This game is so much funner than the first one yet it causes unimaginable amounts of seething all over the internet. It's incredible to witness. God bless Red Hook for sticking to their guns.

I love the gameplay loop
I love the beautiful art and animations
I love the roguelite progression
I love the "Just one more trip" addiction
I love how epic each trip feels despite that

This is it. This is Darkest Dungeon as it was meant to be.

>>714665035
The animation compeltely ruins it for me. The first game had soul in its hand drawn style. This just looks like a AAA company bought the IP and released a sequel without any idea of what made it so charming.

>>714665134
It's funny, cause when the first game was on its kickstarter campaign and I was saying how beautiful it looked, I remember people (not here, on other places) saying that it looked like shit, too static, the characters looked ridiculous, etc.
Now Darkest Dungeon 2 comes out, looks even better, but the fans of the first one tend to hate it because it looks too advanced.
Also, R.I.P., Wayne June, he really is so much of this game.

>>714665329
>because it looks too advanced.
They're wobbling and shaking like some autistic highschooler doing idle animations irl. It's forced

>>714665432
>Forced Animation
lol

I like 1 better but 2 is good too

>>714664962 (OP)
Did they ever add the abomination? Was my favorite class from the first game.

>>714664962 (OP)
So much fun everybody dropped it like a bag of shit.

Oh yeah, baby. This run is MINE.

>>714667162
Everybody got filtered, it seems.

QRD? I haven't played either.

>>714664962 (OP)
Why did they do it? They were set for life with sales from the first game, and Timmy paid for the second game anyway.

Is Black Reliquary done yet?

>>714668729
Extra money is always handy.

>>714668146
you are a very special boy

>>714668623
1 is a rng dungeon crawler where you send characters you've grinded with for hours only for them to get critted 4 times in a row and fucking die of bleed
2 is a roguelike with better combat admittedly but pretty much nothing like the first game, you'll lose a run 2 hours in in 2 minutes for the same bullshit reason as the first, without consequences, only the two hours of your life you'll desperately want back

1>2
they're both fun and cool looking

>>714665134
>high quality animations are... LE SOULLESS
I don't even like dd2 that much but seriously kys.

>>714667074
yeah he was added half a year ago

>70% subway surfer gameplay with almost zero purpose
>5% waiting for stupid animations to finish so you can click the fucking button to continue
>25% actual combat gameplay

what were they thinking?

I love DD2 no matter how much it kicks my ass
Very satisfying game
In fact, I may be the biggest DD2 fan on /v/
My stats and achievements
Need to get to the Kingdom DLCs one of these days

>>714665432
I get what you mean but I really disagree that it applies to DD2 just looking at the webm here >>714665035

t. Never played the game but liked the first DD

>>714669205
Oh neat. I will "sample" the game and judge it myself when I get a chance.

>>714665035
The transitions when you pick the attack before you select the target are really cool

>>714664962 (OP)
They sold out though? They clearly wanted out of their mistake.

>>714669656
im in the same situation as you
i feel like the webm demonstrates it decently, but im pretty sure ive seen webms of DD2 where some idle animations were much more "active"

>>714669873
Cope

>>714669956
Yeah they coped by selling to another corp.

I loved the first game because it was essentially an xcom game where party and settlement management with permanent progression was a very important part of the core loop. The sequel is nothing like it.

>>714668623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlRBzoKN4NY
Game with a narrator so good he carried the whole thing on his back.

>>714670009
>They clearly wanted out
>Which is why they've released 2 free DLCs with another one coming
Cope

>>714669651
Would you say you're having a blast?

>>714670132
That's not them anymore though?

>>714670064
The XCom style stuff doesn't make sense to me when each different class is obviously a unique character. Having a bunch of different Lepers recruited with more on the docket feels silly. Add to that the failure state forcing you to go get new heroes and level them up and I just thought it was a pretty unsatisfying system.

>>714670186
huh what u mean? Do you not understand how company acquisitions work?

>>714664962 (OP)
It's ok-ish but only holds up if you're a big fan. And it was carried by Wayne June RIP
As it stands it's not worth it honestly.

>>714664962 (OP)
>>714665035
[AMOROUS]
Keep shilling, my love.

>>714668729
>They were set for life with sales from the first game
huh?

>>714664962 (OP)
>filter

You literally cannot lose this game, it's a meta progression bullshit.

>>714665134
Holy shit, shut the fuck up. Wow. I thought you contrarians didn't actually exist. DD2 has a lot of issues, but the graphics/artstyle is not one of them. It looks fantastic.

>>714665035
>bumps his carriage into a pile of leafs to get some bread

yeah...

>>714664962 (OP)
is the new content worth it? I stopped playing right before crusader got added.

i think they were kinda cookin with the first one though

>>714664962 (OP)
I recently got the game during the summer sale after avoiding it because of the bad press:
People are WAY too harsh on it. Maybe it was different at release, but in its current state it has better gameplay than DD1 but a worse, I dunno how to put it, metagame? I do prefer the whole persistent manor in DD1, having a stable of heroes and slowly upgrading over time vs the roguelike mode of DD2. However, DD2's gameplay is much better. DD1 is a great game but it actually got worse over time because they kept adding in new systems and radically changing things in a game that wasn't designed for it. Even back at release it was shaky, by the end it was downright patchwork.
DD2, in its current state (again I only got it recently) feels more coherent in the gameplay design of the heroes. They also are able to make the heroes more complex.

ANOTHER BIG CRITCISM THOUGH, ONE THEY DESERVE TO GET SHIT FOR, IS MAKING HEROES LIKE THE CRUSADER DLC. HE WAS THE FACE OF THE GAME. THEY KNEW EVERYONE WANTED HIM. MAKING HIM DLC IS GAY AS FUCK. Also not including fan favorites like the Houndmaster or Bounty Hunter and instead adding in some useless as Vagrant girl or w/e. Like come on.

I've dropped DD1 three separate times.
It's unplayable unless you have a wiki open and the grinding is way too much for a "purposely fuck you" game.

Distilling the game down to Just Combat was a cute idea, but removing the Entire Rest of the Game was a bad idea.

>>714671460
DD2 is much easier. Like 14-15% of people have beat the final boss. DD2 basically feels like "Holy shit this impossible" the first time you fight a boss, then you do another run with knowledge of what the boss is like and you go "Oh, actually that wasn't too bad"
And then you also get enough meta progression that your heroes are just stronger. There are optional hard modes in the game though.

>>714671492
Why are you randomly capitalizing words?

>>714664962 (OP)
>DD1 has the Manor which is a far more engaging and fun system
>DD2 has better combat which is one the game is mainly
Why couldn't we get DD1 with DD2's graphics/combat? It would be perfect. I can't go back to DD1 because the combat is so much worse, but DD2 is just boring once you get all of the meta buffs.
I have not tried Kingdoms, are they worth it?

>>714671593
I can do what I want mother fucker

>>714671460
DD2 has no grinding beyond metaprogression, but I think it's a million times more satisfying. I don't know this for a fact, but I imagine you can beat the first few levels without any metaprogression, too. I didn't do that, though, cause I'm a scrub.

>>714668729
I forgot this game game existed for the longest time because of this

>>714671639
Why do you want to randomly capitalize words?

>>714671637
I think the hamlet is boring

>>714671659
The biggest issue with DD2's metaprogression is the way you unlock skills.
>Almost all heroes come with a set of skills that just do not work together
>Their paths are easily accessible and you're missing half the skills for them
>Have to take them on a run, hit up as many shrines as possible, and then after that they feel like a complete character
I love basically everyone's skill sets, but I would have much rather spent candles or something to get their skills. Jester and Flagellant, for example, are both fucking worthless without shrines. ALL OF JESTER'S PATHS RELY ON ENCORE OR FINALE AND HE DOES NOT START WITH EITHER. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING WITH THAT?

>>714664962 (OP)
The relashionship system killed it for me.

>thats a cool build youve been setting up for the past two hours, my dude. How about i fucking ruin it because fuck you?

>>714671069

>>714671746
Because I'm cool and sexy and I don't have to adhere to your rules

>>714664962 (OP)
If there was anyone who was on the fence about the game cause of the reviews, I'd say it is worth getting on sale. I beat the final boss with 44 hours played and I still want to play more. The game is fun. It is not a straight up upgrade to DD1, but if you like roguelikes, turn based combat, or just great atmosphere/writing you'll enjoy it.

It also always feels incredible when a hero goes resolute.

Its so good even the devs gave up on the main game and started delevoping a side campaign, lmao

>>714671768
Totally not artificially padding playtime so you can only experience the character the way it was meant to be played after an arbitrary period of grinding.

The Chinese hate this game.

>>714671787
Is the relationship system that hard for you? After my first 2 or 3 runs getting a negative relationship was very rare for me. It would take serious bad luck to get negative relations and then not have enough items at the inn to just make them at least get to neutral. I'd actually argue it is the opposite: Relationships kinda ruin the game by making it too easy.

Also Dismas/Renauld had a mother fucking 3-way.

>>714671863
Based DD2bro. I'm glad I'm not alone.

>>714671886
The main campaign is complete, retard. It's a satisfying 5 acts, plus some extra autistic stuff (or easy mode) with the flames but I don't bother with that.

>>714671994
It certainly was much more bipolar at launch

>>714671994
I like the relationships, but I think that they're a barrier to big DD1 fans because they are very unassuming at first but they are crucial.

At the start of each campaign you basically need to manage that shit very carefully. The relationship improvers are the best purchases at the inns every time.

I think it's fun, though. Sometimes powering through with a couple of bad relatioships, or, of course, building a party of people that all like each other, is satisfying as hell.

>>714671994
Not hard, just annoying.
Getting suddenly punished for using skills that i built my entire run around is the very opposite of fun.
Its the one thing that keeps me from reinstalling it.

>>714672135
>The relationship improvers are the best purchases at the inns every time.
This is part of what killed the game for me. There are so many blatantly obvious Correct Options. Very boring.

I like DD2 a lot but I am purposefully always one patch behind so I'm at the first Kingdom campaign right now and will wait for the third one before I move onto the second. It takes these guys a while to balance shit properly.

>>714664962 (OP)
I played it quite a bit and really enjoyed it, the problem is longevity. Kingdoms is absolute garbage and the confessions are straight up annoying after you've done them enough times. There are so many parties that can clear the map up to the boss and then just get fucked because you need to prepare for the boss specifically. I don't technically need to beat the boss since I've done everything but it still just feels like such horrible game design I don't even want to bother anymore.

Also the relationship system is one of the worst game systems I've ever encountered.

>>714672108
Yeah I did not play at release. That I fully admit. If the game was fucked up at launch I cannot speak for that.

>>714672175
I can understand that, but generally negative relationships don't just pop up out of nowhere. Sometimes one guy is a massive dick and just keeps insulting one other guy, but most of the time you can at least avoid negative relationships by giving people some whisky. However, I think my second run did end up with everyone hating one another and the game was unplayable trash.

>>714672201
... you're annoyed that the hard game is hard? Bro, of course every battle needs proper prep & planning - that's gaming 101. I mean, what the fuck were you doing, clicking random shit & watching the pretty colors?

>>714672335
Nah, he has a point. The confession bosses generally necessitate a certain team combo that limits creativity. They are not hard, I beat every single one of them on my 2nd try. The first was to learn what I needed, second was to beat them.

Some party compositions are harder than others, but I won with Duelist + Hellion + Occultist + Runaway (In that order) so I'm pretty sure they're all doable, at least without flame nonsense.

>>714671921
kek

BRING BACK THE HOUNDMASTER

>>714672920

>>714671921
Baaased.

what dlcs are worth getting?

>>714673095
Binding Blade is definitely worth it. Second one is cool if you like Abom.
On sale both are decent, I'd not buy either if they weren't on sale.

Koreans love it, though

>"Hmm... today I got an idea for X team comp!"
>Start run
>Hero comp: 50% chance for -1 stress in the warrens after beating the boss. -15% max hp -15% stress resistance -15% disease resistance
>Hero 2: +1% chance of positive relationship. 15% chance of getting blind, weak, and vulnerable at the start of every turn
Every time I wanna run a certain hero comp they have the worst fucking quirks, meanwhile the jackass Abom has
>GIGACHAD: +25% MAX HP +25% DAMAGE
>KIND OF A DICK: -1% CHANCE OF POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP

>>714673382
That is pretty much me. Every time people have negative banter I think to myself "Dude, quit being an asshole"

>>714664962 (OP)
>Translation:
>please come play our game. we even added mod support which we said we wouldn't add because no one bought the game
LMAO

>>714673673
It has 20k reviews, that means it has sold pretty well. They also got a check from Timmy for it being epic exclusive for a year. I think they are doing fine.
However, the origin pack mostly sucks. Like only a few of the skins actually look good.

>>714673740
Aren't those just the skins from the backstories? Been a while, but I just did the Crusader recently and I'm pretty sure that's what it is. I'm surprised they just added those now. I figured they'd be the last reward at the mountain.

>Taunts the enemy
>Heals himself
>Stress heals himself
>Crit with chop for 30 damage
>Is the only hero who faces right in the Shine of Reflection, actually facing his past.
This guy is an absolute gigachad and I am tired of everyone just talking about Crusader.

>>714673787
Yeah they are. They clearly were not made for actual gameplay and got added later as a little bonus which is cool and all since it is free, but a lot of them look bad. Like the Gravewarden looks terrible, or the Jester, or Leper, or Flagellant, etc etc.

>>714673824
>*Misses*

I beat it. It's just meh. My biggest gripe with it is just the general theme of the Loathing. The Darkest Dungeon in the original game was something genuinely macabre and twisted. Loathing was like some Cenobite shit mixed with Blizzard designs. OOO, BLUE FLAMES AND DARK GREY METAL. SCARY! And it was so fucking repetitive.

>>714673924
>*Hits enemy with mark to ignore blind*
>*Uses reflection to remove blind, stress heal, and give himself debuff resistance*
>*Plays Tempest that has natural debuff resistance anyways*
Just kidding, that is obviously his main weakness. He either relies on marks or is self sufficient but slow. He also needs movement resistance. But he is probably my favorite hero flavor wise. I love the whole poet-king archetype.

I simply get way more catharsis and joy out of the second one than the first one. I think it's a way better designed package that fits well together.
Having said that, I have still not played Kingdoms.

>>714673824
He is brown.

>>714674210
A much more severe affliction than having leprosy

>>714674287
True.

>>714674210
It is a bit cringe they made him appear straight up black. He doesn't even come across as middle eastern. He is based off of King Baldwin who was white. I understand DD just uses real life for references but I would have just made him a similar skin color to Occultist or perhaps a bit lighter.
He is still a based nigga though.

>>714674210
Arguably worse. He's sub-saharan African.

>>714669651
What are the two confessions you have not died on?

>>714673824
>Other heroes freak out and yell when they don't get healed when someone else does
>Leper just goes *Shakes Head*

>>714664962 (OP)
>funner
Actually kys

After I beat the final boss should I do kingdoms or just random confession bosses?

>>714676801
I unlocked Crusader and Beast before I did Kingdoms. Didn't bother replaying level 5, though.

>>714664962 (OP)
Nah I'll wait for the real Darkest Dungeon 2's release.

>>714677479
Whatever this is, it's cringe

>>714673673
I don't like most of the skins.

>>714677821
It's not the skins you dislike, it's the characters.

>>714677479
>LE FAT TITS AND FEMBOYS
Boring coomer dogshit

>>714677479
cringe

>>714665035
this looks so cool im gonna buy this shit right now

>>714678326
The animations are definitely one of the best parts of the game.

>>714678326
It's hard as balls and you're gonna party wipe 90% of the time you meet that dumb fish. Don't do it.

>>714678059
No, I enjoy alot of them: grave robber, plague doctor, occultist, duelist, leper
love the runaway, higwayman, jester, vestal, flagellant, crusader, abomination
I just really don't like those origin looks for most of them, I would go as far as they suck.

>>714678446
The fish is the hardest boss other than the collector. Just don't bother with him.

>>714673673
>mod support
really? DD1 had a shit ton of mods, mostly because how easy it is to replace assets I guess. last I checked all DD2 had were some number tweaks

>>714677648
>>714678206
>>714678260
shitters filtered by the prep round.

>>714679051
Modding for DD2 is extraordinarily difficult with how good the models and animations look

>>714679051
They have added support to add custom characters but it is debatable whether it would be of much use it would be since the task of making custom animations would still be burdensome.

It's fun

I really liked DD1 (even with its issues) but I seriously have zero desire to try DD2. I don't even know why.

>>714664962 (OP)
ADD THE KINGDOMS ENEMIES TO NORMAL MODE YOU SHITS

>>714680870
This
Kingdom is no fun

>>714671280
They put Crusader in? I thought the lead dev was still assblasted that he was the most popular character.

>>714681215
He's been in the game for like two years now

>>714671824
But that's retarded and creepy.

I just got my first hero killed on my Kingdoms run, fuck this

>>714681215
I don't think that is true lmao. They marketed with the crusader heavily. They saved him for DLC the same reason Capcom saves Akuma and Sagat for DLC: Guaranteed revenue post launch. It is scummy but not based on any schizo shit lol.

>>714681574
People always need to have woke conspiracies for everything

I think the running over stuff is kinda dumb

is this just a blatant shill campaign or is the game good now? last i heard it was fucking dogshit

>>714682234
I don't know, I am not OP but all I can say is I bought the game during the steam summer sale and it is fun. My overall thoughts are I miss the hamlet but I like the new gameplay/animations more. It seems appropriately priced when on sale, but I also hate that Crusader is DLC and not part of the base roster. Also the bounty hunter being a gimmick instead of hero is lame and gay too.

>>714677479
>le fat tits and femboys
True Darkest Dungeon spirit.

>>714664962 (OP)
How does this compare to 1? I want to like it but it's too difficult, will I have an easier time with this?

>>714682234
Shill campaign, but it's definitely in a better spot
Still stupid, but better

>>714682234
There's been people telling you the game is actually fun from the start, but you chose to listen to the people who hate it instead. Up to you once again.

>>714682234
It's been fun ever since I played it, which was shortly before the Crusader DLC. So that's years ago.

>>714682738
In the short term, it's as difficult. However, you don't lose insane amounts of progress with losses. It's more like a traditional roguelike only it has a chapter select.

>>714664962 (OP)
They need to add virtue/affliction back right now meltdown isn't that bad, plus make DoT and stress continue ticking after finishing a combat.

I feel like Darkest Dungeon was so close to being the greatest game. But the battle system and exploration system feels so bare bones. I would rather those have been completely different.

>>714668804
theyre taking forever for the final update because they chose to chase after a huge dd modding technological breakthrough in the proccess

>>714683356
Virtues and afflictions are the biggest thing I miss from DD1 other than the characters and enemies. Everything else I don't miss. Fuck the Hamlet.

>>714683356
Yeah removing Virtue/Affliction was one of the stupidest things they did.

>>714664962 (OP)
boring trash

Recommend me a party composition for the final boss

>>714679289
Yeah I bet you know all about prep

Does DD2 have a permadeath mode like the first game? I'll pick it up if it does, and won't if not

>>714684270
There was a non-permadeath mode? When a character dies, they're dead, that's all there is to it.

>>714684270
You mean a fail state like stygian/blood moon? Not in the main game where it's your standard roguelite metaprogression slop where you're expected to keep doing runs and become stronger through unlocks for subsequent runs.
In the Kingdoms side mode, there is a fail state if you lose too many inns.

>>714684270
Kingdoms if you want to not have tun that much

>>714671659
>DD2 has no grinding beyond metaprogression,
>grinding
>metaprogression

...thats literally grinding and in the worst way possible

>>714683849
Just make sure you can hit both front and back on as many characters as possible and have a varied selection of moves so you aren't forced to skip turns
>>714684270
Every mode is permadeath

>>714664962 (OP)
I didn't enjoy it. But thats probably because I liked building up the hamlet and gradually progressing in the first game.

The roguelike thing where you do a run and its win or you lose everything wasn't that fun to me in 2.

>>714685481
Nah, the hamlet shit sucks way more

>>714685704
>Just make sure you can hit both front and back on as many characters as possible and have a varied selection of moves so you aren't forced to skip turns
Yeah if it were that fucking easy I wouldn't be asking

eh I'll wait til it's $5-10
I don't like the direction they've taken it.
They could have leaned more heavily into Lovecraft but in its current state it looks and feels nothing like Lovecraft.
And the weird couple gay relationship shit is a no from me dawg

>>714684270
Enemies are so cucked in DD2 that dying only happens if go for a torch.

>>714686441
Feels pretty Lovecraftian to me, and I appreciate that the paranoia can become a factor now with relationships

>>714671432
DD2 lost me when I couldn't collect artifacts, curios, and heirlooms to upgrade the hamlet. The light management elements is what kept me in DD1 even through the insane game play changes from the expansions. Goes to show that people get in to a game for different reasons, and small gameplay elements not making a return can (and do) make or break a sequel for players.

>>714664962 (OP)
Based OP. I picked up the game again and played for like 5 hours straight last night doing a beastmen kingdom run. The steward beta has some really good changes. Love that you can sell stuff and the changes to runaway, hopefully the leper and hellion updates are good too because they're two of my favorites. But yeah, curious what people who actually play DD2 think about Kingdoms. Are they going to reuse DD1 lines now that Wayne passed?

>>714669461
None of that is true. There's even a sped up travel and combat animation option. The entire game is constant fighting. Have you played Kingdoms?

>>714687787
I haven't gotten to Kingdoms yet, I'm still leveling Crusader up. Does Kingdoms chapter 2 have unique Wayne lines?

>>714679289
I don't even know what that means

>>714664962 (OP)
Now that you mention it, it's true. It gets all the hate, why? Haven't played neither, was told it's too grindy and repetitive.

>>714665035
Call me a graphicsfag but I just can't go back to the first game with how good the second one looks. And the combat is much better too.

It's still silly to me that there are no dungeons in the Darkest DUNGEON game, though.

>>714687787
They already announced they won't reuse lines for new content and they won't do AI of his voice, so the next parts of Kingdoms are just going to have generic barks and narration.

>>714665035
I must confess I never got the second one simply because the graphics/animations look bad compared to the first. Something about the first one just works even if its simple.

>>714688501
The unironic non shitposter answer is that though the game is a sequel and also a Lovecraftian roguelite that shares characters, motifs and general gameplay concepts, the truth is that the designers wanted to make an entirely different game in many different ways. A lot changes mechanically to try to hit the same notes on a completely different angle.

What this means is that you're gonna find people that like the first game and not the second, and even some people like me that much prefer the second. They are very different games under the hood.

>>714688042
Yeah theres some new dialogue about the witches. Doesn't feel like a lot though. I feel like I heard one of the devs say that Wayne took a long time to send back lines, but looking back knowing he was sick, feels bad. The third chapter is going to be the bloodsuckers, so they could reuse Crimson Court lines. Red Hook was very clear about not using AI in the future

>>714688501
It being an epic exclusive at launch made a lot of people upset, but it was mostly the changes the game made to the combat and presentation. It was rough at the beginning though, but not terrible. The game has long surpassed DD1 though

>>714689047
To me, it's the opposite. DD 2 looks like my memory of DD 1 from a decade ago. I try going back to the first one and it looks like a Newsground parody of DD 2.

>>714689081
I see. That's a stupid way to make part 2. Same with salt and sacrifice. I'd wager it's objectively stupid to go this route.
I might try Dd2, I've read up the mechanics and it seems really well made.
>>714689198
>epic
Understood
>surpassed
In sales? As epic exclusive?

>>714689198
I see.
Yeah, guess it will just be generic barks, then.

Even worse is new heroes. How are you gonna do new shrines without Wayne? Can't be done.

>>714689451
It's stupid but it benefits me. This is what I wanted the first game to be.

And that anon means in quality. DD1 is at 6 milly and DD2 only cracked a milly a few months ago.

>>714689329
Maybe it feels different when played because everything people see looks like that video and comes off bad compared to the style of the first.

>>714689621
Nah, I liked the style when I was watching videos of the EA (I don't play EA games). Just a preference thing, I guess.

>>714689552
6 million sold? Awesome. That looks like it was made by four people. Do you have experience with video game music?

DD2 is alright as a game but the whole reason people hated it is that it isn't really DD2, so naturally people who wanted DD1, but better, got angry about what was delivered instead. It's Red Hooks own fault for not having the balls to just make a new game outright.

>>714674847
Third and fourth level. I forget what they're called.

I must have lost at least 6 runs each on The second and fourth level, though. Those were brutal to me.

I heard the third boss used to be the hardest but they patched it so that he's reasonable by the time I got to him.

I also like 2 more than 1 and that's exactly why I don't like the Kingdom mode

>>714671145
You can't lose 1 either, by that logic.

Complaining about the relationship system is like complaining about virtues and afflictions or quirks. Those kinds of storytelling mechanics are a big part of the appeal to me. And getting to the mountain with a fully broed out campaign watching each other's backs is cathartic as fuck.

>>714674067
>Patreon for AIslop

>>714664962 (OP)
>A sequel so bad it even killed the narrator

>>714690409
What if you run out of money to hire goons? The way I see it, there's no player either, as the group is constantly switching members.

>>714664962 (OP)
I seethe over the first one because it punishes you directly for progressing and essentially rewards you for playing with unupgraded unhealed troops and never going deeper into the castle.
Doubt the sequel could fuck up game design worse than that

>>714681095
I was pretty disappointed. Really the one large-ish thing I wish they'd do is just make a new confessions mode boss that's more "General", because even though I prefer DD2 I do agree with the complaints that too many of the confessions bosses heavily favor certain heroes/party compositions/etc and I'd like to have some general slab of HP so I can random pick parties and shit with less fear of being raped at the end

ADMITTEDLY there's a degree of git gud because you can take a random party comp and then use janky skills to shore up weaknesses and maybe when they're done with their big skill rebalance that'll be a more viable option. Also they need to buff the fuck out of the vestal because Jesus Christ. I get that they're probably mad at everyone always taking vestals foreverially delitized in DD1 but come the fuck on

Does this game even have a Darkest Dungeon at the end?

>>714691603
No. You just climb a mountain and kill the physical incarnations of a crazy murderers mental struggles.

>>714691603
No john, you are the darkest dungeon (literally) (factually) (canon)

>>714691530
Yes, the second one does not have that issue at all lol

>>714670186
Retard.

>>714674067
>repetitive
That's the reason I skipped both games.

>>714664962 (OP)
>funner
You have to be 18 to post here

>>714671552
>DD2 is much easier.
Only when you know exactly what to do. It's much harder before then, and was much harder even when you DID know what to do during early access. New plebs won't know the true horrors of the un-triple nerfed LIMERENCE.

>>714673003
It just won't be the same without new Academic lines to commemorate it...

>>714677479
Go away, Spurp.

>>714665035
>>714664962 (OP)
Would love to play it unfortunately they made every single hero gay with that ''amorous'' shit and that turns me away from it 100%, ruins any chance of atmosphere.

no fawn no buy

>>714693000
what

>>714693108
He's crying that your dudes can RNG get turned gay in one of your runs if the relationship system lands just right

>>714693108
amorous means sexual desire, and every character can get horny for each other, which means all the heroes I liked in the first game are now faggots. That excludes me from ever playing it because faggots are gay.

>>714664962 (OP)
I have 300 hours on first game and I keep it perma installed.
Don't want to even bother buying the second game on sales lmao, Darkest dungeon without the dungeons what a great idea.

>>714693274
They should make same sex attraction impossible or like less than 1% possibility.

>>714693379
>>714693540
You're autistic
The first game can turn heroes into nymphomaniacs, degenerates/deviants or necromaniacs
It's RNG and it's temporary

>>714693274
>>714693379
That's extremely stupid but you do you. Not my problem.

finished the prologue and then went on my first adventure. tried to fight the boss in the tangle i think it was called and he annihilated me. gonna play some more in a little bit

>>714694007
In general, you shouldn't fight bosses if it's your first area. The tangle boss is the second hardest from the lair bosses, also.

>>714694159
yeah he was hardcore. i tried to hit the vine in the back but i dont think it had any effect. also i couldnt find the status it got from hitting it in the book.

>>714673673
This is like the embodiment of how much Red Hook didn't even understand why DD succeed.
The single page comics for each hero were the only piece of backstory they needed, it was subtle enough to make the characters feel real without ever giving them too much narrative importance because at the end of the day, they are just cloned troops you send to the slaughter endlessly.
Giving them all origin stories and deep lore goes against the entire lovecraftian essence of mystery and unknown the first game aimed for.

>>714694458
Hitting the vine in the back delays the massive dmg move that it casts on two of your heroes

>>714693829
>>714693957
Not (very) autistic, more I have standards and a full plate as it is, if ever the itch to play it (because everything else looks awesome) inclines me to lower my standards I'm pretty sure I can reverse engineer an already existing mod that changes the text in game anyway, and remove amorous all together. But until then it's bottom of the Wishlist and Red Hook misses out on a cheerleader because they made a retarded decision.

And the Brothel in DD1 was traditionally coded, as in men fucking women, laundry day event had prostitutes/bar wenches cleaning the sheets, and the Deviant Tastes Quirk implies there's a hetero average. Lesbians don't count if you actually understand sexuality as well so fuck off if you wanna try to counter that with lodging the female heroes there, plus there were probably one or two manwhores they kept around to hold Hellion while she cries or play doctor w/PD.

>>714695014
nobody cares. you have no interest in the game so you can leave the thread

>>714695014
They didn't make a retarded decision, you're just autistic.

Ha, fags have one more bump.

The usual complaints this board has about the game are genuinely retarded

>>714664962 (OP)
Troon game. KYS>>714665035

>>714695014
That is not even a big deal. You are just a third world monkey and/or a self proclaimed anti woke retard and in either case you won't be missed in this thread or anywhere else.

>>714695241
I love DD2
The valid complaints are:
>Crusader is DLC
>Not all characters from the first game in general
>The meta progression especially with shrines
>Rather than improving virtues and afflictions they just threw the baby out with the bathwater
>No dungeons in a game called Darkest Dungeon
That's pretty much it

>>714695265
Huh?

The art and animations are liquid dogshit and it has faggotry in it. Hard pass, hope the devs go out of business.

>>714689451
Epic exclusive

>>714697851
Retard

>>714664962 (OP)
the game has a massive design problem with permadeath, 4 man party and its roguelike nature
lack of build variety and limited power scaling are most likely caused by this issue

>>714665035
>no death animation or corpse
l m a o

>>714674210
holy shit my ancestor...

>>714691585
I think they made changes to how stuff like fire works and vestal overall. I used to always use her in the backline but I've been running her in the second position and had some good runs. Use protect and stun to help your team. I found her and Abom on the unchained path can stack regen heals and she's tankier than pd or occ so she can take some damage. I did all the confession bosses with her using seraph too. She's fine, maybe buff some of the frontline buffs, and the cool down on her main heal hurt bad

>>714664962 (OP)
>In battle, gameplay no longer includes any Accuracy component
immediately bought

>>714674464
This, the origins skin is non-canon, fuck them.

>>714668729
BHVR hasn't even done anything with it for a year. Not even cool cosmetics for DBD

Occultist bros we're so fucking back with these changes.
I'm going to miss the incision plague doctor though

>>714698776
Oh, yeah, there's another thing I don't miss.

>>714699412
>I don't miss.

>>714698776
>enemies spam the shit out of dodge and blind so you end up missing just as many attacks as in DD1.

>>714698938
It's been almost a year
Jesus

>>714671432
bounty hunter is in the game. there's just some gimmick where you have to hire him at an inn (by clicking at his poster). he isn't always available.

>>714671552
>DD2 is much easier. Like 14-15% of people have beat the final boss.
I only beat the final boss once, and that was by extreme luck. Hellion had some quirk where enemies hitting her get 6 poison damage, so she didn't need to attack and only focused on staying alive. she maxed out stress four times and got resolute every single time, it was actually kind of epic.

>>714700438
Pretty sure he's available whenever now. Or maybe it's just for kingdoms? No career paths tho

>>714664962 (OP)
>Darkest dungeon
>Look inside
>No dungeons

What did they mean by this?

Should've called it longest road or darkest road or something else.

>>714671787
a few months ago they changed the system so negative relations don't force skills on you that you don't want to use

>>714701307
birbie

What's the modding scene look like?

>>714673824
I like him as a character, but he's too immobile and unreliable with his blind mechanic. I hope they don't fuck up his rework.

>>714702218
His immobility is an issue yeah, but blind can be handled in plenty of ways. He still hits harder than anyone else in the game.

>>714702161
not as good as it should be yet. modders just got the ability to make actual skins not too long ago.

>>714695014
Fuck off then. We don't need your incel ass here.

>>714700438
Doesn't he go away after the next route though?

>>714702827
There's nothing wrong with despising faggotry in all its forms. The relationship system in general is ass, they ought to redesign or abandon it entirely.

>>714702218
>>714702465
He is getting a rework? I really like him. Tempest does a fuckload of damage with some set up. All you need is mark on the enemy to negate blind and he naturally has higher debuff resistance in tempest so he starts to just resist his own blind then he is good.

>>714664962 (OP)
Honestly the biggest thing I didn't like about it was how losses didn't really feel too big of a deal.
If your party gets wiped in 2 you just start up a new run
But in 1 a party wipe meant you most likely lost at least 2 of your big hitters for good.
There was no real sense of risk, consequence or attachment to the characters.
But Getting both Dismas and Reynauld to the end was kino as fuck.

>>714664962 (OP)
Mogged by the Black Reliquary.

>>714702971
Yeah, if you're doing Confessions and not Kingdoms, anyway. In Kingdoms he's a full on character same as everyone else. In Confessions the whole point of him is being a much more powerful character than the standard champions are, that gives you a temporary advantage in the region you hire him in.

>>714703074
Yeah. The entire problem with DD2 is that it isn't really a follow up to DD1, Red Hook could've avoided all the negative feedback and backlash if they just made a new game outright and didn't attach it to the DD world and characters.

>>714703017
You're a miserable incel what do you know?

>>714664962 (OP)
>literal dogshit that nobody likes except you
>dude I don't just have shit taste, more like everyone else got filtered lmoa
this is always the strangest cope
like some actual mental illness in play

>Better gameplay
>Better graphics/art
>Better animations
>Great music
>Great writing
>Great voice acting
>...but it's a roguelike now so all of the tension and risk/reward is gone because runs are so short that if you lose you just do a new run
>Only time there is any tension is if you're trying to get the one achievement for getting all the memories on a group of heroes
Maaaaan. DD2 is such a weird instance. The gameplay is so good and expanded to the point that I don't want to go back to DD1. However, the roguelike nature of DD2 really is just not conducive to the tone of the series. I also think they really didn't even do the roguelike part justice because each run is similar. There are not enough weird events/runwide buffs you can get, and there aren't really enough unlocks. I mean yeah, unlocking every skill on every hero takes a while but aside from that once you beat the final boss you're just kinda playing to play, which yes a fun video game should do that (and I did go through the game fully twice) but I wanted more to unlock.

I did not care for le epic dudebro duo Dismas and Reynauld

>>714677479
Me too

>>714694458
here are some dreaming general tips from a redditor

>>714704259
Agreed. There really isn't enough variety in a given run and that fucks up the game quite badly. On top of that there's no long term persistent rewards or building up a roster (aside from memories shit, which is complete jank) the way there was in DD1 so it's like you get the worst of both worlds in DD2.

>>714704752
my own best noob tip for the general fight is to never attack the root thing behind the general in the first round (it will only do you harm and no good), and from round 2 onwards you generally want to attack the root twice every round.

The amount of corpo shillng and dickriding in this thread is uncanny. It's so desperate, it's like Red Hook got told to make sales happen by the Steam Sale or be closed up.

Face it Bourassa, you struck gold then failed trying to follow it up. The sooner you admit it and deliver what the fans actually wanted, the sooner you can own your company again.

>>714705143

>>714705143
>Some posts are praising the game
>Some are talking shit
>Most seem to agree the game has better gameplay/art but the rogue like nature is not good
THE SHILLS HELP ME THE SHILLS ARE HERE THE SHILLS ARE IN THE WALLS THEY'RE EVERYWHERE SHILLS IN MY DREAMS SHILLS IN MY GIRLFRIEND HELP ME

>>714665134
>WHY OH WHY DOESNT IT LOOK LIKE A CHIBI IPAD GAME ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!! SAVE ME HITLER!!!!!!!!
you people are unbelievable

>>714689047
how is it bad? i dont understand this. its literally about as faithful of an adaptation of the originals 2D style over to 3D as you can get. the original looked rather cheap with just a bunch of png's being being puppeteered.

>>714705276
Eh not that guy but there really are shills on this board, for months WoW barely got any threads and when it did, maybe a few posts before it fell off the board. Then a patch and their new expansion advertising starts to be pushed and all of a sudden there are like 4-5 WoW threads in the catalogue every day which are somehow reaching bump limit.

>>714705143
You are MISERABLE.

>>714665035
DD2 is good?!

>>714690093
i think they were much more ballsy to have experimented with the formula and create something truly unique and novel rather than just rehash the exact same game again but 3D

>>714705506
I have not seen a DD2 thread in a while. It sounds like one person decided to talk about it and so everyone is here to give their thoughts. The game has changed a lot since release but still has some of its fundamental flaws. Makes for a lot to talk about.

>>714665134
>The animation compeltely ruins it for me.
This. I hate when games have a higher budget that an Atari. I WANT my games to look like shit.

>>714702465
you can handle blinds sure, but I don't find using reflect to be very good value considering leper is so slow that he will likely go last in the following round.

>>714664962 (OP)
Can I play this with a controller. Played the first one ten years ago but I'm old now and mouse and keyboard gives me wrist pain

>>714690093
I mean the thing is that all of the DD parts of DD2 are fantastic. Narrator, art, classes, world, basic game systems, etc. It is just the fact that it is a fucking roguelike. Saying "just make a new game" doesn't really work when so much of what is great about DD2 is built upon from DD1.

I wish they just fucking made a hamlet for Kingdoms. That feels like them just being stubborn.

all the anons ITT claiming the new game somehow has "bad animations" i just cannot genuinely understand. you cannot be serious. it has to be some kind of terminal contrarianism. is gif related the supposed superior animation in question? please help me understand

>>714705751
There are consumables to remove blind and mark makes it so he ignores blind (but still consumes it) and then he can resist his own blind. You also can find relics that remove blind.
He requires work, but a tempest Leper chews through the front.

>>714703030
they're reworking all the characters. the latest are plague doctor, occultist, and runaway. I think these last three reworks are still in beta. hellion and leper will be updated soon.

>>714705759
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=darkest+dungeon+2+controller+support

>>714665825
Here's your new and improved game bro

I can only play DD with a fuck ton of porn mods. So I'll stick to the first game.

>>714665035
What a piece of woke trash, i bet that even the music Is mediocre

>>714706030
Who gives a shit about you fake gamers

>>714706256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swNepqn7ySU
You know what they say about sailors bro.
WOKE
AS
FUCK

>>714706256
>woke is not when the dark fantasy people fight stuff 2D
>woke IS when the dark fantasy people fight stuff 3D
if you played the game and clutched main kampf when the pixels that say "amorous" appears on your screen once every three playthroughs, youd find that DD2 is indeed quite a good game. i will never ever listen to /v/irgin /pol/acks ever again as you guys missed hard when it came to this game. it really is fun and good and removes the extremely boring grind of 1 and infuses it with more unique and experimental mechanics instead. its like 50 trillion times more replayable to me than the original, and i love that one too

>>714706030
>i was shaken as a baby
could have just said that

RIP Wayne, but his performance in this game just didn't hit as hard. I get that he's not playing the same character, but he just doesn't sound as good. Probably cause he was sick.

>>714706289
You're not even human, stop using our tongue. Filthy faggots in every one of DD threads after June's passing, thinking they can turn it into their game after the anti-trans voice actor they love so much is dead

>>714706657
THE PAST IS GONE. LET IT DIE

>>714665134
>actual animation instead of tweenshit
>"OMG FLASHMAN SAVE MEEEEEE"
Darkest dungeon is dogshit and you deserve everything bad that happens to you

>>714706698
Shut the fuck up before you get your face smashed in by a black man you nazi wannabe.

>>714707518
Nigger*
Kill yourself. It would at least prove me wrong about your kind being the first to be killed by their masters.

I hate you people

To me the weakest part of Darkest Dungeon 2 is the character interactions. For all the push for the character relationship mechanic, there's not a whole lot of unique character interactions. Let alone standalone character dialogue.

>Muh /pol/
No, normal people are tired of you subhuman kikes and subversion. Last 3000 years of getting kicked out of every town wasn't enough to stop your degenerate subhuman acts so don't be surprised people still don't like you

>>714664962 (OP)
Playing Blight chad team once and realising it's so disgustingly broken it mogs anything else is the defining moment of this game
Well, except in the Foetor

>>714708081
I agree, given that it is just text they should have had a few unique lines for every character interaction based on relationships. It is just text. No VAing.

>>714708081
Yeah you would think they could've bothered to take the time to write unique dialogue between each class, at least. But no. It's just halfassed garbage in every way.

>>714708092
>muh da joos for no reason
its so fucking tiresome. cant even discuss bing bing wahoo on this board without some ugly faggot mutt crying for hitlers return anymore

>>714708369
Nobody's forcing you to play a game you don't like you insufferable anti-woke culture warrior

>>714708092
go back to the asylum

DD2 and Frostpunk 2 are the prime examples of how not to make sequels. Hey, we figured out genre and gameplay loop that everyone likes? Let's fucking completely change the genre in the sequel.
Just no.

>>714708873
how the fuck is DD2 a different genre you melodramatic woman? oh no i cant waste time grinding out my hamlet and mercs in the glorified ipad game anymore? how awful.

Some days I wish Darkest Dungeon were obscure for the sole reason we could have decent threads instead of third world schizos shitting them up. It's truly in the worst spot of popularity.

>>714708616
In what world is everyone who sees a problem with this game your political boogeyman, dude? The relationship system is ass and they should redesign it or drop it altogether. Get your head checked if you think that statement is in any way political.

>>714708873
Yep. If Red Hook had balls they would've just made DD2 a brand new, different game under a new IP and let it succeed or fail on its own merits.

I've tried to like this game on two separate occasions. First on initial release, and second somewhat recently. It just doesn't hit the same.

The animations and art style are pretty, sure. But the on rails carriage driving is the stupidest thing ever.

Removing afflictions/virtues for relationships is also dumb, I don't care about the characters feelings towards one another, and I don't think anyone asked for that. I don't give a fuck about the faggotry, it's just an awful mechanic.

The removal of roster and hamlet management was such a miss. It's like the devs thought combat was the only thing that made DD fun to play.

Then there are the weird changes to healing, having to run shit over replacing curios, and how there are STILL missing heroes. With how many mods DD1 has, the replay value is practically infinite. There's just no real reason to play the sequel aside from admiring the new animations, which lose their charm after a while.

Also Collector is horribly balanced.

>>714708873
>WAAAAAAAAAAH WHY YOU NO CHANGE
>WAAAAAAAAAAH WHY YOU CHANGE
Can't win with you loser bitches whining over everything

>>714665134
>people in the replies unironically shitting on DDs artstyle
Yeah I'm not trusting these kinds of people when it comes to rating games.

>>714664962 (OP)
>>714665035
Wow, it looks terrible. No wonder no one wanted to play it. Devs getting lucky then proceed to not understand their audience when they make a sequel. I genuinely don't understand how this keeps happening. Surely at some point once success hits some stupid codenigger or gay retarded artist will have a moment of self-reflection and say "Okay, so why did that one work?" as they look up on their pile of useless scrapped garbage work that no one payed attention to prior.

>>714709576
the art style is identical between the games. one is just 3D. it is as faithful of an adaptation of the original style as you can get

>>714709589
what about it looks worse than 1? i genuinely dont get what is so wrong and bad about this

>>714706543
Think I just might get it this sale around.

The issue is that stress/roster management was a big part of DD1, that is all gone in DD2. It is basically just combat now where you buy every relationship improving item you find. It is fun, I love the combat, but it doesn't really feel like an epic struggle against an unknowable and indecipherable evil across a long, grueling campaign. If you lose your heroes you just start a new run.

>>714709516

>>714708982
Where's the management, retard? Where's the dungeon exploration? If you think that DD1 was defined purely by its combat and style, then you're as retarded as the devs.
These faggots deserve their game being a flop.

>>714710250
>She was one of those Goblin Slayer pregnant woman shields
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, based department, we got a live one

The first game had a serious flaw with how repetitive and grindy it was but the simpleness of it kept it easily moddable, and the art style was better to begin with

>>714710521
The art is far better now, but at the cost of it being basically impossible to create new characters.

>>714710250
man the flagellant looks so damn cool. cant wait to unlock that guy

>>714710521
luckily the sequel fixes everything.

>>714709305
You sound filtered. Collector is more challenging and a genuine menace instead of a nuisance. The combat is the main attraction, always has been. Hamlet busywork that people made easier by installing the expanded inventory mods was not that deep. The way they have it now works just fine, earn candles, unlock memories, skins, and items that will help you over time. Makes it way more playable. I had almost 50 hours just to beat all confessions the first time around. Then there's challenge runs, grand slam for completionists, and kingdoms. I have 400 hours and still play the latter regularly

>>714710602
Yeah, he was an excellent addition to the game. Looks cool, plays awesome, and is incredibly memeable.

>>714710720
You really sound like an outright shill dude.

>>714710602
He's insanely good and sustainable. Literally unkillable unless you're riding deaths door every other round

>>714710283
management is done one the field and the inns, retard. you have to manage your inventory space and picking where to go affects character relationships, stress and you have to be strategic in terms of hitting field goals. the dungeon exploration in 1 is not that interesting compared to other dungeon crawlers. dungeon """""""""""exploration""""""""""" in 1 is trying to hit rooms systemically for maximum effienciency while trying to maximize profit from ventures. it becomes formulaic extremely fast. in DD2 there is none of that fluff. its just pure gameplay and management. the is also the new game mode, added completely for fucking FREE so you retarded niggers cant complain about it, that is infinitely more management intensive than what DD1 does throughout its entire game. thats it. im 100% convinced that no DD2 hater has actually played it at this point. none of your arguments make any sense. usually /v/ has some points when it hates shit, but i simply dont see it with 2.

>>714710893
Don't care.

>>714710521
original game is 97% retarded porn mods anyway. nothing of value was lost

How does dd2 compare to sts?
Does it have the strategical depth, and the diverse choice pool of sts?
Are all the runs or chapters or whatever winnable If you play right?
Can you streak high winrates?
Or is dd2 more of a story immersion type game?

>>714710893
>1 DD2 enjoyer out of 50 trillion jeets ITT hating DD2 = shill
ok.

alright so i started my 2nd run and i just barely won. i could have easily lost since my whole squad was on deaths door for the boss fight. i know a lot of dd1 players dont like dd2 but holy shit it looks so good and its fun

>>714709870
What I think you and the other retards in this thread don't understand is it's not uglier than the old game. It might have lost it's charm maybe in comparison to dd1. That's not the problem. The animations look like ass. The kraken monster looks like shit. The attack animation cutting from the 3d "fluid motion" to a static card that illicits no weight of movement. It feels like the hero stops moving then half a second later the monster recoils almost cartoonishly as if it got hit by a giant acme hammer. That attack animation works in the first game due to how limited the characters look animation wise. You are imagining the 2d character and how it would move when cutting to the attack animation. In the new one you clearly see how the character is moving and the fluidity of the animations leaves nothing to really imagine. So when it cuts to that static attack card it completely ruins the flow.
Bouncy->Flat->Bouncy again is much worse visually then Flat->Flat with some flair.

>>714710717
I beat the game and first boss on release before the nerfs. Combat is a major part of it, but the formula was only part of a whole. Management was >fun, and way to out yourself by saying you installed cheat mods. I'll stick to the first game.

>>714711287
Stop being contrarian. Even ardent haters of DD2 admit the animation is excellent.

>>714711287
i completely disagree. DD2 has a attack select "windup" animation, keyframe on attack, and then a recovery animation. i vastly prefer this to DD1's static keyframe only style.

The perfect DD would be DD2's models/animations and DD1's Hamlet/excursion/dungeon crawling gameplay.

>>714711287

>>714711621
And the combat of DD2 in general, but yeah I agree.

>>714711458
No it just looks bad. You can cope for the next ten years. It looks bad and nothing will change that. Hopefully the studio learns a lesson. If they take any notes from you their next game WILL fail.

>>714711805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjL2Lkjv0qA

>>714711621
what is the appeal of the hamlet and dungeon crawling to you guys so much? the hamlet is basically there in 2 with the altar of hope which provides a similar meta progression, and the dungeon crawling in 1 was just a hamster wheel of doing the same shit over and over to extract as much resources as possible to then put it back into the hamlet. it was repetitive and annulled actual gameplay over just wasting time making number go up. the entire progression of 2 relies solely on just playing and completing the chapters, which are hard as fuck and still require investment into the meta-progression of the altar of hope. its essentially the same shit, just vastly more refined and re-centers the focus onto gameplay again, rather than simplistic farmville style """""""""""""management""""""""""""""""" of the hamlet.

>>714711805
>heres that amazing animation i told you about >>714705862
insane contrarianism at play here

>>714712054
Anon, the whole point is that spending hours and tons of runs building up a hero with upgraded skills, armor, weapons, and good traits then losing them stings a lot more than just losing a hero in a run and restarting or just replacing them at the inn. Doing the bosses felt like an investment. It was legitimately do or die. Hours could be wasted if you lost against the boss. Now it is just another run.
I like DD2 a lot, but it entirely misses that aspect of DD1. Like entirely.

>>714711940
No link can save the company from fucking itself with bad advice. If I lost 5/6th of my user base on my next project with no signs of correction my department would be culled and I would be replaced by a jeet that smiles and nods for crumbs. There are times to double down and there are times to learn. You HAVE to know when each is applicable.

>>714712198
>Hours could be wasted if you lost against the boss.
autistic busywork is bad design, always has been.

>>714712130
He doesn't even read the shit he replys to. Actually just seething. There is no way this is an organic response. This person has some personal stake in this argument to have a chip this big on their shoulder.

>>714712054
Are you fucking retarded? The entire appeal of DD1 to many was the slow buildup of your heroes from nobodies to real powerhouses, and of course, that gave them real value to you, the player, so it actually felt stressful and dangerous when the guys you've been working on for the last few runs are going up against bad RNG or a tough boss, which gives real weight to both victory or defeat. You actually felt GREAT if your hero rolled a Virtue at a key moment, for example, and it made that character awesome in your eyes. Now you don't give a fuck about any of them or anything that happens because it's just one more run and none of it, or them, matter to you the player as a result.

>>714712385
It's stakes, anon. You need those heroes for other missions, but you need them to also beat bosses to progress. Risk management. You can push on in a dungeon with a low health party or escape because you don't want to lose anyone. It added tension. There is not really much tension in DD2 other than the initial reaction to a new boss.

>>714712198
losing a character means so much more in DD2. if i lose my character that i have spend several ability upgrade points on in the middle of a run, its absolutely devastating compared to DD2 where you sit with 50 trillion mercs of varying levels and builds. building a new version of that lost character is not that big of a deal in DD1. just more grinding (which is not good design, imo). id rather just focus on actually playing the game rather than just grinding for number to go up until i can make another attempt at the darkest dungeon, lose, grind again, rinse and repeat. its boring to me

>>714712269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwAc_kaTY80

>>714712590
If you lose a hero in DD2 you can just recruit a new one and instantly level up their 2-3 skills that matter. Yeah, it can be bad for a comp and you have to substitute but I beat multiple bosses when replacing 2 heroes.
At worst you literally just abandon the run and restart. They're not that long unless you're doing a solo flagellant run then every encounter takes like 20 turns.

wish flaggy had a bleed path for old time's sake

How do I effectively use abom?

>>714712985
There's a mod for that.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3450164628

>>714713483
>Necrosis not changed to affect bleed

>>714713610
It's a mod that changes multiple skills per path, the one he changed Necrosis on is still a blight path so it stays the same.

>>714668729
what happened?! any news on this FACT?

>>714710997
I obviously talked about the original (and still the main) DD2 gameplay mode, not their poor attempt to bring back the original gameplay after everyone hated the initial release.

>>714664962 (OP)
>funner
for ESL retards yeah

>>714714253
funner is a proper word, beaner.

>>714714362
It's not.

>>714712985
They didn't even give a reasonable lore explanation why he was magically blight now right? So stupid. I can only guess they changed it cause otherwise he would struggle to do damage to Death.

>>714715282
the lore is that he refuses to die and that his body is rotting but he's still alive

>>714715282
It's explained that his body is rotting from all his self-flagellation and refuses to die through sheer force of will, which is why Death is after him.

>>714715282
>There needs to be a lore explanation for why they changed what damage type a hero does
Why, exactly? It was obviously for balance purposes, though ironically whatever damage type he dealt would be the strongest as he is the most overpowered character.

>>714715803
To be fair an explanation is in order because he's the only returning character that changed from DD1. But they did explain it so whatever.

>>714715409
>>714715484
Seems a bit of a stretch, like it was just done to justify having another blight character. I guess it's kinda metal though, man who refuses to die turned zombie thing. At that point though does he even feel pain anymore?

>Sold out to Timmy
>Sold out to a studio
>Fucked over fans of the original
No Thanks, I will not buy it ever. I didn't want a 3D rollercoaster ride. I wanted a 2D dungeon diver with quests, items, curios, gear and gameplay.

>>714715910
If he didn't feel pain anymore then he'd be begging Death to take him. He literally exists to feel pain.

>>714715887
All of the characters got new moves. They didn't really feel the need to explain those. They also have access to paths now and some of them had their backstories altered a bit.

>DD2's progression/campaign lacks replayability
>But the gameplay is so much more improved, all of the classes more complex/better designed and have more moves so it is impossible to go back to DD1
My only hope is that DD3 goes back to a DD1 style, or that they swallow their pride and release a DLC for DD2 that adds in a hamlet mode, but I think Kingdoms proves they aren't gonna do that.

>>714716048
You and I both know that isn't an apt comparison at all. Flagman came back as a zombie with blight magic instead of just a dude with a flail. That's in no way similar to Crusader coming back with an ability that allows him to strike two targets at once with his sword. If Crusader came back as a death knight or something then yeah, that would need an explanation of some sort.

>>714716408
Sure, I get your point, but it was clearly done as a gameplay choice first and the backstory was came up with later. I just don't think it is that important and I enjoyed flagellant in DD1 and used him plenty. But yeah I guess they did just say he is so addicted to pain he can't die until he has had every type of bug sting his balls.

what should i prioritize unlocking with my candles?

>haven't played 2 in a while
>see this Kingdoms mode has permanent Snortman

It's too different so it's shit.
I wanted DD1 but bigger and better.

>>714717380
You definitely want to get some of the early cart/resource upgrades, unlock all of the heroes, and then make sure to get items from the working fields. I honestly just kind of did a bit of everything, but there are REALLY good inn items you get through the working fields. Also shit like 3 armor/3 wheels is mandatory.

>>714664962 (OP)
the wagon ride alone makes this game a slog. runs are already long you don't need to slowly ride your carriage to the next destination every single time.

I can't stand Darkest Dungeon because I find the between missions stuff incredibly tedious and annoying.
Managing the mental health of your party, changing the party around, dealing with all that stuff at camp is all very boring and tedious. If the game was more leaning towards the dungeon like etrian odyssey it would be a fun series, but as it is the game is just boring

>>714720124
>if the game was completely different it'd be fun
Okay.

>>714720124
>the game is not for me
and that's ok

Is there any point to not using the radiant flame other than "internet badass" points?

>>714720904
more candles

>>714720904
As the other anon said you get less candles, but if you're really stuck on a boss then you can just use it. There is not achievement for not using it. I beat the entire game without using it once.

>>714720904
>is there any point not playing the game on easy mode

you lost the culture war, DD2 is better than ever AND it has the gays

>>714717842
you wanted stupid shit how da fuq would the story make a second game? the villain died in the first game

kys

>>714664962 (OP)
This is what happens when developers get the Epic Store bucks and a discord cave, surrounding themselves by "veterans" that slurped every single retarded design decision. I've started my artist career based on DD1, I know more than a dozen of other artists, modders and game developers that were inspired by it, and literally, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM said the exact same phrase; "RH got no idea why people liked DD1"
Check the numbers and you'll see that on a daily basis DD1 got nearly the triple amount of players, while DD2 continues to plummet. The early access had a mountain of dubious decisions like the lack of balance, the shitty relationship system, insanely long runs, that were kept even after launch and only now, two years later, RH felt the burn on their asses and are doing weekly balance patches. This game got peak Reddit mentality that everything must be "epic", hence why the devs shoehorned the character storylines and were so obsessed with presentation. DD1 only worked because they created it with a way lower budget. Now Wayne is dead and there's no way they'll be able to pull a DD3 after this failure.

I was dubious about Black Reliquary, but chances are the guys behind it may create in the future a proper sequel to DD1 after they finish the mod.

>>714721414
Answer the question

>>714715937
It has all those things, tard. Quit talking about things you don't understand

>>714722125
Everyone I know personally who liked DD1 and has played DD2 has also liked it but said they prefer the hamlet from DD1 while preferring the combat systems of DD2. It is not black and white. They also all universally think that DD2 looks a lot better.
The main issue that everything revolves around is the decision to do the hamlet vs roguelike, and stop pretending like this was just reddit or discord. It is because even though DD1 is a decade old at this point only like 3-4% of players ever beat it. I am sure that RH saw that and thought it was probably unacceptable that 97-96% of players were not able to finish the game so they went for a system that more people would be able to get further in, as now I believe it is 15-16% of people have beaten the game, so 4-5x the percentage of people.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS TRADE OFF ENDED UP BEING WORTH IT, but I am just tired of this argument that RH did this out of maliciousness or they hate DD1 or they hate the fans or they are obsessed with reddit or discord. DD1 was constantly filled with changes that the community hated. Do you fags remember the introduction of corpses in DD1? The community threw a shitfit. Do you remember when they nuked the stall tactics from orbit and everyone cried? People just came to accept them. The game's real issue, to me, was Epic. It hampered the game's launch heavily and did not give them a proper amount of testing and feedback in the early stages and now if they want to fix the game they need to try to reverse engineer DD2.

didnt the devs kill themselves because they knew they fucked up?

>>714723180
didn't you?

>>714720904
Like the other anons said, you get reduced candles but that's it. Use it if you find it more fun, I use fairly often when I take random parties

>>714723180
The game hasn't sold as well as DD1, but DD1 also sold over like 10 years and has been much cheaper for the vast majority of it. DD2 got epic money, outside investment, and still has 20k+ reviews on steam which is very good.
I'd say that they probably made a similar amount of gross from each (I am counting the epic and outsider investment for DD2) HOWEVER DD2 was obviously much more expensive to produce so it is not as profitable.

But if you're wondering if RH is going out of business then no.

>they're still trying to balance the game like its some pvp esport

>>714721614
>you lost
How? Way more people are playing DD1 lmfao

>>714724020
>this character/ability/item is useless
>leave it, this isn't a pvp game
Don't be retarded.

Between Monster Train 2 and Darkest Dungeon 2 I've been enjoying roguelikes recently. Both have been a lot of fun after I played E33 and the Lies of P DLC which were pretty intense. I kinda wanna add one more to the pile though, so I am seeing if there is another good roguelike on sale from the steam sale.

>>714724328
The game has been out for almost 6 years now. If they havent figure out how to balance it yet to the point where there's stuff so bad its almost unplayable then they are the retards.

>Be one of the first games to sign up to Timmy's exclusivity deal because no one knows how it is gonna turn out but you're getting millions waved in your face
>Turns out no one uses the platform at all
>Be in early access and get virtually no feedback
>By the time the game comes to steam you haven't had a chance to actually address issues and so the reception is more lukewarm than the original
Crazy how people thought Epic was gonna change PC gaming forever and is just a failed experiment at this point.

>>714724537
I said don't be retarded. DD2 was announced 6 years ago and playable in any form 3 years ago.

>>714724537
They were tweaking balance and mechanics in the first game until the very end.

>>714724789
Timmy is just a retarded exec who doesn't know how the market works and thinks he can get customers by buying exclusivity and dropping free games, rather than simply providing a better service than his competitors.

>>714722125
>I was dubious about Black Reliquary, but chances are the guys behind it may create in the future a proper sequel to DD1 after they finish the mod.
WHEEZE

>>714715282
The explanation is that Damian literally fucking refuses to die out of sheer willpower so Death has to personally show up to drag him kicking and screaming into oblivion for defying her domain.

>>714700825
Even the first game didn't have dungeons outside of the ruins and the Darkest Dungeon proper.

>>714695014
>And the Brothel in DD1 was traditionally coded, as in men fucking women,
Ah yes, because men fucking corpses (which is what necromania means) is so "traditionally coded".

Return of the King

I dunno, I have 44 hours in the game and I only got a gay relationship twice. Once between two dudes, and once between two chicks. Every other amorous relationship has been straight. Maybe it was crazy at release but it seems blown out of proportion.

>>714722819
I'm not saying they did anything out of maliciousness, they were just utter morons by not listening to criticism and holing themselves behind Epic and Discord which served as a hugbox. When the game got releasde on steam it instantly got threads about obviously unbalanced shit like the act 3 boss which was so fucking bad that it managed to be harder than the last boss of the game.
The most retarded thing they done by far was being stubborn with the presentation to a point they had a game with runs that lasted for 3+ hours, yet they refused to add QOL stuff that 90% of other roguelites got like increasing the speed or skipping the carriage sections. Yeah, the game looks great, but it wasn't worth the trade.

>>714728449
>blown out of proportion
Obviously. It's /v/, after all.

>>714728558
>runs that lasted for 3+ hours
At most 1 hour. No need to exaggerate.
>increasing the speed
In the game right now.
>skipping the carriage sections
That would be stupid unless you hated the hallways in between rooms in DD1. Same shit.

>>714728558
I do not understand the stagecoach thing either. Driving over the boxes for little bits of loot is just busy work. It doesn't make the game better.

>>714728953
Press W once and let it auto drive. Literally nobody manually drives.

>>714729150
But what about the little items you can get?

>>714728449
>Maybe it was crazy at release but it seems blown out of proportion.
Most of /v/ hasn't even played DD2 or the first one for that matter. So of course it is.

>>714729406
Those boxes and shit are so wide you hit them without even trying.

I wish the devs knew how to balance their game

>>714695014
Don't worry anon, I feel the same in a lot of ways
The characters having specific backstories and being randomly made gay soured me on it too. And that's not even getting into the epic shit, the price tag, and the whole "you are the darkest dungeon" bullshit
>Lesbians don't count if y
Having said that this is kinda retarded, lesbians are gayshit too, end of story

>>714730693
>and the whole "you are the darkest dungeon" bullshit
wat

>>714730693
>The characters having specific backstories
That was a thing since DD1's original comics.

>and the whole "you are the darkest dungeon" bullshit
The game never says that.

>>714731098
Unironic spoilers
There's no actual dungeons, the whole game is a battle against one guy's mental issues unleashed on the world as physical entities and the final words from the narrator are "and in each of us, the limitless emptiness... of a darkest dungeon"

I really liked the game but refuse to pay for new classes, should be part of the base game.

>>714729863
It is balanced, retard. Some of the characters (two) need an update, but theyre still viable. Other than that, the torches suck but only autistic streamers care about that

>>714731692
The events in DD2 is reality warping to the player's twisted mind having completed a ritual that the Ancestor initiated. It's not in his head or a dream or whatever, it's all really happening. The Darkest Dungeon itself is still a thing and all those locations/dungeons are real. The player left for the Mountain which is why everything is congregating around that kingdom.

>>714731794
It's mostly crusader. Not having John Dungeon in the game and saving him for DLC cause you know people will buy it is gay as fuck.

I beat the game this morning and I am just not sure what to do now. Should I just play more to fully upgrade everything? Most of my heroes still do not have all their skills, etc. However do I just repeat the final boss over and over?
Or do I try kingdoms?

>>714732464
Play Kingdoms. It's much more fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxmao1aFo5U

>>714700885
Cringe. Glad I'm behind on updates.

>>714732987
I go to the catacombs constantly just for the music.

>>714703074
Losing a run that took me hours feels like a big enough deal

>>714732103
None of that even slightly changes the fact that the game's final words are a direct message to the player wherein they hamfistedly say "the real darkest dungeon was actually... le inside us all along"
Like thanks dude, I guess that's a fine enough substitute for actually going dungeon crawling or properly going to the Darkest Dungeon

>>714733706
It's saying that everyone, everything, is still connected to the Heart of Darkness and that no one is beyond corruption.

>>714705862
It's perhaps the craziest example of old good new bad I have ever seen

>>714706543
TRVKE

>>714664962 (OP)
I just really don't like the travel system. How's kingdoms?

>>714709135
I like the relationship system.

>>714709305
>The removal of roster and hamlet management was such a miss
I will never understand DD1fags that think this. It's as wild as sayinf that DD1 has better arts and animations.

it's okay
someone needs to make a sexy graverobber model already

Why did DD2 flop?

>>714711157
It'a nowhere near STS in depth but I like it better cause of the atmosphere.

SEXOOOOO

>>714712198
>>714712458
I just don't see the appeal in DD1's system. Especially when I had multiple Lepers and Crusaders and could barely tell them apart. The short term journey is much more well designed. The Hamlet fucking sucked.

I just play dd1 mods

>>714712714
I just end a run if I lose a hero before a final boss. It's an autistic imposed challenge but it's how I enjoy it

personally not a fan of the shift from 2d to 3d

>>714665035
>It''s 3D
Oh...

>>714734158

>>714664962 (OP)
I like it, but I enjoy the first one more. The blobber dungeon crawling with a stacked party that have all their equipment and abilities upgraded and trinkets is way better than the standard endurance runs that many modern roguelites like to pull

>>714728449
Yeah, it's a retarded thing to complain about. Amorous relationships barely happen at all to begin with because they are strong as fuck. If one of my guys turns out to have the 5% chance of being gay, I'm gonna be stoked that he just got a lot stronger.

>>714729150
I do. I like it. It's comfy.

>accuse the wrong people of being witches
>feel bad

>>714735328
this nigga running a blight build

>>714735376
is v a fire board?

>>714735376
luv me dots
luv me necrosis

>>714735376
blight makes right chud

>>714735559
>>714735624
>>714735768
nah it is just cause blight is _OP
mostly cause mr undead skeletal is so strong

They made a meh roguelike instead of doubling down on xcom kino.

>>714735376
Born to blight
Darkest Dungeon is a fuck
Stress em all 2015
I am flag man
410,757,864,530 DEAD COURTIERS

OP here. I take it back. I'm not the biggest DD2 fan on this board. There are dozens of us. DOZENS!
I'm glad I'm not alone here. It's been wild to play this game for nearly a hundred hours now having le blast and then being reminded that a lot of /v/ hates it.
Fuck forcedanimationfags, fuck /pol/fags and above all else, fuck The Hamlet

>>714736121
I love DD2 but don't shit on the Hamlet.

Now, with that said, and to celebrate this great thread, I'm gonna play some more. New party just dropped. Confession 4.

>>714736121
I like DD2 quite a bit but I still believe the Hamlet was better and could have been expanded upon to be even better in a sequel. As is, I hope we one day get a DD3 with DD2's art/animations/combat with a Hamlet style system. Sadly, with the death of the narrator I don't know what they'll do.

>>714683448
What breakthrough is that?

>>714736186
I just think the management in DD1 is unbearably boring and the reason why I didn't finish that game and much prefer DD2. Having a roster full of dupes of characters is anti-sovl.

They regressed. I expected a hypothetical sequel to DD to be inspired by classic x-com and turn the game into isometric tactics rpg to really put into focus the importance of positioning and scouting.

Instead we got a roguelike withdogshit progression and runs too long for their own good.

>>714736808
>expected a hypothetical sequel to DD to be inspired by classic x-com and turn the game into isometric tactics rpg
This would be even more of a departure from DD1 than DD2 is.

>Flagellant tortured both the Abomination and Vestal
>They don't seem to care
That is the kinda thing that I dislike. With just text they should be able to write unique lines for each character combo.

>>714736808
>it's bad because MY IDEA for the sequel was blah blah blah

>>714736940
On the contrary, it would have been a fantastic evolution.

Hell. The torch mechanic could even turn into a proper fog of war. Imagine the ludokino of xcom night terror missions except it's a snuffed out torch in DD. Abd the hamlet mechanic plays so perfectly into xcom's systems. More defined unit stats and equipment makes things more personal too instead of forcing this meme of singular stories for each character.

>>714737396
>forcing this meme of singular stories for each character.
What does this even mean? IT IS TELLING YOU THE BACKSTORIES FROM DD1. THEY'RE THE SAME. THEY WERE JUST TOLD IN COMICS IN DD1 ON THEIR WEBSITE. What the fuck is this complaint? Is this multiple people doing this or one guy? They're just presenting it in game and using it as the context for unlocking skills.

As for the rest of your post, people would ABSOLUTELY be complaining if the game became an isometric RPG instead of a turn based RPG focused around ranks. I am not saying that it wouldn't be fun, my entire point was
>I don't like DD2 because it is a roguelike (but with the same gameplay as DD1)
>But I'd love DD2 if it had gamplay that was nothing like DD1

>>714737621
Yeah so don't call it DD2 then. Make it, it's own isometric rpg xcom spinoff of the game.

Regardless, thenoriginal DD already appeled to xcom fags with its minor ripping of its mechanics. This just takes it into the natural conclusion of such an idea.

>>714737621
>>But I'd love DD2 if it had gamplay that was nothing like DD1

nta but classic x-com ESPECIALLY terror from the deep really emulates the struggle and feel of darkest dungeon
legit the only thing that game needs is a new thematic coat of paint to match the AHHHH SAVE ME NIGGERMAN lovecraft shit and youre set

>>714736198
Welp. It's ogre. Try again.

>>714738665
There remains a foothold out of this mire. Now climb.

>>714739067
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRpbSmCsLqo

Wayne June passing is a genuine tragedy.

>>714734158
That's normal Graverobber though?

>>714733706
It's not saying that there is no actual Darkest Dungeon, you troglodyte. It's saying that literally ANYTHING can become one or be the catalyst for another apocalypse because everything is tied to the Iron Crown and it's possible for any schmuck to invoke it. The "Darkest Dungeon" as we knew it was just the Ancestor's manor - it was not an actual unique location. Any fucking place, at any fucking time, anywhere in the whole world can become like it or the Mountain by invoking the Iron Crown's power.

>>714739597
70 years old... What a shame.

>>714739067
And again. Fuck. So close.
ONE MORE TRY!

>>714742752
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwPeMErJvF8

I have a question for the DD2 experts.
I haven't bought Inhuman Bondage yet (The DLC that comes with the Abomination), but I will.
Apparently, you can unlock the Abomination either in the normal mode or with the Kingdom mode (I also haven't tried this mode yet).
If I enjoyed the road to unlocking the Crusader with the Binding Blade, which way should I unlock the Abomination with? Normal mode or kingdom? Do they have an equal amount of effort and lore put into them?

>>714736121
I guess I'll try the pirated version I picked up. I hate their nickel and diming with DLC shit. That's the real reason I didn't get it- sale wasn't deep enough, Kingdoms still costs too much. Not when I can get Ark's Wonder Dungeon for like $2.

>>714705932
nta, but i'll never understand this strategy. make a game, market it, sell it, let it run for a good while and then fucking change everything. like sweeping the rug out from underneath you. why don't they just make another game instead of fuck with the one they already made?

>>714736254
naw. skill issue.

>>714744010
Kingdoms is free, albeit

>>714744354
They're doing what the fans asked them to do. By the time the Vestal and Flagellant were added to EA (the last two classes) they improved their class creation process. That is to say, the last classes were more intricate and better developed than the ones that came before them. The fans wanted Red Hook to go back and give the older classes a second pass to bring up to speed with the Flag and Vestal, so they did.

>>714744010
Kingdoms and all three modules are 100% free.

>>714693000
check those trips
>>714695014
>>714730693
Same. I'm not playing DD2 because I don't want to play as a bunch of faggots either.

>>714744729
Fair, I checked and you're right, it is free. Do you think it's worth $20 though? I didn't pay nearly that much for Darkest Dungeon, think I nabbed it for like $8.

>>714743908
N-n-no one? ;_;

>>714743908
>>714745469
If I remember correctly, Abom is unlocked right from the start if you have the DLC. It's not a quest like Crusader.

>>714743153
ONE.

MORE.

TRY.

>>714745573
Oh, what a shame. Alright, in that case, I know what to do. I'll play around with the Abomination a bunch on normal mode before I go for Kingdom.

is it true the devs are actually commies and removed the deus vult character from the sequel because it got too popular and they didn't like the christian memes?

>>714746596
No. Like another anon put it, Crusader is like Sagat in Street Fighter. It came in a DLC with its own kino questline to unlock him.

>>714746596
>game has Vestal, Leper, and Flagellant
>hurr the devs hate religion cause Crusader is missing

red hook is obsessed with using the same 4 heroes for an extended period. the crimson court and endless harvest were both this.
it's the whim of some people calling DD1 a roguelike. each embark being a roguelike run and the town being meta progression?
so red hook's idea of making a bigger and badder roguelike is longer runs, even if there's little to no divergence within them. while most see the game at a larger scale of roster management etc.

>>714745197
Kingdoms is essentially a whole additional game on top of the base Confessions mode. I'd say if you enjoy that, then you'll like Kingdoms.

I'll try it out when they're done with Kingdom. I'm letting them patch all that shit.

>>714664962 (OP)
They made Grave Robber hot as fuck in II, so its a plus in my book

>>714749458
She was always hot as fuck but the more realistic proportions made her even better.

>>714738665
>>714742752
>>714746150
>the highwayman always lives
kino

Alright, I think I might win now. Things are going very well. However, MUH HOMOS, I need to uninstall the game right now.

>>714750196
>Alright, I think I might win now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yyAgk9der4

>>714750196
OVERCONFIDENCE
SLOW AND INSIDIOUS

>>714750501
>>714750749
My confidence is in tatters right now. Guaranteed loathing increase and I have to beat the Tangle Boss. If I don't post before this thread dies, assume I lost for the fourth time and finally gave it up for the day.

>>714751268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NEM-B-oad0

I CAN DO THIS

I CAN DO THIS

FULL HEALTH

Grave Robber has a war horn
Crusader has the death door resistance potion
Man-At-Arms has ONE healing salve
And Highwayman has the Death Cap Spores so the boss will only have one death door shield

GOGOGOGO

Yeah, I got this
Easy peasy
Also, flashing daggers and grapeshot are incredible against this dude

GET!

FUCKED!

Alright, as long as I don't find the Collector, I have a 95% chance of winning this run. I got this. Thanks for posting in my thread, /v/bros. I love Darkest Dungeon 2. Actually my favorite roguelite ever.

>>714752101
>as long as I don't find the Collector
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVRfH3EQkSY