Thread 714774984

ATTENTION ANONYMOUS POSTERS
DUE TO YOUR LACK OF STAR TREK VIDEO GAMES DISCUSSION
I HAVE NO CHOICE OTHER THAN START ONE ON BEHALF OF THE CARDASSIAN GOVERNMENT

there are no good star trek games

>>714775104
*blocks your path*

>>714775104
The Fallen

>>714774984 (OP)
The Cardassians did nothing wrong.

Deep Space 9 never happened. It was all in Ben's mind.

>>714775104
Bridge Commander is fucking awesome, especially if you set it up with voice macro controls.

>>714774984 (OP)
>have replicators
>decide to invade and occupy bajor for their resources

i don't understand

I was at videogaem club last week and I learned there was DS9 SNES game
I only managed to learn how to walk jump and got station destroyed by cardasians, but I am intrigued
anyone played it before?

>>714776624
Balding made him a terrorist

>>714776773
Aside from there being known substances that replicators cannot replicate, there may be resources that are easier to get from natural sources than trying to manufacture artificially. Furthermore, replicators still require raw materials.

Anyway, the slave labor was what they got the most out of, probably.

>>714776810
there's 2 deep space 9 games:
ds9 the fallen: a 3rd person shooter
dominion wars: a space ship combat game

>>714776526
You'd need Majel Barrett to be the AI voice that responds when it fails to understand your command.

>>714775104
JUDGE ANON HANDS DOWN ANOTHER RULE! But where's his evidence?!

>>714775492
This game was super detailed.
You could zoom in and see the windows

>>714777248
If you want a perfect DS9 game it's UFO: Enemy Unknown.

>Founders as the master brain
>Vorta as Ethereal
>Jem Hadar as Mutons

We are not the same.

>>714774984 (OP)
I bought Star Trek Resurgence during the sale and I've been enjoying it a lot

I played a ton of Birth of the Federation. Klingon Academy was good too.

>>714774984 (OP)
Gul Dukat did nothing wrong

>>714775104
Take that back you ignorant slut.

A Final Unity was pretty good.

>>714781317
Hell yeah. Love that game.

Is sex with Dax gay?

>>714782586
>not leeta

>>714782586
Jadzia gay
Ezri straight

>>714774984 (OP)
wish star trek has good games. rewatching ds9 with my gf who never saw it before right now and its so kino

>>714776624
>starts shit
>gets utterly wrecked by the Dominion
Sisko warned him

where are the games, /v/?

>>714776773
>>714777168
The Cardassians were an extremely conservative race so you could argue that the occupation of Bajor wasn't even about resources, but just exerting control over others given they had a track record for conquering other planets, which looks to be the case with the sacking and destruction of Bajor cultural sites.

>ds9 harbinger
comfy as fuck. reminds me of a early 90s game almost.

Trekkies are the shit-smeared nerds that other nerds avoid like the plague, LMAO.

>>714782956
What would happen if you just refused to declare your pronouns for a speedtranny event like this?

>>714782956
>with my gf
She will bite her lips when she sees Worf making out with Dax lmao

O'BRIEN!
GET THAT GOONER THREAD OFF MY FRONTPAGE!

>>714784438
No that's star wars fans

>>714785795
They go hand-in-hand

>>714785012
>ywn be her terran sex slave

>>714776773
The 'Resources' were Bajoran women

>>714783671
>/v/ says the second chap is garbage
>makes me laugh every time
Never trust /v/

>>714779103
thanks. i'll add this to my to-be-played list

>>714785012
>kira and bashir were married and got pregnant in real life and rom actually married leeta in real life too

lucky bastards

>>714784438
>>714785795
>>714786434
Both were mocked for a reason.

>>714774984 (OP)
Is Star Trek online fun?
Like for a single player romp of pretending to be spaceman and having bridge bunnies in the form of Klingons?

can you freeze your level or do the missions scale with you or something at least

>>714775492
>le tactical cube
>le hecking fusion tactical cube
Still kino

>>714775104
The FPS one was fun from what I remember

>BZZZZTBRWRWRW

How did they get away with this?

>>714790387
It was a different time.

>Never watched Voyager
>Looks pozzed

Should I watch?

>>714788186
walking (hopping) simulator bullshit

>>714791895
Well, 'pozzed' for late 90s trek.
Really it's just wildly inconsistent with how they approach writing Janeway.
Overall, not awful but certainly lacking in comparison to TNG and DS9.

>>714791895
voyager is fucking awful except when it's amazing. the writing is terrible and inconsistent, the acting is often laughable, theres wrestling tie-in cameos. the characters are fucking perfect and its super comfy, the multi-part eps are still usually fantastic best-in-franchise tier. you should watch.

>>714791895
>Complaining about Star Trek being Pozzed
>Star Trek
I hate underage B&s

>>714791895
DS9 was the pozzed one. It was a complete reaction to the whole 'reee they have nuclear weapons' that started the first Iraw war/gulf war' and the entire overall plot is showing that

Voyager is a weird mixture of the 'badass' 90s series with shit like Buffy, Hercules, Xena, etc. An overall plot but some monster of the work episodes

It's about as pozzed as say, 'I take orders from a woman' could be but at the end of the day, none of the women are mary sues really. Even Torres gets like 2-3 moments of 'yeah she's Klingon' but that's it

>>714792243
Liberal =/= pozzed
DS9 was pozzed with the entire fuckery of 'accept everything and also the version of the US government/UN is bad jus tlike in real life lolz'
Voyager wasn't pozzed neither was ToS or TNG for that matter.
Retards think 'not being far right = pozzed'

>>714774984 (OP)
>Year 25 of the 2000s
>There is still no in-depth trek-like commander VR game with voice controls
Battlegroup is the only thing that comes close but its just the RTS part without managing your ship or exploring space goddammit. I want hyperautistic trek barotrauma.

>>714786978
Which was more existentially fucked, the original O’Brien dying and being replaced by his self from 2 hours in the future, or Harry Kim being sucked into space and being replaced by his exact copy?

>>714791895
>pozzed
voy was completely unintentionally incompetently unpozzed
>>714792640
kim was existentially fucked long before then

I thought you hated video games Mike?

>>714791895
if TNG fluctuates between 3/10 and 10/10, voyager fluctuates between 1/10 and 8/10

>>714793029
voy fluctuates between -5/10 and 10/10

>>714792850
Remember when Neelix found out God wasn’t real

>Watching ANYTHING other than the original series
ISHYGDDT

stop masturbating anon, I have an assignment for you

>>714793395
I don't have to go anywhere near Romulans, do I?

>>714793395
Ah no cannae do it, Captain! Ah NO HA' THE POWAH

>>714781317
>the only excuse they could think of to force you to take Crusher and Troi for one mission is to have you deal with a matriarchal society so absurdly sexist they can't even carry on a conversation with men without talking down to them and refusing to listen to a thing they say

>>714791895
Voyager fucking sucks

The entire premise of the show is tossed out the window a few episodes in, and almost the entire cast is unlikable and a lot of the actors actively hated the show and were trying to get off it

>>714793610
Classic 90s attempt at 'le gender role reversal!'

>>714791895
missed potential: the show
has a few individual good episodes but that's kinda it. Cast is also mostly pretty bland

>>714782586
As long as you aren't touching the symbiote half it should be fine

>>714793637
its great, the whole fucking series is a massive train wreck. the fake injun advisor, the wrastlin, the coked up writers room also fucking jeri ryan. its just the perfect storm.

>>714784438
Good. They are the last real ones.

>>714792850
>voy was completely unintentionally incompetently unpozzed
Even intentionally too. Although you could just call it hollywood bitching if im being honest.
>actors for kim and paris gain weight in real life
>write a jab at both of them into the show and make them call each other fat in character
Its the episode where they find living metal that copies everyone. Compare that treatment to how things went for the new trek blimp lady.

>>714790341
If you enjoy Armada and Bridge Commander you'll probably jive with it as the main gameplay is a more arcadey version of those systems combined with some utterly jank ground sections that could only had been conceived in the mid 2000s MMO craze.

Birth of the Federation is the only game to let you lead the Ferengi Alliance in taking over the galaxy and forcing everyone to play Vulcan Love Slave on the holodecks.

>>714792640
that obrien episode is messed up bc he also watches himself die and sees the station explode before that ending even happens

>>714791895
It's schizophrenic, but generally worth watching for the fun points. Enterprise is where everyone sane stops watching.

>>714783736
Yeah, that makes sense.

>>714792640
The STO continuation of that Kim episode where the original Kim comes back as one of the Kobali and goes on the rampage on the unfairness of having his entire life stolen by his own clone

>>714794709
if this is actual game footage that's pretty based

>>714792243
The whole point over the Prime Directive and Star Trek as a whole is that trying to force a higher standard of society on people degrades both them and you, and that they have to learn to accept it on their own intuition.
That is the opposite of pozzed. In fact, the Interstellar Concordium is a stand-in for modern neo-liberalism and its need to force its way of life onto other cultures, and they are depicted as the bad guys in Starfleet Command.

>>714791895
>Looks pozzed
it's not any more so than the Star Trek before it
its issues are that its writing quality dips and generally amounts to nothing
It's comfy but boring

>>714776624
This is what Canadians used to be like

>>714794897
enterprise is also schizophrenic but in a toned down boomer parody sort of way
>70% silicone stripper vulcans just like the good old days
>generic asians kept in their place
>9/11
but then robocop saves the day in the really real only finale

>>714793991
>the fake injun advisor
what?
>the coked up writers room also fucking jeri ryan
please tell me you mean this figuratively. jeri is pure

>>714794709
>That pic

Is that Bashir's program?

>hate VOY
>think ENT is on the cusp of kino, one more season wouldve saved it

What does this say about me?

>>714785012
why did Kira have sexual tension with her own mirror universe counterpart? the writers were on some shit, she wasn't THAT hot

>>714794897
i tried watching ENT and actually really liked the premise but the entire cast are complete planks including Bakula, except for Jeffery Combs of course but he is barely in it

also the coomer shit is SO on the nose i completely get why the actress who played the bimbo vulcan lady complained about it. Those scenes are funny but you can tell they were inserted as market research notes from the execs bc they are so ridiculous and unnecessary

>>714795396
there was some snake oil LA man claiming to be an injun since maybe OG trek and he led every series down ridiculously bullshit injun storylines but the VOY was best/most ridiculous.
>akoocheemoya

jeri ryan was dating the lead writer and showrunner when she got hired, i think before the divorce.

>>714776624
The whole Cardassia situation was a shitshow on all sides but the outcome was that all of Cardassian space is under Federation control so now the Maquis don't need to chimp out anymore.
Too bad they all died.

q predicted all of this

>>714775104
Ahem

>>714795543
the cast gets fleshed out okay after s1, as they always do. asian girl never fits in of course. the doctor is great, the engineer/weaponsguy bromance is fantastic. 9/11 season was ridiculous but at least it was interesting. S4 FINALLY got into like peak star trek format. entirely 2-3 part stories with amazing guest stars. if they had done that from the beginning any trek show would be perfect.

>>714795680
It must suck to be John De Lancie. Type cast as Q-like characters for an entire acting career.

>the original, peaceful cardassian society, the Hebetians, were ironically themselves conquered by an outside culture that warped them into what they eventually became
>Cardassia Prime, already a fairly resource limited world, suffered some kind of ecological disaster that turned a great deal of it into barren desert and effectively forced the already aggressive post-Hebitian society into looking outward for what they needed to survive

>>714776773
Can a replicator replicate a replicator so you could have infinite replicators?

>>714795534
Her whole character was she was a messed up liar who would fantasize about being raped when she was a little girl and fantasizing about her mom being raped too
Her mom even admitted there was nothing sexual in her relationship and Kira was freaked out that he fantasies werent' true

>>714795839
sad part is he's not even the best q, thanks VOY

DS9 was the beginning of deranged moral grandstanding by the Star Trek writers, but you're not ready for that conversation

>>714795969
Too bad the latest patch broke a bunch of shit. I can't tow the damn asteroid, my android factories aren't making androids and for some reason Khan has been the immortal ruler of Earth for the past 200 years after I made him take a time field trip and while that's based it doesn't make up for the other two points.

>>714776624
He literally would have been better off staying with DS9 and being a sympathetic voice for the Maquis in Sisko's ear.

Come play the best Star Trek RTS with me.

>never got past the fight against the fucking romulan scout ship

it's been thirty-one (31) years and i'm still fucking mad. the enterprise was literally 100x bigger than it and should have curbstomped it

>>714776624
YOU BETRAYED THE UNIFORM!

>>714774984 (OP)
Are the only hopes left for star trek games just fan games and mods?

>>714776624
>war in full swing
>continues seething and sperging about muh federation
>gets everyone killed including himself
>federation wins the war by almost committing genocide

ds9 seasons 6 and 7 were a hoot

>>714774984 (OP)
LOL, we just watched that episode again last night and were laughing at the increasing escalations and the automated messages. Icing on the cake was when Dukat got caught up in it himself.

(look I'm going to assume the underaged shitstains here are too young to have watched it so I'm giving them a chance to enjoy it themselves)

>>714776773
Replicators need raw resources to replicate. they don't just create things out of nothing.

>>714796353
that one i dont remember at all. had judgement rites and 25th anniversary on floppies, bought final unity myself as a kid. then there were like 5 FMV games that were fun.

>>714792529
>DS9 was pozzed with the entire fuckery of 'accept everything and also the version of the US government/UN is bad jus tlike in real life lolz'
DS9 has the Federation and Starfleet look imperfect, not "bad". It's easy to see that they're among the least evil faction around that still does try to keep expanding.

>>714796561
to be fair mining asteroids and shit is essentially free money, going down to planets is retarded.

>>714796561
From my understanding they convert energy into matter so they're a miracle if you have access to a fusion reactor or better and suck if you don't.

>>714795510
you have a brain

>>714796515
very fun episode
it became a meme for a reason

>>714795871
Replicators still need a basic mass to alter into stuff and have a specific energy requirement that varies based on the needs of the item being produced. So you could just sit there and produce replicators all day but you'll have turned all your replicator stock into replicators. Most of which you can't fucking power on because your local power grid wasn't designed to boot up 1000 extra portable replicators.

allamaraine

>>714795510
is this on paramount +

>>714792529
>Retards think 'not being far right = pozzed'
That's what is it in the new clown world we live in, deal with it. They'd be calling the ToS woke if it came out today.

>>714793131
And there is no afterlife.
The only thing more annoying is they didn't use the nanomachine tech to save other crewmen who had fatal injuries.

>>714776624
Thats nice.
>Mr. Worf you may fire the Maquis Raper 9000 at the planet now

>>714796685
Not really
The entire point was that while the other factions, with the exception of the Klingons are 'bad', Satfleet was jst 'we're the good guys' but were really far, far worse committing fucking genocide with glee just because they didn't like the other faction##>>714797007
ToS was woke for its time, like retardedly woke

>>714797273
>the next star trek series someone from the federation makes a legion of ships that all it does it process borg cubes for raw materials and everyone is fine with it

>fucks up everything star trek he touches
>below decks and strange new worlds aren't molested by him
>they're the best of the nu-trek

why does paramont let this retard still be in control of the franchise?

I require information captain,
Where are the TNG games?

>>714797194
cardassians and romulans attempted to do the exact same thing in like season 4, but they fail miserably bc of how brazen they are about it
it's babby's first morally grey show

Why didn't Federation just bring peacekeepers in the Maquis planets to uphold the peace? That way The Maquis wouldn't resort to violence.

>>714797273
The mines were probably not infinitely-replicating, but since they were stealth-equipped and already hard to find I thought it made sense they posed a problem.

We all know the truth about who's the best Star Trek vidya girl.

>>714774984 (OP)
I'm almost done with this series. I feel real bad for Damar. He's an idiot but he's been loyal to Dukat to a fault and for his troubles he's now a puppet dictator trying to keep Dukats house of fucking cards from collapsing and destroying his people. I get why he's become an alcoholic.

Jeffy Combs is also a fucking joy in this. I dont think ANY of this dominion war stuff would work as well as it does if Sisko, Dukat, and Damar didn't have such excellent and varied chemistry with him. Dude is shattering his spine propping the drama up as Weyoun

>>714797007
>And there is no afterlife.
There is no afterlife for a hylic like Neelix*

>>714797542
the maquis planets were in cardassian territory. they used to be federation and then the feddies sold them out. no federation allowed.

>>714797506
>cardassian and romulan plan was to send twenty (20) warships against the dominion

what the fuck were they thinking? star fleet can scrounge up 20+ ships in the ass end of the neutral zone within a day

>>714797394
They signed a deal with him they can't break out of even though some have tried pushing back.

>>714797473
The humans use a saying brother that you might find applicable to your predicament.
"Up your ass"
hahahahahaha

>>714797619
>stealth-equipped

there is no such thing as a perfect cloak in star trek. the dominion would have quickly detected a bunch of stationary objects

>>714797194
>ToS was woke for its time, like retardedly woke
That's the point, Star Trek is always going to push the boundaries of whatever outrages conservatives of the era.
The only wild card is the quality of the writing.

>>714797674
>Can't even afford a Great Forest
It's not even a logistical issue like living on a cloud.

>>714797740
wolf359 was only like 40 ships and that was a majority of active starfleet

>>714797773
how the fuck did he have that much negotiating power against fucking paramont?

>>714797653
he acts circles around everyone he's in scenes with except Dukat
it's very funny whenever he's in scenes with sisko doing his hammy stage acting, the difference is so obvious

>>714797194
>Not really
Yes, really. They weren't taking over with armed forces unlike the Cardassians were already doing and Dominion encourages the Breen into doing with themselves.

>>714797884
>majority of active starfleet

bullshit. the federation is over 8,000 lightyears from on side to the other. 80 ships can't cover even a 1/10th of that

>>714797740
Wasn't it "mostly rogue" black ops guys doing it with only the vaguest blessing from their respective governments? They just needed enough ships to burn down what they thought was the Changeling homeworld.

>>714797740
>>714797506
Because it wasn't the Cardassian and Romulan government, it was their black ops groups, the Obsidian Order and Tal Shiar doing it unilaterally.
Heck the Thomas Riker episode even foreshadowed it because his plan was to go to shipyards where the Obsidian Order was building their fleet for the attack on the Founders.

>bro ds9 is DEEP since like, they just mimiced hat the reds were doing and like yeah bro, morally grey

No, it's shitty writing, shitty fucking story and overall is pure utter shit that only lives on through memes of the potato suffering, the faggotry (literally, it's got the highest amount of faggotry in the entire series) and 'le hecking viva las vegas'

Haven't played STO since the Iconian bullshit ended, is it worth going back to or is it completely dead?

member states have their own fleets and starfleet has tons of bases and colonies and the range of patrolling ships is extreme, though probably not as extreme as enterprises.

>>714797740
>>714797884
This was a time when the writers had no sense of scale of the setting they were writing for.

That's why when the true war against the Dominion begins in Season 5 all the races are losing dozens of ships a week when earlier a single battle of that size would've crippled them for years.

I did not care for hologram Frank Sinatra ripoff

>>714798238
we know what starfleet academy class sizes are like though, theres a strict limit on how many manned ships can exist at any given time.

>>714798163
I dropped the game when they started deepthroating will wheton with with faggy "mirror universe emperor wesly crusher storyline

>>714798138
This. Star trek died at all good things final episode for tng

>>714797840
They go over the whole idea and mention that the small size is relevant to how effective masking them is even if it's not perfect, that it's easier than hiding a whole ship. And if new mines can be replicated and move into position that means they have some capability to move, especially since they also talk about "swarming the target" when they detect ships or whatever.
The whole plot point was that it wasn't infallible, just clever for a time.

>>714798020
The vast majority of the Federation is peaceful enough that it can be handled by local security. Starfleet is only need for border patrol, exploration, and regional starbases.

>>714798352
>all Starfleet crewmen pass through the Academy

>>714798330
what about hologram joe piscopo?

>>714798049
it was the obsidian order and tal shiar yeah
also when the "federation" did it it was section 31 not starfleet, although there was at least some awareness of it bc that one admiral guy gives the "i can neither confirm nor deny" routine when asked about it

>All of the DS9 complains come from Season 7
>Season 1 has that one episode.
>No one has mentioned the James Bond episode yet.

>>714774984 (OP)
Can we talk about how Janeway went back in time and gave her ship future tech because her female emotions couldn't handle the burden of command and losing her friends? Also she was fraternizing with subordinates like a goody cat mommy.

>>714798502
star trek OFFICERS pass through academy and officers are necessary to fly ships. maybe not the marine troop transport things that were mentioned 1 time ever.

>>714797801
>lore took all the TNG games

>>714798535
>the james bond episode
pure soul

>>714775104
>>714775492
The Star Trek Armada mod for Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion is actually really really good. Still waiting on the same mod for Sins 2.

>>714798535
The problem with DS9 is it tried to be three things at once
>episode with 'character development' every 3rd episode
>oh yeah shit we have the overall plot of religion and nazis
>also remember we are a scifi show so let's do
some random scifi fuckery

Even with Almaraine or whatever the fuck it was, it's not even a bad episode. It just fits in with what the show was aiming for: serious but utterly not serious depending on what we can spend money on

guys I watched generations
I wish I didn't watch generations

>>714798593
and she kept getting away with it

>>714798696
>kino hand-written character pair ups
>kino steals a random nazi movie plot
>pretend gene's still around and do random technobabble bullshit with a moral at the end

>>714798714
don't watch any of the tng movies they are all bad
including First Contact, i have no idea why people try to hand wave that one. IT SUCKS

>>714798238
>>714797884
>>714797740
You're also forgetting Star Fleet Command had to just call in whatever ship they had in the area within a few days, as opposed to the Dominion War where they had time to organize entire battle wings.
The Wolf 359 fleet had transport and science vessels among their fleet.

As for showing the battle, they couldn't do it for budget reasons. You could have massive battles in DS9 because they switched from practical models to CG.

>>714798535
That was a good episode though.

>>714798834
what about nemesis?

>>714796353
>it's been thirty-one (31) years and i'm still fucking mad.
That's me and 7th Saga. But I'm about to replay that shit real soon. Maybe with a ROM hack that's easier.

>>714798238
imagine being assigned to a federation fighter. a single hit and you are dead. like why not have the computer take control instead of sending highly trained starfleet personnel to their deaths?

>>714796729
The whole socialist utopia of Star Trek is based on infinite energy and the ability to convert it into material objects.

>>714798834
Because the opening battle is one of the best of the franchise and it still holds up almost 30 years later.

>>714799079
they recycle waste into infinite objects

>>714798330
vic fontaine was cool, but was overused

>>714799052
>like why not have the computer take control instead of sending highly trained starfleet personnel to their deaths?
What makes you think that's not exactly what they did? Would be trivial to set fighters up on automatic control to target specific enemies. Hell, they did that with the Prometheus, all you need is someone giving it orders.

>>714798593
>jean luc picard saved the federation and the entire galaxy multiple times against
>janeway spends 7 years violating the prime directive across half the galaxy
>janeway becomes an admiral while picard is cast off

>>714798774
Blood Oath is probably the worst offender in the entire series
>Dax you can't just... kill people you're part of the Federation
>well I'm doing it anyway and if you court martial me because I broke federation law that's fine by me
>dont' do you young lady, I mean old man! I'll do it I'm warning you!
>so yeah I couldn't kill him in the end but I'm back
>okie dokie welcome back!

There is zero fucking character development ouside outside of the whole Garak = evil but not evil but really good but evil but good haha cause he's quirky and likes to pretend to be a bad guy

Even fucking Keiko had more fucking character devlopment than most of the main characters. So did fucking Alexander now that I think about it. So did fucking Lxawnna in TNG compared to most of the cast
It took fucking Worf to be brought in to have any semblence of a personality that grows over time

>>714798330
massively overused in season 7 but the Nog ptsd episode was extremely good

>>714798834
First Contact was a fantastic DS9 movie, the problem is it starred the TNG cast.

>>714776624
The whole idea of the Maquis is kind of retarded if you think about it.
>yes, we're going to settle on these disputed worlds between Federation territory and the Cardassians, an aggressive expansionist military power that is presently brutally occupying multiple worlds and territories
>Sure, the Cardassians and Federation were just involved in a bloody war (referenced in The Wounded etc) but ehhh, we're just gonna stay here
>Sure, there are thousands and thousands of habitable unsettled M-class planets inside Federation space presumably which is fucking massive but nah, we're doing this because... muh self-determinism!
>treaty is struck giving some of these disputed territories to the Cardassians
>Federation offers resettlement with full aid, Maquis refuse
>Cardassians start brutally oppressing them
>wtf man HELP ME FEDERATION SENPAI AIIIYEEEEEE
How the fuck am I supposed to have any sympathy for these retards? Why the hell didn't they just move?

Not only that but Eddington is going full retard when the rest of humanity is fighting for its life against the Dominion with everything on the line.

>>714799163
Puts a spin on "Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations."

>>714798834
first contact is fun like the voyage home, which is why they're the most popular star trek movies

>>714799327
dax was worthless all the time but at least ezri was cute.
>bashir/obrien
>bashir/garak
>odo/quark
>kira/anyone
were perfect team ups though

>>714799292
Starfleet Admiralty is where they put the problem officers they dont want commanding ships anymore

>Welcome home, Kirk!
>Get the fuck off the Enterprise right now we're promoting you as far from the bridge of a starship as is physically and politcally possible

>>714799052
Do we even see any small fighters? I think there's a whole story point about how Starfleet exclusively makes fuckhuge fuckpowerful ships that can literally do anything now including shoot and dish it out. Which kinda makes sense for crew survivability if the ship they're all on is really hard to take down. With weapons as powerful as we seen ST smaller ships don't make much sense in combat.

>>714799414
Maquis is a massive cope realizing that Federation isn't perfect.

>>714799548
fighters are explicitly anti-federation's
>we dont have warships
thing but then they do have warships eventually so fighters might be a thing too. wasteful, considering again how academic the whole ship piloting system is.

>>714775104
Star Trek Legacy has nice menu music

>>714799548
You see them in the big battle to retake DS9 from the Dominion.

Sisko specifically mentions his big strategy is to suicide his fighters against Cardassian ships because the Jem'hadar will never break ranks to try and chase them down.

>>714799548
We see fighter wings in late DS9 battle scenes, and they last about as long as you'd expect.
No way they're not automated. Anyone that suggested manned fighters would be locked in a psych ward.

>>714799507
The problem was that they wrote the show to be a bit like MASH, was meant to be a war show but they quickly realized that failed so they tried to do more quirky shit and we got the one off episodes or episode where side charactesr got far, far more personality than the main ones did over the seven seasons

Ezri was good because it was a very simple 'oh yeah now we can put in someone who isn't Worf or the personal cheerleader of the Klingons to point out what everyone else can see'
Bashir/Obrien was fine for what it was, just two retard main characters in a shitty 90s comedy show
Bashir/Garak I get it, the whole 'Bashir loves the old faggot and learns from him'
Odo/Quark was just the retarded cop/criminal buffy we've all seen before
>Kira/anyone
Kira and dying is ideal

>>714799080
>dude, let's focus our fire at a single spot instead of spreading our shots out randomly

did picard really need to be assimilated by the borg to come up with that idea?

also, worf had the best plan in ramming the cube. force = mass * acceleration. take a miranda class which weighs 655,000 metric and take it up to full impulse which is just below the speed of light and the force of it hitting a solid object would be utterly devastating

>>714799414
it's really laughable bc they try to play the "this is our heckin home" card multiple times early on
but they are mostly first generation colonists who haven't even been there that long

>>714799801
>The problem was that they wrote the show to be a bit like MASH, was meant to be a war show but they quickly realized that failed
What? The war with the Dominion doesn't even start until what, season 4 or 5? I think 4 is just the Klingon stuff, maybe I'm off. But it definitely wasn't a war show from the beginning, that's just wrong.

>worf fucked jadzia and married her
>rom fucked leeta and married her
>worf fucked ezri

why did they cuck bashir so hard on the show?

>>714797801
Do not listen to him Data he plays gacha games

>>714799801
>odd couple
>spy shit mind games
>buddy cop show
none of it is anything like original but it was good.
>kira
she got all the focus and probably undeservedly but it made for a great character and fantastic stories. if kira's going off somewhere in a runabout with somebody you're in for kino.

>>714779246
There were a whole bunch of these. good times.

>>714799852
>dude, let's focus our fire at a single spot instead of spreading our shots out randomly
Did you miss the part where the fleet was doing that for the past 2 hours and Picard's inside knowledge had them target the cube's weakpoint that their sensors couldn't pick up, where even Data says coordinates Picard wanted the fleet to fire on was not a vital system?

>>714799852
The point is the Cube's layout is completely alien and illogical compared to any ship Starfleet has fought in its entire existence. Picard points out a structural flaw that looks like empty space to a casual scan, when everyone else is trying to target weapons and power conduits.

>>714799941
Not only that but in the TNG episode they establish that a lot of them are Native American so they can make the audience feel worse about them being displaced even though they're in a completely ridiculous situation of their own making.

>>714800092
Helps if I remember the picture... must be getting old.

>>714799985
Please watch the show, thanks

>>714800058
It was shit due to it trying to hit three fucking targets
>random shitty odd couple moments
>serious scifi show
>it's wartime buddy. life is hell for these poor fontier religious folk

And it failed on all three accounts

>>714799737
>his big strategy is to suicide his fighters against Cardassian ships

fucking zapp brannigan tier plan

>>714800183
i never played the EGA or GUI ones, i had it in basic on school computers though.
>>714800210
it wasn't just "three targets" they had different tones for every A/B/C plot depending on the characters involved. theres so me lighthearted B plot so the depressing A plot doesnt drive everyone off and so on. The lighthearted shit in DS9 is dumb but not bad.

>federation develops a rifle that can scan through solid objects at long distance, fire the bullet, and then transport it right in front of the target killing them with no counter
>they abandon it

fucking dumb

>>714796834
Just replicate more power

>>714800367
Then you missed the entire point of what the show was about if you think they did a/b/c plots

>>714800378
>Set up transporter dampener
>Can't be used

>oh no people like Dukat, we cant' heckin have that!
>quick turn him completely insane
>also kai winn already has all the motivation in the world to do the dumb pah wraith shit herself, but strip her of all agency too just so we can shoehorn in a dumb way for Dukat to die

very very cool Ira Steven Behr

Do Gen Z or Gen alpha even know what the fuck is deep space 9 or did they had to google it for couple mins to informed just so they can pretend to be knowledgeable about their parent's favorite 90's scifi show?

>>714775104
Voyager had a decent arcade game

>>714800421
thats literally the format of the show

>>714800210
>Please watch the show, thanks
I have, like 10+ times or something.
>S1 establishes characters and setting
>S2 does more of the same, Bajorian coup storyline (The Circle)
>S3 introduces the Dominion and the Changelings, Jem'Hadar, etc
>S4 Worf joins, Klingon civil war arc
>S5 Dominion War starts
Correct me where I'm wrong, Mr. "Please watch the show."

>>714800505
Either watch the show or shut the fuck and turn off your shitty troll tag, thanks

>>714800491
Nope

>>714800254
It's literally "I sent wave after wave of my own men against them" when he orders fighter wings 3 and 4 to start their attack runs after the first two got obliterated and accomplished nothing

Remember, if you liked DS9, you will like Babylon 5 even more.

>>714800541
>accusing someone else of trolling while giving one-word answers for (You)s and refusing to clarify
Very interesting indeed. I will not reply to you again.

>>714799852
Didn't an Excelsior attempt that against a cube in Wolf 359 and ended up doing zilch?

>>714800563
I love DS9 and I love B5 but no, I still like DS9 more.

So ignoring the underage fag who used ai slop to get a summary of the show, the problem is that utimately since the show was to show out the dangers of the war and invasion as a direct statement against the actions of the UN against the Gulf War, it u;timately had zero identity and intermixing it with the few comedy plots it had and trying to keep at the core of it being a scifi show is why it's easily the worst one outside of the meme episodes
the meme episodes are good, tho

>>714800563
b5 was kino except for the 5th season since they didn't know if it would get renewed so they wrapped up the story for the most part in season 4

>crusade only made it a single season
>lost tales didn't sell well and we missed out on the movie of the resurgent centari empire curb stomping the galaxy

i'm still mad

>>714800673
If you're talking about the Melbourne, it only crashed into the cube incidentally because the saucer section was vaporized killing the command crew cause it to drift into the cube's path.
They don't actually show the collusion, but given where it was drifting, colliding with the cube was the only option.

>>714797653
Wont spoil much but Damar absolutely gets what he deserves

Come to Quark's, Quark's is fun
Come to Quark's, don't walk--RUN!

>>714800847
>centauri republic
>is a monarchy
>centauri is not in the alpha or proxima centarui systems

bravo

>>714801252
I was going to call bullshit on the free refills, then I saw the asterisk

Nog was the best character ever written for Star Trek and also the funniest name

where are the video games?

>>714801658
Shame Eisenberg died of renal failure. Granted the fact that he did as well as he did is a miracle in itself.

>>714801894
Aye its a shame, easily the most underrated actor of DS9

At least he gave one of the most memorable performances ever in the franchise and the writers loved him

>The Federation officially has "no money"
>Quark only accepts payment in latinum, even from his Starfleet customers (despite his replicators running on station power (that he doesn't even pay for))
>none of the Starfleet characters ever complain that they have no money with which to pay him
So out of who's pocket does this frivilous spending money stipend of hard currency come from?

>>714801894
>>714802069
his character sucked on VOY but he outclassed the whole show personally.

>>714802154
The Federation itself doesnt use a currency but clearly keeps some kind of treasury on hand for diplomatic matters with foreign governments

>>714802154
Starfleet officers stationed in foreign territory (DS9 is officially a Bajoran station even if Sisko is commanding it) are given a stipend in local currency for personal purchases.

>>714800563
Finishing up the first season. I really enjoyed it, despite what I heard about it before. Not watching the pilot before I got to episode 20 probably helped.

>Watch DS9 for the first time
>Be hyped about Dominion War
>Sacrifice of The Angels
>Sisko calls the Prophets to destroy the Jem Hadar fleet
>mfw

>begged my parents to take me to the star trek expirence in vegas
>we go in 2007
>had to leave before we got to visit because my dad got drunk at the blackjack table, was told to leave, but got belligerent and needed 4 security guards to subdue him. we were given an hour to pack our stuff and leave the hotel so we just drove back home
>it permanently closed the next year

not even in the top 10 of my dad disappointing me

>>714802381
S1 E19 was fucking amazing.

WHAT WILL YOU DO WITH ME NOW MAJOR? WITHHOLD MY MEDICINE? -wry and smug as fuck smirk-

>>714802249
>>714802347
>Hm, yes, could you please explain what this, ah, "Battle of Britain" is that you've billed to your currency allowance over a dozen times this week?

>>714800469
>Jonestown...
>IN SPACEEEEEE

>>714802481
>tutorial is clowning on the Republic
>final mission is the Republic claiming the Enterprise curbstomped them
poetry, they rhyme

>>714802508
Dude, Quark gets a free space to have a bar, free utilities, free rent, a home to call his own completely free, and all he has to do is give some of the Starfleet personnel some free time in a holosuite, while earning hand-over-fist by swindling everyone else on the station?

Quark was eatin' good for his entire ride.

>>714802154
i still don't understand how the economy works in the federation

like why does picard's family get to keep their vineyard in perpetuity? doesn't that mean the queen of england and all the billionaires of old got to keep all their real estate in their families forever?

if i have a vineyard and make a wine that's popular, how is it decided who gets a bottle and who doesn't? if i can decide, what happens if i want to sell all my bottles to the ferengi for gold pressed latinum or trade them for a shuttlecraft?

IF THE FEDERATION IS SO GREAT, WHERE ARE ALL THE GREAT FEDERATION GAMES?

>>714802491
forgot my pic

>>714802838
like UNESCO protected traditional product shit.

i want a star trek crpg but paramount would demand it be Kurtzman slop so maybe it's for the best that it will never ever happen

>>714802726
>Sisko blackmails him into doing something by bringing up all the utilities he's never paid for
>Quark has to accept because actually paying for any of these things would ruin him financially
Quark was on the brink of destitution the entire show long, even after he got to pay off all his debts by being an arms dealer for a month

>>714795839
He was just a grieving dad in Breaking Bad

>>714803113
but he was one of the single most informed and connected ferengi in the galaxy anyway

>Garak: If you can allow your anger to subside for a moment, you'll see that they did *not* die in vain! The Romulans will enter the war!
>Captain Sisko: There's no guarantee of that!
>Garak: Oh, but I think that there is. You see, when the Tal Shiar finishes examining the wreckage of Vreenak's shuttle, they'll find the burnt remnants of a Cardassian optolythic data rod which somehow miraculously survived the explosion. After painstaking forensic examination, they'll discover that the rod contains a recording of a high-level Dominion meeting, at which the invasion of Romulus was being planned.
>Captain Sisko: And then they'll discover that it is a *fraud*!
>Garak: Oh, I don't think they will! Because any imperfections in the forgery will appear to be a result of the explosion. So - with a seemingly legitimate rod in one hand, and a dead senator in the other, I ask you, Captain - what conclusion would you draw?

>>714802838
The Federation is highly advanced in technology, but also highly humanist. In a setting where you can replicate almost anything you want, value is placed in what real people are able to create. You don't need to specifically go to Sisko's for food, you want to because it's good food cooked by a real person you can chat with. Likewise, you can replicate wine whenever you want, but a bottle from the Picard (or Boimler) vineyard is hand-crafted through traditional methods.

It's easier to understand if you understand it's a fictional setting where Marxism actually works. Everyone has their basic needs cared for, therefore everyone is able to pursue what they want that they get personal fulfillment in. And products made through personal fulfillment are superior to products made because a guy was just drudging through a 9-5 to pay his bills, because the former is made with SOVL.

>>714803113
Fair, but also when the FCA comes rolling on by and takes literally everything of Quarks

>Here Quark, I hate these glasses. Have 'em
>Quark, I need storage space for all these stools
>Hey ferengi asshole, heard you did some good shit. Have a bottle of Kanar
>continues to get everything either replaced or replicated that the FCA stole

Destitute in the sense of he had debts and shit, but he also had side hustles. His mom aint no slouch either.

>>714803206
For all the good it did him. He was a small time operator desperately trying to make it big and fucking it up despite all the freebies he got.

>>714803413
>For all the good it did him

Well he ended up owning the largest chain of bars in the galaxy, seems to have worked out

>>714803304
I wouldn't really call the Federation Marxist since capital clearly still exists, it's just not tied to human necessities anymore. Stuff like craftsmanship, artisan products, land. That has value and you need to exert effort to obtain it. But nobody will go homeless and starve on the street for not working.
It's communism but in a form digestible to boomers and other people who hate communists.

>>714803223
i rewatched ds9 for the first time in a very long time and I completely forgot the twist in that episode was simply Garak blown them up

very based

>>714802491
Sorry to hear it

>>714803517
i'm sure he bought his moon eventually

>>714803223
>>714803575
it was pretty genius, he knew a perfect forgery could never be done, but he knew he just needed it close to perfect and he could set the stage for it all coming together

>>714803546
Capitalism isn't defined by capital existing because by definition capital will always exist, capitalism is defined by the capital being owned by a defined social class of private individuals who are called capitalists, and who are not the government or the workers.

>>714803413
quark deserved to become grand negus. he had the business savvy but also learned ethics and morals

Just make romance options with pic related

>>714803304
Bro really out here quoting the RPG verbatim without giving it credit

>>714799414
Yeah they are retards but the Federation is supposed to stand for everyone including the retards

>>714803304
I wonder how much FOMO defines the activities of your average Federation citizen.

>>714803851
But they're retards who moved out of Federation space

what was his fucking problem

reminder: the magnificent ferengi is objectively the best episode of DS9

>>714803797
lol I've never even played that RPG, pretty obvious they'd reach the same conclusion.
I disagree with credits existing for the purpose of interstellar trade because it's pretty clear that bartering still exists even among Federation citizens. I can see it used for internal reasons within the Federation bureaucracy, but it wouldn't be needed for, as an example, trade between Vulcans and Tellarites.

>>714803929
he got baited into a contest with literal monkeys

>>714802838
>i still don't understand how the economy works in the federation
essentially infinite energy and energy-to-matter replication makes all basic material needs completely satisfied

also something that's barely ever touched on is that star trek is actually a post- apocalypse setting where humanity went through a devastating nuclear war that completely changed the cultural outlook and priorities of humanity. greed and obsession with material wealth is practically unheard of. people work jobs not because they have to but because they want to. the man who spends all day forming clay, shaping it, glazing it, firing it, and making artisinal clayware doesn't need money for his goods because he does not need money to satisfy any of his needs, and the satisfaction that other people can enjoy and appreciate the fruits of his labour is payment enough

>>714803304
>Likewise, you can replicate wine whenever you want
Wasn't replicated alcohol pretty shitty? I remember multiple characters complaining about it but maybe it's because they're on a military vessel so they have different settings on the replicators

>>714803771
I want one of the Federation's myriad of cat peoples to give me a hug

>>714803923
>throw such a hissy fit they leave the Federation entirely and forsake their citizenship
>the Federation still does its best to keep them being exported en masse to Cardassian gulags because the Cardassians will never accept "oh those terrorists? yeah they quit the Federation they're not our people anymore" as an excuse

>>714804080
it was regulated by starfleet for starfleet personnel so they didnt get drunk

>>714804080
Actual replicated alcohol was fine, the issue is that by default Starfleet replicators made non-alcoholic beverages so you wouldn't have a bunch of officers drunk on duty or in emergency situations.

>>714804039
still, how do they decide who gets the nice beach house in hawaii and who gets a tiny apartment in a megatower in new somalia?

>>714804080
Any military vessel was limited solely to the production of synthohol, an artificial compound meant to replicate the effects of alcohol but able to be easily willed away when needed. Presumably the effects are nowhere as strong as the real thing and like other food products from the replicator, usually not as good as the real thing

For me, it's torres

>>714804039
>also something that's barely ever touched on is that star trek is actually a post- apocalypse setting where humanity went through a devastating nuclear war that completely changed the cultural outlook and priorities of humanity
To be honest, I always looked at WWIII as more of a way for the writers to hand-wave why all the humans in the Federation are moralfags that have overcome vice. "Because the bad ones got blown up*."

*Except for the ones that became Section 31.

>>714803923
federation space moved out of them, anon. treaties redrew borders.

I assume asking on /v/ will get me a better answer then anywhere else. Ok so the federation doesnt use money right? So how do you get things that cant be replicated? I think of 3 things here mainly. First are historical items, like say I want an old vase from some retarded ancient empire how would I get one? Next is land, I know theres now practically infinite due to space but like Picard got his vinyard how does that work? Finally things that cant be replicated. Im aware some things cant be replicated so how do you get them? And I know im gonna get dumb answers but im asking this seriously. My brother is a retarded trekie and he always dodges this question. I actually collect antiques so im curious how once would collect them in the federation. Im also not trying to shit on star trek this is legit curiosity.

>>714803929
Vulcan 'tist

>>714804080
Synthehol is "all the TASTE of alcohol with none of the DRUNK of alcohol (because it has NO ALCOHOL in it)"

>>714804258
>>714804039

*SNIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFF*

>>714803929
Neverending Sisko humiliation ritual

>>714797394
>below decks and strange new worlds
>the best
>of nu-trek
That's such an insanely low standard. You might as well compliment a pile of shit on not being liquid diarrhea.

>>714804080
the shit they were complaining about was synthehol

>>714804232
Easy, you live where you work, and your living accommodations are based on your job.
Keep in mind the 24th century is where standard officers quarters on a starship are like living in a luxury hotel. The Federation has enough colony worlds that they're not hurting for space, and nobody is living in a shoebox unless they legitimately want to.

>>714804297
case by case basis, probably trade resources/support for local native museum funding because they dont appropriate shit.

ATTENTION BAJORAN JANITORS
*ahem*
vidya butts

Sex with cardassian women

>>714804232
First come first served but there's a functionally limitless amount of colony planets so you can find your own beach somewhere nice out there even if you can't have a specific beach in Hawaii

>do you wish to copulate? take off your clothes
>u..uh no t..thanks

is this the biggest fumble in federation history?

>>714804297
>First are historical items, like say I want an old vase from some retarded ancient empire how would I get one
As far as the shows cover, they're either in museums already or if you find it yourself, you can keep it. If someone else has it they could give it to you if they wanted.

>Land
As far as we can tell you get to keep whatever land you owned and lived in across the generations of your family. Otherwise you can get set up in housing on Earth or be totally provided for to move to another colony or fully developed planet throughout the federation

>Im aware some things cant be replicated so how do you get them?
If it can't be replicated it can be produced or harvested, the Federation has both production facilities as well as mining facilities across many asteroids and planets

>>714804521
>Tell her to fuck off.
>This just makes her wetter.
While I appreciate O' Briens loyalty to Keiko, he was also a massive faggot.

>>714804373
At the VERY least Below Decks has some pretty good zingers and one-liners.

Yeah, it isn't saying much, but I ain't watching it for Trek at this point. I'm watching it to laugh and for it to make a mockery of Trek which it does decently well at.

>>714804604
Seriously, what was with the VOY writing team? It seems like they hated the entire cast with a passion

>>714804648
>the Federation has both production facilities as well as mining facilities across many asteroids and planets
Oh yeah I just remembered the enslaved holo doctors

>>714803851
Which is the beautiful thing about the Federation: they try to stand up for everyone that isn't intentionally being a cunt, even if they are stupid.
Sometimes, beyond the degree most would consider reasonable.

Does replicator food taste exactly 1:1 like regular food? Let's say I order a steak from a fancy restaurant, and then the next day I tell the replicator I want a steak just like the ones they make at the restaurant, will it still taste the same?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biO7-6XFsmo
Just remember howling with laughter when I saw this scene. Never really liked Worf, but did in this moment

>>714804604
>tfw watching this episode right now.
>>714804750
It was the B-team. And apparently everyone hated the show.

>>714804373
strange new worlds, while flawed, is the closest to proper trek we've had since DS9

>>714804750
they did, and a lot of the cast members also hated each other
it was a giant mess

>live on Earth
>wall to wall fusion reactors so energy is infinite and you can replicate what you want and holosuite all day
>but space is technically limited and there are places they'll never let you live for any number of reasons
>live on a colony
>limitations in energy production means limitations in replication and holosuite time*
>but significantly more likely to be able to live wherever you want to set up a house*
>*you might actually have to work for a living tho

>>714804830
yeah but its still not trek

>>714804806
Learning that Jeff Combs was both Weyoun and Brunt was a surprise. This guy's everywhere.

>>714804604
harry did the right thing because while 7 understand the physical mechanics of sex, she did not understand the psychological, emotional, and cultural impacts. if harry had sex with her at that moment, it would literally be rape

>>714795396
jamake highwater.
guy larped as native in Hollywood for years. guess his actual ethnicity

>>714804648
Ok so for artifacts I go find them myself not sure how I get permission to go dig up random burial sites in greece or get one as a favor from whoever has what I want. For land I basically ask for it and the government decides if I get it? Guess being in the military or something gets you preferred for that. For the final part so like I asume as an individual your on like a waiting list to get one? I ask for a space ship and wait or something? I fell like at least for the first part money would just be better honestly.

>>714804794
It does taste 1:1 with regular food, but characters a number of times bring up that they feel like it lacks 'something' since its basically soulless recipes

You could program in your own of course

>>714804297
There's a few episodes where Picard collects historical artifacts, it mostly comes down to being allowed to do it yourself, or being friends with someone who is. Historical preservation like that is not an entitlement and most items do belong in museums. For the most part it would amount to connections or just bartering if you see something you like. I imagine while you might not be able to acquire the authentic item, you could replicate a facsimile for decoration. Museums sell replicas of their art all the time, it's just understood that you're buying a replica for decoration and not the real piece.

>>714804794
It can but someone has to program the specific recipe. So it will taste like a steak but not necessarily that restaurants by default.

>>714804958
they meet at one point and its fun

>>714804908
Theres plenty of options in between, not every place outside of Earth is some frontier colony where every day youre breaking your back to get it set up

>>714804794
Replicator food tastes exactly like the food you scanned and programmed into the replicator, every single time.

If you got your tricorder out and scanned a sub-par steak then put that into your replicator's memory as "steak" then that's what you'll get whenever you ask for steak. People with better steaks scanned and programmed will comment that your steaks taste like shit.

>>714804794
i think it depends. people on DS9 pay to eat real food at quarks, the klingon restaurant, etc instead of using the free replimat because it's higher quality. however, quark's also sells replicated food so i assume it has to be higher quality otherwise no one would really pay for it

>>714805001
>>714804794
The problem is that replicators can't variate. You are eating a copy of the exact same meal every time.

>>714804921
It's occasionally Trek. The court room episode was Trek.

>>714804604
desu, I would have said the same. I think most of this board would too (irl)

>>714805175
>>714805160
>>714805147
>>714804794
one thing they repeat often in ds9 is how shitty the default cardassian replicators are. so the high end starfleet shit probably does very very well 1:1 but the hardware matters and maybe civilian places have different levels of quality.

>>714776376
i miss old /trek/ macros

>>714804794
some people say it just strictly worse, but those are like the equivalent of audiophiles who think a song sounds worse if it's not played out of their 60,000 dollar setup with ridiculous floor elevated cable insulators (that plug directly into normal "un-insulated" house wiring/power mains).

>>714776624
>Bitches leave

>>714804980
At this point in the world its pretty unlikely you'd find anything that wasnt already excavated or destroyed from the Eugenics Wars. The government will find you housing wherever you want to go, but how much space you actually get and where exactly you get to live are up in the air and a needs discretion. Although if you live in say, some apartment complex in Uganda and want to go visit New York, theres public access teleportation to get there instantly, or quickly if you prefer a shuttle

>space ship
Any ships are either being used for Starfleet or various logistics in the Federation. If you wanted your own ship itd have to be deemed necessary by the Federation. You can get free travel to any planet or space station you want however.

>>714805512
>Behold, the audiosnake

>>714804794
it makes real food but the issue that characters whine about (sisko most notably) is that it's exactly the same every time
even at a restaurant you can't go and get the exact same steak twice

>>714776773
>why do people hunt animals when grocery stores are packed with food?

>>714799667
>fighters might be a thing
They have legit 1 man fighters in the Dominion war on DS9.

>Yes sir, we met in battle. I was on the Saratoga at Wolf 359.
how do you respond without sounding mad?

>>714805619
Spaceship regulation is probably less due to scarcity and more from the fact that improper use of a warp-capable vessel can easily lead to massive ecological devastation.
You need to prove to the Federation you're responsible. Or at least as responsible as a Starfleet admiral.

>>714778342
Cardassian courts don't allow new evidence to be shared in the middle of proceedings.

>>714805617
Annorax says this every time he used his temporal weapon.

>>714805750
>>714805619
they hand shuttles out like candy, they're basically harmless.

>>714805501
Some of the best ones are ancient like pic related

>>714805750
You wouldnt need to prove that much, not all ships are gigantic Constitution class ships, your own shuttle wouldnt require THAT much responsibility. Still, a space ship is a space ship so they're not going to hand that out to anyone willy nilly

>>714799786
Star fleet loves throwing bodies away. Trained elite starship crews. Thrown away a dozen ships at a time. Hundreds of thousands of crew members dead in one battle.
>tfw you're 2 months from retirement and a Borg cube has been spotted heading towards federation space

>>714805619
>If you wanted your own ship itd have to be deemed necessary by the Federation
Sisko's girlfriend has her own freighter and crew, in TNG there's a guy with his own little hauler that almost kills Picard and Wesley when they crash. The little people get to have their own ships but it's mentioned that anything above Warp 5 capable is for the big boys.

>>714805907
What was the alternative exactly? Let the Borg wipe everyone out?

>>714805749
seriously, how could picard show himself at any starfleet function? pretty much everyone in starfleet would have known someone killed at wolf359

>>714805749
>"So we didn't actually meet?"

>>714798405
DS9 was into season 3 when All Good Things aired

>>714799985
They literally stole the Babylon 5 script and just did that with DS9. It was always about the Dominion war. From the beginning.

what's the weapon policy in the federation? can anyone own a phaser? what about photon torpedoes?

>>714805894
i'm pretty sure that's from an anime

>>714806073
you can just replicate the nonlethal ones.

>>714800563
>ah, meester garibaldi
>my good and dear friend
soul

>>714805971
>in TNG there's a guy with his own little hauler that almost kills Picard
That guy wasn't with the Federation, he was from an independent planet

>Sisko's gf
She clearly had proven that she would be responsible with a ship and its being used for the Federation

>>714803304
>>714803546
Interesting enough this his how The Orville explained how society works since they were post scarcity too so people's value was based on what work they did.

>>714800563
Not true. Couldn't finish B5 but watched DS9 twice.

>>714795534
Yes she was, especially with her pilot episode hair

>>714805749
Something like this

>>714806073
Its not really explored but its probably legal to own phasers that are only able to KO someone, and any with higher lethality are strictly limited to Starfleet personnel

>>714800007
>why did they cuck bashir so hard on the show?
He's that shows nerd archetype. He's not just a smart nerd medical doctor but a genetically modified super nerd.

>>714806114
It's an Okudagram from TNG though they did fill those with anime references, lots of Dirty Pair shit.

>>714797007
TOS was quite literally and specifically designed to be as woke as they could get away with.

>>714795839
I remember watching an interview De Lancie did for his character part in Quantum Conundrum. He said at one point something to the effect of "voicing this character was easy, because he's the same character I've been playing for years"

>>714805894
>>714806423
I'm with anon. Isn't that from Evangelion?

>>714794897
ENT is comfy and has my favorite ST theme.

>>714795839
ive never watched the horse show, but recently heard he voiced the villain there. Was that him doing Q too?

>>714805907
Hanlon's razor my friend, it is expected that the peaceniks who still want to pretend there is a difference between Starfleet officers and civilians even though they insist Starfleet is not a military 'and' station civilians aboard their vessels that may come into combat would not have the most solid grasp on tactical acumen. Or even what they're supposed to be doing in a shooting war.

>>714806681
pretty much since he was le wacky random sorta bad guy but who is ultimately good

>Starfleet
>here is your phaser, it has settings from light stun to full disintegration, you can use it to start fires or heat rocks for warmth, you can boil water, you can carve shelter out of stone, weld metal or cut apart wreckage, the power pack also serves as a high yield explosive or as a replacement for other devices in an emergency
>literally everyone else
>this is your gun, it stuns or it kills, good luck

>episode where they doll up Kira in Cardassian makeup and try to gaslight her into thinking she was secretly Cardassian all along
>at no point does she pick at the makeup like a rational person
It would have been better if they said they grafted it on and gave the fake skin nerve endings so it hurts like real skin (like the attack in Guyver where the one monster's goop becomes a part of your skin tissue when it makes contact) but iirc there's no explanation so she just looks like a complete idiot

>>714795680
Gallitep... Whatever happened there...

>>714795839
Its the same kind of a curse as Mark Hamill
Have great acting chops, have great range - be forced to play the same fucking role over and over and over again.

Though at least Q-like performances are not overrated dogshit

>>714806249
B5 is my favorite sci-fi of all time but I also like DS9 and most other Treks. B5 you have to watch straight thru. DS9 episodes stand on their own better.

What's a good place to watch DS9?

>>714807074
in your living room

>>714806423
>>714806574
nope you guys are right, evangelion, my bad

>>714807074
Seasons 1-5.

>>714795846
It really says something about society.

>>714806847
Wait what the fuck
Wasnt that like a big old dragon? Who the FUCK thought giving him the voice of Q of all things would fit?
This fucking cartoon somehow keeps finding ways to make me angry decades after its death.

>>714807041
>way back when i had a membership to PC Gamer magazine
>they had an ad for a Babylon 5 game where you play as an Earthforce starfighter pilot
>game was cancelled
>we never got a proper B5 game

;_;

>>714807074
Prolly best to torrent it. Most sites have the shitty rips

>>714807024
>It would have been better if they said they grafted it on
That's literally every single time anyone appears as an alien, anon. They have the technology to casually perform cosmetic surgery on people. Bashir can do it to Sisko, O'Brien and Human Odo in under a day and then just as easily take it all off when they get back.

>>714796103
It's because DS9 was too political.

>>714807074
m4uhd

>>714807264
>horse cock futa girls are real in federation

based

>>714807219
>Who the FUCK thought giving him the voice of Q of all things would fit?
he's a goofy chaos entity. The character is basically Q with any truly malicious aspects filed down.

>>714807219
>a big old dragon
It's a weird chimerical creature called Discord, when he first appears he's an evil trickster god that was sealed away for trying to turn reality into a chaotic nightmare world. He was literally just Q If Q Was Totally Evil.

>show starts out with some random woke OC named Sisko
>the actual main characters, Odo and Quark, aren't given proper focus until a few episodes in
MGS2-esque.

>>714807074
get the upscaled torrents, they look good

Just like how your favorite 90's game isn't on modern platforms, DS9 and VOY are stuck in 480p because Paramount can't afford to remaster them. They spent the money on a bunch of streaming shows nobody watched.

>>714807547
I'm not very far in but I fucking love Odo

>>714795396
>He doesn't know
Jeri Ryan indirectly lead to Obama becoming president. Jeri Ryan's (ex) husband was running against Obama for the senate in Illinois. The Democrats acquired and leaked the sealed divorce records in which it was revealed that she divorced him because he was bringing her to sex clubs and letting other men fuck her while he watched. Obama was losing before this, and the revelation lead to his opponent dropping out, letting him win basically unopposed and jumpstarting his political career.

So no, Jeri is not pure. She was a hotwife that got pimped out at sex clubs by her cuck husband. At most you can say she didn't like it, hence the divorce but it still happened, she still did it.

You can look this up, it's all 100% true.

>>714807630
Odo is top tier.

>>714807382
It IS a utopia, anon. Just go for a vacation on Risa and get your holes stuffed like Riker

>>714797385
kek
>>714797840
>there is no such thing as a perfect cloak in star trek
Defiance with its main power turned off

>>714807609
They've gone on record saying it's impossible to remaster DS9. I don't remember the reason. Pretty sure they offered a "demaster" that was VHS quality though.

>>714807547
Sisko grows on you, even if Avery Brooks' weird ass acting doesn't
A reminder that it's not gay to get choked up during The Visitor

>>714807802
the live action is shot on film but the CGI was baleeted or something so they only have VHS-tier releases to master from

At this very moment star trek is more dead than it has ever been.
Yet the fanbase is as alive as ever. Unlike Tuvix.

>>714807264
Ok fine but I wanted it exposited

DOUBLE DUMBASS ON YOU

>>714807893
fucking kek

>>714807074
The Site
>>714807041
God I miss episodic media

>>714807893
KEK

>>714807885
TNG ALWAYS WINS, BAY-BEE

>>714807994
WHERRRR ARE DA NUCLEAR WESSELS?

>>714808104
DS9 was also much less slutty without G-Rod drunkenly at the helm

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2653940/Star_Trek_Resurgence/
Randomly saw this yesterday and bought it for 6 bucks. Apparently it's telltale like adventure game, so I don't have the highest expectations, but I'm willing to give it a shot. Never heard anyone bring it up before either, despite browsing these threads.
Almost like people don't actually play video games.

>>714807854
I actually like Sisko a lot, I just like Quark and Odo more. I didn't know people had a problem with his acting until I looked online, I liked him just fine.

>>714808252
>Apparently it's telltale like adventure game
former tell tale employees made it

>>714807854
>To my father, who's coming home
It didn't get me until that scene. Jesus christ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCqWTmNONI0

RIP Tony Todd

>>714807893
The fact that Janeway's actress clowns on Tuvix fags is hilarious.

>>714807039
You'd think the fact most normies know Hamill as Luke Skywalker would give credence to him having a dynamic acting range.

>>714808547
victim of his own success, also he's kind of a shitty actor somehow.

>>714807720
tfw you will never attend a sex club where young jeri ryan is being pimped out to all and sundry by her coked up senator husband.

>>714807039
That's what type casting is and why actors try to avoid it at all costs.
Speaking of Joker.
Look up Adam West and the hell he went through because he was type cast as Batman and what he had to do to break out of it.

>DS9 episode starts
>it's funny and whimsical for a few minutes before something utterly horrendous happens or is foreshadowed to happen
Why are they like this

>>714779810
The game is really cool, just wish it did well enough they could do a directors cut to fill out the obvious holes or another game.
I bought it on epic and on steam but yeah the studio still pretty much instantly died after the steam release.

>>714808438
He deserved it.

>>714808252
It's the most poorly optimised game I have EVER seen. Trying to play it on "max" settings (the only settings it released with) will make your GPU reach 100% usage for no goddamn reason. Playing it on the lowest settings is still a huge GPU hog and now it looks even worse.

There's also no cutscene or conversation skips in a game all about cutscenes and conversations. If you ever reload you will be sitting through it all, all over again.

I tried to play it, I really did. But it does not want to be played.

>>714774984 (OP)
>CARDASSIAN
You mean
>smacks lips
Kardashian?

>>714808247
The biggest shock going into TNG blind was thinking it was some kids show. The TV-PG rating was A LOT more generous in the 1980's.

>>714808662
>Episode opens
>O'Brien is smiling and enjoying time with his family.
Oh... oh no...

>>714799520
Kek, good point.

>>714776431
Fuck off, Ira. That idea was dogshit.

>>714808662
>Episode starts
>Turns out Kira is exposed for being a terrorist
>Cue DS9 intro

>>714808247
I still have mixed feelings about that. Trek's sluttiness almost goes hand in hand with the utopia, which I suppose does fit that DS9's less slutty since it's largely outside the federation

>>714808252
ANON YOU FUCKIN SO-AND-SO I MENTIONED IT FIVE AND A HALF HOURS AGO >>714779810

It's very Telltale in that there's 0 puzzles and you do dumbass QTEs for the "Gameplay" and I still don't know how much different choices will change things, but the writing and feeling is very Trek and I've been enjoying it. You play both the second in command and a random lower decks engineer and one of my favorite parts of the writing thus far is how the two intertwine. Like without getting into spoilers decisions the second in command makes can fuck up the engineer and the engineer fucking around doing maintenance notices shit which changes the tone of how the higher ups are dealing with things. Does a good job of feeling like the ship as a whole is working together even when they're doing different shit, been pleasant playing a few chunks a night

>>714808342
Depending on the employee, that could be a very good thing or a very bad thing, but the steam reviews seem pretty favorable to it, which doesn't necessarily have to mean much. At least I wont regret it with the price being so low.
>>714808719
Welp, thanks for the heads up. Wonder what engine it runs in.
>>714808903
The one time I skip through the thread, so I can bring it up...

>>714807720
>She was a hotwife that got pimped out at sex clubs
she never had sex there. her husband took her to a sex club once, she freaked, and was one of the many reasons why she divorced his ass

>>714808768
It was a kids show though, I even remember the Reading Rainbow man having a behind-the-scenes episode about it and that is literally how I discovered Star Trek.

>>714796103
>beginning of the moral grandstanding
>in fucking Star Trek
I’m sorry man but this show was signaling Rodenberry’s virtues from day one.

Ds9 Spin-off in which Dominion won, Damar never stopped drinking, and was given a successful holoshow in which he tastes different beverages.

>>714809076
Rodenberry at least knew how to signal his virtues with charisma.
Usually.
Early TNG notwithstanding.

>>714809012
It's a kids show with gore and rape gangs because soccer moms must not have been a thing yet.

>>714807630
Ignore what happens to him in the last season and yes he is the best.

>>714808861
Sending all my enemies back in time to get hate-crimed from now on

>defiant class ships are the only ones with pulse phasers

are pulse phasers better than beam phasers? beam phasers seem faster and never miss

>DS9 is less slutty
bro your dabo girls??

>>714809175
I remember they test-screened this scene with actual kids and the kids said they wanted a toy that is just this guy exploding into bugs.

>>714809243
Artificial sluttiness, not pvre natural sluttiness that comes from living in the Federation

>>714807039
Mark Hamill has a lot of range in his VA work.

>>714808252
It is honestly the best star trek story since DS9. i love the game and wish i could erase my memory and replay it

>>714808768
>>714808903
in DS9 gene's wife is extra slutty but they were freaky swinger types. that's mostly offscreen though.

>>714809291
Based kids.

>>714809175
>rape gangs

>>714808768
You have to remember, a lot of TV programming was dictated by its time-slot, so shows like TNG were always shown after 9pm / 10pm anyway. The thought process being that even if the show swung a little higher than it's rating that it wouldn't matter.

Time-slots stopped being relevant starting in the early 2000's though.

>>714808760
You mean SPOON HEADS

We wouldn't have rape gangs under dominion rule...

>>714809214
The Defiant is the only pure warship the Federation ever built, phaser cannons are built entirely to shoot things and blow them up. Phaser arrays are like their handheld phasers in that you can use them to do things other than blow shit up.

>>714774984 (OP)
Don't you mean on behalf of the Dominion government, Dukat?
>>714775104
I can vouch for Star Trek Voyager Elite Force and Star Trek Bridge Commander
>>714780916
Is the second game good?

>>714809510
i think TNG was syndicated so the time slots were different in every area. i guess that left any content rating shit up to the local types instead of national.

>>714802154
>despite his replicators running on station power (that he doesn't even pay for)
Based as fuck

>>714809457
>Tasha will never have a friendship with Broccoli over their shared love of completely fucked up holodeck porn
RODDENBERRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>714809561
>only pure warship
except that copy of the defiant that was run by child soldiers
>>714809642
thats all berman, he's a cunt

>>714809539
>O'Brien to HR department!
>O'Brien to HR department!

>>714809510
True. I caught a couple of episodes on basic cable in an after school timeslot so that colored my perception of it. It figures the ones I saw were either the really crappy ones or the plot heavy ones so it never caught my interest until I caught it on Netflix as an adult.

>>714776624
why didnt eddington use the krull glaive to behead sisko???

>>714809781
unfortunately without hair it lost its power

>>714776773
the resource is bajoran pussy. cant replicatw that stank

>>714809594
It's wild that her irl name is more of a strange sci-fi name then her character's name

>>714809781
No power of trve love to shoot fire from his palm

>>714809681
As a class, he means. They were pumping out dozens of Defiants for the Dominion War, and then those dedicated fighter planes which were just kind of bad.

>>714809681
Defiant was the class of the vessel as well as the name of the first one produced, the Defiant Class was the only pure warship

Incidentally it was designed by Sisko when he still worked at Utopia Planitia

>>714809594
>Is the second game good?
Not that anon but it's pretty good. If you liked the first one you'll probably enjoy it.

>>714804273
Man, if only space was fucking huge and they could go live somewhere safe. The Maquis were a stupid fucking concept introduced in the now neverending attempt to dirty up the Federation after Roddenberry's death. You lost your home, tough shit. It's was either you lose your colony or the war continues. The people we were supposed to empathize with were basically saying the Federation should have betrayed all it stood for and unleashed the dogs of war just so they could keep their relatively new homes. Fuck em.

i know people don't like nu-trek but i appreciate season 1 of picard introducing planetary shields. in a universe where a single ship can depopulate a planet within minutes, it was always weird that major planets didn't have shields, orbital defense platforms, or at least permanently stationed ships to defend the planet

>>714791895
its bad in premise but has great characters and single out stories. in the end you'll even love neelix. i shed a genuine tear when tuvok started busting a move for his goodbye. shit was cash money man

>>714810212
but the federation guarantees property rights and shit so they literally drew up an illegal treaty either way.

>>714791895
It never lives up to it's premise and ends up just being a less well written and interesting version of TNG.

>>714810263
Earth does have an orbital defense network according to DS9.

>>714809175
>>714809291
It wasn't kids, it was just the kid of the guy who did the special effects of it.
Kid was probably a sociopath since that scene was traumatizing

>>714795510
ent is a live action anime

>>714810007
eddington was a pah wraith?????

>>714808637
>the cast Brad Dourif in a non-crazy/violent role challenge (impossible)

i just finished the 90s trilogy series for the first time this year and now i feel so empty and sad. i had a blast with this show but a lot of people told me that star trek enterprise is not the same and after that they fucked star trek beyond repair

>>714810470
He was wild in Exorcist III

>>714795510
The correct opinion, except ENT was already kino.
VOY was a complete waste of potential, the whole show should have been a struggle for survival like that part in ENT where they are alone in that area of space to reach the Xindi and have to become pseudo space pirates.

>>714810470
It can't be helped, he's just too good

>>714810470
He was kino was the Doc in Deadwood

>>714810494
i dont even think i have the fried chicken version of this anymore

>>714810494
ENT is very enjoyable at time much like voyager. Give it a shot if only for Dr phlox

>betazeds are literal mind readers
>the flagship of the federation only gets a half betazed
>no other ship bothers to have at least one betazed crewmember for diplomatic and investigative purposes

lame

>>714810263
IIRC those were introduced back all the way during The Voyage Home. Still, even if Picard S1 and 2 sucked major dick, I liked S3's ending to TNG more than Nemesis.
Even if they made the totally wrong ship the Enterprise-G.

>>714810470
Kinographic actor

>>714810494
Just keep watching Trek shows, anon. No reason not to at at least give it all a try since I assume you're pirating or streaming. Even new Trek doesn't retroactively ruin old Trek, unlike Doctor Who

>>714810617
VOY wasnt apocalypse now it was heart of darkness (comedy)
>>714810494
ENT is a completely different show every single season. things you can say about s1 are nowhere in s2 and so on... except fanservice, boomerisms, and the goat jeff combs.

>>714807720
As someone who actually lived in Illinois during this, this election tourists post is full of shit.
First, the divorce records weren't leaked, the Chicago Tribune and WLS sued to make them public as part of a public's right to know, which a judge agreed with it.
Second Obama was winning in every poll, the closest Ryan got was 8 points, and that was with a polling company that is extremely right wing.
Third, Obama was already on the map nationally because of his speech at the Democratic National Convention in 2004 and after Ryan dropped out, and Republicans replaced him with an ultra right wing carpetbagger ensuring Obama would win (Which he did 70-30), allowing Obama to stop campaigning in Illinois and campaign for other candidates around the country raising his own profile further.
Jeri Ryan helped Obama raise his national profile more easily, but trying to frame it like he'd have lost his senate race is pure Republican cope.

>>714808986
He tried to take her to 3 sex clubs, first one she refused to go too. Second was some eyes wide shut tier material where he wanted to have sex with her in front of others and she refused. The third club had people having sex in public and she just broke down crying to which he started to berate her by saying it was not a turn on watching her cry.

>>714810804
I feel nothing but an endless font of pity for what happened to Whovians.

>>714810494
ent sort of pinballs between boring and decent for its main 3 seasons. season 4 is nearing actual Trek territory, though.

>>714810212
>people raised in a perfect utopia completely divorced from the realities of hardship and strife that still define the lives of so many others refuse to let go of "our land" because they think the radical act of moving away from paradise entitles them to whatever they want
Probably the most realistic thing they ever put in the show. The Maquis grew up completely out of touch and can't see beyond their own noses because the political landscape of the Alpha Quadrant was never a serious concern to them.

>>714810718
Sacks of bugs run starfleet so they keep the mind readers away so they aren't discovered

>>714804167
You can't choose your citizens, just like how you can't choose your family. That's something our current administration could learn.

>>714810718
Betazoids are entire race of HR cunts that should have never been allowed into the Federation. Imagine having a coworker who can read your emotions and extrapolate your thoughts, who reports directly to the Captain.

>guest starring Jeffrey Combs
the sign you're about to watch a great episode

play Star Trek Online ya friggin nerds

>>714810930
no, fuck you that game sucks.

>>714810959
no, FUCK YOU

>>714810930
More like Star Trek On-Grind

>>714810925
>WELL HELLO~!

>>714811007
i wanted it to be good and the TOS parts at least were but thats long long gone.

>>714811030
theres no other game that immerses you into the star trek universe like STO does

>>714810930
Played for a while at launch then did another play through of the Fed story 6 or 7 years ago. Did they ever fix ground combat?

>>714804697
O'Brien was the best and Bashir was by far the worst character on the show

>>714810930
I tried this game a while ago, started as Romulan and the story hook of your future self coming back to tell you about all the cool shit you're gonna do in the future was interesting but I just couldn't get on with the ship combat. Which is most of the game as I understand it.

>>714811074
This may be the single funniest interaction in trek history.

>>714811129
>Did they ever fix ground combat?
last time I played a few months back the ground combat was still the same as it ever was

>>714810930
>play the game for the first time in years
>not even a dozen new missions
>go to summer event
>literally the exact same minigames as when I left
Nah

>>714803223
and all it cost was one romulan senator, one criminal and the self respect of one starfleet officer

>>714811108
Which is a shame, but I do not have a 10th of my lifetime to waste anymore for big fleet actions. I got my money's worth playing as a temporally-displaced 23rd century Captain (rear admiral) captaining a 22nd century ball-on-a-stick in the 24th century, and I will not sully that memory by trying to do it over again.

>>714811129
i remember the borg zone pretty fun but they're from the company who dev'd it before i think? back when there was a crafting shit.

>>714810494
This scene is good only because Pulaski tries to do her fucking job of saving the guy instead of just taking a tricorder reading and declaring him dead like Crusher would.

>>714803942
Correct, and I, Mudd is the best TOS episode

>>714805871
This, like guns and cars in schoolshootmerica.

>>714811358
All about dem Mirandas desu.

>>714811527
no romulan no fucks given

>>714808986
>>714810862
No, NO stop ruining my fantasy about Jeri Ryan sex club gangbangs, Jeri Ryan bukakke and Jeri Ryan forced prostitution

Sci-Fi t/v/ show recommendation list:

>Star Trek TOS + films
>Star Trek TNG + films
>Star Trek DS9
>Star Trek VOY
>Star Trek ENT

>Stargate (1994)
>Stargate SG-1 + films
>Stargate Atlantis

>Battlestar Galactica (2004)

>Babylon 5 + films

>Farscape + The Peacekeeper Wars

If you haven't watched all of these, you have some homework to do.

>>714805971
>there's a guy with his own little hauler that almost kills Wesley
So close yet so far

>>714811286
>what about the four Senator's guards, Garak?
>lmao who cares about the grunts? disposable people, Captain

>i thought all the actors that played klingons were black
>recently found out that martak's and gowron's actors were white

weird

>>714805990
Why does humanity deserve to live instead of the Borg?

>>714811754
Don't worry, I thought the same

>>714811754
>Gowron
love that nigga so much

You have ten seconds to prove you're an actual Trek fan and say your favourite TAS episode that isn't Yesteryear or Slaver Weapon.

>>714806216
>Orville is Star Trek ripoff
We know, that's why it's based.

>>714811754
Usually you could tell tho (or I'm racist)

>>714811674
>no stargate universe

it finally started to hit its stride and they cancelled it

>>714811792
Because humanity and the Federation allow self-determination. Ironically, Star Fleet Battles did this plot before TNG when the Interstellar Concordium touched down into the Alpha Quadrant and told everyone to accept the gay luxury space communism or else.

>>714811914
martak and gowron acted and sounded 10x more black than worf

>>714805512
>No magic crystals
Unlistenable

>>714806936
They look like bugs

>>714811896
The Infinite Vulcan.

>>714811896
Uhh, the one with the sexy cat lady?
Also there's a better test.
Treker or Trekie