last one of them! I should've turned their servers into a piracy hub the likes of which the FBI had never seen! I should have Seeded them all.

>>712962350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2vebJkoulI&t=139s

>>712962261
They just make newer ship look better, like this for example. Its still the same shit that you play many years ago I assume.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvEfuYl_-Lw

i fucking love old star trek, man

>>712962350
>>712962507
I like her new hair better

>>712960894 (OP)
Dream Crew from this line up?

>>712962717
why the fuck are you staring at me like that

>>712962276
>create a hub for seeding all those games
>dies in hell fire
Appropriate

>>712962592
i semi-secretly love nutrek too. snw and ld weren't nearly as good as old trek but i still like them enough. and even std is redeemed if you like watching michael and the architecture of the cathedral that is tilly

I've given it a lot of thought, and in all likelihood Kira Nerys had a hairy pussy. Dr. Crusher might have as well.

>>712960894 (OP)
>Seeded
They need to start giving out trophies for volunteer work that actually helps the world

>>712962757
Odo solos everyone

>>712963053
https://youtu.be/j_2gLtAoFMg

>>712960894 (OP)
DS9
>What if Star Trek but everyone is evil and hates each other?
DS9 is a fucking soap opera colored in star trek

>>712963108
based
fuck odo

>>712963109
but that's why it's a kino on the edge of the federation and expanding it

>>712963109
>everyone is evil
Hardly anyone is evil. Even Dukat has his upside.

>>712963109
>and hates each other?
It build growth to a point where we see lots of character growth, and I love it for it. It made Nog earning his place in Starfleet well earned than fucking Crusher. It brought out the best of Worf. It make scene like this a lot more impactful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLtRyb_HeB8.

>>712962757
>Janeway's completely dogshit team
>her expression at this situation
makes me laugh every time

>>712963464
>Riker looking at her
>"Yeah, we're FUCKED."

For me, it's Quark going on Regis and Kathie Lee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sUYcJ5lOBI
There's also a segment from a few years later that's probably borderline lost where Regis had someone do him up in professional Ferengi makeup and went around Manhattan harassing people.

>>712960894 (OP)

Siskonwas my favorite due to him not giving a shit about rules and regulations.
While enforcing his own.

>>712961969
I play it, but I'll never forgive them for making Romulans a non-faction

>>712963649
Regis seemed to like having fun on his show

>>712962757
Who's the woman between Bashir and Kim? I'm drawing a blank. Is that supposed to be Troi?

>Here! Have a seed of Diablo IV!
>Ah! No thank you I'm not particularly fond of RPGs right now.
>I insist!
>I said no thank you. I never seed without a VPN captain.. it's bad for the ISP...
>In this case that's something of an understatement.... because in that seed is enough malware and bitcoin miners to burn out a diven graphics cards... it was posted on the forums less than 20 minutes ago...

>>712963308
TNG was always on the edge. The only thing about expanding space in DS9 IS DS9 itself.
>>712963324
I am using the term loosely. All characters are shit for the sake of drama. They establish that Sisko is not suited for Star Fleet the moment they show his anger against picard for what he did as a borg.
>>712963368
Nog was the only character grown I remember and you had to wade through "not Wesley Crusher" to watch that happen

>>712963817
jesus, i have no idea either

>>712963649
Man the 90s look comfy as fuck

Despite being prefect of Bajor for 50% of the occupation, less than 33% of all Bajoran deaths happened under Dukat. They didn't know how lucky they were to have him

>>712963817
Gotta be Troi
>>712963464
Every team has got some dead weight or odd redundancies, Picard seems most balanced even with Uhura

>>712963817
Boob telepath front TNG
>I sense the bad guy is hiding something

>>712962757
>Janeway doesn't get a doctor
I guess Tom is going to be pulling double shifts

>>712960894 (OP)
I like star trek but never played a star trek game.
Didn't even know they existed actually. What should I start with bros?

>>712962757
I cam only imagine McCoy & Quark's conversations

>>712962757
Who is the more underutilized first officer: Riker or Chakotay?

>It's VILE
>I know. It's so bubbly and cloying and happy.
>Just like the Federation.
>But you know what's really frightening?
>If you drink enough of it, you begin to like it.
>It's insidious.
>Just like the Federation.

>>712964319
The only good one is Elite Force
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sARn-yt4Ygs

That is how kind of screw the Star Trek vidya landscape are. There is also STO for all the loreshit but again, >MMO

>>712963109
maybe soap operas are actually based

Redpill me on deep space nine the fallen tps

>>712964442
Riker. Chakotay gets more episodes involving him than Riker gets moments of individual actions past season 3 of TNG.

>>712964927
is that a question or a statement?

>>712965105
uhhh I played it 20 years ago and vaguely remember it, but I think it was basically Star Trek Tomb Raider with different characters and a fair bit of exploration.
Was okay I guess.

>>712965105
Medorce 3d platformer.

>>712963109
Maybe that's why it's the only good one.

>>712965281
>>712965268
Damn
What about klingon honor guard?

>>712965451
An interesting but not particularly amazing shooter. Elite Force is better.

Did you wait for him to get out before raising the containment field?

>>712965212
Let's call it a humble proposition.

>>712962757
So what was the contest?

just post the dax porn already

>>712965451
Average shooter. Elite Force took that and made it better. And before you ask
>Starfleet Command
Just a ship v ship simulator. nothing more.
>Star Trek: Invasion
Try to cash in X-Wing/Star Fox
>Resurgence
>Tale Tell

>>712965841
she fucks klingons

>>712965612
>>712965865
So there really is just elite force then huh

>>712965794
Basically Q and other godlike beings were having a dispute and to not fuck over space, Picard suggests a,way to settle things and we get the contest

>>712963649
That was in 97, they had Janeway on. Internet says March 18th but can't find a clip of it.

>>712963880
>*Weyoun opens his laptop and clicks the link directly*
>Oh my! That is quite virulent, isn't it?
>Are you insane?
>Gentoo is immune to most forms of infection

>>712966019
I repeat
So what was the contest?

>>712961898
There have been several. You just need to play them with paper and dice.

I will post off-topic things and you can't stop me.

>>712964227
Wasn't ms shovelface a nurse for a bit?

>>712961016
My local arcade has one of these and I have the top score. Probably because no one else has played it.

>>712966135
How do I go about obtaining a Vulcan gf? None of them want to talk to me for more than one minute...

>>712965987
If you just want to try more star trek content, there no harm in trying them, be a bit disappointed, then give out your opinion when someone else ask the same question.

>>712962757
i just want to put picard and janeway in the same room and watch

>>712966072
Scavenger Hunts, basically

>>712961898
An Owlcat Trek RPG would be great, full bridge crew.

post the bimbo version of t'pol

>>712963109
>hates each other?
Who the hell hates each other that lives on DS9?

Sup friends of Garak?

Anyone ever play this? I saw a dozen of these collecting dust on a store shelf for like 5 years before they suddenly disappeared and got replaced with a Barbie game.
Not to be confused with the similarly named PS2 game.

>Q gives a "gift" to Picard
>shows him what would happen if one of his most secret longings came true to help him get over it
>what if Picard had saved his brother's life when he met that unfortunate accident in childhood?
>as it turns out his brother basically becomes a Space Nazi who goes on to become Space Hitler and corrupts the entire Federation into a xenophobic human supremacist organisation that also dresses up Starfleet in silly anachronistic uniforms
>story written by John De Lancie

>>712966938
Keiko and O'Brien

>>712966997
>tfw no Quark mug

>>712967017
That sounds like some nice Big Lots sorta nonsense. It's a shame they went down the shitter

>>712967071
>Fascimile Edition
What.

>>712967158
>Keiko is having the baby.
>NOW?!

Q pisses me off

>>712967347
We know, Jean-Luc

>>712967334
Reprint

>>712967071
>reverse baby Hitler meme in space
Star Trek always was painfully on the nose with Nazi stuff...

>>712967196
>slightly small advertisement
>everyone threaten to kill Quark
What a good future when everyone is tired of advertisement

Wil Wheaton here. Is this the thread?

>>712967347
i'm the original

startrekker

>>712967453
it is now, post wheat harvest

>>712966938
Kira hates
Odo hates
Sisko hates
Keiko hates
Bashir is the only one that's gives the enemy a chance

>>712967071
That already happen in another timeline when they went full Confederacy. CSS World Razer is such a cool ship.

>>712966273
>All that emotion
That is obvious a Romulan spy.

How many games are there?

>>712967453
I didn't know Wheaton also played that fat lady from the two parter

>>712967669
god yes

>>712967586
That design is stupid and unrealistic

>>712967681
THERE
ARE
NO
GAMES

>>712967453
>we could have had Harry Kim as the Terran Emperor
>got Wil instead
>story turn into a shitshow being all about him

>>712967669
Romulans have no honor

>>712967772
I knew it was coming and I still laughed.

>>712967768
>unrealistic
>in a fictional show
lol. lmao

>>712967586
There's a CSA Star Trek story?

>>712967930
You belong in a Fallout 3 thread

>>712967853
The perfect spy

Computer, create a two-to-one scaled copy of of Hex Maniac from the Pokemon video game series, including all normal life functions and otherwise identical to a normal person. Give this copy a severe lactose intolerance, and simulate her consumed several bottles of Moo Moo milk several hours prior. Create an ordinary chair, tall enough for her to be seated on, and replace the center of the seat with a face cutout fit to one Reginald Barclay. Lock Holodeck doors and disengage safety protocols.

>>712968171
Do we have to make you reread holodeck etiquette, Broccoli?

The children will have to learn about TekWar eventually.

>>712968760
I wonder if Tekwar could have been good if the shows and movies actually had decent budgets to make the sci fi world in the books come alive

>>712968000
Its in Picard season 2. If the Terrans is Chaotic Evil, Confederacy is Lawful Evil. Q change one thing in the main time line and suddenly, Human view all xeno as enemies. They treat xenos as slaves or pest while running the government like that of the USSR/Nazi.

>>712968760
The TekWar TV show is comfy 90s slop

>>712968889
>Its in Picard season 2
Oh, no wonder I've never heard of it and nobody knows what you're talking about. I lasted two episodes in S1 of that shitshow.

Came back for S3 because it was supposed to be nostalgia bait and actually decent but turns out it was complete shit, there was no militaristic feel, and none of the characters acted like themselves. Picard only spoke with real authority and presence once in the entire season and everyone had that same, "we're all buddies teaming up to save the day" dialogue. It fucking sucked.
It wasn't Picard, Riker, Worf, etc, it was Stewart, Frakes, and Dorn in make-up.

>>712968856
At the end of the day it was still a cheesy generic detective story that Shatner himself considered "the type of book you pick up to read on a flight and then toss in the bin when you land", stuff that threw around cyberpunk inspiration without much to actually do with it at long length. The show at least tried to do more with the material like android rights/consciousness and stuff, but I don't think even with a higher budget and a consistent cast it was ever gonna hit big.

>>712969039
That understandable. Trekkies are reaching since there are that desperate for "good" Star Trek content. Paramount already blow their Nostalgia reunion load with S3 Picard and Lower Deck blew all the memberberry references.

>>712962757
>people shitting on the Insaneway+Riker+Scotty supercomp
I mean, Sisko is going to win because he has Data, but if Data were removed from the equation, none of the other groups can defeat that trifecta a madwoman deprived of her coffee, a high-stakes gambler with nothing to lose, and an engineer who makes the impossible possible.

>>712966023
Mulgrew co-hosted once. Kino. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTDPzKz6Ktw

>>712966861
you are a fucking monster. just because you fucking said that. they'll make a fucking lower drecks rpg now. i hope you're fucking happy, you monstruous faggot and commie fuck.

>>712969551
Well hopefully it doesn't Monkey's Paw

>>712968889
>Confederacy Sisko is just Hawk from Spenser for Hire with no morals.

>>712969551
Like Paramount would let anyone do anything with their IP

>>712968889
no such star trek show. star trek ended with tng, ds9, voy.

>>712969708
Did they say what this game's story was supposed to be like, was it like just the exact same story as the books and the show but their own take or something else in the universe

>>712968889
>If the Terrans is Chaotic Evil
They weren't

>>712960894 (OP)
Here's to the Good Guys

>>712969881
They are willing to back stab each other to get into the captain's position. Even Klingon had more sense than the Terrans.

I want a Larian made Knights of the Old Federation

>>712970006
You mean plapping greased up vulcans in the Enterprise era? I guess

>>712962757
Me and Dax. Sexually.

>>712969956
It was an Empire. It categorically was not Chaotic alignment. It wasn't a desperate free for all pack of raiders, there was an established government with a chain of command, with rules and laws. The fact assassination was considered an appropriate method of earning a promotion is irrelevant. The captain was still outranked by an admiral who was outranked by the Emperor, no matter how many people they had killed to get to those positions, or how they maintained obedience and discipline aboard ship.

>>712969719
Are there any particularly good Trek comic runs I should look for? Or collections or whatever. Or are they all good? I haven't really checked them out but I'm enough of a Trek dweeb that I'm thinking I should change that

>>712962757
>Picard has the most by the book team in history.
>Janeway has chaos but they need to used a certain way
>Kirk has Bones...but he also has Worf. Plus Quark trying to fleece him. Also Miles will suffer.
>Sisko has Data

>>712970173
Me and (slightly) underage Ezri Dax. Sexually.

>>712969932
Cheers to the finest in Starfleet

>>712970356
uhhhhhhhhhhhh wtf

>>712970356
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh @mods @Paramount @PatrickStewart @FBI @CIA @GeneRoddenberry

>>712970601
Don't @ Roddenberry, he'd be into it. I guess you haven't seen that super weird interview he gave when his mind was slipping.

>>712970709
Enlighten me

>>712970762
He suddenly turns into Danny Elfman, it's very strange

A vidya where a vulcan romulan has entered pon farr again - and you have to prepare your escape&evade plan for the next two days. keep in mind she is 3-5 times stronger than you

Would you play it

>>712970356
She had a slug in her stomach.

>>712963109
>What if Star Trek but everyone is evil and hates each other?
Those are strong terms for what DS9 is about, and that really only applies to the Pah-Wraiths, everyone else is only bad in that they display actual self interest for a change.

>>712970996
But enough about me

>>712971008
> only the pah wraithes
and kieko

>>712970762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2c1iRqSvGo

He says all sorts of weird shit in this interview, including some weird pedo shit.
The QRD is that his mind was slipping pretty bad. He had a series of small strokes throughout the late 80s, eventually culminating in a major stroke that would end up killing him in the end. Strokes can give you brain damage and Gene became something of a mess, all when TNG was first going into production and throughout the first two seasons.

>>712971069
Reminder: O'Brien was married to a 12 year-old girl and it's assumed he performed his marital duties several times that day.

I didn't like DS9 as much as everyone says I should, but I will say that
>ATTENTION BAJORAN WORKERS
still makes me chuckle to this day.

Also, the best Start Trek episode is still Balance of Terror and it's been fucking 60 years

>>712971449
Balance of Terror is the perfect Star Trek episode, I agree.
But DS9 is great.

>>712971449
the strange new worlds remake is unironically better

>>712960894 (OP)
You wouldn't download a car, would you?

>>712963324
>ATTENTION BAJORAN WORKERS
>I AM CURRENTLY HAVING SEX WITH MAJOR KIRA'S MOTHER
>THAT IS ALL

>>712971548
Not saying it was bad but everyone treats it like it doesn't have the same ratio of 'great episodes' and 'fucking dogshit' that the other series have.

Like for example, the Cardassian v Bajoran civil war and history was interesting, but they kept flip flopping into making Gul Dukat a sympathetic villain with his daugther, and then giving him sleazy rapist vibes putting the moves on Kira and then all the bullshit with the Wraiths.

I'm not saying a character can't be both good and bad, but I got fucking whiplash trying to keep up.

>>712971449
Gul Dukat's fixation with female Bajorans is still funny as fuck

>>712971749
>thats right damar...both, at the same time
>some kind of time travel thing

>>712971823
Still better than Picard's handling of female Bajorans

>>712969551
Lower Decks is the best nuTrek show. It is the closest thing to TNG outside of The Orville. If you don't like this correct opinion you need to cope.

>>712970216
There's a 60 issue run of JJTrek that's fairly decent. Starts with rehashes of ToS episodes, has some stuff that connects back to the films, a bizarre crossover with DS9, some original stories and ends with several issues that are basically a memorial to Leonard Nimoy and a loveletter to Star Trek as a whole.
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Star-Trek-2011

There's the TNG Mirror Universe stuff about Mirror Picard getting the Mirror Enterprise and crew together, then their adventures together.
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Star-Trek-The-Next-Generation-Mirror-Broken (Start here)
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Star-Trek-The-Next-Generation-Through-the-Mirror
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Star-Trek-The-Next-Generation-Terra-Incognita
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Star-Trek-The-Mirror-War

Year Five is about the original ToS crew and has a fairly questionable story arc that's got some fairly big plot holes in it. But it's decent enough for one go through.
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Star-Trek-Year-Five

The current ongoing series about Captain Sisko returning and the spinoff with Captain Worf. Passable but the big storylines are some, well, stupid shit.
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Star-Trek-2022
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Star-Trek-Defiant

Other than that you can just search for Star Trek and get a bunch of the collective crap they've put out over the decades and poke around for something that catches your eye. I wouldn't call this a comprehensive suggestion, or even particularly good, but it'll keep you busy for a while.

>>712971760
Jewish people on the show really didn't like that the Hitler analog was in any way redeemable. Space Pirate Dukat was the last time he was good, if you look at everything Damar went through, I think that was intended to be Dukat.

>>712970356
But you know (slightly) underage Mirror Ezri Tigan would be infinitely more likely to jump your bone. Probably for money.

>>712966063
heh

>>712971449
Civil Defense is genuinely the best episode of DS9. Just everything getting worse and worse for everyone involved. I don't even remember how they resolved it at the end I was laughing too hard

>>712972058
That makes a lot of sense in context; I felt the ending was scattered as fuck too. it would have been fine if they just focused on the Dominion Rebellion and how it would affect the Alpha Quadrant and all the various factions, but they swung back into 'muh Prophets'

>>712962757
Where the hell is Geordi?

>>712971973
Mariner is a shit character and LD would had been better if Tani was the center and not some neoptistic bitch

>>712972485
Yeah Starfleet has never kept people going in the job in order to try and make it work when they would be better off going. Never happened. Barkley who? Shut up boomer!

>>712963817
Troi in her standard uniform which she wore a lot more often towards the end of TNG when the actors had more agency.

>>712971173
anon kieko was possessed by literal satanic space demons and miles noticed in 5 seconds because she was being too nice. I doubt they ever even made out. She probably has one of those sideways oriental vaginas.

PROMENADE

>>712972442
Next to Odo. Not wearing the visor but with white blind eyes.

>>712972658
No running on MY promenade

>>712963109
>muh baseball
>muh sailing
>muh cajun father and son + time travel
Sisco's hobbies were as bad as the fucking Riza episodes in TNG

>>712970762
Remember when he wanted the Ferengi to wear huge codpieces and not merely imply that they deal in sex slaves a lot ? And not just treat it as a bit of a joke because "haha aren't they just creepy and dumb thinking everyone else also just buy females" but complete with raiding federation ships to enslave their women etc.
Because that was his plan when in the concept phases for TNG.

>>712972962
>t. can't bunt
Take Me Down To The Holosuite is the ultimate pleb filter.

>>712972962
JAMBALAYA

>>712972962
Except those are all relatable to normal male viewers.

I'm glad DS9 saved the Ferengi, We barery had a humanoid aliens with lot of makeup and culture other then Klingons.
It's way better then whatever TNG tried to do with them.

ATTENTION BAJORAN WORKERS
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DO REMEMBER THAT THIS COST IS SEPERATE FROM YOUR SUBSCRIPTION FOR GENERAL SUBSPACE CONNECTION BUT REQUIRES IT

>>712973285
Every Ferrengi episode is kino they're legit one of the best parts of the entire series. Even the episodes with shit like Quark's mom being a clothes wearing profit earning whore are good.

>>712962757
Dream team?
Seven, beverly, janeway, deanna, kira, B'elanna and me in bed with them

Would've added t'pol or grilka but they're not an option here

>>712972678
Damn was looking for the visor completely glanced over him

>>712973285
Thinking back on it, TNG didn't do a great job developping on the alien cultures long term.
>klingons are mostly dealt with through the really boring Worf soap opera shlock and really boiled them down the "MUH HONOR" , keeps hinting at political and cultural battles but never showing them aside from "K'mpek is old and Gawron is nuts"
>betazoid barely get anything other than Lwaxana being a horny social climber

>>712973363
>Every Ferrengi episode is kino they're legit one of the best parts of the entire series
Yes except the worst episode of the series by far happens to be a Ferengi episode Profit and Lace

>>712972015
Thanks anon! Got 'em all lined up for a good pile of Trek now

>>712973363
>Quark, Rom and Nog's actors would meet up outside of work hours to rehearse any scene they had together to improve their performance
>for the episode where Quark and Rom steal a cloaking device they hired a professional mime to teach them how to convincingly portray carrying a heavy, invisible box
Hard to be bad when they had people like that on the job

>>712967452
Advertisement is the great filter that is typically posited to explain the lack of evidence for other civilizations in the observable universe.
The Ferengi are a statistical anomaly in that they were discovered by other space-faring species and at the very least purchased warp drive technology from them, presumably while still pursing advertisement.

>>712966135
Is that supposed to be T'Lyn or some just some random short hair vulcan girl?

>>712973285
TNG kind of suck in a lot of things. The best they had is Data

>>712973761
kek, cloaking the cloaking device was one of the funniest effects in the series

>>712967768
>>712967930
The whole saucer thing is just a design choice. You're dealing with ships in space with zero friction or wind resistance. Your ships can look like whatever.

>>712973784
Seems to be generic vulcan
https://x.com/On_TheBounce/status/1096246644729933824

Can someone tell me what was the point of making Bashir a Genetically Enhanced our of nowhere?
Am I just dumb and not remember or were there were foreshadowing for him being advanced?
All I remember is that, "oh another random episode coming up and oops. Bashir is actually a super human with super brain and shit"

>>712973363
>Quark about to die from exhaustion and hunger on an uninhabited planet
>realizes his bones could go UNSOLD if he dies there so he stays alive to send the distress signal from the highest mountain

>>712973357
After careful review, the FCA has determined this increase in pricing to be irregular as it fails to include the necessary proportional fee required for any program using Ferenginet services for subspace servers.
As such, the increase will be up to a total of 24.99 Federation Dollars plus annual fee of twenty four strips of gold-pressed latinum.

>>712969276
>I mean, Sisko is going to win because he has Data,
You serious? Look at picard
Spock, ODO, SEVEN?? Geordie is pretty decent, Bev is kind of in between and only Uharu is kind of useless, Sisko only has Data and Bashir that are really useful

>>712970356
>>712972202
What do you mean underage? Nicole de Boer was 27 when she first appeared on DS9 and Ezri was canonically 20 years old when she showed up in the series.

>>712973978
They wanted to do an episode on it

>>712973363
Fuck off, Ferengi episodes were all gutter trash
Which is weird considering the ferengi are the best part of DS9

>>712974301
They were right to do what they did, without that leverage the war would have been lost

>>712965841
>dax porn
I only care for every girl BUT Dax

>>712973978
It's like the one thing Starfleet humans are still retarded about. There's probably dozens of alien species who genetically enhanced themselves and ended up fine but just because humans created Space Hitler once nobody can ever genetically enhance ever again the end.

>>712973978
Bashir's Genetic Emhancements was a retcon, but everything just lined up perfectly for it to land. It also might have been last minute for it to be genetic enhancement and not another secret.

>>712972962
fuck you the baseball episode is peak, Risa is slow in TNG but the DS9 Risa episode where Worf turns into an incel terrorist after his gf's 'old friend' shows up and starts getting handsy with her is probably top 15

>>712973363
>every Ferengi episode
The fucking Quark's mum episode was worse than every shitty Lxuwana episode combined.

Actually, why the fuck is every epiosde involving mums absolute tripe?
>Worf Russian family nonsense
>Kira's mum getting ploughed by Gul Dukat
>Quark
>Odo's '''mums'''''
>Wesley Crusher usual nepotism bullshit

>>712973978
He was good at every sport he play in and always in peak performance. The time he met with Data, it wasn't about how smart or strong he is, its how humanlike he is, all the while, they both work on an extremely complicated device together. And then there is Distant Voice where they establish that Lethean's telepathic attack are fatal, but somehow Bashir survived.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfZQLksfbVk

DEATH
TO THE SLOPPOSITION

the kobyashi maru mod for bridge commander, that is what a trek game should become. over 20 years ago we had mods that allowed not only saucer seperation, but the 3 ship promoetheus crap (mv/am) which was sweet. and then hardly anything forever now. i wanted to see a joining of bridge commander and elite force as a game, but it'll never happen now that they've raped the franchise so hard

>>712974424
Doctor Phlox in Enterprise specifically commented on how backwards he thought Earth was in that regard as the Denobulan people had been using it successfully for a long time.

>>712973978
They had ran out of things to do with his character aside from being O'Brien's buddy.
The whole "greenhorn learning the hard way" had not really worked because they didn't commit to it for his character and it instead transferred into the whole theme for the Dominion Wars story.
They wanted to bring the topic up.
So you have a character that's somewhat directionless and a direction you want to go.
Put the two together and ta-da.

>>712973978
>>712974525
It also worth mentioning the time when the Klingon attack DS9. He was soloing during the fight without any problem.

>>712974493
I enjoyed every Lwaxana Troi episode. They're a fun change of pace.
>It's a Lwaxana accidentally makes the entire station horny with her Betazoid mind powers episode
Funny stuff to contrast with the serious episodes.

>Was any of your posts were true?
>All my posts are true my dear Anon
>Even the Shitposts?
>Especially, The Shitposts.

>>712974424
>b-but KHAAAAAAAAN
It's also said a few times (though never really elaborated on) that world war three was the result of eugenics/cloning hence the ban.
Because it's like the atom bomb that ended world war two. Do you get it ? It's a simile to nuclear power. We're doing an allegory about how dangerous nuclear power is, do you understand ? IT'S ABOUT THE ATOM BOMB BECAUSE WE'RE GOOD WRITERS

>>712974301
Imagine being Section 31 and watch how both the Obsidan Order and the Tal Shiar manage to self destruct so badly against the Dominion. They're probably laughing their asses off.

>>712974424
remember it's objectively better for your kid to be a retarded backwater janitor then a genius starfleet officer because it just is alright? imagine if it didn't work right and he became autistic genius savant instead? you've gotta just trust evolution. ok now go to jail.

>>712973978
I liked that plot point not so much for what it did to Bashir's character because after the reveal he is often very flat monotone and boring, but because of what it says at the greater Federation's attitude towards genetic enhancement and physical augmentation. It's part of the hopeful charm of Star Trek that everyone is mostly just a regular guy, crew members are short, fat, bald, women, all kinds of people even though its not the most efficient they believe in humanity. Of course the technology is so advanced every crew member could basically be as augmented as a borg drone but Star Trek is in general really anti transhumanism.

>>712974842
>in the novel, written by Andrew Robinson no less, Garak starts telling the same story he told Bashir to a Bajoran woman who wants to kill him
>it's from Garak's PoV and even he can't keep the different versions straight and distinct anymore
>when she asks if what he said was the truth he just shrugs and admits it doesn't even matter anymore

>>712975013
>humanity advanced past all its prmary needs
>debatably the peak of sentient civilization in the form of the federation
>still can't solve baldness
It's over

>>712975115
There's a story about Stewart meeting with Roddenberry when he was auditioning and part of the conversation they had was

>But wouldn't they have cured baldness in the future?
>In the future they no longer care

>>712975115
They easily could, there's probably a dozen episodes where someone needs a disguise that's sophisticated enough to get past sensors and the doctor can basically alter them at the genetic level in an afternoon. They just have evolved past caring about whether someone has baldness or is Irish or short or a woman or a gross fish alien.

>>712974493
Remember Me was amazing

>>712975115
Picard doesnt care.
I mean they can alter people so much they can look like a different Alien. They have the tech. But they dont care.
Like nobody cared to tell Worf how retarded he looks whe started growing his hear and put in a shitty pony tail

>>712975197
>They just have evolved past caring
Not that anon you were replying to, but this never sat right with me. Really? People don't care about petty or vain things anymore because of "evolution"? How does that make sense?

>>712970878
I love the episode where Ezri fucks and sucks Worf while they're in prison and he cums into her tight trill pussy and she squirts and blacks out while riding his huge ridged hog and then they wake up and she dumps him again right after she died as Jadzia and they awkwardly never talk again about how he filled her so full of klingon cum that her slug was treading water in her womb.

>>712973978
Unironically, it started in that joke about the time Bashir "mistook a pre-ganglionic nerve for a post-ganglionic fibre" and the guy who wrote that line being called out by multiple people because absolutely nobody at that level of medical education would confuse those things. They're completely different. It only works at wordplay for laymen.

And from there they wondered why he would get such an obvious thing wrong. Then that he threw the test on purpose to avoid something. And then the rest we all know.

>>712975343
haha

>>712975343
>Ezri's Feed and Seed (formerly Jadzia's)

>>712975332
>they've moved past racism, sexism, war and money
>but not caring about how someone looks?! Impossible!

>>712975332
Its the kind of thing you'd need to grow up in the world for it to make sense.
Like I understand but can't wrap my head around the federation not having money.
It seems impossible for there to be no practical currency for the majority of citizens but in Star Trek The Federation has basically solved all scarcity.

>>712975443
Then why do human women still wear makeup or do up their hair if they don't care about looks

>>712975498
Because Roddenberry was a coomer and wanted attractive women on set

>>712975478
>It seems impossible for there to be no practical currency for the majority of citizens but in Star Trek The Federation has basically solved all scarcity.
Lets be honest, it doesn't take much to please a human.

That one episode that was in season 1 or 2 of TNG where it was basically
>humans from the 20th century are so shitty and dumb and horrible and we are so evolved and amazing now
was one of the worst in the series

>>712975478
I think the general consensus when you start to think too hard about it is that there is money in the Federation, it's just exclusively for luxuries and indulgements. All the reasons we care about money have been solved so the average person doesn't think much of it.

>>712973721
Worst episode of the series by far is Meridian. The one where boring Jadzia finds a boring boyfriend on a boring planet that disappears for 50 years or whatever and she has to overcome the boring conflict between her boring love and her boring duty

>>712975816
>Brigadoon but shit

>>712975790
correct

The best episode of TNG bar none is when they go to 90s Wakanda and the negroes are hooting and hollering and shucking and jiving and Tasha Yar has to put on a big dumb negroid poisoned hand club amd swat some jungle princess from blackest not-Africa and then the ululating blacks celebrate the blonde white woman's victory with space fried chicken and quantum watermelon

DS9 is star trek for people that don't like star trek

TNG is star trek for people that don't like star trek

Captain
Jean-Luc Picard
of the USS Enterprise

>>712976074
M-m-m-m-make it so
Make it so

how about a short break
everyone grab some comfort food

>>712976110
>almost 2 episodes dedicated to O'Brien's Suffering a season in DS9

>>712975443
Unironically, yes.
One is a matter of prejudice towards others.
One is a matter of ego and self-perception.
They're pretty different questions.
And all jokes aside, it would be an interesting topic to adress in Trek : does vanity still exist ? It's pretty clear it would be frowned upon within Starfleet as it goes against the core concepts of duty, service and responsibility but what about the Federation civilians ? It's clearly not a problem for betazoid women to care about their appearances under the guise of their older customs but is that all there is to it ?
Because for a Federation civilian who isn't fully devoted to a higher cause then caring about one's self is all that would be left since every need is otherwise met. And not everyone is going to be the type to selflessly devote their whole energy to Starfleet or science and industry.

>>712975478
The way I think about it is that a lot of things that we buy now are earned by social currency. A baseline which is not poverty-destitute tier is guaranteed due to a lack of scarcity, but that doesn't mean EVERYTHING isn't scarce. Federation positions are scarce and earned by merit. Presumably since not every dwelling is a communist one-size-fits-all-block slightly nicer places are available if you've accomplished stuff of note enough to earn it. But I do run into logic problems since it's like "Okay everyone is guaranteed a basic honda civic or toyota hilux or whatever. Comfortable, leather seats, all the lovely amenities. But if you want a ferrari you have to earn it". But then why would they care about luxury gucci car versus utilitarian? Well, Picard's a wine snob or something right? So clearly there's still that sense of taste and refinement. They didn't entirely evolve past taste, it'd just be about something that isn't inherently racial/ethnic/gender.

But you see where I'm getting at. In our world if you wanted to get tickets to some must-see-opera you could pay extra and you'd get in. In the federation money would be worthless. Maybe things would be more valuable (Picard grew his own wine innit?) but people should be beyond that. Instead you'd maybe get priority in a lottery or just plain priority if you were some accomplished war hero, scientist, diplomat, ect.

>>712975790
There we go. That makes sense. Labor is more about what you want to do or what you need to do in order to get somewhere you want to go (IE start off as some low rank)

>>712975115
>humanity advanced past all its prmary needs
This was mostly proven to be a facade instilled in Starfleet officers rather than actual advancement, the mask cracks with multiple characters when they're under duress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVd-U1sAwvo

>>712976208
I aint' seen a lot of star trek but I'd seen enough of TNG to see people deviating somewhat from the ideal. Like the autist that would use the holodeck for his revenge fantasies until he became more responsible. Or the bitter and hateful war veteran who O'brien served with and he helped calm down from an internati- intergalactic incident.

Vanity definitely exists, it's just frowned on by starfleet and is repressed/discouraged

>>712975790
This still seems 'it just works...okay?!'. Replicators still need raw materials, how do they not get to the point of (since starvation and disease are no longer prevalent) breeding themselves out of space and resources?

>>712964319
wintrek

>>712976102
The first duty of every Starfleet officer is to the truth! Scientific truth, or historical truth, or personal truth! It is the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based! Now if you can't find it within yourself to stand up and tell the truth,
You don't deserve
to wear that uniform.

Neuron by neuron! All of it, Mollari! All of it!!!!

Tell me, Captain.
Why hasn't there been a new Mario Baseball in 20 years?

>Have a look at this Data, it's a list of PS5 exclusives the Captain wants us to get for him
>Geordi... these are all ports

>>712976448
I shouldn't have been surprised by how much his actor turned up in trek

>>712969848
It's taking place concurrently with the first 1-2.5 seasons of the show or whatever

>>712969848
the start is you are caught up in the shit going on on Eros

Elite Force 2 is better than EF1. Both are great though.

>>712960894 (OP)
I swear I thought I was at /tv/ thread for a sec.

>>712976420
>Replicators still need raw materials
There are still mines, farms and other forms of resource gathering operations, as well as freighters and transportation logistics to move them about.

>breeding themselves out of space
Generally speaking highly industrialised and prosperous societies have less children because there's less need to have a family that will care for you when you yourself become incapable of working.

>Ferengi are space goblins
>Warcraft made Goblins just non-space space goblins
bizarre

>>712961898
Mass Effect is as close as we're probably ever gonna get. Even has Marina Sirtis in it.

>>712976420
>Replicators still need raw materials,
Penal Colony exist. Starfleet/Fed already had hundreds of colonies all over the Alpha and Beta Quadrant for resources. They could get enough material from asteroid mining if they really wanted to.

>>712965865
Star Trek: Borg was only fun because Q was the main character behind it

>>712962757
dax
crusher
kira
and odo as the tentacle monster

>>712976787
Classic Sci-Fi is /v/-core.

>>712976171
>not holding dozen of Jumja sticks

>the reason Tain felt betrayed by Garak was that he was fucking a powerful politician's wife like an idiot
>the mission he botched that got him exiled to Terok Nor was to go to Bajor and kill the man he was cuckolding

>>712963109
You didn't watch it.
>>712963324
I cheered on Dukat so hard. That ending where he fucking betrayed the fuck out of me I'M STILL MAD YOU MOTHERFUCKER I GAVE YOU EVERY CHANCE

>>712977325
Why is Garak so horny?

>>712976924
Only ME1 though. 2 is JJ Abrams slop and 3 is Michael Bay slop.

>>712976447
This is becoming a speech
"You're the captain, sir. You're entitled."
Mmm, entitled to ramble on about something everyone knows.

>>712977364
Same, dude. I wanted Dukat to have a Zuko level kind of redemption arc, I mean he was fuckin PRIMED to have one

And the writers had to throw it away.

>>712977665
They couldn't.
They tried to depict Dukat as Space Hitler.
When it was clear that he was popular despite being Space Hitler, they instead tried to make him Space Satan.

how come there aren't any modern startrek 4x game?

>>712977665
On the other hand, Damar became based as fuck.

>>712977741
>it's about the Garidians trying to fix their society
>no it's about the Chodak fucking up the Romulans
>actually it's about some time-warping ancient technological miracle machine that everyone wants to get their hands on
It really needed to be individual episodic missions like 25th Anniversary, trying to tie it all together into one long story arc was a mistake

>>712977829
Paradox published one not even two years ago
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1622900/Star_Trek_Infinite/

>>712977831
Only because of circumstance, and with a healthy amount of help from Kira and the rest of DS9. I won't argue Damar became a good foil for Dukat, because in the end Damar fought the good fight against impossible odds, side by side with an enemy he hated, throwing away everything he had learned in life to become the thing he hated for the good of his people.

But too little, too late.

>>712977967
they shat out one you mean, this game is ass

>all they do is play games
>/v/ hates them

>>712978418
>only play for physical reward
>try to trick you with cheap garbage first
>don't properly explain the rules
>force people into playing
What's to like about them?

>>712977741
>Troi in actual uniform
I will now play your game.
It's not that Jellico did nothing wrong, it's that he did everything right.

>>712962784
old trek is tos and tos movies
new trek is tng to nemesis

>>712978736
Too bad he couldn't come up with a good reason to take her on an away mission, the one the game gives you is laughably bad

>>712978872
>the Troy mission is shit
Fitting since Troy episodes would universally suck if it weren't for Face of the Enemy.

>>712978929
It's also the Crusher mission because you go to a planet ruled by women and they can't stop talking down to men long enough to answer any questions so you HAVE to talk to them with a female character or the mission wont ever progress

>>712978418
>literally "why you have to be mad? is just game"
FUCKERS

who is the most based character and why it's riker?

>>712977967
>Bought and played this one time with my brother
>He played romulans, I played the cardies
>Try to build my economy around bajoran slave labor
>While I'm distracted, somehow all my bajoran slaves die
>Can't run shit anymore so have to end the game there
War crimes? How could there be war crimes if there wasn't a war?

>>712979282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVIGhYMwRgs

>>712979282
Because we made it up.

>>712977967
you're probably better off playing the trek mods for Stellaris.

>>712976420
The fact that they have unlimited cheap, clean energy in the form of fusion reactors and replicators can turn blocks of carbon and other basic elements into effectively unlimited food is why scarcity no longer exists on Star Trek Earth. It's also relatively crime free. If people have all their basic needs met, they tend to not resort to a life of crime. Sure, domestic violence probably still exists and you'll have the occasional murder, but premeditated crime and crimes of opportunity are probably largely a thing of the past in a post scarcity world.

>>712979445
>there was coffee on that planet
>there was also sentient life
>WAS

>>712977920
When I played 25th Anniversary, I had only ever watched TNG so it was my first introduction to Kirk and co. I was also probably 12 and could not figure out how to get past the door in That Old Devil Moon. I didn't know what a base 3 counting system was back then.

>>712980189
That one is bullshit because you need to look up the answer on the Enterprise computer before you beam down, but they don't tell you that like they did for the Masada's shield prefix

>>712979282
Because he understood the superiority of Japanese culture.

>>712979816
Are you saying human greed stops being a thing when people have "enough"?

>>712979282
>I said shut up, as in close your mouth and stop talking.

>>712980647
>Klingon bitching about how his dad's been dishonored and he can't talk to him anymore
>Riker chews him out and insist he man the fuck up and talk him despite the cultural taboo because "he's your father!"
>later revealed that Riker has steadfastly refused to talk to his own father for years over personal issues

>>712980795
>Worf wants Riker to euthanise him per Klingon culture after he gets crippled by an empty plastic barrel
>Riker refuses his friend's request because it breaks Fed cultural norms
>Riker wants to break Fed cultural norms to stop his alien girlfriend of the week from getting gender neutered
>Worf immediately jumps to his aid even though it'd destroy his career if found out
Worf is a real one

>>712980780
>Will, I sense how upset you are

>>712968889
>Q change one thing in the main time line and suddenly, Human view all xeno as enemies. They treat xenos as slaves or pest while running the government like that of the USSR/Nazi.
And reason for that was dumb, also more explanation for it made it even worse

>>712977967
lol that's just stellaris with a different paint job.

The real trek 4x is the ancient Birth of the Federation.

>>712979282
A total fabrication

>>712960894 (OP)
I tried playing Bridge Commander on easy and got fucking destroyed, other ships either seemed to die very easily, or not take any damage at all, I was doing something wrong but I don't know what.

>>712983356
BC is very easy during the first misions, were you playing vanilla or modded?

>>712982050
>Another 'nazis in space' show
The guy who runs Ex Astris Scientia was right when he said that americans are obsessed with beating the nazis.

>>712979445
I fucking hated that episode, they had to make Tuvix an ugly motherfucker so that killing him wasn't that bad. Fuck Janeway.

>>712983412
Vanilla, It's been a while but I think I got stuck at a mission where you had to defend a station from an attack from other ships.

>>712983698
The one where your starbase is rammed by freighters loaded with bombs? Yeah, that one's a bitch, the best solution is to boost your engines so you can reach them fast and disable theirs so they can't move. Once all of them are dead in the water you can kill them at your leisure. Also, use your tractor beam to slow them down.

>>712983913
Yeah that one, thanks anon.

>>712979445
>>712979902
Starfleet made her a training hologram for new cadets.
They knew exactly what they were doing. They didn't care.
>let's encourage these naive uncontacted non-federation alien teens to steal back an experimental starship and return it to federation space while being chased by murderous alien slavers, what's the worst that could happen?

going to watch Deep Space 9 without having watched any Startrek content prior to this thread, thanks fellas

>>712984030
I can think of a good dozen murders and a couple genocides that could happen in this situation.
The coffee makes it worth it.

>>712985019
Have fun
It probably won't hit as hard without the contrast with the rest of the franchise but hopefully it's still enjoyable for you
Just be mindful that the first two seasons are a bit rough, the show does find its footing

>>712985019
That's what I did and I had a great time.

>>712961898
Its called Mass Effect

WE'RE RED SQUAD AND WE CAN DO ANYTHING!
>RED SQUAD! RED SQUAD! RED SQUAD! RED SQUAD! RED SQUAD! RED SQUAD! RED SQUAD! RED SQUAD! RED SQUAD! RED SQUAD! RED SQUAD! RED SQUAD! RED SQUAD! RED SQUAD! RED SQUAD!

>>712961360
>Give your female bridge officers huge tits
I still remember giving my starter Andoran bridge bitch the biggest, fattest breasts possible and masturbating furiously to her jiggling around. God I was so trash at that game, but it was so much fun despite that. Letting you adjust the bust of your women is a lost art too, only the Easterners know it now.

>>712985176
>Nog trying to act like there's two sides to the story at the very end when even he has to admit the "captain" was a retard who accomplished nothing but getting a bunch of kids killed

>>712962592
Same, I’ve been able to bury my love for Star Wars and Star Trek but whenever a conversation on DS9 or Phantom Menace crops up it’s like I’m back home. You can’t forget what you are.

>>712985176
>that cute vulcan on the left looking like 'why am I following these animals'

>>712970356
>>712970173
that's an old man
also, it's sad tat baby dax was underutilized, considering it was the perfect setup for sisko's character, from apprentice to equal to master

>>712985176
Space Ketamine is one hell of a drug.

>>712971923
Oh no...What did Picard do with female Bajorans?

>>712960894 (OP)
The Marquis did nothing wrong.

>Congratulations on making it into Starfleet!
>OK here's your phaser rifle kid, you're shipping out to Space `nam, enjoy the PTSD.

>>712983475
>The guy who runs Ex Astris Scientia was right when he said that americans are obsessed with beating the nazis.
More like Americans are obsessed with being ruled or being nazis

>Divide the Trades into coloured uniforms
>Make vastly different trades like Security and Engineering the same colour so people might accidentally ask a security guard for help with an engineering problem, or ask a grease monkey to back him up during an alien boarding incursion

>>712986538
Yellowshirts are made for pain.

>>712986538
>Red
>Security and Tactical
>Gold
>Engineering and Operations
>Blue
>Science and Medical

Redshirts haven't been engineers since TOS

>>712986538
Considering the kind of horrors that can come out of engineering flaws on Starfleet ships, I'd never want to fight one of their engineers
Imagine thinking you're a hot shit master of combat, and you run into Data

>>712986538
>High ranking officers have in-depth systems knowledge about equipment and even offer the engineers suggestions about how to fix equipment outside of said officers area

>>712986538
>science+medical
>oh no he's taken a disrupter shot to the chest, you've gotta help him Doc!
>I'm just a geologist though?

>>712986901
I'm just going to assume Lower Decks made this exact joke.

>>712986735
>outside of said officers area
You can change division as you rank up.

Case in point: Sisko was one of the engineers who developed the Defiant Class. He's in red for all of DS9 because they felt he'd be better in command.

>>712961016
>Star Trek game
>Made in id Tech
We were so blessed in the 2000's it's unreal. id Tech isn't even opeen source these days.

>>712962507
what a pussy

>>712987003
I'm an ex-military engineer and commissioned ranks literally have no idea how equipment works, they go to Officer training, if they're engineering Officers they do electrical or mechanical theory to get the principles behind it, then they sit in their office doing paperwork and having meetings about scheduling and manpower. They don't do equipment courses and definitely never actually work on equipment.

>Start watching DS9
>Season 1 had great Bajor insurrection story
>Lose interest in Season 2 due to inane drama

Should I give it a try or skip to Dominion War arc?

>>712987237
Starfleet Academy is basically an all-discipline university that expects you to know the basics of every field before you get to focus on an area. Sisko being an engineer up to designing a starship means he was deep into it before he reassigned, he'd absolutely be able to keep up with O'Brien in a technical discussion.

>>712987313
I remeber not liking season 2 very much my first time.
Try skipping to season 3 where Sisko goes bald

>>712986538
Could be worse
>STD uniforms
>the colour code is only visible in the reflection of the golden accents

>>712977325
what? I thought freeing the bajoran children is what got him expelled from the obisidian order

>>712978929
that troy episode where everybody can't sleep because some alien is stuck in a nebula and is sending nightmares so it can be rescued is decent enough

Akuchimoya

>>712987786
>Garak tells like 4 different stories in that episode and then explains they were all true, "especially the lies"
>this nigga thinks he told the truth at any point beyond telling Bashir where Tain was living so he'd go and find him

>>712968171
He's just ai prompting

>>712988004
Isn't Bashir a superehuman with an IQ of 5 trillion? He was probably able to decypher the truth with ease.

>>712984257
Barkley may be seen as the ship's holoperv but let us never forget that when Riker's mind was probed, the woman he most cared for was his jazz club holowaifu who complimented his 'bone.

DS9 is so fucking good. I've rewatched it more than TNG but I love both equally, for different reasons however DS9 just remains more rewatchable for me.

TNG as much as I love it doesn't have Dukat or Garak or Quark.

>>712987956
We are far from the shitposts of our oldfags.

>>712988190
I don't know what the fuck they were thinking turning Bashir into a superhuman brain god.

todd, his lies laid bare

>>712988641
Anon, on a friday night in his room

>>712977109
HUMANS ARE SUPERIOOOOOOOOOR

>>712979282
You mean Odo

>>712988998
Odo is great, it's just a shame that his screentime is used for the will-they-wont-they soap opera after a while.
That said
>nobody had to teach me the "justice trick"
Best log monologue

>>712962757
>Picard gets Spock AND Odo
What kind of fucking stacked ass matchmaking is this

>>712979282
Mccoy
Phlox
Odo

>>712989209
gets a borg-sue, too
sisko has a chance because data is op, but there's a lot of deadweight on his team

>TNG
>DS9
>Farscape
>Babylon 5

Is this the holy quadrifecta of sci-fi TV?

>>712989329
It's a real shame ENT ended just as it was starting to get good because Phlox was great.

>Stellaris get's a Trek rip-off
>Don't get anyone to voice the respective faction narrators except for Martok

Why the fuck would you not go through heaven and hell to get Avery Brooks or Marc Alaimo? Or Patrick Stewart.

>>712978418
I'M TIRED OF YOUR FUCKIN' GAMES JULIAN

>>712990093
Budget. Or the actors didn't want to come back.

STO's DS9 expansion was notably missing Ezri and Sisko despite bringing back fucking Kai Opaka of all people. Quark, Rom, Leeta, Nog, Worf, Odo, Bashir, Kira, Garak, Weyoun, Female Changeling, Morn all came back.

>>712989396
Remove DS9
Add Andromeda and SG-1
Make it a pentafecta

>>712990243
No. Actors don't get to pick and chose. They have to do what I like and when I like it. If you disagree you are stupid.

>>712990279
>Andromeda
>Sorboslop

That shit turned fucking terrible faster than any show I've seen. One and a half seasons worth of decent episodes and it just nosedives.
>SG-1
Eh. It's a fine show but I would never rank it above DS9.

>>712985391
That was a pretty good example of the halo effect, though. Even when confronted with facts of someone cool's fuck ups, it's still hard to look past them being cool.

>>712986704
Security and Tactical is yellow, same as engineering, in TNG onward.

Also, even in TOS, yellow was command and nothing else basically. It was never engineering, that was red in TOS.

>>712990471
You are allowed to not like Kevin Sorbo, but that just means you are gay and your opinion is invalid.
It also had hot babes which also makes you gay.
>Eh. It's a fine show but I would never rank it above DS9.
Then why have B5 on the list? They are the same idea, but DS9 shifted the Star Trek series toward political drama.

>>712990471
I tried watching Andromeda.
When it turned out the ruthless "muh survival of the fittest" aliens were called the fucking nietzscheans, I stopped.
I prefer it when writers do not assume I am retarded.

>>712990842
Because both do similar yet different things and both excel greatly at it for the most part.

As for Sorbo he's fucking insane and has the charisma of a wet fart, and I'm going to assume you think he's some brave, intelligent and heroic super actor.

>>712991103
Nah, everything that holds DS9 back is that it is a "Star Trek" show. B5 didn't need any children on the promenade because that's not what the show was about. DS9 was limited by it's need for broad appeal.

>As for Sorbo he's fucking insane
Yes. He is trying to create a galactic government. He is insane. That's what makes it great. His blissful optimism. He will drive back the night and rekindle the light

>>712991589
Are we talking about Kevin Sorbo or his character now? I was talking about the actor.

>>712991589
The presence of Jake and Nog elevates the show massively. It seems like a burden at first but I end up liking both of their characters a lot. They both have satisfying arcs and probably more growth as characters than anyone else on the show which makes sense given their age.

>>712991589
Nog and Jake are underrated. Both get PTSD, moreso Nog I suppose.

>>712991679
To me they are one in the same because I grew up on Hercules and Xena. I have no reason to shatter that reality for myself.
So yeah, I like Andromeda because I liked Hercules.

>>712960894 (OP)
Are the reboot of BSG, Babylon 5 and Farscape good shows? I only know the from the threads anons make here and it got me curious about these shows.

>>712975816
You could literally say the same thing about any Jadzia episode that is actively about her symbiote or trill history. What a poor, unlikable character to hinge entire episodes on.

>>712991978
>>712991736
I remember Nog joining star fleet and becoming awesome, but I also remember Jake still being around and being an annoying twat. Too much of a twat to want to watch Nog's grow as a character.

>>712992310
Jake's just a civilian and has a great PTSD episode of his own

>>712992198
BSG is fine for two, two and a half season, and then it sharply declines. Babylon 5 is a masterpiece seasons 1-4 and the final season is still good, but not as good as the previous four. Farscape is kino throughout though it gets a lot better when Scorpious is introduced.

>>712976364
they are not perfect, but the TNG movies are a terrible source for examples, they are all out of character there.

>>712992409
>PTSD
I don't give a shit about PTSD. Does Jake become less of a cunt and if so how long into it?

>>712993158
he becomes a writer and a journo, take a fucking guess
the visitor is a pretty nice episode, though

>>712993302
>he becomes a writer and a journo, take a fucking guess
So he gets worse? Why would I try watching it again then?

>>712993158
Anon no offense but YOU kind of seem like a cunt, might be a you problem

>>712984257
when i watch a barclay episode, i have trouble imaging that this guy was murdock in the a-team
great actor

>>712993419
because 5 episodes worth of "dad, I'm still here for some reason, remember grandpa's cooking?" is worth it
fucking watch Duet and if you're not hooked, you can fuck off in peace

>>712970356
Are there any decent comics or novels about Ezri? Always thought it was a shame she got introduced too late to explore the character.

>>712985176
>I am a genius!
>Oh no!

>basically on par with the Enterprise, the flagship of the Federation fleet, one of the most highly advanced vessels in the quadrant
>it's canon that the Ferengi traded for pretty much all their technology
Hew-mons spend years slaving to build a better starship. Ferengi just buy one.

finished rewatching DS9 yesterday.
It's not as good as I remeber, last season is a mess.

elite force 1 and 2 were sick
that 3rd person shooter ds9 game was pretty scary with the borg

post star trek apus

>>712994773
there's a guy in /trek/ on /tv/ who has made a ton of them, this is my personal favorite

>>712992198
Babylon 5 is weird and not always that great in season 1 as a lot is being set up.
Season 2 to 4 are great.
Season 5 is good but will always feel a bit weird as most of the main events had ended but they had to continue for one more season. Still managed it very for a renewal they pretty much didn't want though.
Crusade is unmitigated dogshit and a much better example of what happens when you try to continue on with a story that had clearly run out of material.

Remember that time Webster was on the Enterprise?

>>712994732
The fight for Cardassia and Damar's arc are great.
The entire Pah Wraith stuff is terrible.
>Dukat is just evil because he is evil for the sake of being evil now.

>>712994732
The show suffers a lot from Robert Hewitt Wolfe's exit. He was Behr's writing partner and largely, as it turns out by the decisions made in S6 and S7, his tard wrangler.

There are still some great episodes in S6-S7 but the peak is definitely S4-S5.

>>712993254
>Civil Defense
>just Good
Booooooooooooo

>>712995982
>Dukat turns evil
>still uses every chance to bang bajorans

>>712995982
I like Damar, and I like Cardassians. But that arc was kinda mid. Damar's actor honestly doesn't sell it like he's some kinda rebel icon like Che or something.
Seeing him evolve into a drunk rat to a hero was nice though.

>>712996149
S4-S5 is pretty dang good

>>712996354
Those guides are always retarded, just one guy's questionable taste.

He also marked Tuvix as BAD on the Voyager guide.

>>712970976
i would just accept my fate

>>712996432
Seethe and cope, transporter accidents like you are technical issues and therefore have no more rights than a ship's warp core.

>>712996810
Who is seething and coping about what? Tuvix very clearly had to die.

>>712996432
>it's a "Wesley accidentally creates sentient life as part of a school assignment" episode
Hate these

>>712997041
He didn't "have ti die" because he was a technical malfunction. Not a lifeform. And there was probably coffee inside him too.

>>712970976
>Alien Isolation but with an extremely gorny vulcan roaming the corridors
Oh no?

>>712986728
>that fucking image

>>712985091
i ALMOST dropped the show after this episode, thank god i stuck with it, season 1 had some cringe kino

>>712977731
>They tried to depict Dukat as Space Hitler.
They didn't. They just had a couple characters telling him "You're Hitler" while showing him being funny and a neutral character at worst. They didn't try shit.

>>712997937
Anon, Waltz is basically character assassination: the episode.

I think you're due for a rewatch.

>>712998040
I'm talking about before Waltz. Waltz is what they had to resort to because they failed. Literally just spoonfeeding the audience on the way he thinks so they can set up what they do to him for the rest of the show. And even that episode fails because it shows he actually does have a conscious and self-awareness that until that point you could have assumed he actually bought into his delusions 100%

>>712998492
I agree with you, though, and it's something Behr refuses to take responsibility for with his revisionist history.

He blames Alaimo and Alaimo's friend, who is the one who wrote the Indiscretion episode which was really the start of morally grey Dukat.
But who the fuck approved that script? What, was Behr just unconscious that week in his capacity as showrunner and head creative nigga in charge? Was he unconscious for the episode where Dukat is fighting a scrappy underdog's war against the Klingons and Kira helps him? No, he approved all of this shit and very clearly, the direction for Dukat was more ambiguous and turning towards an anti-hero.

It's such a cop out for him to blame Alaimo for trying to make his character less of a villain, total bullshit.

>>712998726
>It's such a cop out for him to blame Alaimo
Does he seriously blame the actor for advocating for his character? That he was actually doing PERFECTLY? What a scumbag.

>>712998890
Yeah, one of the worst things about that What We Left Behind documentary was the dogpiling on Mark Alaimo when he basically carried their fucking show in a lot of ways.

>>712997686
Of the first five series of Trek, they all had kinda rocky first seasons. ToS is all dated by today's standards. TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT were all differing levels of good but had those campy episodes in their first seasons. But DS9 really locked in for the back two thirds. ENT waffled a bit but their third and fourth seasons knocked it out of the park.

Is that kid trek show worth a look? Im a huge fan/apologist for voyager and kind of want to see it for the janeway stuff.

>>712996432
>my ship, my rules

>>712999854
Then torrent a few episodes of the first season and decide.

>A new Star Trek game is announced
>"Admiral Janeway, Cardassia Prime has coffee." is the opening line

>>712970976
I once played a porn game like that, neat concept, boring execution but then again the game was meant to be short, not really worth finding again though, essentially you are in a house, hot demon wants to kill you, gotta find a way to exorcise her, multiple runs allow you to make her sexy and have her assault you..."differently"
>>712999854
I recommended it to my mother because Voyager is her favourite, she gave it a try, some episodes but thought it was not bad just not to her tastes, I know it got cancelled but that doesn't mean it was bad, never saw it myself.

>>712999797
TBF DS9 looked at B5 and said holy shit we want that and then liberally copied.

>>712998569
Is Combs the best guest star of all time? He was fantastic in Enterprise, too. Shame they canned the series. They were going to make him a full crew member if they got the 5th season.

>>713000645
>Is Combs the best guest star of all time?
Yes.

>>713000645
>They were going to make him a full crew member if they got the 5th season.
i yearn for this, it is such a shame it will never be
star trek died with enterprise

>>713000645
Combs is definitely the best. I honestly think Enterprise is pretty shit. It does improve at the very end when Manny Coto becomes the creative lead instead of that hack Berman and his buttboy "please give me producer credits" Brannon Braga but then it just ends, and with one of the worst finales ever.

>>713000645
Are Vortas clones just because they wanted to bring him and his character back specifically?

>>713000939
i dont know, but it wouldnt surprise me

>>712995432
>>712995183
>>712995127
>>712994773
>>712995481
>>712995534

>>713000939
Well, lets see...
Combs as Weyoun
Combs as Brunt, FCA
Combs as that one alien who tried to get a holodeck program of Kira for some jerkoff sessions
Combs as himself when Sisko and the gang are in 1950's NYC
Combs as that kickass Andarian in Enterprise like 6 times and always saves everyone ass after being a belligerent prick the entire episode, you fucking pigskin

Combs was, is, and always will be the best guest star

>>712993518
I feel sorry that you are hurt by Jake being a cunt.
>>712994139
>because 5 episodes worth of "dad, I'm still here for some reason, remember grandpa's cooking?" is worth it
Okay, why?
>fucking watch Duet and if you're not hooked, you can fuck off in peace
You sound like you hate that show, but also watched all of it like some faggot

>>713001826
no, I just hate your attention seeking, touch starved ass

>>713002093
Do you honestly think that the only reason to shit on Jake is for attention?

>>713000939
Yes. That's exactly what happened.

>There are people who unironically watch nuTrek
wtf is wrong with you

>>712976110
>irish
all deserved

>>713001723
>Combs as himself
Anon...what are you implying? This is Jeff Mulkakey

>>713002713
wait fuck I did it too. I mean Kevin lol

>>712974763
Late DS9 Bashir is basically the lead character for the Starfleet portion of the show, he gets his own storyline and a nemesis and it even plays into his role as a doctor because he's trying to weed out a cancer within Starfleet.

>>713002431
definitely not, but fortunately he's a much more forgettable rather than obnoxious chaarcter overall
hell, keiko appears way less and her negative impact feels much more prevalent in the series than jake

I always heard people shit on DS9, but after watching all of the old star treks, it's fucking fantastic, by far the best of ST. DS9 > TOS > TNG > Voyager
And even with voyager last it's not bad. I just don't care for a lot of the characters but the premise is good. Feels like a DS9 take on TNG

>>713003768
The people that shit on DS9 are usually TNGfags that cannot stand that no one else circlejerk their childhood show.

>>713003768
VOY is a masterpiece compared to recent nu-treks, so that helps
most of the negativity around the show comes from a time of higher standards in entertainment (late 90s, early 00s)

>>713004260
Time is a flat circle

>>712962757
McCoy in TNG, DS9 & Voy for the interactions

Got my Zoomer friend to watch DS9.
Somehow we started talking about the women.
He said.
>"Why the hell did they cast Kira so badly? She's written like she's supposed to be hot but she's ugly and way too skinny!
Wanted to throttle him - there's no hope for the next generation (heh).

>>713004947
Dukat pls. go

>>713004947
Typical narrow-minded Federation bootlicker.
All proper servants of the Cardassian Regime recognize the value in bajoran booty.

>Combs was, is, and always will be the best guest star
Tony Todd is definitely up there, top 3 material.

>>713005376
True, he did carry the best episode of Star Trek ever made

>>713005376
Mick Fleetwood mogs both.

>>712990842
armpit status?

>>713003768
The problem is if you watch B5 you don't need DS9 and if you watch DS9 you don't need B5.

>>713005376
>Tony Todd is definitely up there
Not anymore he's not

>>712986538
All serving on a starship have basic weapons and combat training though.

>>713005376
I don't know who played Gawron but fuck me he made him look like a great character despite being an underwritten plot device for the most part.
It's the eyes.

I sure hope nothing bad happens to Miles in this thread!

>>712995982
What? You don't think the DBZ ki blast fight was well suited for Star Trek?

>>712971823
seriously

>>712970976
>>712996462
This over the top fanservice that has no justification made me quit this show, it's like they were desperate to get people to watch instead of earning the viewers then giving fan service after the fact.
The fact that a vulcan had breast implants and lip injections didn't help either.

Yall niggers need to Star Trek Borg. Good luck getting that shit to work nowadays though, need to fire up my old IBM to do it, myself. Maybe some assholes got it for updated windows.

This was the best thread on /v/ of the entire month, if not the entire year.

>>713006384
It would be logical to take every physical advantage you may obtain in order to better your relations with humans if you are to work among them.

>>713006193
>In the first few drafts of the script, Kira is possessed by the Prophet and Winn by the Pah-wraith, and their battle aboard Deep Space 9 was far more elaborate than that seen in the finished episode. Weddle and Thompson wrote them as having a running battle all over the station, throwing fireballs at one another and completely destroying the Promenade. The whole idea, however, became far too complicated from a logistical point of view, and René Echevarria was brought on board by Ira Behr to try to smooth things out and simplify the script without losing the essence of the plot. Apparently, when Steve Oster first saw Thompson and Weddle's draft he responded by proclaiming that it would be a fifteen-day shoot (a normal DS9 shoot is 6 days).

>>713006531
Star Trek threads aren't that rare and they're usualyl decent if they don't get dumped for Off Topic

I know the game has been out for a while now, but how is the Star Trek MMO?
Can one still get into it?

>>713006384
>The fact that a vulcan had breast implants and lip injections didn't help either.
Maybe all female vulcans should.

>>713006890
STO is F2P you can just pick it up and try it out. You can trundle along through the story missions until max level before it starts asking for a serious dedication in time or money to get the good stuff.

>>713006890
Dated, space combat is alright and ground combat is rough. Excellent customization for player character and bridge officers, I spent a lot of time making up backstories and promoting my older officers as I progressed.

>>713006370
>that final episode with Brunt AND Weyoun
unf

>>713006384
Enterprise season 3 was worth watching. The rest you can safely skip.

>>713006890
It alright but don't drop money into the game unless you're really into the game

>>713006879
just remember to start them with actual star trek videogame discussion

>>713005504
>>713003768
DS9 and B5 are not really same. They both have unique negatives and positives and plot is to different

>>712966135
god having a vulcan GF would be the best kuudere GF experience imaginable. You just know under that cold exterior she is absolutely boiling over with affection, love, and possession

>>713004947
I bet my left nut he will be calling mirror dimension kira "mommy" in less than 5 minutes of her showing up