How come there are no more human race games?
>a gambling game about gambling
cuck
>>714258135 (OP)How would you make a human race game?
>>714258135 (OP)you mean the olympics? last time they got a game things didn't go too well
>>714258135 (OP)Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games exists. I mean it's mostly furries but Mario, Luigi, Peach, Daisy, Wario and Waluigi are technically human.
>Decide I want to use the one free roll I get and play through that characters story as my first time
>Get an absolutely insane science bitch
>She does experiments on me and briefly turned me into a horse girl in VR
>Has no ambitions outside of studying her own body and using me as her test subject
This game... Might be kino.
>>714258135 (OP)never give up, umamusume-chans
Does energy have an impact on the races or can I just go nuts with training before a race?
>>714260093It only matters for event races(the ones the countdown is for). If you race outside of that for fans or whatever else then it eats a chunk of your energy.
>>714258135 (OP)This horse girl fad is so funny to me, like you, track is a real thing that people do but this is little girls in frilly dresses running around a ring at mach speed
>Go to gym
>Imagine that Iโm exercising to better help my umas
>feel happy
Itโs the little things
how the fuck do I get the claw machine events
and how the fuck do I not fuck it up
>>714261829Do Recreation
>how do I not fuck it upDo your best, it's a claw machine after all
>>714261940so just waste turns spamming recreation hoping it'll turn up? my trainee's mood stays great virtual 95% of the time I've been playing
>>714262040The one thing to remember if your doing missions is that your career runs don't need to be successful, just completed, a failed career is still a completed one.
She got obliterated in the Uma semifinals, but at least I managed to finally clear all of her objectives
I wish I had better cards to slap on her, I clearly lacked good skills and the trainings were too much all over the place
So far I can't be bothered to try raising any other umas expect Tachyon, Golshi and Haru
>>714263540>Can't be bothered to try raising any other umas>Lists HaruFunny
What stats am I supposed to focus with Special Week, she keeps jobbing after the Summer Camp event and it's making me sad :(
>>714258135 (OP)Reminder that Rice Shower fell down during the race he wasn't supposed to take and had to be euthanased
>>714265045That's just shit luck.
Meanwhile Silence Suzuka's retarded jockey pushed him too hard when he was already miles ahead of everybody and his leg broke.
I love my wife McQueen very much!
First playthrough rn, no idea wtf is going on, rolled science bitch and I've somehow won all my races and trained the fuck out of speed and staminia.
I'm at the summer event rn and idk what to do, I've got half energy because this dumb bitch fucking tripped while training despite it only being a 1% chance of injury.
I ended up carrying her home which was cute.
I never play GACHA GAMES but this shit is suprisingly good and awakening a deep primal desire to scream at horses to win while feeling a deep shame when they lose.
Also some of the horse names make me laugh
>McQueen
KACHOW
>Vodka
>>714265862>Be me>Hear about cool new horse racing game>Not really into these types of games but hear it's really good.>Boot it up, go through the tutorial. Seems interesting.>Roll a random character.>It's Tacyon.>She seems cool so I decide to begin my first career playthrough as her.>Screen fades to black.>"Hey, you... You're finally awake."God fucking damn it Todd.
>>714265045>>714265546Horse racing is kinda grim. We should retire all race horses and let the virtual ones replace them. Or at least switch to racing with an animal that doesn't need to be killed for a broken leg.
I booted up this game completely uninterested in it or the cute anime girl aesthetic and ended up on my fucking knees screaming at my computer for my horse girl to win during career mode.
>>714266308i'm a gooner degenerate and i'm scared that if i get a taste of gacha game i'll become a hopeless addict, thanks for the cautionary tale
which character is best for trying to get crane game event to happen?
>>714266363I haven't spent a single dime on this game, it's a roguelite and I don't really see any need to spend money unless you're a whale or a degenerate who wants to jerk off to big tits mcgee.
You already get the best characters when you boot up the game (autistic horse girl and loser horse girl)
>Do Ura finale
>takes 1 hour to do
Is it supposed to take this long?
>>714258360They're just filled with niggers now
>>714266480Which one is gold ship
>>714266480Enjoy the game while you can, anon. Sooner or later you will succumb to the numberGOD and start craving for bigger number.
I still can't get 5 supports in training.
>get a decent first run on my new McQueen
>1 star guts spark
God fucking damn it I hate this system.
I really appreciate that one anon's post saying that they're just girls inhabited by horse spirits from another dimension, all of them being based on dude horses never sat right with me before this until I read that
>>714267813Her first goal gives you 25 days to complete giving you plenty of days for a potential trigger for the claw machine event using recreation.
>>714267921wait so you can just spam recreation for those 25 turns for it to happen?
>>714268052Yep, the thing to remember is that whenever a mission says "Complete a career" it doesn't include successfully. A failed career run is still a completed career run.
>>714268113well then
sorry Urara
>>714268184Just remember to make it up to her and get her that Arima win later.
>>714268052i think it only appears on the second year(classic year) so start spamming dates at that point
Why does Super Creek sounds and acts like she'd suck you for free?
considering buying the starter pack because I have money and I need more monies
>>714269027why do you even need more monies? i have more than i need so far just by playing.
Anyone has a guide about how to read the scoreboard at the end of the races? I want to know what the letters and numbers in the left even mean.
>>714269150No, I'll not play it
How do I get my horse bitches in their cool outfits and not the gooner outfit that they all get stuck with for some reason
>>714269150BAKUSHIN BAKUSHIN BAKUSHIN
>>714269151The numbers on the left are your gate number. The right(I assume you meant) is distance between each racer
>Number (e.g. 2, 3, 4) = Lengths between each runner>NK = neck which means it's insanely closeThere's one other I saw when running Bakushin that I don't remember but it basically means you were uncontested and beyond 9 lengths apart.
But it's essentially the distance between each racer like how in racing games you have +0:01.41 and such
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>>714267759There's some pure female ones if that makes your jack off sessions feel better. Like the circled ones in pic related.
>>714269518I see, thank you. So one lengths is 2.4 meters.
>>714269360gotta roll for dupes and level up their stars
3 stars automatically get their signature clothes though
>>714267759If their ear ornament is on the left ear, their namesake is a mare i.e. Daiwa Scarlet.
>>714269460wtf
isn't uma musume or whatever about cute horse girls running? didn't know it could get this intense wtf are these expressions
context?
and is it always like this?
>>714269767>>714269546huh I never noticed that
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>>714258135 (OP)The Squint Game gook demanded it
>>714269920Horse racing is serious business
Go watch the anime
TIL that Gold Ship is McQueen's son
What's that one uma song with the 2 chibis in t shirts dancing in the left and right corner
>>714265862>>714265985This isn't a reference in Japanese by the way.
>>714270131looking forward to the fincher sequel
>>714269920First season was very moe and cute, it's gotten progressively more serious and the spinoffs(Movie, Specials and Cinderella Grey) have gone even further with that level of intensity. First Season is really good for world building with all the subtleties you can notice like how the kanji for Uma has two legs instead of four and the like. Things that show they put a lot of effort into making the world. That and the sound design is top notch during the races. But if you want intensity like Road to the Top, Beginning of a New Era and Cinderella Grey are what you're looking for.
So what's up with Sakura and Haru's eyes? Any factoids about that?
>>714269920>contextJungle Pocket got BTFO by Tachyon. Then Tachyon retired. That made JP really butthurt.
>>714270415unfathomably based
>>714269920Season 1: Cute moeblobs doing cute running and idol activities.
Season 2: What if we did less idol and more sport?
ONA (Road to the Top): What if we removed idol stuff completely?
Movie (Beginning of a New Era): FUCK IT WE BALL, FUCK IT WE BALL
Cinderella Gray <---- You are now here
>>714269518>NK = neck which means it's insanely closeSo does that mean NS is the same as NK except is called nose?
>>714270574Ah yes, that'd be Nose which is even closer than Neck
>>714269920>>714270415>>714270398>>714270139bro what the fuck, this is intense
shit's more brutal than sports shounen with guys wtf
damn, is it actually good?
Also, I want to be a breeding stud for... Tachyon, was it? Now that she's retired
she's probably got a shitton of money and looking for a... sugar sonny? sugar baby? fuck, that sounds cringe
but yeah, I'd be a breeding stud for that crazy bitch
>>714269546i regret not picking taiki shuttle horsfrens...
>>714270415>Jungle Pocket got BTFO by Tachyon. Then Tachyon retired. That made JP really butthurt.I'm assuming that happen IRL?
>>714270515do people not like the idolshit part? the way you put it makes it sound like they regret that, I've only watched cinderella but that one doesn't have a lot of those either. even after playing the game it still feels out of place.
waaaaaaait what lmao
are these horse girls based on actual horses? don't you need licenses for that?
that's fucking wild, man
is the intense anime adaptation good? gacha anime normally suck ass
>>714270779Every race you see in the anime happens nearly 1:1 as it did in real life with a few liberties like name changes for mob horses.
>>714269150AAAAAIIIIEEEEE MY HAND IS SWAPPING TOWARDS JUKEBOX
>>714269518>There's one other I saw when running Bakushin that I don't remember but it basically means you were uncontested and beyond 9 lengths apart.Oh, so that's what distance (DST) means.
>>714270640There's also HD which is head.
So the measurements are in order
PT = Photo Finish(So close you'd need a picture to work it out exactly
NS = Nose - the distance of a nose
HD = Head - the distance of a head
NK = Neck - not actually the distance of a neck but the end of the winner's neck being approximately in line with the start of the loser's neck
Lengths - Lengths of the horses between the racers the bigger the better
(The one I'm forgetting) - So far apart that lengths isn't even worth thinking about, an uncontested victory.
>>714270708She's more interested in Guinea pigs.
>>714270995Ah yeah, that's the one.
>>714270796Can't say for everyone, and I love my cute girls and all, but the idolshit is my least favorite part of the whole franchise. Horse racing simulator sounds fun, but but idol horse girl raising simulator sounds absolutely retarded.
>>714270408it's horse girl magic don't question it.
>>714270909Cygames got permission to use the names of real horses from the owners.
With the stipulation that we don't lewd them cause that would be weird. For such a huge gacha game, the genre that generates the most lewd content, has a extremely small amount of it. Like if the owners said "yeah you can make sexy horse content" then it could surpass Blue Archive in doujins.
>>714271046wtf instant wife material holy fuck
what an entertaining, unique character
>>714271185Tachyon is a molester.
>>714271046>>714270415damn the production went up by a lot. I guess this thing prints money, as its nowhere near as the season 1 I saw.
>>714271319That's because the webm is from a movie. Though yeah, the production value did go up a lot since SS1.
>>714271319No, that's the difference between seasonal anime and full movie production. Movies always get better animation than the seasonals.
>>714271159that's some pussy shit. Just... make the lewd content? fuck is jappy gon' do? cry?
there's doujins with literal horses, ain't no problem at all if it's a horse girl
shit, they got that shit like... you know that fucking doujin about... I think women getting pregnant by LITERAL bulls, and then men buying the... half-human calfs and eating them
you know, compared to NSFL shit like that, or anything, really, horsegirls are tame
fucking hell, arknights has horse girls
blue archive has them
just because they're based on a horse doesn't make it weird
that's like being weirded out about lewding that gacha about ship girls
>>714270408Haru probably references her name and fact she had hello kitty stickers on her gear. But they aren't the only horses. Look at local occultist with funny name.
>>714271441the westerners don't give a fuck, JP artists aren't doing lewds because japanese are extremely rule abiding
>>714271441I read a post here before saying that network and cybersecurity there used to be nonexistent because they all collectively think that hacking someone else would be rude
>>714271521absolute pussy shit
well... I guess the gacha IS a literal yakuza IP, so....actually yeah, I'd be careful, too, man
>>714269082i keep spending it all on leveling up my support cards and in the daily shop
I keep getting bodied in the URA semifinals.
>>714271441>muh pp feel so good when im gooningWhat a fucking retarded coomer
Tried to complete a run with Goldship, it was a lots of fun but long runners are hard.
Her schizo ramblings were quite hilarious, why does she keep spacing out and ending up in horse eden?
The amount of times she spoke to the horse goddess is ridiculous.
>>714271674actually, that's probably because japs UNIRONICALLY can't use PCs
they're just learning to use PCs because of vtumors and apex
they still fucking use fax machines - SHIT I NEVER EVEN REALLY KNEW WHAT THE FUCK A FAX MACHINE WAS
and they install win 10 using dozens of floppy disks
fucking mental
shit, they were using flip phones right up until like mid-2010s
>>714271441> fuck is jappy gon' doWhat part of "Cygames got permission to use the names of real horses from the owners(likeness as well since aspects of their racewear fits what the horses wear as well to a degree). Those people if unhappy can just revoke their permission if they aren't happy.
Meaning entire characters can just be up and removed from the game. This includes story related characters.
As long as not to much noise is made it still gets made but it's not going to be the global phenomenon it could truly be.
>>714271152They just sing a song after winning, that's it that's all the idol shit in there.
Stop trying to get me to fuck horse pussy
>>714271159I kinda like that desu. This kind of game always have a reputation that you're in it because you're a cumbrain but this time you legally are not one because its not allowed so I don't need to hide it from my Steam library.
>>714271851Double jet in the game when?
>jannies auto-saged last night's thread
they fear hors
>>714272098people that use the words "goon", "gooner", "cumbrain" are always the biggest retards.
>>714272252those fucking whores
>>714272278Pretend I said good old fashioned "pervert" then, point still stands
>>714270408read this idiot
it is against terms of service to do erotic doujin of ume musume
>>714272183A little under a year if we follow JP release schedules and don't have any accelerations. She's a 1 Star by the way so saving up isn't really required.
>>714270909It's not really gacha anime in a way you probably think. Umamusume was multimedia project from beginning and the game was released when it already had two seasons out.
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Yo I've never really played a gacha game before how rare is it to get a three star character?
This bitch had a fancy cutscene and shit, I had a load of carrots after failing my first career mode and decided to try to pull some new characters, got her on my first try.
>>714272098"cute girls doing cute things" still gives people the ick even if it's 100% non-sexualized
>Decide to do King Halo's career
>She gets fucking bodied hard despite me having won the ura finals several times with other umas already
Maybe her mom is right about her...
>>714272447I think you have better chances of getting 3 Star umas than you do getting SSR cards in my experience.
>Got the tomboy horse
WE ARE SO BACK
>>714272513stfu you stupid cuck
>>714272463not as much in the 2020s now that anime is mainstream
>>714272647anime isn't mainstream, shit like JJK and solo leveling is mainstream
moeshit will still out you as a creep
>>714271851I was doing a random run with Haru trying to get the 5 supports in one training session mission and somehow still won the URA. I had the most shit build ever. I ended with C+ Speed, B Stamina, B power, and C+ guts.
I really dont like gacha but the horses are so cute
>>714272252Nintendo jeets mad their shitty threads are buried by some many games and gachas
>>714272732idk dawg people liked bocchi and romcoms like that gyaru show, and that's not bringing in vtumors into the mix yet
>>714272916She's so innocent. We need to protect her smile at all costs.
>>714272571Same rates.
However it's like BA where "rate up" is a lie cause with how its calculated.
I got 2 SSRs trainees in a single 10 and they were both Rudolf on the T.O Opera banner.
>>714272775Haru is borderline a free URA win, nearly on par with BAKUSHIN. Dirt compatibility fucks over a lot of the other named horses and considering she's a sprint horse you can just dump speed on her.
>>714272872don't forget the schizos that keep shilling their literal who 2 hour games like Slay the Princess and Undertale Yellow.
>human women still haven't gotten extinct
Are umamusume a recent species? Otherwise it makes no sense
>>714273297there are too few of them
>>714272916>they actually shoot horses instead of treating them and even say its more 'humane'
>>714273297The thing is when you fuck one of them you can only produce a female umasusume.
So you literally have to fuck a human woman or else the species would've died out. Also they were probably discriminated against or something in the past idk dude they're fucking horses and the lore is kinda weirdly deep.
>>714272732manga outsold murican comics in the US and you still say "anime isn't mainstream"
>game has impossible objective
>Get the claw machine event to show up
>The moment the tip of the claw touches the plushie it goes flying off to the side
Fuck this stupid RNG game
>>714273614manga sales in the west are basically carried entirely by a few normiecore series
AOT, tokyo ghoul, demon slayer, chainsaw man, jujutsu kaisen, etc
>>714273565>lore is kinda weirdly deep.where is the lore? in the anime? manga? in the game story?
>>714273297>>714273565Correction, Uma's can only have children with human men, obviously, and their children can either be human males or Uma females.
>>714273821>impossibleroru rumao
>>714273614Do burgerland even have comics that aren't capeshit? At least you have variety with mangas.
>>714274148I like how the world knows you're her bitch with the papers reporting on you being her literal labrat
>>714273821The 5 friends in training is impossible-er
>>714258360kek i remember this one
>>714273905https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ucoR1eN1TSMSiXS-GPgTU_wOeJUUbHy0o5xFBFIQYG8/edit?tab=t.0
>>714274392just get lucky haha.....
>>714271441If its twitter no one gives a fuck what uma porn you post, now if you post it on pixiv its a different story.
>>714274148why are horses so thirsty?
>>714273485see this idiot
>>714272436listen to the rules
>only campaigns i've finished are Sakura Bakushin O and Haru Urara
this game is hard when you have to raise more than one stat
>>714274556stop posting this, you're not funny
Anyone rolling for the robot in an hour? She cute
>>714274512I thought there were not horse boys
what's this about speed urara? do I go full speed instead of power? put her in front?
>>714274804so pretend she's a model class rep then, thanks
>>714262040Feels like there's a higher chance of triggering the arcade event if you do it early in the year between January and March.
This Trainer San fella we play as sounds like a bad man
>>714271441>>714274463lmao wasn't there a chad euro artist who said just that to the soiboy yakuza uma musume guys crying about it on pixiv?
>>714274558give me some tips to win with both please.
>>714258135 (OP)I've only been doing career with Bakushin and Maruzensky, decided today to try Daiwa Scarlet and gave both as parents, she decimated the competition and got her main skill to level 5 by the end, the URA FINALE finals werent even a competition, but at the start she kept fucking up training at 12% fail chance and even went to terrible mood, so in the end i was off of the max fans rank by like, 8k fans.
>>714275192The entirety of Bakushin's career is us gaslighting her to run sprints
>>714275378She clearly ran a 3600m race.
>Win race against Teio
>See her sad face in the background while my uma waves to the crowd
>Feel sad instead of happy
>>714262040You consume 25 TP every time you start a new career but remember that you have a lot of free TP items to use (just click the + symbol).
Yeah you can make a dedicated career just to get the claw machine and "5 supporters helping training" special missions.
>>714258135 (OP)Doesn't seem like a particularly fun gaming concept. Speaking of which, ever tried QWOP?
>>714275472The sad faces they put when losing always make me as if i really failed them.
>>714275642>We have purposely trained her wrong, as a joke
>>714271046And docile househusbands.
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>Arrangement of Jingle Bells playing in the background
>What day is it?
>It's "the holiday season"
>Voice line says Merry Christmas
Fuck off.
>>714275231>take 6 speed support cards. R cards are fine. make sure you level them up before you start the career>train speed 85% of the time>train wit when speed has a chance of failure>rest/recreation as needed>only train one of the other 3 stats if you're early in your career AND at least 4 of your supports showed up for that class so you can get a head-start on boosting their friendship>take skills only when they have a 30% discountthats pretty much it.
>>714275876that is cultural appropriation
>>714275472What's your time?
>>714274639Me. I have no idea what to expect though, I just like robot girls.
>Install game
>Read that rerolling is necessary to do anything
>Do a dozen rerolls or so
>Notice how shit the odds are of actually getting even one of the cards I need
>Realize how bad it'll be in the future when I don't have endless rerolls to force things to go my way
>Uninstall game
>>714275876And if there was any doubt.
>>714258135 (OP)It got boring after it became dominated by negroes. Horsegirl races are just simply better.
>>714276057There's never any doubt that trannylators can't be replaced fast enough.
>>714275729https://files.catbox.moe/gl2chu.webm
GOT IT, wish me luck bros
Can I get more than one claw machine event per career if I fuck this up?
>>714270515Pretty derby was a original anime.
But cinderella grey is actual high rated competitive sport manga running on Weekly Young Jump (kingdom, real, golden kamui, The Days of Diamond, Oshi no Ko, Dogsred)
Hopefully it will be uploaded on mangaplus.
>>714258135 (OP)All I can think of when I see these horse girls is that they must piss really hard.
>>714274445thats a lot of info...
is Air Shakur in the game?
>>714270796It's tacked on. Clearly trying to chase a trend. (At least back during it conception in 2018). I think there's less idolshit in the later series because idol-ing has become yesterday's trend.
>>714276507She appears in events but I don't think you can get her yet.
>>714276507As a card, yes. As a trainee, you've got over a year to wait.
Use this for reference. It'll give you an idea
https://gametora.com/umamusume/characters
>>714276695Forgot to add, set server to JP so you can compare dates and time gaps.
>>714275231by the way i feel like its worth mentioning since some anons are retarded: for Haru do not enter any "Turf" races. only enter "dirt" races for her.
>>714276695Goddamn it, thanks.
>>714276628Don't they have like irl concerts of this over there in Japan? With the voice actors singing and dancing and everything
>>714275876which jewish nigger translated this?
>>714275231also change your strategy to "Front Runner" even if it says their aptitude for it is low.. can't believe i forgot to mention that
So what is this game? is it like monster rancher?
>>714276695>Admire Vega: 2022-02-16>Narita Top Road: 2023-08-25damn the gap between them was giant despite coming out in the same season.
>>714277194Horse Girl Racing with Monster Rancher style raising.
>>714277194Yeah its a raising game. You dont give your horse commands in the race though
>>714273821I played career ~10 times and havent seen this once. Does it only appear when picking a specific horse?
>>714277254>>714277414so you race against other player?
>>714277572It randomly pops up when you do Recreation and I've only seen it twice after 30 something careers.
>>714277419teio is so cute.
I'm trying to learn how support cards. Is this considered an average card for front runners? Like all its stats are at average parameters
>>714277572It's one of the recreation activities, so you normally wouldn't need it since you'll be either training or resting.
>>714277651There is a multiplayer thing but the main draw is career mode and that is vs CPU
>>714276070Misleading thumbnail
>>714276628As much as I don't like the Idol thing either, the fact they are all women, wear costumes, and considering the culture Japan has around horses and jockeys, them having concerts doesn't even sound farfetched in a world where horses are cute girls.
what the
no more free rolls?? I got jack shit
Bakushin missunderstood and thought i was hitting on her so she put me down quickly.
wait a minute, we don't get a daily roll on the friend or pity gacha?
>>714276948They do. But compared to the late 2000's till late 2010's, there's less and less idol group now. Probably the market had saturated and Vtubing replaced it as an aspirational goal for girls to be famous and loved.
>>714277572Recreation in last 1/3 of the run.
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>>714276695Who the fuck is this? Where's the real Orfevre?
This game is weirdly fun, but man is it time consuming. Career runs take forever, even after skipping all the stuff you've already seen.
wait is there a trick for the prize derby roulette? should i try clicking or just spe-chan run?
>>714278310You can finish a career in 30 minutes or so but that means skipping everything, races included.
>>714273297headcanon is that since they're reincarnated earth horse spirits, they can only conceive when there's an available uma soul floating around, so they're hardcapped by that
real answer is: don't think about the lore too hard
>waste my time getting the special mission tickets
>get dupes of shitty girls I already had from both
And with that I no longer care to play this
>>714276695>giving a wedding dress alt to a literal childYeah that's fucked up
>>714277939same, no free daily trainee roll
With all the fiber all these girls eat. Their shits must be legendary...
>scouts are back up
>they didn't restore the exchange points
>no compensation
I think they screwed up badly
>>714270515>>714270796>>714271152>>714276628>>714277863Reminder that each season has less than 5 mins IN TOTAL of idol stuff and it's completely overblown any time you people mention it
>>714278851I'll accept my apology carats.
>>714279090According to her release date in japan, 2 fucking years.
It's so jarring when I see her every career as a support card.
>>714279223>2 fucking yearsWell, I'll have time to save at least!
>>714277572you can get it any time doing recreation after your make debut
I normally get it first thing after.
Also, omikuji draws give more energy depending on which fortune you get.
So apparently, Mongolians and Texans use this weird little trick to get horses to comply.
>>714279272>Well, I'll have time to save at least!That's exactly how she'd react, well done anon, keep being marvelous.
>>714275814why is she so upset?
>>714278851It's very likely for them to give us free shit considering that it converted a lot of Exchange Points earlier than intended.
>>714279009I didn't mean to say it in a bad way, I don't mind the idol stuff at all. The songs are... meh but some are decent and the visual effects and choreography are neat, overall it's inoffensive at worst.
My only complaint is that they're not integrated well to justify it. The way the game fades from the result screen to the concert and back to your trainee STILL posing from 3 minutes ago is incredibly awkward, and makes it feel like everyone collectively got high on kush on dreamt up that concert up before getting back to reality.
At the end of the day I imagine most people just skip them so like you said it's not a big deal, but its still part of the game regardless so players can give their criticisms however they want.
>>714277901uh oh, horse owners gonna freak
>>714279350this but she does it to me
>>714278229They really dropped the ball with that design
I guess they didn't want her to look anything close to the original
>>714279848It took them 4 years to import another design from Bahamut after Oguri? Who's next, Monika?
>>714279848holy shit forte horse
>>714270779The story of Agnes Tachyon is pretty interesting. The horse came out of nowhere and imposed a dominant streak of four races and four victories in incredibly imposing fashion. It wasn't just against losers either, it was against the best peers of it's generation and it was absolutely devastating them. In reality Jungle Pocket wasn't a rival to it, no one thought that at the time (JP did have a rival but they aren't present in the movie). Rather, there was no trainer nor owner that really wanted to face Tachyon at all. The dynamic explored in the movie is meant to express what it felt like for other racers to be in the presence of Tachyon. An insurmountable challenge that came and vanished, leaving in it's wake only the question: If it hadn't gotten injured, could anyone else have contested it? Would it simply have taken the rest of the Triple Crown titles for itself? Can it's peers even be winners if they're only finding victory in it's absence? Jungle Pocket is the one chosen to explore this dynamic because Jungle Pocket was very close irl with Fuji Kiseki, who has a fuck ton in common with Tachyon. (thus why they were also in the movie despite being a honse of a prior generation). You could say that the story of the movie was one about the zeitgeist and mood of a short yet powerful era within Japanese horse racing. The era created by phantom champion known as Agnes Tachyon, the diligent Manhattan Cafe and the wild and untamed Jungle Pocket. A true J A M.
>>714280476bourbon fans in shambles
Love from Sakura Bakushin O
This game goes hard
I hate Taiki Shuttle so much it's unreal
>>714281521Taiki Shuttle is based. No Sprinter Wars.
Do not be deceived by TOKINO MINORU.
>>714277939they probably messed this up along the update, it explicitly mentions 15 rolls
>>714281890>date a human woman>it's actually a horseGod dammit
>4 years behind
dead version
>>714270998There's actually specific numbers for each
Nose=20cm
Head=40cm
Neck=80cm
Length=2.5m (which is larger than in real life horse racing by 0.1m for some reason)
Distance=11 lengths or more.
>>714282297we'll catch up in a few years unless global EoSes first though because of the accelerated schedule and/or the game also EoSing in Japan
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vodka love
>end of first year
>5 mood downs
>2 sick debuffs
>fail a 3% training session
This run is fucking cursed.
>>714283076you gonna abandon the career and leave her to her fate?
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>horsegirls
>it's just pointy ears and a tail
>>714283076Stand proud, anon.
You are strong.
>>714283279and horse speed
and horse strength
and horse stomachs
>>714258135 (OP)>no more human race gamesWere there ever any in the first place?
>>714283279if you honestly think "centaur girl gacha" would have lasted longer than a month before EoS, you're braindead
>>714269920I watched the latest spinoff anime and was fucking amazed then tried the original season 1 and 2, they're pretty fucking bad. Not sure if I want to finish and continue to season 3. The movie seems really good though
>>714283186>>714283316It's like having to watch my broken legged daughter attempt to be a ballerina. It's just too much.
>>714283092Mejiro Mcqueen
>>714260514Yes it's awesome
>>714283423You didn't like season 2? It's generally considered the peak. Season 3 was a little mid, the NTR spin off and the BNW spin off were both pretty good.
>>714283608>the NTR spin offkek
>>714283423I think Season 2 is like the perfect mix of that CinGray/movie coolness with the S1 cute vibe, it can switch between both very well.
That said you should watch the OVAs (Road to the Top) before the movie.
>>714283423>S2>badhow many episodes did you watch?
>>714284417Her name is Narita Top Road, NTR is the acronym used to refer to them in short-hand. Both the irl honse and the in-game honse amongst the horse community circle and the uma circle.
>>714279696>The way the game fades from the result screen to the concert and back to your trainee STILL posing from 3 minutes ago is incredibly awkward, and makes it feel like everyone collectively got high on kush on dreamt up that concert up before getting back to reality.kek
that's a good way of putting it
>>714283389There should have been a variety of types instead of one body copy pasted 100 times
>>714279696>The way the game fades from the result screen to the concert and back to your trainee STILL posing from 3 minutes ago is incredibly awkwardI remember that in a Bakushin (or was it Urara?) race after it's over they do say that they need to get ready for the winning live, so it's kinda like we fast-forward to the idol show, then we flashback to what happened right after the race ended.
>>714284885There's quite a variety of height and boobsizes, if you mean fat bullshit then nobody cares /d/freak.
>>714284542i see! that is one unfortunate name
>>714285203There is literally one body type (human)
>>714258135 (OP)girl browsers add me up on discord, tag: aiketh_
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Is this forced diversity bullshit in the Japanese version too or did they just add it for global?
>considered one of the most beautiful mares to ever live
>uma looks like this
grim
>>714285680you've been doing this for like a decade now dude
maybe its time to try a different strategy
Any tips on tackling this? It's my last objective for the free dupe ticket. Ran Oguri just now but I'm a retard and she jobbed hard getting cockblocked by generic npc horses, she managed to get the Tenno Shos later on though.
>>714279009>>714279696>You know remember the hockey x idol anime>They really thought just add idol shit to ANYTHING would workLmao
All of my Scarlet and Vodka runs are absolutely fucking cursed. Maruzensky, Urara, and Bakushin have no problems getting to URA, but Scarlet and Vodka are just plagued with low percentage training failures and mental illness.
>>714285939this shit was so bad
I installed uma musume on my phone a couple days ago but then uninstalled after a day after realizing I can't get into another gacha it's just not healthy for me but then I keep seeing clips on my feed and now I feel like I'm missing out
>>714274392>5 people on training >sweet>the journalist lady is there so it doesn't countI really really hate missions that you have no control over completing
>>714266308The horse race gambling experience.
>Before UmamusumeMan, Monster Rancher 2 sucks.
>After UmamusumeHoly shit, MR2 was Proto-Uma all along!? It's so good!
>Monster Rancher was always sovl
>>714286221I haven't gotten a crane game in ages.
>>714285812Ramonu was hotter and fucked bigger chads, so it's okay.
>>714285692you're... upset one of the hands has a glove on?
Is there a way to increase the render resolution?
>>714266480I spent money purley because I want the game to succeed. When it comes to Japanese gacha I live in fear of global servers eos.
POV: you are going to get killed by the yakuza
>>714285812She is pretty funny in the anime, I like her.
>>714271370That's Tachyon's Daughter btw.
>>714286167at least watch the anime then
>>714269460>YOU CAN'T JUST WIN AND RUN AWAYBitch it's a one and done and you're mad you lost, lmao
>>714286646Interesting.
I too fear EOS and that's why I don't spend.
>>714286646>>714286918At the very least we won't see a premature EoS with cygames as the publisher
>>714283374I got this one at 10:53 EST. It took me two hours.
I liked this game up until that point but I will admit that wore me out.
>>714273821That one was so easy though
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>>714285812there are a few uggos in this game
I've been spamming Career mode all day even with an all Speed deck but nothing, any tips for this?
>>714287302spend ~2k USD to max out the cards rng chance
>>714287302pick your luckiest horse
>>714270415>Horse girl kicks into MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE>Steps into the ground and the track crumbles beneath her heelsWhy does this keep happening and WHY IS IT ALWAYS A HYPE MOMENT
No kidding I was mad that Oguri got fucking plot armored to lose by some Speed Racer ass mechanic. The fuck?
>>714270515>What if we removed Idolshit completely?>Cinderella Gray had Cap doing the Japanese Stanky Leg until she learned how to dsnce>They indeed however, quickly left the concert road behind for the big race moments.Huh.
>>714287302just let it happen naturally (even using the all one type deck with the boost chance of appearing in favored type training it seems like most people are still seeing them getting 5 to show up in another type anyways)
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The illusion of free choice
Reading the manga to spoil anime viewers? Lame. Reading Oguri Cap's RL wikipedia article to spoil the manga readers and the anime viewers? Based.
>>714271864>"Man, I could chill on the beach forever">"...">"AAAAAAAAAAH" [Audible Nippon Neighing]The fuck is her instability? Is she okay?
Should I just always skip acupuncture event?
>>714285207It matches her storyline pretty well
>>714272084I just want Umamusume thighs to lay upon. I'm a simple man.
>>714271864>>714288184The RL horse is a schizo who acts so goofy that he got his own youtube channel, so that kinda migrated into her personality.
>>714287487Really? I was so sick of Oguri winning, she literally does it every single episode
>>714288196just pick 4th option for charming and energy
>>714288196it'll work eventually.....
>>714288367My based retard canโt possibly be this cute
>>714287302Be careful with claiming that ticket in your inbox in case you DO get it.
Because the banners went down
>>714278851 because of an accident, it'll get converted to Clover points instead, just wait for the confirmation that it's back to normal.
>>714288476Thanks anon, I'll keep that in mind.
>>714288367Post the one where she attacks the trainer with her cannon.
>never fail a single training even when the chance to fail is high
>pick Teio
>fails every time it's 10%+
Did they do this on purpose
>>714272436>NO VIOLENCE>But GoldShi gets to drop kick (You)C'mon... I just want a sprinkle of some Space Jin tier ryona and ball busting with strong horse girls. Just a crumb.
>>714287092It would be strange to release a 5 year old game only to eos it in under a year.
>>714286149I just had an SBO run where she rested, got hit with night owl, I put her in the infirmary, rested again, she got it again, and then later in the run she got it a third time. And then she ate too much and got fat so she couldn't gain speed until curing that too. And the same turn had multiple events that tried to give her speed.
>>714288367>Golshi is actually hot as hell without her dork outfitmy life has been a lie
>>714288685I'm doing an SBO run right now and she keeps going into heat and refuses to leave the bedroom.
>>714288802>Equestric violence
I like this one, Is she any good? Is she hard to get?
>>714289105She's the best character but is so rare no one has gotten one yet
>>714289105She won't be in-game for a while, but yeah she's fine. All horses are fine, it's the support cards that make them great. Good taste though.
Is there any place where I can download ALL of the chibi horses?
>>714289305what are you going to do with all of that power, vergil?
>>714288432I had a feeling turnabout was going to happen. She's a nobody who's basically until the dead last race, had no real threats. She however, isn't Takamura. She's not established god mode. Was overdue. What a lame cop-out though.
>>714289393make the yakuza mad
>>714288660They call that a final spurt.
>>714289393Begin a new era in our history
Rate my first 10 roll on the character banner
>3 star horse ticket locked behind "get three cuties in one career"
>had multiple cutie hauls before day 7
>can't grab SHIT today
I'm kind of mad
Which uma is the best spurter?
>>714289937Shuttle (cock)
>all my pity points expired
oooooooohhhhh.... THATS why you guys told me not to spend money on this game..... i get it now.....
>People playing the game and having fun
>Nobody dares make mention of PvP where the real meat and carrots are
Are people afraid? Is PvP locked? I want my Uma salt NOW
>>714290432>babby's first spark gacha
>the bald fucker is streaming Uma
What the fuck
>>714288397Aren't horses kind of autistic by default as animals?
>>714290432it was an accident and there's seemingly no compensation in sight
>>714290543it's normie shit dude
Uma means horse, but Umai means delicious. Are horses delicious?
Is free scouting a thing only during spotlight period?
>>714290743Yes it's very player friendly!
>>714290432yes it's retarded but regardless of the "error" all the banners had a 1 week expiration so rolling early is a scam
>>714290654>it was an accidentuhh which part exactly?
>>714290694it also means skilled, umas very skilled at extracting human men's semen
Goldship is such a majestic creature
>>714290694ask mongols or white women
>>714266567Not the niggers fault whites can't win
>>714290917The banners accidentally ended earlier than scheduled, and they've been restored without the exchange points people had before they went down.
>>714291096yeah its the jews' .
I spent all my carats on rolling for umas and have no support cards, did I fuck myself over?
>>714290694Sope de Uma, uma umai...
>>714290694Horse meat is pretty common, and yes, it's quite tasty
RL Golshi Factoids
>Was very cute and tame in his youth, no farm worker expected that he would become what he is right now
>Gold Shipโs mom Point Flag also went nuts after turning three years old, so this was probably passed down to him.
>Itโs said that Gold Shipโs intelligence is equal to a seven-year-old human (while most horsesโ intelligence level is roughly equal to a 3-4 year old), thus why he's a brat
>If you stand behind him, he will kick you. Thereโs always a red ribbon on his tail, which serves as a warning.
>He riots if thereโs not enough play time.
>Gold Ship does not neigh: he barks and makes weird sounds instead. Experienced stable workers have said that they have never heard the sounds Gold Ship makes before.
>He gets very depressed and frustrated if he loses a training match to Just A Way, and would refuse to eat for a while.
>But if other horses occupy Just A Wayโs stable, he gets mad.
>He loves doing fan services, and he does that consciously. He poses for the camera and knows just how to get the fans happy. He also does absurd things just for photo-ops (like chewing snowflakes).
>He likes his groom Imanami and hates his trainer Sugai.
>There are occasions when you can clearly see that Gold Ship keeps moving to find a perfect position to launch kicks at Sugai.
>Sugai kissed Gold Ship once, which made Gold Shipโs eyes turn dead
>When he eats grasses, he dips it in water first, just like how humans eat some foods with sauces.
>Loves mating and treated the mares he mated with very well. He has a very high fertilisation rate (about 96%).
>According to his trainer, saying the word 'mating' in front of Gold Ship would cause him to become erect.
>Itโs said that many mares fell in love with him after mating.
>Terrified however of the Mare Gentildonna (known for being very muscular and large)
>>71427361499% of that was shounen shit
>>714291146well that fucking blows
>>714258135 (OP)I spent $40 after using my free 3 star tickets to get more horse girls. It's nice to have more options than the same 5 I've been playing with all week. I hope i never have to use Vodka again.
>>714258135 (OP)It's over...the normies found out about my niche weird game...
>>714291679normalfags don't stick to gachas, except for crap like genshin
>>714289512That's what I didn't really get looking at all the posts saying 10/10 aotyay, it felt like it was repeating itself over and over again until the final episode where it was still doing that complete with the obligatory jobber flashback sequence and then they the jobber won, that was a good curveball even though expected. Oguri herself felt like there wasn't much character to her aside from autism. Once they got to Tracen all characters stopped existing aside from Symboli Rudolf and Tamamo Cross and weirdly enough Fujimasa March, and even the newly introduced game characters barely get any screentime in because they're busy showing Oguri Cap winning her 420th race.
>>714291679>nichei dont think you know what that word means
>>714291029Imagine the one-leg crushing thigh/knee pit job.
How hard did they butcher the dialogue in the translation?
>>714292046A lot of the skill descriptions are worthless and don't tell you what they actually do
The skill of getting velocity in ramps is strangely consistent so far, you almost don't notice the ramps during normal play but seems like there's a lot.
>>714291679normalfags will lose interest within a few days after they're done making fun of it
>>714291484>scared from Gentildonna>very muscular and largeuuuh... proofs?
>>714266996just want amazon size horsegirls is that too much to ask for
full giant would be nice too
>>714273485Horses are such terribly built animals that it's unironically better ot shoot them in case a leg gets broken cause the other 3 cannot sustain it's body
>>714292682Gentildonna (Daughter of Deep Impact) was at times mistaken by the crowd as a male horse due to her size and power. Gold Ship's trainer actually believed that Gold Ship didn't recognize her as a mare as a consequence of that, thus possibly part of why he didn't like being near her. In Uma Musume, they joke about this by having her constantly perform superhuman feats of strength.
>>714283076>mfw Urara last CareerYou can't do that to me. Not after all those wins I got her. AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>714293006win the finals for her
So does this game/anime havw yuri or is it all just bait
>>714292046Run of the mill trannyslation where the "implied meaning", according to the troon translating, is preserved.
I.e. Sometimes the horses are saying something completely different compared to what the text says.
>>714293131Bait. They can't commit to anything because they're using the persona's of rl horses and the horse owners can withdraw consent whenever they want.
>>714293131All the characters have 15 inch throbbing cocks so it's whatever weebs call gay porn
>>714292860That's far larger than a horse would be.
>>714288146>Reading the first chapter of the gacha main story to spoil the ending of Cinderella Gray that hasn't been published yetReal nigga hours
>>714292994 Gold Ship not recognizing Gentildonna as a fellow mare is somehow both the most in-character and out-of-pocket lore detail I've ever heard. Makes perfect sense she'd have giga chad energy in Uma Musume too-girl probably punches vending machines to dispense juice.
Imagine being a human female and your bf gets stolen by an uma...how do you cope with that? I mean, you cant stop her.
>>714293770An Uma being a homewrecker would be terrible for her reputation
>>714293770Shoot her in the head with a gun.
>>714292860Tachyon will make giant horsegirls real
>>714293673There was an incident during a race where Gentildonna's jockey fucked up and made her bump into Gold Ship, and while Gold Ship usually is a lot nicer to mares than other stallions- He immediately bounced right back into her to pay back the hit. Which seems further evidence that he just legitimately did not see her as female.
>>714293770Yuri rape her of course
>>714260335>>714260375I thought racing with low energy would injure my Uma?
I've been resting before the race for nothing???
>>714285902Oguri is too fat to run long races.
>>714293673>as a fellow mare
>>714292860Then you'd want Shire horses. Very large and muscular
Would she be a good Umamusume?
If you want more beautiful mare then Gypsy Vanner but they're shorter racing horses.
>>714294412What the fuck is the Falabella. That looks like a cruel joke.
>>714294254>crippleI dont think so
>>714294254Agro has a lot of stamina and power but not enough speed.
Infinite guts tho
>>714294474rich white women "horse"
>cruel joke.Like all animal breeds for white women
Air Groove Factoids
>Became known as an 'Empress' due to fans viewing her as a cool, composed mare. However not all of her behaviour was in line with this.
>She loved to lick people, earning her the nickname of Pero-Chan (Licky-chan).
>She lost the Shuka-Sho because she got disturbed by the fansโ flash photography.
>JRA banned the use of flashlights directly on horses afterwards.
>Prior to the 1994 Fall Tennoshou, her owner was worried she'd be unable to find victory and opened a discussion regarding it with the trainer and assistants. An assistant trainer, Kazuhide Sasada said "Just trust in our gyaru and do it." Everyone was taken aback that Sasada considered Air Groove to be a Gyaru. It's something of a meme in the Japanese community.
>She also has a humorous relationship with Pilsudski, Fine Motionโs half elder brother:
>Before the 1997 Japan Cup started in which both competed, Pilsudski caught sight of Air Groove and suddenly bared an enormous erection.
>An erect horse will tend to perform oddly, ignoring instruction and acting on their own lust. This would come ot pass.
>During the race, Pilsudski attempted to approach Air Groove, and eventually took her over from the inner lanes to win the race. It's believed Air Groove may have run poorly due to an attempt to escape him.
>Take Yutaka commented after the race: โI did everything right, Air Groove did everything right and ran a perfect race, yet there is still a horse capable of defeating her in this situation, the world is hugeโฆโ
>After the race, Pilsudski was depicted by fans as a hentai who stalks Air Groove. He also earned the nickname โgod of erectionโ by fans.
>>714294474Created to be companion animals and for children. Apparently they are very gentle with good dispositions and friendly personalities and great with kids
>>714293451>real lifenigga
>>714294503You're not very smart are you?
>>714294474I have seen some people training them as guide for blind people, if they have allergies to dogs.
>>714291096Why don't we just let gorillas and cheetahs compete?
>>714294718>She lost the Shuka-Sho because she got disturbed by the fansโ flash photography.
>>714270515>Season 2: What if we did less idol and more sport?More like what if we made the MCs constantly get setbacks and have to tackle the idea that they won't get to achieve their dreams.
That and 1 episode of terminator Rice, I wanted more of that.
>>714270515Season 3 bros...
>>714283608>NTR spin offWhich one is that again?
Was it recent?
>>714293451Not realy. With irl horse weight, she weighs over 8 times as much as human woman should, so her height would be cubic root of that, meaning she should be at least 2 twice the size of a human at minimum
>>714270515Cinderella Gray is basically the fate of every shonen, to turn into Dragon Ball Z
>finally Rice run without terrible luck
>first tries every challenge
>wins every URA by 4+ lengths
>zero clocks
Holy Assassin in Black!
>>714297072 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjPXzJedwiA
>>714258135 (OP)it's kinda fucked up that you're attracted to generic anime girls based on real animals
>>714297860jealous horse hooves typed this
>>714297843Don't cheat, bald jerma is playing it and he has 26k
>>714297668>RTTTI swear I watched thhat, but I don't recognize some of the scenes I've seen posted like TMO slapping her ass.
I either memoryholed it or I thought that the movie I watched after S1 was RTTT before moving onto S2
>>714297948It's so funny that this is taken from an irl commercial.
>>714270998DST for distance
Or as I like to call it, DST for destruction
>>714298089This actually happened IRL.
>>714298017His fans are massively autistic and will try to force down everyoneโs throat
>>714298409So his fans are uma fans
>>714298017>>714298409His fans are mostly trannies and far-leftoids, I don't know what's up with that and why are they so in love with him
So does no one give a shit about the jockeys in horse racing? All the talk is about the trainers and horses usually
>>714298657(you) are the jockey
I decided to download the game since people won't shut up about it. I just watched the opening.
After years in idol hell, please tell me I'm not about to descend back in...
>>714298657the jockey just hits the horse and is small
>>714298831That nigga has the stare of a horse, jesus christ.
Daiwa Scarlet is the LeBron James of horses
>>714298657Iโm the jockey, right before the race I slap my umaโs ass to get her rearing to go
>>714298657>So does no one give a shit about the jockeys in horse racing?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qmIm0Q06eU
They're all freaks
>>714298732UMAPYOI UMAPYOI
>>714293923>I wish for giant horse girls!>"wish granted... now open your eyes, trainer">I open my eyes and see Agnes Tachyon standing before me, the same height as she always was>
>>714298732Don't go to nyaa and search uma musume with the live action category
>>714298732get the fuck out while you still can
>twitter is now full of normies jizzing themselves over this game
>>714299678More art for my uma bro. It was an inevitability
>>714298657Some characteristics from the jockeys are mixed with the uma but most don't necessarily have particular mannerisms. If I recall, Teio's constant hand sign with her poses calls to her jockey posing about two particular wins
>>714299678Normalfags are trash, and the ocean is blue
>>714299981enjoy your favorite girl pretending to be a horse to become a trans icon
how hard do you need to whale to have fun in this game
>>714299678I feel like westerners or maybe just twitter folx are way too irony poisoned to NOT be a little irritating, even when they like the same thing as me for the same reasons as me. Because it will get wrapped up in that toxicity whenever they express themselves. It's the difference between
>Uma Musume is surprisingly funand
>This unironically goes kind of hard though?
>>714300258You gotta stop letting trannies dictate what you can and canโt like
>>714300258Calling it now: they'll attach themselves to Tachyon because of the colors of her shoulder things + science theme.
Imagine Tachyon making a futa horsecock drug
>My length has already surpassed yours... this is where the real experiment begins"
>Vodka does great the whole time
>Arima Kinen comes along suddenly shoving a long race into the mix
What the fuck, bros
>>714300821>(You) take it
>favourite imas: hibiki and takane
>favourite umas: amazon and golshi
I have a problem
>>714301091You're not a bad trainer are you? She should easily win it
>>714297948>>714298089>Get convinced to join the race>Hyperfocus on beating just 1 horse>Inhumane training for days>Train so hard you develop your own kaioken>Heeru janai, Hero da!Love this little squeak
>>714301421Those are mine too, they just fall on extremes of the spectrum like darkest and lightest etc
>>714301536I think it's because all the others I've trained so far have basically been full speed short distance like Shuttle, But Vodka's different and while I still prioritize speed, having a sudden Long in the mix and literally next to zero skills coming up that aren't Front/Sprint and only one affordable recovery is screwing things up a lot