.

I NEED TO PLAY CONCORD FOREVER!!!!!!

>Not owning what you buy is based, actually
Guess we did it? Capitalism is over.

>>713461084
If you paid for the game, you should have the right to.
Regardless of the game's overall quality.

>The end of
>the satisfying downfall of
>it's over for
>just ended

>>713461150
planned obsolescence has always been a core part of capitalism THOUGH?

We did it, nu-/v/!
We protected corporations' rights to time-bomb our vidya!

>>713460961 (OP)
Concord sends its regard!

>>713460961 (OP)
Capitalism wins. America wins. Fuck your communist movement. Pay up, trannies.

You missed 3 times.

>>713460961 (OP)
Reminder that Reddit is the reason why this failed.

>>713461486
real capitalism has never been tried.

>>713461837
>Capitalism
>The right to private ownership
>Video games industry
>You own nothing and will defend the publishers rights to fuck you as much as they want

>>713461690
live service goyslop is not my vidya. you may love eating shit and drinking cum, but i do not

Who's receiving the best head?

>>713461837
I only play chinese games
>but one day the servers will shut down and your account will disappear!!!
don't care, had my fun and I'll always have new games to play

>>713462128
This counts for single player games too twat

>asking for a nanny state just because you made bad purchasing decisions
lmao

>>713462101
>capitalism
>an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit.
planned obsolescence is great for profits, and companies owned by private owners doesn't mean that YOU get private ownership, they have private ownership and are free to fleece you as much as they want in the names of profit, that's what capitalism is

>>713460961 (OP)
D-did we lose the culture war bros?

>>713461150
>>713461171
>>713461690
>>713462101
>>713462319
>>713462359
Oh shut up you little pedantic niggers. You can still pirate them and get them anyways.

>>713462450
rarted

Apologize.

>>713461171
False.

>>713462508
Calling me retarded isn't going to change the fact your little gay movement died. It's natural for companies to SHUT DOWN GAMES THAT AREN'T MAKING THEM ANY MONEY AND ARE ACTUALLY LOSING THEM MONEY BECAUSE OF SERVER COSTS. All of you are communists and I am glad to see you suffer.

>>713461882
It’s always their fault

>>713462214
gacha isnt games

>>713462550
Welcome to the finding out timeline, bud.

>>713462319
how is a publisher going to stop me from playing a single player game i purchased? are they going to come over to my house and smash my cartridge/disk with a hammer?

>>713462679
good morning rajesh

>>713462669
retard

>>713462748
It's so nice of that Discord server to display their evil plan for everyone to see, just in case someone forgot what they were supposed to do.

>>713462669
I like you

>>713462804
Not an argument. Troons lost.

>>713462669
It won't cost them anything as they become offline games. Do you even know what is communism?

>>713462669
retard

>>713462669
>DUDE JUST PIRATE LIVE SERVICE GAMES YOU CAN STILL PLAY THEM
rarted

>>713462834
>rajesh responding with the same scripted cope every time
get new material from your jewish handler shitrat

>>713462854
>It won't cost them anything
False.

>>713462101
private property =/= personal property

>>713460961 (OP)
>mention personal responsibility
>eurotards freak out
>posts their petty bait
no wonder the moment dies

>>713462843
Thank you.

>>713462101
You can't own a service

>>713462729
>how is a publisher going to stop me from playing a single player game i purchased?
They could have parts of it integrated into a sever like DarkSpore.

>>713462886
>recognize that a game is live service slop
>still have an uncontrollable urge to waste money and time on something you know is temporary
maybe we should get the government involved. they should kill people like you for being too stupid to fucking live

>>713462214
So you're a faggot.

>>713463090
>personal responsibility
>For what other people are doing

>>713463138
I don't play bad games so this doesn't matter.

>>713462450
Let's see you do that with The Crew.
>goalposts moving in 3, 2, 1...

>>713460961 (OP)
It's a real shame the movement stalled all because of a few niggers but this just highlights the massive lie people convince themselves that crying the gooberment for issues to fix because they cares for its citizens and laws are full of shit. The various governments were all too happy to "kick the can down the road" because this topic was not worth their concern at the moment. The government does not care for you period, they want to say anything to get your vote for power then use said power to funnel whatever privileges and money to themselves and their families

>>713462369
You're a special kind of retard, huh?

>>713463145
>backpedaling
rarted

>>713463138
Why would I willingly give my money away for a product like that? I won't, and anyone with half a brain wouldn't either.

>>713462729
always online DRM

>>713460961 (OP)
you are still a faggot

>>713463226
I look forward to the inevitable future when a game you like has always online DRM.

>>713463090
eulas were never legally binding
Stop being dumb.

>"The end"
It never begun.

>>713462669
>It's natural for companies to SHUT DOWN GAMES THAT AREN'T MAKING THEM ANY MONEY
But no. Actually IT'S NOT NATURAL FOR COMPANIES TO MAKE GAMES THAT ARE FULLY AND COMPLETELY RELIANT ON EXTERNAL SERVERS TO THE POINT THAT NO ALTERNATIVES CAN EVER BE IMPLEMENTED
just because they wish to enforce planned obsolescence so that new product doesn't have to compete against old product.

And you're an absolute mega cunt and likely a literally paid corporate shill to imply otherwise.

The same retards that give a shit about this also believe you won't be able to play your steam games if the servers ever shut down.

>>713463226
>it hasn't affected me personally yet

>>713463294
>Why would I willingly give my money away for a product like that?
Because after years of "it doesn't matter bro" now every game has it. Weird how that works.

>>713463215
Correct, responsibility for terms set by someone else that you agreed to. Read it next time or don't agree to it.

>>713461837
>hating corporations is gommunism or somethin
You deserve everything you get.

>>713461150
/v/ users are the most pathetic paypiggies who base their principles on what annoys other people because they're so inferior that trying to get a rise out of people is the only way they can show they exist. They will never have accomplishments to name, never have the home or family they wish for, they will remain dirt their entire lives.

>>713463226
This is unfortunately the core problem with Ross’ crusade.
Until an actually notable game dies in the way he describes you will never be able to drum up enough support to make change. Nobody but autistic contrarians care about some shovelware diablo clone or driving game or long dead and buried MMO that likely has private servers up and running for it anyway.
Darkspore and The Crew are not hills worth dying on.

>>713463357
How are you going to download them without resorting to piracy?

>ignore Thor
>get shown the door

>>713463180
so you're a loser

>>713462101
>waahhh why doesn't the car rental store let me buy cars!!!

>>713463395
So stop buying and playing games that reserve the right to terminate your access to them.

Honestly this failed because most retards don't understand what it was actually about. big mistake not explaining it in simple layman terms for the averags gaymer, which would've avoid tons of idiots thinking it was about forcing companies to maintain online servers forever which is obviously impossible and unprofitable

>>713463470
the same way i won't be able to download gog games when their servers get shut down

We've been telling you all year that this was a stupid idea doomed to fail, but you didn't listen. I guess you can cope by calling people that were right about everything pajeets though.

>>713462550
>names himself pirate software
>is a corporate cocksucker
Congrats cuck, you'll never own anything you "buy", ever. They will also not only never preserve games but won't allow you to either.

>>713462550
>mana gem
>voice synthesizer
>nepo baby
>animal well
he never did

>>713463251
soviets made stuff that lasted forever, you can still just plug in something that was made 60 years ago in the soviet union and it works perfectly, but it fucked the economy, because there was no need to produce anything and buy anything, it just leads to a stagnant economy, if all everyone does is play old games then the gaming economy will stagnate too, having no obsolescence is a communist idea, planned obsolescence is a capitalist idea

>>713460961 (OP)
>sign this petition
>no
>one line insult
Seriously, every fucking thread read this way for 500 posts. What was the endgame? Nobody is going to be convinced to sign if every reply is an insult.

>>713463686
>We

>>713463242
I don't give a fuck about shitty racing games and neither should you. Actually, every single game that is live service HAS NO AESTHETIC JUSTIFICATION TO EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE. WOULD YOU REALLY PLAY THESE SHITTY GAMES IF THEY WEREN'T LIVE SERVICE? WOULD YOU LOOK BACK ON THE CREW AS THE PINNACLE OF CVLTVRE?

>>713463346
>The corpos did a hecking holocaust on me by shutting down my shitty obamaracing game so they can actually move on and MAKE MORE MONEY FROM ME TO BUY THE NEXT RACING GAME SO THEY CAN STAY AFLOAT AND NOT FUCKING DIE. HOW DARE A CORPORATION MAKE MONEY AND NOT BE A COZY ANTI-CAPITALIST COMMUNIST UTOPIA!

>>713463438
Normie Sadism.

>>713463672
1. congrats on refuting yourself and proving that
>you won't be able to play your steam games if the servers ever shut down.
and 2. GOG offers you the possibility of downloading the install kits for offline use right now, you don't have the luxury of backups with Steam

>>713462669
>doesn't understand what the movement was about
enjoy your victory with a strawman

>>713463762
You lost, Ross.

>>713461150
I really struggle to believe there's enough communists to oppose the idea of private property to this extent. Seems like such a no brainer that people want to own what they paid for and like.

>>713463859
And there you have it. The goalposts moving. Hang yourself you waste of sperm.

>>713463794
Yes, we being the people that disagreed with your reddit/discord shill campaign

>>713463640
It failed because people have zero self preservation instincts and heavily rely on authority figures to tell them what to do and how to think.
Why do you think we are still worshipping idols in the age of information?

>>713463686
The debate was never about whether jews would win or not, they always win.
The debate was about what a fair world where jews don't own all judges, platforms and videogame companies should be like.
But in such a world, this kind of pro-user/customer legislation wouldn't even be necessary either.

>>713463868
>>713463947
Not an argument. I won.

The prevalence of "but I don't like/play that game" just shows how impressively low IQ /v/ has always been.

>reddit troons lost again
Are we in a new timeline or something?

>>713460961 (OP)
Why everyone hates this guy again?

>>713463791
You can't expect anyone on /v/ to be a rational adult that can control their emotions.

>>713463640
I would argue Ross went out of his way to explain it as simply as possible. He has NUMEROUS videos, and even a few shorts on the subject. Problem is, there's a certain floor for complexity. If you try simplify a concept past that, you're effectively just lying to people.

>>713462550
he was ultimately right in the end, as always

>>713463640
>>713463959
or because nobody cares, only the most autistic faggots obsess over playing the same game for decades, most people just play a game, uninstall it then go play something else, no sane person goes BUT I NEED TO KEEP REPLAYING THIS GAME FOR A DECADE 500 TIMES, who cares, retard, stop sperging at me

>>713461171
The problem is that many bloated AAA games need special infrastructure to play them (Server grade GPUs) and the way things work is that once the contract with the original developers is over, the publisher moves on.
In some instances like Murdered: Soul Suspect, the developer filled for bankrupcy just around the time of release which does not interfere with the Publisher because it is a project they commissioned, even when the possibility for further patches or a sequel is completely off the table in that case.

There are way too many reasons why this does not work.
Anywhere from the original devs not being present, to companies losing the source code already, to the fact that patching old titles is still work that needs to be paid for and the way companies work is that you need to fill in a lot of paperwork to get anything done. There are like several orders that go through different departments if you so much want a measly localization update to fix a grammatical error.

>>713463242
You can pirate The Crew, btw.

>>713464041
>b-but it'll totally affect you in the future!
No, it won't.

>>713463957
>we

Soo he will finally start doing game dungeons again or gonna fade away in shame?

>Karl Lost
>Ross Lost
TOTAL INTERNET GRIFTER DEATH!

>>713460961 (OP)
We did it Reddit!

Pirate bros can't stop winning

>>713464003
You're just proving >>713463438 right as per usual. Do you not feel shame living like this?

>>713464164
It will and you'll still excuse it because you're just that much of a goytoy.

>>713464003
>>713463868

>>713464326
>two more weeks!

Use code #REDDITLOST for 10% off Rickey's World Famous Sauce.

>>713464314
>do I feel shame not supporting a stupid failed internet shill campaign started by an eceleb
oddly enough I don't

>>713464103
What do you lose from others getting to keep what they paid for?

>>713464115
This can all be fixed by the simple fucking step of HAVING AN END-OF-LIFE PLAN FROM THE START!

If a dev studio dies prematurely, they implement the EoL before the final papers are signed. Easy fucking peasy. But apparently that's still too much for some people.

>>713464334
>the goalpost heckin moved my strawman or however my cock got turned into a vagina

>>713464389
you got what you paid for, read the terms of service

>>713464301
Usually you can't pirate an online-only game.

>>713462550
Arrr I'm sorry me matey

>>713464383
I like how you had to strawman what I said in order to deflect. You do feel shame. But you hide it under layers of irony to try and not let it hurt you. The pain will only get worse. Change who you are or you will continue to deserve it. Failure.

>>713464346
You like the exact kind of shit games that will be the first to embrace even more draconian DRM schemes.

>>713460961 (OP)
This didn't affect the US so I shilled against it. Glad it worked.

>>713464115
Nigger nobody expects ALL games going back to Pong to implement offline mode. Just all games released say, after 2030, which is extremely easy to account for.

>>713464481
It would affect the US by extension though.

>>713464451
If people actually care as much as you claim why couldn't you manage to get even half of the required signatures?

>>713464452
>publishers will somehow go back in time and retroactively add DRM to my SNES games

>>713464251
No, you lost.
Again.
>>713464195
His fucking fanbase is so fucking obnoxious that any possibility that he will come around and do something on par with Civil Protection again is dim.

>oh no not my gachas
LOL

>>713464403
>dude comes to a chess match
>takes your king off your board and shoves it up his ass
>"Checkmate, I won"
You sure did buddy, you sure did.

>doesn't watch the video and just makes kneejerk threads about it

>>713463861
That wasn't me you fucking idiot, not to mention he brings up the fact you retarded pavement apes bitch about this shit with Steam but not gog for some fuckin reason.

>>713464086
because i was paid to

>itt: /pol/fags and falseflagging AAA employees try to gaslight the videogame community into giving up their right to own.

>>713464671
Did not read. I won.

should have just stuck to the wacky game reviews and half-life movies

>>713464671
He read this post multiple times btw

>>713464696
GOG
>offers offline installers
Steam
>doesn't offer offline installers
It's that simple.

>>713462171
C

>>713464695
>I-It'll get more votes in one month than it will in the past 11 I swear!
>two more weeks!

>>713464725
You have lost the culture war.
Whether or not you give up doesn’t matter. We won.

>all these ironic retards ITT

>>713461150
Pretty simple, Reddit and Resetera are anti-DRM and pro-consumer rights so obviously 4chan can't be on the same boat as those platforms hence the bizarre pro-DRM stance on here.

>>713464562
SNES hardware already has DRM and some games even had anti-piracy for contemporary game copiers. Nintendo also has stated for decades that all emulators are illegal. If they had their way their online service would be the only modern way to play SNES games.

>>713460961 (OP)
Why does every thread read the same? Why does every criticism get spammed with replies that always get argumentative instead of trying to convince other lurkers?
Are these real people? Do these real people think is a good way to convince new people?
Spamming the catalog constantly while posting the same insults every time for months?

It didn't even pass and the same insults and spam is still here.

>>713462101
the loophole is that they sell a service, not products.

>>713462101
Capitalism never guaranteed the right to private ownership, only that capital is the most important thing in your society, and that those with the most capital can mold it however they want
And those with the most capital have figured out that they can get even MORE capital if they don't let you own things
This is simply the next logical evolution of unchecked capitalism

>world is on the brink of economic collapse and WW3 because of president cheetoh
>”ummm wtf why nobody wants to rally for the preservation of EA shovelware with me???”””
Rosscels are something else.

>>713460961 (OP)
If American law isn't affected then no country gets to have it. Suck my dick yuropoors.

>just maintain servers for games with zero players until the heat death of the universe
>>that's not feasible
>fine, just spend more time and money adding an offline mode that will be held in a legal trust for when the servers shut down 20 years later
wow I can't believe this didn't manage to gain millions of supporters

>>713465049
>two more weeks
Range ban all /pol/niggers.

>>713462550
Didn't this guy end up getting into like ten entirely different controversies where he was unequivocally in the wrong since?

>PCMR trolled every fanbase relentlessly for decades
>now asks for favors

>>713463907
Communists don't oppose personal property, just the privatization of capital. Communists would support this sort of consumer rights campaign if it wasn't wholly pointless due to the inherent exploitative nature of capitalism being the true problem and if it wasn't just an excuse for reactionaries to push an agenda. Notice that the far more socialist European states already crack the whip against corporations, even in ways right wingers hate like holding tech companies' feet to the fire to crack down on hate speech.

>>713461084
Didn't a cop kill Bazz and that got concord shut down?

>>713465153
No?
He was right every single time. Just like he was about this.

>>713463357
The games that rely on steam APIs would certainly lose at least a part of their functionality

>>713465153
Yep

>>713465153
Narcissists are never wrong, just eternal victims of circumstance.

>>713465093
>Harder daddy, I love the taste

>>713464003

>>713465226
>He was right every single time
>>713463782
niggerfaggot

>>713464989
I think the whole thing would be a lot more convincing to me if the point was archiving games for future generations, like I don't care if a game I played shuts down, I already played it, but if you tell me that if I wanted to show the game to my kids then they couldn't play it because the servers shut down then I'd say that hmmm yeah, true, archiving games is something I can support, so people who aren't born yet can play them too, but if it's a silly angle of "BUT I PAID FOR IT SO IT MUST BE MINE FOREVER" is silly and will never get any mass sympathy

>>713465093
why have the game rely servers in the first place

>>713464993
Then they should be made to provide a specific definition of when the service ends. Like, if you buy... a hypothetical Destiny 3 for $90 as a one-time purchase, then there needs to be a big fat warning right at point of sale that says you will lose access to this game forever on February 29th 2032 or whatever.

Why did this guy think he would somehow get the US government to change copyright laws over "muh shitty live service games"?

>>713465292
Rossies be mashing triangle right now

>>713464103
>people have no self preservation instincts
>people who only care about things are autistic faggots

Not sure why you thought was some kind of gotcha but okay.

>>713460961 (OP)
I guess that one didn't mold well

>>713464830
>t. retard

>>713465345
because the people that created the game decided to do it that way
is the government going to step in and micromanage every part of game development now?

>>713465364
While I like this idea publishers will never allow this.

>>713460961 (OP)
holy shit new 1 hour video about fucking nothing just dropped, can't wait to put it on my second monitor and forget about it

>>713465404
>if I can't play live service slop 2023 edition FOREVER then I'll LITERALLY DIE
lmao, autist, don't try to elevate emotional language or you'll just get laughed at

Why would any consumer rally against getting more rights unless they were getting paid to vouch for corporations that don't care about them, or without being victims of propaganda?

>>713465452
>government going to step in and micromanage
false dichotomy and strawman
educate yourself

>>713465373
Oh no. He wrote off the US from the start. Americans have no consumer rights. The courts decided that years ago. In the EU, however, it's a different story. No laws currently exist that address the practice of killing games, and there are better avenues to help introduce it and more consumer protection agencies that you can make cases to.

>>713465373
He should have made it about Israel somehow, then it wouldn't even be an issue.

>>713465546
The government can't "give" me rights. All they can do is take away the right to make the game devs want to make and my right to decide for myself what games I want to purchase.

>>713465452
>because the people that created the game decided to do it that way
Which was a decision made entirely out of greed.

>>713465546
>muh heckin consumer rights!!!!
What about the rights of corporations and developers?

total pajeet death

>>713465472
Precisely. If SKG helped get laws passed that forced it, then almost all of them would certainly just opt to make a simple EoL plan instead. Better for everyone, cheaper for the publisher, even.

>>713465630
>>713465640
>oy vey think about da EA shareholdas

>>713465521
Are you purposely being stupid? What does anything you've said have any relevance to the topic at hand. Are you really upset at a very general statement that you have to come up with some strawman to shitpost with? I'm all for shitposting but you need to be better than that buddy, keep on sneeding bro

>>713464115
>The problem is that many bloated AAA games need special infrastructure to play them (Server grade GPUs)
That is incredibly wrong, anon. Server clients for games do not need GPUs at all because they don't render graphics at all.
When people talk about server grade GPUs, they're likely talking about cards like the A100 which are used for tensor processing (machine learning, computer vision, matrix multiplication, etx). They are not used in video games in any way

>>713465750
video games are not an issue of "self preservation instincts" you fucking autist lmao, this is why you get laughed at, wtf are you even sperging about

Just put the fries in the bag Ross

>>713465373
It was never trying to do anything in the US retard

>>713465630
>take away the right to make the game devs want to make
How is having to ensure the game is still playable long term doing that?
Can you imagine what would happen if, say, a company sold a car that would suddenly stop moving if they took their servers offline?
>>713465640
You only need to guarantee the rights of those that would have them violated by others
Corporations are already the ruling class, and thus do not need nearly as much protection as the people corporations exploit

I have a conspiracy theory that at least half of the most retarded Ross-opposers in those threads are actually Ross-agreers falseflagging the shit out of the thread.
Keep on the good work anons.

I hope Thor dies a painful, humiliating death.

>>713465153
Nope. Just really one controversy with many events relating to it

>>713465935
>a company sold a car that would suddenly stop moving if they took their servers offline?
different anon, but aren't those literally Teslas?

>>713465546
You can't own a service.

>>713466040
The shittiest electric cars in the market that people only buy for ideological purposes?
Those Teslas?

>haha jews get to fuck us harder
the absolute state of this brownoid infested board

>>713465935
>Can you imagine what would happen if, say, a company sold a car that would suddenly stop moving if they took their servers offline?
oh no no no, no one tell this guy KEEEK

Unreleated question: But do you people think there is a point in having laws for bike helmets or should the stupid ones just get fooked? Also include your opinion on the whole "Stop killing games" matter for no reason.

>>713464115
Not the customers problem.

>>713466137
Why?
Tons of games had user-run servers for years

>>713466157
Why aren't you answering my question?

>>713466038
The cheating at puzzles while acting like a child's idea of a genius was way funnier. And sperging out over Steam adding a disclaimer for abandoned games (because it directly effects him, of course). And spending eight years on a really shitty Undertale clone that still isn't finished.

>>713465908
>Consumer rights are not an issue of "self preservation instincts" you fucking autist lmao
Again somehow you are trying to play this as some sort of gotcha? You are playing this too stupid and way too hard to be taken seriously. Stop overplaying your hand, be subtle and try to be relevant to the topic instead of pulling some whataboutism.
Also dilate and Sneed

>>713465630
>The government can't "give" me rights.
This is quite possibly the most retarded thing I've ever read on the internet, and I've been on this website for 15+ years.
Jesus fucking christ read a goddamn book, the government is the only reason you have ANY rights.

>>713466241
>what this petition seeks to achieve already occurs naturally without any government intervention
Then there is no problem. The Crew was a bad game and failed accordingly.

>>713466318
I did, Teslas are fucking awful and not what you should be looking at for service/product quality

>>713466321
>spending eight years on a really shitty Undertale clone that still isn't finished
btw it was kickstarted, so he literally scammed people who payed him

>>713466395
get a load of this bootlicker
did you get government permission to make that post?

>>713463640
>Honestly this failed because most retards don't understand what it was actually about.
It failed because EU petitions have retarded rules making it so trying to get even slight consumer protections requires you to get a ridiculous amount of signatures from every single survey before they'd even look at the idea. Meanwhile, unpopular pro-corporate policies get the rubber stamp no problem. When asked to show their biggest accomplishment, all they have to flaunt is forcing Apple to use USB-C.

>>713466476
>government boot bad
>corporation boot? oh step on me daddy

>>713463357
You do know that even the offline mode requires you to log back in every now and then?
At best you can download a crack or emulated for what you already have downloaded but a lot of developers are niggers and will require a server check

>>713466447
NIGGER HOW IS THIS RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION
You said imagine a car which would stop running when servers were down, I said that's a Tesla, and you're like "hurrhurr Teslas are shit", so fucking what? This doesn't change anyhting.
Choke on a cactus retard

>>713466471
Ross indirectly called this out in his latest video, likely without even knowing. "So taking money with no plan that's a grift."

>>713466207
yes there is a point, because if there is no law to wear helmets then you can just fall off your bike, hit your head and then sue the city for having dangerous roads, whereas if there's laws to wear helmets then it's your fault for not wearing a helmet and hitting your head, and can't sue the city for it
I think there's a point in archiving games, but people crying that they bought something and therefore it must be available to them forever is stupid, if genshin shuts down personally I don't care, I already had my fun with it, but thinking about how future generations won't be able to play it does make me think that it should be archived, genshin is a marvel of humanity and people should be able to enjoy it for centuries to come, regardless of how I feel about the fate of my account or other people's accounts

>>713466426
User owned game servers have not been a common thing in videogames for the last decade and a half, that's the whole problem
They stopped using then once developers realised that they could squeeze more money out of people by privatizing the game servers

>>713466626
>grift
I hate this newspeak. It's a scam. But I'm glad he subtly called that out.

>>713460961 (OP)
>celebrating this shit
Here's your (you). It still makes you a retarded niggerfaggot. Enjoy the taste of corporate cock

>>713464383
A campaign based on making developers not be allowed to take your digital games away?

>>713466610
>imagine if horrible thing was real
>in fact, horrible thing IS real, so you shouldn't have any problem with other horrible thing, I am very intelligent

>>713466353
for video games? no they are not lol, people will of course have their self preservation kick in when it's something relevant, like food, water, electricity and such, you know, stuff you need to SURVIVE, not luxury products for the bored and affluent

I really don't see the issue with devs releasing server tools once the game reaches end of life. They're not hard to make at all and you can just leave it to the community to host their own servers afterwards. Sometimes it makes me wonder if the people against it are just being ironic or just that dumb. Even if it's ironic what's the benefit on being against something that benefits you no matter what?

Gamers under about 30yo were never exposed to concepts like third-party dedicated servers and listen mode. They've never played a game over LAN, they've never seen a server browser.
Instead their understanding is that, if a game has the tiniest hint of multiplayer functionality, then it relies fundamentally on "the server". They believe that a server costs millions of dollars to run, contains trade secrets that would ruin the company if revealed, and must be continuously updated throughout the game's commercially relevant life.

Without first fixing this misunderstanding, this campaign had no chance of success.

>>713466721
Who’s taking my games away? Every game I have ever played in my life is easily within my reach on several platforms.

>>713466650
>User owned game servers have not been a common thing in videogames for the last decade and a half, that's the whole problem
>>713466241
>Tons of games had user-run servers for years

>>713466797
The problem is that this would throw a wrench into their FOMO strategies

>>713466846
Time is ticking on your CMOS batteries

>>713466893
Oh I understand the business perspective of being against it but what I don't understand is being against it as a consumer. Ironically or unironically. Do you enjoy being screwed out of your money or what?

>>713466861
These are not contradictory statements you tard
Tons of games had user-run servers for years... IN THE PAST, thus showing that it's a very simple and achievable goal
And now they don't anymore, that's the problem

>>713466724
>so you shouldn't have any problem with other horrible thing
I didn't say that retard
Stop putting your delusions into other people's mouths

>>713460961 (OP)
LETS FUCKING GO! TOTAL ROSS FAILURE! Gamers won. Youtubers lost.
>>713466720
You're e-daddy doesn't care about you and his petition was doomed to fail from the start. It was a cynical attention-grabbing ploy designed to stir up drama and get him views. He knew it was a stupid idea from the start, but you fell for it hook line and sinker.

>>713466975
Pretty sure most of the components in any of my devices will outlive me but I guess I can replace a part or two if ever needed. Hell I still have hardware from 20 years ago as a kid that still works like it was new in box.

>>713467010
>And now they don't anymore
Yeah they do

>>713467003
>Do you enjoy being screwed out of your money or what?
the anons celebrating this guy (>>713462550) sure do

>>713460961 (OP)
The whole thing gave off grift vibes, so it's not surprising that a lot of people didn't care about it.

>>713467003
We currently have quite possibly the highest amount of corporate bootlickers in history due to unprecedented levels of targeted propaganda
For many people, rooting for their chosen company has replaced religion
Even in this site and board, which is supposedly counter culture, people circlejerk over sales charts that do not affect them in any way

>>713467210
>grift
opinion discarded

>Actually it's good that there is an incentive for obsolete garbage to be made, over and over again
Can someone be genuine and tell me why they are like this?

>>713466531
Of course the obvious difference is that buying a game is a choice

>>713467276
That's not how you get votes, kid

>>713467070
>Gamers won
The right to continue getting fucked in the ass by soulless corporations?

>>713466640
You must be 100% american if the first inconvenience that comes to mind is the amount of lawsuits that would come out of it. Jesus fucking christ.

>>713466893
>this would throw a wrench into their FOMO strategies
No? If SKG went through the way they intended FOMO strategies would be far more lucrative because they could just say
>hey, we're shutting down the game after a year for the next one better enjoy while you can!

>>713467186
I love laughing at sore losers. Billy won. Pirate won. Seethe.

>>713460961 (OP)
fuck this nazi trying to steal all developers money and starve them all to death

>>713467289
Some "people" aren't actually human, they're cattle.

>>713465216
I really really like this post

>>713467467
Spoken like a true israeli

>>713467375
>he thinks that SGK helped comsumers
If you don't want to get fucked just don't buy the games until they're good. You can't even say shit like
>voting with your wallet doesn't work!
Because look at the switch game keys flopping.

>>713467245
I think it's less to do with religious fervor but more terminal contranianism. People have become so accustomed to be against 'thing' that they're perfectly willing to throw themselves under the bus if it means the person (or people) they're against get thrown under it too. Like all this campaign was what, signing a petition to get the ball rolling on potentially policy making? It's the most milquetoast campaign ever but the pushback against it was so severe that it makes me wonder if there's actual industry plants trying to astroturf consent against consumer rights or something.

>>713467210
How? You couldn't even donate to it or anything. How would it be making money?

>>713467070
pls stop using pepe if you just gonna attach it to a retarded post

>>713466513
Its also why GDPR, which should have been a slam dunk for privacy, became a nightmare of cookie pop-ups. All they had to do was write a clause saying "companies must respect the d-not-track header". But companies didn't like it so it got thrown out. And now if you visit any website from within the EU, you get bombarded with full screen cookie pop-ups full of dark patterns trying to trick you into "consenting". Oh, and it doesn't even matter because they put in a "legitimate interest" clause that says they can track you even if you say no. Its all theater that doesn't actually hurt their bottom line.

>>713460961 (OP)
It was obviously going to be impossible without America's help.

>>713460961 (OP)
it's over... the mold won

>>713467289
I think it's a handful of retards trying to troll

>>713467210
>grift
Opinion taken into consideration

>>713467426
that's just how it is, rules aren't there to protect you, rules are there to protect the service providers from lawsuits started by idiots doing stupid shit

>>713467467
>>713467565
>there are people who will defend their right to be enslaved
Israel won

>>713467210
That's probably because you're stupid.

>>713467436
Thor exposed himself as a gay furry lolcow, you fag.

Only kikes and their cattle are on the PirateSoftware side

>>713460961 (OP)
>retards celebrating for something against their own interest

>>713467431
>hey, we're shutting down the game after a year for the next one better enjoy while you can!
And after they do nothing happens because the game remains playable?

>>713463782
He is doing it correctly though by never apologizing. You also forgot Outer Wilds.

>Gets stuck on simple puzzle for multiple loops
>"wait a second"
>*thinks really hard while looking at phone*
>Solves puzzle instantly

>>713467289
"For teh lulz" taken up to 11
Many people here would sink their own boat just to laugh at the other passengers getting mad about it

>>713467845
>retards celebrating for something against their own interest
I'm actually happy Concord and the Crew are completely unplayable and your e-daddy lost while milking you and your fellow commies for advertising revenue. If Ross wasn't so evil I'd consider him based for abusing you idiots.

>>713467210
this it gave me an icky mansplaining eurocentric alt right fascist grifterino

>>713463782
>voice synthesizer
To be fair, he has the levels set the same way that every radio DJ does. Nobody naturally has that voice.

BEHOLD
ANOTHER GREAT EU REGULATION FORCED ON THE PUBLIC FOR THEIR OWN GOOD

>>713467941
>never apologizing
Classic narcissist compulsive liar technique that would've maybe worked 30 years ago but brought his downfall in the age of everything being recorded on stream.

>>713467789
you lost

>>713467789
> Thor is an actual faggot
not that surprising the actual surprising thing is he isn't a troon

>>713464547
Not that anon but you clearly do considering how much time you've wasted arguing your inane and faggy strawman arguments lmao you actually are a pathetic loser by the way

>>713468051
>To be fair, he has the levels set the same way that every radio DJ does. Nobody naturally has that voice.
Why did he deny it then?

>>713468059
Did anyone not just keep the lid to screw it back on? Were the hoards of African and Muslims Eurabians decided to replace themselves with for no reason just throw bottlecaps everywhere?

>>713468059
I sincerely do not understand how someone could get mad at this
Now you open the bottle, and no longer have to hold the cap, it stays with the bottle where it belongs
If you really, really want to hold the cap then rip it off, assuming you're not a sissy who hasn't even got the upper arm strength to remove some plastic

>>713468059
Relax grandpa. You always bragged about how tough it was back in the day. Surely this wont be the one thing that will bring you down.

>>713468328
>>713468330
with that logic why don't you just not buy always online games?

>>713461486
Wrong. Electronics from the 80's still work while your new shiny toy is lucky to last a couple years.

>>713468438

>>713468059
>>713468314
My personal theory is that it was forced by recycling corpos, because bottle plastic is shit to recycle but the cork/lid plastic is great for recycling so they wanted to make sure lid is always there with a bottle.
(aside from the fact that recycling plastic is a scam ofc)

>>713468218
You're panicking.

>>713468209
>Downfall
>More popular now than before the drama

Ya hes a narcissist compulsive liar, but that still works today. Look at Trump

>go on /v/
>see contrarian opinion
like rainfall during a storm

>>713462550
>Knows opsec
>Doesn't keep his history under wraps
lmao

>>713468328
We were used to how the things were and it's an annoying change with no sensible reason really. Also sometimes it's annoying when you want to pour something with one hand and first lids were often badly designed, it improved a bit and we got used to it anew I guess.

>>713468557
I agree. The people have spoken and their will is clear, they do not want the government interfering with video game development. The SKG shills/trolls need to give it a rest.

>>713461084
Play Gacha games forever. China won

>>713467851
>because the game remains playable?
What do you mean?
They wouldn't be playable. The choices given were
>give out the server tools
OR
>give games a date from the day of purchase
Did you even read what this was about?

>>713468556
>>More popular now than before the drama
False

>>713465737
Well, they're the ones funding the games that I love to play. So yes, I do think about corporations. And I think they should continue stopping things that cause them harm (losing money by supporting 10 year old servers that nobody plays on)

>>713468783
>Tranimeslop
I wish Zhonguo can use their own indigenous civilization's aesthethics rather than mindlessly aping crapanese, I get why Koreans and Westroons copy since they're soulless barbarians but china has over 9000 years of high civilization and culture to draw from.

Hershel you gotta see this, I think I found the perfect goy. >>713468920

>>713468783
This is a CHILD

>>713463859
>HOW DARE A CORPORATION MAKE MONEY AND NOT BE A COZY ANTI-CAPITALIST COMMUNIST UTOPIA!
You think you can't make money and be pro-capitalism without running with planned obsolescence for your games?

>>713469061
10, etc

>>713467341
Until every game has the practice
>then I won't ever buy a game again!
Alright you've let corporate rot kill the industry for you. Is this a victory?

>>713467590
>it makes me wonder if there's actual industry plants trying to astroturf consent against consumer rights or something.
really makes you think

>>713468783
Based. And you can watch people seethe about it in real time. "Our shitty uggos should be getting all those dollars" "But we hired all these brown voice actors" "It's ok, we still bought up all the rights to everything from your childhood so we can stick transsexuals in it".

But it doesn't matter, they'll have to literally ban everything from outside the west to have a chance to compete.

>>713462550
Didn't this guy get outed as a gay furry that spent all his day ERPing in discord?
lmao are you sure you wanna suck his dick?

>>713465325
>i would find this more compelling if it was more in line with my desire to be cucked by corporations
okay

>>713468023
>your e-daddy
Who?
>you and your fellow commies
What?
>Ross
Who???

How can you believe this is about Concord and The Crew? How can you believe this is pro-communism? What the fuck...

>>713465015
that doesn't make cents, they still need to pay taxes, they still need to obey laws, and if they don't sell products or services they get no capital.

and people can choose not buy said products or services, unlike commies who only have 1 (one) market which you cannot deviate from with the threat of death, see spain,

>>713469658
>Rossdrone loses so hard he keeps spamming blatant lies
kek

>>713462550
Imagine defending the grifter who lied about the initiative because he's involved with a live service game himself. How can you be this cucked and low IQ?

>>713464098
He wasn't right about anything. He blatantly lied because he's a corpo cocksucker.

>>713470580
Ross and Slop Kringing Goys is the only grift

>>713464871
Leftist grifters who hate consumers being able to own things are not "we", tourist.

>>713464885
>Reddit and Resetera are anti-DRM and pro-consumer rights
What kind of bizarro earth did you come from? Those places are just about the biggest mega corpo bootlickers imaginable.

There are people in this thread who would defend adding sawdust to bread.
"Just don't buy a bread with sawdust, man"

>>713470712
In what possible way.

>>713463789
You are completely mistaking concepts. It's like saying that being poor and hungry is a communist idea because communist states can have a better hold of their cattle if their cattle's biggest worry is having a meal at night.
And that being technologically behind is also a communist idea, since they are.

>>713470523
here's your idol anon
https://x.com/LyricWulf/status/1933215907675029718

>>713465093
>just maintain servers
Stop believing roach software's lies and actually look up what the initiative was about, redditor.

>>713465210
You need to be over 18 to post here.

>>713470712
>loses money hand over fist and doesn't let you financially contribute to it
>grift

>>713470915
cope
real chads bake their own bread anyways
keep seething you dumb cuck

>>713465226
>He was right every single time.
He literally lied, your dumb retard.

>>713465546
Leftists are the biggest corporate bootlickers ever. They see something pushing for more consumer protection and they lose their fucking minds.

>>713463090
>an eula is a contract
No it isn't. Didn't read the rest because I know it's more of the same shill lies.

>>713470915
sawdust sounds tasty...

>>713463226
>i didn't really like that guy so it's okay he was murdered
good morning sir

>>713462550
I was with him this whole time on this issue. Ferrets are disgusting fuck off.

>>713460961 (OP)
We did it krabs!. Our bucket won!

Commies dont deserve good faith debate, make sure to annoy and use all
fallacies possible to make them seethe

>>713471228
Lefties are the ones I see speaking the loudest in favor of this whole games preservation thing though. I think you're getting your teams mixed up

>>713471423
I mean Marx himself said that debate is the tool of the oppressor, so.

>>713463090
Doctrine of Unconscionability.
If a company presents an EULA that no reasonable person reads and hides significant terms inside, courts can deem those terms unenforceable.
This is specially true when there is a big disparity in power among parties, like a single person vs a multi-million dollar company.

>>713461486
No, can we stop with this blatant retardation of "Capitalism is x"? The word from the start is recent and mainly defined by the very people that say they're against it. There is no "Ideology" of Capitalism, no defined philosophy. It's just a new word for trade and ownership of goods and property, that's it. There's no set specific "Goal" like with communism, socialism, fascism etc. It's even worse when retards also try to act as if corporatism and government meddling in shit is also "Capitalism" for the sole purpose of pushing for their smoothbrained ideas of "worker revolution".

I kindly beg everyone to stop pretending there's such a thing as "Late game capitalism" and treating like it's some established ideology.

>>713461837
>owning what you buy is communist

>>713460961 (OP)
Gacha games are the future

>>713460961 (OP)
Cool. Gonna pirate all my games from now on.

>>713471072
Underage tourists are the ones regurgitating reactionary propaganda from the Cold War like they've been groomed to do by right wing influencers lol

>There's PirateSoftcock viewers itt
>probably Cenk's NepoNephew viewers as well
I'm too old for this shit

>>713460961 (OP)
The petition had no chance of ever working. And that's by design. Because you need a million signatures for each member state when for some that's almost half the total population.
I live in Portugal. We have about 10 million people. A tenth of the entire country would have to sign. In a country with over 40% abstinence from voting on elections.
It was doomed.

>>713463090
The argument was never "EULAs can't do this," it's "EULAs shouldn't be allowed to do this." Existing games would also get grandfathered in and still be allowed to kill themselves, it's something aiming to change how things work in the future.

You should really do the absolute most miniscule amount of basic research on something before you make an ass out of yourself like this

>>713471790
lol
lmao

>>713471790
Can't pirate online only games, which this initiative was going to try to save.

>>713471837
>reactionary propaganda from the Cold War like they've been groomed to do by right
leftroons are the ones who've spent an entire decade screeching and crying about muh soviet russian hackers albeit.

TOTAL
GRIFTCEL
DEFEAT

>>713460961 (OP)
this guy looks super hairy

>>713463640
It didn't hit the threshold because no one knows the initiatives are a thing. This is why something like this NEEDS a media strategy. Unfotunately Ross didn't realize this before it was way too late. No, relying on word of mouth from a traditionally non-social demographic isn't going to cut it.

Take a look at the ones that did hit the threshold. All of it is the kind of hippie shit the supporters are physically incapable of not talking about for more than a pico second at a time. Obnoxious as that may be, it does get the word out so people are actually aware that the signature collection is a thing.

>>713472007
Explain to me how something that makes no money is a grift

>>713465630
>studios won’t be able to make concord
>this is somehow a bad thing

>>713472040
Yeah, that's what happens when a regular males diet isn't destroyed by microplastics

>>713463438
These are bots not anons
You dumb fuck

>>713471519
Reading an EULA is useless too, as it can be changed at any time. They can just do what the fuck they want, how is this still legal?

>>713471867
>Because you need a million signatures for each member state when for some that's almost half the total population.
That's not true. We needed 1 mil total from all states together. You don't know what you're talking about.

>/v/ unironically cheering over the idea of owning nothing
I never want to see any of you faggots complain about greedy kikes after this

>>713472058
holy slops this singehandedly made the holy reddits lose all of the SKG

>>713460961 (OP)
Always online games are shit by default and world lost nothing with the closure of The Crew. No one will play any of the modern ''always online'' games in 20 years.

>>713462550
Isn't he literally a narcissist.

>>713471867
good morning sir
mumbai is not in portugal

>>713464115
he literally says in EVERY video about this that
a) making it retroactive is not viable due to the way multiple aspects of the pipeline are licensed by third parties and the sheer scale, and that's FINE because
b) the movement is about changing development of FUTURE games in such a way that the devs can snip the cord and the customer still has a semi-functioning product

>>713471913
There hasn't been a single denuvo game that I wanted to play.
>>713471958
Sucks for people who play those, I guess.

>>713464830
there are DRM free games on steam

pic related have an offline installer, so Steam does offer Offline installers.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/738470/God_Of_Thunder/

>>713460961 (OP)
Simply use GOG.
/thread

>>713472423
yes but it doesnt fit my narrative so im going to ignore that

>>713460961 (OP)
Maybe if the supporters were obnoxious faggots it would've gained more traction, but you can't voice a single question without being called a shill

>>713471970
>soviet russian
It's weird how you reactionary dogs can't help but insert this outdated Cold War terminology no one cares about. The Soviet Union was bankrupted by American imperialism and sold off to capitalists, thus why the fascist American deep state led by criminals like Trump, understudy of Cold Warrior Roy Cohn, has such close ties to Putin. The American Right like Tim Pool are so comfy taking Russian money precisely because the Russian oligarchy are subordinate to American empire.

>>713472521
kys Steamfag
>Denuvo is on Steam
>always online games are on Steam
unironically kys and may your whole family kys with you

>>713472606
Ross had planned a video talking with Asmongold about the project, but he cancelled it because Ross consider Asmongold a nazi.

Ross is a special basket case.

>>713470910
Yeah sure, meanwhile I remember this place celebrating when Nintendo took down Yuzu and Ryujinx

>>713464989
>Why does every thread read the same?
Because jewbisoft et al. literally has pooinloos patrolling this board for the sole purpose of shitting up threads like this and they always go by the same script.

Publishers want to preserve the current status quo, because it means they'll keep getting away with breaking the law for profit.

>>713472802
based nintendo stomping commie rats

>>713472740
you cannot deny what you see with your own eyes, i made my post with evidence that Steam has offline installers if the developer chooses they can use them.

deny the truth like a fool of a moody school child, but the truth is right there

>>713465074
You have auto refunds on steam because of something just like this. Suck my dick burgernigger.

>>713472795
but that dirty roach is a jew?

>>713472925
Concession accepted then, /v/ likes corpo cock up the ass.

>>713472795
>Ross consider Asmongold a nazi.
He's right tho. Ass Man tard is a far right grifter freak

>>713472827
He's talking about you, shill. How many times have you posted that image?

>>713465452
>is the government going to step in and micromanage every part of game development now?
If said decisions are to do something that's outright illegal, then absolutely. Planned obsolence is not legal here in the civilized part of the world.

>>713472802
just goes to show once again that this place believes in nothing at all
since when nihilism become the default?

>>713473120
And yet you wanted to support and initiative that would have made it legal.

>>713473120
whitetards cant function without a nanny state telling them what to do and think.

>>713472795
Asmongold is a neonazi and your attempt to deny it is confirmation lol

I never knew what to do with this movement Yeah, it sucks when digital games get delisted and servers get shut down and shit. There have been thousands of games affected by this.... but at the same time... what can I do beyond sign a petition?

>>713472795
yeah, im sure that's exactly why ross commented on his channel when he covered it and why he also pointed out that exact same video in this one about how it got great media coverage
but please keep spreading random unsubstantiated bullshit

I just like seeing things fail to be honest

>>713465640
What right is being violated? And why is it more important than my right to own what I buy?
Do keep in mind that a game is a product and not a service, regardless of what a tos/eula says.

>>713473342
That explains your life I guess

>>713473247
>>713473003
>revealing yourself to be leftycucks
this is why you lost lol
pendulum swung the other way around

>>713465049
Global conflict is good for real progress, not the fake political kind. Rejoice.

>>713472795
What a dumbass. Regardless of hat you think about Asmon, he has the audience reach this movement badly needs.

>>713464115
the initiative is for future games, so it doesnt have to be that way anymore

>>713473209
>haha if i spew some random words that doesn't make sense then i win!
good morning sir

>>713472939
Let me know when we get game ownership back from steam

>>713473348
He's obviously shitposting anon but at the same time you should be able to buy and sell whatever you please and product and service aren't mutually exclusive terms, in fact a service is a product but not all products are services.

>>713472795
>>713473473
>some nigger that gets off of spreading disinfo for no reason

>>713473247
>Asmon is a neonazi
dude he's not even racist wtf

>>713473437
righturds lost all momentum by starting ww3 for israel in iran

>>713473514
>random words
Okay lets put it like this, you wanted SKG to go through, yes?

>>713473627
gross. fukken droppped

>>713473639
all you yankee cunts are the same to the rest of the world.

>>713473332
he had planned a discussion video, a video where Asmon and him talked about the project, not just the one where he covered the initial video (the one you posted) but cancelled it because what i said in previous post

Buy your games on GOG. This will make all publishers kneel. It is that simple.
/thread

>>713473730
post a sauce

>>713473247
>Asmongold is a neonazi
But he is pro-Israel...

>>713473594
it's not disinfo

>>713473739
>Buy your games

>>713473676
Keep digging whatever retarded trap you think you're making, streetshitter.

>>713473437
The pendulum never swung left in the first place lol
That's just another one of the delusional excuses you've cultivated to justify being an evil piece of shit. The culture war has always been privileged reactionaries trying to suppress and enslave, progressives trying to liberate from a subaltern position.

>>713473627
Of course he's racist, he just hides behind plausible deniability while dog whistling to drive his cultivated audience of neonazis who can fill in the gaps because all he's doing is reflecting their own sentiments back for their own entertainment. He even lets the mask slip sometimes and got banned for it.

>>713460961 (OP)
an example of how games should be is shit like tf2. The devs basically gave up on it, using the community to make all the new updates, but you can still host servers all you like and play indefinitely with the things you did/did not buy still working as intended. the fact that shit is left behind sucks, and is one of the reasons i dont buy games so much anymore. ross did his best, and if it doesnt accomplish anything ill still respect the hell out of what he tried. i just wish the US could've put up more of a fight

>>713473715
Kek you thing you Eurabians will be spared?

You've been getting bombed, chopped, shot and run over since Allahbros can't tell you apart from AmeriGODS

>>713464117
Really? And it works? Is it a decent driving game? It looked comfy in the video.
>>713464195
I think he said he's doing the 4th Game Dungeon follow-up episode next, a few small Game Dungeons, and then a hiatus to focus on THE MOVIE.

>>713473739
I would be more inclined to if the developers/publishers actually cared enough to have content/patch parity between GOG and Steam. There's way too many games where the GOG version is some ancient build that never gets updated for whatever reason.

>>713473859
Answer the question if you can read it anon.

>>713473715
What does baseball have to do with this?

There's only two attacks people have for SKG
>THE DEVS CAN'T BE EXPECTED TO KEEP THEIR SERVERS ONLINE FOREVER
and
>JUST DON'T BUY THE GAME AND EVEN IF THEY KEEP MAKING THEM I JUST WON'T BUY THEM
How the fuck are people rallying behind a lie from uninformed retards and the equivalent of covering your eyes and singing "la-la-la-la-la-la" because it "doesn't affect you"

>>713460961 (OP)
>AHAHAHA-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCKKK
Who the fuck cares? Fuck off with your eceleb mandrama bullshit, faggot. You're still shilling your eceleb boyfriend

>>713473957
>Is it a decent driving game?
No, it's pretty meh.

>>713473864
What proof do you have of him being racist? What dogwhistles? For now all I hear is
>everyone I don't like is a nazi

>>713473803
Zionism is a fascist political ideology distinguishable from Nazism only in that it is also a colonial ideology that needed to use genocide to seize it's ethnonationalist homeland because they didn't happen to already be there like Nazis in Germany and Austria pitching an Aryan homeland. Israel itself was established with the help of the post-WWII fascist world order resulting from the joining of American imperialism, European colonial fracture, and the remnants of Nazis willing to collaborate such as Reinhard Gehlen or any number of the Paperclip pets. Israel was founded with the help of Nazis lol

>>713473739
I always try to buy games from GOG not only because of the DRM-free policy but because they have better regional price in my country, for some reason Valve thinks the average consumer in my country has more expendable income than an American.

>>713460961 (OP)

>>713473947
shootings only make waves in the EU because they're so uncommon.
shootings in the Estados Unidos? so commonplace that they're unremarkable. you jerks are barbarians.

>>713474151
33B
objectively

>>713474121
Why do you even pretend not to be a nazi when there are no consequences for you scum lol

Sucks knowing that games will continue to be online-only multiplayer trash monetised with only seasonal battle passes.

>>713474134
>Jews are literally nazis
True but still hilarious.

>>713474142
>I always try
Don't try. Do.

>>713474232
>not answering the question
I accept your concession

>>713474032
Meanwhile the only defence for SKG was
>SHUT UP YOU DIDN'T READ IT NOT BUYING NEVER WORKS YOUR EXAMPLES DON'T EXIST YOURE A LEFTY BROWN TRANNY WHO ONLY EVER SAID THESE THINGS IN MY STRAWMAN
Like come on, how do you expect people to take you seriously if you're not going to act like civil human beings and discuss things properly

>>713460961 (OP)
>/v/ when they see VTubers and weeb stuff
>>>>/vt/ranny >>>/vt/ranny >>>/vt/ranny tranime YWNBAW
>/v/ when they see uglyass hairy manwhores and shitty mandrama
>OMFG I wanna fuck them so bad! I can't stop chatting about them!! XD
For a board that hates wokeshit, you sure are a faggy board. You ironically act like journalists.

>>713474220
There's no room for eurodivergent elitism when you guys suffer heat stroke fatalities at a rate of 100 times that of Americans, equal to our amount of deaths via gun homocides automobiles combined. Glass houses.

>>713460961 (OP)
.

the industry and threads like these are the reason why I either only puchase of GOG or stick to old games with an offline connection.

>I don't give a fuck about this thing. Why can't anyone else understand it and stop talking about it?
Are we in the lower or upper plane of autism?

>>713462669
this reads like a chris chan post

>>713474510
Maybe vtubers and anime should be relevant to video games? Because this petition is.

>>713474510
>Y-y-you aren't a simp for twitchthots or tranimeslop??????????????
Nope. Cope.

>>713461279
Yeah but this time HE made it about his own project. It's not some nobody making "MR BEAST IS OVER" videos

>>713474151
5 - 1 - F

i don't take risks

>>713474710
That's not autism but simple mental retardation.

Sucks for Ross but I'm glad he was able to tear the roach a new one before heading out the door and calling it

>>713464115
>The problem is that many bloated AAA games need special infrastructure to play them
No, stop acting like you know anythin about video games, its incredibly emberassing to look at.

>>713474853
>i don't take risks
>>>picks raw bread

>>713474413
It's incredibly hard to have real discussion when the opposing side has no idea what is actually being asked and is not willing to find out beyond their own opinion on the basic premise, even complaining that the name alone is misleading.
If you want to be a civil human being, how about coming to the conversation after reading so your examples actually have some relevant context that fits into the very real facts laid out by Ross for what has to be 10 hours at this point in two separate FAQs.
The current discussion boils down to those two things going in circles 90% of the time, the other 10% saying youtube bad so whatever this is bad.

>>713474294
The creation of Israel is derived directly from the worst aspects of European colonialism and fascistic violence studied clinically by upper class Jews living in Europe and the US and supported by those imperialist factions seeking to extend control of the region beyond the collapsing cycle of power. Amusingly enough, Israel is the absolute template for everything that dumb reactionary pieces of shit want, thus why so much tension flares out being antisemitism and philosemitism on the right. You can see it mirrored in the neoliberal concept of Israel being a model liberal democracy integrated into the global economy...despite being an ethnosupremacist apartheid state founded on genocide and land theft that is still actively engaged in that heinous process live in 4K while casually bombing multiple neighbors and supporting enough radical militias to seize Syria.

>>713463791
nigger

>>713474960
It's not raw if it's bread.

>>713462550
>apologizing to maldavius figtree
kekklemao

I just want gaming to be like how it was 20 years ago, where I know that out of the blue I can load up a game years after the developers went bust and have the means to play either locally with friends or set up a private server. Why do people continue to make out this is impossible WHEN IT WAS STANDARD 20 FUCKING YEARS AGO?!

A reminder that vote with your wallet is a meme since people who do pay can have infinite votes while you as someone who chooses not to pay only has 1 vote. How can anyone, ANYONE look at the current game's industry and think it is just and correct?

I genuinely wonder sometimes how many people here actually play games

Why do gamers long for permanent corporate control over the medium they claim to love?

>>713473105
Good morning saar!

>>713474773
>>713474827
Faggot simps seething
Your beloved hairy fucks will be never video games and you will never be women

looks like thise companies were right and gamers really are retarded niggercattle

>>713475229
>eats raw uncooked bread
>thinks he's safe
oh nonononono

>>713475394
20% maybe, more depending on your definition of vidya

>>713475405
SKG so thoroughly blown out that the discord shills are calling people Indians. How pathetic.

>>713475480
Movie and animation ain't much better. The only industry that seems to have somewhat smart consumers is music which made the industry give up on the idea of album sales and only focus on singles.

>>713467368
You're not European

>>713475093
But anon, the poos aren't getting paid to be civil human beings. They're getting paid to disrupt these threads as much as possible.

>Consumers advocating for consumer protection bad
>Companies advocating for continuous IP laws good
Make up your minds.

>>713475659
>Lose Albumkino for singleslop
Hopefully gamers never sink to the level of musicmonkeys....

>>713474151
34A

>>713475413
seethe

The reason the initiative failed is its a problem that doesn't exist in reality. It never happened (and won't happen) to any game that mattered.
All non-hypothetical examples always include garbage ubislop games like the crew or hyenas.
If you have actually paid money for that garbage the only thing you're entitled to is a rope.
Get better taste shit eater.

>>713475683
thank God

>you will own nothing and you will be happy

I love the argument of
>Ross is ugly and shouldn't have been the face of the movement
When time and time again he said he didn't want to be it, he wanted to get the ball rolling because no one else was and wanted someone else to take it. No one did so he was forced to continue being the face. Sad.

/v/ supports Stop Killing Games.
GAMER RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS

>>713463686

I knew it would fail but I'm not gonna give them shit for giving it a shot and trying to do something about it. Better than most of the lazy fuckers here at least.

>>713476136
PoE
Warframe
Helldiver 2
Elite Dangerous
WH40kDarktide
War Thunder
Why does having a few bad eggs in the pile suddenly make you decide they all need to get thrown out?

>>713474597
Ah, what's the phrase I should say to you right now?
Oh yes: Cope.

>>713460961 (OP)

>>713476494
Ross should've included the NA on signing a petition even it couldn't reach Congress, it would at least paint a picture how much support he has in the continent that has the biggest consumption of video games.

>>713462369
you communistfags really believe that profit = being evil, eh?

>>713476573
Anon is going to turn around and say
>Those games are shit
Because that's always the response. It doesn't matter if people bought and enjoy those games, he doesn't like them so they deserve to die.

>>713476573
All those games are perfectly playable, are you retarded?
You know why they are still playable? Because people still play them, so the devs keep them alive.

>>713476136
>tranimecel

>>713476573
Those all work.

>Don't play my PS2 games for a few years
>Can no longer boot them up
Oh well, my fault for not constantly playing them I guess.
What a fucking stupid argument, do you people never go back to play a game you haven't played in a while or are you endlessly consooming new product?

>>713476713
Okay, so what happens in the future? You expect the devs to keep the servers alive forever?
These are the ones being protected by the movement, not just ubislop.

>>713476578
Make sure to drink lots of water and stay in the shade.

>>713476713
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?

>>713462214
>Gamblerslop
Kek

Call me a faggot but as much as I feel bad for Moldman and pity him, gaymers are actual cattle. they deserve this. They aren't like bookfags or moviefags who understand the importance of preserving even if it's shit.

>>713476619
I know you are so used to Russians and the Chinese being in charge of your government that you don't really understand it. But it is normally seen as a bad thing to have people from outside the region make up your laws.

>>713476889
Do get shot, please.

>>713473812
Prove it

>>713475480
Well gaming is a hobby for failed unaccomplished men.

>>713476968
The NA petition is not about lawfare, it would just paint a picture for the EU to see as well.

>>713450552
>>713460961 (OP)
TWO (2) threads died for this fucking nobody?

>>713476087
Cope homo

>>713476871
Exactly my point.
The movement can not point to an actual real problem so they have to cook up hypotheticals about how a popular game will suddenly be shut down and millions of gamers won't be able to play it anymore.
In practice games that were actually shut down were games noone gave a shit about. That's why they were shut down.
Its a made up problem.

>>713461486
Lol no? Unless you think the United States in the 20s and 30s wasn't capitalist.

>>713476664
The profit motive is behind every problem in the world today lol
Profit is why we poisoned the environment
Profit is why we removed all nutrition from food
Profit is why we work too much to live (or are born so rich as to never need to work at all)
Profit is why the war machine exists and demands endless blood sacrifices
Profit is why propagandists lie as a career
Profit is why thugs join a policing force and terrorize the people

>>713477130
Ban evasion is against the rules schizo.

>>713461837
>private ownership of purchased goods is communism
herp a derp

Sharty zoomers get another W

>>713461917
Yes it has and the stock market crash was the result

>>713475694
true, and when their retarded arguments fall flat they start spamming cp to try to get the threads nuked instead, it already happened in the past

>>713464885
4channers are just contrarians

>>713477137
Do you have no concept of people wanting to own something and use it as they please? Sure, the majority of people don't give a shit, but if I own something, I want a guarantee I can come back to use it in a private manner in however I please.
I own a lot of classic games, I don't play them all the time, should those shrivel and die because I am not playing them every single day?

>>713477137
It's not a hypothetical to say servers are not going to stay up forever, it's a fact. What's popular now could be abandoned tomorrow, so your magical wave of the hand that it will never die is idiotic, and the equivalent of saying "oh, well when it dies I'll stop caring as well and move on to new thing."
Not everyone is going to feel that way though, some people will still want to play it, even if it's decades old at that point.

>>713462669
Giga retard

>Have a medium that allows for information to be infinitely replicated, to be theoretically infinitely stored and to be forever safe
>More information is dying at a faster rate
I weep for the technological generation. How in the everloving fuck do we have physical mediums that last longer than digital ones? Why does no one give a shit about data anymore?

>>713472074
If anything it was pirate's grift since the initiative succeeding would have fucked him over financially due to the way his game works

>>713477496
Cocksucking brownie
You will never be white.

>>713477137
But it's not a made up problem, it's a real problem and can happen to any game

Even single player games aren't safe from this

>>713472074
Ad revenue
When something is free
You are the product.

A pity, but honestly it was over the moment the media attention died. Still, kudos to all anons and people who actually signed it.

>>713475093
>when the opposing side has no idea what is actually being asked
Is that why you have to ignore what they're saying to make up strawmen about keeping servers alive forever?
Hell no one ever addresses the fact that it would have resulted in dates being added to games like they're fucking bread because the initiative stupidly gave an ultimatum of dates or server tools.

>>713477627
Retard

>>713477547
You do bring an interesting point that the movement prob failed because it targeted the race which is okay with jews and brownies stealing everything from them.

>>713477718
I couldn't do much as an Australian other than talking about it and supporting euro-bros. It's very telling that north Europe was able to reach thresholds but not southern Europe.

>>713477137
>hypotheticals
When you have to lie and pretend reality isn't real as your main argument, maybe you are just a retarded shill who is so full of shit that I can smell it all the way from the Indian shithole you are posting from.

>>713477547
stop projecting apu.

>>713477627
Moron

>this whole thread

>>713477547
And you will never be anything more than a pajeet.

>>713477731
>when the opposing side has no idea what is actually being asked
I like that you quoted this and then proceeded to do exactly what you where trying to argue you don't do.
It seems reeeeeal legit this way. Then agian, you could just be American and legitimately just be a brainwashed cuck.

>>713477731
They don't need a date, they can run the game as long as they please, the only thing they HAVE to do is give players a way to keep playing the game when they do decide to cut support for it themselves.
They do not need to give out the IP.
They do not need to give out the source code.
They give players the ability to create their own servers locally for mp, or simply patch over the need to connect to anything for sp.
This is Day 1 shit.

>I have the source code and IP to every source game because I can locally host my own servers

>>713477421
That's a niche view not many people share.
>>713477479
Popular games are playable, and will remain playable while they are popular. Once they die and only 5 autists who can't move on want to play them dev/publisher will rightfully pull the plug on the servers and noone will give a shit.
>>713477580
>real problem
Oh no I wish so badly I can play The Crew right now.

>>713477539
Youtube perfectly exemplifies why it's happening. If your video has a copyrighted song or says niggerfaggot, some automated system will instantly detect it and delete the video.

>>713478216
>Bootlicker can't argue so he exaggerates
Every time, bend over cuck

>>713478216
>and noone will give a shit.
(You) won't give a shit, and that's your entire argument.

>>713478216
>That's a niche view not many people share.
Then people are fucking retarded, I want to be able to play my older games whenever the FUCK I please and no one should be able to tell me otherwise.

>>713478216
>I don't like game personally so it's okay if it gets destroyed
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

>>713478274
>Video uploaded 15 years ago has the word faggot and nigger in it
>Gets taken down by some AI bot 10+ plus later

>>713476974
You're more likely to die from a heat stroke.

>>713477421
You can't own a service.

>>713478371
It actually happened to me a few months ago on a 12 year old video, but I got it reversed saying it was art lol

>>713478490
The service is the centralized server, the game itself is not the service.

>>713473803
Hitler supported the idea of a jewish state

seeing /v/ just straight up defend corpos rights to fuck you over sure is a change from its gamergate days huh

>>713478708
woke hitler before gta 6

>>713472261
SEE THIS GRIFTER BALDING FAGGOT
HE WAS GOING TO BE OUR MESSIAH AND DELIVER US FROM EVIL
HE IS THE JESUS CHRIST OF VIDEOGAMES
YOU ARE SATANIC SONS OF BITCHES ARE CELEBRATING THE DEATH OF AN IDEA
HOW DARE YOU?
ARE YOU NOT MEN?
THE EVIL CORPORATIONS HAVE BEATEN THE LITTLE MAN ONCE MORE OH THE HUMANITY

Listen here cock sleeve, you are too much of a fucking faggot whose brain matter has possibly been replaced by Ross Jizz to understand your little gay blub never so much had a foothold. Ross is a fucking pseud and an imbecile at that and we have told you time and again this was never going to work but you tell us to shut while you continue to suck him off.
Nothing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is stopping this balding piece of shit from going back to the drawing board and starting this again from scratch but that requires grit and character something youtube grifters lack.
Pirate Nation was right, don't make devs your enemies and this might have a chance, start by battling the stupid fucking contracts the industry got and maybe there could be people maintaining software for more than 2 years, I mean we are talking about conditions where devs are not hired for more than a semester and you are expecting to be able to play games for 1/8th of the lifespan of the average person here.

Change the focus and do your homework.

>>713472521
Most steam games aren't like that

>>713465210
>personal and private property are totally different under communism
Sure, until the party comes to your village to fetch the year's quota of scrap metal.

>>713478804
fuck goonergate censorshitter nazis

>>713478904
Oh no, corruption can happen under communism, good thing that never happens under capitalism...what was this thread about again?

>>713478365
Its more like "I don't like this game personally so I don't care if it gets shut down."
So far I haven't had a desire to replay a game that wasn't playable because servers were down, and I own 500++ games on Steam.
So you lads are fighting a war people don't give a shit about.

>>713478889
I'm disregarding your post because you seem to imply that you were able to listen to Pirate Nation speak for longer than three minutes without killing yourself.

>>713479123
Which is sad in of itself innit, that people don't give a shit about stuff they have purchased and have no way to restore.

>>713479125
proof SKG like GG was merely a harassment campaign to harass developers

>>713479225
That's just how it is, I'm afraid.

>>713478804
Gamergate accomplished nothing and only drove moot away from the site.
Kotaku died 10 times over and gg had nothing to do with it, not a single time.
In fact it killed chan culture through a division over a nothing burger from which the site never recovered and it was way more cancerous than chanology.

Furthermore, gaming media never got any better since GG, most anti-GG sites are still kicking.
Meanwhile:
Allgamesbeta went down
GTTV went down
Gamepro, Nintendo Power, Pc accelerator.
So many good publications went down.
GG changed nothing and what little it changed was counter productive.
That said that law and order episode was almost worth it.

Gamergate is quite the analogy, nothing but noise coming from cum loving retards like you and their adoration for lolcows
GG is a cautionary tale.

>>713479232
Harass shitty devs and greedy jews

>>713478003
See what I mean, you don't even know the first thing about the initiative you're supporting which is why you can't even argue in it's favor.
As for being "brainwashed" you're saying that as someone who can't simply refuse to buy a game.

>>713478135
>They don't need a date, they can run the game as long as they please,
Again, no. This was even in the FAQ that if they have to shut down a game they tell the player the exact date before purchasing the game either on the box or online. It's one of the main arguments against this initiative.
>They do not need to give out the IP.
>They do not need to give out the source code.
No one said any of this other than you and your supporters in an attempt to avoid the actual issues people had with it after reading it. Even now you can't just address the point people are actually giving you and that's because none of you have actually read it yourself.

>>713478551
Yeah it is.

Do people not respect digital products because they aren't physical, despite having the perfect opportunity to keep said product forever with little to no risk with regards to physical wear and tear?

>>713479640
But Ross says he wants them to end it whenever they choose. Look, he says it right here. What you are referring to are subscriptions, which already have a set date and time that they will stop letting you access the server, something that has been around a very long time.

>>713479423
Gamergate was a mask-off moment for gaming media, who declared themselves antagonistic towards their intended audiences. They could never recover since then, slowly circling the drain in endless cycle of downsizing.
There has not been a more significant and influential event in gaming journo industry.

>>713479640
And here, it's a FAQ that they need to give up the IP

>>713474510
>>>/vt/ranny

>>713479640
He addresses the source code issue as well.
"Internal code", fine, I used wrong phrasing

>>713479763
digital slop is worthless

>>713478889
No devs give a single shit about always online server-bound games. None.

>>713479903
>But Ross says he wants them to end it whenever they choose.
And what do you think they're going to choose? do you think they're going to give out their server tools or do you think they're going to go with the option that allows them to exploit FOMO more than they already are?
>What you are referring to are subscriptions
No? Absolutely no one is talking about subscriptions, this whole thing is about games with DRM that can be shut down like The Crew, the game that sparked this whole thing.
Also subs don't have a set time and date in the way we're talking about anyway. Just because it expires doesn't mean it ceases to be, you just have to renew your sub.

You really have no idea what you're talking about and these >>713480116 >>713480302 just cement that fact you're using an FAQ to show that your opposition supposedly asked these questions when that's not what an FAQ is.

>>713478889
How is something that makes no money a grift?

Lots of Americans here itching for some Jewish cum. Come here, goyim, my balls need some sucking

>>713480587
Not that anon but it's a buzzword for someone who has a strong stance on something even remotely political online.

>>713462101
capitalism means exploiting labour for capital gains, has nothing to do with ownership.

>>713480572
FOMO implies they will still be giving players something, hell when they turn off the server everything you bought would still be attached to your account and could go away at any time, you simply aren't connecting to a large server in order to keep playing.

And what is the problem with those? You think asking devs to let people keep playing is going to break the bank?

>>713480770
>>713480587
No, it means this is a nobody working a gig instead of a job.
Grifter means he asks for money which he does, he has a paetron.
He is making money out of the ad revenue from his videos.

>for someone who has a strong stance on something even remotely political online.
Can you stop sucking him off for a second? Holy shit, I am so sad the kool aid cultists did not found you first.

>>713480116
This could all be ended by discarding the foolish capitalist illusions of intellectual property, copyright, trade marks, etc.
Socialist labor rights would also mean an end to crunch time abuses and shareholder interference in creative processes

A true video game culture can only exist in a communist state

>>713460961 (OP)
FUCK YOU ALL FUCKING ECELEB SHITHEADS

>>713480753
I'm white and American so I shall do it. Join me, fellow Americans.