Thread 714260609

>80%
WE CAN'T STOP WINNING

They are losing their fucking minds.

>>714260609 (OP)
anti-skg fags are pedos. remember the thread.

>>714260609 (OP)
>Euros will win the fight for their gaming freedom on July 4th
Poetry.

Maldavius status?

>>714260750
Fagtree will be forever in disrepair are this one.

>>714260726
>freedom
>government intervention.
???

>>714260750
malding like never before

janny melty soon

>>714260810
Ah yes, corpos should be free to mix flour with asbestos when they make my foodstuffs.

>>714260810
Nominally democratic systems, even bourgeois democracy, is preferable to raw corporate tyranny

>>714260810
retard

>>714260609 (OP)
BASED
>jews status: SEETHING

>>714260810
Yes, freedom given by a mandate of the people forcing the government they elected to act on their behalf.

doesn't it have to reach like 120% because of fake signatures?

So fucking pathetic if you think that this is a win.
Some fucking boomer will look at this petition
>STOP KILLING MUH BIDEO GAMIES WAHHH
and will wipe his ass with it

Signatures per day needed down to 7k per day. I don't want to celebrate early, but I think we got this in the bag, bros.

>>714260609 (OP)
200k more and we're good to go

ignore shillers and derailers

>>714260810
You have the freedom to not ingest lead and asbestos thanks to government intervention.

just a reminder a ton of these will be invalid signatures so realistically you'll need around 1.2m

>>714260659
Who?

>>714260609 (OP)
Jannies are going to lose it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEAg1Cs8Ae4

>>714260609 (OP)
Hell yeah gamers can't stop winning

>>714260895
i would be surprised if it has 1k fake signatures in total

NOOOOOO WE NEED TO STOP THIS
SAVE ME JANNIE

>>714260609 (OP)
cool

714260810
huh?

>>714260912
There’s a lot of young MPs in the EU parliament, sorry that you live in an oligarchy ran by retarded boomers.

>>714260914
still need +200k~ over that for all the invalid signatures

READY FOR JANNY DILATION?

>>714260912
>The EU won't greenlight this initiative.
>You won't get enough votes.
>The EU won't care. [You are here.]
>These laws can't be enacted.
>Guys, I need a new job.

>>714260895
No it doesn't. It would be preferable to have more than mandatory one million because of invalid signatures but there's no such requirement.

A stepping stone towards a better software environment. They can't stop it, we're making a precedent.

>>714260609 (OP)
a big French publication just dropped an article on stop killing games, i got it on my google news feed, we can do this
https://www.ouest-france.fr/gaming/jeux-video/pourquoi-les-jeux-video-meme-achetes-ne-sont-pas-votre-propriete-on-vous-repond-d286017c-5195-11f0-9d8f-210ccc004fd7

>>714261017
You are replying to a copy-paste.

STOP THE COUNT-

>>714260810
the government needs to intervene to stop those with money, it's the only way

>>714260609 (OP)
counterargument: what about the issue with data storage? it's becoming quite a big energetic and environmental problem as of today, wouldn't it be better to remove unused files? don't forget also the impact electromagnetic fields have on our health.

>>714260942
>and we're good to go
no we need an extra 20% to account for rejected signatures

>>714261070
Basé!

JANNIES CRYING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNyzjQtgJjA

POLITICS BELONG ON POL

GTFO

MODS

>>714260810
>>government intervention
why do people keep using these words like its an inherently bad thing

>>714260810
>DA GUBBERMITN!!!!!!

Look, I know governments do quite a lot of dumb awful shit but lets not pretend we'd all be happier with no regulation and companies free to save money in any way they pleased.
Its thanks to government interventions that US based food stays in the US and the rest of the world gets to eat (mostly) actual produce without corn syrup shoved everywhere and non-chlorniated chicken.

>>714261098
Not really.

>>714261130
ALL THE WORK
0 MONETARY COMPENSATION

>>714260810
ancap troons are so pathetic holyshit

>>714261013
The last panel doesnt really work without some disgusting Youtube grifters joining the SKGs side.

>>714261098
Whatever, it's not clera yet how much of it is fake. Focuse on 1 million for now.

>>714261025
>janny that hates the threads read the shill line that it would be a flop and never get past the line
>left the threads alone because they wanted to prop up grave dance threads when it failed
>started to panic when they realised it would succeed
>now it's too late
>mfw demoralisation shills shot themselves in the foot yet again

>>714260709
Just say jannies

Why do you fags insist on turning singleplayer indie games into multiplayer server games?

>>714261070
>ouest
Put in x somewhere in there and it would be the Frenchest word I've seen

>>714261040
1 million is nothing. You're acting like its a win because EU is forced to look at at. There are convincing arguments to why the games SHOULD be killable as well.
Just because minority of peasants think something should be done does not mean it will

>>714261094
is this you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuqmKg6QQTw

>>714261131
Brainwashed ancaptards.

>>714261131
Americans have been brainwashed by their oligarchs and now equate feudalism with freedom.

>>714260750
raped

>>714261094
Simply use the exess server heat to warm central heating and make warm water for the water pipes to wash dishes with etc.

Stop spamming/flooding, zogbot.

How's the xitter thing going?
I don't go there since it requires logging in to fucking BROWSE.

>>714260810
Consumers are retarded and will throw money away for a brief chance of a dopamine rush, a sense of belonging or to feel superior. Thus the prevalence of gachas and MTX.
Sadly, we NEED retard wranglers and the government is the only ones in position for it.

>>714260750
in freefall

>>714260609 (OP)
>80%
I remember being gutted last year when it sputtered to a halt at 40%. We've come a far way now.
Best of luck Euro bros, you can fucking do it.

>>714261184
Nobody want's that. Stop inventing fake scenarios in your head.

>>714261158
I signed anyways because it doesn't hurt singleplayer games and i'm libertarian.

tick tock, maldavius

>>714261129
The paycheck for their shilling finally went through lmao. Too late to stop it now though.

>>714261204
>There are convincing arguments to why the games SHOULD be killable as well.
Nope.

>muh environment
stop collecting needless data then
>but I need it to improve vidya
no you don't, start talking to your players you humongous fag

>>714260750
MALDavius

ITT: burgerclaps mads they can't have the same privileges as Europeans.

>>714261204
>There are convincing arguments to why the games SHOULD be killable as well.
Like bankruptcy? That should be an exception, not the rule.

>>714260895
more like 150% yeah but let's not delude ourselves into thinking it's gonna reach 100 in the first place. there's 25 days left.

>>714261053
of course it isn't required to have more than a million but then it will very likely be invalidated during verification
i don't get why people insist that there won't be invalid signatures. even the damn official eu website for ECI tells that it is better to have more than required number of signatures for that reason

We are winning.

>>714260609 (OP)
>it`ll stop at 400k
>it`ll stop at 500k
>it`ll stop at 600k
>it`ll stop at 700k
>it`ll stop at 800k
YOU ARE HERE
>it`ll stop at 900k
>The votes are fake anyway
>they wont pass any laws
>The laws will be bad
>the laws wont work

>>714261204
>There are convincing arguments to why the games SHOULD be killable as well.
Unfortunately for you Nintendocultist-kun, we are in Europe. None of the
>convincing
arguments apply here.

>>714261070
https://archive.is/yu9pu

Look, just sign the stupid petition. I got stuff to do.

REMINDER TO AVOID POLITICAL DIVIDE AND IGNORE DERAILMENT/SPAM

It's time to cut off your fingers, /v/.

>>714261130
you are beneath a janny, you are a wannabe janny

>>714261230
It's crazy to me he peaked right around talking about SKG initially. He really did put all his hate and energy into it, and it ruined his career.

I hope this passes so LOL, FF14 and WoW still remain active and contain monstrosities they call "playerbase".

>>714261130
>POLITICS BELONG ON POL
>talking about the ownership of your videogames is politics now
>>714261250
It does not hurt multiplayer games either.
>talking about videogame publishers killing games with online components is politics now
What about videogame publishers delisting videogames? Does that qualify as someting that we can discuss on /v/? Fucking faggot.

>>714261274
YES
I am really mad that I can't be raped by muslims every single time I leave my house

>>714261184
You got it wrong again, we want them turned into live service games, then made free and supported forever.

thorkeks....

>>714260609 (OP)
you said the same when it got to 40% and then it stayed there for 10 months

>>714261274
more like burgerclaps mad they're going to be forced to reap the benefits of european privilege

>>714261204
>There are convincing arguments to why the games SHOULD be killable as well.
The only argument is planned obsolescence (we need to sell the new product, but can't because people are playing the old one!), which is a non-argument.
If your business is not viable without fucking people over, then your business should not be allowed to exist.

>>714260609 (OP)
A bit off topic but I didn't know the guy that made freeman mind was a european I thought he was a American from like a very white town or city.

>None of the convincing arguments apply here
you say this whilst begging to be taken seriously

Roach software on suicide watch.

>>714261406
>fucking faggot
Go dilate somewhere else, zealotic bitter nigger.

>>714261285
That 20% number is completely made up. It might be 1% invalid or 10% invalid or 0,1% invalid.
12-15% is usually invalid when signing petitions on the street. Since this process is automated the number should be lower not higher.

>>714260609 (OP)
NOW IM MOTIVATED

We're in this together, no corpo shill can stop us if we stay on this track.

>>714261386
These games would lose 99% of the player base as soon as the seasonal content stops being produced.
This is another reason why this initiative is fucking retarded

>>714261493
He is American, he just moved to Poland

TOTAL JANNY GENOCIDE!!

>>714261493
he moved to Pooland

Do you need to be an adult to sign this? It would suck if the EU threw this initiative out because it was signed by half a million children

>>714261415
but at least I can play that shitty AAA game filled with $1000 worth of microtransactions a decade from now... unless video games get outlawed.

START KILLING GAMES!
YOU INSOLENT FUCKS CALLED GAMERS™ NEED TO FINALLY WAKE UP FOR THE DREAM OF OWNING YOUR VIDEOGAMES.
YOU OWN NOTHING!
YOU OWN NO GAMES!
YOU OWN NO NINTENDO SWITCH 2!
YOU OWN NOTHING!
YOU WILL BE HAPPY HAVING A LICENCE WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO PLAY GAME FOR AS LONG AS MORE IMPORTANT PEOPLE THAN YOU THING IS PROFITABLE!

I haven't followed the whole drama (signed first month it come out ), but why did this suddently got so strong? Did e-celebs talk about it?

FUCK APPLE, FUCK TECHBORS AND FUCK CORPOS.

>>714261502
Yeah I pretended to be retarded in order to get this shit passed. Welcome to the finding out timeline bud

they're botting the poll. all of these signatures are going to get removed. the furry will win

>>714261493
>>714261540
>>714261552
Not a citizen though, so he can't even sign the initiative, lmao.

>>714260609 (OP)
>the last 30% of the signatures are botted and will be removed once the month is over

>>714260810
>freedom
>unregulated liberal capitalism

>>714261493
He is American, but legislation in the EU is more open to initiatives like this one, so that's why it got started here first.

>>714261557
You don't get an ID card unless you are legally adult. And you need ID to sign it.
Do the math.

>>714260609 (OP)
As a vidya developer I'm not going to sign it. Whoever makes the game should be able to do with it as they damned please. The standard nowadays is online server-based games and those are expensive to maintain.

If you want games to stay alive then KEEP PAYING FOR VIDEOGAMES you fucking losers

>>714261507
since it is automated it allows for bots

>>714261467
Did amerimutts also piss and shit this hard when they got steam refunds?

>>714261540
>>714261552
Oh ok good for him

>>714261530
>Said this after WoW:Sneedolands expansion which delivered 1 patch per 1 year
>Said this after FF14: Dawntrail content be nothingburger and people glazing OC like the best thing ever because they need an excuse to play something to keep them subbed
ouch...

>>714261493
polska's pride and joy

You know that there is bots fighting against this initiative when you see them mass reporting to mods to move the discussion elsewhere, a place where most people won't care, since it's purely related to video games and ONLY video games.
Clearly, some publishers/companies aren't happy about this, and of course, I would put my money on Ubisoft to be in the mix, knowing their track records here...

What a sad place this website have become.

>>714261415
I've been to the US, your cities almost look third world, your food is terrible and you need to drive or take a taxi just about everywhere.
You're more likely to be shot and raped in the US than the EU.

Videogames.

>>714261612
Any source for your claim?

>>714260609 (OP)
and the bongistani petition is at nearly 89k out of the required 100k

>supporting a place pushing for censorship
>laterly they also are discussing again out to fuck end-to-end encryption to access your data
Just as a reminder of what kind of institution you're calling for help.

>>714261612
You need your ID to sign it

>>714261020
Assuming there are 200.000 invalid signatures.

>>714261647
So just don't make online dependent game in the first palce. How about that huh?

>>714261701
yes. it came to me in a dream.

>>714261385
It's probably a combination of things; hating on SKG, that WoW fiasco, and maybe some other spicy takes on his part which I don't know about.

>>714261697
Can't hear you, you are too poor

>>714261645
>You don't get an ID card unless you are legally adult
Wrong. In Germany you get it at 16.

Modern multiplayer games are too sloppy for me.

>>714260609 (OP)
>Hero's last ditch attempt manages to save everybody
Thank you cool balding man

>>714261545
>>714261689
>ummahmind
Mashallah brothers

>>714260659
I thought it was just random shitposters seeking easy (You)s but I'm starting to believe it's organized Th*r Discordtrannies/mods on a crusade. The attempts at derailing the threads are too consistent.
Might even be thirdies on the payroll, feels like they're just copypasting baits until something sticks. That would explain the "people" spamming CPs to nuke threads.

>>714261647
>As a vidya developer

What have you worked on?

>>714260810
>Corpos should just be able to fuck you over anytime
If anything this is a thing to keep corpos in line for the consumer.

>>714261647
Game devs are 90% faggots or pajeets who can't even speak English. You deserve all the shit you get and more.

>>714261707
and the game dev/studio city in scotland has the most signatures

>>714261726
not in every country

>want AAA to fucking die and reclaim the old days of vidya through indie
>e*ropeans are trying to guide them away from the cliff
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>714261576
>Did e-celebs talk about it?
Exactly. The original creator tried to spread the word as if the internet hasn't devolved since the introduction of social apps.
Once the deadline was approaching, he said fuck it and tackled youtubers that talked shit about the initiative without holding punches. The drama spread like wildfire. Kind of sad but such is the state of the art.

>>714261726
When I signed it I only had to provide personal info (that will get checked later)

>>714261648
Those bots would need database with names by country and matching IDs.

Hope those Broadswordfaggots will finally implement an ability to replay class story once the intiative have passed.

>>714261651
It was the same hemming and hawwing about how licenses are not goods that you see with this topic now. Americans are and forever will be thralls to their corporate masters.

wait, what do you need to to sign exactly? because like i can sign twice on my pc and on my phone? i can't reset the IP or something?, requires an ID?

I saw a message about this on Gelbooru. Is that where the votes are coming from?
Still kind of embarrassing that the whole gaming community couldn't get even those 100k in a matter of few months and several times more by now.

>twenty minute period of threads getting nuked on sight, alongside utterly random other treads on the catalog (including one shitting on starfield, oddly enough)
>then nothing
Someone explain it to me.

>>714261726
many countries including France dont need one, you jsut fill out some bullshit data

>>714261613
>>714261662
He married a Polish girl and I'm pretty sure he's been married for more than 3 years, which means he has PL citizenship.

>>714260810
>wtf where's my freedumb to get my rectum destroyed by corporations???
do americans really

>>714260912
>>714261130
>>714261220
>>714261614
>>714261612
>>714261725
Lol you're so fucking pathetic man

Look at all the shills and npcs coming out of the woods getting mad at actual democracy. They don't want you to have a voice. Remember that.

>>714261020
You are delusional if you think there are more then a couple hundred fake signatures

>>714261871
Tendie break for the jannies.

The fact that these guys wrote the vaguest shit and refuse to specify the meaning of any of the demands just mean it's destined for failure
They also refuse to comment on a variety of historical games cases and how they would fit into this including
>Guitar Hero Live
>Marvel Heroes Omega
>gacha games with "remembrance" modes
>games which added multiplayer as a free addon/dlc
And no, "the government will figure it out" is not good policy

an Asmongold thread died for this

>>714261651
They did before the EU forced Valve to do it.
When they found out they could refund, they were happy as fuck.

>>714261845
You only sign it once, the requirement is 1m individuals backing this initiative. Duplicates get thrown out

>>714261693
4chan is astroturfed to hell. Constant shilling and bots. Some boards are marginally better but /v/ especially has really gone down the shitter. That's why I don't come here as often.

>>714260609 (OP)
You fuckers know what's coming if you vote for this petition right? You know the consequences of inviting the government to intervene in the video games, knowing full well and probably lived through the 90s to 2000s where it was full of paranoid and delusional old men trying to dictate the rules and censor the fuck out of everything right? This is going to be even worse than that because now you have those same old men who now see the monetary incentive to fuck shit up and you fuckers are straight up kicking and screaming to come save you.

This won't be the government salvation you guys are hoping for, this won't even be the corpo vs government clash either, this will come entirely at your expense. They WILL fuck your shit up, anyone that has been around long enough knows not to trust the government and it's appalling to me that none of you can see Ross as the glowie that he clearly is. Why else would he go to such lengths to push this shit and throw on a full mask under the guise of caring for destroyed games? Why else has there been such a massive outbreak of supposed ecelebs throwing their weight into this all of the sudden when the natural response was to veer as far away as possible from this clear glowie psy op? They know now that they can get some headway and they've been going into overdrive to push for this and you idiots are falling for it.

If there's any among you that still possesses a brain, I implore you to not sign this shit. Don't give it attention, don't give it any time of day. This shit has so many malicious layers to it that it would be wise to not interact with it at all, and to say nothing on the long term ramifications against the average consciousness should it go through. Do you really believe that you aren't throwing away your personal information for the government to "leak away" in a year's time when this is over

>>714260609 (OP)
No no no no, you can't do this to me, I have stocks in EA, Ubisoft and 2K you fucking niggers, stop the count AAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIEEEEEEEE

>>714261415
>changing the topic
KWAB

>>714261879
I just believe that games should be "killable". Let the devs sunset online games. You're splitting up the player base if you have 10 different entries in an online franchise

>>714261763
Yes but you have a right to sign the petition when you get an ID. Doesn't matter how exactly your particular country set that age.

>>714261879
I want this to succeed but seeing that some retards are faking signatures only hurts the cause.

>>714261871
i imagine the other jannies told the schizo janny to shut the fuck up and stop being a retard

>>714261901
>a citizen's initiative requires the citizen to have a full understanding of how to draft legislation
Yawn. Get some better doomposting material

this is most likely going to be a slippery slope
government gives you free games
then government gives kids free hrt
think about it

>>714261879
Skg posters are schizo paranoids.

>>714261845
>>714261852
It's an EU initiative, you have to be a citizen of an EU member country and provide personal identification to sign.

ubijeets lost
tendies lost
jews lost
piratecuck lost

>>714261972
Oh I love owning nothing it makes me so happy

>>714261818
Well then he did the right thing. You cannot win the war if you don't use all the tools

>>714261871
Commies are mice.

>>714261901
citizen initiatives cannot be not vague

>>714261778
>Th*r Discordtrannies/mods on a crusade
This is almost certain considering how large and dedicated his fanbase is. There will be several individuals how absolutely would go on a spamming crusade here.

>>714261925
I'm not reading that.

>le botted signatures
How is this possible if an ID is required? There's no verification on the spot on the signing page?

>>714261973
Still doesn't change the fact that you are, in fact, NOT legally an adult when you get your ID card in Germany.

>>714261925
if these old men censor the lgbtq+ stuff then I'm ok with it, maybe they'll heal my niggerfatique or mah-stronk-waman-MC-fatique

>>714261925
quality pasta

>>714261189
its pronounced west

>>714262023
If you're seeking ownership in video games you got some personal issues to work on buddy

>>714262005
The government is always shit and pro-state fags have only to cope if they don't lift their asses to build more independent movements instead of crying about malfunctioning corporate toys.

>>714261852
That is how all initiatives work. Look at kickstarters, the most progress will always happen at the very start and then shortly before the end of the kickstarter

Holding devs and publishers to their word is honest and based.

>>714261972
>You're splitting up the player base if you have 10 different entries in an online franchise
Maybe devs should make the new game good enough that people want to migrate voluntarily?

>>714261645
In Poland you only need to give your name and PESEL number, and everyone has a PESEL, children included

>>714261925
Nice chatgpt copy paste, now back to mcdonalds Mr.Fatburger

>>714261924
I like how this initiative is scaring them shitless.

>>714261885
Not just fake, entered invalidly too. An earlier initiative, Water is a Human Right, had 100k invalid signatures.

>>714260609 (OP)
If this goes through I will find out Scott's commieblock address and drive over to personally buy him a Polish beer

>>714261915
It was the aussies that forced Valve to implement refunds first

>>714261924
Dude, same. I haven't been to this site in years and it's a husk of a corpse. Only came back for this movement since every other discussion site is filled with apes talking about misinformation regarding the initiative and I thought this place would be better.

>>714261901
Jason Hall makes sense. Chet Faliszek makes sense. Ross just sounds like he wants something for nothing, not a proper right to maintain abandonware. There are too many IP complications involved, and this is not a "Abandon copyright & gas the kikes now" petition either. Which it could have been.

>>714262115
Oh my god you're actually happy owning nothing, holy shit

>>714261852
There are two petitions. One that needs 1 million signatures from the EU and another that needs 100K from the UK. It's not global, and is specific to those areas. Most of the awareness for the EU initiative has just been from English speakers since the guy who started it is one so that's really handicapped it until recently but there's been enough buzz that it's finally breaking language barriers now. The UK one had to get a mulligan because Parliament dissolved. Both are well on their way to hitting the goal now.

>>714262126
even when they get inside the state and start making laws for themselves at your expense.

You're still asking the EU for help, which is a corrupted centralized shithole.

>>714262130
Back in my day we didn't have this surveillance state tax id number bullshit

>>714262070
It's more about the verification.
I, for job reasons, has access to thousands of ID and could perfectly fake signatures. But, who I am gonna lie? I would need an army of Jeets to full all those petitions.

>>714260609 (OP)
am i supposed to sign it on behalf of my 80 years old parents too?
am i ready to commit fraud for vidya?

bro if they don't kill "The Last of Us" how will NaughtyDog make more money by releasing "The Last of Us: Reboot" and "The Last of US: TV show The videogame"?

>>714260810
whether you like it or not, government regulation is the only thing standing between you and an ultra-corporate hellscape where monopolies allow the rich to game the free market to provide the worst products and services possible at the highest prices

>>714262005
Sounds cool

>>714261345
Postal dude should be the mascot of this event

>>714261094
Simply burn all AI. That's a whopping one third of the whole world's energy infrastructure free to be used elsewhere like saving your porn folders.

>>714261415
Dont you have blacks for that?

>>714261837
no, they wouldn't. the signatures are verified AFTER the collection period and checked against the citizen registries of their respective countries. the eu commission collection system doesn't do any verification and doesn't even have those databases to check against
thats the entire point why there needs to be extra signatures.

>>714261924
Same here, it's unbearable, and the removal of the IP counter massively exploded this situation.

>>714260709
>remember the thread
i dont. dont think ive seen it before either, got screencaps?

>>714262070
>if an ID is required
ID is not required for every country.
You could technically bot the thing by repeatedly filling in random data.

>>714262154
Yeah, but the EU was about to do it too and everyone knew it, and the EU has more weight than Australia.

So what happens when EU looks at this and just says nah?

Both this petition and piratefag are retarded.
Fucking hell, do you really want to play bad games so much? The fucking Crew?

>>714261972
>You're splitting up the player base if you have 10 different entries in an online franchise

This is literally one of the defining factors that makes this shit despicable. Destroying a game to make players move on to your new product.

>>714262249
>meanwhile europe and america exploded in economic power with rapid industrialization and birthrates when it wasn't as regulated as now

>>714261876
>He married a Polish girl
So he's a NORMIE??

Fuck, how do I remove my name from the petition...

Anons you don't realise, we get new threads everyday because previous threads die.
If we make #stopkillingthreads 4chan would become unbearable

>>714262315
We declare a crusade and behead all ubisoft employees.

>>714262216
you were spouting the same bullshit 11 months ago when it first started...oops...

>>714260609 (OP)
So what happens when this inevitably fails?
Do I get a refund?

>>714262315
Unlike with American anti-corporate laws, in the EU they will at very least be considered and not thrown out immediately.

The EUpocalypse is coming for you bootlickers and your masters and you can't do anything to stop it

>>714261871
This place is entirely bought out by feds and special interest groups.
If that wasn't the case we would have had SKG as a sticky since the original announcement.

>>714261924
>haf a thread will be bots and shills
>half a thread will be obnoxious schizos
I honestly don't know which is worse.
shills are more common, but schizos will quite literally never stop unless something forces them to, meaning any topic targeted by one will be shat up for life

So what counts as killing a game? If I buy a multiplayer only game, and no one else plays it, is it dead and the devs are at fault? Does simply being able to launch the game count it as alive? Will all devs need to add bots to avoid being sued? Can they scapegoat it by adding a single tutorial level?

NOOOOO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING AIIIEEEEE

>How bout that pricks face when he saw the votes
>''hehe ferret looking motherfucking''
>M-M-MUH DAD WORKED AT BLIZARD

>>714262315
Nigga, these guys make the most bureaucratic laws of the most pointless shit possible, no way are they gonna see a clear void for consumer rights in this section and just ignore it. This ain't bongland.

>>714262340
Tbh I doubt anyone except the original creator cares for the fucking crew, but it’s about principle. If there is a game that you like, wouldn’t you like to protect it from gigajew pulling the plug and you not being able to play it ever again?

>>714262364
they're a bunxh of retards who are paranoid and full of disillusionmemt if they thing the EU solves their problems and not increase them.

>>714262397
>Unlike with American anti-corporate laws, in the EU they will at very least be considered and not thrown out immediately.
This does not answer the question. Why are you scared?

>>714262340
Yes. If I paid for something, I should not be robbed of the thing I bought with my money, regardless of its quality. Also, The Crew was the shit.

>>714262227
Dissolution of USAID was a good thing for video games. Better to have more video game industry in power than more government in the video game industry.

>>714262154
>aussies
no
eu changed consumer protection laws in 2014, valve allowed for refunds in 2015 because of those laws and aussies won that lawsuit in 2016, which only led to a small 3 million $ fine to valve
you could already get refunds for an year before that lawsuit ended and it was because of the change in eu laws

>>714262360
>huniepop 2
>2

>>714262303
You could, but then we'd see one country having disproportionately more than the others in the graphs. But there isn't one, and all of the countries have more or less retained their same positions from before this second spurt. So either this bad actor is going through the trouble of spreading it out, or the votes are largely legit.

>>714260810
>freedom is when you will own nothing and be happy

>>714262460
>Better to have more video game industry in power than more government in the video game industry.
You say this while begging the EU to force Ubisoft to keep The Crew online

>>714262315
Ross mentioned this
>what happens if we get enough signatures but EU ignores it
>representatives will walk away, and talk to the press, essentially burying them under bad press
in short EU would lose face if they choose to ignore it or go against it

>>714262315
Then at least we tried.

I didnt sign because Im not an autist that cares about playing the same game for 10+ years even if it died long ago
I also didnt sign because I hate Ross' stupid autistic face and voice

Suck it

>>714262429
If dev decide to shutdown servers the game is dead. In this case they will have to provide a way to launch the game server independently from them

>>714261871
/v/ is a adfarming board like /pol/ and /tv/
it operates under the guise of ''on topic'' discussion but mods will only push what brings in the most posters and ads

>>714262570
Hi Thor

>>714262515
I don't give a shit about The Crew or Ubisoft. I'm just saying holding people to their word is an honest thing to do.

>>714261876
on his last stream he said he doesn't have the polish citizenship
To acquire it he would need to learn polish, good luck with that

>Play Warcraft 3 with friends
>"Let's play again tomorrow"
>Game updates to Reforge
>Kill the mood
It's ok bros... what's the worse thing that could happen by killing games?

>>714260810
Crazy to think I've lived to watch unitedstatians become socialists and yuropoors into right wing neocons.

>>714260609 (OP)
Piratesoftware buck status?
>>714260810
You enjoy getting ass fucked by corpos?

>>714262570
How's your furry collection going Thor?

>>714262360
She's a butterface fujoshi with crippling social anxiety

>>714260609 (OP)
Bros... ferretFUCKERS are in ABSOLUTE SHAMBLES rn

>>714260946

Then someone sets up to a company that don't have you ingest lead and asbestos and everyone goes to that. Free market, simple.

>pewdiepie reposted
Its fucking over for non-believers

>>714262429
If you can fire up a dead game, get your 2 pals to fire it up too and get a match, then the game is not killed.
If you fire up a dead game and get "Can't connect to SlopComp(TM) BattleArbiter (C) servers, fuck you" then the game is killed.

>>714261876
Marriage in Poland doesn't grant or guarantee a citizenship. It can only speed up the process slightly.

>>714262602
>>714262639
I hate Thor just as much, just another lame cringy autistic faggot. Why do I have to be on either side?

>>714262636
>You enjoy getting ass fucked by corpos?
Holy shit, you're dumbfuck! Don't give your money to corpos then in the first place. Oh my god you're stupid

>>714262570
Agreed.
I also pirate every single game that I play, because I need the money and developers can die in a ditch for all I care.

>>714261996
>>714262045
If you're asking for massive changes to software licensing, you should have some kind of definition for the words you are using. If you can't define "playable" you've already lost

>>714262687
Then why even come to this fucking you thread you double nigger?

>>714262378
you were saying the same thing when we hit 600k

>>714262687
So you enjoy getting fucked in the ass by corporations?

>>714261840
Replay with same character? I would prefer if there was no limit for how many character you can create
Also replaying class is not that fun because it's still chore to reach many locations and you need to do other stuff to not be underleveled on final planet

>>714262640
Pics???

>>714260609 (OP)
What actually happens after it hits 100%? Is there any guarantee the EU does anything?

>>714262756
at least i'm not getting fucked in the ass by the goverment!

I signed because i know EU will fuck up all your dreams, i know for sure EU can't be trust and i double down on my bet.

I said it yesterday and i say it now anon, it's better if you emancipate yourself, boycott and burn AAA rather than asking the state to "correct" them, the state will always be corrupted.

You don't believe me so now let's make this experiment.

>>714262636
The Irate Software is about to start a carreer in ghost hunting

>>714261925
Copypast, KYS
>>714261901
>UUUUGH HOW THEY WILL SOLVE THOSE HUH???!
>just give gamers instruments to host a server
>>714262493
The babes were fire, tho
>>714262570
That can I do for you, Thor?

>>714262138
Yeah. Out of 1,6 million signatures. That translates to 6,25% of invalid signatures. Not 20% as has been mentioned itt.

>>714262615
>To acquire it he would need to learn polish
I didn't know my country is this fucking cruel. Holy shit.

>>714262798
So you do.
May I ask why?

>>714262719
Was browsing /v/ and decided to write my opinion, am I only allowed to visit threads I agree with?
>>714262756
No corporation is fucking me in the ass, like I said Im not some autistic faggot who obsesses over the same game for 10 years so Im never playing games that are dead

I just dont care

>>714262797
Only guarantee in life is death.

>>714261840
It's not retroactive tard.

>>714262794
wtf is this image
why does looking at it hurt

>>714262852
Shouldn't you be streaming right now Thor?

>>714260609 (OP)
When is the Twitter campaign starting?

>>714262570
>I didnt sign because Im not an autist that cares about playing the same game for 10+ years

Do you only watch new movies? Do you only watch new TV shows? Do you only read new books?

>>714262016
>thirdie thinks inspect element makes him special
KWAB

>>714260609 (OP)
Why 1 million of mentally ill, psychotic troons got to decide for the whole planet how the industry will be shaped in the future? Sane people does not even know about this retarded petition.
I hope that EU declines it.

>>714262798
Try not to pay taxes, pleb.

>>714262832
that is pretty common practice for most countries if you apply for citizenship anon

>>714262115
You should own what you buy. This has been standard since people traded stuff. This has never been argued against with books, comics, or movies.
Basic commerce to be short.

I have no idea how gamers out of all people bend over for suits and shareholders. Every other media enjoyers are fucking laughing their asses off seeing people siding with corporations when it comes to art. Like seriously, imagine someone buys LOTR book, then publisher destroys their access to it, and the guy who bought it would start defending the publisher for taking away their book. In what kind of cuckoldry relationship are gamers in with game publishers and suits?

>>714262797
>Is there any guarantee the EU does anything?
They have to respond to it, so that much is guaranteed. Whether it makes any difference is another matter. They could simply just drop it.

>>714262558
>EU would lose face if they choose to ignore it
LOL, as if something like that mattered to them. It'll just be business as usual.

>>714262852
>I just dont care
That's a bald faced lie right there.
If you didn't care then why are you here proclaiming about your lack of caring?

>>714262943
low effort troll, here's a pity (you)

>>714262653
>reposted
MAKE A FUCKING VIDEO! STOP TINKERING YOUR DUMB SELFHOSTING ON YOUR DECK YOU AUTISMO SWEDE
REEEEEEEEE!

>>714260609 (OP)
https://voca.ro/17O2U2lw7WU7

Sign, my fellow euCHAD, and horny anime bitches will become real and start sucking your dick INSTANTLY

>>714262965
>I bought a ticked to the movies, now I own the cinema hall and the IP rights to the movie

>>714262585
>>714262656
So has it been defined just how much of the game needs to be playable? Doubt devs are that evil though GaaS always seemed like a stupid idea, but does them simply adding a basic tutorial/firing range/practice track/etc fall under the lines of "playable"?

>>714262852
>I just dont care

You don't care so much you're posting in these threads telling people you don't care. See everyone? He totally doesn't care.

>>714262801
>it's better if you emancipate yourself, boycott and burn AAA rather than asking the state to "correct" them
nigger I barely buy two games a year and it's usually something from smaller studios, it didn't stop COD for selling millions while looking like fortnite for instance
>>714262852
you're a normalfag and clearly born after the year 2000

>>714263021
Yup

>>714263021
>I am incredibly retarded and love cock

>>714262992
Anybody who dare disagree with you is a troll?
Literal fanatic. You are like a religious cult.

>>714262964
Yeah, but most countries don't speak Polish.

>>714260609 (OP)
be aware that jannies delete these threads
they want to stop it

>>714263019
I get the feeling Britbongs will eventually return to EU

>>714262953
Haven't paid taxes in all my life
Every time I feel the desire to work I recall taxes and then that all taxless positions are explicitly for invader bioweapons and go back to being a bum

>>714263021
I bought the DVD and own a copy of it.
Can you say the same about your video games?

>>714262936
>please send penis pics for proof of identity

>>714260609 (OP)
EVEN IF THIS PASSES 1000000 NOTHING WILL HAPPEN THE EU GOVERNMENT IS CORRUPT AND WILL LISTEN TO INDUSTRY LAW MAKERS OVER (YOU)

>80%
What will happen when it hits 100%?

>>714261901
And to expand upon those historical cases

Guitar Hero Live offered the majority of it's songs via their online server which was shut down when the music licensing agreement ran out. They legally cannot bring back the servers distribute them as they do not own the rights to the music.

Marvel Heroes Omega was a Marvel themed MMO made by a third party. Disney stripped them of their Marvel IP licenses for refusing to sell them the game's assets and they had to shut down the servers. They legally cannot bring back the servers or distribute them as they contain Disney's IP which they do not own.

Many gacha games offer a "remembrance mode" once they shut down where you can view all the characters that you owned. The vast majority of them do not contain the combat part of the games. Is that considered playable?

Games that add multiplayer after the fact are sold as single player games. As the consumer did not actually pay for a multiplayer game but was granted a multiplayer experience for free, is it okay for the companies to shut these servers down?

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL

>>714263021
I know you're retarded, but here's a more fitting example
https://www.businessinsider.com/playstation-removes-hundreds-of-purchased-discovery-shows-from-library-2023-12
>buy movie
>corpo decides to delete it from their servers
>money stolen

>>714262965
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Video games are a dynamic product. Software requires maintenance, updates etc. especially when we're talking about online games.
If we're playing gymnastics here devs can update their game to just say "Hello World!" on the title scree and what you're gonna do?

>>714263125
eu is not usa

>everyone acting like goverments aren't puppets of big corpos
boy this is going to be a wake-up call

>>714263152
The EU will explode.

>>714263152
HOPE

>>714260810
yeah I own the things I purchase
you don't

100K A DAY

100000 A DAY

ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND A DAY.

>>714263019
This is actually and factually true

>>714262005
give them huge tiddy hrt for all i care. I just need my vydia game and a new pc

>>714260912
>what am i supposed to do? not kill vidya games?

>>714263090
believe it or not there are more cancerous languages to learn, Finnish for example without going outside of europe

>>714262508
Actually, I could see it being done with Germany, but the ratios it's climbing at seems in line with other countries. I have no doubt that there will be a hundred thousand or more signatures thrown out in the end since that seemed to happen with the other initiatives, but I think it'll be fine with the pace it's going at.

>>714263069
There is such a thing as buying a service, renting, and numerous other ways to temporarily acess something without ownership.
But I don't expect a fat, insane, tranny manchild shitting his diaper on a welfare to know about any of this.
Overfed pig who ate so much gibs, now you think that you own the whole world and everybody should feed you more, till your putrid belly bursts.

why do these threads get such a special treatment from the jannies?
we have a SEAnigger posting and bumping his own gachashit thread every single day but thats not spam I guess since its a gacha

>>714263152
Jews will die by the millions

>>714263098
Actually you also only own a licence, it says so on the disc.
However, even if the licence holder revokes that licence, you can still play the disc.

>>714262681
It speeds up it a fuckton. The general procedure is 5 years of temporary residency -> 3 years of permanent residency, then you can apply, you also need polish language certificate and a proof of stable income. If you’re married to a polish citizen you only need 2 years of residency and 3 years of marriage in total, no income statements or language certificates are required and you don’t need to make any kind of residency permit to be in poland

>>714260810
if some faggot sells me a game and then takes it back without giving me a refund while pointing to the fine print saying I paid $60 for nothing, then he is a scammer who is violating my freedom, hence the government needs to step in and stop him, least people be forced to take matters into their own hands.

>>714263176
>>714263202
Waddafug

>>714263183
This
Doomerchads are going to have a massive giggle. So happy that this shit didn't just die a silent death at 400k

>>714260998
>i would be surprised if it has 1k fake signatures in total

>>714263152
Video games will die. Forever.

>>714261130
>He proceeds with the undertaking in a manner entirely devoid of any conscious presumption that it might result in financial recompense.

>>714263098
You don't own anything. Do you even know how digital data works? Of course not. Fucking retard.
There is no difference between a game on a disc and a digital download on your drive.

>>714263183
Its so funny because if you ask the EU to make video game laws, I guarantee you they're going to ask Ubisoft to consult

>>714262715
>I also pirate every single game that I play
Which you won't be able to do once devs start having server-side logic as an anti-piracy strategy.

>>714263152
ubisoft hq spontaneously collapses

>>714263183
I am laughing so much, 4chan licking government's ass in 2025 as if it's this beacon of equality and anti-corporate interest.

we might do it, bros
we might kill piratesoftware's ego

>>714263106
>bot chose the wrong script
Lmao

>>714262615
Nah. I am pretty sure Jesse Eisenberg can't speak a word in Polish, yet he's nonetheless a proud Polish citizen.

>>714263183
>>714263253
>>714263290
>>714263308
They've hit the "okay, it's gonna pass, but we'll somehow still be able to say, 'I told you so,'" stage.

>>714263228
>There is such a thing as buying a service, renting, and numerous other ways to temporarily acess something without ownership.
Yes, and if they tell you beforehand that you are merely renting, everything is ok.
Telling me I am buying a game when I am in fact just renting access to a central server is not ok.

>Wake up
>800K
Feels good

The norther you live, the whiter you are

>>714263287
Still own my DVDs and Blu-Rays.
And soon thanks to the EU I'll own my video games as well.
And no amount of CP and animal torture spamming can stop it,

>>714263309
He still has more youtube subs than you have signatures :)

>>714263152
Secret mandatory cock-enlargement for every male gov programm will take force.

>>714263231
unironically I've asked them (back in october) why they were selectively deleting the SKG threads, while leaving DALL-E threads untouched.

Their answer was that "DALL-E" threads are making OGs, and SKG is politics.
I wish I had the screenshot here.

>>714263242
>without giving me a refund while pointing to the fine print saying I paid $60 for nothing
There is a fine print in TOS. Neck yourself now, troon.
SJW pieces of shit like you who insist on being a pest to everybody is why TOS even exist. Feel free to print it and go to court if you dislike something.

>buy lifetime access to a fun park
>fun park closes after few years
>B-BUT I OWN THE PARK!!!

You're fucking stupid.

>>714263228
Yes, this petition specifically asks to forbid selling games as service and sell them as products instead. Thanks for noticing.

>>714260810
you're right, we should legalise theft and murder, because government has too much power enforcing these laws

>according to indian shills the EU is at the same time omnipresent and infinitely corrupt to do the biddings of their economic masters and utterly helpless and never does anything
>even though india worships apple
>and apple was forced to bend the knee to USB-C regulations

>>714263152
Ubisoft, EA and Activision will hire pirvate PMC's to overthrow the European Union

>>714263336
Screencapped your post. Enjoy appearing in the collage

>>714260609 (OP)
>only 80% despite the power of e-celebs
It's over.... Pirate won

>>714263202
>10% progress in less than 24 hours
are we witnessing the snowball effect?
Yesterday it was at ~25k/day.

>>714263382
>wojackfag throwing a tantrum about not being able to shitpost threads to death posts that image
very ironic

>>714262904
you're not ready

>>714263382
This is such a false equivalency lmao

>>714263382
No one is as stupid as you, wojakfag. At least we can read instead of posting dumb shit that's been disproven a million times.

>>714260609 (OP)
It's gonna be funny as hell if it fills to 100% because of these constant threads on /v/ I kept seeing of people laughing that it wasn't gonna ever hit 100%.

>Fat, covered in his own shit tranny gives you a 1 cent tip at Starbucks
>With the smuggest, shittiest smirk imaginable he says:
>I OWN YOU!
>Now you must come with him and be his slave, or he will call the police

>>714263427
Even worse than that.
The Indians worship Sony as well

>>714263382
dont care
didnt ask
i will own my games

Why are there so many ESLs in these threads?

>>714263460
don't worry ive already accepted the fact

>>714263427
>hey anon what have you accomplished today
>HURR DURR A CABLE PORT AND BOTTLE CAPS
Lol.

>gamers rise up: the petition
i am entirely okay with this

Did the italians suddenly woke up?

>>714263530
lol

>>714263530
Real mystery that.

>>714263495
Anon why do you have a fetish for shit and trannies?

>>714263495
Thanks for your life story, anon. I hope your asshole recovers.

>>714263334
yeah, truly inexplicable how come a world famous millionare got on the fast lane of the bureocratic process, guess we'll never know

>every game is now a subscription instead of a purchase
Get loopholed retards

>>714263530
Because the EU is made up entirely of ESLs?

>>714262640
she spends all day inside retweeting porn on twitter

>>714263402
So, you just want to kill gaming, oh, wow. Who could have thought that shartie lunatics and gamingcirclejerk trannies will stand for something extremely malicious together.

>>714263530
Because its a thread about EU?

>>714261876
it's weird, but year after year i find myself respecting poles more and more. it is like a reverse sweden in that respect

>>714263090
>>714263226
sadly i only have this old picture for ants but here's a never, computer generated list of 6600 variations of the word "shop"
https://flammie.github.io/omorfi/genkau3.html

Europe has 715million, the idea that of 0.13986% of them can dictate what the 99.86% can do with their money is INSANE! Hope the EU just ignores it.

>>714263030
>intentionally prevent people from 'repairing' the game also by withholding vital components.
You cant have a match with basic tutorial/firing range/practice track/etc. Games are different so specifying what it means to be "playable" would be lawmakers job, but the "vital components" of the game need to be there.

>>714263530
>EU petition
>why so many ESLs
God damn, petitionfags are retarded

Just read this shit from their website. This is pretty much admitting that what they're asking for wouldn't work because of third party licensing unless they believe the law the EU would pass would make it illegal to have third party likening when selling a game, which is insane. Am I going crazy or am I the only person who read this?

>>714263495
>give him 1 cent of my time
>which he's already overstayed by the time half a second has passed

>>714260609 (OP)
Eh. Im kinda too old for games so getting enraged over these shit is just not worth my energy

>>714263584
and potatoniggers!

>>714263583
That is actually an expected outcome. Loophole your neck into a rope, faggot.

i miss marvel heroes omega

Motherfuckers you own nothing anymore anyways

You dont own the songs that you're playing on Spotify
You dont own the movies you're playing on Netflix
You dont own the games you're buying on Steam

But yeah you really should be spending all your time stopping developers for shutting down a dead game that 20 people still play

>>714263290
They could also consult GOG, Larian(BG3), Haemimont(JA3) and CDPR(CP2077). All of them have DRM free games on GOG. Ubisoft are not the only ones that make games in Europe.

>>714263340
>Yes, and if they tell you beforehand that you are merely renting, everything is ok.
They do, every single time, in TOS. But you are too much of a brain damaged retard.
This petition asks for something that was always here and you always had access to it to begin with.
Literal mass psychosis.

>>714263603
>Europe has 715 million gamers

>>714263556
Italy is currently under an extreme heat wave so most people are actually at home rather than on the beach, couple that with more e-celeb exposition and the last month rush and you get that surge of signatures.

>>714263294
Fair point.
I'll find another hobby then.

WONT SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE POOR DEVELOPERS

I swear it better be define whats considered playable, cause if all it takes is Ubisoft adding a circular track to The Crew you can drive around offline to count as playable... then I might actually have a good laugh.

just be clear: fuck the EU

I only support the initiative

>>714263583
Exactly. These idiots don't understand it will only make shit worse. Devs will find ways to kill games are worse then just abandoning them

>>714263583
Imagine paying a sub so your console will be able to play game... wait a minute

>>714260609 (OP)
What are some games that died because of the lack of such laws? I'm trying to convince some friends to sign and I don't have any examples.

>>714263629
Did I fucking stutter?

>>714263602
The only reason I have to hate Sweden is Fatshark being gay. Why do people hate them?

>>714263382
>lifetime
LIFETIME OF WHAT?
LIFETIME OF WHAT?
OF WHAT?

>>714263019
God bless!!

>>714263660

The old politicians are going to consult the ones providing the most tax dollars, don't kid yourself

>>714263619
>wtf why can't i pay to have things stolen from me? this is literally 1948!

>>714263654
>Game shuts down
>Community servers appear a week later, for those 20 people
So, what does the trannies even want then?

>>714263603
>Europe has 715million
What about EU?

>>714263619
You are just retarded. It literally says it right there: games which already exist will not have to change jackshit. Future games will have to be designed with the new law in mind.

>>714263382
Yes, and if you won't deliver you will go to jail :)

>>714263583
>>714263645
>>714263686

or every game will be single player which is fine with me

>>714263650
Don't be loud about it but look up project tahiti

>>714263673
I am honestly impressed at how Reddit manages to always be in the wrong.

>>714262357
"Mangling the limbs of children is a good thing!"
"The Triangle Shirt Waist Fire was a good thing!"
"Low wages and suppressing strikes with strike breakers and violence against protestors is a good thing"
-Anon "Does it for free" Anonymous

>>714263183
>EU forced Apple to switch to the USB-C cable or good luck selling apple products
>recently approved a law that force phone manufacturers to do phones with replaceable batteries for consumers if they plan to keep selling their phones in the EU in the future
>this is somehow good for the corpos
The EU might not be a paradise but it's definitely better at fighting corpo than America eating that shit up.

>>714263556
A couple of gaming websites (re)posted news about SKG

>>714263619
It's saying that current live service games, not made under any future rulings, would not be subject to suddenly requiring proper sunsetting procedures. This is attempting to prevent future products from being suicidally destructive.

>>714263619
not my problem

>>714260750
shoving a ferret up his ass as we speak

>>714263530
are you genuinely retarded?

>>714263226
binnish isn't even all that hard
you could learn it easily from vidya

>>714263619
>law doesnt apply to events that happened before it was passed
you want people to tell you fish live in water, too?

>>714263654
kill yourself

>>714263750
yeah i saw it on plebbit already
it will surely fail

>>714263382
A better anology with relevance:

You buy a car from a dealership. It’s cool, fun, and you paid full price. The dealership says, "You can use it anytime, just drive it on our special roads." You're happy.

Years later, one day you wake up, and...

The dealership bricks the engine in your car.
The car doesn't turn on, and you no longer have access to it, all you can do is look at it.
The dealership says, “We don’t support that model anymore.”
And remember: You never owned the car, just temporary permission to use it.

>>714263662
>They do, every single time, in TOS.
They don't tell me upon purchase, plus renting always has a rental time specified, not until one just doesn't feel like it anymore, eventually, maybe.
Now neck yourself, subuhman.

>>714263530
these threads are ESL safespace

>>714263654
>Initiative starts that says, "hey, maybe all this is bad, and we should fix it."
>Your faggot ass comes in and says: "why fix it? It's already fucked."

>>714263673
>I don't disagree that we need better consumer protections for gamers
Don't you just love reddit

>>714263781
How far will I get in Finland if the only word I know is perkele?

>>714263740
>>714263770
>>714263794
Like I said, you would make it so that future games could not use any sort of third party licensing when developing the game. I don't think you realize how stupid that is

>>714263654
Then what are you doing here, if the situation is hopeless?

>>714260609 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiay8I5IPB8

>>714263654
>you're playing on Spotify
look at this faggot lmao

>>714263536
Jenny would never scold us

Finally

>>714263767
I wish I could be this cool

>>714263309
for this alone it's worthy.

>>714263662
Ah yes, the TOS that you only get to see AFTER you've already purchased the game
fucking retard

>>714263683
EU is only bad because it should’ve federalised years ago instead of pretending to be a quasi-state

>>714263382
Then you read the fine print where you agree your life will be terminated upon closure of the fun park so the contract remains valid.
Welcome to America, son.

>>714263673
Just don't include always online telemetry and done
>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, I NEED TO HAVE CONSTANT CALLS HOME BECAUSE UHHHH
Somehow information technology has fucked the minds of the world
The conspiritard in me says that game devs would make a pretty penny selling the telemetry with some data broker, but they're all too stupid to make those kinds of connections and deals
Reminds me of buying CDs nuts in a store once and the stupid bitch told me to give her my email and phone number and I told her no
I bet that store also did nothing with that data but because some services like jewgle do, they all have to monkey-see-monkey-do with the technocracy

>>714260810
>>freedom is when you own nothing and give all your money to Israel
Why are libertarians like this

>>714260609 (OP)
THE VOTES ARE FAKE THEY'RE RIGGING THE ELECTION
GAMERS ARE DEAD

>>714263759
I still remember the sound of the loom - A-BOOM-CHK-CHK, A-BOOM-CHK-CHK

>>714263619
Third party licensing companies will just design their software in a way that allows their client to be reliant with the law. If they don't, someone else will and they will get their lunch stolen, it's the free market babyyy

>>714260609 (OP)
CuckSoftware raped a ferret

>>714263848
not my problem, corpocuck
your poor indie multibillion dollar business will have to adapt

>>714263828
>They don't tell me upon purchase
They do, when they ask you to accept their TOS.
It's time for you to stop being a child and grow up. learn what personal responsibility means.
Shame that you never had a father, could have used some beating when you were a kid.

>>714263846
pretty far, but you will get even further if you know how to say nothing and be perfectly comfortable with the silence

>>714263876
Because the only things a lolbertarian cares about are guns and molesting children

Yuropoor here, I will not sign the petition
Rev up the #KillAllTendies petition instead please

>>714263030
>Doubt devs are that evil
I don't know about the devs but i am 100% sure that the videogame publishers ARE that evil.

>>714263908
compliant with the law*

>>714260609 (OP)
T-THINK OF THE AAAA GAAS SLOP??

>>714263848
You don’t realise how stupid you are if you think that said 3rd parties wont release “open-source versions for EOS” asap. They still want the fucking money

>>714263908
>>714263930
Ah, so it's just retardation then. Got it

>>714263781
fuck no, I tried to learn a bit to impress university cunt
was ready to shoot myself after two weeks of learning

>>714263593
I know you zoomers don't know anything else than the fortnite model of gaming, but it used to work just fine without the forced live service model.

>>714263369
hello thor, how the ego going?

>>714263935
>perfectly comfortable with the silence
The Finnish sound like my kind of people

>>714263979
I don't think you understand how software distributors make money

>>714263761
wait a minute, EU might be actually based if true

>>714263950
>the only things a lolbertarian cares about are guns and molesting children
Hey wait a second I can get behind that myself

>>714262357
wow anon never thought of that
Europes birthrate was also at its best during the golden age where you could be beaten by a random town guard for not looking funny at him, get stranded in the middle of a raid by Britain or France during your walk home and be brought infront of the guillotine for sugesting that maybe the pope shouldnt be bribed into forgiving psychos
maybe we should go back to that

>>714263824
Not that far from the truth actually.

>>714264000
Zoomers have no excuse they have Minecraft

>>714263932
Do have any actual arguments or just ad hominems? Also, why did you ignore the second point?

>>714263654
you dont understand, their favorite ecelebs support this, so that means they have to as well

>>714261885
You need your ID to sign, dum dum.

>>714263619
Surely the companies licensing their game dev software or whatever will still want to keep selling it to game devs, and will just rework their licensing agreements going forward. These aren't immutable laws of the universe, they're just contracts that can be renegotiated.

>JUST DOX YOURSELF TO THE EU TO SIGN THIS COMMIE SHIT SO WE CAN FINNA SAVE VIDEO GAMES NNN SHIEEEET NYIGUH
No

>>714264060
based

>>714264036
>is a mitzvah
they're not even trying to hide anymore.

not signing it
1. fuck gaymers
2. you dont own the games anyway
3. initiative because some faggot wanted to play some shitty old game i dont care about
4. just pirate it faggot or don't fucking buy it in the first place
5. not my fucking problem

>>714264060
ywnbad

>>714263152
A second holocaust

>>714262570

Oh you're gonna sign it, bitch. Imma make you sign it!

If I entertained you at all, and you're feeling generous, would you please sign it? For a fren?

>>714264060
they already know your ID 'tismo

>>714263854
Fucking gypsies have beaten my country. I'm ashamed beyond belief.

>>714263991
kek

>>714263761
>recently approved a law that force phone manufacturers to do phones with replaceable batteries
Hadn't heard about this one. Neat.

>>714264060
>DOX YOURSELF TO THE EU
LOL

wtf was The Crew so good or something?

>>714264091
>2. you dont own the games anyway
But I do

>>714260609 (OP)
>thread almost reaches bump limit
>no one posted the link
that shit should be on the op

>>714264012
They make money from someone purchasing their software. If nobody can purchase their software because they cant comply with law,software distributor wont make money. Simple as

>>714260810
>the people telling the government to do something in favor of the people is... LE TYRANNY

>>714264000
It used to be a piece of shit nobody needs or wants to play, that makes 1% of the money it does now. I don't want to play you single player games, retarded, race mixed fucking mutt. And majority of people don't want to either. Nobody is stopping you from playing your bing-bing-wahoo in your basement on NES. Why must you fucking stick your tranny nose in something others enjoy and you don't? I don't come into your diaper stinking basement to hammer your discs and cartridges.
You just want to kill gaming, thanks for admitting.

>>714264060
How is giving your government ID number to the government that issued it doxing yourself?

We got like 3k sigs in about half a fucking hour, we got this in the bag.

>>714260810
You'd be working 6 days a week for 0 pay if it wasn't for governments making it illegal.

Corpos use this petition to dox "gamers" and find a way to have their rights taken. Sure, go ahead and sign. No matter the outcome this signature will end up biting you

>>714264115
You have 24 hours before we snap all your pasta in half.

>>714264130
the idea that
>corpos are against it
>maldy fagtree is against it
is enough

>>714264107
>second

>>714264131
You don't. You can't sell them or distribute them. You're allowed you use the game yourself that is about it.

>>714261415
Yeah instead you get shot while going Walmart

>>714264051
Yes they'll just decide to take a massive profit hit for the video game industry, especially software that is used multiple industries. You have very little grasp on what the software industry is like and thinking that the EU is going to carve out blanket software licensing changes for just one industry is absolutely mad

>>714263309
He will never admit to a fault, to him and other narcissists if he just explains to you the situation from his pov you'll understand he's completely in the right.

>>714263654
I don't use Spotify.
I never watched Netflix.
I own my gog games and my physical copies.

I'm not spending all my time doing this. Signing the petition took about 30 seconds.

>>714260609 (OP)
I shouldn't count our chickens before they hatch, but I only found out about this movement from a thread yesterday but I'm so inspired by Ross dedicated his life to this and thankful for Critical for offering support, and most of all, you europoors who will actually make the change in the world.

>>714263980
>Create problem solely to make it so it's harder to preserve your products in the future so you can scam and manipulate people
>People have enough of it, and start to demand you fix this problem
>This is somehow bad

You know that films, back in the start of the medium, used to be destroyed? If they were out of theaters, and no one watching, they'd be thrown out and destroyed. After all, film takes up space! That's a lot of storage! You can't blame these studios for not creating warehouses after warehouses to preserve them! Surely nothing could possibly be done to improve this situation.

>>714263152
we unironically win

>>714263294
then simply don't buy it? no one is demanding you to be a perpetual man-child

>>714264060
>the goverment doesnt have your full name, adress and phone number

>>714264130
it was more Ross used it because he reviewed it to finally spring off stop killing games but the issue is nobody but him gave a fuck about the Crew. If it was a game with a bigger fanbase it probably would have gone farther.

>>714264130

Anon. Stop with the closed minded thinking. Why do you always do this? It's not about a specific game. It's about ensuring money you spent on something is able to be retained in some capacity. It's about future proofing, and laying the ground work in how games are developed. This is about pro-consumer, and is about more than some random no shit game nobody wants to play.

>>714264173
This is why people think gamers are fucking retards

>>714260609 (OP)
START KILLING GAMES SIR DO NOT SIGN!!!!

>>714264060
>dox yourself to the government
This must be a meme

>The only political project in the entire history of humanity that managed to unite many different people with different languages and cultures without having to spill a single drop of blood
Kneel

>>714264223
Of course I can.
Do something.

>>714264060
>DOX YOURSELF
None of your information is public.
Holy shit just when I thought the IQ in here couldn't get any lower the floor just opens up.

>>714260609 (OP)
Just signed. How likely do you guys think it is that it'll pass? Not sure how much influence the publisher lobby has.

>>714264189
I'm gonna hand that merit to the UK. the brits knew how to revolt against the CEOs.

>>714264190
I think you're making up scenarios in your head again anon.
You should stop doing that.

The idea that government is literally incapable of doing anything positive no matter what has got to be one of the greatest psyops of all time.

>>714263152
Ubisoft shits blood

>>714264190
>shitposting and misinformation didnt work Schlomo
>we must use fearmongering now!

>>714264268
>without having to spill a single drop of blood
I'm pretty sure some jannies and corpo cocksuckers have or will neck themselves over this.

>>714264295
It won't pass in some ideal form but dev would be forced to make some concessions.

>>714264060
>DOX YOURSELF
Are gamers... being HUNTED?

>>714264305
America using the CIA liberally basically turned everyone against the concept of big government. That and their lawmaking being subverted by companies and AIPAC

How about Stop Pirating Games in return huh?
You want something from the devs why not help them out and request for harder punishment for pirating?

>>714264107
you from Onche?

>>714264060
>JUST DOX YOURSELF TO THE EU
>you are already a citizen with ID
>DOX
Thor is retarded, true, but (you) don't have to outdone him in that

>>714260609 (OP)
What the hell is this about?

>>714264259
Software distributors can make money without selling software? Wow

>>714264419
Manchildren are on their period

Can Americans with dual citizenship sign too?

Surprised the jannies didn't nuke this thread.
>>714264305
It is a psyop.
>people are blackpilled about gov'ts
>people don't take part in political life anymore
>the political sphere turns into the 2384647823th oligarchy
There's a reason if totalitarian countries spend so many resources in making black propaganda for populations in other nations.

>>714264264
>smokes marijuana
that's supposed to be a good thing?

>>714264107
>second

>>714263152
Nothing lol. It's gonna get rejected because of fraudelent votes + no one in the government gives a shit about this manbaby trash
>m-m-muh they're required to look into it!!! izda rulez!!
they're gonna fucking laugh the representative out of the room when he brings up SKG

>>714264295
Whether the EU will cook up something that will actually become a regulation remains to be seen, but the important thing right now is to get this petition inside the parliament so we bring attention to this issue and create a starting point for bigger and better things in the future.

So what happens when a million signatures are reached?

>EU: "Damn that sucks, someone should do something about it"

>corposhills are changing tactic to fearmongering
Now
They're really afraid, kek.

Alright you got mine /v/. Now what?

>>714263846
Just speak english almost every adult who isn't a tourist, or immigrant will understand you.

>>714264419
>"Stop Killing Games" is a consumer movement started to challenge the legality of publishers destroying video games they have sold to customers. An increasing number of video games are sold effectively as goods - with no stated expiration date - but designed to be completely unplayable as soon as support from the publisher ends. This practice is a form of planned obsolescence and is not only detrimental to customers, but makes preservation effectively impossible. Furthermore, the legality of this practice is largely untested in many countries.

>>714264390
Kekaroo
No

>>714264419
www.stopkillinggames.com

>>714264489
we wait.

>>714264497
See? That's pretty hypocritical

btw UK already responded to their petition and basically said "fuck off that how licensing works"
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/702074/

>>714264465
you sound agitated.

>>714264441
If you have EU country member citizenship yes

>>714262005
I literally don’t give a shit about some buttfucker in Ohio trooning out I just want my Bideo games

>>714264490
That chart is funny because the other 30% speak Finnish as a second language

>>714264419
tl;dr acclaimed mold man Ross Scott is backing a European Citizen's Initiative to prohibit publishers from rendering games with serverside components unplayable
/v/ found the stance of someone who enjoys video games controversial.

>>714264190
Of course, shlomo. Of course.

>>714264476
The EU made regs about fucking phone chargers, of all things, and that fucked corporations in the ass pretty hard. Games won't be an exception.

can someone make a #startkillinggamestudios petition so I can bait #stopkillinggames fags into signing them?

>>714264541
>devs should be alowed to scam their customers because people pirate games
I hope you're an actual dev, because I refuse to believe anyone else could be this retarded.

>>714264441
if one of the two citizenships it's from the EU, sure.

The EU won't even exist in 5 years. Russia+US+India+China are going to have a field day with the eurocucks once they bankrupt themselves because no oil lol